June 26, 2025 • 48 mins
Former NFL cornerback TJ Carrie joins DJ Kristyles to talk about his journey from the field to philanthropy. He reflects on his career in the league, the heart condition that nearly sidelined his dreams, and how it all led to the creation of the TJ Carrie Foundation. Focused on empowering youth—especially those with heart conditions—Carrie shares how his foundation’s programs are changing lives across the country.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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(00:27):
nine years dB. I don't say safety a corner anymore
because it's the game changes to say dB. Everybody's dB. Amazing,
amazing story guys. If you guys didn't hear about it,
I had a hard condition. I think it was a
slight tear of your heart, right, Yeah, I don't write
a brand coronary artery.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So a situation where you're artery born with a birth defect,
you're born with the artery in the wrong position in
your heart, and they gotta go in there and kind
of stitch you back up and get you back.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, and they said, nope, you're not going to better play.
You shouldn't do it. One hit and it's over. I
remember reading the story already, one hit and it's over.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Over, So yeah, it's it's It was a great opportunity
to really share some light and awareness on how important
it is to get tested man, in terms of just
understanding that sometimes you think all is well, in terms
of being a young athlete, young scholar. You out there
playing running, Hey, I'm good, and something happens where it's like, okay,
(01:34):
what's going on? And if it wasn't for a normal
test routine. Ekg echo test man, I don't know if
we'd be sitting here talking.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Today as you speak about that. I went to India
a month ago, marsh past that. I went to India.
When I got there, my heart was again, I'm having
crazy feeling about my heart beats. I started coughing and
this is going for a while. So to literally two
(02:01):
weeks ago, I was like, you know what, I got
to go get this checked and TJ, I actually have
a monitor on now wow or anything. I feel president.
I got another go see the heart specialists soon because
I just don't know, like it just says nah, nah,
I gotta get this thing checked out. So as you
talk about it, fellas you need to go and check
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on your body, check on you. And how did you know,
like how did you know that I needed to go?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so I when I was in high school. So
my procedure happened when I was fifteen years old, and uh,
I used to pass out and blackout all the time
on track practice, football practice. You just out there running
and just fall down and you wake up like what happened?
And so you know, the shortness of breath, the chest plains,
all of the kind of the symptoms of sometimes in
(02:52):
sports seems as though you're out of shape, like, hey,
you just need some more conditioning, right, But now it's
time to be in a phase where you're looking internally
more in the defined process. And so now the routine
e kgs, the echo test that you know, some of
the doctors, the hospitals, right, those are important, so you know,
(03:12):
and then as we grow up and as become older men, right,
there's a lot of Cleveland Clinic does a phenomenal Men's
Day event, right, So there's a lot of different events
that you can go and partake in these free screenings.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You just got to be active. Man, got to be active, absolutely, man,
black man especially. I know the thing with the doctor
that said, I'm gonna tell you what did you eat?
The healthy as you want? You all the great foods
whatever God postoleed it to your body. I'm telling you God,
(03:44):
check it out. So you went through the procedure, they
said this, you couldn't do this. What made you say,
you know what, I'm going to defy these odds and
make this happen. Because I know it was a point
where you send down and your mom probably said some
of your pops, your people with your friends, your high
school coach.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, No. The biggest thing is I come from
a football family. Right, So five siblings, four older three
older brothers. They all play ball, you know, and we
all played ball. We all played football specialty. And it
was kind of like the following the footsteps of the
older brothers, the mentors, right, the people that you look
(04:23):
up to, And that phase was just okay, well, what's
this process? What are the steps? Okay, what's the obstacles?
You know, you pray to the men above and through
the grace of God, we took the opportunity to have
the surgery Valentine's Day, actually, we had open heart surgery,
and from there, of course the obstacles and anything in life, right,
(04:46):
success doesn't come easy. It comes with a price, and
there's sacrifices that need to be made. And at that
point in time, it was how do we get back
to a phase where we can compete and play at
a high level going into high school. And so that
phase took a lot of day definitely grewsome days. It
took a lot of perseverance and support, which is what
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it's always in. It's going to be a key factor
in kind of keeping you going.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And plus you went to one of the football factories.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, high University man coach Solis Frank the Tank I
call him. I actually just retired a few years ago.
He did retire, Yeah, and it was phenomenal to see
man going to traveling first of all, traveling across the world.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm from Cali. I'm a caliboy today. I sell high
school a big time school. Did you guys lose in
the game there? I know y'all had streaks four or
five years undefeated.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean you know what thirteen years man, we went
thirteen years undefeated. My oldest brother actually Rinard, who was
my trainer at the time. Uh, he was on those
teams that were able to go thirteen years. When I
played there, I still went undefeated right my season one
state championship.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So it was still a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But yeah, I mean that opportunity to go to the
school with that much prestige and to allow them to
consistently they're building young men from a responsibility standpoint, discipline standpoint,
and those traits is what I used to carry on
to going to Ohio University.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
County. Right, I'm pretty sure you have more offers than
how University, but you did have again, yeah, part of
them the heart issue. So I know universities with skeptical Yeah,
and that was a phase, man, that was a process.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
A lot of the schools around California, of course they
seen that going through that procedure did it did put
some obstacles in a way to say that, hey, we're
not necessarily sure on what he has or what is
going on. And so of course instead of the full ride,
they offer you the partial. You can come in there,
you can work your way up to the to the
(06:59):
love the food chain and you know you can get that.
And you know at the time, fortunately having older brothers
who've been to uh build our name up in the
in the community. One of my older brothers played at
a school in New Mexico State, and uh his coach
was the coach at Ohio University, and it was like, hey, man,
I got another young brother coming out, you should take
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a look.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And it was.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
From that relationship that we were able to go up there,
take a visit and say, all right, this is home,
this is the next phase.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And that was phenomenal. Man, the biggest party school of
the nation weekend. Yeah, he found out real fast.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I did, man, And it's you know, of course it
was a big culture change.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But one thing I love about Ohio and still to
this day is the culture of people. Man. You know
what I mean, it's a it's a phenomenal opportunity to
raise a family. From what I see. I have, you know,
kids myself, and uh, you know, if you can get
past the winners, get you got to get past them.
And I'm still a Cali boy at heart. So you know,
(08:04):
I'm never getting used to this winter a out here.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I got soft because I was away for a long time,
came back. You're like, man, I need on the trip.
I'm to the point where I almost want to be
a snowbird. Okay, Like listen, Northeast Ohio, Cleveland, I'm begging
up with anybody in the summertime. Summertime, I will I
will go total. I will go to toe any city
like trust me. It's just those when when October rode
(08:31):
around and he's like, you start thinking again, Yeah, I
love my city. So you went to Owe, you played football,
defight all the odds. Yeah. Man. Then we talked NFL.
I know you drafted seventh round. I think Oakland Raiders,
(08:52):
Raiders hometown, but yeah, hometoime. I know when how what
we did through the draft process because you had a
good you had a really good career yeah in college.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, the draft process it was, man, it was one
of those feelings where you have this vision and you
walk into the vision and it now becomes a reality,
you know, And it's an amazing feeling for everyone that has,
you know, written down their goals written down, the process
(09:26):
of what it's going to take to achieve those goals understood,
the sacrifice that goes along with those goals, the perseverance,
the hard work, the determination right to say that you
embody yourself to do that, to say all right, this
is going to take five, ten, fifteen years, and you
get to that fifteenth year and it's like, wow, we're here,
(09:47):
You're here, We're here.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know, it's just one of your name called.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man, just hearing it called man, and then not only
actually hearing it call, but going back to my hometown
and playing in front of family only friends. You know
that I that I grew up with, that I played with.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It was just so real feeling. And I think that's
one of the blessings of above continuing warding you for
you know, staying true to who you are and and
believing in the process, having that faith unwavering.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's it's just amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
For you to go and still be drafted by hometown
and then NFL career at a seventh round pick. People
gotta understand this. Yeah, now it's changed within the nine years.
Now later picks are are are being valued a lot
more because and this is a whole other conversation off camera,
(10:43):
we can tell you why. It's a lot to do
with training, people being overvaluated and things like that. But
that's another another session, another talk. But for you to
be the seventh round pick the about time you got
I think, what was that your not guaranteed money, so they.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Get maybe a year deal. Yeah, they give you, man,
I mean seventh round. I mean you you're in some
ways appreciationing and you are in the same right and
it's like you know, seventh round picks, they're not You
may get picked, but it's that doesn't mean you'll make
the team. They gave you thirty five thou camps. Yeah,
you know, yeah, quick, you know, you get something. And
(11:22):
I think it's it's a it's another situation where I
think some in some instances, we believe that we don't
have to continue to prove ourselves in certain facets or industries.
And I think being in the seventh round, and even
when you get to more years of being in the
league or further lead further into a veteran status, right
(11:42):
that you you just got to pull yourself even more,
right because they keep coming in.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, it's like coming try to replace you right now,
right now, you know. And so you know that's where
I just man, nah, no, you know, because at the
end of the day, and then we'll Sildbart. At the
end of the day, it's about making the most money
(12:07):
by paying the least, yeah, right, and find somebody just
like you to do it cheaper, to do it cheaper. Yeah,
I figure out a way. That's you just the bond
the fire star. Yeah. And you know, and then sometime
they get ready to get rid of the get one
of them too. You know, you become too pricey, terry
kill listen, get you out of here, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So you know, for anyone that's in the business in
any form of facet man, they always coming.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It ain't gonna never stop. That's what I say about
the DJ business. I'm like, listen, young dude's gonna be nice.
They're gonna come. I just gotta keep my lane and
keep what I needed to be doing. So you seven
the third year Oakland, fourth year Oakland. What was that
first big contract?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Oh man came to the Browns man want yeah, dog
ploun and uh, passionate organization, passionate fans man, you gotta
love it play here two years and it was phenomenal
from here being able to transition our family to actually
be here and raise a family here.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So yeah, because you was Indiana, you went to Carolina,
you could have you could legitimately stayed in care Carolina, Charlotte.
I know what Charlotte looking like right now, and that
was last year, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you was right there in Charlotte. You couldn't say
found Yeah, this this may be it right here, right
We're gonna stay right here.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But you know, Charlotte, got Atlanta and you got to Florida.
Right there, everything down south, you're close right there. And
Charlotte was amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Man. I tell people, now, I met a couple of
people from Charlotte, Like, it is beautiful out there.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Man, if you guys got a chance to go out there,
he goes, go to Charlotte. The stadium's right down town. Like, legitimately, yeah,
right there. You've never seen it before. You have to
see it. Understanding people that I got to see that,
Understand what I said.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Legitimately right down town, man, everything is around there, the
practicabilities down there. So it's a phenomenal practice, everything, everything,
everything's right there the first time I had seen it
like that in that facet. But you know, Cleveland is
phenomenal and it's great. It's it's allowed us to have
staple grounds and a lot of the things that we do,
especially when we started our foundation. You know, all of
(14:18):
that started to all that started in Cali, right, and
so the transition out here and to do some of
the programming that we do out here is it's been phenomenal, man.
And it's a lot of support. One of the things
that I love about Cleveland is. You know, everyone is
in their niches, but they're all trying to help. You know,
they're all trying to help in some way to uplift,
build and uh, you know, provide an avenue for you
(14:39):
to be successful. And that's you know, it's not like
that everywhere. And I don't think, you know, I think
the people of Cleveland may be a little spoiled in
thinking that, you know, maybe it's not enough. But man,
I tell you, in California, man, it's it's sharks south here.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, that's why I tell a lot of people about
well Cleveland. Listen, you go to another set, trust me,
it's like that ten times over. You get the glitter
of the glam because you think it's the bigger cities.
And trust me, when we talk about the basic bottom
line of things, it is a shark out there. Cleveland
can do a lot of good things here. A lot
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of you guys stay. You know, every time I talk
to an athlete or someone comes through who having to
stay here, they're like, oh, y'all, lovely, I still have
a house here. I mean, coach Mike Brown up until recently,
for you know, it was the secondment you had had
a house in Cleveland. You know, it's just people just stay.
I still got my house. Quietly, I heard what is
(15:38):
the actor name from a pirate of the Caribbeans, Depp,
they say, quietly, giant depth, being and out of Ohio.
You know, they say, I don't don't call me about her.
He's in and out of Ohio. It's no different than
people buy buy a landout in Montwna. Yeah too there.
(15:59):
I went to them to states. They're great. Yeah, I
can understand why I haven't been. I got to check
it out. Man. My wife we took a the motor
water home thing, Okay, four states south to cordon off
the courting my time in Wyoming. Drove up there, drove
up there with it with the r V, and I
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understand why that you would buy laying out there. And
that's all. If if I had an enormous amount of
money like I got, I would do that. Wow, I
literally legitimately do that. And so let's talk about your foundation.
You started this foundation ten years ago, right when you
got into the league. Obviously you got to leave. What's
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the amazing thing it wasn't Yeah, I started three years
after I retired, right, it was, this is what I got.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, And it was all through the process of just
having a belief man, that this is possible. And I
think sometimes we need to see it first in order
for others to believe it right and no different than
a lot of things that seem impossible at first and
then someone does it and it's like, oh, it's possible.
(17:15):
Oh well, we all can do it now. And so
with that mentality started the foundation to support families with
congenital heart disease, you know, helping them socially and emotionally
through different programmings that we've been able to accomplish and
create with the sole purposes to give them encouragement and
the opportunity to still have the belief that you can
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do it right, that your dreams are not over. And
it started with our Shadow Ready program where we were
going into hospitals Oakland children, Stanford's Children's and just talking
to parents, talking to young heart warriors and hearing about
their story, you know, understanding that hey man, I understand
that process. And you may have loved sports in sports
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are still avenue that you could pursue, but maybe you train,
maybe you coach right, maybe you provide nutrition right. So
there's so many ways to still be a part of
something that you ultimately love. And so it's just been
a phenomenal opportunity and allowed us to really expand and
do a lot more, and we.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Talk about doing a lot more just going on to
the third year of this. Is it a run walk?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, five K hardware or run walk man, And it's
a phenomenal opportunity. The first year we did it downtown,
second year and this year we're actually doing it at
the Soviscally Towpath right there in Treatmont and different course,
but an opportunity again. You know, it's a five k,
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so you can either walk a mile we got the
hundred yard kids dash, and then you can run you know,
the three point one miles.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
An opportunity for us to still get our heart warriors
out there who kind of battled the mentality that I
can't do as much. Right, Get you out there and
see that, man, there's other heart warriors just like you
out there running right. You know, some of our heart
warriors last year they ran almost the whole five k,
if not the whole five k, right, And so it's
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an opportunity for you to see that, hey, there's someone
that's just like me that's able to do this, and
it give you the encouragement to say, Okay, I can
do it. Maybe let me look at this a little
different and just from a standpoint for even mom and
dad to look at it and say, wow, you went
through that and you're doing your son or daughters doing this. Okay,
what did you do? How did you do it right?
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And I think that's the biggest thing that we continuously
try to build.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And that sense of community. Yes, you know, that sense
of community. I think that's the biggest thing about it.
That they have a village that helped them out and
everything else. I think that's the number more thing. TJ.
Caerrey is in the build nine year NFL, but I
you got to say that, you got to spit that
out there because they're nine years in the league. Man.
(20:00):
It's people can't do ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah man, Yeah, the industry average is what three? So
to say you know that we beat a lot of
odds is, like I said, true testament.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
To the man. You though, just wanted to go get it. Yeah, yeah,
you know, just wanting to make it happen. And then
we talk about when we see the kid they got
Buffalo bills. Uh the more Hemlin, Yeah, yeah, that that part.
Did you reach out to him, did you have a
conversation with him?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah? We we actually worked with him and his team
to pass House Bill forty seven, which is the bill
now to continuously have an emergency action plan for all
the you know and institutions that have facilities teaching a
CPR right and having a d.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Available talk about ad Shout out to Nicole Ward. Nicole, Yeah,
she uh Avid Avid for that she We have one
in our building now about a d S and I
think we should want to know more about them. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And it's it's interesting because when we worked on passing
that bill and you know, to make them know your
name foundation, they were a part of that process as well.
It was the being conscious of where ADS at, right,
And I don't know if many of you all don't
know their story, you know, go to their website, but
the aed of knowing simply how it works was crucial, right.
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And so as you walk around now when I'm walk
in the building, I'm like, Okay, where's the AD at?
So just another important phase of how us as a
community in terms of different organizations are out there continuously
to advocate for the awareness of what's going on and
us just being able to take note that being healthy
(21:41):
is a part of the process, right, and it's also
steps to it. So the continuous belief of us continuously explaining,
all right, this is what you should do, this is
how you should eat, right, and the whole five k.
Never ran a five k in my life before we
did our first five k, right, and so did our
first five k, and I was like, okay, I need
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to start running a little bit more, right, right. You know,
playing in the National Football League, you don't run long distance.
Different different running, different running, you know. So yeah, man,
excited for this opportunity. June twenty eighth, if you all
are around, go to the TJ. Kerrey Foundation dot org website. Yes,
tune in and log on. If you want to be
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a part of the run walk, come out there and
see if you can beat my time. Now, listen my
first time twenty five. I think I did twenty five
twenty five minutes for the first five k. Last last
year it was twenty seven, but I only contribute the
two extra minutes because the whole mile and a half
was uphill on the way back. Okay, so now I'm
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They gave you the uphill on the way.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Back and uphill you know, so you gotta have some
you gotta have some fight in you to go all
a mile and a half downhill and then about one
point six back uphill on the leg back.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So now this is a tough one. He did not
give you an easy route for a fundraiser acknowledgement run.
I don't know why people would do that. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What we realized though, to be all in all fairness,
the first year we did it, it was a flat
course and our runners didn't really like the flat course.
It was too easy. So what we realized in the
running community is they want challenge.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They want something challenge, let's get it. Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You know we switched it up and we had a
man overall success of people loving a course, like, man,
this is phenomenal. And you know, the first course we
ran past the stadium rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know, you try to give a sight scene. I
don't want that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Give me some challenge. So it was it was a
good little transition. Man, I like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
What you're doing. And you know, for the community, and
this is for people to have the village to get
Like I'm saying, yeah that you're doing it with your
true heart. Uh no, Intendant, Yeah, but I love it man,
And again, w over you. I think this is our
third year if you.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Guys, Yeah, man, you've all been phenomenal. Man. Last year,
y'all came out with the popcorn, the prizes, the gifts,
had the tent, the music. It was.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Man. It was so much of an impact, right and
true testament to how important it is to have DJ Radio.
Right to be a part of that process because you
all too, the environment and the energy that's in that
community is all can be amplified through the process of
what y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Correct, you know, Yeah, we're part of it. Like I said,
we were running your spot like crazy. Yeah, you know,
making sure people involved. It just need to go down again.
He stayed in Cleveland. That's the big thing. He could
have got up and went back to Cali. The option
is there for all fransis family. Yeah, but he kind
(24:59):
of thought, h my friends is doing the exact same
thing they was doing ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Something. Man. Now now question now, who who in the
w O v U community is running uh in two weeks.
So that's what I want to know. Who who running
or who walking? And who who who getting out there
and being active.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I can do it. I didn't hear a lot of
confidence in that. Chiropractor comes on with on Tuesday or
Wednesday was Thursday? The way my sad set up. I
don't know if I can make it. You can walk.
I do walk with my wife and I did walk
up and walked them out, walked them out come, I
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walked them out. I'm telling you, if I'm not booked
on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Early morning, this is at eight a m. Now you
we'll be going.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I gotta be there part of the station. I gotta
be there anywhere. Yeah, I gotta be It's not like
I'm trying to be there anyway. I might do that.
I might do the five k. May not be a rundown.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Hey, however, you do it as long as you finished it.
Maybe a walk run, try drug.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's a it's a walk run. Yeah, the run when
you tired football practice, you try, yount know what it?
Mostly the lineman do it. It's like a walk run.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeahs, but their legs ain't going.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, they tried, man, they tried I just tell the athletes,
we're not trotting down here, got run It's basic skill. Guys.
Uh football? What you got? What you got going on?
What did you see? What was going on?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
You know? I mean, I be honest man trained dB, Yeah,
you know, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I told myself, you know, the investment in time that
is made and just playing is it's an investment. Man,
It's a major sacrifice. And I think that you know,
I'm a family. I got I got four little ones,
right and so well, coaching is in when it's with them.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
How about that? That makes sense?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah? But in terms of like college nfield, I think
the highest idol coaches is high school.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Man. I think even I just got to high school,
even then, is it still it's still time because because
you're a competitor. Yeah, you've been in league nine years.
I've not been in the league, but I played some
college I did somebody. I know how competitive I am
with the minds. I want my players to be this
like I want because the product you put out there
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is a representative of me. Yes, coach, So I want
you to know everything and I want you to win.
Will you be prepared to prepare. What that means, I'm
up all hours and like trying to make sure I
got you watching this. I get deep. My wife tells you,
like I used to be up watching the huddle. Ah
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they do this, or they do this or this, look
like this. Really, yeah, I was deep because I'm telling you,
if you go out there and they're not prepared, it's
on me. It's not on them. I don't expect them
to know they're young, high school. I don't expect it.
Plus I didn't get the top big athletes, right, so
that means these guys football I accuse this. So that's
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you're a capulatitive. So you're going to sit out there
and be like, nah, I can't have this. M you
went to daylight cell. Yeah you know how it's supposed
to your pride. Yeah, you're right. Your knowledge is not
going to allow you to not do it. So training
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I can see you're doing. Yeah it's easy.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Training.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, train man, you know you need training. You need training.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But see, the the process with training is is still
when what I learned about training, which is phenomenal. Right,
I'm glad I had my trainers throughout the league, and
it's phenomenal even all of my mentors, right I I
couldn't have done it with none of them. But when
you go train, you go train with the guy that
you want to train with. So that means everybody want
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to train with juice you. They don't want to train
with the assistant, They don't want to train with the
person you're training. No, I came here for you, for you,
So that again, it's kind of like, all right, well
you gotta be there, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And so I think that when I when I look.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
At just the process, it's in any way it's like
we say it's a sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Sacrifice it is. I trained, I trained quarterbacks. And I
don't take out a lot of clients. I take literally
one to three clients have four years for high school,
those the same ones. Yep, I can't take twenty. And
I think I'm robbing them up that personal interaction of
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putting my all into all in twenty kids. Now I'm
just having a factory of something that don't work, where
two or three kids, I think four years, I can
do this, I can do that, I can move around,
have time to do it. Yeah, there's people out there,
so I get it. I'm like, I want to tell
a done coaching. I got my yea, my last two
(30:16):
guys treading for quarterbacks. Okay, I'm just like all right,
and I'm just gonna watch and just cover the game.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But we do camps though, you know, part of our foundation. Yeah,
we do camps. Man. We've been doing our be a
Pro Football camp. We're still doing it this year California
at DLA South July twelfth. And every year we lined
up for that. Your line up for the coaches for
that one. So I've been yeah, we I mean, I
partnered with the War War Foundation TJ. Ward Toront Ward,
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you know both we all grew up in the community.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
War used to play here, right, so you know a
lot of the players that we play with, you know,
in that community. We come together and say, hey, man,
let's let's do a couple of camps a year, or
one or two camps where it's like we can put
some hands on experience with some of these kids in
the community. Right, And that camp is anywhere from you know,
eight to seventeen years old. And we basic fundamentals, because
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everyone thinks more than basic fundamental. Yeah, it ain't it
ain't right. We're gonna start with this and so you
start them young man, you can get them. So, you know,
we do camps like we we kind of pour into
the kids in that in that process, like it's a
four hour camp eight to twelve and we're going over
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everything footwork, tackling, catching, drill work from a dB standpoint,
safety work, running back standpoint. So it's it's an opportunity
for us to kind of continue to give back for
the for the young ones.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's fun to get. I was at the hostate camp
Raz last week. One of the players is in our
training group. I feel so embarrassed when they had a
heartline was there Okay, okay at the heart life because
he's doing it. He's a phenomenal coach, I'm gona tell
you because every when you at that level of a coach,
(32:05):
you don't have to be coaching these kids at the camp,
you have other coach from other colleges be there or
whoever your players. He was there the whole time and
it was a I think it was a regular. Was
it a dick? I think I think it was a
It was a It was a basic route and player
did all this extra stuff before he got into this.
(32:28):
In the middle of this route. Hardl was like, what
the hell was that? Now? Mind you, this is a kid.
I know they already got six offers, right, yeah, just
got one for pitt And what Harlan said, look like
what was what was like? What was like? What was that?
I didn't want that?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
This is Brian Harlot who put out all these number
one picks, and you did all this in front of him.
Tells me everything about what are you doing? What are
you watching online? Do you if you watch that now?
Like you watch these these these new age trainers as
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far as dB trains and now everybody's top dB trainer.
You know what. The guy who was a dB trainer
never that say you don't have to go to college
to do that, but if you're gonna do it, gonna
be up under somebody who doesn't, or you do a study.
But these guys come out and say I'm the top guy,
I'm the top trainer.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, I mean, you know, to be honest, man, the
top trainers something you won't even know who they are
unless you're in that space because they not the top
trainer don't need to be on social platforms, or he
don't need to be on none of those things.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Those are guys where it's like if you know, you know,
And I think what's happening in the industry now is
you know, social media's became what it is and it's
an amazing tool, but it's now it's like who's the
flashiest that I can be around? So I can I
want to work with that guy because I see him
doing this and it's like, I don't know, man, I mean,
(34:08):
it's just it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
A challenge, man.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
But you know, I think that like some of the
top guys, you know, they don't move the same way
that you would think. They move very silent, and there's
a lot of guys who work with the top guys
that you wouldn't know who work with the top guys, right,
And so I just think that go back to the
basic fundamentals man, tacklings is you tackle one way. You
(34:30):
tackle your feet work should be this way. Work on
things that apply to the game. Like if you go
watch your game right now, in any fast any sport,
if you go watch whatever you're watching and you're like, okay,
I do that move in the game, Go work on that, right,
don't work on you know something that you get to
the game, it's like the timing is off, Like that
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don't work.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You ain't going to use it? You do it extra sting. Yeah,
oh my goodness, I watched all the time. What what
do And we're gonna get a little bit about into
football right now since we've got a little bit of time.
It's got a little bit of time. What do NFL
coaches look for? What does that all look like? NFL coaching?
Like when you got there, you just you just left. Yeah,
what are they looking for? Because you've got all these
(35:15):
guys to come out? What separates from you being on
there for nine years and you've been on there for dominicaunt?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you know a lot of the
coaches they it's character. I mean the physical ability. When
you get to that level is everybody's pretty much good, right,
Like you come from being the best in your college
or whatnot to you. You get to the element where
it's like we all good, we all fast, we all quick, right,
(35:45):
and so then it becomes the little details like the character,
the discipline. Are you gonna if you see a weakness
within your craft, are you gonna stay extra or are
you gonna come in earlier?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
To work on that right, like.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You know, the response ability of Hey, coach said we
got to meet in at five am, don't come at
five ten like coach, I was sleep man, you know.
And so it's the whole mentality of be a pro.
And when I came in when I was younger, I
didn't really understand what that concept meant, but it was
be a pro means.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know, eat right. This is now your profession. This
is what you do right.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Take care of your body, get your massages, you know,
do your chiropractor right, do your stretching, study your film.
Don't go home and just not study. You're just like
any other tests that you're taking. You gotta study for right,
be accountable. Tell you this is what we're doing. But
believe in the project. This is how we plan this coverage.
Don't deviate from the plan. Now, if you can work
(36:45):
with whatever way you want to work, that still allows
you to make plays in any sport right within the
concept that we teach it, do it, you know. And
so of course there's always different levels to the craft
and the ability, but you know, I think those are
attributes that.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Coaches look at outside of athletics.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Man, I think you know, I think I don't want
anyone to feel that. Man. The talent is not gonna
get you there. Yeah, the talent is gonna get you there.
But what's gonna keep you there? Those other attributes that
you have, And sometimes we missed that understanding and that
concept of well do I need all these other things?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah? Man, because it's a necessity.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Man. And the coach is putting their name on the
line just the same way we just talked about when
they putting their name on the line to put this
player out there. They're trusting this player to represent them
because when the head coach come and talk to him,
it's like, hey, what is he doing? The coach got
to be able to say, well, you know you wanted us,
or you know, why is he in there?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Exactly? And so it's an effect.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
But they to our younger teams right now, man, first
get the books, you know, study, get to college, right
and I think nowadays these professionals, we got young CEOs
at seventeen years old. Man, your business business men women
sixteen fifteen. You gotta you know, you need an accountant
(38:13):
at seventeen years old, now, see, you know, so it's
interesting concepts. Yeah, Streamers so.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm looking at this. I love the love. I'm looking
at that that new fourteen draft, right, and I'm just
looking at you. You didn't do too bad for yourself. Yeah,
I ain't too bad because we look at you. No,
I ain't do too Oh yeah, uh Justin Gilbert, Kyle Fuller,
(38:41):
Calvin Pryor, Hah, Clinton Dix. I like I thought he
was going to be better than what he was. Yeah,
I remember, Uh dark Wez Gnar, Jason Verrett. I'm just
throwing some names out there that was drafted ahead of you.
Jimmy Ward, Bradley Roby wasn't too bad. I like Rope. Yeah,
(39:02):
Bradley war Roby wasn't too that. Uh Trade Boston out here,
Ricardo Allen. You know, actually my my cousin was in
that draft for Georgia Southern. Okay, Laville westbrooks Oh, I
think I was Ville Times in Cincinnati. Got drafted by Cincinnati. Okay,
(39:24):
I remember got drafted. Uh you got draft twenty nineteen,
he got twenty. He got it, excuse me nineteen. George
draft spot here was two fifty four. I Rememberville. Yeah,
he's down in Florida. He's a teacher. I think down there. Okay, principal,
but how did you feel when you look up? You
spend nine years and some of these guys in spend. Yeah, man, hey,
(39:48):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
But that's to say, like he goes back to what
you were saying about all the things that come before that.
Just the athletic ability. Man, it's just so much of it.
And uh, you know the discipline that it tells. I
tell all now, just the discipline that required, like you
get weight checked every week NFL college.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Now you have, and he implemented some things because now
that didn't rule on the nil at the university, give
it directly to you. But the last two years he
gave them fines. I became a lady and I wait.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I could see that happening now because these are young professionals,
and it's like, no, we're paying y'all. Now, now we're
paying y'all. So this is this is your job. And
you know in the NFL you get weight checked, man,
five hundred dollars for over pound, five hundred dollars for
under pound, and that's every week. And then you got
to have a certain body percentage every week, you know
(40:46):
what I mean. And so It's like you have to
have a surreal sense of discipline to understand that. All Right,
I can't eat candy and cookies and ice cream every
day because because I weigh in on Thursday and if
I'm overweight, I'm getting fine. Now, yeah you can. But
if you like money, like everybody else doing this world,
(41:09):
you don't want to just throw your money away, you.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Know what I mean, Bruto, So you just with the
Texas and get paid the season. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So, so it's a process. I would say the discipline
is the most important thing, and I think that that
was one of the things as I retired, Like my
discipline for food eating has slowed down a little bit,
you know, So now I enjoying myself. I'm enjoying myself,
you know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Cheese we do the extra cheese that y'all can get
extra cheese today.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know. Yeah, I only put that on there. Y'all
got the ice cream to go with it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, you can do that a little bit. Now, we
could do that a little bit. Carried it the build
in June twenty eighth to run the walk the five k.
Check it out that one hundred meter dash for the youth. Yeah,
he's there. It's gonna be great. How you be the
dad you want to go? Yeah, come on out. Hundred
is a long time. What last time were on a hundred?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
You know I was actually on the track because I've
been you know, I've been doing my so you've been prepared.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah for five you want me to come out and
do that five. I can't just get out of give
me out there passing I because.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Man, you know, you gave the best thing. If you
stay ready, you never got to.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Get ready, that is right, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So I was on the track the other day, man
running for eight hundreds. Man, so you gotta you gotta
you know, it's just built in my nature at this point.
You know, working out is a customary to what I've
been doing for the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
And so it's like, okay, five K. I want to
make sure that I'm competing too. You know, I can't
be having you know.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Coach told you see see this just this is just
the five K. Imagine you here in Ohio and that
hired you you got to play against, say the Nations,
excise me, say that words, right, you got to compete
against them. Guys, You're right, right, yeah, yeah, hold is
your youngest.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
My youngest is eight months, so I just had a.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
He just he's uh, he's my little little Michael Man.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
He is.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
He's my hefty one, which is good because I think
he's going to translate into he might be my football player.
We'll see, Yeah, are you.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Are you going to pressure them into that? Not pressure?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But you know I told myself and you know, me
and my wife frequently talk about at this point. Now,
I think the ability for my kids, and my oldest
is seven, is.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Just go out there and have fun.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Squad to have fun, play me some friends. You know. Yeah,
we may win, we may lose, but did you have fun?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
And then at a point where they like that I
want to play football, Okay, you want to play, You
show you want to play, You show you want to play,
so you know, at then Uncle's right, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
So at that.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Point it's like, okay, well, then we'll slowly start to
build in the progression in the phase of what it takes.
Because if we're gonna play, we're gonna play at the
highest level, you know what I mean. We're gonna work
to get there because we've been there. But now it's
just men play. And so I put our kids in everything.
They in soccer, swimming, t ball, I mean everything that
(44:26):
we can put them in just to go out there
and have fun, be active. But you know, it's what
I've seen now is being in that realm, right, because
I wasn't in that realm.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Like I see these kids training at seven and eight
years old, going to personal trainers, and I'm like, where
where did all this come from?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's a big business. It's part of it is social media.
It's a big business, and they want their kids the
best option all But I also tell parents now, said
play all the sports. Actually gonna get those full years.
You put them in soccer, they're gonna get it. Put
in basketball, they're gonna get this coordination you're playing baseball, Yeah, coordination,
(45:07):
Like they're gonna get it. And legitimately, you don't really
need to be start trading. Maybe your sophomore year in
high school, Jered, that's where you can start. If you
know't gonna be a good football player, Like, if you
know you have the ability that type of talent to
play college level where there's one, two or three, because
don't get wrong, through Division three could play too. That
(45:30):
then you start thinking, Okay, how can I enhance my skills? That? Man,
I'm seeing it man when I start training.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, when I used to train at my training facilities,
I would see eight year olds in the cold tub
and hot time. I'm like, man, your body don't even
know what this is yet, like you kind of like
a cheetah. You should be able to get up and
go right now. No stretching, no nothing, you know what
I mean. Your body doesn't know that. But when you
start putting your kids in those phases, then they became
(46:00):
dependent and so they lose They lose all of that,
you know, the fibers that are able to do that,
and now they're depending on these things. And and so
what I'm seeing now is kids having major major injuries
very young. Back in the day, you didn't have no
a cl tears or nothing like that. And in middle school,
(46:20):
Like it goes back to what you're saying, is you're
overusing the muscles.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, wear or on the body the early instead of
go out there play, just play.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
You don't even need to be lifting weights if you
If anything, how your kids doing push ups? My dad
we got in trouble. He used to make us do squats,
So body squats and going in and you be squatting
for a whole hour and your legs would be nice
and strong after that.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, you know, push it up like that.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Right, squat man, some abs and that's it. Man. Do
some crunches to get the beach body ready and go.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
To have fun, enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
So I'm what time you got?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I got another meeting here in ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
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help join the community, spread awareness. Man, you can run virtually,
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you can walk. Bring your kids out for the kids.
Dads will have some fun activities and festivities for the
kids as well. That is it. I will be there.
I'm coming and so hope I can get through this.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Now, we ain't gonna hope. We're gonna get through it.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, we're gonna get through. We got you gotta speaking
into existence. I'm gonna speak it now. What happened. It's
a different story. I'll speak everything into existence. Uh not
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you guys check that out. He's a dope person, dope
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let us know. God chast is up.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
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nine years dB. I don't say safety a corner anymore
because it's the game changes to say dB. Everybody's dB. Amazing,
amazing story guys. If you guys didn't hear about it,
I had a hard condition. I think it was a
slight tear of your heart, right, Yeah, I don't write
a brand coronary artery.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So a situation where you're artery born with a birth defect,
you're born with the artery in the wrong position in
your heart, and they gotta go in there and kind
of stitch you back up and get you back.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, and they said, nope, you're not going to better play.
You shouldn't do it. One hit and it's over. I
remember reading the story already, one hit and it's over.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Over, So yeah, it's it's It was a great opportunity
to really share some light and awareness on how important
it is to get tested man, in terms of just
understanding that sometimes you think all is well, in terms
of being a young athlete, young scholar. You out there
playing running, Hey, I'm good, and something happens where it's like, okay,
(01:34):
what's going on? And if it wasn't for a normal
test routine. Ekg echo test man, I don't know if
we'd be sitting here talking.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Today as you speak about that. I went to India
a month ago, marsh past that. I went to India.
When I got there, my heart was again, I'm having
crazy feeling about my heart beats. I started coughing and
this is going for a while. So to literally two
(02:01):
weeks ago, I was like, you know what, I got
to go get this checked and TJ, I actually have
a monitor on now wow or anything. I feel president.
I got another go see the heart specialists soon because
I just don't know, like it just says nah, nah,
I gotta get this thing checked out. So as you
talk about it, fellas you need to go and check
(02:24):
on your body, check on you. And how did you know,
like how did you know that I needed to go?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so I when I was in high school. So
my procedure happened when I was fifteen years old, and uh,
I used to pass out and blackout all the time
on track practice, football practice. You just out there running
and just fall down and you wake up like what happened?
And so you know, the shortness of breath, the chest plains,
all of the kind of the symptoms of sometimes in
(02:52):
sports seems as though you're out of shape, like, hey,
you just need some more conditioning, right, But now it's
time to be in a phase where you're looking internally
more in the defined process. And so now the routine
e kgs, the echo test that you know, some of
the doctors, the hospitals, right, those are important, so you know,
(03:12):
and then as we grow up and as become older men, right,
there's a lot of Cleveland Clinic does a phenomenal Men's
Day event, right, So there's a lot of different events
that you can go and partake in these free screenings.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
You just got to be active. Man, got to be active, absolutely, man,
black man especially. I know the thing with the doctor
that said, I'm gonna tell you what did you eat?
The healthy as you want? You all the great foods
whatever God postoleed it to your body. I'm telling you God,
(03:44):
check it out. So you went through the procedure, they
said this, you couldn't do this. What made you say,
you know what, I'm going to defy these odds and
make this happen. Because I know it was a point
where you send down and your mom probably said some
of your pops, your people with your friends, your high
school coach.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, No. The biggest thing is I come from
a football family. Right, So five siblings, four older three
older brothers. They all play ball, you know, and we
all played ball. We all played football specialty. And it
was kind of like the following the footsteps of the
older brothers, the mentors, right, the people that you look
(04:23):
up to, And that phase was just okay, well, what's
this process? What are the steps? Okay, what's the obstacles?
You know, you pray to the men above and through
the grace of God, we took the opportunity to have
the surgery Valentine's Day, actually, we had open heart surgery,
and from there, of course the obstacles and anything in life, right,
(04:46):
success doesn't come easy. It comes with a price, and
there's sacrifices that need to be made. And at that
point in time, it was how do we get back
to a phase where we can compete and play at
a high level going into high school. And so that
phase took a lot of day definitely grewsome days. It
took a lot of perseverance and support, which is what
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it's always in. It's going to be a key factor
in kind of keeping you going.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And plus you went to one of the football factories.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, high University man coach Solis Frank the Tank I
call him. I actually just retired a few years ago.
He did retire, Yeah, and it was phenomenal to see
man going to traveling first of all, traveling across the world.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm from Cali. I'm a caliboy today. I sell high
school a big time school. Did you guys lose in
the game there? I know y'all had streaks four or
five years undefeated.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean you know what thirteen years man, we went
thirteen years undefeated. My oldest brother actually Rinard, who was
my trainer at the time. Uh, he was on those
teams that were able to go thirteen years. When I
played there, I still went undefeated right my season one
state championship.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So it was still a good feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But yeah, I mean that opportunity to go to the
school with that much prestige and to allow them to
consistently they're building young men from a responsibility standpoint, discipline standpoint,
and those traits is what I used to carry on
to going to Ohio University.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
County. Right, I'm pretty sure you have more offers than
how University, but you did have again, yeah, part of
them the heart issue. So I know universities with skeptical Yeah,
and that was a phase, man, that was a process.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
A lot of the schools around California, of course they
seen that going through that procedure did it did put
some obstacles in a way to say that, hey, we're
not necessarily sure on what he has or what is
going on. And so of course instead of the full ride,
they offer you the partial. You can come in there,
you can work your way up to the to the
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love the food chain and you know you can get that.
And you know at the time, fortunately having older brothers
who've been to uh build our name up in the
in the community. One of my older brothers played at
a school in New Mexico State, and uh his coach
was the coach at Ohio University, and it was like, hey, man,
I got another young brother coming out, you should take
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a look.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And it was.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
From that relationship that we were able to go up there,
take a visit and say, all right, this is home,
this is the next phase.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And that was phenomenal. Man, the biggest party school of
the nation weekend. Yeah, he found out real fast.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I did, man, And it's you know, of course it
was a big culture change.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But one thing I love about Ohio and still to
this day is the culture of people. Man. You know
what I mean, it's a it's a phenomenal opportunity to
raise a family. From what I see. I have, you know,
kids myself, and uh, you know, if you can get
past the winners, get you got to get past them.
And I'm still a Cali boy at heart. So you know,
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I'm never getting used to this winter a out here.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I got soft because I was away for a long time,
came back. You're like, man, I need on the trip.
I'm to the point where I almost want to be
a snowbird. Okay, Like listen, Northeast Ohio, Cleveland, I'm begging
up with anybody in the summertime. Summertime, I will I
will go total. I will go to toe any city
like trust me. It's just those when when October rode
(08:31):
around and he's like, you start thinking again, Yeah, I
love my city. So you went to Owe, you played football,
defight all the odds. Yeah. Man. Then we talked NFL.
I know you drafted seventh round. I think Oakland Raiders,
(08:52):
Raiders hometown, but yeah, hometoime. I know when how what
we did through the draft process because you had a
good you had a really good career yeah in college.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, the draft process it was, man, it was one
of those feelings where you have this vision and you
walk into the vision and it now becomes a reality,
you know, And it's an amazing feeling for everyone that has,
you know, written down their goals written down, the process
(09:26):
of what it's going to take to achieve those goals understood,
the sacrifice that goes along with those goals, the perseverance,
the hard work, the determination right to say that you
embody yourself to do that, to say all right, this
is going to take five, ten, fifteen years, and you
get to that fifteenth year and it's like, wow, we're here,
(09:47):
You're here, We're here.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know, it's just one of your name called.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man, just hearing it called man, and then not only
actually hearing it call, but going back to my hometown
and playing in front of family only friends. You know
that I that I grew up with, that I played with.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
It was just so real feeling. And I think that's
one of the blessings of above continuing warding you for
you know, staying true to who you are and and
believing in the process, having that faith unwavering.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's it's just amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
For you to go and still be drafted by hometown
and then NFL career at a seventh round pick. People
gotta understand this. Yeah, now it's changed within the nine years.
Now later picks are are are being valued a lot
more because and this is a whole other conversation off camera,
(10:43):
we can tell you why. It's a lot to do
with training, people being overvaluated and things like that. But
that's another another session, another talk. But for you to
be the seventh round pick the about time you got
I think, what was that your not guaranteed money, so they.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Get maybe a year deal. Yeah, they give you, man,
I mean seventh round. I mean you you're in some
ways appreciationing and you are in the same right and
it's like you know, seventh round picks, they're not You
may get picked, but it's that doesn't mean you'll make
the team. They gave you thirty five thou camps. Yeah,
you know, yeah, quick, you know, you get something. And
(11:22):
I think it's it's a it's another situation where I
think some in some instances, we believe that we don't
have to continue to prove ourselves in certain facets or industries.
And I think being in the seventh round, and even
when you get to more years of being in the
league or further lead further into a veteran status, right
(11:42):
that you you just got to pull yourself even more,
right because they keep coming in.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, it's like coming try to replace you right now,
right now, you know. And so you know that's where
I just man, nah, no, you know, because at the
end of the day, and then we'll Sildbart. At the
end of the day, it's about making the most money
(12:07):
by paying the least, yeah, right, and find somebody just
like you to do it cheaper, to do it cheaper. Yeah,
I figure out a way. That's you just the bond
the fire star. Yeah. And you know, and then sometime
they get ready to get rid of the get one
of them too. You know, you become too pricey, terry
kill listen, get you out of here, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So you know, for anyone that's in the business in
any form of facet man, they always coming.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It ain't gonna never stop. That's what I say about
the DJ business. I'm like, listen, young dude's gonna be nice.
They're gonna come. I just gotta keep my lane and
keep what I needed to be doing. So you seven
the third year Oakland, fourth year Oakland. What was that
first big contract?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Oh man came to the Browns man want yeah, dog
ploun and uh, passionate organization, passionate fans man, you gotta
love it play here two years and it was phenomenal
from here being able to transition our family to actually
be here and raise a family here.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So yeah, because you was Indiana, you went to Carolina,
you could have you could legitimately stayed in care Carolina, Charlotte.
I know what Charlotte looking like right now, and that
was last year, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you was right there in Charlotte. You couldn't say
found Yeah, this this may be it right here, right
We're gonna stay right here.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But you know, Charlotte, got Atlanta and you got to Florida.
Right there, everything down south, you're close right there. And
Charlotte was amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Man. I tell people, now, I met a couple of
people from Charlotte, Like, it is beautiful out there.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Man, if you guys got a chance to go out there,
he goes, go to Charlotte. The stadium's right down town. Like, legitimately, yeah,
right there. You've never seen it before. You have to
see it. Understanding people that I got to see that,
Understand what I said.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Legitimately right down town, man, everything is around there, the
practicabilities down there. So it's a phenomenal practice, everything, everything,
everything's right there the first time I had seen it
like that in that facet. But you know, Cleveland is
phenomenal and it's great. It's it's allowed us to have
staple grounds and a lot of the things that we do,
especially when we started our foundation. You know, all of
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that started to all that started in Cali, right, and
so the transition out here and to do some of
the programming that we do out here is it's been phenomenal, man.
And it's a lot of support. One of the things
that I love about Cleveland is. You know, everyone is
in their niches, but they're all trying to help. You know,
they're all trying to help in some way to uplift,
build and uh, you know, provide an avenue for you
(14:39):
to be successful. And that's you know, it's not like
that everywhere. And I don't think, you know, I think
the people of Cleveland may be a little spoiled in
thinking that, you know, maybe it's not enough. But man,
I tell you, in California, man, it's it's sharks south here.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, that's why I tell a lot of people about
well Cleveland. Listen, you go to another set, trust me,
it's like that ten times over. You get the glitter
of the glam because you think it's the bigger cities.
And trust me, when we talk about the basic bottom
line of things, it is a shark out there. Cleveland
can do a lot of good things here. A lot
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of you guys stay. You know, every time I talk
to an athlete or someone comes through who having to
stay here, they're like, oh, y'all, lovely, I still have
a house here. I mean, coach Mike Brown up until recently,
for you know, it was the secondment you had had
a house in Cleveland. You know, it's just people just stay.
I still got my house. Quietly, I heard what is
(15:38):
the actor name from a pirate of the Caribbeans, Depp,
they say, quietly, giant depth, being and out of Ohio.
You know, they say, I don't don't call me about her.
He's in and out of Ohio. It's no different than
people buy buy a landout in Montwna. Yeah too there.
(15:59):
I went to them to states. They're great. Yeah, I
can understand why I haven't been. I got to check
it out. Man. My wife we took a the motor
water home thing, Okay, four states south to cordon off
the courting my time in Wyoming. Drove up there, drove
up there with it with the r V, and I
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understand why that you would buy laying out there. And
that's all. If if I had an enormous amount of
money like I got, I would do that. Wow, I
literally legitimately do that. And so let's talk about your foundation.
You started this foundation ten years ago, right when you
got into the league. Obviously you got to leave. What's
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the amazing thing it wasn't Yeah, I started three years
after I retired, right, it was, this is what I got.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, And it was all through the process of just
having a belief man, that this is possible. And I
think sometimes we need to see it first in order
for others to believe it right and no different than
a lot of things that seem impossible at first and
then someone does it and it's like, oh, it's possible.
(17:15):
Oh well, we all can do it now. And so
with that mentality started the foundation to support families with
congenital heart disease, you know, helping them socially and emotionally
through different programmings that we've been able to accomplish and
create with the sole purposes to give them encouragement and
the opportunity to still have the belief that you can
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do it right, that your dreams are not over. And
it started with our Shadow Ready program where we were
going into hospitals Oakland children, Stanford's Children's and just talking
to parents, talking to young heart warriors and hearing about
their story, you know, understanding that hey man, I understand
that process. And you may have loved sports in sports
(18:00):
are still avenue that you could pursue, but maybe you train,
maybe you coach right, maybe you provide nutrition right. So
there's so many ways to still be a part of
something that you ultimately love. And so it's just been
a phenomenal opportunity and allowed us to really expand and
do a lot more, and we.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Talk about doing a lot more just going on to
the third year of this. Is it a run walk?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, five K hardware or run walk man, And it's
a phenomenal opportunity. The first year we did it downtown,
second year and this year we're actually doing it at
the Soviscally Towpath right there in Treatmont and different course,
but an opportunity again. You know, it's a five k,
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so you can either walk a mile we got the
hundred yard kids dash, and then you can run you know,
the three point one miles.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
An opportunity for us to still get our heart warriors
out there who kind of battled the mentality that I
can't do as much. Right, Get you out there and
see that, man, there's other heart warriors just like you
out there running right. You know, some of our heart
warriors last year they ran almost the whole five k,
if not the whole five k, right, And so it's
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an opportunity for you to see that, hey, there's someone
that's just like me that's able to do this, and
it give you the encouragement to say, Okay, I can
do it. Maybe let me look at this a little
different and just from a standpoint for even mom and
dad to look at it and say, wow, you went
through that and you're doing your son or daughters doing this. Okay,
what did you do? How did you do it right?
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And I think that's the biggest thing that we continuously
try to build.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And that sense of community. Yes, you know, that sense
of community. I think that's the biggest thing about it.
That they have a village that helped them out and
everything else. I think that's the number more thing. TJ.
Caerrey is in the build nine year NFL, but I
you got to say that, you got to spit that
out there because they're nine years in the league. Man.
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It's people can't do ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah man, Yeah, the industry average is what three? So
to say you know that we beat a lot of
odds is, like I said, true testament.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
To the man. You though, just wanted to go get it. Yeah, yeah,
you know, just wanting to make it happen. And then
we talk about when we see the kid they got
Buffalo bills. Uh the more Hemlin, Yeah, yeah, that that part.
Did you reach out to him, did you have a
conversation with him?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah? We we actually worked with him and his team
to pass House Bill forty seven, which is the bill
now to continuously have an emergency action plan for all
the you know and institutions that have facilities teaching a
CPR right and having a d.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Available talk about ad Shout out to Nicole Ward. Nicole, Yeah,
she uh Avid Avid for that she We have one
in our building now about a d S and I
think we should want to know more about them. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And it's it's interesting because when we worked on passing
that bill and you know, to make them know your
name foundation, they were a part of that process as well.
It was the being conscious of where ADS at, right,
And I don't know if many of you all don't
know their story, you know, go to their website, but
the aed of knowing simply how it works was crucial, right.
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And so as you walk around now when I'm walk
in the building, I'm like, Okay, where's the AD at?
So just another important phase of how us as a
community in terms of different organizations are out there continuously
to advocate for the awareness of what's going on and
us just being able to take note that being healthy
(21:41):
is a part of the process, right, and it's also
steps to it. So the continuous belief of us continuously explaining,
all right, this is what you should do, this is
how you should eat, right, and the whole five k.
Never ran a five k in my life before we
did our first five k, right, and so did our
first five k, and I was like, okay, I need
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to start running a little bit more, right, right. You know,
playing in the National Football League, you don't run long distance.
Different different running, different running, you know. So yeah, man,
excited for this opportunity. June twenty eighth, if you all
are around, go to the TJ. Kerrey Foundation dot org website. Yes,
tune in and log on. If you want to be
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a part of the run walk, come out there and
see if you can beat my time. Now, listen my
first time twenty five. I think I did twenty five
twenty five minutes for the first five k. Last last
year it was twenty seven, but I only contribute the
two extra minutes because the whole mile and a half
was uphill on the way back. Okay, so now I'm
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
They gave you the uphill on the way.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Back and uphill you know, so you gotta have some
you gotta have some fight in you to go all
a mile and a half downhill and then about one
point six back uphill on the leg back.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
So now this is a tough one. He did not
give you an easy route for a fundraiser acknowledgement run.
I don't know why people would do that. You know.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What we realized though, to be all in all fairness,
the first year we did it, it was a flat
course and our runners didn't really like the flat course.
It was too easy. So what we realized in the
running community is they want challenge.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They want something challenge, let's get it. Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You know we switched it up and we had a
man overall success of people loving a course, like, man,
this is phenomenal. And you know, the first course we
ran past the stadium rock and roll.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know, you try to give a sight scene. I
don't want that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Give me some challenge. So it was it was a
good little transition. Man, I like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
What you're doing. And you know, for the community, and
this is for people to have the village to get
Like I'm saying, yeah that you're doing it with your
true heart. Uh no, Intendant, Yeah, but I love it man,
And again, w over you. I think this is our
third year if you.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Guys, Yeah, man, you've all been phenomenal. Man. Last year,
y'all came out with the popcorn, the prizes, the gifts,
had the tent, the music. It was.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Man. It was so much of an impact, right and
true testament to how important it is to have DJ Radio.
Right to be a part of that process because you
all too, the environment and the energy that's in that
community is all can be amplified through the process of
what y'all doing.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Correct, you know, Yeah, we're part of it. Like I said,
we were running your spot like crazy. Yeah, you know,
making sure people involved. It just need to go down again.
He stayed in Cleveland. That's the big thing. He could
have got up and went back to Cali. The option
is there for all fransis family. Yeah, but he kind
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of thought, h my friends is doing the exact same
thing they was doing ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Something. Man. Now now question now, who who in the
w O v U community is running uh in two weeks.
So that's what I want to know. Who who running
or who walking? And who who who getting out there
and being active.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I can do it. I didn't hear a lot of
confidence in that. Chiropractor comes on with on Tuesday or
Wednesday was Thursday? The way my sad set up. I
don't know if I can make it. You can walk.
I do walk with my wife and I did walk
up and walked them out, walked them out come, I
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walked them out. I'm telling you, if I'm not booked
on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Early morning, this is at eight a m. Now you
we'll be going.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I gotta be there part of the station. I gotta
be there anywhere. Yeah, I gotta be It's not like
I'm trying to be there anyway. I might do that.
I might do the five k. May not be a rundown.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Hey, however, you do it as long as you finished it.
Maybe a walk run, try drug.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's a it's a walk run. Yeah, the run when
you tired football practice, you try, yount know what it?
Mostly the lineman do it. It's like a walk run.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeahs, but their legs ain't going.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, they tried, man, they tried I just tell the athletes,
we're not trotting down here, got run It's basic skill. Guys.
Uh football? What you got? What you got going on?
What did you see? What was going on?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
You know? I mean, I be honest man trained dB, Yeah,
you know, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I told myself, you know, the investment in time that
is made and just playing is it's an investment. Man,
It's a major sacrifice. And I think that you know,
I'm a family. I got I got four little ones,
right and so well, coaching is in when it's with them.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
How about that? That makes sense?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah? But in terms of like college nfield, I think
the highest idol coaches is high school.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Man. I think even I just got to high school,
even then, is it still it's still time because because
you're a competitor. Yeah, you've been in league nine years.
I've not been in the league, but I played some
college I did somebody. I know how competitive I am
with the minds. I want my players to be this
like I want because the product you put out there
(27:34):
is a representative of me. Yes, coach, So I want
you to know everything and I want you to win.
Will you be prepared to prepare. What that means, I'm
up all hours and like trying to make sure I
got you watching this. I get deep. My wife tells you,
like I used to be up watching the huddle. Ah
(27:56):
they do this, or they do this or this, look
like this. Really, yeah, I was deep because I'm telling you,
if you go out there and they're not prepared, it's
on me. It's not on them. I don't expect them
to know they're young, high school. I don't expect it.
Plus I didn't get the top big athletes, right, so
that means these guys football I accuse this. So that's
(28:19):
you're a capulatitive. So you're going to sit out there
and be like, nah, I can't have this. M you
went to daylight cell. Yeah you know how it's supposed
to your pride. Yeah, you're right. Your knowledge is not
going to allow you to not do it. So training
(28:41):
I can see you're doing. Yeah it's easy.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Training.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, train man, you know you need training. You need training.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
But see, the the process with training is is still
when what I learned about training, which is phenomenal. Right,
I'm glad I had my trainers throughout the league, and
it's phenomenal even all of my mentors, right I I
couldn't have done it with none of them. But when
you go train, you go train with the guy that
you want to train with. So that means everybody want
(29:09):
to train with juice you. They don't want to train
with the assistant, They don't want to train with the
person you're training. No, I came here for you, for you,
So that again, it's kind of like, all right, well
you gotta be there, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And so I think that when I when I look.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
At just the process, it's in any way it's like
we say it's a sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Sacrifice it is. I trained, I trained quarterbacks. And I
don't take out a lot of clients. I take literally
one to three clients have four years for high school,
those the same ones. Yep, I can't take twenty. And
I think I'm robbing them up that personal interaction of
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putting my all into all in twenty kids. Now I'm
just having a factory of something that don't work, where
two or three kids, I think four years, I can
do this, I can do that, I can move around,
have time to do it. Yeah, there's people out there,
so I get it. I'm like, I want to tell
a done coaching. I got my yea, my last two
(30:16):
guys treading for quarterbacks. Okay, I'm just like all right,
and I'm just gonna watch and just cover the game.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But we do camps though, you know, part of our foundation. Yeah,
we do camps. Man. We've been doing our be a
Pro Football camp. We're still doing it this year California
at DLA South July twelfth. And every year we lined
up for that. Your line up for the coaches for
that one. So I've been yeah, we I mean, I
partnered with the War War Foundation TJ. Ward Toront Ward,
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you know both we all grew up in the community.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
War used to play here, right, so you know a
lot of the players that we play with, you know,
in that community. We come together and say, hey, man,
let's let's do a couple of camps a year, or
one or two camps where it's like we can put
some hands on experience with some of these kids in
the community. Right, And that camp is anywhere from you know,
eight to seventeen years old. And we basic fundamentals, because
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everyone thinks more than basic fundamental. Yeah, it ain't it
ain't right. We're gonna start with this and so you
start them young man, you can get them. So, you know,
we do camps like we we kind of pour into
the kids in that in that process, like it's a
four hour camp eight to twelve and we're going over
(31:33):
everything footwork, tackling, catching, drill work from a dB standpoint,
safety work, running back standpoint. So it's it's an opportunity
for us to kind of continue to give back for
the for the young ones.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's fun to get. I was at the hostate camp
Raz last week. One of the players is in our
training group. I feel so embarrassed when they had a
heartline was there Okay, okay at the heart life because
he's doing it. He's a phenomenal coach, I'm gona tell
you because every when you at that level of a coach,
(32:05):
you don't have to be coaching these kids at the camp,
you have other coach from other colleges be there or
whoever your players. He was there the whole time and
it was a I think it was a regular. Was
it a dick? I think I think it was a
It was a It was a basic route and player
did all this extra stuff before he got into this.
(32:28):
In the middle of this route. Hardl was like, what
the hell was that? Now? Mind you, this is a kid.
I know they already got six offers, right, yeah, just
got one for pitt And what Harlan said, look like
what was what was like? What was like? What was that?
I didn't want that?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
This is Brian Harlot who put out all these number
one picks, and you did all this in front of him.
Tells me everything about what are you doing? What are
you watching online? Do you if you watch that now?
Like you watch these these these new age trainers as
(33:07):
far as dB trains and now everybody's top dB trainer.
You know what. The guy who was a dB trainer
never that say you don't have to go to college
to do that, but if you're gonna do it, gonna
be up under somebody who doesn't, or you do a study.
But these guys come out and say I'm the top guy,
I'm the top trainer.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, I mean, you know, to be honest, man, the
top trainers something you won't even know who they are
unless you're in that space because they not the top
trainer don't need to be on social platforms, or he
don't need to be on none of those things.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Those are guys where it's like if you know, you know,
And I think what's happening in the industry now is
you know, social media's became what it is and it's
an amazing tool, but it's now it's like who's the
flashiest that I can be around? So I can I
want to work with that guy because I see him
doing this and it's like, I don't know, man, I mean,
(34:08):
it's just it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
A challenge, man.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
But you know, I think that like some of the
top guys, you know, they don't move the same way
that you would think. They move very silent, and there's
a lot of guys who work with the top guys
that you wouldn't know who work with the top guys, right,
And so I just think that go back to the
basic fundamentals man, tacklings is you tackle one way. You
(34:30):
tackle your feet work should be this way. Work on
things that apply to the game. Like if you go
watch your game right now, in any fast any sport,
if you go watch whatever you're watching and you're like, okay,
I do that move in the game, Go work on that, right,
don't work on you know something that you get to
the game, it's like the timing is off, Like that
(34:52):
don't work.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You ain't going to use it? You do it extra sting. Yeah,
oh my goodness, I watched all the time. What what
do And we're gonna get a little bit about into
football right now since we've got a little bit of time.
It's got a little bit of time. What do NFL
coaches look for? What does that all look like? NFL coaching?
Like when you got there, you just you just left. Yeah,
what are they looking for? Because you've got all these
(35:15):
guys to come out? What separates from you being on
there for nine years and you've been on there for dominicaunt?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you know a lot of the
coaches they it's character. I mean the physical ability. When
you get to that level is everybody's pretty much good, right,
Like you come from being the best in your college
or whatnot to you. You get to the element where
it's like we all good, we all fast, we all quick, right,
(35:45):
and so then it becomes the little details like the character,
the discipline. Are you gonna if you see a weakness
within your craft, are you gonna stay extra or are
you gonna come in earlier?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
To work on that right, like.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
You know, the response ability of Hey, coach said we
got to meet in at five am, don't come at
five ten like coach, I was sleep man, you know.
And so it's the whole mentality of be a pro.
And when I came in when I was younger, I
didn't really understand what that concept meant, but it was
be a pro means.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know, eat right. This is now your profession. This
is what you do right.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Take care of your body, get your massages, you know,
do your chiropractor right, do your stretching, study your film.
Don't go home and just not study. You're just like
any other tests that you're taking. You gotta study for right,
be accountable. Tell you this is what we're doing. But
believe in the project. This is how we plan this coverage.
Don't deviate from the plan. Now, if you can work
(36:45):
with whatever way you want to work, that still allows
you to make plays in any sport right within the
concept that we teach it, do it, you know. And
so of course there's always different levels to the craft
and the ability, but you know, I think those are
attributes that.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Coaches look at outside of athletics.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Man, I think you know, I think I don't want
anyone to feel that. Man. The talent is not gonna
get you there. Yeah, the talent is gonna get you there.
But what's gonna keep you there? Those other attributes that
you have, And sometimes we missed that understanding and that
concept of well do I need all these other things?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah? Man, because it's a necessity.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Man. And the coach is putting their name on the
line just the same way we just talked about when
they putting their name on the line to put this
player out there. They're trusting this player to represent them
because when the head coach come and talk to him,
it's like, hey, what is he doing? The coach got
to be able to say, well, you know you wanted us,
or you know, why is he in there?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Exactly? And so it's an effect.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
But they to our younger teams right now, man, first
get the books, you know, study, get to college, right
and I think nowadays these professionals, we got young CEOs
at seventeen years old. Man, your business business men women
sixteen fifteen. You gotta you know, you need an accountant
(38:13):
at seventeen years old, now, see, you know, so it's
interesting concepts. Yeah, Streamers so.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I'm looking at this. I love the love. I'm looking
at that that new fourteen draft, right, and I'm just
looking at you. You didn't do too bad for yourself. Yeah,
I ain't too bad because we look at you. No,
I ain't do too Oh yeah, uh Justin Gilbert, Kyle Fuller,
(38:41):
Calvin Pryor, Hah, Clinton Dix. I like I thought he
was going to be better than what he was. Yeah,
I remember, Uh dark Wez Gnar, Jason Verrett. I'm just
throwing some names out there that was drafted ahead of you.
Jimmy Ward, Bradley Roby wasn't too bad. I like Rope. Yeah,
(39:02):
Bradley war Roby wasn't too that. Uh Trade Boston out here,
Ricardo Allen. You know, actually my my cousin was in
that draft for Georgia Southern. Okay, Laville westbrooks Oh, I
think I was Ville Times in Cincinnati. Got drafted by Cincinnati. Okay,
(39:24):
I remember got drafted. Uh you got draft twenty nineteen,
he got twenty. He got it, excuse me nineteen. George
draft spot here was two fifty four. I Rememberville. Yeah,
he's down in Florida. He's a teacher. I think down there. Okay, principal,
but how did you feel when you look up? You
spend nine years and some of these guys in spend. Yeah, man, hey,
(39:48):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
But that's to say, like he goes back to what
you were saying about all the things that come before that.
Just the athletic ability. Man, it's just so much of it.
And uh, you know the discipline that it tells. I
tell all now, just the discipline that required, like you
get weight checked every week NFL college.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Now you have, and he implemented some things because now
that didn't rule on the nil at the university, give
it directly to you. But the last two years he
gave them fines. I became a lady and I wait.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I could see that happening now because these are young professionals,
and it's like, no, we're paying y'all. Now, now we're
paying y'all. So this is this is your job. And
you know in the NFL you get weight checked, man,
five hundred dollars for over pound, five hundred dollars for
under pound, and that's every week. And then you got
to have a certain body percentage every week, you know
(40:46):
what I mean. And so It's like you have to
have a surreal sense of discipline to understand that. All Right,
I can't eat candy and cookies and ice cream every
day because because I weigh in on Thursday and if
I'm overweight, I'm getting fine. Now, yeah you can. But
if you like money, like everybody else doing this world,
(41:09):
you don't want to just throw your money away, you.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Know what I mean, Bruto, So you just with the
Texas and get paid the season. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
So, so it's a process. I would say the discipline
is the most important thing, and I think that that
was one of the things as I retired, Like my
discipline for food eating has slowed down a little bit,
you know, So now I enjoying myself. I'm enjoying myself,
you know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Cheese we do the extra cheese that y'all can get
extra cheese today.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
You know. Yeah, I only put that on there. Y'all
got the ice cream to go with it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, you can do that a little bit. Now, we
could do that a little bit. Carried it the build
in June twenty eighth to run the walk the five k.
Check it out that one hundred meter dash for the youth. Yeah,
he's there. It's gonna be great. How you be the
dad you want to go? Yeah, come on out. Hundred
is a long time. What last time were on a hundred?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
You know I was actually on the track because I've
been you know, I've been doing my so you've been prepared.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah for five you want me to come out and
do that five. I can't just get out of give
me out there passing I because.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Man, you know, you gave the best thing. If you
stay ready, you never got to.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Get ready, that is right, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
So I was on the track the other day, man
running for eight hundreds. Man, so you gotta you gotta
you know, it's just built in my nature at this point.
You know, working out is a customary to what I've
been doing for the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
And so it's like, okay, five K. I want to
make sure that I'm competing too. You know, I can't
be having you know.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Coach told you see see this just this is just
the five K. Imagine you here in Ohio and that
hired you you got to play against, say the Nations,
excise me, say that words, right, you got to compete
against them. Guys, You're right, right, yeah, yeah, hold is
your youngest.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
My youngest is eight months, so I just had a.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
He just he's uh, he's my little little Michael Man.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
He is.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
He's my hefty one, which is good because I think
he's going to translate into he might be my football player.
We'll see, Yeah, are you.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Are you going to pressure them into that? Not pressure?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But you know I told myself and you know, me
and my wife frequently talk about at this point. Now,
I think the ability for my kids, and my oldest
is seven, is.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Just go out there and have fun.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Squad to have fun, play me some friends. You know. Yeah,
we may win, we may lose, but did you have fun?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
And then at a point where they like that I
want to play football, Okay, you want to play, You
show you want to play, You show you want to play,
so you know, at then Uncle's right, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
So at that.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Point it's like, okay, well, then we'll slowly start to
build in the progression in the phase of what it takes.
Because if we're gonna play, we're gonna play at the
highest level, you know what I mean. We're gonna work
to get there because we've been there. But now it's
just men play. And so I put our kids in everything.
They in soccer, swimming, t ball, I mean everything that
(44:26):
we can put them in just to go out there
and have fun, be active. But you know, it's what
I've seen now is being in that realm, right, because
I wasn't in that realm.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Like I see these kids training at seven and eight
years old, going to personal trainers, and I'm like, where
where did all this come from?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's a big business. It's part of it is social media.
It's a big business, and they want their kids the
best option all But I also tell parents now, said
play all the sports. Actually gonna get those full years.
You put them in soccer, they're gonna get it. Put
in basketball, they're gonna get this coordination you're playing baseball, Yeah, coordination,
(45:07):
Like they're gonna get it. And legitimately, you don't really
need to be start trading. Maybe your sophomore year in
high school, Jered, that's where you can start. If you
know't gonna be a good football player, Like, if you
know you have the ability that type of talent to
play college level where there's one, two or three, because
don't get wrong, through Division three could play too. That
(45:30):
then you start thinking, Okay, how can I enhance my skills? That? Man,
I'm seeing it man when I start training.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, when I used to train at my training facilities,
I would see eight year olds in the cold tub
and hot time. I'm like, man, your body don't even
know what this is yet, like you kind of like
a cheetah. You should be able to get up and
go right now. No stretching, no nothing, you know what
I mean. Your body doesn't know that. But when you
start putting your kids in those phases, then they became
(46:00):
dependent and so they lose They lose all of that,
you know, the fibers that are able to do that,
and now they're depending on these things. And and so
what I'm seeing now is kids having major major injuries
very young. Back in the day, you didn't have no
a cl tears or nothing like that. And in middle school,
(46:20):
Like it goes back to what you're saying, is you're
overusing the muscles.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, wear or on the body the early instead of
go out there play, just play.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
You don't even need to be lifting weights if you
If anything, how your kids doing push ups? My dad
we got in trouble. He used to make us do squats,
So body squats and going in and you be squatting
for a whole hour and your legs would be nice
and strong after that.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, you know, push it up like that.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Right, squat man, some abs and that's it. Man. Do
some crunches to get the beach body ready and go.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
To have fun, enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
So I'm what time you got?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
I got another meeting here in ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
All right, we're with TJ. Carrey again June and twenty.
I tell everybody where to get the all information from TJ.
Carreyfoundation dot org. Go right now check out the foundation information.
June twenty eighth, sign up for our annual Heart Warrior
five k run walk. Be a part of the calls,
help join the community, spread awareness. Man, you can run virtually,
(47:25):
you can walk. Bring your kids out for the kids.
Dads will have some fun activities and festivities for the
kids as well. That is it. I will be there.
I'm coming and so hope I can get through this.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Now, we ain't gonna hope. We're gonna get through it.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Okay, we're gonna get through. We got you gotta speaking
into existence. I'm gonna speak it now. What happened. It's
a different story. I'll speak everything into existence. Uh not
afout point, not f n well out of here. Miss
you guys check that out. He's a dope person, dope
uh player. I'll wish you the best. Come up anytime,
man it for sure. If you want to do a
radio for shure, I'm coming to radio to let us go,
(48:02):
let us know. God chast is up.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
W O v U.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Man, best in the beers, I tell you, man, we
are here peace
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