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Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, Hey Chuck, how are you doing? Sir?

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Cool signed the signed my glovebox and he signed in
the car the glovebox.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
So that's pretty pretty cool indeed, So thank you so
much for joining me, gentlemen, as thank you. So I'm
excited about today's episode.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
We've got uh.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
To our toy cars joining us to talk about cool
time and a very cool channel. I'm sure you've heard
of him because he's got way more followers than we do,
and we're honored to have him on the show.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So contour, thanks for joining us on the show today.
We're glad to.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Chat some toy cars today.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
All right, awesome, So we're going to start right at
the beginning. This is where I kind of like to
start with our guests. So what is it about tiny
cars that made you go?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
This is it?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
This is the thing that I want to really throw
my enthusiasm behind and collect and create content about.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
Yes, so I could you kind of the high level first,
I mean all my life I've been very passionate about
cars and art, and you know, I've really found a
passion for the sort of intersection of art and cars.
So whether that is a real one to one scale automobile,
whether that is an RC car, a slot car, a

(05:21):
toy car. Well, fast forward to twenty nineteen, I was
working for a museum that showcased the history of building toys.
So we're talking legos, Lincoln logs, connects, rector sets, crossfire.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (05:38):
Yeah, And I want to say it was during that
time that specifically toys were just obviously really very much
on the brain, and I think just kind of organically
through that, I started looking at hot wheels. I think,
you know, obviously I've played, like most people played with
them as a kid, so my earliest memories are sitting
on the floor just racing them for our is on

(06:00):
end and started looking into them, and you know, just
with the new lens I've had with regard to art
and art history, I very much approached the hobby with
that lens and just more of a appreciator. I never
really got into sort of the you know, the engineering,

(06:21):
the motors, the working on your car. Late nights in
the garage with with your family. Just all my life,
I've been much a part of an appreciator, which is
kind of where that passion for not only toy cars
has come, but then the art history that is associated
with it.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Nice and that's kind of where the name Contour comes from,
right exactly.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
A little contour even for the logo back there.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Very clever, very cool.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
So what specific types of cars do you gravitate towards
the most being that focused on design?

Speaker 8 (06:56):
Yeah, so, I mean I really love just how autumn
of design changes throughout the decades. And I think a
byproduct of that then is how the toy car manufacturers
kind of take certain liberties. You know, if it's maybe
a hot wheels fantasy casting, that's obviously going to have
a different approach than an automobile that's already in one

(07:18):
one scale and we're shrinking it down to one sixty four.
So to answer your question, check, I think a lot
of it is just I like kind of that quirky,
odd ball stuff. I really like to kind of get
into the heads of the designers think through what is
their process, what creative liberties Cruiser, Yeah, that's quirky, it

(07:43):
is quirky for sure. So yeah, I just I really
admire just the different takes that the designers have, you know,
whether it is just shrinking down a one to one
scale down to one sixty four, or if it's as
we'll get into making a walkie talkie on from the
Matchbox hero City series. There's just a very large spectrum,

(08:04):
and I get excited to learn about that entire spectrum.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right, well we're gonna start.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
You've you've given us five categories of cars that you
want to talk about, and there there's some very interesting ones.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm going to start. I'm going to try and.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Take these in a little different order than we're sent
to me, because I'm very curious about this. I'm going
to dive right in sure, all right, hero City. Hero
City is a very interesting time in match Box.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
You hate them.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, we got a hippo car here, We got a
tractor wearing a hat.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
We got a car with a wabble iron on. It
is that a car? It's supposed to be a TV
or a phone or radio.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
No, that's it's a hat on.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, characters are famous for their hats. So anyway, so
let's dive in here. Let's crack this walnut.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
What the heck is going on with hero City.

Speaker 8 (09:12):
Yeah, so just a little bit of backstory for anybody
who doesn't know hero City. Let me go one step further. So,
Matchbox from the very beginning was always focused on realism, collectibility,
and affordability. So they wanted to make their models relatively
cheaper than their competitors at the time. This was all
the way back in nineteen fifty three. They wanted to

(09:33):
have that collectible component. They had their one through seventy
five range where they would have seventy five models cap
it off there. Then any new model that they introduced
would replace an old number and that older number would
be retired.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
And they also wanted to focus on realism.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
As we know Matchbox today in the contemporary era we're
in twenty twenty five, obviously, that has very much still
been their thing. Well in two thousand and four, I
can't you know, I can't say who in the boardroom
was making these decisions, but in that sort of early
two thousand era of specifically hero City was around two

(10:10):
thousand and four two thousand and five, Matchbox had the
interesting and thought provoking idea to go as far away
from their brand identity that they have ever done decades
leading up to this moment, which is a huge deal
for a brand. I mean, you think about branding and
you know, we talk about something as simple as Nike

(10:32):
or Coca Cola. You know, they have that specific look
and feel and tone of voice and everything, and they'll
always kind of explore different options. But you know you
would I would almost argue Hero City is the furthest
possible exploration.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I would not argue that point you could.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
Ever do with what your roots are as a brand.
So with that said, obviously this line was was pretty
poorly received, as you can imagine, again in an era
of a lot of collectors moving to more premium brands
like Mini, GT, Tarmac Works, n O sixty four, there's
certainly that modern day craving of realism and attention to detail,

(11:14):
and so me again kind of being more into more
of that quirky, oddball stuff. I'm just fascinated by the
historical side of it of how the heck did this
company think this was a smart move to do a
full one eighty to an entirely different line. I have
a lock boxer here. It's a dog armored truck just

(11:36):
the craziest colorways, kookie designs. They were obviously, you know,
trying to target the more of the kid demographic, as
cars since the beginning of time have always been marketed
towards the kids. But yeah, so really, just from a
historical component, I find it so interesting that a brand
went so far away from their core again being realism, collectibility,

(11:59):
and affordable.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
With their models.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, I agree, I mean it, you know, definitely felt
like I mean I kind of had gotten out of
collecting at that point, but then and that kind of
even drove me further away because I was like, oh, well,
I guess Matchbox is just for like little kids now,
because everything was all, you know, these trucks that looked
like hippopotamuses or dogs or whatever, and then big the

(12:24):
big action playsets and you know, the stuff that was
definitely not geared toward the collector at all. There were
still some realistic cars, there were still licensed vehicles toting
out a few, but not not that many. And it
was yeah, very interesting rebranding. And I think that's you know,
maybe it was Mattel going okay, well, you know, Hot

(12:45):
Wheels is going to be geared more towards like the
older kids, and the matchbox will be geared more towards
the you know, three to five year olds, three to
six year olds.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Somebody with an MBA and some wild ideas in their
head came into the boardroom and said, I think I
know how this is done, and uh, I understand segmentation
and audience demographics and psychographics and da da da, And
they definitely misstepped on that one.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
And it's interesting, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well and did it for years too, and it took
them a long time to come back to what we
know matchbox now, which is very few fantasy castings.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
First you got to it was related to one of
the higher ups. Somebody's I know, I know whoever it was, said,
hear me out.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
That's how it started.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was hear me out, guys, and they were everyone's like,
it's it looks like a pig.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
You have to step You got to step over the
line to know where it is. And clearly there it
is there, there, there it was there it went.

Speaker 8 (13:47):
So then what's interesting then is if if you can
recall the sort of next year opens up what some
collectors will argue is the golden one of the Golden ages,
of Matchbox running from two thousand and six to two
thousand even, where again they flipped right back.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
To their roots.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
They obviously did that exploration of Okay, we tried this. Actually,
walkie talkies on wheels is not the right move. Let's
switch back to realism. And then two thousand and six
and twenty eleven was an incredible year of realism, and
just so many incredible castings came from that era, and
you can almost argue the hero City preceding that made

(14:23):
it all the much better.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, oh for sure, that's like beating your head with
the board.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
It feels so much better when it stops.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
So what happened in twenty twelve? Why did that era
end in twenty twelve? Why didn't it keep going?

Speaker 8 (14:38):
Yeah, it's interesting, I mean the twenty ten so now
kind of twenty twelve to twenty nineteen. I think they
again got a little bit into that exploration mindset.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
They were a little all over the place.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
They have just a lot of not so much you know,
dogs on wheels, but just like weird vehicles, kind of
very unique.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
I have to think one up here. It's Orange MBX coop.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
It's called just kind of wild original stuff, but two
all over the place, And so that's twenty twelve to
eighteen twenty nineteen, and I'd say twenty nineteen, which is
right when I started my adult collecting journey. That's when
I started again just going through that more realism. Out
Ett Mark three, my favorite car, came out during that time. Again,

(15:25):
just a lot of realism. So as you can see,
the brands are obviously doing different ebbs and flows of
what they deem as, who they want to market to,
what their core demographic is. And like many companies, you try,
you fail, you succeed, and everything in between.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
All right, well, look at you setting us up so
well for the next slide. Great transition to out e
t TT. So tell us why this is your favorite casting,
or at least the casting it seems you talk about
the most.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Definitely.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Yeah, So, I mean, I guess I'll start with and
I kind of alluded to this at the beginning of
the of the stream here, but when I was growing up,
I didn't really grow up in a car family.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
So again, you know, I didn't have you know, my.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
Dad thought cars were interesting, and we obviously all in
America at least very much rely on cars. But I
didn't grow up, you know, going to car shows or
late nights in the garage trying to you know, weld
something or work on a specific part on your car.
That just wasn't really my upbringing, and so what I

(16:29):
really had to go off of was just looking out
the window and looking at cars, you know, when my
parents would drive me places to school, to the mall,
if it was on the weekend. I just was enamored
by all the different designs, the different silhouettes of these cars.
And what really pulled me in was sort of that

(16:50):
late nineties early two thousand styling where we see kind
of the front ends and the rear ends getting a
little bit more rounded. You can juxtapose that to your
kind of I kind of eighties cars like the Audi Quattro,
very boxy, very angular. You had the Kuntash coming out
in late seventies wedge shapes as well. So but you know,

(17:11):
again during my upbringing in the early two thousands, that
sort of rounded shape is just what I became enamored with.
So my top two favorite cars my entire life have
been the Nissan three fifties and very like rounded roundin
Yep and eclips Is another good example of that era.
And then Audi TT has just been I'm obsessed with

(17:34):
this car. I just think it looks perfect. It was
futuristic for its time. It won design awards, and again
it's just cool to see how automotive history, in addition
to toy car history changes over time. I like to
kind of think, you know, post war, post World War Two,
there was a lot of optimism. They used chrome, there
was the jet age, they were inspired by space. There

(17:56):
were tail fins and after kind of esthetics sob and
airplanes and exactly, yeah, super and airplanes. You get into
the sixties and seventies a lot more muscle cars, sort
of low slung, wide stances. Eighties is boxy than nineties.
Into early two thousands, you get more of that rounded shape.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Time out, time out, contour. I want to know, and
this is a selfish question, talk about rounded car. You
talk about rounded cars being you know in Inaffectionate Tones
nineteen ninety three, Saturn sl first. Gosh, just from a
from a design standpoint, So.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
I actually drove a Saturn. It was one of my
first cars I ever drove.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
I knew it, I could feel it right here.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
And then when did you drive the following week after
it fell apart underneath you.

Speaker 8 (18:48):
So on the Civic pretty good on that particular generation.
But yeah, Saturday, I mean Saturn had a very what
did you do?

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Which model? Was it? The Saturn? Something? I think S
series or something. Are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (19:04):
I don't know the Saturn, Like I'm just trying to sell. Yeah,
I don't want to continue this very long, but I'm
just curious.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
This is the most this is the most Saturn talk
we've had quite a while.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
So I went.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I once had the option to buy either a ninety
eight Honda Accord or a two thousand and one Saturn.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I can't remember which one it was, but it was
the Ford or no.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
It was the it was a It was the car,
and the the Honda was one thousand dollars more, and
I went with the Honda.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
And then even though.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
My parents were like, well but the Saturn is really
really cheap, and I was like yeah, and they're like,
it's being sold by our friends and they maintained it
really well. And I was like, okay, but I'm going
to buy the one from my mechanic instead, and uh, a.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Week after we bought it, they were like a week
after we bought it. They were like, yeah, they were
driving the Saturn and the engine blew up.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
Oh no, yeah, not a bullet there.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
That's all.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yeah, so's happened before. Yeah, alright, but we digress content.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, all right, now that David's fully listen to Saturn time.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
I mean right, kind of walked me right into it.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
So try to talk about some cars that you can't
walk into because they don't exist, or do they? The
NFT series from Hot Wheels exists, all right, contour what's
going on with the NFT series?

Speaker 8 (20:34):
So I feel like I feel like they're getting a
little bit of a bad reputation. I totally get as
diehard collectors, we want that tactile experience. We want something tangible.
We want to be able to stick something up on
our displays. N if He's really took off around twenty
twenty one. I don't know if any of you can recall,
but people sold an NFT that went over like I

(20:56):
think eighty million dollars or something crazy like that, and
that kind of really opened the flood eight in terms
of this just new way of collecting. So I'm not
here to convince you to start collecting NFT, but I
just want to kind of go over a brief explanation
of what NFT really is. There's also just not a
huge education on the on the matter. Again, whether or

(21:16):
not you actually want to collect it, that's up to you.
They are quite rare pieces, the actual physical redeemables. But
so what I like to say is not feeling them. Yeah,
what I like to say is, first we need to
understand what fungible means. And so going backtrack, NFT stands
for non fungible token. Within specific transactions, it's either fungible

(21:40):
or non fungible. So let's first understand what fungible is.
Fungible basically means I'll do two different examples, one more
toy car related and one just.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Cash pretty much.

Speaker 8 (21:50):
So fungible would be if I hand David a twenty
dollars bill and he gives me a twenty dollars bill
or two tens or four five dollar bills, that's a
they're e're of equal value. It's a it's an equal transaction.
The same way if I give Mark a Tesla cyber
nameline and he gave me the same one back, but

(22:13):
it's in a different packaging. That would still be fungible.
It's an equal transaction. Well, NFT or non fungible is
when the two items are non fungible or they do
not equal the same value. So a good example would
be if I made a custom and tried to trade
it with Chuck with his custom, Well, Chuck's custom, it's

(22:35):
hard to put a value on it because it's his experience,
it's the materials he used, it's the overall art direction
that he went with.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Same with my customer cut himself, he cried when in tears.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Exactly, I did want to put myself at a hospital
with one, and.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
So the same with for my custom. I don't do customs.
I'm very much a appreciator, as I said earlier in the call.
But but you can't put a value on that. Therefore
it's not an equal trade or transaction. Essentially, so NFTs
in the hot wheel space, each hot wheel NFT is
one of a kind and the ownership can be.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Tracked on the blockchain.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
I will not go into further details with that because
it gets very complex, but essentially what that means is
every single hot wheels NFT is.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
One of a kind.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
It can't be easily interchangeable because it's not of equal
value to other items. It's one of a kind and
has unique ownership. What that also means is there can't
really be any plagiarism because everything is stored on the blockchain.
So think of if somebody stole a Picasso painting and
try to sell it. You know, you can track all
that in the blockchain. So hot wheels NFTs while the

(23:46):
actual virtual ones. Who knows what's going to happen. It
could maybe be the very thing that hot wheel collectors
are obsessed with. In twenty years, it could die a
very slow death. It's too early to tell, but I
would say just the most fascinating part of it is
just the fact that it is that one of a kind.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
It is quite there and obviously very hard to obtain.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
The the physical redeemables. So I do have two examples here.
This one is a Risto rat from a series to
a little over twelve hundred made so pretty limited. And
I have this one almost it's like a jewelry. This
one a Lincoln Continental with Spectro flame root Beer Love.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Sixty eight.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
So I had a heck of an RLC Continental.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, yeah, George, Yeah, the opening doors it looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that thing is gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
So all right, well, so one thing I don't get
so like, there's the NFT, So you get the car,
you get a physical car, but there's like a digital
trading card that comes with it kind of.

Speaker 8 (24:51):
Thing, the actual redeemable like the physical car, it doesn't
really show the ownership and it's not really correlated to
the actual NFT. It's just the byproduct of the sense
of scoring a virtual version of it through metel creations.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Gotcha, Okay, okay, cool, So you're getting more than the car, Yeah, exactly,
because I think, listen, I'm not one hundred percent on
all this, but I know there's a lot of collectors
that think the hot Wheel's NFT is literally the car
that you get in the blister.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Yeah, so that's just the redeemable. The actual NFT is
again stored in the blockchain, which is just a fancy
sort of virtual storage solution, is the best way I
can describe it. And those are the actual non fungible tokens.
They are one of the kind. They are not easily interchangeable,
and receiving the redeemable physical cars as just a byproduct
of owning those NFTs.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Okay, real quick, why in the world do we have
Hot Wheels doing NFTs.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
Hot Wheels since twenty twenty, has been going through quite
a phase of trying to enter into the contemporary art world.
Through the collaboration with Gucci that they did, through the
collaboration Daniel Arsham that they did, They're very much trying
to transcend and progress past just being a toy car brand.
I think the last half of this decade especially, we're

(26:16):
going to see a bunch more collaborations with contemporary artists,
maybe a graffiti artist down the road, maybe a culture.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, I was gonna say, what do you think of
the Mischief Car collab?

Speaker 6 (26:29):
I think it was great. I mean that's the thing
with these different brands.

Speaker 8 (26:32):
And we're actually going to get to another example with
the with the blazon turbos I sent you guys. But
that brings up a really good point of just when
when two brands are able to collaborate with one another,
that just opens up so much opportunity to blend these
unique styles, and in this case Hot Wheels with their
just wild creativeness that they are very much known for,

(26:54):
they always inject personality into their models. They are now
sort of molding that with Mischief's style and brand identity
and tone of voice. So I think it was a
great collaboration.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, that was a really polarizing one.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Look out for the hot Wheels Banksy.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Yeah we know where it is. It'll like disappear. Yeah,
it just shows up in Target one day. That'd be cool.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
All right, Well, you've already hinted at it, so let's
jump right into these ones, which I hadn't even heard of.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I don't know how I missed these, but I mean
I never know. Yeah, from the future, what the heck
is a blazing term future?

Speaker 8 (27:35):
So well, first off, shout out to level M Diecast.
He does a lot of matchbox videos on YouTube. I
purchased the Blue Water actually traded it with him at
the matchbox gathering in Albuquerque last year. I had never
heard of it, like you Chuck as well. But again
I like that sort of odd ball, quirky, you don't
see this every day type of stuff, And blue car

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was in his in one of his at one of
his tables, and so I saw that. One realize there's
an entire four car set, and of course needed to
complete the set as a as a crazy collectors like
to do. But kind of just piggybacking of what we
were initially talking about. The Blazing Turbos is just another
great example of of different brands and in this case

(28:19):
an artists doing a collaboration to mold those different styles together.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
So blazing Turbos, which I do have one.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
In the original packaging, I was going to show very
eighties packaging as well, the kind of grid up here.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
In the packaging match fond what year was?

Speaker 8 (28:39):
I mean, I'm sure you're gonna tell us, but in
the eighties, eight eighties, Dix, I think.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yeah, okay, I kind of like those things. Yeah, they're
they're fun. They're fun.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
So but so this collaboration was between Matchbox, who at
the time was owned by Universal, which was a Chinese
based company. They partnered with Takara. As some of you know,
Takara produces Tonka, a Japanese brand, and they collaborated with
a German designer named Kolani. So let me just summarize

(29:13):
everything I just said. These four cars are the collaboration
of a Japanese brand with a British brand but currently
owned by a Chinese company with a German designer. So
just it's crazy to me to see three bunch these
come together and make something as cool and quirky and
awesome looking as that.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
That's those are pretty sweet. Are those things?

Speaker 7 (29:38):
What's the as you know, I say weighty? David says
half like, what's the what's the weiter? Half like, definitely
not a lot of half time, That's what I figured.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
Probably, if not the same weight as like a plastic
on plastic hot wheel, probably even a little bit less
weight than a plastic on plastic hot wheel.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
So they're essentially the float if you don't hold them down. Yeah,
pretty much ground definitely nice.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, those actually they were many. I saw one of
your videos recently, one of your posts. You got some
really interesting ones from I think it was from Takara,
these little tuned vehicles.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Third and row.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Yeah, yeah, so those are interesting. Those are something we'll
we'll have to talk about it later.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Those were they the.

Speaker 8 (30:22):
Yeah, there's a more modern version tiny cue that. I
don't really know what the dealers with that company, they
don't they're not really prolific. I've seen them maybe release
like two models a year in the last few years.
But chorro Q was kind of really popping into eighties
to like early two thousands, and I particularly really like
the wheels that really shiny wheels, beautiful paint on there

(30:44):
as well, similar to shout out to Big Lou with
the cartoon cars coming out as a similar vibe to that.
So yeah, just fun tune style but still really tasteful
as well in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, I agreed.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
All right, we got one more, and this one is
one that we all know and we all love somewhere
than others.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
But let's talk ye who.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Doesn't like a super fans I have the one on
the right, I believe. Nice.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Nice, Yeah, it's it's toasted, it's been, it's been ran
through the track.

Speaker 8 (31:18):
Was a very popular There's supposed to be a motor
behind the driver there, it's it's it's definitely missing out.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Mine's way worse than that.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
You can actually see what color it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So super Fast is a really interesting history, but I
won't step all over that.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Let you lay that one out, Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (31:38):
Mean, super Fast was the response to what some would
say is the very year that turned the entire toy
industry on its head, or toy car industry on its head,
which would be the release of the Sweet sixteen Hot
Wheels from nineteen sixty eight. Hot Wheels engineered their cars
to have low frictions with gorgeous shiny spectra flame paint,

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and there was just nothing else like it on the market.
Several decades before the nineteen sixties, brands such as Matchbox,
Dinky Corgi, again, they really focused more on that realism.
Sort of playability wasn't really top of mind for them.
They wanted something that was accurately representing a car and

(32:25):
ultimately just looked really great on a display case or
just kind of roll it around a little bit. The
Hot Wheels comes out with these low friction wheels. Now
instead of rolling this much, it can roll across my
entire desk. And the toy car industry has changed forever,
so much so that we then we then introduced super
Fast out of Matchbox, and Matchbox literally needed to change

(32:50):
how they engineered their cars because of this revolutionary idea
that Hot Wheels did, and like we were saying earlier
with Hero City, this was again kind of like that
another first time that Matchbox said, hey, we need to
pivot or we're gonna go bankrupt, and actually, sure enough,
by nineteen eighty two, Lesnie, who was their first owner,

(33:11):
did indeed go bankrupt. So it's just crazy how Hot
Wheels kind of overnight or within the span of a
year just entirely turns the toy car industry on its head.
And now all these other brands are needing to play
catch up and start producing the super fast models. And
they also did get a little bit more quirky as

(33:31):
you can see with this team matchbox. It obviously resembles
an f one car, but a little bit more liberties,
not as you know, true accurate realism that they had
been known for for you know, over a decade at
this point, I also have a regular Wheels era that
I wanted to show.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
It's in the original matchbox packaging.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
So this was the wheel that they had before Hot
Wheels had to essentially come in and screw everything up.
So this is the iron Fairy Crane and a lot
more simple souls wheels on there.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
As you can.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Yeah, it's almost like a wooden car, like a little
wooden car or something or just yeah, kind of like
stubby tires almost too yea. And then they had to
replace that with these super fast wheels, which obviously became
those low friction wheels that hot feels was just totally
crushing it with. So again, just a really unique part
of toy car history, and and a nod to sometimes

(34:26):
brands who are first to market aren't necessarily always the
ones that come out on top. They need to have
that that that being agile to to be able to
keep up with the demand and whatnot.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Gotcha, Ye, yes, no, I think that's uh. I I
hate how old I was when I finally figured out
the really crazy thing about these the really fast cars
is that lip, that little rim on the wheels. Because
you think about super fast and you always think really

(35:00):
wide tires, but what's really hitting the ground is that
little tiny ridge. And it's because of that that it
has low friction. Because on a car that's powered, you
want wide tires for extra traction, but on a car
that's free wheeling, you want as little contact with the
ground as possible for lack of friction.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
And that and that chuck is why my son's Pinewood
Derby car was slaughtered by all the dads who had
been in their years before.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Me because you didn't shave the wheels.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I did not shave it. I didn't put graph height
and I didn't put it at an angle.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh dude, dude, no graph height.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Not I'm not I'm not mad. I'm not mad at him,
and I've let it go. Anyhow, let's continue.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Yeah, lead in the front.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I've got a solid ten minute rant about Pinewood Derby.
But that's not what the show is called, because it's.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Not Pinewood Derby Breakdown.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But anyway, it is called Diecast Breakdown. It is also
occasionally a game show. H oh, all right, David, what
are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Welcome everybody. This is die Cast Jeopardy. I'm your host,
David Johns and Johnny if you could check the music
down A all right, gentlemen, because I am a mean,

(36:34):
mean guy. I'm gonna tell you we have five questions.
I'm gonna pick the I'm gonna get rich, I'm gonna
pick the values. We're gonna go in order. I don't
want to overwork Chuck who who? By the way, he
has the.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Answer, so I can't play.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
So oh, so this is gonna be between Mark and contour.
We're gonna play some die Cast Jeopardy contour. Uh, here's
that's what's going to happen. I am going to show
a question and I need you to beat Mark with
the name of the correct casting. These are all going

(37:12):
to be hot wheels castings, all very popular castings. If
you need help from the audience, we can have people
chime in. Friend, you can, So let's start with one
hundred dollars. Gentlemen, here is your clue. This Ira Guildford

(37:33):
design from nineteen sixty nine became the most valuable hot
wheels ever.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Do we just say the answer if.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know it?

Speaker 5 (37:42):
No? Actually, actually, gentlemen, what I need I need you
to buzz in by going.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah. We should have discussed the rules beforehand.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
I think contour has buzzed in. Contour. What's your guess
the most valuable hot wheels casting ever?

Speaker 6 (38:03):
What is beach bomb?

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (38:07):
So easy?

Speaker 5 (38:08):
All right, Mark, I need you to rally get it together.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Well, you didn't buzz in. You gotta buzz in?

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Well, you know what rules weren't explained to me?

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Very well, David, we've bought. Jeopardy has been running for
forty years.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
I'm gonna go to Bruce's house and go you.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Know, Bruce Pascal. Of course, the owner, former guest of
die Cast Breakdown.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
I'm going to race that down the track.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Former guest of award winning die Cast Breakdown.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Thank Youwhere twenty twenty four Content Creators of the Year. Okay,
two hundred dollars, gentlemen, I'm going to pose to you
the following This Larry would casting might just be his
most was that?

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Mark? Yeah, all right? The bone shaker?

Speaker 5 (38:55):
I don't know, is it?

Speaker 6 (38:57):
What is the bone shaker?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh? You all? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Please please phrase your answer in the form of a question, gentlemen. Yes,
and the another former guest of the show, Larry Wood
and his world famous bone checker. Let's go for three
hundred dollars. Mark has two hundred. Contour has won three dollars, gentleman.
This Brendan ve Tusky casting.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
You got it?

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Contour jumping in all right, which is one of the
castings off of a vehicle that he actually owns.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
What is fifty five Chevy Gasser?

Speaker 5 (39:38):
That's correct?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Pull up? Pull it up?

Speaker 5 (39:41):
I think what are we What is the actual name
the bel Air Gasser?

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Yeah, something like Chebby Beller Gasser.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
There you go, you know, yeah, but it's not called that.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
It's called like the fifty five gaser like that is
the the actual car is called that.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
But yeah, the casting itself, I think it's.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Just Contour is now in the lead with three hundred dollars.
All right, gentlemen, four hundred dollars on the line. I
know you guys are getting nervous, but.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, for here you are clear ahead.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
All we give that the late Rusda design, this quirky
casting in twenty eighteen, and I'm gonna show you the ope.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
We're gonna show the car.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Uh yeah, you have to name the car because he
made a lot of yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Well let him you know, he buzzed.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
In little okay, well, Contour, you know by the rule
you have, you have buzzed in. What is your answer, sir.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
I'm between a couple now I'm gonna go what is
manga tuner? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Alright?

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Sorry, all right, Mark, you have no pressure. Here's your picture.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Okay, I hate you. I have to scroll around so
much to get that.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
That's why I said we're doing them in order. Please
name this car in the form of.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
A question, what is the City Turbo? I?

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I really wish I could give you credit for that.
What is the Honda City Turbo two?

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Okay, Turbo two. Okay, you know clus not all right?

Speaker 5 (41:16):
It's all listen, gentlemen, it's all on the line. Five
hundred dollars. I don't know how many NFTs you could
buy with this, but here is your last possibly none,
probably none, all right, this June of my casting one
Lambley Car of the Year in twenty twelve. Who guessed it?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That? Mark?

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Yeah, I'm just I know what.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
I've got a picture in my mind of just like
trying to it's a it's a Boco Boco car trying to.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Yeah, Bozo zuku or whatever car. But I don't know
that that's.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
I think I think contours all over it. Alright, what's
your answer?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Mark?

Speaker 6 (42:02):
That's all I got. I can't name the exact name
of it.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
I know what it is, all right, show show, the show,
the car contour? What what is the name of this casting?

Speaker 6 (42:21):
What is mad manga?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Got it?

Speaker 5 (42:24):
There is your winner, ladies and gentlemen, the first ever
die cast Jeopardy Champion Contour Toy Cars. Well, all right, hey, Mark,
you put up a valiant fight.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
Yeah. Hey, I knew most of the answers, I just
don't know what to call them. So next time, words
are hard. I get words are tough for me.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Well that was funny because he said the tuner and
I was like, is that the one that's coming up?
And then I was like, no, it's the other one.
But yeah, he's always living invertible almost called.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
The manga tuner. I believe, was it not? Well?

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Thank hey, thank you for indulging my nonsense. I knew, listen,
I knew Contour is going to know these castings. Look,
let's let's just uh, let's take let's take it down
a notch. Gentlemen. Hey, I I learned a lot today
in your channel. We have got to get people. If
you do not currently follow Contour Toy Cars, you have

(43:27):
got to go check it on all the platforms. This
guy knows castings like nobody's business. It has just been
an absolute pleasure to have you here. And we're not
done yet. But I'm just saying that because I'm thinking it.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
So I appreciate that, David, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
You got it. You got it man. So I don't
know what we do now, guys.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Well, we thank our guests, we thank the people who
have joined us. I am going to give a quick
shout out and correction because uh, yeah, I don't know
where my head has been lately. But Jay Goldenberg has
been a patron for a while and I saw him
in the chat and I apologize for not putting you
on our list of patrons. We will get that remedied

(44:09):
right away.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, I know, right, and a little bit bigger font
you know, maybe, yeah, a little special. It will be
the J. A. Goldenberg for since die casts breakdown, uh,
you know, full full title sponsor. But yeah, I am.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
I am curious contour since you talked about the different
decades and you kind of described the design elements for that,
you know that kind of or the hallmarket each decade,
what's your favorite? What do you think when when were
the most beautiful chorus made?

Speaker 6 (44:42):
Ah, don't do that to me. I do done, damage
has done well.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
It's obviously so subjective, but well, yeah, I'm gonna go.
I gotta go when I when I was growing up,
which it's not gonna be a like solid decade, but
I'd say nineteen ninety five to two thousand and five just.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
That era of good years. Those are good years.

Speaker 8 (45:11):
The Volkswagen New Beetle came out quite controversial, but again
rounded as I like, out of t tniss on three
fifty se Mitsubishi clicks concept just you.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Know, old choice, you've got a contrent. You've got to
love the Bugatti. You've gotta love that car, that he's clean.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
Yeah, I've still never seen one in person, actually the
full one one scale.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
Oh really, Yeah, I've seen at least one, and an
LFA was next to it. They were kind of the
LFA was traveling around the US, and I got so
I got to see one of those too in person,
and then they the police let them rip down the
street and that was LFA sounded ten times better than Bugatti,
though even nothing that sounds better than sure.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
But yeah, not too many Bugattis out there. You don't
see those too often.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Hey, David, we got a question. Have you heard of
racing wheels? Diecast? I'm trying to figure out how old
this for are he is?

Speaker 5 (46:01):
If that's if I'm the David in question, then yes
I have heard of them. Charles, I don't.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Know how to.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
If you want to email a picture to diecasts breakdown
at gmail dot com, I will get on it. We'll
put the research department to work.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah, I was just thinking to see if he was
talking to other David. But I don't see other David
in here.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Now there is one at elevation diycas Racing, is there
is there.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Is a Hey, other David. I think they might be
talking to each other.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
No one would ask David John's question.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
All right, so hey, listen, I'm going to say that
the most beautiful cars were made in the sixties, all
of those European roadsters. I'll take any one of them, like,
I challenge you to find an ugly one that you wouldn't,
you know, pop the top and drive down the road in.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah, sixty, like sixty seven is a really good year.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, like a sixty to.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Chevelle's to whatever. I mean, it was just like the
mid to late sixties.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
Yeah, they don't make them like that anymore, which is
they were death traps, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
But well, and I think I was just gonna say,
I think too everybody is attracted to the cars that
they grew up with, like the cars that they wanted
to drive but didn't necessarily get to, which is why
people like me are obsessed over the very angular cars
of the you know, nineteen eighties, the you know when

(47:34):
a Christis Conquest came out for AutoWorld.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I was just like so bad, you know, like the.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Weird eighties mix of technology and still being pretty analog
and yeah, like that.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
Like the boxes of any sorts like panel vans, and.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
I don't really own like I own a car from
the sixties. I've had a truck from the seventies. I've
owned several eighties vehicles and I loved them, you know,
but when it comes to collecting, those are the ones
that I'm really drawn to are the nineteen eighties, nineteen
seventies Malaise era type.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Stuff because those were the cars that I saw growing
up as a kid. So yeah, I think I think.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
That's the you know, the subjectivity of it all. But
you know, Jay Goldermerks's I'll take sixty four to seventy
four American muscle cars. But that's when I got into cars,
So yeah, see exactly the stuff that you grew up with,
and you know, and again in sixty four to seventy
four is a very unique time for car design in general.
That was really when we kind of entered the modern era.

(48:41):
We got rid of generators and replaced them with alternators,
we got seatbelt standard, we got you know, more the
configuration of modern vehicles as we know them today really
kind of you know, sixty four is when it really
kind of took that leap out of the tail fins
and into the you know, more modern.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Era of stuff.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
So I think that's a very interesting time in automotive history.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
They all have their their you know, pros and cons.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
I think it's it's really interesting because usually we don't
have somebody as young as Contour is who has the
appreciation for these cars of an era where I would
kind of was like, well, yeah, they just all kind
of looked like jellybeans or something. You know, Yeah, they
all kind of have the you know the like you know,

(49:29):
you show me a three fifty Z and you show
me a to forty Z, and I'm going to pick
the two forty Z every time.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
But you know that's just my personal preference. But you know,
if you.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Grew up really appreciating that, you know, modern ish that
what is that called like aero futura or something like that.
The design style of that time, the late nineties early
two thousands, that everything was very round, and there were
translucent and things and see through stuff and lots of

(50:03):
you know the windows. Xp Yeah, exactly, very very looking
to the future, very contemporary type stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
There was. There was not a lot of nostalgia in
that era of design, so.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
You know, which is fine. Like I think that you know,
that kind of comes and goes. I think we're in
a very interesting design time now, especially when it comes
to trucks. Like trucks now, they all just like the
front of them look like office buildings to me, like
they don't.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, they look like they don't have any character anymore.
That's my opinion as an old man. You know, they don't,
you know.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
It just looks like like boxes. Like there's just like okay,
like we're just rows of things. And then some LEDs
that do lines and different different stuff.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
But I detail these things all the time.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
I just did like three trucks in the last week,
and it's just like what am I working on right now?
Like it just it was a ram or a I
did Adnali truck, and then the other one was like
just a a regular silver auto and they all felt
the same from the grill to the interior. Like it
was just really it's disheartening. I'd like to see some

(51:21):
you know, some design comeback, you know, like some style
where you can go, that's a Dodge, that's a Chevy,
that's a Ford. I mean back then, with like the
especially in the fifties and stuff like that, you could
just easily say what that is, you know, because it
was so much different than a Dodge than a you know,
a Ford.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Let's go around mark, Mark, what is what is your
the most beautiful car ever designed?

Speaker 6 (51:46):
The most beautiful car ever design?

Speaker 5 (51:48):
I ask everybody.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
That's a tough question, but I'm going to probably say,
like this, like a sixty sixty seven Ferrari.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
Gto ooh, that's a solid, solid choice.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
But I don't know, you know, it's either you know
that or they did the Daytona.

Speaker 9 (52:08):
But there's similar looking cars, you know, contour, What was
the question? Just favorite car, most beautiful, most ever designed?
Or brutalfal?

Speaker 6 (52:19):
Yeah, don't pick a pet cruiser like that's what David's
gonna pick.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Cabriolet.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
I'll give you two answers.

Speaker 8 (52:29):
One is kind of cookie cutter, subjective audi TT I
think it's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, again subjective, but then more
I guess not cookie cutter because I do see some
truth in it. But the E type I think is
just oh, yeah, yeah, good answer to work of artist.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Basically, you're getting some good, good answers in the chat.
Uh something that window that's a good one ready, that's yeah,
right there, thirty one Duesenberg. That's a good looking car.
Seventy to seventy three trans Am, great choice. Lamborghini Mira
than the four gtwos, those are nice, Stay Raggas really nice.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Rudy's little profile he changed.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
It gross.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Sixty three suburban with a drop down door in the rear.
Getting some very interesting choices in the chat. Uh, Jay
Goldenberg's seventy plumouth superb for twenty six HEMMI the forty
forty Yeah, Lamborghini Mira portion nine oh four or Ferrari
do you know.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
Yeah, it's a tough question, David, I hate you for
asking that.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
You're welcome.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
No, I would answers.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I would say, if I had to pick just one,
I like, I think that the nineteen sixty seven Toyota
two thousand GT is one of the best looking cars
ever ever designed.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
Yeah, I agree, that's another one that would pick.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I think it's an x k E that they just
improved on and.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
Well they ripped people off for sure.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I mean they absolutely were. It's absolutely a ripoff of
the of the E type Jag.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
And the mirror, but although I think the mirror came
out that year or the year after, but it's it's
it's very much a Ferrari slash Jag ripoff.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, but I don't care.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Like, the thing is incredible and it's got those really
wild pop up headlights and then the built in driving
lights covered with glass.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I think that's a really really cool design.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Yeah, which is a very against type pick for me, because.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Usually I would go with yeah, something expected.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Yeah, you were expecting me to go like nineteen seventy
four Dodge of Monaco or something. But I mean Plymouth
did make some really good looking cars. I would say
if I had to pick, like best looking American muscle car,
I think the sixty eight Dodge Charger is the best
looking as far as the coke bottle shape. It had,
the you know it was. It had those really cool

(55:10):
little circular tail lights instead of the big beam tail
lights that the sixty nine and seventy had. It was
just that was such an ahead of its time design
when it came out. It just looks so good and
the proportions are just incredible on that.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Car, So I agree.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
I agree, the Superbird is iconic, but the Superbird, you know,
if I'm looking at it objectively, like the Superbird and
the Daytona both feel like they just tacked on a
nose cone in a wing to an already very good design.
I get why because it made it faster. Because well,
the Dodge Charger looked fantastic. It was not a very

(55:51):
good race car because they didn't do wind tunnels, they
didn't do computer testing, they didn't have all that stuff
back then. So what looked really good like that tunnel back,
which is credible, uh, is actually really bad aerodynamics because
it created a vacuum behind the car. So that's why
the Charger five hundreds and the Daytona's they would knock
out the rear glass and put in a fake or

(56:13):
a extended back to it so it had more of
an aerodynamic shape. So that's why the Daytonas all have
a different back to them than the Dodge Chargers too.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
The back window, well, anyway.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Those are those are good picks. I mean, you're all wrong.
It of course is the Aston Martin dB five. But
since now that you know, you can just move forward
in your life with that knowledge.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
But I would like you're going to pick Saturn.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
It it's it's one B.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
B nineteen ninety seven convertible.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Yes, Contour, What's what's coming up on your your channels?
Anything we can look forward to the rest of twenty
twenty five, Any anything fun that you've got for the
fans of your content.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
Yeah, so you can find me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
I'll just Contour Toy Cars is my handle. And the
biggest change for twenty twenty five is I just recently
started longer form content. So I sort of started Contour
as a primarily short form page, short form channel, but
starting January from twenty five, I started getting into more

(57:23):
of long form. So taking you out to die Cast
toy shows. I just recorded one yesterday. It's actually up
right now one of the largest Diecast toy stores in America.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
And so, yeah, just expect.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
A lot more exploration of these beautiful cars that we
are so passionate about, so much history, so many different
packaging designs, casting designs, deco designs, and yeah, just expect
a lot more of that exploration and discovery as I'm
going throughout my collecting journey and sharing that with all

(57:55):
of you.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
All right, we look forward, We look forward to it.
I think everybody loves going along with the conventions and
even stores like die cast stores, because otherwise, like you
will never know that they exist.

Speaker 6 (58:10):
You know, because shout out to die cast dude.

Speaker 8 (58:13):
I mean, I feel like he's an absolute legit when
it comes to taking you out to shows. He goes
out to the Namach just insane to see all the
different booths, and I got just a good way to
be exposed to so many great castings.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
It makes you want to jump on a flight for sure.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Oh for sure, ye yes, yeah, absolutely, trip time go
see all right.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Well, you can join Contour on his many trips around
the world of die casts over at the links that
will be in our description, or you can just google him.
That's how I found him.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
But you know, thank you Contour again for being on
the show. We're really glad that you gave us the
time to stop by and appreciate you being here. Hopefully
you can come back on and share more of your
die cast knowledge with us in the future.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Thank you so much for the Maybe I can get
a rematch.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
I know, right well, this is our first time, first
time doing the game show. We did get a we
did get a text message from a Patreon mister Big
Lou who loves the idea, So.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Maybe we'll keep it going. We need to.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Maybe on all right, all right, let's get let's get
next time Big Lose on, We're gonna have him to
do a game show.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
He probably not only.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Knows the stuff but knows the people personally who did it.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
And we'll get we'll get content. We'll have a champion's
only match.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah, absolutely, so all right, well, thank you contour again,
and thank you watchers, listeners wherever you are, whoever you are,
whenever you are, Spotify, ever you are, for being here.
Uh and again a special shout out to our patrons
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pretty cool considering where we were at, and also pretty
cool that we were able to get a model Car
Hall of Fame win with only less than six thousand subscribers.
What's going on there, guys? You guys are clearly showing
up and voting the like twenty of you that stick
around and hang out with us doing this thing. Thank
you so much for you the live crew. We love

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