Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 6-18-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Steve

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Speaker 3 (01:35):
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Speaker 4 (01:52):
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And I found my mind in a brown paper peg.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Butin I tripped on a.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Cloud and fill eight miles high high, I told mine
man on a jagged sky, I just dropped in to
see what condition my condition was in.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
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Speaker 2 (02:39):
Welcome everybody to doctor Crips Natural Health Hours.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
It is June eighteenth. I got it right this week.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Uh the doc has been a little bit bitten by
a stomach bug in the last few days, so I
know what it's like when people call up and say
I got this or that wrong. We are all here
on Zoom and we've got Susie Bill, our producer, hiding
somewhere back there in the background.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
And myself. Tonight we're going to touch on.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Edema. You see a lot of people it was swollen
ankles and feet, and we're going to go into that.
But before that, let's have Susie and Bill say hello
if they'd like to do that.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Susie.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
Hello, everyone, thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Here we go, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So, what I'd noticed with a lot of people, they
would get swelling of the ankles and feet, and it
can be several things, but ninety percent of the time
it's a drenals and a drenals sit on top of
the kidneys and they tell the kidneys to get rid

(03:57):
of fluid. And the renals are also involved in fight
or flight.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
The medulla on the adrenals is involved with epinephrine and nonephrine,
so that it's fight or flight. And the adrenals use
a lot of natural vitamin C and so they can
get run down and fatigued.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
Really really fast.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
And so if they're not working right, or even if
there's a kidney problem to go with them, you may
not get rid of the fluid, and that could be
a bad thing. And what's really sad a lot of
people are buying these socks and putting them on, trying
to compress their ankles to push that fluid back up. Well,

(04:50):
that's that's not even covering up, that's not even taking
out the check engine light. Because what's happening our fluid,
the the heart pumps our blood throughout the body and
it comes back by way of limp node system and
the veins, and that's usually by muscle contraction. That's how

(05:15):
we get the blood back to the lungs.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
I mean back to the heart.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
The heart pumps it through the lungs, gets it oxygenated,
gets rid of the sealed two when we exhale. It's
a pretty good system. But most of the time, if
I see ankles and feet that are swollen and the
fancy word everybody uses as aedema, I'll ask them to

(05:44):
tell me if there's anything else going on. And usually
they're fatigued, they've got hair loss, and they notice their
dizzy when they stand up. Sometimes, well, that's all adrenals also.
And the adrenals, like I said, they sit on top

(06:05):
one adrenal glands that's on top of one kidney on
both sides, and the adrenals talk to the hypothalamus and
the pituitary, and they talk to the thyroid and they
talk to testes and men and ovaries and women so
they can do the hormone stuff. And the adrenals are

(06:29):
involved in the adrenal cortex. That's where we get things
like cartisol and the cardicole steroids, and they're used in
a lot of functions, and all that stuff is made
from cholesterol. So a lot of times when people have
a problem, they're on a cholesterol med and it's a

(06:51):
man made problem. So going out and buying them socks
and all that stuff isn't doing you any good. You're
just not correct in anything. And then you always have
to look too. The body is very complicated, and there's
a lot of times it's a simple problem. Like I said,

(07:15):
it might be adrenals. But if it's a dreamals, why
where nutrients not getting absorbed? Is digestion messed up? Are
we not feeding the natural vitamin C that adrenals need.
I'm convinced that many many patients that have been diagnosed

(07:35):
to it, the stress syndromes and the post traumatic traumatic
dress syndromes, and people that have been in war and
stressful jobs are after a shooting or something terrible, the
adrenals were just wore out. They were fight or fight,

(08:01):
fight or fight, fight or flight, and pretty soon they
can't take it no more. And because they're involved in
fight or flight and cartical steroids and making things that
the body needs and communicating with the thyroid and the
rest of the glands that communicate, like the hypothalmus and

(08:21):
the pituitary, they're shot. And so what they do with
the PTSD instead of addressing that where you probably need
some doctor bill head doctor kind of stuff. And we
need to go back in and address the adrenals and

(08:42):
the thyroid and the pituitary and the hypothalamus and the
testes are over east, depending on man or woman, and
we need to find out what's going on. What other
symptoms are you. Are you dealing with stress a lot?
Did you just come back from a tour and I
are you going through a divorce? Are you did you

(09:05):
recently lose a loved one. There's a lot of things
that will turn that and wear you out.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
And then your diet.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
If you don't put good natural vitamin C in your diet,
the adrenals are going to be in trouble no matter
what's going on. They use like ninety percent of the
natural vitamin C that's in your body. They need it badly.
So I'll tell people, get yourself some natural orange juice

(09:36):
that has not been pasteurized, Find good organic, natural fruits.
A lot of things you can do that will help
keep those adrenals in top shape. And then one of
the other things people will tell you because the adrenal
cortex is involved with cartisol and the particle steroids. Cartisol

(10:00):
should be very low in the morning and then it's
higher at night so we can go to sleep. But
if cardisol is high in the morning, we're all screwed up.
And that's another another sign. So hair loss, stress, dizziness,

(10:22):
swollen ankles and feet, and then it could be the digestion.
There are times when the heart is having a problem.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
It could be a valve problem. It could be.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
That, like we've talked before, sometimes the arteries look like
raw ground beef on the inside. And so what the
body does. It brings in the patching crew and it
uses cholesterol or anything it can find to patch places
so we don't have a blowout. Well, it's hoping you

(10:59):
will fix the problem before the patches become so thick.
You don't have good circulation, so we have to address that.
So it's very important, and this is why I like
to do four or five things on every new patient,
depending on what they're telling me about, so that we

(11:21):
address everything at once and then see what.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Your body tells us.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
But if you've got fluid building up. Almost ninety percent
of my experience has been adrenals, dizziness, adrenals, sometimes an
inner ear infection, sometimes both. Sometimes the heart needs a

(11:47):
little help. Sometimes we need to oxygenate the tissue and
the blood and cardioplus. It's really good for that. It
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helps oxygenate our blood.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
And you got to remember, if you've got.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
A long problem, if there's allergies bothering you, maybe you're
not oxygenating the blood as good as you should.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
When the heart bumps it through.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
There a lot of things going on, but I always
like to start with the adrenals. Make sure the heart's healthy,
make sure the kidneys are healthy. And that's why I
like diaplex, because if digestion is screwed up, you can
eat as good as you want, and maybe we're not
getting the nutrients where they need to go. And diaplex

(12:38):
has got things for the kidneys, the bladder, the liver,
the gall bladder, the pancreas, the pituitary. It's got digestive enzyme,
stomach acid, it's got quite a bit of stuff, and
so that way we know that at the start everything's

(12:59):
going to be getting correct and then if we're eating good,
we should be able to feed the adrenals and the
rest of your body. And unless you're a vegan or
a vegetarian who isn't getting any good fats in their
diet to get the good cholesterol that you need, then

(13:23):
we need to maybe give you something to help deal
with that. But it's very important because the body's designed
to produce eighty percent of the cholesterol we need for
the for the adrenals and the thyroid and everybody to
make hormones and to make the steroids that the adrenal

(13:44):
has to make in the adrenal cortex.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
But without those cholesterol we're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
We can't do that because the body expects us well,
I guess when God made the body, expect you to
eat twenty percent.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
To get your cholesterol that way.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And many, many times people are on a cholesterol med
and that's the whole problem with why they've got swelling.
You take away the cholesterol med they're fine. Sometimes they'll
put them on a blood pressure medicine. It slows the
heart down. The heart's of muscle. That blood pressure medicine

(14:32):
will damage all the muscle in the body and nothing
works right. The heart won't pump as good as it should,
and that can cause the congestion. So these are all
things that I like to look at. But I've seen
fabulous successes when they told me they had swollen ankles

(14:55):
or feet, and you know, usually a lot of things
going on a lot. Sometimes people are really stressed. I'm sure, Billy,
you've talked to many with a lot of stress, and
especially the PTSD crowd, and a lot of that.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
I think we could help them a lot with good
consoling and.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Balance those hormones back out and make sure that the
adrenals and the thyroid, the pituitary, the hypothalmus testes or
ovaries are all communicating and working. And then make sure
the body's got cholesterol because cholesterol is very important. And

(15:36):
so you put all this stuff together. And that's why
I say you're always troubleshooting, because one thing may not
be the problem may be several, and then you may
treat one thing and it acts like you hit a
miracle button. So hard to say. Some of the products
that I'll use will be things like vascular care to

(16:04):
make sure that there's good healthy veins, arteries, capillaries, all
that stuff, cardioplus to make sure the oxygen oxygenating the
blood and making sure that the heart is healthy and
all the other tissue is healthy. Adrenomine for adrenals AC carbamide,

(16:27):
This is a really good one. Sometimes the tissue is
not doing the osmosis of letting fluid get back to
the lymph nodes in the venus, and so it can't
get back to the heart, and ac carbamide is one
of those things that really helps with that interstitial fluid

(16:50):
and help get rid of it. And a lot of
fluid goes back to the limph noodes and from there
it needs to be routed to the blood system and
a lot of a lot of the things that lympnodes
actually do because there's always leak each in the body,

(17:12):
and then the limnodes can pull that fluid out of
the tissue and get it back to the blood.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
So there's all these things kind of tie together.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
But drenomen ashvia Ganda great adrenal complex great again.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Natural vitamin C.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I like muplex because it's got the most natural vitamin
C of any standard process product and it addresses the
liver and the spleen and all those things. It's got
all the vitamins and minerals, so it does a lot
of good. But there's a lot of a lot of

(17:54):
good things that we can do quickly and see what
your body says and get rid of that swelling. It's
very difficult sometimes because sometimes these things came on fast
and sometimes it's been building for a long time, and

(18:14):
feedback's very important. And a lot of times they want
to put you on a water pill, they call them,
and all.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
That does is tell us nothing.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It just forces the fluid from your body, and we
don't know what's wrong. But the adrenals talk to the kidneys,
they sit on top of them and they're saying, hey, guys,
time to get rid of some fluid.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
And maybe the kidneys aren't working so well.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
And that's again why I like diaplects as a starter,
because it's going to help with kidneys and gallbladder and
digestion and helping get that vitamin C to the adrenals.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
So Sissy anything, Well, it sounds like you're right, my
life history into a book. Yeah, you know, I've I've
never really seen the swollen ankles. I don't know, maybe
about seven or eight years ago. I remember I was

(19:17):
at you know, Republican convention in Dallas, and I was
dealing with it, but I was walking, you know, hill's
half acre, but still a normal, healthy person should be
able to walk, you know, all over convention centergrounds and whatnot.

(19:38):
I think that that was just before I met you.
But you know, after that, I never had that problem.
You know, I do see people when I'm out and
about and their ankle and mostly women. Now there is men,
but it seems like mostly what I see is women,

(20:00):
and it makes me so sad. Their ankles and lower
legs are so swollen, and I think to myself, how
easy it is to to treat that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, it's it's usually just a matter of troubleshooting. And
some patients are uh quicker to bounce back, some some not.
Some some go to get those socks, some go to
emergency rooms. Everything's different. But I had a lot of
them come to me after they went other places and

(20:40):
said nothing's working.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
They keep giving me a water pill. Well that isn't
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's like the pool keeps overflowing, so you go out
and drain it a little bit every day that ain't working,
that ain't fixing nothing right.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
So Bill, how about you.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Just I'll listen to you talk about these stags and
once again how interrelated all of these various parts of
us are, and how addressing just one to be a
good start. But we need to we need to really

(21:20):
pay attention to a much broader spectrumen to to really
treat the whole body rather than just a part of it.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, yeah, I'm sure you saw many people that could
have been diagnosed, and maybe we're diagnosed with PTSD, and
a lot of times if I can just get to
them and start listening to them, they'll tell me what's wrong,
and we balance some hormones and get the adrenals back
to healthy.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
They're fine.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Can you imagine being, say, back in Vietnam in the jungles,
constant fear, constant poor food, poor drink, poor sleep. You're
wearing out the adrenal glands along with the rest of
the body. But the adrenal glands are the ones that

(22:12):
would give you that diagnosis, and rightly so, because they're
crying out I need help.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
So question, why does Western medicine, establishment medicine refuse to
acknowledge a dreamal fatigue.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, number one, they don't have a blood test for it,
if you ever look at your blood work. They don't
have anything for the adrenals.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
They do have for the thyroid.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And there's no money to be made if you do
what I do.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
They're not going to.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Live and be poor. Doctors like doctors like me, They're
gonna get wealthy, even if it kills you. They're they're
going to make their money. And a lot of these things,
Like I said, Uh, I would love to be in
charge of them poor guys at the VA who are
being diagnosed with PTSD because a lot of it is

(23:15):
going to be just taking care of the hormones and
the the adrenals. And again they're gonna need somebody like
the good head doctor here, and he's probably talked to
many of them to help them deal with all this
while we're getting them well, because a lot of that
is you know, psychological as well as physical, and that stress.

(23:41):
Stress is a killer. Of course, I'm talking to Susie.
She spells stress just.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
For fun in all caps.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
So, Bill, how many how many people did you talk
to that you would have said, we're a candidate for
being diagnosed with PTSD.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Well, you know, they keep keep redefining that and broadening
that spectrum and uh and as you say, you know,
what what what might be be something traumatically stressful one
person is not for another. So it's very hard to

(24:26):
have a consistent diagnosis for that. And I think all
too often, uh, and not only not only psychologically, but
in terms of other medicine to a lot of diagnoses
are made way too early. And it has to do
with has to do with keeping up with paperwork and

(24:47):
all that kind of business. And I think that that, uh,
the onus that has put on on healthcare people uh
to adhere to insurance come protocols and forms and diagnosic
numbers is uh really has damaged healthcare in this country.

(25:11):
And a lot of folks get wound up getting diagnosed
with things that they don't have. But the problem with
that is once those diagnoses are given, they basically stay
with you for life, whether they're accurate or not.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
And they wear it like a plaque.

Speaker 8 (25:30):
Well it's not. It's not only so much that they
wear it like a plaque, but that that insurance got
me share information like that. That kind of stuff goes
around and all of a sudden. People are just pre diagnosed.
If they change physicians or they change healthcare practitioners, you know,

(25:53):
they've got a history that follows them around, and a
lot of times it's just not it's not accurate, and
a lot of times it's just not fair. Oh yeah,
to be able to take somebody who walks in your
office as a blank page and start from around zero,
there's not something that's encouraged a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, I had a few times, and it was very
embarrassingly difficult for me. Patients came to me from other
doctors that supposedly did what I do, and they came
in and showed me the products they were taking, and

(26:38):
it did not match with what they were telling me.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
I mean, they weren't.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Bad products, they were still good products, but it was
not addressing what I just heard them tell me. So
I would ask them, did you talk to the other
people and tell them the things you're telling me? And
most of them would tell you that nobody, you know,
they kind of run you through like cattle. Nobody has

(27:04):
time to listen. So that that was always hard for
me to have to say, what you're telling me and
what you've brought me that you're.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Taking they don't. They don't go together.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now, you're taking good products and they're good to take
if you want to take them, but they're not addressing
what you just told me. And usually they were a
little bit upset, but they they like one lady start
crying because she said, I was the first person that listened.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
But once you listen, they make you look smart.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Sometimes you run into trouble because they've got family members
who don't think you need to be treating them. But
they they came there with them because somebody referred them
and they wanted to come in. And usually they come
in and they're already angry and I haven't even talked
to the person that's with them.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
But it was funny.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I even would get other doctors and nurses and stuff
come to me, and that was always fun because they
got a great education, but they don't study this kind
of stuff, and so that that was always a pleasure
to help somebody in the medical field, especially because the
MD's and the nurses their organizations would not like them

(28:28):
coming to me. I don't think that would go over
too well, but it was always fun. But a lot
of these things, and you said it, well, Bill, they
get diagnosed too quick and incorrectly, and nobody listened to them.
And I've said it so many times, but it's so true.

(28:53):
If you listen to them and they really tell you
what's going on, they'll make you look very small. Sometimes
people forget to tell you what they're on, what they're doing,
when the symptoms started, what was going on. But when
you finally get all that put together, they could sure

(29:14):
make you look smart and you can help them a lot.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
And there's nothing better than having.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
A patient tell you, Wow, why didn't somebody do this
for me a year ago?

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I tell them that it wasn't their field. You went
to a place that didn't understand what you were talking
about because it's not part of their field to do
what I'm doing. So it was always interesting. All right, guys,
break Tom. This is doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours. Please

(29:51):
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Speaker 6 (34:20):
All right, we are back.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Welcome back to Doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hours. I am
joined by Susie Bill and our producer Steve hiding somewhere
in the background, and we just finished the first part
of the show talking about swollen feet, ankles, edema and

(34:41):
all how things interconnect and tie together, and how it's
really important for your doctor to sit down and listen
good and really important for you to tell them everything.
Any products you're taking over the counter, internet TV commercial
you saw, pharmaceutical products, anything at all that you're doing,

(35:07):
any special things that you're eating, any stress, death in
the family, divorce, anything, new job, anything that's going on
so that you can let your doctor him or her
help you. Sissy, anything on adrenals and what we talked
about the beginning of the show.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
I'm sorry, no, I just that that's how I identify
you know, it's a I want to add, maybe a
wrong to say this, but it's it's a rewarding process,
but it's not overnight.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, and again, and everybody is a little different. You're
very good at giving feedback, which helps an awful lot.
The only problem you've ever had is you don't listen
to your own feedback. But you're real good.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
At giving it, which has always made me.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Not have to work so hard because you helped a
great deal that was very good at that too.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
Well, I argue with myself, I'm too hard headed for
my own good.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
You think.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Bill anything before we jump into anything else, or that.
I know you guys are dying for some jokes.

Speaker 8 (36:42):
No, we die, we die after the jokes. So, yeah,
there's a couple of things that you raised an interesting
problem and as you're trunking, I'm trying to short it
out before I get into it a lot. But you know,
you talk about giving giving a medical person househip all

(37:10):
the proper information. First of all, you know when you
when you call to make an appointment with somebody, they
I've had one years ago. One uh nurse receptor whoeverrances
the phone asked me why I was coming in and
what seemed to be the symptoms, and this person said, well,

(37:37):
we can refer you to somebody who deals with that,
but that's not really our specialty. Doctors' offices don't do that.
They just make an appointment, and a lot of times
you you wind up seeing a person who might be
highly qualified in some other area, but not especially in
the one that you're needing help with. But you don't

(38:00):
find that out until it's too late. And in terms
of sharing a lot of information about symptomology and how
you're feeling and what's going on, doctors don't have time
for that. And it's it's a it's a problem because
that's why so many people are on I think are
on inappropriate medications or in other case getting proper follow up.

(38:23):
It's not that they're unwilling to share information. It's that
they're kind of waiting for the specialists, for the expert
to ask questions that they never ask and you know,
usually they seem to run with almost superficial symptomology. These
are the major things that I'm feeling. It doesn't have

(38:44):
anything to do with the fact that you're law more broke,
that your cousin died or your dog died. They don't
care about that because they're not trained to understand that
these kinds of things affect are certainly our mental health,
but certainly are physical health too. And as I said before,
you can't. You can't separate mental health and physical health.

(39:09):
PEO pretend to want to do that, you know, certainly
as a therapist, I had people come in who were
looking for some sort of guidance with emotional mental problems, challenges, whatever.
But there's always more and you can't do that in

(39:30):
fifteen minutes. To make a proper diagnosis with some folks
that came in would take sometimes weeks because the flow,
the EBB and flow of centromology is so gradual that
if you base that on an hour interview, you're probably
going to be wrong. There are going to be times

(39:51):
when you're right, but some of this kind of centromology
is and such a gradual both to it that unless
you're willing to spend sometimes weeks with somebody working with him,
that you're going to be able to really address what

(40:12):
their issues are, because that's the first opportunity you have
to really experience what maybe they don't have the vocabulary
to tell you. All right, it's a very difficult spot.
And I and I think that you know a lot
of times when when folks go to go to physicians,
they figure it's you know, one stop shopping, and no,

(40:32):
that's not true if you go to specialists. Even I
was talking to a shower last week that I've known
for a while who's had some had some issues, and
he said he's he's been to three cardiologists and fire
them all because they keep telling them of different things.
We kind of have the expectation that training is uniform

(40:56):
and it isn't what what one doctor will tell you
another doctor or will not. He'll tell you something different.
Where does that leave us? Where are we supposed to
go with that? We don't know. I can't even personally
experienced that with chiropractic, that one. And this is many
many years ago, treating for a back issue, and the

(41:19):
back issue was affecting my walk, my knees, my gait
and it turned out that it was entirely something else.
The treatments were effective. I wound up going to somebody
else took care of the problem in about a month.
So it's there's you know, we're expecting consistency and treatment
and that's it ain't happening. I don't know what the

(41:42):
answer to that is. I mean, because every every physician,
every position, every chiropractor, or every get us is they
all have their own take on their field. That's just
human nature, right, But how do we find the right
match this hit or miss? That's my rip on that.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up because when I
went into practice, I didn't like hearing about these people
that thought they were experts or want to be a specialist,
because I felt like that wasn't fair to patients. And
I decided I was going to specialize in everything.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
So when a chiropractic patient came.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
To me and they'd been to others, and boy I
got a lot of them. They said, well the other
place they did five minutes of stuff and I was gone.
I said, yeah, that's the management system they teach them,
that run you through like cattle to make more money.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
I said, I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I'm going to check everything from head to toe every visit,
no matter what you tell me, Because a lot of
times I would adjust somebody and they would say, oh,
I forgot to tell you that that was bothering me,
And I said, well, I understand. Bill said his knees
are hurting. Well, there's an it band on the outside
here that's tiered in a piece of barbed wire, and

(43:08):
it's pulling on the knee because your little back has
got a rotation of the pelvis and you're compressing those
nerve roots and the bodies trying to tell us. So
I would check everything every time, feet, ankles, all the
way to the cervical spine. Sometimes I worked on.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
The sinuses and TMJ joints.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
But I checked everything every time, and that eliminated people
having to go somewhere else. And my first visit, if
it was chiropractic, they were in my office an hour,
but half of that time with my therapists and half
of it with me while I figured out what was going.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
On and what to tell the therapists.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
To work on.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
If they came in for nutritional.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Stuff, nutritional console general problems. I did two hour consults
and we covered everything. Now I didn't make a lot
of money, but my attitude was, you see these people
the rest of our lives, and you make a little money,
and they don't have to pay a fortune every visit

(44:18):
because a lot of offices are thinking how much money
they can make and they might not ever see you again.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
And like you said, Bill, ten or fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And they're done. And what prescription do I writer or
what medicine do I give them? Or do I send
them to a physical therapy? Some patients that I saw
were going to physical therapy, And that's a great thing.
Once we fix the problem, and you have to fix
it internally. Chiropractic is not just physical adjusting and manipulating.

(44:52):
You have to understand what to give for the inside
so the disc can heal, so the nerves can heal,
so the facet joints are good, so that from head
to toe everything is working together and healthy. A lot
of people would say, well, they didn't adjust me like
you did, and they.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
Didn't give me anything. Well, we're going to take care
of that.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
And like I said, and a lot of times people say, well,
but he said he was a specialist yeah. He was
a specialist, all right, specialists at taking your money in
a sharp amount of time. I would gladly spend two
hours doing a nutritional consult and we would test everything.
We covered milk and sugars and sea salt and goat

(45:44):
milk and cow milk, and all the vitamins that are taken,
and all the over the counter stuff they've bought, and
we covered it all. The most I ever had was
the lady walked in with about thirty something bottles in
a bag, and most of it was just a waste
of her money. And so I would go through it

(46:07):
with them, look at ingredients. And there was times where
I might not even have known what they were taking.
I never seen this, but they saw it on the
internet or watched the commercial or something, and I would
tell them, here's the section I wouldn't give to you
if they paid me money. There's a couple of things

(46:28):
you've got here, not too bad maybe if you want
to finish them, but you have to make your own decision.
I didn't give those things to you. I'm not going
to tell you what to do with them. And most,
i'd say nine out of ten times people walked over
and dumped all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
Into trash can. They weren't gonna taken no more so,
but it's very important.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Like you said, Bill, too many people in and out,
and what we learned a long time ago, there's these
companies out there that each sees doctors, the management system,
and the patient should not be in your office more
than about fifteen minutes, so you could see a lot
of patients. I never could see that many patients in

(47:13):
a day because I took my time and I tried
to do it like I was the patient. And like
I said, they made me look smart many times. Many
times they and Susie's done this. Susie's told me exactly
what was wrong, but she never heard a word she said.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
And that's what was happening to them.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
They were telling they were opening their heart and soul,
but nobody ever.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Heard the words they were.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
The doctors were probably thinking, I'm playing golf on Wednesday,
and I can put them on this medication and maybe
they'll come back and I might see them another visit.

Speaker 6 (47:53):
And too many things going on, and the patient really.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Needs to be important. But when you came into my
mind office, it was different, and I had many a
patients tell me, I cannot believe that you checked all that.
I didn't even tell you about that. And I said,
that's why I do it, because people forget, they remember
the most current thing that's bothering them and forget about

(48:18):
all that other stuff.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
And that other stuff ties together, all.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Right, Anything before we go to and I know you're
dying for the jokes guys, Anything before we go to
the jokes city.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
Yeah, you know, I was that. I was that woman
that an example of that woman that came in with
a thirty bottle. But she was a slacker. Let me
tell you. I had a whole area of my kitchen
counter that was designated to bottles. And you know, I

(48:54):
get online, I would research. I didn't. It was a
given that I had quit trusting doctors. And I think
I had a lack of trust for a long long time.
And I kind of have pinpointed it back to when
my kids were small and with the vaccines and antibiotics,

(49:15):
and I just had an issue with that and and hearing, well,
this is viral. There's nothing we can do about a virus,
and you just gotta, you know, just just gotta let
it run its course. And so you know, you know,
trying to be you know, a good wife and and
and being you know, trying to save money. And you

(49:36):
know I was shopping mostly at Swanson. Well, oh my gosh,
you can go to your search engine. You can decide
what you have. You go to Swanson, do a search
like okay, all right, I'll get that. And uh, you know, frankly,

(49:56):
it wasn't hard to convince me to tried the standard
process and the many are products because I was spending
more money even at that discount site for all that
fractionated and artificial junk than I would have over standard process.

(50:19):
And I'll say the only and I threw away all
of it after I met you and we started talking
and figuring out things, and you know, it started with hormones,
and you know, I was even buying the wild Dam
or you know whatever. I mean. I kind of sort

(50:40):
of had a clue, but the product was wrong, and
I kind of think it's like putting, you know, gasoline
in a diesel engine. I was just I had the
wrong product. And about the only thing I kept and
I still want to keep on hand is olive leaf extract.

(51:03):
But you know, that was my journey, and I don't
mind it admitting it that you know, I dumped all
that stuff in the trash can too.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, and we have all of leaf extract in a
few products, so it's it's a good thing if you
got one.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
You like.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
The problem you ran into and a lot of people
run into is they had the right name, like wild Yem,
but it was junk if we can afford, so you
know they that that was that was the big thing.
They they knew the names, but they were buying junk
bill anything. Nope, nope, all right, Well, we got a

(51:48):
couple of jokes here, and I know you guys are dying,
and I hate to leave you hanging, says he.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
Now this one made me think. A Huntley.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Guy goes in to the insurance it's office and he's
gonna buy some life insurance and they're going through all
these questions, where do you work, what do you do?
What kind of hobbies do you have? And he comes
down to this one question and.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
He says, do you do anything dangerous?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
He said, there's been a few times where I disagreed
with my wife. I like that, all right. Question. If
a TV weatherman has cataracts, will all of his forecasts

(52:40):
be partly cloudy.

Speaker 8 (52:44):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
If someone steals your identity and you killed him, did
you commit suicide? That was funny.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
I don't care what you guys. All right, And here's
the best one at all.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
This one's kind of a public service announcement too. This
is this is important. Just recently them scientists are so
called scientists got slapped for abusing I believe it was
beagle hounds. And and they're always abusing rats. I've always

(53:23):
said the most dangerous thing to rats heal to human
lab guys. Well, so now with all the stuff putting
them in the on the the pressure cooker, they've had
to reevaluate what they do. So they decided that the

(53:44):
scientists now are going to use politicians.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
In their lab test. And there was three reasons for that.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
One, there's a lot more politicians than there are rats.
Number two, there's some things rats just won't do. And
number three, you're not gonna get attached to the politician
like you might the rat. I like that. You know,

(54:19):
you brought up products and you thought you were buying
like wild yem and stuff.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
Medi Herb.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Is amazing. Doctor Dobbins always said, if you want to
buy something cheap and junk, and doesn't work.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
You can go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
And find it.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
They'll have the right name.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
But medi Herb and centered process, but especially medi Herb
because they're more on that herbal side is the best
of the best at finding the right product that is
the best. And they had a problem. They were buying
white peone from some Chinese company years ago, and white

(55:10):
peone is used a lot in women's health, especially with
menopause and all that stuff. Well, they would buy it
and they'd bring it into their lab do the quality
control on before they ever going to put it in
a product, and it never passed. And they test it

(55:31):
every time, they get another arder and they check it again,
and they had to keep sending stuff back.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
So finally they got with the company and said, your
stuff's not passing. Must what's going on. Well, it turned
out that.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
They were taking this natural white peone and bleaching it
so it would look better, and that's why it didn't work.
So naturally, medi Herb did not use them ever again.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
But it had the right name.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
They could have sold it all day long and women
would have been complaining that it didn't work, and they'd
have thought. And that's something I hear a lot too. Well.
I tried that product and it don't work. Who would
you get it from?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Where are the ingredients?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I saw a thing the other day where they were saying,
you need this vitamin. It'll restore your health, it'll give
you back your youth. So I went and looked at
the ingredients, and they had some pretty good ingredients down
there towards the bottom. But at the top they had
a scarbag acid for vitamin C, mixed to kafferalls for

(56:42):
vitamin E, calcium carbonate. They had beta carotene for vitamin A,
and that's because they knew people were looking for vitamin A,
and they knew people didn't understand the chemistry of any
of those vitamins. But there is beta carotene in vitamin A,

(57:05):
but it is not vitamin A. There is a scarbage acid,
but it's not vitamin C. There are mixed to coferalls
but it's not vitamin E. And calcium carbonate is a
natural it's limestone, but it's not what your body wants.
I could give you a tablet of calcium lactate and

(57:27):
you need to eat the size of the house and
calcium carbonate probably to get anything out of it. So
that's why so many people are trying so hard and
spending all their hard money and can't get better. And
that's why years ago people said, well, how did you

(57:48):
decide on Standard Process and Mediar and a couple other
companies that I use. And I said, well, in the beginning,
everybody sent their representative to my office when they heard
I did nutrition and basically I did family practice. I
did everything, and I would look at their products and

(58:15):
would I was learning back then, so a lot of
times I wasn't sure. But what I quickly found out
was people wouldn't get better on some of these products.
And then, thank god, I went to a seminar that
I did not want to go to because they had
told me that I didn't have to renew my education

(58:37):
credits until the next year. And then something happened. They
changed the rule.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
They notified all of us.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
This was like November that I had to have these
credits by December, and I went to some foreign country
called Dallas and took a seminar for the whole weekend
and it was Standard Process and medi Herb and doctor

(59:05):
geniome teaching about pediatrics and geriatrics and how to have
a baby the right way, and so many things I
learned in that weekend.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
But the light bulb went off.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I walked out of there that weekend and I knew
the products I needed or Mani Urban Standard Process, and
there's a couple other products I used from some companies
because we don't care a little different. But Madi Urban
Standard Process have not let me down. I've had difficulties

(59:43):
with loved ones and family members, and TV commercials and
internet stuff sometimes get in the way of helping people,
but the products have never let me down.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
All right, Well, it's just about break time.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Bill, you got a weekly topic up your sleeve?

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
Yep?

Speaker 8 (01:00:02):
A little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Uh, Susie or Billy the one you got anything before
we go.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
To break now, just kind of a reminder to listeners
that Standard process has been around for what one hundred years?
Pretty close?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, Doctor Lee came up with the first product, catile
in in nineteen twenty nine. Okay, so it's it's been
out there, and maybe we need to talk about cattle
in one of these nights.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
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Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
You know, the bass player in that piece is a
really good, really good musician. You know, when you play
play these songs, I'm always kind of listening to their
background musicians. I've talked about this before, but that guy
was good. That guy was good. And it's interesting to

(01:04:58):
me how occasionally, you know, I'll be thinking about something
to talk about on this segment, and you will, you
will kind of get into it, uh, pretty good before
I even get there. And of course you never talk
about what I'm going to talk about. That's always kind
of a deal. But we talked was thinking this week

(01:05:22):
about the difference between listening and hearing, and you know,
you talk a lot about listening tonight and how I think.
I think so many folks and I'm going to say
physicians are certainly prime in this group for lots of reasons.

(01:05:42):
But they appear to be listening, but they're really not
hearing what what a lot of folks tell them, and
what's what's the difference? I ran into this, uh frequently,
and it was always it was always kind of fascinating,
and sometimes it was amusing to check in with a

(01:06:04):
patient and the next visit to see what what they
recalled from the prior visit, because very frequently what I
thought was accomplished and in a session and in the
office was not what the patient took away at all,

(01:06:27):
something totally different. And the one that came to mind
was I had a fella come in who was having
some relational issues and he said that the latest blow
up was how he how he loaded the silverware in

(01:06:49):
a dishwasher, because that was his job. It was his
job was to clean up the kitchen after dinner, and
he loaded the dish that the dishwasher, and apparently he
always put the ties of the fork forks down, but
he was told that was wrong, that the times always

(01:07:10):
needed to be up, and that it was just stupid
to go ahead and do it the way he'd always
done it because it was wrong. And a way it
all went, and we talked about a lot of other
things in terms of his relationship and the difficulties that
arise at every relationship. And I saw him the next week.

(01:07:33):
I said, well, what did you how did the week
of What did you should to carry away? He said, well,
you know, we talked all about how to load a dishwasher. Well,
we talked about a lot of other stuff that I
thought was a lot more important. But that's what he
took away because that was the focus of And you know,
loading the dishwasher was not the problem. The problem was
a power struggle. But what he heard was his was

(01:08:00):
the right way to look the dishwasher. I didn't tell
him that was the right way, but that's what he
took away from it, was that it was the right
way because he didn't want to get stabbed by the
times in the fort. How how we how we listen
to what people tell us, whether it's it's casual conversation
or or something more serious, there's no constant. It depends

(01:08:29):
on where we are at that moment, what's gone on
that day, how we were brought up, the things that
we learned to listen to. It's it's a very you know,
we we we hear all kinds of noises. Now if
I if I'm outside, I can probably identify ten or
twelve different sounds that are going on all the time.

(01:08:52):
Well I listen to each one of them. Well, no,
I know they're there, but I don't. I don't really
focus on that. And I think in terms of of
healthcare our from a practitioners perspective, I have to do.
I have to work very hard to hear what's being said,

(01:09:15):
and even more so what's not being said. You've talked
about that tonight. Put a lot together by what people
tell you, but you put a lot together by what
they don't tell you. And it was in terms of
where we go with that information, it's it's never as

(01:09:36):
I say, it's never a constant. It changes, it changes
sometimes minute by minute. I had and I know I've
told this story before, but I've had had a couple
come in and they were contentious, to say the least,
and about halfway through they started yelling at each other

(01:10:02):
and she stood up and got moved over to him,
and he stood up, and I thought, you know, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna survive this. This is going
to get to be really ugly in here. But she
said something that was really profound and it has stayed
with me for quite a few years. But she said

(01:10:24):
to him, you know, you're so busy thinking about what
you're gonna say next, you don't hear a damn thing
that I say to you. And I think in terms
of diagnosing and doctors do this, we all, you know,
we all are given a certain amount of information and

(01:10:45):
we begin to exclude some possibility. That's sort of an
if then list we listen to people talk about about symptomology,
and we talk about her, they talk about their problems,
and as they they do that, we begin to focus
that information down into pretty specific diagnostic capabilities. Where do

(01:11:09):
we go with that? And the tough part for many people,
I think is to continue to listen, do not shut
off the information that is coming into them because they
think they've already got the answer now. And as I
said a little bit ago, you know, I just occasionally

(01:11:33):
you could make a good, accurate diagnosis fairly quickly or
whatever that means, in an hour or in a week
or sometimes fifteen minutes, you know what, But so many
issues take so much more time because information people are

(01:11:54):
people are are reticent to just of bumb it up
all the information if they figure that they don't they
give us too much. You're maybe, but I don't. He
doesn't need to know that. That's not important. And in fact,
it may be something that we need to know and
it may be very important, but to them it doesn't

(01:12:14):
seem so. And how do we how do we enable
I don't like that word, But how do we enable
a patient to understand that any information they give us
is important. If we don't need it, that's our decision.
But for them to feel to make the decision that

(01:12:37):
I don't need to know something you've had this, You've
talked about this many times. Is if they make a
decision to not give you certain kinds of information, that
handicaps your ability to really understand the issues, understand the
problems and listening and listening is is nothing that because

(01:13:01):
we all do it naturally, right, I mean, we all
hear stuff, right, so we're all listening. But how do
we listen? And this is something that's was never talked
about when I was in school. How do we how
do we how do we shut out the extraneous noise

(01:13:22):
and really pay attention to what we're being told? And
my experience fairly early on in my practice got to
be that I didn't need to respond to everything that
was said. If I if I responded to something I
was I was not listening. If I was thinking of

(01:13:43):
something I needed to say. That's why, you know, not
everybody in my business take notes. And I always would
tell my patience on the first I said, I write
stuff down because a lot of times you're talking about
things and there's something that I want to come back to,
and I'll make a note to come back to it.
I don't want to forget it, but I don't want
to interrupt the flow of where this conversation is going.

(01:14:06):
How do we how do we train ourselves keep our
mouths shut? How do we how do we how do
we learn to shut up and let let the person
tell us what you've said? Many times, you know, if
you give them enough chance, you have to tell you
everything you need to know. Most times folks don't let
us tell everything we want to tell They've already made

(01:14:29):
their mind up. And it does I'm not talking specifically healthcare,
but kind you know, it just turned terms of general
casual conversations. You know, part of our part of our
mind is listening, and part of our mind is thinking
about what we're going to say next. And how do
we shut down that second part therapeutically? How do we

(01:14:51):
shut down that second part of the of our mind
about what it is that we're going to say next
and really focus on what's being told to us? How
we learn? How do we learn to listen? How do
we teach ourselves listen, and of course the situation, how
the situation where in whish that conversation is occurring. It

(01:15:15):
has a great deal with how we how we listen
to it. I've we've all known people who are making
a point, but they take so long to get to
the point because they're telling a story. By the time

(01:15:35):
we get to the point, you think, my god, what
was this all about? It was just went on for error.
Why didn't you just get to it? Well, because that's
their style, and to to work hard at developing the patient,
the patients. Let your patient proceed in their own terminology.

(01:15:59):
I think it off rack. Yeah, we need to bring
it back on to focus a little bit. But you know,
I think for a lot of people to talk about
stuff that's bothering them physically or mentally, it's difficult. We
weren't raised to do that. We weren't raised to talk
about ourselves. So to begin to talk about things that

(01:16:21):
are troubling us to a stranger, to a doctor, to
a healthcare it ain't easy. And sometimes folks have to
ease into that and to find some comfort level for
them to be able to really feel that it's okay
to open up that they're not going to get dumped on,

(01:16:42):
they're not going to get judged, they're not going to
have be told that they're stupid or that silly or
could bother me with all insinformation. It takes long time
to develop a relationship between a patient and and a provider.
Whether it's it's with a lawyer or a banker or
your car mechanic, you know that it takes it takes

(01:17:06):
a little bit to build a relationship. And until that
relationship is built, that comfort level is not there that
it's going to allow a kind of a non judgmental
honesty to occur between between two people. And it doesn't
matter what kind of relationship it is, whether it's a
marriage or whatever it is, it's it takes time, and

(01:17:30):
it takes It takes an ability to feel that it's
okay to be vulnerable and that you're not going to
be thought of as being stupid or petty or vicious
or vindictive, but to be just accepted for somebody who's
talking about something that's important to them. So listening she

(01:17:55):
started out so much this evening talking about is it's
a two edged sword, because as I said, it's something
that we all do we all hear things? We all
listen to stuff, But how do we how do we
teach ourselves to I like to call it critical listening.

(01:18:19):
How do we let somebody tell us without interrupting and
allow them to go on, so that we really hear
beyond the noise, that we really hear what it is
that they're trying to tell us. That maybe they don't
quite have the courage or the vocabulary to do it.

(01:18:41):
And I think that's where a lot of physicians fail.
They might be great scientists, they may understand the chemistry,
they might understand the psychological theories perfectly well. But so
many times, it has seemed going to conferences I heard
this so much. They would they would jump right into

(01:19:01):
putting somebody into a into a theoretical slot so that
they could deal with them, and missed the point, and
missed the point. It's just critical listening is something that's
not taught, is not talked about. It's just that keep

(01:19:24):
getting When I was a student and we had to
do our internships, that there was a young girl who
was doing her internship in what we used to call
them nursing home. I don't know what they call it,
but that's what we called it back then. And she
said she had a woman come in who was really depressed,
and she saw her three times and she was still

(01:19:45):
depressed and she couldn't understand where she failed. Well, she
probably didn't even know her first name by the end
of the third session. How do we learn to just
be quiet and to listen? And again, it doesn't matter
what the relationship is. So often when people are talking

(01:20:09):
to us about things that are important to us, we just.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Need to be quiet.

Speaker 8 (01:20:14):
We don't need to respond. We don't need to encourage,
we don't need to argue, we don't need to discourage.
We just need to listen. But really listen, listen to
what they're saying. It's kind of a fuzzy art anyway,
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
Good stuff, And what things that helped me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Do some of the things you were talking about is
I work with some really good electricians in my ears,
and we all had a great education, a lot of experience.
I was always in maintenance or troubleshooting. I never cared
for construction or installation kind of stuff, but I, you know,

(01:21:04):
he had to do some of that. But when I
was a young kid fresh out of navy, electrical electronics school.
On my first ship, a guy named Doc Schultz. Him
and I would get a work arder. I was on
a repair ship and we'd get a work harder and

(01:21:25):
we'd go and I was ready to charge because I'm fresh.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Out of school and want to go do good. And
he would say, slow down.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
It's usually something simple and stupid that somebody missed, because
people try to make things too complicated. And I'll be
damned if that guy wasn't so right. And he trained
me so well that I could go on one of
them ships and they think I was so smart, and

(01:21:56):
it was just he just taught me to look for
basic stuff. And then working as electrician and plants and everything,
like when I worked for Budweiser, and I worked for
Cameron and Iron at some other companies, and to work
for the Light company, I learned when you went into
an area to work on a piece of equipment, say

(01:22:18):
that you got a call and something's down. And like
at Budweiser, I worked in the brewing side, so everything
was processes and some of the guys that did bad
would walk in and they would act like, I'm the electrician,
I'll figure this out, and I always Thanks to Doc
Schultz teaching me that way back, I had learned to

(01:22:42):
walk over to the operator who ran the equipment, the process,
whatever was going on, and ask him, what do you
think's going on? He didn't know what was broke, but
he knew the process, and he knew how to point
you to the right spot and make me look a
lot small harder because I didn't have to spend forever
trying to figure everything out. And so I used that

(01:23:04):
in practice, and I used to tell my patients, if
I'm talking and you think of something that's really important,
interrupt me.

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
Shut me up, because it's more important that I hear
from you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
And I go back to Doc Schultz on my USS
Piedmont when I was a young kid, and he taught
me that basis and I used it for the framework
and it helps so much, and I owed him a lot.
He did me good.

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
So is he anything on what all Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Was talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:23:41):
It's so it was a really really interesting subject. You know.
The I guess the thing that rang so true to
me was the difference between hearing and listening. And you know,

(01:24:01):
you can't apply that over nearly every single aspect of life.
And uh, you know, I think I listened to everyone
else except myself.

Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Yeah, you're good at that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Somebody taught me a long time ago, and I don't
remember who said this to me, but they said, too.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Many people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Are sitting there thinking what they're going to say when
they get a chance to talk, instead of listening and
learning because they want to impress or speak or the
spotlight on them.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
They can't help it, and so that that always. We
had a kid in medical.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
School with me that of course a lot of them
were younger than me because I went to medical school later.
But we called him Spotlight.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
He knew everything he knew.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I mean, he was smart, but he always asked questions
that he knew the answer to, so we called him spotlighter.
I think I nicknamed him. I mustn't nicknamed him that,
and it stuck. But good guy, nice guy, way smarter
than I mean, he probably didn't miss no questions on

(01:25:21):
any test.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
But he just he couldn't just eat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
He needed to tell everybody that he knew everything. So
it was always funny. But you're right, Bill, that's that's
a big thing. Is like you said, one patient, you're thinking,
this is what he should have took away, that's what
you took away from new session. And the next week
he comes in and he's thinking, he taught me how

(01:25:47):
to do the dishwasher, and that that's the way people
look at things. I remember somebody that was they were
a pastor, uh couple, pastor and his wife at a church.
And I didn't say this, and I wasn't thinking it,

(01:26:08):
but we were just talking about different things. And he said,
please don't tell us it's in her head. And I said,
first off, that's not what.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
But I said, I kind of find that funny for
a man who works in a church as a pastor
not to have faith and believe in things that maybe
aren't right there where you can reach out and touch them.
But I said, that's not what I was thinking. I
did not think that it was in her head. I
knew it's problems so pretty interesting. But listening is a

(01:26:46):
big thing. And I had people tell me that worked
with me that interrupting was wrong. But I felt like
if they were sitting there and something popped in their
head that was important interrupted me. Go ahead, You're more
important at this moment. I need to hear from you,

(01:27:09):
and especially in my field, like yours, Bill, and even
Susie with working in their business and Steve and his
It's important that we get feedback from people. It's important
that they help us figure out whatever's going on, whatever
we need to do. And if you come in, like

(01:27:31):
I said, some of the electricians I worked with that
weren't as good would walk in and they didn't even
talk to the operators running the equipment or this stuff
the process. But I always did, and those guys appreciated that,
and we worked together well because they knew he might
not know that the limit switch is screwed up on

(01:27:54):
that valve that puts fear into the into the tank,
but he knew there was a problem here because it
didn't do what it should have done.

Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
And I let him help me all they wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
We got to be great friends with all the operators,
and they made us look a lot smarter.

Speaker 8 (01:28:15):
So I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Can't imagine you Bill, who said you were in there
and they almost got into like a fight. That would
be very uncomfortable. Yeah, I'd ask him, do you mind
if I light a cigar and bought some Scots funny stuff? Yeah,
that that could get kind of hairy, and it's funny

(01:28:42):
men and women speak different languages.

Speaker 6 (01:28:45):
I don't care what anybody says.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Most of us men are pretty simple, pretty basic, and
women nobody could figure out. Nobody knows.

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
I saw a John Wayne move where he had adopted this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Indian boy when he was little because the parents had
gotten killed, and he raised him, and the boy had
ran and he's a grown man now, and they had
ran into this group of ex Confederate soldiers, and the
boy and this lady they start being attracted to each other.

(01:29:26):
And he was telling John Wayne, he said, you taught
me all that, he said, taught you all that? He said,
I taught you how to survive the winter and deal
with men and hunt and fish, But nobody knows about women.

Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
Good stuff. All right, Well, Susie, you got a recipe up.

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
Your sleeve, yep, I should do all right.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
Well, let's go to break.

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Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to doctor Chripper's
Natural Health Hours. It is June eighteenth, and we've got
Susie Bill our producer Steve hiding in the background, and
I'm here with you and we're getting ready to go
to SUSY's recipes in just a moment. But this is
the time in the show, being the nice guy that

(01:33:08):
I am, that I try to help her with the
company name because she's usually forgotten by now. So Susy,
I know for sure that the name of the company
is Rooftops and Drainage Instruction.

Speaker 7 (01:33:24):
That's pretty funny, uh close, But no, cigar, It's renovation
and design custom homes. We do remodel and new construction,
kind of specialize in rural properties rants properties. And we're
located in the Texas hill Country and you can go

(01:33:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
All right, take it away, put us in your kitchen, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:34:05):
So this is a molly pie. It's kind of unlike
a traditional well it's a taco pie. So it's there's
also taco pies, Tobalay pies whatever you want call them.
They have like a massa or a corn meal toping.

(01:34:27):
And this doesn't you know, this is a little easier
on the waist. They call it carnivore. But one of
the themes we've been sticking trying to hit upon, you know,
every now and then, is you know, budget friendly. You know,
beef is not down in price by any means. And

(01:34:50):
this recipe calls for a pound of ground meat, and
ground chuck is better, more flavor, and it'll make about
eight to nine slices, you know, and if you did
it with a you know, a nice salad on the side,
that's that's pretty far in your budget. So, like I said,

(01:35:12):
a pound of ground chuck and three tablespoons of homemade
taco seasoning. I've discussed this before. It's super easy. You know,
get your a Mason jar, go to Pinterest and do
some search and and just make up your own taco seasoning.
The taco seasoning in you know, jars or packets have

(01:35:37):
fillers in them that you don't want to eat. It's
got stuff in there to keep it from compacting, and
you don't want that. So, you know, three tablespoons of
your own homemade taco seasoning, salt and pepper, and then
that's just the meat based. You're gonna brown all of

(01:35:58):
that and then put it into your baking dish, and
then you're going to uh make your your topping. And
that is six large eggs, a cup of heavy cream,
a quarter teaspoon of garlic powder, and it says optional.

(01:36:21):
Why would it be optional? And then the next is
a quarter teaspoon of ground Cooman and it says optional. No,
it's not optional. Cooman is so good for you and
it's so flavorful. I get it at natural Grocers in bulk.
I mean it's not a ten ten gallon container, but

(01:36:43):
I mean it's it's a it's a big package. And
so I get the seeds and then what I do
is I take a black skillet and I get it hot,
and I pour those seeds in there, and I just
keep stirring it. Don't walk away from it. All you're
doing is toasting those seeds and your house is gonna

(01:37:05):
smell fabulous. Let it cool, and then you can put
it in like some sort of a grinder and put
it into a mason jar and put a label on it.
You got Coomen and it's no comparison to the stuff
you can get at the store. And then you're gonna

(01:37:26):
want one and a half cups of shredded cheddar cheese
and divide that so like three quarters and three quarters,
and then it gives you some serving you know, options
with sour cream or avocado, shredded lettuce. First and foremost,
you're gonna have to preheat your oven to three fifty

(01:37:52):
and then, like I said, it's so simple, just brown
your ground meat, you know, with your with your salt
and your pepper, and this will fill a like a
nine inch pie pan. And so then you're going to

(01:38:18):
it does say to to grease your pan with you know,
some butter, avocado oil, whatever, and don't don't skip on
doing the edge just because of the the egg mixture
can can stick pretty good, you know. Blend up those
eggs really good. Well, maybe even in a magic bullet

(01:38:41):
or with your with your whisk, you know, really really
go on it, uh, go at it, you know vigorously.
You want it to be kind of frothy and all
mixed together. Well, and then you're going to like I said,
you'll have your seasoned ground beef on the bottom. And

(01:39:06):
then you're gonna sprinkle that half of the cheese on
top of that. Then you're gonna pour the egg mixture
on top, and then you're gonna top it with the
rest of the cheese. And you know, this is quick.
It's a good weeknight meal. It's thirty minutes. It's best

(01:39:32):
if you let it sit for about five to ten
minutes before cutting into it, so that you get nice slices.
And like I said, you can top it with whatever.
You could use some salsa, sour cream, avocado, guacamali, side salad,

(01:39:53):
and you've got a really good, hearty meal that was fast.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I love tacos, sour creamy onion, garlic.

Speaker 7 (01:40:07):
Yeah, you can add You could add the onions to
the ground beef cook them at the same time. And
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Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
Sounds good. Build anything on her recipe that you're not
going to get in the care.

Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
Package sounds like something we could make.

Speaker 6 (01:40:52):
Oh, there you go see she's ruined you. I didn't
think you'd ever say that you've created a monster.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Susie.

Speaker 7 (01:41:03):
Well, it is pretty easy, and I know he mean it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Sometimes with tacos, instead of putting all that wonderful stuff in,
I might just take the sausa i've got and put
a few scoops because they've usually got garlic and onions
and all that great stuff already in it. So I
cheat a little bit and then put my sour cream.
But I love me some tacos.

Speaker 7 (01:41:30):
Yeah, this this recipe is pretty flexible. I like that idea,
and would not as well give a shameless plood to
us all of my pickle Uh. They've got all kinds
of fermented sauces now, and that would be perfect on top.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Yeah, I bought theirs. There was three different varieties the
last time I bought. I don't know what they got now,
but they were very good, good flavor, and they were fermented,
so they were good.

Speaker 7 (01:42:00):
Are you well, I've just created a monster. I love
that turmeric and pepper fermented pickled brine, and I just
went through it. I finished it the first week and
now then now I'm on the strawberry a dragon fruit, strawberry,

(01:42:22):
and it's okay, but it's just too weird to me
that so far, the turmeric black pepper is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
Just it's funny. I just finished the turmeric black pepper
and I am on the strawberry dragon fruit at the
same time.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
Funny, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
I try not to ever run out, even if I
have to go steal money from somebody, because it's just
too good. I buy like an eight I think there's
eight or nine varieties, and I try to buy out
the only one. There's one with a certain kind of pepper,
and it's a little spicy, but but I don't mind that.

Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Remember the name of it now. But I like all
of them, and even the plain kosher Dell juice is wonderful.
And what I do if I buy pickles or olives
from them, I save that juice when I'm done and
drink it too. Right, Yeah, everybody should put some of

(01:43:23):
that in their diet. It takes care of so many problems,
and it tastes good, and you could probably put booze
with some of it and make some pretty cool cocktails.

Speaker 7 (01:43:33):
Well you know, actually, no, the laugh bill, I saw
that they had a Facebook page, and so I went
to their Facebook page and I was just scrolling through
and they had some sort of a margarita recipe using

(01:43:55):
one of their brinds. But y'all talk, and I'll.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
Look, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
And Bill, you had to tell me you don't ever
think about a new cocktail in all your worldly travels.
Are you a Martini guy or what?

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:44:14):
I was never one for as we used to call it,
fancy booze. I either have preferred just straight scotch or maybe,
and I'm not for all. I haven't had wine for
a long time because I just you know, because I
take it or leave it. But no, I never I

(01:44:36):
never was won much for mixed drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Yeah, I don't drink many of them. I had a
for some reason, every time I've ever flown, I have
a Bloody Mary. I don't know why, it just I
do it every time I get that craving. And there's
been a couple of times I went to some nice
places for breakfast over the years and they had Mimosa's

(01:45:03):
and Bloody Mary's for breakfast. So I tried one then.
But other than that, yeah, I'm like you, I like
straight scotch. Ice cold beer, dark beer, no ipa stuff,
and I like tequila, and I like rome. I was

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down in Puerto Rico, rum was king. I lived down
there about.

Speaker 8 (01:45:30):
A year, so well, you know when I worked. When
I worked down there too, it was it's fine. I
hadn't really thought you just said this, but a six
pack of col A Coca Cola was a buck and
a half and a fifth of Bacardi Dark was seventy
five cents. Yeah, what do you think we drank.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Yeah, a friend of mine back when I lived down there,
and this has been a long long time, but they
owned a restaurant and Old San Juan called Mama's Little Italy,
and I don't know if it was there when you
were there, but it was a great place. Good food.

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That was one of the things, especially Old San Juan.
They had some great foods and restaurants.

Speaker 6 (01:46:21):
I worked there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
It was so long ago that I worked for Eastern
Airline when they were still in business.

Speaker 7 (01:46:31):
So this is one of their margarita recipes. And this
might be the one that you said was kind of spicy.
It's a AUGI.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Yeah, agy, that's a spicy pepper.

Speaker 7 (01:46:49):
Okay, So you may not want to add this serrano
and it's like one one little slice, one and a
half ounces of lime juice, two ounces of Blanco tequila,
five ounces of purple sec and then one ounce of

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their Augie and Marilla pepper and mango.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
Yeah, ANGI I was gonna say angiam mango and so
it's pretty good.

Speaker 7 (01:47:21):
It's not so funny. You can have a fermented margarita.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Well, Bill, even if you don't like the margarita, you
should have some of their pickle juices on a regular basis.
It's it's a gift from the gods.

Speaker 8 (01:47:37):
That's good stuff. Right when Susan on the best one
is this American pepper one. I think that's the best.

Speaker 7 (01:47:45):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
So your what is your favorite, Susy out of them.

Speaker 7 (01:47:51):
It's it's the it's the Tamerican and pepper. It's very
hard not to unscrew the little cap and then just
down the whole bag. But no, I'm nice. I have
a large shot glass and you know I do it
twice a day. But I bet I bet that stuff's

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helped you this week with that stomach bug.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
I took some before the show because with my stomach
it's still been bothering me.

Speaker 6 (01:48:22):
And I think that helped a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
And then if there's any bad guys left, I'm killing
them with scotch.

Speaker 6 (01:48:29):
There you go, and good this.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
This was the Father's Day weekend and none of I
don't think any of us have fathers anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
But I was blessed with my youngest.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
Daughter and they she got me this really cool hat
that's got two little fans and they work on solar
power and a battery that you can plug into a
USB port and so the fans cool your face while
you're out of the hot sun. And I was really surprised.
I just got it today and tried it and it

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was wonderful. And I also, I can't imagine how they
thought of this, but I got this wonderful bottle of scotch.

Speaker 6 (01:49:14):
Somebody thinks I drink, oh, but it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
It is Glenn Livitt and it's like twelve year aged
and it tastes so good.

Speaker 6 (01:49:25):
I feel like I'm committing a.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Sin, but I will. I mean, I've already I've already
broke thirteen or fourteen of the ten commandments, so it
really don't matter.

Speaker 7 (01:49:39):
So in this same little ad for all of my
pickle on Facebook, they've got a probot at guacamali.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Wow, that sounds good.

Speaker 7 (01:49:50):
Yeah, and two avocados, a third of a cup of
red onions, half a cup of tomato, half of a halapen,
some cilantro line, and then one and a half ounces
of their kosher deal live brind.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
I was just thinking, that's the one I would have
picked for that. That's they got a green one too,
I forget or not green. It's like blueish, uh, and
it's really good.

Speaker 7 (01:50:21):
Trying to remember I can never say that words.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
Barrel spirroleina, yes, sperolina. It's ow. It's kind of like
algae and it's good for you.

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
So yeah, I was surprised to see that they had
quite a bit of recipes.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Oh yeah, that's some wonderful thing I got. I'm gonna
try some of those because I just happened to know
somebody who drinks. You gotta do that, though, You gotta
do it all right, guys were winding down, Susie, You
and Steve with your place mats or graphics or whatever
you guys want to call them. Have just at a

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fabulous job.

Speaker 7 (01:51:02):
Bill he gets the credit this time around. I helped
very little.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Both the have become a really great team, and we're
blessed with a producer that keeps it changing. During the show,
I'm trying to monitor the mixer and two different screens,
and so I miss a few things. But I looked
up earlier and it was some really cool stuff. So

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great jobs.

Speaker 6 (01:51:32):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
You need to turn on your computer one night and
just go click on the show and watch it because
you get to see yourself and Susie and me and
all the stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:51:44):
In the background. It's pretty great, pretty good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
All right, Well we're at that time of night, Susie,
anything you'd like to close this out with.

Speaker 7 (01:51:55):
Yeah, well, number one, I'm sorry you're not feeling well.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:52:01):
I hope you play your better soon.

Speaker 10 (01:52:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:52:05):
And Steve and myself and his son had been hit
by allergies like a ton of bricks, and I think
he's righted. You know, right after this last rainstorm, it's
like we all got it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Remember I told you every time a new storm comes,
you get new stuff. Yep, you got you got a
Sinus Forte, Allegro and alerplex and then those three will
probably knock up into dirt and get rid of it
for you.

Speaker 7 (01:52:39):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
So I'm sure I'm sure you were on top of
it quick. But for anybody out there, listen, and that's
where we go. Alerplex, uh Allergico and uh Sinus Forte
used to be called Euphrasier and they changed the name.
So anything else is before we give it the bill.

Speaker 7 (01:53:03):
No, that's it, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Well, great recipe stuff. I really love the way you
looked into the all of my pickle juices. I love them.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
And it's funny you and I have the last two
you did or the last two that I did, and
right now I'm doing the strawberry and dragon fruit, which
I had never heard of before, but it tastes good.

Speaker 6 (01:53:29):
All right, Bill, anything you'd like to close out with,
No bill.

Speaker 8 (01:53:37):
And now it's it's just been a quiet, quiet week.
So everything is uh just kind of cruising along.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
And uh.

Speaker 8 (01:53:46):
One thing, one thing I did hear uh that was
a little concern was that there are good buddy George
Souls is apparently uh wearing a lot of money into
Texas to convert it to a blue state. Whether that's

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true or not, I think the point it was that's
just because we don't hear about him like we did
for a while, or that because we don't hear what
the chuckle, Schumer or any of these other kinds of
libbys are up here. Does not mean that they're just
sitting quietly. They're not.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
There. Anybody that has any doubts needs to go. Look.
There's an interview with George Soarrows talking about how he
worked with the Germans against his own family as a kid. Yeah, evil,
evil man. And that lady that was blessed with a

(01:54:53):
silver spoon in her mouth from Sam Walton is her
hands and some bad stuff too, and I sure hope
they stop that. A lot of evil people want to
see nothing but bad and you got to wonder, why
what are they planning on? It's not a good thing. Susy,

(01:55:17):
your recipe was great, Bill, your topic was fabulous. I
cannot thank Steve, our producer, and Susie and Bill enough
guys that they make this special and it is a
fun thing to do. I notice no matter how all
of us are feeling, we tend to do a lot

(01:55:40):
better and come to life doing the show. And it's
funny because if you have anybody that's been through a
divorce or a loss of somebody, are a breakup or
a or a new relationship, the kind of music they
want to hear is different. If you're a tomboy likes

(01:56:03):
Susie and you grew up with brothers, you tend not
to like too many female artists. You like more of
the guys because you were a tomboy. That's just that
part of you. And then the ones that tend to
like the girl music more never did any of that

(01:56:24):
kind of stuff, and they, you know, delicate, and so
it's funny when I go to choose music, I'm thinking
about all those things and the people that are listening.
And like Bill good God, Bill knows more about music
than I mean, he's probably forgot more than I'll ever understand.
And just like he said, he listens to a song

(01:56:45):
that I play and can tell you about the musician,
and you know, I just think that's so cool.

Speaker 6 (01:56:55):
So you get all these different perspectives.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
I've had people say, how about play this song, replay that,
and I try to work them in, But you know,
everybody's personality.

Speaker 6 (01:57:07):
Is different, what you're going through is different.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
What kind of music you want to listen to, I
think depends a whole lot on what's going on in
your life and how you grew up maybe, and what's
happened to you after you've been growing up? So kind
of interesting buildings?

Speaker 8 (01:57:23):
Who's growing up?

Speaker 7 (01:57:25):
Right, I'm gonna say, who's growing up?

Speaker 6 (01:57:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
I saw a thing the other day. The little boy
asked his mom or no. He was telling his mom
when I grow up, I want to be a biker,
and I smiled because I have a bike. And then
she told him make up your mind. You can't be both.
And I guess that's true when you ride a motorcycle. Yeah,

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when you ride a motorcycle, you never really grow up,
but you have to. You have to get older.

Speaker 6 (01:57:58):
You just don't have to grow up. That's a good
way to look at it, all right, guys, Well, thank
you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Ladies and gentlemen. We've I think we had eight nations
listening to us this week. We've continued to have a
lot of listeners throughout that other software we used on
things like Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Apple, And I was.

Speaker 6 (01:58:30):
Telling Steve seeing a lot of listeners on Chrome.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
So I'm not sure how that works because I don't
know much. I don't use Chrome on my computer.

Speaker 6 (01:58:42):
But we've had about eight countries. We're so grateful.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Do you guys take your time out of your busy
lives and listen to us, and we hope we provide
a little little humor, a little entertainment, give you some
food for thought, maybe teach you some things you didn't know,
maybe give you something that you might want to question
us about. And you can go to docgroupa dot com
and that's Susie's website she made for us. Click on

(01:59:08):
contact us and whether you've got a question about producing
shows and all that stuff, or our head doctor stuff
from Bill or the woman who's got pistol pecking Mama
Granny from from.

Speaker 6 (01:59:25):
Beverly, don't say that from Hillbillies.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Uh, whatever your questions, we'll get you an answer back,
so that'd be cool. I was, I was watching the
thing the other day on baseball, and they have a
new thing now. When the picture comes off the mound,
they one of the umpires has to check his hands.
And I was remembering that jet Throbodin could throw a

(01:59:52):
baseball like nobody on this earth as long as he
could use pussum fat. You can't do that nowadays. But anyway,
thank you guys so much. I know the audience loves
you guys as much as I do. And it's a
great team effort. And I am so grateful for the
friendship and the team we've got together here, and so

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grateful for all you out there listen to us. May
God bless you all with health and happiness, keep your
lives peaceful, free and safe. And it is that time
for good scotch, good cigars, and good night.

Speaker 7 (02:00:35):
Yeah, good, not at all, Good night everyone, God bless.

Speaker 11 (02:00:41):
Seems the love I've known has always been the most
destructive kind.

Speaker 6 (02:00:46):
Guess that's why now.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
I feel so old before my time.

Speaker 11 (02:00:55):
Yes today, when I was here, the taste of life
was sweet as rain upon my tongue. I teased at length,
as if it were a foolish game, the way the
even breeze may tease a candle flame.

Speaker 6 (02:01:16):
The thousand dreams I dreamed.

Speaker 11 (02:01:19):
The splendid things I planned, I always built to last on.

Speaker 5 (02:01:25):
Weakened, shifting sand.

Speaker 6 (02:01:27):
I lived by night and.

Speaker 11 (02:01:29):
Shunned the naked light of day.

Speaker 6 (02:01:32):
And only now I see how the.

Speaker 3 (02:01:36):
Years ran away yesterday when I was young.

Speaker 11 (02:01:43):
So many happy songs we're waiting to be sung, so
many wild pleasures lay in storm