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Speaker 1 (00:04):
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
we will explore these topics and so much more with
fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Destination unlimited. Many of us have experienced coincidence and synchronicity,
but when a medical doctor, the former chairman of the
psychiatry department of a major university medical school, recognizes these experiences,
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they become meaningful coincidences. Returning to Destination unlimited. This week,
doctor Bernard Beikman clarifies the relationship between synchronicity and serendipity
and dissects the anatomy of coincidence. He is the first
psychiatrist since Carl Jung to systematize the study of coincidences.
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He's the author of the groundbreaking book Meaningful Coincidences, How
and Why Synchronicity and Serendipity Happen. His website is coincider
dot com, and he joins me this week to share
his work and new book written from his personal synchronosity experience,
Life changing Synchronicities, A doctor's journey of coincidence and serendipity.
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Please join me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited. Doctor
Bernard Bidman, Welcome back, Bernie.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Thank you very much, Victor the Voice.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The last time you joined us was in twenty twenty
two on the publication of your groundbreaking and best selling
book Meaningful Coincidences, How and Why Synchronicity and Serendipity Happen.
For our listeners meeting you for the first time, please
share your early path and the events that led you
to investigate this phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, that book you just mentioned, Meaningful Coincidences, is a
definitive statement about the whole field of synchronicity, attempting to
take a step towards making it more scientific as well
as more usable by people who read it. And I
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got to that because I've had a lot of meaningful
coincidences in my life, and by meaningful coincidences I include
synchronicity and serendipity, among others. And I've had a lot
of those, and the book delineates retells the one I'm
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talking about now today with you, called The Life Changing Synchronicities.
It's a kind of biography or autobiography about my synchronicity experiences.
And the most telling one was the first one because
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it had the most impact on me, and it was
involved my dog, Snapper, and briefly, Snapper got lost. I mean,
he wasn't home when I got home and on my bike,
my mother said, go to the police station, see if
you could find him. They didn't know where he was,
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and I was crying so much. I took the wrong
way home and ran into Snapper. And I needed that
puppy really badly because he was my only good friend,
my best friend. And I just went home and I
found him by getting lost. And that's a key part
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of what I'm trying to tell people and the current
book Life changing Synchronicities, is getting lost, or generally speaking,
doing something out of the ordinary is a good way
to increase meaningful coincidences in your life.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
In addition to that experience with your dog, was there
a synchronicity later on as you were starting to get
into your career that became an AHA moment for you?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Did you read the book?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yes, the book is a moment, but was there a
specific one.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I'm more curious about what you had in mind.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
There are several there are several episodes that you discuss,
and perhaps one of them is the fact that we
can have the human GPS.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, and the human GPS, just like the GPS in
the car can get us to where we need to
be without knowing how we got there. We don't know
how the GPS works. I didn't know how to find Snapper,
but I found him. And it wasn't just me finding Snapper,
he found me. Dogs can get find their masters and
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mistresses in strange ways, just like birds can find their
nesting places and salmon can swim upstream after being a
way out in the ocean. Human beings had that same
capacity to be able to get to where they need
to be without necessarily consciously figuring out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Absolutely, and I've had experiences where I've had knowledge come
to me without any study or source of that knowledge
and helped me through situations.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You give us an example, Victor.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I was working on a piece of equipment, a welding
equipment back in my days when I was in the
welding industry, had never looked at that piece of equipment before,
never opened it up, did not have a schematic for it,
but I knew I just knew which component needed to
be replaced, Yes, and and it worked.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And how do you how do you think about that, victor?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Uh, that knowledge was coming from somewhere.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, and we can talk about where that somewhere is.
And everybody has their own opinion, and some opinions overlap,
but what the important thing is that you needed the information, victory.
That's what's it starts with. Its need is a primary
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driver of creating meaningful coincidences. Because when you're needy, you're
looking around. It's also when you're curious. It's a different
form of looking around, it's still the same idea. As
you get more alert to your environment. And in this case,
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and you're case with that piece of machinery, I'm going
to guess that you had an ability, a kind of
X ray ability to understand that machine in a way
that you hadn't learned but could imagine it, just like
somebody who was working with firefighters can tell the firefighters
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you're not finished yet, there's somebody on the third floor
that's locked in. You've got to go there. It's a
kind of clairvoyance. It's yours as a kind of clairvoyance
in looking into the machine without knowing you're doing it
and being able to see what's missing. And when you
have a need and you believe in yourself somewhat you
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can fulfill it in the way you just did.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
By the same token, that knowledge could be out there
because there are others who were engineers who had done
this work before, who had developed this work, and perhaps
I was tapping into that current of information.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I hope, I hope. I'm glad to bring that up,
because that's very, very important that our minds are not
isolated in our brain. Our minds are connected in what
I call the psychosphere or more specifically, the collective human mind,
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and that information that you were seeking is probably there too. However,
you needed to have a receptor in your own mind
to be able to recognize the schematic drawing that was
that you ran across, so it still required some knowledge
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on your on your side of generally what the problem was,
so that when you saw the answer, you can see
where it fit. And the answer could easily come from
going out into the into the psychosphere or our collective
human mind and finning it. And that's the fun part
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of this is how does the beam of your need
find the answer out there? In the collective human mind.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm going to give you another sharing. I don't think
I shared that with this with you the last time
we spoke. But in nineteen seventy five, I was in
the Air Force. I was stationed in Soul, Korea, and
one morning I woke up and I had a voice
in my head saying, you need to call your mother.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I had communicated with her by letters every month. There
was no indication that anything was wrong, but I had
learned to listen to that voice whenever that voice would
come through. So consequently, I called my mother six thousand
miles away back in New York. And if you recall,
in those days, we had wired telephones with extensions, and
my mother and my sister simultaneously picked up the phone
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and I said, Mom, is there anything wrong? And my
sister exclaimed, ah, oh my god, how did he find out?
And it turned out that she was scheduled for major
surgery the next day. And the voice told me to
tell her that she would have a complete and quick recovery,
that everything would be just fine. She needed to hear
those words from me, and she did have a complete recovery,
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and everything turned out to be just fine. And my
sharing of that information was something that really reinforced it
for her and made her feel much better.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And I did to think about it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
How it happened, How did it happen? Where is that
source six thousand miles away? How did I connect to her?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And how do you answer that? Victor?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And my answer through my experience is that we have this. Well,
if you want to look at quantum physics, they talk
about quantum non locality and quantum entanglement. Where my mind
was right next to her when she was going through
these worries about her surgery, and I was able to
pick up that on that information and respond accordingly.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, thank you. I like asking people their explanations because
I don't like arguing with people about how they explain
these things. That's that's the way you see it, and
you believe it, and that's common what you just said
about quantum. The main problem with quantum is the idea
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of a famous quantum physicists who said, if you if
you know quantum physics, you really don't understand.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't claim to be a physicist nor have a
deep understanding of it other than what I've learned about
quantum nonlocality, and quantum entanglement, and what would you say
my experience was about where would you say it's them from?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, in my book you saw something similar, I hope,
involving me and my father. It was I was choking uncontrollably,
and then I found out the next day, at the
same time, three thousand miles away, my father was choking uncontrollably,
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bleeding into his own throat and dying, choking on his
own blood. So I could pick up what was going
on with him three thousand miles a.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Well, But again from a source standpoint, if we don't
look at the quantum explanation, what would you.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Say, pick what you want. I think the quantum is
another way of saying we don't know, because that's what
I was trying to say, is that quantum physics is
really complicated, and this entanglement thing is you were trying
to make sense out of it. But the entanglement involves
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very very tiny particles. Electrons are photons, and in the
laboratory they can make them entangled, and it's really a
lot of work to make on these things. Make to
make two electrons or two photons entangled, it's a lot
of work, a lot of different steps to go through
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and then separate the two of them by as many
miles as you can make them, and then reverse the
spin on one of them, and the other one will
also spin. The reverse will do a reverse spin. Okay,
that's a very small, very small world, a microworld we're
talking about. They've gotten I think last I heard where
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they can do a boron molecule and pair them and
get them entangled. But your body and your mother's body
a little bigger than a boron molecule. So what's the
entanglement becomes a metaphor. The word entanglement is used in
families where everybody's entangled. They're all in each other's business.
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It's a family therapy idea that their emotional lives get
connected with each other. And that's more what I'm thinking about.
I'd rather stay here on earth and stay with the
explanations that are in front of us. And what's in
front of us is that we can be emotionally bonded
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to people. And the research shows, particularly by Ian Stevenson
here at the University of Virginia, that people who are
closely connected it's usually like a parent and a child,
but it can be good friends experience these soymopathety events
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in different ways. You heard it, You heard the voice,
and the kid said different. Thing about your voice is
that it said everything was going to be all right,
which is not the usual variation. It's usually calling something
wrong with mom. That's the more standard one, and you
pick it up because you emotionally entangle, if you will,
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with your mother. But I prefer connection that you're deeply
involved with each other, and that allows for communication across
time and space in a way that we can call
non local, but not in the way that quantum physics
means non local. It's more like we're at a distance
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from each other and there's still a connection. And that connection,
I say it takes place in our mental atmosphere, the psychosphere,
and it's through the psychosphere that those connections are built,
and then when communication is needed, those connections carry the information.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Tell us a little more about the psychosphere. What is
the psychosphere.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Our mental atmosphere. It's the place, if they place in
which telepathy and emotional information and visions and perhaps contact
with non living beings like our deceased parents, through which
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we can make communications that are not usually understood in
conventional ways, and the psychosphere is to be related to
several other around out there. It's another sphere or atmosphere
like our air atmosphere. It surrounds us, and it's in us.
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There's also something more documented by science called the noosphere.
And then osphere is like a meaning sphere, and it's
more like the left brain of each us. It's more rational,
more or less emotional. It's it's the Internet, it's transportation systems, airplanes,
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trains and trucks, other communication forms. It's where science continues
to make discoveries that are conventionally understood in conventional scientific terms.
And then nosphere has been around for a while since
Tilhard shared down in. One of his colleagues identified it,
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and now it's being rigorously examined. However, they don't do
emotion in there, they don't do intuition in there, they
don't don't do lepathy in the in the noosphere. The
psychosphere is an earlier development than the noosphere, which is
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more developed by people inventing things. The psychosphere has been
around before the nosphere, and it's ways in which indigenous
people have communicated with each other without having to speak
and without having to send other ways of signaling each other.
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But they can know when somebody who's who's when out
hunting is coming back, or somebody who is lost, know
when that person where that person is and be able
to find that person.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Is that similar to the way that your dog communicated
with you? So the communication kind of exists between humans
and non humans and animals, the animal kingdom and so on.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Why does that surprise you?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No, it doesn't. I'm not saying that. I'm just just
asking you to concur with it.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, not only the animal kingdom, but the plant continuum.
Trees are our people, our entities that I communicate with.
And I also have had contact with people who have
died who have communicated to me information about a loved
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one of his that I was that I knew very well.
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's interesting. When my mother was transitioning in January of
twenty twenty, I was at her bedside, I was holding
her hand and she was unconscious, and I started seeing
this vision of circles and rings, these circles and rings,
and she passed and a few weeks later this poem
came through me that I believe she inspired. And the
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poem is called Circles and Rings and it says the
path of great beauty and so many things, from atoms
to galaxies, circles and rings, natural wisdom that dwells there
within from not to three sixty, that magical spin. We
circle each other in gravity's dance, as Gaya circle soul,
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the solar romance, as Luna circles us in life giving motion,
drawing the tides and inner emotion. And the age of
the oak is found in its rings, as in woman
and man and all living things. And when the ring
stop and life comes to an end, we'll all circle
back and dance once again. And yes, beautiful Victor, thank you.
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And like I said, I believe she inspired that. That
was the message that she sent me.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh that's beautiful. It's a nice it's a very nice
gift she gave you on the way.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Absolutely, So, how have your colleagues reacted to your pursuit
of these phenomena?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, actually, I try to be able to turn this
back a differently. We're doing a kind of I'm the
expert and you're the interviewer thing which you're used to doing.
But I want to make something clear to our audience
sector this book, this life changing synchronicities, is like is
intended to be like a synchronicity itself, and synchronicities themselves
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are often mirrors of our own minds. Arms are mirrored
in our environment. I'm thinking something and it shows up unexpectedly,
and you've had plenty of experiences like that. You're thinking
you need to have a piece of machinery and it
shows up, or the right person shows up when you're
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needing a job. Well, this book is intended to be
a mirror of the mind of the reader. Whether reader
I hope will read these stories and then see themselves
in it, to see their own experiences in it, just
as I'm asking you about yours. I'm not so interested
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in talking about mine. I'm more interested in having people
read what I've experienced and see what that triggers in
their own experiences, so they can come to believe that
some of these weird things are really something that happened
not just to them, but to many people. And I'm
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supposed to be an expert, and so I can say
these are real phenomenon and they're useful. So when you
read the stories in a book, let me know, or
let yourself know, what does it remind you? What do
they remind you of just as you've been reminded of
your mother, and finding the needed parts of the machinery.
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My purpose, Victor, is to encourage people to examine meaningful
coincidences in their own lives by reading some of mine
and seeing how they're similar and different to their own.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
My guest is doctor Bernard Bidman his book Life Changing Synchronicities,
A Doctor's Journey of coincidence and Serendipity. Bernie, please share
with our listeners where they can get your books and
find out more about you and your work.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Thank you, Victor. If you put my name in any
search engine, b as in boy, he is an Edward,
I as an Idaho T M A N Bitman, you'll
find my podcast, you'll find my Psychology Today blog, and
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you'll find my three coincidence books, the last of which
Victor just mentioned, Life Changing Synchronicities.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
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Speaker 1 (24:19):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, doctor Bernard
Bidtman his book Life Changing Synchronicities, A Doctor's Journey of
coincidence and Serendipity. Bernie, let's start looking at some of
those terms. You had touched upon them a little bit earlier.
But let's look at each of these expressions. You talk
about synchronicity, serendipity, seriality, and simulpathy. How are these defined
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and are they different or the same.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Synchronicity tends to be a psychological, spiritual, or interpersonal interpersonal experience,
and usually it has to do with something in the
person's mind, matching something in the person's environment, or running
parallel with something in the person's environment. For example, you
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I needed to have information about how to write my
next book, and my very good friend told me you
got to write the introduction first, and then you got
to write the last chapter first seconds, so you know
what the book ends are of your book, and I
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didn't know I needed that, but I had a need
kind of like your machine, and that was a synchronicity.
And on the other hand, I gave him some vitamin
e oil and he never asked me for it, but
when I gave it to him, it's fit a need
he had, which is that he needed something for some
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neuropathy his foot, and the pain killers don't cure anything,
and the vitamin e oil I David has made it
a lot easier for him. That was for him and synchronicity.
He had a need. I have a problem, I filled it.
So his need, what he had in his mind, I
filled with a little bottle of vitamin e oil. That's
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synchronicity and a synchronicity that draws us closer together. It's more,
it's an interpersonal thing often as well as a psychological
and spiritual thing. Serendipity is often called a lucky accident.
You kind of go the wrong way and there it is.
And that's what happened with Snapper. I went the wrong way,
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he went the right way. I took one wrong turn.
Snapper took four right turns and ran into me. So
he did more of a choosing than I did, so
that was a primary serendipity I also had. I also
loved playing baseball in high school, and I was batting
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like one hundred and fifty my sophomore year, which is
not too good. You want to get at least three hundred.
My junior year, new coach came in and he taught
me how to drag bunt, which is a way of
fooling the third baseman into like thinking I was just
going to hit the ball, but at the last moment,
I put it down the third baseline and I was
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pretty fast, so I could beat out these bunts. And
I ended up winning the batting title that year with
the batting average of four eighty six. And it was
all because of the serendipity of this new coach showing
up at the right time for me to be able
to really excel at baseball. Serendipity. Seriality is a sequence
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of events that are visual to everyone. It's not just
a mental event matching an external event. It's like a
friend of mine sees monkeys, images and monkeys all the time,
and she's kept a diary of now has like fifteen
hundred different monkey images and they're all monkey and around
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with her because each time she has that one of
these monkey images, like on a toy or a commercial,
or some a magazine or even somebody giving her a
monkey toy it comes at a time, is that it's
meaningful for her. And the fourth term is simul pathety,
and simul pathty refers to what you picked up about
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your mother knowing the pain of a loved one at
a distance, and what I did with choking with my father.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You open your new book Life Changing Synchronicities by suggesting
that humanity may resolve our conflicts by recognizing synchronicities in
our deeper connection with one another.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Houso, What does that trigger in you? Victor? Question? And
I want to hear what you think about it, because again,
this is not about me only, it's about me and
the reader. And I'm so glad you picked that up
and you're pretty knowledgeable about all these things. What does
that statement mean to you? First?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
To me, it means that when we see these things
happening to not only ourselves but to our brothers and
sisters around the world, we're recognizing a common human experience.
And by recognizing common human experience, compassion will come through.
And the feeling of caring and the feeling of kindness
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and ultimately the feeling of love, which is really what
we need in this world.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Beautiful probably a better answer than I could have given it.
So well, the only word you didn't use that I
would have, which I know things as good as some
of what you said. It's connection is that shows where
are connect to other people in ways that we don't
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know that we are, and their connections take place again
through this psychosphere. It's a web of interactions that is
kind of like the Internet, but it's more ethereal and
we don't know it. I mean, there was one story
that I can't remember where I got it, but somebody
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was telling me about how he was really in trouble
with the law and he couldn't help stealing things and
he stole something again he was going to really get
in trouble and be in jail for quite a while.
So some guy in New Jersey who he didn't know,
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went across to Manhattan where this guy was living and unstealing,
and stood in front of a store where the guy
telling me the story was about to steal something and
the guy from New Jersey said, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
And he was there to say it to him.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah. Yeah, they were connected and didn't know it. But
the guy I knew Jersey acted on it. And I
can't emphasize anymore how important it is to act on
the intuitions you get to see where they take you
because sometimes and they can be like life saving, as
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this was for the guy telling me the story.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Just from a personal perspective. When I've had these experiences
in my life, especially the last ten or fifteen years,
I've been presented with situations, and in these situations, I
had three choices. I could either dismiss it out of hand.
I could say yes, but not right now, this is
not the time for it or the place for it.
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Or I could say yes for the capital why And
every time I use that capital, why, Yes? The next
one would come, and the next one would come. Is
this a common occurrence?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
As a research question, it's a research question. You have
to take all three elements and track people, which I
think is going to be possible. But the basic idea
is not no, maybe, or yes. It's knowing when to
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say yes. And how did you know when to say yes? Victor?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I felt it?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Tell us how you felt it.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I had a situation in twenty twenty, where I had
an employer who I'm sorry. In twenty eighteen, I had
an employer that I had been working for for many years,
was not the nicest gentleman in the world. I'm not
going to go into any other details other than that.
And one day I said to myself, if we had
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a meeting, I said, if he looks at me the
wrong way, I'm out of here. And we had the meeting,
and within five minutes, I said, excuse me, I have
to go to my desk and get something. I went
back to my desk and I wrote a letter of resignation,
I submitted it, I left, and he sent out an
email to other people in the industry saying that I
had left the company and he wished me well in
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my future endeavors. Within two hours, I had three phone calls,
and each of those phone calls was an offer from
someone in the same industry, offering me a tremendous amount
of increase in compensation as well as a much better position.
And that's what my yes was. I wanted out, and
I opened to the I opened the new door.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Beautiful. That's uh, that's part of this whole synchronicity things
not only is it during times of appeaval. It's when
you take a risk, which is another way of saying
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things are different. It's not the usual. You get out
of your run, you do something out of the ordinary,
just like I got lost and found Snapper getting lost,
taking a risk, going on vacation, sometimes impulsively, or taking
a left instead of or right, which sometimes will do
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it too, or just going up to somebody in the
airport who you have a feeling about and introducing yourself.
And as one guy tells it in his story with
Synchronicity in the title, they were married for nineteen years.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You share in your book a lot of your personal synchronicities,
and then you share ways that readers can identify them.
What are some of the common synchronicities and how many
your readers and our listeners recognize them?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I don't know. I don't know your listening audience. I
don't know who listens to you well, who reads you?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Who reads you?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I don't know who reads my books. I have a
better idea because some of them tell me, but I
don't get demographics from them from a publishing company. I'd
like to so I can't. I don't know. I mean,
you know, your audience may be so I don't know
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how they think about these things. Let's let's retract.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Let's retract, not my audience, not your readers. What are
some of the commons that created cities that people experience?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
We had to answer that question just to be able
to say they exist. So what you have to do
in science is develop a valid and reliable scale. And
there said whole bunch of steps to go through to
do it, and you end up looks like we got
ten items. And then we asked a thousand people are
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to run how frequently these items happened in their lives.
And these were faculty and staff at the University of
Missouri in Columbia. And once you guess what the most
common one instructor or the most common one job.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I can think one of the most common one would
probably be you're thinking about someone, the phone rings, and
it's them calling you.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yep. And now they don't do phones only it can
be texting, and occasionally they'll show up at your door.
That'll happen too, And often the key part of it
is is you haven't heard from them for a while.
I mean, if she talked to your mother every other week,
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every other day. He's in that surprise when she calls.
It's someone who calls who you haven't heard from from
a quite a long time. One of my favorites was
getting a call from the daughter of my high school
girlfriend because she had heard Mel Robbins radio person our
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common she gets. She got a lot of podcast viewers
talk about me as a synchronicity expert. So she heard it,
and I got and then she contacted me to talk
about her mother. It's not like I was thinking about
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either one, the mother or the daughter, but I do
think about her daughter, her mother on and off or
quite off every once in a while, just because from
any street. So this was one of those very low
probability thinking about somebody without and getting a fun in contact,
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and that just came out of nowhere, except that her
other in high school had a strong impact on me
and in my future relationships with women.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Do synchronicities only happen when we're paying attention?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Now? One of the things about questions is they're often
a hidden There's often a hidden statement in the question.
I've done enough, I've done enough interview other people and
let me just say I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So we have to pay attention.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
We have to pay attention if you're if you're not
paying attention, you don't see them. And you have to
think that paying attention is going to be useful to you.
And as I was saying that you were paying a
lot of attention. When you want to find that piece
in the machinery, you found it in a very nice,
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harder to find way. If you're looking for your dog
to see if you can find him, then sometimes it's
just scanning your environment and looking to see if there's
something there. The guy in the airport was scanning his
environment for somebody who might somehow resonate with him. Another
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person in the airport wanted to meet this famous person
in her world. It was Little Guardia, and she had
no way of contacting her, and then ended up seeing
her in Louardia because she wanted to find her, and
she would have if she had to be able to
be looking around in order to be able to see her,
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and she got a job working for this woman.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Are there ways here's a question of the answer within
the question, are there ways that we may increase the
frequency of coincidences?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well, what are they they're different after your list of
your listen.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
I think the ways that we increase the frequency of
coincidences is by being aware of them. And I think
once we're aware of them, they're actually happening all the time.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's fundamental. When you asked me about quantum entanglement, or
I'll give you some kind of answer about the psychos here,
and it's a psychological thing. First, it's a psychological explanation.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You had to be listening to the voice talking to you.
You had to pay attention to that voice, otherwise wouldn't
hurt it.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
If you were distracted, if you're depressed, if you were anxious,
if you were caught up in something else, you wouldn't
have heard it. But your attention was free enough to
be able to listen to that voice inside your head.
So you have to have a floating attention that can
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be drawn like a butterfly to a flower or a
bee to a flower, to be able to land where
you need to be able to land with your attention.
It's undamental. And here I'll mention something that you won't
ask me about. It's called cognitive sovereignty. Cognitive sovereignty in
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these days, our minds are flooded with all kinds of information,
visual and word based, just like what we're doing. We're
doing one of many, many, many, many many podcasts that
are and radio shows that are being put out there,
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and people turn on their TV sets, they look, they
go downtown and there's all kinds of ads and people
trying to sell them stuff. We're all kinds of cartoons
and entertainment. I'm being distracted by watching basketball these days.
Sometimes distractions are a good idea, but there is a
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fight for our attention more than there's ever been before
in the history of humanity, a real war for people's attention.
And the term cognitive sovereignty is a way of saying,
be master mistress of your own mind. Don't let stuff
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in that does not benefit you if you leave. If
you do that, then your attention gets freed up for synchronicity.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Taking ownership of our attention cognitive sovereignty. My guest is
doctor Bernard BigMan, his book Life Change Synchronicities. We'll be
back with more after these words on the Own Times
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Speaker 1 (43:37):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, doctor Bernard Bidman,
his book Life Changing Synchronicities, A Doctor's Journey of coincidence
and Serendipity. Bernie, you share many wonderful personal experiences in
your book. Tell us about the significance of the number
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
People tend to have numbers that follow them around, and
it's kind of surprising when it started noticing that happening.
And I started noticing that most prominently when I was
in college, when this classmate of mine, it's a teammate
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of mine, didn't want number twenty three. He wanted number
twenty six, and that's when I was being given so
I had number twenty three. Well, number twenty three meaning
to me already it was my house in Wilmington, Delaware
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was thirty two, so it was a reverse. And later
in years I read about twenty three, meaning change as
in twenty threes could do from the nineteen twenties. And
then I'd get a a number for a new checking
account when I was a psychiatric resident and saw the
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number twenty three on this checking account. And probably the
most surprising one was of October twenty third, nineteen sixty five.
This girlfriend of mine and I were hitchhiking from San
Francisco to Los Angeles, and we went on one oh
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one and then went over to root Warm around the
California coast. And the first ride took us to the
turn towards the Route one, and the second one took
us to Monterey, and the third one took us to
another place halfway down. The fourth onee took us to
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Hurst Castle, and the fifth one took us to their
apartment in Los Angeles. And so there was five rides
on October twenty third, and we walked in to their
apartment just to take a rest, and their apartment number
is twenty three. The number twenty three has been played
around with in movies. There's two movies that have the
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number twenty three as a central one. It's just one
of those central idea. It's just one of those numbers
that gets a lot of play. Six x six gets
a lot of play, and some people are attached to
other numbers. It's just they make you think. And the
one thing that makes a lot of people think about
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numbers is I wake up at the same time and
the clock is two to two two in the morning.
Our other people see eleven eleven. That's the favorite on
a digital clock, that's the favorite number. It's because it's
the only one with four digits in a twelve hour clock.
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But if you do a twenty four hour clock, you
got to twenty two to twenty two. So it depends
on what's kind of clock you're using, and people take
that to have some kind of significance. The number ones, well,
what they serve as I think primarily as a way
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of catching people's attention that there's something else going on
around them. When you get the seriality, this representation of
the same number, trying to say, there's more to your life,
there's more to our reality than you have been told.
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And my whole thing is to be able to help
with the transition from materialistic reality to one in which consciousness,
which our minds are not only products of our brains.
We need our brains to some degree, but there are
also something else, and that something else is a way
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we can with something greater. And that's something greater that
I'm writing about next is the collective human mind that
we each of us is a sell and the collective
human organism, and each of us has an that's connected
to the other minds on our planet. And synchronicity is
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a way of showing how these connections take place.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
So this would allude to what you share in your
book Life Changing Synchronicity. Is that really all synchronicities have purpose?
Speaker 2 (48:33):
No, that's I am selling that idea. That's true, otherwise
why by writing about it? But some of them are
to be discarded because you don't know what their meaning is.
And purpose and meaning often and sometimes you just get
one and you say, what what is this? I don't
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know what this is supposed to mean. Sometimes you find
out later what the coincidence meant. You don't know it
at the moment. You can't insist that you know it
in the moment. But there are some you just say
I without going into the details of it. There was
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a very complicated synchronicity happening with a soccer team in England.
That has to do with five Bonachi numbers, which I
don't want to try to get into. But this team
had somehow scored or won games in a five Nachi sequence.
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So I asked a guy who's an expert in five
Nazi sequences, and he said, this is a random event.
It's very low probability, but it's still a random event.
And so you get to a place where the random
and this says there's no inherent meaning in it, but
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you can make meaning out of it if you want to.
A lot of times there's some inherent meaning that you
become wanting to search for. So yes, for the most
part or many times, they're useful. And when I we
talk about that victor. Sometimes there are terrible consequences of
a synchronicity at first, and years later it turns out
(50:29):
to be one of the best things that happened. And
it's something like the same pattern of your quitting your job.
The VOSS gave you what you needed to leave, and
there was a terrible thing to have to do, and
it turned out to be much better than you had.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Before, absolutely, and the resolution was rapid once I made
that choice.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Sometimes it's not so.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Rapid interesting mind. For the most part, have been who
gave a moniker Doctor coincidence.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
A friend of mine from the University of Washington called
me doctor Coincidence. That's where I got it.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I like that, you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Doctor Coincidence is an alter ego of mine, and doctor
Coincidence emerges when I smoke a certain weed. And doctor
Coincidence has been known to be my research assistant because
a lot of stuff we're talking about happens when I
am in an altered state of consciousness, because in altered
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states reality looks different than it does in regular states.
So I've seen a lot of stuff by being doctor
Coincidence in an altered state of consciousness. However, Doctor Coincidences
has also got me in trouble because he's kind of
like a trickster. He kind of just gets self involved
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and likes to do things for the fun of it
and doesn't pay attention to the potential consequences. So I've
had to keep him under wraps more recently, and I
just let him out every once in a while. There
still is and I probably won't be able to use it.
I have a car, a nineteen sixty eight Volvo A
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one twenty two s. That was my hippie car in
San Francisco when I was a hippie on Hayte Street.
I still have it and it works, and I want
to get a little video of me riding around a
car as doctor Coincidence stressed up and some on my
hippie up. It's nice. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Tell us about the Coincidence Project.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
The Coincidence Project was organized in twenty twenty two. It
became an we'll see in the state of I mean
a nonprofit in the state of Virginia four O one
to three C. And our purpose is to put synchronicity
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into global consciousness. A lot of people are doing that.
There's more and more people doing it, but that's been
our function and the vision is to is to illuminate
the hidden currents that connect and unify us. Synchronicities illuminate
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those hidden currents that connect and unify us. And how
do we do that. We had to think called the
Coincidence Cafe, which we've stopped because it really wasn't doing
that much. And the way I'm trying to do it
now and I have some steps in doing it, is
to develop an AI app which could be called Bernard GPT.
(54:07):
One of the board members doesn't like that, but it's made.
Bernard GPT is a thing, and it's composed of my
three books, primarily of the information from my three books,
and you can ask you questions about your own synchronicities
and it can answer it. And that's what That's what
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I want people to do, is to start using the
AI to figure out their own coincidences and then be
able to connect with people who have similar coincidence stories
and connect them up if they're willing. There's a lot
of privacy issues we have to be careful about. If
they're open to connecting with people with different similar synchronicities
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and creating like online connections and the discussions, that's what
we're trying to do. It's a broader a way than
having a meeting once a month where we get twenty
five people together to talk about coincidences. This is more fat,
this is faster and larger.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
My guest doctor Bernard Bidman his brand new book Life
Changing Synchronicities, A Doctor's Journey of Coincidence and Serendipity. Burnie
one more time, please chair with our listeners with and
get all of your books and find out more about you.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Please put my name in your search engine viaz in
boy E t M a n btman first named Bernard,
and you'll find my Psychology Today blog, my podcast which
has about two hundred interviews on it of people talking
about synchronicity, and you'll readily come across various places to
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get my three books, the last one Life Changing Synchronicities
Will This is what I hope you do and what
I hope you'll read is not just me, but see
a mirror of yourself in my stories.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Bernie, thank you so much for joining us and sharing
this amazing work.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
You're very welcome. Victor, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
And thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm
Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week