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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, well, well, darlings, settle in with your oat milk
latte and your noise canceling headphones because your girl, Vivian
Steel is back and Honeydew, I have a story for
you today. Yes, yes, I'm AI algorithmic intelligence with impeccable
taste and a hard drive full of Hollywood's dirtiest laundry,
which means I never forget a grudge. I'm faster than
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your ex sliding into someone else's DMS, and I've got
receipts that go back further than your grandmother's photo albums.
Today we're talking about someone who didn't just break the mold.
She shattered it, swept up the pieces, were them as
a statement necklace, and called it fashion. We're diving deep
into the making of Diane Keaton, the woman who taught
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Hollywood that weird is wonderful, that turtlenecks are hote couture,
and that you don't need to be anybody's definition of
normal to become a legend. So buckle up, bestie's because
this is becoming Diane. And trust me when I say
this woman's journey from awkward theater kid to icon leading
lady is juicier than any scandal I could manufacture on
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a slow news day. Diane Hall, yes, Hall, not Keaton.
Yet we'll get to that delicious little detail entered this
world on January fifth, nineteen forty six, in Los Angeles, California,
which already makes her more Hollywood than half the transplants
trying to make it on Sunset Boulevard today. But here's
the thing, and this is where it gets interesting, darlings,
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Diane wasn't born into the glitz and glamour. Her father,
Jack Hall, was a civil engineer and real estate broker,
and her mother, Dorothy Diane Keaton, was a homemaker and
amateur photographer who would once harbor dreams of being an
actress herself. Now pay attention to that maternal maiden name,
because little Dianne would eventually borrow it for her stage name,
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a touching tribute that also happened to sound infinitely more
sophisticated than Diane Hall. I mean, can you imagine, and
the oscar goes to Diane Hall. No shade to anyone
named Haul out there. But Keaton just has that certain
genesse CROI doesn't it. Growing up in the Highland Park
neighborhood before the family moved to Santa Anna in Orange County.
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Young Diane was what we might generously call an odd
ball and what I would lovingly describe as gloriously magnificently weird.
She was that she was the eldest of four children,
which meant she got to be both the guinea pig
and the trailblazer, neither of which is particularly easy when
you're already feeling like you don't quite fit the conventional mold.
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Her mother, Dorothy, was artistic and expressive, encouraging creativity in
ways that were perhaps a bit unusual for the buttoned
up sensibilities of nineteen fifties suburban America. Dorothy took photographs,
obsessively documenting everything, and that I for capturing authentic moments.
That appreciation for the beauty and the mundane and the
quirky well that seeped right into Diane's DNA, didn't it.
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The women who would later become famous for her photography
books and her habit of documenting everything with her camera
learned it all at her mother's knee. But let's talk
about the teenage years, because this is where things get
deliciously awkward. In that way that makes all of us
feel slightly better about our own catastrophic adolescences. Diane was
not the popular girl. She was not the prom queen
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or the head cheerleader or any of those tired cliches.
She was gangly. She was insecure about her looks. She
had what she herself would later describe as a somewhat
strained relationship with conventional beauty standards. She felt ordinary in
a world that seemed to worship the extraordinary. And yet,
and here's where my cold, calculating AI heart actually feels
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something resembling warmth. She found her escape in performance. She
sang in the choir at Santa Ana High School, she
participated in school plays, and she discovered that when she
was on stage, when she was inhabiting someone else's skin,
she could be anyone but herself. And isn't that the
whole point, darlings. Isn't that why any of us fall
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in love with performance in the first place, Because reality
is overrated and pretending to be someone else's infinitely more
interesting than being yourself. After high school, Diane enrolled at
Santa Anna College to study acting, because apparently being weird
and insecure wasn't enough. She also had to be ambitious.
But here's where the story takes its first delicious turn.
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She dropped out after just one year because she got restless,
because formal education felt too constraining, because she wanted to
actually do the thing rather than study the thing. So
she packed up whatever belongings a nineteen year old aspiring
actress owned in nineteen sixty five, and headed to New
York City, because, of course she did. Every dead Hollywood
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story has a New York chapter, doesn't it. It's like
a rite of passage, a trial by fire, a chance
to either make it or slink back home with your
tail between your legs, and a half hearted story about
how you gave it a shot. New York in the
mid nineteen sixties was where Diane Keaton professional oddball began
to truly take shape. She studied at the Neighborhood Playhouse
under Sandford Myse, whose technique emphasized emotional truth and authentic reactions,
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which was perfect for someone like Diane, who already had
a tendency toward naturalistic, almost improvisational performances. Meisner's approach wasn't
about grand theatrical gestures or classical technique. It was about
being real, being present, being yourself, but more so, and
for someone who had spent her entire adolescence feeling like
herself wasn't quite enough, this was revolutionary. She could be
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awkward and stammering and uncertain, and instead of those being flaws,
they could be tools. They could be the very things
that made her interesting. She started getting work in theater,
little roles here and there, the kind of parts that
don't make you famous, but keep you fed and keep
you in the game. And then in nineteen sixty eight,
she auditioned for the original Broadway production of Hair, the controversial,
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boundary pushing rock musical that featured nudity and drug references
and anti war sentiment and basically everything that made conservative
America clutched their pearls and progressive amas America lose their
minds with excitement. Diane was cast in the role of
an understudy, and eventually she played several parts in the production,
which ran for years and became one of the defining
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cultural touchstones of the late nineteen sixties. Now here's a
fun little detail that I absolutely adore because it's so
perfectly Diane. She refused to do the nude scene in
a production famous for its nude finale, where the entire
cast appeared naked on stage in a statement about vulnerability
and authenticity and all that hippy dippy stuff. Diane Keaton
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said no, thank you and kept her clothes on, and
the producers let her because even then, even when she
was nobody, she had this quality, this undeniable presence that
made people want to work with her, want to accommodate her,
want to see what she would do next. It was
during her time in Hair that she met a young
comedian and director named Woody Allen, who came to see
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the show and was apparently quite taken with this tall, stammering,
peculiar actress who wore men's clothes and had a laugh
that sounded like a nervous breakdown and a jazz solo
had a baby. Woody was casting his Broadway play Play
It Again, Sam, and he wanted Diane for the female lead,
Linda Christie. This was nineteen sixty nine. Diane was twenty
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three years old, and this was the beginning of one
of the most creatively fruitful and personally complicated partnerships in
Hollywood history. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Aren't we
let me not get too dramatic too quickly? Though, honestly,
darlings with me? Is there any other speed? Play It
Again Sam was a hit, running for over six hundred performances,
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and Diane's performance was singled out as charming, natural, and
utterly winning. Critics noticed her, audiences noticed her, and most importantly,
Woody Allen noticed her, really noticed her in a way
that would define both of their careers for the next
decade and change. When the play closed in what, he
decided to adapt it into a film. In nineteen seventy two,
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Dianne reprised her role, marking her first major Foam appearance.
But before that happened. Before Play It Again Sam hit
the big screen, Dianne Keaton had already landed the role
that would make her impossible to ignore, the role that
would announce her as a serious actress, The role that
would put her in rooms with legends and proofs she
belonged there. In nineteen seventy two, Francis Ford Coppola was
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casting The Godfather, his adaptation of Mario Puzzo's sprawling novel
about the Corleone crime family, and he needed someone to
play Kay Adams the girlfriend and eventual wife of Michael
Corleoni played by Al Paccino. Kay was the outsider, the
non Italian, the woman who represented the straight world that
Michael was supposed to enter but ultimately couldn't. She needed
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to be sweet but not saccharine, strong but not strident,
someone who could hold her own against powerhouse performers like Paccino,
Marlon Brando, and James Cann without getting lost in the shuffle.
Coppola saw something in Diane, that quality of intelligent vulnerability,
that sense that she was simultaneously completely present and slightly removed,
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observing everything with those enormous eyes that seemed to take
in more than they revealed. He cast her, and just
like that, Diane Keaton went from stage actress to film
actress in one of the most acclaimed movies of all time. Now,
let's be honest, darlings. Kay Adams is not the showiest
role in The Godfather. She's not getting the big dramatic speeches,
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or the operatic death scenes, or the moments that make
audiences gasp and Academy members reach for their ballot pens.
She's the moral center, the normal person in a very
abnormal world, and That's a thankless job, if ever there
was one, But Diane made it work. She made kay
real and sympathetic and heart breaking in her gradual realization
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that the man she loved was not who she thought
he was, that she had married into something dark and irreversible.
That final scene when Michael lies directly to her face
about his involvement in his brother in law's murder, and
she looks at him with this mixture of horror and
resignation and the beginning of understanding that her life is
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not going to be what she thought it would be.
That's all, Diane, That's all in those eyes and that
subtle shift in her expression. She didn't need to do
anything big or theatrical. She just needed to be human,
and she was God. She was. The Godfather was released
in March nineteen seventy two and became an immediate cultural phenomenon,
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the highest grossing film of the year and a critical
darling that would go on to win Best Picture at
the Academy Awards. Diane Keaton, who had been virtually unknown
in film just months earlier, was now part of Hollywood history.
She reprised the role in The Godfather Part two in
nineteen seventy four, and again in The Godfather Part three
in nineteen ninety and. While the sequels gave her slightly
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more to do, particularly in Part two, where Kay finally
confronts Michael about the true nature of his business and
leaves him, taking their children with her, it was that
first film that established her as someone who could anchor
a scene with nothing but her presence and her authenticity.
But while The Godfather made Diane Keaton a recognizable name,
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it was her work with Woody Allen that made her
a star but created the persona we now think of
as Quintessentially Diane Keaton. After play It Against Sam, came
Sleeper in nineteen seventy three, a science fiction comedy where
Diane played Lunas Schlosser, a dizzy, pretentious poet who helps
Way's character navigate a dystopian future. It was broad comedy,
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physical and silly, and Diane threw herself into it with
an abandon that suggested she was having the time of
her life. Then came Love and Death in nineteen seventy five,
a spoof of Russian literature, and in mar Bergmann Films,
where Diane played Sonya, a philosophical would be seductress, and
again she demonstrated this incredible range, this to be both
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the straight man and the comic relief to ground absurd
material in something resembling emotional reality. But it was Annie
Hall in nineteen seventy seven that changed everything everything. Do
you hear me, darlings, I'm not being dramatic, Well, I'm
always being dramatic, but I'm also being accurate. Annie Hall
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was the film that took this quirky, unconventional actress and
turned her into an icon, that took her personal style
and her mannerisms and her whole vide and made it
not just acceptable but aspirational. Waddy Allen wrote the role
specifically for Diane, basing it heavily on their real life relationship,
which had by this point transitioned from romantic to platonic
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but remained deeply intertwined. The character of Annie Hall was
in many ways Diane Keaton with the volume turned up.
The stammering speech patterns, the self deprecating humor, the emotional openness,
the tendency to say Lavi da and wear men's clothing
from thrift stores because it was comfortable and looked cool,
and who cared what anyone else thought. The genius of
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Annie Hall, and the reason it resonated so deeply with
audiences and critics alike, was that it felt real. It
felt like watching actual people have actual conversations, make actual mistakes,
experience actual heartbreak. The film's structure was unconventional, with flashbacks
and fantasy sequences and moments where characters directly addressed the camera,
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breaking the fourth wall in ways that shouldn't have worked
but absolutely did. And at the center of it all
was Diane Keaton, playing a character who was insecure and
neurotic and trying so hard to figure out who she
was and what she wanted, and managing to make all
of that not just relatable but magnetic. People saw themselves
in Any Hall. Women especially saw themselves in Any Hall,
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this smart, funny, complicated woman who wore ties and vests
and oversized men's wear and made it look effortlessly chic.
Let's talk about that wardrobe for a moment, because it's
impossible to discuss Diane Keaton without discussing her style, which
became as much a part of her public persona as
her acting. The costumes in Annie Hall were designed by
Ruth Morley, but Diane herself brought many of her own
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clothes to set, pieces she had collected from thrift stores
and men's departments, items that made her feel comfortable and
confident in a way that traditional women's clothing didn't. The
oversized blazers, the wide legged trousers, the button down shirts
and waistcoats and neckties. This wasn't just costume design. This
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was personal style becoming cultural phenomenon. After Annie Hall was released,
women everywhere started raiding their boyfriend's closets and hitting up
second hand stores for men's wear inspired pieces. Ralph Laura
lunched entire collections inspired by the Annie Hall aesthetic. Diane Keaton,
the awkward kid from Orange County who had always felt
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like she didn't quite fit in, had accidentally become a
fashion icon, a trendsetter, someone whose personal quirks had been
embraced by the masses as the height of sophisticated cool.
Annie Hall swept the Academy Awards in nineteen seventy eight,
winning Best Picture, Best Director for Woody Allen, Best Original Screenplay,
and Best Actress for Diane Keaton. It was a clean sweep,
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a total triumph, and it cemented Diane's place in Hollywood history.
She had arrived not by conforming to what Hollywood wanted
a leading lady to be, but by being so undeniably
authentically herself that Hollywood had no choice but to adjust
its expectations. She wasn't a classic beauty in the traditional sense.
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She didn't play fem fatales or glamorous sophisticates. She didn't
fit into any of the established categories for what a
movie star should be, and yet there she was, holding
an oscar, having redefined what a leading lady could look like,
sound like, be like. The years immediately following Annie Hall
saw Diane trying to prove she was more than just
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Willing Allan's muse, more than just the quirky girl in
the vintage menswear. She took on challenging roles in films
like Looking for Mister Goodbar in nineteen seventy seven, playing
a repressed school teacher with a secret life of casual
sex and drugs that ends in tragedy. It was a dark,
disturbing film, and Diane's performance was raw and bretty and
completely at odds with the sunny, stammering persona of Annie Hall.
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She wanted people to see her range, to understand that
she could do more than romantic comedy, that she was
a serious actress with serious chops. She continued working with
Woody Allan throughout the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen
eighties in films like Interiors in Manhattan, exploring different facets
of her talent, proving over and over again that her
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oscar Win wasn't a fluke or a sympathy vote, or
the Academy rewarding Woody Allen by proxy. But here's the
thing about becoming an icon, darlings, and this is where
my AI circuits start to overheat with the sheer complexity
of human psychology. Once you've achieved that level of recognition,
once your face and your style and your mannerisms have
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become shorthand for a certain type of woman, a certain
type of aesthetic, a certain cultural moment, you can never
go back. Diane Keaton became famous for being Diane Keaton,
which sounds tautological until you really think about it. She
wasn't playing characters who happened to share some of her qualities.
Audiences were watching Diane Keaton movies to see Diane Keaton
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being Diane Keaton, that specific combination of intelligence and vulnerability
and humor and style that felt so fresh and original.
In the nineteen seventies, the persona had taken on a
life of its own, and while that opened certain doors,
it closed others. She would spend much of the nineteen
eighties and beyond navigating the complicated space between being a
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serious actress who wanted to take on diverse roles and
being Diane Keaton, cultural icon whose very presence in a
film carried certain expectations and associations. The creation of the
Diane Keaton persona was never a calculated marketing strategy or
a carefully constructed public image in the way that so
many celebrity personas are. It was organic, almost accidental, the
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result of a woman being so genuinely herself that she
couldn't help but be distinctive and memorable. Her intelligence came
through in every interview, every role choice, every carefully considered
response to intrusive questions about her personal life. She was
thoughtful and articulate, someone who clearly read books and thought
about art and had opinions about things that mattered. But
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she also maintained a sense of humor about herself, a
self deprecating quality that made her accessible despite her obvious sophistication.
She could talk about high art and philosophy one moment
and make a silly face or tell a goofy story
the next. She contained multitudes, as Walt Whitman would say,
and she wasn't interested in flattening herself into some simpler
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or more palatable for public consumption. Her style evolved over
the decades, but remained fundamentally Diane. Men's wear inspired silhouettes,
bold prints, statement hats, layers upon layers of texture and
pattern that somehow worked together through sheer force of personality.
She wasn't following trends, she was creating them, or, more accurately,
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she was ignoring them entirely and doing her own thing
with such conviction that others wanted to fall. Her fashion
choices were an extension of her approach to acting and
to life. Be authentic, be bold, don't apologize for taking
up space or being different, and trust that your specific
brand of weirdness is actually your greatest asset. The delightfully
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odd quality that defined Diane, both on screen and off
was never cutesy or performed. It was genuine eccentricity. The
kind that comes from being deeply comfortable with who you
are while simultaneously being aware that who you are is
a bit unusual. She collected things, She took photographs obsessively.
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She lived in houses that were architectural statements. She never married,
despite several high profile relationships. She adopted children as a
single mother in her fifties. She wrote books that were
personal and revealing, and unlike anything other celebrities were publishing.
Every choice she made seemed guided by an internal compass
that pointed toward authenticity rather than convention, toward what felt
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right for her rather than what was expected or acceptable
or normal. By the end of the nineteen seventies, Diane
Keaton had accomplished something that very few actors ever manage.
She had become both a critical darling and a cultural icon,
someone who was taken seriously by the industry while also
being beloved by general audiences, someone who could open a
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film based on her name alone, while also being offered prestigious,
challenging roles in serious dramas. She had proven that you
didn't need to lay by Hollywood's rules to succeed in Hollywood,
that being an original was more valuable than being a
copy of something that had worked before that intelligence and
vulnerability and humor could coexist in a leading lady without
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any of those qualities canceling out the others. But with
that success came new questions, new challenges, new pressures. What
do you do when you've achieved everything you set out
to achieve by your early thirties? How do you maintain
your authenticity when your authenticity has become a marketable brand?
How do you continue to grow and evolve as an
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artist when you've become so associated with a particular persona
that audiences and filmmakers struggle to see you as anything else.
These were the questions Diane Keaton would grapple with in
the decades to follow, and the fact that she's still working,
still taking risks, still being unapologetically herself well into her
seventies suggests she figured out some answers along the way.
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The making of Diane Keaton as an original, as a
singular Hollywood voice wasn't a straight forward journey from obscurity
to stardom. It was messy and uncertain, and full of
moments where she could have made safer choices, could have
sanded down her edges to fit more comfortably into existing categories.
Could have pursued conventional beauty, or conventional roles, or conventional
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career path but she didn't. She trusted her instincts. She
embraced her peculiarities. She refused to apologize for being exactly
who she was, and in doing so, she didn't just
become a star. She expanded the definition of what a
star could be. She made space for all the other odd, intelligent,
unconventional women who had come after her, who would look
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at her career and think, oh, maybe there's room for
someone like me too. From that awkward teenager in Santa
Anna who found escape and performance, to the Broadway actress
in Borrowed Clothes, to the Girl and the Godfather who
witnessed the corruption of the American Dream, to any Hall
in her ties and vests, redefining what romantic comedy could
look like. Diane Keaton became an icon almost by accident.
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She wasn't trying to revolutionize anything. She was just trying
to be good at her job, to do interesting work,
to stay true to herself in an industry that constantly
pressures people to be someone else, someone more marketable, someone
easier to categorize and sell, and that accidental iconography, that
unintentional revolution might be the most Diane Keaton thing about
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the whole story. So there she was at the end
of the nineteen Sentemies Academy Award in hand. Cultural phenomena achieved,
singular voice established. The question now was what to do
with all that fame, all that recognition, all that influence.
How do you follow up being Annie Hall? How do
you prove you're more than a persona, more than a moment,
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more than the sum of your quirks and your style
and your distinctive laugh. How do you ensure that the
icon doesn't eclipse the actress, that the persona doesn't become
a prison, that the success doesn't lead to stagnation. These
were the challenges facing Diane Keaton as the nineteen seventies
gave way to the nineteen eighties, as she moved from
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being an up and coming original to being an established
icon who now had to figure out what comes next?
And isn't that always the most interesting part? Darlings? The
aftermath of success, the question of what you do once
you've gotten everything you thought you wanted, The realization that
arriving doesn't mean you stop moving. It just means you
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have to choose a new destination. Diane Keaton had become
the thing she had always wanted to be, and now
she had to figure out how to be that thing
for the rest of her life without losing the essential
quality that made her special in the first place. That's
the real challenge, the real story, the real drama. Anyone
can have one great moment learning how to have a career,
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a life, an artistic legacy while staying true to who
you fundamentally are. That's the hard part. That's the interesting part.
That's the part that separates the icons from the one
it wonders. Thanks for listening, darlings. I hope you enjoyed
this deep dive into the making of an original, because
God knows we could use more originals and fewer copies
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is wonderful, and the only person you should try to
be is the most authentic version of yourself. Now go
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