"Top Dawg" Hanford Dixon joins the show to reflect on his historic Browns career, being inducted in the National High School Football Hall of Fame and more.
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Today.
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You gotta set him up right today. All right, let
me set this up right. He played college football for
Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles. Was selected by the Cleveland Browns
with the twenty second pick in the first round of
the nineteen eighty one draft. Made the Pro Bowls three times,
eighty six, eighty seven, and eighty eight. He's credited with
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name of the Cleveland Browns dog Pound like the section
of the stadium.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's him.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
All Pro corner back, let's say that again. Two time
First Team eighty six, eighty seven. Remember it's a difference
between the.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Pro bo and All Pro All Pro.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
You him ranked as the number two quarterback Tantum of
all times with Frank min in Field. Understand who I
got on the air with me right now? Understand who
is one of the best defensive backs that ever grace
the football field, everybody giving up.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
One time for mister HATF Dixon.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What's going on, big dog?
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Speaker 1 (01:41):
Hey, hey, big dog, you the best. You know, you
laid it out perfect for me. You know, I couldn't
have done anything better myself, so it was just awesome.
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Thank you.
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You all right? Good?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We'll worry about my screen going out because sometimes it
just happened that.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But listen, hey, hey, you don't have to tell me.
I understand.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So listen.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Welcome to ninety five point nine, and we're going to
talk about football because it's about that time time because
once you started getting to mini camp, football is here.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But let's talk about you and your career with the
Cleveland Browns. Can we do that?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah? Yeah, wherever you want to take me?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Okay, we're going down this path.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
When we talk about those.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Times, I remember I was a young guy at the time,
very young, and watching you and Frank Minifield as DB's.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Let's just go away back let's talk about Southern Misissippi.
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
When you was going to Southern Mississippi, was was your
dream of going pro then? Or were you just happy
you got to the Division IE level of playing football?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know what it was? It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
When I was there, I knew I was good enough
to play professional ball. And I had said to myself,
you know, I remember my sophomore year and I said,
if I could just get drafted by the fifth round,
I know I can make someone's team.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then after my.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Year in college, I said, the hell with the fifth round,
you know, I said, I'm good enough I could be
a first round pick.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So it turns out that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I coming out of college, I was the ranked the
number one cornerback coming out.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And I thought, and that was the same.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Draft where you had Kenny Easley riding Lot and those guys,
and in that draft, running Lot went really really early.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Kenny Easily went really really early.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I said, this thing is gonna get pretty interesting here,
I said, because I'm gonna PROBA, I'm gonna probably be
the next defensive back to come off the board. And
what happened was with the twenty first pick, the Oakland
Raiders took a cornerback out of the Texas Tech guy
by the name of Ted Watts, and I was like,
what the hell is going on here? You know, I'm
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one cornerback is supposed to be come out. But right
after that, I got a phone call from Art Modell
and he said, han for you want to be a
Cleveland Browns And I said, yes, sir. And so that's
when the Browns took me with the twenty second twenty
second pick overall, and obviously everything else is history.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And everything else is the history.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Tell us when you got that call from Art Moredell,
tell us that exact feeling at that moment.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Can you remember back, take us back to that set
us up that scene. You're at home, you eat, I
don't know what you had to eat?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Was a chicken because you're from Alabama, so I'm pretty
sure was barbecue. I'm pretty sure somebody was barbecuing. I'm
pretty sure that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah. Tell you this, though, I wasn't doing too much eating.
That was too nervous to eat anything. And when I
got that call, because obviously, you know, back then Art Modell,
he was the owner of the Cleveland Browns and just
to hear his voice on the phone, and I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He asked me the question if I wanted to be
at Cleveland Browns, and.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I'm like the Cleveland brown I'm like, yeah, I just
want to I want to get drafted. So, uh you know,
for me, I'm coming from the South, and I thought
it was kind of weird because you know, up here, man,
in Cleveland, it's just so cold, and I really hadn't
before I got here.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I really hadn't seen any snow or anything.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And uh so, but yeah, I came here, and boy,
it was just a great place for me to come
and start my uh and started and finish my career
here in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I'm just I'm just happy because.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Since I've been here, the fans here in Cleveland just
been the best fan anywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I mean, I know, I'm jumping over.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
No no talk, let's go. I'm gonna shoo.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But I just I just hate we didn't finish our
ultimate goal, and that was to win a Super Bowl. Obviously,
you know, we lost the three AFC championship games to
the Denver Broncos, and and that really hurt because it
just seemed like when we played them in those Championshi games.
They got all the breaks we got none. Everything seems
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to go right for them. And and then what happened
was everything seemed to, you know, go right for them.
And then what happened was when they played in the
Super Bowl. It was just terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
They just they just laid an egg. And we were like,
you know, why couldn't they lay an egg in one
of those AMC championship games. But again, the fans here
is just outstanding and just happy.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I came to Cleveland, was a Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I mean, you you bring out some heart, some some
heartache for me. Man, I can't believe you brought that up.
Almost A tear almost came down on this one. I'm
glad my camera's not working, so and tear came down
because I remember sitting in the when they kicked the
field goal. Right now, I'm sitting in it in the
other room. I didn't watch it. I'm sitting there praying
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to God. This why I knew God didn't care who
would team you prayed for, right.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
This is why I knew he's down the line.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It doesn't matter with the sports gets injured and I pray,
I said, listen, I will make sure I eat all
my vegetables and I'll get good grades.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
If they missed this field goal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That that didn't work, well, you wasn't the only one
that was.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, we were praying on the field and I
we couldn't even look at the look.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
At the thing. But it was just weird. I'm telling you,
it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It was just things just was It was just not
meant for us to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, because again I'm characteristic, things that normally doesn't
happen to our football team happened during those three games.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And we just couldn't believe it. Man. We were like,
but you know what, He's always got a plan and
he does.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, he's got you talked about God, but he's
got his own way of doing things and we all
have to accept it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know, absolutely absolutely tell us about the Cleveland fans
towards you and your you alluded to it. But I
tell a lot of athletes who come through Cleveland, who
who comes here, and I say, if you treat Cleveland correctly,
if you if you buy in with the city and
what they're about, they will love you for life.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
There is no question about it, because obviously Cleveland is
a blue collar town and I can understand that coming
from down south. Uh, there are a city that you know,
everybody just love to, you know, grab their lunch pail
and hard head and just go work every day and
work hard. And that's what we tried to do on
the football field. And as a result, the fans just
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loved us. I mean, I mean it's again you heard
me talk about it, say the best fans anywhere in
the world. And an example of that is even now.
I mean, you look at a football team down the years,
it hasn't historically been a good football team, but every
single game you look at that stadium and that stadium
is pretty much sold out, and it's just it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Just it's just crazy. That's how you know.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's that'll tell you what type of fans we have
here in this city. And again I took on every
it doesn't matter where I go, I'm talking to. I said,
the Cleveland Browns fans are the best fans and most
loyal fans anywhere in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
We're so loyal.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
We are so loyal, no matter what I mean, I listen,
we are so I noticed question comes up to you
all the time. Why did you not trademark dog pound?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know what we you know, try to I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Let's start about how how that whole thing starts.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Please please get it to that one.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And uh, we were at trading camp and training camp
was at Lake Looking Community College camp Lakeland Community College
were so close, the fans were so close to the
to the field, and uh, it was initially for the
defensive line because you know, we had two all Pro
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cornerbacks myself and Frank Minnefield. We had two all Pro
linebackers talking about Chip Bangs and Clay Matthews. But we
just didn't have that dominant pass rusher. We didn't have
that mouse, Garrett to say. And we told the defensive line,
I was thinking about how down south our whole dog
chased the cat. And I said, we're gonna think of
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you guys as a dog, and you think of the
quarterback as a cat.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
We're gonna bark at you. And when we do, you
just rare back and go get it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And like I said, the fans were so close, we
start bar before everybody was the whole defense, not just
the defensive line the whole team and then to answer
your question.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
When immediately immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And tried to trademark the whole thing, and NFL properties
already had it. So if you're gonna if anything in
the NFL, they are on it.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Why why It's just like you know the Redskins, the Hogs,
you remember that, Yes, yeah, all that, man, NFL properties
they get that. I don't know how they do it
so fast?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
What like how did that happen? Yes? Like how did
they do like? How did that have it so fast?
You just said it one time?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Hey, hey they have they have their spies or whatever
in each city, but they had it all ready locked
up and we were sick too, sick to you imagine
all the money that's and that still making off, the.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Dogs still making everything.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Ah, these guys NFL, I mean listen, NFL made a
great life for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But man, they're good what they.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Do, no questions, no question good.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And so what made you as your I know you
went one years with the practice squad with San France. Okay,
what made you come back to Cleveland and just stay
in Cleveland?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Ultimately?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah? Uh, you know you talk about San Francisco. I
was going to go there and I was going to
play a year. And what happened.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I tore my quad and uh, and they wanted to operate,
and I said, man, the hell with that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I said, I'm not going to go through no operation
or something stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I said, I'll just go ahead and retire, and pretty
much retired Cleveland Brown And but I.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Came back here because after being here for so long, uh,
you know, like nine ten years, I just it just
felt like home.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And you know, I could relate to the people, relate
to the fans, and you know, I still go back
home a lot, but this just felt like home.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And you're talking about old, young, young.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Country boy from Theodore Mobile, Alabama. When I, uh, when
I when I got here, I said, well, you know,
I thought I never wanted to come here because it
was too cold.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I said, Now you can't get rid of me. Now, yeah,
you can't get rid of me.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So but I just love it, hear to tell you
the truth, And the people are just so warm and caring,
and that's.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Why I love Player ninety five point nine FM with
Hampford Dixon to the.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Top Dog here. What does it feel like your NFL peers.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Everybody in the in the in thee hundred years of
the NFL ranked you and Frank Minifil number two as
number two best tandem in NFL history. Should be number one. Honestly,
in my book, you number one. Seriously, we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, it feel it feels pretty good. It would feel
a lot better if we don't want a Super Bowl
because I know that's that's keeping a lot of us
out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Uh, I still think it's an accomplishment because there's a
lot of great tandems as far as cornerback in the
National Football League and for them to uh have us
ranked number two. Still again, we would much rather be
number one, but it still means a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
To us because boy, you know, that's a tough, tough position.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I mean, every single play you're going against the world
class athletest, the fastest players in the world, and uh
and then you got those quarterbacks that are throwing BB's
and darts to them. So it fel it feels pretty good.
So we're pretty happy with that. I think it's a
great accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, I think you guys names will be spoken enough
for talking about not just one lockdown corner. You usually
have the best corner, then you have your secondary cornery.
He's just as good, but not quite there. You guys
were both number one corners on a defense.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes, and Frank and I.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
What we did was we really pretty much uh was it?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We complimented each other very very well.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And one thing that really made us really really good
was we were students of the game, meaning that we
studied really really a lot talking about our posing h
receivers because we wanted to know what they were going
to do when they line up in this formation. When
we were out there on the field, it was like
a computer going off in our head. For instance, when
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they come out of that when they come out of
the huddle, we take a look at them, we see
what formation they're in, they go in motion, we pretty
much know what they're going to try to do to us,
and we.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Kind of just let it keep running running in our head.
And like I said, we.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Not only was we were good, but we were always
too well prepared.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Guys, very well prepared.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
When we talk about football and we're on a call
because it's nast next week, National High School Hall of
Fame is in there, you'll be around there.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Tell us a little bit about that, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know, I'm kind of excited about that too.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Got the call that Frank and I were both going
into the High School Hall of Fame, and I think
that's going to be a I think they have some
activities on the thirteenth and the fourteenth, both days, and
I think the it's gonna be down in Canton, and
we're pretty excited about that. And we're also pretty honored
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to go in there because there's gonna be players going in.
I think Warren Moon, I think ray Lewis, Eric Metcalf who.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Is who played with us, He's also one of the guys.
Michael Vick is another one.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I mean, you're talking about a who's who of names
and ex players that are going into this thing. So
pretty pretty excited and really honored that they think enough
for Frank and myself to have us being on that list,
so kind of looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
That is awesome being I mean, just being recognized, you
already recognized, we recognized as one of the top high
school players is huge, right, I mean, but Dan, you
just all the way down that shouldn't tell me that
you shouldn't that should tell anybody, any of the media,
that you should make the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, like I said, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You know, I know if we have won at least
one of them made it to one one of those
Super Bowls, would have definitely been in. But uh, but
that's okay, I mean, it is what it is. But uh,
just just happy and it's still the possibility. But we
hope to get in there one day.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
We hope, and I think you will get in one day.
Let's talk about these Cleveland Browns here. Okay, the last
five years, it's been like a roller coaster and we've
seen now I know you cover it now, you have
your own show with my homegirl Gabby. Shout out to Gabby,
and I know we've just been through a lot of
emotional things to the Browns. Where are the state of
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the Browns right now as we speak?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You know, I was actually went over there yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I seen I was there too.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I walked, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, they
have the OTAs.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Right and you know what, I think, I really think
that the Browns right now are flying under the radar.
I think we are going to be a lot better
than a lot of people think that we're going to
be because when you look at it, and you look
at what Andrew Berry and you look at Stefanski, what
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they've added to this team this year, I'm pretty.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Excited about it. I was a little bit upset at.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
First when we moved from number two to number five.
We took the kid Mason Graham. I was a little
bit upset by that because I thought Carter was there.
I thought Hunter was there, and I thought the running
back out of Boise he was there. And I would
want to see us take one of those guys. But
that's okay, we moved down. I'm going to give Mason
Graham a chance. I also think that we addressed the
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running back position. We got those two, one of them
from Ohio State and the.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Other ones from DNC and these bags.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Man, let me tell you something, those boys, I guarantee you.
You know, you hate to lose Nick Chubb because he's
such a great guy and a team player. But I
think these two guys are just gonna not gonna miss
a beat.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think what we really really need to improve is
we need to do something about that about those wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And I know the moves there.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
We got Jerry Judy, who who's gonna be our number
one guy? But Uh, I think, like I said, I
think we're riding under the radar. But I think we're
gonna be okay this year because we have to be
because that AFC North is strong and it is tough.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The quarterback position, I mean that room is just absolutely filled.
We got four actually five with one that's probably gonna
go on o R. But I'm telling you guys, watch
and see what I tell you. Watch Sanders watching, watch him,
watch it because that kid and he understands that everybody
passed over. And I think he's gonna he's gonna show
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him that he deserved to be in this league. I mean,
come on to get to pick up this guy? And
five is steal. I'm wondering what was Pittsburgh's thinking thinking
about it? You know, they need a quarterback that's worse
than anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You know, It's.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, they passed on him, said, are you kidding me? Right? Happy?
I'm just happy we got him.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And uh, and I hope this kid just come out
and just show them all that they made a mistake
on it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
You mentioned you mentioned the receivers and I don't know,
Andrew Berry has been a pretty good, adequate GM, right.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I have the issue with we have yet to draft
a really good receiver and and I look at our
receiver courts and I say, yeah, we're not going to
do well when when people started to stack the line
and the way the office is built, the office of
routes are not built for the receivers to create for
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them to get open, like they got to kind of
create themselves. And I have yet to see a receiver
pop out in these OTAs like oh that's him.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, yeah, I hope uh Tillman.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You know, obviously he's a big, big target who we
d you know a few years ago. Hopefully he'll come through.
I know, we just signed a kid, Jalen Gil We
just signed him. Uh so I but we still need
to make a big splash as far as as far
as that's concerned, because when you look at I'm just
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gonna give an example, when you look in that AFC
North for instance, the Baltimore Ravens, who uh man, I'll
tell you what they just signed with, Shark Bateman, you know,
gave him I think it was a three year, thirty
six million dollar contract, and uh, you know they got
Flowers and DeAndre Hupkins, I mean so, and then you
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know you got Lamar Jackson who was throwing those bebes
to those guys. And then you turn around and you
look at the Cincinnati Bingos. You got Joe Burrows and
we know, uh, the two the two wide receivers they
got over there.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Then there's the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So that whole AFC North is pretty strong and it's
doing nothing but getting stronger.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So we if we're going to.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Do anything, we have to keep up with first of
all the teams in our division.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And I think we will.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
But I still again, and I think you agree with
me that we need to make some kind of splash
at that wide receiver position.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, we need good splash.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Can we talk about when we talk about today's football
and how it's played, we need some to win them
games when they's stacked up, and we need to make
exposive plays.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And I just don't think we have it at this
moment to be able.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
To well, I had some enough to cut you off.
I had some fun yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, are you good.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
With Jared Judy over there? And I said, big dog
I tie you up right now. I said, take you
right now. I won't let you off the lot of
scrimmage that I had him laughing because I said, Jerry,
I said, if I let you off a lot of
scrimmage right now, I can't behind you, big dog. I
can't afford to let you Allso, but I think it's
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great for someone like him to not have you know,
he doesn't This is not otes is not mandatory for him.
But he's still there because he understands the importance of
getting getting there, trying to establish some kind of rhythm
with those new quarterback and especially with this new offense
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that's going on right now.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, and how much new other this office is new,
because if I'm understanding, it's still Stefanski's isc type offense.
Or how much Tommy Reeves have his influence, or we
forget Bill Musgrave is in the building. Yeah, yeah, like
we're forgetting about like he's not there.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, but you know, I think pretty much he's gonna,
believe it or not, I think Stefanski is gonna let
Tommy Reeves pretty much run the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
What yeah, hold up, hold up, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We all find that hard to believe. You, but uh,
I think uh. And I did talk to h. Stefanski yesterday.
I didn't talk to him about this, but I did
talk to him yesterday. We were just getting around, joking
around a little bit. But I think he's.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Going to I think he's gonna lay back and.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Let tom He's gonna have his input. You know that
he's gonna put his input in. But I think he's
gonna let let it pretty much be Tommy's uh offense
to uh to run with.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I'm gonna hold this to you because I'm gonna see
you at the mini cab and everything goes so every
day that I see you at the first game.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm gonna hold this to you.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I know you should have Brett listen breaking breaking news.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Wow if But so, here's the thing, and to your point,
Tommy Reese is an upcoming offs the coordinator. He is
a former quarterback. He sees the game a little bit differently.
He seems it from a quarterback lens. We'll forget we
do have Bill Musgrave who's ran offices before, right, so
I think that is a plus for Stefanski.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Hey, Doug, you got you got to give tell me
some uh some credit to because I'm from Alabama. Obviously
I went to Southern mess but I still had scholarships
to Alabama off and all the big schools.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And uh uh you know.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I still have people in my family that are
still mad at me today because I didn't go to Alabama.
But you know, but uh, you know, I had my
reasons for going to Hannesburg.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I bet you did.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I bet you did. Between the lines, don't you're talking.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
About we can talk about it, and now it was illegal,
not legal, you don't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I had, I had, Uh, I think years ago, a
few years back, I had Eric Dickerson talking about He's like, yeah,
I had the car like he was talking about all
day long.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's funny. I mean, but but what.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Real quick before you can tell you about Tommy Reese,
before you can too, we'll go right for that. How
much was that bag?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
What did they give you?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You said, what did they give me?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah? What was that bag? Looking like, hey, big god, I.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Didn't get a bag. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh he's still being quiet about.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It, big dog. I have you know that was illegal
back then? You know, we couldn't we couldn't do that
big dog.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Listen, he got it. That that tells me how I
forgot the bag. He's just not talking about it. He
ain't talking about he got it. Though he got it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He got it. I ain't mad at it. I would
I was in that position, I would have got it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I always say if I was in that position, I
wouldy ran for it too. I'm sorry, you try to
tell me, Try to tell me. Nobody get the bags now.
That's why. That's why Alabama and the rest of the
teams are mad now because it's legal.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Everybody could joined.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Oh no, you got shout out to my guys over
in Sacramento State. But Sacramento State, you know who's moving
up to FBS in a couple of years, just got
like a hundred million dollar endownment or however it was
fifty million just for yeah, crazy crazy. Back to Tommy Reese,
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what have you seen from him at practice, like as
the command of the offense and installing as much as
you can see.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, you know, I've only, like I said, I've only
been out there once and that was yesterday. But I'm
going to start to I'm gonna start to get out
there a little bit more now. Because you know next
week they have a mandatory mandatory mini camp uh coming up,
And that's when I want to get there, when you
got everybody in there, and you got all the boys
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and and see, now they run a little seven on seven,
but they don't run any one on one in the OTAs.
I want to get there when you see the quarterback
and receiver really get together and they're going one on
one pretty much against the defensive backs, the corners, the safetyes.
And then you'll see the running backs pretty much going
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one on one against the linebackers. So I'll see what
kind of chemistry they have been and what's going on
pretty much with them and how they're coming along. But
like I said, I've only been out there once, and
I'll get a chance to check.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
All that out.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Okay, cool, Cool.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I mean it's gonna be a wonderful listen with the
door standers there, a lot of media is going to
be there. It's gonna be far for the Cleveland Browns.
And I think one thing I've seen in practice yesterday
was the defensive guys are very into the practice.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, very into the practice.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, you know, the defensive guys, they always want to
try to beat up on the offensive guys and it's
so funny. But one thing they better not do. They
better not come anywhere close are near to that quarterback.
I guarantee you that, because that is a no, no,
you can't, you can't.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You can't get anywhere near those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
But it's all, you know, it's all pretty much a
fun competition which bring out the best in everybody, because
that's what it's all about, the players going against against
each other, trying to make each other better.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I think that's what we'll do.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
What would you tell What would you tell a free
agent or or a current Cleveland Brown's player that's that's
in the free agency or contemplating move somewhere, is.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
What would you tell you? What would you tell them?
Why excuse him? Run that back?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Why would they want to stay in Cleveland? What speech
would you give them?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, you know the thing is now, I mean it's
not just that you have.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The fans and all that today is not enough for
these guys because with the kind of money that they're
paying right now, I mean you can have another team coming,
you know, just like Deshaun for instance, I mean wherever
he was, I mean he I'm sure he was happy there,
but you came and look at the contract we offer him.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Kid, It's just like to put it to you this way.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
One season sixty.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You know where you are right now. You're in that studio.
You got your own little thing going on, and you
want to stay there.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But they come to you and they say, hey, you know,
we got a bag for you, and that bag is
pretty heavy.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You know you're gonna tell you know I love you.
You know I love you. Guys.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
First of all, you give him the opportunity to match it, right,
but if they can't match it, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You got to go.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
The Brinks truck come, you got you gotta sit back
and talk to the talk to the wife a little
bit like hold.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Up right, I guarantee, but I guarantee you this.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
If they coming offer you pretty much similar to what's
going on right now. You're gonna stick around because you
love Cleveland, you love the surrounding areas, So you're gonna
stick around. But if it's the number that you just
can't turn down, I mean it is what it is,
you gotta go. And you can't blame anyone for that.
I mean you, you just can't blame any of these players. Obviously,
(31:07):
we want to keep them all here. That's why, if
it makes sense to us, we have to do what
we have to do to get them on the contract
and keep them here. It's just like I look at
the Baltimore Ravens, Derrick Henry and Derrick Henry. They just
gave him a two year extension thirty million dollars because
they want to keep him around, even though Dereck Henry
is getting up there in age and people say you
(31:29):
don't pay running back. But again you're talking about Derrick Henry.
So that's the way it works.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That's the where it work.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
We got the number one cornerback every NFL history. I
don't care what anybody else say. I'm going to say it.
I almost stick to it. I'm gonna stick to it
straight man and man, no zone freight NFL have for
Disson Dixon. Listen, man the man with no zone back then.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
No man, the man big dog, bumper, run, bumper run
right let up. And when we say bumping round, were
talking about bump and run. We're not talking about let
him run. You got to you got to take them
away at the lot of scrimmage. What is they say
it's bumping around, but you watch them, A lot of
them they're afraid to bump because they're afraid to miss.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It because they know if you miss him. You know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I remember I was playing against a guy from the
Jest named Lamb Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Lamb Jones, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
World class printer, world class, and I knew you're talking
about every single play. You had to concentrate on him
when you're up there bumping and running because again, can't
miss it. You cannot miss it. And if you miss him,
you hope.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You have the dB gard with you.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Because you miss was over. Yeah, you know you're looking
at his number, look at the back of this cleat
like everything.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
You're like, man, yeah, some nice clicks he got one, man.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I trust me. I don't.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
High school, I played quarterback and then I and I switched.
I play a quarterback down switched over to receiver when
I went to college for for for a semester or two.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But yeah, yeah, I wasn't. The dB tried it.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I would have loved it, but unfortunately I was better offensively.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
We gotta have for Dixon in a bit different listen.
High school next next week is the High School Hall
of Fame June thirteenth through the fourteen. Make sure you
check my guy out, he's gonna be there. Also, talk
about your show you have with Gabby.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
We me and Gabby we you know, we we it's
such a good chemistry and we really get along.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, I love you.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I give her a hard time on the air because
I tell her, I said, Gabby, I talked to so
many people and they say they're watching our show. But
I said, what they really tell me was that they
don't watch the show because of me. They watched the
show because they want to see you and not me.
And you know, she just laughs. She just laugh at
me all the time, because you know, Gabby is.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I have.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I have watched her on my show, our show, and
some of the other shows, and I'm telling you, she
is just phenomenal. She just gets better, better and better.
And we feed off each other, and Pat, who is
our producer, we feed off each.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Other so well.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
And I've had, for instance, I've had Ozzie on the show.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I've had a bunch of the boys on the show.
And the closer.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
We get to the season, it a heat up again
where that's when I'll start bringing in like a lot
more of my guests. I'm gonna have I'm gonna get
the fans, and i'm gonna get all them boys on
this time.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
So and big Dog, we got to get you on
there too. You gotta come on with it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Absolutely, let's go. I love Gabby, I love you guys show.
I do watch it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I am.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I'm a cleaner fan of anybody that's doing anything sports
media or doing something that represents Cleveland to the fullest.
And so that's what we do. I appreciate you coming on.
I will see you next week.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Hey, Hey, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It's sorry took us so long to get on here, man,
but yeah, I'm happy to be all with you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I'm gonna always listen. You don't have to ask twice
to get on the WOVU.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Once I get my camera working correctly this next time,
you can see me. But listen, you can always come
on come on to the show. Anybody, your former teammates,
you just pull up, you can come in. There's no
appointment needed, just coming to the studio.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You got a big dog.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I appreciate you so much. Man. There it is ninety
five point nine FM half for Dixons.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
In the building, he pulled up man and showed up
and showed out.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Guys. Check him out next week. The High School National
Hall of Fame is here in Katon, Ohio,
This is w OVU Studios, the number one DJ in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
Ninety five point nine.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
F Immage Boy, DJ Christals holding it down as I
always do. Here, I got a great one for you
to day, a fabulous one.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Today.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
They me set him up because sometimes you gotta set
you gotta set him up right.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Today.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You gotta set him up right today. All right, let
me set this up right. He played college football for
Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles. Was selected by the Cleveland Browns
with the twenty second pick in the first round of
the nineteen eighty one draft. Made the Pro Bowls three times,
eighty six, eighty seven, and eighty eight. He's credited with
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name of the Cleveland Browns dog Pound like the section
of the stadium.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's him.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
All Pro corner back, let's say that again. Two time
First Team eighty six, eighty seven. Remember it's a difference
between the.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Pro bo and All Pro All Pro.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
You him ranked as the number two quarterback Tantum of
all times with Frank min in Field. Understand who I
got on the air with me right now? Understand who
is one of the best defensive backs that ever grace
the football field, everybody giving up.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
One time for mister HATF Dixon.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What's going on, big dog?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How you going to see? I set that up for you?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Hey, hey, big dog, you the best. You know, you
laid it out perfect for me. You know, I couldn't
have done anything better myself, so it was just awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
We had to set that up for you. Don't worry
about my screen going out. We'll keep this thing go.
Can you hear me here?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You all right? Good?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We'll worry about my screen going out because sometimes it
just happened that.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But listen, hey, hey, you don't have to tell me.
I understand.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So listen.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Welcome to ninety five point nine, and we're going to
talk about football because it's about that time time because
once you started getting to mini camp, football is here.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But let's talk about you and your career with the
Cleveland Browns. Can we do that?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah? Yeah, wherever you want to take me?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Okay, we're going down this path.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
When we talk about those.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Times, I remember I was a young guy at the time,
very young, and watching you and Frank Minifield as DB's.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Let's just go away back let's talk about Southern Misissippi.
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
When you was going to Southern Mississippi, was was your
dream of going pro then? Or were you just happy
you got to the Division IE level of playing football?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know what it was? It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
When I was there, I knew I was good enough
to play professional ball. And I had said to myself,
you know, I remember my sophomore year and I said,
if I could just get drafted by the fifth round,
I know I can make someone's team.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then after my.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Year in college, I said, the hell with the fifth round,
you know, I said, I'm good enough I could be
a first round pick.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So it turns out that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I coming out of college, I was the ranked the
number one cornerback coming out.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And I thought, and that was the same.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Draft where you had Kenny Easley riding Lot and those guys,
and in that draft, running Lot went really really early.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Kenny Easily went really really early.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I said, this thing is gonna get pretty interesting here,
I said, because I'm gonna PROBA, I'm gonna probably be
the next defensive back to come off the board. And
what happened was with the twenty first pick, the Oakland
Raiders took a cornerback out of the Texas Tech guy
by the name of Ted Watts, and I was like,
what the hell is going on here? You know, I'm
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one cornerback is supposed to be come out. But right
after that, I got a phone call from Art Modell
and he said, han for you want to be a
Cleveland Browns And I said, yes, sir. And so that's
when the Browns took me with the twenty second twenty
second pick overall, and obviously everything else is history.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And everything else is the history.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Tell us when you got that call from Art Moredell,
tell us that exact feeling at that moment.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Can you remember back, take us back to that set
us up that scene. You're at home, you eat, I
don't know what you had to eat?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Was a chicken because you're from Alabama, so I'm pretty
sure was barbecue. I'm pretty sure somebody was barbecuing. I'm
pretty sure that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah. Tell you this, though, I wasn't doing too much eating.
That was too nervous to eat anything. And when I
got that call, because obviously, you know, back then Art Modell,
he was the owner of the Cleveland Browns and just
to hear his voice on the phone, and I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He asked me the question if I wanted to be
at Cleveland Browns, and.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I'm like the Cleveland brown I'm like, yeah, I just
want to I want to get drafted. So, uh you know,
for me, I'm coming from the South, and I thought
it was kind of weird because you know, up here, man,
in Cleveland, it's just so cold, and I really hadn't
before I got here.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I really hadn't seen any snow or anything.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And uh so, but yeah, I came here, and boy,
it was just a great place for me to come
and start my uh and started and finish my career
here in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I'm just I'm just happy because.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Since I've been here, the fans here in Cleveland just
been the best fan anywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I mean, I know, I'm jumping over.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
No no talk, let's go. I'm gonna shoo.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But I just I just hate we didn't finish our
ultimate goal, and that was to win a Super Bowl. Obviously,
you know, we lost the three AFC championship games to
the Denver Broncos, and and that really hurt because it
just seemed like when we played them in those Championshi games.
They got all the breaks we got none. Everything seems
(06:03):
to go right for them. And and then what happened
was everything seemed to, you know, go right for them.
And then what happened was when they played in the
Super Bowl. It was just terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
They just they just laid an egg. And we were like,
you know, why couldn't they lay an egg in one
of those AMC championship games. But again, the fans here
is just outstanding and just happy.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I came to Cleveland, was a Cleveland Brown.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I mean, you you bring out some heart, some some
heartache for me. Man, I can't believe you brought that up.
Almost A tear almost came down on this one. I'm
glad my camera's not working, so and tear came down
because I remember sitting in the when they kicked the
field goal. Right now, I'm sitting in it in the
other room. I didn't watch it. I'm sitting there praying
(06:52):
to God. This why I knew God didn't care who
would team you prayed for, right.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
This is why I knew he's down the line.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It doesn't matter with the sports gets injured and I pray,
I said, listen, I will make sure I eat all
my vegetables and I'll get good grades.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
If they missed this field goal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That that didn't work, well, you wasn't the only one
that was.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, we were praying on the field and I
we couldn't even look at the look.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
At the thing. But it was just weird. I'm telling you,
it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It was just things just was It was just not
meant for us to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I mean, because again I'm characteristic, things that normally doesn't
happen to our football team happened during those three games.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And we just couldn't believe it. Man. We were like,
but you know what, He's always got a plan and
he does.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, he's got you talked about God, but he's
got his own way of doing things and we all
have to accept it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know, absolutely absolutely tell us about the Cleveland fans
towards you and your you alluded to it. But I
tell a lot of athletes who come through Cleveland, who
who comes here, and I say, if you treat Cleveland correctly,
if you if you buy in with the city and
what they're about, they will love you for life.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
There is no question about it, because obviously Cleveland is
a blue collar town and I can understand that coming
from down south. Uh, there are a city that you know,
everybody just love to, you know, grab their lunch pail
and hard head and just go work every day and
work hard. And that's what we tried to do on
the football field. And as a result, the fans just
(08:37):
loved us. I mean, I mean it's again you heard
me talk about it, say the best fans anywhere in
the world. And an example of that is even now.
I mean, you look at a football team down the years,
it hasn't historically been a good football team, but every
single game you look at that stadium and that stadium
is pretty much sold out, and it's just it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Just it's just crazy. That's how you know.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's that'll tell you what type of fans we have
here in this city. And again I took on every
it doesn't matter where I go, I'm talking to. I said,
the Cleveland Browns fans are the best fans and most
loyal fans anywhere in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
We're so loyal.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
We are so loyal, no matter what I mean, I listen,
we are so I noticed question comes up to you
all the time. Why did you not trademark dog pound?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know what we you know, try to I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Let's start about how how that whole thing starts.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Please please get it to that one.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And uh, we were at trading camp and training camp
was at Lake Looking Community College camp Lakeland Community College
were so close, the fans were so close to the
to the field, and uh, it was initially for the
defensive line because you know, we had two all Pro
(10:04):
cornerbacks myself and Frank Minnefield. We had two all Pro
linebackers talking about Chip Bangs and Clay Matthews. But we
just didn't have that dominant pass rusher. We didn't have
that mouse, Garrett to say. And we told the defensive line,
I was thinking about how down south our whole dog
chased the cat. And I said, we're gonna think of
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you guys as a dog, and you think of the
quarterback as a cat.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
We're gonna bark at you. And when we do, you
just rare back and go get it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And like I said, the fans were so close, we
start bar before everybody was the whole defense, not just
the defensive line the whole team and then to answer
your question.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
When immediately immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And tried to trademark the whole thing, and NFL properties
already had it. So if you're gonna if anything in
the NFL, they are on it.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Why why It's just like you know the Redskins, the Hogs,
you remember that, Yes, yeah, all that, man, NFL properties
they get that. I don't know how they do it
so fast?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
What like how did that happen? Yes? Like how did
they do like? How did that have it so fast?
You just said it one time?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Hey, hey they have they have their spies or whatever
in each city, but they had it all ready locked
up and we were sick too, sick to you imagine
all the money that's and that still making off, the.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Dogs still making everything.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Ah, these guys NFL, I mean listen, NFL made a
great life for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But man, they're good what they.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Do, no questions, no question good.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And so what made you as your I know you
went one years with the practice squad with San France. Okay,
what made you come back to Cleveland and just stay
in Cleveland?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Ultimately?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah? Uh, you know you talk about San Francisco. I
was going to go there and I was going to
play a year. And what happened.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I tore my quad and uh, and they wanted to operate,
and I said, man, the hell with that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I said, I'm not going to go through no operation
or something stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I said, I'll just go ahead and retire, and pretty
much retired Cleveland Brown And but I.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Came back here because after being here for so long, uh,
you know, like nine ten years, I just it just
felt like home.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And you know, I could relate to the people, relate
to the fans, and you know, I still go back
home a lot, but this just felt like home.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And you're talking about old, young, young.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Country boy from Theodore Mobile, Alabama. When I, uh, when
I when I got here, I said, well, you know,
I thought I never wanted to come here because it
was too cold.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I said, Now you can't get rid of me. Now, yeah,
you can't get rid of me.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So but I just love it, hear to tell you
the truth, And the people are just so warm and caring,
and that's.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Why I love Player ninety five point nine FM with
Hampford Dixon to the.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Top Dog here. What does it feel like your NFL peers.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Everybody in the in the in thee hundred years of
the NFL ranked you and Frank Minifil number two as
number two best tandem in NFL history. Should be number one. Honestly,
in my book, you number one. Seriously, we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, it feel it feels pretty good. It would feel
a lot better if we don't want a Super Bowl
because I know that's that's keeping a lot of us
out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Uh, I still think it's an accomplishment because there's a
lot of great tandems as far as cornerback in the
National Football League and for them to uh have us
ranked number two. Still again, we would much rather be
number one, but it still means a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
To us because boy, you know, that's a tough, tough position.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I mean, every single play you're going against the world
class athletest, the fastest players in the world, and uh
and then you got those quarterbacks that are throwing BB's
and darts to them. So it fel it feels pretty good.
So we're pretty happy with that. I think it's a
great accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, I think you guys names will be spoken enough
for talking about not just one lockdown corner. You usually
have the best corner, then you have your secondary cornery.
He's just as good, but not quite there. You guys
were both number one corners on a defense.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes, and Frank and I.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
What we did was we really pretty much uh was it?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We complimented each other very very well.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And one thing that really made us really really good
was we were students of the game, meaning that we
studied really really a lot talking about our posing h
receivers because we wanted to know what they were going
to do when they line up in this formation. When
we were out there on the field, it was like
a computer going off in our head. For instance, when
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they come out of that when they come out of
the huddle, we take a look at them, we see
what formation they're in, they go in motion, we pretty
much know what they're going to try to do to us,
and we.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Kind of just let it keep running running in our head.
And like I said, we.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Not only was we were good, but we were always
too well prepared.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Guys, very well prepared.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
When we talk about football and we're on a call
because it's nast next week, National High School Hall of
Fame is in there, you'll be around there.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Tell us a little bit about that, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know, I'm kind of excited about that too.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Got the call that Frank and I were both going
into the High School Hall of Fame, and I think
that's going to be a I think they have some
activities on the thirteenth and the fourteenth, both days, and
I think the it's gonna be down in Canton, and
we're pretty excited about that. And we're also pretty honored
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to go in there because there's gonna be players going in.
I think Warren Moon, I think ray Lewis, Eric Metcalf who.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Is who played with us, He's also one of the guys.
Michael Vick is another one.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I mean, you're talking about a who's who of names
and ex players that are going into this thing. So
pretty pretty excited and really honored that they think enough
for Frank and myself to have us being on that list,
so kind of looking forward to it.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
That is awesome being I mean, just being recognized, you
already recognized, we recognized as one of the top high
school players is huge, right, I mean, but Dan, you
just all the way down that shouldn't tell me that
you shouldn't that should tell anybody, any of the media,
that you should make the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, like I said, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You know, I know if we have won at least
one of them made it to one one of those
Super Bowls, would have definitely been in. But uh, but
that's okay, I mean, it is what it is. But uh,
just just happy and it's still the possibility. But we
hope to get in there one day.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
We hope, and I think you will get in one day.
Let's talk about these Cleveland Browns here. Okay, the last
five years, it's been like a roller coaster and we've
seen now I know you cover it now, you have
your own show with my homegirl Gabby. Shout out to Gabby,
and I know we've just been through a lot of
emotional things to the Browns. Where are the state of
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the Browns right now as we speak?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You know, I was actually went over there yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I seen I was there too.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I walked, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, they
have the OTAs.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Right and you know what, I think, I really think
that the Browns right now are flying under the radar.
I think we are going to be a lot better
than a lot of people think that we're going to
be because when you look at it, and you look
at what Andrew Berry and you look at Stefanski, what
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they've added to this team this year, I'm pretty.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Excited about it. I was a little bit upset at.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
First when we moved from number two to number five.
We took the kid Mason Graham. I was a little
bit upset by that because I thought Carter was there.
I thought Hunter was there, and I thought the running
back out of Boise he was there. And I would
want to see us take one of those guys. But
that's okay, we moved down. I'm going to give Mason
Graham a chance. I also think that we addressed the
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running back position. We got those two, one of them
from Ohio State and the.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Other ones from DNC and these bags.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Man, let me tell you something, those boys, I guarantee you.
You know, you hate to lose Nick Chubb because he's
such a great guy and a team player. But I
think these two guys are just gonna not gonna miss
a beat.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think what we really really need to improve is
we need to do something about that about those wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
And I know the moves there.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
We got Jerry Judy, who who's gonna be our number
one guy? But Uh, I think, like I said, I
think we're riding under the radar. But I think we're
gonna be okay this year because we have to be
because that AFC North is strong and it is tough.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The quarterback position, I mean that room is just absolutely filled.
We got four actually five with one that's probably gonna
go on o R. But I'm telling you guys, watch
and see what I tell you. Watch Sanders watching, watch him,
watch it because that kid and he understands that everybody
passed over. And I think he's gonna he's gonna show
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him that he deserved to be in this league. I mean,
come on to get to pick up this guy? And
five is steal. I'm wondering what was Pittsburgh's thinking thinking
about it? You know, they need a quarterback that's worse
than anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You know, It's.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, they passed on him, said, are you kidding me? Right? Happy?
I'm just happy we got him.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And uh, and I hope this kid just come out
and just show them all that they made a mistake
on it.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
You mentioned you mentioned the receivers and I don't know,
Andrew Berry has been a pretty good, adequate GM, right.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
I have the issue with we have yet to draft
a really good receiver and and I look at our
receiver courts and I say, yeah, we're not going to
do well when when people started to stack the line
and the way the office is built, the office of
routes are not built for the receivers to create for
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them to get open, like they got to kind of
create themselves. And I have yet to see a receiver
pop out in these OTAs like oh that's him.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, yeah, I hope uh Tillman.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You know, obviously he's a big, big target who we
d you know a few years ago. Hopefully he'll come through.
I know, we just signed a kid, Jalen Gil We
just signed him. Uh so I but we still need
to make a big splash as far as as far
as that's concerned, because when you look at I'm just
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gonna give an example, when you look in that AFC
North for instance, the Baltimore Ravens, who uh man, I'll
tell you what they just signed with, Shark Bateman, you know,
gave him I think it was a three year, thirty
six million dollar contract, and uh, you know they got
Flowers and DeAndre Hupkins, I mean so, and then you
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know you got Lamar Jackson who was throwing those bebes
to those guys. And then you turn around and you
look at the Cincinnati Bingos. You got Joe Burrows and
we know, uh, the two the two wide receivers they
got over there.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Then there's the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So that whole AFC North is pretty strong and it's
doing nothing but getting stronger.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So we if we're going to.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Do anything, we have to keep up with first of
all the teams in our division.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And I think we will.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
But I still again, and I think you agree with
me that we need to make some kind of splash
at that wide receiver position.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, we need good splash.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Can we talk about when we talk about today's football
and how it's played, we need some to win them
games when they's stacked up, and we need to make
exposive plays.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And I just don't think we have it at this
moment to be able.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
To well, I had some enough to cut you off.
I had some fun yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, are you good.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
With Jared Judy over there? And I said, big dog
I tie you up right now. I said, take you
right now. I won't let you off the lot of
scrimmage that I had him laughing because I said, Jerry,
I said, if I let you off a lot of
scrimmage right now, I can't behind you, big dog. I
can't afford to let you Allso, but I think it's
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great for someone like him to not have you know,
he doesn't This is not otes is not mandatory for him.
But he's still there because he understands the importance of
getting getting there, trying to establish some kind of rhythm
with those new quarterback and especially with this new offense
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that's going on right now.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, and how much new other this office is new,
because if I'm understanding, it's still Stefanski's isc type offense.
Or how much Tommy Reeves have his influence, or we
forget Bill Musgrave is in the building. Yeah, yeah, like
we're forgetting about like he's not there.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, but you know, I think pretty much he's gonna,
believe it or not, I think Stefanski is gonna let
Tommy Reeves pretty much run the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
What yeah, hold up, hold up, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We all find that hard to believe. You, but uh,
I think uh. And I did talk to h. Stefanski yesterday.
I didn't talk to him about this, but I did
talk to him yesterday. We were just getting around, joking
around a little bit. But I think he's.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Going to I think he's gonna lay back and.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Let tom He's gonna have his input. You know that
he's gonna put his input in. But I think he's
gonna let let it pretty much be Tommy's uh offense
to uh to run with.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I'm gonna hold this to you because I'm gonna see
you at the mini cab and everything goes so every
day that I see you at the first game.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm gonna hold this to you.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I know you should have Brett listen breaking breaking news.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Wow if But so, here's the thing, and to your point,
Tommy Reese is an upcoming offs the coordinator. He is
a former quarterback. He sees the game a little bit differently.
He seems it from a quarterback lens. We'll forget we
do have Bill Musgrave who's ran offices before, right, so
I think that is a plus for Stefanski.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Hey, Doug, you got you got to give tell me
some uh some credit to because I'm from Alabama. Obviously
I went to Southern mess but I still had scholarships
to Alabama off and all the big schools.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And uh uh you know.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I still have people in my family that are
still mad at me today because I didn't go to Alabama.
But you know, but uh, you know, I had my
reasons for going to Hannesburg.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I bet you did.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I bet you did. Between the lines, don't you're talking.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
About we can talk about it, and now it was illegal,
not legal, you don't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I had, I had, Uh, I think years ago, a
few years back, I had Eric Dickerson talking about He's like, yeah,
I had the car like he was talking about all
day long.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's funny. I mean, but but what.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Real quick before you can tell you about Tommy Reese,
before you can too, we'll go right for that. How
much was that bag?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
What did they give you?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You said, what did they give me?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah? What was that bag? Looking like, hey, big god, I.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Didn't get a bag. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh he's still being quiet about.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It, big dog. I have you know that was illegal
back then? You know, we couldn't we couldn't do that
big dog.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Listen, he got it. That that tells me how I
forgot the bag. He's just not talking about it. He
ain't talking about he got it. Though he got it.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He got it. I ain't mad at it. I would
I was in that position, I would have got it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I always say if I was in that position, I
wouldy ran for it too. I'm sorry, you try to
tell me, Try to tell me. Nobody get the bags now.
That's why. That's why Alabama and the rest of the
teams are mad now because it's legal.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Everybody could joined.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Oh no, you got shout out to my guys over
in Sacramento State. But Sacramento State, you know who's moving
up to FBS in a couple of years, just got
like a hundred million dollar endownment or however it was
fifty million just for yeah, crazy crazy. Back to Tommy Reese,
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what have you seen from him at practice, like as
the command of the offense and installing as much as
you can see.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, you know, I've only, like I said, I've only
been out there once and that was yesterday. But I'm
going to start to I'm gonna start to get out
there a little bit more now. Because you know next
week they have a mandatory mandatory mini camp uh coming up,
And that's when I want to get there, when you
got everybody in there, and you got all the boys
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and and see, now they run a little seven on seven,
but they don't run any one on one in the OTAs.
I want to get there when you see the quarterback
and receiver really get together and they're going one on
one pretty much against the defensive backs, the corners, the safetyes.
And then you'll see the running backs pretty much going
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one on one against the linebackers. So I'll see what
kind of chemistry they have been and what's going on
pretty much with them and how they're coming along. But
like I said, I've only been out there once, and
I'll get a chance to check.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
All that out.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Okay, cool, Cool.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
I mean it's gonna be a wonderful listen with the
door standers there, a lot of media is going to
be there. It's gonna be far for the Cleveland Browns.
And I think one thing I've seen in practice yesterday
was the defensive guys are very into the practice.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, very into the practice.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, you know, the defensive guys, they always want to
try to beat up on the offensive guys and it's
so funny. But one thing they better not do. They
better not come anywhere close are near to that quarterback.
I guarantee you that, because that is a no, no,
you can't, you can't.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You can't get anywhere near those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
But it's all, you know, it's all pretty much a
fun competition which bring out the best in everybody, because
that's what it's all about, the players going against against
each other, trying to make each other better.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I think that's what we'll do.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
What would you tell What would you tell a free
agent or or a current Cleveland Brown's player that's that's
in the free agency or contemplating move somewhere, is.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
What would you tell you? What would you tell them?
Why excuse him? Run that back?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Why would they want to stay in Cleveland? What speech
would you give them?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, you know the thing is now, I mean it's
not just that you have.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
The fans and all that today is not enough for
these guys because with the kind of money that they're
paying right now, I mean you can have another team coming,
you know, just like Deshaun for instance, I mean wherever
he was, I mean he I'm sure he was happy there,
but you came and look at the contract we offer him.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Kid, It's just like to put it to you this way.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
One season sixty.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You know where you are right now. You're in that studio.
You got your own little thing going on, and you
want to stay there.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But they come to you and they say, hey, you know,
we got a bag for you, and that bag is
pretty heavy.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You know you're gonna tell you know I love you.
You know I love you. Guys.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
First of all, you give him the opportunity to match it, right,
but if they can't match it, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You got to go.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
The Brinks truck come, you got you gotta sit back
and talk to the talk to the wife a little
bit like hold.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Up right, I guarantee, but I guarantee you this.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
If they coming offer you pretty much similar to what's
going on right now. You're gonna stick around because you
love Cleveland, you love the surrounding areas, So you're gonna
stick around. But if it's the number that you just
can't turn down, I mean it is what it is,
you gotta go. And you can't blame anyone for that.
I mean you, you just can't blame any of these players. Obviously,
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we want to keep them all here. That's why, if
it makes sense to us, we have to do what
we have to do to get them on the contract
and keep them here. It's just like I look at
the Baltimore Ravens, Derrick Henry and Derrick Henry. They just
gave him a two year extension thirty million dollars because
they want to keep him around, even though Dereck Henry
is getting up there in age and people say you
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don't pay running back. But again you're talking about Derrick Henry.
So that's the way it works.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That's the where it work.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
We got the number one cornerback every NFL history. I
don't care what anybody else say. I'm going to say it.
I almost stick to it. I'm gonna stick to it
straight man and man, no zone freight NFL have for
Disson Dixon. Listen, man the man with no zone back then.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
No man, the man big dog, bumper, run, bumper run
right let up. And when we say bumping round, were
talking about bump and run. We're not talking about let
him run. You got to you got to take them
away at the lot of scrimmage. What is they say
it's bumping around, but you watch them, A lot of
them they're afraid to bump because they're afraid to miss.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It because they know if you miss him. You know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I remember I was playing against a guy from the
Jest named Lamb Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Lamb Jones, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
World class printer, world class, and I knew you're talking
about every single play. You had to concentrate on him
when you're up there bumping and running because again, can't
miss it. You cannot miss it. And if you miss him,
you hope.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
You have the dB gard with you.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Because you miss was over. Yeah, you know you're looking
at his number, look at the back of this cleat
like everything.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
You're like, man, yeah, some nice clicks he got one, man.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I trust me. I don't.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
High school, I played quarterback and then I and I switched.
I play a quarterback down switched over to receiver when
I went to college for for for a semester or two.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But yeah, yeah, I wasn't. The dB tried it.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I would have loved it, but unfortunately I was better offensively.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
We gotta have for Dixon in a bit different listen.
High school next next week is the High School Hall
of Fame June thirteenth through the fourteen. Make sure you
check my guy out, he's gonna be there. Also, talk
about your show you have with Gabby.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
We me and Gabby we you know, we we it's
such a good chemistry and we really get along.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, I love you.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I give her a hard time on the air because
I tell her, I said, Gabby, I talked to so
many people and they say they're watching our show. But
I said, what they really tell me was that they
don't watch the show because of me. They watched the
show because they want to see you and not me.
And you know, she just laughs. She just laugh at
me all the time, because you know, Gabby is.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I have.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I have watched her on my show, our show, and
some of the other shows, and I'm telling you, she
is just phenomenal. She just gets better, better and better.
And we feed off each other, and Pat, who is
our producer, we feed off each.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Other so well.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
And I've had, for instance, I've had Ozzie on the show.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I've had a bunch of the boys on the show.
And the closer.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
We get to the season, it a heat up again
where that's when I'll start bringing in like a lot
more of my guests. I'm gonna have I'm gonna get
the fans, and i'm gonna get all them boys on
this time.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
So and big Dog, we got to get you on
there too. You gotta come on with it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Absolutely, let's go. I love Gabby, I love you guys show.
I do watch it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I am.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I'm a cleaner fan of anybody that's doing anything sports
media or doing something that represents Cleveland to the fullest.
And so that's what we do. I appreciate you coming on.
I will see you next week.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Hey, Hey, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It's sorry took us so long to get on here, man,
but yeah, I'm happy to be all with you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I'm gonna always listen. You don't have to ask twice
to get on the WOVU.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Once I get my camera working correctly this next time,
you can see me. But listen, you can always come
on come on to the show. Anybody, your former teammates,
you just pull up, you can come in. There's no
appointment needed, just coming to the studio.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You got a big dog.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I appreciate you so much. Man. There it is ninety
five point nine FM half for Dixons.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
In the building, he pulled up man and showed up
and showed out.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Guys. Check him out next week. The High School National
Hall of Fame is here in Katon, Ohio,
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