Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 7-23-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Producer Steve

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Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah condition condition.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I will cook the small and with the sundown shining in.
I found my mind in a brown paper peg.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
But then.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I tripped on a clouding fell eight.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Miles high high.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I told mine back on a jagged sky.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition
was in.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, what condition? My condition?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Welcome everybody to Doctor Crippis Natural Health Hours. It is
July twenty third, and this month is quickly slipping by.
We've got all of us on here tonight, Susie, Bill, myself,
and our producer Steve. In the background and producer Steve,

(03:04):
I'm hearing a weird almost like somebody hiccup, and yeah,
me too. I don't know what that is. Every time
I hear it, it pops up on the little square it
says Bill, I have anyway, the Bill's your hicc up
and drink some good scotch anyway, Susie and Bill. If

(03:24):
you guys like to say hello, go ahead, Susie.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
Good evening, everyone, Thanks for joining us, and Bill muted himself.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
Are you there, Bill, I think so?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
All right, don't touch the controls, let the let the
pilot fire the plane, Bill, because we're hearing hic I don't.

Speaker 8 (03:55):
Have any controls.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
All right, what's an guys, we're going to talk about
venus insufficiency because our president just got diagnosed with that.
So it popped in my head. And I assure you
that they're not going to do for him what I
could do if he came to me, and I wish

(04:19):
he would. I don't need the notoriety. I don't need
to be patted on the back. I don't need to
be in the news. But I sure would like to
help him. And it's a common problem. And hopefully, if
anybody's listening, send the president to doctor Krupa and let
us fix him up. All right. So what happened is

(04:42):
they said that he went in because his ankles were
swelling and he had some red spot on his hand,
and they thought that was from shaking hands so much. Susie,
are you still hearing that hiccup?

Speaker 7 (05:00):
I hear it, all right. I'm trying to watch the
screen and see if it's coming from Bill, but I
don't think so he's not muted.

Speaker 8 (05:10):
I've already eaten.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I don't know what it is, but I don't see
anything on this end, so hopefully our producer will bail
us out. So anyway, Uh, President Trump having and they
diagnosed it as venus insufficiency, But that could be really
a lot of things. When your ankles start swelling, uh

(05:38):
and lot.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Yeah, doctor, if you can hear me, you are muted.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
Vest he had to do with Greek mythology.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well maybe that too. How I get muted? I never
touched my control. That's really weird. Anyway, I'm still hearing
that echo thing. I hope our producer can bail me
out there.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
He's working on it, he says in chat.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, thank you. So anyway, I don't know how I
got muted, guys, or how much you heard, But what
I was saying is that when you see swollen ankles
and feet, it could be a lot of things. It
could be check valves in the veins, because they're supposed
to let the blood flow one way, only sometimes they
don't do that. A lot of times they'll call that

(06:39):
vericos veins because they swell up because the blood's not
flowing where it should it's going backwards. It could be
the adrenal glands. The adrenals are involved in getting rid
of fluids, telling the kidneys to do that, and that
doesn't always work, so the body gets in trouble. And

(07:00):
then the little check valves and the veins very critical
when it comes to arteries, veins and capillaries that you
have good nutrition, especially natural vitamin C. And without that,
you know, we don't we don't know what's going to
happen to the body because it can't function right. And

(07:20):
so it's going to try its best to still get
the blood into the venus system and back to the heart.
But it may not work, you know, it just may
not do that. So I don't know what they're doing
for President Trump, but I guarantee you we could do
something really good that would probably make a big difference.
I've seen this an awful lot in my career.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
And watch the chat if you can do.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
The chat. Okay, it's not showing anything on my end.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Yeah, yeah, he says it's coming from you, coming from me. Yeah,
so sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
All right, How could it be coming from us if
it's not. Let's see let's see, let's go check the
audio stuff. Sorry, guys, we'll have to take a quick
look here. All right, So.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Bill, I you know I never heard of the system.
I heard of the Solar system, but not the Venus system.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Yeah, well she is. You hang around, trooper, you get
real confused. How comes up with all these terms? Things?
I there's too old for this.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, confusion isn't hard for me these days.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
Yeah, I got not a high point. No, No, I
started out that way. I kind of wanted to figure
I was done with it, but I was wrong. M
how's how are things coming out?

Speaker 9 (09:24):
That?

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Are things kind of getting under control out there a
little bit?

Speaker 7 (09:30):
I think I think they're looking for two more children.

Speaker 8 (09:36):
Oh man, right, man, I just can't imagine.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
It's Yeah, it's horrible. It's just horrible.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
It's horrible.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
And lots of yeah, lots of animals, lots of wildlife,
lots of or bet orphaned. Uh these like raccoons and
possums and injured gear, killed deer. Yeah, it's it's tough.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
Nothing you don't hear about is what that does to wildlife.
Mostly they talk about property and people, but you know,
wildlife is pretty impacted by all that.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Yeah, but doc.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Uh, I don't understand. Okay, now, I see, uh yeah.
Every time I hear the noise, it shines, it flashes
bill up there. So I don't know, but I just
now saw the chat down there, susy. I was looking
at the wrong one, So thank you, so ladies and gentlemen,

(10:44):
I apologize. I don't know what's going on, but I
know our producer will figure it out. And if it's
on my end, I don't know what to do. So anyway,
if you've got swollen ankles and feet, the answer is
not those compression and socks that you see a lot
of people wear. That's not helping anything. The blood gets

(11:07):
back to the heart through the venus system by muscle
contraction movement where the heart pumps the blood it. You know,
the body contracts muscles and that helps get the blood
back to the heart. The heart pumps it out through
the lungs, oxygenates, it sends it around the world and

(11:30):
brings it on back. And so if the venus system's
in trouble and you're pulling that, first thing I would
suspect is adrenals, and then I would suspect the check
valves in the veins. And if those little one way
check valves are damaged that they don't have good nutrition

(11:53):
like natural vitamin sea, then we could see that problem.
So if anybody is listening that knows President Trump and
talks to him, I would love to help. And again
I don't need to be in the news or pat
it on the back or anybody know that I'm doing
it other than those of us that are talking about
it right now. I just like to help the man.

(12:16):
He's done some good things and I like to see
him continue, you know, So that that's not a I
don't just I just don't need all that attention. I
just want to help. So we'll let it go with that.
But anyway, some of the products that I would suggest

(12:37):
is first something like drenomen for the adrenals. And you know,
in President Trump's role a lot of flying, they say
he doesn't get a lot of sleep, a lot of travel,
the adrenals might be shot, you know, they might just
be wore out that fight or flight. And so start
with the adrenals. See if drenaman helps, see if simplex

(13:00):
M helps. And then for the venus stuff, the veins,
arteries and capillaries, vascular care very important. Go to Cola
very important, and bill Berry. Bill Berry is known for
night vision, but it's also very important for this kind

(13:21):
of stuff. And all three of those products are mini
orb And then I would suggest cardioplus and serutoplus. They're
very important and they're from standard process, so you if
you use them, we're gonna know pretty quick because there's

(13:43):
a lot of wonderful healing factors. And if your body's
starving for natural vitamin C H and you put that
in your diet, that's gonna help. But the first thing
I would try would be something for the adrenals and
see what happens, and if it corrects it, then we
know that was a big part of the problem. And

(14:05):
the adrenals use the most vitamin C. So if the
adrenals are having a problem and they can't get enough
vitamin C, then that could cause the swelling because they're
not functioning like they should and they sit on top
of the kidneys because they're talking to the kidneys about
getting rid of fluid. So I am sure, Susie, you

(14:30):
and I have dealt with patients over the years that
we've known each other that we've had this issue. A
lot of times people will call and say it's Verico's veins,
and that's the same thing. It's though the one way
check valve in the veins is not functioning. It's letting
fluid build up the other way. You remember anybody off

(14:53):
the top of your head, Susie or anybody we've dealt with.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
Not off the top of my head. Well as far
as the drenals, yeah, me, you know, it seems like, gosh,
you know, can you believe that the cops invaded our
home based on a swatting anonymous call ten years ago?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I sure can. I remember it all too well.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
So it's like it's been fight or flight for me,
probably about that long, maybe maybe longer, because you know,
we all went to quite a bit of stress when
Barack Obama was in office, you know, and ruining healthcare

(15:50):
and trying to ruin the American family, you know. So yeah,
a long time, and you always have to remind me
this didn't happen overnight. So it's gonna take a while
to turn the ship around, But I can see it.

(16:10):
I think I've heard that Trump sleep somewhere around four
hours a night.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, he does a lot of deals early in the morning.
I don't hear that blip no more so I don't
think it was on my end. Guys.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
No, And we've lost Bill, and I'm assuming Steve's having
trouble reconnecting, like maybe Bill's voicemail.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, I do not know. I finally found the way
to open up the chat and I see all that
stuff in there now and blaming me all the time.
May a weird holy man move into your backyard? All right,
So anything Susy on the venus stuff and vowels and adrenal.

(17:02):
You know, if you if you went anywhere else, Susie,
I guarantee you they to diagnose you with PTSD.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Oh, there's there's no doubt about that. And uh, you
know I was wanting to, you know, mention something too
to Bill. Not right now, but it's it's kind of odd,
and maybe I might just go public and and share
my my insomnia question and how I've connected it to

(17:32):
a certain event. But you know, I never understood the
compression thop thing. And we've got a dear friend, older gentleman,
and he's in Kurrville and so he's retired, I think
Methodist pastor or whatever, and so he's been working a lot.

(17:55):
You know that the denominational stuff kind of falls to
the side because you got the Methodist Church and Hunt
in the in the Baptist Church and Hunt working together
like you know, teammates. It's kind of cool. But anyways,
you know, after the JAB, he begin to have these problems,

(18:17):
and so now he's told that he can't fly and
he can't drive without the compression socks stockings really and
I don't understand why you would want to compress something
that's having problems functioning. It just it doesn't drive in
in my head.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, uh, it makes no sense to me at all.
What they're doing is they're telling people put this on
and compress that area and I won't swallow up so much.
But the problem is you're not moving the blood anywhere else.
You're just pushing it up a little bit from pressure,
and you're still not getting it back to the heart

(18:58):
like it needs to go. So again, natural vitamin C.
Maybe the check valves are bad in the in the veins,
maybe the adrenals are in trouble. Again, they're the number
one customer for vitamin C. A lot of possibilities.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Well, again, leave it to Western medicine to treat a
symptom and not a cause.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Well, of course they're very good at that. I guarantee you.
They're not helping Trump because he went to the pharmaceutical
side of life. That's what they do with him. And I, like,
I said, I would love to help, and I know
I could. There's no doubt in my mind. And I'm
afraid they're gonna make things worse, you know. Give you example,

(19:48):
I had a patient of mine contact me, we'll see
what is today Wednesday, probably contacted me like Monday, and
and she said that she ended up in the hospital
and they told her that she had a heart attack
and that once one was plogged a hundred percent and

(20:13):
the other one was like ninety percent. And I said, well,
if that was true, i'd be talking to God asking
him to connect you. I don't buy that for a second.
And I said, tell me what happened. And I said.
I felt bad because I said, I assumed you've still
been taking cardio BLUs all this time. She said no.

(20:36):
I said, well, I remember you didn't like to taste,
but she did take it way back, and I should
have checked. I just assumed that when I tell people
how important it is, they keep taking it forever, but
she wasn't, and I felt bad that I didn't ask
her about it. But I don't actually think she had
a heart attack. She told me a week before or

(21:00):
she was traveling for work and she noticed when she
was dragging her suitcases around that she was really kind
of weak and fatigued. And she said her chest bothered
her a little bit, and then the next week it
did it again, so she took herself to the hospital.
So I told her, I said, well, if you if

(21:21):
you had a heart attack and you were one hundred
percent blocked, we'd be talking through God because you'd be
in heaven right now. So I said, I don't buy
that for a minute. Every time somebody has come to
me after they thought they had a heart attack and
went to the hospital, they were always told ninety percent.

(21:43):
That was like the standard number for many, many years.
So I asked her, what are you taking. Well, they
put me on plavix, and plavix is to keep your
blood thin. Well, that's not you don't need that. Your
blood is not thick. They told her to take an

(22:05):
aspirin every day. That's terrible. It causes internal bleeding and lipitour.
For cholesterol. Oh, so I told her. I said, in
my opinion, everything they told you is not true. Either
they don't know because that's what they were taught, or
it's make They make so much money doing it that

(22:27):
nobody seems to care. So I explained to her, your
blood's not too thick and uh plavix, which is to
help keep things from sticking. I said, what else did
they do? She said, they put in two stents and
they want to put in another one. I said, oh
my god, I said, so, let me explain this to you.

(22:49):
They're telling you that your arteries were clogged up, and
what they want to do is stick something in there
that gives the body the ability to clog more stuff
up by sticking to that. And they're going to tell you, well,
it's special metal and it doesn't stick. And I said, now,

(23:11):
if they would have told you that your arteries were
collapsing and they needed to keep them open, then you
might have bought the story about a stint. But a
stint just makes a lot of money. When they put
them in, and the arteries weren't collapsing, they were saying

(23:32):
they're clogged up. So why on earth if the plumbing
is clogged up. Would you put something in that you
would think more about using if something was collapsing. So
to me, that's crap. And then they want to do
another stint on another area, and I asked her, I said, well,

(23:56):
you took yourself to the hospital, right right, I said,
and I wish you to call me that first week
when it happened. But that's history now, so we just
have to move forward. So I said, let's do this.
You have to make your own decision. I cannot tell
you what to take or what not to take that

(24:18):
they gave you, because it wasn't me to give it
to you. But I can tell you this, I would
never take any of what they did, and I would
never let them put a stint in me. But now
we have to go forward. So I said, let's do cardioplus.
Let's do Hawthorn. Hawthorn is really really well known in

(24:42):
the world for a heart over fifty years old. Some
places they even call it the geriatric heart, like I
think in Germany where that name came from. Then I said,
how sir rudeplus, because Sir rudaplus is going to help us,
whether we we have anterios sclerosis or arterioscrosis or athrolscrossis.

(25:07):
Athroscrosis is placking and the hardaries get hard and thick
and they don't move like they should. Arterialscrosis is where
they're maybe clogging up so cerutoplus for either one of
those conditions. Cardioplus hawthorn emuplex and I picked one other thing,

(25:33):
and at the moment it eludes me because I was
taking my time trying to think of what I would
send her. But she said that she was going to
do that, and like I said, I can't tell you
what to do. I can just tell you I would
not do what you're doing. And we went through about cholesterol.
Lipitore shuts down the liver's ability to make eighty percent

(25:57):
of the body's cholesterol, and so now how you have
a lot of problems. And what they found also is
that lipid toor robs the body of coenzyme Q ten.
So what some of these doctors around the world are
doing that they're shutting down your liver. They also are

(26:20):
putting you on a coenzyme Q ten product, and God
only knows how good that is. Cardioplus has co enzyme
q ten, it has the vaso dilating cataplex GB vitamins.
It has the protomorphagin for heart tissue and mutzel tissue.
It has natural vitamin C, very important for the arteries,

(26:43):
veins and capillaries. And then the hawtthorn is just great
for the heart. So rudiplus is great for making sure
them arteries are healthy and not all clogged up. And
hopefully she'll do all that.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Is.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
When I got off the phone with their she sounded
like she was going to do what I had suggested,
and I really, really truly hope so, because I don't
want her to be taking that other stuff, I said,
how's the other stuff making you feel? And she said horrible?
So we'll just have to see, and I'm looking right now. Okay,

(27:23):
here's what I told her. I told her cardioplus a
rudeplus emiplex hawthorn o prima, which is a good fatty
ass epa DHA very important for the heart and all that,
and also simplex F for the hormone stuff because she
was having some issues there and so we covered all

(27:45):
that at one time, and hopefully she's doing that. I
have not seen anything ardered. I don't know what she's
planning on doing, but I sure want to help her.
This is a very very nice lady and just so
so sad and like you, Sizzy, she'd been through lots
of stress, I mean stressed out big time like you.

(28:08):
So you can relate to all that and that.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
Yeah, travel alone nowadays, where they just treat so horribly.
I couldn't imagine having to travel a lot for business.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, and I pray that I never ever have to
step in an airport going somewhere ever again, because the
last experience really soured my taste. Years ago, I used
to fly to all over the place and it was

(28:42):
so great and it was not all the headaches, and
it was just fun. I had dated a girl down
in New Orleans and I'd fly down there all the
time and she'd fly up here and if I got
there early, they'd get me on the flight that was
sitting there right then. I I mean, it was just
a piece of cake. But it's it's horrible now.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Yeah, they just treat you so so terrible. Now, I'm
with you. It used to be be fun, be uh exciting,
you know, it's funny. My problem is take off and
my if I'm if I'm traveling with Huntley or no
one next to me, I've probably got my fingernails in

(29:28):
their knee. Once I get you know, past pass takeoff
and you know that that little joke, and then then
I'm fine. But yeah, it used to be fun.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, I loved it. Bill, are you back? I see
a note here? Oh, well, you should have said something.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
Well, I was listening my mother, Tobay, don't interrupt, it's
not light.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, I don't mind. You're you're part of this. I
need to hear from you. If you're here, you're a
big part of the show. We'll learn long ago.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
Don't ever cross your mother because when you finally meet
up again, it ain't gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
This is true. This is true. Well, that clicking sound
is gone, So Steve, whatever you did worked, and everybody
would blame in me. You know good. It's a good thing.
I don't have feelings anymore because I got them hurt
by Now. All right, Well we're at break time, guys,

(30:29):
So when we come back, we'll continue. Bill Sizzy. If
you guys got anything on venus congestion, we'll go back
to it. And anyway, ladies and gentlemen, this is doctor
Krup's actual health hours. We had a couple of hiccups
in the beginning of the show. Please forgive us for that,
but we're all back and everything sounds really great, So

(30:52):
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Speaker 9 (32:45):
Will I try to make It's Onnday that I got
so damn deepressed, dude, I said my science on Monday,
and I got myself undressed pretty for the autar.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
But I do agree this time when no Wumman sure can.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
Be from the mine, happy fun thinking about.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
You, sister, go down there, surprise there.

Speaker 10 (33:21):
I just can't live without you, can't you see it
in my eyes.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
I've been one.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
For for Spider.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
I've been two to part two fights.

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Speaker 7 (33:55):
Then I try to think it. I don't mind saying
kid me again.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to Doctor Cooper's
Natural Health Owers. We've got the whole crew back. We
lost Bill for a little while, and he was back
and I did not know it. He was hiding in
the background like producer Steve behind the curtain. So we
are all back. Anything guys on Venus congestion, our President Trump,

(34:30):
all that stuff that's going on.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
Well, I know, I'm bad, that's terrible. I'm sorry, Bill,
But it's like this congestion, like some kind of solar
system gridlock, like traffic can.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Ok, yeah it could be Bill anything.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
Yeah. You mentioned Verchos Fades a while ago, and I
remember as a kid one of my mom's friends, uh
had that, and she she blamed it on having like
seven children. That the rumor at that point was that
that's pretty much what caused Verco's faith and she had

(35:16):
them stripped, which was they basically they tied off one
into the vein and just pulled it out and tied
off the other end. And it was curely a cosmetic thing.
But I thought, that can't be good for you. But
but but just the kinds of you know, I don't

(35:37):
like to use the word folk remedy, but that was
such a it seemed to me, such a unjustifiable treatment
for a condition that they clearly weren't having a whole
lot of luck figuring out. But it was not an
uncommon thing for women to do this.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh they still do that. And what they yeah, what
they tell people is, you know, I could we could
fix that up, And they go in there and they
drain it out or they cut it out.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
And the problem with that is, and you brought up
a good point, that's part of your venous system, that's
part of getting the blood back to the heart from
the arteries, and uh, we need that. And and it's
there's a problem and poor nutrition. Uh, those little check
valves that are in the veins, if they don't have

(36:33):
the proper nutrition, one of them being vitamin C natural
vitamin C, then they they fail. And when they do,
the blood pools and that's what you get. And for
an attractive lady looking down at her legs seeing vericos veins,
she's gonna do whatever it takes to get rid of that.
I'm not. There's no doubt in my mind they made

(36:56):
millions of dollars on that because it's cosmetic. Look, then
nobody talked to them probably about what it was for,
but they sure probably did a lot of those surgeries.

Speaker 8 (37:09):
So I think so many things that we've talked about
this kind of around before. But you know, so so
much of of almost any discipline goes through this developmental
process where the truth of three years ago is an
absolute flaw. At this point that people keep learning about

(37:33):
things and figuring stuff out, which is a good thing.
On the other hand, the patients are the ones that
pay the price. But it's I think the thing that
always bothered me about about the pharmaceutical medicine was that
the arrogance that they had all the answers and they
don't They never did. They had an answer at the time,

(37:57):
but you know, five years down the road, eight years
down the road, Oh no, we don't want to do
that anymore. Well, it's arrogant. It's always been been offensive
to me. I just it's always riled me up.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Well, yeah, and you brought up a good point. A
few years down the road, and maybe not even years
you haven't fixed why you had. Verico's veins are pooling
and so either the adrenals are in trouble or you're
you're got capillaries. I mean, you've got check valves in

(38:32):
the veins that aren't working, and so you've still got
this nutritional deficiency. And I can't believe having seven kids
might do that to a woman because she's taking care
of two while she's pregnant, and so every nutrition resource
she's got is also going to that baby. And very

(38:55):
important that she is maintained, and I have seen I
think we'll do a show one time on prenatal and
natal nutrition because they do very bad stuff from the
pharmaceutical side, and no wonder women have the problem, Susie.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
Anything else, No, I might say something smart Alec.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, I kind of like that. I mean, I'm used
to it. You know, you guys all gang up on me. Anyway, So, Susie,
did you know what a harmonium was?

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:37):
I can kind of sort of picture it. I thought
it was funny what Bill said. Why would they fix it?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I told you Bill was the guy standing next to
the guy who called that son of a bitch a
piccolo player.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
Well, and the old, the old orchestral joke was, you know,
if you talk about it the range of an instrument,
it's it's how the range of an instrument is how
how lola can go on how high it could go.
But when they talk about viola's they say, the ranges
depends on how far you can throw it.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Viola. Is that a harmonium?

Speaker 8 (40:19):
No, but it might as well be.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, okay, okay, cool. I got to tell this little story.
This is kind of a joke, Cheryl. You know, because
you guys talking about feeding outside babies. Well, we started
doing that a while back because we in the winter,
we saw these kiddy cats look like they were starving

(40:41):
to death and freezing and very skinny. So we start
putting food out and water, and pretty soon we ended
up and she named everybody Dixie the possum, Sammy the
raccoon Jack is one of the cats, and this other one,

(41:01):
I forget his name, and she could go outside. She's
got this animal magnetism to her, and she could go
outside and talk to Sammy the raccoon, who came around
the most and actually like we'd scare it when we
opened the door. But then she said, come on, Sammy,
come on back, and maybe we were putting more food

(41:23):
or something, and eventually Sammy will come back. And then
one day, I guess Sammy really liked Cheryl, so she
brought one of her babies, and then another time she
brought two babies, and then about a week ago she
brought three babies. So now we got the Dixie the

(41:46):
possum out there and three baby raccoons and mama raccoon
all eating from the same place. And then we get
pigeons and blue jays, Susie's favorite, the blue Jay, and
coming over there had some kiddy cats, and so we're
talking in the house and we noticed that the animals
are coming around to eat later and later. Well, Mama

(42:11):
really likes to watch that, so her outside babies need
to come around earlier. And out of the blue, she says, yeah,
that's really not working for me. I said, well, you
need to go out and sell them. We have a
little camera so I could see them sitting in the
living room. But it was just so funny, just as

(42:33):
serious could be. That's not really working for me because
she didn't get to see them. All right, we got
a couple of jokes. Oh one thing on politics, when
we go too far, it looks like Obama calli Clapper.
All those clowns got caught with her hand in the

(42:57):
cookie jar back during the Russia Russia Russia thing, and
all the evidence is out now they got Hillary's lost
emails and a big deal, you would think, But I
remember back when fifty of those clowns signed that paper
that said that was not Hunter's laptop, it was a
Russian hoax, and not one of them has been punished

(43:22):
or anything happened to him. So I hope that something
happens right now so that the world and the nation
see that this won't be tolerated, especially after the way
they treated the January sixth crowd and President Trump and
General Flynn and Pete Navarro and Steve Bannon, and they

(43:45):
just treated these people really bad. Two of them went
to prison over this, not answering a subpoena, and the
Democrats student all the time. So I don't know if
it's going to get better. But before we go to
the funny stuff, Sussy, what do you think is it
gonna get Are they going to do the same stuff?

Speaker 7 (44:02):
H you know, I'm like so many other people, I'm
ready to see, you know, the purp walks. I just
wonder I think that they're they're handling it. And aside
from the Epstein list, which I don't think is ever

(44:26):
coming out, the way that was handled was horrific. Third
grader could have done it better. But the way they're
handling this information. With Tulsey Gabbert at the HELM, I
think it's pretty smart. And she did say that they

(44:46):
had three whistleblowers that were aware of these meetings that
were sickened by what had happened. But not sickened enough
to come out at time. But supposedly they're they're gonna
come out. I'm I'm curious. It's being said that this

(45:09):
is the biggest presidential crime of our lifetime or beyond
in history. So I guess we'll see.

Speaker 8 (45:19):
Well.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I pray that something gets done because the fifty that
signed that letter and lied should be punished. I'll never
forget Joe Biden on TVs telling Trump how wrong he
was at fifty of the top intelligence people in the
nation signed the letter saying it's not Hunter's laptop. I mean,

(45:40):
come on, and now they went after that. I mean,
they treated Trump terrible, and I know how they can be,
even when you're innocent. You know that feeling a lot
of people do. So I hope some of these people
are held accountable and maybe punished. We showed the nation

(46:01):
in the world that it's not acceptable. Bill, what do
you think, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
That would that would be nice. I've my my cynicism,
uh is a little too deeply ingrained to believe that
that this, uh that these people are going to pay
a price. They're too they're too invulnerable, and they're too
well insulated, and uh, you know, I just I think

(46:28):
so many people, certainly a lot of folks that I've
talked to and I don't talk to that many anymore,
but just just have absolutely no faith in uh in
the government ever having a sense of right or ethics
or decency or uh if you want one of the
funniest things I've I guess it's not that funny, but

(46:48):
you hear the Democrats wailing about democracy and uh, you know, yeah,
it's just the hypocrisy reigns supreme and that that party.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, well, you know, it's funny. I don't think any
of the Democrats even realize this is a republic.

Speaker 7 (47:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
They constantly say our democracy, and we don't have one.
Thank god, they've they've lost their minds. It was one
other thing. Oh, Telsea Gabbert said, this is being turned
over to the Department of Justice and they're going after this.

(47:29):
So we'll see, I hope. So it's time them evil
people pay for what they've done to this nation. Uh.
And and they were all in on it, Liz Cheney,
that whole bunch. Now Adam Schiff has been caught, they said, uh,
claiming like Letitia James did in New York, that they

(47:52):
live one place to get a better discount on the mortgage.
But they really live someplace else, and that's what they
went out after Trump farr and he hadn't even done it.
The bank said he hadn't done it, but he still
lost because it was on New York Jerry full of lefties.
So very sad. But let's hope for the best, prepare

(48:13):
for the worst, all right. So we had a cop
pulled this lady over and he walks up to the
car and asks the normal stuff, license and registration. You
know why I stopped you? And she said no, I don't,

(48:34):
but you know he was running a speed trap, so
you can pretty much figure. And he leaves and comes
back with her stuff, and he's writing a ticket, and
she said, I thought you didn't write pretty girls tickets
and he said, we don't sign here. Oh me all right?

(48:55):
And then a guy. The guy says, if your wife
is not talking to you and she's that angry, give
her a piece of paper and some crayons. Since she
can't use her big girl words, maybe she'll draw you
a picture. I like that, all right. This one's a

(49:18):
little bit tackier, but we're going to try to figure
it out. The guy was pretty drunk, and he's laying
down over on the bench on the side there, and
he's watching this guy at the corner hustling women. And
if a pretty girl walks by, the guy tells her

(49:39):
particular asked with a feather and if she says what
you say to me, he's particularly nasty weather. And she say, okay, yeah,
I'm going. And so he's doing this for a little
while and the drunk sees all this and he thinks,
I got to learn that. So he comes over and
he asks the guy. He said, could you teach me

(50:01):
how to do that? And he said, sure, it's real easy.
You just when they walk by, you say tickle your
asked with a feather. And if they liked that idea,
you might have just met somebody and you go have
a drink or have lunch or whatever. He said. But
if they hear you and don't like what you said,
you just tell them particularly nasty weather, be very polite,

(50:24):
and they'll walk on. So the drunk said, all, I
gotta try that. So this great, big old girl comes
walking down the sidewalk and he said, stick a feather
up your butt. She said, what did you say to me?
Freaking cold, ain't it. I like that. That was funny.

(50:51):
In different crowd, I tell that a little differently, but
that was just good. One thing I wanted to touch
on with exercise and products is mix things up. Don't
do the same exercise every day. Don't do the same

(51:13):
products every day. If you're doing except cardioplus, that's something
I think everybody should do every day. But mix things up.
Do different things. There's a lot of things that have
something similar to them, and break it up. See what
your body needs, what it wanted. Maybe do trace minerals,
Maybe do organic whole food minerals. Maybe do seruta plus,

(51:41):
maybe do seruta, maybe do imuplex, maybe do epimune complex,
maybe do some cattle in But mix things up a
little bit. And especially when it comes to exercise, some
people do the same exercise every day and can't figure
out whether or not losing weight or feeling better. Well,

(52:03):
your body got used to it. It's kind of like
your job at work. Whatever you did at work, your
body adapt to that, and you're doing the same exact thing.
And I see it out here all the time. The
same people will walk the same thing every single day,
and it's not really achieving anything, you need to break
it up, give it a day off, walk a different distance,

(52:28):
maybe ride a bike, do something different. And the same
with food. A lot of people today google doctor on
how to eat, and everybody's got an opinion. But everybody's
body is different. So if you're eating something really good
for you and you're eating too much, that can be

(52:48):
a problem. If you're not eating some things that are
really good for you at all, that can be a problem.
So you want to balance diet. You want meat, you
want vegetables, you want fruits, but you want a balance.
You can't do what a lot of people do. Like

(53:09):
I had a patient tell me all I'm going to
do is eat meat from now on. Well, he can't
do that. That's too much for your body. You need
a balance. But that was his thing. He saw something
on the internet and the guy recommended only eating meat,
nothing else, so he was going to do it. Well,

(53:30):
most of them. People are lying every day when I'm
posting the show, I see things from people saying they
don't want to know you to know this, The VA
don't want you to know this, the hospitals don't know
want you to know this. But if you click here,
we're going to give you the secret to everything, and

(53:50):
it's all mostly scam crap and you got to stay
away from that stuff. But a lot of people don't know.
I get a ton of emails saying, thank you, your
payment has been processed, your your shipment is on the way,
and I know I didn't buy nothing. So you just

(54:11):
got to watch all this stuff and don't let anybody
mess with you on that kind of stuff, because it's
the same with supplements. It's the same with anything. Everybody's
got to cure all and you know, we might have
somebody who's had a lot of stress, like Susie who

(54:33):
she's talked about it an awful lot, and we may
give her something for that stress to help her adrenals
and it may work like magic, and we may give
it to one of her friends and it didn't work
for them at all. And that's why you troubleshoot. And
it's really funny to me. Everybody wants to be a

(54:53):
doctor now and they think they are because they can
google doctor everything. All that does is make you dangerous
because Google got in a lot of trouble. I think
it was over in Britain, the British Medical journal. They
did some testing and they found out that if you

(55:15):
put in a problem, Google made sure that you had
the worst case scenario and brought you back to the
pharmaceutical side of life because they were in bed with
that bunch and they got fined heavily for it. But
I'm sure it hasn't stopped. So you have to be
very careful. Everybody wants to be a doctor, but nobody

(55:38):
wants to go to medical school, and nobody wants to
deal with patients every day and try to learn all
this stuff. And one of the things about when you're
a doctor is you're always learning. And sometimes, like me,
I feel pretty stupid because I just when I think
I know something, something will slap you right upside the

(55:58):
head and say, no, you don't. So you're always learning.
And the Google doctor people, they're bad. I tell people
when they do that kind of stuff. I said, do
you go to the auto mechanic and tell him I
want you to change this part and do this and
this because I know they're bad? Or do you go
there and let him troubleshoot. Well, I let him troubleshoot. Well,

(56:21):
then why are you trying to tell doctors what they
should do. I lost a good patient who tried to
tell me what tests I needed to do for his
daughter and she didn't need them, and it was just
a waste of money. But he wanted to do that,

(56:42):
and he had every right. I'd let him do him
but trying to tell me like he knew and he
didn't know anything. It wasn't his field. And people get
kind of carried away because they looked it up on
the computer and got people eating too much of one
kind of food or not eating food that they need
to eat.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
Ouh.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Like gluten, Oh my god. Everybody was afraid of gluten
for a long time and it's never been the bad guy.
And without it, most of your stuff you make wouldn't
have any flexibility. So bad stuff, all right, Susie. Anything
at all before we go to break?

Speaker 7 (57:21):
Yeah, I've got a joke.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
So these cows were sitting around the table and they
were playing cards and smoking a joint. Yeah, the snakes
were high.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
That was good. That was good, Bill, Anything before we
go to break. We're getting close.

Speaker 7 (57:45):
No, no, he can he can't top that.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
He can't.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
Oh no, there's no way I could top that, at
least on.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
The Yeah, that's funny. You know. I was talking about
Cheryl being the animal magnet. I remember years ago when
I worked at Budweiser, we owned the Saint Louis Cardinals Stadium,
the Clydesdales, we owned Grant's Farm, and we owned all

(58:18):
the seaworlds. So we went to SeaWorld because we got
on an allotment of tickets for employee with some friends.
And we're at SeaWorld and everybody there is having to
buy some kind of bait at I think it was

(58:38):
the dolphin tank or what, I forget what it was,
but they wouldn't come to you unless you had some
kind of bait. And all Cheryl had to do was
walk up to the side and they all come to her.
So there's something magnetism about her and animals that just
and she don't she doesn't see it, but everybody else
sees it. But that thing with the raccoon brings and

(59:00):
her three babies just blew my mind. And the three
babies and the raccoon were sitting there eating with the postum,
all of them together, and I thought of Susie when
I saw the blue jay come up. They come up early.
They don't come up with the animals are there, But
the blue jay was out there and pigeons, and the
blue jay chased away the pigeons, and I thought, there's

(59:23):
Susie's favorite bird.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
No, my little pecan trees are just about fool I'm
so excited. Well good, I look at him every day.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
That's great.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
A long time before they can be harvested, but yeah,
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I wish I could turn my house around because I
get all that afternoon sun, and I think that's why
my garden never is doing real well, it's too much
sun back there. All right, Bill, nothing else before we
go to break yep, all right, well ladies, Ja, gentlemen.
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you got a weekly topic up your sleeve.

Speaker 8 (01:04:02):
Yeah, that's kind of all right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
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Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
Well, it's it's kind of excuse me, kind of a
continuation of last week's about the changes, the behavioral changes
that we experience and how others tend to notice them
before we do, and and what can how we begin
to deal with that. Was was talking to Minnesota friend

(01:04:31):
last week that unknown for a while who has aged
aged parents that both of her parents are in their
nineties and they've been really in pretty good health up
until apparently the last year or so. But the thing

(01:04:52):
that that helped my attention was and I thought it
was kind of worthy of a little discussion, and they said,
as they physically and mentally deteriorate, they're they both have
mobility issues. It's it's hard for them to get around,

(01:05:14):
walk around, they're beginning to forget things. But the thing
that was interesting to me and I had noticed this,
you know, over over the years of patients, elderly patients
as well as as a patients whose parents were elderly,
that these folks who shuffle around behind the walk or

(01:05:36):
will will swear that they have no problems walking at all,
they're fine, or that they forget to take uh, take
their take their medications, or they forget to go to lunch,
or they forget forget, No, I don't forget. I just
changed my mind.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
And they have.

Speaker 8 (01:05:59):
So many characteristics which I thinking about. I realized that
anybody who has who's not particularly well, and I'm not
talking talking about elderly people here, I'm talking about very
young people. I mean even dogs age you know, who
who have these kinds of of issues that show up

(01:06:23):
when we're not feeling particularly well, and what was what
is the primary what is the primary behavioral change that
we notice in folks that are are elderly, people who
are who have either a physical illness or an emotional discrepancy.

(01:06:43):
I don't like to talk about mental illness, but mental
health issues is that they feel alone. I mean, you
mentioned the other the other day that your your father
said that all of her friends were gone and the
us we make new friends, but it's not the same,
it's it's different. It's different than people who are of

(01:07:05):
our own generation. There's a commonality and friends that we
have that we've kind of grown older together because we've
got enough shared life experience that it makes a difference.
But the sense of isolation, of being totally low of
you know, we've kind of talked around a little bit

(01:07:26):
about how physicians tend to treat their patients. Now you
give them six minutes or eight minutes or whatever it is.
You know, folks have lost the concept of being in
touch of humanity, of humanness, and then the need as

(01:07:48):
part of the part of the healing process is to
feel that you're not alone to feel that somebody is
paying attention to you, that somebody cares. I think a
lot of elderly people are in doctor's office all the
time because the doctor is the only person they can
talk to, even if it's only for six or ten minutes.
You know, you go back to the nursing home and
nobody can hear you because you know, the batteries ran

(01:08:11):
out of their hearing age, or they just don't wear
them or whatever. And and this isolation is a really
destructive thing. And and I think it results from almost
every kind of physical or emotional disbalance when when things
get out of kilter, we we kind of curl up

(01:08:35):
and and stay inside. It's, uh, you know when when critters,
you talk about raccoons and possums and stuff. When critters,
whether they're our own pets or their wild animals, when
they're when they're thick, when they're unwell, they usually go
off by themselves. Of course, with with possums and raccoons,

(01:08:58):
there's no other possums and raccoons take care of them.
But the sense of withdrawal and separation from the rest
of their kind, whether it's it's us people or critters.
There seems to be a commonality with the mammal family.
And as I say that, one of the things that

(01:09:20):
has always interested me is that in response to physical
or emotional imbalance, we typically will do the thing that
we most need not to do. Right, what we most
need not to do is is isolated. To shut everybody

(01:09:41):
else out, is to withdraw and deal with our own
stuff internally, because there's nothing wrong with us. You know,
as I've mentioned in my Minnesota friend, I said, one
of the things you have to understand about about elderly
people and their their mobility issues or their memory issues
is that that's their reality. They're right, you're the odd

(01:10:05):
person out. You don't understand They're fine, right. And I
ran into this a lot with people who had various
psychotic issues that the things that they heard and saw
were for them very true. That was their reality, and

(01:10:28):
it was our job to convince them that their reality
wasn't real and that they needed to change their behavior. Well, yeah,
it depends on it depends right. But there's there's such
a an elasticity about the mental diagnoses. Uh. And then,

(01:10:51):
as you've mentioned a couple of times, tonight, everybody everybody's different.
Some people are just kind of mood well, that's their baseline.
Some people are kind of happy all the time, that's
their baseline. So if we try to apply diagnostic criteria

(01:11:12):
to this kind of a variable, we're going to have
mixed results. But it takes time to to really begin
to understand a little bit about the personality the person
you're talking to. And it doesn't matter if it's our
friends or relatives or or what it. You know, we

(01:11:33):
we tend to to have a need, apparently to pigeonhole
people so that we can put them in a place
in our own thinking and we're comfortable with it, and
we tend to miss eighty percent of the personality. How
do we and we did the same thing with ourselves.
I mean, when we're when we're looking at our own behavior,

(01:11:53):
how do we how do we attain the objectivity to
really be honest with ourselves and be fair of themselves?
You know, I've said for many years dealing with couples
and relationships that one of the hardest things in life
is relational honesty. You know, we pull our punches all
the time when we're talking to people that we care

(01:12:15):
about because we don't want to hurt their feelings, or
we don't want to make a ruckus, or we don't
want to get in trouble. So we're not always quite
as sometimes we need to be brutally honest as really
I think it might be beneficial to do. One of
the things that I've noticed in dealing with couples is,

(01:12:38):
you know, if if they don't have this kind of
honesty with each other, they get so they don't trust
each other. You know, you're not telling me what you think,
You're just telling me what you think I want to hear.
And then those may be two different things. And where
does that kind of of trust begin to reassert itself.

(01:13:00):
It's very difficult. The same thing with again, our physical disability.
As we age. One of the things that I think
most frequently is the problem is people with their hearing,
they begin to lose their hearing, and so they respond

(01:13:20):
either one of two ways. I know one person who
is almost completely deaf who will not shut up right
talk talk talk, talk, talk, talk. Well, the reason they
do that is because if they're the ones that are talking,
they don't have to not hear what somebody else says.
If they're ones that doing that, I was seeing about

(01:13:44):
elderly people are thinking. There are three questions that an
elderly person, if he can answer positively, it's been a
good day. The first question is do you pee good?
Second question, do you poop good? Third question, do you
chew good? If you do all three of those things good,
having a good day, right, what happens about the rest
of itself? You know, we lose we lose our ability

(01:14:07):
to hear that isolations, we lose our ability to connect
with people. That isolation us. Isolation seems to be kind
of the bottom line to almost any disorder that I've
ever encountered. And I haven't been aware of that for years,
but recently I really begin to understand that as things

(01:14:31):
happen to us, as our way of looking at things change,
typically we need to we isolate, We curl up, we
go inside. We well, we don't you know, we don't
disagree with somebody, We don't express ourselves, we don't say
what we really think or we really feel. We just

(01:14:52):
we just become more quiet, unless, of course you're hearing
goes and then you're talking all the time. But it's
an interesting process as we become I think not only
not only older, but as we become more aware of
our own thought processes and our ability to express those thoughts.

(01:15:21):
It's certainly occurred to me over the years that I
certainly don't need to share everything I think with somebody,
no matter how close that relationship is, because typically I
think people just sometimes need to verbalize things, but they
don't want to have a discussion about it. Now, this
is what I think. I don't want to argue with it.

(01:15:43):
Don't try and change my mind. This is where I am.
I don't need any response. Well, what ultimately the folks
will realize is just don't share that anyway, because otherwise
people are going to try and fix it. Makes you isolated,
makes you more aware of your own loneness. And I

(01:16:05):
it's thinking about isolation and a loneness. And I use
the word artists, and I don't mean just painters, but
I mean musicians and sculptors and writers and poets, dancers
and anybody who's in that kind of a creative endeavor
frame of mind really mostly live in their heads. They

(01:16:32):
don't They have They have two persona that they use.
The one is a social one, on the other was
is their real one, and their real one is the
one that's always creating. You know, again, I've known more
musicians than other kinds of artists, but they're always no

(01:16:52):
matter what you're talking about, no matter where you are
or what you're doing, a musician has always got music
going on in his head and he's always thinking about it.
Whether it's a pianist he's always playing that piece that
he's played for fifty years and he's still learning about it,
or whether it's a poet who's rehashing the same kind
of experience. No matter how what other things you're talking

(01:17:15):
about are doing, that is their primal battle activity. That's
where their spirit lives. So isolation is not always a
bad thing. It becomes a difficult thing when likes and reader.
I just was reading the other day about the fellow
who wrote the book back in the sixties. It was

(01:17:36):
such a big deal called Catcher on the Rye. I
think his last name was Salager. He was just a
famous recluse. He just did not be around other people.
He lived physically alone. He was married for a while,
but you know, that's a hard marriage when one bus
person doesn't want to talk or be around other people.

(01:17:57):
But those kinds of artists have. That's just the way
they functioned, the way or as I like to say,
the way we function that people who who have that
kind of creative drive, that's a very separate reality to them,
and it's not one that it gets shared very often.

(01:18:18):
The products of that process can be shared, but not
the process itself. Isolation not bad and a loneeness. You know,
we were talking the other week on the show how
it's important I think for people to understand how important
loneeness is that we all need our lone time, whether
that's separate vacations or just a room that you can

(01:18:42):
go into in your home that you can be alone,
you can shut the door, and people respect that need
for privacy. We all need that kind of time to
regenerate and rebuild, throw out the junk of the day,
sort ourselves out a little bit. Loneliness is a whole
different ballgame. That could be a negative kind of thing.

(01:19:06):
I think that can that can cause more public but
it's important, I think, to recognize the difference between a
loneness and loneliness. There are two different kinds of processes.
But at any rate, as we as we age, as

(01:19:26):
we learn about stuff and grow about stuff, and we
have the capability, because of our own experience, to recognize
behavioral behavior in our friends and behavioral changes in our
friends or relatives or people we care about, to understand
that we're also part of that we change we have
there somebody said, well, you know, I have some days

(01:19:49):
in are so good and then the rest of them
are worse. Well, this is an interesting way to go
through your life. But okay. But as as we have
the life experience to be able to recognize within ourselves
that these changes are part of the process, the difference
is how do we deal with it? What do we

(01:20:11):
do with about it? I remember so often when I
was growing up, my mom and dad would lose a parent,
or lose a relative or even their friends, and they say, well,
they just gave up. They just gave up. Well, maybe
they did, and maybe on the other hand, they decided

(01:20:34):
to let things go. That as we age, you, as
my friend in Minnesota said, you know, we get over
not much matters anymore. That's true. Not much matters, Not
as much matters as it did when I was twenty
five or thirty or forty. But the things that do

(01:20:54):
matter matter a lot more. It's not that we know
not that we lose that sense of what's important to us.
And I think that's the difference between giving up and
letting go. That letting go is a it's kind of
a proactive thing. It's a decision that this is not

(01:21:16):
important to me anymore and okay, I'm not going to
worry about it. Giving up is sort of a reactive
process that well, yeah, the hell of it, and it's
it's just a very different kind of thing. And we
see that in elderly people. We have people who become

(01:21:39):
so closed in to themselves that basically you can't reach them,
you know, which, they may be fine, they may be
fine with that. Again, that's their booth, that's their reality.
And it is certainly in the middle health aspect. It
is something that I think is no not stressed enough,

(01:22:01):
and that is that we need to respect a person's
position if if they don't, if they don't want to
open up, to try and force them to open up
can be really counterproductive, if not destructive. If somebody's hearing
stuff that we don't hear, or seeing things that we

(01:22:21):
don't hear, we have to understand that that is their reality,
that's their truth, not mine. Doesn't make it good or bad.
It just is how do we deal with that? How
do we accept in others that difference? And I think
part of it is we haven't learned how to accept

(01:22:43):
that difference within ourselves. Is one point. One point to
stay in alive a long time is to try and
figure all that out. What's important to me is what
have I What am I about? What have I been about?
What is the point of my life is? Is ultimately
all or all my experiences, everything that I've encountered in

(01:23:04):
my life? Is that definitely part of the journey of
becoming aware of who I am, which it almost sounds
like an isolation kind of situation. We have to look
so deeply within ourselves to find that kind of to
find our own truth. And I think that there is

(01:23:24):
sometimes if folks get stuck, they get stuck in is
that in that process? And you know, as I read
somewhere not too long ago, that bitterness is the last
step before realization of change. Well, some folks just get

(01:23:47):
stuck and they stay bitter for the rest of their lives. Okay,
that's again, how do they recognize that this is a
change in themselves and what are they going to do
about it? Maybe they're not going to do anything about it,
and that's that's their choice. That's fine. As you said,
you know, we have we have a choice about what
happens to ourselves physically and in terms of what chemicals

(01:24:11):
we put on ourselves, whether they're natural or pharmaceutical. And
if if people want to go to the pharmaceutical rot
oki doki, not for me, but good for you, and
hope it works out. Where do we Where do we
draw that line? And that's it's often a very vague
and difficult line, kind of the same thing as sociding.

(01:24:36):
Is your down feeling right now a part of a
major depressive episode or is that just who you are?
And if that's just who you are and it's okay,
then I'm not going to mess with it. You know.
I can't make you attain some cosmic level of happiness.
That's that's not my job. So anyway, back to back

(01:24:56):
to recognizing behavioral changes. I think all of this is
so much tied in together, and it's a very complex.
It's a very complex thing, and we're trying to strive
to reach a simplicity beyond the complexity, and I don't
know if we'll ever make it anyway there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Wow, wow, is he anything for our comment?

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
No, that was that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Yeah, deep deep stuff. You know, Bill, you mentioned one
thing about, uh, as these people get older, some of
the things they run into. And one of the things
that I've noticed, the human body is designed to go
a lot more than we go, except for one little problem.

(01:25:42):
So many of these people are doing the pharmaceutical medications
and as they age, robbing the cholesterol from the brain
causes all these brain disorders dementia, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, all that
stuff happens. And so they're not they're not agent like

(01:26:05):
they used to. And we all notice our hearing isn't
the same when you were twenty five is when you're older.
But there's things you can do to help. But if
they're on the pharmaceutical drugs, it seems to make that
even worse. And I've seen cases where a woman told

(01:26:26):
the doctor that she hurt. So you know what he did.
He prescribed morphine she didn't need. Yeah, she didn't need morphine,
and and uh he just renews it. And when she's
doing the morphine, she's a different person. Uh la la lenne.

(01:26:51):
So but a lot of what a lot of what
happens to us is man made problems. I think if
you stayed away from the pharmacy, you might find out
that there's a whole lot of things you could still
do very well. And a big thing is we damage
the brain so much by taking away cholesterol, and then

(01:27:12):
a lot of people are told don't eat this, don't
eat that, or they eat too much of this and
that that they cause problems. So it's pretty tough.

Speaker 8 (01:27:23):
Yeah, And I think also is part of that, you know,
the aging process is essentially a deterioration process. We can't
do the same things when we're seventy that we did
when we're twenty, and we shouldn't. But how do we
how do we make the mental adjustment to do what

(01:27:46):
we need to do for ourselves at sixty five or
seventy so that we have a so that we have
a better finish, so that we're not we're not just
wasted away hard.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Yeah, well, and a lot of it I wrote years ago.
Somebody asked me to write some articles for them for
I don't know if they put them in a little
local paper or what, but I wrote one on getting older,
and I'll have to pull it out and we'll go
over that one night. But what I find is they've
conditioned people. As you get older, you can't do these

(01:28:25):
things anymore. You can't go outside. It's too hot. You
can't go outside, it's too cold. I was talking to
my mom the other day and she's telling me, well,
it's too hot out. I said, you know what, if
you were out in and in doing things, pretty soon
you would adjust and you would adapt. But when we
live in air conditioning and we don't ever go out,

(01:28:48):
it's kind of a shock initially, and I was. I
went and visited her not too long ago, and she
went to show me her room where they eat, and
we went out the back door will it locked behind us,
so we had to go up this hill to get

(01:29:08):
back to the front of the building. And if she'd
have been left to her own accord, she just said,
I can't do that. I grabbed her hand and I said,
let's go. You can do this, and she did just fine.
But her first reaction would be I can't do that.
And I told her, you can do anything you damn

(01:29:29):
want too. You just got to do it, and they
want you to be I really think a lot of
this is they want people on cholesterol medicine, so they
dumbed down their brain because by the time you get elderly,
you know a lot of stuff and you can start
through the bull pretty quick. And they don't want you

(01:29:52):
involved in politics and voting and making decisions because you're
in their way.

Speaker 8 (01:29:58):
So it's called intentional dependency.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Yeah, anything, Susie before we go to break.

Speaker 7 (01:30:08):
Yeah, it all reminds me, you know, of my mother,
you know, and it took me a long time to
figure out. And I think now I know her decline
and you know, she she was a larger woman, she
had well we won't go there, but you know, she

(01:30:29):
retired and she didn't need to. She just wanted to.
You know, she still had you know, my dad's you know,
be a benefit, so it wasn't anything to her, you know,
to go ahead and retire and take some security early.
And then I think when she turned sixty five, I

(01:30:50):
think she took kiss. But you know, she got to
where she was just giving up. And so she was
still going to church on Sundays. But we weren't pretty
quit because.

Speaker 11 (01:31:05):
Of her lifestyle very you know, sedate, sedative whatever, lifestyle,
laying around, you know, napping, during the day.

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
That she couldn't go sleep at night. Okay, so she
couldn't go sleep on Saturday night and she needed to
wake up, you know, and go to church and be awake.
So she tells her doctor this, so he gives her ambient.
And I've taken ambient once many many many years ago,

(01:31:42):
and it was horrible. It was like you're sleep walking,
just terrible. Only took it one time during a stressful time.
And now and and so got to the point that
she would fall all the time. Like I said, she

(01:32:05):
was a heavy woman, and they tended to have to call,
you know, the fire department to come out pick her up.
And then going to the doctor, you know, trying to
figure out why do I fall all the time, and
you know, he did all these test, stress tests, you know,

(01:32:27):
the hard test, you know, you name it. And so
she did come here for a while. I was trying
really to con her to move down here, and lain beheld,
she fell going to the fridge one night, so Hollie
and I get up and help her get up, and

(01:32:47):
then she fell in the shower and I was alone,
and I couldn't do anything, and I had to call
nine one one, but I started to put two and
two together, and it was taking all of that ambient.
I think it just destroyed her dreamals. I mean, pardon,

(01:33:10):
beyond anything that I've experienced. And so I think that's
what I think, that's what the medical community did to
my mother to take help take her away from me
too early. I think like seventy two, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Right, that happened to my mom's husband. He'd get up
in the morning, eat something, and take another sleeping pill
and go back to bed. Oh and he fell all
the time. It was bad. And a lot of it
is messing up to the adrenals, which has got to
do with your equilibrium too. So all right, guys, well
it is break time. Susie, you got a recipe up

(01:33:48):
your sleeve. Yeah, all right, Well, when we come back,
we'll jump right into that. Ladies and gentlemen, this is
doctor Krupa's Natural Health ours. We've got Susie, Bill, Steve
the producer behind the screen, and myself all here and
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(01:37:43):
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the name for her company, and tonight I am pretty
sure that it is called Riding High and Dream It construction.

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(01:38:20):
eight three zero three seven seven seventh set How about
a three zero three seven seven two one three one.
I know it's weird giving out someone else's.

Speaker 8 (01:38:32):
Numbers, because I still like your still like your selmon
Nola spaghetti.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Well that's the and and Susie's defense that's the oh
yeah right, all right, all right, Susy take it away.

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
Okay. So I decided to you know, play the game
UH and be cooperative with with Doc with the UH,
with the recipe and so a couple of things. I've
really being into vintage recipes, watching you know, some YouTube
shows about those, and just being you know, amazed at

(01:39:10):
some of it. But you know, natural vitam and ce.
You know, one of the things that I find that
helps me is that fresh squeezed, unpasteurized orange juice that
I can get at HB. I could probably get it
at you know, other whole food type stores, but you know,

(01:39:30):
I was just looking and refreshing myself. And guava is
just like off the chart. One cup gives you one
hundred and uh. I mean, it gives you four hundred
and eighteen percent of your you know, daily value. Whoever
decided that, but it's it's pretty interesting. I'll probably go

(01:39:55):
ahead and put this UH link into our our rumble,
but Doc would be glad to know that you can
get one hundred and thirty four percent of your daily
value from kale, and I was less than thrilled to
hear that Brussels sprouts would give you one hundred and

(01:40:15):
seven percent. But yeah, it's pretty interesting. Papaya. Actually, oranges
are lower. They're like ninety two percent guaves, you know,
super high. I think they had something to do with
tropical fruits. Kiwis pretty high. So the recipe I'm going

(01:40:38):
to share tonight is old school, definitely. It It kind
of originated like in nineteen sixty two, and so it's
lemon bars. And you know, I even used to make
lemon bars, you know, when my kids were growing up,
and they loved them. And you know, they can be

(01:41:02):
not so healthy, but you can also put that healthy
twist on it. This one is designed specifically for iron
corn flour, and if you're gonna if you're a beginner
with the ironcorn flower, try to find recipes that are
designed for them. Because the protein in the ironcorn flower

(01:41:27):
is higher, so the liquid to flower ratio is less
than your ordinary all purpose flour the genetically modified junk.
So this is pretty simple. It is one and a

(01:41:47):
half cups of all purpose ironcorn flour and a quarter
of a cup of granulated sugar. Of course around here
we use the raw hull cane sugar, and you can
do that just fine. Quarter teaspoon of salt and then
three quarters of a cup of unsalted butter softened. So

(01:42:09):
basically this is like a short bread. And then you're
going to well, you're going to preheat your Ovento three
point fifty, you know, line the bottom of a nine
x thirteen, which is standard baking dish with parchment paper.
And I do this little thing where I keep my

(01:42:30):
butter wrappers and I fold them up and put them
in a baggy and keep them in the fridge. So
you can take one of those out and at the
same time you take butter out to soften it, bring
it to room temperature, and you can use that to

(01:42:51):
kind of rub it on that parchment paper so that
it won't stick. And then you spray not spray, they
say to spray it. I don't use spray. Well, I
use an Alvocado cooking spray, but I don't think I would.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Do that with lemon bars.

Speaker 7 (01:43:07):
And then you just press that in. Well, you've blended
it all together and kind of like you're gonna form
a dough, and then you just press that into the
bottom of your cooking dish and you're gonna bake that
for twenty twenty two minutes depending on your oven, and

(01:43:29):
then the feeling is super easy. Now keep in mind
that with the raw whole cane sugar, it's darker. You're
still going to get the sweetness, but you're not going
to have that pristine lemon yellow lemon color to it

(01:43:50):
because you're using the raw whole cane sugar. It's better
for you. If you wanted to, you could, and Doc
will be glad about this. You could, you know, one
for one, substitute monk fruit, granular monk fruit if you

(01:44:13):
wanted to keep that that really pure lemon yellow color.
To me, it doesn't matter. But it is a cup
and a half of granulated sugar, and of course we substitute,
and then a third of a cup of all purpose
iron corn flour, three quarters of a cup of fresh

(01:44:38):
squeezed lemon juice, the zest of one lemon, and then
four eggs. So by this time you're putting all this together,
your your crust is done. Like the short break cust crust.
You can take it out and let it sit for

(01:44:58):
a bit. You're gonna reduce when you take it out,
you're gonna reduce the temperature to three hundred. So you're
gonna mix all of that filling together, lemon juice, eggs, flour, sugar,
and then you're gonna pour that on top of that
short crust or short bread that you made, and you're

(01:45:21):
gonna bake that for like twenty five to thirty minutes.
And of course this recipe, you know, it's traditional that
you take a little sifter and after it's cooled off,
and you put some powdered sugar on it and you
sift it on top. And but you don't have to

(01:45:42):
do that if you're gonna do it with regular powdered sugar.
Nearly every store has an organic version of it. Again,
docs Kung like this you can get from three Amazon
if you're store on sell it powdered monk fruit and

(01:46:03):
then you can sprinkle that on top. But you know,
if you're gonna if you if you're gonna have to
have extra vitamin cy it might as well taste good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
I know you didn't say monk fruit our kale.

Speaker 7 (01:46:27):
Okale, Oh, Brussels sprouts.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
I like Brussels sprouts, especially with garlic.

Speaker 7 (01:46:33):
And bacon, bacon and parmeersan tea. Really and truly, all
we're doing is masking the taste of Brussels sprouts.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Spoken from somebody that eats monk fruit.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
Well, you know what else is good? I made some
chocolate syrup last night, and I don't put regular sugar
in it, and I didn't have enough of Well, I
use that Goya because I like that company, the sugar cones,
you know, the raw sugar cones, and my recipe tech

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calls for two of those, and so I only had one,
and I added some granular raw sugar hocaine and it
wasn't quite enough, and so I added about ten drops
of liquid and monk fruit and it was parting.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Well, you don't have to send that care package.

Speaker 7 (01:47:39):
Well see, that's why I do recipes like that every
now and then.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Yeah, you're evil. I know, I know, honey. If you're listening,
God bless you.

Speaker 7 (01:47:50):
Man, more than likely he's still at the river. So
I did put this. Uh, I am putting the twenty
best vitamin sea foods in the chat at the Rumble link.
By the way, if y'all would go to doctor Cooper's

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Natural Health hours and give us a thumbs up and
give us a foul helped grow the chumo and we
would appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Yeah, and especially if your vegetables came from a good gardener, farmer,
rancher who knows how to take care of the soil,
it'll have all those wonderful things. Some of these government farms,
I don't think so. Hey, I have a new product, guys, Bill,
did you have anything on the lemon bars.

Speaker 8 (01:48:45):
No, it's been a while since I heard about it,
but I sure liked them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Yeah, sounds good. We're not going to get any from her,
but we're used to anyways. Standard Process has a new product.
It is called whole Food Folate with folate is one
of the B vitamins. And what they say here is

(01:49:10):
that it's got organic collared greens, it has organic turnip greens,
and it has golden chlorilla, And it says that the
organic colar greens turnip greens are all grown on their

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organic farm up there, and along with the chlorilla, which
is a superfood, provide a whole food source of vitamin
B twelve. Multiple forms of natural folate, including the physicological
active methyl and formal folate free from folic acid and

(01:49:53):
they're very important for your heart. Anything that's got to
do with methylation in the body and central nervous system
and your vascular system for your veins are to reason
all that good stuff. So a brand new product, Whole
Food Full Light, if anybody like to check it out.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
I like.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Organic collared greens and turn up greens. So I don't know.
I've never tried golden coral. I don't know about that one.
All right, Susie, we got a few minutes, God help us.
If you'd like to talk about anything, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:50:30):
So something interesting. You know. The flood at the Guadalagie
River happened early morning hours four four thirty, you know,
on the fourth, and so it was raining. I mean,
what is worse than cats and dogs, you know, I

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don't know. It was raining like something I've never experienced
here before. And we had I don't know, Stephen, I
don't know how long he's been here, but I want
to say maybe twenty years ago. We had twelve inches
of rain like on the the third. Well, we didn't

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have flooding at the river. I remember it. And it's
not uncommon to get a whole lot of rain just
before the fourth here and it's like our last big
rain until we get through August, and then you know,
about halfway through September. So I remember waking up and thinking,

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this isn't right. Something doesn't feel right. You know, you
get to where you know your environment, what it sounds like,
the amount of rain you get when it rains, you know,
those sorts of things. And I remember feeling this sense
of dread and getting up and looking out the window

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and going something, something's not right. Well lo and behold,
you know, we wake up, you know, the morning of
the fourth, and I found out what was wrong. Over
one hundred people were drowning and children are missing, just

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twenty minutes south of us. So of course you go
through the regular grief with that. I think my husband
and my son are working through their grief by being
boots on the ground every single day since the fourth.
And yeah, I'm patting them on the back. But what

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I found out about myself, and this lasted about a
week and I couldn't sleep at night. I had insomnia.
And I did it all everything you've taught me. I
did a glass of raw milk, I took an or
checks that didn't do it. Next time, I took an

(01:53:03):
or checks and I took two men checks that didn't
do it. So I've got a tincture of while let
us sleep. I added that to it. Or check two
mincheck raw milk, the wild lettuce leap which has has
you know, sedative properties. Nothing, And I'm like, this is unreal.

(01:53:28):
What's going on here? When you get to the point
you know that you're so sleep deprived. About ten days
into this, it just dawned on me and maybe Bill
can help me understand this. I realized that I slept
through children drowning.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Yeah, but you can't.

Speaker 5 (01:53:52):
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
It happens everywhere in the world. Every day people are dying. Unfortunately,
every day this was close to you. You and what
happened to you is the hormones were so out of
whack that cardosol was not high in the morning, it
was high at night, and it wouldn't let you sleep
because you were going through like a depression and anxiety

(01:54:16):
and you know, you couldn't let go. And everybody that
knows you knows when you get this kind of stress,
it wipes you out. And you're the last person to
figure that out. But I guarantee you your cardosol was
through the roof at bedtime, and you could not sleep
because of that.

Speaker 7 (01:54:37):
Right, it was. It was just horrible. And you know,
I told him, I said, if only figured out why
I tossed in turn all night every night, I don't
think I've been falling asleep probably until maybe an hour
before before daylight. It's horrible. And so I told him

(01:54:57):
what I figured out, and he said, there's nothing you
could have. I said that it doesn't matter that there's
nothing that I could do. In my head, I slept
through children, people in pets, drowning in the story.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Yeah, and I understand, and knowing you this all makes
perfect sense. But you have to realize every day somewhere
in this world and the only thing, you know, what
about all that out there that happened for me was
I'm angry and God would probably be throwing lightning bolts

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my way for what I've thought and what I said
about why does this kind of stuff keep happening?

Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
And I've been angry too, I mean, angry is not
even the right word. I go from crying to being
pissed off in a cycle.

Speaker 9 (01:55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Well, and you had not totally got through all the
other stuff. So this this was this pile and on
and you weren't ready to handle it.

Speaker 8 (01:56:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Uh, and I guarantee you if we had checked, your
cardosol was through the roof at bedtime and it shouldn't be.

Speaker 7 (01:56:10):
Well, that's the best way to bring that down.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Well, we would have gone to something like hypothalamus PMG,
simplex F. There are some products that specialize just in
trying to balance cortisol that they have on a full script,
there's a few things. But you were so ate up

(01:56:33):
that you didn't know what to do, and you didn't
ask me, so you suffered. And you're you guys were
so busy with all this that you didn't really have
time to slow down and think about it. But now
you can, and Nick, and you can't beat your up,
beat yourself up.

Speaker 7 (01:56:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
I ride a motorcycle and uh, I just read today
were some guy on ninety nine. I guess he didn't
make the curve and he flew off the ninety nine
and hit the concrete below and killed himself. And that
really bothered me, you know, because I can relate to
riding the bike and know how easy it is to

(01:57:16):
have something bad happen like that. But we have to
move forward. But this is Bill's area. Bill, jump in here.
We got a few minutes before we close up. But
what would you tell Susie on the other angle? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:57:38):
if i'd ask you no.

Speaker 8 (01:57:43):
Oh, but it's a very you know, yeah, yeah, you're
You're right about much of this because it is it
is a compilation of things. Damn so much of what
we what we're experiencing about all these folks out there

(01:58:03):
that this happens to. Yeah, we know that, you know,
everybody dies at some point, no matter where in the
world you are, or how good a carry you take
care of yourself. It's just as part of it. I
think that what what most folks are dealing with when
we're when we're responding to something like this, uh, the

(01:58:28):
flood was again, it's a sense of being helpless, and
I think we identify with that with these people who
have been lost in the flood. They were helpless. We
understand what helpless. Helplessness is a very universal reaction to

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the things that we just can't quite wrap our heads around.
And I don't think that there's this there's any any
way to reaally work through it except to give yourself time,
you're going to feel bad, it's going to hurt, you're
going to wake up. And the problem with your sleeping is,
you know, you miss a couple of nights good sleep

(01:59:15):
and you're you're messed up for a week. It takes
such a while to re establish that sleep cycle. It's
not going to happen overnight. You know. One of the
things that I've occasionally taken when I have a couple
of nights of bad sleep is a NIACENTIMI B twelve
or B six, and it's and it really it's a

(01:59:38):
very strange sleep, but I sleep through the night and
at least I get one night's restive, restorative sleep, and
that begins to kind of level things off again for me.
But that doesn't address the psychological issues of the helplessness
and the futility that I think so many of us
are feeling about. It's not about flood, but you know,

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all the bad stuff that goes on the world is there,
and you know, it's if if you say it's if
we could just kind of rule it out and not
get caught it. But it's it's a lot easier to
say that than it is to do it. And as
I said, it takes time, and we just have to
be patient and understanding. Like any healing process, it's not

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going to happen in a day or two days. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:00:29):
I think it's just the thought of, you know, hearing
so many stories. This happened in the middle of the night,
everybody's asleep. It happened too quick. It doesn't make sense,
you know. I'm pissed off about was it cloud seating?
The guy admitted he was doing it, And then I

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can't help but think about people in the middle of
the night waking up all of a sudden, their bad
is wet. Next thing you know, their camper, their mobile
home or even their house is floating down the river
and they're done.

Speaker 8 (02:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
Well, and and like I said, Susie, you had already
been through a lot and you had not totally got
out to the other side. Yet this was too much
for you. You might as well start thinking about the
Titanic and the Alamo and because everything was just wearing
you out. So yeah, I know. And Bill, that's a

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good thing about the niest that it might be six,
because that is that is going to help too. So
pretty tough, you know, it made me angry. I want
to say Hey, God, it's me. I'm checking in And
if you're reading my mind, you know it's a sin.
And I'm fed up with you letting the devil have
free rein because all the good people are suffering and

(02:01:51):
dying and feeling the pain. And I'm we all think
that and just kisses me off.

Speaker 7 (02:01:57):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
I don't know, don't have any answers, but I sure
got a lot of questions.

Speaker 7 (02:02:05):
I know we're at eight oh two, but I want
to take your time. I don't want to end this negative.
There's a couple they're both in their mid eighties and
someone's taking care of them here in Fredericksburg, and then
they replaced their RV and so they're being interviewed by

(02:02:25):
this lady that owns Full Moon and out by Lucabac
And she said, what's wrong because she had something, some
kind of bandage brace thing on her arm. She said
to the lady, did you hurt yourself with the flood?
She said, nope, that's how strong her husband was holding

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onto home.

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Oh cool, right, yeah, Well, you know we have to
push on. And Bill's talked about it many times. This
things can can really eat you up and wear you
down and you got to keep going.

Speaker 8 (02:03:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
And you guys have done a lot of good stuff
out there. And Suzy, you're one of those people that
tries to carry the world on her back. And I'm
afraid the world weghs too much. It does, all right, Bill,
anything you want to close with while we wrap it up.

Speaker 8 (02:03:25):
Uh, yeah, you would probably be able to clarify this.
But I saw on the internet the other day that
our President Trump has convinced Coca Cola to start using
whole cage sugar instead of that corn stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
What he did was he said, you know, you guys
don't use it anywhere else in the world, why are
you using it here? And they agreed quickly to stop
using it. I don't know how. Yeah, you know, they've
been trying to poison us and kill us, but they
don't do it anywhere else in the world. So that'll
tell us a lot. That's why I like pepsi. Pepsi's

(02:04:05):
had the throwback pepsi and mountain dew for years.

Speaker 8 (02:04:10):
Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
Me a weird weird holy man, take your camper away,
all right, guys, thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (02:04:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Steve producer in the background hiding from whoever you guys,
great great stories, great great stuff, Susy and Bill. I
know the audience loves you. We added another country this
week and I'm trying. Oh Canada, Yeah, well, Canada jumped
on the bandwagon with us. Thank god. We appreciate all

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you guys out there, and we hope we've been a
little entertaining, a little funny. Give you some food for salt,
give you some things to think about, maybe tell you
some things she didn't know, and you know, great stuff,
good recipes, good stuff from Bill. And we had a

(02:05:04):
little couple of hiccups early in the evening, but Steve
got all that worked out. Great producer. If you guys
want to see what he looks like, he's on our
website standing next to Fredericksburg Green sign. You can check
him out. Susie's there too. I think that's the homepage,
isn't it, Susie? Are you about about I think yeah.
You can see both of them. Bill, only place you're

(02:05:28):
going to see his picture is at the post office.
And you've already seen me too much, so you don't
need to worry about that. All right, Well, guys, thank
you so much. I know the audience loves you guys
as much as I do. And the great music and
the great jokes you just you can't get enough. So
may God bless you all with health and happiness, keep

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your lives peaceful, free and safe. And as you know,
it's time for scotched good cigars, and good.

Speaker 8 (02:06:03):
Night, good night all you know.

Speaker 7 (02:06:07):
God bless.

Speaker 14 (02:06:10):
Seems the love I've known has always been the most
destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so old
before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the taste

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of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue. I
teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
the way that even breeze may tease a candle flame.
The thousand dreams I dreamed, the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
Splendid things I planned.

Speaker 14 (02:06:51):
I always built to last on weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:06:55):
Shifting sand.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
I lived by night and

Speaker 14 (02:06:59):
Shunned, then get light of day, And only now I
see