Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 7-2-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill, and Producer Steve

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Yeah, yeah, what condition?

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Condition?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Welcome everybody to doctor Kripple's Natural Health Hours. It is
July already, the second of twenty twenty five, and we
tonight are missing Bill again.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
He had made himself a trip to I think to Dennis,
and that's probably numb and tingling and sore and so anyway.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
He wasn't able to make it.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
And Steve, our producer, has been kind enough with very
little time to take that slot and make something out
of it.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
He said he's gonna drag Susie and me in with him.
You never know what that could mean.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Anyway, he got Susie and me and Steve and we're
missing Bill, but we're gonna have to plug along. So
Susie and Steve, you guys like to say, Hi, Susie,
go ahead.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
Good anything everyone, Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Steve somewhere in the background, all right, tonight we're going
to talk about what I see a lot in practice,
or I used to see a lot in practice. I
don't see as much now because I'm not practicing with
the full blown staff in office.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Just a little.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
But anyway, jogging and running versus people that walk, and
even I would say maybe ride a bicycle is in
there with walking. What happens People don't realize the damage
that you're doing jogging or running.

Speaker 7 (04:27):
Some people say I'm going for a run.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Some people say they're running a marathon, but you're really jogging.
Not very many people run run. The only time you
see running is in a sport where you know it's
a track and field that kind of thing, or somebody
run into first base in a baseball game. But other

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than that, you don't see a lot of real running.
But what people don't get and I'll never forget. When
we were in medical school, they showed a film and
slow motion of people running a marathon and how bad
they were tearing their bodies up you could see they

(05:17):
almost had no physical control over the body, especially.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
The longer they ran.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
And a marathon is I think twenty six point two
or three I forget at the moment miles. But when
you saw this, it was scary. I mean you were
just pounding your poor body, the joints and the disk
and your ankles and feet. I mean you just tore

(05:46):
up everything, your knees, your hips. And over the years
the people that ran, I saw a lot of in here,
and they were just beat up.

Speaker 7 (05:59):
And I learned one thing the hard way.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
If you have a neighbor who is jogging and you
offer the advice for free, they will ignore.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
You and keep jogging.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So I've learned to shut up and not offer free
advice because they don't respect you. But I'm telling everybody
it is so much better to get out and walk,
ride a bicycle, swim. These are things that do not
destroy the body. They help with everything. They're good for

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you all the way around, clears your head, keeps your
body tone. But if you want to go jog or
run as it's sometimes called, especially when you're young, you
don't realize the damage you're doing, and then as you
get older, it starts showing up, and we got a
whole generation of people that instead of coming to a

(06:55):
doctor like me and getting healed with things that can
help your joints stay healthy and tell you, you know,
if you're absolutely hard headed gonna run and jog, then
you need to get something like the z coil shoes
that we've talked about before, and they are wonderful.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
They have a.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Spring and it takes sixty percent of the pounding off
your body when you jog, So if you're absolutely gonna
do it, that's the way to go. I've got two
pair of them myself. Years ago, I was not thinking
all that stuff. I was not a doctor. I didn't

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know any of it, and I used to get out
and jog and I used to do it in the
heat of the day and it took its toll. And
then I discovered z coil shoes in medical school. One
of the doctors was wearing them at a seminar and
I had a pair of them ever since, and they're fabulous.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Anybody's interested.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
It's z like zebra and then coil coil and ze
coil tennishues.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
And they I think they look cool.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
A lot of people don't some like the covered version
where you can't see the spring. I think it's cool
seeing the spring, but you know, you have to remember
the very first marathon was I forget the town he
left from, but he ran to marathon because there was

(08:31):
a fire and he was going to get help. And
I think it was twenty six point two miles when.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
He got there and gave the warning.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Then he died because it was too much. And we
were not designed from the factory to get out there
and jog, especially in the heat of the day, with
your feet just pounding the pavement, tearing up your ankles, knees,
eat hips, spine. I mean, it just beats you, unmerciful,

(09:06):
and I'll never forget that video. In medical school, I
think we were in physiology and they showed running the
marathon in slow motion, because if you watch it at
normal speed, it doesn't really mean that much to you
because you can't tell what the body's doing. But you
slow it down and see the pounding the body's take

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and you're not.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Gonna want a jog or run anymore. So the ze
coils shoes.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
If you're hard headed and you're going to keep running,
is to me, the best way to go take sixty
percent of the pounding off your poor body, and you
can jog. But walking, riding a bicycle, swimming, and Susie
does the thing in her pool where she walks through

(09:56):
the pool and that resistance makes her walking a bigger workout,
and that's a good idea. So, but swimming jogging, I
mean a big difference. Swimming you're you're toning the body.
Jogging you're pounding it. Riding a bicycle pretty much toning.

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You've got the cushion of the seat. They all have
little springs and then you've got rubber tires and air,
so you're not pounding your body when you ride the bicycle.
And if you walk, just a wonderful, beautiful thing, and
you can stop as you're walking, you can think and
clear your head. If you're with somebody, you can communicate.

(10:42):
But if you're jogging with somebody, you're not. You're gonna
be breathing too hard and tearing up your body. The
last thing you're gonna be doing is talking. So to me,
jogging running very bad idea. Uh, swimming and.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Walking and riding a bicycle really great.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
And a lot of people say, well, what kind of
products can I take to help maintain and maybe you know,
do some repair if I've done a lot of that.
And you have to remember last week we talked about
you're not allowed to say cured or you can heal
or treat because they got all these government regulations and rules,

(11:27):
And I said back then, it's a good idea to
tell people that this hasn't been.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Approved by the FDA. I don't want them.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Looking at nutritional supplements when they've approved all the vaccines
and the horrible drugs that you see on TV with
all the direct effect side effects stuff. I don't want
them involved in nutrition. But I think people deserve the
right to know that if you're looking for FDA approval,

(11:59):
it's not here. If you're looking for doctors who have
a passion and a craziness for doing the right thing
with good products and want to see you get well
or stay well or heal, then that's what you want
somebody like me for. And I'm not going to tell

(12:20):
you that this product can guarantee that it does this,
because everybody's different. But I can tell you products like
Legoplex one by Standard Process, Legoplex two by Standard Process
very good products to take. I've seen wonderful things happen

(12:40):
with the body, even if it's injured or if you're
just trying to maintain. If somebody comes to me and
they're in bad shape, I usually grab Cataplex ACP, maybe
sometimes Bosualia complex Bosuelia. It's got some wonderful things in

(13:02):
there for the joints and that. But like I said,
i'll grab ACP CATAPLEC ACP by standard process.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
Bosuelia is by Madi Herb.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
It's a very great product, and we have glucosamine Synergy,
which I really like. It has glucosamine to hydrate the joints,
it has Legoplex two in it to heal repair disk ligaments, tendons,
and it has Bosuelia also, so you've got a little

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bit of everything in Glucosamine Synergy and it's made by
standard process. So like right now today, well, yeah, a
couple of days ago, I finished the bottle of glucosamine Synergy.
Now today I opened up a bottle of Legaplex two.
And that way I don't take the same product all

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the time, and you hit problems in the body from
different angles with different tools and see what works best.
Your body's gonna tell you. I say it all the time.
People give you good feedback and tell you what their
body says. Will make you look very smart as a doctor.
So some pretty good products. Z Coil shoes is a

(14:22):
high recommendation, and they're good for walking. I wouldn't use
them for riding a bicycle because they're with that spring,
you might get it tied up in a pedal.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
But walking and if you're if you're a die hard, do.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
You continue to jog at least I know with the
z coil shoes that you're taking sixty percent of the
pounding pounding away from your body. So pretty good products.
And then there are also some things. We've got joint problems,
Like you've got turmeric.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
That's that's a good product.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's in medi herbs line, so a lot of these
things are very good.

Speaker 7 (15:07):
At keeping the joints healthy.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
And we've got some osteo products like oster Plex and
roumaplex on the medi herb side. So a lot of
good choices. If you're going to try to be active
that you need to do a lot. I had a
lot of one fifty the MS one fifty bike riders
years ago, and after that ride, they were in pretty

(15:32):
bad shape.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Because that's to me, that was too much.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Bike riding should be fun and a little exercise, but
when you ride one hundred and fifty miles, that's, to me,
that's just too much unless you have to so so
is he anything?

Speaker 8 (15:54):
So I think the only time you should run is
if you're being chased by a bear or a water monks.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I liked that, Steve, you can jump in and the
comment anytime you like, if you would like, I know
you're busy.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I've always enjoyed rununning. I don't do it anymore, you know.
I mean I did make an attempt at a fifty
mile run at one point in time, and you know,
by the end of thirty five miles, I found out
that I was actually walking faster than I was running.
So I got on the bus and you know, stopped

(16:34):
Running's about it.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, And I was one of those two. I would
go out at the heat of the day and I would.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Run three miles. That was my thing.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
And I start noticing that it wasn't doing me any good,
and I would like you, at the end, I might
as well just walk. And then when I got in
medical school and learned why it was so bad out
and saw the films. I advised everybody walk, swim.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Ride a bike, but don't jog. And if you're a
die hard, get the z Coil shoes. Them.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Z Coil shoes are so cool and so amazing.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
Just for walking. I like them.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I wear them to walk so and I used to
wear them in my office. If you're on your feet
all day, whatever your job might be, they really take
that pressure off and you're not so beat down at
the end of the day just from being on your
feet all day.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So yeah, I don't know. Dog. You know, it's funny
if you think of us as a species, species, a species,
a species, how do you say that word of being
on this planet? If you think about a animal that
was designed to run and run full time, I don't

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know what would you say? Like a horse, is a
horse designed to run full time? It doesn't run full time,
It runs a lot. I mean, I don't think humans
where were designed to run full time? Were they?

Speaker 9 (18:08):
No?

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Susie said it best. Humans were designed to run so.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
You didn't get eaten.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
But I think the smaller animals have the ability to
sustain a long running and they were more adapt to it.
You know, wolves and foxes and hyenas and that kind
of stuff, but not even harses.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Horses.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
You could run a horse and that you could kill it,
but running too hard, especially with a saddle and a
heavy guy on top of it. So I don't think.
I don't think running is ever a good thing.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
And I think in.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
The animal world the only time they really run is
when they're being chased. So Susie summed that up pretty good.
But you'd be amazed that people that would come to
me after years of beating their poor bodies up, and
then they were confused, well, why is all this happening?

(19:09):
And then I explained it and show them and it
made sense a lot of them, even though they quit
running and jogging, they would get the ze coil shoes
and go for walks. I have one lady patient that
she walked eight miles every day, and I said, you're
probably doing too much because the body's adjusting to that

(19:31):
every day, so you're not burning any extra calories or
doing anything like that.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
It needs the body needs a break. So like if
you want to walk or ride a bike or swim
or any of that, even.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
The jogging, you should do that with at least a
day or two in between the next time, give your
body a chance to heal and repair and build back up,
because when you do exercise, we tend to tear things down,
and if you just keep doing that, it's not ever

(20:06):
going to get a chance to heal. So but interesting
and sad to see how many people I saw in
bad shape, and you know, it's really bad today. If
you go to the wrong doctors, in my opinion, you
can be told you need a knee or a hip,

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or an.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
Ankle or shoulder replacement.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
And my experience has been thank God that if I
had an opportunity with good products where to me, we're
just feeding the body what it needs for those joints.
We see a lot of miracles because certainly we can't
say we cured anything, and we can't say we healed anything,

(20:51):
and we're not supposed to say that.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
This is far that, but it sure seems to help that.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
So I've seen wonderful things with the good products, and
a lot of things turned around.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
I had people come to me. I'll never forget this.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
This gentleman came to me and he had two knee replacements, and.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
He was miserable.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
He said in the beginning it wasn't too bad, and
then it got bad, and he said, my daughter and
son in law told me to come to you before
I did that, and he said, I should have listened,
because now it's really painful. We were able to do
quite a bit, but unfortunately a lot of what we

(21:36):
could have maybe helped was taken away and replaced with
something mechanical. And then what they told everybody, this will
be good ten or fifteen years, and you have to
come back in and we do it again.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
They they put me to sleep and stuff in that
holds down my throat and cutting me open, and then
all the misery afterwards and the problems with anesthesia. It
ain't happening. I'm going to do the best to keep
my joints healthy. And I've seen wonderful things happen. And

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nobody that ever came to me and gave us a
chance that was told they needed a replacement, needed one.
Now I had one gentleman that got it anyway, because
we could not go as fast as.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
Getting that knee replaced.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
I mean, it takes a little while to heal when
you've got a lot of damage. So very sad though
I just can't imagine. I had one patient, he had
a twin brother who lived in another state, and the
twin brother called him up and said, I had both
my knees replaced.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
The twin brother.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Down here went and got his replaced. And I've never
understand that. I just I would try anything before they're
putting me to sleep and cutting me up.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
And then I got to rehab and heal that.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
And you know, one of the bad things that I've
seen about post surgery, and this happens a lot, is
when they're finally released and back home, they have urinary
problems and they're the kidneys and bladder and everybody's how
to function from the anthesia. So that's that's never a

(23:31):
good thing, all right anything Steve.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Uh No, not per se Susy.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
Yeah, that's what made my mother go downhill. And yeah,
she was having the urinary problems, you know. To be
fully transparent, she was too heavy, you know, no doctor,
it used to be I think people would say that
they had, you know, weight restrictions, you know that say

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take twenty pounds off and come back and we'll talk
about it. But now they want that money so bad
that they do do it to you know, overweight people.
So I'm I'm completely convinced. I mean, she did have
one new replacement and she never really complained about it
afterwards too much. But the second one was horrible. It

(24:28):
turned and you know, it turned inwards, and she just
she went downhill from there. And you know, I blame
I blame Obama for that, for you know, the Obamacare
passing and then my mother panicking because Sarah Palin said

(24:49):
they're going to you know, ration healthcare and the oldest
or going to be the last to get it, so
too scared. She wanted to get it down before Obama
said no, you can't have it.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
You know, another thing I noticed is nobody wants to
tell you I made a mistake. They don't like to
come back and say I wish I wouldn't have done this,
So you don't you don't hear much of that.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I heard an awful lot of that with knee surgery
back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, I was hearing people
complain about them. Nowadays, I hear people talk about the
blessings of AI assisted you know, robo gutting of their
knees and reinstalling and walking the same day. And I'm like,

(25:41):
I wouldn't let anything touch my knee. But that's just me.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, you made good decisions. And you know, today, even
with AI assisted and all that, people are still suffering
and they still got to get it redone later on.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
I'm sorry, I just it ain't happening.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
So you know, one of the things that they're saying
right now is that there we're gonna have a whole
rash of quote unquote medical students graduate and they're going
to graduate based upon AI. In Chatt GPT, I don't
want them people touching me.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
And like I said, the anesthesia alone is terrible, and
there's so many problems when people wake up. And this
one patient they had two or three months of problems
of not being able to ironate properly.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
He suffered a lot with that.

Speaker 10 (26:55):
So Susie, Susie, I'd just like to say one thing.
All those people that are graduating college and so forth,
the AI doctors, their job's going away, and their job has.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Been morphing our entire lifetime from a practicing physician slash
doctorator person and they're turning into a what's our procedure
for running nose and they they robodoctorate right, if you
go into the hospital, they walk over to a computer
and they say, sniffles, do you cough cough know, okay,

(27:35):
and and then enter and then it goes, okay, here's
your prescription. And then he rolls his computer out of
one room into the next one and he goes sniffles,
and it's so we're not training doctors, we're training data
input specialists, and so so they don't need all that.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Well, yeah, that's that's that's not a lot. I mean,
that's that's the apps truth. The last time we had
anything to do what the emergency room was when my
son got pigc glue in his eye at the job site. Well,
of course, god, my god says that's one of the
things that you know, you can head up there, and

(28:18):
so oh of course it's a scary thing when it
involves your eyes. But I know full well, and I
should have timed it on my phone that he spent
more time with the data input, with the roller around
robot computer thing than he did with a doctor.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
That's painful.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
That's uh, that's a sad thing because if that little
robot thing crashed.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
These guys don't have.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
The experience in the real world to know what to
tell you to do.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
That's bad, you know, Doc. At one point, I was
in the hospital it's got to be five or six
years ago when they first started rolling around with the
portable computers, and my wife was sick. And so he
rolled up with his computer and faced her and looked
over his display and started asking her about you know,

(29:15):
what she's feeling and that. He asked her a few questions,
and he turned around and faced the wall with his
computer and typed a little bit and then rotated his
computer back and then started talking to her. I'm like, going,
is this flipping real? I'm like, what are you doing?
He's going into his own room. I don't know, Psycho.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Yeah, that's not cool. All right, guys, Well we are
at break.

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Time of the year.

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All right, well, we will be right back.

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Over for having a hut.

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Little light shining through the window.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
But we know everything's all up. Some of the.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Makes me del cind go in the jazz fine in
my mind. Some of bees makes me feel fine. Gentlemen,
here's jazz on my mind.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
See the paper in the hand on the sidewalk. A
little music comic comes next door.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
So I walk on up to the doorstep through the
screen and across the floor. Somebody makes me dear bye.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
All right, we are back.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Welcome back to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. It is
July second, and hopefully everybody's gonna have a nice July
fourth and a day off h on the fourth. You
probably should drink a few, but I'm just talking anyway.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Welcome back.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
We've got Susie producer Steve in the background and also
out in front of the curtain for a little bit tonight,
and poor Bill was suffering from some treatment I think
at the dental office, and you know how painful it
hurts even thinking about it.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
So we are back.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
We were talking about surgeries and the after effects and
why it's really rough when you go to get things
like knees and hips and ankles. And I had one
patient they wanted to do in ankle replacement and that's
the only one I've ever heard of that, and I
thought that was pretty crazy, But sometimes.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
People go that route.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
I think some people like being in the hospital and
all that attention.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Not me.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I used to tease somebody in my family that they
were in the hospital so much they had a placard
with their name on the door because it was their
regular room and they were there all the time. And
they didn't think that was funny, but they were there
that much, it was pretty bad. So, Susie, anything else

(35:17):
on zeke Oil's shoes, any of the products that we
mentioned that I used to help keep the joints healthy,
or anything about the surgeries or the replacements, anything at.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
All, Well, I've seen you some really good results from
the glue customing. And what really helps me is is
that tumoric turmic porte. I guess it's called anyways. Yeah,
I like that, And just one little thing. I was
one of those who loved the Reader's Digest, and you know,

(35:53):
I would check out at the grocery store and i'd
catch get the latest one. I don't think I ever subscribed.
That may have, but I can remember a couple of
stories in there that I read about a person that
had undergone surgery, and of course they're under anesthesia and
so they can't communicate, but they said that they begin

(36:19):
to feel the pain, you know, and they were cut
wide open and they could not do anything. They couldn't move,
they couldn't say anything. So there's that, you know, not
being completely knocked out when they're cutting on you.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
Yeah. That, and you know, I'll tell you something else.
I don't like.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I don't like everybody's standing over you and you're knocked out.
I don't feel comfortable with that. I don't know what
people are going to do. I just it's not a
comfortable feeling when you're knocked out and you can't protect
yourself or know what's going on?

Speaker 8 (37:02):
So and what you know? And what the heck does
it mean when you know you right with the sharpion
saying take this leg, not that leg.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
You know, well, unfortunately that stuff has really happened, and
that's it.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
I don't even like to think about that horrible stuff, Steve.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Any horror stories like that that you've heard where they somebody.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Have No, I haven't had my leg taken off at all,
you know, but you know I don't like it. That's
about all I can say. I have some other thoughts,
but I'll hold them for later.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Okay, all right, Well, I know everybody tunes in for
Susie and Bill and our producer Steve hiding in the background,
and I know you're here for the wonderful music and
the jokes. So right now, Susy, don't do that. Right now,
we're gonna throw a couple of jokes out there, Susie.

(38:08):
A couple of these made me think of you, because
you were totally opposite. You're like the only person I
know that, thank god, has not had more than one marriage.
And I think you are so lucky because I don't
know anybody else. It seems like everybody I know has
been through at least one horror story. But anyway, the

(38:31):
lady was asked, what is the secret to a long
happy marriage?

Speaker 7 (38:39):
For you?

Speaker 4 (38:40):
What have you done that you think was the secret
to a long happy marriage? And she said, keep your
husband poor so he can't afford another wife.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
I thought that was pretty good, really good.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
All right.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
One of the one of the golfers, I forget his
name now, he played back in the era of Bobby
Jones and those guys.

Speaker 7 (39:09):
They he said, his uh.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
He went and asked his wife what she would like
for Christmas, and she said a divorce. And he said,
I really wasn't planning.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
On spending that kind of money.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
And let's see what else we got here. Now, this
is the one I really thought about you, Susie, because
you are so opposite.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
They said.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
The lady was such a bad cook, so terrible in
the kitchen that the flies in the neighborhood pitched.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
In to fix the screen door. All right, and here's one.
What's the difference between.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Outlaws and in laws? Outlaw are wanted somewhere.

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Pretty good stuff. I don't care who you are.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
That's just downright fabulous, fabulous good stuff.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Don't make me hit the mute button.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Fabulous, all right, so.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
We got a little extra time to kill. Some of
my experiences is I would get people that injured themselves
from running, jogging, some from the one hundred and fifty
mile bike ride. And most of the time they didn't
understand why. You know, It's like, why can't I do that? Well,

(40:43):
I explained to him that pounding and that pressure and
that damage, and once.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
They see that and figure that out, then they don't
want to do that to theirself, most of them anymore.
It was funny.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
I have a neighbor or next door and one day
he was out there getting to run and I told him,
I said, you know that what that exercise you're doing
is the most damaging to your body. And he looked
at me like I was an idiot because the advice
was free, and he jogged on down the road. So

(41:18):
I've learned no more help for free. Bill told me that,
he said, you're giving this advice and people aren't listening.

Speaker 7 (41:27):
If you had on a.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
White coat and tie or your doctor scrubs and they
had to pay for the office visit, they probably listened
a lot better.

Speaker 8 (41:36):
So what I don't understand, And yeah, I'm kind of
slow on the uptake today, Why would somebody run that
twenty plus miles twenty six miles whatever to warn someone
from a fire and croak? And then they someone came

(41:57):
along and said, wouldn't it be a good idea to
have a sport, you know, named marathon where you run
a really long distance and where the inspiray is the
person that inspiraated Oh, the inspiration of it died from running.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah, I have no idea that that should have been
the check engine light coming on, saying running long distance
bad for you. But no, we turned it into a
sport and and a lot of people, Boy, it's a
big deal. Their time, not so much, just the fact
that they ran a marathon and a lot.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Of people.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Go ahead, finish.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I'm just going to say, you're in doorphins, kick in
and a turn. There's a certain drug like effect.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Oh yeah, I remember that. But isn't it more like
a primate, primitive cultural thing, right? You know, when you
look at running, you'd probably have to say it came
when one kingdom or one group of individuals said our

(43:13):
people are faster than you, and you take your fastest runner,
and you do your fastest running thing and one person wins,
the other one dies or something like that. Right, And
then did they do that in school? Teach them how
to run? They God taught sword fighting and archery, right,

(43:33):
so here here's how to run. But then we get
into modern society with this university education and high school
and all that, and they say, well, we're going to
have to teach you how to run going. Well, look,
I have a brother. He chases me all the time. Right,
why do I you know, I don't know. It seems

(43:54):
kind of crazy, but I thought it was maybe built
around selling shoes, know, Puma shoes. I think was the
first sneakers, is that right? Doc? Do you remember?

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I don't remember which was the first ones, but I
know there was a lot of all and the kids,
the kids would think this, this tennis shoe is going
to make me run faster.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
They were sexy and your feet were green, and it
was it was It's funny. I have a friend that
walks around looking at his shoes. He's one of those
forgive the word shoehors, right, he has like the room
full of shoes and he wears a different pair of
shoes every day, and he just likes his feet in

(44:42):
shoes and well, I mean it's interesting. I'm nothing wrong
with it, but people do have these shoe fetishes. I
guess I don't know, and that's that got to go
along with running, because you needed at least pretend to run.

Speaker 7 (45:02):
I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
And the thing I remember the most as a kid
was certain shoes were advertised that make you look cool
and you would be able to run faster if you
had them. But these e co oils that I'm talking about,
I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Yeah, they haven't put.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
A picture up already. They some people like me like them,
and other people I've had.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
I've had some women patients tell me I'm not wearing that, right.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, I did put a picture up just a while
ago on the screen and they got to say, I'm
going to be one of those. I'm not putting one
of those on you know. That's that's me, It's like,
and I didn't know it was that vain.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
Well, I really like them.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Now they have some that it's closed in so you
can't see the spring, but I always thought it was
cool to see the spring, and I've worn them. I
think wearing them is what really made me like them.
That when I first saw him. I'm not sure if
I liked that or not, but they were so comfortable.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
And what happened.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
We were at a seminar and the doctor teaching was
wearing those shoes, and somebody asked him about them, and
he said, I'll tell you at break, because it's not
part of your seminar. You didn't pay for me to
waste your time talking about my shoes. But if you're interested,
i'll tell you at break. So he told us at

(46:33):
break and how he loved him and he was on
his feet all day like most doctors are, and it
just was so good, and if you wanted to walk
or jog, that was just an added benefit, but just
being on your feet all day.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
So I've had.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
A pair or two for the last twenty five years, probably,
and they usually last me pretty long. Plus I've got
customer orthotics in each one, and the custom arctotics that
I deal.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
With this foot Levelers.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
And they're different from any arthotic I've ever seen by
any other company because they have three arches. Your foot
actually has three arches, and most people sell an arthotic
with one arch.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
Very rare do you see.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Two, and nobody but foot Levelers does three and so
your foot gets so much more support and that's wonderful.
And I do it with a I have a three
D body scanner and you stand on it with your
feet and it does a body scan and it gives
me exact picture of your foot and shows how you're standing.

(47:48):
And then when they make the shoes, they can tell
what to do, what if there's any adjustments need to
be made, and then make sure it's only for your foot.
So pretty cool stuff. And the e coils are cool.
I didn't see the picture because the computer that I'm
trying to look that up on is still acting stupid tonight,
ladies and gentlemen. I'm using my other machine, which is

(48:13):
Windows eleven, because this other one over here is not
playing nice. And I was telling Steve and Susie a
little bit, but I won't say the name of the company,
but I want you guys to know this kind of
stuff happened.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
I had this company, and Steve and I were talking
the other day and I said, you know, I've had
them for years and they've been pretty good. Well, just
recently the VPN and their little support package was going
to renew and one of them was going to renew
the first of this month.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
And the other one like nine or ten, and so
I made sure that PayPal.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Wouldn't do an auto renewal because I wanted to talk
to some of somebody and see if I can get
the best deal. Well, as soon as I stopped that
auto renewal, evidently they put canceled that same day like
I had canceled the support, and my computers start acting

(49:22):
really weird, really slow. It wouldn't let me run scans,
it wouldn't let me do anything hardly. So I struggled
with it, and I talked to him. I wasted probably
seven hours of my time in the last two days,
and then I noticed that they.

Speaker 7 (49:42):
Could not help me fix it.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
They kept they try something, and then if that didn't work,
they go do something else, or they not get back
to you. So the customer service part really went downhill.
The guy trying to do direct graffic was a nice guy,
but texts and people that were supposed to follow up
didn't do very well. So finally I had enough and

(50:05):
I talked to Steve, our producer, and said, do I
need any of this?

Speaker 7 (50:10):
What do you use? And he said, you know, Windows
Defender is great.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
In some computers they call it Windows Security whatever, but
Windows Defender is a common one and.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
It's there.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
So I went in with Steve's suggestion and I start
uninstalling all this stuff. But in the process of this today,
once I canceled the other auto renewal, they contacted PayPal mysteriously.

(50:45):
They're not going to admit they did this, and PayPal
locked my account. And when I called and finally got
a hold of first, I thought it was a scam,
and I talked to Susie and we decided to try
to call So I called him and it turns out
that there was an amount in a transaction that they

(51:10):
were concerned about or whatever it put restriction. So they
put this restriction, and their way to solve it was
asking me to upload a picture and tell them a
little bit about my business.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
So that didn't sound very good.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
So when I called them, they said, no, we really
don't need any of that. We just have to kick
this upstairs and let them analyze it.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
Because that thing, and so then I knew what happened.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
This virus company, because it was being paid through PayPal,
must have the connection and the stroke to shut me
down to punish me because I canceled because their customer
service was so bad.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
They couldn't fix nothing, They couldn't help me at all.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I got more information from Steve in two or three minutes.
Then I got from them in seven hours. And unfortunately,
when you call them a lot of times, the phone
hangs up automatically.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I can do that too.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Yeah, and then if you ask a question somebody don't like,
they hang up on purpose. So I won't be doing
going down that road anymore. And when we get some time,
Steve's gonna remotely access this and see if you can't
figure out what all they did to me.

Speaker 7 (52:26):
But right now it's been a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
So I had to use the other computer, and uh,
it's working just fine, So thank god for that.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah, it's always good to have a backup. Yeah, or ten.

Speaker 7 (52:41):
Or ten somebody told me that. Trying to remember.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Oh Frank over at American Voice Radio, he used to
always say that the secret is lots of backups because
you never know when something's going to crash.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Plans upon plans.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Yeah, that's a good thing, But you know, I was
really surprised. I guess I was naive to think that
when they fail you, they would still punish you. You know,
I figured they would feel bad that they didn't live
up to their end of the bargain.

Speaker 7 (53:18):
But they're real good at taking money from people.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I don't necessarily think they were trying to punish you.
I think that their process was highly impacting you. But
I think you didn't matter.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
So yeah, I know I didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
It's like, okay, I was.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Kind of like the guy who wrote a book about
string waiting to go on Johnny Carson.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
That's a great book, by the way.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Us, Susie, you had some things that are really cool
that you were putting out in the market.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
You want to tell her everybody about them?

Speaker 8 (54:01):
Well, no, not really, but I will. Yeah, we're just
you know, when you've been married forever, you accumulate and
you know, best laid plans. So we bought a nineteen
seventy Mustange body in Glade Water that's East Texas, Oh, no,

(54:25):
fifteen years ago, maybe more, for seven hundred and fifty dollars.
So the fake ones, well, I'm not gonna say fake.
The reproduction ones are selling for like seventeen thousand, five
hundred and so we've got we've got the real deal.

(54:46):
It's in red primer, inside and out. It's it's ready
for someone, you know, to to do whatever they want.
Our intention was, don't anyone laugh. Back when we were
gonna do it, you know, nine second cars were a

(55:08):
pretty big deal, and so we had helped this this
guy with more money than since he wanted to build
a Mustang and turn it into a beast, you know,
nine second car. And so when that went away because
his wife got tired of the you know, the MasterCard

(55:32):
Gold cars cards being maxed out on a race car,
we just went and got one. And like I said,
it was seven hundred and fifty bucks. And so, you know,
they're pretty pricey right now. They're they're kind of hard
to find. If you wanted to reproduction. You know, there's
places that do it. A few you know, you could
drop seventeen thousand, five hundred plus shipping and get one.

(55:56):
So you know, if anyone's looking for such a thing,
it's straight all the way around. No no dance whatsoever,
no recks. Just just go to dotcriper dot com and
go to contact us and and send an inquiry, you know,

(56:18):
just say, you know, let susy know, I want to
talk about the mistake. Doc will get it to me.
But the other thing that I'm a little bit more
excited about is a pair of JBL speakers. They're considered
and I'm not saying this, this is this is what

(56:39):
the community says considered. Holy grail. They're are forty forty
three forty five series actually pro series, and those about
the only thing that's any let any more than that

(57:00):
is al JBL Paragon from nineteen fifty seven, and it's
those suckers. If you can find one, they're about twenty
five thousand dollars. So the interesting thing is it's been
really really hard because these are rare to find any

(57:22):
kind of comps on it. And so, you know, my husband,
being this smart dude he is, he called he called
JBL and and talked to a couple of really nice
people there. And they've got to believe it or not,
they've got a historic or historical or archival or whatever

(57:47):
you want to call it department, and so these people
are pretty excited to hear that these exist down in
you know, Harper, Texas.

Speaker 12 (57:56):
And that's that's the other biggie that which it's in
my guest room slash office, and I just need the
space and we need it gone.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
They're huge. These speakers are probably I'm five to nine
and these speakers are probably about chest high, boob high whatever.
Whatever you have?

Speaker 7 (58:28):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Wow, Well two things, Suzy, you forgot you have a
block or a hole motor to go with that Mustang.
And JBL stands for James.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
What was it? I'm trying to remember the.

Speaker 8 (58:47):
Land Lancing, Lancing is the last.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Lancing is the last name.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
And they're from Steve's old stopping grounds, California.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
Yeah, and you know, we talked nearly every about bad
customer service and these people were so fabulous to talk to.
Holpy was in shock. And there is there's a chance
that on JBL in California may want to buy these.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
That would be cool. Well what about the engine blocker?
Do you have the whole engine?

Speaker 8 (59:21):
No, No, it's just a block. It's a four sixty.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Okay, that's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
When you're buying a Mustang, it's already got the block.
I don't know how expensive to add the rest of that.
I'm sure Steve does, but it's pretty cool when you
got you're buying an original nineteen seventy Mustang and you've
got the four sixty block.

Speaker 8 (59:46):
And you know, I was looking at him online, and
this is what makes me want to keep it, you know,
and mortgage my house to the hilt. These cars when
they are you know, full old body restoration, and you know,
I know they're bad to the bone. You know, you could,

(01:00:07):
I don't know, it looks like you could lick the car.
They're selling for about two hundred and thirty five thousand
dollars on online.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
Wow. Well, I love Mustang.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
I always was a Ford guy and Mustang was.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
A great, great car. So pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
All right, guys, Well, we're at break time again, so
I guess we'll do that. And when we come back,
we're gonna bring our producer, Steve from behind the curtain
and he's gonna take over Bill's weekly topic spot.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
So well, will be right back.

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Speaker 6 (01:03:15):
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Speaker 13 (01:03:20):
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Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
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Speaker 13 (01:03:32):
It's a shame when I get feeling better when I'm
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Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
When I'm feeling no pay.

Speaker 13 (01:03:54):
I can picture of remove that a man could make.
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Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
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Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
So all right, we are back, Welcome back to doctor
group of is Natural Health Hours. I have got uh
Susie and myself and we've got our producer Steve in
the background. But he's coming out behind the curtain and
he's gonna fill in for Bill, who could not be
here tonight. We missed him and we hope he heels

(01:04:36):
up from all that uh dental stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
I think he had to go through. It hurts even
thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
So anyway, Steve, take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
All right, Well, you know, what do you actually do
with this? You know, I was thinking about what to do.
You know, it's kind of like I never planned really
a lot of something to do. And I'm not a
health type person, you know. I guess I've been healthy

(01:05:09):
or trying to be healthy all my life, and I've
gone down all the wrong rabbit trails. So I really
wouldn't call myself an expert at anything, but I do
find I do have one interest that keeps coming up
throughout time. And at first I didn't even think about
it too much except how much I didn't want to

(01:05:31):
do it, and that would probably be sleeping. And sleeping
was one of those things that and I still think
it occurs, and I don't understand my my going in
and out of that particular Oh god, what is the
word interest? You know? So when you're young and I

(01:05:53):
see my son and he's young and he has this
fascination of staying up late and being alone in the house,
and I remember that, I really do. And you know,
my sleeping habits have changed as an adult, and now
I'm the sleep burly get up in the middle of
the morning, and so I act like an old person.

(01:06:16):
Well maybe I am old. I don't know, but you
look back, and so you deal with the health and
sleeping aspect. And you know, when you don't get a
lot of sleep, your health suffers, your mental health suffers,
and you can feel it. And when you're asking yourself

(01:06:37):
things like you know, man, I can't think very well.
Then you can go back and go to my sleep, right,
And why is it so hard to sleep? Different times
in my life? I know, I feel like Bill right
now is in there waxing about sleeping. You know, I
can tell when I wake up in the middle of

(01:06:59):
the night and I don't put the time in to
go back to sleep, and I get up and I
do things, and then I was throughout the day. I'm
kind of like wasted. But we live in a modern society.
In our society is a lot different than the past,
and a lot of people will sit there and point
to the past. I did read a book a lot

(01:07:24):
a while back, and I'd like to share that one
with you. It was God back in the day. And
I don't really have a good ability to you know,
let me bring that up. It's I don't know if
I can dig it up real quick. Oh yeah, here
we go. This book was about, uh, it was about

(01:07:51):
a lot of things. It's called following Jesus without Embarrassing
God and it was by a guy named Tony Campbelow
and it's it's very fascinating about how he talked about
the Amish in that and the Amish use of electricity
and how they didn't want to add electricity to their houses. Now,

(01:08:11):
when I read it, I didn't really equate it as
being about sleep, but nowadays I do. But the Amish
leaders in this book that Tony Campbello produced that he wrote,
talked about not bringing power into their house to not

(01:08:31):
upset the rhythm of life. Right. You know, our bodies
have been designed and they have operated for thousands or
millions or whatever you want to call the age of
our cassies of years with the natural you know, we're
not designed to be stalking around with infrared vision and

(01:08:52):
so forth. You go to bed when it's dark, right,
you wake up when it's light. You know, that's kind
of like the natural human thing. But what we've gotten
past that for thousands and thousands of years. So that's
the past. But we're living in the now. You know,
we're one hundred what one hundred and twenty years, one

(01:09:13):
hundred and twenty five years into electrifying our houses. And
of course our generations now like three generations have grown up,
maybe four with power at all times, you know, And
it's kind of fascinating. So we're looking at the past
when we look at this study of the Amish, kind

(01:09:37):
of like looking at sleeping. But there's another books that's
out and I guess this one comes to mind all
the time because it tells us about the future of sleeping,
or maybe the future of not sleeping. And when I
initially wrote read this book, it's a book that by

(01:09:59):
Nazi press and Nancy Kress. Let me get that name
on the screen real quick. Yeah, Nancy Kress wrote a
book about Well, it looks like it's our future and
our future right now. We haven't quite gotten to the
point where we genetically modify human beings. We've genetically modified

(01:10:26):
fruits and well openly genetically modified human beings. When they
have right, little tweak there, little tweak here, I don't know,
they'll deny it, left, right and center. Nancy Cress's book
Beggars in Spain postulates that society will get to a

(01:10:46):
point where gene mods are the norm and we see
that today with our you know, there are flint knives
and stones. They call them crisper. It's a gene splicing tools.
A few years ago they started doing these mRNA injections.

(01:11:07):
You all remember that, you know, old trumpulators working on
making a supercomputer and AI model to you know, make
custom subs prescriptions for your vaccines and whatever the hell
they're going to make for you. But Beggars in Spain
already covered this in Nancy Cress's book, and they went farther.

(01:11:31):
There's other books. Gatika comes to mind, where they started
manipulating the human genome to create specific traits. But in
Beggars in Spain, when they got done all being six
feet tall, blonde eyes, blue hair, whatever, you know, whatever

(01:11:54):
they designed. What's the perfect human? I'm not too sure.
But when they got done with that, they found that
there was a genome for sleeping, and somebody had the
bright idea to shut off sleeping. Now today we're told
lots of things by lots of people in our reality

(01:12:17):
about sleeping. We're told that, well, here's good fiction, right.
You know, Winston Churchill during World War Two he would
sleep fifteen minutes every few hours and I'm like going, Okay,
that was what they call propaganda, right, he would be
completely nuts if he did that. Well, you could argue

(01:12:42):
he was nuts, right, But I wasn't there, so I'm
just arguing he was nuts. But we do believe that
there's some chemical changes that happen in your body as
you deprive yourself from sleep. Well, in Nancy Cress's book
Beggars in Spain, our society got to a point where

(01:13:04):
it genetically modified the body to not require sleep. And
in fact, they got to the point where the bodies
just grew to our ultimate age and stayed there and
you never got old, so and you didn't have to sleep.

(01:13:24):
That was a traumatic point from the separation of the
one species, because you know I do in species again,
that's horrible, from humans actually modifying themselves and turning into
something else. Having your first baby and having it never sleep, Wow,

(01:13:46):
that's crazy. But I don't know what we know about sleep,
and I find that it's one of the first things
I talked to or I thought about when Doc was saying, hey,
you want to do Bill's spot, I have. What I
really want to do is sleep. But you can't really
do that in modern day modern world. I don't live

(01:14:09):
in you know, the Amish country where you know, I go, Nope,
can't do it, duck, it's going to be dark by
that time. And no, it's summertime, so it's not dark.
But I can't do a lot of other things that
people that just will maybe I don't want to, you know,

(01:14:32):
get good sleep. So nine o'clock at night, and this
one I'll throw to you, doc. You know, do we
sit there and go to bed as soon as the
light goes down and turn off all the lights everywhere.
I hear that that was a trend before the Internet game.
The Germans were starting to build houses with no lights

(01:14:55):
in the bedroom and such, and you know, it's just quiet,
peaceful place. But that all changed, and I'm not too sure.
Sleep seems to be one of the big things I'm
interested in talking about. Or I don't know, maybe it's
a stupid subject. No it's not.

Speaker 7 (01:15:15):
What do you think, doc, Well, I think it's a
great subject.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
And there's been a lot of studies on sleep and
hormonal balance. And like you said, people that work shift
work and don't get normal sleep or try to sleep outside.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
And one of the things that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Is They said when they did the sleep studies that
men need to be in bed by about ten o'clock
at night, and women could go to eleven and if
they went past those times and they suffered the next
day for it. And they talk about the hormones and
the chemistry. Cart Isol supposed to drop at night so

(01:15:59):
we can go to sleep, and melanom the melatonin from
the panel gland is supposed to be low at that
time or higher at that time, and then lower in
the morning, and then cartisol rises in the morning. And
so when these things are out of whack, then you

(01:16:20):
don't sleep good. And a lot of people will wake
up and instead of lay there and try to go
back to sleep, they will get up and then their
cycles kind of screwed up. But what happens to a
lot of people the liver is going through kind of
a recharged detox at around three o'clock in the morning

(01:16:42):
for most people, So that can wake you up. Most
people say, well, I had to get up and go
to the bathroom. Usually you don't. The bladder can go
longer than eight hours without you having to get up
and empty it. But what they found a lot of
times it's interrupting people sleep was blood sugar. Blood sugar

(01:17:03):
dropped and they woke up and they couldn't go back
to sleep. I just had a patient I talked to today.

Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
That was staying up real late.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
It used to be cool, like you said, for your son.
For kids, it was cool to say up late as
you can. And this person is not a kid. But
they found themselves falling asleep watching TV and then getting
up and going to bed around midnight, and then waking
up early and just get up. But I suggested that

(01:17:40):
we take some minchecks, which is a natural mineral tranquilizer,
and I said, just try one for bed and tell
me what happens. And they called me and they said
I slept seven straight hours. That one little thing for
them was like magic. But I might give it to
somebody else and not do that. But I I do
think that it's a very interesting subject. I'm kind of

(01:18:04):
thinking I was cool. He read those books. I know
people that could sleep no matter whether the lights are
on or the TV's on, None of that bothers them,
And then other people such light sleeper.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
Give you an example, the other night, one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Of the smoke detectors was beeping.

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
Well, me and the dog and the cat. The dog
and the cat. I think we're.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Afraid they heard it. I heard it, but the other
people sleeping did not hear it. So here I am
at one point thirty in the morning getting the ladder
and putting the battery and a smoke detector because I
can't sleep with that thing beeping. So everybody's going to
be a little different. And it's funny, Steve, you mentioned

(01:18:54):
about Winston Churchill. I had a friend that he called
those power naps, and he would take a ten to
fifteen minute power nap and he was good to go.

Speaker 7 (01:19:06):
So everybody's different.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
We call it nodding. And I had a customer who
had a manager that would do that. You'd be in
a meeting with him and he'd pass out, and it's like, whoa,
oh crap, what's wrong with dude? Man? It's okay, he
does that all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Johnny, Yeah, there's a problem there.

Speaker 7 (01:19:32):
That's something that needs to be looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Uh huh for sure, Suddy.

Speaker 7 (01:19:38):
How about you do you mind if we wake his.

Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
I'm awake. Unfortunately. Oh. I was talking to it for
a last earlier this week on.

Speaker 9 (01:19:51):
The phone and it got silent and you know, we
were talking about business and animals and whatnot, and all
of a sudden, I'm like, are you still there?

Speaker 8 (01:20:02):
Can you hear me? If you hear me, I can't
hear you. I'm gonna hang up. So about forty five
minutes later, my phone rang and he's like, I'm sorry,
I'll fell asleep, and I said, thank you, I'm hanging
up on you now. So you know, it's uh part

(01:20:23):
of what Stephen was talking about, you know, sounded like this,
you know, transhumanism crap. You know, I don't even need
an alarm clock because I need eight hours of sleep,
you know, not seven hours and fifty nine minutes, and

(01:20:45):
I wake up exactly eight hours and I do them
in check every night. I also still do I don't know,
you know, maybe about six ounces, probably of the raw milk,
because you told me the protein, you know, helps helps
me go to sleep. So that's mine, not cap But

(01:21:11):
I'm with you. I can't do noises, and I can't
do the little led glowing lights anywhere in my bedroom.
I mean, the King khaniest light on the handset, on
the cordless on the other side of the bed. I
gotta turn that toward doesn't face me, and you know,

(01:21:34):
I've got the dark out shades in the bedroom. And
you know, I can remember as he was talking about this,
I could remember if it wasn't August, you know, if
it was decent weather, the power being out, no power,
nothing's powered, nothing in the house, and sleep like a baby.

Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
That's pretty cool. I thought I heard Steve snoring.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I don't snore anymore. But you know that's just a rumor,
you know when you say said earlier sleep studies and
all that other stuff, And I just have a really
hard time with any study that comes out nowadays, since
I see that most of the studies that come out
are biased. And I can understand that some of those

(01:22:23):
may not be biased, but you know, for particular reason,
there's a lot of people that are doing a lot
of these studies for profit, because our medical industry is
for profit. So at one point, I was snoring an
awful lot. And heck, I had a phobia at one

(01:22:49):
time because my girlfriends would say, you snore too loud,
And I had a girlfriend break up with me for
my snoring, and I had a little I don't know
what they call, you know, I was afraid of the
fact that I'd be alone for the rest of my
life because I snore. And I'm like, going, oh, poor me,

(01:23:10):
and you know that wasn't true, but just snoring itself.
I checked in well, I went to the hospital. I said, hey, doc, right,
you know I'm snoring. They're like, here's a you know,
we got a sleephouse. You got an appointment in six weeks,
and I'm supposed to check into a sleephouse and where

(01:23:32):
they put me in a strange environment with cameras everywhere
in microphones and you know, hooked me up to all
this damn crap and stick me in a floor in bed.
I'm like, how the hell am I supposed to sleep there?

Speaker 8 (01:23:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Was I just just go over there and that that's
not my environment? And I did never I never did
end up going to that one. And nowadays they have
these home sleep tests. I guess they checked out a
pack of sleep of sleep sensors or something, and then

(01:24:06):
they send you home and then they say, yeah, you
need this thing stuff down your mouth when you sleep
because you are going to die. And here it's covered
on insurance, and so it's a scam. I don't know.
I don't trust a lot easily.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Yeah, I agree with you there. One of the things
that I've seen over the years is sometimes there was allergies,
asthma and the heart all involved, and why.

Speaker 7 (01:24:39):
Somebody was snoring.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
And when we address those things, a lot of times
that went away.

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
So you never know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Again, everybody's different and what works for one person may
not come close for the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Well, before we go to break, Susie, when you were
talking about being on an operating table and having people
standing around you, I was thinking at that time about
all the different sleeping people that I've been with in
my life. You know, we'd have some blackout sleepers like

(01:25:17):
you that require pure darkness. There's the fan people, there's
the TV people. They sleep well, I have to have
the TV on in the background to go to sleep.
And you know, just think about that. They're they're drugging you,
and they're they're putting you under and your senses are

(01:25:38):
still going for the most part, I do believe, and
so they're getting subconscious. You know, you ever try to
to sleep with a fan person if they're fans broken, Now.

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
There's an app for that, you know, I could use
my little fan. Actually, well, God is one of those
turquoise retro fans, you know, the kindie don't have around
children and pets, and it's it needs it needs some

(01:26:14):
motor work. So I found a little one. It's a reproduction,
and I could literally almost sleep with that year around. Well,
how many can't. I've even in the wintertime taken it
and turned it around where it's facing the wall so
I could hear it. But you know, if he complains

(01:26:36):
too much, I turned that. Well. I've got one of
those those static noise little contraptions where I can have
like ocean waves or rain or fan, so I can
put that on. And yeah, not only am I completely blackout,
I gotta have my fan.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
See you're a blackout fan.

Speaker 8 (01:26:57):
Person, blackout fan, yeah person.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Okay, wow, wow, that's great. You know, I don't know
what I am.

Speaker 7 (01:27:08):
I like having a ceiling fan. I think that's nice.

Speaker 8 (01:27:12):
But it doesn't make that sound.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
No. I have a I guess it's an ionic re
It was some kind of an air filter thing and
it has real dim light, you condemn it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
And I run that at night to keep the air
circulating and clean. And it makes a little noise, so
that might help, but it don't take much noise like that.

Speaker 7 (01:27:39):
Little beeping.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Smoke detector ruined my middle of the night, and the
poor doggie was scared, and the kiddy cat was scared.

Speaker 7 (01:27:49):
Say, you can.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Imagine getting up at one o'clock in the morning or
one thirty changing a battery and a smoke detector not.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
From you know.

Speaker 8 (01:27:58):
What's difficult for me is well, you know, I live
in a rural area and the sky is dark, you know.
And one of the main reasons I got the dark
out shade was not for lights outside, but when there
was a full moon, I kid you not, the moon
would shine through my window with the curtains and irritate

(01:28:21):
the crap out of me. And so when I go
to Dallas, and it's not very often, you know, I went.
I went, I don't know, some time ago, a few
months ago, several months ago, to a funeral. And so
I booked a hotel that was really close to the
service so I could get up, go service, check out,

(01:28:44):
get in the car leaving, go home real quick. And
so yeah, this is what you get, you know, for
getting a really decent a decent hotel, but a cheap room.
And so I walked in and I opened up the
curtains and said you've got kidding. Interstate six point thirty five,

(01:29:04):
which is kind of a big deal in Dallas, is
just right outside my window. And I'm like, now, I'm
going to be more careful next time I book a
room up there. But you know, staying at my brother's
house or whatever, and you can see the lights outside
and you can hear all the traffic and I'm like,

(01:29:24):
just bonk me over the head.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
That's the pain. The pain.

Speaker 7 (01:29:31):
All right, guys, Well we are at break time.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Steve.

Speaker 7 (01:29:35):
Good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
I really like this when you fill in. You've come
up with some really creative stuff to talk about. We've
got to bring you from up behind the curtain a
little more often.

Speaker 7 (01:29:46):
All right, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
We've got Susie, she's getting ready to do her recipe stuff,
and we've got Steve filling in the night helping out
both his regular job, doing double duty. And he did
Bill's weekly topic and it was an interesting topic on sleep,
pretty good stuff. So anyway, this is the time of

(01:33:37):
the night where I always help Susie with the name
of the company because well, let's just face it, she
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Texas where there's rattlesnakes and tumbleweeds in their rain and
and moved down around College Station, and you know, so
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to do their job. It's been two weeks and they
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AD meant that that she paid them some money. So yeah,
it's sad. Uh, that's never happened to us. We've got,
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(01:35:05):
real honest to get inness website and family owned business.
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Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
Yeah, and ladies and gentlemen, if you go to that
website and you scroll down, you will see the lovely
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Speaker 7 (01:35:31):
Packing mama who can cook.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
And a little further down you will see Steve standing
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So we got both of them on the website and
you can contact all of us through there.

Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
You can get Bill, Me, Seve or Susy. Just go
to contact us and we'll make sure we get back
to you. All right, Susy, take it away.

Speaker 8 (01:35:57):
I'm hungry, okay. You know, the last couple of weeks
we've talked about fermented foods, and you know this, we've
talked about money saving, stretching your budget. But you know,
sometimes it gets really hard to find, you know, another

(01:36:22):
a good tasty chicken recipe, and uh, this is one
that that we like, and it's it's pretty simple. It's
just four chicken breasts and it is uh eight ounces
of cream cheese softened, and then a cup of cheddar

(01:36:44):
cheese and let's see, a teaspoon of garlic powdered, teaspoon
of onion powder, eight slices of bacon. That's just why
this is perfect, and some toothpicks. And so I think
about the only thing I would personally change about this is,
you know, I love kalapenno poppers, and aside from the chicken,

(01:37:07):
this is basically you know, jalapenia popper ingredients. So you know,
you could do one, maybe two kalapennios, depending upon how
hot they are, and we've been fortunate this year the
ones who are growing are not terribly hot. So you're
just going to preheat your oven to three seventy five

(01:37:31):
and so that you get you know, the chicken cooks
evenly and the bacon becomes crispy. One of the things
I like to do when I do poppers is go
ahead and put my slices of bacon on a parchment sheet,
put it in the oven, and then cook it about

(01:37:52):
halfway through. And that way you're not going to have
you know, I just like crispy period. And so while
your chicken cut, while you're while your oven is heating up,

(01:38:14):
in a medium bowl, just combine that softened cream cheese,
the cheddar cheese, your seasonings and salt and pepper, and
then you know, if you want to add the chopped
up jalapeno dye small, that's when you would do it.
So you're gonna take and lay your your chicken breast out,

(01:38:38):
you know, on your cutting board, and then you're going
to I'm kind of OCD when it comes to chicken.
I like to trim off the ugly stuff and you know,
towards just nice pretty white piece of meat. Well, it's
pink at that point. So if you lay your chicken
down flat and put your hand on the top of it,

(01:39:00):
you can take a nice file at nine or whatever,
something sharp, and then make yourself a horizontal slit and
then just eyeball your mixture and divide that amongst you know,
the four chicken breast, and then wrap it with the
bacon and then secure it with the with the toothpicks.

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If you pre cooked your bacon and you've already got
you know that that good bacon grease on your cookie
sheet with the parchment on it, just lay the chicken
right back on it and put it, you know, in
the oven, and it takes about twenty five ish minutes.

(01:39:49):
You probably shave some time off of it, maybe five
minutes if you did pre cook your bacon. If you don't,
about thirty minutes. And you just need to make sure,
you know, with a thermometer that that your chicken has
reached one hundred and sixty five degrees and then you know,

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take it, put it on a platter or whatever, and
it let it rest a little bit. You know, if
you cut right into it's kind of like a steak.
You're supposed to let it sit. Same thing with this dish.
Let it sit for a little bit. It doesn't have
to be long. And the stuffing on the inside, the
cheese and cream, cheese and whatnot, kind of sets up

(01:40:36):
a little bit instead of running all over the place.
And then again, you know, if you don't care, then
you know, dig in. But like always, I take these
recipes and I put them at doctor Cripple's Natural Health
Hours at Rumble, and I put them in the comments section.

(01:40:57):
It stays there so you can refer at. And just
because Doc scolded me and I don't like to be scolded,
I put a link in there to zekeoil dot com
as well. It's all I got.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
Yeah, I scolded you. I'm going to reach you to
the phone and scold you.

Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
Setty uppy, shetty huppy. I love it using my own
words against me. Hey, you know that was the rest.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
We sounded really good and I liked that idea. I
didn't even think about it with chicken, but they say
that steak, and obviously with chicken is when you let
them sit there for a little while they're still cooking,
they are and uh, that's part of the reason you
do that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:44):
I did not know that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
I was watching American Test Kitchen, and I love the
show when they test equipment, knives and blenders and different equipment.

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
I think that's so cool, pans all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:42:00):
So I just I'm glad you said that, because, you know,
if you were to check the internal temperature, and let's
say it came to one sixty, go ahead and let
that chicken set a little while, especially if you kind
of maybe loosely. I don't like to use aluminum fool.
I don't cook with a luminum fool. But if you

(01:42:22):
wanted to make just like a little tint over it,
that that helps it, you know, to continue to cook
on the inside. So I would rather stop it at
one sixty, do that aluminum full tent, and then check
it again and make sure that it at least hit

(01:42:43):
the one sixty five. And that's what we do with
the steaks. We see them pretty hot both sides, probably
to the point of rare. Then we put it on
a platter, and then we make that aluminum full tint
and by the time it set several like ten minutes,
it's medium.

Speaker 7 (01:43:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Well, what they showed she checked it with that cool
little digital thermometer and whenever she was cooking, it was
eighty five degrees and they let it sit for ten
minutes and came back it was one thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:43:16):
There you go, that was cool.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
You know, we don't talk about a lot of politics
on here, but politics gets into everybody's life.

Speaker 7 (01:43:24):
It gets in your healthcare. You can't avoid it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:28):
And I am one of those that I think it
is become so corrupt the everybody goes to Washington and
they end up being worth twenty or thirty million dollars
making one hundred and seventy five thousand a year.

Speaker 7 (01:43:42):
We all know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
That's a line of bull But I was watching today
and they've been having this trial on p Diddy. Now
I think he ought to be in prison just for
making that horrible music, but that's different. I would not
call rap music good music. It's something that has never
grabbed me at all. But they've had him locked up

(01:44:08):
without a trial till just recently. And the last time
I remember the constitutional stuff is you're entitled one to
a speedy trial, two to a jury of your peers,
which is probably hard.

Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
To find in his case. And what's this deal?

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Because he was famous and he's rich, so they decide
to lock him up and not let him out of jail.

Speaker 7 (01:44:36):
Until there's a trial.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
That's treating him as guilty until proven innocent. And I
don't care what you've done or who you are, you
don't deserve to be treated that way, especially.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
In this country, and that's wrong. I know maybe they
don't like his music.

Speaker 4 (01:44:55):
I don't either, but you don't stay in prison, locked
up or in jail until they get around to decide,
and they want to have a trial. All them people
making those decisions, they get to go home at night
to their families, have a nice dinner, sleep in their
own bed, take a shower, go out to dinner, do

(01:45:16):
things as a family.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
And he's locked up and put away and no trial
for a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:45:25):
I mean, I don't remember. I think it was over
a year now, And to me, that's wrong. And they
did it to the January sixth people. And I love
hearing the Democrats talk about that, and even some of
the Republicans.

Speaker 7 (01:45:40):
The insurrection. They showed most.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
Of those people walking around with the Capitol Police Department
like they were on a tour. They didn't know they
were breaking a law. And now they're finding out that
a lot of that was set up and planned.

Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
So politics is really disgusting.

Speaker 4 (01:45:59):
In a lot of the people that can hurt you
get to go home at night and live a good life.

Speaker 7 (01:46:05):
And I think that's wrong. If you're if you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
Go by the constitution, none of this stuff needs to
happen that way. All right, we're at that time of night, guys, Steve,
if you got anything you like to close out with,
throw it out there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
No, I'm good, all right, Bill, all.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Right, Susie. You know, Susie, I gotta tell you, your picture.

Speaker 7 (01:46:33):
With that smile is so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Even when you're not doing good or feeling good, the
picture is still smiling.

Speaker 7 (01:46:39):
I like that, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:46:41):
I was looking at that going I wish I felt
like that last couple of days.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
Well, you've been through a lot of rough times. Unfortunately,
life is full of stresses, and in this modern era,
there's more stresses than there used to be, and it's tough.
But that's why we have friends, and that's why we
do the radio show.

Speaker 7 (01:47:06):
We try to reach out and help people.

Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
And I think the radio show is good therapy for
all of us, no matter what's going on.

Speaker 7 (01:47:14):
I think when we do the show, we all benefit
and it's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
Knowing that a lot of people out there are listening
and we get a chance to connect with them, and
that's pretty great.

Speaker 7 (01:47:25):
So, Susie, anything you want to close out with, well.

Speaker 8 (01:47:29):
It's off topic, but it's bothering me, So I'm gonna
go ahead and bring it that. You know, the fraud
and the scams are on an uprise. It happened to
my husband and I a couple of days ago, which
is weird. You know, normally it's like home owners that
are scammed, and this time the contractor was scammed. I'm

(01:47:53):
not going to go into the details. And then on
the same day, well, and it happened on our anniversary,
so happy anniversary to me. And so it happened to
a dear friend received a phone call saying that this
man saying he was with the insurance company and he

(01:48:14):
was calling to settle, you know, acclaim and about the
accident she had she had been in. She said, I
haven't been in an accident. Oh yes, ma'am, someone hit you. No,
no one's hit me and hit my car and oh yes,
I'm sorry, you don't remember. I'm going to transfer to

(01:48:36):
you to my manager. Well what kind of nonsense? Der
monic crap is that I'm sorry you don't remember the
accident you were in, and so the endgame is and
I know too much about this. You know, Docs helped me,
Steven's helped me, and other friends helped me with it.
They you know, imagine like most Americans struggling. You know,

(01:49:02):
you've eaten through your savings, you've maxed out your credit cards.
You're in a desperate situation, and you're like, well, I'm
gonna go ahead and play this game. And you accept
this check for an accident that you didn't have and
then go and behold. Next thing, you know, they call
you and say, we paid you too much. You need

(01:49:23):
to send us X amount of dollars. Well, you get
a fake check posited in your account and then you
send them back if you do it real money from
your checking account and with a real check. And so
that's you know, that's the scam. And I'm hearing it

(01:49:44):
even today another friend, and it's ramping up. And you know,
Doc talked about his PayPal and you know, not to
go into it too much, but you know, many many
years ago, we got fifty dollars taken out of our
PayPal account. It was hacked and of course it was

(01:50:09):
Christmas Eve, so they do it when they've got some time,
you know, over holidays, well back then. So we talked
to PayPal and they were very helpful and they gave
you the Tael Pale signs. You know that the love
go in the email might not look right, it might
be a little fuzzy. It was you know, created poorly,

(01:50:33):
or the email is not addressing you by name and
say dear customer. That's not that's not PayPal.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
And so you know, my.

Speaker 8 (01:50:45):
Thinking is now and I think I hate AI. I
think it's something that might be a useful tool, you know,
Steven and I use it for the show. But we're
not doing any thing to deceive anyone. You know, I
really am not a lioness with yellow orange hair holding

(01:51:08):
a spatula. Bill is not really a wise oh out,
he's wise, and Doc is not a teddy bear that
wears a lab coat. So I'm kind of I play
the game with that because we're not trying to deceive
anyone unless someone really believes I'm a lioness that holds

(01:51:28):
a gun, you know, and a spacialist. So with AI
being around, imagine how you could create checks and create
logos and make things look so authentic that people would
literally fall for it. And that's kind of one aspect
of what I think is going on there. I'll step

(01:51:51):
off my soapbox.

Speaker 7 (01:51:53):
Well, and you left out one really important part. You
and your husband.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
Figured out the scam before you really got scammed.

Speaker 8 (01:52:01):
That was God protecting us. And it was still a heartbreaker.
And we've got a couple of minutes, so you know,
the listening audience may not even believe, Well, how does
a contractor get scammed? This is how some Yahoo. You know,
if you're searching and shopping for a house, you can

(01:52:23):
get on Zillo and a number of other of these
sites and it's basically got all of the MLS listings,
so you know, you can look at Fredericksburg, Texas and
then look at all the houses that meet your criteria.
So what the scammer is doing from India using a

(01:52:50):
US address out of New York, the Bronx whatever. Maybe
if it's even real and they're looking for houses that
are vacant, they're not owner occupied, and so they and
there's all the pictures. You know, that's what's absurd to me,

(01:53:12):
the pictures of the outside the top the back, you
can do three sixty. And so these evil people look
at houses online in the area that they're targeting and going, oh,
this one only has gravel driveway. It needs a concrete driveway,
or it needs a deck on the back, or it

(01:53:32):
needs a new front porch. And so then in that
area they find contractors in this case at least five,
we weren't the only one and called up and said
I need a price for a concrete driveway. How then
gets in this truck and he drives over there and looks, Okay,

(01:53:53):
this isn't a big deal. So since the guy a quote,
I mean, gives a quote, he writes it up, I
type it up, I email it. Next morning, it's back
in the inbox, and there's been plenty of messages, text
messages in between, and so there's a signed contract. Okay,

(01:54:15):
I'm sending a check. Well, it didn't happen right away.
It happened just before Juneteenth, so we expected that holiday
for it to be, you know, kind of kind of slow.
And then so on the following Monday he said, and
this is not this Monday, but last Monday. Okay, I've
sent it. Here's the tracking number. Well, then when you think, well,

(01:54:38):
there's a tracking number. Okay, there's got to be some
legitimacy to this. Well no, there's not. So anyone out
there thinking, you know, don't ever pay a contractor up front. No,
do your homework. Find a company like ours that's got

(01:54:59):
you know, a Google rating, that's got you know, better
business bureau listing, that's got a real website and phone
numbers and whatnot, and a track record like in our case,
thirty years.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
And so.

Speaker 8 (01:55:14):
He didn't even own the house. He wanted to send
us a check. And like Steven asked me, did he
pay more than you ask for? Well, yeah he did.
But the conundrum here was and what really didn't you
know spark a red flag, was he paid the down

(01:55:36):
payment plus the interim payment. Because that's how legitimate construction
companies work. You know, they've got a down payment, if
it's a big enough job, they've got an interim payment,
and then they got a balance on completion, which means
the contractor and the homeowner stands there and they'll sign
off and they go, yep, looks good, wonderful, We love y'all.

(01:55:59):
Here's the major you know of the contract. So I
just thought, well, it took so long to get the
check here. Maybe he went ahead and did it for
the down payment and the interim because there was only
going to be two days between the start the form
the steel and then pouring of concrete. So I looked

(01:56:23):
at the envelope and he had a Houston phone number.
Shame on y'all down there, doc, and so of course
that was probably fake. That was probably a Google number.
And then the return address on the envelope was from
the Bronx. Then the check inside was written on a

(01:56:47):
bank account from a refrigeration at HVAC company in Minnesota.
Come to find out, the whole thing was bogus. We
did get to talk to the real at her and
she said that we were the fifth contractor that they've
attempted to scam. So all I can say is just

(01:57:08):
be so careful and be so diligent, no matter how
good it looks. Be pessimistic.

Speaker 7 (01:57:17):
Yeah you did good, Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:57:19):
Anything you like to close out with before we start
wrapping it up.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
No, no, no, not at this time, right my Bill?

Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
All right, Well, I can't thank you guys enough, and
with we miss Bill and Bill, I hope you hurry
up and get back because.

Speaker 7 (01:57:40):
We like it when you're here.

Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
But Steve's been kind enough to fill in and it
was interesting stuff. We need to bring him out behind
the curtain a little more often when he can. Yeah,
And uh, Susie has always is a trooper because she's
had a rough couple of days and she still came

(01:58:02):
on and did a great job as always. So it's
it's I think it's been stressful for all of us,
but the show seems to have a therapeutical effect and
I'm glad for that, and we're glad you're here.

Speaker 7 (01:58:15):
And listening to us.

Speaker 4 (01:58:17):
And I know you guys love and appreciate our team
that is together as much as I do. And I said,
without them, the show would not be anything like it is.
It's really come a long way, and we've got a
great team and we're so grateful to you guys listen
all around the world.

Speaker 7 (01:58:38):
It just blows my mind and I'm just in.

Speaker 4 (01:58:40):
Awe and we're just happy that.

Speaker 7 (01:58:44):
You do that far.

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
So it is that time to say thank you and
to say may God.

Speaker 7 (01:58:50):
Bless you all with health and happiness and keep your
lives peaceful, free and safe. At a very very important time.

Speaker 4 (01:59:05):
And Sissy the Doctor has ordered you to have a nice,
big margarita and Steve get out your tequila and it
is time for good Scotch, good cigars.

Speaker 7 (01:59:20):
At good night.

Speaker 8 (01:59:22):
Good night everyone. God bless.

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