Debi and Michael Wish, Founder, Velle Logos-Reveal Secrets of Unlocking Student Confidence & Success
September 11, 2025 • 47 mins
Can the right mentor change a student’s future? Debi and Michael Wish, Founder of Velle Logos, reveal how today’s high school and college students can overcome stress, uncertainty, and tough life choices. Through his powerful mentorship model blending coaching, life skills, and educational strategy, Michael helps students build confidence, discover purpose, and make informed decisions to thrive academically, grow personally, and step boldly into their future - even in today’s challenging world.
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As a parent, we always want our children's to see,
don't we and is stressful to tutor our high schoolers
and college students, especially if it's a topic beyond our scope.
I am thrilled to have Michael Wish, a coach, mentor
and founder of Ville Logos educational company, is deveted to
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mentoring high school and college students toward personal, personal, academic,
and career success. With a background and teaching and coaching,
Michael helps young adults build confidence, develop purpose, and make
inform life decisions. His work blends practical guidance with deep
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understanding of today's challenges at all students face, and He's
developed a unique mentorship that blends coaching and incorporates life
skills with educational strategies. His goal is to have high
school students and college students to thrive academically, grow personally,
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and step confidently into their future. So today we'll be
discussing how to unlock student confidence and success. So let's
welcome Michael Wish, coach, mentor and founder of Villat Logos. Michael,
welcome to my show.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hi Debbie, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Oh you're sure welcome. You well deserved it. I got
to say that, you know, he you know, he is
an awesome coach, and that's something that we're going to
find out a little bit more about him. So what
inspired you to start lay Logos And what does that
name mean?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, I know it's a weird name.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Everybody gives me a hard time about it, but it's
it's the valet part is Latin and it means to
want or to desire, and Logos is Greek for the truth.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And so just having been an academic and spending a.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Lot of time with the Western tradition, I wanted to
lend those two languages together. And then my last name
is Wish, So a desire or a wish for the
truth just seemed really really.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Cool to me.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
So that's what it means and what inspired me to
start it is that I tutored for many years. I
tutored mostly stem subjects, physics and math and coding. But
after working with many of the same students for a
really long period of time, the sessions became less about
the math and the physics and more about life and
how do I study smarter and everybody else seems to
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be putting in less work but getting better grades. You know,
I want to work out. They wanted to improve their
lives in a lot of different ways, and so really
a lot of my tutoring sessions turned into coaching sessions,
and so that's how Blee Logos was born.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's fabulous because no one you know, as a tutor
you've gone out and reached out and think about this
and do this. So good as to you because our
college students are really see and also high school students
completely different.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, So what are.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Your biggest challenges facing high school and college students today?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
And I just kind of what a transition. Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
How are you helping them to overcome these challenges?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I think the biggest challenges that students face today are
that the world is changing so much faster, right, I
mean that the world has been changing faster for many
years now, but really it just feels like everything's on
the accelerator pedal right now, and the future is very
It's always difficult to imagine what the future is going
to be like. But I think for a lot of
young folks, they're seeing their kind of the college promise
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not fail, but certainly not work out for the generation
in front of them like it was supposed to. And
then they're watching all these changes with AI and everything
that's going on in that space, and so there's a
lot of trepidation and a lot of anxiety I think
around identity and what my role is, you know, what
their role is going to be in the world, and
trying to navigate that process. So it's it's a lot
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of times it's less about the school and the classes themselves,
which can be stressful in and of themselves, but a
lot about life and career and trying to get a
whole picture and vision for your identity and who.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
You want to be.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And I don't know, when I was growing up, there
was a book What's the Color of Your Parachute something
like that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
That's a great title I'd read that, Yeah, where you.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Had to figure out what you really wanted to do
in life and in today's world with AI and everything,
you know, it can be very beneficial for people, but
they're allowed to use it. Some collars just don't allow
a classes, but it could be very beneficial if you
use it properly. So with those two type of ideas,
what would you comment on that?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, my first the first
step is to put the AI away for a moment.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
AI is important and we can absolutely use it in
a lot of different processes, but we do have to
be aware of what it's good at and what it's
not good at.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And what it's not good.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
At is doing the hard work that you need to
do as a person to figure out what that vision,
what that identity looks like. And so my solution for
that is to put it away for a moment and
spend some time writing with a piece of paper and
a pencil. I don't care how bad the handwriting is
or how bad the grammar is, but you have to
sit down and you have to do a little bit
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of hard work with yourself, and you have to imagine
and really chart a vision for who you want to be,
not just not just five years or ten years from now,
but twenty years from now, and not just what do
I want to be when I grow up, you know,
for career wise, although that's important obviously, but more like
what kind of person do you want to be?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Are you a pillar of the community, you know, are
you involved in a religious organization?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Are you married, you have kids?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
That's really hard to do for young folks because it
just seems so far away. It's just an infinite It's
an infinite number.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Of years away.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I'll never be that old, but you know, it reminds
me of a story where I had a neighbor who
invited me over for a board game night, and it
was a really compli gated board game, and he was
he was an articulate guy. He could communicate well, but
he kept telling me about how the game worked and
the pieces, and the first question that I really needed
to answer.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
To was, Buddy, what's the goal?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
What is the end state? How do I win? And
that's how we actually learn.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
We start at the end and we envision what that
looks like, and then we backtrack and figure out how
we get there and learn strategies and those sorts of things.
So that's what I ask students to do we young
folks to do. You don't have to be a student,
is you have to set that initial long term vision
for yourself and identity and then we can backtrack and
we can find a system to help you get there.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and with my clients, you know, I call it
wonder storming. So what do you want your end goal
to be? And but you are creating this big, huge
picture for yourself. You know, I helped with release and
health and mindset, So it's like, what do you want
to look like? What do you want to how do
you want to celebrate when you finally get to that goal?
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What do you want to Who are the people that
you want with with you? And then I have like
little outline things for them to you know, think about,
to structure some ideas regarding you know, mindset and everything else,
which are some things that they fill out as well
as you know, things that kind of bother them in
the past. So they nearly need to really reshape their
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core beliefs and also you know, broaden them and up
to different possibilities. So that's what I do with my
wonder storm which is, you know, very similar to what
you're doing you're you're creating that final picture and you're
reverse engineering, so you can create these steps to get there.
And you know, with life things kind of change up,
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but they always know what their final picture is going
to be there, and that's the whole point, because you know,
some people says montrust, don't worry, I can asper you know,
things like that don't work. But I have people do
a vision board and visual course or something they can
look at. Actually they're visually inclined because I'm sure you
know here toutor and a teacher and a coach. You know,
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everyone learns in a different style, whether it's visual, auditory,
or some people are just you know, I'm I'm more
like a visual person that auditory, and so when it
comes to my clients, I figure out what's going on
with them as well, and I'm sure you do the
same for your students.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I do, yeah, I mean, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
The data actually shows that we can all learn in
all of those modalities just as equally well. But we
do tend to have preferences, right, I mean, we like
to watch movies most of us, rather than read, although
I'm opposite, I like to read a lot. You can
learn in all four And I mentioned that because sometimes
we can convince ourselves that we can't learn in.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Some of those domains when we're actually capable.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And I don't want anyone to sell themselves short, but
you're one hundred percent right there. We all have preferences.
Some people love to listen to podcasts, other folks love
to read a book. And so essentially, what that vision
board is, it's the ultimate goal. It's you've you put
into the real physical world what you're imagining that future
to be, and then it serves as a constant reminder
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to you. So that's exactly that's exactly right. It's a
really great thing to do.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, and that's why I have my clients too. Now
you might have mentioned a little bit of this already,
but can you walk us through your mentorship process and
how do you support the students practically?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yeah, So I think practically is the most is the
imperative word of that sentence, because if you can't put
it into practice, then it's maybe nice fun motivation, but
it doesn't actually help. So after we get done with
the first step that I call it the self authoring,
where we sit down and write about your future and
the kids don't always love that step, but we get
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through it. We do the hard part, which is to
identify what are the differences? Right, So you know, I
often might get a young person this is what they
want to be wildly rich when they are old. Of
course we all want to be maybe maybe not everybody.
But we dig into why. We find out why do
you want to be wildly rich? And it turns oh,
they really want to travel, or oh they really want
to give it away, right, they want to be very charitable,
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And so we get into those fund bits and then
we figure out, okay, well where are you today?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Okay, you're not giving today?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
And now I'll ask them why and the answer is well,
I don't have that much money. I say, okay, but
we could give a dollar a week. And my point
here is that it doesn't matter if you're a millionaire
and you're giving away thousands of dollars or if you're
kind of making it buy but you're giving away what
you can.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
That's the kind of person you want to be.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You're not going to become a millionaire and just magically
become the kind of person that gives it away. And
so the idea is that when you're young. We can
implement those habits and those lifestyles and those values now,
even in really small ways, so that in ten, fifteen,
twenty years we don't have to try to do a
bunch of work on ourselves to catch up.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And we do that by establishing habits.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
And where I use James Clear's atomic habits model is wonderful.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It is.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
The problem with Jane and like probably one of the
best books ever written.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
But one of the problems with James Clear's book is
he doesn't tell you what habits you should try to implement.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It's a beautiful system for learning how to implement good
habits and kicking bad habits, but it doesn't say which
ones you should do. So I did a lot of research,
digging through the literature, and I found what I call
keystone habits. These are the four or five habits that
everyone should absolutely So I always start with those before
I let the students, so they, you know, look at
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their own path and pick their own and so you know,
for me, those are sleep. Getting the same bedtime every
night is actually just as important as the amount of
sleep you get.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yes, waking up every.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Morning and writing down three priorities, writing down three gratitudes
before you go to before you go to sleep, and
then a little bit of a mindfulness practice and a
little bit of an exercise habit.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Those four right there.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
If you were to just implement a small version of those,
difference of who you are now and who you'll be
in a year, five years, ten years is going to
be enormous. So we start with those keystone habits, and
then I allow them to work on what I call
the gap habits, the things that they want to do,
that they want to invent in order to get from.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Where they are to where that vision is.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So we work on that step by step with James
Clear's system, and then at the end we reinforce it
by I asked them to then turn around and teach, coach,
mentor others, because it turns out we are more than
happy to let ourselves down. Right you start a diet
and ah, who cares, I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Just have the donut. But we really don't like to
let other people down.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
And so if I place someone in a responsibility, either
as an accountability team or even hey, you're in charge
of these three four people, now you feel like you
have to set the example and you really don't want
to let those folks down. And so I find a
lot more success with that framework. So that's the short
and practical version of how we get from start to
finish get that dream transformation as.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
A wonderful framework. A lot of those concepts are things
I have, they do. Gratitude is just so people I
guess this. We get older, kids are some more open
to things, and as adults, it's kind of like we
just shut that off somehow, and because things that have
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in our life and people said, no, whatever, whatever the
situation is in someone's life. But gratitude is so important
because even I say to people, even the smallest gratitudes
add up like stands an hour class, and when they
add up, it's going to just uplift your emotional energy
and you're feeling for joy and happiness and that's going
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to elevate you vibrationally to a have your state and
you're going to have more energy enthusiasm to do things
for others and help people out, like you're saying, and
you know, it's wonderful that you're teaching your students to
tutor others as well, because not only that, you know,
showing them confidence and the subject matter thing now, but
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also it shows them you know, I can do this
and improving I can do that's right. Yeah, And as
with then the purpose that you want to do, they're
just kind of like building that road.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, it comes with three huge benefits.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Number one is that by teaching others, there's a learning
method where you teach other people, and by teaching other
people you learn it better yourself.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So by teaching other people the.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
System, you end up becoming really good at the system,
which is obviously a win win. But then also two,
it really it helps people communicate better, It helps them
become more articulate, it helps them become more social, and
we've seen from COVID that there's just been some social
struggles whether it's communication or communication across the sexes. So
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it just helps you get better working with people, which
is so important. And then I think three, it helps
it helps people become better leaders. If you want to
be you're going to be a manager, if you're gonna
be charge of anything, if you're gonna if you're going
to be in a family, then you have to learn
how to how to lead folks. And you know, I
think it starts with the servant leadership mindset of serving
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others first, and so I think it's nothing but a
win win to do that. But it is challenging for
some folks. You know, it's not an easy thing to
step in and try to take responsibility for someone else.
That's actually probably one of the hardest things to do.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And when it comes to leadership. And another great author
is Stephen Coobe. Oh absolutely so, and he had his
son Sean Kobe. It's more for kids. The book. The
book is so cute. Yeah, yeah, But my whole point is,
you know, I always recommend those books so they can,
you know, help their kids start doing that themselves. And
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you know, they can be in leadership roles whether they're
you know, I know, scouting may might not be as
popular as it used to be, but those leadership roles
are really important, whether it's on beating the debate team,
whether it's being on a sports team. But yes, scouting
is another great alternative that was in the past and
hopefully it'll come back better than it was in the past.
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And my whole point is is that I need to
learn how to do leadership. Is that something that is innate?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, I mean, certainly people have some innate qualities that
make it a little bit easier. So it is certainly.
It certainly makes the transition into leadership easier if you're
a slight extrovert because you're already kind of prone to
working with people. Certainly if you have if you're a
little bit more articulate, say on the outset. But yes,
like all of those skills can be can be learned,
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and I think the most important thing from a.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Mindset point of view. You spoke about mindset.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
That's something that you had to do in order to
lose the weight and start running.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's something that everyone has to do.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And one of the most important reframings that I think
anybody can employ in their life is that everything that
is going to make.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
You better is going to be difficult.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
There's nothing that is going to make you better that's easy.
So if you're experiencing hardship and you're trying to lead
in you're struggling, or you're trying to learn and you're struggling,
or you're trying to run and you're struggling, I would
encourage everyone to try and I'm not claiming this is easy,
but to try to reframe that as well. If i'm struggling,
then I'm learning, and if I'm learning that I'm growing.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And usually if you.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Can reframe it that way, it makes it a little
bit easier to withstand and push through to the next level.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And really, when it comes to perspective, the twist the
we're difficult, well, you know, as something new that I
haven't done before, and I don't know until I.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Do it, that's right, Yeah, yeah, I have. I have
two values on that point that I really push hard.
And the first is to be aggressively curious. And that
applies not just in the classroom but in your life.
You know, I wonder if I could run, okay, be
aggressively curious about it, and if it's really hard, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Just go find out.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Go find out what you're made of, Go find out
how hard it actually is. And a lot of times
people really surprise themselves if they're aggressively curious. Suddenly something
that they thought was just terrifying and hard, you go,
you know what, that wasn't so bad, and you try
it again, and you try it again.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And then the other value is to experiment joyfully.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And I think a lot of people this is kind
of another really goes along the lines of the reframing
I talked about earlier. But if you can experiment joyfully,
then the emotions that are entangled with failure tend to
be much lighter. So if I go out and I
go for a run and I try to run a
mile and I don't make it, I want to treat
that like a little experiment. And so what I found
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out is I couldn't run a mile today, like for
whatever reason, today, I couldn't run a mile, But maybe
I could run one on Friday, or maybe.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I could run one next month.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
And so if you treat all these little actions, these
little things like experiments, then when you fail, because you're
going to fail it's just an inevitable then it's not
a failure, it's a it's data.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's all okay.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
On that Thursday, on that route, after being sore and
not getting much sleep, it turns out I couldn't run
a mile that day, and that's okay. And I think instead,
a lot of folks make the mistake of tying that
failure up with their identity or associating it with their capability,
and that's really destructive.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's a learning.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Moment, that's right.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, and so for me, I was always told I
was I can never run. I actually had actually had
a problem with my feeling painful. I had to have
core zone instections and all this other stuff, and quite
that was painful. But you know, when I realized after
changing the way I ate in thecilitation I took, I
was like, not only am I getting more energy? Oh,
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it's not hurting.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So much, right? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I eased on a treadmill and I replaced forty eight
to fifty minutes walking on trimo with running over time.
And then I asked my friend. You know, I told
her I was doing she was a runner, shell us,
not that you can come running out with. I'm like okay,
And I started doing that. And then after a while,
I you know, we did seven miles. I hit a
wall and she goes, you you finally hit a wall,
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like okay, but I can tell you I'm telling this
story for reason. And then later she asked me to
do a half marathon. I looked at her, went, I mean,
she says, a't math, how did you think? I'm like, okay,
So I did it, and I got so excited with
that stampede.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Actually, oh no, and.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I finished before her and she said, she said, you
do so fantastic, congratulations And I said, that's when the
half marathon. You really don't know until you do it.
And I run, you know, normally, I used to run
five to six miles a day, about five days, four
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to five days a week. I broke my foot and
then I had to go to learning moment again. I'm like, yeah,
but I got through that, you know. I fell a
few times and had some injuries, but I got through
it and after running again. So no matter what there
might be obstacles in your way, whether it's educational obstacles,
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whether it's physical obstacles, or whether it's and what's going
on with relationships, you can always navigate through those boots.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I found That's why one of my keystone habits not mine.
One of the what the literature says is important is
mindfulness and being aware of your thoughts, because it's unavoidable
to have bad thoughts, it's unavoidable to get down on yourself,
it's unavoidable to experience intense emotions, especially in difficult times.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But I find that a lot of folks aren't aware,
they're not fully aware of what they're thinking most of
the time.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
And the problem with that is if what you're thinking
is negative constantly, then you're in a trap. It's gonna
affect your mood, it's gonnaffect your sleep, it's gonn affect
your stress levels. And so just a simple mindfulness practice,
take one minute a day and try to pay attention
to your breath. Try to feel what it's like to
lose focus in seconds, right, because you can't. You can't
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not think for a whole minute. You have this crazy
clown in your head that's just constantly saying.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Idiotic things to you.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
And what you realize is in those down moments that
you're caught in this trap of catastrophizing. Well, I broke
my foot, so I won't get back and running next
week and then I won't run for a year and
I'll never run again. And you know, and you just
make these ridiculous leaps. You will still do that. But
if you're aware that you'll that you do that, you'll
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catch yourself and you go, oh, I'm going to stop.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm gonna stop back the train of thought. And that's
what that's a superpower.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, if we run five percent conscious brain, the subconscious
runs thin of our thoughts and so what is it
kind of splashes all these things into your brain, and yeah,
learn to control that too. I mean on average, men,
I guess there are sixty thousand, sixty thousand thoughts a day.
Women are eight thousand thoughts a day. It's a really
(27:13):
large my number that people have no idea. But you
can quiet down those thoughts by deep diaphragmic breathing and
I you know, I have box breathing, and there's other
breathings that you can do, alternate nasal breathing. And another
thing that I do is I've been trained with acupressure
and that's really helped quite a bit because I just
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used it with my breathing and I meditate with the
acupressure and I just feel so much better and it's
melting my way, the stress out of my neck. So
those are signs that your stress when you have a
really tense neck and you know your jaw is tense,
and because it's not meant to be that way, you
need to be able to open your mouth at that
without it being so tense and feel better about yourself.
(27:58):
So there's many different techniques for that, and the main
idea is recognizing the science of tension, recognize of you know,
upset stomach, recognizing the signs of fatigue, and you know,
and a lot of people don't pay attention. They just
kind of go go go, and you can't do things
more in a flow rather than go go go. Once
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you learn it's a maintain that time. Time will pass,
but you'll find out you're more productive than you've ever been.
So that's all I can say. So, now, do you
have an success story of a student whose life changed
through your guidance?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, of course. Yeah. So I worked with the young
lady years a couple of a couple of years ago,
and she was a preclculus, which is a notoriously difficult
bath subject because kids don't feel like it applies to anything.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Ever, there's some truth to that.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
And she was very stressed, and I was working with
her and one day I could tell she was not
paying attention. Right we were halfway through, I asked her
a question, she answered something totally different. She wasn't present,
So I said, hey, let's set the math aside and
let's just chat for a moment. And I asked her
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all the things that she was doing. So this is
a very smart young lady, a very accomplished She's at
a private school. Like when I was that age, my
life was a mess, right, So this.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
This young person is light years ahead of me at
that age.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
But she was competing to try to get into an
Ivy League school, and their family had hired a mentor
to help her do all the things that you need
to do to compete, and I mean, it's so it's
so difficult. So you know, she had signed up for everything,
and I asked her to go through the list of
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all the activities and extracurriculars that she was in and
it was just it was a mountain. And one of
the things that she mentioned was a study hall program
that she was in charge of facilitating. So she was
sitting in a classroom from like eight to eleven PM,
three times a week to just run a study hall.
And in her mind, and I think in the mentor's mind,
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that this was really great because it was two birds
one stone. I can be in this room and get
credit for having run this program, and then I could
also study at the same time.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And the problem was is that she wasn't able to
study there.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
She was constantly being interrupted kids asking where a vending
machine was or bathroom or a kid's asking for help,
because she was very smart, and honestly, sometimes she just
needed to go to bed on time, and having to
stay up that.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Late was interfering with that.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
And the big problem that she was suffering from wasn't
even that, It was the fact that she was not
She wasn't confident enough to tell her folks and her
mentor that this was too much and she was having
you know, sometimes young folks especially have a hard time
being disagreeable. And obviously her parents had spent good money
(30:58):
on this mentor and on this private school she was in,
and so she was just under this enormous pressure. So
we worked on a mindfulness practice, and we worked a
little bit on developing some communication methods and some confidence
for her to be able to go to her folks
and mentor and explain why this was probably not the
most the best activity for her to be involved in
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and it wasn't going to change whether she got into
an Ivy League school or not. So it took a
couple of weeks and we worked on it, and she
was able to bring it up and they immediately agreed
with her. Because she's articulate and smart, and it made
her case well, But for me and for her, it
was more about the win of having the confidence to
be able to go to her parents and go to
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this mentor and explain something that made her very uncomfortable,
you know, doing was disagreeing with these folks that she
loved and wanted the best for her. But we're still
in kind of positions of authority, and so you know,
I hope she did get into a great school, and
you know, I haven't worked with her in a while now,
but hopefully she's doing wonderful things and when she needs
(32:04):
to be, she's being a little bit more disagreeable, you know.
So that was that's that's the that's the success story
that comes to mind almost every time when someone asks
me that, because she she just really transformed over the
year that I worked with her. It was really great.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well, yeah, that's fantastic. But you know, she had to
do some kind of project, I guess, and that's what
that project was, the study hall, and maybe they could
have cut back some of the hours that you want
to be cloudy minded and be able to you know,
function better and be happier, you know, right, So you know,
what girls are people pleasers?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yes, yes, I do more work with young girls on
the disagreeable part than boys.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Boys seem to.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Be ready to fight and argue at everything, So.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
So I got to get them to calm down a
little bit, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, but you know, girls tend to be people pleasers.
But you know it doesn't hurt speak up and and
and say it in a positive way so that they
can really see, oh, this is yeah that personally needs
to do. Right. Yeah, So, now, how can parents, educators,
our mentors support the next generation more efficiently?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Oh, more efficiently, I would say, counterintuitively.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Let them figure it out, and that can be that
can be really difficult. I I have seen a lot
of students they're they're so overhelped and they're you know,
their folks are involved, which is wonderful. But at the
end of the day, you you're not going to grow
up unless you unless you go out on your own
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a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
And so.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think probably one of the best things that we
can do is let kids make their own mistakes. Guide
them and coach them and warn them, of course, but
let them spread out, let them go it alone a
little bit, and let them fall and then when they
need they can them back and they get that help
and that guidance and may go back out again and uh,
you know, let them let them rough and tumble a
(34:05):
little bit. Now, it's not exactly maybe more efficient, it
doesn't seem efficient, but in a long run, it's an
efficiency game.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
So in the short run, I'm very guilty of this.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I have a wonderful eight year old little girl who
she's the best, and but I have a hard time.
I want to do things for her right because we're
in a hurry, and I'm like, I'll just wash the
dish for you because i'll do it better and i'll
do it faster, you know, but I have to let
her do it.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
And I think that's that's a common theme. In the
short run, yes, I'll do it faster and better, but
in the long run, she's never going to learn how
to wash her own dishes. And I know that might
be a silly example, but I see that over and
over and over again, so I think it's really important.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, and you know, kids are afraid of me. Something
shouldn't be. It's okay to think it's a learning moment.
You grow from it, and you may find a better
solution when you.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Make my stick.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But who was it Thomas Edison that forever to create
a light bulb?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Right, yeah, you found two thousand ways to not make
a light bulb, I think.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Is exactly exactly. So thank you for coming up a
button fact. But you know, I'm not perfect. I don't know.
I'm sure you're not perfect. And it's just you need
to work at things, and you need to and I
mean my work at things is just let things happen
that may not be agreeable to people, because in deep
(35:32):
outside you got to say something right and and but
you know, then get over it.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah yeah, let it go. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Are too short, you know, and things are not going
to always happen the way you wish it would happen.
But what's fine A really good solution if everyone's open
to it. And that's the thing. People need to be
open to it, and people need to understand where someone's
coming from. Maybe I understand the perspective. They can't just
(36:02):
decide for people, you're gregeous, like we can't decide for
our kids. They got to really want to have a
certain occupation.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's there's a balance obviously, as
a parent, you are a little bit hopefully a little
bit wiser, and you've been around and you know you
want to guide them and warn them, and you should.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
They have a responsibility to do that.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
And uh, you know, at the end of the day,
these are these are human beings and they have to
chart their own course. That's why I call my course
the self architect course, because you are you have to.
Everyone creates their own, their own destiny and their own vision.
So I think it's really important to let them do that.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yes, a little bit early for the offer, but why
don't we talk about it since you mentioned it?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've built I'm building
a built a free community so that everybody's welcome to join.
But for any of the clients that I get, you know,
that join the community from from your show here, I'm
more than welcome to work with them for free for them,
so free coaching for a month, and you know, we'll
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work through work through this framework. Sometimes I get folks
that are way ahead and they want to jump right
to habits and don't be mad at me. I'm going
to make you start over. You know, we go from
from the very beginning. We try to figure out who
you are who you want to be. We do the
hard work of figuring out what the difference is, and
sometimes that can be painful. We work on the keystone habits.
(37:30):
We help you build your gap habits, so those those
that you want to build, and then we figure out
how to implement them in your life. We do use
a little bit of AI to help us with that,
to come up with ideas and brainstorm different ways to
fit those things in because it's just a great tool.
And then you know, I'm gonna ask you to teach,
coach and mentor others to do the same.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah. So there's a lot of inter action in your community,
which is really important.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
So I will for your viewers, A'll warn you we
just switched platforms.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yeah, so there there is a lot of action, but.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We're migrating over. This platform is a little bit easier
for folks to find, I think, and a little bit
simpler for people to use. And I want it to
be simple and I want it to be so you'll
you'll see folks will start flooding in here shortly.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So okay, well, so you can join his free community.
I guess the first five will get that one month coaching.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
That's right, yep. And we meet once a week and.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
After that because I don't know when they're going to
come in as a flow. But you go to w
W W dot school. But it's spelt s k O
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Speaker 4 (38:47):
That's right. Yep.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, that's your own life.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
That is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Michael, Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That's a wonderful offer. And you can be brightening so
many souls out there, many music life. So will you
like to be a guest again?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
I would love to be a guest again, of.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Course, fantastic. So please stick around for closing remarks. You'll
have some time to say some more if you want, Okay, great, Yeah,
And so remember I do revialize people's lives in many
different areas at half a mindset. I start with their
gut and I also start with mindset because that's the
gut brain connection. There's also a heart brain connection as
(39:27):
well that I help people with too. But I also
help with bone and joint blood sugarup, brain and heart,
as well as community hormones and anxiety obviously, and also
I do help people with athletes due to my own
you know, experience, and I guide them to clean toxic
refears and high quantity essential nutrient products that will reduce symptoms.
(39:49):
They'll feel better if they need to release weight. They
might be releasing weight, but it's definitely going to uplift
their mood. With my mindset coaching, I help them release stress,
emotions and techniques in the past and guide them and
reshaping their core beliefs because they have to do it themselves.
You might be enhanced now with my health optimization and
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on the same site, I have my programs Take your
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Speaker 5 (45:51):
Well, I just want to say how much I appreciate
you having me on and you've got a really great
show here, and I love your approach and how you're
trying to help folks holistically starting with minds, mind and body.
I think that's wonderful so that's something I'm trying to
emulate in my own program is it's not just about
any one thing, and it's really hard and can be
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very overwhelming when you're trying to fix your entire life
at once. And so whether you're starting in the physical
or the mental the spiritual space, think the most important
thing is to take the first step and start making progress.
And remember that even a one percent change over the
course of a year is a thirty seven times improvement,
So just make those little steps each day.
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Mindset is a key to lasting change. And as I
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sometimes good, sometimes bad. That's why it's crucial to have
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those emotions like fear, frustration, and doubt because all they're
going to do is slow you down and get you
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As a parent, we always want our children's to see,
don't we and is stressful to tutor our high schoolers
and college students, especially if it's a topic beyond our scope.
I am thrilled to have Michael Wish, a coach, mentor
and founder of Ville Logos educational company, is deveted to
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and step confidently into their future. So today we'll be
discussing how to unlock student confidence and success. So let's
welcome Michael Wish, coach, mentor and founder of Villat Logos. Michael,
welcome to my show.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Hi Debbie, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Oh you're sure welcome. You well deserved it. I got
to say that, you know, he you know, he is
an awesome coach, and that's something that we're going to
find out a little bit more about him. So what
inspired you to start lay Logos And what does that
name mean?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, I know it's a weird name.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Everybody gives me a hard time about it, but it's
it's the valet part is Latin and it means to
want or to desire, and Logos is Greek for the truth.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And so just having been an academic and spending a.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Lot of time with the Western tradition, I wanted to
lend those two languages together. And then my last name
is Wish, So a desire or a wish for the
truth just seemed really really.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Cool to me.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
So that's what it means and what inspired me to
start it is that I tutored for many years. I
tutored mostly stem subjects, physics and math and coding. But
after working with many of the same students for a
really long period of time, the sessions became less about
the math and the physics and more about life and
how do I study smarter and everybody else seems to
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be putting in less work but getting better grades. You know,
I want to work out. They wanted to improve their
lives in a lot of different ways, and so really
a lot of my tutoring sessions turned into coaching sessions,
and so that's how Blee Logos was born.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's fabulous because no one you know, as a tutor
you've gone out and reached out and think about this
and do this. So good as to you because our
college students are really see and also high school students
completely different.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, So what are.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Your biggest challenges facing high school and college students today?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
And I just kind of what a transition. Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
How are you helping them to overcome these challenges?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I think the biggest challenges that students face today are
that the world is changing so much faster, right, I
mean that the world has been changing faster for many
years now, but really it just feels like everything's on
the accelerator pedal right now, and the future is very
It's always difficult to imagine what the future is going
to be like. But I think for a lot of
young folks, they're seeing their kind of the college promise
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not fail, but certainly not work out for the generation
in front of them like it was supposed to. And
then they're watching all these changes with AI and everything
that's going on in that space, and so there's a
lot of trepidation and a lot of anxiety I think
around identity and what my role is, you know, what
their role is going to be in the world, and
trying to navigate that process. So it's it's a lot
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of times it's less about the school and the classes themselves,
which can be stressful in and of themselves, but a
lot about life and career and trying to get a
whole picture and vision for your identity and who.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
You want to be.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And I don't know, when I was growing up, there
was a book What's the Color of Your Parachute something
like that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
That's a great title I'd read that, Yeah, where you.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Had to figure out what you really wanted to do
in life and in today's world with AI and everything,
you know, it can be very beneficial for people, but
they're allowed to use it. Some collars just don't allow
a classes, but it could be very beneficial if you
use it properly. So with those two type of ideas,
what would you comment on that?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, my first the first
step is to put the AI away for a moment.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
AI is important and we can absolutely use it in
a lot of different processes, but we do have to
be aware of what it's good at and what it's
not good at.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And what it's not good.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
At is doing the hard work that you need to
do as a person to figure out what that vision,
what that identity looks like. And so my solution for
that is to put it away for a moment and
spend some time writing with a piece of paper and
a pencil. I don't care how bad the handwriting is
or how bad the grammar is, but you have to
sit down and you have to do a little bit
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of hard work with yourself, and you have to imagine
and really chart a vision for who you want to be,
not just not just five years or ten years from now,
but twenty years from now, and not just what do
I want to be when I grow up, you know,
for career wise, although that's important obviously, but more like
what kind of person do you want to be?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Are you a pillar of the community, you know, are
you involved in a religious organization?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Are you married, you have kids?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
That's really hard to do for young folks because it
just seems so far away. It's just an infinite It's
an infinite number.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Of years away.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I'll never be that old, but you know, it reminds
me of a story where I had a neighbor who
invited me over for a board game night, and it
was a really compli gated board game, and he was
he was an articulate guy. He could communicate well, but
he kept telling me about how the game worked and
the pieces, and the first question that I really needed
to answer.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
To was, Buddy, what's the goal?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
What is the end state? How do I win? And
that's how we actually learn.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
We start at the end and we envision what that
looks like, and then we backtrack and figure out how
we get there and learn strategies and those sorts of things.
So that's what I ask students to do we young
folks to do. You don't have to be a student,
is you have to set that initial long term vision
for yourself and identity and then we can backtrack and
we can find a system to help you get there.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and with my clients, you know, I call it
wonder storming. So what do you want your end goal
to be? And but you are creating this big, huge
picture for yourself. You know, I helped with release and
health and mindset, So it's like, what do you want
to look like? What do you want to how do
you want to celebrate when you finally get to that goal?
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What do you want to Who are the people that
you want with with you? And then I have like
little outline things for them to you know, think about,
to structure some ideas regarding you know, mindset and everything else,
which are some things that they fill out as well
as you know, things that kind of bother them in
the past. So they nearly need to really reshape their
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core beliefs and also you know, broaden them and up
to different possibilities. So that's what I do with my
wonder storm which is, you know, very similar to what
you're doing you're you're creating that final picture and you're
reverse engineering, so you can create these steps to get there.
And you know, with life things kind of change up,
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but they always know what their final picture is going
to be there, and that's the whole point, because you know,
some people says montrust, don't worry, I can asper you know,
things like that don't work. But I have people do
a vision board and visual course or something they can
look at. Actually they're visually inclined because I'm sure you
know here toutor and a teacher and a coach. You know,
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everyone learns in a different style, whether it's visual, auditory,
or some people are just you know, I'm I'm more
like a visual person that auditory, and so when it
comes to my clients, I figure out what's going on
with them as well, and I'm sure you do the
same for your students.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I do, yeah, I mean, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
The data actually shows that we can all learn in
all of those modalities just as equally well. But we
do tend to have preferences, right, I mean, we like
to watch movies most of us, rather than read, although
I'm opposite, I like to read a lot. You can
learn in all four And I mentioned that because sometimes
we can convince ourselves that we can't learn in.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Some of those domains when we're actually capable.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And I don't want anyone to sell themselves short, but
you're one hundred percent right there. We all have preferences.
Some people love to listen to podcasts, other folks love
to read a book. And so essentially, what that vision
board is, it's the ultimate goal. It's you've you put
into the real physical world what you're imagining that future
to be, and then it serves as a constant reminder
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to you. So that's exactly that's exactly right. It's a
really great thing to do.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, and that's why I have my clients too. Now
you might have mentioned a little bit of this already,
but can you walk us through your mentorship process and
how do you support the students practically?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yeah, So I think practically is the most is the
imperative word of that sentence, because if you can't put
it into practice, then it's maybe nice fun motivation, but
it doesn't actually help. So after we get done with
the first step that I call it the self authoring,
where we sit down and write about your future and
the kids don't always love that step, but we get
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through it. We do the hard part, which is to
identify what are the differences? Right, So you know, I
often might get a young person this is what they
want to be wildly rich when they are old. Of
course we all want to be maybe maybe not everybody.
But we dig into why. We find out why do
you want to be wildly rich? And it turns oh,
they really want to travel, or oh they really want
to give it away, right, they want to be very charitable,
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And so we get into those fund bits and then
we figure out, okay, well where are you today?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Okay, you're not giving today?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
And now I'll ask them why and the answer is well,
I don't have that much money. I say, okay, but
we could give a dollar a week. And my point
here is that it doesn't matter if you're a millionaire
and you're giving away thousands of dollars or if you're
kind of making it buy but you're giving away what
you can.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
That's the kind of person you want to be.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
You're not going to become a millionaire and just magically
become the kind of person that gives it away. And
so the idea is that when you're young. We can
implement those habits and those lifestyles and those values now,
even in really small ways, so that in ten, fifteen,
twenty years we don't have to try to do a
bunch of work on ourselves to catch up.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And we do that by establishing habits.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
And where I use James Clear's atomic habits model is wonderful.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It is.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
The problem with Jane and like probably one of the
best books ever written.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
But one of the problems with James Clear's book is
he doesn't tell you what habits you should try to implement.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
It's a beautiful system for learning how to implement good
habits and kicking bad habits, but it doesn't say which
ones you should do. So I did a lot of research,
digging through the literature, and I found what I call
keystone habits. These are the four or five habits that
everyone should absolutely So I always start with those before
I let the students, so they, you know, look at
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their own path and pick their own and so you know,
for me, those are sleep. Getting the same bedtime every
night is actually just as important as the amount of
sleep you get.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yes, waking up every.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Morning and writing down three priorities, writing down three gratitudes
before you go to before you go to sleep, and
then a little bit of a mindfulness practice and a
little bit of an exercise habit.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Those four right there.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
If you were to just implement a small version of those,
difference of who you are now and who you'll be
in a year, five years, ten years is going to
be enormous. So we start with those keystone habits, and
then I allow them to work on what I call
the gap habits, the things that they want to do,
that they want to invent in order to get from.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Where they are to where that vision is.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
So we work on that step by step with James
Clear's system, and then at the end we reinforce it
by I asked them to then turn around and teach, coach,
mentor others, because it turns out we are more than
happy to let ourselves down. Right you start a diet
and ah, who cares, I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Just have the donut. But we really don't like to
let other people down.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
And so if I place someone in a responsibility, either
as an accountability team or even hey, you're in charge
of these three four people, now you feel like you
have to set the example and you really don't want
to let those folks down. And so I find a
lot more success with that framework. So that's the short
and practical version of how we get from start to
finish get that dream transformation as.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
A wonderful framework. A lot of those concepts are things
I have, they do. Gratitude is just so people I
guess this. We get older, kids are some more open
to things, and as adults, it's kind of like we
just shut that off somehow, and because things that have
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in our life and people said, no, whatever, whatever the
situation is in someone's life. But gratitude is so important
because even I say to people, even the smallest gratitudes
add up like stands an hour class, and when they
add up, it's going to just uplift your emotional energy
and you're feeling for joy and happiness and that's going
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to elevate you vibrationally to a have your state and
you're going to have more energy enthusiasm to do things
for others and help people out, like you're saying, and
you know, it's wonderful that you're teaching your students to
tutor others as well, because not only that, you know,
showing them confidence and the subject matter thing now, but
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also it shows them you know, I can do this
and improving I can do that's right. Yeah, And as
with then the purpose that you want to do, they're
just kind of like building that road.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, it comes with three huge benefits.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Number one is that by teaching others, there's a learning
method where you teach other people, and by teaching other
people you learn it better yourself.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So by teaching other people the.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
System, you end up becoming really good at the system,
which is obviously a win win. But then also two,
it really it helps people communicate better, It helps them
become more articulate, it helps them become more social, and
we've seen from COVID that there's just been some social
struggles whether it's communication or communication across the sexes. So
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it just helps you get better working with people, which
is so important. And then I think three, it helps
it helps people become better leaders. If you want to
be you're going to be a manager, if you're gonna
be charge of anything, if you're gonna if you're going
to be in a family, then you have to learn
how to how to lead folks. And you know, I
think it starts with the servant leadership mindset of serving
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others first, and so I think it's nothing but a
win win to do that. But it is challenging for
some folks. You know, it's not an easy thing to
step in and try to take responsibility for someone else.
That's actually probably one of the hardest things to do.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And when it comes to leadership. And another great author
is Stephen Coobe. Oh absolutely so, and he had his
son Sean Kobe. It's more for kids. The book. The
book is so cute. Yeah, yeah, But my whole point is,
you know, I always recommend those books so they can,
you know, help their kids start doing that themselves. And
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you know, they can be in leadership roles whether they're
you know, I know, scouting may might not be as
popular as it used to be, but those leadership roles
are really important, whether it's on beating the debate team,
whether it's being on a sports team. But yes, scouting
is another great alternative that was in the past and
hopefully it'll come back better than it was in the past.
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And my whole point is is that I need to
learn how to do leadership. Is that something that is innate?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, I mean, certainly people have some innate qualities that
make it a little bit easier. So it is certainly.
It certainly makes the transition into leadership easier if you're
a slight extrovert because you're already kind of prone to
working with people. Certainly if you have if you're a
little bit more articulate, say on the outset. But yes,
like all of those skills can be can be learned,
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and I think the most important thing from a.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Mindset point of view. You spoke about mindset.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
That's something that you had to do in order to
lose the weight and start running.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's something that everyone has to do.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And one of the most important reframings that I think
anybody can employ in their life is that everything that
is going to make.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
You better is going to be difficult.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
There's nothing that is going to make you better that's easy.
So if you're experiencing hardship and you're trying to lead
in you're struggling, or you're trying to learn and you're struggling,
or you're trying to run and you're struggling, I would
encourage everyone to try and I'm not claiming this is easy,
but to try to reframe that as well. If i'm struggling,
then I'm learning, and if I'm learning that I'm growing.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And usually if you.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Can reframe it that way, it makes it a little
bit easier to withstand and push through to the next level.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And really, when it comes to perspective, the twist the
we're difficult, well, you know, as something new that I
haven't done before, and I don't know until I.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Do it, that's right, Yeah, yeah, I have. I have
two values on that point that I really push hard.
And the first is to be aggressively curious. And that
applies not just in the classroom but in your life.
You know, I wonder if I could run, okay, be
aggressively curious about it, and if it's really hard, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Just go find out.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Go find out what you're made of, Go find out
how hard it actually is. And a lot of times
people really surprise themselves if they're aggressively curious. Suddenly something
that they thought was just terrifying and hard, you go,
you know what, that wasn't so bad, and you try
it again, and you try it again.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And then the other value is to experiment joyfully.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And I think a lot of people this is kind
of another really goes along the lines of the reframing
I talked about earlier. But if you can experiment joyfully,
then the emotions that are entangled with failure tend to
be much lighter. So if I go out and I
go for a run and I try to run a
mile and I don't make it, I want to treat
that like a little experiment. And so what I found
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out is I couldn't run a mile today, like for
whatever reason, today, I couldn't run a mile, But maybe
I could run one on Friday, or maybe.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I could run one next month.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
And so if you treat all these little actions, these
little things like experiments, then when you fail, because you're
going to fail it's just an inevitable then it's not
a failure, it's a it's data.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's all okay.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
On that Thursday, on that route, after being sore and
not getting much sleep, it turns out I couldn't run
a mile that day, and that's okay. And I think instead,
a lot of folks make the mistake of tying that
failure up with their identity or associating it with their capability,
and that's really destructive.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's a learning.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Moment, that's right.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, and so for me, I was always told I
was I can never run. I actually had actually had
a problem with my feeling painful. I had to have
core zone instections and all this other stuff, and quite
that was painful. But you know, when I realized after
changing the way I ate in thecilitation I took, I
was like, not only am I getting more energy? Oh,
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it's not hurting.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So much, right? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I eased on a treadmill and I replaced forty eight
to fifty minutes walking on trimo with running over time.
And then I asked my friend. You know, I told
her I was doing she was a runner, shell us,
not that you can come running out with. I'm like okay,
And I started doing that. And then after a while,
I you know, we did seven miles. I hit a
wall and she goes, you you finally hit a wall,
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like okay, but I can tell you I'm telling this
story for reason. And then later she asked me to
do a half marathon. I looked at her, went, I mean,
she says, a't math, how did you think? I'm like, okay,
So I did it, and I got so excited with
that stampede.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Actually, oh no, and.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I finished before her and she said, she said, you
do so fantastic, congratulations And I said, that's when the
half marathon. You really don't know until you do it.
And I run, you know, normally, I used to run
five to six miles a day, about five days, four
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to five days a week. I broke my foot and
then I had to go to learning moment again. I'm like, yeah,
but I got through that, you know. I fell a
few times and had some injuries, but I got through
it and after running again. So no matter what there
might be obstacles in your way, whether it's educational obstacles,
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whether it's physical obstacles, or whether it's and what's going
on with relationships, you can always navigate through those boots.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I found That's why one of my keystone habits not mine.
One of the what the literature says is important is
mindfulness and being aware of your thoughts, because it's unavoidable
to have bad thoughts, it's unavoidable to get down on yourself,
it's unavoidable to experience intense emotions, especially in difficult times.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But I find that a lot of folks aren't aware,
they're not fully aware of what they're thinking most of
the time.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
And the problem with that is if what you're thinking
is negative constantly, then you're in a trap. It's gonna
affect your mood, it's gonnaffect your sleep, it's gonn affect
your stress levels. And so just a simple mindfulness practice,
take one minute a day and try to pay attention
to your breath. Try to feel what it's like to
lose focus in seconds, right, because you can't. You can't
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not think for a whole minute. You have this crazy
clown in your head that's just constantly saying.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Idiotic things to you.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
And what you realize is in those down moments that
you're caught in this trap of catastrophizing. Well, I broke
my foot, so I won't get back and running next
week and then I won't run for a year and
I'll never run again. And you know, and you just
make these ridiculous leaps. You will still do that. But
if you're aware that you'll that you do that, you'll
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catch yourself and you go, oh, I'm going to stop.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm gonna stop back the train of thought. And that's
what that's a superpower.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, if we run five percent conscious brain, the subconscious
runs thin of our thoughts and so what is it
kind of splashes all these things into your brain, and yeah,
learn to control that too. I mean on average, men,
I guess there are sixty thousand, sixty thousand thoughts a day.
Women are eight thousand thoughts a day. It's a really
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large my number that people have no idea. But you
can quiet down those thoughts by deep diaphragmic breathing and
I you know, I have box breathing, and there's other
breathings that you can do, alternate nasal breathing. And another
thing that I do is I've been trained with acupressure
and that's really helped quite a bit because I just
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used it with my breathing and I meditate with the
acupressure and I just feel so much better and it's
melting my way, the stress out of my neck. So
those are signs that your stress when you have a
really tense neck and you know your jaw is tense,
and because it's not meant to be that way, you
need to be able to open your mouth at that
without it being so tense and feel better about yourself.
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So there's many different techniques for that, and the main
idea is recognizing the science of tension, recognize of you know,
upset stomach, recognizing the signs of fatigue, and you know,
and a lot of people don't pay attention. They just
kind of go go go, and you can't do things
more in a flow rather than go go go. Once
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you learn it's a maintain that time. Time will pass,
but you'll find out you're more productive than you've ever been.
So that's all I can say. So, now, do you
have an success story of a student whose life changed
through your guidance?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, of course. Yeah. So I worked with the young
lady years a couple of a couple of years ago,
and she was a preclculus, which is a notoriously difficult
bath subject because kids don't feel like it applies to anything.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Ever, there's some truth to that.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
And she was very stressed, and I was working with
her and one day I could tell she was not
paying attention. Right we were halfway through, I asked her
a question, she answered something totally different. She wasn't present,
So I said, hey, let's set the math aside and
let's just chat for a moment. And I asked her
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all the things that she was doing. So this is
a very smart young lady, a very accomplished She's at
a private school. Like when I was that age, my
life was a mess, right, So this.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
This young person is light years ahead of me at
that age.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
But she was competing to try to get into an
Ivy League school, and their family had hired a mentor
to help her do all the things that you need
to do to compete, and I mean, it's so it's
so difficult. So you know, she had signed up for everything,
and I asked her to go through the list of
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all the activities and extracurriculars that she was in and
it was just it was a mountain. And one of
the things that she mentioned was a study hall program
that she was in charge of facilitating. So she was
sitting in a classroom from like eight to eleven PM,
three times a week to just run a study hall.
And in her mind, and I think in the mentor's mind,
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that this was really great because it was two birds
one stone. I can be in this room and get
credit for having run this program, and then I could
also study at the same time.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And the problem was is that she wasn't able to
study there.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
She was constantly being interrupted kids asking where a vending
machine was or bathroom or a kid's asking for help,
because she was very smart, and honestly, sometimes she just
needed to go to bed on time, and having to
stay up that.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Late was interfering with that.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
And the big problem that she was suffering from wasn't
even that, It was the fact that she was not
She wasn't confident enough to tell her folks and her
mentor that this was too much and she was having
you know, sometimes young folks especially have a hard time
being disagreeable. And obviously her parents had spent good money
(30:58):
on this mentor and on this private school she was in,
and so she was just under this enormous pressure. So
we worked on a mindfulness practice, and we worked a
little bit on developing some communication methods and some confidence
for her to be able to go to her folks
and mentor and explain why this was probably not the
most the best activity for her to be involved in
(31:21):
and it wasn't going to change whether she got into
an Ivy League school or not. So it took a
couple of weeks and we worked on it, and she
was able to bring it up and they immediately agreed
with her. Because she's articulate and smart, and it made
her case well, But for me and for her, it
was more about the win of having the confidence to
be able to go to her parents and go to
(31:41):
this mentor and explain something that made her very uncomfortable,
you know, doing was disagreeing with these folks that she
loved and wanted the best for her. But we're still
in kind of positions of authority, and so you know,
I hope she did get into a great school, and
you know, I haven't worked with her in a while now,
but hopefully she's doing wonderful things and when she needs
(32:04):
to be, she's being a little bit more disagreeable, you know.
So that was that's that's the that's the success story
that comes to mind almost every time when someone asks
me that, because she she just really transformed over the
year that I worked with her. It was really great.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well, yeah, that's fantastic. But you know, she had to
do some kind of project, I guess, and that's what
that project was, the study hall, and maybe they could
have cut back some of the hours that you want
to be cloudy minded and be able to you know,
function better and be happier, you know, right, So you know,
what girls are people pleasers?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yes, yes, I do more work with young girls on
the disagreeable part than boys.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Boys seem to.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Be ready to fight and argue at everything, So.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
So I got to get them to calm down a
little bit, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, but you know, girls tend to be people pleasers.
But you know it doesn't hurt speak up and and
and say it in a positive way so that they
can really see, oh, this is yeah that personally needs
to do. Right. Yeah, So, now, how can parents, educators,
our mentors support the next generation more efficiently?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Oh, more efficiently, I would say, counterintuitively.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Let them figure it out, and that can be that
can be really difficult. I I have seen a lot
of students they're they're so overhelped and they're you know,
their folks are involved, which is wonderful. But at the
end of the day, you you're not going to grow
up unless you unless you go out on your own
(33:42):
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
And so.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think probably one of the best things that we
can do is let kids make their own mistakes. Guide
them and coach them and warn them, of course, but
let them spread out, let them go it alone a
little bit, and let them fall and then when they
need they can them back and they get that help
and that guidance and may go back out again and uh,
you know, let them let them rough and tumble a
(34:05):
little bit. Now, it's not exactly maybe more efficient, it
doesn't seem efficient, but in a long run, it's an
efficiency game.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
So in the short run, I'm very guilty of this.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I have a wonderful eight year old little girl who
she's the best, and but I have a hard time.
I want to do things for her right because we're
in a hurry, and I'm like, I'll just wash the
dish for you because i'll do it better and i'll
do it faster, you know, but I have to let
her do it.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
And I think that's that's a common theme. In the
short run, yes, I'll do it faster and better, but
in the long run, she's never going to learn how
to wash her own dishes. And I know that might
be a silly example, but I see that over and
over and over again, so I think it's really important.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, and you know, kids are afraid of me. Something
shouldn't be. It's okay to think it's a learning moment.
You grow from it, and you may find a better
solution when you.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Make my stick.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But who was it Thomas Edison that forever to create
a light bulb?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Right, yeah, you found two thousand ways to not make
a light bulb, I think.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Is exactly exactly. So thank you for coming up a
button fact. But you know, I'm not perfect. I don't know.
I'm sure you're not perfect. And it's just you need
to work at things, and you need to and I
mean my work at things is just let things happen
that may not be agreeable to people, because in deep
(35:32):
outside you got to say something right and and but
you know, then get over it.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah yeah, let it go. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Are too short, you know, and things are not going
to always happen the way you wish it would happen.
But what's fine A really good solution if everyone's open
to it. And that's the thing. People need to be
open to it, and people need to understand where someone's
coming from. Maybe I understand the perspective. They can't just
(36:02):
decide for people, you're gregeous, like we can't decide for
our kids. They got to really want to have a
certain occupation.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's there's a balance obviously, as
a parent, you are a little bit hopefully a little
bit wiser, and you've been around and you know you
want to guide them and warn them, and you should.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
They have a responsibility to do that.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
And uh, you know, at the end of the day,
these are these are human beings and they have to
chart their own course. That's why I call my course
the self architect course, because you are you have to.
Everyone creates their own, their own destiny and their own vision.
So I think it's really important to let them do that.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yes, a little bit early for the offer, but why
don't we talk about it since you mentioned it?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've built I'm building
a built a free community so that everybody's welcome to join.
But for any of the clients that I get, you know,
that join the community from from your show here, I'm
more than welcome to work with them for free for them,
so free coaching for a month, and you know, we'll
(37:09):
work through work through this framework. Sometimes I get folks
that are way ahead and they want to jump right
to habits and don't be mad at me. I'm going
to make you start over. You know, we go from
from the very beginning. We try to figure out who
you are who you want to be. We do the
hard work of figuring out what the difference is, and
sometimes that can be painful. We work on the keystone habits.
(37:30):
We help you build your gap habits, so those those
that you want to build, and then we figure out
how to implement them in your life. We do use
a little bit of AI to help us with that,
to come up with ideas and brainstorm different ways to
fit those things in because it's just a great tool.
And then you know, I'm gonna ask you to teach,
coach and mentor others to do the same.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah. So there's a lot of inter action in your community,
which is really important.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
So I will for your viewers, A'll warn you we
just switched platforms.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yeah, so there there is a lot of action, but.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
We're migrating over. This platform is a little bit easier
for folks to find, I think, and a little bit
simpler for people to use. And I want it to
be simple and I want it to be so you'll
you'll see folks will start flooding in here shortly.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So okay, well, so you can join his free community.
I guess the first five will get that one month coaching.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
That's right, yep. And we meet once a week and.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
After that because I don't know when they're going to
come in as a flow. But you go to w
W W dot school. But it's spelt s k O
L dot com. It is Flash South Dash Architect.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
That's right. Yep.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, that's your own life.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
That is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Michael, Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
That's a wonderful offer. And you can be brightening so
many souls out there, many music life. So will you
like to be a guest again?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
I would love to be a guest again, of.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Course, fantastic. So please stick around for closing remarks. You'll
have some time to say some more if you want, Okay, great, Yeah,
And so remember I do revialize people's lives in many
different areas at half a mindset. I start with their
gut and I also start with mindset because that's the
gut brain connection. There's also a heart brain connection as
(39:27):
well that I help people with too. But I also
help with bone and joint blood sugarup, brain and heart,
as well as community hormones and anxiety obviously, and also
I do help people with athletes due to my own
you know, experience, and I guide them to clean toxic
refears and high quantity essential nutrient products that will reduce symptoms.
(39:49):
They'll feel better if they need to release weight. They
might be releasing weight, but it's definitely going to uplift
their mood. With my mindset coaching, I help them release stress,
emotions and techniques in the past and guide them and
reshaping their core beliefs because they have to do it themselves.
You might be enhanced now with my health optimization and
(40:10):
weight release. Your body be more efficient. That's a mind
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you need to go to this link which is at
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N G yes dot com for s us link tree.
The set a complimenting consultation where you will get to
(40:31):
know me, I get to know you, and I need
to offer a health and it begins with you know
these health assessments. And the first one is a health
evaluation where you will write your sentence the last thirty
days and four categories of health. Some questions overlapping multiple categories.
Please answer them all and you'll get a baseline score.
I will review it with you when you before of
(40:52):
my services that create that custom natural has experighed for
you and we will review this on a monthly basis
to see your progress. Now, I have another way of
doing this, which is called which is are two different
zide of scans, but I prefer to get the zide
of a zero link because I can actually send this
scan remotely internationally and I send it to Australia and
(41:13):
South Africa. The zero is a is a trans optical
imaging app that sent a link to to your phone.
You can't be scanning your face. It's going through your
skin to see bluff fluff for components of energenic, functional,
emotional and different body systems and lifestyles and it will
create a wellness report. Now that emotional part is such
(41:36):
a pin and gym, so it's going to create a
Welen support where you have biomarkers out of range process
series that bring it back into range and I will
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(41:58):
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And you can also you know, when people take this,
they're really amaze what their body tells them. So you
can either ask me questions on my complementary consultation or
(42:20):
you can get this scan done to see what everyone's
talking about, because they really found it very valuable. You
know that the body tells them what's going on. And
on the same site, I have my programs Take your
Body Back as a twelve week wait Release minds at
coaching program where you can you know, has a new
version of you to drive you to assess. All coaching
is down on Zoom. The first one is always private
(42:42):
to you because I'm a certified Hip Hop health practitioner,
so all health assessments are private. I'll go over those assessments.
I give you a choice between two meal plans, directions
on one, and I give you instructions how to create
a new version of you in an avatar Borough Dry
with emotion and passion to achieve your health and weight
transmission goals throughout your journey. But the aggress of the coaching,
(43:05):
whether it's group of private, it's the same. Will be
celebrating or west I'll be showing you how to use
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health and mindset tip you will become a new you.
We welcome to ask me questions at the private complimentary
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that's a longer version. You know, probably the bigger program
will work better for I can also create a custom
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can we have Michael come back? I'm back, Hi, So
is there anything else you want to say before we,
you know, close it off.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Well, I just want to say how much I appreciate
you having me on and you've got a really great
show here, and I love your approach and how you're
trying to help folks holistically starting with minds, mind and body.
I think that's wonderful so that's something I'm trying to
emulate in my own program is it's not just about
any one thing, and it's really hard and can be
(46:12):
very overwhelming when you're trying to fix your entire life
at once. And so whether you're starting in the physical
or the mental the spiritual space, think the most important
thing is to take the first step and start making progress.
And remember that even a one percent change over the
course of a year is a thirty seven times improvement,
So just make those little steps each day.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Exactly. I completely agree. So thank you for being on
my show, so continue to enjoy my radio and TV show.
Debbie Changes lives on Thursdays at three pm specific six
pm Eastern, where your holistic.
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