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there on a regular basis. Now into the program tonight,
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a story that caught my attention first of all, leaning
me down the rabbit hole of this subject tonight, is
booking a trip for your significant other really hotter than
for play? Lindsey Rogers writes this an inside hook and
reveals it. There's a new survey saying that competence specifically
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planning a trip is sexier than a good body or
a big paycheck. So you know where I'm going to
go with this. Booking dot Com put on new research.
They served one thousand respondents. They spoke of American women,
and ninety three percent of them say having their partner
to take the reins on trip planning is a major
turn on, more tracking than a good physique or a
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bigger paycheck, And fifty six percent say their partner booking
a trip is just as arousing, if not more than
four play Take that one more time. So now, social
media society has many at a point that love is
not enough. It's being made very clear if you are
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buying into the zeitgeist that is dating in today's society
and you are getting caught up in what modern dating
is with modern independent women. For those of you that
are not getting caught up on this, well put it
like this. If we're going to have women say that
they're more attracted to you booking a trip, more than
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you being in shape, or more than your income, then
you know what, you might as well go ahead and
start booking your own trips and become passport bros. Because
why are you going to go ahead and do all that?
It still is materialistic, it's still transactional. I mean, the
thing is, if you're going to go ahead and take
a girl on a trip, you want to make sure
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that I think in part that the one you're going
to go and take a trip with you, you know
what is she going to want to do with that trip?
And I think the other question that wasn't even asked
was where is the trip going to be? It can't
just be any place. It's like you're not going to
you know, Alaska or going to Siberia. I mean, are
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we talking about sight seeing. Are we talking about points
of adventure where there's great food, great culture. Are we
talking about tropical destinations? I don't know, but there's a
lot of that going on. And we also are going
to take a look at where if we are going
to buy into this concept here, guys, where are they
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wanting to go? Because we have to go into that
part too, because that's the other question that's going to
be asked. Now back to the story. It's entirely possible
that if the woman is the default planner, it's because
she refuses the relink of his control or simply enjoys
the process. Now, lindsay here, the writer in this Inside
Hook article says her fiance hasn't planned a single getaway
in the six years together because while I can certainly
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see the appeal, I want to be at the helm.
So stay in your respective lanes. But then the question
about how women could say that the effort of booking
a trip is sexier than four play, why are more
men seeing making said effort, Because if it's not including sex,
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what is the benefit? Oh, so we're gonna go ahead
and spend money to have sex, possibly in some other hotel,
in some other place and some tropical destination. I mean,
we're spending a lot of money, they're going to have
sexual escapade. I guess that's what she's saying right here.
So a lot of them generally enjoy travel. So when
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and why should the burden of planning and fall entirely
on the woman. IF's not as if we're asking partners
to schedule dental surgery. It's travel is something both people enjoy.
It stays the reason that planning could be now if
you are both into it. And it's like if you
just want to go take a trip just to take
a trip, Okay, fine, you're doing this, you know, and
you're in your honeymoon stage, you're married, or you're you
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know again engaged, or you're in a long term relationship,
and you're just okay, we want to take trips where
we can. Fine. And then in this study they also
say that eighty nine percent of men say they should
take they could take more initiative and planning trips for
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their partners. Well, that's the part where you want to
be in control of the trip because you want to
make sure that you're not getting yourself caught in some
trip that's going to go and put your way out
of pocket and be something that you're gonna go off
and do because you're not gonna care. Like, Okay, going
to Paris, I don't see much of the benefit for me.
Like Okay, if a girl wants to go shopping, go
see art, go this to that, I can see it.
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But like that's how much is itverer for a guy
to enjoy about that? Tavy to London? That might be
a different story because there's a lot of things go
and do you know there's there's there's a lot there
depending on where you want to go. So like a
European ship, I can see there's certain things to look
at that might you know, resonate one with others. But yeah,
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and a report by Psychology Today also reported on this
last spring that traveling with your partner boosts relationship satisfaction,
increases romantic passion, leads to more physical intimacy, among other benefits.
So that's I mean, listen, if it's under the proper reasoning,
I can see where that makes sense. But the thing
is for this Booking dot Com survey to point out
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the women does it turn you on? If your boyfriend,
your fiance, your husband wants to go ahead and take
the initiative on booking a trip for both of you,
the excitement of it. And she's saying here that in
this article they doesn't even have to be an elaborate, expensive,
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passport standing odyssey. And she said that with her fiance,
she's taken quick, close to home escapes and you haven't
sort of taking the lead on the lead on trip planning.
She'd probably be ecstatic with just that much effort. But
that's the part. Now, the other part of this survey
says that two thirds of men say they'd be more
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likely to plan a trip if they knew physical intimacy
was evolved. If you are lacking physical intimacy and you
need to book a trip to spice things up, that's
a red flag. And then they also go on to
say that women saying trip planning it the major turn on,
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Then maybe it isn't about initiative. Maybe it is actually
the foreplay. So now let's go ahead move along into
where women would like to go for traveling, because the
other aspect of all this is that women are turned
off by travel, regardless if you are the one doing
the booking. Guys, women just want to go traveling anyway
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because social media has opened them up and then they think, well,
look at all the things we can go do and
where we can go. So the board dot org actually
wrote a story about women going order whide, the Rise
of the Solo Female Traveler, and Anna Dickens writes this
story and talk about that she took a solo trip
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to London recently and she wanted to successfully navigate around
central London on the Circle Line with nobody else to
fall back on if it all went ari And in
the last couple of years she says that UK travel
companies have seen a rise in bookings for solo trips.
To our operation Voyages, Jules Verne reports a solo travelers
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accounted for most half of its bookings and seventy percent
of those bookies in twenty twenty three were women, and
Joanna Reva Intrepid Travel, another tour operator, said that sixty
two percent of our solo bookies were made about women,
most in the forty five to sixty eight range by themselves.
I mean, are they you know, childless cat ladies. I'm
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not gonna go into that part, but like I'm just
saying for women to go ahead and say, okay, We're
going to go into the travel for ourselves and just
think the movie Under the Tuscan Sun. If anybody knows
that movie was Diane Lane, wasn't it. You know, that's
kind of like that idea. And I'm sure there's other
movies like what is the other one? Letters to Juliette,
is that the one that Amanti sided for you was
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that was again tripped to overseas somewhere, same idea. We've
seen those kind of movies out there and they all
talk about it. Right. So she goes on to say
that in a ward war society portrays women's lives is
going downhill beyond thirty. It's refreshing to see so many
older women prioritizing fun and their own fun at that.
There's a recent you Go survey of that results that
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two in five women who work full time and have
a partner say that household tasks fall mostly on them.
Two and five women don I'm not sure where to go.
I mean, that's yeah, you know, that's really interesting there, Okay,
and then as compared to just nine percent of men
in the same situation, no wonder that our hard working
mothers wanted to do something for themselves for a change,
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and they go on to say that solo travel is
a way for women to leave all familial and societal
pressures behind and rediscover the parts of themselves to get
lost and caring for others. Now, normally this kind of
aspect goes on when you have a woman that is
in her late teens, twenties, early thirties. Before they settle down,
they go have their adventure face. So that's when the
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trips go on like that. But for these older women, Yeah,
when everyone else in your group, you might have gone
on trips with the girls, and okay, girls trip this
and that, right, but we're talking about women that they
don't have anybody else to go ahead and go with that.
Maybe all the friends they have that might be able
to go with them, they're all married, they're all taken,
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they're all settled down, and this one cougar or puma
or whatever it is, decides to go make the trip
for themselves and hopefully that, you know, being this mature
American woman going out traveling, might get the chance to
go ahead and have a little sex, get pay with
some young European you know, Latin American or whatever. Like
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kind of tourists they get together with. They can just
be that tourist that maybe they'll get some fun out there.
Something a little spicy happens while they're out there, and hey,
what happens there stays there? Right. Then they go on
to ask why do so many women go solo? And
the story they talk about that safety finances are not
the greatest concern when I'm on holiday, But these are
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very concerns. Women crave a cheeky escape. As we become
among mothers, becomes second nature to prioritize our children, our
husband and the family, and soul travels away for women
to leave all those pressures behind. We discover the parts
of themselves and get lost in caring for others. And
women are increasingly denouncing the notion that our lives stop
being exciting after thirty. No, it just should be a change.
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I mean it's for guys as well. I mean, want
to guess guys could be different. We can kind of still,
you know, go around and be philandering wherever we want,
at whatever age, if we're not settled down, if we
just don't find anyone, whatever it is. But for women
to go in that same route, it's really amazing to
go and see that more on this. As they said
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they is a sole travel predicative of women is surging
often offering unparallel freedom and self discovery. And they talk
about old women need to go and you know, think
about their safety and a smooth experience. The rewards of
a trip will boost your confidence and independence, but there
are challenges like lonliness and safety concerns That nesssitate careful
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preparation awareness. And in India they talk about there in
twenty twenty three and twenty twenty five, between those years
there's been one hundred and thirty five percent rise in
solo women travelers in India. And this is another part.
This is from Intra City SmartBus grand View Research. This
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is an astonishing stat. Seventy five to eighty four percent
of all solo travelers today are women. Let me read
that again. Seventy five to eighty four percent of all
solo travelers today are women. No one to go with
just going out and just enjoying themselves, which is fine,
but like, okay, what's the whole deal with always all
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of them going on their own? Wow? So what are
they doing? They're planning for their trips. They talk to
a couple different women here about this story. One twenty
seven year old experience solo traveler says, when I go
solo traveling, I have everything planned down to the team
helps understanding the place I am visiting before I get there.
I do that stuff. I'm super planning trips when I
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do that, reading months ahead to try to go, and
I'm basically overthinking about what can I say. According to
a study publishing the research platform at Science Direct, neighborhoods
with higher social activity offer a great sense of security.
Hostels or shared accommodations can provide a security for first
time travelers, especially women. But take care of your belongings.
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Another twenty seven year old solo traveler says that staying
aware of your surroundings, keeping valuable safe, using chester transport,
and carrying money at separate bags is important. And when
they recommend where you should go to travel solo, they
say you can go to places that are very safe
with strong safety records. They recommend Iceland, Austria, in New
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England and Singapore among others. Well don't get caned, and
they also say to good and stay in central locations
will have popular airitea censure, easy access to transportation, restaurants,
and medical facilities, keep in touch with family and friends,
share a itenerary use, trust in accommodation by researching reviews,
safety ratings, and inclusivity among those different areas. And why
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is it that women are willing to go and say, well,
we're just gonna go ahead and travel ourselves. I think
there's part of that independence. It's like I can do
what I want and now we're gonna just make sure
that the feminist model goes in a full play. I
can go where I want. And that's what it comes
down to as well. If they want to find people
that are going to absolutely appreciate their beauty as easy
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fit or the way they look and what they do
that obviously anyone foreign is going to perceive someone American
in a different way, and that's the different appeal of it.
So for the women, they go to these other foreign
countries and go out of country to go ahead and
be seen differently and to be seen as unique and
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be desired by other men out there, or just be
desired and a general just seeing something different that's gonna
feel like, well, they're gonna feel as a tourist, they're
gonna be appreciated and looked at in a different light.
And that's what it comes down to. Another story, going
along with the same idea that we talked a few
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weeks ago about the whole deal from the British Folk
article about boyfriends being embarrassing, Well there was an obed
that came out the gun and Fall along with it
saying we're the alpha singles. Here's why boyfriends are embarrassing
and they say it's a truth universally acknowledged. A single
woman in possession of a good fortune doesn't want a man,
and she does have one, she definitely won't talk about him.
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And this lady named Jane Mulcairn's talks about why couples
are so last century. Now there's the other part we
got to talk about as well, that for the modern
independent women. I mean, you think about the kind of
money they spend on themselves. Why sometimes they struggle, remember
we talked about that on the program, Struggling to pay rent,
struggling to pay bills and maintain the lifestyle they want.
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And part of the lifestyle is it not just getting
all the beauty products they want, not just the fashion
or the kind of lifestyle they have. When it comes
to where they want to go dine, the cuisine they want,
the way they want their home decorated, designed, all that
and where they want to live and exactly where the
location of where they're going to live is. All that
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is just extra costs. It's not practical, it's not logical.
It's just what a woman wants. It's more emotional. And
in this part, do women really think about how much
you know, a trip's going to cost them and how
much is going to take away from what they're getting?
Can they really do they even bother to budget necessarily?
Maybe not some of them do, but that's something you
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got to think about as well. So now jam o'carrence
writes that everyone is single now and having a boyfriend
is embarrassing and boyfriends are out of style. The script
is shifting. Being partner doesn't affirm your womanhood anymore. It
is no longer considered an achievement, and if anything, it
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becomes more of a reflex to pronounce yourself single, she says,
to which I say, welcome sisters, What took you so long?
As someone who has spent far more of her adult
life straateingly single rather than coasially coupled up. I've long
known that the former is the far cooler status. The
economist announces that a great relationship recession is underway. Among
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America's age twenty three to thirty four, the proportion living
without a partner has doubled the five decades, fifty percent
for men, forty one percent for women, and she says
that the Thinking Person's Periodical noted that Vogue she's talking
about is that we are far more able to live
alone than at any time in the past, to have
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children alone should we wish to, but also that crucially,
women's standards have grown more exacting. Women are better educated,
more financially simble than ever. Men are falling behind, she says,
and for many women, a medical partner no longer seems
a better bet than remaining single. Oh, unless you book
a trip. And she says that even in fact, even
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before boyfriends were declared cringe, in the past year or
two they have spawned reports that single women have given
up dating, single and happy. These women ditch dating, they
have no regrets, and men seem to like make life
for women worse. This is a woman a man hater,
pretty big time. She goes on to say, well, I'm
not looking for a husband, boyfriend or the father of
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my children, and she's forty five years What I want
to say, I still do date. I love flirting, romance, sex, intimacy.
Without them, in fact, the essential part of my soul
shuts down. But I'll also considered abandoning the whole exhausting endeavor.
There's a sort of advice that came out not too
long ago about why women are giving up on sex.
So listening to old women, like the older mature woman
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like this lady Jane here, she is trying to put
the seed of single them to younger women. This is
obviously going to get the ire of young women. They're
going to actually pay attention to her. Now here's what
we're talking about. She's English here, and in the past
few months she had a fleet with a perennial an
old prinally perennially skint but charismatic friend in Berlin this summer.
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Hot had a fun pursued until he suggested the day
before my next visit, i'd be paying for everything, as
he was broke again. A month previously, I went on
several dates with a wildly successful musician, only to discover
heat live in the grimy hovel. He broke off sex
midway to make a bullion a bullion aige from scratch
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from when he forced me to watch Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares
at a laptop while he digested bolionnaise before he could
get back to the matter in hand. So he's a
can break from sex. And then she talked about the
endless toward details of ghosting, breadcrumbing and dig pics that
are the tenious everybody business, everyday business of modern dating.
So yes, there's a definite feeling that women might be
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demanding more and men well, they may not be up
to it. Guys, that's when you go ahead and you know,
say happy trails of those women, because when they are
in this mindset, now it's the point of no return.
That if women might be demanding more and men well
they may not be up to it, then I think
it runs deeper and more sociological with that. Also, the
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guys are wrong, Okay. When she spoke with their psychotherapist,
she said most of the women that she saw on
her Manhattan practice wanted to get married and I have
a family, and we're inturmoil about not having achieved those
goals and I didn't appear to be worried about being
thirty nine years old, single and childless. I wasn't actively
looking for a husband. In fact, you seem to be
very whole person on your own, fulfilled by your job
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and your life. So the psychotherapist is saying, oh, everything's
okay with you. You don't want children, you don't want a husband,
You're okay being single. So she's getting reinforced advice from
the psychotherapist. Is that logical? Is that healthy? I don't know.
Is there anything wrong with that? She asked. I had
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to think, and she I answered. Eventually, she says, I
feel society frequently tells me these aren't the goals and
values to which as a woman to subscribe. It's really okay.
She told me to do the things I want to
do and to feel ambivalent about more traditional through domestic roles.
No one had ever explicitly told that to me before,
and I'm not sure that many psychotherapists I would tell
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you that. The fact you're going to a psychotherapists at
this age, why is that? We don't know? But you know,
inquiring minds want or know. For all, the four ways
of feminism have got us a fair way. Society still
indoctrinates us to heteronormativity, and most crucially, coupled them is
the only round they really happy to and that rejection
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of it risks a future misery, penury, and a house
full of cats. So as I go into the story
about this lady and this psychotherapist she's talking to that's
telling her what she's doing is fine, is healthy, and
it works for her. And she sounds like she's very
grounded and has her feet on the ground, and she
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is of sound mind. So I'm asking ar to tell me, Hey,
what would est Vilar, who I've talked about and reference
to here about the manipulating a man, what would she
say about this particular story. Well, let's take from there
real quick and point that out. She would likely view
the psychotherapist's device as remment of honesty and society she
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is believed is designed to train woman to be parasites.
She would approve the therapist, validating the author's independence that
Vilar argues the traditional female role is one of manipulator,
a woman who ensnares a man to work for her
so she could live a life of relative leisure. But
by telling the author that she's a whole person without
a husband or child. The therapist is effectively telling her
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that she does not need to exploit a man to
have value. Vola Wild likely to view the author as
one of the few women not engaging in the enslavement
of men. Now, I agree with that part. If women
are going to be on their own and they're not
trying to trap a guy and they don't, you know,
if they're to the point where they have abandoned men
altogether and they're just basically sworn them off and they're
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only looking for any sex campaigns that will work for
them or that are transactional, or they're only going to
benefit them, then you know, peace out. So that's the
part of that which is interesting, that she is not
affected by the men and not trying to go and
trap a man. I agree with that part. The other
thing that Ai says is that she would considerable about
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the turmoil of other patients. The therapist mentions that most
women in her practice are in turmoil because they haven't
secured a husband or family. Now, she would say the
women are distressed because they're feeling to secure a slave.
Valar reviews the desire for marriage. It's not as romantic,
but it's economic right. She would argue that these women
are in turmoil because they are being forced to work
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and support themselves rather than succeeding and finding a man
to do it for them. Okay, le me, I understand
that apartment Still, it was something that was still you know,
when I think about you know, the biological dating when
we talk to Timasch Primal Dating the book. If you
haven't gone out looked for it Gray Stocking Stuffer, go
look for it primal dating dot com, by the way.
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And she also probably would agree that society in doctrinates women,
that the therapist agrees of society tells women a couple
them is the only route to real happiness, and Valar
would agree with this, but believes women are the primary
architects of this doctrination, that mothers training their daughters of
view marriage as the ultimate goal because it is the
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most comfortable exist and with smirk of the therapist emitting,
this indoctrination exists, seeing as confirmation in the system is
designed to pressure women into finding a provider. And Vilar
would also likely respect the therapists for giving the author
permission to opt out of the manipulation game, but viewing
the misery those single women mentioned not as a tragedy
of lowliness, but as the frustration of people who cannot
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find someone to pay their bills. Bingo summary says it
right there. I agree that we don't want women if
they're going to just go ass and manipulate us to
get what they want. We don't want that. I think, guys,
we can all be consensus with them. But then the
misery of single women mentioned not as a tragedy of loneliness,
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but frustrating for them because they can't find someone to
pay their bills. And that's the part that's wrong. But
that's what's going on with a single woman, the fact
that they don't want to they don't believe that they
can go ahead and have someone that can compliment them
share the load. I mean, that's the whole too, that
you can find men out there that we've had to
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go ahead and go through four waves of feminism as well,
which means we understand we cannot be the same kind
of guys as before. I mean, we still should be dominant,
we should have some leverage in some cases in the relationship,
but also be behoven and loyal and adore the woman
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that we're with and do whatever it takes to make
them happy to an extent, and the same thing for
the children, because she's the mother of those children. If
that's the case. Now, this lady Jane says, says, here
do I feel lonely? Sometimes? Of course doesn't everyone. Lonness
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is part of the normal range of human emotions. Someone
with joy, sadness, excitement bored them and fear? Is it
ever deep or sustained enough to tempt me to settle
for a bloke shape bulwark to that? No, not yet.
Now They also talk to Katie Glass, saying having a
boyfriend no longer has any social capital. Another middle aged woman,
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but either which way, she says, I'm not sure if
any of my boyfriends and my friends have boyfriends these days.
Some have husband's partners, girlfriends' situationships, even Dom's, But a
boyfriend it sounds so lame. Even when I'm dating, I
don't label anyone my boyfriend as a commitment phobe. Even
a situationship gives me chills. I prefer to keep my
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relationship slow profile, and I'm completely against any form of
PDA physical display of affection, which I consider a gross
active ownership over another person's body. Okay, I would ever
broadcast a partner on Instagram. She refers to the hard
launch of Jennifer Anderson dating a fifty year old hepnotherapist
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named Jim Curtis is insane, and she says, I've never
even posted my fiancee when i was engaged. One friend
tells me she's never posted her husband or even their
wedding now Coultree twenty twenty five. Women is very independent.
We don't need men anymore. We are sick of their shit.
As one friend of hers succinctly put it wow, and
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then the other part I saw here. This was about
a month ago. Why women are giving up on sex
vice Dot Company? The story out there, And they talked
to a twenty nine year old that told the New
York Posts her name is Mandana Tsargami, that she spent
four years without sex after too many disappointing situationships, deleted
dating app, skip dates, use the time of the reset,
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her relationship patterns, saying quote hook them. Culture doesn't benefit
women anyway, It only benefits been And what began is
a one year situationship stretched to four and the first
six months of the year was so incredibly hard as humans,
we threw out a connection and emotional vulnerability, and that
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when young single women are going cettlebate on purpose. The
General Social Surveying reports at Americans age eighteen twenty nine
who went a year without sex double between twenty ten
and twenty twenty four. The Institute for Family Studies sound
that sexlessness among young women rose about half during that
same period. Many of these sea women say they're turning
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away from hookup culture because intimately started feeling like another transaction. Yeah,
all this comes into play, and you know what to
think now, how much more separated men or women are
from even get together finding love. Love is such a
distant thought, not even in the back of their minds anymore.
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For women, it's a shame. No, they don't need love
to be out there. They're not worried about that anymore.
They're not worried about, you know, situationships. They don't want
that either, any kind of attachment emotionally. No, they'd rather
get on a trip, go hook up out there because
it's the prains and de bauchers