Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 8-13-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill, and Producer Steve

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Speaker 4 (02:45):
Welcome everybody, Doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hower. It is August thirteenth, thirteen.
Has always been my lucky number twenty and twenty five.
And uh, I think we are all here. I'm I'm
not sure.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I know.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
We got Susie and producer Steve, and I think we
got Bill. But are you there? Bill?

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Ye? Mostly that's what I like.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Mostly, all right, So we got everybody. Producer Steve's hiding
back there behind the curtain. Susie's out there. So Susie
and Bill go ahead and say hello Susie.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Everyone, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Alrighty, so the opening gate has sounded tonight We're gonna
touch on bruising, and a lot of people bruise real easy.
A lot of people get cut and keep bleeding forever,
and a lot of times this is a simple but

(03:57):
very complicated problem that has had many partners along the
way before you got to this point. So we will
discuss all that. And of course we've got the most
wonderful songs, the fabulous jokes. That's why everybody's here, I
know that, and the interesting Bill's weekly topic, Susie's recipes,

(04:24):
and you never know. Our producer Seve's able to jump
in at any minute, so we'll just move right along there.
I did have one little thing. I've been watching politics
a little bit and it sickens me on a pretty
regular basis, but it is kind of interesting to watch

(04:45):
what's going on. And it seems like right now everybody
that was attacking President Trump and trying to say he
did this and he did that, and what they did
to him in New York where they said he cheated
investors but all the investors said, no, he did and
we're fine, and they still found him guilty. What a

(05:08):
surprise in New York. So now everybody that went after
him and admitted they were going after him. Leticia James
in New York ran on the fact that she was
going to get Trump for something she didn't know what.
But anyway, now they're all in the hot seat. Adam
Schiff that I forget that guy's name Stalwart or something, stallwell,

(05:37):
I think maybe he's in the hot seat. Nancy Pelosi's
in the hot seat. So it's kind of funny. It's
like a good old fashioned soap opera when you were
a kid and mom was watching it while she ironed,
so kind of enjoyable. So anyway, I just had to
point that out that the tables have turned, and it's

(05:59):
kind of it. You're seeing almost funny right now, where
normally politics is pretty boring. Okay, So if you know
somebody or yourself and you notice that you bruise easily
and it takes a while for them to go away,
there's what they call a really bad bruise, and then

(06:24):
there's the ones that in the easily bruised category that
turn black and blue. And a lot of times people say,
I don't know what I did, and that all they
did is bump something and they didn't think much about it,
but it because of their condition. It has a bruise,

(06:45):
and if you talk to people, and I've been told
this a lot, and I was just told this recently.
Also that the other side of the medical coin likes
to tell you at a certain age it's just normal.
But that's not true. Every problem that you ever experience

(07:06):
there's something, usually at a nutrient level that's missing or
not enough of her too much of something maybe if
it's synthetic confectionated. And so what you have to look
at is today everybody thinks that they can Google doctor

(07:27):
and they're going to be able to figure everything out. Well,
it doesn't work that way. And one of the reasons
doctors get good at what they do is thousands of
patients that they worked with and troubleshooted and listened to
and learn from. And you can't get that google doctoring.

(07:51):
And Google got caught several years ago by the British
Journal of Medicine scamming it up and they had to
pay a serious fine because what they were doing if
you punched in some symptoms, it was programmed to make
sure you had the worst case scenario and you needed

(08:13):
the pharmacy and surgery probably, and they got nailed for that.
But I don't think it changed because everybody tells me, well,
I looked it up and it said this, and they're
really scared. But the bruising thing, you got to go
back to the very basics. Number one, a lot of
people were taking medications that they never should have taken

(08:37):
to begin with, but for whatever reason, they went down
that road and it did a lot of damage. It
damaged the gut and the good gut flora, the digestive enzymes,
the stomach acid. It messed up with your gallbladder and
your liver and your stomach, and it's just a big nightmare.

(09:00):
And then what happens is a lot of people take
the medications, and even when they stop the medications, because
almost every patient I ever had ends up stopping the
stuff after I get to see them, they still have
lingering effects. And so you can try to eat good
and drink good and do all the right stuff. But

(09:25):
if your digestion is wrong, if the gut's not healthy,
if you don't have the right digestive enzymes and stomach acid,
and if your gallbladder and liver aren't functioning as a team,
you're in trouble. And if things don't process through the
small intestine from the stomach on their way to the

(09:46):
illeo seco valve to the large intestine. Then you're not
going to absorb the nutrients you need and you're gonna
have lots of problems, well, things like bruising. You might
be eating an orange tree full of oranges, but the
nutrients aren't getting processed in your gut, or maybe your

(10:10):
gut is not quite right and you're eating pretty good,
but it's not enough to offset the damage of the
medications from however long you took them, and usually people
take things pretty long. So then you're trying to eat right,
you're trying to drink the right things, you're trying to
do all the right stuff. But you bump your arm

(10:34):
and there's a bruise, and you're thinking, why, well, it
could be a lot of things. My very first thing
if somebody walks in and they're bruising, is we're going
to do something like diaplex because it's got digestive enzyme,
stomach acid, it's got liver, gallbladders, fleen, kidneys, urinary tract,

(10:57):
it's got everybody, and that way, I know we're getting
worse at the start point with digestion. I know we're
going to be right. Then we got to make sure,
like any kind of issue where your capillaries and veins
and arteries are fragile, we've got to make sure you

(11:20):
got plenty of natural nutrients, like natural vitamin C, because
varicose veins bruising, all that stuff has got to do
with natural vitamin C and the arteries, veins capillaries not
being healthy also they need natural vitamin E, and E

(11:43):
and C play some very similar parts in the body.
And then you got to make sure the liver's healthy
and the gallbladder is healthy, and the intestines aren't clogged
up from into out or infected or taken over by
bad guys. And so what should be real simple? You say, well,

(12:03):
i'm bruising, I need to just take something. Sometimes all
you need is natural vitamin C and start eating more
natural organic fruits with vitamin C and that'll help. But
most of the time I find that from taking the medications,

(12:24):
the gut has been damaged, the normal flora has been damaged.
And what people forget, and maybe many have never learned,
is that you have one cell thick of your gut
lining to the rest of the body one cell, so
you can imagine the damage from a medication might be

(12:49):
just enough to have damaged that one cell lining and
now you've got things getting out into the other part
of the body that shouldn't be going that way. That
can cause a lot of problems. So first thing, right
off the bat, let's do some diaplex, probably won every meal.
Then I suggest imuplex to keep this simple, because it's

(13:15):
got some glanulars like spleen and liver, and it has
gotten natural vitamin C. It's got dimus for T cells
for fighting infection. So now we've got diaplex and muplex

(13:36):
a real good start. Then we need to make sure
that you put some good fermented foods in your diet,
and we need to make sure circulation's good. So I
would suggest cardioplus and cataplex B or cataplex bekor which

(13:58):
has got both B vitamins, and those four things alone
would be a really great start, because the idea is
not to spend a lot of money, not to have
to take a lot of pills, but sometimes things keep
popping up and we're going to have to do more
until we get it under control. Now, if you looked
in my medicine cabinet. You'd swear I was dying because

(14:21):
I'm taking a thousand things. But it's because I know
different things are for different issues. And I have a
patient that had a ponting stroke, so we're working on that.
So I'm coming at things from all angles. And it's
really important though that you start somewhere. So if you're

(14:42):
bruising easily, and say you bleed easily too. Now bleeding
could be just a simple thing of not having natural
vitamin K to provide blood clotting so we don't bleed
to death. That's a good product for that is chlorophyll
complex and that or you can get liquid vitamin D

(15:08):
with the K two in it, and that's a good
thing to have. So but you know, we try to
keep it simple when you start, and then I tell
the patients listen to your body, give it a couple
of weeks, ten days, a couple of weeks, call me
if there's any questions. Don't stop anything without talking to me.

(15:30):
Don't take anything extra because a lot of times people
want a Google doctor it and take something that's just
a waste of their money, and I don't want to
waste their money. I just want them to get well,
so bruising first thing is important to know the history
of the patient. And most of the time when I've
had a patient with bruising, they had done a lot

(15:53):
of medications and also a lot of times they were
Google doc during and taking a lot of over the
counter stuff. That sounds wonderful, but it's not unless you
know you would bite This week before the show, I

(16:14):
looked at eleven or twelve advertisements on Facebook for vitamins, minerals,
liquid gels, everything in the world, and they all claimed
to be miraculous. One of them even said it was bioactive.

(16:35):
And then I looked at the ingredients of every single one.
I think there was twelve that I looked at, and
every one of them had vitamin C as a scorbic acid,
beta kerateene as vitamin A. It's not. They had mixed
to cofferoles or alpha takofferol for vitamin E.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
They had chromium piccolinate. It's not a good chromium for us.
They had a weak form of calcium, not even as
good as calcium carbonate, which is limestone. They had worse
ones than that, but everyone that I checked out of
the top ten nutrients that you would look for. They

(17:23):
were bad, they were synthetic, they were fractionated, they were
not good for you. And then they had a lot
of other stuff listed where all the names sounded really great.
But once you show me that you're putting plastic parts
in there that are not serving any purpose for the body,
I tend not to believe you on the names you

(17:45):
type after that. So think about all that when if
you're bruising, find a doctor you trust, call me, call
the show, go to our website that Susie created and
contact us. There's a function in there for that and
we'll be glad to make some recommendations and help you.

(18:07):
But right like I said, right now, diaplex very important,
emuplex very important, cardioplus, and cataplect speaker. That would be
the first four things I would go to to make
sure we got it covered. And then yeah, there's a
lot of things we can do depending on what your

(18:27):
body says. And I always tell the patients you listen
to your body. You tell me what it says. It'll
make me look smart, but we will figure it out.
Don't google doctor, it's a waste your time. And don't
waste your money buying a bunch of stuff because most everything,
like I saw the ten or twelve companies this week,

(18:49):
are all selling something that's not good, and they're telling everybody,
are you tired of vitamins that don't get absorbed? Are
you tired of wasting your money? Try this? And every
one of them makes you think, boy, that's the greatest
vitamin in the world. And no, it's not all right,

(19:10):
Susie anything.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Oh yeah, I think you're gonna have to add to
don't do Google doctor. I think you're gonna have to
add don't be a Facebook doctor. You know, there's so
many groups out there for for everything. Sometimes I hitch
my trailer to him just to read, you know, out

(19:34):
of curiosity and see what's going on. And uh, I
mean there's a couple, you know, I like to play
around with, you know, making tinctures and saves and bombs
and things like that. You know, nothing complicated. And so
there's a group out there for tinctures, and you know,
I've learned a little bit from it. But you know,

(19:55):
someone put up you know, I got shingles, what should
I do? And someone puts up Camphophonique or I don't
know whatever, that that pink stuff, not campophonique, that that
pink stuff whatever it's called, you know, the topical stuff.

(20:17):
And it just blows me away. You know that they're
not doing anything at all for inside, inside the body.
All they want to do is the easy stuff. Just
mirror some you know, pink liquid, you know, on their
issue and be healed. It's absurd.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
You definitely nailed it.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I had totally disregarded all that stuff on Facebook because
there's so much of it. And you know what's funny.
Everybody wants to be an expert so bad, and they'll
come on there and they'll tell people what to do
and how to do it. And I did this and
it made me walk on water. And most most of

(21:05):
the time it's the same lies that's being told by
different people.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Well, and you know, nowadays you have to be extremely careful,
whether it is Google or Facebook because of AI. You know,
that could be anyone out there telling you steps to
take for whatever ails you and they may not even
be real.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah, Bill, how about you?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Oh yeah, I said, just so, you raised a couple
of interesting, interesting points, And I think people seem to
have a need to want to trust somebody, but they
don't always Yeah, do a little research to find out
just who this somebody is. Man, somebody sounds like they're

(22:01):
a medical expert or a doctor, they have just jump
right all over it because well they're a doctor. You
know that. They know Whether they're a doctor or not,
it doesn't matter. It's a culture is just has been
twisted around in the last several decades to look for
quick fixes. And with so many things physically they're the

(22:25):
fixes are not quick. If you want them to really
be fixed, it's going to take time, and it's going
to take some cautious effort and some research and again
finding somebody to work with who knows what they're doing.
Have to do. How do you how do you verify
somebody's qualification for what they're claiming. It's it's very difficult.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, And I think too many people want to be
a doctor, but not enough to see thousands of patients
and put in the long hours and to go to
medical school and have to go through all that. Because well,
I'll tell you what, when I chose to go down

(23:13):
that road, I did pre med at night and it
took me a year longer than if you went pre
med on your own without having to work. And then
when I hit medical school, there was many a times
that I thought, oh my god, what did I get into?

(23:33):
But today everybody thinks they can google it, know everything,
give bad advice, sell bad vitamins. And I'm amazed. Like
I said, right now, there's at least twelve that I
checked this week so I could mention it during the show,
and not one of them. Disappointed me in the fact

(23:56):
that I expected to see the synthetic fraction vitamins and
yet they tell everybody everything. There was one today popped
up right before the show, a kids vitamin and it
was vitamins. It was kids see something, So I thought,

(24:18):
this is interesting. Let's see if they put natural vitamin
C for the kids. Vitamin C as oscarbiek as it
not good. I tell everybody, when you're looking at your vitamins,
you don't have to know anything. You don't have to
ask anybody anything. If it says vitamin whatever, as it's

(24:45):
not real, it's not good for you, it's non natural,
and you don't want to waste your money. But people
are taking so much of that stuff. And I'll bet
you on from what I saw on Facebook they're making
a fortune and they've got I don't know if it's
AI or real, but they got all these people saying,

(25:06):
how wonderful this is my vitamin from now on. And
I know what's going on. Even in the beginning. When
you take a bad vitamin, he'll get a natural euphoria
for a little while while it robs your body of
the nutrients that you have the complete nomadic weal process

(25:27):
to get rid of the stuff you're taking, and then
pretty soon you're sicker than you were to start. So
very sad. I have to tell this story. I had
a gentleman and his daughter knocking my door the other night,
and they were carrying a bag of baked goods, and

(25:49):
I thought, man, that's great. I'm impressed they're out there
walking door to door trying to make some money. He's
got his daughter with him, teaching her some, you know,
decent stuff. And so I said, I opened the door.
I said hello, and he said, we have a little
bakery we're opening up. And I said, I'll buy from

(26:09):
you as long as you could tell me there's no
canola oil. Well guess what everything was canola oil? And
he the poor guy, I'm guessing he was about forty
years old. His daughter looked like she was about eight,
but he said he had a twenty year old also.

(26:29):
But anyway, he did every excuse in the book, and
he did so good, and he had his hat turned backwards,
and you know how much I love that. So I
reminded him, first off, canola oil is a poison. He
didn't know that. And he said, well, we're trying to
use it, and later we're going to use something. I said, no, no, no, no,

(26:51):
you don't understand. I'm not telling you to make you
feel bad. I want to help you. I'd like to
see you do well. And I love those kind of
baked goods, but they got to be with good ingredients.
And you're going around trying to poison people and you
don't even know it. And I told the daughter, I said,

(27:12):
when you get home, throw all that canola oil away
so we'll see. And I told him that you know,
you're wearing your hat turned around backwards, which serves no
purpose in Houston with the sun protecting your face and eyes.
And I said, and the kids laugh when they see
grown men with a family with the hat turned backwards,

(27:34):
because you're not a rap star. And that's who they
listen to. So I said, you know the hat turned
backwards and canola oil.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
Well, today, he'll never knock on your door again.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Well, I hope he does. I told him, if you
get rid of the canola oil, I will be a customer,
but it needs to be good ingredients.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Yeah, but see, the problem is not nine people will
go oh cool, Yeah, we'll start shopping there and you won't.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Well, I hope that he listened because I told him.
I said, I don't want to make you feel bad.
I want to help you, and I'm not asking for
anything other than that you make a good product and
I'll buy it from you. I said, here, you're out
making all these excuses. I said. The reason people use
canola oil one maybe they don't know, and two it's

(28:29):
very cheap. But I said, unfortunately, it tastes bad. So
if you're making bakery goods and you want people to
buy on more than once, don't put poison in there.
So he'd but he spent a lot of time trying
to make excuses for using canola oil, and I could

(28:50):
it seemed like a really nice guy too. I felt
really bad, but I could not let him walk away.
Thinking canola oil was going to be a good thing,
and I didn't. I won't even think about that before
he went to some house and sold some So anyway,
it was kind of funny anything on that before we
go to break Susie.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Well'll not exactly on that. But you know, back to
this huge market of artificial vitamins, and I think it's
like peeling onion. There's many, many layers, you know. I
saw last week that the medical community's approval rating was

(29:37):
very low, like in the twenty five to thirty percent.
And I think that there is an awakening right now
going on for like natural remedies. I mean, if you
look on Facebook and you can just do like a
cursor research for you know, natural remedies. Making tinctures Mullin

(30:01):
right now is a big deal. Whild let us sleep
is a big deal. But even though people have good intentions,
they don't know really how to use these things. And
it's sometimes it's not just making a tincture out of mullan.
If you think about doctor Weed's formula for bronchial health,

(30:26):
you know, it's got quite a few different herbs in there,
and so all of a sudden, it's like it's Mullen
and it's iver Makedon. You know, it just blows me away.
So I give people a little tiny speck of credit

(30:47):
for trying to find something else, but they haven't quite
found the right road to travel down. So when you
combine that with the approval rating of the you know,
establishment medical, I see a phenomenon happening, and I think
it's right for teaching people.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well, we've been doing that forever, and the problem is
now with Google doctoring, many people think something like molin
is what they need. And one of the things you
find out one that's far from what you're going to need,
even if you knew how to do the herbal stuff.

(31:32):
And two it's usually a very very poor quality that
people are selling out there.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Well, it's not just that people will say things like
is this let us leave? I found it on the
side of the highway and I'm just creams. You know,
it's palm to face because number one, they don't know
how to identify it. That's dangerous. And then on the

(32:02):
side of the highway where they spray. You know, even
if you're in an urban area and you find it
way back in your backyard, they spray for mosquitoes. You know,
they spray insecticide up and down alleyways, in streets and highways,

(32:22):
and I mean I would I'd have to go off
in the middle of the woods somewhere if I really
and truly had to forge for you know whatever herb.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, And unfortunately people don't understand there's a very complimated,
complicated process to make these things. It is not just
go see them on the side of the world and
dump them in your pot and you're going to have something.
You're going to have nothing. So very very sad. A
lot of people are being lied to, and they're gullible

(32:54):
when they're desperate, and they'll spend all their money, bill
anything before we go to break.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
No, it'll wait.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
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Speaker 2 (36:28):
But I mean ride a living good.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
I'm doing have a thing said out Look. All right,
we are back and he's probably drinking some of that
tequila that Steve talked about, but he said rum and Cox.
I don't know. I think you'd be drinking tequila down
there anyway. This is doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. We

(36:53):
are back. We've got Susie Bill, myself and producer Steve
behind the curtain. Bill, well, you had something you were
going to talk about in reference to what we were
talking about right before break take it away.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, it was we're talking about gathering herbs and stuff,
and I think that's changed. And when we're back in
the well, probably up until the nineteen late seven days
and eighties, people would see chickery growing along the highways,
and it's the same chickery they put in coffee. The

(37:32):
beautiful flowers. And if if you did enough research and
got good text, good books to read, and really understood
what you're doing, you could you could go out and
get get the stuff that you needed or wanted. It's
so but that was the problem. Most people didn't. It's

(37:56):
like going out and gathering mushrooms. It's one of the
things I learned earlier. We always used to go out
in the early spring looking from moral mushrooms, which is
a big deal up in the Midwest, and we had
many of them, and we had places that we used
to go where we could always find them. But there
are a couple of lookalikes that are not particularly good

(38:18):
for you. And so again, you know, you really have
to understand what what you're looking at and what you're
looking for. Not all of this stuff grows everywhere, and
it's a it's a very risky business. Trying to find
good herbs in a store or trying to buy them

(38:41):
is very it's a tough thing to do. We don't know.
We don't know where they come from. We've talked about
being able to trust organic, organically labeled things. Yeah, unless
I grow these, unless I grow my own herbs, I
don't buy them in a store.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Well yeah, and that's a good thing unless you know
who you're buying with. Like, we have a lot of
herbal stuff from Standard Process in medi Herb, and I've
been to the farm, I've seen the process. I know
what they're doing, and like Susie mentioned before, they were
very worried about anybody around them using chemicals and their

(39:24):
properties that it might get to Standard Process and medi
Herb stuff. So they really really monitor that with the state.
And people don't understand. You can't get a lot of
the nutrients unless you're trained in this field, and you
need the alcohol. They use organic natural fermented alcohol and

(39:50):
it makes the tinctures. And without that you can't extract
the groups of plant constituents like resins and essential oils
and alkali and all that stuff that other companies might
use solvents, and that's bad for you and not doing
you no good. That's kind of how they do decaffeinated coffee.

(40:10):
They use trichlori ethylane and run the beans through there,
and that takes away the caffeine that leaves you with
the chemical very bad. So there's a lot of things
to learn. And in the old days we didn't have
to worry about them spraying round up and dusting for
mosquitoes with airplanes over our crops, so it was a

(40:33):
little safer. But it's a real art. I mean, to
be an herbalist and only do herbs. There's a lot
to that, and you're not going to get it by
pulling up on the side of the road today and
pulling it out. You'll get maybe some benefit, but nothing
like an herbalist who knows how to extract the nutrients

(40:53):
the right way, and they've studied that for thousands of
years probably in this world. Something I wanted to bring up.
Standard process just recently went to a new line of
cat and dog and I guess horses and everybody else supplements,

(41:16):
and they for the cats and the dogs, they call
it spirited Paul P. A. W. And I'm looking here.
They've got dental, they've got joint and mobility in one bottle.
They've got health and vitality in another bottle. They've got
probiotic and gut health in another bottle, and they've got

(41:37):
calm in another bottle. If you've got a chihuahuah or
Jack Russell terrier, calm might be a good thing because
those little animals just yep, yep, yep, yep. All right,
So we covered the thing about bruising, and like I said,

(41:58):
it can be a lot of things, and it can
be real simple in some cases. But a good start Emuplex, Diaplex, Cardioplus, Cataplex,
pa core four good products to start inexpensive, and I'll
be glad to tell people how to take them if

(42:18):
they want to want to get those, and we'll work
with you. Sometimes people will tell me, well, I read
the bottle. I didn't need to ask you. I said,
the bottle says take such and such generic to make
the government happy. And then right below that it says,
or as your doctor or healthcare professional tells you. And

(42:41):
I said, I am that doctor or healthcare professional. You
don't want to listen to the box because that's generic.
I mean, it's not going to hurt you, but it
may not solve your problem. Yeah, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Here.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Three tablets per day are as directed. Well, I am
the as directed and I want to help you, and
my goal is that you don't have to take a
lot of pills. And whenever we can, we've put some
on the shelf and save them for when we need them.
And then if we're fighting fires, what we deal with,
what we have to do. So anyway, now they got

(43:21):
standard process is spirited Paul a whole new line that's
kind of cool. And another thing I wanted to bring up,
since we were talking about herbal stuff and things, you
can find some products have to be lightly cooked, just
like you have to use alcohol and some herbal things
to pull the nutrients out, and God only knows how

(43:43):
they learn done. But like spinach, when cooked, much more
iron and calcium is available from the spinach. Oxalate acid
blocks these nutrients from being absorbed, but it breaks down
under cooking, so then they're absorbed. So if you're if

(44:06):
you're a health nut and you think we're all spinach
is the way to go, you're wrong. Mushrooms. Bill brought
these up many nutrients and different mushrooms, potassium, niasin, zinc, magnesium,
all kinds of good stuff, and their potency is increased

(44:28):
when they're cooked, not barbecued. To death, but you know,
sautate kind of thing. Same with carrots. Carrots have powerful
antioxidant stuff and it jumps up way up when you
lightly cook them, if they're boiled or steamed until tender.

(44:52):
Asparagus same thing, multiple multiple studies how good nutritional from
cooking asparagus versus to try to eat it raw tomatoes.
I like raw tomatoes, but cooking them boosts the availability

(45:12):
of lycopene, which is very good for men's prostate, and
also other herbs that are in there for the chronic
diseases and heart disease. And then broccoli and cauliflower uncooked,
there's a little bit of stuff, but it can cause
a lot of digestive problems when you likely cook them.

(45:37):
These cruciferous vegetables as we call them, makes it much
more easy on your stomach, activates the proper enzymes, and
we enhance the disease busting compounds in there. So this
is why you don't want to go today unless you're

(45:57):
trained and you really know what you're talking about and
try to do your own stuff, because there's a lot
of things the average person isn't going to know one
hundred years ago, two hundred years ago, they knew a
lot of different stuff. The soil was healthy, nobody was
spraying it. It was a different world. I think, probably

(46:17):
a lot more healthy world. But nobody talks about that today.
They want to spray everything with chemicals. So is he
anything on all that?

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Yeah, I like my chryciferous vegetables in a capsule. And
what in a capsule?

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah? Oh?

Speaker 6 (46:41):
I like broccoli. I like Brussels sprounce if you just
absolutely overwhelmed them with bacon and olive oil and garlic
and butter. But it's not my go to.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
But you know, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
It was four year maybe five years ago we were
grilling steaks out and uh, my daughter wanted asparagus. And
so it's kind of like, if mommy makes this asparagus, ooh,
you don't like it, but if your daughter makes it, oh,

(47:23):
this is great. Okay. So I held that against my
husband to all the way to today and beyond because
one of my favorite meals is some lightly sauteed asparagus
with a good steak. And you know that man has

(47:44):
not touched asparagus all of his life until the last
four or five years. Blows me away.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
How funny bill anything.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, you're talking about about Brussels sprouts. My dad always
we had him and and you know, they became a
boiled and I always liked him. I just like the
taste of My dad always called him brothels sprouse because
they're just little bastard cabbages.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
That's funny. Yeah, I'm like Susie. I like them sauteed garlic, onion, bacon. Oh,
that's heaven, all right. Well, it's that time of night
when everybody's dying for a good joke, and I know
you guys come here for the jokes and that wonderful music.

(48:34):
A cop pulls over this young girl and when he
walks up to the car, she's not happy, and she says,
do you know who my father is? And he said, no, ma'am,
your mother didn't tell you. I thought that was pretty good,

(48:54):
pretty good, all right. So a woman doesn't come home
home one night, and when she comes home the next day,
she tells her husband. And this joke's about loyalty, true loyalty. Anyway,
she tells her husband that I spent the night with

(49:14):
one of my friends. Well, the husband knows all of
her friends, so he calls ten friends that are in
her close circle, and every one of them says, now,
we don't know what you're talking about. She wasn't here.
So then one night, the husband comes home the next day,

(49:36):
doesn't make it home that night, and the wife says, well,
where were you? And he said, I spent the night
with one of my friends. So she calls around eight
friends said, yeah, he spent the night here, and two
of them said he's still here. That's loyalty. That's loyalty.

(50:00):
All right, there we got one. A wife texts her
husband and says, you know, he's already at work, and
she said, on your way home tonight, would you mind
stopping by the bakery and picking up some bread? And oh,
by the way, your girlfriend, Elizabeth, says I And he said,

(50:24):
text back, who's Elizabeth? Oh nobody? She said, I just
put that in there to make sure you read my text.
He said, who that was closed? He said, I'm with
Elizabeth right now, and I thought maybe you saw us.
She said, where are you? He said, I'm at the bakery.

(50:46):
She said, you stay right there. I'll be there in
just a minute. So she gets in the car and
she hurries over to the bakery because it wasn't very
far away, and she gets there, she don't see him anywhere,
so she texted him again. She said, where are you at?
He said, I told you I'm at work. I've been

(51:08):
at work all morning. Uh he said, but well, you
know you you were doing a little tests. I had
to do one back and he said, where are you at?
She said, I'm at the bakery. He said, well, hey,
as long as you're there once you bring home a
loaf of bread. I thought that was great. I thought

(51:31):
that was great. All right, what else do I got here?

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
What do you call a milkman wearing pantyhose? A dairy queen?
That test is wrong? I uh, you know, I once

(51:56):
uh liked Joe name of the football player, but he's
done every stupid commercial and you think he was on
food stamps and having to make a living, and you know,
he won the Super Bowl and he's probably been filthy
rich ever since, but he's always doing an ad. My

(52:19):
favorite funny that I was the wife thinking she got
him by texting your girlfriend's ear, and then he played
her and she ended up having to bring the bread home.
I thought that was great, and he joked, you guys,
he got any now.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
I skipped it this week because I want to be inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Bill, I got a question for the head doctor and you,
this has come up in my life. Yeah, this has
come up in my life many, many times, and I
have always formed my own opinion. But I don't under
understand why it happens. I have noticed that when some

(53:04):
people drink, they're happy and they're fun to be around.
Other people are just quiet and recluse, and some people
are just mean and angry. But one thing that I
noticed in common of all of them is that when
they're drunk are stoned as the case, maybe they will

(53:28):
say things, and sometimes they're very revealing and wow, like
I didn't know that happened, or you did that. And
then when you talk to them and they're sober, not
only do they deny that it ever happened, but they

(53:50):
deny that they ever said it. And I said, well,
of course you would deny that you were drunk. You
probably forgot or maybe it's something you don't want to remember.
But what I don't understand, what is the truth. Do
you think I'm knowing your experience that you have an
answer for that is the truth? When they're drunk and

(54:11):
sown and they let the truth come out or is
the truth when they're sober.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yes, that's what I figured.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Soon as he stopped that don't encourage you.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Well, the problem with those kinds of mood altering substances,
whether it's alcohol or or drugs, is it lowers the
hibitions there. You know, we lose our inhibitions about talking
about things. A lot of stuff that people talk about
when they're under the influence are things that they have

(54:48):
kept secret for years, decades whatever. A lot of times
they are fantasies that people will tell talk about when
they're all the experiences they've had doing this and the
other thing and there. It's all kind of made up,
but it's it It taps into a part of our

(55:10):
uh of our psyche that it's just a different reality.
And I've learned of after many years of watching this stuff,
that when somebody has had a little too much to
drink or had a little too much to smoke, it
can be interesting. But how seriously do you take that?

(55:34):
And it depends on the person, it depends on the situation,
but usually not very much. But it's it's it's just
destroys or normal normal. I almost sound like I was
in the Midwest. I said normal. It destroys our normal
sense of of balance and of of what is appropriate

(55:57):
and what is what is our real I mean, we
all have multiple realities. We've talked a little bit about this,
and from time to time and when when we've had
too much to drink or whatever, the barriers, the barriers
go away, and it's just not Oh yes, A friend

(56:20):
of mine in Minnesota usually say let's go out and
get drunk so we can be important. It's just, you know,
it just doesn't resist, it doesn't work. That's a good question.
I mean, well, why do why do people do that?
A lot of times people drink too much or smoke
too much because it allows them for a moment to
find a sense of a freedom, a sense of being

(56:47):
a different part of their personality. But it's that their
real personality. I mean, what's what's truth? What's truth? Who
are we? Who the hell knows? Well?

Speaker 4 (57:01):
The reason I brought it up, It's happened to me
many times in my life because when I've had a
few drinks one, I don't like to get drunk, so
I tend not to. But I'm still me. I don't
you know change much from drinking or not drinking. But

(57:22):
I've noticed a lot of people that I've been around,
and I've been told some stories that blew my mind
and the detail was so perfect that I was sure
it was true. And then a few times over the
years in my life, I would bring something up and say,

(57:43):
you know, you told me this the other night when
you were drinking, and they said, I don't remember that.
I know I didn't do that. I said, I think
it did.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, well that's kind of a violent And you
know you said that when when you had a few
drinks that didn't change you very much. But what would
somebody that you were talking to say about that, Well.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
They usually everybody usually tends to drink more than me,
so they probably wouldn't remember. When I was in the Navy. Yeah,
when I was in the Navy, you make it a
point to go to the bars. We would we'd go eat,
but everybody we'd go hang out at different bars. And

(58:33):
in Italy, I remember getting this three liter mug of
beer boy that was big, and I don't think any
of us finished it. And then luckily for us, the
trolley car was right there. You didn't have to walk
and take you back to the pier where the liberty
boats could pick you up. But but I noticed with

(58:54):
me that at a certain point whatever I was drinking
didn't taste good no more, so I would stop. But
a lot of my friends would drink from the time
we left the boat to time to get back for
quarters in the morning, and that there were different people

(59:15):
when they got that drunk, and some of them were
so used to doing it that after a while, as
long as they didn't have to pass the driving test,
a lot of people wouldn't have known they were drunk.
But some of the stories I've been told by people
just blew my mind. And then they'll tell you I
didn't say that, I never did that. I said, you

(59:38):
couldn't have described it so perfectly to me had you
not done it. That's not possible. I said, there's no
doubt in my mind that after you had been drinking,
you told me the truth about that particular story. And
I'd find that what happened a lot of times, and
a lot of people either have selective memory. When the

(01:00:00):
sober they truly don't remember, are they're embarrassed to remember,
and they don't want it brought back up so I
don't know. That's why I wanted to throw it out
to you and see what your take was. I'm sure
you've had to deal with that before.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I'm time, oh and it's break time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
But I wanted to say one thing real quick. People
wonder how the drugs mess them up. And there are
lots of drugs that will steal nutrients from the body
when you take them. A lot of the heart medicines
and the cholesterol medicines, they will steal coenzyme Q ten

(01:00:46):
and selenium, vitamin A, P twelve, vitamin D, magnesium so
you could see, and vitamin K one of them for clotting,
and they'll take away like calcium. Calcium is very important
for get out to the tissue, and they'll take away

(01:01:09):
vitamin C and folic acid and iron. So what happens
when you take these drugs, Not only is there the
effect of the drug that the pharmaceutical guys wanted, but
it steals from your body, which is how we get
to that state where now I'm not taking them anymore,

(01:01:32):
but I still bruise easy. And I've seen it with
a lot of people. My mom was one of them.
She would look at something and be bruised, and in
those days she was taking a lot of medications and
we've worked to get her off of it, but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Not all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
I can't win the battle, and I don't live there anymore.
So that for a lot of you, if you're wondering
how did my medications do that? They steal a lot
of the nutrients from your body when you take the meds,
and that's what happens with women on the pill. It

(01:02:11):
steals a lot from them, and it messes up their
their hormones and they're you know, they can really become
a basket case. All right, anything before we go to
break suiting, I forgot all right, Bill, you stop teaching
her that, Bill, anything before we go to break No,

(01:02:34):
I can't remember you help?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Hm, well, I drank chack. I drink a little too much.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I've done things, but I regret.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
We won't get to that. Just yeah, the girl, I'm
a miss Well, I can't see you look like heaven.
I've been through hell.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
I don't okay if I did, I think we can
make this work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
He must be crazy, sus me, w O you'll mind?

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
Not body who I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
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see you won't en.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Me.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
I don't think you want to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I'm gonna you must spence crazyus me.

Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
If you that's my ex, she'd say, run what I five?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
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you around the loma.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
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Speaker 7 (01:06:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I'm not there yet.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to Doctor groupa's
Natural Health hours. It is time for Bill's weekly topic.
So Bill, take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Carry it off.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, this kind of ties into something you were talking
about a little bit ago, but before the break. But
for many years, I've been kind of interested or amused,
or sometimes concerned about how things that we haven't thought
about for maybe decades, just all of a sudden pop

(01:07:47):
back into our heads. Occasionally we'll remember a melody of two,
a song we haven't heard for twent thirty years, and
all of a sudden, we're rehearing the whole thing again,
And where does where does that come from? One of
the things that came into my head this weekend was
something that we talked about when I was in school,

(01:08:10):
and it was one of those kinds of topics that
some university faculty just get really excited about. It's almost
like a fad that they talk about and they talk

(01:08:31):
about and they talk about it, and it's very clear
that they really don't know what it is. I don't
have any concept about what the feel is. But this
particular one that I was thinking about was a called thinking,
and I've talked about just before on the show and

(01:08:51):
quite a while since I've done that. But the whole
idea of critical thinking was it was very at that point.
Everybody was very critically and use this as as a
tool for just almost everything, but nobody seemed to be

(01:09:12):
able to find it. And it's, uh, one of the
things that we've talked about, and you mentioned again that
tonight about listening to your body and listening to your
listening to what your body's telling you. Critical thinking to
me means removing the emotionality from the process. Most of

(01:09:39):
most people that I know, and I certainly do this
a lot too, is we tend to confuse feeling about
things the way we feel about something. We can to
confuse that with thinking. The two distinct processes. And if
we think about critic writes a play or a piece

(01:10:05):
of music, or a book critic or a literary critic
or an art critic, there's somebody who looks at a
particular I'd never thought or a piece of piece of
work very objectively, very disinterestedly, and hopefully without much emotion

(01:10:34):
or opinion, but just stating kind of where things are
and when. When thinking about this a little bit more
over over the last few days, it's how often do
we when we have something that we need to think
about our feelings from that process, because, as I said,

(01:11:00):
those are two distinct aspects of that endeavor, and having
to think critically about our health or think critically how
we're feeling physically. Feel bad. Now that doesn't really say anything.

(01:11:23):
I mean, what what what? What does that mean? Well,
you know I feel bad, I don't feel good. Well,
I don't know what you're bad or what you're good is.
And this is this kind of I just said to
what you were talking about with folks who can't remember
stuff that that they've just said or thought about because

(01:11:44):
of mood overing substances. But how do we how do
we just really define a problem or something that's confronting
us or concerning us objectively to be able to form
some kind of a as we used to say, a

(01:12:05):
treatment plan to find a way to deal with the issue.
I think again, as as the first part of the
process of really defining a problem, understanding why I feel bad,
understanding why I'm feeling depressed, understanding why my back hurts?

(01:12:29):
What have I done? What have I how? How did
I get to this point? We have to be able
to objectify that part of the exam and then balance
it with with the emotional part. I think that that
as we work through particular almost every day, it is

(01:12:57):
a two part process, and we need to understand that
we can't just do one and figure that it covers
the whole ball game. It doesn't. We've got to readly
do both. And the more serious issue, the more important
is to have that that separation and uh, the completion
of the ballots about engaging not only what do I

(01:13:19):
think about something? But how do I? How does that?
How do I feel about that? You think about ethical
questions that you can frequently, uh, it come up with
both sides of that and the ones that you know
I remember as a kid was well, you know, if
a guy steals, steals things to be able to support

(01:13:43):
his family. The ethical issue is did he break the law? Yeah,
he's stole stuff. The feeling part of that emotional part
of it is yeah, but he had to feed his family.
His family was starving. So where do you you where
do you draw that line, and how do you begin
to combine that a hard intellectual fact that he'd broken

(01:14:09):
the law and broken a cultural custom. How do you
balance that with the fact that he had to feed
his family, So keeping those processes separate, but understanding that
they have to ultimately balance each other off so that
we can find some way through that. The other thing

(01:14:32):
that just led into was what I've talked about a
couple of times on the show, but again it kind
of came up this week was what I call critical listening.
You know, I have many people they were a good listener,
but I met anybody who are How do we listen? Certainly,

(01:15:02):
and my affection as an issian, being able to critically
listen to what a person is talking about requires a
lot of practice. It's not something that is that critical thing.

(01:15:22):
It's not something that I think comes easily to most folks.
I think we have to we have to train ourselves
to do this. And where most people are not good
listeners is they keep interrupting. You know, when I was
in school, they never they never brought this up. But

(01:15:43):
if you know you've got a patient coming in and
it's talking about something that's that's causing them difficulty. You know,
our minds as explinicians are kind of whirling around processing
what they're telling us with what we understand clinically, and
what are we going to do about it? And really

(01:16:06):
the only thing that we really need to do is
just listen very focusedly. And this again comes back to
the critical thinking and the critical listening. If we're thinking critically,
we have to eliminate all kinds of intellectual distractions. What
is the problem clearly, stimply and cleanly. If we're listening,

(01:16:28):
we have to not hear the doors slamming down the hall,
We have to not hear things outside. We have to
listen only to what that person is saying. And to
be able to screen out of an extraneous noise in
a conversation is it's not easy. We have to have

(01:16:48):
to learn how to do it. But to listen to
a patient talking about things that have bothered them, perhaps
for many, many years, part of the process is letting
them talk about it. Part of the process is simply
listening to what they're saying, while at the same time,

(01:17:11):
in our inner mind we are we're going different places
with it. We're thinking about why and how and how
how has this distorted your life, and how have you
been able to cope with this? And why have you
decided at this point of your life that this is
something that you need to talk about. What brought that on?

(01:17:33):
It's again coming back to listening to what our body,
or listen to what our mind is telling us. If
we have what we used to call behavioral distortions, if
we're aware that we're behaving differently than we usually do,

(01:17:55):
if we're irritable. Talked about this a little bit last week.
For if we're irritable, or if we're jumpy, or if
we're depressed. It's one thing to feel irritable or jumping
to depressed, but critically thinking about that, we're looking for causality.

(01:18:16):
We're looking for what what brought on that irritability, or
what brought on that jumpiness, what brought on that depression
or whatever happens to be Where did that come from?
It's all part of the makeup of each one of us.
Every every person has within the capability to be anxious

(01:18:38):
or to be depressed, or to be irritable or be
jump here, to be angry. But where are the triggers
and what are the what are the limits that we
put on on that behavior, and when that behavior becomes distorted,
what caused that. Now, if somebody who has chronic pain

(01:18:59):
doesn't have to be intense pain, it can be fairly
mild pain. But if it's chronic, it goes on for weeks, days, weeks,
it's going to distort their behavior. To be aware of
that behavioral distortion is the beginning, and it's a critical thinking.

(01:19:20):
The critical listening part of that. Listening to yourself, listening
to what's going on in your mind, feeling what's going
on with you physically, is part of the beginning of
healing that I think, you know, working with a lot
of not a lot, but with a number of elderly people,

(01:19:41):
and by as I become older, I noticed that my
definition of elderly keeps being pushed farther and farther back.
So many aspects of their lives drop up. They just
kind of come into their mind all of a sudden.
They haven't thought about the horrible things they said to

(01:20:01):
their dad, or the horrible things they said to their mother,
or somebody's feelings that they hurt, or you know, you
talked about bruising a little while ago. Mean, a lot
of people get emotionally bruised just as easily as physically bruised,
and the ability to confront that and talk about it

(01:20:24):
and recognize that not only have we been bruised, but
we've probably bruised other people as well. What drove that
was that situational was there a long term pattern here?
Was that caused by the fact that my neck hurt
for years and I couldn't never do anything about it.

(01:20:45):
We have to be able to critically look at ourselves
in a way that allows us the option to create options.
If we just kind of get lost in the emotionality
of feeling bad or feeling down, or feeling if we
if we don't stop and really begin to take that

(01:21:08):
apart intellectually, we just get lost in that emotionality of it.
It's kind of a dead end. We stay there for
a while, and it is until either we get tired
of feeling bad that we begin to do something about it,
or it just sort of occurs on us on that
says on its own, and we understand that we can

(01:21:30):
take a we haven't they have a thereity to take
to make a choice here. We can continue to say
the way we are, or we can change and if
we're going to going to change, what do we need
to do and how do we begin to do that?
And is there a reasonable manageable way to really undertake

(01:21:52):
behavioral change? How do we how do we begin to
recognize that we can't we can't fix this, We're not stuck.
It's a choice if we've you know, as I said
last week, once once we begin to take a problem apart,

(01:22:13):
we've taken out of the emotional aspect and like the
emotional part of it, and we've created a series of choices.
And one choice is to go back to just feeling bad,
to do doing the things we've always done, or the
choices to begin to consciously make substance of change and

(01:22:34):
understand that that's a long process. The critical thinking and
critical listening is really screening, filtering out, screening out the
distractions to the core of the issue, whether it's a
thought process or a listening process. And you know, as

(01:22:55):
I found as a therapist, you know, if you're listening
listening to somebody, I mean really listening to what they're saying,
and there's a couple of levels there where they're they're
talking about about a particular problem, but they're also describing
an underlaying a series of events and learning to listen

(01:23:16):
to all of that. It's hard work, it's exhausting. A
lot of therapists who are you know, don't don't work
much more than six hours a day because it's physically
just too draining to deal with a kind of trauma
all the time. Okay, how do we deal with that
as a therapist? How do we begin to separate our

(01:23:38):
own emotionality from the physicality of it or the intellectuality
of it. So learning how to really objectively approach almost
everything that we talk about that has to deal with decisions,
or has to deal with with feelings or with things
that we need to do. It takes time, it takes practice,

(01:24:03):
and it's not easy, but I think we can all
do it within the capabilities that each one of us has.
And I think that's our job. I think that's our responsibility.
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
As always deep and interesting stuff you're all on the
screen is so appropriate? Have you seen that Bill? Have
you seen the Yeah? Yeah, it's pretty pretty cool?

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Pretty cool?

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Well sis he? Anything for the very deep deep head doctor?

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
The you know the part about you know, paying chronic pain,
that's you know, that's interesting. Interesting. You know, I think
that you know, in my case, I recognize it, and
I think when you when you do recognize it, that
you can make adjustments. Yeah, there's times when when I

(01:25:04):
can be grumpy and I'm like, Okay, it's been it's
been a tough you know, a couple of pain days.
I think the trouble is when you don't recognize what's
causing your bad behavior. And in some days, frankly, Bill,

(01:25:27):
I don't care. But that's very very very rare.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Now, but it happens. It happens, and that's part of
the process.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
I think we just need to send Huddle another sympathy card.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
It'll be all right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:44):
Well, you know, it's funny. He went to the grocery store,
and so I made him on a little short list
because I told him last night, I said, either I
get some watermelon or I'm gonna have to check into rehab.
So he decided that going to the store and getting

(01:26:05):
watermelon was cheaper, which means he chose to keep me
pacify me with watermelon instead of sending me off to rehab.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Well, you know the old saying, it's cheaper to keep
her all right, all right, Well, we're almost at break time.
That was pretty interesting stuff, Bill and Bill accused me,
ladies and gentlemen, uh, recently of sometimes saying words that

(01:26:43):
nobody knows what I said? How did you put a
bill that you're used to saying them types of things,
but the rest of us are.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Here, Well, yeah, I mean you're talking about some of
the products from Standard Process and you know you've been
dealing with this for a couple of decades, right, and
you understand them. But for those of us who are
perhaps trying to write it down or remember it or

(01:27:14):
at least understand, sometimes that's not it's not always very easy.
So so slowly, hell down, will you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
You think I was speaking in another language?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Sometimes I'm sure sometimes yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Well That's that's what's good about you guys, is you've
always managed to tell me when I said something that
makes no sense or nobody understood what I was talking about,
that I can rethink it, because You're right. Sometimes it
just pops in my head from things that I've experienced
and uh, I'm not thinking on the what's on the

(01:27:52):
receiving end? Did they get it that way? So I
always appreciate that kind of stuff. You and Susie have
been great. Sometimes been pained both of you, but I
get over it. But it helps me a lot be
better because if I say something and it went right
by everybody, then I defeated the purpose and I need

(01:28:12):
to make sure. So I really appreciate that you told
me that this week, and Susie's done it on several
things too, like Okay, no, I'll say that again. All right, Susie,
you got a recipe or two up your sleeve.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
Yeah, I've got a couple of them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
All right, Well, when we come back, we'll go right
to that after we help you out a little bit.
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Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
And back on the road again, b and you let
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doctor Natural Health Hours. It is my lucky thirteenth day

(01:32:04):
of August, and the thirteen is just always been good
to me. I used to love the fly airplanes on
the thirteenth because a lot of people wouldn't. They were
superstitious and I wasn't very crowded. Ill I used to
like that. That's before airlines changed, and now it's all terrible.
So anyway, we are back, and it is time to

(01:32:25):
help Susie. God bless her soul. What's the name of
the company, because by now the tequila and the tea
is kicked in and she struggles. So I am pretty
certain that the name of the company is Riding Sky
High and down to Earth. Construction.

Speaker 6 (01:32:47):
Well, that's different. It's actually renovating and design custom homes.
We also do rebundel and kind of specialize in rule
and ranch property. And living, and so we can be
You can go to doccrippet dot com, go to the
bat page, go down that three quarters of the way

(01:33:10):
and you'll see a link to our website and we
can be reached at a three zero three seven seven
two one three one.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
And you can also see a picture of the Lovely
and Talented Pistol back in Harper's Valley Pta Girl and
our producer Steve standing out there in the road next
to a Fredericksburg sign. He's on the website down there too,
so you can check them both out. Only Bill won't
give a picture because he's afraid they'll find him. But

(01:33:41):
other than that, we're okay, So Sissy take it away.

Speaker 6 (01:33:45):
Okay. So I think I've had a few recipes that
had something to do with the ranch dressing mix, and
so I just went and found the ingredients. You know,
I don't know every grocery store in the world, so
I just went to Amazon and it's this is packets. Now,

(01:34:11):
granted you can buy it, you know, in like a
bulk container, but it's three packets and it's nine dollars
and forty nine cents. So the very first so when
you read ingredient labels. The first ingredient is always the most.

(01:34:32):
Of course, the second one is the second most, and
on and on and so the first ingredient, like I said,
is salt, The second is MSG. The third is modified
corn stars, which you know that means it's from GMO corn.

(01:34:54):
It does say spices, it says onions melodextron, and it's
got gargum, and it's got calcium stereate, and it's got
dried milk and soy, and so that's pretty bad. You know.

(01:35:17):
I do read labels. I read labels on everything, and
you know, I don't want to eat that kind of stuff.
I don't want to spend time in the kitchen creating
something and then add this sort of a thing to it. Okay, So,

(01:35:41):
like I said, well, it's ninety six for three of these,
and I'm not remembering or seeing what what the ounces are.
That comes to a dollar eighty nine an ounce. I mean,
you know, give me a break, Okay. So each one

(01:36:01):
of these packets is point four ounces. So from that,
here's how you make your own. And this makes eight
ounces and you can put it in like a small

(01:36:24):
pint jar. I'll leave mine setting out, you know, my
my home is not really cold. You can put it
in the fridge, but all of this stuff is a
shelf stable. So I would say there's a comment in
here about you know, it's lasting for a week, you know,
in an air tight jar, or refrigerated for a month,

(01:36:48):
But that makes no sense. So it really and truly
is a thing dry buttermilk powder. How a cup, three
tablespoons of dried parsley, a tablespoon of granulated garlic, two
teaspoons of granulated onion, two teaspoons of dried deal weed,

(01:37:15):
a teaspoon of dried onion flakes, a teaspoon of dried chives,
a teaspoon It says kosher salt, you can use the
Celtic salt, and a half a teaspoon of black pepper,
and a half a teaspoon of granulated sugar, which means

(01:37:35):
you can use a half a teaspoon of your wall
whole cane sugar and just mix it all together. And
I'm going to put that recipe at the rumble because
it does give you some recipes for making your dressing

(01:37:56):
and then also for making a wrench dip. But this
takes us to my recipe. The main recipe for tonight,
and I've made these and everybody loves them and they're
crack burgers, and I have not done them outside, which

(01:38:18):
is ridiculous because I have a gas grill and I
got a trigger. But frankly it was Texas heat. It
was too hot. Not didn't want to do it. But
these are best on the grill. So this, let me
see how many of this makes what's be's servings. Heck,
if I know, okay, you're gonna want one and a

(01:38:44):
half pounds of ground chuck. That's always the best for
burgers because of you know, the flavor it gives it,
three tablespoons of sour cream, two tablespoons of the ranch
dressing mix that you just made or is in the recipe,
and half of a cup of cooked and crumbled bacon.

(01:39:10):
And then the rest no one cup of shredded chaddar cheese,
and the rest is just whatever topics you want. And
so just a large bowl, you're gonna do your ground meat,
your sour cream, your rants dressing, your bacon, and your
scheddar cheese. Mix it until it's just incorporated. But don't

(01:39:34):
overmix it because it can make your burgers be tough.
And then form your patties. And yes, now it tells
you this should make six patties and that makes sense
quarter pounders each, and then make them however you like,

(01:39:54):
whatever thickness you want.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
I like.

Speaker 6 (01:39:57):
Well, for the last couple of years we've been on
the smash burger train. We we really like taking my
past iron bacon press and just pressing those. Sometimes I'll cook,
I mean, I'll slice up thinly vydelia onions, put that

(01:40:18):
on my gretel, then put a quarter pound hamburger ball
on it and then smash it right into those onions.
But anyways, cook it, you know, to your desired temperature
for medium, you know, one hundred and forty and forty

(01:40:38):
five degrees. And that's basically it. That's your crack burgers.
And like I said, I will put these at our
rumble Doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. I'll put them in
the chat. I think I had like a blonde moment

(01:41:01):
last week. Doc said that he puts links into chat
and uh they're clickable, and uh, I've been putting them
into just comments and they're not clickable. But uh, I'll
have those there shortly. That's all about that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
That's it, And don't ask her about a care package
because you get your heart broke. That ain't happening. Build
anything on the recipes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
No, that sounds so that was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Are you a burger man and a smashed burger man
on top of that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Yeah? I like uh, I like hamburgers. This is a
but you know, I've I grew up, as I've said
many times with my Italian out who had a brother
who ran a restaurant and who showed me how to

(01:42:09):
make hamburgers, and uh which you know, you make them.
You make them about a hardball, a snowball size, and
then you start slamming them down on the counter, and
you turn them and slam them, and you turn them
and slam them, and you ultimately it keeps them from
breaking up when you cook them, because it mashes everything

(01:42:32):
all up together, and all the fibers in the meat
kind of intertwined, and so the hamburger stays as a
complete unit. My mom never figured that out, and her
hamburgers always broke apart. But I've always made it by
by slamming them down three or four, three or four

(01:42:53):
times on either side. It gets a little noise. Scares
of cats, it's okay, so they make a good hamburger.
But yeah, I do put stuff in it. Might either
cut up an onion there or cut up garlic and
put in there, and then I add stuff to it.
So this sounds like a little different approach to that
and a little a little more interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
Well, you were ahead of your time because nowadays smash
burger is like something new and a lot of people
have been beating them with a mallet all along, and
you guys were doing it because your friend had a restaurant.
That's how he did it. But today it's a fancy name,

(01:43:38):
and uh that means they can charge a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
I just you bet you yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
I just like my burgers then I always have. And
when you know, they finally came out with a term,
I was like, that's that's me. That's that's what I like.
I like that that crispy edge on it that you get,
you know, when when you smash it like that, And
of course they cook up super fast. But yeah, the

(01:44:06):
smash burger. I've been all about the smash burger all
my life. I'm not impressed with a big old thick
patty of around me.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Interesting, So both of you guys were ahead of your time.
Because this is something fairly new in the last couple
of years, smash burger as far as out there in
the commercial world, but I think a lot of people
have probably been doing it, making your burger stick together.
So Bill, your mom didn't do that? Did you show her?

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
How have you ever showed your mother how to do
anything right?

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Well? Sometimes when I just want to feel crazy, Uh yeah,
gets smacked.

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
Yeah, it reminds me of that joke last week. Yeah,
the police, I might as well say it. The kid
goes to like police academy and he's asked, you know,
what are you going to do if you have to
arrest your mother? I'm gonna call for backup.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
I won't give names, but somebody and my family helps
somebody out because they don't drive and they need help
going to stores and stuff. And there have been many
times where they told this person they were helping that

(01:45:41):
they couldn't buy that, and they couldn't buy that, and
they didn't know what was good or bad for them,
but they thought they did. And this last week I
was told that they wanted a curling iron and they
were told, no, you might forget to turn it off.

(01:46:03):
So I made sure that person got a curling iron
and told them, don't tell the other person, so you
don't have to hear a bunch of bull. And nowadays
the curling irons have auto shut off anyway, So that
was kind of a dumb thing to tell them. But
I just hate if you're gonna help somebody and you

(01:46:26):
take them to the store or whatever, let them do
what they want. None of us have the right to
tell somebody else. So let's that your child and you're
raising them, and we're all past that, you know, to
a point where the kids get well, you know, but
the kids get to a certain age and they've already

(01:46:47):
got their mind made up a lot of things. You
just try to guide them some But to take somebody
who's lived a full life to the store and tell
them what they can have and what they can't have
just wrong, absolutely wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
So douc hey, doc, Yeah, there is such a thing
as a curling iron that auto shuts off.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Yeah that's what we got, okay, Yeah, because that was
what they were told, I can't have the curling iron
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
And what they did.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
I don't understand this because I've never bought them, but
they said that the person bought them some little rollers
and it wasn't what they wanted, but they felt like
that was safe. Just disgust me.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
Unless you step on them.

Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
Unless you step on them, and then they're not safe.

Speaker 4 (01:47:52):
Well, you know, I remind people all the time, and
over the last few decades of doing this, when somebody
you'll tell me, well, I got my daughters doing this,
or the son in law, or somebody's trying to tell
us what to do. I remind people you're still the
head of the family. You don't have to let them

(01:48:14):
bully you. You're the head and they're not. You know,
if it's you're the dad or you're the mom, they're
still your saunder daughter and they don't get to tell
you what to do. But a lot of people try,
you know, Like the way I think of it, if

(01:48:35):
you lived to ninety or one hundred or longer and
you want to drink, smoke and chase wild women in
your wheelchair, go for it. I saw a thing the
other day. The oldest living veteran from the Civil War,

(01:48:56):
I don't know why they said civil because it was
not civil at all, was laying on his deathbed smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
A cigar.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
And he was one hundred and sixteen years old, and
I'm sure that person in my family would have told
him you can't have a cigar, and he would have said,
I'm dying. Shut up. So I don't know anybody out
there that feels the need to control people. Go get

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a race car or something that has a remote control. God,
leave them alone, let them live their life. People say, well,
smoking's bad for you, Well, there's been people that smoked
their whole life and never had a problem. And there's
been people that never smoked and died of lung cancer
at thirty. So you can't tell people that. You can't

(01:49:49):
say this is bad or this is good. That we
could say we know that this is probably not the
best for you, But if that's something you want. You
you're one hundred and sixteen years old, I think you
ought to be able to have whatever you want exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:50:07):
Well, you know the reason I know about the curling
iron because I've had a tendency to leave my curling
iron on. And there's not much that irritates my husband,
but if I leave my curling iron on, he says,

(01:50:27):
do you really want to burn your house down?

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
That's really what you want to do?

Speaker 6 (01:50:34):
I don't think it's very smart. And if you can't
remember to turn your curling iron off, maybe you did
not have one. So my iron cuts off automatically. My
curling iron. I've got two or three different curling irons.
They all cut off automatically, and so I don't get

(01:50:54):
chewed out no more.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
And like them.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
That that that man he needs to watch the John
Wayne movie called McClintock.

Speaker 6 (01:51:09):
Yeah, that woman sees something else.

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
Yeah, And and he finally had enough and he bent
her over his knee.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
And one of those guys handed ema, I don't know,
like a fireplace shovel. It was hilarious, but but he's right.

Speaker 6 (01:51:30):
You know that that's dangerous, you know. And uh, when
my iron broke, I got me a shark. I love
that thing, and uh, it just shuts off automatically. I'm like,
you're my new best friend. I'm not gonna get in
trouble no more.

Speaker 4 (01:51:53):
Oh funny. All right, guys, Well we're at that time
of the night, says he. Have you got anything you'd
like to close with?

Speaker 6 (01:52:00):
No? Just ladies, do the automatic shut off heat devices.
Anything that helps smooth out of marriage is worth it.
You know, the automatic cut off curling iron, you know,
especially if you work outside the home and you have

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to run out the door and you're driving down the
road and you're going, did I turned my calle on off?

Speaker 4 (01:52:29):
Oh, funny bill anything?

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
Yeah? I did? But I forgot what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:52:40):
That blonde girl did it to you, didn't she?

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
No, It's just there's just not enough going on in
my mind and it just goes away.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
Well, knowing you you got some deep thoughts going on,
there's not a lot of room up there with all
the music you remember and all the analyzing psychos.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
A lot of stuff. I think a lot of a
lot of people who are you know, when folks get older,
it's just not that they forget stuff or that they
move the ability to uh to cognatively handle things. Just
got too much stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:53:19):
Going on, right, Our hard drives get full.

Speaker 4 (01:53:23):
That's why I've said that forever. People keep saying, oh,
I'm getting older, I forgot no what it is? Is
There so much information that has bombarded your CPU that
by the time you get to a certain age, you've
learned to push stuff aside, clear some memory, and and

(01:53:45):
you decide what's important and what's not and uh. And
there are things that we can take to help us
with our memory if there is any kind of issues,
and I've had a lot of patience for that, you know,
some of them like Kinkobaloba, Bill Berry, it's good for
night vision, and what's that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
Gosh tequila?

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And they either help you remember
or forget, you know, or who cares right yeah? Or
who cares right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
And it's so funny. I loved it when I saw
that thing with the guy one hundred and sixteen years
old smoking a cigar and they said he was laying
on his bed shortly before he died. But by the
time you get to a certain age, your family should

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not be trying to dictate to you like you're the
kid and they're thet You're still the head of the
family and unless you're just totally delirious, they don't have
the right to try to control you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
But some people do. And my family it's uh, there's
some some real real control freaks and they cannot stand it.
I'm sure I'm going to hear about it when they
find out that Curl and Iron got bought. Now, I'm
gonna hear it bad. But it does automatically shut off.

(01:55:22):
I didn't even know they did that, Susie, until this
incident came up.

Speaker 6 (01:55:26):
Well, they did that for me. And then the other
gadget that's for me is because I'm directionally challenged, is GPS.
And when that stuff came out, you know, it was
external it was a gadget, and then a garment or
something like that. I can't remember the name of it.

(01:55:47):
And I was like, oh, I am so getting that,
and I'm never getting lost in Santonio or Houston or
Austin again ever.

Speaker 4 (01:55:55):
Yeah, well, sometimes those things will steer you wrong. But
I have noticed I have never ever seen a woman
walk out of a store and remember where their car is.
I see them in the parking lot, hitting the thing,
trying to get at the honk, looking running and pushing
their cart around lost. And in my family, every woman

(01:56:17):
has always been that way. They can't find the car.

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
Well, you know, the old ladies, because I'm not one
of them. They go and get a plastic flower like
a rose, and they tape it to their antenna if
they have an antenna. And I used to wonder what
is that? But real quick, a friend of mine was
at a big parking lot. Some woman was coming out

(01:56:42):
with her bags and she was holding that remote up
and she was clicking it trying to get her car
to honk, and he hit his horn every time she
held up.

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
That doesn't mean, uh, what a world we.

Speaker 6 (01:57:01):
Live in, and that he bragged about doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Really, that's that's sad. That's sad. Funny but great idea. Yeah,
you know you brought up that blond so sussy and
I'm reminded of that joke and I got to tell it.
I'm sure we probably talked about it before, or maybe not,
I don't know. But there was a blonde on the

(01:57:26):
airplane and she sat down in a first class section
and she didn't have a first class ticket, and the
stewardess is back then. Now they call them flight attendants,
but back then they would call them the stewardess. And
they they tried to explain to this lady that you
have a ticket for coach and you're sitting up here

(01:57:49):
in first class, and she kept telling them I'm blonde,
and I'm fabulous, and I'm staying right here, and they
just went over this over and over and over, and
she would never budge. She just kept saying I'm blonde,
I'm fabulous, and I'm not moving from this seat. So
finally they hadn't taken off yet, and the captain, Oh no,

(01:58:11):
they had taken off, and they and the captain got
up for a moment, and one of the ladies said, hey,
we got a problem with this lady in first class.
And as soon as they told him it was a blonde,
he said, I'll take care of it. He said, I
speak blonde. I'm married to one. So so he walks

(01:58:31):
over to her and he said, ma'am. They said, they've
tried to explain to you that you're in the wrong seat.
I'm blond, and I'm fabulous, and I'm not moving, he said,
But what you don't understand is first class does not
go to the city that you want to go to,
only coach and she got up and moved.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
I love it all right, guys, Well we're at that
time of night. I cannot thank our producer Steve, Susie
and Bill enough and all you ladies and gentlemen to
tune in and listen to us. We are so grateful,
so honored. I noticed we had India, Canada, Spain, where

(01:59:16):
else did we have. I'm trying. Oh United Kingdom. We
had about eight different countries that we were being listened
to in and that was always a great feeling. And
we're so honored that you guys tune in and we
appreciate it and click like on some of those things.
It's supposed to help us a little bit, well, we

(01:59:38):
don't know, and we go out to a lot of
different things. So if you're listening to us on Rumble,
we're also on many other formats that you can pick
us up. But I like to thank everybody, and I
know you guys appreciate the work that Steve does and
Susie and Bill. If it wasn't for Susie and Steve

(02:00:00):
working on all this place, Matt that I've ruined him
and now they call it, we wouldn't have the cool
pictures and all that stuff on Rumble. Bill and I
do not do that, but thank God that they do.
And it is so great to have the weekly topic
and the recipes. It's just a lot of fun and

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the blonde joke just helped. So anyway, May God bless
you all with health and happiness, keep your lives peaceful,
free and safe. And as you know, it is that
time of night for good Scotch, good cigars, and good.

Speaker 6 (02:00:45):
Night, good night all, not everyone, God bless.

Speaker 5 (02:00:52):
Seems the love I've known has always been the most
destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so old
before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the taste

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of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue.

Speaker 4 (02:01:17):
I teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
the way that even breeze.

Speaker 5 (02:01:26):
May tease a candle flame. The thousand dreams I dreamed,
the splendid things I planned. I always built to last
on weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
Shifting sand.

Speaker 5 (02:01:39):
I lived by night and shun the naked light of day.

Speaker 4 (02:01:44):
And only now I see how the years ran away.