September 4, 2025 • 47 mins
What if you could understand people by simply analyzing their facial features and body language? Join Debi as she speaks with Alan Stevens, creator of the Rapid Trait Profiling (RTP) system. He reveals how Human Pattern Recognition uses observable cues to decipher personality traits and emotional states. Learn how this powerful system can help business leaders, parents, and law enforcement resolve conflict with clarity and enhance communication for measurable results in every interaction.
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Welcome to my radio. On TV show Debut chooses Lives,
I'm wi you certify who is a cause coach? I
finalize people's lives, helping them identify the root causes at
that health amiset issues and create a custom natural let's
strategy address them in the areas of mind, by and soul.
As a health coach, I'm not a las say than
I heal, treat care, prevent or diagnosed any diseases. I
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can certainly make your body more efficient by reducing symptoms.
You'll see and feel the differences and be more reductive.
And also as a I recently I actually released sempty
pounds and became half a half marathon run. We go
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to the next slide, rebel if you have that up. Okay,
So this is my story. I became a half marathon
runner at the age of fifty one because pretty much
I had a transformation. I released seventy pounds and I
became and I actually kept it off for over a decade.
I had a mind and health transformation as well. At
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the age of fifty one. That's when I started running
and I was a person I couldn't run from pain.
And as you've done a half marathons, mindset is the
key to lasting change. Now. As a certified holistic health coach,
I do revialize people's lives in many different areas of
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health and mindset. I guide into a clean toxic refuse
and high quality central nutrients. My coaching is for if
you want to go to the next slide, optimizing health,
releasing weight, and enhancing your mindset. I help my clients
recognize that their thoughts, feelings, emotions drive their actions and results,
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sometimes good and sometimes bad. That's why it's crucial to
have a positive mindset in life. It's also imperative to
manage your emotions and release those low vibracial emotions such
as fear, frustration, adapt because all that's going to do
is slow you down physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually like
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release some emotional balances and baggage so if they can
uplift to a better, healthier, healthier life. In turn, they
are releasing their stress, They're getting healthier and the reacio
tipic reshiping their core beliefs. You'll see and feel the
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healthier life. Now, the art of conversation has been faltering
due to computers and smartphones, text messaging and emails. Those
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are words without a face and voice, and today I'm
honored to have Allen Stevens back international profiling and communications specialists.
Allen is also the creator of Rapid Tray Profiling and
Alfred Alderler laid in the foundation understanding human behavior. Alan
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Stevens adopted these principles and made them more practical through
rapid Trade Profiling, utilizing authors psychology that made observable, teachable,
and usable in every conversation. Rapid Trade Profiling is not
only one of two systems alongside the Big Five and
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parely proven and scientifically grounded, making it the only one
time observable and repeatable profiling method while rendering disc and
MPTI and other valius systems obsolete. Alan uses his rapid
Trade Profiling with business leaders, educators, parents, coaches, and law
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enforcement professionals to dramatically improve their ability to read and
respond to others, streathing and relationships, resul healing conflicts with clarity,
enhancing communication under pressure, creating a measurable results and every
interaction whether it is in business, personal life, and in
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the community. Now, Alan runs the Campfire Project. Not only
an initiative, it's the only initiative to deliver is fully
open behavior model model of inclusion, uniting people across cultures, beliefs,
and identities, and it stands as a standard for gold
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standard for inclusion. And he also has a nonprofit called
businesses smiles. You can check out this on his previous episode,
The count Fire Project, A Journey into Mental Wellness. Now
today we'll be discussing how to read people and relationships.
Let's welcome Alan Stevens, international profile and communication specialist from
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Human Pattern Recognition. Alan, Welcome to my show.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Thanks very much, And my god, that's a mouthful to
get through, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, but you know what you have done so much
and it's very and I just love what you've done
for the community and the global world involved. Yes, you're welcome. Now,
how did you get involved in reading people?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well, it's an interesting process.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
A lot of people think that I had some intuitive
gift for reading people. No, I went through two divorces,
a lot of broken relationships. I'd even had business partners
who entered the bank out, so I wasn't very good
at it. But one of the things I realized that
after my second divorce, I needed to be able to
read people more effectively. So I started looking at more
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skills to read people. I started in the fifties with
well I've got fifties. In nineteen seventy five, when I
was put in charge of men who are all older
than me, and getting them on side was an issue.
So I started with body language. I was just saying
the fifties. It was when I turned fifty I went
through my second divorce and that's why I realized I
needed to use skills.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
But it started.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's a gift that everybody has when we're younger, but
as we get older, it's a gift that we actually lose.
Because we actually lose we forget it, we misplaced it
because we're too busy going to school, playing sports, hobbies,
all the things that we do. And like any skill,
if we don't work at atrophies and so all I
do is I teach people now how to read people
more effectively, to build stronger relationships.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well that's fantastic, but you're right, it's kind of like
if you don't use a foreign language, you're going to
lose it. Lets you use it right, and that's it.
Take it exactly. So it's not innate skill. It's something
that you actually taught yourself later on by research and
things like that. And one thing I said in the opening,
you know today people are losing the art of communication
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because of the text messaging and the emailing. They really
are meaning meanings this message unless we see someone's tonality,
someone's expressions, and as well as seeing their face and
YouTube people to really understand that.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
One of the biggest problems we've got today is that
we're relying on text, and we're seeing it on social
media every day, people getting into fights because the biggest
issue is that when we see text, we don't get
the tone of voice, we don't get the full meaning.
We can't see that person to see what's going on,
and so we read any text with our own emotions
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how we feel at the time. And I've seen people
go backwards and forwards fighting with each other, and I'm
sitting back in the background going, hang on, They're talking
about the same thing, but they miss it all together.
And I actually had that situation myself. There was a
post This is back around about the twenty sixteen. There
was a post that I'd put a comment on and
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a gentleman actually had a response to it, and it
was in a sort of a negative way, and I thought, wait,
hang on, the way he's explained what he's saying here,
it sounds like something that is in line with what
I'm talking about, but he hasn't realized so I put
another little comment up just to test it, and yep,
I was sure that he was talking about the same thing,
but he hadn't realized. So instead of getting into an argument,
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what I did was I sent him a direct connection
request on Facebook and suggested that we actually get together
and have a chat. And I'd actually put that was
my next post online on that post was to say, hey,
I've just sent you a personal connection. I reckon you
and I are talking about the same thing, but we're
missing it. How about we have a personal conversation.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
We did that.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We had a great conversation and he said to me, well,
why didn't you challenge me on that? Why did you
change the direction? I said, well, look, this is what
I do. I told him about the profiling, etc. And
he went, okay, can you profile my daughters and having
some issues, So he paid me to profile his daughters.
And then I was over in London working with Disney
Films and Gillette for their Rogue and Star Wars launch
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and a joint bench that they had running. And while
I'm walking around museums in the daytime and going around
London checking the place out, he was sending me because
we'd have been nights. I'm over here in Australia, and
he'd finished his work for the day. He was sending
the messages going when can I do your master course?
So because I didn't fight with him, I got virtually
five digit to payment out of not fighting with him.
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Because if you stop long enough and you ask yourself,
what's the other person saying? First of all, you've got
to say to yourself, I don't have to be right.
I have to make sure that the other person is
all right. And so many conversations I have. I have
it to understand the person. And if it's via text,
you can't do that. It's a very long drawn out process.
You've got to be able to see the person, or
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at least hear the person. If someone sends me along email,
I'm quite I'm quite direct with him. I just send
back the initials TLDR too long, didn't read.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Get on a call and we see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
If they then go on a call with me, because
I said, right, if I can't have a see you
face to face, then let's do a video call. If
I can't do a video call for with you, let's
get on the phone. If we can't do that, go
back to the first option, because I will not have
a discussion by emails or text. You're just asking for problems.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, I mean I actually did that with somebody, you know,
because another podcast guest, and I said, you know, this'd
be a lot easier if I can talk to you
on the phone. It really, you know, it works like
a term because people are just so they're using text,
messaging emails as a crutch thinking some time, but really,
in the long run, it's.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Not definitely drags out. The end result is that you
don't get the message across. Like if I've got an offer,
I'm talking about something I want to present, people go, okay,
can you tell me more about it? Well, let's go
on a call. And they're worried that I'm going to
try and do a hard self. I don't believe in
hard cells. My job is to find out what that
person needs, where their problems are, and everything goals. The
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results is I've got to be able to help them
get the emotional outcome that they want out of it.
I've got to help them save time, and I've got
to help them even make money or save money. I've
got to solve the problem they have and help to
remove their worry and stress. If I'm doing that, then
the end result is I'm not selling to them. I'm
a problem solver. Eat everybody wants to find a problem solver.
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So if you have a talk with me, it's going
to be laid back. I want to get to know you.
And if I am I always thinking about well, am
I the right person for you? Or if I got
somebody else in my network that has what you need
right now and I'll connect you with them instead, that's
all about the other person first.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I do, because you know,
sometimes it's just not right. Connection really are a specialty,
and so it's better just to refer them to somebody
else and you know they can get their help exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So if you do it that way, the end result
is I've got one client who is still doing testimonials
videos for me fifteen years after I worked with her
and the son. This is the thing that if you
put the other person first, they'll always talk about you
and your raising fans. But if you just try and
get that money out of them to give them a
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service that somebody else could better deliver, then that doesn't
help your reputation, and your reputation is your business.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yes it is. I completely agree with you. Now let's
talk about the rapid trade profiling. Where can it be
used everywhere?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
The simple answer, Now, I can look at a young
child and see the traits have been passed down for
the parents. So what we call them nature traits, and
I can see a number of gifts in a newborn,
things like music traits, things like that. Before they go
to school, we know what type of school will suit them.
We know what hobbies and sports will suit them, before
they pick their final subjects. We also know what careers
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will suit them, so then we can help them guide
them to do the right subjects because how many people
go to university end up with one or two degrees
and never use them because they go into that work
and go this is not for me, and so the
going to result them from there? It's okay, How do
we find the right partner? First of all, what am I?
It's not just what does a person look like, but
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it's a case of what do I want in my relationship?
What sort of a relationship do I want? And then
we can then realize what sort of person would be
that personal partner? Once we've got the partner, how do
we keep the partner in the workplace. You've got into
the job that you love doing. The employee's going to
be happier at what they're doing, So they're going to go.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Home and they're going to be happier.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
There's less arguments with their spouse, better relationships with their kids.
And at the same time, the employer is going to
make more money. If the company makes more money, that
person's assured at their job as well. Because we actually
have a contract with the people that we're working for
and all the people who are working for us, we
support each other. The workers, create work with the clients,
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make sure everything's happy. We make a lot of money
we're able to then pay then we keep the business going.
This is how we get our security. It's not by
just going getting a job that's paying good. It's a
job matter of having a relationship with the owners of
the business so that we then have that take place
where we can go to work every day. I feel
comfortable and make money, and they make money and survive
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into the future.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, everyone is productive when everything serves each other and
help each other out. So that's the whole point. You
want you want relationships, whether it's in business or personal life,
there are cost symbiotic in the way, so they really,
you know, enjoy your life other way friction, that's it,
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and that will bring you emotionally exactly bental on physical issues.
So I can futly agree with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, Well, if you want to work on your business,
that's a catch cror. They go and work on your business, Well,
you can't do that unless you've got the right people
working in your business for you. If they feel that
they're value, they contribute, that they have a place, et cetera,
they will want to be there at the beginning of
the week and they'll be in working all the way
through the week. You can go and then work on
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your business, even go on holidays. And that was the
old statement of a true business person with somebody who
hired people who do the work that they couldn't do
or didn't want to do, so they could go on holidays,
and while they were anything on the holidays, the company
not only survives, but it grows in their absence. And
the only way that happens is when the people you've
got in your organization are so invested in the work.
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They talk about build your relationships, empower people and all
the rest of it. They talk about authority, but it's
not authority you give your client, your workers. It's the
authority that they assume themselves and they go, right, I've
got this responsibility. I got this authority to make sure
that this company grows because this is my likelihood as well.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It becomes a partnership.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yes, exactly, it does. Now, so this is going to
benefit people to have these skills because they'll be more
productive in the workplace and as well as better relationships.
Can you give us them examples of what where are
this is helf both in business and personal life? Now
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you kind of did that already. We're talking about business.
Else in the personal life other than reducing friction.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well, there is I've got I mentioned before one of
my clients who is doing testimonial was still fifteen years later.
She's holding the record at the moment, and a lot
of others who have been ten years or so. But
I profiled her son when he was six years old.
He has Asperger. School didn't want him. After school's kid
didn't want him. They were pushing to have him heavily medicated.
The psychologist said he'd need a care for the rest
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of his life. I profiled him, and by the way,
I did it from five photographs because he wouldn't sit
still for me. So she took the photographs and sent
them to me because I'm looking at the facial features,
not the expressions or anything. And I gave her a
written report that she took to the school, playing the
school against the after school's care, telling both of them
that the others were doing it and if they didn't
have a fail, so they put it in place. A
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year later, he was doing presentations in front of the class.
Another year later, they let the psychologists go with the
doctor's approval. Medication was off the table the last I heard.
Now he's twenty one, living in Queensland on his own,
got his own place, got a girl friend, paying his
own bills, and he's now an assistant manager in a nightclub,
which never would have happened if he'd been medicated all
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that way through. All they had to do was change
the way they spoke to him, which changed his environment.
And if a child is happier, they're not going to
need that medication. He's not going to be triggered, and
that made the change there. In business, I had a
visiting a buildup who quoted on the building worth two
million dollars as he's quote. The clients wouldn't go above
one point six million. The deal was falling off the table.
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I got them to He gave me the base on
one of LinkedIn the other partner on Google Search. I
profiled both of them, told him how to change the
way he was talking to them. The end result in
that conversation he added another one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars to his original quote and sign him off on it.
So that's how effective it can be in sales, but
in your own personal development. I heard business coach over
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in Perth who sent me his five photographs. He was
doing a short course, a three step program wherever he
did a short course online. I did his profile and
then we got together and looked at some of the
people he wanted to build better relationships with.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
How to do that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
But what he told me after I send him a
forty five minute audio on his profile, That's when he
told me he used to be an undercover an arcotics
agent for two decades before he went into the role
of being a business coach. And the business coaching he's
doing today is training the leadership of the ESAPS in
the military and so. But what he said he used
skills that he believed were ninety five percent accurate in
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his previous role.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
He said they hadn't been, he wouldn't be alive today.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
But what I put in that forty five minute audio
not only matched, but nuanced everything you learned about himself
in those two decades. So understanding yourself first of all,
knowing how to find the right partner, knowing how to
raise your children up, how to find the right job.
There's no aspect of life where you can't use it,
use it even just in your own personal development, without
even talking to anybody else. Your upside of your traits,
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you know the downside of your traits. You know what
triggers you when you get stressed. The upside tells us
what we should go and do with your careers. The
downside tells us what environments we should stay away from.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, this was all about Yeah, that makes life a
lot easier, doesn't It.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Does, because once you understand this is where your stuff
really comes in, getting into that mindset and everything else.
This is why what you do and I do just
blend so beautifully together. And while I'm looking forward to
doing things with you into the future.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, that's gonna be a lot of fun when we do. Now,
I got to say that, you know, with my mindset coaching,
I do help people recognize that they're in a certain
state and what to do to police being in that state,
and to also remember and stop it in the future.
And what's really important. I've learned that for myself and
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it's really helped me strength in my mind. So I
didn't really go through my intro too well, but pretty
much I had in mind and health, you know, mindset
and health, you know, transformation. I became more aware of
having to become home healthier, and then later on I became
more aware of having starting mindset and it was a
journey for me, but I am so happy I went
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through that and learned all these things different people, and
I kind of collaborated it from my own because it's
easier to communicate that for people. And so I really
enjoy helping people to you know, creating a new lifestyle
from themselves really, you know, being putting themselves out there
as a better person and enjoying life because that's what
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we're here to do is enjoy life, and too many
people just get so overwhelmed either by stress or emotions,
and emotions can drive stress, and then stress can trickle
the emotions. So my whole point is is that you
need to be aware of this, that you slow it
down and you know one's perfect, but at least you know, Louis,
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it prevent it from happening again. And it's definitely a
growing moment for everybody and.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Something we need to go through.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Because I love the fact of what you're just talking about,
having gone through this stuff yourself and therefore taking your
experience and teaching others and the passion in doing that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
That's what drives me as well.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
When we looked at the upside of the downside of
the trades, the first thing I had to do is
understand me. Once I understood that, I knew where my
gifts and strengths were, but I also knew where the
downside of my trades were. And as I said, I
went through to devices a lot of break relationships, and
once I knew the downside of my trades, I went, Okay,
now I know the part I played in those relationships.
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This is the thing we have to look at ourselves first. Yes,
this is why I love about what you do and
what I do. It just blends so well together in
making sure that we understand ourselves first of all, and
then we can go and help other people.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, because a lot of the stuff just brings up
anxiety when it comes to relationships. Is she thinking this way?
Is she thinking that way? Even though you read faces,
no one's really a mind reader, you know what I mean.
You can probably predict how someone's going to react, but
you know it's best not to dwell on things over thanks,
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and and you know it's in this day's technology with
text messaging and things like that, don't read between the
lines because that's going to.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Get you know, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
When I give talks, I quite often walk out on
stage and the first question I ask everybody is who
here has ever wanted to read minds? And all the
hands go up and go okay, who would like to
know what their spouse is thinking? And the rest of
their hands go up, and I go, well so would I.
Nobody can do that, but I can teach you the
next best thing. So we always start off with a
bit of.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Fun, exactly because you know, people get frustrated, well, how
come I can't read minds? Well, you know, some people,
you know, even energy healers, they're being a field around
you to get a feeling for what you're like. They're
kind of surveying your emotions so much what you're doing.
But you're looking at traits that you teach people because
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it's something that's observable, teachable, and makes it really easy
for you to have conversations with people that you've learned from,
you know, gotten some principles from Arthur Adler, and like
you said, and like I said in the entry, and
the information you gave me, it just makes it a
lot more practical for the everyday person.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Understand Today everything's about, you know, how do we move forward?
Et cetera. We had Carl. There was Freud first of all,
who diagnosed everything. That's where our psychologists and psychiatrist started.
And that's why you spend a long time in therapy
going over the same stuff, and you wonder why you
ever move, Hey, you move forward. And then we had
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Carl Jung who was all about the archetypes and exploring,
and then we had Adler, who was all about how
to empower people, and I love the catch cry that
came back recently from the said to me was Freud diagnosed?
Jung explored, add the ri empowered and Alan Stevens delivers.
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So I've taken what he's been teaching people for all
that time back then, because O're all contemporaries around the
same time in the nineteen thirties, et cetera. And the
end result was that my journey has started with Carl
Jung's barrier, with Myers Briggs and disprofiling and.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But I realized all the drawbacks with those with the
self reporting, that you had to take that side out
with mine.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
There's no self reporting.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
If I look at somebody in this situation, I know
how they're going to behave you put them in that situation,
I know are going to behave there. It's dynamic. Once
you read a person, you can answer any question around them.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, self reporting is kind of interesting. Self reporting is
what the person is reflecting amon themselves. That's it, And
is it really truthful? And I go into their in
neat sol is it really align with their in next song?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Because what's your emotions in the moment that will have
an impact on it. How you've been interpret the words
in those questions. You know, my interpretation of loyalty in
somebody else's interpretation of loyalty.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Would be completely different.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
So putting it on the words instead of going, well,
who is that person inside? Don't my as Briggs just
put people in boxes. I think, come along and take
them out of the box and treat them as an
individual uniquely different to everybody else on the planet. So
they get to be seen as they really are, who
they are, as we really know you've found out. Earlier
on we talked about the Campfire Project. It's very noble
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to achieve it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, and I think I forgot to tell you, but
the link for the Campfire Project, that's bimly that oh
I for us, I ask the Campfire Project. But yeah,
the Campfire Project. You know, you're using that behavioral model
to help people you know, you know, really share their stories.
And that is such a great thing to do because
(26:51):
it gets that angst and the feeling, desensitizes the emotions
from what's going on because they're no longer so tight.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah, that's the power of the profile in that because
those people were saying, I can't talk about what I've
been through. They hadn't told anybody before in their lives,
their partners, as their counselors, as psychologists, et cetera. And
within five minutes they're opening up and telling me the
whole story, and they're talking along the way, and that
for anything up to an hour without interruption, and at
(27:20):
the end of it they've said, well, that's.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
The best therapy I've ever had.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I said, well, if you enjoyed that, and get
off the call and go and thank the therapist by
looking in the mirror and thanking yourself because you finally
opened up. But it was being able to read people
that helped them to open up so effectively. I feel
really grateful to have those people who have come along
and trusted me to do that. But that's the power
of being able to recognize someone's personality and talk to
them in the way that they need and want to
(27:44):
be spoken to, and you get instant report it's going
to ride on the spot.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well, you're opening up their soul too if you think
about it, because you're opening up. Oh, I'm okay, I
can keep it at least alan right now, probably do
better in the future. So that's my whole point, it's
like you're uplifting their spirit, You're uplifting their emotional vibration
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into more joy more. Oh, I'm okay, I this is
you know, I'm going to be okay. And you know
I don't have a chip on my shoulder anymore. And
because a lot of people just you know, I hate
to say this, the medical community has a really hard
time with putting labels on people. And then people like, oh,
the label is sticking, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
(28:30):
you can rip that label off. Most of them labels
are given to people to get some kind of medical
treatment or services, you know, especially and similar labels have
changed over the years. But the whole point is they
don't really fit everybody, especially in the spectrum. It's like
thirty one thirty one flavors of you know, spectrum. Everybody
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may have one label that they are completely different. They
made me a mixed match between all you know else
burgers and ADHD or or a d D or whatever.
Or they may be dyslexic and and and they're also
alsourcause my whole point, all these people are people, and
they have remarkable capabilities to do really special things in
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their life, especially the asburgers they are. If they really
have a high IQ, they can give back to society
and be able to I mean and grow businesses. Just
for for example, you know, Richard Branson is dyslexic, okay,
and he talks about neurodiversity and being you know, being
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such a great asset assets. And the whole thing is
is that these people can focus, They have stay in concentration.
They are related to data analysis, and they can really
bring up, you know, really realization for company.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Every last one of them have got a gift.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
That's the thing that we don't realize because our main
thing is to get them into this education system we've
got which has put him in a box. And that was,
let's face, it was designed to get far off to
the factories. It was teachers get off the property of
the land and go and work in a factory. It
hasn't changed over all those decades and the centuries at
that point, and so we losing the gift that these
(30:27):
people can bring to the table. If we can recognize
the gift they've got and develop that help to nurture it,
because as I said, our job as parents is not
to be sculptors or carpenters and turn our kids into something.
We're gardeners. Our job is to nurture them into the
best version of themselves. So if we set the system
up so that that can happen, we'd be having more
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kids coming out of school, going into careers and really
expanding and doing things. Because people like Richard Branson and
all the other people with those conditions struggled all the
way through.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
As I said, with young.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Jack, that young boy that I worked with, and that
was just one profile. Here you go pair the mother,
this is how you talk to them, This is how
you get the school to talk to him, and almost
immediately things have changed. At the same time, I've done
this with school teachers and parents around the world, and
in every case they've found the child's behavior has improved,
the child has been happier, their academic levels have gone up,
(31:22):
and even when they've changed schools, going through there from
middle school, elementary school, middle school, et cetera. I think
that's the system that you have over there. We have
the preschool, primary school, etc. Into secondary school. As they
go through from those different levels from one school to another,
their behavior and their academic levels continue to increase because
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the people who understand them know how to talk to them.
If I can get on stage and have an audience
of hundreds of people and look at each person and
talk to each one in the way that they need
to be spoken to, and get a full connection with
every one of them, why can't a teacher do it
with twenty thirty children. This is the If they did that,
they wouldn't have the problems they got in the classroom.
(32:03):
They wouldn't had the turnover of teachers that we have today,
we wouldn't have the mental health issues that we have.
And by the way, everybody, I don't care who they are,
including me and you, we are all on the mental
health scale. We're lucky we're at the good end, but
some people are down the other. But we travel backwards
and forwards. You get up one morning, you've got a
really bad attitude to the world, You've stubbed your toe
(32:25):
and all the rest of it. Somebody looks at you
the wrong way and we respond, you know, the way
you looked at me was a funny color type thing.
And we have a go at them, and then that
builds up.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
We have a bad day.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Another day, we get up we're happy. So once we
start to realize that we can then have more empathy
and understanding. But those who have been labeled with those
conditions go, Okay, how do we now help you to
be the best version of yourself so that you thrive
and you're happy. Let's change the system. That's what I
do with parents and school teachers.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, that's so important because you know, to a lot
of people and I'm like, what really is normal? There
is no normal. My son used to watch Sponge and
something that's really funny, bungebobs, you know, unnormal. Well, he
has no more sponge, he has no normal, normal spores,
no more whatever. He's talking like, and I am He's
(33:20):
talking really slowly. I'm I want to be I am normal. Now.
That is such a decoloration personality, if you get my point.
Everybody has their own spark, everybody has their own personality,
emotional base and everything else. And like you said, we
have our difficult times, but it's the way we rebound
(33:42):
from them, and we can teach others to rebound from
them better. That's the whole thing, you know, Because we're
here to enjoy life and we're here for a purpose.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
You're just saying that about there's no normal. The Air
Force found that out. They decided they do dine because
cockpits are tight in a fighter plane. So what they
would actually do is they decided to design a seat
that would fit the normal person. Once they designed it,
they couldn't find anybody who would actually.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Fit it themself. There was no such thing as normal.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, there isn't.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
We're just a wide range of different varieties. And the
beautiful part of it is that it's the differences where
we create our teams, and that would people don't realize.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, everyone's unique. Everyone has their own finger print help
and that's what we are a personality wise as well.
So gosh, we have more time to look about your
offer and everything else the way, don't we go ahead
to get to your offer. So tell us a lot
about your offer.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Okay, Well, that particular course, it's a short course. It's
only twenty eight minutes in time, so anybody says they
haven't got time to do it. But it's also cut
up into small modules. The shortest video twenty eight seconds.
The whole idea is I don't like spending a lot
of time talking about stuff. I want to get people
to the results as fast as possible. It will give
them a number of traits, about three traits that then
(35:10):
go out and test for themselves. This is why I
introduced what I Do. I always said that when I
was growing up. My mother used to have the term
that you always say, the proof of the pudding is
in the eating, no matter how good the chef talks,
what does it taste like when it's actually finished. So
this is an opportunity for people to find out exactly
what they can face readings about, to test it for themselves,
(35:31):
go out and improve some relationships before they do anything else.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And then from there it does talk.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
About some of the other people I've worked with, some
of the courses that are available, and then people can go, Okay,
this is what I need in my life. Then they
can look at the next level they want to go to.
Always give first, okay.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And the course is called how to Persuade the Influence
Behaviors of Others Now ex it And you know some
people take persuade as something you know on the negative side,
But what you're doing is it just just learning how
to communicate better so that you relate to people better exactly,
And so you get to h T T P S
Colin force us for set store dot Allen Stephens and
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he spelled the name A L A N D and
Stephens is actually spelled s T e v E S
dot com dot a U for sush free. So people
don't spell your name right wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Always say the people Allan is I L I N
because of not too el's because my family wasn't reaching
up to buy the second L.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
So it's just one L.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
That's that's really cute. I never heard of that one.
So we've been kind of hitting throughout this about our
throughout our podcasts, but we have a announcement. We have
actually have a collaboration coming up, so we can bring
up the next line and our collaboration it's called The
(36:51):
Face Reveals the Mind Transforms. And my topic is Debbie
Walk and master your mind and transform your life and
pretty much I'm going to help you recognize emotions express
and where it does to your body physically emotionally and
how to release it. And I also have other programs
(37:11):
after that to delve into to get into more and
Alan talk about your topic.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Well, unlocking the secret language of the face, where you're
going to help them through those emotions. I help them
to read those emotions in other people as well, how
to actually make those better connections. For starting off first
of all, how the facial features work, what they learn
from that, then how to talk to the person. So
it starts off with know yourself, be able to read
(37:37):
the other person, and then be able to change the
way that you like to be spoken to the match
the way that they need to be spoken to to
build that rapport. And that's what we'll be going through.
It blends beautifully with what you're bringing to the table
as well.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, because it's going to be able to make the
people more powerful and communication and understand my emotions visually
as well. What do you think about it? And tonality?
So this webinar will be a live webinar on Wednesday,
October twenty second a second at seven pm Pacific. You
will you can register it once I get the landing
(38:13):
page complete and I will give the link out. So
if you want the link, just you know, please either
put type link in a comment on my YouTube channel
and go to my LinkedIn LinkedIn tree and go to
just say that you want the link. You also find
me on LinkedIn and I will send you the link
(38:34):
and I'm being announcing this next on my next podcast
as well, so you don't want to miss this. This
is such a valuable collaboration to understand your emotions and
what it does, as well as how to recognize it,
even you know with his traits profiling, because he's going
(38:54):
to have you recognize it visually as well. Mine is
more feeling babe.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
But we'll see that blend.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
But if you're in Australia then it's or in the
Southern Hemisphere where I am. It's going to be the Thursday.
It will be at one pm. We'll be in daylight
saving that here in New South Wales. If they turn
up on the twenty second in Australia, it'll be a
diar early that would show how keen you are.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, you can still use the languamin though we should
early and we're gonna have I'm gonna have a downloadable
you know, log guide offer and Alan, I don't know
what he's going to happen. We're gonna have the opportunities
where you can you know, do things with us. So
thank you for being my guest today. You have a
wonderful offer for my podcast and a wonderful collaboration we're
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due to computers and smartphones, text messaging and emails. Those
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are words without a face and voice, and today I'm
honored to have Allen Stevens back international profiling and communications specialists.
Allen is also the creator of Rapid Tray Profiling and
Alfred Alderler laid in the foundation understanding human behavior. Alan
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Stevens adopted these principles and made them more practical through
rapid Trade Profiling, utilizing authors psychology that made observable, teachable,
and usable in every conversation. Rapid Trade Profiling is not
only one of two systems alongside the Big Five and
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parely proven and scientifically grounded, making it the only one
time observable and repeatable profiling method while rendering disc and
MPTI and other valius systems obsolete. Alan uses his rapid
Trade Profiling with business leaders, educators, parents, coaches, and law
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enforcement professionals to dramatically improve their ability to read and
respond to others, streathing and relationships, resul healing conflicts with clarity,
enhancing communication under pressure, creating a measurable results and every
interaction whether it is in business, personal life, and in
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the community. Now, Alan runs the Campfire Project. Not only
an initiative, it's the only initiative to deliver is fully
open behavior model model of inclusion, uniting people across cultures, beliefs,
and identities, and it stands as a standard for gold
(05:33):
standard for inclusion. And he also has a nonprofit called
businesses smiles. You can check out this on his previous episode,
The count Fire Project, A Journey into Mental Wellness. Now
today we'll be discussing how to read people and relationships.
Let's welcome Alan Stevens, international profile and communication specialist from
(05:56):
Human Pattern Recognition. Alan, Welcome to my show.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Thanks very much, And my god, that's a mouthful to
get through, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, but you know what you have done so much
and it's very and I just love what you've done
for the community and the global world involved. Yes, you're welcome. Now,
how did you get involved in reading people?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well, it's an interesting process.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
A lot of people think that I had some intuitive
gift for reading people. No, I went through two divorces,
a lot of broken relationships. I'd even had business partners
who entered the bank out, so I wasn't very good
at it. But one of the things I realized that
after my second divorce, I needed to be able to
read people more effectively. So I started looking at more
(06:42):
skills to read people. I started in the fifties with
well I've got fifties. In nineteen seventy five, when I
was put in charge of men who are all older
than me, and getting them on side was an issue.
So I started with body language. I was just saying
the fifties. It was when I turned fifty I went
through my second divorce and that's why I realized I
needed to use skills.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
But it started.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It's a gift that everybody has when we're younger, but
as we get older, it's a gift that we actually lose.
Because we actually lose we forget it, we misplaced it
because we're too busy going to school, playing sports, hobbies,
all the things that we do. And like any skill,
if we don't work at atrophies and so all I
do is I teach people now how to read people
more effectively, to build stronger relationships.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well that's fantastic, but you're right, it's kind of like
if you don't use a foreign language, you're going to
lose it. Lets you use it right, and that's it.
Take it exactly. So it's not innate skill. It's something
that you actually taught yourself later on by research and
things like that. And one thing I said in the opening,
you know today people are losing the art of communication
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because of the text messaging and the emailing. They really
are meaning meanings this message unless we see someone's tonality,
someone's expressions, and as well as seeing their face and
YouTube people to really understand that.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
One of the biggest problems we've got today is that
we're relying on text, and we're seeing it on social
media every day, people getting into fights because the biggest
issue is that when we see text, we don't get
the tone of voice, we don't get the full meaning.
We can't see that person to see what's going on,
and so we read any text with our own emotions
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how we feel at the time. And I've seen people
go backwards and forwards fighting with each other, and I'm
sitting back in the background going, hang on, They're talking
about the same thing, but they miss it all together.
And I actually had that situation myself. There was a
post This is back around about the twenty sixteen. There
was a post that I'd put a comment on and
(08:47):
a gentleman actually had a response to it, and it
was in a sort of a negative way, and I thought, wait,
hang on, the way he's explained what he's saying here,
it sounds like something that is in line with what
I'm talking about, but he hasn't realized so I put
another little comment up just to test it, and yep,
I was sure that he was talking about the same thing,
but he hadn't realized. So instead of getting into an argument,
(09:08):
what I did was I sent him a direct connection
request on Facebook and suggested that we actually get together
and have a chat. And I'd actually put that was
my next post online on that post was to say, hey,
I've just sent you a personal connection. I reckon you
and I are talking about the same thing, but we're
missing it. How about we have a personal conversation.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
We did that.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We had a great conversation and he said to me, well,
why didn't you challenge me on that? Why did you
change the direction? I said, well, look, this is what
I do. I told him about the profiling, etc. And
he went, okay, can you profile my daughters and having
some issues, So he paid me to profile his daughters.
And then I was over in London working with Disney
Films and Gillette for their Rogue and Star Wars launch
(09:50):
and a joint bench that they had running. And while
I'm walking around museums in the daytime and going around
London checking the place out, he was sending me because
we'd have been nights. I'm over here in Australia, and
he'd finished his work for the day. He was sending
the messages going when can I do your master course?
So because I didn't fight with him, I got virtually
five digit to payment out of not fighting with him.
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Because if you stop long enough and you ask yourself,
what's the other person saying? First of all, you've got
to say to yourself, I don't have to be right.
I have to make sure that the other person is
all right. And so many conversations I have. I have
it to understand the person. And if it's via text,
you can't do that. It's a very long drawn out process.
You've got to be able to see the person, or
(10:34):
at least hear the person. If someone sends me along email,
I'm quite I'm quite direct with him. I just send
back the initials TLDR too long, didn't read.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Get on a call and we see how that goes.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
If they then go on a call with me, because
I said, right, if I can't have a see you
face to face, then let's do a video call. If
I can't do a video call for with you, let's
get on the phone. If we can't do that, go
back to the first option, because I will not have
a discussion by emails or text. You're just asking for problems.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, I mean I actually did that with somebody, you know,
because another podcast guest, and I said, you know, this'd
be a lot easier if I can talk to you
on the phone. It really, you know, it works like
a term because people are just so they're using text,
messaging emails as a crutch thinking some time, but really,
in the long run, it's.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Not definitely drags out. The end result is that you
don't get the message across. Like if I've got an offer,
I'm talking about something I want to present, people go, okay,
can you tell me more about it? Well, let's go
on a call. And they're worried that I'm going to
try and do a hard self. I don't believe in
hard cells. My job is to find out what that
person needs, where their problems are, and everything goals. The
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results is I've got to be able to help them
get the emotional outcome that they want out of it.
I've got to help them save time, and I've got
to help them even make money or save money. I've
got to solve the problem they have and help to
remove their worry and stress. If I'm doing that, then
the end result is I'm not selling to them. I'm
a problem solver. Eat everybody wants to find a problem solver.
(12:13):
So if you have a talk with me, it's going
to be laid back. I want to get to know you.
And if I am I always thinking about well, am
I the right person for you? Or if I got
somebody else in my network that has what you need
right now and I'll connect you with them instead, that's
all about the other person first.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, exactly, That's exactly what I do, because you know,
sometimes it's just not right. Connection really are a specialty,
and so it's better just to refer them to somebody
else and you know they can get their help exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So if you do it that way, the end result
is I've got one client who is still doing testimonials
videos for me fifteen years after I worked with her
and the son. This is the thing that if you
put the other person first, they'll always talk about you
and your raising fans. But if you just try and
get that money out of them to give them a
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service that somebody else could better deliver, then that doesn't
help your reputation, and your reputation is your business.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yes it is. I completely agree with you. Now let's
talk about the rapid trade profiling. Where can it be
used everywhere?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
The simple answer, Now, I can look at a young
child and see the traits have been passed down for
the parents. So what we call them nature traits, and
I can see a number of gifts in a newborn,
things like music traits, things like that. Before they go
to school, we know what type of school will suit them.
We know what hobbies and sports will suit them, before
they pick their final subjects. We also know what careers
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will suit them, so then we can help them guide
them to do the right subjects because how many people
go to university end up with one or two degrees
and never use them because they go into that work
and go this is not for me, and so the
going to result them from there? It's okay, How do
we find the right partner? First of all, what am I?
It's not just what does a person look like, but
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it's a case of what do I want in my relationship?
What sort of a relationship do I want? And then
we can then realize what sort of person would be
that personal partner? Once we've got the partner, how do
we keep the partner in the workplace. You've got into
the job that you love doing. The employee's going to
be happier at what they're doing, So they're going to go.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Home and they're going to be happier.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
There's less arguments with their spouse, better relationships with their kids.
And at the same time, the employer is going to
make more money. If the company makes more money, that
person's assured at their job as well. Because we actually
have a contract with the people that we're working for
and all the people who are working for us, we
support each other. The workers, create work with the clients,
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make sure everything's happy. We make a lot of money
we're able to then pay then we keep the business going.
This is how we get our security. It's not by
just going getting a job that's paying good. It's a
job matter of having a relationship with the owners of
the business so that we then have that take place
where we can go to work every day. I feel
comfortable and make money, and they make money and survive
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into the future.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, everyone is productive when everything serves each other and
help each other out. So that's the whole point. You
want you want relationships, whether it's in business or personal life,
there are cost symbiotic in the way, so they really,
you know, enjoy your life other way friction, that's it,
(15:32):
and that will bring you emotionally exactly bental on physical issues.
So I can futly agree with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, Well, if you want to work on your business,
that's a catch cror. They go and work on your business, Well,
you can't do that unless you've got the right people
working in your business for you. If they feel that
they're value, they contribute, that they have a place, et cetera,
they will want to be there at the beginning of
the week and they'll be in working all the way
through the week. You can go and then work on
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your business, even go on holidays. And that was the
old statement of a true business person with somebody who
hired people who do the work that they couldn't do
or didn't want to do, so they could go on holidays,
and while they were anything on the holidays, the company
not only survives, but it grows in their absence. And
the only way that happens is when the people you've
got in your organization are so invested in the work.
(16:25):
They talk about build your relationships, empower people and all
the rest of it. They talk about authority, but it's
not authority you give your client, your workers. It's the
authority that they assume themselves and they go, right, I've
got this responsibility. I got this authority to make sure
that this company grows because this is my likelihood as well.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
It becomes a partnership.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yes, exactly, it does. Now, so this is going to
benefit people to have these skills because they'll be more
productive in the workplace and as well as better relationships.
Can you give us them examples of what where are
this is helf both in business and personal life? Now
(17:05):
you kind of did that already. We're talking about business.
Else in the personal life other than reducing friction.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well, there is I've got I mentioned before one of
my clients who is doing testimonial was still fifteen years later.
She's holding the record at the moment, and a lot
of others who have been ten years or so. But
I profiled her son when he was six years old.
He has Asperger. School didn't want him. After school's kid
didn't want him. They were pushing to have him heavily medicated.
The psychologist said he'd need a care for the rest
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of his life. I profiled him, and by the way,
I did it from five photographs because he wouldn't sit
still for me. So she took the photographs and sent
them to me because I'm looking at the facial features,
not the expressions or anything. And I gave her a
written report that she took to the school, playing the
school against the after school's care, telling both of them
that the others were doing it and if they didn't
have a fail, so they put it in place. A
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year later, he was doing presentations in front of the class.
Another year later, they let the psychologists go with the
doctor's approval. Medication was off the table the last I heard.
Now he's twenty one, living in Queensland on his own,
got his own place, got a girl friend, paying his
own bills, and he's now an assistant manager in a nightclub,
which never would have happened if he'd been medicated all
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that way through. All they had to do was change
the way they spoke to him, which changed his environment.
And if a child is happier, they're not going to
need that medication. He's not going to be triggered, and
that made the change there. In business, I had a
visiting a buildup who quoted on the building worth two
million dollars as he's quote. The clients wouldn't go above
one point six million. The deal was falling off the table.
(18:40):
I got them to He gave me the base on
one of LinkedIn the other partner on Google Search. I
profiled both of them, told him how to change the
way he was talking to them. The end result in
that conversation he added another one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars to his original quote and sign him off on it.
So that's how effective it can be in sales, but
in your own personal development. I heard business coach over
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in Perth who sent me his five photographs. He was
doing a short course, a three step program wherever he
did a short course online. I did his profile and
then we got together and looked at some of the
people he wanted to build better relationships with.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
How to do that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
But what he told me after I send him a
forty five minute audio on his profile, That's when he
told me he used to be an undercover an arcotics
agent for two decades before he went into the role
of being a business coach. And the business coaching he's
doing today is training the leadership of the ESAPS in
the military and so. But what he said he used
skills that he believed were ninety five percent accurate in
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his previous role.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
He said they hadn't been, he wouldn't be alive today.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
But what I put in that forty five minute audio
not only matched, but nuanced everything you learned about himself
in those two decades. So understanding yourself first of all,
knowing how to find the right partner, knowing how to
raise your children up, how to find the right job.
There's no aspect of life where you can't use it,
use it even just in your own personal development, without
even talking to anybody else. Your upside of your traits,
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you know the downside of your traits. You know what
triggers you when you get stressed. The upside tells us
what we should go and do with your careers. The
downside tells us what environments we should stay away from.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, this was all about Yeah, that makes life a
lot easier, doesn't It.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Does, because once you understand this is where your stuff
really comes in, getting into that mindset and everything else.
This is why what you do and I do just
blend so beautifully together. And while I'm looking forward to
doing things with you into the future.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, that's gonna be a lot of fun when we do. Now,
I got to say that, you know, with my mindset coaching,
I do help people recognize that they're in a certain
state and what to do to police being in that state,
and to also remember and stop it in the future.
And what's really important. I've learned that for myself and
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it's really helped me strength in my mind. So I
didn't really go through my intro too well, but pretty
much I had in mind and health, you know, mindset
and health, you know, transformation. I became more aware of
having to become home healthier, and then later on I became
more aware of having starting mindset and it was a
journey for me, but I am so happy I went
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through that and learned all these things different people, and
I kind of collaborated it from my own because it's
easier to communicate that for people. And so I really
enjoy helping people to you know, creating a new lifestyle
from themselves really, you know, being putting themselves out there
as a better person and enjoying life because that's what
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we're here to do is enjoy life, and too many
people just get so overwhelmed either by stress or emotions,
and emotions can drive stress, and then stress can trickle
the emotions. So my whole point is is that you
need to be aware of this, that you slow it
down and you know one's perfect, but at least you know, Louis,
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it prevent it from happening again. And it's definitely a
growing moment for everybody and.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Something we need to go through.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Because I love the fact of what you're just talking about,
having gone through this stuff yourself and therefore taking your
experience and teaching others and the passion in doing that.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
That's what drives me as well.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
When we looked at the upside of the downside of
the trades, the first thing I had to do is
understand me. Once I understood that, I knew where my
gifts and strengths were, but I also knew where the
downside of my trades were. And as I said, I
went through to devices a lot of break relationships, and
once I knew the downside of my trades, I went, Okay,
now I know the part I played in those relationships.
(22:42):
This is the thing we have to look at ourselves first. Yes,
this is why I love about what you do and
what I do. It just blends so well together in
making sure that we understand ourselves first of all, and
then we can go and help other people.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, because a lot of the stuff just brings up
anxiety when it comes to relationships. Is she thinking this way?
Is she thinking that way? Even though you read faces,
no one's really a mind reader, you know what I mean.
You can probably predict how someone's going to react, but
you know it's best not to dwell on things over thanks,
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and and you know it's in this day's technology with
text messaging and things like that, don't read between the
lines because that's going to.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Get you know, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
When I give talks, I quite often walk out on
stage and the first question I ask everybody is who
here has ever wanted to read minds? And all the
hands go up and go okay, who would like to
know what their spouse is thinking? And the rest of
their hands go up, and I go, well so would I.
Nobody can do that, but I can teach you the
next best thing. So we always start off with a
bit of.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Fun, exactly because you know, people get frustrated, well, how
come I can't read minds? Well, you know, some people,
you know, even energy healers, they're being a field around
you to get a feeling for what you're like. They're
kind of surveying your emotions so much what you're doing.
But you're looking at traits that you teach people because
(24:07):
it's something that's observable, teachable, and makes it really easy
for you to have conversations with people that you've learned from,
you know, gotten some principles from Arthur Adler, and like
you said, and like I said in the entry, and
the information you gave me, it just makes it a
lot more practical for the everyday person.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Understand Today everything's about, you know, how do we move forward?
Et cetera. We had Carl. There was Freud first of all,
who diagnosed everything. That's where our psychologists and psychiatrist started.
And that's why you spend a long time in therapy
going over the same stuff, and you wonder why you
ever move, Hey, you move forward. And then we had
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Carl Jung who was all about the archetypes and exploring,
and then we had Adler, who was all about how
to empower people, and I love the catch cry that
came back recently from the said to me was Freud diagnosed?
Jung explored, add the ri empowered and Alan Stevens delivers.
(25:08):
So I've taken what he's been teaching people for all
that time back then, because O're all contemporaries around the
same time in the nineteen thirties, et cetera. And the
end result was that my journey has started with Carl
Jung's barrier, with Myers Briggs and disprofiling and.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But I realized all the drawbacks with those with the
self reporting, that you had to take that side out
with mine.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
There's no self reporting.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
If I look at somebody in this situation, I know
how they're going to behave you put them in that situation,
I know are going to behave there. It's dynamic. Once
you read a person, you can answer any question around them.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, self reporting is kind of interesting. Self reporting is
what the person is reflecting amon themselves. That's it, And
is it really truthful? And I go into their in
neat sol is it really align with their in next song?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Because what's your emotions in the moment that will have
an impact on it. How you've been interpret the words
in those questions. You know, my interpretation of loyalty in
somebody else's interpretation of loyalty.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Would be completely different.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
So putting it on the words instead of going, well,
who is that person inside? Don't my as Briggs just
put people in boxes. I think, come along and take
them out of the box and treat them as an
individual uniquely different to everybody else on the planet. So
they get to be seen as they really are, who
they are, as we really know you've found out. Earlier
on we talked about the Campfire Project. It's very noble
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to achieve it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, and I think I forgot to tell you, but
the link for the Campfire Project, that's bimly that oh
I for us, I ask the Campfire Project. But yeah,
the Campfire Project. You know, you're using that behavioral model
to help people you know, you know, really share their stories.
And that is such a great thing to do because
(26:51):
it gets that angst and the feeling, desensitizes the emotions
from what's going on because they're no longer so tight.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah, that's the power of the profile in that because
those people were saying, I can't talk about what I've
been through. They hadn't told anybody before in their lives,
their partners, as their counselors, as psychologists, et cetera. And
within five minutes they're opening up and telling me the
whole story, and they're talking along the way, and that
for anything up to an hour without interruption, and at
(27:20):
the end of it they've said, well, that's.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
The best therapy I've ever had.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I said, well, if you enjoyed that, and get
off the call and go and thank the therapist by
looking in the mirror and thanking yourself because you finally
opened up. But it was being able to read people
that helped them to open up so effectively. I feel
really grateful to have those people who have come along
and trusted me to do that. But that's the power
of being able to recognize someone's personality and talk to
them in the way that they need and want to
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be spoken to, and you get instant report it's going
to ride on the spot.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well, you're opening up their soul too if you think
about it, because you're opening up. Oh, I'm okay, I
can keep it at least alan right now, probably do
better in the future. So that's my whole point, it's
like you're uplifting their spirit, You're uplifting their emotional vibration
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into more joy more. Oh, I'm okay, I this is
you know, I'm going to be okay. And you know
I don't have a chip on my shoulder anymore. And
because a lot of people just you know, I hate
to say this, the medical community has a really hard
time with putting labels on people. And then people like, oh,
the label is sticking, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
(28:30):
you can rip that label off. Most of them labels
are given to people to get some kind of medical
treatment or services, you know, especially and similar labels have
changed over the years. But the whole point is they
don't really fit everybody, especially in the spectrum. It's like
thirty one thirty one flavors of you know, spectrum. Everybody
(28:52):
may have one label that they are completely different. They
made me a mixed match between all you know else
burgers and ADHD or or a d D or whatever.
Or they may be dyslexic and and and they're also
alsourcause my whole point, all these people are people, and
they have remarkable capabilities to do really special things in
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their life, especially the asburgers they are. If they really
have a high IQ, they can give back to society
and be able to I mean and grow businesses. Just
for for example, you know, Richard Branson is dyslexic, okay,
and he talks about neurodiversity and being you know, being
(29:40):
such a great asset assets. And the whole thing is
is that these people can focus, They have stay in concentration.
They are related to data analysis, and they can really
bring up, you know, really realization for company.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Every last one of them have got a gift.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
That's the thing that we don't realize because our main
thing is to get them into this education system we've
got which has put him in a box. And that was,
let's face, it was designed to get far off to
the factories. It was teachers get off the property of
the land and go and work in a factory. It
hasn't changed over all those decades and the centuries at
that point, and so we losing the gift that these
(30:27):
people can bring to the table. If we can recognize
the gift they've got and develop that help to nurture it,
because as I said, our job as parents is not
to be sculptors or carpenters and turn our kids into something.
We're gardeners. Our job is to nurture them into the
best version of themselves. So if we set the system
up so that that can happen, we'd be having more
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kids coming out of school, going into careers and really
expanding and doing things. Because people like Richard Branson and
all the other people with those conditions struggled all the
way through.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
As I said, with young.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Jack, that young boy that I worked with, and that
was just one profile. Here you go pair the mother,
this is how you talk to them, This is how
you get the school to talk to him, and almost
immediately things have changed. At the same time, I've done
this with school teachers and parents around the world, and
in every case they've found the child's behavior has improved,
the child has been happier, their academic levels have gone up,
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and even when they've changed schools, going through there from
middle school, elementary school, middle school, et cetera. I think
that's the system that you have over there. We have
the preschool, primary school, etc. Into secondary school. As they
go through from those different levels from one school to another,
their behavior and their academic levels continue to increase because
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the people who understand them know how to talk to them.
If I can get on stage and have an audience
of hundreds of people and look at each person and
talk to each one in the way that they need
to be spoken to, and get a full connection with
every one of them, why can't a teacher do it
with twenty thirty children. This is the If they did that,
they wouldn't have the problems they got in the classroom.
(32:03):
They wouldn't had the turnover of teachers that we have today,
we wouldn't have the mental health issues that we have.
And by the way, everybody, I don't care who they are,
including me and you, we are all on the mental
health scale. We're lucky we're at the good end, but
some people are down the other. But we travel backwards
and forwards. You get up one morning, you've got a
really bad attitude to the world, You've stubbed your toe
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and all the rest of it. Somebody looks at you
the wrong way and we respond, you know, the way
you looked at me was a funny color type thing.
And we have a go at them, and then that
builds up.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
We have a bad day.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Another day, we get up we're happy. So once we
start to realize that we can then have more empathy
and understanding. But those who have been labeled with those
conditions go, Okay, how do we now help you to
be the best version of yourself so that you thrive
and you're happy. Let's change the system. That's what I
do with parents and school teachers.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, that's so important because you know, to a lot
of people and I'm like, what really is normal? There
is no normal. My son used to watch Sponge and
something that's really funny, bungebobs, you know, unnormal. Well, he
has no more sponge, he has no normal, normal spores,
no more whatever. He's talking like, and I am He's
(33:20):
talking really slowly. I'm I want to be I am normal. Now.
That is such a decoloration personality, if you get my point.
Everybody has their own spark, everybody has their own personality,
emotional base and everything else. And like you said, we
have our difficult times, but it's the way we rebound
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from them, and we can teach others to rebound from
them better. That's the whole thing, you know, Because we're
here to enjoy life and we're here for a purpose.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
You're just saying that about there's no normal. The Air
Force found that out. They decided they do dine because
cockpits are tight in a fighter plane. So what they
would actually do is they decided to design a seat
that would fit the normal person. Once they designed it,
they couldn't find anybody who would actually.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Fit it themself. There was no such thing as normal.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, there isn't.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
We're just a wide range of different varieties. And the
beautiful part of it is that it's the differences where
we create our teams, and that would people don't realize.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, everyone's unique. Everyone has their own finger print help
and that's what we are a personality wise as well.
So gosh, we have more time to look about your
offer and everything else the way, don't we go ahead
to get to your offer. So tell us a lot
about your offer.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Okay, Well, that particular course, it's a short course. It's
only twenty eight minutes in time, so anybody says they
haven't got time to do it. But it's also cut
up into small modules. The shortest video twenty eight seconds.
The whole idea is I don't like spending a lot
of time talking about stuff. I want to get people
to the results as fast as possible. It will give
them a number of traits, about three traits that then
(35:10):
go out and test for themselves. This is why I
introduced what I Do. I always said that when I
was growing up. My mother used to have the term
that you always say, the proof of the pudding is
in the eating, no matter how good the chef talks,
what does it taste like when it's actually finished. So
this is an opportunity for people to find out exactly
what they can face readings about, to test it for themselves,
(35:31):
go out and improve some relationships before they do anything else.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And then from there it does talk.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
About some of the other people I've worked with, some
of the courses that are available, and then people can go, Okay,
this is what I need in my life. Then they
can look at the next level they want to go to.
Always give first, okay.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And the course is called how to Persuade the Influence
Behaviors of Others Now ex it And you know some
people take persuade as something you know on the negative side,
But what you're doing is it just just learning how
to communicate better so that you relate to people better exactly,
And so you get to h T T P S
Colin force us for set store dot Allen Stephens and
(36:10):
he spelled the name A L A N D and
Stephens is actually spelled s T e v E S
dot com dot a U for sush free. So people
don't spell your name right wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Always say the people Allan is I L I N
because of not too el's because my family wasn't reaching
up to buy the second L.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
So it's just one L.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
That's that's really cute. I never heard of that one.
So we've been kind of hitting throughout this about our
throughout our podcasts, but we have a announcement. We have
actually have a collaboration coming up, so we can bring
up the next line and our collaboration it's called The
(36:51):
Face Reveals the Mind Transforms. And my topic is Debbie
Walk and master your mind and transform your life and
pretty much I'm going to help you recognize emotions express
and where it does to your body physically emotionally and
how to release it. And I also have other programs
(37:11):
after that to delve into to get into more and
Alan talk about your topic.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Well, unlocking the secret language of the face, where you're
going to help them through those emotions. I help them
to read those emotions in other people as well, how
to actually make those better connections. For starting off first
of all, how the facial features work, what they learn
from that, then how to talk to the person. So
it starts off with know yourself, be able to read
(37:37):
the other person, and then be able to change the
way that you like to be spoken to the match
the way that they need to be spoken to to
build that rapport. And that's what we'll be going through.
It blends beautifully with what you're bringing to the table
as well.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, because it's going to be able to make the
people more powerful and communication and understand my emotions visually
as well. What do you think about it? And tonality?
So this webinar will be a live webinar on Wednesday,
October twenty second a second at seven pm Pacific. You
will you can register it once I get the landing
(38:13):
page complete and I will give the link out. So
if you want the link, just you know, please either
put type link in a comment on my YouTube channel
and go to my LinkedIn LinkedIn tree and go to
just say that you want the link. You also find
me on LinkedIn and I will send you the link
(38:34):
and I'm being announcing this next on my next podcast
as well, so you don't want to miss this. This
is such a valuable collaboration to understand your emotions and
what it does, as well as how to recognize it,
even you know with his traits profiling, because he's going
(38:54):
to have you recognize it visually as well. Mine is
more feeling babe.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
But we'll see that blend.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
But if you're in Australia then it's or in the
Southern Hemisphere where I am. It's going to be the Thursday.
It will be at one pm. We'll be in daylight
saving that here in New South Wales. If they turn
up on the twenty second in Australia, it'll be a
diar early that would show how keen you are.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, you can still use the languamin though we should
early and we're gonna have I'm gonna have a downloadable
you know, log guide offer and Alan, I don't know
what he's going to happen. We're gonna have the opportunities
where you can you know, do things with us. So
thank you for being my guest today. You have a
wonderful offer for my podcast and a wonderful collaboration we're
(39:39):
gonna be doing, so please stick around for closer anymore, okay,
and we'll have more time at think. So remember I
do revialize people's lives and many different areas of health
and myself. I do help you with your gut and
mindset first, but I also help you with blood, sugar burn,
and joint brand and heart community and horn. I have
(40:01):
a lot of people that work with me. You know,
have anxiety, and I also need to work with athletes
because I became an half marathon when I never I
ram my whole entire life and pretty much I've guide
you with clean toxic refuse and high quality essential nutrients
that reduce symptoms. You'll feel better, it's gonna it's going
to make you uplift your mood as well as you know.
You may even release weight if that's what you needed.
(40:23):
With my mindset coaching, I help you release that stress,
release those emotions, those entanglements to the past. And I'm
guiding you to reshape your core beliefs, which is really important.
Let go of some some things because everything is possible.
So you know your mindset will be enhanced with my
health organization and weight relief. Your body is going to
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(40:45):
make your heart and soul sing. Ask me about my
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And there you get to know me. I get to
know you and I'll guide you to your optimal health.
(41:07):
And it begins with some health assessments. The first one
is the health evaluation where you rate your systems. I'll
last thirty days and four categories of health and some
questions overlap. Ask them all. You get a baseline score.
I'll review with you and if when you move forward
with my services, I'll create that custom natural holsy strategy
(41:28):
unique to you and we will monitor, you know, monitor
it on a monthly basis. And I also have two
different Zido body scans. I prefer to design as a
zero link because I can send it remotely and internationally
send it out to Australia and South Africa. And what
the zero is is a transdermal optical imaging app. I
(41:50):
send a link to your phone. You scan your face
for thirty seconds. It's only going three year skin to
look at blow flow for coconas of energetic, functional, emotional,
and different body systems and lifestyles. And the emotional component
is such a hidden gem because emotions do affect your
health with your organs as as well as your mental
(42:11):
it's mental thinking and it creates a wellness report, not
a diagnosis of biomarkers at arrange and products of services
of bringback and to range. It's quite intensive, so I
do review it with you. The Cosmo scan is seventy
five dollars. When you move forward with a programmed product,
I give you a twenty five dollars discount on one
of them. Now. The zero link is that Transfermal Optical
(42:34):
Imaging app also known as TOOI is quite accurate and
you can look up as accuracy on puffmat dot gop as,
pub dot pub med dot gov and find out more
about it now. I also have a package of five
scans called the Family Path that you can say fifty dollars. Now,
(42:54):
when people actually take the scan, they're really amaze what
their body tells them, and you'll be too curious either.
You can ask me questions on my consultation, or you
can go ahead and do the Sido scan, the Israeli
Excido scan and see what they're talking about. And also
on the same website are my programs Take your Body
Back as a twelve week wait release mindset coaching program
(43:16):
where you're going to utilize a new version of you
to drive you to success. All coaching is done on
Zoom and the first one is profit to you. I
am a certified ballistic health coach that's hit that compliant,
So the first meeting is always private to you because
I go over your health analysis. I give you a
choice between two meal plans, directions on one and instructions
(43:38):
how to create that new version of you that's going
to drive you with emotion and passion, chief your health
and way transformational goals throughout your journey, and the rest
of coaching, whether it's group or private, is the same.
Will be celebrating your wins. I'll be guiding you over
gaps with health and mindset tips and utilizing your bores
and showing you how to do that. You will become
a new you. You can ask meach on my consultation
(44:01):
or watch a previous apode holistic self live on my
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(44:22):
cells reduce This information gives me mental clarity here you
would ask me questions and if you're think you need
some coaching, there's a two or four year program to
get you going, and it's up to you who want
to pay for more. You can use these smaller programs
for mind enhancement as well as health allizations, but truly
those are the longer term journeys and the bigger programs
by BET are suited. I can also create a custom
program for you. I still have Debies coaching chats, which
(44:44):
is the m group setting coaching session for thirty minutes
and it's not recorded. You can read this life for
the topics that get selected. These meetings are at four
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(45:05):
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(45:27):
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(45:48):
health and mindset awareness tool. I'm certain that you found
the show educational ie opening and enjoyed it. Reach out
to me for my services, products, offers and programs. Reach
out to Ellen for services that offers, and reach out
to us for our collaboration and join us. And that's
on October twenty second, seven pm Pacific and ask me
(46:11):
for the link. You'll see it in the next podcast
coming forward. So do we have time for Ellen to
come back?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Thanks very much, there's so much there you've got to
offer people I love listen to.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (46:23):
They? Oh, thank you? And you know, this collaboration we're
doing is going to help so many people to understand
themselves so much better and be more productive in life.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
And that's it, and that's what life is all about.
To get the best out of out of life. And
to do that, it's a connection that we have with ourselves,
but also the connection we have with others.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Perfectly said, So continue enjoy my radio and TV show
on Thursdays at three pm cific six pm Eastern, where
your holistic journey begins. Go.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
I think after at the.
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After girl after girl, after, the after, the after, the
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