Kim “Skipper” Corbin

Air Date - 11 June 2025

I am thrilled to share that my very first guest on Destination Unlimited from March of 2016, Kim “Skipper” Corbin, joins me again this week to share her amazing path. Kim is the Publicity Director and Social Media Manager of New World Library. She has also been a passionate promoter of the benefits of adult skipping since 1999 via her http://iskip.com website, which offers an information source and gathering place for people all over the world who enjoy a good skip. She’s working on her own book about what she’s learned through skipping through the years. And tonight, she will also share about the blessings of The Unicorn!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
we will explore these topics and so much more with
fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to

(00:28):
Destination Unlimited. I am thrilled to share that my very
first guest on Destination Unlimited from March of twenty sixteen,
Kim Skipper Corman, joins me again this week to share
her amazing path. Kim is the publicity director and social

(00:52):
media manager of New World Library. She's also been a
passionate promoter of the benefits of adult skipping since nineteen
ninety nine via her i skip dot com website, which
offers an information source and gathering place for people all
over the world who enjoy a good skip. She's working

(01:14):
on her own book about what she's learned through skipping
all these years, and tonight you will also share about
the blessings of the Unicorn. Please join me in welcoming
back to Destination Unlimited, Kim Skipper Corbyn. Welcome back, Kim.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thanks so much, Victor, it's a joy to be here
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Kim, you were the first guest on my first show
back in twenty sixteen. Welcome back. It's so nice to
have you back. And you also recently celebrated a milestone
at New World Library. Please share with our listeners meeting
you for the first time your early path and how
your career evolved.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Wow. My early path, well, my early I grew up
in the Midwest in Indiana. I went to Purdue University,
but I did not have a very good college experience.
I just didn't fit in in college. And then I
ended up seeing a career counselor long story short, became
a teaching assistant. And then when I had a teaching

(02:16):
assistant job, my dad wrote and self published a book
called The Edge Resume and Job Search Strategy. And I
fell in love with the book and convinced him that
he should hire me to help him sell it, and
so he matched my five dollars an hour teaching salary,
and I taught myself the book publishing industry. And then

(02:38):
I met a guy, amazingly enough in an Aol chat
room in nineteen ninety six who lived in San Francisco
and ended up getting an entry level publishing job from
Indiana and moved to San Francisco, and now you know,
there's like a we'll get to some of the middle
stuff that happened in there. But now for twenty years

(02:59):
I've been at New World Library. I'm currently the publicity
director there and working with authors like Eckertole and Shottigwayne
when she was still with us, and just thought leaders
that are helping to shift consciousness on the planet in
a more positive direction.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Absolutely now, I opened our first interview by sharing the
exact following words. With all of the heavy news in
the world right now, how about skipping back to something
we love to do as kids, skipping. My guest, Kim
Skipper Corbyn a social media manager, book publicist by day,
and passionate promoter of the joy of adult skipping by night.

(03:42):
She created the I Skip dot com website in nineteen
ninety nine when she started skipping as an adult and
decided to invite the rest of the world to join her. Kim,
what inspire you to create eskip dot com and inspire
everyone else to start skipping?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's it is my calling, It's my primary calling in
this lifetime is to share the joy of skipping with
the world. I can say that now twenty five years
and quite the hero's journey in that this is just
something that it's my dharma, it was meant to be.
And the first time that I skipped as an adult,

(04:20):
I had a complete download, intuitive download is what I
call it, where I thought, oh my gosh, I can
get my friends to skip with me. I could use
my publicity skills to get some publicity and then people
would feel brave enough to skip. And over the course
of the last twenty five years, that is that vision
has come true and taken me for a creative ride

(04:41):
that I could not have even possibly imagined, including ending
up at New World Library. And it's it's been a long, strange,
wonderful skip.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
And what do you offer on i skip dot com?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I skip dot com is just the home of the
worldwide skipping movement. It has all of the latest skipping
new For instance, just recently, an Olympic trainer, a coach
named Stuart McMillan was on the Huberman Lab podcast and
he is really into sprinting and apparently skipping is one

(05:14):
of the best exercises you can do if you want
to be able to sprint and run full out and
so he was promoting skipping on there. So the current
first thing you see when you hit the website is
that right now. And then other people that I've met
along the years that have done skipping accomplishments are in
the Skipping Hall of Fame. There's skip tips and videos

(05:37):
and people's testimonials about why they love skipping, and it's
just it's all things skipping wonderful.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now, what was your life like before you rediscovered adult skipping.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, I moved. I'm from Indiana, like I said, and
so I was a lot of Midwestern sensibilities were the
starting point for me. And shortly after I moved to
San Francisco, I went to Burning Man for the first time,
and Burning Man completely shifted everything for me. It really
helped me understand that I could be a creative participant

(06:12):
in each moment of my life. And my first year
at Bernie Man was nineteen ninety seven. There was a
big sign on center camp that said no spectators, like
everyone should be participating and that has stuck with me
even after that very first Burning Man. I made a
promise to myself that I was going to do whatever
I could for me to greet life with the same

(06:36):
way that the mindset that I had discovered there, even
though the rest of the world hadn't yet discovered how
great it is to live life that way. It really
completely shift shifted my philosophy in a major way.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
And for those of us who are east of northern California,
tell us what the Burning Man is about.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Burning Man is a festival that happens in the desert
every year. It's about an hour and a half from Reno,
and it is we build a black rock city is
it becomes i think the third largest town in Nevada
during the week of the event, and it's a fully
operational town where everyone just gifts and brings the things

(07:15):
that the town needs to to to thrive. And there's
lots of big scale art and artists and it's a
gifting economy and it's it's pretty incredible. You look at
the website, you'll see that the amount of art that's
out there, and it's in a very intense environment that
really puts you in touch with your body and ways

(07:38):
that we would never never know in our air conditioned
existence in the regular world.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And who is the man who burns.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
The man is? It's an effigy it's a bit in
this in the middle of the town, there's a gigantic
neon man that kind of oversees everything and it burns
at the end. And it started Larry Harvey way way
back in the eighties on Baker Beach in San Francisco.
He and some friends had done a burning man and
it was representing like a right of change, right of passage,

(08:10):
new beginnings, and so that's kind of the larger symbolism.
And each year, for a lot of people, it's their
new year every year. I just went for the first
time in nine years last year, which was great. And
it's a much harder to go when you're fifty six
than when you're thirty one, which is how whole I

(08:31):
was when I first started going.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Absolutely, you're launching the adult skipping movement became a national
news story. What coverage did this receive and how did
it make you feel?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh my goodness, it got so much national publicity. I mean,
I'm a publicist, so it was not anything that I
was actually like with my authors, where I'm going out
seeking it. The publicity came to the skipping movement. I
was in People and Time and Newsweek and CNN and
the Associated Press on Year's Day and I recruited head skippers.

(09:07):
This is really before social media. It was nineteen ninety nine,
so Facebook and Instagram and all that wasn't out there yet,
but it was one of the first examples of a
community coming together in a very specific area via the Internet.
And the media largely drove that, Like when the La
Times did a story and they said I was looking
for someone to head up the LA chapter and then

(09:29):
I got a bunch of emails from people. So it
was very much a media driven adventure that was beyond
my wildest dreams.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And how did your colleagues react to this?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
My friends like mix, I would say, like some people
were really into it. I lost a lot of friends
along the way where I was changing and growing and
they weren't, which I think happens when we're pursuing a dream.
And then you know, my colleagues at the Public Shore
where I worked with at the time, we're completely into it.

(10:02):
And my boss was kind of bummed when I ended
up quitting my job because I was so convinced that
I'd found my calling that I thought that if I left,
the net would follow. My dad used to say, how's
the cash registering Kim, and I'd say, it doesn't matter, Dad,
the universe will show me. I was very young and
naive and did not have a very firm understanding of

(10:23):
the gravitas it takes to bring a dream, a big,
big dream into the world, and so I've learned a
lot about that over the last twenty five years and
wouldn't trade it for the world.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know, it's interesting. There was a song by the
Woody Blues called Through the Eyes of a Child, and
the lyric went, in part, through the eyes of a child,
you must come out and see that your world spinning
round and through life. You must be a small part
of a whole of a love that exists. With the
eyes of a child, you will see. That's really what
this is about, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Very much?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's being able to get into a place of childlike
joy and wonder and curiosity. I mean that, ultimately, is it.
And then it's also worth mentioning that alongside that wonderful,
magical child is a can be a child that's been
pretty traumatized and beat up and hurt by life. And
so I just recently had the great honor of interviewing

(11:20):
Peter Levine, the trauma researcher, Peter Levine, He's very pro skipping,
and part of the reason why is because it helps
connect us to that child from a joyful place instead
of coming in you know, like with really heavy therapy
and stuff like that. It's a way into the into
that realm so that we can start to do the

(11:40):
healing that we need to do to give the part
of our child that was wounded, our inner child that
was wounded, the love that she needs.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's something that's something every child needs, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, and every adult.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
And every adult absolutely.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
After more than two and a half decades of the
eye Skip movie, how has your life changed?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh? My goodness, Wow, that's a good question. My life.
It's I just I love my life. I just feel
like it like I am using my life to make
a positive difference. And that's my number one value. That's
always been the most important part. That's what the skipping

(12:23):
movement helped me experience. And then that's shown up in
a lot of different ways over the twenty five years,
not just through skipping, but just being open and listening
and willing to say yes when the universe gives me
creative inspiration and opportunities to do good in the world.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
I was.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm a do gooder and proud of it.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Absolutely. That's interesting that you say that, because throughout my life,
one of my blessings has been a series of synchronicities
what Carl Jung referred to as meaningful coincidence without causal connection.
And one of these opportunities came. One of these synchronicities came.
I had three choices. I could say not right now

(13:06):
and dismiss it out of hand. I could say, you know,
that's interesting, but not for this moment, for the future.
Or I can say yes with a capital why and
immediately embrace it. And every time I said yes with
the capital why, the next one would come, and the
next one would come. Did you find that in your life? Also?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Absolutely? Absolutely that you know there was a there was
this very specific time during the skipping movement where you know,
it was for a couple two three years, it was
like everything was going really well, and then all of
a sudden, I had the book that I was working on,
the contract didn't sell, and I was I had to
get a job, and I was like feeling very disillusioned

(13:44):
and really like asking the universe like why I said yes?
Why I thought my reward for saying yes was going
to be this straight shot upward of had to fame
and fortune, you know. I really that was really hour
that I would be rewarded for doing well. And I'm like,
I just want to do good. I just want to
do good, Like how can I serve? And I was
I've made a very specific prayer about that. And then

(14:07):
I walked to the gym the next morning and I
encountered this woman who was having I didn't know what
was going on with her. She was like, it seemed
like she was talking in tongues and she was kind
of coming up to people and seemed confused. And it's
San Francisco, so it's not uncommon for people who were
on the street for that to happen to But my
intuition just said something like, no, she needs help. And

(14:28):
so I went up to her and I said, do
you need help? And she did. She was actually in
the middle of a major diabetic reaction and like so
many people had passed her by, and I like got
her and I knew enough from a friend who'd been
diabetic to get her a coke to like get her
blood sugar, you know, like within a more normal range,
and waited for her boyfriend to come and pick her up.

(14:49):
And that to me was an answered prayer of the
question of how can I serve you? It can be
those opportunities come in all shapes sizes, and sometimes it's
for a lifetime, like I think. I mean, so many
people know me as skipper. I feel like skipping at
one way or level, will be with me for my lifetime.
But then sometimes it's just for a reason, like helping

(15:11):
that woman. And sometimes it's for a season for things
that you think are going to last forever and then
they don't, but they really served to purpose. So yes,
I think that that inspiration comes around. And actually the
skipping movement, the first time it came around, I'd said
not right now, which is very common for when people
have callings come in you can you say not yet,

(15:31):
But then if it's meant for you, it does come
back around. And I did say yes the second time
around on skipping. But I love to say yes whenever
I can because it's it always brings just fun and
magic and all that jazz.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You know. It's interesting what you're shared about that encounter
with that woman and helping her. One of the things
that I've advocated for years. I'm seventy two now, I've
been advocating since I was in my late thirties is
that we have to start extending kindness and understanding and
help to those who truly need it. And you meet

(16:10):
someone on the street and they seem to be in
a bad way, and you say, can I listen to you?
Do you want to share something with me? I'm here
to listen without judgment, without interfering with what you're sharing,
to allow you to complete your sharing. How many people
start crying and embrace just the simple act of someone

(16:30):
offering to listen to them.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It's so true. And it's like in our world, we're
just so much on our phones, and you know, in
our own head and busy worrying about what other people
are going to think about us, that it's easy to
forget that. But it really is true that the power
of that holding space and just listening to someone's story
can make such a difference. It actually reminds me. I'm
working on a book right now called The Friendship Bench

(16:56):
by doctor Dixon Chimbonda, and he starts arted a program
in Zimbabwe. He's from Zimbabwe. He's a psychiatrist. There. After
one of his patients committed suicide, there was only six
psychiatrists for all of Zimbabwe, like one psychiatrist for millions
of people, and so he knew he had to figure

(17:16):
out a way of giving mental health support in that
people could actually like that would help the people. And
so he worked with fourteen grandmothers and he started this
program where grandmothers sit on a bench and the people
come and just get to sit and they're just tick
trained in basic cognitive behavioral therapy where it's just like

(17:38):
if someone needs more help, they get referred on to
medical help. But for the most part, people just need
We just need someone to sit with us and hold
space and let us be seen and heard and tell
our stories. There's so much power in that.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Simple acts of kindness. I was blessed with a mother
who taught me about kindness. And one of the things
she taught me when I was very young is if
you go through a door, you hold the door, look
behind you, see if someone else is coming. If you
see someone, hold the door for them or anyone else's
coming behind you, and then let the door shut and
that's simple act of kindness. You see people light up

(18:16):
today when you do something like that, never expecting that
people in this hurried world would take the time to
just hold a door for somebody.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Absolutely, and again that's part of what I brought back
from Burning Man with me, because Burning Man's very much
about that and each moment and each person you're engaging with,
how can you bring more creativity and fun and play
and magic to the moment, and just kind of thinking
in that way like I can. Every little bit helps,
and just a smile to someone at the right time

(18:46):
can make all the difference in the world.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Recognizing someone who's serving you at an a counter or
a checkout or something, they're asking them their name, thanking
them for their service if they've given you great service,
or walking up to someone who seems to be struggling
with to take something off an upper shelf and saying
may I help you with that? Always with permission, but
may I help you get that box or that package?
And the smiles that you get and the gratitude that's

(19:10):
expressed is just priceless. Yes, absolutely, Now, what are some
of the fun ways to put a skip in your step?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh, let's see well, my favorite thing to do is
to go like at the gym and then empty workout
room in the morning when there's not a class going on,
and pick one song that really like The Fat Bottom
Girls by Queen's one of my favorites, and just like
put on a song that just brings me, makes me
feel silly and it brings me joy, and then just

(19:46):
skip around and lift my vibration. And that's my preferred way.
I just actually recently, skipping for me largely has been
about the fun, free spirited aspect of it, more than
going from miles and miles, which some people do. There's
people have skipped in the Higher marathon, but for me,
it's always been about the fun. But just recently Stuart McMillan,

(20:08):
who was on the Huberman Lab podcast, is giving having
people do skipping drills where you skip to you know,
for like for fifty meters and then turn around and
walk back and do that over and over again and
do different variations. And so I've been playing with that
a little bit, as like skipping intervals with more of
a fitness mindset. Sometimes when I'm outside, I'll just you know,

(20:33):
skip every time I come to a picket fence, I'll skip.
I'll play that as a game. Oh, and crosswalks are
my favorite. Skipping in the crosswalks the best because everyone's
that's sitting there waiting for you wants you to go fast,
and so you can just break into a skip and
then he brings a little levity and joy and then
they get on their way faster so they're happy.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Absolutely. I remember when I was a kid, there was
a song called skip to Malu Lost my partner? What'll
I do? Skip to Malouma Darling? Do you ever skip
to Malou?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
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Speaker 2 (21:05):
I love that. There's lots of fun variations of that
too out there.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
My guest is Kim Skipper Corbyn. Kim please share with
our listeners like and find out more about you about
I skip dot com and also the special event having
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Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, my dear
friend Kim Skipper Corbyn. Kim is coming back to us
after my first show. She did my first show with
me back in twenty sixteen, and she's back to share
her amazing path with us today. Kim, what are some
of the fun ways to put a skip in your step?
Do you have a favorite?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, the cross is skipping in the crosswalk like I
like we just said earlier is definitely the is my favorite,
one of my favorite ways. And then in the in
the workout room, and then you can also skip on
the treadmill at the gym. That's something that I recommend
that's more advance. It is better to like skip on

(25:01):
solid ground first you have to and you can just
skip around your living room or skip around your house,
or you can ask a kid to skip with you,
say I it's been a long time since I skip.
Will you show me how to skip again? And then
that is a nice way to not just be an
adult out skipping around If that makes you feel subconscious.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
What are the physical emotional and spiritual benefits of skipping.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, the physical benefits is that it has less impact
on our joints. That's than running us and it's actually
really good for the fashia. It burns more calories than walking.
It makes us feel like a kid. Again, that's the
one of the favorite one. But probably my ultimate way

(25:48):
that I use skipping as a practice is that, even
to this day, twenty five years after I started skipping,
I have this internal dialogue that happens and my rational mind,
that's job is to protect me and keep me safe, says.
It used to say, people are going to think you're
crazy adults don't skip. It doesn't say that anymore. Now
it's more like you're going to annoy people with your joy.

(26:11):
Don't make it all about you. It always has something
to say. And then the voice of my heart, the
voice of my spirit, loves to skip. And so it's
even to this day, it is a conscious choice for
me to choose the joy, to choose the voice of
my heart, to listen to the joy of my body
and follow that and not let my mind that wants

(26:33):
to protect me stop me. And over the years has
become it's like a meditative practice really of choosing, choosing
the joy, choosing that voice, and so I recognize that
same pattern and dynamic happening when I do other things,
like writing the book I've been struggling to write for
twenty five years. That voice will say, really, you're going

(26:55):
to try this again. We have been so burned and
hurt by this. You're never going to be able to
write this book. And then something deep within me that's
even greater says, Nope, I've got to do this. I
won't be able to rest until I do this. I'm
doing it anyway. And then each time that I'm able
to actually sit down and not let the rational voice

(27:17):
stop me, the spirit, my spirit and the voice of
my heart gets stronger, and that allows me to fulfill
the work that I'm here to do in the world.
So I think that's personally my favorite. And then it
just makes the world a happier place. You can't skip
without smiling. Most you think that people are going to
like make fun of you, but almost always people either

(27:39):
ignore you or they're like, ah, skip to my lou
way and like things like that. So it really is.
It brings so much joy to the world. And if
you do it with other people. It's exponential joy. So
there's all kinds of benefits of skipping.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
You bring up an interesting point. You talk about the
voice of your heart and strengthening the voice of your heart.
How do you differentiate between the voice of your heart
and let's say the ego.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Voice, that ego logical voice that's trying to protect you
is it's it's going to be protection. It's going to
be like, oh, be careful, watch out. Have you thought
about this. It's very rational, and the voice of our heart,
the voice of our spirit, is just it's that that
childlike joy that lives in our body. It's the part
of us that believes that anything's possible. Still, it's what

(28:28):
we would do if we couldn't fail. It's the dreamer.
It's it's the part that you know. And then and
then it often will trigger that rational side says, oh,
but be careful you're gonna do. We don't want you
to get hurt. It's like that rational side is really
protecting some you know, wounded, traumatized parts of us, and
that that it doesn't want us to you know, it'll

(28:51):
try and stop us. So the so that magical voice
of the child within is really, I think, are the
key to our joy, and happiness.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Kind of finds me the old cartoon where you'd have
the devil in one ear and the angel in the
other ear trying to tell you what to.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Do right exactly, and then the power comes in our
ability to choose and to see what's going on, and
then to for whatever the situation is, pick which of
those sides. It's not that one's wrong or right. For
the longest time, I used to say that it was
my inner critic trying to stop me from skipping, and
I was going to skip past my inner critic. And

(29:27):
I've realized over the years that my inner critic is
just doing its job. It's a Bill Plotkin calls it
a loyal soldier who's there to defend me, and it
really is trying. And as long as I have my
own awareness and presence and I can see that that's
what's happening, I don't have to demonize it. I don't
have to try and squash it, because that doesn't work.

(29:47):
I can just thank it for it trying to protect
me and then make a choice, another choice from a
place of awareness between that angel and that devil that
are on our shoulders.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
In the world that needs to be a happier place.
How does skipping come into play?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
It brings joy and freedom and reconnects us with that
childlike innocence that can be in such short demand in
the overall world sometimes.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And how do we embrace everyone and get them involved?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, not everyone's going to skip. I had to come
to that realization too at some point along the way.
But I think it's just encouraging everyone to embrace their
own uniqueness and the things that bring them joy. Not
everyone's going to be a skipper, but everyone has something
from their childhood or just the little simple pleasures that

(30:41):
make them happy and bring them joy. In today's world,
our joy is a revolutionary act, and our world needs
people who are loving life and choosing joy and remembering
the magic that's there alongside with just the all the
craziness that's going on, which we talked about in our
first interview. And now look it seems it's like compared

(31:04):
to then, it's like it's even crazier now. So the
world needs that joy more than ever.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I was going to say, not much changes the list, ye,
And what do you say to people who, shall we say,
are skip? Curious.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, I would say take it slow, find a friend,
skip around your house at first. You know, like you
don't have to be out skipping all around, but just
know that you're just just give it a try. It's
like riding a bike. Well, actually that's not totally true.
I don't know if you saw on TikTok last year,
there was this TikTok skipping challenge where people would ask

(31:42):
older people in their lives to skip again, and so
many people couldn't do it. There's like it's really it's
you can lose hours on TikTok if you if you
search for the hashtag skipping challenge.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Just out of curiosity. I had my left knee replaced
back in September of last year, and that I had
to have it done, does that inhibit me from skipping again?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I would ask your doctor about that. My husband just
had both of his hips replaced at the same time,
and in that case with his I don't know about knees.
Both his hips he was given skipping clearance from his doctor,
so I'm not sure with knees. But you always should
listen to your body and if there's any question, you know,
ask ask your doctor what they suggest absolutely.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Back in nineteen sixty two, Shel Silverstein, the writer and
singer and songwriter and the comedian, penned the song the
Unicorn Song. It was a hit for the Irish rovers
and the lyrics started a long time ago when the
earth was green and there were more kinds of animals
than you've ever seen. They'd run around free while the

(32:48):
earth was being born. But the loveliest of them all
was the unicorn.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yes, I love that song.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
That song implied that in the modern day, the unicorn
was to be seen anymore. But I understand that you
have rediscovered the unicorn. Please tell us about the movement
you started cheering about a little bit before. Tell us
about the movement.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, okay, so let's see this. I started in a
group here in my hometown of Petaluma, California, called the
Unicorn Blessing Brigade, And it came to be because my
friend and co organizer Tracy, sent me a TikTok video
of a bunch of people at a fortieth birthday party
and they were all writing those costumes that it looks

(33:32):
like you're writing an animal, like your back legs are
the animal's back legs, and then your hands are like
on the reins. And there was like there was unicorns,
and there was flamingos, and there was cow, there was
all chickens. There's all different kinds. And when I saw
the video, I had an inspiration that you know, that calling,
that inner call to do something fun. And I've always

(33:55):
loved unicorns, and I heard of unicorns is called a
blessing and when you see a unicorn, it's supposed to
bring good luck. So I live in a very fun
small town, smallish town, not really small, it seems small,
but it's a big town. And I put out a
Facebook evite and said calling all unicorns. And it was

(34:15):
actually the day that Roe versus Wade got overturned, which
I remember just because it was really significant the night
that it happened, and I encouraged everyone to get riding
unicorns and said, I want to ride around town to
bless the people that we encounter along the way. All
of us either dressed as unicorns, are on riding unicorns,
and we had forty people come out. It reminds me

(34:37):
of the really skipping days and the events I used
to do back then, and then ever since then we
have been a group that rides around town, and we
have about twelve people that are very consistent group people,
and then we have new people come in always. And
we're about to have our third anniversary here in Pedaluma
on Friday the thirteenth, and then I'm taking this show

(35:00):
on the road to New York. New York starts spreading
the news. We're gonna do a Unicorn Blessing Brigade through
Central Park. And my friend Michelle Joni, who I know
because she started Michelle Joni's Skipping Club in New York
many years ago, probably fifteen years ago now or something
like that ten years ago, she happens to have a

(35:22):
unicorn bus called Glinda the Good Bus, which looks like
a unicorn, it has a horn on it. It's just
and she like drives people around, like for bachelorette parties
and all parties. So we're going to be Glinda the
Good Bus and the Unicorn Blessing Brigade are joining forces,
and we're gonna meet at fifty ninth and Columbus Circle
and then we're gonna at the beginning of all of

(35:44):
the Unicorn rides, we go around and everyone talks about
what aspect of positive energy they're bringing to the ride.
Our only intention is to share joy and positivity. It's
not a protest, it is a celebration. It's a positive
energy pep rally. And so we're going to start at
fifty ninth and Columbus Circle with Glinda. We'll go around

(36:04):
and do our opening circle, and then we're going to
ride through the park and we're going to end up
at the Imagine Mosaic where the Glinda the Good Bess
will meet up with us again, and then some people
will board Glinda and everyone else will follow her and
we're going to go to a place for a happy
hour afterwards. So I'm really excited to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's wonderful. Now, does everyone who attend to have to
have a unicorn costume?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Absolutely not, Like everyone's welcome. We will have like some
like little plastic and other unicorn horns for people if
they don't have anything they want to you know, unicorns,
and or you can just come and join the fun
and you know, frolic alongside us if you want to.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
And how can those who are going to be in
the area and like to attend, how can they register
for this?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
There's an on event if you go to event bright
and search for Unicorn Blessing Brigade Central Park will come up.
And also on Facebook, there's a Facebook event page as well,
Unicorn Blessing Brigade on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
And that's going to be June twenty second, is that correct?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
That's June twenty second, Sunday, June twenty second, from two
to five pm.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Wonderful. That sounds like such a grand time. And I'm
hoping I can't guarantee you'll be there, but I'm hoping
I get a chance to see you there and say hello.
That that would be love.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
That would be amazing. Yeah, you can just come at
the beginning, or like, even if you don't make it
to the beginning, you could go. I think it's going
to be a place called Plia Betty's where we're going
to go for a happy hour after, So that'd be great.
Any You're welcome at any point along the way.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
So.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
You had mentioned this book that's been fighting you for
several years. What's the concept of the book.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
The book is called Skipping the Life Fantastic Ten Things
I learned about Joy, Fear and making a difference by
inviting the world to skip and it has and is
been a labor of love, tortuous label of labor of love.
And for the first time in you know, I've been

(38:06):
writing it for twenty years and one form or another,
and I worked with a developmental editor last year, and
I have it. It's like, really, the body of the
book is there, and I'm just going through and filling
it in and doing some I'm actually working with the
hypnotherapist right now to just help me like go as
deep as possible within my subconscious to get to help

(38:30):
the parts of me that need healing heal so that
I can see this all the way through. So it's
it's pretty exciting. I'm I'm working on it a little
bit every day and I'm I'm I have faith that
this will be the time, but it could be ten
more years, you know, like we'll see.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
You called it a labor of love. It really sounds
like you're in labor. Is that true?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Literally, like twenty five twenty years of labor, no joke.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
So let's touch upon some of the points that you're sharing.
The first point is the magic happens outside of our
comfort zone.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yes, And this is kind of what I was talking
about my first burning Man. I almost didn't go to
my first burning Man because it was clothing optional. I
was so scared to go. And if I went, and
I it got to experiment with a whole new, different
part of my personality. And then that was where the
really the magic started happening in my life. And I

(39:23):
think that I'm actually listening right now to Joe Despens's
book How to Break the Habit of Being Yourself, And
in order to create change in our life, we have
to challenge the ways we've been and bring in new ways.
And so that's really the focus of that chapter is
starting to think about how how can we change so

(39:44):
that we can welcome the magic we want into our lives.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And we were talking before about the voice of the heart.
You say that the still small voice within knows the way.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yes, absolutely, And this is just really taking the time
to listen in to sit quietly and to get that
rational mind that when you try and sit for five minutes,
has all the things you should be doing and go, go, go, go, go,
get beyond that voice to the deeper wisdom that lies
within all of our hearts and starting to make room

(40:16):
for it in our lives so that we can hear
what it wants us to do.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Albert Einstein said, the definition of insanity is trying to
do the same thing the same way over and over again.
You say, nothing changes, if nothing changes.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yes, And this one, this chapter is like what we
were saying earlier about the big yes with the capital y.
This is, you know, until we say yes, until we
take action. Actually, just having the inspiration isn't enough. We
have to take focused action in the material world in
order for our dreams to become a reality. And so

(40:52):
that's the focus of this chapter is baby steps, action steps,
moving forward and getting things out of the realm of
imagine nation and possibility and into this world.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
And then you say, it's never too late to have
a happy childhood.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yes, Actually I came up with that title after my
interview with Peter Levine talking about healing from trauma, healing
the traumatized child and finding the magical child and how
like that's kind of our part of a big part
of our jobs as adults is to go back in
and help that child that needs healing so that we
can tap into the joy and the fun and the

(41:29):
magic of our childhood that maybe we didn't even get
to have very much in our childhood. Because of our
circumstances like we can always find the courage and the
strength to start giving those things to ourselves.

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Speaker 1 (44:52):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week my dear
friend Kim Skipper Corbin Kim. Some of the additional points
that you wanted to discuss in your book. You will
annoy people with your joy. Why do people get annoyed
at your joy.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Well, if you are not feeling your own joy and
someone you know has a lot of joy, it's it
can be triggering. And I mean when I first started
the skipping movement, I was voted the moro on of
the month on a website and bring down dot com.
Some of my friends, like I had to move find,

(45:29):
you know, make new friends because a lot of them
couldn't go forward. So it's just it's just that will happen,
and it's be joyful anyway. The Paradoxical Commandments, that's what
it's called, So Kent Keith actually wrote them, and it's
and it's attributed to mother Teresa often and it reminds
me of that, like you will annoy people with your
joy and be joyful anyway, and and just be be

(45:53):
prepared to protect yourself from that, I think is important
to do. When I very first started the skipping movement,
I can remember I was like enthusiastic telling this cab
driver about it and he said, well, has anyone like
been negative about your idea yet? And I said no,
And he said, well, well you know, what are you
going to do when they are? Because they will And
it just kind of got me thinking about it. I'm
like even eckhart Tole we published The Power of Now

(46:15):
at New World Library, and like there's the most hateful
thing on his wall. So it's just part of it.
But it should not be a reason that we stop,
because the world needs our joy more than ever. And
I think it's also being aware that too bright of
a light is blinding, and so you also need to
know your audience and and have compassion for where people

(46:37):
are and maybe like you know, like not have your
dimmer switch all the way up to ten. Depending on
who you're talking to.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
You say that divine timing can be a real bitch.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yes, this is my twenty five years of labor basically.
You know, when I first started the skipping movement, I
just thought that, like I said earlier, it's going to
just be this straight shot upward and it was going
to be like, Yay, everything is great. And it has
been a hero's journey, including a dark night of the
soul that really has forced me to go deep, deep,

(47:10):
deep within and the only way out is through and
that can take a really long time. I think we
want the divine timing to happen on human time and
that's just not how it works, but it's still a
worthwhile pursuit anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
You say you can only go as fast as your
slowest self.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I love this one. This one was Karen Drucker has
the musician has a song that I heard at an
author event that I was at that says this, I
will only go as fast as my slowest self feels
safe to go is her lyric. And I am a
very high achieving, enthusiastic, go get her, get her done

(47:50):
girl like that has always been who I am. And
through my force of my will, I can make things happen.
And when it comes to writing my book and this
inner journey that I'm on, I finally realized that that
part can only take me so far. And she was
really overcompensating for a part of me that was really
struggling feeling worthy. Like when the skipping movement started, I

(48:12):
was like, why is this happening to me? I just
did not have the self confidence and and and over
the years I have realized that I, my inner mother
needs to just come in and love that part of
me that was that was wounded. And so this chapter
is really about honoring the parts of us that are
that have been wounded and then giving them what they

(48:35):
need so that we can can love them and move forward.
But it's not going to just happen by the sheer
force of your will.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Maybe, And you touched upon this before, and this can
apply to anyone who has a calling. You say, we
can be called for a reason, a season or a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yes, And you hear this about relationships a lot. Relationships
happen for a reason, a season or lifetime. That's what
you think of it. And it's like when we first start,
when a new creative inspiration comes through, it can be
we immediately think it's going to be forever. Or when
we find a new community that feels like home, it
seems like it's going to last forever. And and over
the years, things change and shift and some things are

(49:17):
just not meant to be around forever. They have an
expiration date, and that's okay because there's always more inspiration
coming in. And so I just really like the idea
that you know that it doesn't have to be like
you're looking for your calling. Like I feel very lucky
that I've gotten my skipping calling. It's I mean, it's
been a journey, it's been challenging in a lot of
ways to have my lifetime calling. But even if there's

(49:38):
not like this big sense of lifetime calling, we can
make make a difference through kindness, random acts of kindness
and simple gestures and and so that's really what I'm
trying to shine a light on in this chapter.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
And skipping is a powerful medicine.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yes, I saved that for last, because, like I said,
I have realized over the years, even though you know,
encouraging people to skip has been very important to me,
that it doesn't have to be. You don't have to skip.
So I put skipping last, even though it's probably the
most important one to me personally, to really out outline
all of the amazing benefits of skipping that I've discovered

(50:16):
over the last twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
And you share a few fun ways to skip the
light fantastic. One of them is to skip through the
crosswalk when cars are waiting for you.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, that's the best time. They're they they're there and
they just want to you know, you got to get
through quickly, and it's it's a win win.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
And how do you get them to wait for you?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Well, they have to wait. They're sitting at this at
you sitting there in the car, and then you can
walk slowly while they wait, or you can just break
into a skip and then you're across the crosswalk faster
and they get to go.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Not in New York City, maybe in Califor.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I remember that when I'm there.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
You say, ask a kid in your life to skip
with you.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yes, absolutely, this is It's like training wheels. If you
don't feel comfortable skipping, you go up to a kid
and say, I don't remember how to skip? Will you
show me? And they will just take you by the
hand and and you there's so much we have to
learn from kids, and I think like empowering them to
know that, like they have a lot of value that
we need that we can learn from too.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
And you say that show kids that adult life can
be fun.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yes, yeah, be the fun crazy aunticle.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
And you talk about stealth skipping skip one all need
nobody's looking.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yes, yeah, this is for the shy skippers of the bunch.
You can just like look around and then just skip
in and no one will see you.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Now. Long distance skipping, what do you define as a
long distance?

Speaker 2 (51:47):
People skip miles at a time? Uh On. Stuart macmillan
was saying he skips. I think he said, like forget
how many miles every morning, So you know, people do
long distances and they and someone and there's there's world
records for people skipping an entire marathon. It's not my
cumpan teeth, but you can do it.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
And what are skipping intervals?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Skipping intervals are just skipping for short amount of time,
so you can like do it for like fifty meeting,
you know, set up at fifty yards and just skip
and then walk back and skip and then walk back,
so you're just doing them in short bursts. Or you
can skip for twenty steps, walk for ten steps, skip
for twenties, walk for five also all set like my

(52:30):
interval timer, so thirty seconds on, thirty seconds off, back
and forth between the two.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
And for someone who just wants to improve their mood,
you say, skip ten steps to shift your mood in
a more positive direction.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yes, it's a quick way to just I like to
do that on interviews. Just encourage people to just just
try skipping ten steps to see how it feels.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Again, And you say skip from the beginning to the
end of one song that makes you happy. And in
my head, I'm hearing it makes you happy at that.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yes, yeah, And if you can't physically skip, skipping is
very much a state of mind. So I lead laughter
yoga circles. That's another one of my fun little callings
as I'm a laughter certified laughter leader and we'll do
a skipping song. But people like being able to actually
get that bounce in their step is like some people
can't do that anymore, So you can just use your arms.

(53:22):
You can just like bounce with your arms. It's really
about the levity and the joy more than actually having
to do the step hop step up thing.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Tell me a little more about laughter yoga. I'm not
familiar with that one.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Lafter yoga was founded by doctor Kataria in India, and
it is everyone's in a circle and then there's a
mantra that goes ho ho ha ha ha ho ho
ha ha ha. That's kind of the glue, and then
the leader introduces the kind of of yoga of laughter.

(53:53):
So let's say we did a cocktail party laughter, and
then everyone I'll say, okay, cocktail party laughter, and then
everyone walks around and goes whoo, and they're like pretending
they're at a cocktail party. Laughing, but it like immediately
becomes real because it's so silly. And then once we

(54:15):
do that for a while, then I go ho ho
ha ha ha ho ho ha ha, And then everyone
gets back in a circle, and you introduced a different
kind of laughter. So it's again a way of kind
of activating those you know, fun, silly, playful muscles that
maybe we don't get to use as much as we
did when we were kids.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
And you say, group skips equal exponential happiness.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Absolutely, skipping with people and a big group of people
is just is so much fun. I highly recommend it
if you're out with the group of friends too. I mean,
that's how I first skipped, is that my friends Todd
and Rudy. Rudy said come on, let's skip, and he
just went skipping down the street in front of us,
and me and Todd looked at each other like what,
and then we started it's skipping. And then that was

(55:01):
where it all started for me. Was all because Rudy
thought of that. So anytime you're out with some friends,
you can just like try it and see what happens,
see who follows you.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
So everyone in the skipping movement can thank Rudy is
that what you're trying to say.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yes, it all because of Rudy.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
My guest, my dear friend, Kim Skipper Corbyn. Kim, one
more time, please tell our listeners where they can find
out more about I skip dot com and all of
your offerings there, the book you're working on and the
event coming up in Central Park.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I skip dot com is this kind of the mothership.
And then as far as the event in Central Park,
there is on event bright you could search for Unicorn
Blessing Brigade Central Park and same with on Facebook that
there's a Facebook event page for that as well.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Kim, thank you so much for joining us again for
nine years later from the original time we were together
doing these interviews. I am so grateful to you for
your message and for your big big heart.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Thank you, ah, thank you, Victor skip On, thank.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
You, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
I'm Victor the skipping boy Sperman. Have a wonderful week.