Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 5-28-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Steve

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Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, my condition, my condition.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
I woke up the small and with the sundown shining in,
found my mind in a brown paper.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Peg within trip don a cloud and fail. I ate
my I told my man on a.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Jagged sky, I just dropped in to see condition my
condition was in.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, yeah, my condition condition. Welcome everybody to doctor Crippen's
Natural Health Hours. It is May twenty eighth, while this

(02:36):
month is flew by. We had lots of rain here today.
The weather was pretty nice, nice and cool and dark outside. Anyway,
we are all here live on Rumble. We've got Susie, Bill,
myself and our producer in the background, Steve, and we
hope we have a great show for you. I know

(02:57):
we do, and they just can't wait to hear my
jokes and music. So anyway, Susie, I know somebody didn't laugh.
Susie and Bill. If you guys like to say hello,
go ahead, Susie.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Hi, everyone, thanks for joining us this evening.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Did you guys notice the music and the words we're
working together this time?

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, you not believe this, and I don't want to
say Steve can be a little difficult. We trouble shouted
together and I would well, we found out there was
some settings in what is our software? We're using zoom

(03:46):
and you had to set that up, and one of
them at the top of the screen kept saying something
about original sound for musicians off. So we clicked it
on and I would play a song, and this is
what's does to me. I said, Steve, how'd that sound horrible?
But I can hear it real good. So he seemed

(04:10):
to think that maybe I didn't have good songs. I'm
not really sure, but every time I would play a song,
he'd say, it sounds horrible, but I can hear it good.
So we fixed it. We did a little troubleshooting a
couple of days in a row, and the second day
we stumbled into it and got it go. And so

(04:33):
that's another thing. Ladies and gentlemen, if you need help
with any of that kind of stuff, go to our
web page, as Susie made it, says doccroupa dot com
and scroll down and you will see Susie's business, and
you will see Steve's business. And he's standing next to
a Fredericksburg street sign out on the road. So and

(04:58):
the number of information, all that stuff for him and
Suzzy is there. You guys can go look all that
up if you like. All Right, something tonight that I
decided maybe we need to shift gears a little bit.
We're going to talk about acid reflux or some people
call it acid indigestion, or there's a lot of different

(05:21):
names for it. And the TV commercials from the pharmaceuticals
will convince you that you need a medication over the
counter or from the pharmacy. It just depends on you
know what you do. But one of the things we've
always said on here is politics, kind of stay out

(05:42):
of it. Well, I got to thinking that that's working
because the more we ignore some of those idiots, the
more they think it's okay. So I've decided that for
now on, if anybody has anything they want to talk about,
what's going on in life, politics, whatever, it's okay. If

(06:07):
it's more interesting, we'll stick with it and we'll make
the whole show about it. Depends on how it takes off.
But if somebody would like to call in, we think
the phone's working on Bluetooth and it's eight three to
two two two zero six one sixty three One of
the things that got me thinking about that is right

(06:27):
now I saw on the news where the Constitution talks
about these federal judges do not have constitutional authority to
tell the president he can't do things, and yet they're
doing it on a regular basis. Right now, if Trump

(06:47):
said I want to have eggs for breakfast, somebody would
some judge somewhere would block that. It has got that
childish and that ridiculous, and somebody needs to fix that.
The Congress needs to step in and stop these guys
from violating the Constitution, and the whole world will be
a lot better. All right, acid don the two's year

(07:12):
bill for are we going to acid refluxity?

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Well, if you're expecting people like Congress critters to step
up to the plate and prevent violation of the Constitution,
you're going to be waiting for a while.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah. I kind of feel that way. That's why we
may we may just step in and become the new
Rush Limbaugh radio show. He's not with us, But I
just finished reading one of his books. Are almost finished.
I'm one of the last few pages and it's the
book where he said, see I told you so, And

(07:58):
before that he wrote a book that said the way
things ought to be, and the man was beyond belief
smart and knew how to deal with this stuff. So
maybe we can pick up where he left off if
we need to, because, like Susie said, they're just screwed
up and nobody seems to want to do anything. And

(08:20):
I think sadly one of the reasons that the Doze
stuff hasn't been dealt with with Congress and made permanent
those things they found is because they're going to find
out that on both sides of the aisle people were
getting money and it's a scary, sad thing. Bill, anything

(08:41):
before we jump into acid reflux? You there, Bill, Susie,
are you still there?

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Yes, I'm here, and I know, being looking at mu Zoom's,
I don't think Bill is here because it's not.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Lit up ole. Bill would hang up on us again, So.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Well, yeah, I think we may have to call him
again or how y'all do that?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, I'm sure Steve's already on top of it, all right,
So while we're while we're waiting on Bill to come back. Bill, Uh,
I don't know what it is, but there's quite a
history of us losing him on that phone call. But
it used to only happen on Skype. Now it's happened

(09:43):
for the first time on Zoom, so hopefully Steve can
get him back pretty quick.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Well, you know, now we have consistency on every platform.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, I guess you're right, all right. Acid reflux. Many
people will tell you that they feel like their stomach's burning,
that if it gets real bad, it starts backing up
their throat all the way up to the esophagus, and
it can burn and cause injuries and cancer and all

(10:18):
kinds of horrible things. And so if you read magazines
of the newspaper, or listen to the radio or turn
on the TV, you're going to see something that tells
you that.

Speaker 7 (10:32):
You need.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
A product like prilosec or nexium or a simple over
the counter pepto bismol. Are tombs, and these are exactly
opposite of what you need. What these things do is

(10:55):
they shut down the acid that is in your stomach,
but they don't fix why you had this burning sensation.
And what happens when this is going on is your
stomach and everybody else that pitches in pancreas and liver

(11:16):
and gallbladder and all those guys did not make the
digestive enzymes in the stomach acid. So your food sat
there rotting, kind of like if you threw your food
on a sidewalk in Houston in the summer and it

(11:37):
just rots and starts fermenting. And now you've got acid
in your gut, but not the kind of acid that
the body makes a break food down, the kind of
acid from rotting food, and it'll start backing up. So
what happens. People will take anexium or prival sect, they'll

(12:00):
take pepto bismol or tombs and that don't put out
the fire for a little while, and they think they're okay,
and then pretty soon they start telling you there's foods
that they can't eat. And especially if they've got a
gallbladder problem or lost the gallbladder along the way. Now
you've got the problem of nothing to meet her out

(12:22):
from the liver in the concentrated form and the gallbladder
to help break down fats. You don't have the stomach
acid to break down the food and things like what
is it calcium? Most of your minerals need a very

(12:45):
very acidic stomach or they cannot break down the nutrients
and get them absorbed and help you get healthy. There's
a real each sheet out. They call it the Myths
of Acid Indigestion, And what they say is that ninety

(13:08):
percent at least of those suffering from acid indigestion or
acid reflux are really suffering from too little acid. If
you have good acid in your stomach and you can
start breaking down the products and you've got the digestive
enzymes and the bio metered out from the liver when

(13:31):
you eat to break down fats and everything starts. It'll
be like Susie trying to put all these wonderful ingredients
together and forgetting that the oven doesn't work, so you
can't cook. And that's kind of where the body's at.
The stomach is designed to produce a very strong acid

(13:57):
and begin digestity processes, especially proteins. When there's two little
stomach acid, the food will sit there a long time
and it just begins to rot. You can say fermentation,
but not a good way. And so you've got to

(14:19):
have good acid. So now, if somebody calls me up
and says, doc, I got this burning sensation after I eat,
or I just don't feel right after I eat, because
it could be a combination. It could be they don't
have a gallbladder, or it could be the gallbladder's got problems.
Sometimes the gallbladder gets sluggish and gets stones. A lot

(14:43):
of different things could be going on. So a lot
of times they'll recommend go to ipan because dipan is
a high chloric acid and it will help real quick.
Put that acid in there where you need it. But

(15:04):
I like to go to Diaplex first because Diaplex has zipen,
it has rgin X for the kidneys, it has AF
beta food for the liver and gallbladder, beta cal for
the liver, Petua trophin for the pituitary, and it has
pancree pancreatrophen PMG for the pancreas, and there's important digestive

(15:31):
enzymes in there. And I find most of the time
that works very well. Now, sometimes they've got such a
bad problem and it's been going on so long that
you need to add gas strex to the mix to
keep the fire put out while you're doing healing, and

(15:55):
that way the pepsin and the hydrochloric acid in zy
won't be causing a problem. But usually if somebody's got
that issue where they think they've got acid reflux or
acid indigestion. The diaplex has got enough ipan in it.

(16:16):
I think it's got let me double check my notes,
it's got thirty percent ipan, So that's that's a pretty
good amount. And I had a lady call me one
time coming out of a restaurant and Bismarck, North Dakota.
I think it's North Dakota, yep, and she's thank you,

(16:38):
and Bill's back. I take it.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
Apparently a deal.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Where'd you go?

Speaker 8 (16:47):
Hey? Yeah, what'd you guys do to me? I was here,
I was getting ready to talk about whatever it was
you guys were talking about. Get there.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, there's a common denominator there, and I think it's
got to do with head doctor, but I would never
say that.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
So anyway, ye talk about this something.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
This lady called me and she said, I've been taking diaplex,
but I still felt kind of uncomfortable after dinner, a
little indigestion, just not feeling right. So I had her
try to two diaplects and she said that worked fine.
And what's nice is we're trying to feed the body

(17:31):
the nutrition it needs to fix the problems that it has.
If you, I'll never forget. And I probably told this
story on here before. My brother had gone to a
doctor for acid indigestion and he said the doctor told

(17:52):
him take tombs and it's got calcium, and calcium is
good for you. Well, the problem with tombs one, it's
going to neutralize the acid in your stomach and we're
trying to get it to make good acid and fix
the problem so the food doesn't rot. And number two,

(18:16):
you have to have a very strong below two point
zero on the acidic scale to break down calcium and
in a lot of the other minerals. So if that
doctor would have known anything about nutrition, he would have

(18:36):
known if the tombs works, even in a good working system,
you can't break down that calcium. So putting calcium in
tombs it was just a sales chemick. Anybody that knows
anything about how the stomach works and digestion and stomach

(18:58):
acid and what breaks down venerals would have known that
that that was a double negative. So if you take
an XM or a prilo sec or any of those
type things, you're gonna make the problem worse, and it's
gonna keep getting worse. But you're gonna shut down the

(19:19):
food rotting from not having enough asset to break it down,
and so that'll feel a little better, but you've still
got the sidewalk in Houston with food in the summer
just bad. I mean, that's what's going on inside you.

(19:40):
So if you'll take things, you know, gas treks is
great if you just need to deal with the fire
for a little bit while we will get you doing better.
They usually recommend gas trek short term if it's really bad.
But I've had such good luck with u zipad and

(20:00):
being in diaplex and then maybe sometimes an okra PEPs
and some of those things to help cleanse and heal,
because sometimes you let this go on long enough, you'll
get ulcers and it can back up to uh, your
esophagus and burn and cause cancer and all kinds of

(20:21):
horrible things. So this is something you've got to address.
And if you keep taking any of those ant acids,
you're just covering it up and it's getting worse, but
you're not gonna feel it as much until it's really bad.
And once that acid starts working its way up your

(20:43):
throat to the esophagus, you're in trouble and you've got bad,
bad things, and then they then they want to do
all kinds of extra medications. But the original problem is
you just didn't have enough stomach acid to break down
your food. And when you take an ant acid, it

(21:05):
makes the symptoms stop, but the problem worse, and be
like putting a piece of duct tape over the check
engine light. You know it's still a problem. And the
add acids actually stop the digestive process. So not only
do they shut down that burning from not having enough acid,

(21:29):
but they shut down the body's ability to digest the food.
And that very bad. All those things that stop acid, pepsid, ac,
all them same thing. And you've got to remember minerals,
which we need, minerals and trace minerals will not break

(21:52):
down without a very strong acid in the stomach. And
below two point zero is what I remember. So if
it gets worse and you haven't done nothing about it,
you're gonna be not absorbing nutrients, your food's not gonna
break down, and pretty soon you're gonna lose the ability

(22:14):
to make acid in the stomach and digestive enzymes. This
can get serious. This is this is where they get
into you develop all kinds of degenerative diseases and bad news.
So the main thing, get digestive enzymes and stomach acid,

(22:36):
like diaplex back in your diet, and this way your
food will break down properly, and you know it's a
good thing. Like the there's pepsin and hydrochloric acid in zipan,
and pepsin's pretty special because it helps kill some bad guys.

(22:58):
And then the hydrochlire acid being an acid bacteria. Most
of the bad guys don't like an acidic environment. So
you restore your stomach acid, your digestive enzymes. And that's
why I like the diaplect so much, because it's got liver, gallbladder, kidneys,

(23:21):
urinary tract, it's got pituitary, pancreas, stomach acid, digestive enzymes
all in one capsule. A good start. But if you
let it get real bad, then I'm going to suggest
you take some gas strechs for a little while instead
of taking something like thumbs or any of that that

(23:42):
would shut down your digestive ability and make the problem worse.
All right, Susie anything.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yeah, I remember talking about this several years ago, and
I had read or maybe you had said. I think
it was something I read about the tombs and it's
the quality of the calcium that's not very good. But
something about the tombs and those types of band aids

(24:17):
over the counter, if you will, it would actually want
I don't know if it was long term or short
term or from you know, the onset of taking it
would actually leech calcium from your bones or is that
a fallacy.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, if you're putting bad calcium in there, the body
is going to try real hard to convert it and
break it down. And most people use UH. In the
cheap side, they use calcium carbonate, which is basically limestone.
So you may end up stealing from your body to

(24:56):
complete the metabolic process U and it just isn't going
to work. But the bad thing is if you took
a good calcium, say you took the best calcium in
the world, with a toombs or prilosec or anything, it's
not breaking down. So you've got a big problem. You're

(25:19):
not getting any nutrients and without a very strong acidic stomach,
you can't break that stuff down and your food's going
to keep rotting. So you give enough acid digestive enzymes,
the food will break down properly. You'll absorb the minerals
and we start the process of digestion. We open the

(25:42):
Illeo Seco valve and start sending the troops down the road.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
Bill, you know, always speaking of sounded like words, But
I thought, you know, if you get to be over sixty,
you sure don't want any problems with your sarc off I.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Guess that's so funny. I immediately thought sarcophagus when when
he said that. So, all I can say is great
minds at least this time.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
How funny. Well, now that Susie had to go and
help you out, Bill, it's only fair that I tell
you that she's been cheating on us on another network.
And I'm not going to say. I'm not going to
say Steve's name or the Republic Broadcasting Network. You can't
make me, but she has been cheating on us, and

(26:38):
it's so funny.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
They sent me a song that for the I guess
it was for the place Matt.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
Susie, Yeah, the Placeholder? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah? How does that work? Is it playing right now?

Speaker 6 (26:54):
I think it just plays. I don't know. Steve could explain
it better. I think he played at the beginning. I
know it does an interrupt your music.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Well, I thought this was funny because part of their
show they were talking about when they moved to the
German neighborhood of Fredericksburg that a lot of people looked
at you like you were an outsider because you weren't
from the German community. And then they picked a song
that sounded like a German umpah band, and I just

(27:29):
thought that was perfect. Now, back when Susy was running
for office in politics, I think she was running for
queen or king or something like that, I advised them
and Steve was helping her, and I advise them that
you're in a German community. When you have a function,

(27:52):
you get beer and pretzels and that German mustard and
everybody will vote for you. But they wouldn't listen to me.
And unfortunately Fredericksburg Gillespie County missed out because Susie would
have been really good at the job. Maybe one day,
maybe one day, she'll be our president.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
I know I should have filed the complaint because I
think they were.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Sexist, sexless or sexist.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Probably both.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
All right? Uh So anyway, Bill, but before you bail
her out and jump on the bandwagon, remember she's been
cheating on us, and she's.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
When you got it, she got to use it.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Idea that was coming. I don't have a chance. Ladies
and gentlemen, all of them we got. Everybody's got their
own little entities, but none of them are rapped real tight.
Susie likes country music, but she's not a big fan
of most of the female country stars. She really likes

(29:07):
d White Yoakum that's one of her boyfriends. Bill, I'm
sure he's not a country music fan. And Steve. I
don't know what all Steve likes in a way of music,
but most of them were most of them. We were
troubleshooting this. He kept saying, that's horrible.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Weird stuff like what the song that he put out
on the show tonight.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, well, you know, think about where he came from,
the Bay Area, I mean gone, Yeah, he didn't have
a chance. It's not his.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
Fault, Anti Pelosi stomping grounds.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah. He probably worked on her electronics or something while
it was out there. All right, Well, according to the
cuckoo guys, that's break time. So this is doctor Krupa's
natural health hours. We're gonna go to break real quick.
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Susy Bill myself at Steve in the background, producer.

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Let's say, all right, we are back. Welcome back to
Dtor Couper's Nential Health Dours. It is May twenty eight,
twenty and twenty five. And we were talking about asset
refle and a funny little story for my brother when
the doctor told him ticktoms because it's got calcium minute

(34:07):
and that would not have helped at all. And as
Susy pointed out, you take enough of that bad stuff
and it starts leeching from you and your body just
starts falling apart. Bad bad deal. All right, anything on
any of the acid reflux before we go to all
these really fabulous jokes and things, Susie.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
So before I ever knew you, I guess I at
least had enough sense to not take you know, Tom's
I remember my grandfather. You would see him next to
his favorite chair in his car, in the you know,
glove compartment, just everywhere, and he ate those things all

(34:52):
the time. And I don't know, maybe that made an
impact on me, but I can remember, like I said,
before I ever knew you, I chewed papie tablets, and
you know, it was bad enough. Sometimes of course, I
wasn't doing anything for a minute. I wasn't doing anything

(35:13):
sour dough, you know, unless we went to some you know,
good Italian restaurant, and you know, you could have to
at least me, I would choose six or eight of
those things before I'd ever get any any relief. So
at least I give myself a little bit of credit
for my you know eating those times.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, you did really good. Uh, And your poor grandfather
was suffering terribly and nobody knew what to do for him.
That's sad. Bill. How about you anything before we go
to these I know you're just dying for the jokes.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
Oh see, yeah, I think Toms was probably the first
one through to kind of deal with that issue. My
dad had him around like like she was his grandfather.
They there was just every place, and well, I think
that was the only thing that was available, and of
course the marketing was well done and people bought them,
and here we still are.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah. It was sad, and like I said, the damage
was getting worse and worse and worse, and a lot
of health issues would pop up and the doctors would
start treating symptoms, but nobody went and figured out that, hey,
you don't have enough stomach acid in digestive enzymes. So

(36:33):
basically it'd be kind of like the sprinkler breaking and
you notice the yard slowly dying out there, but it
takes a while. That's what's going on, all right. Had
a group of people at a family function and not
everybody knew everybody, and this gentleman and this lady were

(36:56):
sitting there talking and kind of ended up in a
an argument because she was totally not happy and she
start just kind of ripping into him, and finally she
told him, she said, sir, if you were my husband,
I'd put poison in your coffee, and he said, ma'am,

(37:21):
if I was your husband, i'd drink it. I thought
that was pretty good. All right, here's one for you, Susie.
What's the difference between a dead atheist and a Christian?
They both now believe in God? Yeah, the atheist died

(37:52):
and now he knows. I thought that was funny, all right.
The Lone Ranger and Tonno had camped out out, set
up their little tpe and bedded down for the night,
had the campfire going, and in the middle of the night,
Tono nudges the Lone Ranger and he said, you notice anything.

(38:18):
The Lone Ranger looked up and I said, yeah, it's
a beautiful night sky. I can see the stars, and
there's the Milky Way and the Big Dipper and the
Little Dipper. It's just beautiful. He said. Tono said, you
don't notice anything else? He said, no, what am I missing?

(38:38):
He said, somebody stole our chipie. That's why you can
see the sky.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
That's why bad bad joke.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Really, I can't believe you guys are saying that. I
know you loved them. These are a couple, then little
you might be a redneck and one of them was you.
If you have ever been told that you're lying through

(39:12):
your tooth, you might be a redneck. And if your
dad walks you to school because you're in the same grade,
you might be a redneck. That's pretty good. I like that.
I like that all right. And here's this is the

(39:32):
one that I think is funny. And it's one of
the reasons that I don't like texting. A guy was
doing some work thing and he was away from home
and he texts his wife. But you know how autocorrect
and sometimes you hit the wrong key, and you know,

(39:54):
you just never know. It's not the same as talking
to her. So anyway, he's he's away and she's lonely,
and uh, he text her and he said, having a
really great time, wish you were her?

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Oh oh.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
H you tell me Like Jimmy Duranny, I got a
million of them all right now.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
I just think it's sad you don't don't want to
hear my duck.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
If you got if you got it, we want to
hear it.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
Well, it's not new. I just want to repeat it
because I'm not good at remembering jokes. So it's sort
you know, why does a duck have tail? Feathers to
hide his butt. Quack.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I like that, not a lot, but I like that Bill,
you got any jokes? No?

Speaker 8 (41:03):
All right?

Speaker 3 (41:04):
All right? What else we what else we got on
the agenda? So Billy had nothing nothing about Broms tonight. Huh.
Let's go okay, Well, right before you go into your routine,
I'm gonna play a little clip from Broms so people
know who you were talking about last week. It took
me a while.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
You meant Broms like the ice cream joint.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
No, And it's funny all this stuff that Bill likes
in the it's all in I guess you'd say spending
where you're living, Concerto or concert Farm or Siffany or whatever.
But they're all long. You know, we're talking two hours,
and I was able to find something much sharter, just

(41:52):
a little clip that I could cut up and play
so people know what Bill was talking about. I had
a person contact us through the I guess I guess
they went through the radio show, which would take him
through Go Daddy, right, Susie.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
Yeah, it doesn't matter, it comes to your email.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Okay. Well, anyway, got it about a week or so ago,
and they said they were saw something about me online
and we're looking for a doctor about nutrition and asked
me if I was an electrician in the Navy, because
they saw that there was electrical but they didn't know

(42:41):
if I was electricians mate or aviation electrician or construction electricians.
So they asked a couple of questions and I didn't
hear back from him for over a week, and I
heard from him today and it was funny. They said
I was when I was looking for somebody that and

(43:02):
he called it a nutritionist, but I don't think that's
what he meant because they're pharmaceutically trained and I let
him know that. But he said, when I was looking
for one, my name came up. And I don't know
how because I don't have it out there in any
form or matter, unless centered process, or unless people have

(43:23):
spoke about me, I don't know. But anyway, he said
that's how he found me. And then I had told
him back then a week or so ago, I said,
you know, tell me what you need and I'll tell
you my recommendations and how to get them, and then
you can decide what you want to do. So today

(43:44):
I got an email and I said, I'm busy working
on the show right now, but I'll answer a couple
of quick things, because they wanted to know about cholesterol,
and I said, cholesterol is a good thing, so we
need to talk about that later. And they were asking
about nutritionists, and I said, well, nutritionists is pharmaceutically trained

(44:08):
and they're not doctor, so there's a big difference than
what somebody like me does and what they do and
who trained them. So because I've talked to nutritionists and
their trained scarbic acid, calcium carbonate, mixed the cofferolls for
vitamin E, all that kind of stuff, and that's that's

(44:28):
what they believe because that's what they were taught and
they never were taught any different. A lot of mine
came from a lot of extra studying on my own.
But anyway, I gave them a little information and said
I'd be glad to help. So we'll see if we
hear back from them. And then this is one of
those really sad stories for me. Somebody that was a really,

(44:54):
really good friend and they don't live in my area,
but I know knowing them for a long time. They
got sick with might have been pancreatic cancer, and by
the time they contacted me. They had done everything in
the world that I would never do. But some people

(45:17):
that know me told him, how come he didn't call Doc,
because you know Doc, he's your friend. So he finally did,
and I looked at what he was taking and it
was horrible. There wasn't one thing he was taking that
was designed to help. Everything was designed, I don't know,

(45:39):
not even to cover up symptoms, just bad news. It
was destroying his kidneys. The medications they put him on
mest his kidneys out so bad that they put tubes
in there, which I think that was a terrible mistake.
And anyway, when I first start talking to him, he

(46:01):
could hardly talk. He was so miserable, no energy, no nothing.
And within about three weeks he told me and friends
of his told me that he was like a different
man and he was bouncing back and he was feeling good,

(46:21):
and we were doing only things that would help. We
weren't doing anything that's gonna destroy him. And that's the
thing I don't get. They know your kidneys are in trouble,
so what do they do. They keep giving you things
that are destroying your kidneys and liver, And it just
broke my heart and I told him, I said, nobody

(46:42):
was helping you. They were giving you bad stuff, and
you were taking because you didn't know and you were scared.
So anyway, we had about three or four weeks miraculous
stuff going on. I was feeling so great, and somebody
talked to him into going in for a checkup. I
guess a lot of people think the blood work and

(47:05):
all that stuff really means a lot, and it doesn't.
So anyway, he called me from there because they had
just done some tests and he said they're putting me
in the hospital because they I got an action in
my blood. And I said, I wouldn't do that if
it was me, because we're already addressing all those kind

(47:27):
of things. And I don't buy that for a minute.
But it was too late. He'd already told them okay.
And I got a text last night after I went
to bed that was there this morning telling me that
he had passed away at about nine thirty last night.

(47:48):
They said they had him in the hospital and he
didn't have insurance. He probably was on Medicaid or Medicare
or whatever the state government does, and they could only
keep him in the hospital so long, and then they
don't get paid, so they got to get rid of you.
So they decided to ship him out, and one of

(48:11):
his friends told me they had not fed him for days,
and then they shipped him to rehab, but by then
it was too late, too much pain, the lack of
nutrition from not being fed for several days. It's like

(48:32):
they just wanted to get rid of him. I guess.
I don't know, but very sad, way too young, and
a really really good person, good friend, and I was
so excited that we were seeing him get better. And
in my opinion, what they did was nothing good and

(48:58):
he lost the battle. But if I could have got
him not to go or walk back out the door,
I'm pretty sure we were on the right road because
he was he was doing so much better, and it
was so nice because he would call me every few
days and give me an update, and that's wonderful. I've

(49:20):
had some people lately who I had gave up on
because I said, get a hold of me a week,
ten days, two weeks tops, I need to know what's happening.
And over a month later I get an email and

(49:40):
I told him I'd given up on you, but I'm
going to help. And here's what I suggest, and this
is what you can do. But I've got to the
point and Bill, Bill, you kind of taught me some
of this. I used to let all that stuff eat
me up because you want to do so much to

(50:01):
help people, and I've had to learn to let go.
If if I asked you to contact me in a
week to ten days and I've been working for free,
I'm doing this to help you, especially because a friend
of yours sent you my way and you can't show
the same respect and get back to me that Then

(50:23):
that used to tear me up. I used to think,
why why aren't they doing this? And it would wear
on me because I knew we could help. And I
finally I've just had to let go. You can't help everybody.
Not everybody wants your help, and a lot of people
just aren't gonna, you know, work with you very well,

(50:44):
so you have to let go. But this losing my
friend was bad, bad, bad. I woke up to that
message on my phone and he had been doing so great,
and I knew something was wrong because I hadn't heard
from him, and he wasn't like that and he was
so happy that he was feeling better, and the pain

(51:06):
was less and everything was going great, and he went
back to the hospital. So ladies and gentlemen, you know
you have that right, you can choose to do that
kind of stuff. But I'm telling you right now, if
you've got a doctor like me and you're seeing progress,

(51:27):
don't go to the hospital and let him take you backwards.
If that's not what you want. I mean, if you
really think they're going to help you, and that's your choice,
and you have the blessing, but I wouldn't do it.
And to me, there's nothing worse than the thought of

(51:48):
dying in some cold, miserable hospital with nobody around you
that cares. And he didn't have any family left, I
don't think. And the lady that called me said that
where he was it was like sixty degrees all the time,

(52:10):
and it was so cold. He was dis miserable every day,
and they hadn't fed him for days, and because all
those things going on, and he couldn't take the stuff
that I had given him because it was back home.
The pain was excruciating and he was just suffering miserably.
So I guess the only good thing there is he's

(52:34):
definitely not suffering in this world anymore. But boy, it
breaks my heart. And we were doing so good, and
I just I really feel bad that I didn't get
a chance to do more and see him get better.

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Why did they do that to people? Why sixty degree?
Why did they not feed people?

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I don't know. The person that told me couldn't understand
it either. They said that they had talked to him
and he hadn't been fed for days. I've never heard
of that, But I think a lot of it's got
to do with money today, and you know, he didn't
have any, so whatever he was in there on I

(53:21):
don't know if it was Medicare or Medicaid or what.
They don't They don't like that as much, if you know,
they got timelines, and probably Medicare because Medicare is real
strict on how much they pay for how long. And
so he reached the point where they just basically threw
him out and send him to reab and they could

(53:42):
deal with it. And that's sad.

Speaker 8 (53:47):
Still anything, Yeah, I think one of the things, particularly
when you're when you're ill, you have an illness and
you're pretty much alone, I fear really distort your judgmental capability.
What you what you might never agree to if you

(54:09):
felt better, all of a sudden, you're willing to do
almost anything to try and feel better. To have people
leave you alone and put badgering you to do something,
you go along with what they want. And if you
if you were more more of yourself, more of the
way that you usually are, that you probably wouldn't wouldn't

(54:31):
fall for a lot of that. But I think people
become so afraid, and of course I think the industry
plays on that that it makes it very difficult. And
when you're feeling alone and feeling isolated, all you want
to do is somebody to help. And here's somebody who's
telling you what to do, and so you go along

(54:53):
with it, and that may not be at all what
you would do otherwise.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Yeah, that's very true. I can't imagine the loneliness and
you're in pain, and especially when you were doing so good.
I was told that somebody else was behind the fact
of pushing him to go in for the checkup, because

(55:18):
they were going to be out of town and they
had been checking on him and they didn't want to
come back and find that he had died where he
was staying, so they kind of put a little pressure
too So this is another case where a lot of
well meaning people maybe to put pressure and tried to influence,

(55:46):
but they were wrong. And you know, it's just sad,
and he wasn't in any shape after a few days
at that hospital to make good decisions. Like you said, Billy,
is he anything else?

Speaker 6 (56:03):
No, I just leaves me speechless.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah. It broke my heart because this was a good
man and we were doing so good. I mean, it
was amazing if I had a played a recording of
how he sounded when he first called me, and about
a week to ten days after he started taking some

(56:27):
suggestions that I made amazing, I mean, and he was
such a good patient, you know, keeping me updated and
letting me know. And then people would suggest stuff to
him and he would call me and say so and
so said I ought to do this. What do you think?
And I'd say I wouldn't, but you have that right

(56:50):
to make your own decision, he said. All I wanted
to know is what you said. He said, you're my doctor,
and I'm doing what you say. I said, great, but
he was doing so good, and that stupid stuff with
the tubes and his kidneys, you're just asking for problems.
So I don't know anything.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
Yeah, they just love putting in tubes, in stints and
mesh and you name it, all things that God did
not intend to be in the body.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Yeah, and you know, the sad thing is it's bad
enough that they probably decided he was dying, but they
didn't do anything just help him. And they didn't even
do anything for the pain. From what I was told, it's.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
It's my understanding that they were doing this, not feeding
people crap during COVID. It's almost like they were trying.
It's hard to not be skeptical, but you know, when
they don't like babies, but they also don't like the elderly,

(58:08):
the vulnerable. You know, they're taxing on the system, if
you will, so why not get rid of it to
save yourself money? However, I mean, dose is already pursued
that dead people, both dead people get so securedy and

(58:28):
I don't know, maybe there's more benefit for some two
than nefarious ones for people to be dead.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, I don't know, but it's sure what was said.
I just felt so good. And then he goes and
they check him in and see what happened before that,
maybe a week before that is somehow he moved and
those tubes came out, and he had to go back

(58:58):
and they had to do it again. Well, nothing but
bacteria and bad things comes to my mind when they're
in and out with these tubes and all that. It's
just a And then when you go to the hospital
they issue a staff infection in the paperwork, so you
get that right up front. That's a gift. So just

(59:18):
very sad for me, and I'm not going to let
that happen to me. All right, guys, we are pretty
close to break bill anything at all. We got it
just a little bit.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
Oh no, no, I think we pretty well covered it.
But it's so again, you know, what the insurance companies
have done to healthcare in this company is just criminal.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Oh yeah yeah. And this was probably, like I said,
Medicare or something like that. All right, well, ladies and gentlemen,
this is Doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hours. We're so glad
you're here and we're going to go to break So
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All right, we are back, Welcome back to doctor Crooper's
Natural Health Tours. It is May twenty eight, twenty twenty five,
and we've been all over the place tonight. But it's
that time for Bill to do his weekly topic. Bill,
you got one up your.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
Sleeve, don't Yeah? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
All right, Well, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:05:48):
You go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I'm gonna say last week you talked a lot about
Brahms and so I wanted people to hear a little
clip of what you were talking about, because I'm sure
a lot of us, uh don't know a lot of
that kind of music. So let me play a little
clip and then we'll jump right into your weekly topic.

Speaker 8 (01:06:07):
So here we go, all right, hm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
H h.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
H m hm, all right, we're back. That wasn't as loud.
I couldn't get a very loud recording of that, so

(01:07:11):
not getting at all. Could you hear it? Very good? Bill? No, No, Susane, No,
But I don't know how.

Speaker 8 (01:07:19):
I don't know how much of that's me or how
much of that's just you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I know it wasn't that loud
compared to some of the other recordings that I can
pull off there, So anyway, Bill, take it away.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
Well, so what wasn't So what was it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Well? It was proms, but I don't remember. I'd have
to go look at my note on what it was. Okay,
I knew you would know if it was loud enough,
but it wasn't loud enough.

Speaker 8 (01:07:53):
Yeah, it was very it was very quiet. It was
obviously a choral piece, but I didn't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Was It was like part one of something I can't
remember now.

Speaker 8 (01:08:07):
Part one of part two. Yeah, yeah, when I was
I mentioned last week that I had taken a long
seminar in Brahms work, and the fellow who was who
taught the seminar at that point was in his eighties

(01:08:30):
and as a child he had played the piano for Broms.
Broms died in like eighteen ninety six, and this guy
was born in like eighteen ninety so he's a child.
But Broms was very interested in and tolerantive of the
kids doing that sort of thing. And I'm sure he
was attentive and encouraging and all. But you know, we

(01:08:53):
think of these composers now as being a long time ago,
and yeah, uh we're talking one hundred and fifty years.
But you know, when you meet somebody or know somebody
who in fact knew one of these guys, it makes
it a makes it a more present a kind of situation,

(01:09:15):
the sense it's a different kind of reality. But anyway,
it's uh, yeah, Rob's is one of those one of
those interesting people. He had an interesting life, never married,
he was he was a composer, He was a musician,
and that was his life. But he of course hands

(01:09:35):
had sorrow in his life. He said something to the
effect that life robs us of so much more than
death does, and I thought, yeah, that's probably true. That's
probably true. But yes, we haven't died yet. We weally
don't know. I was going to talk about a piece

(01:09:57):
of yeah, similar to to what I had talked about
last week. I decided, uh not to at this point because, uh,
it's a very complicated piece and it's uh, it's a

(01:10:18):
piece that's very personal to me, and I have got
to find a way to talk about something that really
needs about a month to talk about because it's a
huge piece, and it's a very complicated piece and a
very in many ways disturbing piece. But it's again, I

(01:10:41):
think every musician, well, I should say that most a
few musicians, certainly ones that I have known, have all
had a particular piece of music that they would never
talk about with anybody else. It was just too personal
to them. And and I think most of the artists have,

(01:11:02):
depending upon what kind of an artists they are, whether
they're a painter or whether they all have pieces that
somehow connect with them in a way that they really
don't don't have the capability or the desire to share,
to share. And I think that we all, if if

(01:11:25):
we stop and think about it, we all have events
in our lives that for which that would apply. That
we have things that were very special to us, very
important to us. It may or may not be important
to anyone else, but there's really no need to try
and have somebody else understand understand that feeling if pame

(01:11:52):
across of an idea a couple of weeks ago, and
kind of thinking about it, that along with all this
other stuff that that we all have, each every every
one of us has has a need to create, something,
to create too, to put something of ourselves into something

(01:12:17):
that we build, or that we make, or that we cook,
or that that we write. Composers certainly do that, authors
do it, painters do it, but we all have we
all have within us this this this this deep need

(01:12:41):
to create. And the the stimulus for that thought was
that as and the art of a culture begins to degenerate,
begins to become meaningless, that culture tends to lose lose faith,

(01:13:07):
and it tends to lose the ability to love, by which, okay,
so why don't we define that art art being just
about everything architecture. We tend to forget that the architecture
is considered one of the arts. And if you look
at the at the major civilizations from Egypt to Greece

(01:13:29):
to Rome, of their their monuments, their lasting manuments were architectural.
They've got the pyramids, we've got temples and Thebes and Egypt,
and I suspect if you go back farther to Mesopotamia,
it's the same kind of thing. Eating of Greek architecture.
The Parthenon, for instance, these things that have lasted thousands

(01:13:53):
of years and so much of their of their art
is in scolucture, was part of that architecture. Again, seeking
of the Parthenon, the friezes above the entrance to the
Parthenon were figures. They were sculptures. There were figures, They

(01:14:14):
were betrayals of gods. The same thing in Egypt. So
many of the huge, as we call the monumental sculptures,
way more than life size, were really part of the architecture.
They held up roof beams, they held up the ceilings,
they held up structurally important and cruciable hearts of buildings.

(01:14:38):
Rome was much the same way, and as as those
capabilities to create that sort of thing began to diminish
the civilizations, that culture began to diminish as well, of course,
with Egypt and Greece and Rome. As the culture is

(01:15:01):
diminished and the values and strengthens those cultures diminished, they
were invaded. That also helps to end the culture pretty dramatically.
But why did you know? After Rome there was a
period of one thousand years where there was really no
in the West, in Western culture, in European culture, there

(01:15:24):
was no There was no architecture to speak of until
until the Gothic cathedrals began to be built. And those
were pretty pretty impressive pieces of architecture, considering that they
didn't have steel structures, considering that they didn't have pre
cast concrete or reinforcement of any kind. It was all

(01:15:45):
it was all physics and geometry, and it was it's impressive.
But looking at at our own time and what many
people liked to think of as the the degeneration of
art in the twentieth century were the expressionists in painting,

(01:16:07):
Paul Clay for instance, and others. Because so Adrian took
art to a place that was uncomfortable for most folks,
certainly musically we had that with the twelve phone system,
which was completely different vocabulary for composition, which was it

(01:16:32):
was more of an academic, to my mind, academic exercise
that you didn't go away from listening to it. You
didn't go away hamanane out of it. It wasn't there
was very little of us as human beings to connect to.
It was an intellectual exercise, and that's why we don't
hear it anymore. But that as the art began to

(01:16:59):
fall upon art, so did so did faith. So did
the ability to believe, so did our ability to love.
And by love, I mean to respect. That's you use
the word a lot, and I think, and what do

(01:17:19):
we mean by respect? And it's an acknowledgement of the
of the value of another until we're given ample evidence
that we don't need to put that kind of value
on it. You know, there are bad folks around, we
need to respect them up to a point. And then
after that, no, oh, but nonetheless we've lost the ability

(01:17:44):
to connect with each other. And I think that, you know,
the implication of the original concept was that as as
the art began to interiorate, it was invariably followed by
the deterioration of faith, of the ability to believe in

(01:18:04):
something greater, and the ability to connect to with each other,
to love the humanity within us all and I think
I seeking at the time. Well, and it's the old
chicken and the egg thing which came first, was our
Did art begin to degenerate because we lost our faith,

(01:18:27):
because we lost our ability to trust others, to have
respect for others? Or was it the other way round?
And the answer is probably yes. It both occurs simultaneously.
None of that stuff is ever singularly discreet in terms
of its stone to self destruction. But coming back to

(01:18:47):
the need to create, I don't think that. I don't
see that. I don't see the certainly in the music business, well,
the prominent performers, I can't name any conductors. I don't
know anybody anybody writing decent music. I don't know of

(01:19:09):
any doesn't mean they're not there, just mean I don't
know about them. But you know, in visualance time he
was well known, not just among the uppercrust folks, but
he was well known the name, you know. When he died,
Vienna basically shut down for a couple of weeks because
it was of his of his stature, the same thing

(01:19:35):
with so many of these these composures that were alive
in the eighteen hundreds, that they were they were viable
parts of their culture. I don't see that, you know,
we've we have we've had certainly not so much after
nineteen seventy, I'm guessing. But in this country we had,

(01:19:57):
we had some composers that were fine, fine artists, we
had performers that were fine artists, and and I don't
I just don't since that anymore. Maybe it's just because
it's I'm getting older and I prefer to think about
things that are familiar to me rather than the new things.

(01:20:17):
But again, we seems that we have lost in this culture.
And I'm talking now about American culture, not just Western culture,
but probably wasn you know, European culture as well. We've
lost that that that creative drive. It seems to me

(01:20:37):
we haven't. We haven't found a way to replace the
void after the First World War and after the Second
World War. I think that I think that distorted people's
faith in in the greater good, and and as as
a result, that's been a ye. I hope that, I

(01:21:00):
hope it comes back. I think this is maybe this
is a cycle maybe it's a cyclic phenomenon that there
are times there are dry spells, and there are rich spells,
and there are times that are kind of in between
all of those very transitional periods. But h to have

(01:21:22):
have the ability to understand that we need to be creating.
We need to be thinking about things. We need to
be thinking about, yeah, making a quilt or making a dinner,
or we need to be thinking about about things that
we can pour sort of our spirits into and have

(01:21:46):
it be an enriching process, not only for ourselves but
for others. It's hard hard for me to see that
when people walk around with their nose stuck in a
tablet or a cell phone or a computer's creed, you
know that's an isolation. These are isolating elements of our culture.

(01:22:08):
And I think that the price that we pay for
that is the severe price that we've lost and are losing.
And maybe we've lost that that ability to really connect
in a meaningful way with us. How many? How many
who found conversations do we have with others? How many?

(01:22:28):
How much? How often do we share with other things
that we feel passionately about. We don't. We don't either,
We're afraid of being ridiculed or argued with or stuff.
I think that you know, for people to be able
to express what they think and what they feel, it

(01:22:50):
doesn't mean that we have to argue with them about
it or contradict them, or prove them wrong or prove
them right. I think we just have to accept that
they're sharing with it's something that they feel very passionately about,
and not to be judgmental the difficult to do. We're
a very judgmental culture, and that seems that the disparity

(01:23:12):
between right and wrong is growing and very clearly if
if somebody doesn't agree with me, they're wrong, what do
I got to do to convince them or at least
talk them down? This is this is you know, we
kind of we kind of do that here and on

(01:23:32):
our program that we'll talk about things. We don't always
agree about things, and that's a good thing. We shouldn't
always agree about things. I think, I think kind of
an endemic agreement is it's a slow death. But we
do need to we do need to have the ability
to really honestly speak about things that we that we

(01:23:53):
care about and if we if we disagree to disagree,
and we can agree to degree and all of the
day at that. But it's again, it's it's just this
deterioration of of values that have been around for centuries.
Really there's certainly decades, but centuries and where things were

(01:24:18):
a little more clearly cut, you know, back to back
to ugly music and ugly art. It still is someone's
expression of what they're feeling inside. It doesn't mean we
have to like it, and it doesn't mean we have
to buy it or stand there and gaze at it

(01:24:39):
or sit there and listen to it. But I think
even if we don't like some of that stuff, it
is it is part of our time, and I think
is an indicative of a kind of an outlook that
is in flux and that it's changing. Some people enjoy change.

(01:25:01):
I find as I become older, I don't enjoy change.
I like things to be the same. It's just easier
that way, you know. I don't like to have to
buy shoelaces online. I want to be able to go
to a shoestore and get the things. I just don't
like that. It's just me. But again, being aware that
there's so much around us is as I say, in flux,

(01:25:27):
it's changing we're trying to do, and I think a
lot of it revaluate things you mentioned a while ago.
We're waiting for Congress to do something. It's just yeah,
good luck for that is Susan said. Congress isn't go
to do anything. They haven't done anything for decades. Why
should they start now? How do we how don't we
kind of find our place and all of that? How

(01:25:48):
do we find our sense of safety in our sense
of of maintaining the things that we all, that we
grew up with, that with that are familiar, that are safe,
that are comfortable for us. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Good stuff, like always Sussie anything.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
No, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Yeah, you haven't had one bill that wasn't interesting. I
imagine when you were a professor and when you were
working analyzing psychos that you were good. You were interesting,
And I have a feeling a lot of people enjoyed

(01:26:33):
your classes. So pretty good, pretty deep stuff always makes
me think, and I like that. I saw something today
that said, parents, your number one job is to teach
your kids that think for themselves. I always felt like

(01:26:54):
our number one job was to prepare them for a
world of people that didn't love them because you never
know what's out there. But that teaching them to think
pretty important.

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
So nothing at all susy, anything grab you that's stuck
in your mind.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
I can't get the concept of buying shoe lacers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
For me either. Oh funny, Well, we're just about a break.
I'm still saddened by the loss of my friend and
the loss of a patient. That kind of stuff always
eats at me.

Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
Doctor is this is probably worth another half hour in
the next couple of weeks. But dealing with with grief,
dealing with loss is a huge part of our lives,
and nobody keeps you how to do it or what
it's all about. And you know, I know, I've said

(01:28:05):
it's a long time ago that you know. One of
the terms that you hear about death is bereavements. You know,
where the family was breathed, where we were begriefed. When
it comes from an old English word that means to
tear away. A man in battle was bereft of his arm,

(01:28:26):
or was bereft of his life. Something was literally torn away.
And when we lose people that we care about, things
that we care about, it doesn't have to be just people.
It could be to be any anything it is that
constitutes a loss for us. It tears away part of
our self, part of who we are. It's hard, it's difficult,

(01:28:52):
and nobody really has an easy answer to that because
I think we all have to deal with it in
our own way. But we have to recognize that we
have lost something. But we have been made richer, frequently
by by the whole experience. You know, the thing that

(01:29:12):
teaches us about life is death. Then the teachers is
about death as life. Okay, so how do we how
do we incorporate that into it? But but dealing with
with this sense of frustration and loss, what could we
have done? We did what we could do. Yeah, period.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
But and you know, I think guys handle that really
different from women, and then each person handles it differently.

Speaker 8 (01:29:50):
Yep, yep, all right, well what's that actually? For men?
We tend to internalize that process. Yeah, you go out and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Build something or you know, yeah, all right, Well we
are great guys. This is doctor Crupa's Natural Health Hours
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Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to Doctor Cooper's
Natural Health Hours. It is the twenty eighth of May,
and this is the time of the show where we
try to help poor Susy the Tequila Tek come up
with the name of her family business, and I happen

(01:33:06):
to know for a fact that it is radiation and
death rays construction.

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
Susie, it's a renovation and sometimes it takes my breakaway
when you say these things. It's renovation and design construction,
and we do a new construction from the ground up,
and we do remodel. We could be reached at well.

(01:33:31):
First off, you can go to doc Kripa dot com,
go to the ABAT page, scroll down and there's a
link that will take you to our website, and we
can be reached also at eight three zero three seven
seven two one three one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
All right, Susy, take it away.

Speaker 6 (01:33:51):
Okay, So Mother's Day, my son to Miss Antonio and
we did some fun stuff. But uh, I'm sorry, there's
an echo and it's distracting. And on the way back,
we stopped at this little sour dough stand. It's literally

(01:34:13):
like a little covered wagon and it's obviously homemade. And
I have looked everywhere to see if she's got a website.
I think I'm just gonna call and talk to her.
Everything sour dough, she makes it herself. And she even

(01:34:35):
had sour dough chocolate chip cookies. You know, since we're
talking about you know, the acid in ingestion and whatnot.
You know, fermented foods are our friend. I find I'd
do much better when I eat sour dough. Of course,

(01:34:56):
all of my pickle and you know, some of my
own ferments. But I asked my husband last night, can
we just move in next door to her, and this
is I'm bringing this up because this is so unheard
of nowadays. You know, this is on the honor system.

(01:35:18):
You can pull up there and you can just pick
what you want. She has a sour dough jalapeno and
cheese loaf, and these are artisan loafs. They're beautiful and
then when you slice into it, you can tell this
is real old world sour dough. And so we got

(01:35:41):
that one, and then just some traditional sour dough, cinnamon
raising sour dough, and I was reluctant. I'm going sour
dough chocolate chip cookies and these are huge. I would
eat half of winter. But I'm gonna talk to her.

(01:36:04):
I don't know if she would be interested in coming
on the show because I don't know if she does shipping.
But how you know, how blessed are we in this
little podunk count of Harper to have you know, an
artisan like this, you know, to makesy sour dough. And
not only that, you pull up there and you get

(01:36:26):
a loaf of regular it's twelve dollars. You put it
in her little drop box. And of course she's keeps
up with the times and she'll do like Venmo and
and something else. And it's just a little treasure. I'm kids,
you not. It's just you go down a country road

(01:36:47):
and turn left on another country road and then there
she is on the corner of another country road and
so it's just fabulous. And wanted to drag a little
bit about her. And it's uh bogusius farm stand b
o g u s I a apostrophe s And spell

(01:37:12):
that again.

Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
B o g.

Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
U s I a apostrophe s farm standing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
It's her. I'm already in love right her.

Speaker 6 (01:37:26):
Her logo is the covered wagon with the Saint Bernard
that pulls it. So, okay, y'all, remember, uh, sourdough is
fermented food, and be careful when you buy it retail,
grocery store or whatnot. Sometimes they add a sour dough flavoring. Okay.

(01:37:46):
So I got this plice to do this Monday, but
I haven't done it yet, but I am going to
do it this weekend. I'm going to make my own ketchup.
It is ketchup, not cats up, and it's it's you know,
it's gonna be I think it's gonna be fun to make.

(01:38:06):
Now you can eat this when you get through with
it as is, of course, just like any sauce, it
needs to you know, sit in the fridge an hour
or so for all the flavors to intensify. So so simple.
It's three cans of tomato paste. And when I was looking,

(01:38:27):
I don't ever, hardly ever buy comuto paste. But there's
like a really small can. And then there's an excize
of reading her her little blog here. It is three
small cans, tablespoon of olive oil, teaspoonful of onion powder,
a tablespoon of molasses. And I don't know why you

(01:38:52):
couldn't use that steam's whole cane syrup that you already have, doc,
I have a third of a cup to a half
of a cup of apple cider vinegar until you get

(01:39:14):
to the consistency that you want. Tablespoon of worcestershire, a
tablespoon of chili powder less if you don't want it
so spicy, half a teaspoon of ginger powder, or you
can use, you know, a tablespoon of fresh minced and

(01:39:35):
just a little reminder, if you're using fresh of anything,
be it this ginger, garlic or whatever, you're going to
use more of that than you would if it were dried.
If it's dried, it's intense fied. Half a teaspoon of
fish sauce. And so I've been doing a lot of

(01:39:58):
reading on fish sauce. I think I talked about that
last week, Coo when we talked about that die Con dish.
If you live in a in a bigger city, you
know you can get it from an Oriental market. If not,
you know you can order it online. And then half

(01:40:21):
a teaspoon of garlic powder and half a teaspoon of salt.
And so then you add all of these ingredients together,
you know, everything except for the apple side of vinegar

(01:40:45):
and whisk. It really good to bring it all together.
And then you're going to add your apple side of
vinegar until you get it the consistency that you want,
and then you just put it in a bottle. I
have seen and now this does make quite a bit.

(01:41:07):
So you could cut this recipe in half or even
in thirds. But I have seen like the mustard and
the ketchup bottles at Amazon. If you didn't have alf
would prefer glass. However, if you're going to to ferment it,
this is just taking it one step. It's ready to

(01:41:29):
use as I just outlined. But if you want to
kick it up a notch make it a healthier food
and fermented, then she's got some instructions you know, for
doing that, and so you could even do part of

(01:41:53):
it just regular catch up. I don't know why you
want to the rest of it fermented, And so you're
going to probably add about half of a tablespoon more
of salt for this to work properly, and then about

(01:42:14):
an eighth of a cup of whey. So to make
it super simple. You know, most of us have hopefully
a good unflavored yogurt, like like a Greek yogurt, and
it doesn't even have to be a Greek yogurt. But

(01:42:36):
when you open up a fresh container of yogurt, you'll
see see that Brian, if you will, it's kind of
a yellowish color, and most of us get our spoon
and stir it up, stir it back into the yogurt.
So since all you need is half of a cup,
you can open up a yogurt and pour off that way,

(01:43:03):
that'll become your starter culture. But those of you who
are already brining and fermenting, you could use the eighth
of a cup of that ferment, And basically what she's

(01:43:24):
saying in this recipe is that adding this way or
this brine from a previous ferment is optional if you've
added enough salt. That's why she's adding another half of
a tablespoon of salt to the portion of the ketchup

(01:43:46):
that she wants to ferment that it's gonna ferment just find. However,
she does come in and say that adding that way
makes the ferment process happen faster. So from there, you're

(01:44:06):
just gonna put a plastic lid on a wide mouth
Mason jar. And she says she doesn't really like to
use the airlock lids for this kind of a thick ferment.

(01:44:28):
And she said, and you're probably not even gonna have
to burp it either, meaning opening the jar, let it burp.
Close the jar. She says that she leaves this batch
in a windowsill for about a week and a half
with no with no problems. But then again, she admits

(01:44:52):
it's chili in her home, So in Texas, I don't
think I would do that. You could easily just set
it in a in a pantry, and the fermentation process
in itself, the chemistry behind it is going to prevent mold.

(01:45:13):
So that's a lot of words to tell you that
this is pretty simple. But what I'm going to do
is I'm going to take and I love this website.
It's one of my go tos. It's a Healing Harvest
homestead dot com. But what I'm going to do is

(01:45:34):
I'm going to take this link and I'm going to
put it below today's show on Rumble.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
And that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
That's all I got. And I can't wait to try
some fermented catch up catch.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Sounds sounds good. I want some of that lady's bread.
Oh and I looked it up. Bogusia is Polish for
God's gift.

Speaker 6 (01:46:06):
Huh, well, I need to go back. You know, I
was so concerned. You know, the basic loaf of just
playing traditional saradough was twelve dollars. The hallapen cheddar raisin, cinnamon,

(01:46:27):
what else I'm forgeting she's got rosemary. Anyways, those are
fourteen and these cookies are fifteen for a box. So
I mean, my my son bought all this for me,
so I'm not gonna get as many the next time.
And what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna cut these

(01:46:47):
loaves in half, all of them and put the put
half of it in the freezer because you don't want
to lose a crumb of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Yeah, how do you keep them where they're good when
you take him out of the freezer.

Speaker 11 (01:47:02):
So, needless to say, it wasn't long term refrigeration or
in the freezer.

Speaker 6 (01:47:11):
And so because of that, I just put him in
a gallon freezer bag when I took it out the
other day, and it thought it was fine. It was
just as soft. I mean, if you were going to
do long term, I think what I read was wrapping
it in like a plastic rab then foil and then

(01:47:36):
put it in a freezer bag. But you're not going
to have this bread that long. I'll get some sensia.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Well, I was thinking, and I'm pretty sure Bill won't
mind if I speak for him on this case. We
don't mind no matter how much money you spend.

Speaker 8 (01:47:54):
On us, right Bill, Absolutely, I.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Mean that brand sounded good.

Speaker 8 (01:48:02):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
I had to tell you guys last week we doubled
our top spreaker stuff and this week we just while
we're talking tonight, went over it by one. It just
blows my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
It just.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
Just taking off. I think that the team of all
four of us just clicks and works so well. I
know we're doing good on Rumble. But this goes out
to iHeartRadio, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon, Apple, goes everywhere, must
go to about fifteen places, Deezer, and it goes to

(01:48:47):
our friend down in Florida on k s O Talk
Radio that she replaced it for us. So pretty cool.
We've got the show doing well. I know it does
well Rumble because every week I go look at the
numbers and they're pretty good. So all right, well, we're
at that time of the show where Susie, if you

(01:49:07):
like to close out anything, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
Well, I don't know. You know, you talked about politics earlier,
and if we you know, we'll talk about politics politics
if you want to. And I'm just so disillusions, if
you will.

Speaker 11 (01:49:32):
By the Texas Legislature, Ken Paxton visited the House yesterday
and I'm sure it was to.

Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
Promote some bill about election integrity and and why you
know we have to beg for election integrity is beyond
me and I had forgotten, but I don't know when
the first time the House leadership ordered the Sergeant in

(01:50:11):
Arms to remove Kim Paxton from the floor. Happened, but
it happened on Monday only. And I told you there
was about ten, give or take of House reps that
needed to remain and the rest of them need to go.

(01:50:33):
I mean, I'm glad I'm not there. But Monday the
leadership to Dustin Burrows had our Texas Attorney General removed
by the Sergeant at arms from the House floor.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
That that whole thing up there and all sudden disgusted me.
They are a many corrupt version. It sounds like of
what's been going on in DC. It's just very sad.
And yeah, it's a good thing you're not up there,
because they would have destroyed your ability to respect any

(01:51:19):
of them if you were there all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:51:21):
So there was a picture that was posted about that
event removing Paxton. So the picture was of Paxston and
thirteen House reps. Keep in mind, we've got one hundred
and fifty of those critters. Only thirteen would stand in

(01:51:42):
a photo off with that man.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
Sad. Yeah, we're gonna, like I said, you want to
talk about politics anytime, any subject. We're going to start
being the new Rush Limbaugh. Only there's four of us
instead of just one, because Rush had it right, and
people want to hear good things and they want to

(01:52:07):
know the truth, and we're going to continue to do that.
And like Bill said, everybody doesn't have to always agree,
but you can agree to disagree respectfully and let it
go with that anything, Bill, Nope, No, I think.

Speaker 8 (01:52:38):
You know, the state of the state is so indescribable
to me in terms of what what's going on, both
the federal government the state government. You know, the federal
government seems to be preoccupied in keeping the other guy

(01:52:59):
from doing what they want to have done, and the
good of the country just as is way down on
the list. These people are there to acquire power and
wealth and they're doing a fine job.

Speaker 6 (01:53:15):
You know, Bill's right. But what's interesting to me is,
and you know, and I don't worship Donald Trump. He's
better than what we could have ended up with. And
I'm gonna go ahead and say probably a lot better. However,
you know, when he screws up. I mentioned it. But

(01:53:38):
regardless of how any of us feel about Trump, Trump's
MAGA movement is huge, and Trump was elected because of
his stances on many things. People were elected because they

(01:54:02):
signed on to Trump's agenda. Why on earth with almost
one hundred and forty called one hundred and thirty seven.
I don't care Texas House reps. Of course that includes Democrats,
so you know, I don't have numbers exact. Why on
earth would the Republicans on the wrong side go against

(01:54:30):
what MAGA wants because you're probably going to get primary
not going to get re elected.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Well, they think now that they're there that they don't
need him. The problem is that I like him because
he is a businessman first. And I forget who said it,
but like twenty years ago, somebody said, one of these
days a business man is going to be the president

(01:55:02):
and it's going to be a much better time. What
I don't get is the House and the Senate for
the federal stuff, they don't even stand up. Had we
just had a vote in the House and one of
the Republicans voted president, that's not what the people in

(01:55:24):
his congressional district see that he gets paid for and
elected for. Two of them voted no and two didn't
show up. I'm sorry, but that's a pretty important deal
and the country wants this stuff done and right now.

(01:55:46):
Elon Musk said the other day he's kind of disappointed
that the bill doesn't have more cuts, and he's disappointed
that Congress hasn't made the Doge cuts law. The corruption
they found, so I don't know. I don't think we
can trust any of them, but we're going to try
to keep them honest. And anytime you guys have got

(01:56:08):
something you want to talk about in the way of politics,
let me know and we'll make sure it's a part
of our show. Because we're going to put out the truth.
We might give opinions. People might not always agree, we
might not always agree with each other, and that's okay. No,
that makes for interesting radio in life.

Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Well, you know, I keep saying that twenty twenty to
twenty twenty four, what's proof that we don't even need
a government?

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
No, that's true. And you know, if he would have
got elected in twenty twenty, like he should have, and
I know he won, I don't think it would be
as good as it is now because he had he
learned a good lesson from the first term, and he
learned a really good lesson watching that term of And

(01:57:01):
now a lot of things are happening. I'm anxious to
see what comes up about the auto pen, how much
of that is legal, and somebody's got to stop these
judges from breaking the constitution. They don't have the right.
I saw it presented by a pretty smart judge the
other day, and the Constitution's very clear. These guys do

(01:57:22):
not have the right to stop the president from running
the country. So I'm hoping things get better.

Speaker 6 (01:57:31):
Well, I saw that Latisha James has been in died
and I think several judges are in big trouble. So
you know, I also believe that if we take down
these judges, activist judges, one by one, we may have
a chance. I doubt it, but it's in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
Well, they're violating the constitution. The guys showed it clearly
the other day. They don't have the right to do
with they're doing. And I'm trying to figure out why
anybody's paying attention to it if they're violating the constitution,
Bill anything before we wrap it up.

Speaker 8 (01:58:12):
Yeah, yeah, you don't understand corruption talk because you're not
a Democrat, you're not a politician.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Yeah, that's that's true. They disgust me even trying to
think about them, But we're going to talk about them
whenever you guys want. And they are part of healthcare
because when you're stressed and anxious, it starts wearing on
your system and the body gets sick. So all right, guys, well,

(01:58:41):
thank you, Steve, Suzy and Bill. I know the audience
loves all you guys as much as I do, and
I know for a fact that they love the music
and my jokes Steve said they were bad jokes, can
you imagine. Oh, anyway, find a song for the Bay

(01:59:02):
Area Bomberble since he came from that part of the woods,
and we'll have one for him next week anyway. And Bill,
I'll try to find out what that Brahms was because
I was very disappointed it didn't come through very loud,
and yeah, that'd be good. But I'll find that for
you anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for

(01:59:25):
being here. We're so grateful to have you. And if
you listen to us on Rumble, this is the only
one we're live on, but it does go out to
a lot of other things. Tomorrow, our producer, Steve sends
me a link in the morning and then I uploaded
and we'll get it out everywhere else. So this week

(01:59:49):
has been amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:59:50):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
We added a country that I never heard of Malawi
or Malowi. I don't know how you say it. It's
in Africa, what is it? Maloey malally? Okay, I know
it was m a Lwi and I had never heard
of it. But it's there and we had listeners, so hello,

(02:00:14):
thank you. Well we added the Netherlands, the Netherlands and
that this week, so that was pretty cool. Now we're grateful.
So may God bless you all with health and happiness,
keep your lives peaceful, free and safe. And it is
that time, ladies and gentlemen, for good Scotch, good cigars,

(02:00:39):
and good.

Speaker 6 (02:00:40):
Night, good night all you're not everyone, God bless.

Speaker 7 (02:00:47):
Seems the love I've known has always been the most
destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so old
before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the taste

(02:01:07):
of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
I teased at light as if it were a.

Speaker 7 (02:01:15):
Foolish game, the way that emon breeze may tease a
candle flame.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
The thousand dreams I dreamed.

Speaker 7 (02:01:25):
The splendid things I planned. I always built to last
on weekend, shifting sand, I lived by night and shunned
the naked light of day, and only now I see
how the years ran away yesterday when I was young,

(02:01:49):
So nay happy songs