October 24, 2024 • 23 mins
Janey is welcoming back bestie, Robbie McMenomey from Visit Our Garden. In this episode they talk about some gorgeous plants to think about for fall interest. Janey’s taking notes from Robbie and sharing plenty of laughs along the way. Join them for fun and some major fall planting inspiration!
Robbie’s passion for gardening sparked when he accidentally grew a coleus from a cutting, and he’s been hooked ever since. He now documents his gardening adventures as his garden evolves through his Visit Our Garden YouTube channel, Instagram, and website.
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Robbie’s passion for gardening sparked when he accidentally grew a coleus from a cutting, and he’s been hooked ever since. He now documents his gardening adventures as his garden evolves through his Visit Our Garden YouTube channel, Instagram, and website.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Calaoka Shock Media. Hi everyone, Janie here, Welcome back to
my garden and welcome back to the Dig Plant, Water
(00:24):
Repeat Podcast. I am so excited Robbie's on the podcast
again today.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey Robbie, Hello everyone, Hi Jamie. Hi. What are you
doing just you know, coming in from the garden taking
a little break?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Uh huh? Well thanks?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Every degrees and I'm under my heated blanket.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh my god. Okay, you aren't like you complain about
the heat all summer long and then it gets to
seventy and you're like, can cool?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I have the worst circulation, so.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know, excuses, excuses, Okay. So I asked Robbie to
be on the podcast today because he's really good at
planting around the season. I don't know if you all
knew that, but he's really good at kind of spreading
out his gardening season. Because your garden isn't that big.
How big is your garden?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're just under a quarter of an acre.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So we have like twenty percent of what you have.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah. Sorry, you know what, at my last house I
had less than you. So but here's the thing that
you're really good at as a gardener. Is you spread
out your plantings where you have interest basically all season long.
You're actually really good about that.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Thanks you. Literally, what I was doing today was like
getting some more like winter interest.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What did you plant today?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We planted a skyrocket juniper because it only gets about
two to three feet wide, like twenty feet twenty feet tall.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, that's gonna be big in your garden.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Gonna be big. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So tell me about what you've planted this fall for
fall interests, because you guys are hearing this podcast. It
is mid October right now, mid to late October, and
our gardens are starting to wind down. But there are
still some plants in the garden that are really really
beautiful and they're fall blooming plants.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We're really lucky here because I mean we really get
to garden most of the year, and so like I
try to think of things, Okay, well, what is going
to get me through the winter season? Our winter is
very very short here, so like for people, this is
like fall plants, but for us, it's like, okay, these
are our winter plants that bring into our gardens.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, because when is your first frost? Is it the
same as mine?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's the same as yours. Yeah, we're like days apart
from each other.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, yeah, give me some of the plants. What are
some of your favorite fall slash winter interest plants? What
is one of them that you love planting? And you
know I'm asking you so I could copy you.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Right, that's good thing we're friends.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
He doesn't care, guys, No.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Not at all, because I do the exact same thing
I know you do. My very first one was probably
Sweet Spire and that's so like, I love that red
color that you get in the fall time. I mean,
we don't have a lot of plants that do that,
you know, or if they do it, they do it
for a very short period of time. But you look
at like the East Coast and it's just red and
(03:28):
orange and yellow and it's beautiful in the fall time.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They don't even have to put any effort into into it.
We have to like think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We could really think about it. And like the window
that we get if we do get a plant, is
very short. Like I have an October Glory and it's
just like turn red. It doesn't it's never once turned red.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Don't tell me that I just planted an October story
maple don't tell me that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Maybe will be different.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Shut up. You guys should see his face right now.
You know, I know what he's thinking. You're doing great, Cheney,
You're doing great.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You're doing great. No. I mean we've had ours for
three years, and like I think last year we had
like a couple of leaves that turned like it was
like a really ugly orange and then it dropped all
of its leaves. I was like, okay, oh that was cool. Yeah,
and that was in December. Maybe that's yours. You'll have
better luck, you're a better gardener.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yes, okay, So tell me about Sweet tell me about
Sweet Spire, Like, tell me about this plan. I'm not
super familiar with it, even though I think I have
one or two planted. I think you planted too in
my garden, right.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, you have the scent landia.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I planted.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Them in you and that's the one that I have also, Oh, perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Tell me about it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's so it's kind of a like two seasons interest.
So you get gorgeous blooms off of it in this
very early springtime and the bees go crazy for it,
and it smells beautiful. It's a good sized shrub full sun.
I mean mine gets full morning sun, so I protect
(05:02):
it from that afternoon sun because it's just a little
too hot here. But it is a full sun lover
like for everyone else. I like this because it's a
little bit more compact. It gets about three feet tall
wide zones five through nine. And I'm totally cheating. I'm
reading from my phone right now. I don't just know
these things off the top of my head. Everyone know,
if you just.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Didn't say that, nobody would know because there's no there's
no video on this, but you had so I can
see him. I can see video of him, you guys,
But obviously you can't because you're listening around, so you
just glued.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I know, I know. But color is gorgeous. It's so
gorgeous is right now hasn't no no no ours isn't
going to turn for a little while. We maybe next
month we're lucky, like middle of the next month, and
it turns the most like gorgeous, Like it goes like
(06:02):
orangish orangish red to like a red color, so you
get like a like an ombre effect of a show
out of it. So it's one plant that we really
do get a really good show out of and it's
just it's it's so pretty. I love it. I want
more of them, and I have one that's in a container,
and I would like to tuckle a couple more into
the landscape.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh pretty, Yeah, I didn't realize you could put those
in a container. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah. Mine's been in a container for I think three
years now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh great, Oh that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Awesome, it's a really pretty plant.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What's another plant I can copy you with for all interest?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Okay, So Japanese and enemies because they bloom in the fall.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, I've never planted Japanese. And then probably because.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, you say my last name.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But Robbie m couldn't wonder to hurt me. What's your
say your last name? Mcnonymy no, mcmenomy, mcmenemnemone.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, McMenemy, I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Can't say it. You're Robbie. Visit our garden the YouTube chanoe,
there we go, There we go, mcmenem Did I say it?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah? You said it first time literally ever that you've
actually said it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Okay, So Robbie McMenemy plants Japanese and nomonee. This episode
is going really.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, but yeah, it's all laughs. Yeah, okay, Japanese enemies
that they bloom at the very very end of summer
in through the fall. So ours are in like full
bloom right now, and they're they're really pretty. They come
in different colors, different sizes. Ours are pink. I've got
(07:54):
one called pamina, and I thought that I planted three,
but I planted two and then another variety. And I
don't know what this other variety it is. It's just
much shorter. But the blooms are still really pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
H Yeah, I've never planned to them. I always thought
that they needed to be in cooler weather. I didn't.
I didn't realize that we could plant them.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So most of them are zones four through eight. But
you know, we don't really listen to that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We could stretch it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, and mine, I mean for us, they need
to be in like full shade. Like it's like if
you google it, it says like partial sun to the sun. Now,
they need to be in like shade for us. Mine
gets a little bit of afternoon sun and they do burn.
The fullier growth burns, and I like to use the
(08:40):
follier growth in flower arrangements too. They're really pretty in
flower arrangements. Pretty yeah, most of the year.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, I always hear people say how beautiful Japanese in them,
and theese are so.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They're so gorgeous. The blooms on mine are like five
feet tall.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
What I got to come see them?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, not anytime soon. It's a wreck.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's minus too. Don't worry. Everybody's everybody's garden is a
wreck this time of year.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's what it's. I mean. We tore out all of
our sidewalks and everything.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Which is so exciting. So for those of you who
don't know, Robbie has his own YouTube channel, Visit our Garden,
and he is in the process of making like completely
making over his garden, and the plans for it are
so exciting. Like what you have designed and you did
it yourself, like you completely designed this right, what you
(09:32):
designed is going to be incredible. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I've actually been sitting on the plan for a couple
of years now and we finally decided to execute it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh I didn't know that. Well, that's also exciting.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I get a little like mental block on things that
like all right, like the sidewalks were there, and I
was like, okay, well, the sidewalks they have to stay there.
And it's like, wait, I can pull the sidewalks up.
I don't have to keep them. No, and then I
really wanted to do the cut before I really set
on this, and so we did the cut Flower Garden
(10:06):
for one year and then this year was just kind
of a like keep everything alive.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, that's I can understand that. Robbie, we got to
take a quick break to hear a message from our sponsor.
We'll be back in just a sec. Okay, all right, everyone,
we are back with the Dig Plant Water Repeat podcast.
(10:32):
I have my bestie Robbie from Visit Our Garden, Robbie
mcammonymy from Visit Our Garden on mcmonomy McMenemy. There you go, McMenemy,
there you go, There you go. You guys know I
say it. I mispronounced it on purpose right the time
(10:53):
half the time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So Robbie and I today are talking about fall interest
because we both live in California and Northern California Zone
nine B, and we get some fall interest, but a
lot of our plants, like a lot of our annuals,
will last all the way till December. So it's kind
of hard to think about, like what actually is the
fall interest. So Robbie's talked about Sweet Spire sant Landia.
(11:21):
That's a proven winners one that's fabulous, and then Japanese
and Nominee, and then what's another one? Robbie tell us
another one.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So I really love grasses in the garden. And so
there's a muscanthus called maiden grass. Oh yes, it's one
that we have virus bollier. And when I planted it,
I thought that I was planting carl forrester grass because
it's because carl forester is much more like a narrow
(11:52):
but maiden hair grass gets huge and it's really really pretty.
But I planted it definitely in the spot. So I'm
gonna move it this like probably very early spring, late winter.
But it shows its seedheads about this time of year,
and the seed heads on it are these gorgeous pink
(12:13):
like pink silvery like seed heads. They're beautiful and flower
arrangements and they create really good like fall to like
late winter interest. I leave it up all winter long
and then I'll cut it all back. Yeah, I cut
it back very very late winter, very very early spring. Okay,
but it buys us some like good structure and it's
(12:33):
a really pretty grass once it gets established, and it
was kind of a happy accident.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah right, I mean, so tell us about Carl Forrester.
What is the Carl Forster grass?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Like, it's very narrow and it looks more like a
wheathead type grass, where like the maidenhair grass is more
like it looks like little it looks like soft hairs,
and the Carl Forster is like a it's like an
amber color almost, and it looks kind of like wheat.
(13:05):
But it's very narrow, it doesn't get It's like half
the size of the maiden hair grass.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So how did you make? This?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Was like three years ago when I didn't know what
I was doing and I bought it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like when you called I looked a.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Trick about that, okay, so what tell me?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, okay, so the first day I went to Robbie's garden,
I did a garden tour, and he was telling me
about this penstemen that gets like six seven feet taller.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's so beautiful, it's gorgeous, and I was like, I
was like, yeah, man, that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Gets taller than it. And I was just looking at
him like he was this crazy guy. And then I
was like, oh wait, do you kind of see them?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And I never remember them? And it's just okay, actually
I'm no longer gonna do it, I know, so okay,
penn of seed them is seed like seedhead of a grass,
and then pen stem in it sounds like stem like
stem of flower.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I had like six people tell me that on my
on a recent video.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
When you did you miss?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So, I was planting penstemen and I was like, okay,
my goal is to plant this penstamen so that way
I can remember the difference between these two because I've
grown pin of seedum many many years, but I can
never remember which one was witch. And I was like,
if I grow penstemen, maybe I'll like remember which one
is which. And then everyone's like Robbie.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, it'll like it'll get in.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It still didn't help. It didn't help because while I
was planting them, I still couldn't remember which one was which.
And so then the video went live and everyone told
me the trick and I was like, oh my gosh, genius.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah that makes perfect sense. Yeah, I've never heard of
that either. That's fantastic. I mean, we all have things
like that where we just like our brain you just
cannot Like for me, when I go shopping with Jason
and something's like thirty percent off, Like I'm really smart.
I'm smart at math. I can do it thout percentages.
(15:22):
I have no idea. I'll be like, what's thirty percent
off of this? And he looked at me and I'm like, no, seriously,
what you just help? We all have that thing, if
we all have things like that. No, I don't know
what it is. If it's if it's thirty or forty
percent off, I just pretend like it's fifty percent off,
and if it's seventy five percent off.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's the way I see it. Also, if you use cash,
it's also free.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I mean, come on, we've gotten through three of the five.
Tell me the last two plants that bring winter fall
interest to your garden.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, so the next one is chokeberry and specifically red chokeberry.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh. I love this because you're telling me plants I'm
not super familiar with.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You need this plant. It is so beautiful. So it's
a native, which is even more exciting.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And two natives. This is shocking.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I know, I know, but it's there's very few natives
that I like, and this one. I would love to
add more of these to my garden. They're so so beautiful.
So the red there's a chokeberry that has like blackberries,
but then the red chokeberry is just that much more
beautiful and it gets these little clusters of red berries.
The birds do go crazy for them. But I find
(16:50):
if I just put out a little bit of bird seed,
they leave it alone and it's not the thing of
an issue. Yeah, And then so once I stop putting
out bird seed, then they'll they'll totally clear that bush.
But it has one of my favorites. It has black stems,
which you know, I love black stems.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I love that you love black stems. I just think
that's the most interesting quality that I never pay attention to.
But Robbie is like, look at those black stems, and
it's like, I, oh, you're right, they are real pretty.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah it is brown or whatever. So yeah, so the
black stems on it, and then the foliar growth isn't
that beautiful? The flowers are Okay, they're like underwhelming. They
do get a ton of flowers, and so you'll get
these little teeny tiny they look like cherry blossoms almost,
(17:39):
but smaller and they don't last very long. And then
right now it's got a ton of berries. It's loaded
up with them, and they've all turned to their red color.
And so I've got this green plant with black stems
and these red berries, and in a couple of weeks,
all of the foliar growth is going to look like,
you know, like a burning book bush. Yeah, like red
(18:01):
they get It's gonna look like a burning bush.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Ooh pretty. And I thought that with the red stems
is gorgeous. I mean black stems, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's so, it's so pretty. And then like I've got
the black fence like you do, and so like the
red on the black, it just glows even.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
More pretty pretty? Can you dry the berries? Can you
like take a branch off and will the berries stay
on the branch? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm sure you could. I mean I saw a photo
when I was looking up some more information about it,
and there was some people who had dried berries. Look
at that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh that's so pretty. He's showing me a picture. I'll
put it on Instagram. Yeah, you should see if you
could dry the berries, because then wouldn't that be pretty?
Tucked into some like range fall arrangements even, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Arrangements too would be really gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, I gotta it's on my list to play on
my gardener. Yeah, I love it. You just have to
give me a list of all the plants that I'm
missing in my garden, because it's funny because you tell
me all these plants and I'm like, I never even
think about that. It's not even on my radar. Chick
berry was not on mykay.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Truth for I feel like most people anyways, you know,
I come down to your garden, I'm like, oh my gosh,
why did I never even think about that plant? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah. It's one of the reasons why I love garden
tours because I just get a copy everybody that I
see and it makes my garden. I get so much inspiration,
and hopefully those of you watching my garden tours on
my YouTube channel, hopefully you guys get the same amount
of inspiration too, because I just love it. All Right, Robbie,
we're almost out of time. What is your fifth and
(19:38):
final plant that gives fall interest in your garden.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's one that I feel most people don't like. I
feel like you either love it or you hate it. Okay,
and it's just an ornamental kale.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Ornamental kale, do you hate them? I don't hate it.
I just don't plant it. Ever.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I just did a whole edge of them, you did.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm sure it's beautiful. I'm sure it's absolutely beautiful. So well,
tell me about it, Like, tell me why you love it.
Convince me to like ornamental scale.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I feel like I've seen so so like I love
English gardens. I think that they're so romantic and beautiful
and they plant like veggies in their landscape, and so
I like to use like ornamental kales. I'm not gonna
eat it. It's ornamental. I mean, I don't even know
if it tastes good. But I can grow them, and
(20:34):
it gives me interest all winter long. I did alternating
this year, so I did purples and whites. So it's
an alternating border of these ornamental kales, and they're gonna
get these beautiful little heads on them, and I just
think it's I don't know, it gives me like Peter
Rabbit vibes. Oh yeah, it's just I don't know. They're
just very sweet and they might be something that's more
(20:55):
like nostalgic to me or something that I more like romanticize,
but I just, yeah, the look of them.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's great. I mean, that's fine. I mean I think
I do. I think it's another one that I just
don't really think about, like cat ornaments, cabbage. I don't
really think about that that much, you know what I mean.
But when I see it, it's beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous.
So that's a good one. And that's a good one
to kind of add to your containers too.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, it's a really good one for containers landscaping. I mean,
just make sure that you put something down for the
slugs because they go after them like crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
What do you use for slugs?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I used to bond eyed slug and bug?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh, slug and bug. You use slug and bug? Interesting,
I've never used that. I always used slug.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh. So I've found it works really good because we
also deal with pincher bugs, and so that one targets
pincher bugs. Slugs and snails like it are the three
that it like talks about the most. Yeah. So I've
had really good luck with it when I use it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh cool, I'll I'll have to look that up, all right, Robbie.
Thank you for being on the podcast again. I'm sorry
you lost power. You're sitting there and know you're sitting
there in the dark. Well, I mean it's still light outside.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Oh your your heating blanket turned off?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Are you so sad?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's seventy degrees out, it's so cold?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Are you going to survive?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
My God, send jacket.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Everybody. Let's pray for Robbie. All right, If you want
to watch Robbie, I will put I will link his instagram,
which is hilarious by the way, in the description down below,
along with his YouTube channel. He is my garden bestie
and I love you Robbie.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Thanks, I love you too. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
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my garden and welcome back to the Dig Plant, Water
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Repeat Podcast. I am so excited Robbie's on the podcast
again today.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey Robbie, Hello everyone, Hi Jamie. Hi. What are you
doing just you know, coming in from the garden taking
a little break?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Uh huh? Well thanks?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Every degrees and I'm under my heated blanket.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh my god. Okay, you aren't like you complain about
the heat all summer long and then it gets to
seventy and you're like, can cool?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I have the worst circulation, so.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You know, excuses, excuses, Okay. So I asked Robbie to
be on the podcast today because he's really good at
planting around the season. I don't know if you all
knew that, but he's really good at kind of spreading
out his gardening season. Because your garden isn't that big.
How big is your garden?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're just under a quarter of an acre.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So we have like twenty percent of what you have.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah. Sorry, you know what, at my last house I
had less than you. So but here's the thing that
you're really good at as a gardener. Is you spread
out your plantings where you have interest basically all season long.
You're actually really good about that.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Thanks you. Literally, what I was doing today was like
getting some more like winter interest.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What did you plant today?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We planted a skyrocket juniper because it only gets about
two to three feet wide, like twenty feet twenty feet tall.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, that's gonna be big in your garden.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Gonna be big. That's fun.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So tell me about what you've planted this fall for
fall interests, because you guys are hearing this podcast. It
is mid October right now, mid to late October, and
our gardens are starting to wind down. But there are
still some plants in the garden that are really really
beautiful and they're fall blooming plants.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We're really lucky here because I mean we really get
to garden most of the year, and so like I
try to think of things, Okay, well, what is going
to get me through the winter season? Our winter is
very very short here, so like for people, this is
like fall plants, but for us, it's like, okay, these
are our winter plants that bring into our gardens.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, because when is your first frost? Is it the
same as mine?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's the same as yours. Yeah, we're like days apart
from each other.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, yeah, give me some of the plants. What are
some of your favorite fall slash winter interest plants? What
is one of them that you love planting? And you
know I'm asking you so I could copy you.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Right, that's good thing we're friends.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
He doesn't care, guys, No.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Not at all, because I do the exact same thing
I know you do. My very first one was probably
Sweet Spire and that's so like, I love that red
color that you get in the fall time. I mean,
we don't have a lot of plants that do that,
you know, or if they do it, they do it
for a very short period of time. But you look
at like the East Coast and it's just red and
(03:28):
orange and yellow and it's beautiful in the fall time.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They don't even have to put any effort into into it.
We have to like think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We could really think about it. And like the window
that we get if we do get a plant, is
very short. Like I have an October Glory and it's
just like turn red. It doesn't it's never once turned red.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Don't tell me that I just planted an October story
maple don't tell me that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Maybe will be different.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Shut up. You guys should see his face right now.
You know, I know what he's thinking. You're doing great, Cheney,
You're doing great.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You're doing great. No. I mean we've had ours for
three years, and like I think last year we had
like a couple of leaves that turned like it was
like a really ugly orange and then it dropped all
of its leaves. I was like, okay, oh that was cool. Yeah,
and that was in December. Maybe that's yours. You'll have
better luck, you're a better gardener.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yes, okay, So tell me about Sweet tell me about
Sweet Spire, Like, tell me about this plan. I'm not
super familiar with it, even though I think I have
one or two planted. I think you planted too in
my garden, right.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, you have the scent landia.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I planted.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Them in you and that's the one that I have also, Oh, perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Tell me about it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's so it's kind of a like two seasons interest.
So you get gorgeous blooms off of it in this
very early springtime and the bees go crazy for it,
and it smells beautiful. It's a good sized shrub full sun.
I mean mine gets full morning sun, so I protect
(05:02):
it from that afternoon sun because it's just a little
too hot here. But it is a full sun lover
like for everyone else. I like this because it's a
little bit more compact. It gets about three feet tall
wide zones five through nine. And I'm totally cheating. I'm
reading from my phone right now. I don't just know
these things off the top of my head. Everyone know,
if you just.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Didn't say that, nobody would know because there's no there's
no video on this, but you had so I can
see him. I can see video of him, you guys,
But obviously you can't because you're listening around, so you
just glued.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I know, I know. But color is gorgeous. It's so
gorgeous is right now hasn't no no no ours isn't
going to turn for a little while. We maybe next
month we're lucky, like middle of the next month, and
it turns the most like gorgeous, Like it goes like
(06:02):
orangish orangish red to like a red color, so you
get like a like an ombre effect of a show
out of it. So it's one plant that we really
do get a really good show out of and it's
just it's it's so pretty. I love it. I want
more of them, and I have one that's in a container,
and I would like to tuckle a couple more into
the landscape.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Oh pretty, Yeah, I didn't realize you could put those
in a container. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah. Mine's been in a container for I think three
years now.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh great, Oh that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Awesome, it's a really pretty plant.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What's another plant I can copy you with for all interest?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Okay, So Japanese and enemies because they bloom in the fall.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know, I've never planted Japanese. And then probably because.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, you say my last name.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But Robbie m couldn't wonder to hurt me. What's your
say your last name? Mcnonymy no, mcmenomy, mcmenemnemone.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, McMenemy, I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Can't say it. You're Robbie. Visit our garden the YouTube chanoe,
there we go, There we go, mcmenem Did I say it?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah? You said it first time literally ever that you've
actually said it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Okay, So Robbie McMenemy plants Japanese and nomonee. This episode
is going really.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, but yeah, it's all laughs. Yeah, okay, Japanese enemies
that they bloom at the very very end of summer
in through the fall. So ours are in like full
bloom right now, and they're they're really pretty. They come
in different colors, different sizes. Ours are pink. I've got
(07:54):
one called pamina, and I thought that I planted three,
but I planted two and then another variety. And I
don't know what this other variety it is. It's just
much shorter. But the blooms are still really pretty.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
H Yeah, I've never planned to them. I always thought
that they needed to be in cooler weather. I didn't.
I didn't realize that we could plant them.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So most of them are zones four through eight. But
you know, we don't really listen to that.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We could stretch it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, and mine, I mean for us, they need
to be in like full shade. Like it's like if
you google it, it says like partial sun to the sun. Now,
they need to be in like shade for us. Mine
gets a little bit of afternoon sun and they do burn.
The fullier growth burns, and I like to use the
(08:40):
follier growth in flower arrangements too. They're really pretty in
flower arrangements. Pretty yeah, most of the year.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, I always hear people say how beautiful Japanese in them,
and theese are so.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
They're so gorgeous. The blooms on mine are like five
feet tall.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
What I got to come see them?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, not anytime soon. It's a wreck.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's minus too. Don't worry. Everybody's everybody's garden is a
wreck this time of year.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's what it's. I mean. We tore out all of
our sidewalks and everything.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Which is so exciting. So for those of you who
don't know, Robbie has his own YouTube channel, Visit our Garden,
and he is in the process of making like completely
making over his garden, and the plans for it are
so exciting. Like what you have designed and you did
it yourself, like you completely designed this right, what you
(09:32):
designed is going to be incredible. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I've actually been sitting on the plan for a couple
of years now and we finally decided to execute it.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh I didn't know that. Well, that's also exciting.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I get a little like mental block on things that
like all right, like the sidewalks were there, and I
was like, okay, well, the sidewalks they have to stay there.
And it's like, wait, I can pull the sidewalks up.
I don't have to keep them. No, and then I
really wanted to do the cut before I really set
on this, and so we did the cut Flower Garden
(10:06):
for one year and then this year was just kind
of a like keep everything alive.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, that's I can understand that. Robbie, we got to
take a quick break to hear a message from our sponsor.
We'll be back in just a sec. Okay, all right, everyone,
we are back with the Dig Plant Water Repeat podcast.
(10:32):
I have my bestie Robbie from Visit Our Garden, Robbie
mcammonymy from Visit Our Garden on mcmonomy McMenemy. There you go, McMenemy,
there you go, There you go. You guys know I
say it. I mispronounced it on purpose right the time
(10:53):
half the time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So Robbie and I today are talking about fall interest
because we both live in California and Northern California Zone
nine B, and we get some fall interest, but a
lot of our plants, like a lot of our annuals,
will last all the way till December. So it's kind
of hard to think about, like what actually is the
fall interest. So Robbie's talked about Sweet Spire sant Landia.
(11:21):
That's a proven winners one that's fabulous, and then Japanese
and Nominee, and then what's another one? Robbie tell us
another one.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So I really love grasses in the garden. And so
there's a muscanthus called maiden grass. Oh yes, it's one
that we have virus bollier. And when I planted it,
I thought that I was planting carl forrester grass because
it's because carl forester is much more like a narrow
(11:52):
but maiden hair grass gets huge and it's really really pretty.
But I planted it definitely in the spot. So I'm
gonna move it this like probably very early spring, late winter.
But it shows its seedheads about this time of year,
and the seed heads on it are these gorgeous pink
(12:13):
like pink silvery like seed heads. They're beautiful and flower
arrangements and they create really good like fall to like
late winter interest. I leave it up all winter long
and then I'll cut it all back. Yeah, I cut
it back very very late winter, very very early spring. Okay,
but it buys us some like good structure and it's
(12:33):
a really pretty grass once it gets established, and it
was kind of a happy accident.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah right, I mean, so tell us about Carl Forrester.
What is the Carl Forster grass?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Like, it's very narrow and it looks more like a
wheathead type grass, where like the maidenhair grass is more
like it looks like little it looks like soft hairs,
and the Carl Forster is like a it's like an
amber color almost, and it looks kind of like wheat.
(13:05):
But it's very narrow, it doesn't get It's like half
the size of the maiden hair grass.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
So how did you make? This?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Was like three years ago when I didn't know what
I was doing and I bought it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like when you called I looked a.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Trick about that, okay, so what tell me?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, okay, so the first day I went to Robbie's garden,
I did a garden tour, and he was telling me
about this penstemen that gets like six seven feet taller.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's so beautiful, it's gorgeous, and I was like, I
was like, yeah, man, that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Gets taller than it. And I was just looking at
him like he was this crazy guy. And then I
was like, oh wait, do you kind of see them?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And I never remember them? And it's just okay, actually
I'm no longer gonna do it, I know, so okay,
penn of seed them is seed like seedhead of a grass,
and then pen stem in it sounds like stem like
stem of flower.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I had like six people tell me that on my
on a recent video.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
When you did you miss?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So, I was planting penstemen and I was like, okay,
my goal is to plant this penstamen so that way
I can remember the difference between these two because I've
grown pin of seedum many many years, but I can
never remember which one was witch. And I was like,
if I grow penstemen, maybe I'll like remember which one
is which. And then everyone's like Robbie.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, it'll like it'll get in.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It still didn't help. It didn't help because while I
was planting them, I still couldn't remember which one was which.
And so then the video went live and everyone told
me the trick and I was like, oh my gosh, genius.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah that makes perfect sense. Yeah, I've never heard of
that either. That's fantastic. I mean, we all have things
like that where we just like our brain you just
cannot Like for me, when I go shopping with Jason
and something's like thirty percent off, Like I'm really smart.
I'm smart at math. I can do it thout percentages.
(15:22):
I have no idea. I'll be like, what's thirty percent
off of this? And he looked at me and I'm like, no, seriously,
what you just help? We all have that thing, if
we all have things like that. No, I don't know
what it is. If it's if it's thirty or forty
percent off, I just pretend like it's fifty percent off,
and if it's seventy five percent off.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's the way I see it. Also, if you use cash,
it's also free.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I mean, come on, we've gotten through three of the five.
Tell me the last two plants that bring winter fall
interest to your garden.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, so the next one is chokeberry and specifically red chokeberry.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh. I love this because you're telling me plants I'm
not super familiar with.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You need this plant. It is so beautiful. So it's
a native, which is even more exciting.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And two natives. This is shocking.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I know, I know, but it's there's very few natives
that I like, and this one. I would love to
add more of these to my garden. They're so so beautiful.
So the red there's a chokeberry that has like blackberries,
but then the red chokeberry is just that much more
beautiful and it gets these little clusters of red berries.
The birds do go crazy for them. But I find
(16:50):
if I just put out a little bit of bird seed,
they leave it alone and it's not the thing of
an issue. Yeah, And then so once I stop putting
out bird seed, then they'll they'll totally clear that bush.
But it has one of my favorites. It has black stems,
which you know, I love black stems.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I love that you love black stems. I just think
that's the most interesting quality that I never pay attention to.
But Robbie is like, look at those black stems, and
it's like, I, oh, you're right, they are real pretty.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah it is brown or whatever. So yeah, so the
black stems on it, and then the foliar growth isn't
that beautiful? The flowers are Okay, they're like underwhelming. They
do get a ton of flowers, and so you'll get
these little teeny tiny they look like cherry blossoms almost,
(17:39):
but smaller and they don't last very long. And then
right now it's got a ton of berries. It's loaded
up with them, and they've all turned to their red color.
And so I've got this green plant with black stems
and these red berries, and in a couple of weeks,
all of the foliar growth is going to look like,
you know, like a burning book bush. Yeah, like red
(18:01):
they get It's gonna look like a burning bush.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Ooh pretty. And I thought that with the red stems
is gorgeous. I mean black stems, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's so, it's so pretty. And then like I've got
the black fence like you do, and so like the
red on the black, it just glows even.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
More pretty pretty? Can you dry the berries? Can you
like take a branch off and will the berries stay
on the branch? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm sure you could. I mean I saw a photo
when I was looking up some more information about it,
and there was some people who had dried berries. Look
at that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh that's so pretty. He's showing me a picture. I'll
put it on Instagram. Yeah, you should see if you
could dry the berries, because then wouldn't that be pretty?
Tucked into some like range fall arrangements even, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Arrangements too would be really gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, I gotta it's on my list to play on
my gardener. Yeah, I love it. You just have to
give me a list of all the plants that I'm
missing in my garden, because it's funny because you tell
me all these plants and I'm like, I never even
think about that. It's not even on my radar. Chick
berry was not on mykay.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Truth for I feel like most people anyways, you know,
I come down to your garden, I'm like, oh my gosh,
why did I never even think about that plant? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah. It's one of the reasons why I love garden
tours because I just get a copy everybody that I
see and it makes my garden. I get so much inspiration,
and hopefully those of you watching my garden tours on
my YouTube channel, hopefully you guys get the same amount
of inspiration too, because I just love it. All Right, Robbie,
we're almost out of time. What is your fifth and
(19:38):
final plant that gives fall interest in your garden.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It's one that I feel most people don't like. I
feel like you either love it or you hate it. Okay,
and it's just an ornamental kale.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Ornamental kale, do you hate them? I don't hate it.
I just don't plant it. Ever.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I just did a whole edge of them, you did.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm sure it's beautiful. I'm sure it's absolutely beautiful. So well,
tell me about it, Like, tell me why you love it.
Convince me to like ornamental scale.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I feel like I've seen so so like I love
English gardens. I think that they're so romantic and beautiful
and they plant like veggies in their landscape, and so
I like to use like ornamental kales. I'm not gonna
eat it. It's ornamental. I mean, I don't even know
if it tastes good. But I can grow them, and
(20:34):
it gives me interest all winter long. I did alternating
this year, so I did purples and whites. So it's
an alternating border of these ornamental kales, and they're gonna
get these beautiful little heads on them, and I just
think it's I don't know, it gives me like Peter
Rabbit vibes. Oh yeah, it's just I don't know. They're
just very sweet and they might be something that's more
(20:55):
like nostalgic to me or something that I more like romanticize,
but I just, yeah, the look of them.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's great. I mean, that's fine. I mean I think
I do. I think it's another one that I just
don't really think about, like cat ornaments, cabbage. I don't
really think about that that much, you know what I mean.
But when I see it, it's beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous.
So that's a good one. And that's a good one
to kind of add to your containers too.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, it's a really good one for containers landscaping. I mean,
just make sure that you put something down for the
slugs because they go after them like crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
What do you use for slugs?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I used to bond eyed slug and bug?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh, slug and bug. You use slug and bug? Interesting,
I've never used that. I always used slug.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh. So I've found it works really good because we
also deal with pincher bugs, and so that one targets
pincher bugs. Slugs and snails like it are the three
that it like talks about the most. Yeah. So I've
had really good luck with it when I use it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh cool, I'll I'll have to look that up, all right, Robbie.
Thank you for being on the podcast again. I'm sorry
you lost power. You're sitting there and know you're sitting
there in the dark. Well, I mean it's still light outside.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Oh your your heating blanket turned off?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Are you so sad?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's seventy degrees out, it's so cold?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Are you going to survive?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
My God, send jacket.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Everybody. Let's pray for Robbie. All right, If you want
to watch Robbie, I will put I will link his instagram,
which is hilarious by the way, in the description down below,
along with his YouTube channel. He is my garden bestie
and I love you Robbie.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Thanks, I love you too. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I hope you all enjoyed this, and I hope you
all have a chance to get in your garden today.
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