38 Asunta Yong Fang

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you an episode that was very media, but despite that, we believe it
is our obligation and we want tocontribute our small grain of sand so that
you never forget what happened to him. Assume your real name was Fang Young.
He was born on September 30,2000 in Junan, China, with

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only one year of life. Itwas adopted by Alfonso Basterra and Rosario Porto
and was written in the Spanish registeras Asunta Basterra Porto, the first child
adopted in Santiago de Compostela. Heradoptive mother, Rosario, was a well
- known person within the city,the daughter of a well- known lawyer

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and a mother professor of history,a family belonging to the upper middle class
of the compostelan society, so theadoption of the little astunta was a social
event in Santiago. From a verysmall point of view he began to stand
out in everything he undertook. Thosewho knew her speak of a funny,

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extroverted girl and all stand out theirintelligence with high abilities that showed in any
activity she developed in school, inmusic in French, in dance in all.
On Saturday, September 21st, twothousand thirteen, at ten o'

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clock in the middle of the night, his parents filed a complaint at the
Santiago de Compostela National Police Station forthe disappearance of his twelve- year-
old rosary daughter. Her mother lefther home alone doing homework around 6:
00 p m. When she returnedtwo hours later, her daughter was not
at home and they knew nothing abouther. But those parents were too calm

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for the gravity of the events theywere denouncing, which did not go unnoticed
by the agents who processed the complaint, a complaint that would be the beginning
of a fact that would mark theSpanish black history, behind the truth,

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a journey through the black history ofour country. Alfonso Basterra, born in
nineteen hundred and sixty- four,was a journalist originally from Bilba, settled
in Santiago de Compostela for twenty yearsand specialized in economic issues. I knew

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Rosario Porto when she was still studyinglaw and he had just arrived in the
city. On October 26, athousand nine hundred and ninety- six married
in separation of property. As wehave told you, Rosario belonged to a
well- known family. He finishedhis law studies at the University of Santiago
and worked in his father' soffice. In March of nineteen hundred and

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ninety- seven she was named Consulof France in Santiago, a representation she
inherited from her parents. Rosario's parents kept asking her for a grandson
or granddaughter, but she took seriousrisks and became pregnant because of her lupus
disease, so the couple decided toadopt Asunta when she was only one year
old. We listen to the parentstalking about their daughter to a local landlike

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medium you start crying. It wasall to start crying, that he won
' t let anyone near us thatwe were clear. I couldn' t
get you anywhere near less than amile past the yard border that started crying.
I think it' s a hugecommitment. The caciere when you cede
a child is already for the samething as a fatherhood or biological motherhood.

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Alfonso had no occupation at the timeof Asunta' s disappearance. He had
lost his job six months earlier becauseof what they lived on Rosario' s
salary. Rosario' s parents haddied with only seven months of difference between
the two. In December of thetwo thousand eleven and in July of the
two thousand twelve. Both died ofsudden death, which generated some surprise in

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the family and made their daughter theheiress of an important family heritage that only
in comes and real estate was valuedat two thousand twenty, exceeding one million
euros. The marriage had been separatedsince January of the two thousand and thirteen.
In discovering Alfonso' s infidelity ofhis wife, the divorce judgment came

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by mutual agreement on February 14.Despite this, she cared for the girl
and her ex- wife, who, in addition to her Lupus disease,
suffered depressive episodes. In return,Rosario helped him financially. They lived in
homes close to 200 meters in parallelstreets. Alfonso in the street Republica Argentina
and Rosario in the street Doctor Teisero. We listened to José Antonio Pérez,

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friend and companion of Las Terra.Ever since he got to Asuntas Santiago.
Alfonso was followed by business. Yousaw her take her to class, go
find her, take her to beautifulactivities. Alfonso, very, very much,
with astunta like Rosario, that loverwho had business in Morocco, She

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spoke French. They travel together toMorocco. Rosario needs someone to stay with
the girl and Alfonso stays. Alfonsogoes from being a father to being the
servant. Thus, in quotation marksshe cares for the child, she does

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so in exchange for the money shecontinues to enjoy her status. But of
course I saw Alfonso Basterra every daywith the girl. I knew that Alfonso
Basterra was taking the girl to thepool, I knew that the foobaster was
going with the girl to music classes, that is, I knew that Alfonso
was disviving himself or at least apparentlybecause of the girl. From the time

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I saw him, he was withhis parents, for eighty percent I saw
him with the father, ten percentwith the two and another ten percent with
Rosario alone. I feel like Galicia, Guasnates, tell me, I call

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it there were puppies here. Please, it' s just that we found
a friend here and we think he' s dead. They think she'
s dead. Yeah, yeah,we think that' s wrong, that
he' s got white eyes,he' s got nose blood, he
' s pissing and he' slying here on the awning next to a
canolopa to see exactly, tell me, where are you guys? We'
re in the rota de trachodos,where he yells at her and sits on

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the left, a forest track thatgot into an exit. They were close
to the child. They haven't touched, not we haven' t
touched life, but we' rehere next to it. This call made
at one and a half o'clock in the morning confirmed the worst omens
and astounds. She was found deadon a forest track in feros in the
municipality of Teo, very close tothe main road of Cacheiras, on the

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coruña, just five kilometers from Montouto, where the girl' s parents had
a chalet. A twelve- year- old girl was found dead with signs
of violence on this road to themunicipality of Coruñes de Teo, near Santiago
de Compostela. It appeared in thisarea Bosco, although a few meters from
the general road commotion in Santiago andespecially in this Rosalia de Castro institute.

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There she was studying the 12-year- old girl, whose body was
found 10 kilometres from home yesterday.His companions have kept five minutes of silence
today while the Civil Guard investigates whocould have done harm to a minor.
It was found in a supine ulnaposition, that is, face up,
with its left arm semi- flexed, placed on the shoulder area and strange

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orange ropes next to it. Hisbody had been deposited with great delicacy.
The case of the investigating judge JoséAntonio Vázquez Tain, known for his previous
and recent performance in the recovery ofthe Calixtine Code and for the serious railway
accident of Angrois at first, thejudicial police officers of the civil guard think

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as the first hypothesis of a sexualassault. We heard the judge of the
case himself at the time of thebody removal. What found us was clear
evidence. That just opened up thefan to know that any possibility was possible.
Since we don' t have aclear line, we' re not

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going to sleep until we have allthe data we thought gathered, because what
we were afraid of was how muchany data rans that could orient us a
little bit if one of the reasonscould disappear so there' s no exploitation
of the corpse in the place,which was of the things that critical people
hear. Why didn' t theytake the body' s temperature, because
they stripped us of the girl,why? Because we' re on a
paramor and we' re in themiddle of a forest. If you undress
a corpse, you' re gonnacontaminate it. Right now there are techniques

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to date death. On the dateof death, there are techniques to analyze
what are the very advanced cadaveric remains. You don' t need to take
the temperature. Then what we didwas as if it were a bag,
that is, his feet were bagged, his hands were bagged in a bag
of his head, that body waspreserved as much as possible so that it
would lead to sla autosias, justas it was on the track at four

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o' clock in the morning.Only two hours after the discovery of the
Guardia Civil, they are imprisoned atthe parents' home in Santiago to tell
them the sad news. They carryout a first inspection of the girl'
s bedroom in Santiago and move withthe parents towards Chalet de Theo, just
five kilometers from the place where herdaughter appeared. Upon arrival, agents notice

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that it has an alarm, whichallows them to have a record of connections
and disconnections from it. Rosario asksto go to the bathroom heading to the
upper floor. A benemerite agent followshim discreetly and watches him go to the
marriage bedroom where he surprises her tryingto manipulate a trash can. Inside.

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The officers find ropes equal to thosefound next to the body of the asunta,
a wet handkerchief that after his analysiswas verified to contain adn of the
girl, despite the fact that theyhad allegedly not come to that house and
a mask for six months. Atthat time, the Civil Guard asked the

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investigating judge for a court order tosearch the house. Come on, he
tells us he has to activate thegun, because the house has the lookout,
it always turns off an alarm.That is an interesting fact for the
investigation, because we speak with doséltimamesays sectionvan to be reflected and the registered
honorary of disconnection, and it isjust just a fair the strong and that
the alarm is activated when it beginsto comment in escesita to go to the

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bathroom, it needs ircungency to thebathroom and automatically undertakes, since the climb
of the stairs on the first floor, the top floor as we climb,
there is a room. She wentinto that room and my partner died.
If he goes in after her,then there are a few words between them.
Not from where she wants to justifysomething and he takes a trash can
and she wants to sharpen him,shake his hand, the palara to catch
it manipulated inside, because he hadseen objects that paver. So, at
that moment, when you' vealready pulled out, they look like the
shirt. I have done wrong beforewe actually do tell you and the declarant

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stops at Sali' s door stopI say stop stop you from entering the
third stop and indeed, I donot make it hard, I do not
stop it, I do not seeit in the door of attention. I
get to tell you the p Ienters the bichcation, finate tración, but
it is enough to render the focus. You have a continuous me physically the
barium that looks, that stops themstopping in the room and at that moment
in a hundred light and enters,because we are ahead of her nest,
this for weave. We go incontinuously, I mean, we throw that
first pause and it comes in islike a wicker bin and you see what

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' s inside it. There's a piece of rope, a bunch
of paper and at least a maskof that clear to see, a mask
next to a rope that' ssimilar to the one. We' ve
seen a prece do line of lessthan two kilometers from this house. We
don' t like it, obviously, so we don' t say we
' re going to stop you,we' re going out, we'
re going to make the temper thatyou' re seeing and you call eyes
to inform you of what we've found and two then platify a record

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more than exustive to see why it' s pizcorde in that place and if
the same thing should be learned toleave or compare with those that have been
found a lot. The study ofthe ropes found in that bin shows that
it is the same rope in shapeand chemical composition as those found next to
the body, although the body ofthe body had no marks treated, so
it is believed that it was tiedabove the clothes, perhaps to facilitate the
transfer of the girl' s body. A rope appears in one place and

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appears in another place. Besides,it' s a rope. What'
s the point of someone having arope in a bedroom? No one is
able to explain to us how thatobject reaches a particular place. Its chemical
composition, its different characteristics add upcircumstances that you have to evaluate pological.

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A comparative study and what we concludeis that three of those pieces of strings
collected on the branch force track coincidein all their physical properties and chemical composition
with the string roll and with onepiece of strings more than those appearing in
Theo' s family home. Thatdoesn' t mean or we have no
evidence that they have a common originin that evidence. Two analytics were made,

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one from the paint and one fromthe plastic component. We are already
talking about bigger words. It isalmost the DNA of that of The next
day, José Antonio Pérez, deputydirector of the Galician Correo, receives a
call from Alfonso Basterra, former colleagueand collaborator of the newspaper, not to
mention in the newspaper the mother ofthe girl Rosario Porto. Being a well

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- known person in Santiago de Compostela, something that puzzled José Antonio, I
come to the newspaper' s newsroomlike any normal Sunday and in that they
call me Alfonso Basterra wants to talkto me. I get the call and
Alfonso tells me that I was lookingat the websites and that only on the

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website of the mail appeared the newsof the murder of the girl and asked
me if we could remove her.What are you doing watching the websites because
they just killed your daughter, youknow my wife is a very well-
known person. My wife' sbroken. The director said he' s
a partner. He' s askingus a favor. They' re having

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a hard time and he authorized meto publish that she' s Alfonso Basterra
' s daughter, but not topublish that she' s Rosario Importo'
s daughter. I told her Mirathat here the protagonist, the acquaintance and
Rosario Porto, and he said don' t hit it. We are going
to do the same favor to thecompañero And that day, we went out
the next day saying that she wasthe daughter of the journalist Alfonso Basterra and

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without making an allusion to Rosario Importo. The autopsy revealed that Asunta did not
suffer sexual assault and that the causeof his death was mechanical suffocation, i
e, asphyxiation of death by aphysia. He usually presents injuries when the victim
offers resistance in case of assault.These lesions were very subtle, which showed

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a very mild resistance. The toxicologyreport would explain a few days later why
the girl' s lack of resistanceto suffocation is that you' re there
where we find microscopically the most relevantdata, the car gets loaded. The
injury to the astunta' s mouthproved pressure on his face, on his
cheek. At the moment, thereis some opposition, because even under the

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effect of drugs and the mechanical containmentof a certain opposition, but, among
other things, it would not remainof aggression in the mucosa of the mouth.
If the person did not resist,there is some resistance. At some
point he may have escaped the pressureaction, breathed some of enough to prove
any injury, and then continued theuse of force. This was put immediately
to the judge who was out here. It was two things we put the

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judge on that afternoon. It seemsunlikely that I have dealt with a sexual
assault and in the answer to thesecond question that the good judge has asked
and what he died of, well, most likely there has been a suffocation
of the girl. Alfonso and Rosariorequested the incineration of their daughter' s
body, which was authorized by thejudge, a decision that was highly criticized.

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Curious is the picture parents take ofthe coffin and the funeral ornaments that
they had stored on their cell phones. Let' s see and I had
already talked to the technicians and forensictechnicians had told me. We analyzed the
body. We have extracted enough samplefrom the body to repeat all the authors
that they want, as to repeatall the analytics that they want. So,

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keep that body. That' ssuperfluous. The results didn' t,
but we had the hair samples,the humor samples, the tissue samples.
Sufficient samples are always kept for analyticalpurposes, the most hypothetical of all.
You can make a second green.On Monday evening 23rd, Asunta'
s music teacher, volunteered to testifyat the Guardia Civil barracks, telling the

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officers that Asunta had gone to classin dizzyness on several occasions. The last
was the 23rd of July, whereasunta was very dizzy. She told the
teachers that she had been sleeping fortwo days in a row and that her
mother had given her white powder.What had happened. In July they called

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me to tell me that it waswrong. I was coming to see her
and anyone at school. First questionwhat happened and told me the professor of
the Asunta that it is not clearI hers with gave me some hands.
He just touched you. Then they' ll quote us. He just said
that his father had said that hehad a very strong treatment to power the
board. How about it' ssad with the energy and she said no.
No. No. Not me,I' m allergic. If they
gave me some fucks that knew howto miss that I' ve been sleeping,

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I don' t know how manyhours and nobody wants to tell me
the truth. I don' twant to say what' s going on,
but who gave it to Mom before. The girl has coordination problems,
she has a dry mouth, shewants to sit down. Oh, hey,
hey, what? So what,Alfonso, is that the year we
don' t take on everything verywell in a class says ah no,
ah, because I was like alittle bit to elec Of course if I
' m giving you antetaminics, it' s normal that I' m a
little dizzy ch no, no,but we don' t give you anything.

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At most a happy lis to clearthe nose, but we don'
t read anything to us. Andthen, right at that moment there is
a matter with the vasillo and thegirl didn' t walk straight and bar
because with sumotheilla and the violin andleaning on the walls. In a first
version of the events, Rosario Portohad stated that she left matters about the
eighteen hours at her home in Santiagoto move to Teho' s house to
pick up swimsuits. When she cameback a couple of hours later, the

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girl was gone. The security camerascaptured an image where Rosario made this journey
in the company of Asunta. Uponlearning of the attendance of this video,
Rosario gives a new version saying thatshe went out with her daughter and after
a few minutes returned to Santiago toleave Asunta near Alfonso' s house,
returning alone to the initial Teo housethat they give to the police of Oye.

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The girl stayed at home studying becomesthe judicial version of the girl came
with me atheist, because we alreadyknow that the press has published that you
have image of the boy. Whenyou report the disappearance, you don'
t count the same times. Whenyou have to save your daughter' s

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life, you don' t rememberthe horrors or give them importance. Four
days later, yes, yes,but I have a question. Saying no
for being was very important. Forexample, to say it' s not
the same. You' ll lether come up in a box at six
o' clock, leave her atseven o' clock, that is,
we have to look her up ina camera. We have to find her

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at six, not seven. Thatdidn’ t make it possible to say
that day he told us that heleft home at 7: 30 because he
only had to look for swimsuits toride Tor and today he tells us that
he passed by home. He wasat most a quarter of an hour and
out. He wasn' t herein half an hour. I think one
saw was so nervous, so advilulous, so naughty that I didn' t

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tune in with what I was saying. I mean, eve them then at
about six o' clock at homearrived at the graja door, at six
in eleven minutes. He remembers thata tree had been forgotten, because a
bag of drastic and the girl insistedto pack with me. What' s
new? It' s not anothernovelty and it' s another novelty.

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It' s another novelty. Hedidn' t say the girl came out
of the box. I left thegirl at home. Let' s go
to eighties. Look, your daughterhad more than twenty- five eyelets.
When daughter got in the car,who helped her get her up, because
her daughter was so high that itwas impossible for her to walk through her
own skin. She said she wasgoing ballad and I thought she was kidding

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me. Daughter was the queen ofthe cave, my daughter of a girl
a thousand spun out and she wasa very smart girl, and I how
could I imagine that my daughter wasgoing to be dizzy by something. On
Tuesday, September 24th, at aroundthree and thirty, after the burning of
the body of Asunta Rosario, shewas arrested by the Civil Guard and charged

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by inconsistencies, contradictions and changes inversion of her statements did not allow her
to attend the burial ceremony of herdaughter, an arrest that surprised family,
friends and the entire Spanish society.On Wednesday, the 25th, the next

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day, the Judicial Commission, judicialand scientific police officers of the Civil Guard
arrested her and Alfonso Basterra, ascharged, move to Theo' s villa
for the search of the house.It is in that record that the media
were able to record Rosario in asmiling attitude and jokes, an unusual attitude

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for a mother here just murdered herdaughter. After the completion of this search,
Alfonso Basterna would be arrested and chargedalso for the murder of his adopted
daughter. What stuff impregnates everything fast. Yeah, yeah? Yes, yes,

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or laugh the relaxed smile with appetitein short, in good humor,
a disconcerting image to be a womanwho has just lost her child. It
strikes me very much that everyone whyyou think the mother smiles is a behavior
that does not correspond. What happensis that to us, as spectators,

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what produces us is a brutal rejectionthat in a moment of these characteristics a
mother can have that expression. Butfrom a judicial point of view, try
nothing. Morally, he does tellme something in that car gets stopped.
The father of Assuntat Alfonso Basterra,has been arrested after seven hours of search

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in the family home of Theo aCoruña. The father was now involved in
the search of the house as adefendant, although he was at large.
On the same day, the resultsof the toxicology report revealed that the matter
had consumed the equivalent of 27 pillsof one gram of orazepan, an active

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component of the orifice drug consumed byher mother, a preparation that could have
been supplied during lunch. Hence,the child offered no resistance. During the
axfisia, the Guardia Civil, whoknew that this medication was consumed by her
mother and who knew the episodes ofprevious dizziness declared by her music teachers,

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made arrangements at the UAs pharmacies inSantiago. Soon they find the pharmacy where
Alfonso Basterra had removed the orifice andthey manage to relate the purchases of this
medicine to the episodes of disorientation orabsence of the institute that had suffered astunta

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and witnessed. Both his colleagues andhis music teachers, Alfonso and Rosario always
justified these episodes by stating that hisdaughter was allergic, But the reality is
that Asunta was never assisted by anallergist. In the report submitted to the

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judge, the Civil Guard relates itperfectly. On July 5, Basterra bought
fifty Torfidal tablets. Four days later, July 9th, Asunta attended a stunned
and dizzy music class. On 17July, Alfonso Basterra again withdrew to a
box of twenty- five tablets.Less than a week later. The 23rd

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of July takes place the second episodeof Asunta' s dizziness in music class.
On September 16, Alfonso Basterra boughtfifty tablets of Orfidal. Two days
later. On September 18, Asuntadid not go to the Institute for being

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ill. I don' t knowwhat they' re giving me that nobody
wants to tell me the truth.They gave me some chickens that knew how
to miss that I' ve beensleeping. I don' t know how
many hours and nobody wants to tellme the truth. Give me what to
say. I remember an incident wherewhen I went it was to pick up
the daughters, then they told hernothing to complain. Let' s go
to daughter. Okay. I rememberthere' s never a doctor for the

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truth of the energy. Truth notclear normal. She' s energetic about
what you did. Asunta hair sampleswere collected that were an anal CSNS to
try to verify if it would havepreviously consumed the horace Pan. The result
is sativa. In the last threemonths the girl had consumed the medication due

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to these results, the accusation ofhomicide changes murder as the aggravating of lewdness
and kinship go on consumption over time. If I have an inch of hair,
I can establish the consumption of toxicsin the last month if I had
two centimeters in the last two monthsand so on. In fact, when

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body hair has been analyzed, ithas been known that toxic substances have been
consumed in life in gray or blondhair, where the amount of toxic drug
deposited is lower. In the caseof we aim to send a rather long
wick and it is positive in thelast moment is closer to the head that
in the last three four months ithad been given the national that what good

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rays is very possibly for that repetitionof behaviors. An isolated fact that has
no explanation is easy to admit.Several consecutive facts that have no explanation is
more difficult to admit and I believethat the Tribunal weighed heavily that they were
not able to explain. Determining strangebehaviors that occurred in July Certain behaviors years

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occurred the week before, just themurdered one. For three days, the
parents remained in two cells, onein front of the other in the Civil
Guard cells to facilitate communication between thetwo. All his conversations were recorded without
his consent by an order of theinvestigating judge. Later, the Provincial High
Court of La Coruña annulled the validityof these recordings and prohibited their use.

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At the trial. Listen carefully tothis fragment where Rosario asks her ex-
husband that if he didn' tgive that time it' s very calm.
I love you and you don't want to. That' s

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the most important thing to do.These problems you have to have. I
don' t know calm, calmdown, rest, and that might be
old enough for you. Hey where. I don' t give a damn,
don' t think about anything oranyone else is relaxed. Yeah,

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no, that' s not theattitude. There' s this love going.
I know what he' s goton us, but everything' s
going to be fine. It wasn' t the way you thought it was.
I know, I know, itmatters, but what I want most,

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I know how to live, I' m calm. Five days after
the discovery of the body of theAsunta, the judge, after taking their
statement, ordered the imprisonment of bothof them. This other recording obtained during
his stay in the dungeons has nowaste takes advantage to sleep a little bit

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early. Believe that sooner or laterit will fall look. I don'
t have any more Biniman and tomorrow, we' re already on provisional release
for a thing like that, butthen it' s okay, what'
s good. But if they findguilty and find him, don, demos,

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there will be judgment, There willbe judgment for him, not for
us, He will be imprisoned allhis life. Don' t say anything
inconvenient because you know they' renot recording it. I' m sorry
you don' t say anything immediacybecause we' re being filmed. And
what am I going to say nolonger, I mean, there' s

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nothing, but of course there's nothing. But whatever we say or
do you' ve seen you takeit like uh and I say it because
it' s your generation that diesthe Bajas is going to cause us a
lot of trouble. How to imagineit never strengthens him that it will cause
us many problems. That' swhy a lot of silence and I go

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to everyone. When he insects melike a cushion, you don' t
mean to harm you by aggregating peoplewith jojines, for clear kingdom my life,
but notice the answer to see howhe has nothing else. Parents say
suspects, but you understand me.You know time for all that stuff.
You think about it. God knowswhat, of course not, but it

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' s okay. There' snothing. And the other reason is just
another. There' s nothing.I' m sorry I hurt so much.
There' s nothing going on inthe past this sand, but they
say that' s what happens andthey' re pushing us. A d
My friend I was impressed that youthink that if I didn' t have

(33:05):
anything, let' s see herena. Well, you have nothing to
hide yourself, neither of us.Be calm my life and we' ll
say it to each other and okay, I' m all our gy.
Well, calm down, come on, no, not that he' s
going to go later. You know, I' m really scared, and
I' m scared, too.I mean, what do you think we

(33:27):
can' t and is what you' re trying to foster someone' s
trust in each other? I keeppacing that you' re innocent and you
see me continuing to maintain that I' m an or that we' re
agreeable. Tomorrow we have to saythe right thing. What I want,
then, is nothing more and withoutfirm measure, But what I do buy

(33:51):
you charo is that in the mornings, the beginning of the end of this
nightmare, you have played more attentionto anyone. I know how to live
there, I really know. Demowas skipping chapter. Apart from the two
woe give you leave oh blessed survived. What do you think are many who

(34:15):
point out that the father had nothingto do with the death and transfer of
the child. I think the CivilGuard' s cell footage makes it very
clear that he' s involved inthe events. Basterra was never a collaborator
in his statements, refusing at alltimes to be given expert tests on his
personality. Just get to know eachother. Asunta' s death a cousin

(34:40):
of Rosario Porto' s father toldreporters that there was an economic motive in
the crime of the girl because shewas the universal heiress of the grandparents and
pointed out that Rosario could have killedher parents as well. The Civil Guard
investigation ruled out the economic motive,as the report received was false. Rosario

(35:01):
was the only heiress and her parentshad made no donation in life to her
granddaughter. The grandmother had died inbed at seventy- seven years old and
the father seven months later, ateighty- eight years old, both due
to natural causes. The death certificateswere signed without problems and there was no
suspicion of these two deaths. TheCivil Guard could no longer investigate the incineration

(35:27):
of the two bodies. The investigatingjudge denied that investigations were being carried out
into these two deaths. In Decemberof the two thousand twelve, and after
inheriting all the goods, Rosario begana relationship with an entrepreneur from the area
with whom he made several trips outsideSpain. Alfonso, as I have said,

(35:47):
discovered in January this infidelity and separatedgetting a divorce on February 14th of
the two thousand thirteen. On June26th, two thousand thirteen, Rosario was
re- entered in urology at theHospital Clínico de Santiago for a pleasure of
her illness with dizziness, instability inwalking and the fall of an eyelid.

(36:08):
Stays in until July 1. Herhusband arrives at a covenant with her,
she will take care of her andassunta, but imposes the condition of cutting
off the relationship with her lover.We heard the paternal grandfather, Ramón Basterra.
I think that little girl, noteven a granddaughter, was smarter than

(36:35):
we still suppose, and I thinkshe can' t speak plainly, but
she knew more things. I'm sure. He probably disagreed with his
mother' s clearer behavior. Butif the girl realized that her mother let

(36:55):
' s talk straight, she hada lover about how the girl would suffer
because she was saying that her fatherwas the house steward. He wasn'
t his father He was the butler. When they split up and confirmed it,

(37:15):
he told me one thing that hasbeen very engraved on me. He
told you, you and who's going to make the food now.
The girl told me, that is, she' s my son, making
food at home. It creates theessence of your child yes, but it

(37:37):
suspects about the airport, for example, because it is my truth. I
have nothing but a suspicion. Nothingmore. I don' t have proof
of anything, nothing, nothing,nothing, but a suspicion. Yeah.
The night of the four to thefive of July of the two thousand and

(37:57):
thirteen there is a strange incident forcalling it something that could not be explained
today and that surprised everyone. Between2: 30 a m and 4:
30 a m, a man entersRosario' s home and tries to strangle
her in her room. Rosario claimsthat the keys were left in the door

(38:21):
for carelessness while she slept, sheheard noises. He got up and went
to his daughter' s room,where he was surprised by a man of
strong compression and low stature, tryingto strangle asunta, Rosario came in defense
of her daughter, and there wasa struggle between her and the aggressor,

(38:44):
running away this one surprisingly, hedid not call anyone to help them or
report the facts. Asunta told herbest friend, who had tried to kill
her, by whatsapp, but didnot talk about it again with her until
a few months later, when shewas having a trip with a friend and
her mother who told them the storythat had happened that night, Rosario went

(39:07):
to the police station in Santiago toask Never filed a complaint, despite telling
the friend' s mother that shehad done so. There are different interpretations
for this incident. Some believe thatit was a pure invention of the mother,
others that it was a first attemptto murder the girl carried out by

(39:28):
the mother or parents, or eventhat it was an excuse to provide her
with the orifice. Rosario' sthird neighbor testified at the trial that no
one entered the portal that night.It was impossible for a stranger to enter
without his dogs barking and that nightthe dogs did not change. In the

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month of August, Rosario suffers againa depressed picture, accompanied by anxiety and
Alfonso, she takes care of herasunta spends a month away from her parents,
first with her godmother from July 30to August 22 in Villanova. Later
she goes to the country a fewdays with her caregiver, the woman who
helped Rosario in household chores all thistime, the parents call her daily,

(40:16):
but they don' t visit herfor a single day. The girl,
however, seems cheerful, happy andcarefree. Since Rosario' s relationship with
her lover began, she had hadsome ups and downs and disagreements, the

(40:37):
first in June, coinciding with anadmission to the hospital and others that were
days before the events of the strangerwho allegedly entered her home and tried to
strangle the girl. The investigators believedthat there might be some kind of link
in these events, which was neverproven or investigated. In fact, Rosario

(41:00):
' s lover was never called totestify, which would have been interesting to
know the state of the mother's soul. Another surreal event will be
added to the investigation in October.The Central Laboratory of Criminalistics of the Guardia

(41:21):
Civil identify in two spots of thet- shirt basunta semen of a genetic
profile of a man, a youngColombian resident in Madrid. He had been
accused of raping a minor at aparty in his home, an act for
which he was subsequently acquitted. Thecondom with samples of its semen was found

(41:42):
in the same laboratory and in thesame cold chamber in Madrid, where the
rasunta shirt was analyzed that could becontaminated. The young man had a solid
fourth. The night of the events. He had dinner at a well-
known restaurant in Madrid and with hisgirlfriend, his sister and a friend,
having them as witnesses. Together withthe workers of the establishment. The same

(42:06):
night they had posted photos of thedinner on Facebook, as the metadata showed.
Even so, the defenses of RosarioPorto and Alfonso Basterra would attempt to
direct suspicions towards Mr Jaramillo, despitethe fact that it was very clear to
the researchers that the presence of semenwas due to contamination in the laboratory.

(42:28):
We are informed that this semen belongsto a Colombian citizen residing in Arroyo Molinos,
in Madrid, and what we areasked from the judicial authority is that
we carry out as detailed an investigationas possible to try to determine his possible
presence and to the facts in Santiagode Compostela we go to the home of

(42:51):
Mr Jaramillo. We tell him he' s involved in an investigation we'
re conducting and he' d haveto come with us to the Civil Guard
headquarters. It was just me andthat' s where they told me that
what I had done on September 29that I remember looking at Facebook, the
phone bases messages on it, theytook me to a room and they told

(43:12):
me to look. We are askingall these things because we know that you
have a case of alleged sexual abuseand, apparently, a stain of that
condom has appeared on the girl's shirt astounds Asian China, which already
appeared dead in Galicia, and becausethere I was blank because I didn'
t know what I was talking about. You have some explanation for the Civil

(43:37):
Guard having that men Of you Ihave a case open for a sexual assault
question. The one who had donehad sexual relations with the girl, because
it was with consents only that shesays no and already and they stayed with
her condom that he says he doesnot know Galicia, that he has not
left Madrid and nothing more than inMair to Valencia and that since he came

(44:00):
from Colombia, that he has notmoved from his house, that in sixteen
samples only two samples of half asquare centimeter, only two that are not
even contiguous, that are separate,give positive adn give positive to seming not
to deny it. The lab itself, what you' re saying. That,

(44:22):
of course, is impossible. Thereis no way to flow semen that
can stain two square spaces of halfan inch that are further separated. That
is to say, of course,this does not exist. Then there'
s been contamination. We would betalking about a gentleman moving from Madrid and

(44:44):
just between the seven that the motherleaves the girl and the eight that dies,
because she picks her up in thecenter of Santiago, without anyone being
noticed That' s why she movesher to a track that happens to be
five kilometers from where her mother's chalet is. Somehow it makes him
take Lor, makes large amounts ofbread and then leaves the body unabated on

(45:07):
a track and without abusing them.It' s something that doesn' t
fit us at all. In December, a former French colleague from Asunta appeared
before the Civil Guard in the companyof her mother as a minor to tell
them that she had seen Asunta inthe company of her father on the afternoon

(45:27):
of her death at about eighteen hours. Upon learning that Asunta had appeared murdered,
he told his parents. They saidnothing to protect their daughter, but
seeing in the media that it wasvery important to know Basterra' s activities
that afternoon, the parents decided thattheir daughter should testify before the investigating judge.

(45:47):
The youngest reported that she had beenbuying sneakers in a store and that
on leaving she saw asunta and herfather in a semaphorus she could not specify
the. Now he figured it wouldbe more or less. At about six
o' clock in the afternoon,the purchase ticket marked that the purchase was
paid at eighteen hours and twenty-two minutes. This statement implied a temporary

(46:09):
inconsistency with the camera of a gasstation in which Rosario images and took him
in his car towards Theo' shouse at six o' clock and twenty
- one o' clock. Atime lag that could be explained by the
fact that the cash register could notbe experienced after several days had passed,
the time could be misconfigured, asoften happens. The witness undoubtedly recognized Asunta

(46:32):
and her father. She was severelychallenged by the defense lawyers in case she
could have been wrong and it wouldhave been another day, but she was
sure. One hundred percent, fourthousand deaf, two thousand three. I
just needed to clear out how muchwe' ve been going with Asunta.

(46:53):
We are already talking about months ofsalt under the two or three years of
tales. Junta marked the weekend ofthe twenty- one and twenty- two
times you can tell us yes duringthat weekend, thank you, yes,
yes, Saturday was such, you' re sure of the matter. You

(47:15):
' re sure it was his father, Mira, that' s all,
because you' ll have to explainit to the jurors. Then there will
be a trial. You' resure it was them. Yeah, I
' m sure because I knew thecops very well when you told them this
later, I mean, it wasnothing more true than November of December.
Or out there I don' tknow, because you were your mother.

(47:36):
What you had told him, becausehe had directed the next Sunday, my
sister saw him, saw him ontwitter. Someone put a weet and came
down saying it could be asunta.And when it was confirmed, I told
him fuck, for I had ityesterday in the street, in the afternoon
and when I was under guinea pigsand then, when it started to be
said that the father said that youdid not get out of case I moved

(47:58):
from there in every turn It waswhen we made the decision to say it,
because I had seen it. Thefact that she appears three months later
is determined and that explains it somuch how her mother explains it perfectly by
the fact that she hears we haveseen in the press that no one knows
where the father has been. Thatpart. I didn' t want to
get my daughter into all this andI always thought that maybe someone else would

(48:22):
have seen it too and it wouldn' t be necessary. And a little
on the day that it was sotriggering, for it was because I heard
that there was a man who saidhe had seen her, but then he
said it wasn' t her.Then, well, I talked it over
with my husband and he failed usthat it had to be said, because
we need to find out where andwhen, because the hour didn' t

(48:45):
exactly find out, but it waspast five and a half safe and before
seven. I was going for thesize in general Bardines and I crossed with
aso oraste de stripe together and weare going up Republic Ecuador. I think
it' s called what you justdid just before in is Corrotagon, who
' ll be in that time alittle further back to locate the moment.

(49:06):
I' m going to ask thatif I went a document, it'
s about that in the relevance oflocating in time this the guard said,
practiced procedures and got the ticket tobuy the establishment. You' d have
to shop. It' s missthat yora on the 21st of September for

(49:27):
six and twenty- one is somethingnormal in walking I call your attention to
something. It is possible to haveseen her walking down the street around 18
twenties. Let' s see ifthe administration of the substance had been at
five o' clock in the afternoonfive and a half, you could have

(49:51):
walked it. This testimony raises severaldoubts as to where father and daughter came
from. If Asunta had been druggedduring lunch at Alfonso' s house and
the medication by oral ingestion takes anhour to make its maximum effect, because
the young woman did not notice anythingstrange in her walk. Toxicology experts and
the forensics who practiced optosia stated atthe trial that lorapepan is one of the

(50:15):
benzodiazepines that have the least effects asmuscle relaxant. Assume perfectly could have felt
a strong drowsiness, but without discoordinationof movements or difficulty walking. Doubts also
arise as to whether the intake wasduring lunch or an hour before his death,
which was adapted by the phonies betweenseven and eight in the afternoon.

(50:36):
In principle, the appearance of itis strained and remains of food, a
stomach of an autoxea does not haveto induce that they have been taken at
the same time if they were undigestedremains if they were solid remains of Cepan
canvas, as it may at agiven time, be thought to have been
with the food, but this isnot an affirmation that this sativa can be

(50:57):
made. As we are taking thistype of form, we need increasing doses
to produce the same effect and therecomes a time when they even do not
work, but it is a tolerancethat is acquired over the most immediate months.
At the end of December there willbe another important event. The laptop
computer and Basterra' s second mobilephone, which were lost since the beginning

(51:20):
of the investigation, appear surprisingly twometers from the entrance door of Alfonso'
s home, despite the fact thatthe apartment had been searched up to two
times previously. In June of thetwo thousand and fourteen, the media leaks
from the news that Alfonso Bastarra hadvisited many pornographic pages, videos and images

(51:45):
with women of Asian traits. Hesparked numerous rumors about the father' s
sexual tendencies. The proportion of videosor images belonging to Asian women was never
published. The report of the CivilGuard officers concluded that the accused consulted all
kinds of erotic pages, not justAsian women. Also that month Asunta'

(52:12):
s phone, before the mother's property, recovers some photographs erased images
of Asunta sleeping with his eyes closed, wrapped in a duvet, but especially
with promising. Photographs were taken afterthe girl' s end- of-
course valentine party. Astunta, nineyears old. She appears dressed in a

(52:34):
cabaret, with corset and dents ofgrills, like the rest of her companions,
since it was the suit chosen bythe teacher, but the parents had
made several photographs and in two ofthem, she looks lying next to an
armchair, with her legs open onan armrest and tired appearance. The 19th
of June of the two thousand andfourteen ended the investigation of the case.

(52:59):
The prosecution ordered or 18 years formurder for each of the parents. The
popular accusation by the Clara Campoamor Association, calls for 20 years in prison for
each one. On the 21st ofSeptember of the two thousand and fourteen,
the first year of the child's death, her adoptive mother Rosario,

(53:21):
recalled it with a skeleton that waspublished in the local press, in which
only one sentence can be read.I' ll always love you, Mom.
On the 12th of October of thetwo thousand and fourteen, the recordings
of the parents in the Calabozo weredeclared null and void, which could not

(53:45):
be heard at the trial. OnJanuary thirty- one of the two thousand
and fifteen, the audience once againrejected the freedom of the parents of Asunta.
On February 22, after the media, Father Alfonso was made a selfie
before his daughter' s coffin.The twenty- ninth of September of the

(54:06):
two thousand and fifteen begins the trial. The quieter and quieter transvas, yes,
well, let' s record thepill. Make it clear. It
' s been a quiet day already. That would be Japanese friends if not
people screaming at us, honey,what should you expect from people. Our
friends are in their respective homes supportingus unconditionally chicha Balus Agustín Carmen all over

(54:34):
the world. Those who are outare the marching Chus. Those who have
nothing else to do, those whoare absorbed by television and carnaza, nothing
more. That' s what counts. They' re not counting the others.
Those are the good guys and they' re all with us. You
know they don' t have,fortunately, no proof against us of anything

(54:55):
then what we' re here becausethey have to unload codes if they'
re going to ask fiscal questions.I did not manage to ask Tostás,
for you tired act to see thatyour daughter could build your daughter die,

(55:20):
that you would be some interest inthe death of Sunsa. Supposed to be
here. Thank you very much forstopping on October 1. She appeared at
the Rosario Porto trial, where shepleaded not guilty and I assure her that

(55:45):
she had had good parents. Yes, she related some violent episodes between her
and Alfonso Basterra, but never withthe girl. On October 9, the
specialist at the health center, Robledain Compostela had had. Then Rosario declared
at the trial that she felt adesire to die, although she assured that

(56:07):
she was only a risk to herself, not to third parties. He has
five depressive episodes. She' sa woman who' s been through three
depressions before she had the girl andtwo after the girl. Then it makes
it very difficult to think that thiswoman, who on top of herself cannot
have children, manages to have achild and then gets involved in this issue

(56:30):
that takes them eighteen years to jail. In many of the psychiatric reports,
you' ve been drawn up andyou' re depressed. Having certain narcissistic
traits does not have a personality disorder. It simply has features of histrionic personality,
of perfectionist woman. It adds atrait of narcissism that also has to
do with a model of education ofelite people. On October 30, the

(56:52):
verdict of the jury was heard,which found the parents guilty of the murder
of Asunta. The decision of thegame was taken unanimously after five days of
deliberations, with a particular impact onthe guilt of the father against whom there
was less firm evidence than against themother. The Provincial hearing in La Coruña

(57:13):
sentenced each of them to 18 yearsin prison for an offence of murder involving
the aggravating kinship. The two defendantsalways pleaded not guilty. On 22 November,
the Supreme Court also dismissed defence appeals. He acknowledged that there was no
evidence of the presence of Alfonso Basterrain the house where the murder allegedly took

(57:35):
place, but also condemned him,as he participated on an equal footing with
Rosario Porto and intervened in essential actsthat led to the execution of the criminal
act. If the intervention of Basterracould not have been carried out the macabre
outcome is told by the investigating judgehimself, the tribe of the Jury.
What I analyze is hear. Idon' t know where he is.
This gentleman has not been able toprove it. Instead, I have an

(57:58):
indication that he' s a witnessto it on the street. I don
' t know where this gentleman isand I have a hint that that body,
one person, can' t movehim. I don' t know
where this gentleman is, and yetI don' t have any cameras.
After the witness who sees you I' m going home, then I understand
that you' ve gone up toworth what the Tribunal says to you is
hear. Those same data can beinterpreted in favor of river We don'
t know about this gentleman. Then, if we don' t know,

(58:21):
we' ll always put him inthe favorable sea. And it is that,
although I was on the street,those who, if the witness sees
it, then turned to case,even if no camera takes it, I
do not ask that. What wehave said before to say continues to be
part of an entire network, becausethere is only one final expense, which
is occlusion or arfise, but thereare all the preparatory acts that are the
provision of at the end, thepreparation of the murder, all that plotting

(58:44):
that cannot be done without two people. We understand that he is still responsible.
Therefore, it is equally guilty whetheror not he participated. They consider
him equal to participate, but declarethat he has not been credited to the
last consequences or, at least withthe absolute certainty that he flees this moment.
That' s what he does He' s got a gale justice super.
In June of the two thousand andseventeen, the Constitutional Court did not

(59:04):
accept the amparo applications requested by thedefendants for the verdict. He did not
enter to discuss the possible motive ofthe murder, which he was also unable
to clarify the investigation, which hasgiven rise to numerous hypotheses and conjectures in
the press and social networks. Theonly solid evidence is Rosario' s psychological

(59:27):
instability, with frequent episodes of depression, stress and anxiety and the lack of
interest she had to continue taking careof her daughter. In one of those
speculations about motive, it was pointedout that Rosario was always mediocre and could
never professionally match her parents. Hewas always in his shadow. Asunta,

(59:51):
however, was a girl with highabilities and intelligence who excelled in any activity
she did. Any standard mother LLuisana would be proud of her daughter,
but a narcissistic mother like Rosario Portocould perceive her daughter as a threat and
feel jealous of her. Another scenariowas the sexual motive. After allegedly finding

(01:00:15):
erotic and pornographic material from Asian womenon the father' s laptop. Remember
the phrase that Rosario says to youin the dungeon your warm mind. It
' s gonna bring us a lotof trouble. The only way to know
the reason was for one of thetwo parents to end up confessing personally.

(01:00:39):
I was confident that Rosario, apparentlyweaker psychologically Porto, would end up telling
what led her to cowardly kill herdaughter. But she always stood firm in
her innocence. Several attempts were madeto commit suicide in prison, despite the

(01:01:01):
activation of the anti- suicide protocol. In the end, Rosario managed to
take her life on November 18,2000, hanging herself in a window with
linen cloth. He left all hisestate with valuable real estate. To a
friend of the family who visited herfrequently, Alfonso Basterra left nothing here a

(01:01:25):
harsh episode as long as the victimis a minor. Possibly, and as
the experts explained, each of theparents had motive to murder their daughter viciously
and would not have to coincide.Unfortunately, I think we' ll never

(01:01:47):
get to know that it led theirbrains to end the life of an innocent
angel. Serve this episode as ourlittle tribute to the memory of Asunta Fan
John, nothing harder than people whohave to take care of you and who

(01:02:08):
you trust blindly take your life awayfrom you. Let us hope to bring
this little bit of sand to thosewho never forget this case, as always
a pleasure to have told you.Thank you so much for sharing these minutes

(01:02:30):
with us. A very big hugto our members of the ter Grand group
and, of course, many thanksto Carmen for her work and support,
without which it would not be possiblethis podcast I place you the first Monday
of the following month, not withoutfirst reminding you that you do not forget

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