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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi, everyone, It's me Francisco and welcome to another episode
of David and Goliath Podcasts, your weekly podcast that motivates
you to be. Let me say a better person. Before
we get deep in today episode, I'm going to share
with you a video that touched me one year ago.
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It's Krit Smash, a former NBA basketball player, talking about
Kobe Bryant's dedication on his Hall of Fame speech. For
those of you who doesn't know what is a Hall
of Fame, It's an American institution where the best basketball
at least are honor day one.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So the goal was to be the first one at breakfast.
So I set my alarm, I make sure I'm up
by sunrise, I get out of bed, I put on
my gear, and I head downstairs. But when I get there,
Kobe's already there with ice packs on his knees, drenched
in sweat. Now it took me a minute to figure
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it out. But this guy wasn't only awake before me.
He had already worked out. He had just played in
the finals days earlier. Meanwhile, I'd been off for months
and I was still exhausted. What he had done that
morning was incomprehensible to me that dedication he had only
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days after falling short of an NBA championship. That taught
me something I've never forgotten. Legends aren't defined by their successes.
They're defined by how they bounce back from their failures.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Kopy one of the persons widemire most not only because
is one of the best or was one of the
best players in the history of the game, but also
and foremost because of his mentality, his way of being
better every second of the day. It's something that it's
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very spectacular in correlation with this. I'm reading raydal you
book Principles. I haven't finished reading the book yet, and
I think I already told you about the five steps
process that you talk about on his book. It's not
the twelve Rules for Life by George Peterson, but five
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little ones which are very easy to remember but at
the same time very tough to implement. So the five
steps are number one, setting goals. Number two, finding obstacles
and fall down number three, analyzing the roots of the
problem which you encounter in number four, creates a bunch
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of solution for those problems, and five implement those solutions
and moving forward. According to Ray Value, if you do this,
you'll reach levels of success even higher, and for him,
that's the key for happy life. Also, he says, for
you to implement this in your life, you have to
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be brutally honest with yourself, accepting reality as it is.
As he says so, and also with the others. Dream
big and determination accomplish accomplish them. Wouldn't be great if
everybody play applies into their lives. I know more or
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less what Cobby did through his life. He would spend
five hours in front of the screen watching the game
he already played, in some cases just hours after he played.
Like you have heard, his determination, determination was something quite
of the ordinary. Let me say so, can you imagine
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the mental toughness to watch the tape of the final
game that he lost just hours after? For me, I
don't think so I could do it. I couldn't watch
the tape right after the game. I would take a
couple of days to be able to do it. Facing
the reality as it is and having an extra extraordinary
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open mind is something that we will continue to work on.
That's what Radaliu suggests in five steps process of his book.
In other words, what he has written is no more
than facing reality as it is, plus Jimmy big and determination.
Having these three ingredients combined together, you have suex and
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oh boy, how this Kobe and Daliu had a fulfilling life. Well,
Dalliu is not dead yet. I know a guy that
has these principles into his life. Well, it's start to
use it. It does not call the five steps process, but
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he's facing reality, continues to dream, and continues to have
big determination, not the reality he has faced for the
last forty six years, but to one he is now
facing his life right now. And so his name is me. Yes,
it's me. I really want to share my story with
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you today in this episode. I hope by the end
of it you will find out why I'm doing the
weekly based podcast and the truth meaning of telling you
about these stories. I'm feeling very uncomfortable doing it, but
at the same time I feel I have to do it.
I hope I am not doing another mistake. But if
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I don't go for it, I will not know the result.
And I can tell you I'm very curious on that.
Today is my turn. I really truly hope you enjoy
This is the David and Goliath podcast, and I will
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tell you real stories from normal people who had great,
mighty wars and defeated their giants. A few years ago,
I saw a national geographic documentary about civil aviation, another
passion of mine airplanes. In the documentary speaks appointing seven
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four seven captain from New Zealand Airlines, showing if chief
he changed by one percent the route between Auckland and
Los Angeles by the end of the year, he would
be saving millions of dollars in fuel. What I'm saying
is making small corrections to our daily abbots produce fantastic
long term results. And that's what I had done one
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year ago. Like the greatest ones whom I am inspired
every day, and how this gentleman influenced my life to
the point where I wanted to do something different in
my community, in my country, something meaningful, something bigger than me.
But at the beginning until last year, what I was
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trying to do was showing outside myself that I was
good enough, that I was good and I was hoping
that everyone would have the same opinion. My professional activity
begun in a company belonging to one of the most
important groups working here in Madeira Island. I was like
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a sponge. I want to learn how to run the company,
how to manage people and negotiate with suppliers. I wanted
to be in the eyes of the customers, like someone
very competent and how I was. Over time, I got
used to it and I was already using everything I
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had learned. After almost three years working at that place,
I felt so confident in myself that I hoped that
one day I would be invited to rise through the
ranks to be one of the group's top managers. But
I soon realized that this would be impossible because there
were too many interest people in the same goal as
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I was, and to get there, many of them had
to give up or die. And as that was impossible,
I resigned and went to work elsewhere. The people closer
to me told me I was crazy. I had left
a secure job to start another one that could close overnight.
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I was, according to them, throwing my security out of
the window, as if in this world there is something
said safe. So I started working at the company as
the top manager, just as I wanted it, and on
the top of that, within my field of study, which
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is engineering. I was there about more or less four
and a half years. There I learned the fundamentals of management, accounting,
human resources, managing outsourcing contracts, and a portfolio of very
demanding customers. But at the end of four and a
half years, one day when I arrived from holidays, the
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administration board went to meet me and fire me. They
told me that the results were not as they expected
and what they imagined for the company was not the
path I was going to. So I was fired three
weeks before my youngest daughter was born, and also at
the peak of twelve twenty twelve crisis, the year in
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which Portugal was going through one of the worst economic
crisis in memory. The ingredients were established for me to
open my company in Portugal. When we become unemployed, the
government pay us a salary like a form of support
until we can find a new job. After being fired
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and having been paid compensation, I went with my father
to the employment center to register so I could receive
the blessed money. On the way home, my phone rings
with several clients that I had required at the old
company and who wanted several quotes for work that needed
to be carried out. I got home and mentioned what
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happened to my wife. At the time, my idea would
be too opened my own company and be the master
of my destiny. She agreed, and so the next morning
I went to the employment center to take my name
of the list. When I arrived, I was with by
a lady. I explained what I wanted to withdraw my
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name from the employment center and to open my company.
She answered yes and asked me if I wanted to
apply for support that the government was giving so to
the people that could own their own business. I asked, so.
How long the process took place, and she applied between
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six to nine months. I said that it was impossible
because I had clients who wanted work for tomorrow, so
I didn't even apply, and on September eleventh, twenty twelve,
I opened my company. I invented the person who worked
with me in the other company, and so we began
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the adventure of installing air conditioning on the Madeira Island
for nine months. He was a technician and I was
his assistant, as we did not have our own facilities.
Every day, after dropping my daughter off at school, I
would pick it up at a certain place, we would
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have coffee and go to work. The company's address was
in my apartment, which also was my office. Our warehouse
was a space taken over by one of our clients
where we went every day to stock up or collect
material to carry out services. The lasts about nine months
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until we rented the garage. In the first year of
the company, we had so much work that I had
to hire three more people. Suddenly went from two to
five people, but I didn't care because we were having
se sass and that's what mattered me. By the end
of the day. From twenty twelve to twenty eighteen, we
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were in the main projects that were being implemented here
on Madeira Island. Many companies wanted to work with us.
I met many people, many business people and even so
so called influential people, but I also made some enemies
who always wanted to take me down. On December sixth,
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twenty eighteen, I reached the highest point in my professional career.
We won award from one of the best five hundred
companies work in Madeira. I had finally achieved my goal
of twenty twelve, putting my name in the spotlight of
Timber business fame. I was so proud of myself. From
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here on, my professional and personal life continued to decline.
Not continue, you start to decline until six of March
of twenty twenty three last year. A few months before
we received this award, we decided to expand the business
to the Portuguese capital Lisbon. In January twenty nineteen, the
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company's branch was opening in Lisbon. I hired good technician
and a good administrative person to get started, but oddly enough,
they were the only competent people I hired. Everyone else
had a different mindset that than those I defended, and
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therefore should never been hired. At the same time, here
in mad Era, work unexpectedly decline. A finance director advised
me to fire people. I said no, I didn't want
my company to be like so many others with where
profit was the main objective. I wanted my company to
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be like a family, where we would all stick together
through good and bad times. That's why I didn't fire them,
keeping them in the company. How naive I was, I
didn't hear no one saying differently of what I thought.
At that time, all the money that was being generated
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was to pay salaries and nothing else. For the first time,
I started failing to pay the government and suppliers. In
the meantime, I managed to find money to inject into
the company. In other words, I got into debt so
I could inject money and survive. Things got better. We
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got a good contract that would would give us for
work another year. With that contract plus the ones in
Lisbon in the space of one year, I could manage
to get everything right. But the pandemic was not in
my plans. I was stuck on the island, and also
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I couldn't get to Lisbon. I also didn't apply for
state support because at that time I still owed money
to the state and payments were being negotiated. The last
mistake I didn't send anyone to lay off. As if
this wasn't enough, I discovered that Lisbon staff were being
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poorly managed by the branch managers. We start to have
clients who refuse to pay their invoices because the work
was being done poorly or in some cases had not
been carried out out at all. When it was possible,
I flew to Lisbon, and as soon as I arrived
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at the place, I realized that also I was being robbed,
with fifty people under my responsibility, with no money coming
into the company and therefore not being able to pay
suppliers and the state. I decided in April twenty twenty
one to close branches in Lisbon, but it was too
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late because the evil let me say so, had already
reached the business in Madeira. The entire island quickly began
to know that my company was experiencing economic difficulties. Therefore,
naturally the big contracts were terminated by the clients as
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well as there were no new contracts, so that we
could have more money coming into the coming in and
therefore recovered the company. I started falling to pay salaries
and as a result, people start to resign. At the
end of September twenty twenty one, of fifty people I
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had hired, only six and I stay at the company.
Everything else flew away. At the same time, the person
I had invited to work with me back in twenty
twenty twenty twelve ad stolen material and tools for nine years.
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The person was my right hand man, the person I
had one hundred percent full trust. I went to court
to file for the company bankruptcy and there as again
some breeding space so I could negotiate the payment of
debts to the government, bank and suppliers. And that's what
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happened in the first six months of twenty twenty two.
At the same time, I was finding jobs, saw what
we could continue with the company and pay salaries to
those who remained. In August of twenty twenty twenty two,
a client of mine helped me. He wanted to inject
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money into the company and thereby saved the company and
everything related to I was finally starting to see light
at the end of the tunnel, but none of this happened,
and so I returned to court in January twenty twenty three.
I reported that investor and refused at last minute. I
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want to make it clear that I did not feel
or no or nor do I feel any resentment because
of this decision. If I were in his shoes, I
might do the same thing. The company was very bad financially.
Three weeks later it was my wife turned to me
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and said that she wanted to leave me. Due to
bankruptcy of the company, the bank's debts began to be
reverted to us, as the debt was quite large after
sixteen years. On February of the Thoughts twenty twenty three,
I was the fourth divorced. I remember a few weeks
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later my car broke down and its engine collapsed. At
six of March twenty twenty three, I was closing my
company and hitting rock bottom. Suddenly I was alone. Everything
was gone. I was rock at the rock bottom, bleeding
from every pore of my body, with doctor strength to
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stand up. I was emotionally dead. Apparently Mi Goliath had
defeated me. I went to live in an apartment in
a social neighborhood here in Fanchal. I remember one day
waking up and wondering if this is or was all
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just a nightmare. Living in that apartment for six months
gave me a lesson in humility, and you can even
imagine how much I love living there. Little by little,
new people began to appear, one of them to open
a company in the same line of business as my
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former company, and there we went. In April twenty twenty three,
almost one year ago, also a person appeared and gave
me his shoulder to cry on, And oh boy, how
I cry on that shoulder. I relyed myself internally, I
saw the causes of my fall. I wiped the dust
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of my clothes and gradually healed my wounds. I continued
to write. I even wrote and write poetry. I launched
this podcast. I went back Rannie, I made it it.
I read a lot, I talked to God, and I
found my spirituality. I found the strength to get up.
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I'm no longer lost anymore. I forgot to tell you
that I'm also going to start being a basketball coach.
I find my purpose of living again, the true one.
I found my either piece. Even though my life is
in a mess. I launched this podcast to help you
face whatever challenge life is throwing at you right now,
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but above all, so that I can find also the
strengths to achieve the giant that stood in front of me.
I also do this to believe in faith again that
all this will be useful to become more humble, stronger,
and more determinated. I'm doing the same thing Koby did
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after losing NBA Finals and getting back on his feet again.
I had to learn to like myself. I had to
not to care about what other people think or talk
about me. I had to learn believe in myself that
I can be much better than I was before, living
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a true life whose first forty six years were done
in reverse. I started to discover that I had superpowers
and also I was helping people even though I didn't
know who I was. I start being true to myself
and finally I began to see reality as it is
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and not as I would like to be. For the
first time in my life, I am starting to have
joy in being alive and what a blessed person I am.
Bret Pitt said in a speech he gave a few
years ago that what matters is not having achieve our
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goals or having loved the path that we have taken,
But what is important is the people who walk with
this path with you. I agree, and that's why I
dedicate this episode to all the people who were with
me and those who showed up rinsdly. Thank you very
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much to all of them. What I am today is
also due to you who cross my path. Before I
say goodbye, I would like to live with you. Mike
Tyson talking about his life talking about his inner peace.
Thank you all, without exception.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I had the best three years of my life.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, that's that's interesting. To stay there, bro, because you
have millions. I have peace though over the thirty million
dollars for one fight.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Jay Z's line that doesn't mean nothing when you don't
have your peace is the building and your balance. And
before we all even want and you want to give
it to somebody else, you need to sanity, to contributor,
to dictate any part of life, because.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You know God.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I always tell people God, unless you betta, give you
everything you want, see if you can handle it,