December 15, 2025 • 47 mins
DJ Kristyles drops a high-energy episode with viral star Anaya Perry and Atlanta’s own Belly Gang Kushington. Expect laughs, real talk, and unfiltered vibes as they dive into creativity, culture, and the stories behind their journeys.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's another exclusive Chris Styles.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You already know what it is.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
It is your boy DJ Chris Styles holding down, man,
I can listen. One thing about my show I always
like to bring on new artists is tearing up the internet, right,
just tearing up the internet, just killing everything and people.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That got bars too, right, and we got one here
a naya here in the building. What up? Hey blazing?
The internet was good?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Just blessed les.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yes you are.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Tell me when did you start, Like, when did you
start getting to this music business?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I started when I was two years old. That's when
I started rapping. But when it comes to getting into
the music business, I was saying high school, that's when
everything was starting to you know what I'm saying, elevate.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
And so when do you start rapping? The like who
got you to rappings? Like when did you start moving
towards like, hey man, I can do this. What is
it some bums out there that you listened to?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Like, listen, I could do better than that.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Well, my father he used to rap and he had
a studio in a house, So I was always around music.
And of course, with you know what I'm saying, studio
in the house, we being young. I wanted to get
in there. I wanted to try myself. And after that,
I was like, oh yeah, I like this.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It gets good to you caught the bug?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I caught it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, that's dope. So was your dad a rapper or
you just deep into music? Now?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He was a rapper. He was a hip hop hip
hop artist.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, that's dope. That's dope. So what do you get
some of your skills from?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Like where do you get your inspiration from when you
were writing these bars?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Because like you get really rap rap.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I can, Yeah, where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Like we talk about like this time now right when
there's not a lot of rap rappers rapping the rappers
out there, which I love.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I love bars. Where did you get that inspiration from? Well?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Back then Nicki Nach the young money was Lil Wayne Drake.
But the way that Nicki was so barful, I was
like wow, Like it was like double artandres and her music.
I was like, hold on, I got to step my
skills up when I'm writing.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So I just was always writing lyrics and my note
notebook notepad that I had.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Back then, and yeah, just getting better over time and
understanding you know what I'm saying, how to construct a
song for refereal.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And that's dope.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And we'll look at your Instagram and how you releasing
these bars releasing music. How do you feel in this
scope of the music industry now like because of artists
like you with those that type of skill set, I feel.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Like now in the industry is a shift, like people
starting to want that real music. You know what I'm saying,
that expressing how you know what I'm saying you feel
because a lot of people can relate to that. So
it's definitely becoming a shift. People really want the authentic
for music.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So if I asked the question, who is a nine
period and what would three words describe you?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Three words to the describe and now your parent and
you're talking about musically, I would say authentic definitely, Uh, vulnerable,
for real, for real because I'm very vulnerable in my music.
So yes, And I would say the last one I
(03:32):
know is authentic and real but really real and emotional.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I would say, right, And you're you're originally from Norfolk, Virginia, correct, Yes, Norfolk,
Norfolk and in Norfolk, listen Virginia. People sleep on Virginia
when they come to town. When they come to musical
it's so many names that come out of there. And
you talk about being vulnerable, Where does that come from?
Because a lot of artists, when we talk about rappers,
(03:57):
don't want to be that vulnerable. Where did that come
from you when you started writing?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Oh well, I use music to vent, Like I don't
like to talk to people at all, So when it
comes to that, music is the outlet. So if that's
like a way that I can express myself, and then
I realize that people is relating to what I'm going through,
my truth.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
So that's why I say authentic too.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
So it's just like when I'm writing, I gotta just
speak about you know what I'm saying, what's real to me,
And a lot of people really relate to that.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Do you ever get caught up in when you're writing
or you in the studio like man, I gotta make
this hit, I gotta make this record, I gotta make
this club joint. You get caught up in that or
you just put out how you feel at that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Moment back then.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yes, At first, I was like when a studio, I
gotta get a hit, I gotta get a hit. I
gotta get a hit, But the older I got was like, no,
I'm not. I'm done chasing the head. A hit gonna come.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
People choose to head, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
So at this point I'm just gonna put out how
I feel and people so that.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
They rocking with it or not. And lately they've been
rocking with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So and it has been tell us your role out
playing because like you coming up in the era of
internet and social media, how has you shifted your marketing
plan or or way to get your music out lack
of better.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Terms, social media content marketing, that's like the best form
to really reach a lot of people for real, for real.
So pretty much my how when I do the rollout
is really focusing on content marketing for real.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And so have you ever have you found have you
been to one of the moments when you make it
like if people just not catching on? Cause you get
that moment with there a moment when you started off
like and people is not understanding what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh yeah, plenty of times back then it was like, man,
I know my song, dope, ain't nobody liking it?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Reposting it, sharing, it.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I was like, oh man, at first I thought I
was tripping, but sometimes when you just stay in your lane,
people would to you they will eventually, And.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So what gets you through that moment? Those moments?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Oh my family for referral, because it'd be sometimes I'll
be like, man, I don't even want to do this
for referral, but you know what I'm saying. They bring
me back to reality and remind me that, uh uh,
you really hurt for referral.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So it's family. They helped me get through a lot
for real.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That village, it's all. Everybody needs a village, you do.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
You definitely need somebody by your side to really, like
when you feel in loss, to play that light for
you to get you back on track.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So we hear Alive with an Nina Perry like a
dope MC. I could call her an MC because that's
what she is.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
She's an MC.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
H what's your songwriting or creative process? Like, like, do
you start with a beat lyrics mood?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yeah, so I start with a beat at first, So
I go through like a whole bunch of beats and
YouTube type beats too, So a lot of people don't
have to sit there and think gotta go, uh, get
a producer to make a beat for you really YouTube,
listen to something, feel the vibe. And then once I
got the vibe and I start doing like humming, and
then after humming, I go from there with lyrics.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And you were starting to build a big following online,
right You're starting to come up and really really big.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What what is the most the weirdest thing that happened
to you so far?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Since like this it's started you starting to get known
across the nation, Any weird stuff that went on? I
just like to ask that question like online, like, well,
hold up, hold up, I expect this when I got
to this point.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
MM, anything weird. I wouldn't say weird, but I would
say amazing. How like my music make people want to
DM me their whole story, Like sometimes I feel like
I'm a therapist, Like hold on, So yeah, it's not
even weird. It's just amazing that my music make a
person really just want to open up to me. So
it's like, oh, yeah, that's dope, that is dope.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Did so you respond like, because I know your numbers
are growing up, how many of those dms do you
respond to?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
I try to respond to most but you already know
that's not that's not really like reasonable. But yeah, I
try to respond to what I see pretty much, so
people know that.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Human too, I'm not like, no, stuck up bojie person,
I'm going to respond if I see it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Or you gonna be part of my rap song? What
of the other Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, you might be an inspiration to one of them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, yes, that's probably one of the best things.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Have you had that moment where because I don't have
the moments as a DJ where somebody like, yo, I
watch you send this.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You inspired me to be a DJ?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like, have you had that moment like you inspired me
to wrap for me and the young Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It's a lot of people in my comments, especially Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
but doing its own thing too. I'll be looking up
on looking into comments and people be saying you you
inspire me to like want to do music too, like
I can do.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It, And I'm like, yes, you can. It's unstoppable, nobody
can stop you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You got it absolutely. Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
One of the best things that I think for you
is you grew up in the industry. Per se you said,
I grew up in the industry college because your dad
did it, so you kind of knew a little bit
about the industry because he had to record. And this
goes to the next question I have for you. What's
the biggest lesson you learned so far in this industry?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Be yourself? You know what I'm saying. A lot of
people don't be truly who they are. You know what
I'm saying. I feel like I learned that. Yeah, just
be authentic to who you are. People gonna love you
for you, for real. You don't gotta pretend. You don't
gotta flex, you don't gotta like act like you this,
act like you that. Nah, people gonna love you for you,
So just be you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And that could probably go to my next question. What
advice was you giving in younger artists looking up to you?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Don't compete, don't compare. Stay in your own lane, don't
you know what I'm saying. Look at other people how
what's working for them and think it's gonna work for you.
Just stay in your lane, Because you know what I'm saying,
they say like it's a pull full of sharks, you
know what I'm saying. So when you in your own
ain't nobody in your in your lane for real, for real.
So you know what I'm saying, People gonna gravitate to
who you are. You don't got to be nobody else.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What's the most So have you been on tour yet?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I did a college tour I believe last year.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And how is that feeling going on tour?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I was amazing just seeing the crowd, how they was
receptive to the music and minds you. Some people knew me,
some people didn't. But once they heard the music and
they was listening to the lyrics, they started waving hands.
They were getting the sight. I was like, oh man, yeah,
some you know the energy they feel the energy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And your performance. Do you cut the music off so
to gear the bars? Like, oh, DJ, let me just
the grip this real quick.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I got caught in a moment where DJ just did
that and I just kept going with it.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I was he surprised me. I don't be telling the
DJ to drop the beat, but they just love to
drop the beat.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And now that gets the crowd even hype when they
can really hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
God, I think it's dope because I really think like
you really got bars of your wraps. So for you
to go out there and silent and let them hear
everything that you've got to say. I think that's a
really dope thing. And that goes to this next question.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Why is the.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Female since the female since twenty sixteen, maybe a year
before that, year or two before that, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Been because of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Almost the last ten years, the women been carrying.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They've been carrying the ball. I just see that part.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I don't even know, but I just know that it's
a lot of females doing their thing though, like coming
at different directions, different styles, different swags. It's just like,
oh man, the females is eating them up.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's cool, We're.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Gonna keep caring it. I love.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So it goes to you, why are the the women?
The female rappers are really rapping now, like they rap.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Mm hm, they rapping, and you got some that's going
into melodic traps. So I just feel like now a
lot of people are stepping their game up because at
first it was a male dominant industry, but I feel
like females is now dominating in so many different ways,
and it's they're calling for the females for refere We're
doing our thing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm loving it. I'm loving that as DJ. It makes
it makes it easier for me, it does, it trusts me,
it does. I want to do the party in the club.
Mm hm, I run.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I could run the whole set, the whole hour or
two with just all women rappers and the.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Crowd gonna be turned the whole time.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Here it is. That's the whole point. I'm telling you
guys all the time. I'm a DJ for you, not
at all. Sorry, sorry to tell you. Listen.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I got a couple of questions for you, and you
can ask them how you want to uh your dream feature.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Dead or dead or oh that's a good one. That's
a good one. Dead or live?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
You just want one and you can give me whoever
you're go ahead, go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I would definitely say for alive.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It would have to be. I want a future with Drake.
I do definitely want a future with Drink. I think
that would be a dope collapse and h aliyah mm hmmm,
that would be with her on the hook. That would
be crazy. Definitely want Nikki for sure, Nicki Minaj, definitely
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on the track. And I would say for the for
the last one.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Oh, I love yeah, yeah, yeah, I think is still underrated.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
He is, And I'm happy to get a lot of
people getting like receptive music because he'd be speaking that
real stuff too.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He does, he does. I love That's that's a good
list that Leah got me. That's a good one. That's good.
What's what's on your playlist right now?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
If I go through your phone and take your phone,
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna put on Spotify title whatever
you use, I'm gonna see what's your playlist right now?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
So I don't be listening to a lot of rap music.
I'll be listening to a lot of R and B.
Just the vibe so to her lm a uh, I
love in some little dirt Raloh, definitely, Hancho. You gotta Beyonce,
that's on my The list just keeps going and going
and going.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Save man.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I listen to a lot of R and B now too.
It's kind of that's I don't know. I just listen
a lot of R and B?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Where is that right now? For me? For me?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
For me as worries that if you're doing if you
weren't doing music, what would you be doing instead?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'll be doing real estate.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I like or into the into the airbnb business, because
I was looking into that before, and that's it interests me,
just flipping homes. If so, if I wasn't doing music,
I'll be flipping some homes.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm gonna be doing that anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Whatever whatever fund you got coming in from music, I'm
pretty sure you're gonna be doing that anyway.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You gotta have multiple different bags.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You hear me, absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So now you're creating you in your creating process, you
you listen to the bead, listen to the you about
to start writing lyrics?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What are them must have in your studio session.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Some snacks and the sweet tea come kind of you like?
I like hot chips.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I like the sour cheddar, sour cream.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Uh, ruffles, you know what I'm talking about. Uh, I'm
really a chips girl. I'm not a chocolate girl. I
love I love some chips.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's some chips.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Don't tell me out there eating them them, fire them
hot chips, them hot fretos or the flaming hot cheetos.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I love them with some sweet tea, spicy, the spicy,
the ritos.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
How do you get your redness off your fingers that
lasts bout four or five days.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, you gotta just keep washing your hands.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Like you could never do a type of crime on
anything with that. Like follow the hot free those cheetos.
Let just follow that. The girl loves her chips.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
One word to describe your energy this year and your
energy for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
My energy is no mercy. You know what I'm saying,
applying pressure everything. You know what I'm saying from the
losses I took back then being naive, it's showing no mercy.
Stand on what I stand on, what I believe.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Is right is that's the direction I'm going. Trusting my
gut this time.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
This listen, you got to trust your gut whatever you do.
And now Perry is in the building. Let's talk about
these new projects that you got coming up. What we
got coming. We're in the fourth quarter, We pull it up.
Are you dropping in the first fourth quarter?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I just dropped my new single called No More Chances,
So right now, I mean that song, one of my
favorite songs right now, just because that's the energy that
I said, no mercy is what it's given. And yes,
that's the fourth We're gonna We're gonna have another track too.
I also got a track that I dropped before, No
more chance.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's called time for It. So y'all go check that out.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
All of these is on all platforms, all streaming platforms, Spotify, Apple, YouTube,
and they out right now.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And make sure you check her Instagram because it drop
some bars in case somebody I'm been asking for this.
I know Fabulous and Fablus does it every now and then.
I know Jeyakins does it every now and then.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I need and you got the ball.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I need somebody to take these thap back boom back
beats and just make a freestyle mixtape.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Just don't got me, don't got me.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Something can be a minute and a half of a
freestyle and just make records.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, that that would be something to remember. That'd be crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Actually, I think you should do that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I think you should grab everybody beat that is fire
and just like Harry, this is for the fast.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm just letting you know this is bars.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's it. That's that's why I want to wait for
somebody with bars to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Okay, you've just had like do it.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I'm just saying, all right, just grab these beats the
fire beats from whenever, back when to now and you
just rip them, you just tear them apart like the
old little Wayne fifty used to do.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Right, take take these records. I'm just gonna make the minds.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, I think you can do it.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
It's not I think I know I can. You mix
it with my own flavor, you know what I'm saying.
But I feel you bring the old back to the
new kind of make it, merge it together, and you
know what I'm saying, people will go crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Absolutely absolutely, So what is your day to day practice,
practice practice now? Because I'm pretty sure you're not working
out right. I'm pretty sure this is just doing music
full time. Yes, So what is your day to day
process when you're waking up anymore? Like I wake up
and do the regular brush your teeth, do all that shower.
Then what's next?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Well, pretty much like I like, I got my own
home recording studio, so I definitely love to record. And
when I record it, do be taking time to really
search for a beach, really hone in on where I'm
trying to go and with directions. I'm trying to go
what I want people to feel when I do certain
things with the music also with my mom. My mom
was like she really she's my manager. Sorry for stuff,
(20:00):
she's my manager. So we sit together, we talk about plans, goal,
She feel my content. We do a lot of content
to my songs to post on Instagram. So the stuff
that you see on my Instagram, she shot it. So
that's pretty much my.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Day to day.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It's starting new ways to push out my stuff to
more people.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Let's stop that mom is the manager. She went like,
know what we do it is together.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yes, I love it too in the family. So it's
just like, yes, I trust you. You feel me so
I know she got my back and everything we do
we do it together.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
For real. What what do you do?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And I don't know how much time you got, so
just let me know how much time you got.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
What do you say to.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The people who seen you in high school junior high
and they see you now, say that one time like
the people you passed that you've seen in high school
right that you're seeing now they see.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You like oh no you oh snap, Like how is
that feeling?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Oh I feel?
Speaker 5 (21:00):
So I had a couple of DM they was like, man,
I remember you from you know what I'm saying back
back back then they're just like, I'm proud of you
because you're doing your thing for real, real. So it
do shock people to see, you know what I'm saying,
the person they went to school with really just out here,
really doing it for real, real and really elevating while
doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah. Did did they know back then that you were
doing it?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I feel like they did because back then I did skits,
and when I did in that area, the videos was
going viral each time, and I was actually my classmates
were participating in my videos too, so we would be
not in class, we would be in the hallways doing
some skits.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Is it any artists in Virginia you would like to
collabor with?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes, I forgot his name because I just came across him.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
He was he had did this like rap battle thing
in atl And. I realized that he was from Norfolk,
so we tapped in. But I forget, I definitely forgot
his name.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Not gonna well, and that's the Listen. I appreciate you
take your time out with me. I'm a huge supporter.
So anything you need, let me know, I got you.
Trust me, you got bars, and I think you're very talented.
Anything you want to live to people of Cleveland and
to the world.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yes that y'all can follow me on all social media
platforms at Anaya Underscore Perry and a n A y
A Underscore pe r r y And I'm an upcoming
artist that's making some noise out in Northern Virginia. So
make sure y'all tune in because it's only getting bigger
and bigger and bigger and bigger. And be a part
of the journey for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Be a part of the journey.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Listen is the DJ Christyal Shore. I appreciated nin Perry
coming on. You already know what it is.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Here's another exclusive Chris Styles.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
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can say what you want to say and if we
were playing on the radio, edit everything out.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
But I wanted to raw and uncut.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
This guy for the last two years, uh took this
game by storm, started taking a series two years ago.
But he said he's been making songs in his head
since he was born.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
This is that's what he said is out of his mouth.
When we say.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Bringing Atlanta back, we talk about bringing that raw Atlanta
music back, talking about bringing those lyrics back, bringing life
music back, bringing back telling the real there's no capping
in this music. Everybody give it a one time for
Billy Gang Cush because that's what he.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Wanted to be called.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah, my research a little bit.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I'm good man. I love Ohio Bro.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
And your The response to your music is crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Right now, Yes, sir, tell me about this, this this
quick movement to start them, because if you think about
the first time that you really took a serious, like
that day you made that decision to say, hey, I
A'm taking this serious cause it's.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
About that time I got my kid, I stopped doing
what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I need to turn this hustle to this music game.
And two years later that you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Hear man, that I really think is like I ain't
saying like it always been like that for me, but
like my focus and my execution and my diligence so turned.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Really, whatever you work at, Bro, if you got a
clear mind on it, like it's gonna work. You know
what I mean. It's with anybody in anything, you know
what I mean? Because just because you grinding hard that
song don't mean that's what's spoiled to happen, right, The
first thing, the first step is takes to be like, Okay,
do this makes sense. That's the first point of diligence,
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you know what I mean, when you figure that shit out,
like you go, you know what I'm saying, to go.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And every interview that on that you have the same
message in the same drive.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
And part of that drive is I know what your son.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Being on the spectrum and sending through a different lens
now of being that dad.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
So you like you have to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I got to, Like I think that helped me
for real though, Like I don't really want to like
preach the wrong thing to the kids, but like a
plan be really ain't needed, you know what I mean.
If you gotta plan be, like you might fuck around
and have that in the back of your head. Like
for me, it was just like, bro, I can't go
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back to doing the other ship because I'm so hot,
like when the rat started working a little bit, like
my face was too hot to do what I So
it's just like this gotta work, you know what I'm saying.
I wake up every day knowing this gotta work. Like
I'm not even thinking if it's gonna work, or if
it might work or nothing, It's gonna work, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
That was it for sure?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Exactly, it's gonna work.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's gonna go down.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And I think that inspiration of that work ethic that
you have because you said you was a hustler one
hundred dollars white teas you were selling just just getting
out the mud, and you just turned it into the
wrap part of it. What what surprised you about this
right game? Like anything surprised you about.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It surprised me. I ain't really surprised me, you know
what I mean. I would say that you gotta think
like I think any other thing you do. Like you
you're gonna have to have no time to make a
lot of money. You're not gonna have no personal time.
(26:46):
So I already knew that, you know what I'm saying,
But now I would probably say what surprised me is
I don't really get tired of it like I would
have been got tired of somebody now And it's like
it's really my calling, Like it's crazy to live in
blitch like that. Like you know, people say, like what
you put on the earth for? And it just like
I've been knew I really would find against doing this
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for so long, doing the wrong thing. So now being
in this is just like I don't get tired of this.
I get to wake up every day and do this again,
even though it's hard work, and even though I don't
get the clock out, even though I'm missing other stuff,
but like it's crazy, like I know this what I'm
here for.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Yeah exactly. That that that kind of surprised me, Like
it's really what I here for.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
What's the next adventure exactly, next move exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I think Another thing is is when we get into
the pivot to your music, when I listen to it
and you can hear of very authentic ya, like this
is what I live, This is my life exactly, And
I think that's what the game is missing, right, is Okay,
how do I relate or people listen to like, how
(27:58):
do we relate to this person?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yo?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Yoah?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think like in real life, me and the people
around me, like we kind of like people attract us,
like when they come around there, like they don't never
wanna leave off around there cause like we being ourself,
Like if somebody file it's funny like we're gonna laugh,
like i'm'na laugh at myself, Like I'm gonna say, I
feel like you know what I'm saying and all that.
So being yourself is always attractor. So like on the track,
(28:23):
it just on being myself, you know what I'm saying.
I know some of the stuff, it's stuff that people
probably never related to, but they can feel like, ig he,
that's real.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
You know what I mean. You can go check it,
you can go see it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And then a lot of this stuff is stuff people
would be scared to say about theyself, So like why
would he say, you know what I'm saying, like nigga,
come in on my post and cor my son and retard.
You know what I'm saying Like that, That's that's real life.
That's what I go through in real life, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
At what point did did you know that it was you?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Was you just made you in the door?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Like what point when you was making this when we
start putting out your first track and then you like
you heard it like oh I'm in the door now.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Uh, I don't think it was a point cause like
I say, like I said the other day, like it
seemed like every move men, my members of money. They
made it felt like a h ah a, A couple
more bricks got added. So it ain't never just no
one food, you know what I'm saying, Like it was
just straight up like okay, we strategically building building, build
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and building b and then you look back you got
the whole house, you know what I mean. And then
even right now, like it be it be it be
certain accolades, you know what I mean, That we get
but it just like I could do it again. I
need to do that again, or I need to do
it better or you know what I'm saying, Like yeah,
so I don't never really wanna ever feel that to
be honest, like right, you know what I'm saying, Like
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that woulda gonna take to be the best. I don't
never wanna feel like, Okay, I'm here now, you know
what I mean, Like right, unless I get to the
point where it's like I don't retire from this and
I'm just coming back for the spoiler.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
But now that's different. But like right now, man, I'm
trying to be the best. Like I mean that I
love it.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think onether thing I love looking into your story
is how you grew up and how you take those
life lessons and you apply it to what you're doing
right now, because it's the growth, and I think it's
for me just redo. It is a quick growth for me.
For you it might be long, but for me just
reading and see how you pivoted so quickly, it's that growth.
(30:29):
And then you can hear it in your music from
one song to the next. Where where did that growth
come from? We'll let the people know where the growth
come from?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Whoever research I think, I think they came from just
being knowing how to pivot and having that uh their
vision where you know, vision is really and when I
say vision, I ain't saying like all seen in my
room one day and I could see myself performing in
front of one hundred thousand people every night.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
That ain't no vision.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Vision is when you come to a fork in the road,
how far to see down both on the road? Which
one I need to go, then the next one, then
the next. I need to open this door. I need
to close this dough right here in front of me.
You know, people think about the one hundred thousand people
concert and don't even know how to maneuver with the
five hundred dollars show. That's the vision, you know what
I mean? So just really knowing how to pivot and
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knowing how to have their vision, Like you gotta think
like I'm getting money in this over here they're cool.
But I had the vision to come to this fork
in the road where it's like it ain't no money
in route, spending money in route, so you know what
I mean, Like I had the vision to know like
there's still the route to go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
So that's that fork like you seeing I think you
said your grandfather was a pamp.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Your dad was a hustler too. You had an uncle
that did some things.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
I was hustling and you seeing the money it was
around it.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, the real hustles on the street. They wouldn't mess
with the rappers. You were seeing that you hit this
fourth I have to go down this road spend a
lot of money. I may not get it back right away,
or I can still take this road and know I'm
gonna get it.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, that thought of there was a talk about that
part of that growth. Yeah, what click or did you
just foreseeing your life?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I really I really had ben new going the rat
way was the right way. But you gotta think, man,
you you got doubt right, you know what I'm saying,
You got you got, it's a lot of stuff in it.
And then you got who you around, your everyday motion,
your bills, your kid Like Bro, you gotta think bro
having house over here, coned over here, uh uh uh
(32:41):
two three cars? I got a son who artist, this
ship costs here every week. Uh, you know, I had
a lot to up keep.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Bro and.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Me and my manager, Like the first conbo we ever
had on the phone, like ever the first thing got
hit me out? Will you know you can make enough
money off rap soon just at least pay your bills. Right,
That's where it kind of helped me the most when
he said that car was like, damn, I'm worrying about
getting I'm worrying about how to get to the means,
When in I reality, if I could focus on just
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making two thousand a monk on rap, I can then
focus straight on wrap to make move.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
And that's literally how it worked out, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
On But yo, man, that that that that that that
was that was a big that was this rap was
the hardest thing I ever had to do other than
having my son, like and really buggling down and being
a dad, getting out the street enough to even be
a dad. But like, other than that, it's the hardest
thing I ever had to do, bro, Like people need
rehab for this, not even rap, like say you go
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to you go to prison, like you come home, you
get right back to it. Like for somebody to be
able to walk away from the streets, Like we need
rehab for that because like that's a drug.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
For real.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You wake up every day noring this a ten thousand
dollars play. You mean tell me I'm finna walk away
from ten thousand when I needed team, and then I
got three four most set up, Like you know how
hard they is to walk away from, especially when you
don't perfect your craft on it, Like that's hard, brouh.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
And I did it though, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And I just started seeing how many less problems I
had all day, you know what I'm saying. On I
really don't even care about material things no more. I
ain't really care about material things then, but I still
felt like I need this, So I need this spider.
I need that, bro, Like real talk, Bro, it's I
don't run around here interact with four five hundred thousand
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dollars and didn't even have a spot. They ain't even
have a car, didn't have no jury rock clothes one time.
Just leave it there like it really was just my
body walking around like I had got to the point,
don't even care, like you know what I'm saying, right,
obviously I had to get a central spot in a car,
and you know what I mean, But I ain't. I
don't even care about that no more like I'm living
(34:52):
in a whole another different blisch right now.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Different world at different times.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And now you're senior, So so let's let's kick it
to your music man. When you first when you when
you focus on.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
It and and you locked and and you locked in
with your manager.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
What direction did you know you wanted to go, because
you could go different ways? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, depending
where where you want to slat yourself in in the lane.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I mean, we had we had detailed talks about, Look,
we can go there route, you know what I'm saying,
But that might not last long.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
We can go that route. That's that's that's gonna be
a long road, but it gonna last long. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I think we just kind of got to a
point where it was just like not even a conversation
no more. It's just like, bro, we just gonna go
in here and be ourselves. Song gonna come out there,
and then we're gonna pick where we put out in
boom boom like and that's how it is now, Like
we ain't that jelight friend do my biggest song. We
didn't say, hey you need a girl song, or hey
we need a strip claw song. We said, hey, go
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in there, just made what you make, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
And that was just one that we.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Picked, you know, I mean hits that way right, It's
not the one song that you thought it was. I
got this record all of a sudden, is the one
that picks.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Up exactly exactly and to go.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I think one of the favorite songs I have, I
think it's.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Uh Kim, Is it called Kim Kanye's Wife? Yeah? Yeah,
yoh yeah. That was probably my favorite song when we
dropped the album too.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
That's a good record, good record. I love the introduction too.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I just think I love the way that you slide
on the beat.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Now do you pick pick your.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Own beats because yeah, for sure, because because here's.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
The only other rapper that it's some other ones.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
But I really think the beat is Rick Ross in
production is always and when I listen to your music,
it reminds me of that your production that you took.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
You take a real point of view of my production.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, facts, I think Ross know how to do that
for sure. He knows how to say this a Rick
Ross beat. But you know what's crazy if you really
know how to pick beats, you know how to say
this a Rick Ross beat, right that anybody could say
this is a Rick Ross beat. But then it's a
pocket to beat you could pick where it's like, this
(37:13):
beat is great for Rick Ross. But unconsciously the people
wouldn't even think that without me being on it. I
think that's the pocket that make them songs like you
know what I mean, Like, you gotta pick it form.
You can't be like, oh, Rick ROSSI sound good on
the beat, you know what I'm saying. Y, you gotta
be like, I know how to fit myself in their beat,
and then when they hit this shit, it gonna sound like.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You know what I'm saying, And this shit's crazy.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
When I listen to your production, the way you rap
and flow.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Where did you get that for?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like?
Speaker 8 (37:40):
What was your some of your inffluences. I think when
you said Roco.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Was one of them.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you the truth. Y obviously rock
O g t on Jroke, That's what I grew up on.
But i'm'a tell you the truth. I wouldn't be sitting
here today if.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
I wasn't okay.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
So Like, I used to make music just like everybody
body else whatever was going on at the time. It
was like crump music or or auto tune and all that, right.
But I had one day we had did song where
I was like, I'm gonna just i'ma just do it
in my regular voice, and I'm gonna just i'ma just rap,
like I ain't gonna I ain't gonna try to make
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a song just rap. And I rapped the song and
it was like kind of like high rap. It was
like high rap now, but I.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
Sat with it. I was like this trash, like nobodys
gonna listen to there.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
But one day I was riding down fort in industry,
no license, no insurance, no tag, speed like a motherfuckers,
a stripper in a passenger seat, her friend in the back.
We geeked up, we drunk, we swerved and I got
a gun and all that. I'm so geek. I put
the wrong song on trying to play it on my
(38:50):
new song. I put that song on. Man, they turned
up so crazy, like who it is?
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Woo?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
And I'm like the next day I asked her like,
I was like, hey, yin' yein't you for real by
that song? She was like, you need to do that,
like that's your voice, like that show that's what gonna
make you stand out. And it's crazy case, Like you
know what I'm saying. I was young and wild back then,
but like it's crazy cal Like ever since that day,
I stuck with building that and honding into that craft
(39:17):
right there.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
And she don't even know. I don't even know who
that is, Like she don't even know wherever she at now.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah, but that's the first thing when I listen to
your music, That's the first thing I said, Like, it's
the voice and the style he's rapping. And it did
make me rip it this of the outcast and the
big and the big gips and all them guys U
g k's and like, oh he is rapping, rapping, yeah,
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with bars.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
With substance everything, And I say, yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yo, fact, yeah fact.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
And I always took a liking to real life music,
like you know, you got reality TV reality music, you
know what I mean, Like the Little Boosy, you know
what I mean, And people like that like baby Mom,
Baby Mama, I'm tired of you. I know, he was
tired of his baby moment that day. You see what
I'm saying. That's why I feel its own, you know
what I mean. So like here Ya always took a
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liking of that type of music. I just tried to
like figure out how to make that as universally as possible,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Now that let's pivot to this way. I'm listening to
a lot of your interviews and you talking about survivors remorse. Yeah, right,
And and then it happens. I know, Helf could talk
about it a little bit. I know everybody pretty much
in this room can talk about even though I can
talk about a little bit that to success that all
of a sudden people start looking at try to look
at you differently. They all at the biggest line and say.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
You didn't change.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
Yeah, fact.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
The situation changed, but you didn't change. It's just the
people around you from where you started now and then
now have you lost some people of your group? Did
you look at him like, yeah, this ain't as I
move up on this totem pole.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yo, Man, you know what I like to like sit
around and think about stuff like that, and I just
you know what I went to thinking, it ain't even
they fault. Obviously it ain't my fault, but it ain't
they fault. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
They They ain't ready to change in their journey. So
why am I mad? Why am I mad?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Because they don't understand that they act different towards me
when in our reality we missed on that level. I
can't even be mad if d ain't there in their journey,
you know what I mean. And then on top of that, like, man,
so I'm so lawyer of a person like bro. You
could do something for me. Man, I'm talking about you
could be a tree jain me shade. I'm gonna be
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lawyer forever. I'm water forever. So it like that kind
of hurt, you know what I mean. But at the
end of the day, man, as long as you're doing
right and you know, what I'm saying, like, long as
you have that.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Village though, I'm gonna say this because on the mental
health aspect, we don't talk about that a lot about
and hip hopped them mental aspect.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
The mental health aspect of it. But do you have
that village?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Do you have that?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I know I'm gonna go look and I need to
go over here and talk. Yeah, gonna look at you
as Belly Game. They gonna look at you as your original.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
That's really that's really the only people around me. Like
if you get that, you get to acting like I'm
talking to Belly Gang like that's dead, Like I need
for who we We we equal, like all my bros
and ship like we all equal, Like you know what
I'm saying. It's even like bros who got money and
whole other situations. That's like we just coming together and
you know what I'm saying, Like he rapped, you know
what I mean, I do this, he wrapped Like yeah,
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but even like my members, especially my team that I
work with every day, like we all equal, Like they
joned on me the same way, Jone.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, we got Belly Gang cushion the building and did
you drop the album what six months ago?
Speaker 7 (42:55):
Yo, oh April. I keep saying made we dropping in April.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
And it just first one, two, the highest one, number
seventh on the chart, seven on the chart. I mean,
that's your first one with no features, no feature. That's
crazy and you didn't you did it? Read up a
little bit later you got features on there.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
But that's crazy. They think about that. It's not a
lot of people can drop an album. They first one,
all of a sudden it shoots up with no label
behind it.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah for sure, no major lad We got l vr
N my yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, my my distribution. But
like man to be younger, man, No folks move like
a powerhouse, you.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Like, it surprised me that only that few amount of
folks get all this ship done like this. Like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (43:40):
They really inspire me, bro, Like I really want to
be like them.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Dope.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Think about them is how they started off in more
of an R and B world and then they started
to shift into broaden the horizon was a five is
five former promoters.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
Yeah yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
They stared crazy, man, they need to make a move
about it. But we're crazy I don't even really think that.
I just think whatever they do, it's other ship they
do that you don't even know that. I wouldn't even
say on the podcast, but like whatever they do, that
ship just turn the gold, you know what I mean.
So I don't even I just think it was a
choice not to fuck rap, you know what I mean.
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Now they want to fuck roun, you know what I mean.
Like whatever they do that shit they're gonna fly. Like
you know what I'm saying, you would.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
Have grouped great group of people.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And so with the number one, well close to number one,
and your first one, do you feel that the pressure
now for your second because I know you got something
geared up?
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Yo yo yo oh.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
No, I don't really think like in numbers for real,
cause you gotta think like I got certain.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
Songs that.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
That don't even perform good streaming, but like every person
that walk up say they're my favorite song, you know
what I'm saying. I don't even think nowadays at this
point we can pinpoint where the buzzs that with them numbers,
you know what I mean. Like at the end of
the day, obviously, you know I'm gonna tell you the
best way to pinpoint it, ride around your city and
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see you playing it or not, see if they playing
it at the red light or not.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
You know what I mean. But ya, no, I ain't
got no, I ain't got no pressure for that. Man.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I'm actually doing what I want to do and what
I love to do. And I do this ship for free.
I put this ship out for free if I could.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I've been telling health about that when I'm DJ and
I'm like, I do that for free most of for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You always looking at me like.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Nah, belly games in the building.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Man.
Speaker 8 (45:33):
I appreciate you coming up man, blessing our city and
the mid West.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
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brick white tees, hunt all the white cheese.
Speaker 6 (45:43):
That's that's that's one hundred dollar boy.
Speaker 7 (45:45):
Yes, matter of fact, they sold a lot so that.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir, it's probably gonna end up with
my wife hand because that's what you do and everything.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I love your movement, I love your story. I think
will really touch me because I work with kids. That
was on the spectrum for fifteen years, so like I
understand who you go through.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
When you say you got a patient, you gotta do this.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
You gotta be that like yeah, like right now, he
not he don't want to use the bathroom. Sorry, I
don't know what he you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's one of those one of the things that is
is an everyday process that eventually it will come yep,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
So I understand when you say that, like that touched
my heart up.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Like yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, he gets it.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Uh, belly gain is in the building, man, Like we
call belly game cush us the hottest thing out right now.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
And I see your future that you you're really gonna.
Speaker 7 (46:39):
You're gonna appreciate that, appreciate that you're coming up here. Yes, sir,
you too.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
All I point down f M were out of here.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
Oh yeah, I can't. Yeah, that was that bes one
we don't did on the radio.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Jeff Sean was good, but this one.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
Was there is one we don't need in with radio
period with radioun
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So I probably could have Probably you fucking wouldn't the
best against d J Chris Styles
Here's another exclusive Chris Styles.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You already know what it is.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
It is your boy DJ Chris Styles holding down, man,
I can listen. One thing about my show I always
like to bring on new artists is tearing up the internet, right,
just tearing up the internet, just killing everything and people.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That got bars too, right, and we got one here
a naya here in the building. What up? Hey blazing?
The internet was good?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Just blessed les.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yes you are.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Tell me when did you start, Like, when did you
start getting to this music business?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
I started when I was two years old. That's when
I started rapping. But when it comes to getting into
the music business, I was saying high school, that's when
everything was starting to you know what I'm saying, elevate.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
And so when do you start rapping? The like who
got you to rappings? Like when did you start moving
towards like, hey man, I can do this. What is
it some bums out there that you listened to?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Like, listen, I could do better than that.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Well, my father he used to rap and he had
a studio in a house, So I was always around music.
And of course, with you know what I'm saying, studio
in the house, we being young. I wanted to get
in there. I wanted to try myself. And after that,
I was like, oh yeah, I like this.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It gets good to you caught the bug?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I caught it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, that's dope. So was your dad a rapper or
you just deep into music? Now?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He was a rapper. He was a hip hop hip
hop artist.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, that's dope. That's dope. So what do you get
some of your skills from?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Like where do you get your inspiration from when you
were writing these bars?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Because like you get really rap rap.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I can, Yeah, where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Like we talk about like this time now right when
there's not a lot of rap rappers rapping the rappers
out there, which I love.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I love bars. Where did you get that inspiration from? Well?
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Back then Nicki Nach the young money was Lil Wayne Drake.
But the way that Nicki was so barful, I was
like wow, Like it was like double artandres and her music.
I was like, hold on, I got to step my
skills up when I'm writing.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So I just was always writing lyrics and my note
notebook notepad that I had.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Back then, and yeah, just getting better over time and
understanding you know what I'm saying, how to construct a
song for refereal.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And that's dope.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And we'll look at your Instagram and how you releasing
these bars releasing music. How do you feel in this
scope of the music industry now like because of artists
like you with those that type of skill set, I feel.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Like now in the industry is a shift, like people
starting to want that real music. You know what I'm saying,
that expressing how you know what I'm saying you feel
because a lot of people can relate to that. So
it's definitely becoming a shift. People really want the authentic
for music.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So if I asked the question, who is a nine
period and what would three words describe you?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Three words to the describe and now your parent and
you're talking about musically, I would say authentic definitely, Uh, vulnerable,
for real, for real because I'm very vulnerable in my music.
So yes, And I would say the last one I
(03:32):
know is authentic and real but really real and emotional.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I would say, right, And you're you're originally from Norfolk, Virginia, correct, Yes, Norfolk,
Norfolk and in Norfolk, listen Virginia. People sleep on Virginia
when they come to town. When they come to musical
it's so many names that come out of there. And
you talk about being vulnerable, Where does that come from?
Because a lot of artists, when we talk about rappers,
(03:57):
don't want to be that vulnerable. Where did that come
from you when you started writing?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Oh well, I use music to vent, Like I don't
like to talk to people at all, So when it
comes to that, music is the outlet. So if that's
like a way that I can express myself, and then
I realize that people is relating to what I'm going through,
my truth.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
So that's why I say authentic too.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
So it's just like when I'm writing, I gotta just
speak about you know what I'm saying, what's real to me,
And a lot of people really relate to that.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Do you ever get caught up in when you're writing
or you in the studio like man, I gotta make
this hit, I gotta make this record, I gotta make
this club joint. You get caught up in that or
you just put out how you feel at that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Moment back then.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yes, At first, I was like when a studio, I
gotta get a hit, I gotta get a hit. I
gotta get a hit, But the older I got was like, no,
I'm not. I'm done chasing the head. A hit gonna come.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
People choose to head, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
So at this point I'm just gonna put out how
I feel and people so that.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
They rocking with it or not. And lately they've been
rocking with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So and it has been tell us your role out
playing because like you coming up in the era of
internet and social media, how has you shifted your marketing
plan or or way to get your music out lack
of better.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Terms, social media content marketing, that's like the best form
to really reach a lot of people for real, for real.
So pretty much my how when I do the rollout
is really focusing on content marketing for real.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And so have you ever have you found have you
been to one of the moments when you make it
like if people just not catching on? Cause you get
that moment with there a moment when you started off
like and people is not understanding what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh yeah, plenty of times back then it was like, man,
I know my song, dope, ain't nobody liking it?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Reposting it, sharing, it.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I was like, oh man, at first I thought I
was tripping, but sometimes when you just stay in your lane,
people would to you they will eventually, And.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So what gets you through that moment? Those moments?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Oh my family for referral, because it'd be sometimes I'll
be like, man, I don't even want to do this
for referral, but you know what I'm saying. They bring
me back to reality and remind me that, uh uh,
you really hurt for referral.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So it's family. They helped me get through a lot
for real.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That village, it's all. Everybody needs a village, you do.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
You definitely need somebody by your side to really, like
when you feel in loss, to play that light for
you to get you back on track.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So we hear Alive with an Nina Perry like a
dope MC. I could call her an MC because that's
what she is.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
She's an MC.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
H what's your songwriting or creative process? Like, like, do
you start with a beat lyrics mood?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yeah, so I start with a beat at first, So
I go through like a whole bunch of beats and
YouTube type beats too, So a lot of people don't
have to sit there and think gotta go, uh, get
a producer to make a beat for you really YouTube,
listen to something, feel the vibe. And then once I
got the vibe and I start doing like humming, and
then after humming, I go from there with lyrics.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And you were starting to build a big following online,
right You're starting to come up and really really big.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What what is the most the weirdest thing that happened
to you so far?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Since like this it's started you starting to get known
across the nation, Any weird stuff that went on? I
just like to ask that question like online, like, well,
hold up, hold up, I expect this when I got
to this point.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
MM, anything weird. I wouldn't say weird, but I would
say amazing. How like my music make people want to
DM me their whole story, Like sometimes I feel like
I'm a therapist, Like hold on, So yeah, it's not
even weird. It's just amazing that my music make a
person really just want to open up to me. So
it's like, oh, yeah, that's dope, that is dope.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Did so you respond like, because I know your numbers
are growing up, how many of those dms do you
respond to?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
I try to respond to most but you already know
that's not that's not really like reasonable. But yeah, I
try to respond to what I see pretty much, so
people know that.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Human too, I'm not like, no, stuck up bojie person,
I'm going to respond if I see it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Or you gonna be part of my rap song? What
of the other Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, you might be an inspiration to one of them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, yes, that's probably one of the best things.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Have you had that moment where because I don't have
the moments as a DJ where somebody like, yo, I
watch you send this.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
You inspired me to be a DJ?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like, have you had that moment like you inspired me
to wrap for me and the young Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
It's a lot of people in my comments, especially Instagram, TikTok, Facebook,
but doing its own thing too. I'll be looking up
on looking into comments and people be saying you you
inspire me to like want to do music too, like
I can do.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It, And I'm like, yes, you can. It's unstoppable, nobody
can stop you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You got it absolutely. Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
One of the best things that I think for you
is you grew up in the industry. Per se you said,
I grew up in the industry college because your dad
did it, so you kind of knew a little bit
about the industry because he had to record. And this
goes to the next question I have for you. What's
the biggest lesson you learned so far in this industry?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Be yourself? You know what I'm saying. A lot of
people don't be truly who they are. You know what
I'm saying. I feel like I learned that. Yeah, just
be authentic to who you are. People gonna love you
for you, for real. You don't gotta pretend. You don't
gotta flex, you don't gotta like act like you this,
act like you that. Nah, people gonna love you for you,
So just be you.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And that could probably go to my next question. What
advice was you giving in younger artists looking up to you?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Don't compete, don't compare. Stay in your own lane, don't
you know what I'm saying. Look at other people how
what's working for them and think it's gonna work for you.
Just stay in your lane, Because you know what I'm saying,
they say like it's a pull full of sharks, you
know what I'm saying. So when you in your own
ain't nobody in your in your lane for real, for real.
So you know what I'm saying, People gonna gravitate to
who you are. You don't got to be nobody else.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What's the most So have you been on tour yet?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I did a college tour I believe last year.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And how is that feeling going on tour?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I was amazing just seeing the crowd, how they was
receptive to the music and minds you. Some people knew me,
some people didn't. But once they heard the music and
they was listening to the lyrics, they started waving hands.
They were getting the sight. I was like, oh man, yeah,
some you know the energy they feel the energy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And your performance. Do you cut the music off so
to gear the bars? Like, oh, DJ, let me just
the grip this real quick.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I got caught in a moment where DJ just did
that and I just kept going with it.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I was he surprised me. I don't be telling the
DJ to drop the beat, but they just love to
drop the beat.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And now that gets the crowd even hype when they
can really hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
God, I think it's dope because I really think like
you really got bars of your wraps. So for you
to go out there and silent and let them hear
everything that you've got to say. I think that's a
really dope thing. And that goes to this next question.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Why is the.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Female since the female since twenty sixteen, maybe a year
before that, year or two before that, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Been because of the game.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Almost the last ten years, the women been carrying.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They've been carrying the ball. I just see that part.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I don't even know, but I just know that it's
a lot of females doing their thing though, like coming
at different directions, different styles, different swags. It's just like,
oh man, the females is eating them up.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's cool, We're.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Gonna keep caring it. I love.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So it goes to you, why are the the women?
The female rappers are really rapping now, like they rap.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Mm hm, they rapping, and you got some that's going
into melodic traps. So I just feel like now a
lot of people are stepping their game up because at
first it was a male dominant industry, but I feel
like females is now dominating in so many different ways,
and it's they're calling for the females for refere We're
doing our thing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm loving it. I'm loving that as DJ. It makes
it makes it easier for me, it does, it trusts me,
it does. I want to do the party in the club.
Mm hm, I run.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I could run the whole set, the whole hour or
two with just all women rappers and the.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Crowd gonna be turned the whole time.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Here it is. That's the whole point. I'm telling you
guys all the time. I'm a DJ for you, not
at all. Sorry, sorry to tell you. Listen.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I got a couple of questions for you, and you
can ask them how you want to uh your dream feature.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Dead or dead or oh that's a good one. That's
a good one. Dead or live?
Speaker 5 (13:08):
You just want one and you can give me whoever
you're go ahead, go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I would definitely say for alive.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It would have to be. I want a future with Drake.
I do definitely want a future with Drink. I think
that would be a dope collapse and h aliyah mm hmmm,
that would be with her on the hook. That would
be crazy. Definitely want Nikki for sure, Nicki Minaj, definitely
(13:42):
on the track. And I would say for the for
the last one.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Oh, I love yeah, yeah, yeah, I think is still underrated.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
He is, And I'm happy to get a lot of
people getting like receptive music because he'd be speaking that
real stuff too.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He does, he does. I love That's that's a good
list that Leah got me. That's a good one. That's good.
What's what's on your playlist right now?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
If I go through your phone and take your phone,
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna put on Spotify title whatever
you use, I'm gonna see what's your playlist right now?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
So I don't be listening to a lot of rap music.
I'll be listening to a lot of R and B.
Just the vibe so to her lm a uh, I
love in some little dirt Raloh, definitely, Hancho. You gotta Beyonce,
that's on my The list just keeps going and going
and going.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Save man.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I listen to a lot of R and B now too.
It's kind of that's I don't know. I just listen
a lot of R and B?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Where is that right now? For me? For me?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
For me as worries that if you're doing if you
weren't doing music, what would you be doing instead?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'll be doing real estate.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I like or into the into the airbnb business, because
I was looking into that before, and that's it interests me,
just flipping homes. If so, if I wasn't doing music,
I'll be flipping some homes.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm gonna be doing that anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Whatever whatever fund you got coming in from music, I'm
pretty sure you're gonna be doing that anyway.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You gotta have multiple different bags.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You hear me, absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So now you're creating you in your creating process, you
you listen to the bead, listen to the you about
to start writing lyrics?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What are them must have in your studio session.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Some snacks and the sweet tea come kind of you like?
I like hot chips.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I like the sour cheddar, sour cream.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Uh, ruffles, you know what I'm talking about. Uh, I'm
really a chips girl. I'm not a chocolate girl. I
love I love some chips.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's some chips.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Don't tell me out there eating them them, fire them
hot chips, them hot fretos or the flaming hot cheetos.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
I love them with some sweet tea, spicy, the spicy,
the ritos.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
How do you get your redness off your fingers that
lasts bout four or five days.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, you gotta just keep washing your hands.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Like you could never do a type of crime on
anything with that. Like follow the hot free those cheetos.
Let just follow that. The girl loves her chips.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
One word to describe your energy this year and your
energy for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
My energy is no mercy. You know what I'm saying,
applying pressure everything. You know what I'm saying from the
losses I took back then being naive, it's showing no mercy.
Stand on what I stand on, what I believe.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Is right is that's the direction I'm going. Trusting my
gut this time.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
This listen, you got to trust your gut whatever you do.
And now Perry is in the building. Let's talk about
these new projects that you got coming up. What we
got coming. We're in the fourth quarter, We pull it up.
Are you dropping in the first fourth quarter?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I just dropped my new single called No More Chances,
So right now, I mean that song, one of my
favorite songs right now, just because that's the energy that
I said, no mercy is what it's given. And yes,
that's the fourth We're gonna We're gonna have another track too.
I also got a track that I dropped before, No
more chance.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's called time for It. So y'all go check that out.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
All of these is on all platforms, all streaming platforms, Spotify, Apple, YouTube,
and they out right now.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And make sure you check her Instagram because it drop
some bars in case somebody I'm been asking for this.
I know Fabulous and Fablus does it every now and then.
I know Jeyakins does it every now and then.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I need and you got the ball.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I need somebody to take these thap back boom back
beats and just make a freestyle mixtape.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Just don't got me, don't got me.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Something can be a minute and a half of a
freestyle and just make records.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, that that would be something to remember. That'd be crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Actually, I think you should do that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I think you should grab everybody beat that is fire
and just like Harry, this is for the fast.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm just letting you know this is bars.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's it. That's that's why I want to wait for
somebody with bars to do that.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Okay, you've just had like do it.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I'm just saying, all right, just grab these beats the
fire beats from whenever, back when to now and you
just rip them, you just tear them apart like the
old little Wayne fifty used to do.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Right, take take these records. I'm just gonna make the minds.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, I think you can do it.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
It's not I think I know I can. You mix
it with my own flavor, you know what I'm saying.
But I feel you bring the old back to the
new kind of make it, merge it together, and you
know what I'm saying, people will go crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Absolutely absolutely, So what is your day to day practice,
practice practice now? Because I'm pretty sure you're not working
out right. I'm pretty sure this is just doing music
full time. Yes, So what is your day to day
process when you're waking up anymore? Like I wake up
and do the regular brush your teeth, do all that shower.
Then what's next?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Well, pretty much like I like, I got my own
home recording studio, so I definitely love to record. And
when I record it, do be taking time to really
search for a beach, really hone in on where I'm
trying to go and with directions. I'm trying to go
what I want people to feel when I do certain
things with the music also with my mom. My mom
was like she really she's my manager. Sorry for stuff,
(20:00):
she's my manager. So we sit together, we talk about plans, goal,
She feel my content. We do a lot of content
to my songs to post on Instagram. So the stuff
that you see on my Instagram, she shot it. So
that's pretty much my.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Day to day.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It's starting new ways to push out my stuff to
more people.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Let's stop that mom is the manager. She went like,
know what we do it is together.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yes, I love it too in the family. So it's
just like, yes, I trust you. You feel me so
I know she got my back and everything we do
we do it together.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
For real. What what do you do?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And I don't know how much time you got, so
just let me know how much time you got.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
What do you say to.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The people who seen you in high school junior high
and they see you now, say that one time like
the people you passed that you've seen in high school
right that you're seeing now they see.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You like oh no you oh snap, Like how is
that feeling?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Oh I feel?
Speaker 5 (21:00):
So I had a couple of DM they was like, man,
I remember you from you know what I'm saying back
back back then they're just like, I'm proud of you
because you're doing your thing for real, real. So it
do shock people to see, you know what I'm saying,
the person they went to school with really just out here,
really doing it for real, real and really elevating while
doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah. Did did they know back then that you were
doing it?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I feel like they did because back then I did skits,
and when I did in that area, the videos was
going viral each time, and I was actually my classmates
were participating in my videos too, so we would be
not in class, we would be in the hallways doing
some skits.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Is it any artists in Virginia you would like to
collabor with?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yes, I forgot his name because I just came across him.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
He was he had did this like rap battle thing
in atl And. I realized that he was from Norfolk,
so we tapped in. But I forget, I definitely forgot
his name.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Not gonna well, and that's the Listen. I appreciate you
take your time out with me. I'm a huge supporter.
So anything you need, let me know, I got you.
Trust me, you got bars, and I think you're very talented.
Anything you want to live to people of Cleveland and
to the world.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yes that y'all can follow me on all social media
platforms at Anaya Underscore Perry and a n A y
A Underscore pe r r y And I'm an upcoming
artist that's making some noise out in Northern Virginia. So
make sure y'all tune in because it's only getting bigger
and bigger and bigger and bigger. And be a part
of the journey for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Be a part of the journey.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Listen is the DJ Christyal Shore. I appreciated nin Perry
coming on. You already know what it is.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Here's another exclusive Chris Styles.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Ninety five point nine FM.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Thissten is a DJ Christal show podcast versions so you
can say what you want to say and if we
were playing on the radio, edit everything out.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
But I wanted to raw and uncut.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
This guy for the last two years, uh took this
game by storm, started taking a series two years ago.
But he said he's been making songs in his head
since he was born.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
This is that's what he said is out of his mouth.
When we say.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Bringing Atlanta back, we talk about bringing that raw Atlanta
music back, talking about bringing those lyrics back, bringing life
music back, bringing back telling the real there's no capping
in this music. Everybody give it a one time for
Billy Gang Cush because that's what he.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Wanted to be called.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Yeah, my research a little bit.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I'm good man. I love Ohio Bro.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
And your The response to your music is crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Right now, Yes, sir, tell me about this, this this
quick movement to start them, because if you think about
the first time that you really took a serious, like
that day you made that decision to say, hey, I
A'm taking this serious cause it's.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
About that time I got my kid, I stopped doing
what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I need to turn this hustle to this music game.
And two years later that you.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Hear man, that I really think is like I ain't
saying like it always been like that for me, but
like my focus and my execution and my diligence so turned.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Really, whatever you work at, Bro, if you got a
clear mind on it, like it's gonna work. You know
what I mean. It's with anybody in anything, you know
what I mean? Because just because you grinding hard that
song don't mean that's what's spoiled to happen, right, The
first thing, the first step is takes to be like, Okay,
do this makes sense. That's the first point of diligence,
(24:53):
you know what I mean, when you figure that shit out,
like you go, you know what I'm saying, to go.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And every interview that on that you have the same
message in the same drive.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
And part of that drive is I know what your son.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Being on the spectrum and sending through a different lens
now of being that dad.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
So you like you have to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I got to, Like I think that helped me
for real though, Like I don't really want to like
preach the wrong thing to the kids, but like a
plan be really ain't needed, you know what I mean.
If you gotta plan be, like you might fuck around
and have that in the back of your head. Like
for me, it was just like, bro, I can't go
(25:39):
back to doing the other ship because I'm so hot,
like when the rat started working a little bit, like
my face was too hot to do what I So
it's just like this gotta work, you know what I'm saying.
I wake up every day knowing this gotta work. Like
I'm not even thinking if it's gonna work, or if
it might work or nothing, It's gonna work, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
That was it for sure?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Exactly, it's gonna work.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's gonna go down.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And I think that inspiration of that work ethic that
you have because you said you was a hustler one
hundred dollars white teas you were selling just just getting
out the mud, and you just turned it into the
wrap part of it. What what surprised you about this
right game? Like anything surprised you about.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It surprised me. I ain't really surprised me, you know
what I mean. I would say that you gotta think
like I think any other thing you do. Like you
you're gonna have to have no time to make a
lot of money. You're not gonna have no personal time.
(26:46):
So I already knew that, you know what I'm saying,
But now I would probably say what surprised me is
I don't really get tired of it like I would
have been got tired of somebody now And it's like
it's really my calling, Like it's crazy to live in
blitch like that. Like you know, people say, like what
you put on the earth for? And it just like
I've been knew I really would find against doing this
(27:06):
for so long, doing the wrong thing. So now being
in this is just like I don't get tired of this.
I get to wake up every day and do this again,
even though it's hard work, and even though I don't
get the clock out, even though I'm missing other stuff,
but like it's crazy, like I know this what I'm
here for.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Yeah exactly. That that that kind of surprised me, Like
it's really what I here for.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
What's the next adventure exactly, next move exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I think Another thing is is when we get into
the pivot to your music, when I listen to it
and you can hear of very authentic ya, like this
is what I live, This is my life exactly, And
I think that's what the game is missing, right, is Okay,
how do I relate or people listen to like, how
(27:58):
do we relate to this person?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yo?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Yoah?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I think like in real life, me and the people
around me, like we kind of like people attract us,
like when they come around there, like they don't never
wanna leave off around there cause like we being ourself,
Like if somebody file it's funny like we're gonna laugh,
like i'm'na laugh at myself, Like I'm gonna say, I
feel like you know what I'm saying and all that.
So being yourself is always attractor. So like on the track,
(28:23):
it just on being myself, you know what I'm saying.
I know some of the stuff, it's stuff that people
probably never related to, but they can feel like, ig he,
that's real.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
You know what I mean. You can go check it,
you can go see it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And then a lot of this stuff is stuff people
would be scared to say about theyself, So like why
would he say, you know what I'm saying, like nigga,
come in on my post and cor my son and retard.
You know what I'm saying Like that, That's that's real life.
That's what I go through in real life, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
At what point did did you know that it was you?
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Was you just made you in the door?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Like what point when you was making this when we
start putting out your first track and then you like
you heard it like oh I'm in the door now.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Uh, I don't think it was a point cause like
I say, like I said the other day, like it
seemed like every move men, my members of money. They
made it felt like a h ah a, A couple
more bricks got added. So it ain't never just no
one food, you know what I'm saying, Like it was
just straight up like okay, we strategically building building, build
(29:28):
and building b and then you look back you got
the whole house, you know what I mean. And then
even right now, like it be it be it be
certain accolades, you know what I mean, That we get
but it just like I could do it again. I
need to do that again, or I need to do
it better or you know what I'm saying, Like yeah,
so I don't never really wanna ever feel that to
be honest, like right, you know what I'm saying, Like
(29:48):
that woulda gonna take to be the best. I don't
never wanna feel like, Okay, I'm here now, you know
what I mean, Like right, unless I get to the
point where it's like I don't retire from this and
I'm just coming back for the spoiler.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
But now that's different. But like right now, man, I'm
trying to be the best. Like I mean that I
love it.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think onether thing I love looking into your story
is how you grew up and how you take those
life lessons and you apply it to what you're doing
right now, because it's the growth, and I think it's
for me just redo. It is a quick growth for me.
For you it might be long, but for me just
reading and see how you pivoted so quickly, it's that growth.
(30:29):
And then you can hear it in your music from
one song to the next. Where where did that growth
come from? We'll let the people know where the growth
come from?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Whoever research I think, I think they came from just
being knowing how to pivot and having that uh their
vision where you know, vision is really and when I
say vision, I ain't saying like all seen in my
room one day and I could see myself performing in
front of one hundred thousand people every night.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
That ain't no vision.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Vision is when you come to a fork in the road,
how far to see down both on the road? Which
one I need to go, then the next one, then
the next. I need to open this door. I need
to close this dough right here in front of me.
You know, people think about the one hundred thousand people
concert and don't even know how to maneuver with the
five hundred dollars show. That's the vision, you know what
I mean? So just really knowing how to pivot and
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knowing how to have their vision, Like you gotta think
like I'm getting money in this over here they're cool.
But I had the vision to come to this fork
in the road where it's like it ain't no money
in route, spending money in route, so you know what
I mean, Like I had the vision to know like
there's still the route to go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
So that's that fork like you seeing I think you
said your grandfather was a pamp.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Your dad was a hustler too. You had an uncle
that did some things.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
I was hustling and you seeing the money it was
around it.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, the real hustles on the street. They wouldn't mess
with the rappers. You were seeing that you hit this
fourth I have to go down this road spend a
lot of money. I may not get it back right away,
or I can still take this road and know I'm
gonna get it.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, that thought of there was a talk about that
part of that growth. Yeah, what click or did you
just foreseeing your life?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I really I really had ben new going the rat
way was the right way. But you gotta think, man,
you you got doubt right, you know what I'm saying,
You got you got, it's a lot of stuff in it.
And then you got who you around, your everyday motion,
your bills, your kid Like Bro, you gotta think bro
having house over here, coned over here, uh uh uh
(32:41):
two three cars? I got a son who artist, this
ship costs here every week. Uh, you know, I had
a lot to up keep.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Bro and.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Me and my manager, Like the first conbo we ever
had on the phone, like ever the first thing got
hit me out? Will you know you can make enough
money off rap soon just at least pay your bills. Right,
That's where it kind of helped me the most when
he said that car was like, damn, I'm worrying about
getting I'm worrying about how to get to the means,
When in I reality, if I could focus on just
(33:11):
making two thousand a monk on rap, I can then
focus straight on wrap to make move.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
And that's literally how it worked out, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
On But yo, man, that that that that that that
was that was a big that was this rap was
the hardest thing I ever had to do other than
having my son, like and really buggling down and being
a dad, getting out the street enough to even be
a dad. But like, other than that, it's the hardest
thing I ever had to do, bro, Like people need
rehab for this, not even rap, like say you go
(33:41):
to you go to prison, like you come home, you
get right back to it. Like for somebody to be
able to walk away from the streets, Like we need
rehab for that because like that's a drug.
Speaker 7 (33:50):
For real.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You wake up every day noring this a ten thousand
dollars play. You mean tell me I'm finna walk away
from ten thousand when I needed team, and then I
got three four most set up, Like you know how
hard they is to walk away from, especially when you
don't perfect your craft on it, Like that's hard, brouh.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
And I did it though, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And I just started seeing how many less problems I
had all day, you know what I'm saying. On I
really don't even care about material things no more. I
ain't really care about material things then, but I still
felt like I need this, So I need this spider.
I need that, bro, Like real talk, Bro, it's I
don't run around here interact with four five hundred thousand
(34:31):
dollars and didn't even have a spot. They ain't even
have a car, didn't have no jury rock clothes one time.
Just leave it there like it really was just my
body walking around like I had got to the point,
don't even care, like you know what I'm saying, right,
obviously I had to get a central spot in a car,
and you know what I mean, But I ain't. I
don't even care about that no more like I'm living
(34:52):
in a whole another different blisch right now.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Different world at different times.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And now you're senior, So so let's let's kick it
to your music man. When you first when you when
you focus on.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
It and and you locked and and you locked in
with your manager.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
What direction did you know you wanted to go, because
you could go different ways? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, depending
where where you want to slat yourself in in the lane.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I mean, we had we had detailed talks about, Look,
we can go there route, you know what I'm saying,
But that might not last long.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
We can go that route. That's that's that's gonna be
a long road, but it gonna last long. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I think we just kind of got to a
point where it was just like not even a conversation
no more. It's just like, bro, we just gonna go
in here and be ourselves. Song gonna come out there,
and then we're gonna pick where we put out in
boom boom like and that's how it is now, Like
we ain't that jelight friend do my biggest song. We
didn't say, hey you need a girl song, or hey
we need a strip claw song. We said, hey, go
(35:53):
in there, just made what you make, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
And that was just one that we.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Picked, you know, I mean hits that way right, It's
not the one song that you thought it was. I
got this record all of a sudden, is the one
that picks.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Up exactly exactly and to go.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I think one of the favorite songs I have, I
think it's.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Uh Kim, Is it called Kim Kanye's Wife? Yeah? Yeah,
yoh yeah. That was probably my favorite song when we
dropped the album too.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
That's a good record, good record. I love the introduction too.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I just think I love the way that you slide
on the beat.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Now do you pick pick your.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Own beats because yeah, for sure, because because here's.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
The only other rapper that it's some other ones.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
But I really think the beat is Rick Ross in
production is always and when I listen to your music,
it reminds me of that your production that you took.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
You take a real point of view of my production.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, facts, I think Ross know how to do that
for sure. He knows how to say this a Rick
Ross beat. But you know what's crazy if you really
know how to pick beats, you know how to say
this a Rick Ross beat, right that anybody could say
this is a Rick Ross beat. But then it's a
pocket to beat you could pick where it's like, this
(37:13):
beat is great for Rick Ross. But unconsciously the people
wouldn't even think that without me being on it. I
think that's the pocket that make them songs like you
know what I mean, Like, you gotta pick it form.
You can't be like, oh, Rick ROSSI sound good on
the beat, you know what I'm saying. Y, you gotta
be like, I know how to fit myself in their beat,
and then when they hit this shit, it gonna sound like.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You know what I'm saying, And this shit's crazy.
Speaker 8 (37:35):
When I listen to your production, the way you rap
and flow.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Where did you get that for?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like?
Speaker 8 (37:40):
What was your some of your inffluences. I think when
you said Roco.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Was one of them.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you the truth. Y obviously rock
O g t on Jroke, That's what I grew up on.
But i'm'a tell you the truth. I wouldn't be sitting
here today if.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
I wasn't okay.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
So Like, I used to make music just like everybody
body else whatever was going on at the time. It
was like crump music or or auto tune and all that, right.
But I had one day we had did song where
I was like, I'm gonna just i'ma just do it
in my regular voice, and I'm gonna just i'ma just rap,
like I ain't gonna I ain't gonna try to make
(38:17):
a song just rap. And I rapped the song and
it was like kind of like high rap. It was
like high rap now, but I.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
Sat with it. I was like this trash, like nobodys
gonna listen to there.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
But one day I was riding down fort in industry,
no license, no insurance, no tag, speed like a motherfuckers,
a stripper in a passenger seat, her friend in the back.
We geeked up, we drunk, we swerved and I got
a gun and all that. I'm so geek. I put
the wrong song on trying to play it on my
(38:50):
new song. I put that song on. Man, they turned
up so crazy, like who it is?
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Woo?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
And I'm like the next day I asked her like,
I was like, hey, yin' yein't you for real by
that song? She was like, you need to do that,
like that's your voice, like that show that's what gonna
make you stand out. And it's crazy case, Like you
know what I'm saying. I was young and wild back then,
but like it's crazy cal Like ever since that day,
I stuck with building that and honding into that craft
(39:17):
right there.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
And she don't even know. I don't even know who
that is, Like she don't even know wherever she at now.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah, but that's the first thing when I listen to
your music, That's the first thing I said, Like, it's
the voice and the style he's rapping. And it did
make me rip it this of the outcast and the
big and the big gips and all them guys U
g k's and like, oh he is rapping, rapping, yeah,
(39:43):
with bars.
Speaker 8 (39:45):
With substance everything, And I say, yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yo, fact, yeah fact.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
And I always took a liking to real life music,
like you know, you got reality TV reality music, you
know what I mean, Like the Little Boosy, you know
what I mean, And people like that like baby Mom,
Baby Mama, I'm tired of you. I know, he was
tired of his baby moment that day. You see what
I'm saying. That's why I feel its own, you know
what I mean. So like here Ya always took a
(40:14):
liking of that type of music. I just tried to
like figure out how to make that as universally as possible,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Now that let's pivot to this way. I'm listening to
a lot of your interviews and you talking about survivors remorse. Yeah, right,
And and then it happens. I know, Helf could talk
about it a little bit. I know everybody pretty much
in this room can talk about even though I can
talk about a little bit that to success that all
of a sudden people start looking at try to look
at you differently. They all at the biggest line and say.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
You didn't change.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
Yeah, fact.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
The situation changed, but you didn't change. It's just the
people around you from where you started now and then
now have you lost some people of your group? Did
you look at him like, yeah, this ain't as I
move up on this totem pole.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yo, Man, you know what I like to like sit
around and think about stuff like that, and I just
you know what I went to thinking, it ain't even
they fault. Obviously it ain't my fault, but it ain't
they fault. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
They They ain't ready to change in their journey. So
why am I mad? Why am I mad?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Because they don't understand that they act different towards me
when in our reality we missed on that level. I
can't even be mad if d ain't there in their journey,
you know what I mean. And then on top of that, like, man,
so I'm so lawyer of a person like bro. You
could do something for me. Man, I'm talking about you
could be a tree jain me shade. I'm gonna be
(41:46):
lawyer forever. I'm water forever. So it like that kind
of hurt, you know what I mean. But at the
end of the day, man, as long as you're doing
right and you know, what I'm saying, like, long as
you have that.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Village though, I'm gonna say this because on the mental
health aspect, we don't talk about that a lot about
and hip hopped them mental aspect.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
The mental health aspect of it. But do you have
that village?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Do you have that?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I know I'm gonna go look and I need to
go over here and talk. Yeah, gonna look at you
as Belly Game. They gonna look at you as your original.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
That's really that's really the only people around me. Like
if you get that, you get to acting like I'm
talking to Belly Gang like that's dead, Like I need
for who we We we equal, like all my bros
and ship like we all equal, Like you know what
I'm saying. It's even like bros who got money and
whole other situations. That's like we just coming together and
you know what I'm saying, Like he rapped, you know
what I mean, I do this, he wrapped Like yeah,
(42:39):
but even like my members, especially my team that I
work with every day, like we all equal, Like they
joned on me the same way, Jone.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, we got Belly Gang cushion the building and did
you drop the album what six months ago?
Speaker 7 (42:55):
Yo, oh April. I keep saying made we dropping in April.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
And it just first one, two, the highest one, number
seventh on the chart, seven on the chart. I mean,
that's your first one with no features, no feature. That's
crazy and you didn't you did it? Read up a
little bit later you got features on there.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
But that's crazy. They think about that. It's not a
lot of people can drop an album. They first one,
all of a sudden it shoots up with no label
behind it.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah for sure, no major lad We got l vr
N my yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, my my distribution. But
like man to be younger, man, No folks move like
a powerhouse, you.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Like, it surprised me that only that few amount of
folks get all this ship done like this. Like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (43:40):
They really inspire me, bro, Like I really want to
be like them.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Dope.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Think about them is how they started off in more
of an R and B world and then they started
to shift into broaden the horizon was a five is
five former promoters.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
Yeah yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
They stared crazy, man, they need to make a move
about it. But we're crazy I don't even really think that.
I just think whatever they do, it's other ship they
do that you don't even know that. I wouldn't even
say on the podcast, but like whatever they do, that
ship just turn the gold, you know what I mean.
So I don't even I just think it was a
choice not to fuck rap, you know what I mean.
(44:18):
Now they want to fuck roun, you know what I mean.
Like whatever they do that shit they're gonna fly. Like
you know what I'm saying, you would.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
Have grouped great group of people.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And so with the number one, well close to number one,
and your first one, do you feel that the pressure
now for your second because I know you got something
geared up?
Speaker 7 (44:34):
Yo yo yo oh.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
No, I don't really think like in numbers for real,
cause you gotta think like I got certain.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
Songs that.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
That don't even perform good streaming, but like every person
that walk up say they're my favorite song, you know
what I'm saying. I don't even think nowadays at this
point we can pinpoint where the buzzs that with them numbers,
you know what I mean. Like at the end of
the day, obviously, you know I'm gonna tell you the
best way to pinpoint it, ride around your city and
(45:07):
see you playing it or not, see if they playing
it at the red light or not.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
You know what I mean. But ya, no, I ain't
got no, I ain't got no pressure for that. Man.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
I'm actually doing what I want to do and what
I love to do. And I do this ship for free.
I put this ship out for free if I could.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I've been telling health about that when I'm DJ and
I'm like, I do that for free most of for sure.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You always looking at me like.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Nah, belly games in the building.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Man.
Speaker 8 (45:33):
I appreciate you coming up man, blessing our city and
the mid West.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Man, I got I got the merch for you to
brick white tees, hunt all the white cheese.
Speaker 6 (45:43):
That's that's that's one hundred dollar boy.
Speaker 7 (45:45):
Yes, matter of fact, they sold a lot so that.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir, it's probably gonna end up with
my wife hand because that's what you do and everything.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I love your movement, I love your story. I think
will really touch me because I work with kids. That
was on the spectrum for fifteen years, so like I
understand who you go through.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
When you say you got a patient, you gotta do this.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
You gotta be that like yeah, like right now, he
not he don't want to use the bathroom. Sorry, I
don't know what he you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's one of those one of the things that is
is an everyday process that eventually it will come yep,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
So I understand when you say that, like that touched
my heart up.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Like yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, he gets it.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Uh, belly gain is in the building, man, Like we
call belly game cush us the hottest thing out right now.
Speaker 8 (46:36):
And I see your future that you you're really gonna.
Speaker 7 (46:39):
You're gonna appreciate that, appreciate that you're coming up here. Yes, sir,
you too.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
All I point down f M were out of here.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
Oh yeah, I can't. Yeah, that was that bes one
we don't did on the radio.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Jeff Sean was good, but this one.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
Was there is one we don't need in with radio
period with radioun
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So I probably could have Probably you fucking wouldn't the
best against d J Chris Styles
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