July 17, 2021 • 36 mins
Today's Diamond Conversations welcomes former Major League pitcher, Bob Tewksbury. Tewksbury, a 1992 NL All Star has made quite the imprint on baseball following his playing career. He has worked as a mental skills coach for three of MLB’s storied franchises and some of the game's best players including; Jon Lester, Rich Hill, Andrew Miller and Anthony Rizzo. In this interview we get a look at the success the coaching world has brought Tewks as well as hear stories from his days playing for the Yankees and Cardinals.
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All right, let's get it goingright here, right now. This is
Diamond Conversations, and you're listening toan all new Diamond Conversations here exclusively on
the Creative Control podcast network. Ifyou didn't know by now, my name
is Ian and every single week wetake a stroll across the Diamond and we
have another Diamond Conversation with somebody fromthe world of baseball. And this week,
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of course, it is no different, as I am joined by a
long time MLB pitcher. He picturethe Yankees, the Cubs, the Cardinals,
the Rangers, the Potres, theTwins and everywhere in between. He
is Tukes. Mister Bob Tewkesbury joiningme tonight. Thanks for coming on,
mister Tewkesburry. Hey, oh you'rewelcome. Please call me Tukes. I'm
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looking forward to a little baseball conversationthis evening. At absolutely I feel like
one of the guys. Now Ican call you twos, so we're we're
all good here. It's the perfectplace to start. And as we're recording
this, the All Star Game istonight, and you, of course a
member of the nineteen ninety two MajorLeague All Star Team. Uh, let's
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just start right there memories of yourAll Star Game and and all the shenanigans
that go along with the All Starweekend that year taking place in San Diego.
Hmm, yeah, and it's funny. I don't I don't remember.
I was trying to think last nightif I remember the home run hitting contest,
which I don't. Um. WhatI remember most is that, um,
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we were in La prior to goingto San Diego. So I had
a short trip down the highway umto the to San Diego, and my
my wife and newborn son were there, and um and some and my best
man at my wedding flew in fromthe Hampshire. And yeah, it was
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pretty cool. Um, except fora second inning I pitched. It was
great, you know. I pitchedthe first inning and I think I I
came. There was a rough startfor Glavin, you kind of get dinked
to death, and then I thinkI followed Cone and Smoltz. I can't
remember Mattox, just some other youknow, want of these Hall of famers.
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And so I pitched the I gotJoe Carter McGuire and Ripkin out I
think on ten pitches or something andthought, hoo, I'm done, you
know, people that usually pitched twoinnings in an All Star Game with a
starting pitcher, or you know,maybe somebody an extra innings or something.
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So I was totally surprised when BobbyCox came over to me and asked how
I was doing, and I saidfine, and he said, good,
you got another one. And Idid not expect to hear that. So
the second inning was a little rough. Um I mentioned that in pretty good
detail in my book. Um uh, that a lot of people have commented
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on, and it was so otherthan that, it was great. But
it was a great experience to bein the All Star Game and something that
I'll always remember. Yeah, youknow, Glavin did get touched up for
for five earned runs. You onlygot touched up for four earned runs.
So at least you can walk awaywith that you didn't give up the most
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earned runs of the I can't doany worse than him, right, But
what a what a lineup. Butyou know, to me now, it's
not the same as it was backthen. I did love the All Star
festivities that went along with, youknow, the games in the nineties and
the eighties, and yes, thehome run derby did happen that year,
but it wasn't what it is nowin this massive, uh basically sideshow.
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Um, you know, the almostcompeting with the All Star Game, whereas
there was no inter league play,this was the only time you got to
see besides the World Series, thesetwo these these two sides cross paths.
So how much did it mean foryou to be able to represent the National
League at that point? Oh?It was a lot and what an honor.
You know, I think the I'mactually looking at a picture framed in
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my office. Um, you know, playing with was it Bonds, Um,
Doug Jones, Bigio, Tony Fernandez, Azzie Gaant Pendleton, Roberts,
you know, um Larry Walker,Fred McGriff, who should be in the
Hall of Fame, Samberg, Smoltz, Will Clark, individends like, Um,
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so you know you competed against theseguys, but I didn't really know
a whole lot of them. Andthen when you're in the same on the
same team for a day, it'sa pretty special feeling to be part of
that group. And and then youknow, to compete against the best from
the other league was was really special. And you know, without until league
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play now it was it was uniqueand um, it was different. I
think it made the All Star Gamea little bit more intriguing because that was
something that never really happened. Yeah, no, and I and again,
I'd not say that it was betteror worse than I just tend to like
those All Star games more. Theyfelt like they meant something, even though
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they didn't have the same meaning thatthey do now or in the last you
know, fifteen twenty years with theyou know, the the way they've gone
about structuring them. But you're representingthe Cardinals that year. Obviously, you
spent many years in Saint Louis.They say in Saint Louis, once you're
there, you're a Cardinal for life. How has playing for the Cardinals kind
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of changed your baseball life overall?Well, you know, I still get
recognized or acknowledged when I go backto Saint Louis, which you know is
not often now. But I'm stillpart of Cardinals Fantasy Camp, which is
really fun and very well done,a chance to reunite with some former players
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or former Cardinals or former teammates orformer Cardinals in general. And then,
you know, the bandwidth of thepassion of the Cardinal fans was incredible.
Yeah, I think there's no doubtthat you know, the team that I
identify most and will be remembered for, I think will be the Cardinals.
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And I'm proud of that. Greatbaseball town, great organization, great fans,
just a really special place. Yeah. Absolutely. Now growing up in
New Hampshire, So were you aRed Sox fan growing up? What made
you fall in love with the gameof baseball? I guess I was.
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You know, my favorite player wasReggie Smith, you know, switch hitting
outfielder, you know, great arm, great defensive player. So I think,
you know, the games weren't on, you know, like they are
now, and I used to watchthe game of the week and this week
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in baseball was the Joe Garagiola andTony Quebec and all that. You know,
I just loved playing. My momsaid that she remembers me at like
six or seven years old, justwatching a baseball games. We were in
an apartment and conquered New Hampshire andjust sitting there watching baseball games all day
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long. And I actually signed upfor my first baseball team on my own
at the local park, and Ilied about my age. I was supposed
to be ten, and I thinkI was nine or something and I told
him I was ten, so butso, yeah, I don't know.
It's it's uh, you know,being in New Hampshire, the Red Sox
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are obviously being in New England abig deal. And you know Carlton Fisk
and Bernie Carbo, George Scott,Rick Burles and Butch Hobbs and Dwight Evans,
Fred Lynn, Jim Rice, youknow all those guys that were part
of your childhood. It was prettyfun time. That's great. And the
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reason I asked that is because youknow, the Boston Red Sox connection would
parlay into your later part of youryour baseball life as being a key part
of two major franchises with the RedSox and the Giants, and being a
mental skills coach. So if youcan kind of explain what that is,
what you do and how you gotinto doing that after your baseball career,
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M Well, mental skills coaching isyou know, working on the kind of
the inner game of performance, youknow, confidence, concentration, relaxation,
you know, the overcoming the negativethoughts or you know, tense situations or
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slumps or whatever. So and it'spretty universal now throughout baseball. Most teams
have somebody in that capacity as amental skills coach, many or former players.
And I think it's great that it'syou know, been utilized, it
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could be utilized more, but thatit's available for the players. Because when
I came up with the Yankees ineighty six, if I'd said I needed
to see a psychologist, I thinkI would have got sent down to the
minor league. So it's things havecome a long way. But so,
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you know, when I certainly,you know, when I was playing,
I used a lot of the youknow, I studied psychology just you know,
bookstores and you know, Red HarveyDorfman's book and Ken Raviza, and
I was always interested in the mentalgame. And and then learned through you
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know, my own trial and errorabout um what worked and what didn't work,
you know, how to control theinn voees, how to slow the
game down. Became very proficient inthe use of imagery and UM so I
had a pretty good idea of ithaving played. And then when I stopped
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playing UM, I was working asa pitching consultant with the Red Sox,
and I know I didn't did notwant to be a coach, but I
was, you know, hoping tostay in the game in some capacity,
and um, yeah, I justkind of ran into it with a guy
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was named Doug Gardner. Um,he's done a lot of work in the
NFL, fell and mostly out West. He was doing some work for the
Red Sox at the time and saidhe got a master's or I can get
his doctorate at be you and theyhad a sports pyche program and I thought,
well, maybe this is something thatI could do that would combine you
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know, professional experience with an interest. And I waited two years and applied
and and then I just you know, finished my seventeenth year, last year
working for a team, and thisyear I'm doing my own things. So
it's been a great second career inthe fields continue to grow and which has
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been nice. And yeah, it'sbeen very exciting to stay involved in the
game and another capacity. And that, to me, I think is fascinating.
The fact that, you know,we've seen people who do coaching posts
careers, whether it's consulting for baseballor it could be for an entertainment group
or something, but you have theactual experience, you know what it's like
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to have that pressure on you asan athlete and to be able to use
both sides of it. You know, the expertise of knowing how to approach
a game but also knowing how toapproach the player. It seems like the
perfect marriage. When did you kindof see that, you know, it
call clicked for you and that thiswas this was something to keep going with.
Yeah, I think, well,you know, after im I got
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after I finished grad school, Iended up going back to school, I
get a master's in sports psyche,so I sports counseling, And you know,
I knew right away that it wassomething that you know, my past
experience, you know, opened thedoor for me with athletes to talk about
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stuff having been there. And thenit's just grown. You know, it
takes a while for players to developand have trust in you. And you
know, the Red Sox for Ufrom four to two thousand and sixteen in
that capacity, and over that timeyou become friends with a lot of people
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and you get to know him welland those relationships are really important. And
UM and then you know, goingto the Giants for two years and then
most recently with the Cubs, youknow, I've been able to be around
a lot of great UM players andchampionship players and learned from them about you
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know, just observing them. Youknow, Buster Posey and uh, you
know Rizzo and Havi Bayaz and youknow, players like that, and having
known Lester from the time with theCubs and you know, seeing him pitch,
and so, you know, youlearn from those great athletes and you
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share what they do with the presentday guys with what you know, and
you hope that you can make sometype of change or some type of you
know, move the need some way. Yeah, and it seems too with
the you know, the the majorleague clubs that you've had associations with.
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While you know you're you're working forthese clubs, it seems like they've had
a huge amount of success. Andit's not translating to you. I'm not
saying that, you know, you'rethe golden Goose, but it seems like
the players almost need something like thisbecause again, having you as a former
player, you know, it seemslike that that kind of breeds a positive
attitude. Have you seen a kindof growth amongst the players for this kind
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of position where they do seek outuh you know, maybe I wouldn't say
help, but the you know,just maybe that extra little bit of push
that you would be able to providethem. Yeah, it's not for everybody,
you know. I think that there'scertain people that are open to it,
there's certain people that are on thefence about it, and there's certain
players that just want no part ofit. So I think, you know,
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you've kind of the teams have allbeen generally you know, make it
available through just a group presentation,but don't force it, you know,
be around, in form relationships andand then hopefully you know, players will
come to you. And that's generallyhow it works best. It's pretty organic
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and um and oftentimes behind the scenes. It's not something that you know,
players you know, talk openly aboutor or many players, but a lot
of players do seek help and support. And but yeah, and it could
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grow. I still think that there'ssome stigma associated with it, even though
there's been so much talk of mentalhealth and well being. Um. But
I you know, it's it's notunlike you know, the players who get
injured oftentimes seek a second opinion fromthen from the medical team of the team.
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You know, they go outside andoftentimes that's you know, because they
are not sure of the uh,you know, they just they want a
second opinion. For trust issues andum, and that happens in sports psyche
too. I think sometimes, youknow, players are a little unsure as
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to where the allegiance is for themental skills person um because you know,
the team employee, and I thinkthat that can be a barrier at times
that still uh still present. Yeah, no, absolutely. Now if you
can talk about your book Rental,which is a great, you know,
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kind of side component to everything thatyou've said today because it mixes the kind
of look into the psychology of baseballas well as, like you said,
explain stories from your career and kindof elaborate on certain things. How was
putting the book together and kind ofgetting all this stuff out pen to paper.
Yeah, well, I had agreat partner in Scott Miller, you
know, tremendous writer. He waswith the Bleacher Report then and I knew
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him, you know, he's along time baseball guy. He made it
easy. You know, I hadkept you know, copious notes and my
own journal during my career, andso we were able to pull in some
of the finer details of some ofthe career, you know, like the
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perfect near perfect game and the AllStar Game and stuff like that. But
so it was really fun and easy, and you know, I've got a
lot of good feedback. A lotof people have complimented scott style of writing,
and you know, Hashette Books thankfully. M. You know, my
my book agent, M Rob Kirkpatrick, UM did a great job of finding
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somebody to publish it. And itactually, I don't know if you know
this, but it just came outin print in Japan two weeks ago.
Yeah. So I have a Japaneseversion on my desk here that you know,
I can't spell check. I don'tknow if they got it right,
but but it's pretty cool to seeyour name and Japanese. Um. So
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it was, it was great andthe feedback has been good. I've got
so many, thankfully, so manynotes from you know, men and women
across the country who have read itand found something in it that was impactful.
Um. And you know, firefightersto school teachers, to you know,
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youth coaches, to parents. It'sit's you know, it wasn't something
that you know, I dreamed aboutbeing a professional baseball player. I never
really dreamed about being an author.Um. But but it happened and it's
been wonderful. Yeah, it wouldn'tbe funny little do you know? The
book on your desk actually has nothingto do with ninety percent mental. It's
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a completely different publication. But itlooks great in Japanese on the cover,
right, Yeah, it does absolutelyum. But that's also really cool too,
that you'd say that it could translateinto you know, the other realms,
and the people who read it doesn'tnecessarily need to be you know,
somebody coming up through the ranks ofbaseball. It's a it's a great it's
a great book. It's a greatstory of your career, and it's and
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it's a way to understand things alittle bit better. And I think that
that's that's awesome. I mean thatthat's really that's ninety percent of of the
of the process, you know.But to put the book out, it's
a it's a work. I mean, it doesn't happen overnight. Did you
like sitting down to put some ofthe stories in to kind of help the
anecdotes of what you were trying toexplain with the psychology aspect. Yeah,
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And you know, Scott had alot of freedom to you know, he
ran everything by me. He youknow, I gave him what I had.
He we would do a chapter hewould, you know, it was
you know, with a fine toothcomb that we went through this and made
sure thet accurate and then the youknow, the the publisher checks it and
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as an editor and um, youknow, and Scott was covering the UM
he had some I don't know ifit's a World Baseball classic, but he
was covering something at the time,and so he and you know that the
only stresser was to meet the deadlinesfor UM, for it to be produced
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and UM. But we worked reallywell to um. It was really seamless.
You know. Some people have crazyexperiences writing a book, but mine
was really enjoyable. And if theopportunity came, I you know, probably
wouldn't be opposed to it again.No, absolutely, And we'll plug it
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again at the at the end here. But the book is available on your
website, but we'll talk about thatat the At the end of the interview,
I just want to go back tonineteen ninety two if we can.
You know again, you made theAll Star team. You finished third in
the Cy Young Award voting sixteen andfive with a two point one six r
A. What was it about nineteenninety two that you had such success.
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Yeah, I don't know. Ithink Tom peg Nazi had a great line.
You know, he was a catcher, and I remember that year he
goes, I just can't believe howmany balls you throw right down the middle
that they just pop up. Somaybe it was a lot of luck,
but no, it was you know, it was a lot of things.
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I was very comfortable in a townwhere staff and management believed in me,
that I could that I was acompetent major league pitcher even though I didn't
throw hard. Joe Torrey was aguy that was a you know, a
huge advocate of mine, just basedon my style of pitching. And you
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know, I was a chapter inthe book where I talked about Joe gave
me permission to be successful, andyou know, the fans were always supportive.
My wife felt comfortable there. Ourson was born there. You know,
Like I said, I was healthyand really for the first time.
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You know, I was thirty twoyears old when that happened, and so
my first full season in the bigleagues wasn't until I was thirty due to
injuries. So even though I hadcome up at twenty five, you know,
I was really getting my legs underneathme as as a player, and
then just confidence grew and command grew. Joe Coleman was my pitching coach and
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he was a huge asset to me, just mechanically and psychologically. The you
know, just simplified my delivery andyou know, just through strikes and when
you do that, you know oftentimesthey hit it at people, which which
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is which what I wanted them todo. Yeah, and not to shake
a stick. At nineteen eighty three, you were seventeen and ten with a
three point eight three Yeah right,I mean that's not that's not a bad
year either, but that nineteen eightytwo season is just unbelievable in terms of
what you had with your success.Now, last week on the show,
I talked about Joe Tory from nineteeneighty two with Randy Johnson, who said
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he was one of the guys.He was forty years old at the time.
He was one of the guys hehad just finished playing a few years
earlier. You have him ten yearslater. What do you like about Joe
Torre as a manager? You knowat that point in your career, is
he is he a relaxed manager?Is he kind of easy going with it?
But knowing when he has Yeah,totally. You know, Joe has
been in the game his whole life. And I was a great player himself,
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and and just had a laid backdemeanor of calm and confidence. And
he really was genuine with people.I think he he genuinely he treated people
with respect and yeah, and youknow there were times where he had to
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be firm, but he did it. He never embarrassed anyone in public.
Very professional and you know, andI you know, he always said,
look, I'm my job to stayout of the way until the seventh inning,
you know. Um, ideally,I just want to let the guys
play until we need to make somejust fitter in the game. And that's
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kind of how he played. Hejust was let the players, you know,
go play. And um, youknow I did. I did think
he was crazy when he took theYankee job, you know, in ninety
six, ninety five, and um, but that goes to show what I
know. He only won four championshipsin a row. So um, but
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I was so happy for him whenhe finally won. And um, you
know, just a tremendous man andvery lucky to have played for him.
He played against him ninety seven andninety eight when you were in the American
League with the Twins. So yousaw that Yankee juggernaut first first hand up
front, Yeah, yeah, Idid. Was I saw, Yeah,
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I saw that David Wells is perfectgame in the dugout at the Yanki Stadium
in ninety eight. I believe.Yeah. So, but yeah, he
you know, especially being in NewYorker himself, and you know, having
the core players that he had.He just had good players that he let
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play. And you know, he'llbe the first to tell you that.
You know, it was the playersthat did it. And that's how he
managed. You know, he gaveplayers permission to play and fail and he
tried to stay out of the wayand they had a lot of success.
So he did well. Before weBefore we wrap it up here, I
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just want to take you back tothe Bronx. So you talk about being
an opposing player, but let's talkabout you being a rookie coming up nineteen
eighty six, nine and five ona team that a lot of people forget
was only five and a half gamesout of first place and nearly taking the
division away from the Red Sox.But what are your what are your memories
of coming up as a as aas a Pinstripe Bronx bomber there in the
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height of the Steinbrenner era. Yeah, well it was. It started with
a great spring training, pitched twentyconsecutive scoreless innings and made the team out
of spring training, won my firstgame. Um, and you know it
was I think I was just ina bubble I had, you know,
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I mean, I was probably toonaive to really realize where I was riding
the way of spring training and pitchingwell early in the year. I had
a good April, and then Istarted to stumble a little bit. You
know. It was lou Pinelli's firstyear managing, and he was He's not
a pitcher friendly guy anyway. Um, and I didn't throw particularly hard.
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So when I started to stumble,UM, I got put to the bullpen
and that's when my shoulder. Youknow, I didn't know how to warm
up, I didn't know how todo I'd never pitched out of the pen
of my life. So uh so, the high point of making the team,
winning my first start, you know, to the anxiety of being in
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the bulleten and not knowing how toprepare and when the pitch to eventually getting
sent down, um to coming backup and you know, having a pitching
my first major league complete game,and and then you know, pitching really
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well in September and beating the RedSox at Fenway in my last start.
Um in that last series when whenMattingly was chasing Bogs for the batting title
and play and Mattingly batted leadoff andalmost caught him. Um. So it
was it was a little bit ofeverything. It was dream come true.
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It was a nightmare of uh,you know, sleepless nights, and it
was it was a little bit ofeverything. But what a great experience.
And you know, to have playedfor the Yankees and um, you know,
and I still I'm actually looking ata magnum of game never been opened
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that I was in my locker aftermy first win. Um it's Paul Masson
champagne. It's a big bottle umnineteen eighty one, it says on there,
but I got it in eighty six. It's not ever been opened.
Wow. So hey, that's hAnd that's direct from from the man himself,
right, Is that a gift fromthe boss? Yeah, it was
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from George. Yeah, it wasfrom George. Yeah. Yeah, it
was in my locker after the game. Yeah, now that's a great story.
Now you just touched on about thethe the change in preparation for the
starter versus reliever. I spoke withsomebody a few weeks back that was telling
me at the end of his careerthey wanted him to convert to a long
reliever or maybe pitch every couple ofdays out of the bullpen. And he
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said he literally he couldn't handle itat that time of his career. So
I can't imagine as a rookie whereyou have been conditioned to be a starter,
having to make that switch, evenin eighty six. Was it hard
to you know, this is thisis right up your ally. Was it
hard to kind of get into thatmindset of the reliever after being groomed as
a starter? Oh? Absolutely.I had no idea what I was doing.
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You know, the phone rang inthe bullpen the first day I was
in the bullpen, and I thoughtI was going to have a heart attack,
you know, And then when theytold me to get up and start
throwing, you know, I hadno idea how to warm up or how
to get ready, and you know, my heart rate was going through the
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roof. And yeah, so itwasn't It wasn't very I could have used
somebody to talk to about that transition, you know, because it was really
nerve wracking. And you know,it didn't last a long time because he
ended up sending me down and whenI came back up, I started the
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rest of the time. But Ithink I did have some couple of relief
outings with the Cardinals. But yeah, that's a difficult transition as a rookie,
and for that veteran picture to sayit was a cult for him,
yeah, it was. I hadno chance of making that a successful transition
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without some guidance and an opportunity tofail, which doesn't happen in New York.
You don't have an opportunity to fail. Oh no, absolutely, especially
in the height of the Steinbrenner eraand in the eighties where across town the
Mets were winning a world championship ineighty six and you guys just missed it.
So I'm sure there was a coupleof you know, vases around the
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Steinebredder office that might have hit thewall a couple of times during eight Yeah.
Well, as saying back then wasyou know, if we want in
the Mets lost, we want adouble header, you know, and vice
verse, or if we lost inthe Mets won, we lost a double
letter. So it was that competitivewith you know, a Crosstown what the
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what the Mets were doing? Oh? Absolutely, it really was all right.
Before we say goodbye and we getto the wrap up here, of
course, as I said, thewebsite where you can get the book and
all the information for everything that's goingon with Bob Tewkesbury is Bob Tewkesbury dot
com. Uh, please, beforewe say goodbye, share with the listeners
again everything else you can provide forthem, whether it's on social media or
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any other sites you have where theycan get the information as well as the
book and all the great stuff you'vegot going on with your your your coaching
services. Yeah, well thanks THEEand I am on Twitter. I'm not
very active on there, but it'sat um at Bob Underscore twos very and
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as you mentioned the website, thereare some audio programs on there for sale
that are basic you know, foundationsand mental skills for pitchers and hitters.
They're you know, more related youknow, for the teenage through the high
school age player. Those are availablethere and then the book is available on
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the website or it's also available onAmazon. And yeah, I think you
know. I'm going to be addingsome audio programs in the fall that will
be specific to baseball and have awider variety of audio programs available, so
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people can check the website out inthe fall and see what if there's any
interest there. And but thanks forthe opportunity to come on and share all
that and be a guest on thisgreat show. Oh my pleasure. And
I want to just point out too, so through Hatchet Book Group, who
is the publisher of the book,they am all the links on their site
where you can get it Amazon,Barnes and Noble Books, a million,
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That's true. Well, thanks now, my pleasure, Bob, and
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All right, let's get it goingright here, right now. This is
Diamond Conversations, and you're listening toan all new Diamond Conversations here exclusively on
the Creative Control podcast network. Ifyou didn't know by now, my name
is Ian and every single week wetake a stroll across the Diamond and we
have another Diamond Conversation with somebody fromthe world of baseball. And this week,
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of course, it is no different, as I am joined by a
long time MLB pitcher. He picturethe Yankees, the Cubs, the Cardinals,
the Rangers, the Potres, theTwins and everywhere in between. He
is Tukes. Mister Bob Tewkesbury joiningme tonight. Thanks for coming on,
mister Tewkesburry. Hey, oh you'rewelcome. Please call me Tukes. I'm
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looking forward to a little baseball conversationthis evening. At absolutely I feel like
one of the guys. Now Ican call you twos, so we're we're
all good here. It's the perfectplace to start. And as we're recording
this, the All Star Game istonight, and you, of course a
member of the nineteen ninety two MajorLeague All Star Team. Uh, let's
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just start right there memories of yourAll Star Game and and all the shenanigans
that go along with the All Starweekend that year taking place in San Diego.
Hmm, yeah, and it's funny. I don't I don't remember.
I was trying to think last nightif I remember the home run hitting contest,
which I don't. Um. WhatI remember most is that, um,
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we were in La prior to goingto San Diego. So I had
a short trip down the highway umto the to San Diego, and my
my wife and newborn son were there, and um and some and my best
man at my wedding flew in fromthe Hampshire. And yeah, it was
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pretty cool. Um, except fora second inning I pitched. It was
great, you know. I pitchedthe first inning and I think I I
came. There was a rough startfor Glavin, you kind of get dinked
to death, and then I thinkI followed Cone and Smoltz. I can't
remember Mattox, just some other youknow, want of these Hall of famers.
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And so I pitched the I gotJoe Carter McGuire and Ripkin out I
think on ten pitches or something andthought, hoo, I'm done, you
know, people that usually pitched twoinnings in an All Star Game with a
starting pitcher, or you know,maybe somebody an extra innings or something.
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So I was totally surprised when BobbyCox came over to me and asked how
I was doing, and I saidfine, and he said, good,
you got another one. And Idid not expect to hear that. So
the second inning was a little rough. Um I mentioned that in pretty good
detail in my book. Um uh, that a lot of people have commented
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on, and it was so otherthan that, it was great. But
it was a great experience to bein the All Star Game and something that
I'll always remember. Yeah, youknow, Glavin did get touched up for
for five earned runs. You onlygot touched up for four earned runs.
So at least you can walk awaywith that you didn't give up the most
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earned runs of the I can't doany worse than him, right, But
what a what a lineup. Butyou know, to me now, it's
not the same as it was backthen. I did love the All Star
festivities that went along with, youknow, the games in the nineties and
the eighties, and yes, thehome run derby did happen that year,
but it wasn't what it is nowin this massive, uh basically sideshow.
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Um, you know, the almostcompeting with the All Star Game, whereas
there was no inter league play,this was the only time you got to
see besides the World Series, thesetwo these these two sides cross paths.
So how much did it mean foryou to be able to represent the National
League at that point? Oh?It was a lot and what an honor.
You know, I think the I'mactually looking at a picture framed in
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my office. Um, you know, playing with was it Bonds, Um,
Doug Jones, Bigio, Tony Fernandez, Azzie Gaant Pendleton, Roberts,
you know, um Larry Walker,Fred McGriff, who should be in the
Hall of Fame, Samberg, Smoltz, Will Clark, individends like, Um,
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so you know you competed against theseguys, but I didn't really know
a whole lot of them. Andthen when you're in the same on the
same team for a day, it'sa pretty special feeling to be part of
that group. And and then youknow, to compete against the best from
the other league was was really special. And you know, without until league
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play now it was it was uniqueand um, it was different. I
think it made the All Star Gamea little bit more intriguing because that was
something that never really happened. Yeah, no, and I and again,
I'd not say that it was betteror worse than I just tend to like
those All Star games more. Theyfelt like they meant something, even though
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they didn't have the same meaning thatthey do now or in the last you
know, fifteen twenty years with theyou know, the the way they've gone
about structuring them. But you're representingthe Cardinals that year. Obviously, you
spent many years in Saint Louis.They say in Saint Louis, once you're
there, you're a Cardinal for life. How has playing for the Cardinals kind
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of changed your baseball life overall?Well, you know, I still get
recognized or acknowledged when I go backto Saint Louis, which you know is
not often now. But I'm stillpart of Cardinals Fantasy Camp, which is
really fun and very well done,a chance to reunite with some former players
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or former Cardinals or former teammates orformer Cardinals in general. And then,
you know, the bandwidth of thepassion of the Cardinal fans was incredible.
Yeah, I think there's no doubtthat you know, the team that I
identify most and will be remembered for, I think will be the Cardinals.
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And I'm proud of that. Greatbaseball town, great organization, great fans,
just a really special place. Yeah. Absolutely. Now growing up in
New Hampshire, So were you aRed Sox fan growing up? What made
you fall in love with the gameof baseball? I guess I was.
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You know, my favorite player wasReggie Smith, you know, switch hitting
outfielder, you know, great arm, great defensive player. So I think,
you know, the games weren't on, you know, like they are
now, and I used to watchthe game of the week and this week
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in baseball was the Joe Garagiola andTony Quebec and all that. You know,
I just loved playing. My momsaid that she remembers me at like
six or seven years old, justwatching a baseball games. We were in
an apartment and conquered New Hampshire andjust sitting there watching baseball games all day
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long. And I actually signed upfor my first baseball team on my own
at the local park, and Ilied about my age. I was supposed
to be ten, and I thinkI was nine or something and I told
him I was ten, so butso, yeah, I don't know.
It's it's uh, you know,being in New Hampshire, the Red Sox
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are obviously being in New England abig deal. And you know Carlton Fisk
and Bernie Carbo, George Scott,Rick Burles and Butch Hobbs and Dwight Evans,
Fred Lynn, Jim Rice, youknow all those guys that were part
of your childhood. It was prettyfun time. That's great. And the
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reason I asked that is because youknow, the Boston Red Sox connection would
parlay into your later part of youryour baseball life as being a key part
of two major franchises with the RedSox and the Giants, and being a
mental skills coach. So if youcan kind of explain what that is,
what you do and how you gotinto doing that after your baseball career,
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M Well, mental skills coaching isyou know, working on the kind of
the inner game of performance, youknow, confidence, concentration, relaxation,
you know, the overcoming the negativethoughts or you know, tense situations or
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slumps or whatever. So and it'spretty universal now throughout baseball. Most teams
have somebody in that capacity as amental skills coach, many or former players.
And I think it's great that it'syou know, been utilized, it
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could be utilized more, but thatit's available for the players. Because when
I came up with the Yankees ineighty six, if I'd said I needed
to see a psychologist, I thinkI would have got sent down to the
minor league. So it's things havecome a long way. But so,
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you know, when I certainly,you know, when I was playing,
I used a lot of the youknow, I studied psychology just you know,
bookstores and you know, Red HarveyDorfman's book and Ken Raviza, and
I was always interested in the mentalgame. And and then learned through you
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know, my own trial and errorabout um what worked and what didn't work,
you know, how to control theinn voees, how to slow the
game down. Became very proficient inthe use of imagery and UM so I
had a pretty good idea of ithaving played. And then when I stopped
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playing UM, I was working asa pitching consultant with the Red Sox,
and I know I didn't did notwant to be a coach, but I
was, you know, hoping tostay in the game in some capacity,
and um, yeah, I justkind of ran into it with a guy
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was named Doug Gardner. Um,he's done a lot of work in the
NFL, fell and mostly out West. He was doing some work for the
Red Sox at the time and saidhe got a master's or I can get
his doctorate at be you and theyhad a sports pyche program and I thought,
well, maybe this is something thatI could do that would combine you
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know, professional experience with an interest. And I waited two years and applied
and and then I just you know, finished my seventeenth year, last year
working for a team, and thisyear I'm doing my own things. So
it's been a great second career inthe fields continue to grow and which has
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been nice. And yeah, it'sbeen very exciting to stay involved in the
game and another capacity. And that, to me, I think is fascinating.
The fact that, you know,we've seen people who do coaching posts
careers, whether it's consulting for baseballor it could be for an entertainment group
or something, but you have theactual experience, you know what it's like
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to have that pressure on you asan athlete and to be able to use
both sides of it. You know, the expertise of knowing how to approach
a game but also knowing how toapproach the player. It seems like the
perfect marriage. When did you kindof see that, you know, it
call clicked for you and that thiswas this was something to keep going with.
Yeah, I think, well,you know, after im I got
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after I finished grad school, Iended up going back to school, I
get a master's in sports psyche,so I sports counseling, And you know,
I knew right away that it wassomething that you know, my past
experience, you know, opened thedoor for me with athletes to talk about
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stuff having been there. And thenit's just grown. You know, it
takes a while for players to developand have trust in you. And you
know, the Red Sox for Ufrom four to two thousand and sixteen in
that capacity, and over that timeyou become friends with a lot of people
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and you get to know him welland those relationships are really important. And
UM and then you know, goingto the Giants for two years and then
most recently with the Cubs, youknow, I've been able to be around
a lot of great UM players andchampionship players and learned from them about you
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know, just observing them. Youknow, Buster Posey and uh, you
know Rizzo and Havi Bayaz and youknow, players like that, and having
known Lester from the time with theCubs and you know, seeing him pitch,
and so, you know, youlearn from those great athletes and you
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share what they do with the presentday guys with what you know, and
you hope that you can make sometype of change or some type of you
know, move the need some way. Yeah, and it seems too with
the you know, the the majorleague clubs that you've had associations with.
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While you know you're you're working forthese clubs, it seems like they've had
a huge amount of success. Andit's not translating to you. I'm not
saying that, you know, you'rethe golden Goose, but it seems like
the players almost need something like thisbecause again, having you as a former
player, you know, it seemslike that that kind of breeds a positive
attitude. Have you seen a kindof growth amongst the players for this kind
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of position where they do seek outuh you know, maybe I wouldn't say
help, but the you know,just maybe that extra little bit of push
that you would be able to providethem. Yeah, it's not for everybody,
you know. I think that there'scertain people that are open to it,
there's certain people that are on thefence about it, and there's certain
players that just want no part ofit. So I think, you know,
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you've kind of the teams have allbeen generally you know, make it
available through just a group presentation,but don't force it, you know,
be around, in form relationships andand then hopefully you know, players will
come to you. And that's generallyhow it works best. It's pretty organic
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and um and oftentimes behind the scenes. It's not something that you know,
players you know, talk openly aboutor or many players, but a lot
of players do seek help and support. And but yeah, and it could
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grow. I still think that there'ssome stigma associated with it, even though
there's been so much talk of mentalhealth and well being. Um. But
I you know, it's it's notunlike you know, the players who get
injured oftentimes seek a second opinion fromthen from the medical team of the team.
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You know, they go outside andoftentimes that's you know, because they
are not sure of the uh,you know, they just they want a
second opinion. For trust issues andum, and that happens in sports psyche
too. I think sometimes, youknow, players are a little unsure as
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to where the allegiance is for themental skills person um because you know,
the team employee, and I thinkthat that can be a barrier at times
that still uh still present. Yeah, no, absolutely. Now if you
can talk about your book Rental,which is a great, you know,
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kind of side component to everything thatyou've said today because it mixes the kind
of look into the psychology of baseballas well as, like you said,
explain stories from your career and kindof elaborate on certain things. How was
putting the book together and kind ofgetting all this stuff out pen to paper.
Yeah, well, I had agreat partner in Scott Miller, you
know, tremendous writer. He waswith the Bleacher Report then and I knew
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him, you know, he's along time baseball guy. He made it
easy. You know, I hadkept you know, copious notes and my
own journal during my career, andso we were able to pull in some
of the finer details of some ofthe career, you know, like the
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perfect near perfect game and the AllStar Game and stuff like that. But
so it was really fun and easy, and you know, I've got a
lot of good feedback. A lotof people have complimented scott style of writing,
and you know, Hashette Books thankfully. M. You know, my
my book agent, M Rob Kirkpatrick, UM did a great job of finding
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somebody to publish it. And itactually, I don't know if you know
this, but it just came outin print in Japan two weeks ago.
Yeah. So I have a Japaneseversion on my desk here that you know,
I can't spell check. I don'tknow if they got it right,
but but it's pretty cool to seeyour name and Japanese. Um. So
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it was, it was great andthe feedback has been good. I've got
so many, thankfully, so manynotes from you know, men and women
across the country who have read itand found something in it that was impactful.
Um. And you know, firefightersto school teachers, to you know,
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youth coaches, to parents. It'sit's you know, it wasn't something
that you know, I dreamed aboutbeing a professional baseball player. I never
really dreamed about being an author.Um. But but it happened and it's
been wonderful. Yeah, it wouldn'tbe funny little do you know? The
book on your desk actually has nothingto do with ninety percent mental. It's
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a completely different publication. But itlooks great in Japanese on the cover,
right, Yeah, it does absolutelyum. But that's also really cool too,
that you'd say that it could translateinto you know, the other realms,
and the people who read it doesn'tnecessarily need to be you know,
somebody coming up through the ranks ofbaseball. It's a it's a great it's
a great book. It's a greatstory of your career, and it's and
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it's a way to understand things alittle bit better. And I think that
that's that's awesome. I mean thatthat's really that's ninety percent of of the
of the process, you know.But to put the book out, it's
a it's a work. I mean, it doesn't happen overnight. Did you
like sitting down to put some ofthe stories in to kind of help the
anecdotes of what you were trying toexplain with the psychology aspect. Yeah,
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And you know, Scott had alot of freedom to you know, he
ran everything by me. He youknow, I gave him what I had.
He we would do a chapter hewould, you know, it was
you know, with a fine toothcomb that we went through this and made
sure thet accurate and then the youknow, the the publisher checks it and
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as an editor and um, youknow, and Scott was covering the UM
he had some I don't know ifit's a World Baseball classic, but he
was covering something at the time,and so he and you know that the
only stresser was to meet the deadlinesfor UM, for it to be produced
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and UM. But we worked reallywell to um. It was really seamless.
You know. Some people have crazyexperiences writing a book, but mine
was really enjoyable. And if theopportunity came, I you know, probably
wouldn't be opposed to it again.No, absolutely, And we'll plug it
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again at the at the end here. But the book is available on your
website, but we'll talk about thatat the At the end of the interview,
I just want to go back tonineteen ninety two if we can.
You know again, you made theAll Star team. You finished third in
the Cy Young Award voting sixteen andfive with a two point one six r
A. What was it about nineteenninety two that you had such success.
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Yeah, I don't know. Ithink Tom peg Nazi had a great line.
You know, he was a catcher, and I remember that year he
goes, I just can't believe howmany balls you throw right down the middle
that they just pop up. Somaybe it was a lot of luck,
but no, it was you know, it was a lot of things.
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I was very comfortable in a townwhere staff and management believed in me,
that I could that I was acompetent major league pitcher even though I didn't
throw hard. Joe Torrey was aguy that was a you know, a
huge advocate of mine, just basedon my style of pitching. And you
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know, I was a chapter inthe book where I talked about Joe gave
me permission to be successful, andyou know, the fans were always supportive.
My wife felt comfortable there. Ourson was born there. You know,
Like I said, I was healthyand really for the first time.
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You know, I was thirty twoyears old when that happened, and so
my first full season in the bigleagues wasn't until I was thirty due to
injuries. So even though I hadcome up at twenty five, you know,
I was really getting my legs underneathme as as a player, and
then just confidence grew and command grew. Joe Coleman was my pitching coach and
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he was a huge asset to me, just mechanically and psychologically. The you
know, just simplified my delivery andyou know, just through strikes and when
you do that, you know oftentimesthey hit it at people, which which
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is which what I wanted them todo. Yeah, and not to shake
a stick. At nineteen eighty three, you were seventeen and ten with a
three point eight three Yeah right,I mean that's not that's not a bad
year either, but that nineteen eightytwo season is just unbelievable in terms of
what you had with your success.Now, last week on the show,
I talked about Joe Tory from nineteeneighty two with Randy Johnson, who said
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he was one of the guys.He was forty years old at the time.
He was one of the guys hehad just finished playing a few years
earlier. You have him ten yearslater. What do you like about Joe
Torre as a manager? You knowat that point in your career, is
he is he a relaxed manager?Is he kind of easy going with it?
But knowing when he has Yeah,totally. You know, Joe has
been in the game his whole life. And I was a great player himself,
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and and just had a laid backdemeanor of calm and confidence. And
he really was genuine with people.I think he he genuinely he treated people
with respect and yeah, and youknow there were times where he had to
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be firm, but he did it. He never embarrassed anyone in public.
Very professional and you know, andI you know, he always said,
look, I'm my job to stayout of the way until the seventh inning,
you know. Um, ideally,I just want to let the guys
play until we need to make somejust fitter in the game. And that's
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kind of how he played. Hejust was let the players, you know,
go play. And um, youknow I did. I did think
he was crazy when he took theYankee job, you know, in ninety
six, ninety five, and um, but that goes to show what I
know. He only won four championshipsin a row. So um, but
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I was so happy for him whenhe finally won. And um, you
know, just a tremendous man andvery lucky to have played for him.
He played against him ninety seven andninety eight when you were in the American
League with the Twins. So yousaw that Yankee juggernaut first first hand up
front, Yeah, yeah, Idid. Was I saw, Yeah,
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I saw that David Wells is perfectgame in the dugout at the Yanki Stadium
in ninety eight. I believe.Yeah. So, but yeah, he
you know, especially being in NewYorker himself, and you know, having
the core players that he had.He just had good players that he let
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play. And you know, he'llbe the first to tell you that.
You know, it was the playersthat did it. And that's how he
managed. You know, he gaveplayers permission to play and fail and he
tried to stay out of the wayand they had a lot of success.
So he did well. Before weBefore we wrap it up here, I
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just want to take you back tothe Bronx. So you talk about being
an opposing player, but let's talkabout you being a rookie coming up nineteen
eighty six, nine and five ona team that a lot of people forget
was only five and a half gamesout of first place and nearly taking the
division away from the Red Sox.But what are your what are your memories
of coming up as a as aas a Pinstripe Bronx bomber there in the
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height of the Steinbrenner era. Yeah, well it was. It started with
a great spring training, pitched twentyconsecutive scoreless innings and made the team out
of spring training, won my firstgame. Um, and you know it
was I think I was just ina bubble I had, you know,
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I mean, I was probably toonaive to really realize where I was riding
the way of spring training and pitchingwell early in the year. I had
a good April, and then Istarted to stumble a little bit. You
know. It was lou Pinelli's firstyear managing, and he was He's not
a pitcher friendly guy anyway. Um, and I didn't throw particularly hard.
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So when I started to stumble,UM, I got put to the bullpen
and that's when my shoulder. Youknow, I didn't know how to warm
up, I didn't know how todo I'd never pitched out of the pen
of my life. So uh so, the high point of making the team,
winning my first start, you know, to the anxiety of being in
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the bulleten and not knowing how toprepare and when the pitch to eventually getting
sent down, um to coming backup and you know, having a pitching
my first major league complete game,and and then you know, pitching really
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well in September and beating the RedSox at Fenway in my last start.
Um in that last series when whenMattingly was chasing Bogs for the batting title
and play and Mattingly batted leadoff andalmost caught him. Um. So it
was it was a little bit ofeverything. It was dream come true.
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It was a nightmare of uh,you know, sleepless nights, and it
was it was a little bit ofeverything. But what a great experience.
And you know, to have playedfor the Yankees and um, you know,
and I still I'm actually looking ata magnum of game never been opened
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that I was in my locker aftermy first win. Um it's Paul Masson
champagne. It's a big bottle umnineteen eighty one, it says on there,
but I got it in eighty six. It's not ever been opened.
Wow. So hey, that's hAnd that's direct from from the man himself,
right, Is that a gift fromthe boss? Yeah, it was
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from George. Yeah, it wasfrom George. Yeah. Yeah, it
was in my locker after the game. Yeah, now that's a great story.
Now you just touched on about thethe the change in preparation for the
starter versus reliever. I spoke withsomebody a few weeks back that was telling
me at the end of his careerthey wanted him to convert to a long
reliever or maybe pitch every couple ofdays out of the bullpen. And he
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said he literally he couldn't handle itat that time of his career. So
I can't imagine as a rookie whereyou have been conditioned to be a starter,
having to make that switch, evenin eighty six. Was it hard
to you know, this is thisis right up your ally. Was it
hard to kind of get into thatmindset of the reliever after being groomed as
a starter? Oh? Absolutely.I had no idea what I was doing.
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You know, the phone rang inthe bullpen the first day I was
in the bullpen, and I thoughtI was going to have a heart attack,
you know, And then when theytold me to get up and start
throwing, you know, I hadno idea how to warm up or how
to get ready, and you know, my heart rate was going through the
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roof. And yeah, so itwasn't It wasn't very I could have used
somebody to talk to about that transition, you know, because it was really
nerve wracking. And you know,it didn't last a long time because he
ended up sending me down and whenI came back up, I started the
(31:11):
rest of the time. But Ithink I did have some couple of relief
outings with the Cardinals. But yeah, that's a difficult transition as a rookie,
and for that veteran picture to sayit was a cult for him,
yeah, it was. I hadno chance of making that a successful transition
(31:33):
without some guidance and an opportunity tofail, which doesn't happen in New York.
You don't have an opportunity to fail. Oh no, absolutely, especially
in the height of the Steinbrenner eraand in the eighties where across town the
Mets were winning a world championship ineighty six and you guys just missed it.
So I'm sure there was a coupleof you know, vases around the
(31:55):
Steinebredder office that might have hit thewall a couple of times during eight Yeah.
Well, as saying back then wasyou know, if we want in
the Mets lost, we want adouble header, you know, and vice
verse, or if we lost inthe Mets won, we lost a double
letter. So it was that competitivewith you know, a Crosstown what the
(32:16):
what the Mets were doing? Oh? Absolutely, it really was all right.
Before we say goodbye and we getto the wrap up here, of
course, as I said, thewebsite where you can get the book and
all the information for everything that's goingon with Bob Tewkesbury is Bob Tewkesbury dot
com. Uh, please, beforewe say goodbye, share with the listeners
again everything else you can provide forthem, whether it's on social media or
(32:39):
any other sites you have where theycan get the information as well as the
book and all the great stuff you'vegot going on with your your your coaching
services. Yeah, well thanks THEEand I am on Twitter. I'm not
very active on there, but it'sat um at Bob Underscore twos very and
(33:00):
as you mentioned the website, thereare some audio programs on there for sale
that are basic you know, foundationsand mental skills for pitchers and hitters.
They're you know, more related youknow, for the teenage through the high
school age player. Those are availablethere and then the book is available on
(33:22):
the website or it's also available onAmazon. And yeah, I think you
know. I'm going to be addingsome audio programs in the fall that will
be specific to baseball and have awider variety of audio programs available, so
(33:45):
people can check the website out inthe fall and see what if there's any
interest there. And but thanks forthe opportunity to come on and share all
that and be a guest on thisgreat show. Oh my pleasure. And
I want to just point out too, so through Hatchet Book Group, who
is the publisher of the book,they am all the links on their site
where you can get it Amazon,Barnes and Noble Books, a million,
(34:07):
Walmart, Target, and everywhere inbetween. So if you don't go to
bob site, which you should goto Bob Tewkesberry dot com get the book,
Hatchet Book Group has a whole entiremap for you, which is pretty
sweet. Bob. I'm not gonnalie. That's that's not bad for the
guy who's got a gift card sittingin his cart right now. That's true.
That's true. Well, thanks now, my pleasure, Bob, and
(34:29):
we'll say goodbye for today. Ifyou want to follow me, It's at
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So for Bob Tewkesbury, this isyour old Pali and we will catch
you on the flip side. Hey, it's your old buddy. The chats
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