Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 9-17-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Producer Steve

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Speaker 5 (01:42):
One Yeah, yeah, what condition?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Condition?

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Up?

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This morning?

Speaker 8 (02:01):
And with the sundown shining?

Speaker 6 (02:04):
And I found my mind in a brown paper peg.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Butin I tripped on a clouding fell eight miles.

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High high, I tore mine back on a jagged sky.
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition
was in?

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:33):
What condition?

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Condition?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Welcome everybody to Doctor Cripple's Natural Health Ours. It is
the seventeenth of September and we got down to about
one hundred and one today at one, so it is
cooling down. Almost had to break out my sweater again.
Maybe the heavy coat next. Well, I think we have

(03:10):
got Susie Bill and producer Steve behind the curtain, so
let's jump right into them, saying hello Susie, good.

Speaker 10 (03:19):
Evening everyone, Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hot folks.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
There he is who said Bill wasn't here? Oh, anyway,
we are looking tonight at When you watch a commercial
or read about a medical product from the pharmaceutical world,
one of the first things they all say is if

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you are allergic.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
To trim track what, I don't take it.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
And then they go into what they call side effects,
but very subtly they put them at the bottom and
they cover them up with ice cream and cake, so
they don't want you to pay attention. And a good
friend that has passed this world to the next used

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to say, not side effects, they're the direct effect of
you took that medicine.

Speaker 8 (04:23):
And I said, you know, you're right. I never thought
of that. I'm glad I did.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Those things don't belong in your body. You're not allergic
to them. Your body said, fool, get that out of me.
And if you don't, there's going to be hell to pay.
And if you read or listen to the commercials, I
saw one yesterday and it was talking about a medicine

(04:54):
that you would take to clear up your skin rashes,
and it had everything. They're up to, possibly death and
if you have rid of it. Yeah, if you have
any of these symptoms, call your doctor right away. Well,
according to some of them, symptoms, you ain't calling nobody.

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And so that's why I thought we'd talk about that tonight.
You have to remember that just to get the dosage,
they've got to figure out how much to give you
before your liver can't filter it out, and then that
sets the dosage and they know where to go because

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the liver is going to work really hard. Then it'll
talk to the kidneys and they're going to say, all right,
we got to get rid of this stuff. And your
body's going to try to get rid of this that
it don't belong I remember as a kid, they would say,
you're allergic to penicillin. Well, I didn't know. I didn't

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know what they were talking about. But as I got older.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
And wiser, I found out that no, I wasn't. I
don't belong in you.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
And most people their body rejects things like penicillin. And
so what you found out is that some people's tolerance
for medications was not as bad as others, because everybody's
liver works a little differently. Some people take something and boom.

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They might have had a terrible quick reaction, and other
people take something and it's slowed and drawn out.

Speaker 8 (06:43):
But what you have to remember, you're not allergic.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Allergic would be like all of us are eating ice
cream and everybody's fine, and one person gets a rash
from eating that ice cream or their lipswalls or.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
Some weird little thing.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
They might be allergic to the ice cream because everybody
else can eat it and there's no problem. But when
it comes to the medications, the side effects slash direct
effects are.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
Affecting many, many.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
People, and the fact that they even put them on
the screen are in writing is because so many people
have had these effects, and I'm amazed at how many
include death as a possible direct effects side effect. Now,

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you know that's got to be bad for them to
even put that there. And then if you watch a
lot of these commercials, no matter whether they're selling a
medicine or something else, have paid actors doing that. Now,

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if these medicines were so wonderful and all that side
effects and direct defects, wasn't there be a lot easier
to get real patience and they would love the camera time.
But they're not doing it because nobody that's taking those
medicines do they want to put a microphone in front

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of And that's because some pretty bad things. I was
watching the one for the Skin and they were saying
some people have had complete remission in a year, some
people two years later completely gone. But you might have

(08:44):
difficulty in breathing, difficulty in swallowing, rash, fever, heart palpitations,
I mean, liver failure, kidney failure, dehydration, and it just
went on and on. But they did it in such

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a way that unless you're like me and you're looking
for that, you're not going to even notice it. And
a lot of times they bring these glamorous people in
sceneries into the commercials to distract you because nobody's going
to pay attention to the negative side effects, direct effects,

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and so what people need to understand.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
None of that stuff belongs in your body. They made
it in a plant.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Factory or some type of laboratory setting, and they have
to figure out how much to give you before the
average liver can't filter it anymore. So there's a dosage
because if they gave it to you and the liver
got rid of everything, it wouldn't work. So they got
to figure out where above that liver filter. But you're

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not allergic, and I know because as a kid, they
went crazy trying to figure out with me, and I
now know it was probably the vaccines. But my lips
would swell up or my eye would swell up or

(10:23):
something like that on my body and nobody could ever
figure it out. And I didn't figure it out till
I figured out about all the shots they gave us
as we got older, and I'm pretty sure that was
my downfall, but nobody could ever figured that out. But
I was allergic to something. If it was food and

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we all ate the same food and I was the
only one that had that problem, then it wasn't the vaccine.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
It was some food we ate, and I was actually allergic.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
But if it was from shots, then that didn't belong
in my body, and my body protested bad. I'll never
forget my wonderful grandmother. On my mom's side, they gave
me some penicillin shot for infection in my leg, and

(11:18):
really I don't even think I.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
Had the infection. It was just because they can.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
And for two weeks I was basically in a coma
at my grandmother's house with her nursing me. And one
day I wake up and she was just so happy
and so loving, and I didn't know anything. I'd just
been out of it. But they gave me that stuff
and my body went into shock. And so that's why

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you see all them side effects and direct effects on
the set.

Speaker 8 (11:51):
When you're watching or you hear a radio commercial.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Because these things have happened to people that people have died,
people have been messed up forever. I saw something recently
where a lady was saying they gave her some medication
for something and it caused the right side of her
face to develop paralysis. So you have to be very careful.

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A lot of people, and we were raised this way.
When there's a problem, you ran to the doctor and
he gave you a prescription and you went home. And
young mothers always.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Expected, with the exception of people like.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Sussy, some kind of antibiotic because their kid was sick
and he needed it or she needed it.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
But that's not the way it really works. You don't
need that stuff.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
It's bad for you.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It doesn't belong in your body, and your body is
trying to tell you that. But if you're a kid,
you just take whatever you're told. And I also think
a lot of times there's pesticides and herbicides and fungicides
in the food, and that causes problems.

Speaker 8 (13:15):
And there's something about eating grapefruit.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
That speeds up the liver's ability to get things out
of the body and so and it has a way
of making the medications work better sometimes, and so they're
very nervous about if you eat grapefruit and you're taking
a medicine, and I don't remember if all of them

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it makes work stronger, or if it doesn't make some
of them work at all. I don't remember at the moment,
but I know grapefruit plays a role, and that may
be nature's way of saying, eat this, you need this.
But I've never had anybody that thought they were allergic

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or it was a side effect or a direct effect.
Think about it much because it came from the doctor,
and you know a lot of people think. But in fact,
I remember having a conversation with two young ladies and
I told them something was bad, and they said they
couldn't believe that because why would the doctor give.

Speaker 8 (14:30):
It to them?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
And I had to explain to them that it was
about money, and that's how they're trained. So even even
if it was bad, that doctor might not know because
they were trained. Problem may give solution B. If problem
A comes back, give solution C. And you keep writing those.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
Scripts to your risk.

Speaker 9 (14:57):
It's tart.

Speaker 8 (15:00):
And there's a lot of money to be made at that.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
So just remember before you run out to the local
office that writes a prescription for the pharmacy. Whatever's wrong
with you, there's probably a crazy doctor like me that
has a pretty good idea and solution to.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
Help you the right way with natural things. And you'll
see the label.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Not approved by the FDA or not researched by the FBA,
or you know, something like that, and we don't we
like that, And I'd rather have a doctor like me
dealing with you with natural medications who doesn't want them

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approved or verified by the FDA. These are the people
that have brought you a lot of really bad medicine.
So and you think about guys like doctor Fossie, I
don't want the people involved in my healthcare. So anyway,
that's kind of just a good rule of them that

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think about it before you put something in you that
came from the pharmacy, because it's not natural, it doesn't
belong in you, and everybody's reaction is going to be different.
But when you see all them side effects and direct
effects on the screen, it means somebody's had enough of

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them that they had to put it on there, and
that's a bad thing. And you don't want to be
the poor guy that can't speak or breathe, and you're
supposed to call your doctor and tell him, because that's
the ones that end up dying.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
If you can't talk or breathe. That's serious.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
And I'm just always amazed at how quickly people will
take a medicine just because it came from the doctor's
office and they had to pay money. But if you
suggest something natural and you're not charging them for that
advice and wearing your white coat and tie.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
They don't listen a lot of times. So anyway, Susie anything.

Speaker 10 (17:14):
Yeah, people just, uh, they surprised me. I find it
amusing that those young women could think that the doctor's
office can't possibly hurt you. It's got to be good.
M blows me away.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
Bill, how about you.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, brought up a couple of interesting things I was
thinking the other day where you said thinking about white
white coats the lab you mean the lab coachs. I
don't know, Sham. You know, if you wear a laboratory
coade is to keep spills and stuff from getting your

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But it's become sort of a status that if a
guy comes bursting into your waiting room, man, he's got
a white, you know, long coat on and well, he
must be as a researcher, must be a side. Now
he's just just a doctor. And let me think. And
I haven't been to the UK for many years, but

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when I was over there fairly frequently doctors over there
were never called doctor. It was always mister.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Over here.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
The doctor prefixes has become a social status, and even
back in this country in the thirties forties, particularly from
the fifties on, anybody who was the doctor was really
really in the upper echelon of society. He was something special,
that there was something remarkable and needed to be paid
attention to because they were very bright. But in England

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they were just it was always mister so and so,
who happened to be a very famous surgeon, but it
was mister And I think that kind of normalcy certainly
made a difference in how a how how liberal they
were dispensing a lot of these kinds of medications would

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be the perception of the patients. It was much more
of an equal kind of equal kind of relationship, and
I thought, and I thought, a much healthier one. But
you're right. The marketing that were that were subjected to
through the pharmaceutical companies and their drug reps and the

(19:41):
white coats is pretty intense. And yeah, we don't question
it because we were always brought up to believe that
these people knew everything.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
Yeah, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I remember that one of the studies I saw years ago,
pediatricians prescribed more antibiotic and any other kind of doctor
because the moms wanted it, and a lot of the
moms disfigured because the way they grew up and you
went to the doctor, you got an antibiotic, and that's

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caused a lot of problems. I remember they were talking
about the the methyl resistant staph arius, and it was
a fancy way of saying, we've written so many prescriptions,
the bacterias are laughing at us, and there nothing bothers

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them anymore. And consequently, if you really needed an antibiotic,
it would not work. But I still think natural works better.
Sometimes maybe it's not as fast as what people want

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because you're healing instead of flipping a switch and shocking
the body. But I'll take healing any day over side effects,
direct effects, and some people might say allergic, but I
don't think you're allergic to any of that.

Speaker 8 (21:17):
It just don't belong in your body.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
So it just think about it before you let them
give you one. And I said, I noticed, if you're
wearing a white coat and tie, people listen. If you
make them pay money, they listen, and if you give
free advice, they.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
Usually ignore the hell out of you. So don't waste
your time. I had a couple things.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
An update on my family patient that had the stroke.
They got a email from and this is what's really sad.
Their company doesn't have the decency of just making a
decision and saying, this is one of our best employees

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and they had a stroke. We know they're not faking it,
but I'm going to write in their chart that they
work from home until there's an improvement.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
And they can drive. But what they.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Did they stronged it off to a third party company
and put it in their hands. And so the other
day they sent an email and they said we just noticed,
or she said, I just noticed that the doctor in

(22:43):
question is a family member. Okay, and because of that,
we don't know if they're going to allow of this.
So I talked to the patient and I said, well,
you have to tell them whatever you think.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
But here's what I would say.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I would say, yes, that person is my doctor and
has been for many years. And this is not about
asking for an approval. This was more of a polite

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notification to my employer that I cannot drive, you know,
not about you saying well, yeah you can or no
you can't. I can't drive. And they said that it's
not about the doctor or anything else. It's strictly about

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I had a stroke and I cannot drive. It was
a courtesy notification and they said in there that and
by the way, I'm working from the remote office very
productively with no problems doing my job. I just can't drive.

(24:16):
And guess what they have not bothered to get back.
So very very sad that they do that kind of stuff.
I was watching the news before I came in here,
and it was very sad. They said three cops were

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killed and two were injured somewhere in Pennsylvania, and I
didn't get a chance.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
To see the story.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
But it's always sad when you see stuff like that.
I know a lot of people don't want anything to
do with them, but there's a big difference between not
liking something and killing and I just I don't understand that.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
Very very sad, and there's.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Still a lot to talk about Charlie Kirk, and I'm
amazed about how many people can say.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Bad about the dead.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
And there was some things where they had from Charlie
where he quoted people's online posts, and the mainstream media
picked some of that up, and they didn't bother to
tell the people that this was him discussing a quote.

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They said, he said this, he's a racist and he's
a biggot, and they and then the other media came
out and said, hey, they showed the clip of like
say MSNBC or somebody, and then they said, uh, here's
what they said, but here's the truth. He was quoting

(25:56):
for discussions what somebody had posted online. He was not
saying that as a belief, and eybody really twisted around
and played games with it. Another thing that I noticed
on the TV is everybody and they do this in
the email too.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
They will send you something.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
And the last chance to get this is tomorrow at midnight,
and then after tomorrow at midnight passes, last chance for Thursday,
and then after Thursday passes. We're having that same special.
We brought it back and it's going to end in
two hours. And they just keep doing that, and I

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think people are smart enough to know that all that's
just too much of hype. And it's the same kind
of advertising that convinces people to try these medications that
ignore all that bad stuff.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
And it's very scary.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
They're very, very powerful.

Speaker 8 (27:07):
Just amazes me.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
And I'm always amazed too that they pay people to do.
And add I've seen companies using like yours and they're
advertising for work, and.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
They got these.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
People saying, oh, I've wanted this done for so long.
I kept asking him to get it done, and now
that it's done, I'm so happy they did this. And
then at the bottom and very small letters, it says
paid actors. Now, if your company's doing really good work,

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why would you have to pay actors when you could
interview good quality customers that would say more good for
you if you truly did good work. Well you think
about that? He doesn't that sound a little weird? I guess, yeah,

(28:10):
I guess we lost her again. I don't even see
her on the screen.

Speaker 8 (28:17):
I wonder what happened. You're still there, right, Bill.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
As much as I usually am.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, what do you What do you think when you
see these companies bragging about a service they performed at
somebody's home and then you see at the bottom of
the screen that the people are all actors.

Speaker 8 (28:39):
To me, you should use.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well yeah, but but hey, real people are ugly, and
real people can't remember lines and real big guy, you know,
you never know what they're going to say. With an actor,
they read a script. You can make them up to
be handsome and beautiful, and that's what we all want.
So that's what you're going to do. I mean, you know,
if if Standard Process offered you two hundred and fifty

(29:03):
thousand dollars to do a two minute commercial, who would
you pass it up? Yeah? You would?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, I would unless I was doing an honest commercial
with real world proof of what I've done.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, but a lot but a lot of people are
not like that. They'll take the money because it's your job.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
I know I would feel guilty. I would.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It would eat me a minute. You told me you don't.
You said many times you don't have feelings. What's just
feeling guilty that you get? You should laugh. Last week,
you would feel guilty if you ate a donut? Yeah
that's right.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Okay, all right, well, Steve, I guess we lost Sizzy.
Uh so hopefully you can bring her back to us. Director, Yeah,
I guess it's time to go to break. So, ladies
and gentlemen, this is doctor Crooper's Natural Health Hours. We're

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missing at the moment, but I'm sure our producer Steve
will find her and bring her back. It is September seventeenth,
twenty twenty five, and we just spent the first half
hour mostly talking about side effects, direct effects.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Are are you allergic to something? When we come back,
we'll see what we got going on.

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Speaker 4 (33:32):
Uh. I just told our producer in the chat room
that I since he's been known to have some little
snide remarks in the chat room, I thought it was
only appropriate that I would find the most lovey dovey
love songs in his honor tonight, and that was one

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of them. All Right, we are back. Do we have
Susie back yet? Something about her computer died?

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Oh good, it's pretty bad. You shot your computer just
to avoid me? And what are you trying to say?

Speaker 7 (34:12):
Well, it's it was started heating up and uh said that,
uh the battery was dead. And then I'm like, no,
it's not so anyways, I'll get it bick somehow.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
Well, what'd you do?

Speaker 7 (34:31):
You're gonna You're gonna laugh. It got really hot. So
I went to the freezer and I got.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
An I pack. The high tech solution to a high
tech problem.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
I just I just said it on the uh, on
my ice pack. That's better than my computer in the freezer, right,
m so.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
So, uh, there's a common denominator here.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
What possibly could have touched the computer that was so hot?
Let me think, Let me think, did you like did
you like the little snit bit of a love song
for our producer Steve?

Speaker 7 (35:19):
But here's a quarter call someone who cares.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah that I'm being a little ironic and sarcastic. Because
he's always injected them funny little snide comments in the
jet room. So I was going to tell him that
I had three love songs for him tonight, but they're
not really what you would call love songs.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
Since I was doing first day on the computer, I
didn't get to hear all of them, all of them.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, it was just that one. But I have a
couple other really sweet love songs.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
So anyway, Yeah, how many people know any people know
why you would need a quarter to call somebody? I
mean that goes back a long time, you know, it's true.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, that that's true.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
I didn't even.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Think about that bill. That's cool. I'm glad you brought
it up, because back then.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
We still had I remember when it took a dime.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, I remember that too. I loved payphones. I thought
it was so cool. And in the old days you
had phones out on the interstate every so many miles
and uh, I don't know how.

Speaker 8 (36:42):
They did all that back then.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
That was a lot of cable, but at least it
was like having a cell phone on the highway.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
I guess kind of cool. All right, A few little
things from about Bob you tonight, get Bob Buker, anybody
doesn't know, played.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Six years of Major League baseball, played for about three teams,
four teams. He ended up with my Saint Louis Cardinals
when they went to the World Series and won in
nineteen sixty four. But they always joked and Bob became

(37:29):
such a great comedian, and he went on Johnny Carson
one time and Johnny Carson named him mister Baseball and
it stuck and he so he had a brief six
year career.

Speaker 8 (37:43):
He never hit very good. He wasn't, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
He just wasn't the greatest of baseball players, which got
to be pretty damn good just to get there. But
he learned how to take all that stuff and be funny.
And he ended up being a broadcaster for Milwaukee for
like thirty years, and he was good.

Speaker 8 (38:07):
He was in some movies.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Where he played the broadcaster and he was so funny,
Like what was the name of that Charlie Sheen played
in it, and Charlie would throw thirty feet away from the.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
Plate and Yuker would say, just missed by.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
An inch, and then he'd be be drinking while he
was playing. But some of the things that Bob said
that were really funny is they said some interesting stories
and Bob said.

Speaker 8 (38:44):
Yeah, when I was a kid, my dad.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Had bought a ball and he didn't know much about
that stuff. He wasn't into sports. And we couldn't kick
it and we couldn't throw it, and we were really
getting frustrated, having a hard time. And then he said,
a kindly neighbor came by and put air in.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
It, and uh, that took.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
Care of that problem.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
And then they said, how about during the season, any
any opening day stuff, any things.

Speaker 8 (39:15):
That are interesting, and he said, yeah, one year.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Opening day they told me it was an afternoon game
and I found out it was a midday game and
he said and and they asked him, well, you got
traded a few times.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
How's that go down?

Speaker 4 (39:33):
And he said yeah, My manager was real nice about that.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
I was in the dugout and he.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Walked up and said, Bob, we don't allow visitors in
the dugout.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
So he said, I knew I got traded.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
That was that was funny, and we'll see what was it.
My favorite one was when he when he talked about out,
he said, I'm very proud of my batting average. It
was two hundred over six years, and he said, that

(40:09):
puts me right there with another famous athlete who had
a two hundred, Dick Weber, the bowler. That's a little different.
So Bob was. He was so funny, so so funny.

Speaker 8 (40:27):
He was at the.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Induction at the Hall of Fame and he had those
guys falling out of their seats. They said, Bob, how
do you catch a knuckleball? He said, I figured that
out right away. I wait till the ball stop rolling
and I pick it up.

Speaker 9 (40:51):
So he was great.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Thirty years as an announcer, six years playing, and Johnny
Carson made him famous when he nicknamed him Mister Baseball
and just it was just some great stuff. You guys,
ever get a chance pull up Bob Baker and look

(41:13):
at some of that stuff.

Speaker 8 (41:15):
All right, now it's time for that.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Relationship advice that you know I'm so good at. First off,
if your parents didn't have children, there's a really good possibility.

Speaker 8 (41:34):
That you won't either.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
And this is very important, Susie. A good marriage is
about taking turns driving. The man drives wherever you're going
to go, and the woman drives him crazy from the
passenger seat. That's how it's supposed to work. Can you

(42:07):
picture Bob, you, Curtis dad playing ball and it it's
a football and it doesn't have air in it and
they can't figure out what to do.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
That was great, All.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Right, Tuessey, since you left us and heat it up,
your your computer and probably the whole house. Anything you
want to bring up about what we had talked about
before you bailed. Nope, all right, stop be that, Bill,

(42:38):
I blame you for that. Nope, you and her have conspired.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Nope, not be that. It must be it must be
the jokes.

Speaker 8 (42:51):
Hey, I listened to our producer Steve show. I think
it was the last one. Something was screwed up because.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
It wouldn't let me hear hour one, but it let
me play hour two, and I was telling him and Susy,
it's pretty interesting because he's got such a great following
that some of the people that I talked to when
I was with him over there for a little while
are still calling in. And what's really cool and what

(43:26):
makes things interesting is everybody as a story. Everybody read something,
learned something, knows something, and everybody thinks.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
They're right on whatever it might be.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
And you'll hear some great interesting things, you know, like
the other day they were talking about some stuff about Israel.

Speaker 8 (43:57):
They were talking about Charlie Kirk. They we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Different things around the world, different versions of what And
some people their faith is very strong in one direction,
and whatever their belief might be, they think they're right
and then they think the other people are wrong. But
pretty cool when you're doing a show and you can
check him out. He's over there at Republic Broadcasting and

(44:25):
he does the show from eight to ten on Sunday morning,
and you know you're going to skip church anyway, so
go listen to Steve and it's a good show, very entertaining.
His music, you know, he's not quite at the level
we are here, but.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
He's got his viuss.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Is that a bad thing?

Speaker 8 (44:52):
Same on you Bill? Stop you that?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
But anyway, it's a good show and very entertaining. And
I had a lot of pleasure when I used to
do some of that with him and learned a lot
of things along the.

Speaker 8 (45:05):
Way, and some interesting topics come up.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
There was a guy when I think it was the
second hour last week talking about coffee.

Speaker 8 (45:18):
And that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
He almost did a commercial for the coffee that he
likes that he found and it was a Texas company,
Texas Guy's Coffee, if I remember correct, and some people
like Bill and sus he's pretty much close to that too.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
But Bill's probably the coffee king.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
That we know.

Speaker 8 (45:45):
And Bill's very serious about his coffee. And was that
Pete's coffee? Good Bill?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Oh yeah, yeah. In fact, I just I think at
the end of last week, I just picked up some more.
You know, it used to be you could only buy that.
It was it's a Berkeley coffee company in California, and
it was that was the only place you could get it.
They were they were a local coffee company that it
wasn't in stores, that wasn't available, and I used to

(46:16):
you know, it used to get it there. Uh, And
they had their own series of coffee shops around h
They had really nice uh muffins and cookies, so you
could go down and have a cup of coffee and
have a great cookie. It was a fine and then
they then then Starbucks started showing up, and now everybody's

(46:37):
kind of gone national in these things. I'm kind of
sad to see that happen. But the pizza has been
around a long long time, and uh, it's one of
the two or three coffees that I really and consistently enjoy. Uh.
You know, I've had many coffees over the years. You
get kind of tired of them. They get kind of
the same old, same old. But this is just good stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah, they got some great stuff. They have some great
information on how to make your coffee depending.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
On what you're using.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
And I remember that you liked espresso and dark roast yep,
and I pretty much do too. Susie is a Southern
Pecan girl. That's her favorite. And the people over at
Coffee and Tea Junkie have all organic coffees right here

(47:36):
in Texas, and they have SUSY's Southern Pecan. I've had
it several times and it's pretty good. But Bill, how
many cups of coffee do you drink a day?

Speaker 8 (47:47):
You think?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Oh no, not very many. I only have maybe two cups.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
In the morning.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Oh okay, that's what I want. Yeah, when I make coffee,
it gets three tables? Was your coffee cup?

Speaker 8 (48:01):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Well, this guy that was on Steve's show sounded like
he drank coffee.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
All day long. I mean he was a bigtime coffee drinker. Yeah,
and my mom my mom was telling me She likes
to go to lunch where she lives now and get
down there about twenty minutes early so she can have
coffee before lunch. She said, I really like you. Yeah,

(48:29):
she said, I really like that.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
So she asked me if I tried that, and I
said no, I never thought about coffee before lunch.

Speaker 8 (48:38):
But she likes.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
It and then sets you up and gets you going.

Speaker 8 (48:43):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
It shuts you up and gets you going.

Speaker 8 (48:47):
Oh? Interesting, interesting, Susie. Anything. I hate when you talk
so much.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Let me talk about race. Baseball. You haven't talked about
the Rangers there. They're getting pretty close to too, I
guess a division playoffs. They've been fighting their way up
the wildcomb lists.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Yeah, yeah, I root for them as long as they
don't play my Cardinals, just because of you. But I
haven't founded in me to root for the Dallas Cowboys.
I think they're in this country and.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
We have one of the I've watched a little bit.
I mean, they won Sunday, which was terrific. They beat
New York and that's a division game. But the week
before that they lost to the Eagles on the opener,

(49:56):
and that's a division game. But I take you. Let
that that kicker, he's something else. He took him, He
took him to a tie with second left in the fourth,
and then he took it to a win with a
field goals and overtime. So yeah, the kicker, he's pretty

(50:18):
much the.

Speaker 8 (50:18):
Team pretty good.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
I'm surprised at the part, knowing your family history and
how big of a fan you are, that you didn't
watch every second of the game.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
Well, it happens.

Speaker 8 (50:38):
But also you've.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Been a little under the weather lately and maybe uh
that slowed you down some.

Speaker 8 (50:49):
One thing.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
One thing I'll say about this this team is even
when everybody's a little out of it, the show seems
to bring us all back to life.

Speaker 8 (50:59):
And that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Bill.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
You got a weekly topic all prepped and ready.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, I guess, so, you know, fake it like usual.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Well, they've been pretty good. You always put us in deep,
deep deep thought.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
It's better than deep de deep other stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Yeah, and well it's all sometimes it's things that we
don't want to think about that are good to know
and think about. So and I'm sure, Susy, what kind
of a recipe you got up your sleeve while you
were burning up the computer?

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Well, I'm not going to tell you what kind. It's
a price, that's the way it works. But it's not alcohol.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Oh well, I'll drink to it anyway. Drink to it anyway.
That's what I wanted to tell you, guys. I saw
a thing the other day and it listed the people
that invented the treadmill, the people that invented the different
exercise machines, different help food guys, and they all died

(52:11):
much younger than the people that did what the hell
they wanted. So the answer is not to be a
Jack Lalaine, because he died much earlier than all them
guys out there rock and roll bands and other stuff.

(52:31):
There was a guy the other day they said he
drank and smoked until it was one hundred and two
and he was smoking a cigar to today. He died
and somebody asked, well, what was his secret? And his
daughter said he minded his own business.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
I thought that was pretty good.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
That was.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Good, good advice. People ought to do it more.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Yeah, you know, I see stuff on Facebook any other ones.
Truth and Twitter are ex as they say now, and
there's always people wanting to tell somebody what to do

(53:26):
or how to do it. There'll be things like I
came on this job and look how bad they did this.
And I could tell you in the world of electrical
and plumbing and.

Speaker 8 (53:39):
Anything heating and air, any place.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Where you need a license, there's a lot of things
that are safe and good, but they may not match
the latest and greatest code because that stuff's written by
people that don't go work in the field, so just
because somebody didn't do it exactly. And also the code's

(54:04):
different across the nation. You've got national codes, you've got
local codes, and a lot of that stuff is.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
The opinion of the person doing the inspection.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
And you can't get online. I mean you can, but
it's wrong to be telling people how to do things
or this is right or this is wrong, because it
may not be. You're going by what you were taught
and maybe the code where you're at.

Speaker 8 (54:39):
And to me, too many codes.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
I remember when we had to take a test for
the electrical license in Houston and it was all out
of the codebook stuff. Well, I worked electrical maintenance and troubleshooting,
very little construction. We did a little bit because sometimes
you had to put in something new or replay or

(55:04):
something to replace it.

Speaker 8 (55:06):
But that the test had nothing to do with what
we did for.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
A living, and it was designed by some people who
did not work in the field, so they wrote the
code and the tests the way they wanted it, and
I always thought that was the dumbest thing in the world.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
We had to go.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Pay for it, We had to lose money to go
take the test, and then it had nothing to do
unless if you would have been a construction electrician, maybe
it might have applied a lot more to you, But
most of all of us when we went were electrical
maintenance troubleshooting, So I always thought that was kind of strange.

(55:48):
But you'll see a lot of that, lot of bad advice,
a lot of people who thinks they're know it alls
telling people how to do this and do that, and I,
oh something yesterday. You guys can appreciate this because we
all love them big German pretzels, and they had canola oil,

(56:10):
and it.

Speaker 8 (56:10):
Was telling people all natural German pretzels.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
And I don't post stuff on the social media, but
I do contact companies periodically about products and let them
know that the Germans did not use canola oil because
it was not around and it's not natural and it's
not good for us. And I always volunteer to help

(56:38):
for free, and of course they all get back to
me so happily. Not so, I don't do much of that,
but I have a couple of times tried to help
because I want to be able to buy that I
love that big German pretzel and the big beer and

(56:59):
that must and I don't want it to have canola oil.
And we know why they're doing it. One they haven't
researched that it's natural, even though they're telling people it is.
And two it's cheap, but it does have a bad
aster taste, especially to me. I can pick up on it,
and I wish that that was not the case, but

(57:21):
I know it's there. All right, guys, Well, we're just
about it break. Like I said, if you get a chance,
check out Steve's show over on Republic Broadcasting eight o'clock
till ten o'clock on Sunday mornings, and I.

Speaker 8 (57:41):
Think you'll enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
It's very interesting and a lot of people have been
with them and call in for many years.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
That's the only thing we haven't.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Mastered yet is if people wanted to call in here,
and I'm not sure how we would do that if
they would have to come into the chat room and
let Steve know, and then he would have to figure
that out.

Speaker 9 (58:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
It's something Steve, you can tell us about later if
you like.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
But I enjoy that about your show that you have
the people calling in, and many of them I knew.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
From a long time ago, So that's kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
And this makes for some very interesting opinions and ideas.
And you know, you'll hear somebody say this is what
that book said, and to them, that's that's that's it.
So anyway, we are at break, ladies and gentlemen. So

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Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
You would change, so I gritted my tea and didn't complain.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Now you come to me.

Speaker 13 (01:01:47):
With a simple goodbye. You tell me you're leaving, but
you don't tell me why. Now we're here at the
station and you're getting on, and oh I can think

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of is thank God and Gray, how You're gone?

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
Thank God?

Speaker 9 (01:02:22):
And Grey, how You're gone. I didn't know how much
longer I could go.

Speaker 14 (01:02:29):
On watching you take the respect out of me, watching
you make a total record of me that big diesel
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Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Thank God and Gray, how You're Gone?

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
Can I pick a love song or what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Come on, it's almost just the top of the love
songs right there.

Speaker 8 (01:02:56):
And that was for our producer Steve, for his little
in the chat room.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
All right, well we are back, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
back to doctor Kruper's Natural Health Hours. It is September seventeenth.
We had a cold front blow through here. I think
it dropped to one oh one. So the bad, bad.

Speaker 8 (01:03:19):
Hot summer is slowly disappearing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I saw this on the news today and I said,
thank you God. They were complaining that hurricane season has
been extremely quiet, and they just don't understand why because
they thought they made it happen. So I just pray
we don't get any and if we get some, don't

(01:03:44):
let them hurt animals, people, property, homes or businesses.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
Let it stay out of the sea.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
They had one going towards Hawaii that missed, and you
could see the newspeople were drooling. They just they wanted
it so bad because they get their fifteen minutes of fame.

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
But it did not come. All right, well, Bill.

Speaker 7 (01:04:09):
And devastation.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Yeah, as long as they got the camera and the microphone,
all right, Bill, take it away, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah, you kind of have brought up some interesting things
over the past couple of weeks that I keep kind
of coming back to. And as I say, just talking
to folks around in the neighborhood, getting takes on different

(01:04:46):
kinds of experiences. And you know you're talking about about
Bob Buker. I remember him because I'm old enough to
remember that. But baseball guys always seem to me to
have a wonderful sense of humor. They had funny stories.
I remember hearing Joe Gragiola and those guys get together.

(01:05:09):
You heard some just some wonderful kinds of things. And
I think that's, yes, it kind of it kind of.
I don't know if that's still if there are funny
guys like that around anymore or not, but that was
wonderful limit at any rate. One of the things I'm
thinking about this weekend because it was it came up

(01:05:30):
from a conversation with a fellow I know who has
uh had some risk surgery and you know this is
always it's always a kind of a difficult thing for
for the recovery. But what got me thinking about it was,
you know, we've got a lot of different healthcare options

(01:05:53):
for illness or injury, physical injury, physical illness. They have,
you know, irregular mds that will handle a lot of
things that no other particular branch of health there can.
Chiropractice can handle all things. I would not go to

(01:06:14):
a chiropractice or a broken arm. On the other hand,
I would not go to an MB if I had
a real low chronic back pain. Is being able to
make a choice about what I use or what we
use to address a particular problem and recognizing that this
is as you we're talking or we need to be

(01:06:35):
able to think about about how to address these kinds
of issues. But one thing that seemed to me is
that is that I have never experienced personally, and I
have never talked to anybody who's experienced this personally, no
matter what their illness or injury was. Those issues were addressed,

(01:06:58):
but what was not addressed was there as we call
the psycho emotional after effect and the healing. Healing you
talked about earlier is is really a two full process.
And I think the emphasis is has been on on

(01:07:20):
taking care of the ash. We used to call it
a presenting problem. What really brought this on was this
fellow was, who's I don't think he's gonna know as
your doc. He's he's about eighty, so he's You've got

(01:07:41):
a few years, but he's he's He's always been very active.
He built things, he took care of things, He did
a lot of maintenance work, he took care of a
lot of things around around his home and around for
his daughter son of a a lot of his well

(01:08:03):
capability that became compromised because of the wrist surgery. The
hand has never come back quite the way it was,
which is typical. It doesn't matter how what the injury
is or how ill we have become or what we're
never the same afterwards were different. And where I'm headed

(01:08:27):
with this is I think that that the perception of
that difference, the difference in our daily capability, our physical capability,
they create some real problems that I have not seen
addressed as part of that particular healing issue. When if

(01:08:51):
for guys, it's different for men than it is for women,
I think, but it's it's similar in the ultimate after
a fewhysical injury. And I'm thinking of this particular guy,
but you know, I think anybody who's had a physical
injury will experience this too. He can't do the things

(01:09:11):
that he used to do. And so we begin to
confront that response to physical physical injury as well as
just simply the aging process, which does the same thing.
We're not able to do the things we used to do.
We begin to confront what I call the superfluity of life,

(01:09:36):
that we're no longer being ourselves as being useful. We
don't have a purpose, we can't do anything. We're becoming
dependent on others. We need somebody to drive us someplace.
We can't do it ourselves. We need to somebody to
go to the store and pick something up because we
can't go do it ourselves. We need to have somebody

(01:09:57):
come in and fix something that we always used to fix,
but we can't do it anymore. And the feeling of
uselessness and the frustration that comes from that. The two
things that you look for are increasing depression and anxiety.
You're depressed because you can't do anything any or more.

(01:10:18):
Your anxiety goes up because it's what do I do now?
And as I've said over the over the last months
of talking about these sorts of things, that those depressions
and anxiety we run to together there there, as we say,
we call it a comormbivity, but they exist together. The

(01:10:40):
loss of and I don't like the term I've said
this before, but the loss of normality, the loss of
our of our capability to do the stuff that we're
used to doing, it can have can have a profound
effect on us. And we see it with an elderly people.
And you know, look at what we used to call

(01:11:04):
nursing homes. They now call them other stuff. But these
people are are basically of the perception is that they're
no use to society anymore. So we send them off
to some place, whether they're grandparents or parents, or or
people who are who have some kind of disability that

(01:11:24):
they're they're just kind of it pushed aside into their
own own world. I think of a few years I've
thought of that, the assisted living places and nursing homes
or senily the time fillers until folks die, and what

(01:11:47):
can happen to have that turnaround. It's a very difficult thing.
I think. You know, so many cultures, parents and grandparents
live with grandchildren, with children and grandchildren. The family units
stay together. People. If people grow up experiencing children grow

(01:12:09):
up experiencing the whole life cycle. They see their parents,
they see their grandparents, they see uncost cousins, they see
their family. They have that sense of being part of
something that's vibrant. In that sense of vibrancy dissipates and diminishes,

(01:12:31):
the sense of uselessess builds up, the frustration and the
sense of well, you know, what's the point. And the
other side of that is, as we deal with parents
or grandparents who are becoming increasingly the parented, how do
we how do we maintain is I used to describe

(01:12:55):
it with folks who are dealing with this how do
we maintain our own sense of patience with patience the
difference of spelling, how do we became How do we
maintain being patient with somebody who can't remember what day
it is, or where they're supposed to be, or what
toothpastes they're supposed to use, or what shirt did they
wear that shirt is? How do we maintain our sense

(01:13:17):
of perspective and balance and understand that this is part
of the cycle, and to not increase that sense of
uselessness by losing patience with them, losing patience with their
inabilities or as I say, their kind of dysfunctionalities, that increases.

(01:13:41):
The one thing that that I've noticed was working with
elderly people and just and knowing them and with relatives
and all is as they're kind of experiencing this somewhat myself.
But as as as hearing deteriorates and people can hear
less less of what's going on around them or what

(01:14:02):
people are saying to them, they become much more isolated,
much more lone. Uh They they withdraw, they don't they
don't engage in conversations because they can't. And I think
the loss of hearing affects people much more they say

(01:14:23):
the loss of sight or the loss of mobility being
able to get around, uh, hearing. Hearing seems to me
from from years of watching this and both as a
clinician and and just personally with people that are known

(01:14:43):
as people begin to lose their hearing, it really is.
It has become for so so many of these sort
of the beginning of the end and what to do?
How do we how do we how do we approach
people like this and help them understand that they have

(01:15:06):
a lot to offer a lot to say that, yeah,
we have to change gears a lot. We have to
kind of adapt own behavior to their behavior, which is fine,
We certainly have the capability to do that. But again,
addressing that part of the healing or Asian process is

(01:15:27):
something that I have never seen as part of a
treatment plan. As part of a treatment program for someone
if there's there is been minimal, but you know, for
somebody who's had a debilitating illness or a physical injury,
sometimes the psycho emotional part of that healing needs to

(01:15:51):
go on for years. It's not going to get done
in two weeks or six months or a year, because
it affects so much more of that person's life that
just the injury would suggest, they say, the psycho emotional
damage from an illness or a physical injury, or just
or just the aging process. It's far more profound than

(01:16:14):
than most of us in there were really I think
understood or even known how to how to approach you knows.
As a clinician, working with elderly people was in some
ways the richest, most rewarding kind of work because they
have years of experience and stories and enough a full

(01:16:37):
life no matter no matter what what what level of
our culture they were. To have that listen to, To
have that experience and stories and perspectives listened to and

(01:16:58):
appreciate it and enjoyed is really a vital part of
that healing and really vital part of with elderly people,
for instance, again finding a sense of peace within themselves
that their life has not been wasted, for this has
not been destroyed, because here's somebody who's enjoyed being with

(01:17:22):
me and listening to me and talking to me and
laughing and sometimes crying. But to even within ourselves to
understand that as we deal with our own illness or
personal injury, that there is this long aftermath. Because as

(01:17:43):
I said a minute ago. These kinds of things happened
to us, and we're never the same afterwards, which we've changed.
We're different. We've had more life flap us up along
the head, and it makes the difference in how we
look at ourselves and look at others. And I think
to recognize within ourselves that these events in our lives

(01:18:07):
can have profound They all have some kind of change capability,
but they can't have a profound change capability. And to
find a sense of balance with that, and to not
necessarily try to fight it because because you can't. I
used to have told several patients who are dealing with depression.

(01:18:28):
They said, you know, I wake up in the morning
and I'm feeling terrible, and I fight it, and I
fight it all day long, and I just keep getting worse.
And I would say, okay, quit fighting it. If you're
going to have a lousy day, have a luger day,
and be okay with it. Tomorrow will be better. But
get this out of your system. If you try and
fight it, you put it off, it's just going to

(01:18:48):
last a little longer. So go on, get on with it.
Move it. It's okay. It's okay to be depressed for
a couple of days. Sometimes that depression runs into weeks
or months that becomes maybe a little different. But again,
where do we find our sense of balance and how
do we look at ourselves and recognize if this is

(01:19:10):
you know, as you mentioned a little one of the
we're all different, we all respond to things differently. But
this is part of our part of our journey, this
is part of who we are, and to learn to
be okay with that seems to be one of our
one of our big challenges, one of our big challenges

(01:19:31):
dealing with our own isolation. Like the said, how many
people do we know that everything they say is right
and everybody else is wrong? A lot a lot of
people we recognize that they may not be there quite yet.
All right, It's part of who we are, it's our
part of personality. If we're if we're right all the time,

(01:19:56):
there's a problem. There's a problem solation that results from
that kind of behavior. To be again be profoundly devastating
to the end of our life. And you know, tomorrow
is the end of our life. Every day is the

(01:20:16):
end We've got. We've got all these experiences of our
life too. Who recall and learn from and grow from.
Hopefully by the time you don't rage, we'll put some
of it together. Maybe not. Anyway, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Wow, when you were a therapist or when you were
analyzing psychos as, I say, what was Well? I know
you say psychoanalysis. I just changed it a little bit.
But my way is probably more accurate. But what was

(01:20:56):
an average?

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Because you're right all.

Speaker 8 (01:20:58):
The time, sus Susie.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Happy, I spend more time being wrong. That's why I'm
That's why I'm amazed. On social media how many people
know everything?

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Yeah? Ask a question.

Speaker 8 (01:21:21):
Yeah, well, before you and Susie were mean to me
and made me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Have to drink early, how do you deal with this
persecution complex? We should talk about this sometimes.

Speaker 8 (01:21:33):
I'd just rather drink.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
But anyway, what was an average when you met a
patient that you would you would see, you know in
your office?

Speaker 8 (01:21:43):
Did it like for depression? Did you see somebody for.

Speaker 9 (01:21:47):
A long time?

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
No, real answer to that. I I think for the
people that were willing to understan and what was happening
to them that lasted a while, For people that that
didn't want to hear I didn't want to didn't want
to hear themselves, didn't want to hear what they were saying,

(01:22:14):
didn't want to deal with their own it was self honest.
Now they were gone on a couple of weeks. You know,
people come in and they want to hear what they
want to hear. If you're not going to tell them
what they want to hear, they're going to be gone.
For people who are serious about this issue, whatever that
issue was, there was a part of them that recognized

(01:22:37):
that this was that what they were dealing with was
not this moment, but was a lifetime of behavior. How
do we how do we begin to adjust that? And
they recognized that that was a long process. And as
I used to say, one of one of the great

(01:22:58):
things about being a clination was that the patients were
the ones that had to do all the hard work.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Yeah, I would think that the worst job you ever
would have had doing counseling was marriage counseling.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I didn't like it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:16):
That's a double edged sword. I don't know if i'd
even want to go down there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Well, yeah, and I typically didn't. I would see one
or the other. But I learned fairly quickly in that
in that career to not see two people at the
same time, not see a couple. There are people who
do very well with that, who understand that dynamic. I
was I was much too individualisticly directed to deal with

(01:23:44):
that kind of relational the interplay. It just did not
appeal to me.

Speaker 8 (01:23:50):
Yeah, that that would be tough.

Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
The only time I dealt with couples was when.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
They were concerned about having making a baby, or they
thought they'd lost some of the desire, or he doesn't
or she doesn't.

Speaker 8 (01:24:10):
And a lot of times it was this hormone imbalance.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
And once we got and that that comes down to
an individual an individual situation. You're working with a patient
in a relational situation.

Speaker 8 (01:24:23):
Yeah, And when it was couples, it was fun because
I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
This one case, the lady thought maybe he's lost interest
in me, but that wasn't the case. And they were both,
you know, young and attractive and all the right things.
But there was some imbalances and we just needed to
adjust that.

Speaker 8 (01:24:48):
And one the couple came in and they'd been.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
Married longer and there were some issues, and mostly for
the poor wife, but she was very receptive and willing
to do everything. And I got a phone call from
the husband one day and he said, I don't know
what you've done or what you're giving her, but keep
it up.

Speaker 8 (01:25:13):
It's wonderful. So that made it fun when you had
to do that kind of stuff. But I never had
to do the marriage. I had to do a lot
of kid parent counseling, but never a marriage. Did you
do a lot of that, Bill, Did you have patients
bringing to the children and they were at odds?

Speaker 9 (01:25:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
And again it was that's pretty much of a specialty,
and that was not something that not something that I
felt particularly qualified to pursue. It's a whole different ballgame.
And the more people you have, the more complex the

(01:26:01):
layers become, and the onion gets bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
Yeah, and they probably would frown on the kid being
chained to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
The chair or something, yeah, or whack with it yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Uh and and oh my god, I remember some of
the people that had put their kids on those medications
and look.

Speaker 8 (01:26:27):
Out they had some bad times.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Yeah, that was not a good thing.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
Cy is he anything on what wild Bill had?

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Nope?

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
No, No, really, I mean fantastic information. I just wish
that our culture was likely with culture where they you know,
treasure they're elderly and take care of them. And they
see them for what they are, and that is very

(01:27:04):
very wise individuals that are just getting older.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Yeah, well, you know, it's like like my poor mom,
she's been fortunate in a way because she ends up
with her like her own apartment, and her husband does
it seem to want to get well. Like Bill said,
sometimes they just you know, they don't want, they don't
want and uh so he's in a whole different section

(01:27:31):
and he has full time care and you know, but
she's got kind of a new life and got her
own room and her own like it's her own apartment,
little refrigerator and uh plants and you know, patio and
she's got she really likes it. She's got almost like

(01:27:54):
a second life started. So for her, that's pretty good. Now,
there are people in my family that have not treated
her so great. Are people that would do nice things
for you, but then pat themselves on the back so
bad that they got to let everybody know what a

(01:28:14):
martyr they are and how they're sacrificing. And then one
of the bad things is I try to remind people
all the time, like my mom, she's still the oldest
member of this family. She's not the kid, she's the mom,

(01:28:35):
and you don't get the boss her around and tell
her you can give her suggestions. But I have family
members that have taken her shopping and told her she
couldn't have what she wanted because they thought it might
be bad for her. And I said, tell me what
you want and I'll.

Speaker 8 (01:28:52):
Get it delivered to you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Because when you reach an age, and I don't care
really what age it is, if you want something, go
do it. Don't listen to everybody else's opinion unless you
just want to hear what they think. But if something
that you like or want or want to do that,
the decision needs to come down to you and your

(01:29:17):
conscience and your heart and soul. So I'm glad my
mom likes where she's at. I've been able to get
her things there and you could tell it really made
her happy. And she's got good friends, so it's pretty nice.
And anyway, we are at break time, Susie, you got
that recipe with Booze. I'm hoping even though you said

(01:29:40):
you don't, I know you're holding out on me. And
don't worry, Producer Steve, I've got one more love song
for you coming up. Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen Susie Bill,
producer Steve and myself.

Speaker 8 (01:29:57):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 11 (01:31:27):
If I never hear your name again, it's all the
same to me, And I think.

Speaker 15 (01:31:33):
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the morning's sunny shine.

Speaker 9 (01:31:40):
I hear a rubber ball.

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Can I pick a love song or what I mean?

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Come on, Welcome back to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Dowers,
the home of the greatest jokes and in that case,
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is time to help Sissy with the name of the company.
I happen to know for a fact that it is
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and new construction. You can go to dot Creeper dot
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(01:33:17):
link and taking to our website.

Speaker 8 (01:33:19):
Sund you, ladies and gentlemen, if you noticed that all
this time I try to help her with the name,
and she's never said I was right. There's gotta be
a problem there, gotta be all right, take it.

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
Away, susy.

Speaker 7 (01:33:35):
Okay, So since you are not able to make regular donuts,
I'll leave it at that. This is donut bars, okay.
So this is all he wants. You don't have to
cut him out little circles. So this is also a

(01:33:57):
very good example of how you think the recipe. So
let's see what is it? What does it say here?
Trying to figure out how how big this is? How
big of a recipe? It's a nine thirteen catsuw dish. Okay, Well,
that's plenty two and a half cuffs of all purpose flour,

(01:34:21):
which means you're organic or ancient grains, flower tea, spins
of bacon patterns, one teaspoon of bacon soda. You have
to tooth spin of ground nutmeg and ground nutmeg from
the store shelf. I'm not a fan of it. Come

(01:34:43):
like ground coomin. We don't use a lot of it.
And we use it, you know, around Thanksgiving, and we
use it you know around Christmas. You know, might use it.
I use a little bit to sprinkle on top of
the keyste but for the most part, we don't. We

(01:35:06):
don't use a lot of it. So I like to
get whole organic nutmeg and I just keep it in
my fridge and these these little ceramic I got ceramic
nutmeg grinder, and that's really kind of the easiest way.

(01:35:27):
And then that way it stays. I've had my jar
of nutmeg for probably three years, maybe a little bit
longer in my fridge. So a tea spin a good
Celtic sea thought. I have a cup of unsalted butter,

(01:35:47):
and you want it to be softened room temperature, and
then three quarters of a cup of granulated sugar. So
again you can use your raw whole cane sugar hair,
two eggs, teaspoon and vanilla, three quarters of a cup
of buttermilk. And so you just turn start heating your

(01:36:11):
oven to three fifty and then agrees a nine by
thirteen baking pans, or you can line it with quart paper,
and that's what I really prefer. And even still with
the parchment paper, at least this recipe, I would probably

(01:36:34):
go ahead and greasee that paper down. And here's a trick.
Don't throw away those butter wrappers. Put them in a
baggy and put them in your in your fridge. And
when you have to do a task like this, take
one out and then use it and rub down that

(01:36:59):
pan or parchment paper. So you're gonna and then maybium bowl.
You're gonna mix all of your dry ingredients together. And
the recipe does say you don't have to agree that
the nutmeg is the key to the recipe here, that
it gives it that old fashioned buttermilk donut flavor. And

(01:37:25):
then in a large bowl, pring together your butter and
your sugar in soil. It's fluffy and this makes for
a very tender cake like texture. Add your eggs, this
kind of old school comment, one at a time, you know,

(01:37:49):
mixing it well. Then stir in yours vanilla extract and
use real vanilla. Don't use the imitation nasty, not good
for you chemicals. So then you're going to start adding
your flour mixture, mixture and buttermilk to your butter and sugar,

(01:38:14):
and just go back and forth at flour and some
more of your buttermilk, flour, more buttermilk. I don't over
mix it. If you overmix it, you're gonna end up
with a really dense bar and you don't you don't
want that, So you're gonna bake it. Until you're gonna

(01:38:38):
bake it at twenty two to twenty five minutes. In
my oven, it was probably closer to the twenty two.
And you can stick a toothpick in it to make
it to see if it comes out clean. And then
you're gonna let the bar bar cool before you put
the glaze on them. So so a glaze, it's a

(01:39:02):
little trickier to come up with an alternative. So it
is a half a cup of unsalted butter. And this
calls for one and a half cups of powdered sugar. Now,
if you're not opposed to it, do it. Most stores

(01:39:22):
have an organic sugar powdered sugar. I just don't use it.
Two tablespoons of pure maple syrup, one teaspoon of vanilla
being paste or vanilla extract, one to two tablespoons of milk,

(01:39:44):
and put one tablespoon in. See how it does. Add
the next one if you need to. So what it
did was I found a recipe for a glaze and
it's low carb, and I've been using the allulose or

(01:40:09):
sometime I make a carnivore ice cream and one of
the keys.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
To it being.

Speaker 7 (01:40:19):
Not soft, but you know, what I mean, like a
regular ice cream, not like soft serve, but just having
a softer texture. A lot of times when you make
homade ice cream, it'll be it'll be pretty rock hard.
The aulos, for some reason, doesn't let it get rock hard,

(01:40:41):
and your product, your ice cream, is creamier. You can
use a scoop like normal and you know, scoop out
your little little balls of ice cream if you will.
So because of that aspect, I figured that the allulose
would probably be a good alternative two, even the organic

(01:41:07):
powdered sugar. So it's not as sweet as sugar. You know,
some products you can use one to one two achieve
the sweetness level. With aulos, if you used it straight,
you would have to use a little more. So whereas

(01:41:31):
this recipe you get back over there calls for one
and a half cups of powdered sugar, you probably have
to use two cups of aulos, and you know it's
not well, yeah, it's kind of expensive. So the best

(01:41:51):
alternative is to use half allulose and then half like
a swerve. It's a blend, a powdered swerve, and I'm
seeing it in the most grocery stores allulos, know, at
least not in my area.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
I order it on.

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
On Amazon. I did see a month or so ago
that sprouts carried allulose, So so those of you that
have a sprout nearby, So if you need to keep this,
you know, low carved, and that's that's gonna be the
way to do it. And I hesitate to say this

(01:42:38):
disglaze recipe calls one cup of powdered monk fruit. Well,
that's not going to do that. So half allulose and
then and then half like the swerve powdered. It's going
to get you there, Uh, three to four tablespoons of
water or heavy cream. I suggest, of course the heavy cream,

(01:43:02):
and then a half a tea spin of vanilla extract
or you could do like lemon, or you could do orange.
But if you wanted to maintain the traditional buttermilk donut
flavor first time around, I think I would do the vanilla.

(01:43:24):
So there's no cooking to this. You're gonna add your
heavy cream to your powdered sweetener, and then you're gonna
add your vanilla and then just use a whisk, you know,
until everything is devolved. And then back over here to
your buttermilk donut bars. Then you're gonna just spread that

(01:43:49):
that glaze on top of your donut bars and there
you go, dot easy peasy, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
I have one question why aluolo instead of something like
cane sugar.

Speaker 7 (01:44:04):
Because it's a glaze. You're not going to get a
smoothe consistency.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Okay, because there's the jury's still out on alulos, and
Europe and Canada and maybe Australia you can't they don't
have it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
And here there is what's that.

Speaker 7 (01:44:31):
I'm listening.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
No, I've just said that you can get it here,
but the other countries have said that it just hasn't
been on the market long enough for them to know
if it's negative or positive. It supposedly it's created naturally
in small amounts and some kind of I forget which fruit,

(01:44:56):
it was, figs maybe, and but it's got an alcohol
thing going on, and the FDA has approved it here,
which is always scarce me. But I don't know if
I've ever had alulo since something I've tried when you
were talking, I was trying to remember.

Speaker 8 (01:45:20):
But I have seen it and read about it.

Speaker 7 (01:45:25):
Well, I did some reading on it, and I decided
to give it a try. One of the main see,
I don't know a problems with montfreet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Like you do.

Speaker 7 (01:45:39):
The granular or the golden or the patterns. So you know,
that's why I was trying to come up. Well, okay,
back to the ice cream, the carnivore ice cream recipe.
I wanted that smooth texture, is like store bought ice cream.
And I played around with it and with some other sweeteners,

(01:46:04):
alternative sweeteners. And you know, one of the things about
the carnivore ice cream, you know, unlike some of the
recipes out there were that have you literally cook your
milk and add your eggs to it, you know, cooking it.

(01:46:25):
I wanted the benefit of the raw milk and the
raw cream, and so I didn't want to expose it
to any heat. Yeah, and the lady that there was
one lady in there. This is why I like it
when people make comments. And she commented that her ice

(01:46:52):
cream was smoother and creamier when she used uh when
she used that maybe about a couple of years ago.
I started using it, but I don't use it in
a lot of products. So you know, my thoughts here
on the donut bars was that considering it's to nine

(01:47:19):
by thirteen tens. You're not getting like an overload of it.
You could use straight all swarve and I've been using
the swarm for probably ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
Well, the nice thing is, I don't think anybody knows
enough about it long term yet for you to have
to worry using a little bit. Europe they're really strict,
so they're going to wait and run their own tests.
In Canada and I think Australia because they're all tied

(01:47:57):
to England. That's probably just caution. But I haven't seen
anything positively bad about it, and the only thing to
discouraged me was that the FDA approved it.

Speaker 8 (01:48:11):
I never feel good when they do something, but it
sounds good.

Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
What I'm seeing here is you know the origin and
the natural status of it. So what it's saying is
that it's found in Keighley and dates and things.

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Yeah, that's what I read.

Speaker 8 (01:48:35):
Was the figs.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
Well, I would keep trying it, and unless somebody comes
up with something that says it's bad, I know they
liked it because it didn't affect your blood sugar. It
didn't have all the negatives of some of them. Other
and I don't like to say an alternative to sugar,
because most of the alternatives are man made, synthetic junk.

(01:49:02):
This one's not unless somebody alters it somewhere. So I
think you're doing good, and you're right.

Speaker 8 (01:49:10):
The donuts sounded, uh great, I don't have to cook.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
Well, yeah, you go down to the corner and get
some donuts. But if you want to try it, then yeah,
I can't do that.

Speaker 8 (01:49:34):
Well yeah, ladies and gentlemen, if you didn't hear us
last week, we were talking about or the week before, donuts.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
And I think we probably all love them. And there's
all different kinds, and you go places that have colotchis
and all kinds of breakfast stuff. And as he said, well,
when you see this natural recipe, you're gonna want to
go buy your own donuts. And she was right, there's

(01:50:06):
no way I was doing that recipe, No way, And
Susy won't drive over here and do it for us.

Speaker 8 (01:50:14):
So I'm going to go to the donut shop.

Speaker 7 (01:50:17):
I could, but you know, one of my stipulations would be, Okay,
if I make the donuts, you've got to clean up
the kitchen.

Speaker 8 (01:50:28):
Uh see, yeah, I knew you were going to turn
it nasty.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
I was thinking that would be so nice of you
to be cooking, and then I would be eating the
donuts while you were.

Speaker 8 (01:50:41):
Cleaning the kitchen.

Speaker 7 (01:50:47):
That was coming.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
What do you think?

Speaker 8 (01:50:49):
What do you think, Bill?

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
Am I never going to win this one?

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
I would say that would be that would be correct?

Speaker 8 (01:50:57):
Yeah, poor Hunley? All right, is your hubby home?

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
Well? I thought I heard something and I just walked
out of my studio room which is called the bedroom,
and he's outside on the riding lawn bowder, going around
in circles.

Speaker 8 (01:51:21):
That's a working man. He worked all day and come
home and ride in a lawnmower. Huh right, Well that
means that means.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
You must have something pretty fabulous in the way of
them baked potatoes that he's working up energy. All right, Well,
we're at that time of night, guys, and producer Steve,
if you've ever got anything you'd like to throw in,
you're always welcome to jump in there, and you could
tell him more about your own show, which is really cool.

Speaker 8 (01:51:51):
Susy. Anything you want to close.

Speaker 7 (01:51:53):
Out with, Well, I'll just tell you I was feeling.
I'm feeling as good as I was when we first
talked this afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:52:06):
Oh, that's wonderful. I'm so happy. I was telling Susie earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
We go back and forth and she tries to describe
to me what's going on, and finally the other day
she really told me, and the light bulb went on
and I knew exactly what we needed to do for
and I told her, you make me look smart, and

(01:52:33):
I also told her you in your mind. Before we
got to that point, she died three times and I
told her to walk it off, which was kind of
true because if.

Speaker 8 (01:52:49):
You listen to her, it's bad news.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
And then all of a sudden, she tells me in
a different way the same story, and I knew exactly
what was wrong, and I told her, I said, I'd
like to tell you how smart I am, but this
is something I've dealt with an awful lot and it's
pretty simple. And if she was close by, we could
have fixed it in fifteen minutes. So that that's always

(01:53:16):
a good feeling when you can help somebody. But I
was able to give her some good information and her
and Hunley have become pretty good remote doctors, so we've
got them trained to do a lot of things from
me talking to them on the phone.

Speaker 8 (01:53:32):
So that's pretty cool. But I'm glad you're feeling better.

Speaker 7 (01:53:38):
It is comical to have you own speakerphone and then
have me laying down, you know, whatever position you want
him in, and then me doing you know whatever kind
of physical attack. Oh, you call it adjustments. You know
that it is funny.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
So you know.

Speaker 7 (01:54:02):
That can help you over the phone. I'm pretty positive.

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
Yeah, we can make some of those videos.

Speaker 9 (01:54:11):
How to do video?

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:54:14):
Hello, Bill, don't tell me no, I know you got
if you could talk to him about coffee, anything you want.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Yeah. Though, one of the things that I was has
been where and I don't want to get into this
thing with mister Kirk, but I have been mh basically
depressed by the kind of vengeance it is being exercised

(01:54:51):
by both both perspectives on this whole thing. One of
the things that you have cities has always prided themselves
with is having a platform for the civil disagreement, different opinions,

(01:55:15):
different perspectives, different viewpoints. And it seems that that has
disappeared over the last thirty years or so. And I
think that I read an article today and I had
to agree with them that this is not not something

(01:55:36):
that we can blame purely on faculty, but it is
an administrative direction to curtail disagreement, and disagreement has always
been a hallmark of a university and it should be
and to have different opinions and different ideas able to

(01:56:00):
be talked about and have not people get upset. I
remember years ago, and I probably talked about this. This
was back in the mid sixties. We had Every Wednesday
morning there was a I think it was like a convocation.
Different speakers would come in and in an auditorium they
would they would present whatever. There was a fellow that

(01:56:25):
came in whose name was Bob Guccioni, and I don't
know if that name means anything to you, but he
was the publisher of Penthouse magazine. Oh. I thought it
was interesting that they asked him to come in and
talk about his viewpoints. What was disturbing to me, even

(01:56:48):
at the time was that he was shouted down and
run off the campus by a fairly small group of addisonants.
And at that point, I have seen that kind of
censorship by liberals become more and more evident, and it's

(01:57:12):
it's a disturbing trend for education to go that route.
I don't you know, I don't know. I never heard
mister Kirk talk about anything. I don't know his perspectives
other than what I have heard very generally. But to
disallow any kind of of a different viewpoint, it seems

(01:57:36):
to me to be the end of the university system.
That will change. But this is where it is right now.
I found it very discouraging.

Speaker 7 (01:57:44):
Yeah, well what I like, Well, I got to agree
with that. You know, when when Charlie Kirk was first
doing the university scene, he to do it indoors, you know,
do it out there their auditoriums or you know whatever.

(01:58:07):
But even these places that received state in federal funding, uh,
they told him, no, no, we can't have a different
opinion come in here. So they couldn't keep him from
setting up outside. So that's why Z Dance began to

(01:58:27):
you know, pop up outdoors at university campusis.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:58:32):
So what I liked about him, go ahead, I just said.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
What I liked is he let these kids talk whether
he agreed or not. And I never seen him get upset.
I never seen him talk him, talk down to him.
He let him know that their opinion mattered, even if
he didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:58:52):
Think it was right.

Speaker 7 (01:58:56):
Right, and so you don't see the left doing that.
You know, let anyone come up to the on the floor,
to the microphone and talk or ask the questions, you know,
if they did not to was the line of the speaker,

(01:59:18):
if you will, or the interviewer, they were shut down.
And you're absolutely right. I cannot find I've been following
Charlie a long time. I cannot find a single interview
where he was mean or angry. And even when some
woman talked to him, he was always courteous and smiling.

Speaker 4 (01:59:38):
Yeah, he was a good guy. I think everything I
saw he did something good. And he reached the kids.
There was somebody on one of them one day told him,
what do you think you're doing here? You're you're thirty
or thirty one, right, aren't you too old to be

(01:59:59):
talked to to these kids? And he said, I vote?
He said, do you vote? She said yeah. He said,
well that's why I'm here. I'm talking to voters. I'm
not talking to people's ages or anything. I'm talking to voters.

Speaker 8 (02:00:16):
And then she didn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
What to say.

Speaker 8 (02:00:18):
All right, well, great job, I love the place, Mats,
that's been really cool tonight and I guess you and
Steve's still hooking up doing that, Susy.

Speaker 7 (02:00:35):
No, Steven, because of the way I've been Steven did
all of that to gets all of the apple let.

Speaker 4 (02:00:42):
Oh yeah, because you were out of it pretty much
for the last few days. Well, thank you Steve, Thank
you Susy when you are able and doing all that
with him, because you guys have made a great team.
And thank you Bill for being here and bringing us
your perspective. I haven't There hadn't been a night when

(02:01:03):
you haven't done a talk where I didn't pick up
something or look at something different, And I think that's cool.
And I have a feeling when you were a professor
and a counselor that you definitely helped people learn to think.

Speaker 8 (02:01:22):
All right, guys, it's that time.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
I am so grateful.

Speaker 8 (02:01:30):
What's that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
Getting ready to say good cigars and good gosh? It
kind of choked Joe.

Speaker 8 (02:01:38):
Yeah, all right, Well, I'm glad, Susie's well.

Speaker 4 (02:01:46):
I hope producer, Steve and Bill stay well, and ladies
and gentlemen, I hope that all of you that God
blesses you with health and happiness and keeps your lives
peace full, free and safe, and yes it is time
for good Scotch, good cigars, and good night.

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
You don't know.

Speaker 13 (02:02:14):
Godless, seems the love I've known has always been the
most destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so
old before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the

(02:02:36):
taste of life was sweeper has rain upon my tongue.

Speaker 9 (02:02:42):
I teased at length, as if it were a foolish.

Speaker 13 (02:02:45):
Game, the way that even breathe may tease a candle flame.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
The thousand dreams I dreamed.

Speaker 13 (02:02:55):
The splendid things I planned, I always built to on weekend,
shifting sand. I lived by night and shun the naked
light of day. And only now I see how the
years ran away yesterday, when I was

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