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Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what condition condition?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
I woke up the morn with the sundown shun.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I found my mind in a brown paper pegs.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
But then a cloud and Phil eight miles, I.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Told mine man on a jacket start.
Speaker 9 (02:18):
I just dropped in, see what condition my condition was in?
Speaker 8 (02:26):
Yeah, welcome everybody to doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours. If
you tuned in, we're running a little bit behind. We
had some echo stuff going on, but we've got Susie, Bill, myself,
and our producer Steve in the background, and hopefully we'll
(02:49):
be able to continue on. Uh Susie and Bill. If
you guys like to say hello, go ahead, Susie.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Hi, everyone, thanks for joining.
Speaker 8 (02:59):
Holy all right, I'm on my phone, So let's take
it away tonight. We were going to talk about sored
throats tonsil itis they would call it sometimes, and issues
of taking out your tonsils, are not taking out your tonsils?
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And what do you do when you get a sore throat?
So we're gonna touch on all that. The big thing
that I've seen over the last I don't know, twenty
six years maybe, is by the time your throat tells
you it hurts, it usually looks pretty bad down there.
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And so what I've learned to do on everybody is
you can't just take things to make the infection go away,
because the bad guys on your tonsils don't die. And
if you make the mistake of taking antibiotics, so what
happens is the infection on your tonsils never got killed
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because you didn't kill the surface bacteria. And every time
you take antibiotics, it comes back faster and more vicious
the next time, and so it just keeps happening and happening.
I had this with a patient and their throat used
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to look like moon craters, white moon craters on the
moon in the back of their throat. It was horrible
and they were suffering, and they always waited until it
was too bad. But they had done a lot of
antibiotics before they let me get involved. So what I
started doing, and it worked very very well, is I
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would take regular tincture of iodine. I would get the
long cotton swabs and I would swab the throat with iodine.
I mean paint it good. If they have tonsils, i'd
paint them. If they don't have tonsiles, I still paint
where they are because whether you have tonsils or not,
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you still get the infection there at the same spot.
And what's happening with the tonsils, it's just like the lipnodes.
It's fighting the infection for you. Unfortunately, sometimes the infection's overpowering.
Your weak immune system might come into play. A lot
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of things happen. And even when the tonsils are working perfect,
they still swell up and get sore, because that's what
they're supposed to do. They're trying to contain that infection.
And so I would paint the throat really good. And
when God, I'm a firm believer that just because you
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have tonsoles taken out, that tissue does not go away.
It's a gland, and glands have the ability, it seems
to me, to kind of hang around and maybe even
come back. So I would paint the throat with E
and I AM. I would do laser, and I would
do it on both sides of the throat so it
covered the whole area, and then I would start them
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on contuplex and andigraphists. Sometimes they have contuplex only, so
I would have them do one conduplex every hour for
the first day, and then if they wake up the
next morning doing a lot better, I would have them
cut that dose seas in half. And then if they've
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got andographists, we do half as many have andographists at
least three or four in the course of a day.
If they've got dimex, we might use that. Those work
really really well, and then I would tell them gargle
and tilt your head back real deep. Let it get
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down in there with sea salt and water peroxide, a
natural mouthwash, anything to get back in there and make
the bacteria that are hanging around on the surface not happy.
Only one time ever in all these years, that I
swab a throat more than one time, and that was
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the one that looked like moon craters, and they got
it really bad. And part of the problem is they
did not think that I could help. They thought they
needed antibiotics, and they had done that several times, and
now they were at a loss because they didn't know
what to do. So they cleared it up. It worked great,
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and anybody can swab the throat at home, but a
lot of people won't do that. They want the doctor
to do it. So if you want to do it
at home, you buy a tincture of iodine and you
get the long Q tips or take two Q tips
together and get back there and paint that throat really good.
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Nobody likes that. A lot of people gag, but it
kills the surface bacteria and you really really make a
giant difference. So pretty simple. And I never believe in
taking the tonsils out unless you've got some kind of
full blown tonsil cancer. And I've not ever seen that,
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but I know a lot of people when we were kids,
if you walked by the doctor's office, they took out
your tonsils and adnoids before you got off the sidewalk,
and it was a bad thing. They made a lot
of money, and you need that. Your tonsils and adnoids
were not accessory items. So very sad. And like I said,
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it's a gland. I do believe it grows back to
a certain extent, just like the thyroid. So swab the throat,
we do laser on it, and then we take the condoplex.
And also if you have emiplex at home, I'll have
you do two or three of them. Three or four
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times a day if it's really bad, but most of
the time the very next day is miracle difference and
then they can take care of it with condoplex, handigraphis,
dimes and even things like cataplex ACP will help you.
Aliplex might help in a bind if you didn't have
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nothing else. And very important to gargle was something, and
especially a mouthwash that doesn't have a bunch of crap
in it, like a floor eide and all that, and
you just tilt your head back and gargle deep where
you feel it get on the throat there, and usually
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one day and the next day is like it was
a miracles, really really good trick. I learned this when
I was a interned in college working in the clinic,
and there was a doctor Dmitri, who was a retired
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doctor of osteopaths back in the old days when they
He was more like a Doc Adams kind of guy,
and he taught me more about pediatrics and geriatrics than
anybody else in that whole school. Nobody else wanted to
listen to him. He was an older guy, and I
think they thought he was not too smart, but he
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knew things. And this thing about the iodine. He taught me,
and then I came up with doing the laser on
it and what products to use. But if you don't
swab that throat, it's coming back to bite you. It
will not heal very fast. You've got to kill the
surface bacterious anything. Susy.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Yeah, a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I guess I was just a guinea pig for doctors
from you know, six to my twenties. And when I
was six, not only did I have my tonsils taken out,
but I had taken out at an army hospital.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
Yay.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
I don't remember, pardon me much about it. I just
remember stories that were told me. And uh, you know,
you know, not only did they steal my tonsils, they
lied to me. And you know, a nurse came in
and you know, it was looking and whatnot, and I said,
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you know what happened? You know, obviously she wanted to
looking in my mouth and I ask what happened? And well,
the doctor took your tonsils out? And I'm like, where
did they go? Oh, they flew out the window. I'm
not thought when I heard that story, you know, it's
no wonder I was a messed up kid. But you know,
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I don't think God gave us any body part by accident.
So one of the things that maybe the audience doesn't get,
maybe I don't get, is what is the function of
the consoles and why we should have them.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Well, like I was mentioning before, think of the tonsils
like your lymphodes, where they swell up and try to
contain the problem and they try to kill it, and
so they're trying to help you. But in the meantime,
just like our liptodes, they swell up and they hurt,
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they get our attention, and that's kind of another check
engine light saying we got a problem here, let's fix it.
And I saw a lot of patients who had never
had their throat swabbed, and it did antibiotics, and it
just kept coming back and quicker and more vicious. The
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worst I ever saw with that was that one patient,
and I mean it literally looked like moon craters when
you looked in that throat. It was horrible.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Well was interesting. What's interesting to me is I was
told that I was sick all the time with earaches,
and so that's why they took them out. But now
I have problems with my ears all the time, So
I don't think they helped me.
Speaker 8 (13:55):
Yeah, it had nothing to do with helping you. It
was it was just like with any problem in the body.
If if if it rares its ugly head and says
we have a problem, they like to cut it out
and take out the light bulb. But the problems still there.
The light bulb just doesn't turn on. So your problems
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never went away, and they probably got made worse because
they took out things that could help you. And so
your body has had the struggle all these years without tounsils,
without the gallbladder, you know. And it's not like you
could go to the autoparts and get new ones, good, bad, anything. Bill,
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I'm sure you lost yours along the way. Nope, I
still got them. It's I remember that it was a
sort of a badge of courage for kids in school
to have their tonsils out, you know, they kind of
come back and they were tough guys, the big guys
that had their councils out. Nobody really knew what the
(15:04):
deal was. Nobody knew what councils did, but that never
stopping from taking them out. Yeah, it was it was
just easy money. It was the early version of the
Today's gallbladder and hysterectomies. It was just an easy, they thought,
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quick fix, but all it really did was make them money.
But I've never seen anything work so well as doing
the iodine swab and then come back with conduplex every
hour and agraphist if you've got it, mix it in there.
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Dimex sometimes helps pretty well. There is timex and conteplex,
so you know you can do either way. I've had
patient it's like Susy and Bill to six dimx before
and it tastes really horrible. I'd rather chew cardioplus, but
it works. And then if we do the laser and
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swabbing the throat, you've covered all the basis. The problem
in a lot of things is people will not do
the surface bacteria on something and try to treat it
with antibiotics or something else, and they can't figure out
why it keeps coming back. So that that's pretty much
it a simple fix. If somebody in your family or
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you wake up with a sore throat and you want
me to walk it through that, just give us a call.
You can contact us through the show on the website
that SUSY's created at doc CRUPA dot com and that's
dooc k r o u PA dot com, or you
can call, especially during the show. We normally would have
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done that, but tonight we're using all the phones, so
it's better to go through the website and we'll get
back to you and we'll help you with that. So
big thing though, is keep some thinks you're of iodine around.
When we were kids, they had your care chrome and
they all panicked about that, and me diolate. They used
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to have that, and I haven't seen any of them anymore,
but they still have iodine. And the iodine has got
that picture of the skull and crossbones, but it works
really well. And that and the laser. The laser does
some phenomenal healing. And then you just cannot beat gonduplex
and and the graphics and Dimex. Those things are just wonderful.
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So we're going to go to our normal routine and
when we go to the break, we'll come back and
go right to Bill. Bill, you got something up your
sleeve tonight. I think you said something about grieving. Yep,
a little bit. Okay, that's a good topic. Good topic,
that's a that's something everybody goes through differently, and I'm
(18:15):
sure that's going to be interesting. Dizzy, you got some
recipes up your sleeve.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yeah, I've got one. And just so that y'all know,
I bought some. I got mcure chrome for like seven bucks,
a little over seven dollars on Amazon.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
I've never tried it with my care chrome. Uh. And
I didn't even know it was still around, but they
had them when we were kids. They use it on
everything but iodines. What I like best for swapping the throat.
We called it that I would try mccare chrome.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
What that we called the mcure chrome monkey blood.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Yeah, that's a good way.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Yeah. The only one I trusted to apply it to
me was my grandmother because she would put it down
and then should blow, blow, blow, blow until it quit briney.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Well, it's cool. Yeah, it was big when we were kids.
All right, let's switch gears for a minute. I recently
found a company that makes small batch vinegars and they
have a special extravergent olive oil two that they get
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through one of their companies they work with. But they
vinegars are fermented age thing and they age it and
then the company is called American Vinegar Works. And I
was so impressed with these people. They they understand customer service.
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I ordered stuff and before I realized that they had
sent it to the post office. Well in my neighborhood,
and most of this god forsaken crowded city they took
away mailboxes. And you have a group mailbox that sits
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out in the weather down at the end of the street,
so you don't even know if your delivery has been
made unless you get some kind of notification, or you
happen to check, or you saw the male lady go by.
And so I contacted them and was concerned about that,
and a guy named Rob checked on my ardor told
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me when it would be here, so I knew to
go look for it. And one of them's got beer
in there, one of them's got a hot wine, one
of them's got some other kind of brandy or something.
So they have several different flavors and you can get
a little sampler, small bottles of these vinegars. And what
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I wanted it for is like when you make a
vinaigrette salad dressing, or you want to put some vegetables
and you put olive oil in this, and they give
you some recipes. In fact, I have a card from there.
I'm a lady named Karen, handwritten card just to say
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thank you for buying from them, and they show you
a picture on the card of the small batch vinegar
that they make, and they found it was an old
German company or recipe and they found all this and
duplicated it. I think they're somewhere in the East Coast.
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And it was funny when I told them about stuff's
sitting out in the heat here, he said, you know
up here we still have mailboxes. We weren't even aware
of that. So he said, you let us know when
you buy something and won't make sure it comes youps
or fed or something. That was pretty cool. Yeah, I
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was really impressed. Oh. I wanted to reiterate to people,
if you send me anything from Facebook Messenger, I will
not respond. I've had things that were not who they
said they were. And we're very concerned with our doctor's
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license about medical text on your cell phone and things
like Facebook Messenger, because you know what's going to happen.
People sometimes will click in Facebook or exer truth and
want to talk to me. I won't do that either,
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because I don't know who's looking at it. I don't
know if it's real. There's been times where it was not,
and I'm not going to give up my doctor's license
to talk to you. And unfortunately, I have one friend
that I have asked him maybe ten eleven times, please
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do not send me something to Facebook Messenger, and he
keeps doing it. I think he forgets. And he even
put in there one time, just checking on the doctor,
but he never responds, and it made me look really bad,
like I'm being rude. So I just wanted to reiterate
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to people that I do not use Facebook Messenger. I
might click on a birthday for somebody that I know
because it doesn't automatic happy birthday, but I do not
post comments. I do post our show on Facebook, Twitter,
X and Truth, and then our show also goes out
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to that other company we used to use automatically to
about fifteen different sites. But I will not speak. I
will not talk. I had somebody the other day click
on how you've been where are you at. I'm not
answering that stuff. I don't know if it's a setup,
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because there have been them kind of things, and our
board says do not let people text you medical information
on the phone, So I'm not you know, the license
is too hard to get. I'm not giving it up
this late in the time. So if you do that,
it's not me being rude. It's me doing what I
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have to do to protect your privacy and my privacy
and my license. So we're not going to do that.
And so here's one maybe you can help me with.
I have literally thousands of women on truth and Facebook,
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all wanting to be my friends, all following me, all
wanting me to respond to them. I don't do that either,
and I'm sure they're all in love with me because
many of the pictures are the same one, so I'm
sure it's legitimate. I mean, I'm amazed every day there
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are more, and I don't know if they just troll
or they want to test you. But again, I'm not
at clicking on anybody's anything unless I know them, so
I won't be following or communicating with them. But it's
so funny. They must think people are really stupid because
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a lot of the pictures that they post are the
same picture, so either everybody looks alike. But it's so funny.
And then when sometimes they'll tell me, I mean, we
want to be a friend on Facebook and so you
can click on there and see who their friends are
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and all their friends or guys. There's no women friends,
so you know that's not a good thing. So I
stay away from that kind of stuff. Yep. And what else,
what do you think is he in that kind of funny?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Well, no, it's a pain in the butt. They've gotten
nefarious plans. You know, they want to scam you in
some kind of a way, or they want to collect
your you know, personal data. You know, I don't get
the girls. I get the men. And for the longest time,
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it was like, you know, five star generals, you know,
holding a peppy in a rose and or they they
would look like some celebrity. And you know what was
that Doseki's man, you know, real handsome Latino man. They
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used his image once. And so I've seen it where
there might be two or three of my friends are
this fake person's friend, which just simply means they fail
for it. Oh, someone's paying attention to me.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
Yay.
Speaker 8 (27:24):
Yeah, it's very sad, but I thought it was so
humorous when I start seeing the same picture. Yeah, Bill,
you're probably not on the computer long enough for those problems,
are you. No, And I don't think I've ever looked
at Facebook. Okay, well, I post our show on Facebook, Twitter,
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which is now X and truth because our automatic system
that sends it out, that's the three it missus. So
I do them, and I do it religiously. So consequently
i'm you know, like I give you an example. I
had one. I had one that's happened many times. I
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don't know what's going on, but I tried to request
you to be a friend, and it wouldn't let me.
Will you send me a friend? Requies Yeah, like I said, yeah,
many times it's the same picture, and they all want me.
They just they just can't handle themselves. They're so desperate
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for me. So all right, one last thing? Or what's
that city?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
No? God, go ahead, Oh, I was just going to say.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
You and I have talked many times about skin issues
and treating things that might be a cancer, might not,
who knows. Sometimes And one of the problems that you
run into is sometimes people do not want to have
to wear or put stuff on them. Are we're a
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band aid because other people see it and we're self conscious?
And what I have figured out because my skin is
light and freckled, and I've suffered my whole life. I
do not tan. I turned different colors of red, and
my skin has had many, many, many issues, and to
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this day, I'm always fighting some little skin cancer thing
somewhere and I have to stay on top of it.
But what I figured out because my arms they were
they just had a lot of things going on, just annoying.
And what I start trying was, you know, susy, we
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got that egg plant with the acid and then there's
cure dirm. But what I also found that works very
very well is using the egg plant with the acid frequently.
They will tell you put it on once or twice
a day and cover it. And I found that if
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you use it and every time you think about it,
you put it on, it works better. And you can
take seventy percent rubbing alcohol and rub that on your
skin where those things are and they work. So I've
seen a bunch of things clear up from doing the
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alcohol and sometimes doing the eggplant acid concoction, and some
things I'm still fighting. So I know there's some kind
of a little canceroust issue there that I'm dealing with.
But my skin is gone through hell ever since I
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was a little kid, and it's just you know, that's
just the way it is for me. It's part of
the fair skin stuff. My brother gets as dark as
if he was an afrit American and he's never had
any of those problems, but me the other way around.
So you might try that anybody that's got issues with
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the skin. You don't have to put the band aid on.
If you don't like the smell of the egg plant
then because it's got out an asset in there, and
you can try apple cider vinegar, but a lot of
people don't want that smell either. You can just try
with the regular rubbing alcohol. Put it on as often
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as you think about it, as many times as you
walk by your bathroom. You can do it. And only
good things seem to be happening when I do that,
So just a little I used to me as a
guinea pig, and it seemed to be working well on
a lot of things. And again it depends on what
you're dealing with. Some of the things I don't know
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if they were a little cancer cell or not, but
a lot of things on my arms cleared up very well.
I still have that little spot on my nose from
when I cut it one day, and I'm still dealing
with that, but it's a lot better. So anything sus
before we go to break.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, if anyone's interested, that eggplant tin chair is available
at Amazon. Is just under twenty seven dollars. I think
it's down in price. And the company name is t
Period Botanicals, and it's like a maroon and green and
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white label. And I think it was like around the
end of twenty twenty three. Of course, I only had
one spot on my arm. And yeah, consistency is the key.
I can't express it any more than that. And getting
a good amount of it on whatever spot you're working on,
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and I would just pinch off a little bit of
cotton ball and I would just soak fairly well that
little piece of cotton ball and put it. And mine
was easy.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
It was on the left arm, on the top more
than likely, where my arm would get a lot of
you know, sun exposure from driving, you know, until I
had you know, dark tinted windows, and then I would
put a band aid on it.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
And I would sleep with it all night. So I
would have you know, a good amount of the tincture
UH in contact with the skin for seven or eight hours,
and I would do it like Doc said in the daytime,
unless I was going somewhere. But yeah, I can't say
enough about this particular tincture. And you know, it even
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says it's not, you know, not just for you know,
like a skin cancer, but other disorders. Discolored. Now, I
don't know what discolored means in their description. I don't
know if that means age spots. I just don't don't know.
But and then it talks about areas that might be
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a little thicken or scaly, and they call that characterosis.
But yeah, Eggplant tincture by Tea Botanicals at Amazon.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Yeah, And like I said, I experimented with the seventy
percent rubbing alcohol and put it on frequently and found
that they work very similar. So if you've got some
alcohol and you want to try, it's going to depend
on what you're dealing with. It's hard to say until
you try. But I saw some great things happen with
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both of them. I saw some good things happen with
the CUADERM but the problem was that area kept getting
hit and affected or I put glasses on and it
would rub it, and so I'm still dealing with that.
So but there are a lot of great things like
that to work. I did it right before we came
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in to do the show. All right, Bill, anything before
we go to break? Nope? No, all right, Steve, I
guess we're at that break time.
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Speaker 8 (39:43):
Welcome back everybody to doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours. I
am joined by Lousy Bill and We've got Steve, our producer,
hiding in the background, and we're gonna go right to Bill.
He's got a very interesting topic for his weekly topic,
and I think you're going to be very interested. Bill,
(40:04):
take it away. Well, yeah, I don't know what I'm sorry.
Anytime somebody says anything I'm going to say is interesting,
I get amused. You were talking last week about one
of your former patients who had passed on and how
(40:27):
that had had kind of come about and the family pressures,
and but the thing that that I took away from
that was how you responded to it and how you
you were you were dealing it with essentially the the
(40:50):
as I say, the phenomenon of loss, which is what
what grief has has to do with. I've always been
relived and to say I'm going to talk about grief
because that's one of the therapist's favorite topics because it
covers such a broad spectrum of centomology. But it's nonetheless
(41:13):
is one of the one of the really primal parts
of our emotional intellectual life. And it's you know, it's
the dealing with loss.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
This starts really the moment that we're born. We're it
pushed out of a very warm, safe place into a
very bright, cold place and it just kind of all
goes downhill from there. So how we respond to that
loss is is something that, as you said just a
(41:51):
few moments ago, is a very individual process. Well we
all deal with We all deal with that in our
own in terms of our own experienceial vocabulary and what
we saw as children, and how our parents dealt with
it and how they how they helped us to deal
with with things that we lost, if a pet, a
(42:13):
pet died, or grandparent as the way, or how how
that began to be part of our own personal culture.
And it's, uh, it's always been a kind of an
interesting thing that to my mind was too cut and
(42:34):
dried in terms of most therapists and certainly in terms
of how we approached that when we were students, how
how our instructors dealt with the they say, the whole
process of grief. Back in the fifties, the nineteen fifties,
(42:57):
at least use a Swiss woman the name was Kubler
Ross really did a lot of of uh of work
with with people who were experiencing a lot of grief
and noticed that there were several uh as she put
(43:18):
it stages that people went through. And I talked about
this some time ago under Sharma taught you a year
or so ago. I've had my problem with that when
you when when we say we have a series of
phenomena that are stages, it implies some kind of as
we say, chronicity, It implies some kind of a time
(43:41):
thing that this happens, and then that happens, and then
that happens, and that happens in a while. In some
respects that that's true. These five stages are five five
aspects are not discreet. They kept they keep recurring and
popping back up, and we have to we have to
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wind up dealing with them sort of as they recur.
And every time they recur, we we know a little more,
we've had a little more experience. We deal with it
a little differently. The first of those that will just
do kind of a real quick run through that again.
But the first of you know, with something something happens
(44:24):
that causes causes us to grieve, first of all, and
what what is grief? And I mean how you we
use a lot of these terms of you know, well,
you know they're grieving because they've had some but what
does what does grief mean? What does it mean to grieve?
And essentially it's it's it's a very deep and as
(44:50):
they say, boignant distress, something that it catches us. And
this balances our our usual way of life of functioning.
Death of a a family, death of a close friend,
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some natural catastrophe that people can somehow translate to their
own experience and grief for that that kind of thing.
But you know, when when something suddenly happens, someone someone
dies at an accident, you know, it's just the first
thing is that we deny that. No, I can't I
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can't believe they've gone. I can't believe that this happened
to this. The sense of denial is really is really
an expression of shock. So often that people who've been
ill for a long time were not particularly surprised that
they die, because that's what the illness is headed towards.
(45:52):
But when that actually happens, that it certainly can be
a bit of a shock. You know, we'll always expect
think death to happen down the road, and sometimes it
happens right now, and that that shock is part of
that denial process, and that that's a very kind of
profound way that we deal with this disbalance, with this
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this distress is is that we just back away from it.
The second the second stage that she uses is the anger.
We've become very angry that enough wasn't done. We've become
angry that they left. We become angry that we've been abandoned.
(46:43):
We've become angry that that has happened. Again. This is
if we look at at any loss that we've experienced,
that anger is very much a part of that. And
it's being aware that that these aspects of grief are
(47:03):
to be expected, they're not unusually they occur. It gives
us a little better sense of being in control of
how we how we deal with this just distress, with this,
with this loss. The third third aspect that she talks
about is bargaining if only I could have done a
(47:27):
little more, if I only would have known, if if
I would have been able to help, if I you know,
a lot of subjunctive use there that if word shows
up a whole lot, it's I could have done more
if only I would have been able to help or
know about it, or is this is again a way
that we we help ourselves deal with this Uh disturbance
(47:55):
of our normal routine, of our normal life, the way
that we've normally look at things. Fourth aspect is depression.
Finally we really understand that we've lost something that part
of our makeup, a part of our our world, or
(48:19):
part of our personality is not necessarily gone, but it
has changed. It's not gone because we remember things, we
have we have memories, we have experiences that we can
think back on it, but the actuality is gone, the
(48:39):
presence is gone, and we have to rely on on
the past to keep these thoughts alive. And the final
aspect that she talks about is accept as we finally
come to realize that, yeah, that somebody has has died,
somebody has passed on, We've lost something, part of our
(49:03):
part of our life is it's gone, has changed. And
to my mind, these these five aspects fall into two categories.
The first one is actually the category of grief. It's
a shock, it's sudden, that's now, these things it's these
(49:25):
five aspects really last, again depends on the person, but
they can last anywhere from a couple of months to
a couple of years. And after that it begins to
mellow out a little bit, and that grieving process becomes
a little more long term, and it becomes what I've
(49:49):
always called the mourning period if you are in ig
but we mourn the loss, and it's a it's a deeper,
in some ways quieter acceptance of loss. But those five
five aspects are still very much there, but they have
(50:10):
become tempered, tempered by time. I think if we if
we can kind of keep track of that, you know,
I could think you can think back to people that
I've that I have known for years and years ago,
(50:31):
and I still warn their their absence, things that I
have were part of my life that I still continue
to mourn long term, long term breathing process. What Ral
is on was that you kind of last week and
talking about your former patient who basically described every one
(50:54):
of those five aspects everyone very quickly. You went through
the very quickly. You were talking about your response to
hearing about this laws and and every one of those
five aspects was there. This is a very normal way
of dealing with that, and there's nothing actually enough. I
(51:17):
don't think we should avoid these experiencing these these different
and it's part of it's part of the process, it's
part of part of moving forward. And it's it's different
as the morning period. As time passes that more more partials,
(51:39):
more partials in these aspects really become a parent guilt.
We should have spent more time, we should have could
have called more, we should have been more involved. It's
uh a kind of an adjustment period for the we.
(52:00):
We tend to sometimes become more isolated because one of
the things that I'm working with older patients, I said,
you know, my friends have all my friends have died,
my friends have I just feel very alone. I don't
want to go anywhere, I don't want to do anything.
I just feel I feel abandoned. And this kind of
(52:22):
isolation of emotional and actual and real uh, isolation that
can occur, particularly as we as we become older and
we see so much of life moving on and leaving
us kind of behind, leaving us behind with our thoughts
(52:42):
and our memories. It's sometimes manifest itself in bitterness, you know,
grumpy old men. Right now, things are different, things are
not like they used to be, and we don't have
any troll over what's happening to us, and people are
dying and people are going away, and it's this this
(53:06):
terrible one of the one of the odd things too,
that I noticed that people were talking about the sense
of their having failed, that they failed, that the person,
their friend, their relative, whatever, died because they failed. And
it wasn't a failure that was something that they didn't do.
(53:30):
It was a failure of something that they were some
part of their personality wasn't enough to get this other
person through the experience. It's it's a very we're very
complex beings, and our emotions and our intellect are extraordinarily complex.
(53:55):
And one of the things that if we talk about
on the show, and I think it is important that
as our emotions fluctuate, our physical health fluctuates correspondingly, and
as our physical health it fluctuates, our emotional intellectual health
(54:17):
fluctuates accordingly. It's it's it's all hooked together and the
process of dealing with loss, of dealing with change. And
I suspect that any time you talk about change, you
are talking about some kind of loss. Something has has
(54:38):
moved one way or another, and we have departed from
where we were, We've lost something that we were. It's
just part of it all. It ain't easy. As the
old radio show Meggie and Molly, Molly used to say
it eight easy mcgie. It isn't easy. It isn't easy.
(54:58):
And I think accepting the fact that these kinds of
things are very difficult periods of our lives, but they
they do often as we become older, they become gentler,
and they become more easily, more easily understood and accept
it as part of this experience. Well there you are,
(55:24):
Like I said, good stuff. I didn't even realize I
went through all five of those things, you know, I
just I just knew. I was frustrated beyond beliefs that
he was. He was doing so good, and then they
somebody pressured him to go to the hospital and it
was downhill after that. Yeah, yep, I said. I think
(55:49):
I said cynically enough, it's all downhill anyway, But that's
just me. Yeah. Really like guy talking to a guy
the other day, he said, Yeah, when I woke up
this morning, I realized it was gonna be all downhill.
Oh funny anything.
Speaker 6 (56:11):
Yeah, it's uh, it's I mean, it's interesting stuff and
it is also true. And you know, I've experienced it
with my parents both ways, instant and long and drawn out.
And you know, as I was going through, you know,
the grieving process. Well, you know, I really went through
(56:36):
and this is probably uh, you know, right up Bill's alley. Uh.
I don't know if he's ever had to work with
a head case like me. You know, I was lied
to under the umbrella of protection. Just wanted to protect you. Well,
(56:57):
when you try to protect me, you pissed me off.
And so I was told that my dad had died
from a heart attack. Well, you know, I got this
little inner voice, you know, God speaks to me. And
it took me probably seven years, and I was like
(57:22):
something they write, something's not right, and not only looks
at me, and he goes, well, you know, there is
such a thing as a burst, I mean a death certificate.
And I looked at him and I'm like profound man.
And so I called the county. And you know in
Colleen fort Hood that's what I call it, it's Belle County.
(57:47):
And I called the county. Oh yeah, we've got that. Okay,
I want that, Okay, I'll mail it to you. And
it said homicide. Well then my grief started again again.
It was all different. First it was good day, my
(58:08):
dad died from a heart attack. Okay, I'm grieving, I'm sad,
I miss I'm twenty one. I miss my daddy, you know,
all that kind of stuff. I missed that he was
fixing to retire in nine months and be away from
that dagnable army. And I don't mean anything by that
unless you're an army brat. You know, you may not
(58:29):
understand why I said that. But then when I read
that death certificate, it started all over again, and it
was different. And I went through anger first because I
was like, who took my dad from me? And so
(58:51):
then I get police reports and you know, all this
to read and found out some things that I didn't
really like, and so then there was a different kind
of anger. But then with my mom, it was long
and drawn out, you know it, it was horrible. And
then you know, after she passed, it was like it
(59:13):
didn't matter how old I was. And this was only
what four or five years ago. I think I'm an orphan.
Well that's just whoy. But that was my first reaction.
I remember sitting at the nursing home in a chair,
going I'm an orphan. But that was my first reaction.
(59:34):
So I actually went to grief twice with my dad
and once with my mom.
Speaker 8 (59:40):
Yeah, it comes back, it comes back that I just
can't even imagine. Did you ever find out what really happened?
Speaker 6 (59:54):
Mm? He was shot six times in a bathtub, but
it's unsolved.
Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Wow. So sad, Oh, very sad. Did she describe those
steps or things as you described them, Bill in a
different way by getting angry at first? Yeah, there's this
(01:00:28):
Actually probably wasn't the first, that that was really the
because she had to re experience the whole thing, and
she'd gone through the first couple of things prior. But yeah,
there's no there's no waysh I say, there's no chronicity here.
These things, these are aspects, and they can occur in
any order, and sometimes fifty years later it'll all come
(01:00:51):
back just like the very first day.
Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
Yeah, they'll.
Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
Yep yep. And I think.
Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
I think I went through the anger when I found
out the truth about how my dad died first, because
that made sense to me because I had already gone through,
you know, the initials, right, the other stuff. I had
done it, and I had done it over and over
(01:01:22):
and over, and I didn't really do anger. Anger didn't
make sense. Why would I be mad at me or
my dad or anyone else because he had a heart attack,
you know, and I was kind of you know, in
that frame of mind. I lost both grandparents to heart attacks,
and so then here's my dad. But something didn't make
(01:01:46):
sense because he was forty four, you know, and they
were mid seventies, and so that was one of the
things that said, you know, come on, Susy, you're not
a done blonde. Think this out. You deserve the truth.
And so then when I got the truth, Holy cow, Oh,
(01:02:10):
the grief was so different.
Speaker 8 (01:02:11):
Then, hm, well you've been you'd been betrayed, and you've
been lied to, and yes, yeah, it makes it makes
a difference. Wow. I just can't imagine that that would
make anybody all five of those things, probably at once.
Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
And it was all it was all consuming because now
not only did my dad, my dad was murdered and
won the heart attack, and I had a death certificate
that steers you in the face, you know, in black
and white with the truth. And then you got a
husband who's thinking and has enough sense, and you know,
(01:02:55):
my immediate reaction after reading it was get me the
hell out of here. And I think I remember hitting
the dashboard, you know, with with my with my fist
and saying, get me out of here, and Towy said,
the police departments right across the road, when you like
(01:03:18):
to go over there and see if they know something.
And I looked at him and I was like, again, man,
that's profound. And so you know, I went over there
and walked away with I don't know, seventy five pages,
you know, interviews and ballistics and corners report and original
(01:03:44):
police board, you name.
Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
It, it was.
Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
It was in there. It was who needs to watch law?
Law and order? When you got that in your hands?
And and so one of the things that I became
during that period was obsesses it. And so I don't
know if y'all remember this or not, but you know,
before we had computers and things like that, I had
(01:04:09):
these really long pieces of like accounting paper, and so
I used them because they were long, and I was
making a timeline and I was dissecting every word, every hour,
every minute. Ever this the last time they saw him?
(01:04:30):
Who saw him? Last? Man? I went through that stuff
to the point that I couldn't even hardly function. It
totally consumed me.
Speaker 8 (01:04:46):
You bet, I just can't imagine anybody handling that. All right, guys,
we're almost at break time.
Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
Yeah, The person when we come back, Doc, I gotta
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Yeah, I don't know if that's a good I don't
know if that's a good thing or not. And what's
that is for Sissy who thinks she handles it real well,
was probably sitting on the moon when she found out. Well, hey,
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Fabulous. All right, we'll take it away, and I hope
you have recipe with a drink in it.
Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
Well, I've got a joke, and since we haven't had
any jokes, I decided to throw this one in there,
and uh, I like that, So yeah, yeah, hold on
to your seats. And so I tried, uh, mixing a
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up with tequila Mockenberg.
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Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
Okay, So I think it's been a while since I've
done any kind of like dessert or sweet or whatever.
And you know, last week we talked about you know, fermented.
Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
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Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
Whatever they are. I would like for us to think
that we should need sweets, but it depends on what
you're eating. And I was talking about last week where
this lady in Harper is making some fabulous sour dough breads,
(01:09:04):
and she made sour dough chocolate chip cookies and so
their pricey. It's like fifteen bucks for I don't know,
six maybe eight, but they're very large. So I decided
I'm going to find a recipe that's as close as
(01:09:25):
it is to hers. You know, shame on me. And
this recipe makes twenty four cookies. And you know, if
you've got you know, I know, girls of women or whatever,
they have an abundance of sour dough starter, and then
they're like, what can I do. I've got to do something.
(01:09:46):
I need to use it up, make some chocolate chip cookies.
So it's a cup of active sour dough starter. And
you want this at room temperature, and then a half
of a cup of unsalted butter, you know, melted and
then slightly cooled. You don't want to kill you know,
(01:10:08):
your your active culture in your sour dough starter. Half
a cup of brown sugar. And this is where I would, personally,
I would have to change it up, and so did
this lady in Harper. So it calls for a half
a cup of brown sugar and a quarter of a
cup of granulated sugar. And I would just do three
(01:10:31):
quarters of a cup of raw holkin sugar, and then
a teaspoon of good vanilla, not flavoring, but actual vanilla,
and one in three quarter cups of all purpose flour,
and of course around here, pardon me, we use organic flour,
(01:10:52):
unbleached all purpose, a teaspoon of baking soda, quarter teaspoon
of sea salt, and then one cup of semi sweet.
You could do dark chocolate, whatever you like. Chocolate chips.
I like to use the Lily brand. And so you
(01:11:13):
do a preheature oven to three point fifty and then
you line two baking sheets because this is gonna make
two dozen with parchment paper. So in your large in
a large bowl, and you know you could do this
by hand easy. You're gonna make your melted butter and
your sugar and sugar because we're replacing the brown in
(01:11:38):
the white with three quarters of a cup of raw
hol king until it's just creamy. And then you're gonna
stir in your shower dough starter and then your vanilla
extract and then in a separate bowl, and you really
should do it in a separate bowl. You're gonna mix
together all your dry ingredients and then you're going to
(01:12:02):
add this these dry ingredients over into your bigger bowl.
And then you're gonna fold in your chocolate chips and
do it gently. You don't want to, you know, mix
it too too vigorously. And so I'm guessing from the
size of these scoops, these are probably smaller than hers were,
(01:12:29):
if you want to make bigger cookies, you know, just
make twelve out of the same amount of dough, or
you know, do it this way, and so you're gonna
scoop about a tablespoon ball of dough onto the prepared
baking sheet. And then the one thing that she did
(01:12:55):
do for the ones that I bought was she sprinkled
the top with some coarse sea salt, and Celtic sea
salt does make a fine and makes of course now
that you wouldn't do much, just a teeny tiny little
pants on top of each cookie. And then if you
(01:13:19):
go buy the recipe and make it tablespoon sized balls,
you're gonna cook it for ten to twelve minutes until
it's kind of golden brown and the centers you want
them to still look like they're undercooked, so that you
(01:13:39):
got a chewy cookie instead of a hard cookie. And
that's it. Cookies in a bad joke.
Speaker 8 (01:13:52):
Well, the cookies were good, so we lose Doc Wells
as they say, he's out in the weeds.
Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
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Speaker 8 (01:14:09):
So well so so so anyway, yeah, that's but this
sour dough, I've never heard of sour dough. Charlott, shit,
you know, there's only one kind of cookie, and that's
a chocolate chip cookie. Everything else is kind of make believe.
But that sower dough cookie that sounds really nice.
Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
It was so good that it made me forget that
that box of cookies cost fifteen dollars and.
Speaker 8 (01:14:39):
It was best.
Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
It was decadent. But you know, you're you're eating a
fer minted food, even though it's a chocolate chip cookie,
and it sounds like would taste horrible, but it was
the opposite. I don't know, I don't know how to explain,
and not to mention a little bit of coarse salt,
(01:15:03):
you know, the that she sprinkled on the top was
just like, you know, absolute perfection. But this gal, she's
making sour doughs, cinnamon rolls in these cookies, and I'm like, seriously.
I looked at my husband and I said, can we
move in next door to her?
Speaker 8 (01:15:23):
Oh? Yeah, I didn't. Was a kid growing up, we
never heard of the only time I heard of sour
dough cooking was when in the gold rush in Alaska,
and they always made sour dough bread. And that was
the first sour dough I'd ever I ever had any
till I was probably in college. He just didn't get
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it right.
Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
I didn't have it growing up. It wasn't a staple.
And I can remember I don't know if you've ever
heard of this restaurant. I don't think there's very many
of them, least but in downtown Dallas, and I'm talking
about a stone's throw, you know, away from Deely Plaza,
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so just I mean, it's in the shadows of where
Kennedy was assassinated. But it was a spaghetti warehouse and
they had the sour sour dough bread that it was endless,
and you know, they would bring it out to you,
and you know, the first time I already tasted it,
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I was like, I mean, who needs spaghetti with this available?
Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was the first time I had it.
It was great. And I don't remember it was when
I lived in Minnesota that they a restaurant, Italian restaurant.
But you know, you make your order and they'd go
away and start on that stuff. But they'd bring out
a plate with h it wasn't sour dough bread, but
it was just really buying Italian bread and a little
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side saucer of olive oil and you just get your
bread in an olive oil. And hell, but that was
that was that was enough of a meal for me,
right there. I kept happy with that. You know, that's
good stuff.
Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Yeah, I heard that Olive Garden is supposed to be
coming the Curvel, so that's twenty minutes down the road.
But even still Olive Gardens, it's like text mix. You know,
it's not really Italian. You know, it's not true Italian food.
And no, I mean it's something different.
Speaker 8 (01:17:33):
It's good, but yeah, it's good, but it's not Italian food. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
Right, And so yeah, the sourdough cookies, I've wanted to
find a recipe for that that was as similar and
ingredients as hers was. And I would never have the
courage to say, well, you know, I love your cookies.
I don't want to pay fifteen dollars kind of having
your recipe and and so I'm just gonna, you know,
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play round with until I get it dialed in, you know,
just like I want it. But as far as ingredients
from this recipe I just shared, it's really really close
to her ingredients. So anyways, I.
Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
Would respect probably how she got a lot of her
She just found something that sounded good as she tried
things and tried things until she found one that was
close and that she liked, and then that became hers.
I mean my Italian I did that. You know. They
stuff was passed down from one generation to the next,
but they always changed it.
Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
A little bit, right, Something was always tweaked, just a
tiny little bit. I remember, and I shared this recipe before,
and I've tapped all this stuff up because I wanted
to stay around, and you know, I gave a folder
or three ring binder to my daughter and to my
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son so that they would have these recipes.
Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
But yeah, one that is so.
Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
Simple, and I was told that it came up from
you know, the Depression era, and you just make uh,
you just take ground me and you put salt and
pepper in it, and there's the change. I'm like, no,
I'm gonna add some garlic powder and I'm gonna add
some onion pet and so they have never done that,
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you know, in the Depression era. Just some salt and
some pepper and making some patties, you know, similar to
like a Hamburger patty, maybe a little thicker, and then
you brown them has to be in an iron skillet,
and then you know, you take them out and whatever
little I mean, you're kind of salcne and whatever. A
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little bit of oil is in there. You add some
flour to it, and then you brown that flour. And
here's where the Depression era stuff comes in. You didn't
always have milk, and you might have had dry milk,
but you were saving that dry milk for something else,
or you were saving your milk for something else, so
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you added water. And so this has gone three generations,
you know, three generations I think in my family. And
it's a water gravy. I kid you not. And I
have literally made this for company and they're like, oh,
sit and with a salad and you know, some green
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beans and you know whatever. Just really made it nice.
Oh susy, I've got to have this recipe, and I'm like,
I'm embarrassed to give it to you.
Speaker 8 (01:20:39):
Well, you know, until you said that, I really hadn't remembered.
My mom used to say, you always make beef gravy
with water, and if you have pork pork stuff, you
use milk. So I didn't know that. Well, there he is,
he is, and we just.
Speaker 6 (01:21:00):
Been burning time, you know, talking nonsense.
Speaker 8 (01:21:06):
I've been here, But no, I didn't I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
You always used water if you were making like a
beef gravy.
Speaker 8 (01:21:15):
It makes sense, yeah, yeah, otherwise it gets to be
too sick and it's just not good, right.
Speaker 6 (01:21:24):
It's it's creamy.
Speaker 8 (01:21:25):
I never heard that either.
Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Well, we were talking about you know, right, yeah, we
were talking about a depression recipe. And you know another
one that came out of my past is hot water
corn bread.
Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
And that one is.
Speaker 6 (01:21:49):
Literally coin meal boiling water and salt, and you know,
it's kind of like a mush, but it's a fried mush.
So it's better. Everything's better when it's fried. And so
I can I can remember my kids saying to my
to my mother, grandma, please please make us some hot
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water corn bread. And you know, I'm like, really two
ingredients and you're fawning over her.
Speaker 8 (01:22:24):
I want to ask you, since we're just there, when
hotly cleaned up, your skill is before you re seasoned him?
Did he take them right down to the right down
to the metal on the.
Speaker 6 (01:22:38):
One he did? It was I would say that this
skill it was my grandmother's and I would say it
was probably uh seventy five years old as a watch,
and he did, and it was. It was crusty and
bumpy on the outside. The inside it was perfect. I
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mean the inside. I could put a quarter teaspoon of
butter in it, put an egg in it, and cook
it and it won't stick. The outside was crusty and
bumpy and ugly. And so he took it outside and
he put it in his vice, and the wire wheeled
to it and got all that often. Yes, he did
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go all the way down to the metal because of
how bad it was. And I just seasoned it. I
put it on the old cookie sheet because I had to,
you know, I didn't want to ruin a good cookie sheet.
And I just kept putting, you know, my oil on it.
And at that time when we did it, and we
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didn't eat this stuff, but I always had my grandmother's
words in the back of my head. You have to
season you're a cast iron with chrisco. And so I
bought a teenyld can, the smallest one I could, and
so I would just take a paper cow put that,
bake it. I probably went through the seasoning process three
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times before it was a nice smooth black finish.
Speaker 8 (01:24:14):
Okay, okay, yeah, And I got one of my mom's
skillets it's it's kind of gunky on the inside. And
I thought, yeah, I wanted to ask Susan about you know,
when you take that wire brush on the drill motor
and get that stuff off of there, and how far
down did you take it?
Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
So yeah, and you could use a palm sander one
and and just I mean if it was round, it
was if it was an orbital standard'd be easier than
the square ones or the twinty ones. Yeah, that's true, yea,
And yeah, I mean you can take it down that way.
Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
Okay, okay, good, good. One of these times I'll have
a couple of glasses Scots and I'll give them a try.
Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
There you go, and the wire wheel attached to uh,
you know, a drill works really really good on the outside.
I don't know, you might on the inside, but then
you might want to go up with.
Speaker 8 (01:25:17):
Well, you know though, there's a company right there in
Fredericksburg that sells them, and they might tell you how
to refurbish it. They may have some tricks up their sleep. Yeah. Well,
she hasn't talked about that, and I think she posted
a posted a how to on the web page and
what trum got and I said, looks that lookscept for
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the most that's all. I give it a toy. Well good, well,
guys were at that time. It's anything you want to
close out?
Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
Because he go ahead, Well, I just really you know,
we made lemonade from Lemons tonight. I like it when
we can, you know, defeat the digital demons, so to speak,
and and end up with the show regardless of what
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the world goes as. So I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 8 (01:26:21):
Well, I thought you had to make lemonade from Lemons. Otherwise,
what do you call it?
Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
I'll come on now, it'd be nice. I'm gonna come
up with another joke.
Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
I didn't come up with another joke anytime, you like,
I didn't have any tonight, or I mean I did,
but some of our earlier stuff sidetracked to me. So anyway,
anything else you want to close out before we give
it the bill?
Speaker 6 (01:26:54):
No, and if and if he says no, we got
seven minutes to burn.
Speaker 8 (01:27:00):
Well we'll take care of that. Bell. I'm sure you
got something to close out. Uh yeah, I've uh was
in our local grocers the other day and uh, I've
always liked Shiner bock beer. I just like the dark beer.
It's just nice. And I was looking at and right
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next to it, Shiner Brewery is putting out a shandy
s h A N D Y. I haven't had shandy
since I was in England. And it is beer and
lemon juice mixed. Sounds sounds kind of terrible, but it's
really mighty fine, mighty fine.
Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
Interesting.
Speaker 8 (01:27:48):
Yeah. I saw somebody makes out a summer there with
some lemon up there and somewhere in the East coast. Uh,
this is this is Texas beer with limited it. It's
a really nice summer drink. Sounds good. I've to try that.
Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
Well, you know, Corona with a wedge of limeman. It
is fabulous. Something happens when you go down to the coast,
you know, and then you smell that air and then
there's sand everywhere, and then you're thinking, I gotta have
an ice cold Corona with a slice of wine.
Speaker 8 (01:28:33):
Yep, well, ice cold beer. Is this a wonderful thing? Anyway,
I'm not much on the I p a stuff that
the younger generation came up with. It's mostly like drinking
pure hops, so I haven't been a big fan. I
like dark beer, susy you can relate to like Spotting
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over in Germany. Course you were probably young, but you
were probably still sneaking beer. But Spotting had some great beers,
and I like the German beer. And where else is it? Belsium?
I think because they have the laws where you can
only put certain things in the ingredients and that that's
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pretty cool. But I like a good dark beer, but
not that hoppy. Have you have you tried the I
p as? You guys?
Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
No, I don't really like those.
Speaker 8 (01:29:32):
Yeah, I don't like them at all, but it became
kind of like the cool. Uh my daughter's generation thought
they were cool with that, and then they all had
to have square toed shoes to go with their I pas.
I'm sure we did sillier things, but when you're older
you look at it, it looks so funny. I see
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all the people out there running around now with ammas
and their house shoes at the store. That's cool. See
you know, Yeah, we had laughed you to death. When
I was growing up. We saw that I had a
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football of quick things. Excuse me. We talk about politics,
and I was thinking today one of the things I
don't like about politics is, like, just recently, I forget
what state it was in but they were so proud
of themselves they voted a bill that gave parents parental
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rights with the kids at school. I mean, that's like
the constitutional carry all. That stuff's already legal. And you
try to tell some parent that they don't have parental
rights with their kid in your school, you're going to
have a problem. So that's why I don't like about politics.
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They vote on the stupidest stuff, and then right now
they keep screaming about every once in a while when
there's an unfortunate incident at a school that armed security
could have handled, and they don't want no armed security
for the schools. But the people complaining saying that all
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have private security protecting them. So they are all a
bunch of phonies. And politics is a six six thing,
but we will touch on it as needed. And ladies
and gentlemen, if you tuned in, we're a half hour
shart of the show. We had some technical issues and
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probably on my mixer in We're not sure, but we
hopefully will figure that out. And that's where our producer
in the background scene comes in. He's very good at
that kind of stuff. So I guess we're just about
the time of night. They say thank you so much
for all of you being here and tune it in
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to listen to us. We hope that our topics are
interesting and give you some food for thought, and maybe
teach you something you didn't know, and get you to
ask some questions, and hope for a little bit entertaining.
And since he even had a joke tonight, so pretty good,
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maybe we'll get to pull out of joke. So may
God bless you all with health and happiness and keep
your lives peaceful, free and safe. And as you know,
it is that time of night for good scotch, good cigars,
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and good night things.
Speaker 12 (01:32:54):
The love I've known has always been the most destructive kind.
Guess that's why now I feel so old. Before my time.
Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
Yesterday, when I was young, the taste of life was
sweets rain upon my tongue.
Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
I teased at length, as if it were a.
Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
Foolish game, the way that even breeze may tease a
candle flame. A thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things
I planned.
Speaker 8 (01:33:35):
I always built too LUs on weekend shifting sand.
Speaker 5 (01:33:41):
I lived by night and shunned the naked light of day.
And only now I see how they years ran away
yesterday