Nanci Danison – 33 Souls Who Met God - Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
we will explore these topics and so much more with
fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to

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Destination Unlimited. Thirty three souls who were atheist, Agnostic, Catholic, Christian, Buddhist, Taoist, Hindu,
or had other religious or spiritual beliefs before they died,

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progressed deeper into heaven paradise than near death experiencers, and
returned to share mind blowing new details about God and
the afterlife. What did they discover? My guest this week
on Destination Unlimited, Nancy Danison, is one of those thirty
three souls and combined their experiences with hers to share

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a remarkable story. Nancy holds a BS in Biology in
Chemistry Magnecum Loud, a BA in Psychology Magnecum Loud, and
a doctorate in jurisprudence. She had a nationwide litigation and
health law practice for thirty six years and is ranked
in the top five percent of attorneys nationwide for competence

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and ethics in the Martindale Hubble Bar Registry of pre
Eminent Lawyers. She's written five books detailing the experiences she
lived and information she received in the afterlife following her
nineteen ninety four death. She has come back from the
dead multiple times and devotes her entire life to sharing

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the messages she's brought back from God. Her website it
is Nancydanison dot com, and she joins me this week
to share her remarkable story and just published book thirty
three Souls Who Met God, Accounts of Atheists, Buddhists, and
Christians who died and met the same God. Please join

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me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited. Nancy Denison. Welcome back, Nancy.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh, thank you, Victor. I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Nancy. This is your third time joining us. We should
have the club like they have on Saturday Night Life
for the people who come back and join them from
time to time. And we're going to be discussing your
seventh book. Seventh book.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Congratulations, it's actually my sixth book, Victor.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I'm sorry I have Why do I see seven though
in the list?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, your sixth book, Nancy, Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I've been wondering, if you know I get enough feedback
from this book from other expanded afterlife experiencers who might
you know send me their story, whether I would be
willing to do a seventh book. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well, seventh is a very special number, so I would
go for it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, Well maybe.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Nancy, for listeners meeting you for the first time, please
share your early life and your beliefs about life and
death when you were younger.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I was raised as a Roman Catholic. I went to
Catholic school through twelfth grade. I played the organ in search,
and I was a Virgin Mary girl. I had an
alter to Virgin Mary in my bedroom most of the time,
always during May, but you know, most of the time.

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Then I went to a Methodist college. And I'm so
old Victor that when I went to college and we
had to go to scholarship, students had to go to
church services every Sunday, and we had to wear white
gloves and dresses. I think my second year of college
that was no longer required. But anyway, so I went

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to Mythetist college. I got degrees in chemistry and biology
together a Bachelor of Science, and then I got a
separate degree in psychology as a Bachelor of Arts. Then
I worked for a couple of years as a chemist
and went to law school. And so now I have
a doctorate in jurisprudence, and I practiced law for thirty
six years and I retired about ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
What motivated you to study and practice law.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Well, I said, tell the truth, I wanted to go
to medical school. And while I was getting my degree
in biology, I was in charge of the laboratory animals
in the biology department, and I did surgery on one
and it was a dog and he died. I did
surgery on a guinea pitch and the guinea pig died.

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And I delivered babies in another guinea pig and that
didn't go well. So I thought, hey, this is a
sign that I'm not supposed to go to medical school.
And I didn't have a plan b So I started
taking a bunch of tests. I did really well on.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
The law school and mission test.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's a really inspired choice.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Wasn't a victor?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Absolutely? You know there's an old joke about a pastor
who passes away and he arrives at the pearly gates
and he's greeted there by Saint Peter, and Saint Peter
shows him this beautiful little cottage and he says, this
is going to be this little cottage will be your
residence in heaven. And he looks and he says, that's beautiful.

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And he looks up the hill and he says, this
huge mansion at the top of the hill. And he
says to Saint Peter, he says, I appreciate my mansion,
but who's my cottage? Whose mansion is that? And Saint
Peter says that mansion belongs to a lawyer. And the
pastor says a lawyer. He says, yes, we have so
few of them up here. That's why he has that
beautiful mansion. But you that's not the type of lawyer

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you were. You were a lawyer who was dedicated to
advocating for others. How did you receive that calling?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, because I wanted to go to medical school, I
decided maybe the next best thing was to be a
health lawyer, and so I studied on my own.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, while I was working full time, I was
going to seminars.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
And learning health law, and that was primarily representing healthcare providers.
You would not believe the kind of trouble that the
government can cause for our doctors and hospitals. So I
represented them and mostly Medicare, Medicaid audits and criminal investigations.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
How did you go from being a partner in a
two hundred and seventy attorney law firm to writing six
spiritual books.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I died. After I died, I just it just turned
my home life upside down. Everything I'd ever believed was
pulled out from underneath me. I didn't know, I didn't
know anything anymore. I mean, I knew the truth from
what I was in the afterlife, I didn't know anything
about human life. And I just thought, I can't do

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this anymore, and so I left my big law firm
and went out on my own as a single attorney
and did just fine. It's scary as ect, but I
did just fine. That was the only motivation for it.
Was just I couldn't do it anymore. And I also
felt like I couldn't subject my partners to the turmoil

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I was going through. I mean, even after I came
back from dying the first time, Victor I am, from
time to time would just kind of fall down and
I'd go back into the afterlife, you know, for just
a few seconds at a time, or I would have
flashbacks from the afterlife. I never knew when that was
going to happen, and so I thought it might be

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kind of a liability for my law firm.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Please share with our listeners your experience of death, which
one the first one?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I It upsets my body terribly to talk about it. Yeah,
I'm more than willing to talk about the afterlife, but
the actual dying process, it just upsets her too much,
you know. I will say that I was in a
mimography room having what's called a needle localization procedure, which
was necessary before a breast cancer surgery, because not every

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breast cancer forms a lump. Sometimes it shows up on
a mammogram as calcium deposits, and so I had to
have mammograms and a radiologist sticking a needle into the
center of these three humors, and the combination of the

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two shots of local anesthetic that she gave me, and
very low blood sugar and a racing heart, and my
heart just eventually stopped and I was gone.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
How long was the actual experience and how long did
it seem to you?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know. Exactly. The radiologists and radiology technician left
the room and left me sitting there alone, and I
was concentrating on trying to slow my heart down. They
were gone for half an hour and I came back
after they came back.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Into the room.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
For me, it was it was a lifetime. I mean,
I lived eternal life in the afterlife, but it wasn't. See,
there's no linear time once you're out a body. Only
humans measure time and bits and bites, and only humans

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experience time in a linear fashion. You know, this happens
and then that happens. It's not like that. Once you
get out of body, everything's all ones. So I could
live a lifetime in you know, thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
What would you share with those who feared death?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It is just waking up from this human incarnation, nothing more.
I learned in the afterlife that we are all literally
part of the Creator and we never leave its mind
and heart ever. So there's nothing to fear that. You

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can't go to hell, you can't go anywhere but waking
up within the Creator's mind again. But you know, it's
it's something that most religions and spiritual philosophies don't teach.
You know, a lot of times the religions will say
that we're children of God, and that gives a false

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impression because children are definitely separate from their parents.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
In human life, we are not separate from our creator.
We exist solely within its mind, and it puts little
bits and pieces of its consciousness and self awareness in
the form of what we call souls into physical life

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all over the universe. But they're still connected to know
the Creator's mind, just like our dream characters are still
on our mind.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
They don't go anywhere when we wake up.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
As wonderful as this experience must have been, you came back.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Why I thought it? But all through my first after
I experience and I had I got the answer to
all my questions. I watched a complete history of Earth,
I watched all of creation. I reawakened to the knowledge
that I was actually the creator, that I was source.

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All through that, I kept saying, in the back of
my mind, somebody, I'll tell those people, you know, because
nothing that I had believed as a Catholic was true
for me in the afterlife, and I just thought, somebody's
got to tell those people down there on Earth, you know,
and as I was well, right before I was sent

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back or came back into this body, I was still thinking,
somebody's got to tell those people. And then I realized
I was going like through a whirlwind back into my body,
and I was saying, I didn't mean me, I'm not
voluntary for this, but here I am.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
What you did volunteer, didn't you? Apparently, so you've shared
that you for seven years after returning? Why and what
was that like?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I grieved the loss of everything I believed before. I mean,
I was thrilled to find out that I am literally
you know, the creator, that I'm literally source, that I'm
just one time in a little bit of its consciousness
and self awareness, but I've never been separate from it.
I mean, that was thrilling. But I liked the Catholic religion.

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I liked going to mass, I liked communion. I liked
to pomp and circumstance. And I missed it. I couldn't
believe it anymore because I knew it wasn't true, and
I missed it. And I liked the life I had before.
I liked being a lawyer, and I.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Liked being.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Hated at times, and I just wasn't that person anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I was grieving the.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Loss of the aspects of the personality that I had
before I died, as well as my religion. And then
I left my firm. When I was.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Greeting that.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
When you say you left your religion, there was a
song by rim losing my religion. What was that experience.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Like like having the rug pulled out from underneath you
and you didn't know where you were falling to and
what you were going to hit.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Was it the message of the religion of the Catholic
Church that was so missed by you? Or was it
something else?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
I think as being part of that tribe, you know,
being part of the you know, it's a majority of
religion on earth, and I miss belonging, you know, since
I've been delivering this message, you know, since nineteen ninety four,
I have found a community of like souls. In fact,

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you know, my latest book is about you know, the
other thirty two people I found that had similar experiences.
And I have lots of wonderful experiences of friends that
I've made through my webinars and through my books and
you know all that. But it's not the same as
being born into and living within a religious community of
like minded people.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I missed that you had additional out of body experiences
after dying. Please share those with us.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I had. I don't know how many of I had
a bunch of them, like I used to, you know,
just fall down on the floor and I'd be back
in the afterlife. My office manager come and find me
laying in my office floor, and sometimes I would just
come to on the floor. Some of them were I

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flashed back to other physical lifetimes that I had lived
that I watched, and I remembered living while I was
in the afterlife. But once I came back, I would
have flashbacks to that. And I can remember crawling on
my hands and knees down the hallway in my office suite,
and I was some kind of a big cat, and
I could feel the whiskers, and I could feel the

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furry belly like swaying back and forth as I walked,
and I could feel that I was a feared and
vicious creature. And I had flashbacks or visits later on.
I had one. I had another life review. I had

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an experience when I was writing my second third book,
Backwards Beliefs, where I wash back in the afterlife, and
I got a download of every single thing that had
ever been written by a human at any time ever
in the history of Earth, including telephone messages and post
it notes and homework assignments and you know, just everything.

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And I just had from time to time other out
of body experiences. I had three what are classic near
death experiences where I was in the hospital dying and
I got out of body, and you know, watched surgery
a couple of times, watch the er doctor like through walls,
running down the hallways to get to me to try

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to give me an infusion before I died. They were
all different and unique, but wonderful in their own way.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Why did you choose the word backwards in the titles
of your books about your experiences?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
That was given to me. You might know a little
bit about that.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
When it took about seven years for me to get
over the grieving and to process the experience I had.
And during those seven years, I was talking to doctors
who were telling me I would I had hallucinated, and
I was reading and you know, trying to find out

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what happened to me. And I had seen this movie
Daniel Brinkley's story Saved by the light, and I saw that.
I thought, that's it. That's what happened to me. I know,
I didn't make it up and this so then I
started reading into ebooks. But after like about seven years
of that, my body kind of crashed. I lost. I

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couldn't keep a normal heart rate or a rhythm, or
blood pressure or temperature or anything else, and so I
couldn't work. And during that time, I would wake up
at four thirty in the morning with a chapter in
my head, and I would go to the kitchen. I

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would sit down and I would type the chapter, and
then that was the end of it for the day.
And I generated a thousand pages. And then one morning
I woke up and the organization of them was in
my mind, and so they organized into three books, and

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I had a chapter table of contents in my mind.
Another morning, I woke up and the title Backwards was
in my mind, along with a picture that or an
accent painting. I was supposed to do a painting of
source or the afterlife or something to go along with

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the title, but I never did the painting.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
But you painted with words, Yes, absolutely tell us just
a little bit. For listeners who are not familiar with
your Backwards series about the backwards books.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
The backwards books were the actually two, well there are
three of them, but there was a fourth one about
love that I I lost some computer hard drive crashed.
So the three backwards books are backwards returning to our
source for answers, which was kind of an overview of everything,
you know, like view from thirty thousand feet. Because I

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was hoping I could get one book published. I didn't
think there's an age, it's I could get th re published.
The second book, back which guide book, is the rest
of what I wanted to put in the first book,
but I was afraid I wasn't going to be able
to get that many pages published. And it also includes
answers to questions the readers were asking me, so it's

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organizing the question and answer format. And then the third book,
Backwards Belief, was all about that, you know, the seven
years of greeting my religion, and the way I got
peace around that whole issue was by writing backwards Beliefs
and understanding that. You know, what I was shown in

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the life is that human religions are based primarily on
the human experience, because that's all you know there is
to work with when when you don't know anything besides
human life. And so humans projected human traits onto God.
They project earth like scenery and lifestyle onto the afterlife

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because that's all they have. You know, it's it's impossible
to imagine the reality of source from the afterlife because
there's nothing like.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
It in human life.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
So, you know, I finally came to peaceful the fact
that you know, people weren't lying to me or withholding
information or trying to trick me. They just didn't know.
And so I that all the chapters and backwards beliefs
start with the idea that, you know, here's what I
learned as a Christian, and here's like an add to
it from what I learned in the afterlife to make

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the story more complete.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
The last time you were on, we discussed your book
Create a New Reaction, Move Beyond Law of Attraction theory.
What did you share with readers in that book?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
That is everything I can remember from the afterlife about
learning what manifesting is. I had three experiences in the
afterlife where I got these huge downloads of manifesting and
that is the term used in the afterlife for the

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creator creating physical matter, the physical universe. And I was
taught in the afterlife that we tiny little parts of
the creator of Source have the same ability to literally
create physical matter and physical reality, and we do that

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for the bodies we have it. So, you know, all
those people who think they're the victim of circumstances or
that they have no control over their lives, you know,
this book Creating New Reality tells you what I learned
directly from Source about how we do have control over
our lives, that we literally, from moment to moment, create

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the physical life that we are living. The reason why
we don't like large parts of it is because we
come up with these crazy, harmful beliefs early in childhood.
You know, like we might, for some crazy reason, think
that we're not worth anything. You know, maybe it's the
way we're treated by our parents or a sibling, or

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you know, it could be any number of things. But
we grow up believing we're worthless, or we're ugly, or
we're stupid, or you know, we can't control anything on
our own lives, so might as well act out. We
have all these crazy beliefs, and because we believe them,
we literally create our physical reality life to match those beliefs.

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So if you grow up believing that you're ugly, you
will create a lifetime where you will be enforced in
that belief that you're ugly, even though it's not true.
It could be the furthest thing from the truth. So
my book Created New Reality is to help people understand
how manifesting works and then how to make it work
for you. How to create a better reality, How to

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consciously manifest your life in a better way. How to
heal those crazy beliefs that you picked up in childhood
that never were true, but you didn't realize it, and
you've been building a life around them, and you can
undo that by undoing that harmful belief.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
My guest is Nancy Donison. When we come back, we're
going to be talking about her new book, thirty three
Souls Who Met God. Nancy, please share with our listeners
and get all of your books and find out more
about you.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well. Amazon of course has all of them. Some books
you can get order any of them at any bookstore.
I think Barnes and Noble carries some of them. Actually
Target carries my books, not all the Target stores, but
you know I've seen them advertised there. And then I
have a website n I N C, I D A
M I S O N dot com where you can

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get my books and other things and get more information
about me and have a YouTube channel, Nancy Danilson.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
And you also have these webinars I do.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I have webinars once a month on topics that my
readers send to me, anything to do with the afterlife,
for dying or near death experiences, just whatever we can
come up with.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
And how do they find out about those webinars?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
They're on my website Nancy dot com.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
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Speaker 1 (26:23):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guests, the wonderful Nancy Donison,
We're going to be talking about her brand new book,
Thirty three Souls Who Met God accounts from Atheists, Buddhists,
and Christians who died and met the same God. Nancy,
what inspired this new book?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I have been looking for others like me since nineteen
ninety four. I knew I couldn't be the only soul
that had the experience that I did. And I read,
you know, every neardath experience book that I could find,
all the research works that I could find. I watched
YouTube videos as I read accounts on the internet, just

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hoping to find somebody else like me. Well, then a
few years ago I found Andre Andy Petro and you
can find him on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
He's wonderful.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
And I thought, oh, there's two of us. And I
figured out, well, if there are two of us, there's
got to be more. So I three years ago made
a concerted effort to review near death experience accounts on
the Near Death Experience Research Foundation website, and so all
together over the thirty years, I reviewed and cogitated on

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about two thousand experiences, and among the two thousand, I
found thirty two others like me. Now they didn't, you know,
have all the same experiences in the act like that.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I did.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Some of them had some of the ones that I did.
Others had other experiences I had. You know, nobody was identical,
but they all had experiences like mine in some respect.
But the most important part is they learned exactly what
I learned about Source the Creator, about the creation of
the universe, about the creation of souls, about the purpose

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of life and why we are here. And I was
so validated by.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That, just out of curiosity. The number thirty three has
a very strong spiritual significance. Did you ever resonate on that.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
No.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I heard that. I did an interview much long ago,
and somebody told me, actually somebody else time as a network,
told me that thirty three was significant. I did not
know that the book was for a long time thirty
two souls. And then after I had it finished, I
found another one. So I had to go back and
edit the whole thing to add the thirty third, and

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I'm so glad I did.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Absolutely, there's a certain amount of power and the number
thirty three. Number thirty three is associated with Jesus Christ,
et cetera, so there's a lot of connections with that.
So it's good that you did the descriptions of God
shared by those you interviewed was quite different from what
we might expect. How did they describe God and how

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did this relate to your experience.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
That was the first indication when I read a near
death experience or saul one on the internet that it
was somebody like me. It was their description of source,
because you know, religions are all like I say, they're
projections of human life onto God. And so most religions
have a God that is humanoid. Christianity has actual a father,

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you know, a male God and a male son. Other
religions had, you know, like a Buddha or goddesses or
you know zeus. You know, all kinds of different gods
have been in fashion around the world at various times,
but they've all been humanoid in nature. The hallmark of

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what I call an expanded afterlife experiencer, someone who goes
into the afterlife and hasn't expanded experience or expansive or
deep experience, is that we have seen the Creator in
its raw source energy in its raw form, and it's
pure form with no human projections on it. And the

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thirty three Souls described Source as energy, a force field
of love, a river of sparkles, a collection of golden orbs.
A energetic thing was like sparkles or you know, blue

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lightning bolts of energy or energy that's alive and vibrant
and moving. And that's what I experienced. You experienced Source
as an energy field. And everyone agrees of the thirty
three that what that energy feels like when we're anywhere

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near it is love. What humans think of as love
is actually the creator sources energy. It's a fabulous experience
to be that close to Source, to just be blasted
with unconditional love.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You share that souls come from Source and that we
are collectively God, please explain.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
All of the thirty three while that you know, once
they encountered this energetic phenomenon, also saw that it had
a collective nature. It was just it was one, but
also had a collection of like sub personalities or mental

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characters or kind of like our dream characters. You know,
if you wanted to, you could think of our own
mind as being our core personality plus all the dream
characters we've ever had that are in there too. Or
maybe a novelist and you know, somebody who's written a
lot of novels, maybe they'll have different groups of characters

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in different sets of novels, and they keep all those
imaginary book characters in their mind. So it's kind of
like that we all recognize that Source is a collection
of what humans would call souls. Those souls are actually
part of sources own consciousness and self awareness. So there's

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only one consciousness and existence, one self awareness. But we
all we souls inside these bodies. We share that little
bit of it, you know, not the whole thing, obviously,
And so that was another defining characteristic of someone who
had an experience like me, is that they became aware

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or recognized that Source is a collective entity, and they
also realized through their experience in the afterlife that they are.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
It.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
They are the phenomenon. You know. We are all part
of Source. We are all Source, and when we leave
it incarnation and we return to the Source, we become
aware that we are Source once more. And if we
want to incarnate again, we just differentiate ourselves from the
collective and go back into a physical matter body somewhere

(33:53):
in the universe.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
It's totally mind blowing.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
When I was in the New Seminary and Intricate Seminary
back in the nineteen nineties, one of the teachings was
that when God created humanity, Adam and Eve, that from
that point forward he said, I do nothing, I do
nothing on my own. I do nothing my own from
now on, I do everything with you. Through you. You

(34:21):
go on to share in your book that in essence
that we are the experiential extension of Source. What does
that mean?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
What the thirty three were given as knowings in the
actual life when they were within Source was that the
purpose of life was for Source to get to know itself,
to you know, stretch its mental and creative and emotional
limits to see what all they could do. In order

(34:52):
to really reflect upon itself and to know itself, it
had to have another perspective beside its own, so started
creating these mental characters with which it could interact, same
way we do in dreams. And you know, depending on
what kind of dreams you have, you might learn something
about yourself through the eyes of a dream character the

(35:13):
way they treat you. But that's what Source point wanted.
It wanted to experience itself and everything that it could imagine,
everything that it could create, and everything that it could become.
But through the eyes of others it created all these
others in its mind what we call souls, and put

(35:35):
them into the physical universe that it created and holds
in its mind. The universe is not separate from the creator.
It's within the creator's mind, just the same way our
dream scapes are within our own linds on a much
grander scale.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Obviously, So in that event, if this is the experiential extension,
you know, and virtually every religion around the world, there
an of the Golden rule. Love thy neighbor as thyself,
do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.
But some people come and they incarnate, and they're not
the nicest in the world. What explanation do you have

(36:12):
for that?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
What I was told and some of the other thirty
three is that we souls are literally Source. We have
the same innate nature, which is unconditionally loving, non judging, creative, curious, funny,
fun loving. And then also Source gave us character personality

(36:41):
traits that it can imagine but doesn't personally have. And
so each of us is a combination of Source and
these other traits, and we exist separately and apart from
physical matter. The physical world was created by Source expelling

(37:04):
a huge amount of mental energy and then imposing what
we would call laws of nature on that energy. You know,
things like gravity, molecular cohesion, and chemical reactions, the laws
of physics. Those were all like guide rails set around

(37:25):
this energy for it to evolve and let it just go,
like let that energy go to see what it could
create and what would evolve over time, And eventually what
evolved was you know, the universe as we observe it now, stars, moons, suns,
you know, empty space or what seems to be empty space,
you know, galaxies galore, all of which we can incarnate into.

(37:51):
So Source puts these mental characters, personalities, what we call souls,
into thehysical matter. And one of those types of physical
matter that we can choose to incarnate into is humans.
I watched, you know, the creation of Earth, a creation
of all life on Earth. I watched the evolution of humans,

(38:12):
and you know, I saw them go from chemicals and
goo to what we see now, and we souls can
choose to enter into them. Humans are alive, they're biological creatures.
They do not need a soul in order to live.
Most of them have souls, but they are as well.

(38:34):
Some people call them a vessel, but they're way more
than that, you know, because they're alive, they have personality,
they have a lifespan, and they have experiences. You know,
what humans live is all they're ever going to know.
We souls inside them have eternal life, and we come
and we share a human's life with it, with him

(38:54):
or her in order to see, you know, what they experienced,
what their life is like.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
So the essence of compassion, of forgiveness, of loving kindness
is a choice.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
It's the nature of the soul within the body. All humans,
like all other animals, have the survival instinct, you know,
which leads them to be self absorbed, selfish, violent, combative, competitive,

(39:34):
you know, everything that an animal needs to do to survive.
That's what humans do. They're just animals. And when we
souls enter into a human, we may or may not
be able to show our own personality through the actions
of the animal we're inhabiting. And because we come here

(39:54):
to experience, you know, the physical life that's available to
us through our host. It doesn't matter. If we spend
a whole life acting like an animal, that's fine, that's
why we're here. If we spend a life more like
you do, you know, being of spiritual mind and body
and soul and helping others and you know, performing a

(40:16):
mission like we both do. That's fine too, it's not necessary.
So what we see in human behavior is a conbined
effort of animal and soul, sometimes fighting each other. That's
where we get that idea of an angel on one
huldren and a devil on the other. It's really two

(40:36):
personalities in one body, the animal personality with all of
its drives and instincts for survival and for me me
and me, me, me, because that's the way humans are,
along with all the instincts and personality traits of the
soul of source, which are love and compassionate and non

(40:57):
judgmentalists and you know, doing what's the us for everyone
concerned learning and being curious and creative and all that's
all goes into a mishmash into one body. And what
we see is, you know, how those forces interact and
combine or fight each other.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
One of the things that I've personally recognized, especially the
last few years, is that I'll meet someone who I've
never met in this lifetime, and by the time I've
spoken with them for five minutes, I sense that their
sole family that I've traveled with this person or the
soul before. Are their sole families and do they incarnate together?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I think family carries a connotation to animal like in nature,
because we're not related to the souls that we love.
But we do have loved ones. When I died, the
first time I met or reunited with my five most
belovity eternal friends, none of whom I've ever incarnated with.

(42:03):
But we do have these eternal loved ones, and we can,
if we like, decide to incarnate with them, or we
may just know other souls in the afterlife that we
decide we want to incarnate with. And you know, it's
a huge gift when you realize that, you know, when

(42:25):
you're living in a human life and you realize, I
know this person from the afterlife and you recognize them
in a body I've done that, that's you know, and
you usually know right away that there's somebody that you've
known in the afterlife.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And it's a special gift, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
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Who Met God. Will be back with more after these
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Speaker 1 (44:47):
Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week the wonderful
Nancy Donnison. Her book Thirty Three Souls Who Met God
accounts from Atheists, Buddhists, and Christians who died met the
same God. Nancy, what form do we assume in the afterlife?
If we don't have these material bodies? What are we

(45:08):
like in the afterlife?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Early on, we might perceive ourselves as maybe a light
being or energy, or something vaguely humanoid in shape.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Or not at all.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
You know, that's just some of the thirty three did
Most of them did not. But I know other afterlife
experiencers who have kind of a perception of a spiritual body.
But that drops away, you know, once we get used
to being in the afterlife, it's completely gone, and we
perceive ourselves as a point of awareness, a mind maybe

(45:47):
a personality without any physical components of all, a state
of existence, a state of awareness.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Do we actually have what some people call a life review?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Oh? Yeah, In fact, I was, I've had two, and
I was told that the life review is kind of
a It's one of the early aspects of being in
the afterlife because its purpose is to help us acclimate
to the fact that we're no longer in human life,

(46:21):
and also to open us up to our own natural,
unconditional love, so that we can watch the life that
we just left from an attitude of unconditional love and
learn about ourselves and about how we impacted other people.
We might learn the why of everything, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Why did we so do this? Or why did I
do that? Or why did this happen?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
You get all those wise answer during the life review.
You can also get inside other souls and perceive yourself
from their perspective and feel their emotions and hear their
thoughts and understand objectively what was going on in a transaction,
what kind of impact you had on them and them

(47:09):
on you. And you can also in a life review
see what might have happened if you'd made a different choice.
It's a wonderful, wonderful experience, multidimensional, multi media. And then
some of the thirty three, which is another kind of
defining characteristic of having it expanded afterlife experience. Some of

(47:30):
them saw during the life review like I did, other
lifetimes that they had lived or infinity wo and some
of them saw the future I did in my second
life review, I saw my own future. So it's a
really it's a humbling, it's a grounding. It's a transitioning

(47:55):
type of experience to bridge the gap between living the
life you thought you were and you the personnelity you
thought you were, and realizing that there was so much
more to you than that.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Is life as an incarnate soul in the material dimension?
Is it real or is it an illusion?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Both? It's absolutely real for the physical matter being or
thing that you're inhabiting, like you know, Victor the human
animal and Nancy the human animal are completely real to
them and to other humans and to the physical universe.
But we souls. Once we get out and we return

(48:39):
home to the afterlife, we realize that because we've got
this broader perspective, we've got this eternal perspective, we've got
this infinity to look back on and forward to. We
realize that human life wasn't the real us. It was
a real experience for the body, but it wasn't the
real us. That we're so much more than that. We

(49:02):
have so many other lifetimes, so many other experiences that
you know, human life is just a drop in the bucket.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Is there an actual heaven or Hell?

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I learned that there is no hell. I watched creation twice,
and I was with Source and remembered what life was
like before Source created the universe, and there was no
satan or devil or evil spirit or there's no opposite

(49:36):
to you know, the unconditionally loving Source. So I saw
and I also learned from you know, having downloads of
knowledge from Source, that no such creature like that exists.
Human religions and human spiritual beliefs have created various forms
of devils and evil spirits that resigned in a fictitious health.

(50:02):
But we don't need to fear that because it doesn't
really exist. Heaven is a humanized version of earth life.
You know, it's perceived as having beautiful gardens and mansions,
and you know, earth life only supercharged, and that doesn't
exist either. What exists is so much better. I mean,

(50:26):
being completely saturated with unconditional love and unconditional acceptance, and
freedom of thought and freedom of movement, and the ability
to download any amount of information or knowledge that you want,
to be able to merge into others that you love
in the afterlife and live their lifetimes and have them
live yours and emerge together and awaken source. I mean,

(50:49):
it's just it's just beyond comprehension for a human. Yes,
but I will tell you, and you know this. The
first time I was in the afterlife, you know, I
was im bliss, But I missed some things about human life.
I miss chocolate, I missed the wind on my face,

(51:12):
I miss the feeling of sunshine. I miss being able
to feel a hug. So there are some exquisitely wonderful
things about human life that we take for granted that
even though the afterlife is sublimely blissful, and some respects

(51:33):
to be more desired than human life. There are some really,
really rich and wonderful parts of human life that we
come here for, like sex. I mean, some souls come
here just for a sex. One of the afterlife experiences
I read said that, you know, she learned in the
afterlife that we might come here just for the cake, just.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Like I come here just for the chocolate.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
You know, there are just some delicious treats in human
life if we would only stop and enjoy them.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
And again, as we shared, we are the experiential extension
of Source. So consequently, every time we have that wonderful,
delicious piece of cake, Sources having that wonderful, delicious piece
of cake.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, and I think Source is a chocoholic myself.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
That's an explanation for why I think so much.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Jarga.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
That's funny. How did these experiences affect the religious beliefs
of those who return from the experience.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Most of them give up their former religious beliefs because
they're incompatible with what they actually lived. Among my thirty three, though,
the ones who had a background in Buddhism or Hinduism,
and one Native American, they're believe some more aligned with
what they learned in the afterlife, and so they didn't

(52:57):
really give those up. My added to them. But all
the Christians came back with a completely different idea of
source and souls and heaven and everything else, and so
they abandoned their formal religious instruction and beliefs.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
What would you like readers to take away from thirty
three souls who met God?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
The thing that jumps out at me the most is
that these were all humans with vastly different beliefs, different lifestyles,
different ages, races, sexes. You know, they were just completely
different when you just look at the human but when
they went into the afterlife, they were the same. They

(53:43):
all had the same experience that they all recognized and
realized and became the same God, and all the divisiveness
of their human religions was gone. And I think that's
an important lesson of co Urus, particularly right now, when
you know people are so divided over every single thing,

(54:04):
every single thought that a person can have, is that
none of that matters. We're all really just one literally,
not figuratively, not spiritually, but literally, and that if we
could get in touch with that more, we wouldn't have
the strife and the anger and the violence and the

(54:27):
upheables that humans are currently experiencing worldwide.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
My guest Nancy Dinason her book thirty Three Souls Who
Met God, accounts from Atheists, Buddhists, and Christians who died
and met the same God. Nancy, one more time, please
share with our listeners where they can get your books
and find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
You can get my books. The easiest way is just
to go on Amazon, and I think they've got them
at Amazon UK and maybe some of the others. I'm
not sure about that, but I think they have Barnes, Nobles,
Target Kmart, just not any bookstore can order them if
they don't have it on the shelf, and you can

(55:08):
order them for me Nancy and A N C I
Danison d A n I s O N dot com
and tell.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Us about the gatherings that you offer there.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Also, once a month, I have webinars over zoom to
present the information that I received in the afterlife on
a particular topic, and then we discuss it and people
ask me questions and I ask them questions, and then
I sell the video of the presentation part, but not

(55:40):
the discussion part. So I like to keep those as
just an informal exchange of ideas between the people who
actually participate. So you can either attend the webinar in
person and participate, or you can get a view the
video after the fact.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Nancy, thank you so much for joining us again and
sharing this amazing information.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Thank you Victor for having me and for putting up
with my inability to concentrate because you know, the afterlife
is so compelling it just draws me.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
And thank you for joining us on destination on Livehead.
I'm Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.

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