September 9, 2024 • 18 mins
In this episode, Janey welcomes Debb Cozzi from Debb’s Garden! It's time to get ready for all things fall, including fall seed starting. Debb, who lives on a two-acre property, turned to seed starting to transform her large space. Janey and Debb discuss what sparked Debb’s interest in seed starting and the best ways to begin your own seed-starting journey.
Be sure to tune into the next episode for Part Two, where they’ll dive into the best seed-starting tips!Debb is a self-taught gardener who tends a two-acre property in rural San Diego County, Zone 9B. As Debb says, “The garden is a great teacher who whispers wisdom. My goal is to provide a place where you find beauty, encouragement, and friendship centered on the shared delight of gardening.”
Check out Janey’s tour of Debb’s amazing property
Swallowtail Seed Company (Debb’s favorite seed supplier!)
For more from Debb, check out her instagram @acozzigarden.
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Be sure to tune into the next episode for Part Two, where they’ll dive into the best seed-starting tips!Debb is a self-taught gardener who tends a two-acre property in rural San Diego County, Zone 9B. As Debb says, “The garden is a great teacher who whispers wisdom. My goal is to provide a place where you find beauty, encouragement, and friendship centered on the shared delight of gardening.”
Check out Janey’s tour of Debb’s amazing property
Swallowtail Seed Company (Debb’s favorite seed supplier!)
For more from Debb, check out her instagram @acozzigarden.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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your next favorite plant today Callarogashawk Media. Hi everyone, Jane here,
(00:54):
welcome back to my garden and welcome back to the
Dig Plant, Water Repeat Podcast. We are closing in on
the beginning of fall now and that means cooler temperatures,
pumpkin spice everything, and of course fall seed starting. So
today I have Deb Cozy from a Cozy Garden as
(01:14):
a guest on the podcast. Deb is such a sweet soul.
She's a self taught gardener in the San Diego area
of California and has the most beautiful two acre garden
that she started the majority from seed.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Welcome Deb, Hi, say it's so good to see you again.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you so again. I guess I should say.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, it's so good to see. Oh my goodness. So
I went down and I visited Deb earlier this year
and did a tour of her garden and was blown away. Deb, like,
your garden is just the most beautiful, wonderful oasis.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Thank you, sweetheart. I is a thrill to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I am just I catch as a friend and you know,
just loved getting a chance to share my garden with
you and all of it. I do have to say,
all of your amazing viewers, oh my goodness, I was
blown away by the kindness of their comments when you
shared that video and everything.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It was just like, oh my gosh, it's filling my cup.
It's good. It was so sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So everybody loved you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, we will link the video video link in the
description of this podcast, so you can actually get a
view of a visual of Deb's garden. But why don't
you tell everybody like your story of how you got
into gardening, because I love hearing you talk about it.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, I actually was a lover of gardens, and I
loved the idea of gardening long before I actually ever gardened.
I had exposure to some beautiful gardens. Both my maternal
and paternal grandmothers were gardeners, and my great grandmother had
a beautiful rose garden. She was incredible rosarian, and so
I would visit them and see their gardens and just
(02:57):
you know, fell in love with the beauty that they
were creating and kind of the sense of sanctuary that
they were able to develop in their gardens. And so
I love that idea, but never really had any practical
experience of it. And I'm also I just have a
profound love of nature and growing things and God's creation.
Spent years and years hiking this year in Nevadas and
(03:19):
just you know, absorbing the beauty and majesty of you know,
growing things and how they all work together and everything.
So I don't know, just you know, the the that
process of you know, enjoying that aspect of God's creation
knit together in me a desire to become a gardener myself,
(03:40):
and so that was kind of the genesis of it.
And so, you know, I started a garden, and I
have to say I didn't know at the time, you know,
looking on the outside, looking in all of the other
things that becoming a gardener brings to you and brings
to your life, and I think, you know, I I
(04:02):
love the opportunity that the garden has to allow me
to express myself creatively.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I consider myself a.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Creative person and it's kind of a reflection of kind
of the inner thing that makes me tick. And so
to be able to, you know, to uh create something
that's there and that people can see, and you know,
to share the beauty of the world that I see
with others is just it really delights my heart. And
(04:30):
I love to take care of things. I love to
nurture things. I you know, I loved being a mama.
I have cats and dogs, and you know, I think
you mentioned that once in one of your videos that
gardeners tend to have.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Pets, because I do.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just think that, you know, we're just inclined to
want to nurture, and you know, the garden just provides
that opportunity to be able to do that, and so,
you know, I really love that. And then you know, finally,
I think has uh As a person of faith, when
I'm in my garden, I see aspects of my faith
reflected all the time, over and over again, you know,
(05:03):
ideas of grace and beauty and patience and life and
death and rebirth and you know, most especially just the
transformative power of sacrificial love. You know, to be a
gardener takes sacrifice. You got to work hard at it,
you fail a lot of times. You've got to give
up other things that you might want to be doing.
(05:24):
And when you do, though, and that garden responds to
what you are bringing to it. It's just it's really
something beautiful and dare I say, sometimes almost sacred. And
so I you know, I have found for me. You know,
being a gardener is it's good for my health. It
(05:46):
keeps me healthy now because you're out there work and
all the time, you know, you get your lots of
your vitamin D and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It's good for your mental energy.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know, you can disassociate from all the kind of
craziness that's going on in the world and you know,
just focus on you know, eternal things and you know,
and for me, it draws me close to my savior.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And so you know, being in the garden is.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Just it's it's good for my soul, you know, I'll
say that. It's you know, and hopefully you know as
uh as it gives back to other people it, you know,
it benefits them in those ways too.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I know exactly what you're talking about. When the
garden finally gives back to you, it's like, yeah, yeah,
it's something. It's so special.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It's such a special feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wonder I love it. I love listening to you talk
dem you just it's just so wonderful.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Don't say I babble, They say, mom, you use ten
words when other people only need to.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's what makes you you dead. That's why I love you,
and that's why we want you on a podcast. So,
dev when I went down, gosh, when was that? Was
(07:05):
it April?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, So when I went down to see your garden,
it's a pretty significant garden. You have a big garden,
and you kept showing me things that you had grown
from seed. I'd be like, oh, that's a beautiful flower.
Oh I grew that from seed. Oh I grew that
from seed. And it blew my mind. I could not
(07:29):
believe what you were able to start from seed in
this fairly large garden. So tell me a little bit
about starting starting things from seed. Why do you focus
on starting so much stuff from seed?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, so my garden is about.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I have two acres of property and the vast majority
of it now has some form of garden. Some of
it is still a work in progress, but you know,
it's excuse me, I want to say it's completely established.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But anyways, why do I start things from seed?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
When I originally started developing my garden, I wasn't really
sure what I wanted to do. I didn't know how
to fill all the empty spaces, and I was restricted
on my budget.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was limited on budget and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So it seemed like if I started things from seed one,
it's very cost effective, and there wasn't that commitment to
like if you go out and you buy a five
gallon plant and you send forty five dollars on it
and you PLoP.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
It in the ground. Now, I know you can dig
it up and you can move it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But it just seemed like, you know, with as variable
as I was and uncertain as I was about how
I wanted to develop everything, seeds just seemed like an
easier way to go. If it did less pure, it
wasn't that big of a deal to just rip it
all out and start over. Yeah, So I did that,
and I also because I didn't know I focused originally
(08:58):
most of my seeds starting to begin with annuals. So
you know, it was this, you know, I started with
at one, They're easy, you know, Zenya's cosmos sunflowers, you know,
on and on and on. They're so easy to grow
from seed, and uh they're done at.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The end of the season, and then you know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You can figure out, Okay, I like the height of
the sunflowers in that area. I want something permanent that's
kind of sunflower ish, but that's not an annual, you know.
So I kind of played with design elements in my garden,
seeing annuals as a substitute for things that I knew
eventually I was either going to replace with foundational plants
(09:36):
or perennials or you know, blooming evergreens or that kind
of thing. That was kind of my you know, my
thought process and going in and now I am in
the process of you know, uh, transitioning a lot of
the areas that I had with annuals and grow starting
perennials from seeds. So which not to say that I
(09:59):
don't go out and buy plants.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I do go out, yes, we all prison garden.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I do do that, but there is just a particular
satisfaction that comes when you start something from seed and
you you know, you have this tiny little thing that
you can sometimes barely see.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I've got to put my.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Magnifying glous on these days that I'm getting so all
my eyes are going, you know, to figure out is
that seed?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Did that seed really get in the tray? It's all
on the ground, and you know, and that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That kind of that step of faith that you take
when you do that right, you have that sea tray
with all that you know, fresh soil, and you've got
it all crept in everything, and you put these seeds
in it and it's.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Just it just sits there for you know, to put
it on your mat.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You put it under your girl, and you know you're peeking,
like I'm actually.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Get in is it going to grow?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And then but then when those you know, when that
first portlane leaf comes up, you know, and then they
get their first set of true leaves, and you know,
and then you plant it out in the garden and
this thing that was this microscopic little seed becomes this
six foot towering plant.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You know, It's just like what a wonder I can't know?
So you know, the satisfaction and the delight of that.
Just I think I would just encourage anyone even if
you I love to buy plants. I love to go
out and you know that instant gratification. Yeah, I say,
oh my goodness. But there is something special when you
(11:39):
go out and you see something and you you know,
you know, I started that baby from seed.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah. I saw a funny thing on Instagram where somebody said,
if a gardener ever tells you that they started that
plant from seed, they're flexing on you. I was, and
I was like, yeah, absolutely they should.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm sorry, I don't flexing.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, no, no, it's a good thing. No, Deb, I'm
saying it's a good thing. You should be flexing because
that you're right, because starting something from seed is so
much more special because you've babed it from that little,
tiny little thing and you grew it up and honestly,
you start a lot of perennials from seed.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Now, right, I do I think.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Starting perennials from seed is even more of a FLEXI
because that's kind of you know, that's kind of tough.
And I do want to say to everybody that Deb,
you start your garden was an empty piece of property.
When you started, like, you didn't even have grass, you
didn't have trees.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, and so to see.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What it's become is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Deb.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We got to take a quick break to hear a
message from our sponsor. When we come back, can we
talk more about like the ins and outs of how
you start seeds and start perennials. Okay, great, we'll be
back in a sec. Okay, Hi everyone, We're back with
a Dig Plant, Watery Peat podcast. I have Deb Cozy
(13:09):
from a Cozy Garden on the podcast today and we
are talking all about starting our gardens from seed. It
is fall and it is time for fall seeds starting,
so Deb, Deb. We've been talking to Deb about starting
a bunch of her garden from seed and how it's
kind of a flex.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's kind of a flex.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So, Deb, when I was down there visiting you in June,
you were talking about your favorite seed supplier. Can you
talk about your favorite seed supplier?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yes, yeah, so I my most favorite, my go to
seed supplier is Swallowtail Seed Company and they are located
here in California. I love supporting, you know, local people
that are in the same county or same state or whatever.
But beyond that, I really love their selection of seeds.
And I also think I got to thinking. I think
(13:59):
that because the seeds are grown in a similar climate,
where both in California, they're a little bit further.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
North than I am.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I wonder if that's, you know, one of the reasons
that I have such success with them, because the seeds
that are being germinated or that are that they are
growing and then shipping out are being grown under the same,
very similar climate conditions and that kind of thing. So
that's not to say that you can't you get seeds
from other areas, but I do wonder sometimes if that's
(14:29):
a reason that I do have such good successful swallowtail.
I also don't I don't shop with them exclusively. I
also love Johnny Seed. Johnny Seed has a particular benefit,
I think, to people that are wanting to first start
out on seed company. If you go on their website,
they have a resource catalog of information that you can do.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They've got realms and reams and reams.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Of material for whatever seed that you're wanting to start
that gives you all the details.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Sometimes it can be overwhelming, but if you really.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Have your heart set on something for instance, for me,
it was lisianthus. I really wanted to grow Lisianthus is
notoriously known as being a challenging, difficult plant to grow
from seed.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I got to do it. I yet to succeed.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So I went on JET and I get I do
get Johnny seeds is where I get my losiantheses.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
They don't get them from swallowtail. They just have a
better selection of seeds.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And I have followed their information on how to do
it to the letter.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's finicky.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It requires you know knowledge about how to water, what
you want to keep the temperature when they germinate, what
you want to keep the temperature when they first come out,
when you want to plant them out, all of that
kind of stuff. And I've had great success. I've grown
them four years in a row and I have for
this is a flex again, so I want to hear it.
(16:00):
Dads of lousianthus that are just amazing. They're the most gorgeous,
gorgeous scene in the world. So I say that not
to flex. Really you should flex, just to share that, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm going to flex for Deb one more time. Deb
is also a photographer and a an incredible photographer. I
have one of her photographs in my office right now,
right behind me. And the pictures that she takes of
her flowers and lisianthus and puts on Instagram are stunning.
They're absolutely beautiful. So Deb, you flex all you want
(16:34):
about those Lisianthas in your group from seed and the
photographs that you took of you should.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You should absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Flex on them.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Only if that helps others. It does.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But anyways, I share that with Johnny's because it does, uh,
it does helps, it has it has a wealth of information,
so take advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And you know, listen to and following the YouTube channel
and there's my flex.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There's so much information that's available to gardners today if
you want to get started to see.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, that it's just you know, there's no reason not
to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
There's no reason. There's no reason not to do it.
It doesn't cost a lot of money. It does cost
a lot of you know, some time, right, it does
take some time, but it's worth it. It's absolutely worth it. Hey, Deb,
We're going to end today's episode here for now, but
please join us on the next episode of Dig Plant
Water Repeat, where we'll continue our conversation and part two
(17:35):
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(00:22):
and specifically chosen for one purpose and one purpose only
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your next favorite plant today Callarogashawk Media. Hi everyone, Jane here,
(00:54):
welcome back to my garden and welcome back to the
Dig Plant, Water Repeat Podcast. We are closing in on
the beginning of fall now and that means cooler temperatures,
pumpkin spice everything, and of course fall seed starting. So
today I have Deb Cozy from a Cozy Garden as
(01:14):
a guest on the podcast. Deb is such a sweet soul.
She's a self taught gardener in the San Diego area
of California and has the most beautiful two acre garden
that she started the majority from seed.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Welcome Deb, Hi, say it's so good to see you again.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Thank you so again. I guess I should say.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, it's so good to see. Oh my goodness. So
I went down and I visited Deb earlier this year
and did a tour of her garden and was blown away. Deb, like,
your garden is just the most beautiful, wonderful oasis.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Thank you, sweetheart. I is a thrill to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I am just I catch as a friend and you know,
just loved getting a chance to share my garden with
you and all of it. I do have to say,
all of your amazing viewers, oh my goodness, I was
blown away by the kindness of their comments when you
shared that video and everything.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It was just like, oh my gosh, it's filling my cup.
It's good. It was so sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So everybody loved you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, we will link the video video link in the
description of this podcast, so you can actually get a
view of a visual of Deb's garden. But why don't
you tell everybody like your story of how you got
into gardening, because I love hearing you talk about it.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, I actually was a lover of gardens, and I
loved the idea of gardening long before I actually ever gardened.
I had exposure to some beautiful gardens. Both my maternal
and paternal grandmothers were gardeners, and my great grandmother had
a beautiful rose garden. She was incredible rosarian, and so
I would visit them and see their gardens and just
(02:57):
you know, fell in love with the beauty that they
were creating and kind of the sense of sanctuary that
they were able to develop in their gardens. And so
I love that idea, but never really had any practical
experience of it. And I'm also I just have a
profound love of nature and growing things and God's creation.
Spent years and years hiking this year in Nevadas and
(03:19):
just you know, absorbing the beauty and majesty of you know,
growing things and how they all work together and everything.
So I don't know, just you know, the the that
process of you know, enjoying that aspect of God's creation
knit together in me a desire to become a gardener myself,
(03:40):
and so that was kind of the genesis of it.
And so, you know, I started a garden, and I
have to say I didn't know at the time, you know,
looking on the outside, looking in all of the other
things that becoming a gardener brings to you and brings
to your life, and I think, you know, I I
(04:02):
love the opportunity that the garden has to allow me
to express myself creatively.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I consider myself a.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Creative person and it's kind of a reflection of kind
of the inner thing that makes me tick. And so
to be able to, you know, to uh create something
that's there and that people can see, and you know,
to share the beauty of the world that I see
with others is just it really delights my heart. And
(04:30):
I love to take care of things. I love to
nurture things. I you know, I loved being a mama.
I have cats and dogs, and you know, I think
you mentioned that once in one of your videos that
gardeners tend to have.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Pets, because I do.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just think that, you know, we're just inclined to
want to nurture, and you know, the garden just provides
that opportunity to be able to do that, and so,
you know, I really love that. And then you know, finally,
I think has uh As a person of faith, when
I'm in my garden, I see aspects of my faith
reflected all the time, over and over again, you know,
(05:03):
ideas of grace and beauty and patience and life and
death and rebirth and you know, most especially just the
transformative power of sacrificial love. You know, to be a
gardener takes sacrifice. You got to work hard at it,
you fail a lot of times. You've got to give
up other things that you might want to be doing.
(05:24):
And when you do, though, and that garden responds to
what you are bringing to it. It's just it's really
something beautiful and dare I say, sometimes almost sacred. And
so I you know, I have found for me. You know,
being a gardener is it's good for my health. It
(05:46):
keeps me healthy now because you're out there work and
all the time, you know, you get your lots of
your vitamin D and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It's good for your mental energy.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You know, you can disassociate from all the kind of
craziness that's going on in the world and you know,
just focus on you know, eternal things and you know,
and for me, it draws me close to my savior.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
And so you know, being in the garden is.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Just it's it's good for my soul, you know, I'll
say that. It's you know, and hopefully you know as
uh as it gives back to other people it, you know,
it benefits them in those ways too.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I know exactly what you're talking about. When the
garden finally gives back to you, it's like, yeah, yeah,
it's something. It's so special.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It's such a special feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wonder I love it. I love listening to you talk
dem you just it's just so wonderful.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Don't say I babble, They say, mom, you use ten
words when other people only need to.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's what makes you you dead. That's why I love you,
and that's why we want you on a podcast. So,
dev when I went down, gosh, when was that? Was
(07:05):
it April?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, So when I went down to see your garden,
it's a pretty significant garden. You have a big garden,
and you kept showing me things that you had grown
from seed. I'd be like, oh, that's a beautiful flower.
Oh I grew that from seed. Oh I grew that
from seed. And it blew my mind. I could not
(07:29):
believe what you were able to start from seed in
this fairly large garden. So tell me a little bit
about starting starting things from seed. Why do you focus
on starting so much stuff from seed?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, so my garden is about.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I have two acres of property and the vast majority
of it now has some form of garden. Some of
it is still a work in progress, but you know,
it's excuse me, I want to say it's completely established.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But anyways, why do I start things from seed?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
When I originally started developing my garden, I wasn't really
sure what I wanted to do. I didn't know how
to fill all the empty spaces, and I was restricted
on my budget.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was limited on budget and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So it seemed like if I started things from seed one,
it's very cost effective, and there wasn't that commitment to
like if you go out and you buy a five
gallon plant and you send forty five dollars on it
and you PLoP.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
It in the ground. Now, I know you can dig
it up and you can move it somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But it just seemed like, you know, with as variable
as I was and uncertain as I was about how
I wanted to develop everything, seeds just seemed like an
easier way to go. If it did less pure, it
wasn't that big of a deal to just rip it
all out and start over. Yeah, So I did that,
and I also because I didn't know I focused originally
(08:58):
most of my seeds starting to begin with annuals. So
you know, it was this, you know, I started with
at one, They're easy, you know, Zenya's cosmos sunflowers, you know,
on and on and on. They're so easy to grow
from seed, and uh they're done at.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The end of the season, and then you know.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You can figure out, Okay, I like the height of
the sunflowers in that area. I want something permanent that's
kind of sunflower ish, but that's not an annual, you know.
So I kind of played with design elements in my garden,
seeing annuals as a substitute for things that I knew
eventually I was either going to replace with foundational plants
(09:36):
or perennials or you know, blooming evergreens or that kind
of thing. That was kind of my you know, my
thought process and going in and now I am in
the process of you know, uh, transitioning a lot of
the areas that I had with annuals and grow starting
perennials from seeds. So which not to say that I
(09:59):
don't go out and buy plants.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I do go out, yes, we all prison garden.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I do do that, but there is just a particular
satisfaction that comes when you start something from seed and
you you know, you have this tiny little thing that
you can sometimes barely see.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I've got to put my.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Magnifying glous on these days that I'm getting so all
my eyes are going, you know, to figure out is
that seed?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Did that seed really get in the tray? It's all
on the ground, and you know, and that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That kind of that step of faith that you take
when you do that right, you have that sea tray
with all that you know, fresh soil, and you've got
it all crept in everything, and you put these seeds
in it and it's.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Just it just sits there for you know, to put
it on your mat.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You put it under your girl, and you know you're peeking,
like I'm actually.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Get in is it going to grow?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And then but then when those you know, when that
first portlane leaf comes up, you know, and then they
get their first set of true leaves, and you know,
and then you plant it out in the garden and
this thing that was this microscopic little seed becomes this
six foot towering plant.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You know, It's just like what a wonder I can't know?
So you know, the satisfaction and the delight of that.
Just I think I would just encourage anyone even if
you I love to buy plants. I love to go
out and you know that instant gratification. Yeah, I say,
oh my goodness. But there is something special when you
(11:39):
go out and you see something and you you know,
you know, I started that baby from seed.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah. I saw a funny thing on Instagram where somebody said,
if a gardener ever tells you that they started that
plant from seed, they're flexing on you. I was, and
I was like, yeah, absolutely they should.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I'm sorry, I don't flexing.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, no, no, it's a good thing. No, Deb, I'm
saying it's a good thing. You should be flexing because
that you're right, because starting something from seed is so
much more special because you've babed it from that little,
tiny little thing and you grew it up and honestly,
you start a lot of perennials from seed.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Now, right, I do I think.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Starting perennials from seed is even more of a FLEXI
because that's kind of you know, that's kind of tough.
And I do want to say to everybody that Deb,
you start your garden was an empty piece of property.
When you started, like, you didn't even have grass, you
didn't have trees.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, and so to see.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What it's become is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Deb.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We got to take a quick break to hear a
message from our sponsor. When we come back, can we
talk more about like the ins and outs of how
you start seeds and start perennials. Okay, great, we'll be
back in a sec. Okay, Hi everyone, We're back with
a Dig Plant, Watery Peat podcast. I have Deb Cozy
(13:09):
from a Cozy Garden on the podcast today and we
are talking all about starting our gardens from seed. It
is fall and it is time for fall seeds starting,
so Deb, Deb. We've been talking to Deb about starting
a bunch of her garden from seed and how it's
kind of a flex.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's kind of a flex.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So, Deb, when I was down there visiting you in June,
you were talking about your favorite seed supplier. Can you
talk about your favorite seed supplier?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yes, yeah, so I my most favorite, my go to
seed supplier is Swallowtail Seed Company and they are located
here in California. I love supporting, you know, local people
that are in the same county or same state or whatever.
But beyond that, I really love their selection of seeds.
And I also think I got to thinking. I think
(13:59):
that because the seeds are grown in a similar climate,
where both in California, they're a little bit further.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
North than I am.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I wonder if that's, you know, one of the reasons
that I have such success with them, because the seeds
that are being germinated or that are that they are
growing and then shipping out are being grown under the same,
very similar climate conditions and that kind of thing. So
that's not to say that you can't you get seeds
from other areas, but I do wonder sometimes if that's
(14:29):
a reason that I do have such good successful swallowtail.
I also don't I don't shop with them exclusively. I
also love Johnny Seed. Johnny Seed has a particular benefit,
I think, to people that are wanting to first start
out on seed company. If you go on their website,
they have a resource catalog of information that you can do.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
They've got realms and reams and reams.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Of material for whatever seed that you're wanting to start
that gives you all the details.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Sometimes it can be overwhelming, but if you really.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Have your heart set on something for instance, for me,
it was lisianthus. I really wanted to grow Lisianthus is
notoriously known as being a challenging, difficult plant to grow
from seed.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I got to do it. I yet to succeed.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So I went on JET and I get I do
get Johnny seeds is where I get my losiantheses.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
They don't get them from swallowtail. They just have a
better selection of seeds.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And I have followed their information on how to do
it to the letter.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's finicky.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It requires you know knowledge about how to water, what
you want to keep the temperature when they germinate, what
you want to keep the temperature when they first come out,
when you want to plant them out, all of that
kind of stuff. And I've had great success. I've grown
them four years in a row and I have for
this is a flex again, so I want to hear it.
(16:00):
Dads of lousianthus that are just amazing. They're the most gorgeous,
gorgeous scene in the world. So I say that not
to flex. Really you should flex, just to share that, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm going to flex for Deb one more time. Deb
is also a photographer and a an incredible photographer. I
have one of her photographs in my office right now,
right behind me. And the pictures that she takes of
her flowers and lisianthus and puts on Instagram are stunning.
They're absolutely beautiful. So Deb, you flex all you want
(16:34):
about those Lisianthas in your group from seed and the
photographs that you took of you should.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You should absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Flex on them.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Only if that helps others. It does.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But anyways, I share that with Johnny's because it does, uh,
it does helps, it has it has a wealth of information,
so take advantage of that.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And you know, listen to and following the YouTube channel
and there's my flex.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
There's so much information that's available to gardners today if
you want to get started to see.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, that it's just you know, there's no reason not
to do it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
There's no reason. There's no reason not to do it.
It doesn't cost a lot of money. It does cost
a lot of you know, some time, right, it does
take some time, but it's worth it. It's absolutely worth it. Hey, Deb,
We're going to end today's episode here for now, but
please join us on the next episode of Dig Plant
Water Repeat, where we'll continue our conversation and part two
(17:35):
of Fall Seed starting with deb Cozy. I hope you
enjoyed the show, and I hope you have a chance
to get in your garden today. Thank you so much
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(17:56):
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It was written and hosted by me Janie Santos, with
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