June 20, 2025 • 56 mins
Air Date - 18 June 2025
Having several “Near Death Experiences” and one where she was given her Last Rites at the age of 17, was a wake-up call for my guest this week on Destination Unlimited, Gloria O’Neil-Savage. It opened her to the concept of dimensionality, Heaven on Earth, and vibrational medicine, as well as other seeds planted in the cross-over experience that keep blooming in perfect timing and preparedness. Gloria is a professional singer, Associate Polarity Practitioner, Certified Educational Instructor, Reiki Master, and Interior Designer. She is also a T.S.H. Vibrational Healing© and Total Sensory Integration© Instructor and Practitioner, as well as a practicing Aromatherapist and Instructor since 1995, and an Astrologer since 1980.
Her website is https://www.arcoftheancients.com/, and she joins me this week to share her path and book, Alchemy of the Soul, the Arc of the Ancients.
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Having several “Near Death Experiences” and one where she was given her Last Rites at the age of 17, was a wake-up call for my guest this week on Destination Unlimited, Gloria O’Neil-Savage. It opened her to the concept of dimensionality, Heaven on Earth, and vibrational medicine, as well as other seeds planted in the cross-over experience that keep blooming in perfect timing and preparedness. Gloria is a professional singer, Associate Polarity Practitioner, Certified Educational Instructor, Reiki Master, and Interior Designer. She is also a T.S.H. Vibrational Healing© and Total Sensory Integration© Instructor and Practitioner, as well as a practicing Aromatherapist and Instructor since 1995, and an Astrologer since 1980.
Her website is https://www.arcoftheancients.com/, and she joins me this week to share her path and book, Alchemy of the Soul, the Arc of the Ancients.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
we will explore these topics and so much more with
fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
(00:28):
Destination Unlimited. Having several near death experiences and one where
she was given her last rites at the age of
seventeen was a wake up call for my guest this
week on Destination Unlimited, Gloria O'Neill Savage. It opened her
(00:52):
to the concept of dimensionality, heaven on Earth, and vibrational medicine,
as well as other seeds planted in the crossover experience
that keep blooming in perfect timing and preparedness. Gloria is
a professional singer, associate Polarity practitioner, and certified educational instructor,
(01:14):
Reiki Master, and interior designer. She's also a TSH Vibrational
Healing and Total Sensory Integration instructor and practitioner, as well
as a practicing aromatherapist and instructor since nineteen ninety five
and an astrologer since nineteen eighty. Her website is arcancient
(01:35):
dot com and she joins me this week to share
her path and book, Alchemy of the Soul The Arc
of the Ancients. Please join me in welcoming to Destination unlimited,
my friend, the Gloria O'Neil Savage. Welcome, Gloria.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, Hi Victor, How are you wonderful?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well on this wonderful day over your overcast in Cleveland.
I'm actually doing fairly well. I have a light in
the world, and I have someone witnessing the light that
is also the light with me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Beautiful. Thank you, Gloria. Congratulations on your book, Alchemy of
the Soul The Arc of the Ancients, being ranked number
eight in Amazon's Miracles and Spirituality Group. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, thank you so much. I'm ecstatic. I'm gop smacked.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And we'll be discussing the book a little later. But
let's start with your early path. What was your life
like prior to your near death experience when you were seventeen,
From the standpoint of spirituality and what your aspirations were.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, I was a little bit of a different person,
so I spent a lot of time alone in Make
believe Land, singing and dancing and entertaining. I pretend all
kinds of things. I was a priest, I had a shopkeeper,
I had so forth go down in the park, because
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back then you got out of the house and you
didn't come back until the end of the day. And
so of course i'd be miles away even but I'd
go down to the what we call the valley, which
is the park down here, and there'd be fairy fields
and there would be these ain't tall life beings would
be I mean tallest trees, and they would stand and
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be laughing and gesturing with one another, and I would
sing and dance with them, and they would love it,
and I mean I would bow on everything. So I
did that. I told you previously. I played chess with
my father, which I love. And I like reading and
(04:02):
filling my mind with whatever. And luckily we had books
at home, so I would digest as much of that
information as possible. And of course we always had the library,
and we had library days at school when we had
the bookmobile. And I was thinking just actually today, because
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I have so many teachers in my life or people
in charge or administrators or so forth, and I've been
thinking about what's happening with the education system for so
long now, and I've written a little bit about that
at the end of my book too, where I think
We're going, which is more to a Rudolf Steiner version
with using gardens and so forth. And I thought, why
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don't we have mobile set of just a mobile book,
which I don't even know if they have that anymore,
but mobile classes on a boss. So it would be
all set up for whatever class, history, designing, technology, whatever
that is, and you could design it to have the
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kids get right on the bus. And I try not
to use the word kid actually, because that's a baby
goat and the children is a more appropriate term there.
So I would do that, and I had some friends
who play with I would make stages in my backyard
on our picnic table and put a big curtain up
and invite the neighbors over, much to my mother's clagrete,
(05:31):
because she would come home to this, and I'd play
records and sing and I'd be singing Wretha Franklin and
Sam and Day and with some barber stroke saying and whatever,
and to these adults that I had chair set up for.
(05:52):
So I did that. Sometimes I'd make a little fair
back there, like a could make bake games and take
advice a gold wheel and make it so you could
spin it and it would stop. And I used I
think it was the strip from the Life game for
people to bet on, And I'd buy a great big
bag of popcorn at the store and sell cups of that,
(06:15):
cups of kool Aid. And I just liked it. I
like inventing things.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So other than these light beings that you witnessed, you
had a fairly normal child to tell us about these
light beings.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, they're just tall emanating, like they're like like diffusing lights,
sort of like you see an aura, but stronger than that,
more more apparent for me to see than that, like
like steam light coming off of them, It would be
the best way to say it, where an ore is
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not somewhat it's kind of like steam, but it's not
diffusing like that, like that light is.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Standing. What was your understanding as to who they were?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I didn't really have one. All I knew is in fact,
that's in my book because I said, when are we
going to talk about the light being? How come people?
And I thought, because I was a mischievous child, like
not stealing, but just creating, Like what I just told
you type of things are getting kids to go on
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a adventure and tire our bikes and wagons up together
and being things like that that maybe I'm not or
I you know, believe it or not. I talked a lot,
and I would talking class or not have a lot
(07:44):
of patience for people to come up with answers and
so forth. So I thought, maybe I'm just who mis
bad for them to everybody to talk about it, because
surely everyone knows about them. I didn't think I was
the only one seeing them. I just thought people were
not allowed to talk about it now because it was
(08:06):
so apparent.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What happened when you were seventeen that led to your
near death experience.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So by the time I was seventeen in school, I
had transferred from Catholic school to a public school. And
part of the reason was because there were good looking
boys that were going down the street. I knew they
were going to the public school if it they in
the Catholic school, If I stayed in the Catholic School Magnificat,
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then I would have been there's no boys. So as
silly as the thought is when you're a teenager, it
was foremost in my mind all of a sudden. So
I went to a public school, and I knew I
didn't really know anyone except for a couple other people
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that left Catholic school, and really I started to get
picked on, and it's kind of it was scary at
the time, and so I tried to just start fitting
in as best as I could, you know, instead of
getting straight a's, my grades started to suffer. And because
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I was trying not because I was kind of getting
picked on because of being getting the answers, and I
wanted to be a cool kid. So I started to
not get straight a's, and I felt guilty about that
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with my parents then, who are working so hard, and
that now I'm not living up to a different part
of my obligation, which is to do the best I
can academically and so and get scholarship and all that
kind of stuff. And so I was feeling guilty and
(10:05):
worse and worse and worse about myself, and I thought
maybe I should just not be here. And eventually I
really did get sick. And at the time I also
was working out at Halley's Downtown and go to school
in the morning and go to Kelly's at the afternoon,
my ankles started swelling. I mean, my feet were just
(10:27):
killing me, and I'd have to take my high heels
off and try to put my feet on a cool
floor because they were just on fire and swollen. But
I just kept working. And then I was getting these tears,
which I know are migraines now, but I didn't know
that term at the time really, and i'd have to
(10:50):
put my head down because it got so heavy and
would be just bringing away in me like a sorry
to explain, I'm sure migraine person can tell you you're blinded.
So that was another thing. And then I just couldn't really.
(11:10):
It was got too hard for me to get up,
and so I lay in my back and I was
just told my mom under the covers. I would just say,
I'm not really well enough to go to school. I
don't feel so good, mom, And she was busy going
to work because my parents owned the store, so I'm okay,
(11:31):
but she probably bring me some ginger ale or something
like that. And and my whole body started to swell
up and turn green, and then all of my joints
were red and flame like purple, like big bruises on
my wrists and elbows and ankles and knees so forth,
(11:55):
and my fingers and clothes were like bludes. And so
I was proceeding to do this every day and telling
my mom, I still just don't feel so good. And now,
as an early younger child, I would get gladder infections,
and so it was kind of I would get sick.
(12:18):
So it wasn't like completely out of the blue or
different from my mom and for me to have this
getting sick time. And one day I was one of
these days. I'm in bed and I hear a knock
on the back door, and I got in my bedroom watch.
I went to the porch off the back off the
(12:39):
bathroom upstairs and looked down and I saw it as
my friend Denise, and I'm like, oh boy. So I
put my robot and managed my way downstairs, which was
really difficult, and I opened the door and she looks
at me and her mouth drops open, and she's like,
oh my god, what is really with you? And so
(13:01):
she comes in and was sitting in the living room
and she says, hello, Oh my God, just said, does
your mom know? Does your mom seeing you? And I
go not really, I've been kind of hiding under the cover.
She goes, well, I'm calling your mom right now at
the store. No no, no, no, no no. She goes,
all right, well, then you call her. I'm like no, no, no, no, no.
(13:21):
Don't bother them because they were busy working and you
didn't like to. I mean not that my parents were
cruel or something. They were just it was just kind
of how it was back then. People worked and it
was busy, and I didn't want to interrupt them, and
the other part of me was kind of ready to
(13:43):
just go cross over because it was just so hard
to be down here. And other things that happened. Her
house was robbed, and I was already having these psychic
experience experiences and hearing things and hearing people's minds and thought,
so all these things were happening already, and I had
(14:04):
no want to talk about that with and so, and
they were actually happening, and they bore themselves out. So anyway,
I said, I'll talk. I will tell my mom as
soon as she gets home from work, and so I did.
I said, Mom, I just really don't feel so good
(14:24):
and I think that, and so she still doesn't see
me because I got I'm covered, and she's not looking
at the whites of my eyes, which were completely green,
and so she makes them. She takes me to the
emergency room and the doctor gives me a shot of adrenaline.
I said, I just can't stay awake anymore, and I don't.
(14:46):
Everything hurts. Of course, they draw a blood and so forth,
and so he gives me a shot shot of adrenaline.
He says, I'm going to be back had to check
on you, and I said, well, can I just lay
down here and just and so he says yeah. So
I fell back asleep, and then he came back in
and he says, you feel any more energy? Do you
(15:07):
feel less tired? And I said not really, and he
gives me another shot of returnlet and he says, and
I'll be back to check on you. And I well,
fell back asleep, and then he came back in and
the third time he gives me the shot of adrenaline.
I lied to him and said, yes, I'm starting to
(15:28):
feel more energy because I felt bad for my mom
waiting for me when she worked so hard and she
needs to get some sleep. And so, you know, my
mom took me home then and then she says, I
think I'm just going to draw you a bath and
(15:51):
said okay. So she's fill in the bathtub up and
then she leaves and I get in the bathtub it
she opens the door and she comes in and she looks.
I mean, she says, oh my god, did that actor
look at you? And I'm like nodding because I'm barely
staying awake. And she goes downstairs and I hear her
(16:13):
on the phone screaming that the doctor he'd sent me home.
I'm I'm taking her back right away, and so she did,
and they wheeled me in and then that's really all
I remember until I died and crossed over and I
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start in a cute like Roman type cathedral, like stone marble,
and it's I can't see far back enough to home
far back. It goes with stadium style style seating but
not like cushions, and everything like stone, and everybody's praying
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and for forgiveness. They're going over their sins and it's
all in the same language, but it's not the language
I speak now, And the closest I can come to
it is Latin because I took Latin, but it wasn't that,
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and that's what made me become conscious of being in
this place was this loud murmuring and praying, and when
I looked down, I could see in the center of
this oval shaped space this three beings of light in
the center, a very large chair in the middle, and
(17:39):
two like two people standing on either side, but there
were light. And then I saw light beings all around
that oval, praying and in such a state of blessed
like it was they achieved the highest honor you could
(18:01):
put of what you could possibly achieve on the planet,
being where they were. And this is hindsight when I
come back and think about how that felt and looked
at what I was looking at. And then so I'm
continuing to go over my life and ask for forgiveness
for like I'm in confession or something, but I'm watching
(18:23):
it like a movie, living it. And the next thing
I know, it was as if it was my time,
and I got sucked into that light and then everything
became this musical light soup, like I was swimming in
this light soup. Soup. The word soup's terrible because it's
(18:44):
hard to it's not a very good word. Bath. Let's
put it that way, A bath of this beautiful And
then it was like in every cell of my body,
though I don't recall having body, and all I could
hear was this divine emanation singing into every cell you
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are love, I love you, I love you, I love you.
And the feeling of that was better than anything I've
ever experienced in my entire life, and I have had
some amazing and glorious moments down here. And then I
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was like, it was like that time, that cleansing, if
you will, that embedding of this bass bathing everything in
me with this light and it's not light light down
here either, it's a different it's a whole different light.
(19:53):
It's an effusive, effervescent light. And then walking, but I
call it float walking because it's not like walking with
your feet and it's not like you're walking on the ground,
but you're sort of by the ground. And in fact,
when I can tell you this too, when I was
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in that stadium, everything I'm experiencing sensory wise is not
with the senses that we have down here. So it's
my third eye, which I know now I didn't know then,
and that has three hundred and sixty degrees as air comfortable,
so conferential view. And then how you hear is totally
(20:38):
clear audiently but clear. Ah, And so float walking with
who I know of is Jesus. And you know it's
beautiful as a garden. What dreams may come kind of
comes close to it, as Robin Williams describes things and
(20:59):
things like that. That's how this was, but more real
than anything here I've ever experienced. Dat Cainess also tell you.
And there's a girl, though, young girl that was painting
for I saw I found a long about ten years
ago or so, and she was painting heaven as a child,
and I thought that's very close. And so as we're walking,
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I now notice there's this long line because we're not
now there's this street, this avenue, all these different buildings
and houses, and there's a long lot of people going
up these stairs into this building. So I'm like, hey,
what's going on over there? And Jesus is like, okay,
you want to you want to go check it out?
(21:43):
Of course I'm paraphrasing this, but we go over there
and I float walk up those stairs and into the
building and there on the cubicle to the side. As
I get closer and closer in further and further in,
I know these people more and more intimately, and the
other's cousins and so forth, until they're my siblings, my
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sisters and brothers in this room and my mother who's
completely wrecked, I mean, just like I've never seen her.
And my ottle nephew was probably three four years old
at the time, and he was at my oldest sister,
(22:27):
Barb who has crossed over's knee and said, you know,
it's asking his mom, you know what's going on, and
she just shaking her head. She's got no words for him.
And that's completely unlike that, sister, Barbaush And so I'm
like what. Then I float back. We're in the ceiling,
(22:48):
you know, opened the ceiling floating and that I looked
down and I see this casket and an instantly I'm like,
oh no, and I float over there and it's me
and I've zoom back to Jesus and I'm like, oh,
you got to get me, You got to get me back.
They can't handle this. And he's like, oh, you want
(23:09):
to go back. I'm like, oh, yeah, you I can't.
I can't leave them like this. And then I became
conscious in my wob well, actually the first time was
becoming conscious. I started to wake up and my mom
was on my arm, crying and in the bed, in
(23:29):
the hospital bed, and I looked up and I saw
Happy Days. Was that it was ten thirty And I said, no,
don't worry, I'm going to be okay. Jesus told me
I was going to be okay. He's like, oh, do
you even know? You're trying to make me feel okay?
And then I just said was it. I went out again.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm going to ask you to hold on. At that point,
we're gonna have to take a quick break. My guest
is my dear friend, Gloria O'Neill Savage. Her book is
called Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients. Gloria,
please share with our listeners where they can get your
book and find out more about you and your amazing story.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thank you. Well. You can find my book on Amazon
right now. It's in both kindle and hardback versions. You
can get it there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And I have a webs Arcoftheancients dot com, Arc of
t Ancient ancimts dot com and also my blog which
is called Wakingthdeep blogspot dot com.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
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Speaker 1 (30:47):
Pivotal Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week is
my dear friend Gloria O'Neil savage. We're talking about her
book Alchemy of the Soul, The Arc of the Ancients.
At the end of the last segment, you were talking
about sort of waking up from this near death experience
and your mother was there, and then you went back
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again what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
So then I was running in a jungle, sweating, and
I was barefoot, so I was like a native and
this black panther jaguar thing is jump running after me.
And I mean, I'm jumping and running and jumping and running.
And this is the part of memory I have of
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it because I was so far gone. I had died already.
And when I came to consciousness in my body, my
spirit had awareness in my body, but my body was
like it was not mine. It was like a tomb,
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like I was a sarcophagus of myself. And I could
tell there were there was I could hear the priest
and the two nuns next to me giving me my
last rites, and I could hear my mom crying and
trying to keep it together, and I'm trying to open
an eye and move something to let them know I'm here.
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I'm not gone, I'm here. And so then I'm out
of my body and I'm in the ceiling again, and
I'm trying to shake my mom. Mom, I'm here, I'm
not gone, I'm here, and the doctor is telling I
could hear and see the whole thing. The doctor's telling her,
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I'm sorry, but missus O'Neill, but you're gonna have to
just make preparations, you know, for your daughter, and you
know she's just not answering, and so forth. And I
could see the priest and the two nuns that I
could see my body. I'm like, oh my god. So
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i ll back in my body and I push and
push and push and push until I get my left
eye open, and they're they're standing at my left and
they are a bit startled, of course, and they realize, well,
I'm here. So then that starts a whole string of
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events that's happening with the team, the doctors and so forth.
And because I've got this green bio coming out my nose.
I got it coming out. I have a tube in
my mouth, I have tube out my side, and I
start to get sick. So now I'm trying to hold
my belly and I'm vomiting this stuff. Sorry to be
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so graphic, and and it's awful because I could now
my belly hurts, hurts, hurts, hurts, hurt, and my throat hurts.
My note because from the tubes and so forth. And
they come in, they rush in, and then they rip
open my stomach in the stitches and they stick a
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turkey baster in there to suck it out. And they
have opened me up from the middle of my breast
to the top mid part of my hip and cleaned
the organs as best as they could, because what had
happened was my appendix had ruptured and it was that
was in my system for like two weeks. So they said,
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she's not going to survive this previous to this, what
I'm telling you, and while I was out.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
And so.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But yeah, I did. I just that was it. I
was a whole nother place with God and came back
to Earth again to a lot of Pepe.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
When you returned from this happened when you returned from
this experience. How did it change your understand of the
divine and our relationship with the divine?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, I knew that God love knows me, and that
I just felt God loves everyone, and we just have
We just don't have a complete awareness. Something's happened. Every
not everybody knows this. I didn't even know that part
of it at the time. I mean, I knew there
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were these guides and so forth, but I didn't have
this connection that deep to know God the way at
that happ That experience created and it was it was
happy because I thought we'd never die. There's no death,
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and this animes we're animating this flesh, our soul and
spirit in this human body. But that's not who we are.
We're just this human body. In fact, I'll just tell
you a quick story why. I was doing yoga on
a beach some nineteen ninety three for something like that,
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and I felt myself, in final relaxation get hopped onto
the bot onto this beach like a baby and be born.
And I heard the universe speaking to me, saying, the
poor we will have with us always you. We will
only have this short time and That's when I had
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this instant under his comprehension that what that really means
is that we just have this who you're living. You've
got this life as Victor this time. I've got this
life as Gloria this time. And then the I could
feel the steam coming off me, and the yoga instructor, Linda,
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walks around and she looks down. She goes, oh, look,
we even have a baby being born. Look at the
steam coming off of her. So once again I'm witnessed.
And so that is this life that we have down here,
is this short time we have this incarnation as this person,
and we can wake up and remember as much as
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possible and reconnect to the divine that is within and without.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
And what led you to sharing your story in your
book Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Well, that's a great question, Victor. So I closed my
shop at the end of September of two thousand and
eight because I did the extract my last healing center,
and so I had done the astrology and saw that
so there's going to be this terrible crash, a mortgage
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crash in particular in October, and so negotiated out of
my lease with Marty. He was very nice about it
and very kind. And the month before and I came
home in one afternoon. It's sunny and it's nice, and
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I'm sitting in my yard. I'm by Dak and I'm like, well,
this is really nice. I haven't really experienced my own
yard in so many years because I'm always working. I
was always with the center or the school or the
teaching or the clients, and so it was like just
big kind of bathing in it and basking in this
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lovely sun sunny afternoon. And then all of a sudden,
I felt that presence of archangel Gabriel, which I now
know is Gabriel because I've had these other experiences saying,
you've done a great job, and you've finished the task
that we wanted you to do before, and now we
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have another task for you. And he said, now is
the time to write the book you came here with.
And I'm I'm just getting a rush telling you this
right now, And so that was it. I began to
write that book. But that was two thousand and nine.
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We could see it's taken all this time, and interestingly enough,
Pluto went into Capricorn in two thousand and nine, and
that squared my natal venus, and it took all this
time for Pluto now to go into Aquarius and forming
a grin to my natal venus and my natal my
venus is in Libra and my Mars is in Gemini,
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and it isn't it right now forming this grand air
trine and of course air communication. And so I find
all that it's just fascinating to live live it, to
see it, and to witness this alchemy, which is what
this is. So that's how I started to write the book.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
It's interesting that we share the common angelic partner, Gabriel.
I have shared this before. When I took my first
reiki class back in the late nineteen eighties, the teacher
had instructed us to place our palms over our hearts,
close our eyes, and see the first thing that came
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into our field. Division I did not have angel consciousness
up to that point, at least not in the traditional sense,
and immediately I saw what I perceived to be an angel.
And the teacher asked us to share what we were seeing,
and I said, I'm seeing an angel, and he said,
ask the angel its name, and immediately I responded, I
heard Gabriel. And that night I went home and my daughter,
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who was thirteen at the time, said she wanted to
try this reiki stuff that I was learning. And I
placed my palms over the back of her head and
she closed her eyes and she said, Daddy, I see
our family members who have passed before. She saw her
grandfather and several other people who had passed before she
was born, and she said, Daddy, there's an angel flying
above them. I had asked the angel it's name, and
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she responded, Gabriel. So that connection is really wonderful.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Mm hmm amen to that. Well, of course, that just
makes me. It's like I've got pop rocks going off
inside me in a great wonderful way.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
How did the spirit of Mary Magdalen? How did the
spirit of Mary Magdalene come into your life?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Well, she's come in different ways. I would say the
first and I think really the first first first time chronologically.
I mayn't be out of order here, but I would say.
Speaker 15 (41:53):
The the one time I was in my second shop
and that which was the Center, and that's where I
started the School for Alternative Health here in Cleveland, and
the Polarity School.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And I had a landlord that was an attorney. It
was not a he's not on this path like this.
And I had to go down to a meeting in Columbus.
It's a couple of hours journey, and came back and
we had this big ice storm snowstorm here, and so
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the roof was melting. The water's coming in, it's going
into my case, into my computer, into the cash register,
into if things are floating in the display case, and
there's a big pocket above dripping, and ends up that
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the landlord says we should go up, I should go
up and shovel the roof. And I'm like, I'm not
going up and shoveling the roof. Well, it ends up
being a big fiasco. He comes huffing in. He's an attorney,
and he started yelling at us and calling us all
kinds of pretty names. And I had three customers there
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at the time as well at this point, and he
I said, no, you can leave now because you're not
resolving this issue and you can't be talking to us
like this, and we have the right to quiet enjoyment here.
And so he's I don't have to get out of
here atough I don't even go into the whole thing,
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but he ends up hitting my business.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Partner in the face, and so we ended up we
call the police and they said, we know exactly who
you're talking about, because and they describe him, and they
tell us that they have to go down to the
bank quite often because he's down there raising a ruckus
about them cashing a check for him.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
My godchild, who's crossed over. Just this past November, sweetheart
had now done a search which I should have done
previous to standing a contract, and found out three ex
wives had filed abuse charges on him, and he got
away with all of it, being the longtime attorney in Cleveland,
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and everybody, I thought, We've got to go and file
charges against him for this, and everybody everybody advised me, No,
my mother, my coach, my mom's said, Gloria, you don't
want to work this hard for your business and lose
it like this. You shouldn't be fighting him. My coach says,
don't fight the boys in their own playground, because he's
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an attorney. So I'm wrestling with all of this, and
I hear I'm standing behind my case one day in
the store all by myself, and I hear Mary, and
Mary says Gloria, I need you to do this for me,
and I said okay. Eleven day trial ensued, and it
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was got awful. He had taken pictures because I had
reiki symbols and astrology. We had the blending bar with
romotherapy in there, and it was I mean, it was
a beautiful place. And he brought all this as evidence
that I'm a witch. So the judge ruled that he
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could that they could say I was a witch because
he had this evidence. So he proceeded to call me that.
That's how they addressed me the witch for eleven days.
At one point I'm in the hall because they didn't
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want to be in there, and you know, because he
was just trying to give me any which way to
go hard time. As I had re furbished that whole building,
brought the bricks walls, I had them sand blasted. I
did some of it. My nephew did some of it,
a friend of his, I mean, and it was gorgeous, okay.
And so in the hall down the hall is the
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security guard and she's sitting at a desk and she
had a little radio on and I hear the son
Kaman from the Beatles letter B but Anyway, I found
out that these women were coming up to me saying
they also rented from him, and they were, you know,
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they had children, and they were oftentimes not a good place,
and he was abusing them. So they thanked me.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
He was.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I mean they were sitding there giving the judge of
the anger and saying f you and walking out. I mean,
it was beyond abominable behavior. But he was found guilty
and he was eventually discard hm. So that was one occasion,
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of course, the other one there was, there's many. One
time I was praying about why are there so many
autistic children and what's going on with all these energetic disorders.
This just doesn't right for you know, lupus and MS
and five from my aljab and autism and so forth.
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And I hear Gloria, I'm nick Bella Magdala, and of
course I right away started research. I wrote that down
and I could see Brahma God Allah, my god Allah.
I thought, well, that's in everybody, and that drew me
into the hole. What the is which is an almond
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shape Alban door La and of course Magdala and then
in Jamatria that is the one fifty three fish in
the net uh over to sixty five, which is the
people know that it's the sacred formula of Aristotles. And
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then you have that omygdala, which is in the limbic system.
Initially my book was going to be called the Arc
of the Ancients, or excuse me, Alchemy of the Soul,
the a Olympic system, and then limbic is your system
we process your memory, emotion movements, and it's that is
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and fight or flight, and it's more like the old
brain with their hippocampus, which is translates two seahorse and
then the Olympic system. That's how Also when you inhale
in aromatherapy, which I had taught us over and over
and over, in the two bipolar neurons, which goes into
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your olfactory, which is memory, and it stimulates memory right away.
So that's why when you when I even tell you
cut grass or coffee, you can smell both from memory.
And so that I had done more research on it
and found out how that amic della had shrunk after
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the teenage years in autistic children, but had over developed
in early years, and so that makes them very oversensitive
because it's fight or flight sensation, and so you don't
even have to touch some autistic you know, because there's spectrums
of it. Some of these artistic children, they they'll feel
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you before you even and get close. And I've communicated
and worked with them even telepathically has worked better because
I don't have to go towards them and so farth
I can sit and wait for them. And so anyway,
there's many, many studies, and even that was that was
all back in Gosh two and nine ten, whatever it was,
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and so then I learned it connected from me that
what we've done with is been so diletorious to the
divine feminine, which is half of who we are, that
this imbalance has made both feminine nature and masculine natures
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unwell down here. So we have these cartoonish extreme binary
versions rather than the cell of ration of the divine
feminine and the divine masculine. Is something to be grateful
for and to create the balance back on this planet
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that is very imbalanced. And I find that it's interesting too,
and I've written about this as well. I don't think
it must book, but the polar concept of multipolar which
is what Vladimir Putin's looking for from our own interpretation,
of world power and so forth. But it's all the
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pole and the pole shift, and the whole conversation about
the poles, the North Pole, the South pole, the flat Earth,
which I'm not advocating at all because I don't believe
in that. I'm fully aware of Meritosthenes as well as
I've been out of the planet itself on several occasions
and look to see the sphere know that that's true,
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other than a myriad of other things. And to me,
the whole flat earth story is one of those things
being pushed to confuse people more and conflate what's true.
And the whole idea of the heaven, the sphere and
kepler spheres and so forth, musical spheres and the idea
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of roundness and fullness and embodiment is all of that
gets polluted in that false story. So yeah, that was
So that's when I started looking that up and started
researching that further and further and further. And I have
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a lot of notes in the book about what you
can look at and the people that have done a
lot of wonderful research on that.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Tell us about your offerings at Arc of the Ancients.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Offerings at Ark of the ancient and thank you for asking.
So I create a lot of romatherapy products here for
to help people sleep, to help with pain. There's the
bone mover. There's the muscle Lease for people that work
out just to have muscle akes and pains, and that's
also real helpful. Other than the nutritional aspects that you
can always take, I always advocate that first to help
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with leg cramps or if you work out a lot,
and so forth. Then each thing has evolved further for
when something wasn't enough for someone. So I've gone all
the way up to the pain master, both in a
roll on application, which is easy and that came through
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actually just out of necessity the mother of invention with
someone back in nineteen ninety five or so. But anyway,
and then the creams I make, and they're design so
that they'll cover your surface, and they are I'm ready
to help absorb, because some create a viscous barrier so
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that you don't absorb, but you want to absorb the
power and the healing of those therapeutic essential oils. So
we have that. I have the wise Woman, which is
what Angel Gabriel gave me that formula for when he
visited me I have just many many Royalty blends and
headache relief and breathing for asthma, allergies, colds, flus. In fact,
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I use that for COVID. I've gotten over pneumonia myself
several times because I got pneumonia when I was sick
in the hospital and died. So many many things like that.
And that's at www dot orcancient dot com.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
And what would you like readers to take away from
Alchemy of the Soul.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I would like to help ignite their own spirit, if
it's not already, and if it is already further inflame
it so that they, as well as I and so
many others down here, will help set the world on
fire with the Holy Spirit, the fire that does not burn,
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which is what I believe and know in my heart,
is what this time is all about. And I believe
it is not the nice dream that wakes you up,
but the nightmare that shakes you wide awake.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Absolutely, my guest, my dear friend, Gloria O'Neil savage, her
book Alchemy of the Soul, The Arc of the Ancients. Gloria,
one more time, please share with our listeners where they
can get your book.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
You can get my book Amazon, and it's in two formats.
It's in hardback and it's in kindle right now, and
it's Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients
by Gloria O'Neil Savage.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
Gloria, thank you so much for joining us today and
sharing your remarkable and also your heart opening story.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, You'm so welcome, and thank you. Thank you so
much for having me, Victor.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
My pleasure, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
I'm Victor Lavoie Furman. Have a wonderful week.
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Destination Unlimited. Having several near death experiences and one where
she was given her last rites at the age of
seventeen was a wake up call for my guest this
week on Destination Unlimited, Gloria O'Neill Savage. It opened her
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to the concept of dimensionality, heaven on Earth, and vibrational medicine,
as well as other seeds planted in the crossover experience
that keep blooming in perfect timing and preparedness. Gloria is
a professional singer, associate Polarity practitioner, and certified educational instructor,
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Reiki Master, and interior designer. She's also a TSH Vibrational
Healing and Total Sensory Integration instructor and practitioner, as well
as a practicing aromatherapist and instructor since nineteen ninety five
and an astrologer since nineteen eighty. Her website is arcancient
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dot com and she joins me this week to share
her path and book, Alchemy of the Soul The Arc
of the Ancients. Please join me in welcoming to Destination unlimited,
my friend, the Gloria O'Neil Savage. Welcome, Gloria.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, Hi Victor, How are you wonderful?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well on this wonderful day over your overcast in Cleveland.
I'm actually doing fairly well. I have a light in
the world, and I have someone witnessing the light that
is also the light with me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Beautiful. Thank you, Gloria. Congratulations on your book, Alchemy of
the Soul The Arc of the Ancients, being ranked number
eight in Amazon's Miracles and Spirituality Group. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, thank you so much. I'm ecstatic. I'm gop smacked.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And we'll be discussing the book a little later. But
let's start with your early path. What was your life
like prior to your near death experience when you were seventeen,
From the standpoint of spirituality and what your aspirations were.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, I was a little bit of a different person,
so I spent a lot of time alone in Make
believe Land, singing and dancing and entertaining. I pretend all
kinds of things. I was a priest, I had a shopkeeper,
I had so forth go down in the park, because
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back then you got out of the house and you
didn't come back until the end of the day. And
so of course i'd be miles away even but I'd
go down to the what we call the valley, which
is the park down here, and there'd be fairy fields
and there would be these ain't tall life beings would
be I mean tallest trees, and they would stand and
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be laughing and gesturing with one another, and I would
sing and dance with them, and they would love it,
and I mean I would bow on everything. So I
did that. I told you previously. I played chess with
my father, which I love. And I like reading and
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filling my mind with whatever. And luckily we had books
at home, so I would digest as much of that
information as possible. And of course we always had the library,
and we had library days at school when we had
the bookmobile. And I was thinking just actually today, because
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I have so many teachers in my life or people
in charge or administrators or so forth, and I've been
thinking about what's happening with the education system for so
long now, and I've written a little bit about that
at the end of my book too, where I think
We're going, which is more to a Rudolf Steiner version
with using gardens and so forth. And I thought, why
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don't we have mobile set of just a mobile book,
which I don't even know if they have that anymore,
but mobile classes on a boss. So it would be
all set up for whatever class, history, designing, technology, whatever
that is, and you could design it to have the
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kids get right on the bus. And I try not
to use the word kid actually, because that's a baby
goat and the children is a more appropriate term there.
So I would do that, and I had some friends
who play with I would make stages in my backyard
on our picnic table and put a big curtain up
and invite the neighbors over, much to my mother's clagrete,
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because she would come home to this, and I'd play
records and sing and I'd be singing Wretha Franklin and
Sam and Day and with some barber stroke saying and whatever,
and to these adults that I had chair set up for.
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So I did that. Sometimes I'd make a little fair
back there, like a could make bake games and take
advice a gold wheel and make it so you could
spin it and it would stop. And I used I
think it was the strip from the Life game for
people to bet on, And I'd buy a great big
bag of popcorn at the store and sell cups of that,
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cups of kool Aid. And I just liked it. I
like inventing things.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So other than these light beings that you witnessed, you
had a fairly normal child to tell us about these
light beings.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, they're just tall emanating, like they're like like diffusing lights,
sort of like you see an aura, but stronger than that,
more more apparent for me to see than that, like
like steam light coming off of them, It would be
the best way to say it, where an ore is
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not somewhat it's kind of like steam, but it's not
diffusing like that, like that light is.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Standing. What was your understanding as to who they were?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I didn't really have one. All I knew is in fact,
that's in my book because I said, when are we
going to talk about the light being? How come people?
And I thought, because I was a mischievous child, like
not stealing, but just creating, Like what I just told
you type of things are getting kids to go on
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a adventure and tire our bikes and wagons up together
and being things like that that maybe I'm not or
I you know, believe it or not. I talked a lot,
and I would talking class or not have a lot
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of patience for people to come up with answers and
so forth. So I thought, maybe I'm just who mis
bad for them to everybody to talk about it, because
surely everyone knows about them. I didn't think I was
the only one seeing them. I just thought people were
not allowed to talk about it now because it was
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so apparent.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What happened when you were seventeen that led to your
near death experience.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So by the time I was seventeen in school, I
had transferred from Catholic school to a public school. And
part of the reason was because there were good looking
boys that were going down the street. I knew they
were going to the public school if it they in
the Catholic school, If I stayed in the Catholic School Magnificat,
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then I would have been there's no boys. So as
silly as the thought is when you're a teenager, it
was foremost in my mind all of a sudden. So
I went to a public school, and I knew I
didn't really know anyone except for a couple other people
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that left Catholic school, and really I started to get
picked on, and it's kind of it was scary at
the time, and so I tried to just start fitting
in as best as I could, you know, instead of
getting straight a's, my grades started to suffer. And because
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I was trying not because I was kind of getting
picked on because of being getting the answers, and I
wanted to be a cool kid. So I started to
not get straight a's, and I felt guilty about that
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with my parents then, who are working so hard, and
that now I'm not living up to a different part
of my obligation, which is to do the best I
can academically and so and get scholarship and all that
kind of stuff. And so I was feeling guilty and
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worse and worse and worse about myself, and I thought
maybe I should just not be here. And eventually I
really did get sick. And at the time I also
was working out at Halley's Downtown and go to school
in the morning and go to Kelly's at the afternoon,
my ankles started swelling. I mean, my feet were just
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killing me, and I'd have to take my high heels
off and try to put my feet on a cool
floor because they were just on fire and swollen. But
I just kept working. And then I was getting these tears,
which I know are migraines now, but I didn't know
that term at the time really, and i'd have to
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put my head down because it got so heavy and
would be just bringing away in me like a sorry
to explain, I'm sure migraine person can tell you you're blinded.
So that was another thing. And then I just couldn't really.
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It was got too hard for me to get up,
and so I lay in my back and I was
just told my mom under the covers. I would just say,
I'm not really well enough to go to school. I
don't feel so good, mom, And she was busy going
to work because my parents owned the store, so I'm okay,
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but she probably bring me some ginger ale or something
like that. And and my whole body started to swell
up and turn green, and then all of my joints
were red and flame like purple, like big bruises on
my wrists and elbows and ankles and knees so forth,
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and my fingers and clothes were like bludes. And so
I was proceeding to do this every day and telling
my mom, I still just don't feel so good. And now,
as an early younger child, I would get gladder infections,
and so it was kind of I would get sick.
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So it wasn't like completely out of the blue or
different from my mom and for me to have this
getting sick time. And one day I was one of
these days. I'm in bed and I hear a knock
on the back door, and I got in my bedroom watch.
I went to the porch off the back off the
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bathroom upstairs and looked down and I saw it as
my friend Denise, and I'm like, oh boy. So I
put my robot and managed my way downstairs, which was
really difficult, and I opened the door and she looks
at me and her mouth drops open, and she's like,
oh my god, what is really with you? And so
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she comes in and was sitting in the living room
and she says, hello, Oh my God, just said, does
your mom know? Does your mom seeing you? And I
go not really, I've been kind of hiding under the cover.
She goes, well, I'm calling your mom right now at
the store. No no, no, no, no no. She goes,
all right, well, then you call her. I'm like no, no, no, no, no.
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Don't bother them because they were busy working and you
didn't like to. I mean not that my parents were
cruel or something. They were just it was just kind
of how it was back then. People worked and it
was busy, and I didn't want to interrupt them, and
the other part of me was kind of ready to
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just go cross over because it was just so hard
to be down here. And other things that happened. Her
house was robbed, and I was already having these psychic
experience experiences and hearing things and hearing people's minds and thought,
so all these things were happening already, and I had
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no want to talk about that with and so, and
they were actually happening, and they bore themselves out. So anyway,
I said, I'll talk. I will tell my mom as
soon as she gets home from work, and so I did.
I said, Mom, I just really don't feel so good
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and I think that, and so she still doesn't see
me because I got I'm covered, and she's not looking
at the whites of my eyes, which were completely green,
and so she makes them. She takes me to the
emergency room and the doctor gives me a shot of adrenaline.
I said, I just can't stay awake anymore, and I don't.
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Everything hurts. Of course, they draw a blood and so forth,
and so he gives me a shot shot of adrenaline.
He says, I'm going to be back had to check
on you, and I said, well, can I just lay
down here and just and so he says yeah. So
I fell back asleep, and then he came back in
and he says, you feel any more energy? Do you
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feel less tired? And I said not really, and he
gives me another shot of returnlet and he says, and
I'll be back to check on you. And I well,
fell back asleep, and then he came back in and
the third time he gives me the shot of adrenaline.
I lied to him and said, yes, I'm starting to
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feel more energy because I felt bad for my mom
waiting for me when she worked so hard and she
needs to get some sleep. And so, you know, my
mom took me home then and then she says, I
think I'm just going to draw you a bath and
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said okay. So she's fill in the bathtub up and
then she leaves and I get in the bathtub it
she opens the door and she comes in and she looks.
I mean, she says, oh my god, did that actor
look at you? And I'm like nodding because I'm barely
staying awake. And she goes downstairs and I hear her
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on the phone screaming that the doctor he'd sent me home.
I'm I'm taking her back right away, and so she did,
and they wheeled me in and then that's really all
I remember until I died and crossed over and I
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start in a cute like Roman type cathedral, like stone marble,
and it's I can't see far back enough to home
far back. It goes with stadium style style seating but
not like cushions, and everything like stone, and everybody's praying
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and for forgiveness. They're going over their sins and it's
all in the same language, but it's not the language
I speak now, And the closest I can come to
it is Latin because I took Latin, but it wasn't that,
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and that's what made me become conscious of being in
this place was this loud murmuring and praying, and when
I looked down, I could see in the center of
this oval shaped space this three beings of light in
the center, a very large chair in the middle, and
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two like two people standing on either side, but there
were light. And then I saw light beings all around
that oval, praying and in such a state of blessed
like it was they achieved the highest honor you could
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put of what you could possibly achieve on the planet,
being where they were. And this is hindsight when I
come back and think about how that felt and looked
at what I was looking at. And then so I'm
continuing to go over my life and ask for forgiveness
for like I'm in confession or something, but I'm watching
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it like a movie, living it. And the next thing
I know, it was as if it was my time,
and I got sucked into that light and then everything
became this musical light soup, like I was swimming in
this light soup. Soup. The word soup's terrible because it's
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hard to it's not a very good word. Bath. Let's
put it that way, A bath of this beautiful And
then it was like in every cell of my body,
though I don't recall having body, and all I could
hear was this divine emanation singing into every cell you
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are love, I love you, I love you, I love you.
And the feeling of that was better than anything I've
ever experienced in my entire life, and I have had
some amazing and glorious moments down here. And then I
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was like, it was like that time, that cleansing, if
you will, that embedding of this bass bathing everything in
me with this light and it's not light light down
here either, it's a different it's a whole different light.
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It's an effusive, effervescent light. And then walking, but I
call it float walking because it's not like walking with
your feet and it's not like you're walking on the ground,
but you're sort of by the ground. And in fact,
when I can tell you this too, when I was
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in that stadium, everything I'm experiencing sensory wise is not
with the senses that we have down here. So it's
my third eye, which I know now I didn't know then,
and that has three hundred and sixty degrees as air comfortable,
so conferential view. And then how you hear is totally
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clear audiently but clear. Ah, And so float walking with
who I know of is Jesus. And you know it's
beautiful as a garden. What dreams may come kind of
comes close to it, as Robin Williams describes things and
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things like that. That's how this was, but more real
than anything here I've ever experienced. Dat Cainess also tell you.
And there's a girl, though, young girl that was painting
for I saw I found a long about ten years
ago or so, and she was painting heaven as a child,
and I thought that's very close. And so as we're walking,
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I now notice there's this long line because we're not
now there's this street, this avenue, all these different buildings
and houses, and there's a long lot of people going
up these stairs into this building. So I'm like, hey,
what's going on over there? And Jesus is like, okay,
you want to you want to go check it out?
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Of course I'm paraphrasing this, but we go over there
and I float walk up those stairs and into the
building and there on the cubicle to the side. As
I get closer and closer in further and further in,
I know these people more and more intimately, and the
other's cousins and so forth, until they're my siblings, my
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sisters and brothers in this room and my mother who's
completely wrecked, I mean, just like I've never seen her.
And my ottle nephew was probably three four years old
at the time, and he was at my oldest sister,
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Barb who has crossed over's knee and said, you know,
it's asking his mom, you know what's going on, and
she just shaking her head. She's got no words for him.
And that's completely unlike that, sister, Barbaush And so I'm
like what. Then I float back. We're in the ceiling,
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you know, opened the ceiling floating and that I looked
down and I see this casket and an instantly I'm like,
oh no, and I float over there and it's me
and I've zoom back to Jesus and I'm like, oh,
you got to get me, You got to get me back.
They can't handle this. And he's like, oh, you want
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to go back. I'm like, oh, yeah, you I can't.
I can't leave them like this. And then I became
conscious in my wob well, actually the first time was
becoming conscious. I started to wake up and my mom
was on my arm, crying and in the bed, in
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the hospital bed, and I looked up and I saw
Happy Days. Was that it was ten thirty And I said, no,
don't worry, I'm going to be okay. Jesus told me
I was going to be okay. He's like, oh, do
you even know? You're trying to make me feel okay?
And then I just said was it. I went out again.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm going to ask you to hold on. At that point,
we're gonna have to take a quick break. My guest
is my dear friend, Gloria O'Neill Savage. Her book is
called Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients. Gloria,
please share with our listeners where they can get your
book and find out more about you and your amazing story.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thank you. Well. You can find my book on Amazon
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can get it there.
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Pivotal Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week is
my dear friend Gloria O'Neil savage. We're talking about her
book Alchemy of the Soul, The Arc of the Ancients.
At the end of the last segment, you were talking
about sort of waking up from this near death experience
and your mother was there, and then you went back
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again what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
So then I was running in a jungle, sweating, and
I was barefoot, so I was like a native and
this black panther jaguar thing is jump running after me.
And I mean, I'm jumping and running and jumping and running.
And this is the part of memory I have of
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it because I was so far gone. I had died already.
And when I came to consciousness in my body, my
spirit had awareness in my body, but my body was
like it was not mine. It was like a tomb,
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like I was a sarcophagus of myself. And I could
tell there were there was I could hear the priest
and the two nuns next to me giving me my
last rites, and I could hear my mom crying and
trying to keep it together, and I'm trying to open
an eye and move something to let them know I'm here.
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I'm not gone, I'm here. And so then I'm out
of my body and I'm in the ceiling again, and
I'm trying to shake my mom. Mom, I'm here, I'm
not gone, I'm here, and the doctor is telling I
could hear and see the whole thing. The doctor's telling her,
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I'm sorry, but missus O'Neill, but you're gonna have to
just make preparations, you know, for your daughter, and you
know she's just not answering, and so forth. And I
could see the priest and the two nuns that I
could see my body. I'm like, oh my god. So
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i ll back in my body and I push and
push and push and push until I get my left
eye open, and they're they're standing at my left and
they are a bit startled, of course, and they realize, well,
I'm here. So then that starts a whole string of
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events that's happening with the team, the doctors and so forth.
And because I've got this green bio coming out my nose.
I got it coming out. I have a tube in
my mouth, I have tube out my side, and I
start to get sick. So now I'm trying to hold
my belly and I'm vomiting this stuff. Sorry to be
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so graphic, and and it's awful because I could now
my belly hurts, hurts, hurts, hurts, hurt, and my throat hurts.
My note because from the tubes and so forth. And
they come in, they rush in, and then they rip
open my stomach in the stitches and they stick a
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turkey baster in there to suck it out. And they
have opened me up from the middle of my breast
to the top mid part of my hip and cleaned
the organs as best as they could, because what had
happened was my appendix had ruptured and it was that
was in my system for like two weeks. So they said,
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she's not going to survive this previous to this, what
I'm telling you, and while I was out.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
And so.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But yeah, I did. I just that was it. I
was a whole nother place with God and came back
to Earth again to a lot of Pepe.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
When you returned from this happened when you returned from
this experience. How did it change your understand of the
divine and our relationship with the divine?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, I knew that God love knows me, and that
I just felt God loves everyone, and we just have
We just don't have a complete awareness. Something's happened. Every
not everybody knows this. I didn't even know that part
of it at the time. I mean, I knew there
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were these guides and so forth, but I didn't have
this connection that deep to know God the way at
that happ That experience created and it was it was
happy because I thought we'd never die. There's no death,
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and this animes we're animating this flesh, our soul and
spirit in this human body. But that's not who we are.
We're just this human body. In fact, I'll just tell
you a quick story why. I was doing yoga on
a beach some nineteen ninety three for something like that,
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and I felt myself, in final relaxation get hopped onto
the bot onto this beach like a baby and be born.
And I heard the universe speaking to me, saying, the
poor we will have with us always you. We will
only have this short time and That's when I had
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this instant under his comprehension that what that really means
is that we just have this who you're living. You've
got this life as Victor this time. I've got this
life as Gloria this time. And then the I could
feel the steam coming off me, and the yoga instructor, Linda,
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walks around and she looks down. She goes, oh, look,
we even have a baby being born. Look at the
steam coming off of her. So once again I'm witnessed.
And so that is this life that we have down here,
is this short time we have this incarnation as this person,
and we can wake up and remember as much as
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possible and reconnect to the divine that is within and without.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
And what led you to sharing your story in your
book Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Well, that's a great question, Victor. So I closed my
shop at the end of September of two thousand and
eight because I did the extract my last healing center,
and so I had done the astrology and saw that
so there's going to be this terrible crash, a mortgage
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crash in particular in October, and so negotiated out of
my lease with Marty. He was very nice about it
and very kind. And the month before and I came
home in one afternoon. It's sunny and it's nice, and
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I'm sitting in my yard. I'm by Dak and I'm like, well,
this is really nice. I haven't really experienced my own
yard in so many years because I'm always working. I
was always with the center or the school or the
teaching or the clients, and so it was like just
big kind of bathing in it and basking in this
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lovely sun sunny afternoon. And then all of a sudden,
I felt that presence of archangel Gabriel, which I now
know is Gabriel because I've had these other experiences saying,
you've done a great job, and you've finished the task
that we wanted you to do before, and now we
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have another task for you. And he said, now is
the time to write the book you came here with.
And I'm I'm just getting a rush telling you this
right now, And so that was it. I began to
write that book. But that was two thousand and nine.
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We could see it's taken all this time, and interestingly enough,
Pluto went into Capricorn in two thousand and nine, and
that squared my natal venus, and it took all this
time for Pluto now to go into Aquarius and forming
a grin to my natal venus and my natal my
venus is in Libra and my Mars is in Gemini,
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and it isn't it right now forming this grand air
trine and of course air communication. And so I find
all that it's just fascinating to live live it, to
see it, and to witness this alchemy, which is what
this is. So that's how I started to write the book.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
It's interesting that we share the common angelic partner, Gabriel.
I have shared this before. When I took my first
reiki class back in the late nineteen eighties, the teacher
had instructed us to place our palms over our hearts,
close our eyes, and see the first thing that came
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into our field. Division I did not have angel consciousness
up to that point, at least not in the traditional sense,
and immediately I saw what I perceived to be an angel.
And the teacher asked us to share what we were seeing,
and I said, I'm seeing an angel, and he said,
ask the angel its name, and immediately I responded, I
heard Gabriel. And that night I went home and my daughter,
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who was thirteen at the time, said she wanted to
try this reiki stuff that I was learning. And I
placed my palms over the back of her head and
she closed her eyes and she said, Daddy, I see
our family members who have passed before. She saw her
grandfather and several other people who had passed before she
was born, and she said, Daddy, there's an angel flying
above them. I had asked the angel it's name, and
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she responded, Gabriel. So that connection is really wonderful.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Mm hmm amen to that. Well, of course, that just
makes me. It's like I've got pop rocks going off
inside me in a great wonderful way.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
How did the spirit of Mary Magdalen? How did the
spirit of Mary Magdalene come into your life?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Well, she's come in different ways. I would say the
first and I think really the first first first time chronologically.
I mayn't be out of order here, but I would say.
Speaker 15 (41:53):
The the one time I was in my second shop
and that which was the Center, and that's where I
started the School for Alternative Health here in Cleveland, and
the Polarity School.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
And I had a landlord that was an attorney. It
was not a he's not on this path like this.
And I had to go down to a meeting in Columbus.
It's a couple of hours journey, and came back and
we had this big ice storm snowstorm here, and so
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the roof was melting. The water's coming in, it's going
into my case, into my computer, into the cash register,
into if things are floating in the display case, and
there's a big pocket above dripping, and ends up that
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the landlord says we should go up, I should go
up and shovel the roof. And I'm like, I'm not
going up and shoveling the roof. Well, it ends up
being a big fiasco. He comes huffing in. He's an attorney,
and he started yelling at us and calling us all
kinds of pretty names. And I had three customers there
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at the time as well at this point, and he
I said, no, you can leave now because you're not
resolving this issue and you can't be talking to us
like this, and we have the right to quiet enjoyment here.
And so he's I don't have to get out of
here atough I don't even go into the whole thing,
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but he ends up hitting my business.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
Partner in the face, and so we ended up we
call the police and they said, we know exactly who
you're talking about, because and they describe him, and they
tell us that they have to go down to the
bank quite often because he's down there raising a ruckus
about them cashing a check for him.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
My godchild, who's crossed over. Just this past November, sweetheart
had now done a search which I should have done
previous to standing a contract, and found out three ex
wives had filed abuse charges on him, and he got
away with all of it, being the longtime attorney in Cleveland,
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and everybody, I thought, We've got to go and file
charges against him for this, and everybody everybody advised me, No,
my mother, my coach, my mom's said, Gloria, you don't
want to work this hard for your business and lose
it like this. You shouldn't be fighting him. My coach says,
don't fight the boys in their own playground, because he's
(44:53):
an attorney. So I'm wrestling with all of this, and
I hear I'm standing behind my case one day in
the store all by myself, and I hear Mary, and
Mary says Gloria, I need you to do this for me,
and I said okay. Eleven day trial ensued, and it
(45:20):
was got awful. He had taken pictures because I had
reiki symbols and astrology. We had the blending bar with
romotherapy in there, and it was I mean, it was
a beautiful place. And he brought all this as evidence
that I'm a witch. So the judge ruled that he
(45:41):
could that they could say I was a witch because
he had this evidence. So he proceeded to call me that.
That's how they addressed me the witch for eleven days.
At one point I'm in the hall because they didn't
(46:02):
want to be in there, and you know, because he
was just trying to give me any which way to
go hard time. As I had re furbished that whole building,
brought the bricks walls, I had them sand blasted. I
did some of it. My nephew did some of it,
a friend of his, I mean, and it was gorgeous, okay.
And so in the hall down the hall is the
(46:26):
security guard and she's sitting at a desk and she
had a little radio on and I hear the son
Kaman from the Beatles letter B but Anyway, I found
out that these women were coming up to me saying
they also rented from him, and they were, you know,
(46:47):
they had children, and they were oftentimes not a good place,
and he was abusing them. So they thanked me.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
He was.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I mean they were sitding there giving the judge of
the anger and saying f you and walking out. I mean,
it was beyond abominable behavior. But he was found guilty
and he was eventually discard hm. So that was one occasion,
(47:19):
of course, the other one there was, there's many. One
time I was praying about why are there so many
autistic children and what's going on with all these energetic disorders.
This just doesn't right for you know, lupus and MS
and five from my aljab and autism and so forth.
(47:43):
And I hear Gloria, I'm nick Bella Magdala, and of
course I right away started research. I wrote that down
and I could see Brahma God Allah, my god Allah.
I thought, well, that's in everybody, and that drew me
into the hole. What the is which is an almond
(48:06):
shape Alban door La and of course Magdala and then
in Jamatria that is the one fifty three fish in
the net uh over to sixty five, which is the
people know that it's the sacred formula of Aristotles. And
(48:29):
then you have that omygdala, which is in the limbic system.
Initially my book was going to be called the Arc
of the Ancients, or excuse me, Alchemy of the Soul,
the a Olympic system, and then limbic is your system
we process your memory, emotion movements, and it's that is
(48:51):
and fight or flight, and it's more like the old
brain with their hippocampus, which is translates two seahorse and
then the Olympic system. That's how Also when you inhale
in aromatherapy, which I had taught us over and over
and over, in the two bipolar neurons, which goes into
(49:12):
your olfactory, which is memory, and it stimulates memory right away.
So that's why when you when I even tell you
cut grass or coffee, you can smell both from memory.
And so that I had done more research on it
and found out how that amic della had shrunk after
(49:36):
the teenage years in autistic children, but had over developed
in early years, and so that makes them very oversensitive
because it's fight or flight sensation, and so you don't
even have to touch some autistic you know, because there's spectrums
of it. Some of these artistic children, they they'll feel
(49:59):
you before you even and get close. And I've communicated
and worked with them even telepathically has worked better because
I don't have to go towards them and so farth
I can sit and wait for them. And so anyway,
there's many, many studies, and even that was that was
all back in Gosh two and nine ten, whatever it was,
(50:24):
and so then I learned it connected from me that
what we've done with is been so diletorious to the
divine feminine, which is half of who we are, that
this imbalance has made both feminine nature and masculine natures
(50:50):
unwell down here. So we have these cartoonish extreme binary
versions rather than the cell of ration of the divine
feminine and the divine masculine. Is something to be grateful
for and to create the balance back on this planet
(51:13):
that is very imbalanced. And I find that it's interesting too,
and I've written about this as well. I don't think
it must book, but the polar concept of multipolar which
is what Vladimir Putin's looking for from our own interpretation,
of world power and so forth. But it's all the
(51:38):
pole and the pole shift, and the whole conversation about
the poles, the North Pole, the South pole, the flat Earth,
which I'm not advocating at all because I don't believe
in that. I'm fully aware of Meritosthenes as well as
I've been out of the planet itself on several occasions
and look to see the sphere know that that's true,
(52:01):
other than a myriad of other things. And to me,
the whole flat earth story is one of those things
being pushed to confuse people more and conflate what's true.
And the whole idea of the heaven, the sphere and
kepler spheres and so forth, musical spheres and the idea
(52:24):
of roundness and fullness and embodiment is all of that
gets polluted in that false story. So yeah, that was
So that's when I started looking that up and started
researching that further and further and further. And I have
(52:45):
a lot of notes in the book about what you
can look at and the people that have done a
lot of wonderful research on that.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Tell us about your offerings at Arc of the Ancients.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Offerings at Ark of the ancient and thank you for asking.
So I create a lot of romatherapy products here for
to help people sleep, to help with pain. There's the
bone mover. There's the muscle Lease for people that work
out just to have muscle akes and pains, and that's
also real helpful. Other than the nutritional aspects that you
can always take, I always advocate that first to help
(53:22):
with leg cramps or if you work out a lot,
and so forth. Then each thing has evolved further for
when something wasn't enough for someone. So I've gone all
the way up to the pain master, both in a
roll on application, which is easy and that came through
(53:44):
actually just out of necessity the mother of invention with
someone back in nineteen ninety five or so. But anyway,
and then the creams I make, and they're design so
that they'll cover your surface, and they are I'm ready
to help absorb, because some create a viscous barrier so
(54:04):
that you don't absorb, but you want to absorb the
power and the healing of those therapeutic essential oils. So
we have that. I have the wise Woman, which is
what Angel Gabriel gave me that formula for when he
visited me I have just many many Royalty blends and
headache relief and breathing for asthma, allergies, colds, flus. In fact,
(54:26):
I use that for COVID. I've gotten over pneumonia myself
several times because I got pneumonia when I was sick
in the hospital and died. So many many things like that.
And that's at www dot orcancient dot com.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
And what would you like readers to take away from
Alchemy of the Soul.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I would like to help ignite their own spirit, if
it's not already, and if it is already further inflame
it so that they, as well as I and so
many others down here, will help set the world on
fire with the Holy Spirit, the fire that does not burn,
(55:09):
which is what I believe and know in my heart,
is what this time is all about. And I believe
it is not the nice dream that wakes you up,
but the nightmare that shakes you wide awake.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Absolutely, my guest, my dear friend, Gloria O'Neil savage, her
book Alchemy of the Soul, The Arc of the Ancients. Gloria,
one more time, please share with our listeners where they
can get your book.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
You can get my book Amazon, and it's in two formats.
It's in hardback and it's in kindle right now, and
it's Alchemy of the Soul The Arc of the Ancients
by Gloria O'Neil Savage.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
Gloria, thank you so much for joining us today and
sharing your remarkable and also your heart opening story.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, You'm so welcome, and thank you. Thank you so
much for having me, Victor.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
My pleasure, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
I'm Victor Lavoie Furman. Have a wonderful week.
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