Laura Aversano - The Divine Nature of Plants - Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and
the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
we will explore these topics and so much more with
fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to

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Destination unlimited. Is it possible for humans to communicate with plants?
What would plants share with us? And how might this
contribute to our personal healing? Joining me again on Destination
Unlimited this week, Laura Aversano shares her story of awakening

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to the divine powers of plant spirits and the elemental
world of nature where plants are intelligent being. Laura Aversano
is a medical and spiritual intuitive and ancestral impath Descended
from an ancient lineage of Sicilian adepts and seers. She's
been communicating with the spirit world since childhood. She has

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trained in plant medicine and shamanism, from various indigenous traditions,
and in many modes of healing. Her website is Laura
Aversano dot com, and she joins me this week to
share her path and book, The Divine Nature of Plants,
A Medical Intuitive's Guide to Plant spirit medicine. Please join

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me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited, Laura Aversana, Welcome back, Laura.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Thank you for having me. I'm very excited to.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Be here, Laura, for our listeners meeting you for the
first time. Please share your path and how your intuitive
and healing path opened.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Sure. Absolutely. I grew up in a family of seers.
It is a part of my Sicilian lineage and heritage.
And when I was young, I had the ability to
speak and see beings beyond the veil, which I ascertained
were real, just like you and I, just like my
family was. And my gifts grew over time and culminated

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in a healing crisis at age nineteen, which expanded and
augmented those abilities, and I started training in energy medicine
and various healing modalities and it kind of took off
from there.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Wonderful. What do you offer your clients in your practice?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
A myriad of things you know? Interestingly enough, my practice
has grown for almost thirty years through referral, and most
of my clients tend to refer to me as either
a medical intuitive, a medicine woman, a shaman. It's a

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pleasure of of ways that I hold space. I offer
medical intuition. I offer counseling and development. I offer communication
with pets, communication with those who are in comas or unconscious.
I offer nutritional, energetic counseling. I used to offer hands
on work for plant spirit medicine work. Again, I think

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the list kind of can go on and on.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
And one of the things that I remember you talking
about was ancestral healing. Do you still do that?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Absolutely? That was the one thing I just remembered as
you said that, I forgot to mention, thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
And tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Sure, absolutely so. Encoded in our cellular memory is ancestral DNA.
It's a field called epigenetics. It's a study of how
gene expression is altered through trauma, ancestral environments, emotions, thoughts,

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and various other factors that literally express themselves through our health,
through our perspectives, through the ways in which we see
the world, through our psychic connection with the divine, and
through our spiritual let's say, in spiritual genetics is what
I like to refer to it as and many times

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those ancestors are still working to resolve their challenges beyond
the veil. And when that happens, it can influence and
impact our lives in many ways. And when somebody calls
me to work with ancestral healing, I look at the
challenges that they are presenting me with, and then I
track beyond the veil their ancestors with similar challenges and

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try to see where the patterns or miasms might be stuck,
might be holding, might be influencing and or attaching, and
do my best to hold space and offer tools to
help them unwind.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now today we're going to be discussing your new book,
The Divine Nature of Plants, a Medical Intuitive's Guide to
Plant Spirit Medicine. But before we do that, the last
time you were on, we discussed your book The Light
of God, Divine Locutions on evil, Karma, reincarnation and healing.
What inspired that book and what do you share with readers?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Sure? So that book what I was inspired by the
events of nine to eleven, Actually before they happened, I remember, Gosh,
thank you for reminding me of the story. Actually I
remember it was I think a year prior to the
events of nine to eleven that in prayer, spirit guided
me to write a book on good and evil, and

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I was given the title of the Light of God,
and there seemed to be a rush to write that
book and to hold space for those words to come through.
I did not know what I was getting myself into
in terms of what would come through me, and I
just remember being so hurried and everything seemed to be

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hastily unfolding. I remember experiencing the energetic shifts in many
realms above me. I remember experiencing the energetic shifts in
clients literally a year before with their pulses, and so
many times I can see the collective happening in people's tissues,

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in people's cells, around their aura, as above so below
before it happens actually in the physical realm, in this
realm that we are existing in. And up to the
time that I was finishing that book, I remember the
myriady of souls that would come through my home, and honestly,
they were traumatized. Some of them were screaming. They didn't

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know what was going on, they didn't know what they
were doing. And from my understanding, other shamans were also
experiencing these energies or these beings months before or months
prior to the events of Note eleven. I even remember
running over to my mom's house when she lived here
in New York, and asking her what she felt because

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the energies were so intense. And as I was getting
to that last chapter, I remember in my prayers they
kept saying, you need to finish, You need to finish,
because this book needs to help some of these souls
cross through. And I kept saying, cross from what's going
to happen, what collectively was going to happen. And I realized,

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with all those souls that I kept seeing passed through
the walls of my home, that's something magnanimous and devastating
was going to take place in our world. I think
I just numbed myself from the visions because I couldn't
believe what I was seeing until it finally happened.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know, it's interesting how sometimes we get a message
through synchronicity and it's not necessarily what we think it's about.
And I had a calling because I was doing reiki practice,
and back in the eighties and nineties, if you wanted
to go into a hospital and do any kind of
laying on of hands, you either had to be ordained

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in a faith where that was one of the sacraments,
or you needed to be a licensed massage therapist, and obviously,
with a full time job in industrial technology, I did
not have the time to go to school for two
years to become a licensed massage therapist. However, through a
wonderful series of synchronicities, I found out about the New

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Seminary of New York. I attended and graduated in nineteen
ninety seven, and my whole intention was to be able
to go into hospitals, and they're laying out of hands,
needless to say. When nine to eleven came along, another
reason for the ordination came to fruition, and that was
I was called to be a chaplain for the Red

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Cross at the Family Assistance Center that they had set
up in to work with people who were either grieving
the loss of loved ones in nine to eleven or
who were waiting word of their loved ones after nine
to eleven, and also the first responders. And it was
such wonderful work between going to my day job every
day and then every evening going to this Family Assistant

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Center for a matter of months. And I'm grateful for
the fact that I had that calling for the one
reason I thought it would be, but for obviously the
other reasons unfolded and they have continued to unfold throughout
my life, and I'm grateful for that.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Wow, bless you. That's wonderful. And I think there's still
challenges in New York with doing hands down without having
that massage license.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know. I don't have an active breaking practice anymore,
so I'm not familiar with it. But in any event,
the other things that have unfolded and the opportunities to
serve people in many capacities, and I'm grateful for that calling.
So thank you for sharing that. Now we just talked
about You're just new just published book, The Divine Nature

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of Plants. What inspired that book?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Actually this is its third iteration. I'm happy to say.
The first book was written when I was twenty eight
years old. The first iteration and published I believe when
I was thirty or thirty one, actually was supposed to
be published right after nine to eleven, and they halted
its release because of nine to eleven. So what inspired that? Again?

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In prayer, I was guided to write a book on
plant spirit slash shamanic medicine. And what inspired that for
me was my own personal healing journey and my foray
into the use and relationship with nature and plant spirit medicines.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And how did your abilities come about with plants?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sure, so again I mentioned my healing crisis. At the
age of nineteen, I started to become increasingly empathic to
people walking by me, near me, to various illnesses and
ailments that would just rush through my body. And along
with those ailments coming through my body, or somebody would

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mention a person's name, and I can tell what was
making them sick, And it could be something in the present,
something in the past, something in the spiritual realm, something
in the mental realm, something in the astral field. Along
with that, I would also hear sense or see remedies.
Some of those remedies were food based. Some of those
remedies were plants. Some of those remedies might have been

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visualization or other psychological tools. But nutrition and nature really
tugged at my heartstrings. And so I would go out
and I would sit. At that time, I lived in
the country upstate, and so I would sit in nature.
I would sit with the plants, and I'd be able
to pick up a plant, just like many indigenous cultures

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did before language was even used. Before formal language was used,
and I could tell exactly what the plant was used for,
what ailments, what illnesses on a physiological level, on a
psychological level, and on a spiritual level. And I would
start to take notes and write things down, and then
later on I would compare my notes to traditional books

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on orbology and I was correct, and that prompted me,
along with my guidance, to write a book on plant medicine.
And then years down the road, the second iteration of
the book, published by Llewellyn, a story was added. I
thought I'd add a more personal perspective of how I

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used plant spirit medicine and working with the spirits in
my own journey. Well, and now here's the third published
by Inner Traditions, which I'm very pleased. It's a beautiful book.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
And when did you first recognize that plants were actually
communicating with you.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
During that time when I had my healing crisis at nineteen.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
And how did they speak to you?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was more clear cognizance. It was such an echo
through every tissue, through every cell, through every story. They
told stories of illnesses through my being, they told stories
of relationships through my cells. It was one of the

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most incredible experiences that I ever had. And then with
that one of the elementals, because plants come with their elementals,
their fairies, the plant spirits, and along with that there
came a spirit guy who would appear to me and

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also communicate the abilities and properties of plants.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know, it's interesting. I'm a tree hugger from the
time I was a kid in the sixties, and I
always had a sense of a relationship with nature, all
forms of nature, birds and squirrels and all types of animals,
and also with trees. And I love oak trees. Something
about oak trees that just sing to me. And then

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when I moved into the home that I live in
now in Queens, New York in nineteen ninety five, unbeknownst
to me, there was a bed of azaleas in the
garden and I started seeing them bloom early in spring,
and then they'd be gone in a few weeks. And
I wondered what was the nature of that, and I
researched it and I found out that's what they do.

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They come, they spend three weeks or so or four
weeks here with us, and then they go to the
next iteration. And during a time of grief, a poem
came through me about the azaleas and what they represent.
I call the poem the Lesson of the Azaleas. May
share that with.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
You please, I'm very excited to hear it.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
They return each spring in their full glory without our hand,
intending leave in three weeks. A very short story, but
no sadness in this ending, for they grace us with
signs of summer's return, lifting our spirits with cheer, and
we'll know they'll be back and blossom again one full

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turn of the wheel of the year. And the lesson
they share with beauty and grace transition is just nature's way,
a reminder we'll all return to this place and blossom
on some shining day.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Wow, that feels very jovial in my heart's face. It
was so playful and just beautiful.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Thank you. Yeah again, at a time of grief, I
was grieving the loss of my mother and that at
that time of grief, that message came through. And I
think that's one of the ways that for me personally,
the way plants speak to me. So how does someone
begin their journey with a specific plant.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think by first and foremost going outside into nature
and just honoring that we are not the only beings
on this earth. That we are not the only creations
that have a story to tell. That the earth which
carries us, the soil which is underneath our feet, the

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asphalt which may be underneath our feet, has a story,
has a lineage, has an ancestral history, and there are
narratives generations back that carry us and carry our stories
that we live in this world. And so for me,

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a beginning would be just to go outside and just
for a moment, just quiet your mind, and no matter
where you are, I hope it's nature, But if not,
just hang out on the asphalts if you're in a city,
because underneath that asphalt there is still earth, and there
is still story, and just sit with it for a

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while and ask it to share when it's ready what
it needs to tell you.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
And for those who are not necessarily intuitive, what are
the messages? How can they hear those messages?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know? I have many clients that will call me
and say, Laura, I can't hear like you, or may
not be able to see like you. And I don't
think it's about necessarily hearing or seeing. Sometimes it comes
through a kinesthetic feeling. It might be a twinge in

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your heart. It might be a tightening or contraction in
your lungs. It might be an unwinding in various muscles.
It doesn't have to be you know, we have all
these incredible senses, but people seem to focus on site
and sound.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know, it's interesting that everything in the universe is
actually a form of energy. Even material things are a
manifestation of energy. So if everything is energy, we're energy.
Plants are energy, all of nature is energy. The connection

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should be.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Natural, absolutely, but we've lost it, as you know, we've
truly lost it. I know nature is sad about that.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
How have we lost that connection?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You know, with progress there will always be positive consequences
and negative ones. I do believe how we are increasing technology.
I've seen it. I've seen it literally, I've seen the
interference of the frequencies of technology challenge the animal kingdom

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and the plant kingdom. When they put up a few
cell towers near my home during the pandemic, I watched
as the behavior of squirrels changed. I watched the behavior
of my fit trees shift a little bit and grow
a little differently. I watched my grass grow differently each spring.

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And I know they've done studies on this, and so
I think we're not aware of what we're doing. And
I hope to God that we become aware before it's
too late.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Kid, I grew up in Brooklyn, and I grew up
in a fairly urban area, but there were still patches
of trees and gardens and plants throughout the area. And
in those days, we didn't have cell phones, and we
didn't have all the forms of digital communications that people

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spend more time on now than they do with people
incarnate and the family and friends and loved ones. And
I just remember as a kid just marveling at the
season changes and the birth and life and then the
leaving of some of the annuals that would come by.

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And I think maybe today we need to reinforce with
kids of the current generation and the past generation or so,
this marveling at the beauty of nature, the miracle that
nature truly is.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I completely agree as well as I think we need
to offer. It's an understanding of what it is like
to be grateful for nature's presence in our lives. I
don't think they have that. I don't think adults have
that now.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Gratitude that's something that's missing from a lot of people's lives,
being grateful for everything and anything that has blessed their lives.
And I belong to a group called Morning Gratitude, and
every day we express what we're grateful for that day,
and many times people express gratitude for nature and all
of the gifts that this world brings to us.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's beautiful. That's beautiful. And sometimes I used to share
in classes, just when you go outside, if you're in nature,
just lean down, put your hand on the grass, and
just say thank you. It takes a minute, it takes
a second.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Absolutely, My guest Laura Albrasano the new iteration of her
book The Divine Nature of Plants, a Medical Intuitive's Guide
to Plant spirit Medicine. Laura, please share with our listeners
where they can get all of your books and find
out more about you and your wonderful work.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Thank you. I have a website www dot Laura Aversano
dot com. You can also find me on Facebook and
you can purchase the books wherever books are sold. My
latest books come through Inner Traditions.

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Speaker 1 (23:56):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Laura Abressano.
We're talking about her book The Divine Nature of Plants,
A Medical Intuitive's Guide to Plant Spirit Medicine. So Laura,
tell us a little bit about the plant spirits. What
are the plant spirits like?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
You know, that's a really interesting question, Victor. I think
it's subjective for everyone. I know. In my book I
shared about the plant spirits or the elementals that avail
themselves to me. But as I share with people, especially
when I'm teaching classes on plant spirit medicine, the right
spirit will come for you or attracted to the plant's

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vibration in the way that you need it most. And
it doesn't mean there might not be another elemental that
might not come another time when somebody calls in that
same plant.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
And tell us, you know you had mentioned fairies. I
think divas is one of the words for some of
these elementals. What are they really like?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
All right? I can tell you remember one time I
was working through grief and for dandelion. I remember dandelion
flowers were coming through my bedroom walls, along with little
children that were just running rampant trying to wipe my
tears off my face. It was the sweetest, sweetest experience

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that I remember, just being blessed to have. And I've
never encountered an unkind plant elemental that I will say.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I had mentioned the azaleas in the first segment, and
whenever I see them blossopic, I have this sense that
there are these little fairies flying around them and watering
them and giving them love and bringing them up.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Beautiful. That is beautiful, that you know. In my last interview,
there was something that I shared that the medicine of
every plant and the spirit that attaches to it will
change as your vibration and your frequency changes, as well
as your needs change.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Absolutely, how do they peel the plants? How do they heal?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
That is such a large question. They heal first and
foremost vibrationally and via frequency. They will work effortless with
much effort, not effortlessly, with much effort to match or
balance the vibration that a person or an event, a
trauma is giving off, and so they will heal and

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balance various layers of the orc field as well as
tissue to the extent that they are meant.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
To, so they have different levels of healing. Yes, And
if I were to lie down on the ground and
on a particular day, and let's say I was struggling
with something emotionally, those blades of grass or the accompanying

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plants or trees that are in my vicinity would tune
into that energy and yes, connect to me accordingly.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Absolutely, And again I think the way I see it,
even with other forms of spiritual medicine, there's a fie
will be done energy. As far as I'm concerned, they
will work to heal you in the ways that they
are supposed to or that you are meant to heal.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Do they ask permission before they start?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I believe so.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
And how do we recognize that request for permission?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I don't know if many of us do, because again
I don't know how many of us have cultivated that
relationship with nature. I think that one of the ways
that we can try to recognize it to get once
we shift our way of thinking and our purview of
the world to some form of gratitude, I think we
start experiencing the world differently.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I think you're right. I know that when I want
to ground myself, I'll take my shoes and socks off
and put my feet into the grass and just relax.
And I automatically have a sense when I do that
that not only is my energy being grounded by Mother Earth,
but that the grass, blades of grass, and the plants

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around me and the trees around me are acting as
a conduit for that energy.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, it's true, it's true. I remember the last class
that I taught on plant spirit medicine. I asked the students,
let's go outside. It was in a center in Westchestern,
New York. We went outside and say, I want everybody
just to sit on the ground, sit on the grass
for a little bit, and tell me what you're feeling.
And we could actually feel. And at that point, nobody

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had a relationship with the actual energies of the land
around the center, but only the center itself. So we
sat and we can feel what was going on, and
everybody pretty much was in the same opinion of the
trauma that the collector was going through. We went back

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inside the center, we started working with the earth and
the collective trauma that we were struggling with. I can't
remember what was going on. It was something that was
happening in the world that time. And then when we
went back outside towards the end of the class, I
asked everybody again to sit back down. After we had
worked with the collective trauma and the earth elementals and

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the difference in the land, the acknowledgement, the sense of
inner peace, the happiness. Students started to laugh, They were jovial.
They could feel the grace that was emanating through the
blades of grass that was just dancing on their feet.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
It was so precious, beautiful. Thank you for sharing that.
Can anyone communicate with plants? Even people who don't? I
think we sort of touched upon this in the first segment,
But even people who don't really have any intuitive gifts,
can they communicate with plants?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Can? My answer is the same, I think they can.
I think again. The first thing you have to do
is hold a plant. And even if you can't physically
hold a plant, meditate. Meditate on a plant that's calling you.
Get a journal, write things down, see what stories it
has to tell you. You might think it's all your mind,

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but how do you really.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Know it's not. Now you had taught a class for
aar of New York at our last Psychic Feure. You
had graciously come in and done a presentation and the
Spring Psychic Fair, and one of the examples you had
given was there was a situation with an herb that

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a person needed to heal with. Can you do you
recall that or can you share a comparable story?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Were we talking about Basil?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Basil? That's right, it was Basil.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm not remembering the story, but I remembering the plans. Okay,
let me think you know what I'm going to share.
I'm going to share my own personal story. Is that okay?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
And I actually think it's in this book. So I
remember I was working on I'm trying to remember it
was a challenge that I was having health wise. And
this is going back probably twenty years ago, and I
remember it's a little bit of a sad story. I
went to see an incredible Caribbean herbalist that is in

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Lower Westchester and she had given me an herb and
she called it god Bush. And I tried to find
out what this Godbush was. I had no idea. Every
time I researched it, I just couldn't find it. And
I thought it was really odd, and I started to

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make tea out of this godbush. Now, for some reason
she had said she only told me to take a
tea spoon a day. I started to have one or
two cups a day. So I was having one or
two cups of this godbush a day, and I was
feeling like I was climbing Mount Everest. I was feeling amazing.
And at the same time, I kept noticing my cat

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Alexis was lying down every night on my liver, which
was a new behavior for her. And there was a
period of I'd say about ten days where something shifted
in me. There was an incredible shift on a cellular level,
and something told me to stop, like literally right away,
just to stop. So I stopped it. And then I

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noticed that my kitty, Catalyxis was starting to get sick,
and she was getting sicker and sicker and sicker, and
she was healthy before that. I took her to the vet,
and she had been to the vet like a few
months prior, and he said, she just got liver cancer.
And I said, what do you mean, he goes it
just sometimes comes out of the blue, and that's interesting.
She was lying down on my liver, and he said

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she doesn't have lung. And I remember calling up the
Caribbean herbalist and I said, you know that plant you
gave me, I stopped taking it and I said, I
believe that it was toxic on some level, and my
cat ended up taking that from me. She said, well,
how much did you take? I said one to two

(33:42):
cups a day, and there was a pause in her
voice and she said, I've never heard of anybody taking
one or two cups a day and living. Laura. I said,
but I think you told me one or two cups
a day. She said, no, I told you a teaspoon
a day. And when I looked it up, it was mistletoe.
I actually finally found it, and I had researched it

(34:05):
and couldn't find anything, so it was like I wasn't
meant to find out what it was, but it was
a form of missiletoe in the same genus, and she's like,
you need to get to the doctor and get all
these tests. Interestingly enough, when I advised traditional physicians, they
did the appropriate test cardiac and liver test because of
the detriment to that genus of missletoe. I was actually

(34:28):
perfect my cat wasn't, but I was. It did what
it needed to do, and Alexis did what she needed
to do to help me. Interesting story.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Thank you for sharing that. Let's say that you're not
you don't have a specific condition that you're dealing with.
How do you know which plants are just generally good
for you and your overall health?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
You know, sometimes I hear friends saying, wow, this plan
keeps popping up in my yard, or I keep walking by,
you know, the street, and I'm noticing all these dandelions,
or they just they're in a nursery and there's a
plant that draws to them. And that's when I say,
I think the plant chose you, just like when you're

(35:13):
in an animal shelter and the animal chooses you.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And then taking that one step further, if you have
some type of condition, how do you know which plants
will work for that condition.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Here's what I've personally found. When you find your signature plant,
whatever it's pharmacology is, I think that can plant, that
plant can work with you in a number of ways
to heal a number of maladies on many levels. I
truly think so.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
And how do you know that that's the plant for.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
You again for some reason, It'll keep showing up. It'll
just keep showing up in some way.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
And other methods of communication that people will recognize that
in addition to the plant showing up for them.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Let me think about that, if I may for a moment,
so you know, besides showing up again, I think we
have to make a concerted effort to really truly go
sit in nature and be present and be still and again,

(36:31):
I'm going back to gratitude and appreciation. And I think
when we start holding that kind of space, we start
to see a tree being more than a tree or
something that's just taking up space. We start to see
the dandelion more than just a weed. We start to

(36:54):
understand that there is a lineage to what grows on
the earth, that we're not the only ones entitled to
be here.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Can you give us a couple of more examples of
specific plants that work on specific conditions. We had talked
about basil before, how about a couple of others.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Sure, Hawthorne is one I'm recommending as of late. Hawthorne
is incredible, especially for those struggling with panic attacks and anxiety.
It's really great to help with your heart cheat or
your heart pulse. It's incredible to work with in relationship

(37:34):
issues and challenges and struggles. It really for me and
for clients that I recommend it to helps balance the
masculine and feminine energy when there's self doubt, when there's
a lack of faith, when there's a lack of confidence.
So that's one that I really like to recommend again
as of late.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Another example, please.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Sure we can go back to dandelion. Dandelion is an
incredible livertana fire detox herb. It works incredibly well with
the lymphatic system. I love it for holding space for grief,

(38:19):
for child loss, for helping somebody to cross over or
who's stuck when they've just passed on and crossing over
from one realm into the next. It's one of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And we both live in New York, New York City.
Is there one that's common to New York City for
New York City residents?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't frequent Manhattan anymore, but in my backyard, I think,
like in many I do think dandelion is a frequent one.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Interesting, I remember that song by the Rolling Stones, Dandelion
Don't Tell no Lies. Dandelion will make.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You wise, Yes, Amen, Amen.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
True, absolutely, And we're talking about basil. What are the
properties of basil?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Basil interesting? I think emotionally, basil is really good for crankiness, irritability,
somebody who's a little off grounded, and it's kind of
like grounded, leaving your body, grounded, leaving your body, somebody
who's got a lot of resentments or regrets and has

(39:27):
trouble letting go of things.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Is there another common kitchen herb that will work, that
will work on this in this way.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Kitchen or for what I just mentioned about basil, just
for anything in general.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Anything in general.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Sure, rosemary is incredible on a physiological level for upper
respiratory elements, for phlegm that's stuck in your lungs and
other parts of the body. Rosemary is also good just
for balancing. And again for some people it can be
cooling and for others it can be warming. I think

(40:06):
it really helps quiet the mind.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
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Speaker 1 (43:33):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Laura of
Versano her book The Divine Nature of Plants, A Medical
Intuitive's Guide to Plant Spirit Medicine. Laura, do plants speak
to one another?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yes, they do. They've done studies on that, especially if
the roots of trees and other plants just have these
exchanges and conversations underneath the soil well as well as
I do believe they're petals also just a frequency and vibration.
It's the harmonies are so estheric, and it's so beautiful

(44:13):
and so visually when somebody might visit a garden, it's
the oric field above the plantings amidst the trees. Is
it leaves me breathless. Honestly, it's just it's a wonder.
It's a wonder.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I was going to ask, how can healing with plants
impact the earth?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
It can impact it greatly. It can impact it greatly. Again,
I think when we start to connect with nature, we
are moving from what I believe on a psychological level,
spiropsychological level is entitlement to gratitude and to mutual respect
and understanding that we are not the only beings of creation.

(45:00):
What a story to tell, and so there's an honoring
and a reciprocity that happens. And in those patterns themselves, there.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Is healing, absolutely, you know. I'm just wondering if that
energy would extend beyond the plants into all of the earth.
We've been having so much difficulty with natural occurrences right now,
natural disasters, and I'm wondering if more people would face
the earth and face the plants with gratitude every day

(45:33):
and appreciation that that energy, that message would be conveyed
from the plants to Gaia, to Mother Earth and perhaps
rest her a little bit.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I think it has that potential. I've seen when I've worked,
when I've gone out into the earth, and when I've
witnessed trauma from generations back, which I have, from various
wars so on and so forth. I've sat, I've prayed
and communicated, I've made offerings, I've perhaps even planted some thing,
and I've gone back then weeks later to bear witness

(46:04):
to the change in the shift, so that I know
that on a psychic and a spiritual level, things have changed.
And just like with human bodies, when things start to
change as above so below, on a psychic or spiritual level,
there is potential for it to shift physically, if that
is what is supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Have you seen any changes in plans during the current
struggling times that we have?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Absolutely? Yep. Even with clients utilizing plant medicine, the plants
that have been their signature, plants that I've worked with
them for years, all of a sudden don't work in
the same ways or what I see it as or
how I see is they don't need those plants anymore.
Something has shifted. So plants, along with us, will evolve

(46:52):
and will adapt to the trauma and the collective issues
that are happening, and similar to the way that our
vibration shifts, their frequencies will work to adopt to the
changing and collective events of our world.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I remember studies by a Japanese scientist who was working
with water molecules, and when he would send positive, loving
messages to the water, it would take on a specific
shape and form the molecules with a beautiful artistic format
almost and when negativity was expressed, that would also reflect

(47:33):
in the molecules. So we're talking about the same thing
with plants, aren't we.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Again I mentioned when they could up cell towers.
During the pandemic, I noticed the behavior of the squirrels
and the birds in my yard had shifted, as well
as the way that my fig trees were growing that
shifted as well.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I have to ask this question because I have several
people in my family who are very allergic to and
other plant allergies. What about people who have plant allergies?
Can these be healed naturally of.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Their allergies or their other elements the allergies. Yeah, I
do believe their bodies can be supported. I've worked with
medicines or natural supplementation that are not plants to help
people balance or overcome their allergies. So yes, I do
believe that allergies can be healed. But it doesn't mean

(48:32):
everyone's allergies can be healed. So it's it's like if
you're constant, like I have this one client who lives
in the midst of a forest and she has an
allergy to mold, and with all the different scores that
are going around in this forest, she's not getting better.
So sometimes you need to take the person out of
the environment because there's the microbiome of the forest is

(48:56):
as it should be. But if your body can't handle everything,
and you've tried everything, perhaps it's time for you to
change your environment.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Tell us a little bit more about a couple of
examples of your personal experience working with clients and the
plants that you used or the plant essences that you used,
and what they were.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
For sure, thank you. I remember working with one person
many many years ago, and her mother struggled with a
form of dementia, and prior to that, and this was
an elderly client. Prior to that, I remember that her
mother was institutionalized, and that mother used to endure shock

(49:48):
treatment therapy, which was pretty hard. And my client and
the present had struggled with migraines off and on, and
every time this client would speak about her migraines, I
would sense and see or hear her mother's spirit behind
her struggling through those shock treatments. I'm thinking it might

(50:13):
have been rose that I recommended, and not that it
was first. I had seen rose between the oric fields
of both the person beyond the veil, her mom, and
both my client and that rose, that beautiful pink rose

(50:34):
seemed to mirror the vibration that was emanating from the
trauma from her mom and from the uncertainty, doubt, and
fear from my client. So I recommended a rose tincture
or even for my client just to be around roses,
to bring them into her house every week.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
You know, it's interesting. Years ago, I was teaching a
weekly meditation class in Brooklyn, and one eve before anyone
showed up, I was putting the chairs in place, and
all of a sudden, I smelled roses and I looked
around the room. I looked, the windows were all closed,
the air conditioning was on, and this essence of rose

(51:16):
was just so beautiful and just took me away. What
do you think that might have been?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I think that was somebody from beyond the veil trying
to give you a message. Yeah, yeah, I truly do.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I might in retrospect when I think about it in
the years past, I had a sense it might have
been the essence of Mother Mary.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
That's beautiful. And again, I think everybody has their own
relationship with the elementals that come to them and the
reasons that they come. So for you, more than likely
it was Mother Mary. For somebody else, it could have
been their great grandmother hmm.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Absolutely. Can you give us one more example of a
plant that you've worked with a client with?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Sure? Okay. I remember a client with a neurodegenerative disorder,
and I had looked into his energy field and saw
the environmental stressors in this lifetime that were embedded in
his cellular memory. I also had asked about his mother

(52:25):
and father and if they also were surrounded by this
one environmental toxin that I was seeing in the miasms
around all of them, and he said yes, And I believe,
in looking at his intestinal microbiome as well as some
of the way the neurons were firing in his brain,

(52:46):
that this chemical toxin had made an imprint via Mom
and Dad. I didn't ask about the grandparents, so possibly
the grandparents and came through him and contributed or in
fluenced the neurododendriv disorder that he was struggling with. And
so I had to kind of sit and wait because

(53:07):
we had both masculine and feminine being that Mom and
Dad were around us, and he was also struggling in
his current relationship, and so I usually wait, you know,
like I do with my other work, and I wait
to see what comes through. And for some reason, burdock
seemed to be the plant of choice in helping the

(53:32):
emotional bodies of both my client, his mother who was
still living, his father who was deceased. It matched the
frequencies of the chemical toxin that I was seeing in
all of them, and it helped balance all of those realms.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Beautiful. What would you like readers to take away from
the divine nature of plants?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Over the years, I've heard people tell me that when
they read the book, the energies just jump off the pages.
So I really appreciate hearing that because I think the
book is alive. It's alive with joy, It's alive with
that gratitude that I keep mentioning. It's alive with love,
it's alive with spiritual medicine. Read it and absorb it

(54:22):
and utilize it.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Wonderful, my guest, Laura Aversano her book The Divine Nature
of Plants, A Medical Intuitive's Guide to Plant spirit Medicine. Laura,
one more time, please share with listeners where they can
get all of your wonderful books and learn more about
your wonderful work.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Thank you. My website is www dot Laura Aversano dot com.
You can also find me on Facebook, where I try
to contribute positivity each day, and my books are published
by Inner Traditions and you can buy them anywhere books
are sold.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
And tell us a little bit more about your practice,
what you offer your clients.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Sure, there is a contact page on my website to
get a hold of me for sessions, and if you
read my website, it'll share a little bit about the
various kinds of sessions I do. So most of my
sessions are focused around either medical intuition ancestral work and
those can be combined or plant spirit medicine.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
And Laura had mentioned her contributions on Facebook and other places.
She is a daily contributor to AI the Edgar Casey
Association of New York, and she posts her wonderful wisdom
and the beautiful messages and lessons every day. And Laura,
we're grateful to you for doing that every day.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Oh, thank you so much. It's my pleasure. And if
I may, I also want to mention I have I've
just started to enter into the world of technology a
little late, and I have my first real virtual upcoming
class on boundaries the end of August. And again that's
something if you go on my website and contact me,
I can provide all the information.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Boundaries is a very important lesson. So thank you for
sharing that, and thank you for joining us today and
sharing this beautiful message.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
And thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Thank you, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
I'm Victor the Voice Firman. Have a wonderful week

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