Captain Ron (1992) – Kurt Russell, Sailing Chaos & 90s Summer Comedy - Do You Even Movie? Exploring Obscure Gems and Cult Classics

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Harvey family is sailing with Captain Ron. Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
To Paradise? Is sure the way people could find it?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Well, let's hope so.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
There's excitement on deck, danger around every turn, and adventure
just beyond the horizon with the Pirates Kirk Russell Pirates
and the Caramel Martin short.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
In the Disney World One Too Many Times Captain Ron,
Captain Captain Ron premier in April twenty three, in a
world where podcasts reign supreme.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Two Friends Dare to Ask?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Do you even?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Movie?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David de Noyer.
Spoiler alert, You had never seen a Superman movie?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
No until recently? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
No, And I'm working my way through them all right now?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
How's that going?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm I'm all, I've seen the first one.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Oh, that's not working your way through. That's starting.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Two is up next, obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Then I've got three four Superman returns, and then Man
of Steel and then I actually that's not true. I
guess I did see.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Batman versus super Batman v. Superman. I have only seen
the Christopher Reeve Superman movies and then this most recent one, yeah,
I have not seen any of those other ones.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Batman v. Superman is.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I was excited until I found out it wasn't a
court drama.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I mean there is that. Yeah, it's it's not bad.
I mean it's definitely it's definitely got its hate, it's
definitely got its fans. It's it's been a lost of
scene it too. I literally got that becase of a
free code when my buddy Derek f Ye and again
gave me the digital code for it. Oh yeah, yeah,
because I was originally I think I was planning to
see in theaters because it's a Batman movie, and I

(02:10):
usually try to see every single Batman movie in theaters.
But yeah, that one I missed. I can't remember why. Sad,
but no, I will say the Superman movie, the first,
the first Superman movie. He'll be fucking good. Hot take,
hot take on that one.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I know what you're thinking too. You're like Jack Donner,
all flubs except this one. Dick Donner? What did I say, Jack?
What's his name?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Did Richard Donner?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Richard Donner? Ah Man? I watched a documentary about his
involvement in Superman. You know that he filmed most of
Part two.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, because there's the Dick daughter cut, the Richard daughter cut.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh they did put that out. Yeah, it's out.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's just not a complete movie apparently because I've got
it in my voodoo. Because that was the thing is
when I got that collection that I got recently, it
has all of the minute So that's how I started
watching them again.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Was that's how I got access to.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Him because it was one of those situations that I've
I've seen them on like I've seen bits and pieces
of them on cable, and I'd seen a lot of
the first one cable, but had never like sat down
and watched it from start to finish. I was never
a big Superman person. I was more so into Batman,
so I was aware of Superman. I liked Superman, but
like Batman was my chosen hero.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
MM. You were like between these two orphans that one
You made that joke last week, because it's still true.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
But no, I really did enjoy the first Superman movie,
and I'm excited to watch the second one because I've
heard the least one and two are the best of
them obviously, and i've seen bits and pieces of four.
Actually i've probably seen four might be the one I've
seen the seen the most of honestly.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because it got so silly. Yeah, I mean it's really
si it played.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
They played that one at AMC a lot. Yeah yeah,
they played the first one, the second one, and sometimes
the third, but usually like the fourth one is the
one I would catch a lot, and sci Fi would
play the fourth one a lot too.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I have not seen Superman three or four four since
I was a kid, but I've watched one and two.
One still pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh yeah, one's fantastic, No, I was. I was pleasantly
surprised with how much I enjoyed it, even though like
it's weird, Like I've realizing that I can be a
very big hypocrite on some things. Yeah good, like good example,
I recently just watched the Old Boy remake, the American
remake of Old Boy. Yeah, Josh Brolin, Samuel L. Jackson,
And it was one of those situations that I knew

(04:29):
it existed. I had never really been curious about it
because I've always loved the original Old Boy because that
movie is a freaking masterpiece. And my coworker had only
seen the remake and loved it, and like that was
anytime she would talk about like shocking movies with like
some of the new people she'd be training at work.
She would always bring up Old Boy, but she would
bring up the American version, and I was like, have

(04:49):
you even seen the original Korean version?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Pushing up?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Have you even seen the original Korean version? She's like no,
So she recently watched the Korean version, still prefers the
American version, which I'm not go hold that against her,
but as a deal of her seeing it, I decided
to watch the remake. And to be honest, the remikes
not that bad. It's it's it's absolutely fine. But the
knowing that the original exists, I can totally go back

(05:14):
to the original as many times as I want, much
like with Suspiria as well. Like I was kind of
against Suspiria when they were doing that remake.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, I've never been one to be against a
remake personally.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I've calmed down a lot since about it, but I mean,
you you've been my friend for a decade, you know
how I used to be with some of that shit.
But I also yes, but I mean I also but
I also like I did see like how Rob Zombies
Halloween Opening Night in theaters, but that was because I
was a teenager and also got to see my first
R rated Halloween movie in theaters for that matter.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So well, you're lucky mine was Resurrection. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I mean I would have loved to see Resurrection in theaters.
But I saw that one in theater and hear Mom
leaned over and said, this isn't very good.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, no it was.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
It was done.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
She was like, that wasn't very good. And I was like, no,
I said that was a very good She was like, no,
no it was not.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
But no, it's I've I've kind of tried to reassess
lately on being more open to just giving movies a chance.
And I mean I've always been somebody too that will
go through like Return of the Living Dead sequels, re
Animator sequels and whatnot, Like I'll watch the entire run
of a series. So I'm not really too picky in
that regard, but sometimes I can get a little bit nitpicky.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I have to I have to watch all of them.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh, I mean I get that.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I get excited for the later.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh, so you and I have watched the last three
Children of the Corn sequels as they come out, along
with hell Raiser sequels because we are those people.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, And I mean, you know spoilers, when you turn
Pinhead into a human at the end of judgment, I mean,
that's pretty fucking awesome as punishment, as punishment, turn him
into the one thing he really hates.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I mean, I'm more of a snake Eater three as
the best of all three snake Eaters.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I was going to send you something because I found
the original promo for Joe Bob's Drive in where he
talks about the Snake Eater Night coming out.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, because he did the world cable television premiere two. Yeah,
which is the worst one. Yeah, that's what you're saying.
It's like slapsticky. It's very weird, the best.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So I went down a rabbit hole because you've been
talking about Joe Bob's driving So I've been looking at
clips and stuff on YouTube, and I went down a
rabbit hole of this guy that has hundreds of hundreds
of Joe Bob's driving videos. And I watched a promo
he did with Linda Blair. Oh yeah, where she where.
He's like, we're gonna have Linda Blair mount. She's like
a month, Like I didn't sign up for this. He's like,
oh no, we already paid paid for the movies. We

(07:27):
talked to your people like you're gonna be with us
for a month, and she's like, oh, I don't have
that much time.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
He was repossessed as one of the films he did
on Linda Blair Month. Actually, last night I was rewatching
old Joe Bob Drive ins, picking titles I'd never heard of. Yeah,
and I it finally happened. I stumbled across a movie
I vividly remembered catching on cable as a kid that
I never found. What was it? The Harvest?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
It is a weird movie nineties.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
A nineteen ninety two or one, okay. It was a
American Spanish American Mexican co production, and it features George
Clooney in a very early role playing a seductive transvestite
dancing in a cage pre.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Return a living to a Return of the Killer Tomatoes.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's probably just after before General.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hospital and stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but it's it's starring it's from this,
says ninety three. The lead actor is Miguel Ferrer. Oh shit,
I love migil Fair. But it's like one of the
only movies. He was the lead in Ever.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah that makes sense, well Nightflyer.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, no, no, you're right y. And actually his character
reminds me a lot of his character in Night Flyer
in this because he's a novelist, not a novelist, a
screenwriter who is investigating a true crime story to write
a screenplay for a sleazy Hollywood producer played perfectly by
Harvey Firestein course, and he ends up getting into the underworld.

(08:54):
Now I'm going to a full disclosure. This was literally
last night. I didn't finish last thirty minutes yet watching
those two, but he in the first thirty minutes he
woke up without his kidney. He had his kidney stolen,
and now he keeps trying to find who did this
stuff to him. Another great cameo and is Tim Thomerson
plays the gringo who runs the like grotto where all

(09:17):
the tourists come in this little Mexican village. And he's
hilarious because he's just like walking around in a robe
with like his stomach that he's pushing it out to
look fatter, and he's just like yeah, and like the
kids come, like a bunch of little kids come and
start like picking up his suitcases and like set them down,
and they're like they're like now then now, then narrow,
and he like he's like, just get the hell out

(09:37):
of here, and they all run away and he goes
good kids, like he's he really chews up every scene
he's in. But it had two or three sequences that
I remembered vividly seeing when I was a kid. But
I know, I if I did finish the movie, I
don't remember from back then. And this is the first
time that's full blown happens since Dangerous Touch, But this

(10:00):
is the first time it's happened completely. Like I wasn't
trying to find anything. I was just watching random Joe
Bob's driving. It happens.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean, every once in a while when I show
you something, it'll happen. Not often to a point that
like it it's become a thing, but like there's been
a few like Breakdown. I remember showing you break Down
the first three minutes and you remembered it and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Often there there are somewhat known movies though, yeah that
I caught, Yeah you forgot sense this one, Like I
didn't even I wasn't even looking for it. You know.
I just there were a few like very specific sequences
involving like a dog and a cat fighting and and
and some other stuff that I was just like, do
I know this? And then there's this this incredibly sleazy

(10:37):
scene where he meets the woman who eventually helps steal
his organs, where he's talking to a guy at the
bar who's like super flamboyant and keeps hitting on him,
and he keeps like, you know, just yeah, yeah yeah,
and look at this girl. Yeah yeah, yeah, look at
this girl. And then when he walks up to the girl,
the gay guy walks up and takes an ice cube
and drops it down her pants. He's like, this will help,
and he's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

(10:57):
Go away? And then she like like uh, like moves
squiggles around with like the ice cube in her pants
and pulls it out and rubs it on her stomach
and stuff, and then put puts it in the Miguel
Farer's mouth, No, in his mouth, in the mouth. And
I remembered that sequence vividly because I remembered it being
pretty weird, I would say so for being like eight
or nine years old and not really understanding so much,

(11:20):
but no, so I'm like pumped to see where it
goes because it was also not a bad one. I've
also learned when you watch Joe Bob's drive in with
very few exceptions, if he says this is a great movie,
you're gonna have a really good time.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I mean you prove that with introducing me to Lower
Level this week.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh phenomenal. That was heart out. I know, no, like
it's so good.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's not listed, like the only the only reference to
P two I found is in reviews for Lower Level,
Like nobody has ever like referenced it in anything regarding
P two or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
And did you notice who wrote it? Uh huh Joel
Swiss on the writer of REYNELM Street too, That's right. Yeah,
it started the career for like several producers on that
one too. Oh yeah, I think the director of photography
on to do inception. It's so weird how dps are?
Huh yeah, absolutely so, but no I bet but no,
I was like mind blown that I found this one,

(12:11):
And yeah, Lower Level was like really a mind blowing
movie to discover. But yeah, so it's been interesting. Another
one that I watched was Easy Wheels. This one is
like not available anywhere. And it was produced by Sam
Rabie Raymie and written by Ivan and Sam Raimie. And
it is a biker movie farce. It is literally it

(12:33):
is literally like Airplane for biker movies. It's like super
goofy humor, really weird and out there, pretty boring. It
was during that brief period where Raymie was producing direct
to video movies. It was really brief. I think he
did like five or six because it ended around like
he did Lunatics a love Story, He did Dead next
Door Mental mil Down. No, that movie was a one

(12:58):
that I hunted forever to find.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Remember and you had told me about it, and then
we pulled up that clip.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, Well, I went on IMDb message boards and just said,
does anyone know? All I remember is the guy's on
a date and he keeps freaking out, and these hip
hop guys starts saying, you're having a mental I said
break down. Yeah, And so it was like this one,
Lunatic's a love story. And then I kept confusing it
for years with psychos in life, and then I finally
found Lunatics a love story.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Speaking of psychos in love, Galactic Jiggilow just hit streaming
the other what's his name? The guy that directed Gorman
Gorman something I can't remember his name was, but yeah,
his other movie with cemetery high. I just hit streaming.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I got the alert on my letterbox.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Very nice. But yeah, so been a real Sophie's choice
of weird shit, I.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Would say so. But we saw some really cool shit
on Sunday because we checked out the new Superman movie.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, James Gunn's Superman, which I feel like the
people who want this movie to be like extremely divisive
are trying to do the thing where they just say
it's very divisive, and I hear very few people actually

(14:13):
like disliking it. Yeah, well, I've got to say that.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Like I love the fact that Gunn did an interview
like a week before it came out and basically like
said that, you know, we don't have to see the
origin stories for all these heroes again in the movies
like they've been doing. Like I don't have to see
the Pearls hit the ground and Batman's origin story of
his mom, of his parents getting shot. I don't have
to see Clark come to Earth in the spacecraft and whatnot.
So the opening of Superman with all that text and
then setting up and literally we're in the movie.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I love that. Well, they did that with a couple
other superhero movies recently where they just they it's the
new spider Man. Yeah, yeah, they didn't. They just completely
skip them getting bitten. Yeah, basically, so the one with Tom Holland,
I'm pretty sure they skipped his origin, yeah, which I
loved because like, we've seen it, We've seen it plenty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, and that allowed us for to get literally right
in the action, because I mean Superman starts and he's
already just gotten beaten. A battle goes and heals again,
and then it goes right back into battle and we
meet Lex Luthor.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
The only complaint I saw about Superman online that I
thought was really funny was somebody said, he's supposed to
be Superman. The whole movie is him getting his ass
kicked and uh, And all I could think was like, Yeah,
I want to go watch a movie where a guy
just does everything and it goes great, yeah the whole time,
and then and then just no, no, he just like, oh,

(15:28):
a monster shows up and kills it. Bad guy comes,
he kills him, kisses the girl, and then it ends
right when he goes to take a shit, He's like,
all right, now to take care of some business, and
then the credits could roll as he's just knocking off
a couple Kryptonian logs.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Kryptonian logs.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes, okay, Well it's like no, that's That's the thing though,
is like sometimes people's complaints don't really fit the logic
of being a human being, Like well, like, remember this
is one of you, one of yours.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh go ahead.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, it was about the speak No Evil. Yeah, it
was about the trailer. Didn't like that they gave away
so much in the trailer. Yeah, and and but my
point was, well, if they don't give away that he
starts turning psycho, then the trailers just so a family
comes and meets a nice family and they have dinner together.
But it is a horror movie. Come see it. Yeah,
people would be like, uh, what you know, it's hard.

(16:17):
It's hard though, I mean, trailers are a tricky thing.
They are.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
But like, I think it's funny to compare trailers now
to like, so I've got those trailer discompilations like Driving Delirium,
Trailer Trauma, which I recommend highly if you're if you're
a fan of literally sitting down and watching movie trailers,
those collections are like six and a half hours, if
not more sometimes sure, but it's hilarious to compare trailers
now to what they used to be, because like, for
the trailer, for example, I'll give like French Connection. French

(16:42):
Connection is like a three minute trailer.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You might have been watching an international trailer.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's possible, but I mean a lot of those older
trailers did give away a lot and we're a lot longer.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah. Well, but but it is important, and this is
a real thing that people don't understand, yeah a lot,
and not just like you at home watching, but I
mean like people making Blu rays and stuff will find
a real that says like Jaws trailer, Yeah, and then
it'll be three and a half minutes long. They'll just
scan it and put it out into the world or

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put it on it as a special feature or whatever.
And it's basically an international trailer is really a market trailer,
and those always give away a ton more because they're
really just a way for the buyers to watch a
highlight reel of three minutes to hopefully just buy it
without even having to screen it all the way, and it's.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Usually all the juicy stuff so that they know what
they're getting too.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And usually it's not well connected, like it's not extremely
well connected, like it won't it won't be perfectly like
but I was kidnapped and you're like seeing the b
roll as he's talking. It'll be just a really good scene,
a really good scene, maybe a narrator or maybe text
on the screen saying, like, you know, insane action, and
then this thing, this thing, this thing. Usually if a
trailer is like three minutes long, especially from back in

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the day, it's a market or international trailer. And you know,
when people are restoring, especially these older, lesser known movies,
they just see a reel with all the other reels
that says so and so trailer, so they scan it
and put it up. But I have noticed, especially places
like Severn, they've started to really be good about putting

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like market trailer or international trailer.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Well.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
And that's the thing is like a lot of those
places like severin Vincent Show will have the listing form
like international trailer, VHS trailer like stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
They'll label woman.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
So you know, but yeah, it's kind of funny because
like going through a lot of older trailers because I
just do sometimes he used to give away a lot
more in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, they did a study, and this drives my friend's
crazy when I explain this, because a lot of people
are like, they gave away too much of the trailer.
It's like, okay, I mean you're gonna see the movie. Yeah,
it's not like they show you who the killer was
or or you know, give away the last six minutes.
But they did a study where they showed people movie
trailers and then showed them one of the movies and

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did the testing, the test marketing that they normally do,
but they didn't tell them. They just said we're gonna
show you some trailers before the film. They didn't tell
them you're going to see one of the films, and
people tested highest on the scenes that were in the
trailer bar nune.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Now, part of that is because some of the scenes
are the most exciting, but it's also because you're setting
an expectation. Because imagine this for all the people that
get mad, like did you give away too much of
the trailer? Imagine this for a second. How many people
watch a movie and get mad because that scene wasn't
in the movie I saw on the trailer.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Which is very common back then too, especially.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Well, and it happens now too. I mean that happened
with Joker too. There were several like little sequences that
ended up being cut from the movie in the olden days.
You know, when you were cutting a lower budget movie
in the sixty seventies eighties, you would use outtakes in
the trailer always save money, because you would have to
make a copy of a scene in order to create
so you would use alternate takes, you would use alternate whatever,

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You would use something right before a line flubbed in
order to save some money. That's a very very common well.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
And also it's hilarious too because the amount of scenes
and trailers that are not in the movie the theatrical
version will say, will show up in the TV cuts sometimes,
or the TV cuts will have you know, twenty extra
minutes sometimes.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh yeah, because you've got to fit the timeslot properly
so that they can fit enough ads and interstitials and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Because Uncle Buck still has multitude of scenes missing to
this day. Apparently that are some that are in the
trailer and some that are on the TV cut.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Sure well, The most famous TV cut I think in
the world is Halloween's TV cut because it had way
more stuff which they actually shot while shooting Halloween two,
which Halloween two also has a really good TV cut. Yeah,
because they knew, I mean back then licensing like Halloween
to I think it was NBC or one of it

(20:45):
was ABC, NBC one of them. I mean, that's like
millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Halloween two's TV cut, though, really doesn't make me laugh
because they take some liberties with some things because I'm
the one that always come The two that always come
to mine are the scene when he goes into the
couple's house to get the knife and leeds on the
cutting board. On the TV cut when she turns around
and screams, and like they normally have the shot of
her reaching in the blood, there's a still frame of
Michael in the scene when he kills the nurse in
the hot tub.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, you know what, Dave, they're not wizards.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
The other one is Jimmy doesn't find miss Alves and
the TV cut the explosion is what knocks him out.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Nice. Yeah, well it was tough. Well, and and also
you know, they don't want the audience to feel like
they're being ripped off, like, because that's the other things
when people say, like why is the TV cut different,
It's like, well, they could just put a big black
box over the violence or whatever, but then you would
feel like you're jypped out of what you're trying.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
To watch, or you're watching storytelling.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
That's a hilarious story telling. No, but but yeah, so,
like I think one of my favorite examples was on
Return of the Living Dead, they had that I forget
what suicide had on his back jacket, but it was
like a ton of swear words. Yeah, and they shot
every scene where you could see his back again with
the same jacket but it said TV version written on it.

(22:05):
That's funny. That's really funny.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, because I know the one that I always think
of two is in the Bird Cage when they show
the shot of Hanka's area a Zacadora cleaning the pool
out with the the a thong that it's a speedo on.
They drew shorts on him in the amc versus.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
It's hilarious when they do that. No, there's been a
lot of that over the years. Die Hard with a Vengeance.
Oh yeah, he's wearing that shirt that says I hate
and then a very offensive word towards black people. Not
sure it's a sandwich or sorry, sandwich pard. Yeah, he's
wearing a sandwich board that says that, and on the
TV version it just says I hate everybody or everyone
or whichever, which which is funny though, because then when

(22:42):
you watch the TV version, it feels like they live
in like an alternate, like hyper violent universe, because it's
like he's wearing a sandwich bar that says I hate everyone.
Called the police. It's like, call the police, somebody's got
about to get murdered. It's like, uh, well, in the
original context, I believed that, Yeah, in this one, walking
through Harlem with a sandwich board that just says I

(23:03):
hate everyone. I feel like they sell those on the corner.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
But no, going back to Superman, I think one of
my favorite things about this version and Gaven, Like again,
I've only seen Christopher Reeves version once now, but what
I loved about this version was there's so much gun gets.
This thing that is that has to do with background.
Stuff that happens in the background in this movie especially
is hilarious. The scene when Clark is in his apartment

(23:31):
and Lewis is there and they're fighting that giant squid
in the background.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, there's an inner dimensional monster being fought by other
superheroes in the background. As they're talking and she's like,
do you like briefly, she goes, should you help them out?
He's like, oh, they've got got that. But he doesn't
even say it like funny. He just means he's like, well,
they've got this, Yeah, we need to talk. You know.
It's very very fun. But it wasn't super crazy jokey, no,

(23:54):
but it had a lot of levity. But you know
what I thought was really impressive for James gun And
I saw what he was doing when the movie was
over and the credits were rolling, and I noticed, after
you know, a three minute scroll of effects artists, we
got to the soundtrack listing. Yeah, four songs, yes, in

(24:16):
the whole film. Four Now that doesn't include the original score.
Four songs. Yeah. I thought that was quite a flex
because he's famous for working popular music into I mean,
like to the point where one of my favorite things
about Guardians of the Galaxy is the soundtrack.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
See I love the Suicide Squad. When they when you
open with the Suicide Squad getting wiped out and then
they go to the people that died by the Jim
Carroll ban.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh sure, but but I mean when I say I
love the soundtrack Galaxy, I mean like I literally like
listen to or just that I have the soundtrack I
listened to in the car. But no, you're right, like
he has a really great way of picking popular music.
He did that with Peacemaker, had a lot of really
great uses of popular meat.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
He was I think even Slither did too, probably but.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
He probably couldn't afford that much pop ups. So my
point is, though, so to do Superman one of the
biggest budget, biggest superhero movies of all time, where he's
famous for doing that, and then he didn't do it,
and I didn't notice. The only reason I noticed was
that it was such a short credit listing. There's only
four That's why I went, WHOA, there was like one band,

(25:24):
Oh yeah, crab Crabs, Killer grab Joys, Crabjoy a Mighty
crab Joy which they played the song. So I really
enjoyed it. I had a really good time with it.
I'm not a particular Superman fane, and honestly, the biggest
criticism I've heard were just people saying like it was
a pretty good Superman movie. I've heard a lot of
people say, like, love the Superman. The movie was fine,

(25:47):
but the Superman was great. Superman is great.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I think David uh is it corn sweat or Karin
sweat corn something? Yeah, korn sweat, I think is how
you pronounce it.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
But he was great.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Rachel Brashonam was great, and Nick this whole, as Lex
Luthor is fan fucking tastic.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Did you see Gun said how he discovered the guy
he played that played Superman in Pearl? Yeah, so that's
how he discovered him, was watching Pearl.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
And also we got to say Crypto, you know, steals
the show too.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh the dog, Yes, yeah, no, the dog is pretty
pretty fun and great, Like the.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Use of Crypto is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, well much, which is a thing with Gun, especially
in these big, big movies like Guardians of the Galaxy
and stuff. He loves to take any anything you see
and pay it off later. He's very obsessive with it. Yeah,
so Crypto's initially humorous ways pay off later in a
big way. So it is nice because it also makes

(26:40):
you feel less like you're getting just a ton of
you know, fan service or whatever, and instead you're getting
like an actual attempt at telling a story. Yeah. So,
and I'm a sucker for anything with the Kent, with
the Superman's human parents, they always make me happy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh, and the the the Kansas family in this one
so freaking heart melting, heart melting, heart melting. They're not heartwarming,
they're heart melting.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, but no, so, I I mean I would go
see it again. Oh yeah, I really liked it. I
want to I want to go see it again.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Already I was ready to watch it again when we
were done in that first time seeing it.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, me too, No, honestly, like I would have even
considered if I hadn't had to work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
But we also just got back this evening from seeing
I Know What You Did Last Summer twenty twenty five, Yes,
the Legacy sequel.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
The Legacy sequel to I Know What You Did Last Summer,
which may sound familiar because we just recently talked about
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer the sequel,
and I appreciated the nods which slowly got more. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, I mean, if you want to have a great
time with I Know What You Did Last Summer twenty
twenty five. Just drink every time they say nineteen ninety seven,
you'll get.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Pretty slosh, You'll get pretty slash, get pretty slosh.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, but no, I thought over So, for those who
are not aware, basic what's happening in this one is
you've got another group of teens that get involved in
an accident that causes the life loss of somebody, and
now a year later they are haunted again by somebody
sending notes. It says, I still know what you did
last summer and I know, yeah, and a murder they're saying,

(28:14):
I know what you did less summer.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I still know. That's the next one.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, I know, but yeah, but no, and then a
murder happens, and then there's a whole What I liked
about this version of the story was there was a
whole addition to the fact that they are trying to
completely and did wipe away everything that happened in the
ninety seven for Southport.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah yeah, they like the town itself, has tried really
hard to forget for lots of reasons. Yep, which is
not an uncommon trope.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
No can't force screen oh well yeah, or Halloween Halloween, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Not just the Gordon Green. But I mean, like in
Halloween four, it's like they are in Halloween six. It's
like they banned Halloween for a while and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
And yet in Halloween four you can still buy that
mask in stores, still one of my.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Biggest well, and Halloween four they still had Halloween.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yes, but they also still sold Michael's mask in stores
because that's how he gets his mask.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah. No, that's a lazy move. I mean, although it
is just a plain Jane mask, you could argue that
it's like it's just a mask that's ubiquitous in that universe.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
So why is there so much blood on the ambulance
not inside the ms. There's plenty of blood in the ambulance,
but there's so much blood on the ambulance in that movie.
You're talking about Halloween four?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Still, Yes, let's talk about Halloween five instead. No, fuck you,
there we go.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
But yeah, I know what you did last summer. I
thought it was fun. It takes a lot of big swings,
especially with its legacy characters. That's all I'm going to
say on that, But overall, I had fun with it.
I think it will definitely it'll definitely divide fans you're either.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Gonna love it or hate it. I don't think there's
gonna be an in between. Yeah. I think I didn't
hate it by any stretch. But we've had the bar
set very high with some recent Legacy sequels over the
last five ten years. Yeah, I did not. I feel
like this one had the oomph. I did not get

(30:03):
the vibe that whoever wrote that like really was into
the lore of I know what you did last summer.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
It felt like there were really strong scenes and you
and I were talking about this off Mike a little bit.
But like the last twenty minutes did some really odd
choices with its characters.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
And also the post credit sequence is a very big swing.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah. I mean, well, I would I would not be
shocked in the least if that was decided to be
done after the fact. Because the other thing the movie
did was it had a little bit of a schizophrenicness
about how much of a fan service it wanted to be.
Sometimes it wanted to be a big fan service, and

(30:47):
other times it did not want to be a fan
service much at all. I loved all the fake outs.
I would say that the first ten or fifteen minutes
of it was extremely strong. Yeah, with the way they
were playing with your expectations, because it is isn't a remake,
no not, it's a retread. Yeah, so you're expecting kind
of the exact same thing, and then they're like, no, no, no,

(31:07):
why would you get the exact same thing. We're not
giving you the exactly well, and.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
It doesn't have your normal beats as a slasher movie.
They really kind of sold you out a little bit
on when the kills were going to happen, and like
they would wrap it, some of them would just come
out of nowhere like where you're just be like, oh shit,
this is happening now.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay. Well that also was because I thought they had
an immense amount of red herrings. They absolutely did, and
so they had to kind of make sure that if
they had somebody on screen that they were trying to
make you wonder was the killer. Yeah, they didn't want
them to be stalked and killed because that would ruin
the surprise of like, oh, I guess they aren't the
killer because they just got a hook through their neck.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So I liked that. I thought that was all handled
really well. I didn't find it until the end. It
wasn't particularly cringey. Yeah, it got kind of cringey towards
the end.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Like I said, like the last twenty minutes, it's a
bit make or break. I think what I really really
liked about about this movie as a whole was that
it did give due respect to its original predecessor. They did,
you know, the legacy sequel characters are not help all
will say it again, they're not Texas Chainsaw and Sally
Hartstey Like they didn't know that was rough, that was rough.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
No, they really sprinkled the the legacy characters in here
and there, Yeah, which also kind of annoyed me because
they end up playing a major role in the in
the hole of Everything. Yeah, but they're just barely there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
But and I mean, and you know, I'm not gonna
spoil it, but there are some surprises too, for sure
for fans.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's just there's this part a part of me where
it's like, Okay, on one hand, you're cashing in on
the name, you're cashing in on the concept. So do
you want to just give us Freddie Prinz and and
Jennifer Love hewittt running around in the rain again? Yeah?
Like because we all loved it, Yeah, or do you
want to give us something totally new? And it felt
like almost like they were beholden to keeping the legacy

(32:54):
characters in the game here and there.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say this too, I
think that the new crop of characters, they weren't bad,
but I remember two of their names out of all
the ones that we were given.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
My only problem with the well, my biggest problem with
the characters were yeah, they were a little light. Yeah.
Even the main character didn't really have a lot to her,
Like I mentioned how we like basically because at one
point when when things were kind of happening, I was like,
do she have any family or anything? Because it never
referenced like my mom or my dad or anything. But
she's at her hometown from college. You'd think there'd be

(33:28):
somebody there, yeah, other than her, you know how old
high school friends.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
And I thought more of the town lore would come
come about, but I guess it just they kind of
just threw you some fake outs.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
More so well, because there'sn't really a town lore. It's
just it was a normal town and then murder happened,
and then some people were covering it up. They did
make it seem like it was lascivious but not. But
it wasn't exactly so, which I like that too. I
mean it was a good who'd done it? Yeah, enough
of a good who done it?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah? Was it?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
There was one other thing like, yeah, I think the end.
It ended kind of rough. It felt kind of like
it had been meddled with, ye, but I can't lie.
Like when you mentioned that the lead actress was the
lead in Bodies Bodies Bodies, my first thought was, Man,
why didn't they get the people who made Bodies Bodies
Bodies to make I know what you did last summer?
Like why not get something? Because they kind of handed

(34:20):
like an upstart team who had done some Marvel movies
and stuff as writers, and and all I could think
was like, man, you know, they couldn't have grabbed like
I don't know, just somebody who had had like a
like a surprise, like an a twenty four person yeah,
or a neon. They're having you know, the Neon people
are having a lot of luck, Like you couldn't have
got like the people who did Cuckoo. That could have

(34:41):
been interesting. I don't know what it would have been.
I'm just saying, like that part felt a little bit
more like, I don't know, it just didn't feel like
I would be curious what the pitch would have been. Yeah,
because it didn't feel like there was a big swing.
I think about what they were going to do with it.
I think there's definitely some studio meddling in it by far.
With the ending, I would say, because yeah, there's just

(35:01):
like I said, it just takes some swings. But no,
I think it's absolutely worth the watch. I don't think
it's bad per se.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I enjoyed it. I think if you're a fan of
the series, you'll find things to pick out of it
to enjoy if you don't enjoy the movie as a whole.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
The only other problem I had with it was the
best friend of the main character, the rich blonde girl. Yeah,
like we all like a bubble head or an air
ahead character to chuckle with, but like she could qualify
for disability. She was so stupid. Yeah, like her IQ.

(35:35):
I mean, if like is not high enough to you know,
pass a class, like it's it's gotta be sub sixty.
Like she just there were just all these silly There
was a part where she's just like her you know,
doesn't spoil much, but like her ex boyfriend is over
and like some people have been murdered around her, and
then it's like, do you want to cuddle with me?
I don't know, And I'm like, that was a day ago.

(35:57):
Well I saw a murder. I'll put it.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I'll put this out there, not necessarily a spoiler. But
then you have the scene where the guy goes into
the steam room and the glass is written and says
you're next. And then what's he doing. He's just sitting
on a dock drinking beers, like not even his doc,
his doc, but still like he's not even buckling down
or batting down the hatches are.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, the fact that he was in a steam room alone, I.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Mean there's that, yeah, But I mean at the same time,
when you get a message that says you're next, I
would think you would do something.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah. They were not the smartest characters, and I think
that's what got it kind of cringey later on, was
that some of the characters were all of a sudden
being very smart or well they were trying to be
very smart, and I was just like, I don't buy it.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Well, and it also did one of my least favorite
trips that I talked about last week where once the Killer.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
The killers really psycho. Yeah, the killer all along. Yeah,
I looked at you when the killer started talking like that.
And although that gives a spoiler, the killer is the
ability to speak, I spoiled the whole movie. No, but
but it was a fun time. I will be very
curious to see how how it does. Yeah, same because

(37:04):
I don't think it's gonna do well. But I could
be wrong because we saw it preview night. Yeah, so
by the time this airs, it'll be opening weekend will
be over, and we could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I think this is second preview night because I think
it actually did.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Drop last night. Why would it drop last night?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I had friends that went and saw it. I don't
know if it was just special or what it was,
but I had a couple friends. I mean around here, yeah, Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Hm, I don't know. Because there's no holiday weekend, so
previews were today. That's why it only started at five o'clock. Yeah,
but we we went to a five thirty pm show. Yeah,
and we were like two of like four people in
the whole theater, which doesn't isn't great, but it doesn't
mean anything because more people are gonna come to eight o'clock,
nine o'clock, ten o'clock.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I can't remember the last time that we had a
preview screening that was like legitimately packed. Recently, I would say,
I don't know, yeah, anything.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's been a little while. But well, we also don't
go to a lot of preview screening, I mean, not eve.
We mostly we mostly go the Tuesday after opening.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, yeah, but no, I had fun with it. I'll
be curious to see how it does. And if you
enjoyed it, feel free to write us in and let
us know what you thought of it too.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, I guess I'll give the email address. You're just like, no, no,
just write us, Just write us. That's do you even
movie pod at gmail dot com. We do love to
hear from you guys.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
So with that all being said, let's get on a
boat and we'll leave Southport.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
We should set sail.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yes we should, because we are talking about one that
I had no idea was a favorite of yours. I
don't know when I figured out that you knew this movie,
because like, this is one that has been with.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Me for a long time. It was on HBO all
the time.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
That totally makes sense. Yeah, but it was one that
like I've never heard many people talk about, and that
is nineteen ninety two's Captain Ron. Yeah, with Kurt Russell,
one hour and forty minutes, rated PG. Thirteen for elements
of sensuality and for some.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Language elements sensuality.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
IMB synopsis says a chicag inherits an old yacht. He,
his wife, daughter, and son fly to the Caribbean island
and hire a dubious captain Ron to sail them on
an adventure to Miami.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I mean pretty much my synopsis.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
When Martin and harriss an old yacht, he and his
family hire an unconventional captain to help them sail the
boat to Miami, setting off a series of chaotic events.
Pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
No, that's a pretty good one.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, one tagline this week, only the only ones. Martin
just wanted a nice, quiet family vacation. Instead he got
dot dot dot Captain Ron.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Captain Ron currently rentable on Primate Fandango, not streaming anywhere
but touchdown, so not surprised.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Director and one of the writers on the film is
Tom Eberhart. He gets his start in nineteen eighty four
directing and writing a little film called Soul survivor Oh
Shit Yes, then the same year, directions and rights Night
of the Comment Yep. Then nineteen eighty eight, writes and
directs The Night Before with Steve Guttenberg. Goes on to

(40:05):
do Captain Ron in ninety two, Face Down in ninety seven,
Rats with a Z in two thousand, Rat I Was
a teenage Foust in two thousand and two. Also in
this time, he's also a writer on All I Want
for Christmas in nineteen ninety one, Honey, I Blew Up
the Kid in ninety two. He also directs in nineteen
eighty eight, Without a Clue, Gross Anatomy in eighty nine,
Parker Lewis, Can't Lose in nineteen ninety, Space Rangers in

(40:28):
nineteen ninety four, Divine Rapture in ninety five, Twice upon
a Time in ninety eight, and in two thousand and
seven Naked Fear. The other writer on the film is
John Dwyer. He gets his writing credit for Captain Ron
in ninety two, and then in twenty sixteen, This Is
Fucking Crazy Bud twenty sixteen Confessions of a Serial Killer
based on Henry le Lucas. There is no information about it.

(40:50):
You can find the IMDb page, but there's nothing on it.
But what did you say his name was John Dwyer?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
That was your fake name the director used on that film.
No shit, I bet that's misattributed. Okay, oh wait no, yeah,
because that's it's well he could no, No, he might
have worked on Captain ron As like a in some
kind of advisory thing. But John Dwyer is a fake
name guy.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Because yeah, twenty sixteen Confessions of a Serial Killer is
a is a listing.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, well, that's just wrong. There's no twenty sixteen Confessions
of a Serial Killer. I mean, we've talked at length
about that Professions Zerial Killer. Yeah. Yeah, that's just IMDb
being wrong.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Okay, Well, moving down to our cinematographer, we have Darren o'catta,
who gets to start in nineteen eighty four as a
DP on Kid Video, goes on to shoot No Mad
Raiders in eighty four, Monaco Forever in eighty four, then
in eighty eight shoots a little film called Phantasm two oh.
Then in eighty nine shoots a little film called Survival
Quest Wow. Then in nineteen ninety shoots The Dave Thomas

(41:51):
comedy show Elvis in nineteen ninety, Punk Vacation in nineteen ninety,
Blind Vengeance in nineteen ninety, Wild Hearts Can Be Broken
in ninety one, In a Child's Name in ninety one,
which is the Tom McLoughlin true crime.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Movie that I told you about.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
All right right, yeah, so we shot that Boris and
Natasha in ninety one.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
II.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
That movie was always on TV list.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
It was The Captain Drawn in ninety two, Airborne in
ninety three. Then he goes on to shoot My Father
the Hero in ninety four, Eyes of Terror in ninety four,
separated by Murder in ninety four, Big Bully in ninety
six with Tom Arnold, of course, Black Sheep in ninety
six with Chris Farley and David Spade, Mother's Instinct in
ninety six, Vanishing Point remake in ninety seven, Anna Karina

(42:32):
in ninety seven. He shoots the Celine Dion Concert in
ninety seven, as well episodes of Dawson's Creek Senseless in
ninety eight. Then in ninety eight he also shoots a
little film called Halloween H two Oh Oh Wow. Follows
that up in ninety nine with Lake Placid.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Oh wow, Wow. I was expecting him to go only
into TV. Yeah, and now he's heading right back into features.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Okay, So Lake Placid ninety nine, Wasteland in ninety nine,
Texas Rangers in two thousand and one, goes on to
shoot Doctor Doolittle two in two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Now we're talking about film.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Good Advice in two thousand and two, Joe Somebody in
two thousand and one with Tim Allen.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Oh god, I forgot all about that one.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
One of my all time favorites, Cradle to the Grave
in two thousand and three with Jet Lee and dmx H.
Then goes on to shoot Mean Girls in two thousand
and four, Geez Paparazzi in two thousand and four, Just
Like Heaven in two thousand and five, Another favorite of mine,
Stick It in two thousand and six, then goes on
to shoot Sex and Death one oh one in two
thousand and seven, Baby Mama in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh my god, baby, everyone forgot about baby.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo Bay in two thousand
and eight, follows that up with Ghost of Girlfriends Pass
in two thousand nine. The Mathe McConaughey movie I Am
a Fan, follows that up with another favorite of mine
in two thousand and nine, The Goods Live Hard and
Sell Hard with Jeremy Pivot.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
That's a great fun love that. That's a fun comedy.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Then goes on to shoot the series Switched at Birth
in twenty eleven twenty twelve American Reunion.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Goes on to shoot Made in Jersey in twenty twelve,
Movie forty three and twenty thirteen, Franklin Bash in twenty thirteen,
Let's Be Cops in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I kind of liked Let's Be Cosey. Cops is fun.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Dolphin Tail two in twenty fourteen, goes on to shoot
episodes of Castle in twenty fifteen, Gray's Anatomy in twenty seventeen,
Scandal in twenty eighteen, The Last Thing He Told Me
in twenty twenty three, and most recently stationed nineteen and
twenty twenty four. Wow, Darren o'catta has a fucking resume.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Let me tell the resume. Side note by the way,
about John Dwyer, Yeah, I had it backwards. John Dwyer's
his real name, Mark Blair was the fake thing he used,
and from what I understand he did work on Captain
Ron and that was one of the only films because
he was mostly a I believe he mostly did commercials
and industrials as a career, so I don't think he

(44:44):
had much else to be on IMDb next sense. So anyway,
that's it's important that we clear up the mystery about
Confessions of Serial Killer.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
From twenty sixteen. I was just like, did they remake
it and it never came out?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
No, that's I don't know what the hell. Somebody was
creating a listing and didn't know what they were doing,
so they probably just put the year that it was
or something.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
So going to our cast, we have mister Kurt Russell,
of course, who plays Captain Ron on the film. He
gets a start in nineteen fifty nine on Dennis the
Mena's one hundred and ten credits on his resume.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
By the way, Holy crap.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Everybody that I'm going to talk about, the three that
I picked in for the casting in this all have
over one hundred credits.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Wow. Yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
So Kurt Russell's Captain Ron gets to start on Dennis
the Mez in nineteen fifty nine, goes on to be
In Happened at the World's Fair in sixty three, The
Eleventh Hour in sixty three, Guns of Diablo, The Virginian,
The Fugitive, follow Me Boys in nineteen sixty six, The
Road West Horse in a Gray flannel Suit, Daniel Boone
in sixty nine, The Computer That Wore Tennis Shoes in
sixty nine. Then came Bronson in sixty nine, The High

(45:47):
Chaparral in nineteen seventy, Love American Style in nineteen seventy,
The Barefoot Executive in seventy one, Fools Paradise, Charlie and
the Angel, Gun Smoke in seventy four, Strongest Man in
the World in seventy five, Harry Oh The Deadly Tower
Police Story, The Quest does Elvis in nineteen seventy nine,
The John Carpenter movie.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I have never seen it. I've always wanted you never
seen it. I haven't, It's always wanted to.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
It's a good it's a good telling. Then in nineteen
eighty Lands Used Cars. That's too fucking Haigh follows that
up with Escape from New York in eighty one. Okay,
follows that up with The Fox and the Hound in
eighty one, The Thing in eighty two, Silkwood in eighty three,
Swing Shift in eighty four, The Mean Season in eighty five.
Follows that up with the Best of Times in eighty six,

(46:30):
where he co stars with a Rob Williams. By the way,
have you seen that movie?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Best of Times is Robin Williams is on a football
team in his high school and he misses this big
catch and that is all he's known for. So then
Kurt Russell, of course is the star quarterback. So Robin
Williams like kind of wants to do his image. So
they decide to do this football game to revitalize everything
and try the catch again.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Okay, that's kind of sounds not a great movie.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
It's pretty funny. Okay, not a great one, but it's
pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
See its.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Best Times in eighty six follows that up with Big
Trouble in Little China in eighty six, goes on to
do Overboard in eighty seven. Follows that up with another
favorite of mine, Tequila Sunrise in eighty eight, which is
him Mel Gibson and Raw Julia and Michelle Feifer.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I need to see that, Yeah, you do.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
One of one of the most underrated of his. Honestly, yeah,
I would say that is probably one of his most
underrated movies. Not a lot of people like it though,
too oh well, fair enough guys, Winter People in eighty nine,
Tango and Cash in eighty nine, Backdraft in ninety one,
another underrated Unlawful Entry in ninety two with Ray Liota. Oh,
of course, yes, Captain Rod in ninety two, then does

(47:36):
Tombstone in ninety three, follows that up with Forrest Gump
ninety four, which he played Elvis in Stargate ninety four,
Executive Decision in ninety six, Escape from La in ninety six,
Breakdown in ninety seven, probably a future episode on the
show Me Some Breakdown, Soldier in ninety eight, three Thousand
Miles to Graceland in two thousand and one, one of
my favorites of his. Vanilla Sky two thousand and one,
Interstate sixty two thousand and two, Dark Blue Miracle, Jimminy Glick,

(47:59):
and La lah Wood in two thousand and four. Of
course I watched his scene today when I was putting
this together. He's oh so good in that Sky High
in two thousand and five, Dreamer two thousand and five,
Beside in two thousand and six, Grindhouse, Death Proof in
two thousand and seven, Cutlass Touchback Art of the Steel
in twenty thirteen, which is another one I recommend if
you haven't seen that, he's putting together a team to

(48:20):
steal a famous piece of art, So he's basically putting
together a heist team. I saw it on Netflix when
I was working at the TV station back other day.
Really really good, has a really solid twist too. Furious
seven and twenty fifteen, Bone Tomahawk twenty fifteen, The Hateful eight,
Deep Water Horizon, The Fate and the Furious Guardians, The
Galaxy Volume two, Christmas Chronicles in twenty eighteen, Crypto Once
Upon Tano Hollywood in twenty nineteen, Christmas Chronicles Part two

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and twenty twenty f nine, The Fast Saga in twenty
twenty one, What If, Monarch, Legacy of Monsters, Rivals of
Amazon King in twenty twenty five, and most recently Smurfs
in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Of course, yes, so, Kurt Russell. I mean, if you.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Haven't seen half of those movies, you're missing out because
there's a lot of good stuff in there.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Oh, there's a hell of a lot. Yeah. Other in
the cast.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
We also have Martin Short, who plays Martin Harvey in
the film one hundred and fifteen credits on his resume,
well not surprised by that. Ye Cucumber in seventy two
is where he gets a start, then goes on to
be in The David Steinberg Show in seventy seven, for
the Record in seventy nine, Lost and Found Love Boat,
the Associates, I'm a Big Girl Now, Taxi in eighty one,
Second City TV in eighty two, Sunset Limousine, SNL in

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eighty four, Tall Tales and Legends in eighty five, Three
Amigos in eighty six, Innerspace in eighty seven, follows that
up Across My Heart, The Complete Mental Misadventures of Ed
Brimley in eighty eight, Three Fugitives in eighty nine, The
Big Picture in eighty nine. I Martin Short goes to
Hollywood in eighty nine, Tracy Allman Show, Pure Luck, Father
of the Bride, Captain Rodd in ninety two, then goes

(49:49):
on to be in We're Back a Dinosaur Story in
ninety three, Clifford in ninety four.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Which I feel like that movie kind of hurt his
career some Clifford. I feel like whether I don't if
it was a big success, but people, I feel like,
kind of got it in their head that Martin Short
was just annoying, and I think it might have been
because of Clifford.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I mean, he's very annoying Clifford. But well, that's still
a great movie. The Pebble and the Penguin in ninety five,
Father of Briye, Part two, Mars Attacks, Jungled a Jungle,
A Simple Wish, Merlin, Prince of Egypt, Alice in Wonderland,
Mumford Get Over It, Prince Charming, Jimmy Hu Trump Boy
Genius in two thousand and one, where he played the
voice of the main alien, Curb Your Enthusiasm in two

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thousand and two, One hundred and one Dalmatians Patches, London
Adventure in two thousand and two, The Best of Them,
Treasure Planet, Primetime, Glick in two thousand and three, Jimmy
Glick and La La Would in two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I liked the Jimminy Glick stuff. He did great. I
feel like he was a little too ahead of his time, Honestly,
he was not. Just First of all, I love that
his voice would just always start really high and go
really low. So tell me a little bit more about
your career. But also like, do you remember how you
would like you would like while they were talking, he
would like start sitting up like higher and higher on

(50:59):
it chair and then he'd be like laying across the
arms and you fall over or.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
How he just completely phase out. Oh yeah, and we
just like interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I also loved his notes for her. His questions were
always on crumpled up paper. That was always my favorite.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, I enjoined me some Jimminy Glick.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Well do you remember how Jimmy Glick and La La
Wood starts?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
He plays David Lynch. Oh wow, Martin Short is David
Lynch in the very opening of that movie is talking
about Jimmy Glick.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Oh my god. Yeah, that's so funny. Oh yeah, no,
it's great.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Arrested Development in two thousand and five, Law and Order
SVU in two thousand and five, Santa Claus three, The
Escape Clause in two thousand and six, The Spiderwick Chronicles, Damages,
Hoodwink two, Weeds. I forgot he was in Weeds. Yeah,
oh yeah, how I amut your mother? Madagascar three Franken Weeny,
Legends of Oz, Dorothy's Return, The Wind Rises, Inherent Weiss, Mulaney, Unbreakable,
Kimmy Schmidt, Difficult People, Modern Family in twenty sixteen, Hairspray,

(51:52):
Live BoJack Horseman in twenty seventeen, The Simpsons, Last Man
on Earth, Magic School Bus Rides Again, Big Mouth in
twenty nineteen, Adams Sanley in twenty nineteen, The Morning Show
in twenty nineteen, Aquaman in Akaman in The Lost Kingdom
in twenty twenty three, Grimsburg in twenty twenty five, and
also currently on Only Murders in the Building.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Oh yeah, man and I fell out, but that first
two seasons of Only Murders in the Building, I really
really like.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
It's a fun show.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I need to get back into it. Yeah. Same.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And also on the cast we have Mary kay Place,
who plays Katherin Harvey in the film one hundred and
forty three credits on.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Her resime that doesn't shock me. She was in everything
for a long time and still is in a lot.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Gets her start in nineteen seventy three on All in
the Family, goes on to be in Mash in seventy four,
Mary Tyler Moore Show Bound for Glory, New York, New York,
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, Forever fern Wood, Captain Kangaroo in
seventy nine. More American Graffiti in seventy nine, which I'm
not a fan of that movie. Ouch, I'm not a
fan of American Graffiti.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I'll say it, Oh, must say it, like I got claused.
I really really.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Wanted to like American Graffiti because it's one of my
mom's favorite movies. It's one of my grandma's favorite movies. Uh,
Xander my butt, my best friend, one of his favorite movies.
And I've seen it three times now, and each time
I watch it, I like it a little less.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Wow, that's how I feel about Napoleon Dynamite. Well, you're wrong.
The first time I watched Napoleon Dynamite, I really liked
it so much that two weeks later I rented it again,
and I was not a fan. Like it got worse
to me for some reson. I think I gave it
another chance, like five or six years after that, when

(53:21):
I was like twenty something. Yeah, I was probably twenty
five or twenty six. I mean, I don't think it's
horribly unfunny. I just don't know. It just didn't quite
click with me.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I revisited it a while, like a couple of years ago,
and it's still fucking hits with me. But I mean
I've always liked it from the start.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Well, I mean I liked it that first viewing. Yeah,
although I always wonder what is with that director because
he thinks there is very little as funny as Hispanic
people talking slowly.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Did you see ah, what was that movie called Gentlemen Broncos?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
No, No, I didn't see that was weird. I saw
Nacho Lebra and I was good after that. It was fun.
I mean it's based on a true story, yeah, which
I which I always thought that the true story was
really cool, but uh no, I just kind of it
was fine.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
So American More American Graffiti in seventy nine, starting over
in seventy nine, Private Benjamin, Modern Problems, Waltz Across Texas,
The Big Chill in eighty three, which I forgot she
was in, even though she's a huge role. I just
didn't reconize her. I didn't recognize her in terms of endearment.
Eighty three For the Love of Money, Explorers, Hey explorers,
you know the pairing with The Fire in the Sky,

(54:27):
Oh Smooth Talk, A New Life, Portrait of a White
marriage in eighty eight, Out on the Edge, Bright Angel,
thirty something in nineteen ninety, Crazy from the Heart, Samantha
Bed of Lies, does Captain Ron in ninety two, then
goes on to do Just My Imagination in ninety two,
she was in.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I don't know. Do you remember how much I loved
the movie Samantha. Oh, yeah, that's a great film.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
It's the one you got recently with What's her Face?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Was in recent That was like the beginning of Lockdown.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I hate you.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Don't say that. I'm just being honest. You are being
honest because I found a deep like out of print
DVD for a couple bucks. But I've always loved that movie.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Hell is her name? She's in Gooney, She's in Pecker.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I always struggle with this, the name.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
So yeah, Samantha in ninety one, bet of Liizes ninety two,
katayin Ron, Just My Imagination, Telling Secrets, Tales of the
City in the Line of Duty, Price Avengeanes in ninety four,
which I just watched recently, Teresa's Tattoo in ninety four,
that horrible movie we watched.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, that I hunted it down for you. By the way,
her name is Martha Plimpton.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Limpton, Yes, my very best friend. In ninety six, for
my daughter's Honor. In ninety six, I have God the
rain Maker, how to make the cruelest Month Pecker in
ninety eight point last scene being John Malkovich, Girl Interrupted,
Committed Wild Thornberry's My First, Mister Human Nature, Further Tales
of the City, The Safety of Objects, Citizen Baines, Leap Ears, Undeclared,

(55:43):
Sweet Home, Alabama, Lown Order, SVU, Latter Days, The Handler,
Death and Texas Killer, Driller, Silver City, West Wing, Lonesome,
Gim Nine Lives, Jack and Bobby Numbers, Mama's Boys, Saving Grace,
City of Ember, Pushing Daisies, King of the Hill, Julie
and Julia, Youth and Revolt.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I love that movie.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
I need to revisit It's been Ality, Oh man Fred
Willard rip Uh, It's complicated.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Two thousand andnine, Shrek Forever After twenty ten, Board to Death,
Big Love, Oh yeah, fuck.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
She is in Big Love. Really great role. Yeah, like
incredible arc for her character in Big Love.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I would think about restarting Big Love.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Oh, It's it's worth it. Yeah, it's such a great film,
a great series.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Rather because I restarted it when Paxxton passed, So that's
been she probably almost a decade now.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, I rewatched it like four or five years ago.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, Life in Times of tim Suburgatory, Bad Milo, Californication, Holidays,
Miss Meadows, The Mentalist, Looking the Intern, Family Guy Grayson,
Frankie Blackish, Downsizing, Grey's Anatomy, The Romanovs, Shameless, nine one one,
Lone Star, and most recently My Father's Dragon in twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Man, she really is and everything she is. I want
to mention real quick because you mentioned John Waters Pecker.
I love Pecker.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
We know, David do not fucking clip that.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't me. I'm not the one who might do it.
It would be somebody else who should definitely clip it.
No they should not. But no, I first saw that
movie in I was in high school. What year did
that come out? I forget ninety eight, ninety eight, So yeah,
I was. I was in middle school maybe, and I

(57:19):
was at a like sleepover kind of thing, and this
these kids, this kid, one kid wanted to rent it
because he thought it was like a dirty movie of
some sort and he convinced his mom to let him
rent it. And I had seen Serial Mom and maybe
one or two was that before.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
That two thousand and one, So yeah, that was laughter.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
But I've definitely seen Cerial Mom and maybe one other one,
so I kind of knew what we were getting and
they were all just like, what is this? What the
fuck is this? It was very funny. It's my favorite
memory of that. I mean, I like that movie fine,
I think it's pretty damn good, But man, that memory
of them just like, what the hell you want to know?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
One of the waters movies that I came late to
that I really freaking love now is a dirty shame?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
A dirty Shame's I think that that one got unfairly
maligned when it first came out. I think mainly because
he cast Johnny Knoxville.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, that was I think that was definitely a curve
ball on that one.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Oh I thought he was good.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
He's so good in it too. Oh yeah yeah, oh man,
dirty shames so much fun. So what was your first
time watching Captain Ron.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Sir many Unknowable Sunday or Saturday afternoons on HBO. Okay,
I was always surprised because there's brief nudity in it.
There is, And I remember as a kid being like,
they're showing this at like right now, Okay, I mean cool. Yeah,
So but I remember catching it on there in bits
and pieces and bits and pieces.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
And then.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Maybe in my late teens, I want to say, I no,
you know what. No, I watched it on demand because
on demand was a new thing when I was sixteen
and seventeen years old. Yeah, and I mean on demand
like HBO just had like the list of movies and
it was for a very long time. It was like
the same forty films. Yeah, And that's how I first

(59:09):
watched Captain Ron from beginning to end, and it was
I mean, I just thought it was really funny. I
like Kurt Russell a lot, obviously, I think I think
if you don't like Kurt Russell, it's kind of weird.
It's like a weird thing to say about yourself. It's like,
and I don't like Kurt Russell, It's like, okay, well
did you drive yourself here? But I remember thinking it

(59:30):
was very, very funny. I remember as a kid being
shocked because I was very young, that Martin Short was
in it, because I knew him from Clifford, and he
was like getting busy in a shower with with a
lady and I just because I was so young, I
didn't quite understand that, like you know, you could do both.

(59:51):
I guess, like what the what? So, but I always
liked it. I thought Captain Ron was always very very
the character was very very funny. H One of my
favorite gags is right at the beginning when they think
he's dead, Yeah, because he put the eye patch over
his good eye to keep the sun out. So yeah,
I've always enjoyed Captain Ron quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, this was one that came into my life because
it was I think it was my dad's birthday because
that makes senses to Yeah, I think it was my
dad's birthday and my grandparents were visiting and we had
just gotten a DVD player, Like this was like first
time getting a DVD player. We had rented like Steel Magnoias.
Along came A Spider from the library. So like the
only movies we owned I think so far, were Under
the Tuscan Sun Spider Man because that was mine and

(01:00:33):
I can't remember what else. There was a couple others,
but my grandparents had gotten my dad some DVDs that
they'd found, which included The Extreme Adventures of Super Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
All Right, I like that. I love that movie. I
have it on blue ray.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I just got it from Keno recently. And the other
one was Aspen Extreme okay, And Captain Ron was the
third one. And I can't remember if my parents had
seen Captain Ron. I knew my grandparents had because that's
why they got it for Dad, right, But like they
started like talking about it and like talking about scenes,
and it was just like this sounds hilarious, and I
think that night we put it on and like within

(01:01:06):
the first like ten minutes, I was hooked. And this
was one that like played our household for years and
years to come.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Weren't you an overboard heavy house Yes we were there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
You go, you were a very heavy overboard household.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
So there you go. I mean just kind of they
kind of they aren't really, but they kind.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Of put Kurt Russe on a boat.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
See what happens? Yeah, see what happens?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Poseidon?

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
So never mind, Yeah, that went downhill quick Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
But no, it was one that played all the time,
like at our house, and it was a movie that
like again, no not a lot of people knew, like
even when I would bring it up, like nobody really
else had seen it. So it was kind of one
of those things when I knew that you would like that,
I was just like, oh shit, yeah you are my.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Friend talk about things turning bad for me, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
So getting into Captain Ron, we start with Martin Harvey
who is going to his job as an office worker
in Chicago. And I love this opening sequence because we've
got a really cool little music theme that goes through
and they're going through the city. We also watch as
Martin arrives at the building and a window has popped
out of the building and final destination onto the street below.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of like of broad humor right
at the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
At the very beginning, Yeah, because he's even trying to
get his coffee and like he can't like get He's
like reach under this table to get it, runs into
this woman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
My favorite is the elevator. The elevator because they all
cram in there and then a bike messenger crams this
moment with his bike holding it up. But then somebody
is talking to Martin. Short's character says his name, and
the guy's like oh, you're so and so package for you. Yeah,
but my favorite thing about that is not just that
he so he signs for it and he gets it
from him. But then when they have to everybody has

(01:02:43):
to get off to let some people off on the
elevator going up. Yeah, the bike messenger gets back on
the elevator, just gonna go up. He's yea, he delivered
his thing. You'd think he'd you'd want one downstairs down Oh,
well it didn't look like a BMX bike, but I
wasn't looking that close, you know. Extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
But yeah, he gets this letter from the carrier and
the letter basically states that his uncle has passed and
his uncle or grandfather, I can't remember her uncle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Uncle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, his uncle has passed and he has left him
this boat that he there's a sixty foot yacht once
owned by Clark Gable.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
And his uncle had like disappeared, like yeah in the seventies. Yeah,
so they'd never heard from him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
So he gets home and we meet his wife, who
is Catherine, and she is I'm guessing an architect of
some kind. She has the schematics of this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, she's like working on plans. Probably an architect.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, and Martin immediately goes up to the attic he's
looking for this picture, and she goes up with him,
and he finds the picture of him, which hilarious photoshop
of him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
On this notat Oh yeah, I do want to mention
real quick about architects and movies. Yeah, I feel like
architect is, or at least for a very long time,
was the go to you work in an office and
I don't know what people in offices do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Or you work at home and that's why you can
be at home and well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Oh yeah, if they're like a drafting architect, it would depend.
But I've just noticed that a lot. It's like they'll
have somebody be in an office and they're almost always,
especially from like the seventies, eighties, nineties, they're most always architects. Yeah,
Like there's never it's never like an executive assistant or
a secretary or a file clerk. It's always you know,
it's never like a senior vice president of sales. It's

(01:04:22):
always architect. Yeah, that is no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I mean an architect was it was. It was a
trope for a while. I mean it was especially in
kids movies, like a lot of parents were architects. I mean,
the biggest one that I always think of is Ben
Hanscomb in it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, well I think that might also have
something to do with with a kid's understanding vaguely what
an architect is. That's fair as opposed to a VP
of of International Northeastern Sales. Yeah, that is true. This
is very true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
So Martin also has two kids. He's got a sixteen
year old daughter named Carolyn an eleven year old son
named Ben. When he comes home, his wife's on the phone,
like talking to to a client, and he's like, you know,
coming behind her and giving her kisses and everything and
like kind of putting the moves on her a little bit.
Then ventures up to the attic to find this picture
of this boat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yep, And she goes up there with him. He says like,
you remember my uncle I told you about it, Like
was weird he disappeared all those years ago. Yeah, And
she immediately goes into this hole like, oh god, let
me guess he's coming to visit because I really don't
have the time for this. And he's like, no, no,
he's not visiting, and she's like great, and he's like
he's dead. Yeah, Oh honey, I'm sorry, no, No, it's fine,
it's fine, it's fine. He left me something, so she
show he shows her the picture of the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Meanwhile, Ben comes home from school downstairs and he makes
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and some milk spills.
The milk all over his mom's schematic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
But for the record, the schematics are on the kitchen table.
They are covering the whole thing. Yeah, And when they
come back down, there's that great line where she just says,
who was eating on the kitchen table. It's a great,
great moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Well, I love it too, because when they're up in
the attic, it's just the two of them, Oh yeah.
And Bend's at the bottom and he hears the thing
about the boat. He's like, we're getting a boat, and
she goes, Ben, what if I told you about eavesdropping? Yeah,
but we're getting a boat, right, And then goes downstairs
and calls off road, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
We're getting a boat. Yeah. But of course he's mentioned
to her that according to three different places he called, yeah,
the boat could easily be worth a quarter of a
million dollars. Yes, And she's thrilled because she's like, we
could pay off the credit cards, we could get rid
of the second mortgage, we could do all these different things. Yeah,
it would really be a wonderful fresh start for us.
And he's like yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, but wouldn't

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it be an adventure to go get it because of
the place, And she's like, don't they have like boat
towing services.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Because the same time Tom de Tear aka Sat Potato.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Oh yeahs like St Potato. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Sat Potato is where the boat is currently housed in
Puerto Rico. So they have to go to Puerto Rico
and they have to sail it to Miami to the
broker to sell it, right the broker played by the
great Paul Anka by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah yeah, it's fun role too because u after they
get to the boat, it's all beat up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Oh yeah, And she.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Mentions like, we don't know anything about saying he's like,
there are tons of captains all around, just hire one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Well, and the reason that the the reason that they
decide because originally she's against it, she doesn't want to
go on the trip. But the one thing that pushes
it is Carolyn comes home with news because we see
her in the car with her boyfriend and she's like,
I'm gonna go tell them. I'm so excited, goes in
and tells them that she's engaged, and again she is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Sixteen years old. Yeah, and the guy is a real winner.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
That's a real winner.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
So they immediately cut from her engagement to them going
to pick up the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yes. And as he's looking at the boat, he calls
the he calls Anka's character. Yeah, and he tells him like,
what if it's not in very good shape? Yes, And
he's like, what do you what do you mean? You know,
he's like, you know, he doesn't it rough rough, you
know whatever in the gall.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Because Ankas says, I hear the boat hasn't been surveyed
in since nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yeah, so have you seen it? How's the condition? Yeah?
So after he tells him all that, he literally throws
the file into the trash because he's assuming it's not
going to be worth much any.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Yeah, and tells the secretariat that they had this really
good captain that was going to be taking it, and
he's like, I've changed my mind. Give it to somebody lesser.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Somebody local, local, give us some local, because I guess
they were gonna fly somebody there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
So in enters the film Captain Ron, played by the
great Kurt Russell, who drives up in a beat up
yellow car that is missing a headlight right where his
eye is also missing his glass eye happens on the
Southern car too when he gets the the Plymouth at
the end.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Yeah, both cars are missing their left head light.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
So Ron pulls up to the ship and he parks
his car, but we also watch him get onto the boat.
As the car rolls right into the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Bay and no one reacts to it, not him, not
anybody on the boat. He just gets out, walks up
and it just slowly just goes right off into the bay. Yep.
And he starts introducing himself. He meets he meets Martin short.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
He then assumes that uh Carolyn, that his daughter is
his wife. He's like, oh wow, she just keeps you
warm at night. It sha pa.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
So he introduces to the rest of the family and
immediately Bend his son notices the eye patch and ask
him how lose an eye? Ron playing it off just
like ah shark attack swab.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Yeah, off the coast of Australia. Yeah, we hit a reef.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
When I was captaining the This is the Sarah, the
US S Saratoga.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Yeah, that one, yeah, that one. Oh my god. He says,
we hit a reef and she was like the great
barrier if. He's like, ah, you've heard heard of it,
and so she's like did it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Did it sink? He was like, did your did you
ever have a boat sink? Or did you have did
your boat sink? He was like, oh no, no, my
client's boat, saying yeah, that was so good, so good.
He's so so deeply questionable in every every aspect.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
The one eyed navy veteran who claims to have piloted
the us S. Saratoga. And then from there it just
gets crazier and crazier because they need to go check
the engine. So they go downstairs. They're pointing oil into
into the engine because he tells him they have to
do it every morning to make sure that it doesn't
burn the bearings out. And originally he's going to get
the job to Ben and he's like, ah, no, it's
actually a serious job. So then Ben's ordered to take

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out trash and this starts the relationship with him and
Ron that I love because he's like, you know, how
good you know, why don't you go do the trash?
And he's like and he tells him, you know, you know, hey,
this is how boats work. You do this job, you
get another job, you get another job, you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Get upgraded from swab to hand to mate or mate, yeah,
to mate, and the kid seems to respond to that, Okay,
he does.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I love Ben in his relationship with this movie. My sister,
by the way, said that I was Ben anytime we
watch this. She just like, Ben acts a lot like you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
That sounds right, yeah, especially after Ben got a couple
in him, very like you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Well, the one scene that she always pointed out is
when Martin Short sets the boat on fire. She said
that was very mad.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I could see that. I could see that very clearly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
So they get they get the engine up and running,
and that's when Ron goes out. He's like, they're like,
you know, how are we ready to set sail? And
they're like, oh no, you know, You've got to do
some things. Then Ron realizes that the car, which is
the car he borrowed from his friend, is no longer
parked there anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Nope, and he looks over and sees.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
The bubbles coming up to where the car went in
the water, and also three locals looking down off the
dock at it. And right as this is happening, he
all so sees his buddy arriving to collect the car.
So he's like, you know, hey, you know, why don't
we go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You know, well, the best thing we can do is
just start the car get out there.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, So he unties everything, the boat starts underway, the
guy in the car grabs a rifle and starts shooting it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Man, if only that were the only time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, for real though, So he refers to Martin, his
boss by the way, So he's calling boss. Becalls Martin,
Boss calls uh, not Carolyn, the wife as a Catherine,
who is yeah, Catherine's wife. So calls her kiddy. So
they start sailing, and he goes, you know, we don't
have supplies. I will pick it up in Saint Hey.

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You know, it's just a little about twenty thirty miles
down the way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Yeah, he wants to get the hell out of there
right then and there. And I love how he just
explains it's like no, no, no, the best thing for
it is just to get it out on the water, so.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
They're sailing on the open water. He has Martin take
the reins of the boat, and that's when he's just like,
I'm gonna go downstairs and get some shit. In the
middle of the day, middle of the day, middle of
the ocean they're going through. So he, you know, he
and his family are just cruising on the boat and
they eventually get the Saint Haig, but they start running
into a lot of ships that are honking at them. Yeah,
and this is your favorite scene because he's just like,

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you know, can somebody go downstairs and wake up Captain
Ron And the daughter comes up and she's like, I
think there's something wrong with that captain guy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
What is I think he's dead? Yeah, And they go
down and look at him and he is laying there
I open yes, staring straight up, I open in mouth openly. Yeah. Yeah,
just just not moving at all. But luckily he wakes
up and it turns out he had put his eye
patch on his good eye, yeah, to keep the sun out.
But there's a great part. It was like, what happened?

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But I thought you lost her? He's like glass eye
swamped and he puts him back. That's one that always
I always remembered forever because I thought it was so funny. Oh,
I just switched the patch to keep the sun out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
So he gets up to the reins of the of
the boat, starts taking the wheel, speeds up, and they're
going into this little this little yacht club that is
a very tight entry for these ships, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Yes, So people are having.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Music, people are having drinks, they're enjoying the music, and
this boat is just creeping closer and closer and quicker.
And suddenly he's like, okay, throw down the not the rudders,
but the anchor. No, no, the rubber things. I can't
think he even even asked, because Martin Short's like, what
what is it? The things that block the boat? The
tires that blocked the side.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
So when they swill the bumpers, we'll call them that.
Oh sure, Yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
He puts the bumpers down and they literally maneuver this
boat to completely position right along the side perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
He nails it, because everybody on the on the at
this yacht club is fearing like they're running. They're like,
oh my god, he's gonna hit us. And then swings
it and I love it. He steps off the boat
goes to the bartender, he's like, ah, you know, give
me a margarita, and then walks towards the band and
everybody starts back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah yeah, man, no it Ron is such a good
example of just this weird drifter type guy. Yeah, who
clearly does have skills, it's just a matter of you know,
when he's sober and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Yeah, because I love the line when they're down below
he's like, you know, ah, you know, boats like their oil,
like just like captains like their rum.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
They do like the rum.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Why is that Captain Ron? So they party at Saint Hag.
They're walking around the town for a little bit, and
it gets to be night, and we see that Captain
Ron and the kids are playing monopoly, except the daughter
waits for Martin and his wife to go down because
they are going to christen the ship properly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Oh yeah, break a bottle inside exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
So he's left up with Ben playing monopoly because Carolyn
sneaks off the ship to go for a walk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah walk, yeah, to go party, to go party yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
So that's when Ron, realizing that the parents are gone,
he tells them that because originally he wanted to play poker,
and she's like, oh, why don't we stick to monopoly.
So then once they get some money because Carolyn pays
both of them to not say anything to their parents,
he's just like, well, now you got something, let's make
this interesting. So they wage around monopoly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Well, of course, got to keep it interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
You gotta keep it interesting. And my favorite thing is
he goes to move after Ron's beer bend does and
he's like, hey, what, I'm just moving. He's just like,
damn right to where you want your own beer, or
you want your beer, get your own.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Oh he was like, I wasn't gonna drink. He's like
that right, you want to drink, get your own beer. Uh,
So he gets a beer, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Meanwhile, Martin and Catherine are down below in their bunk
and that's when he gets the idea that they're going
to have sex, and in order for them to camouflage,
they're going to have sex in the shower by turning
the water on so that way there's no noise. So
they get into the shower, they turn the water on.
Everything's going fine until it turns out that they clog
the drain.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Yeah, a freaking washcloth goes into the drain sucked down.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
So, but also before that happened, there was a mop
handle against the door that completely got knocked inside.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Yeah, he takes it out and then it falls across
and locks them into this little shower, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
So the water starts filling up in this thing, and
they're like panicking because not only the trying to turn
the water off, the knob comes off, the water fills
up so quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, they're they're about almost chest high. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
So upstairs, Captain Ron's kicking Ben's assid monopoly because one
of my favorite lines is he's like, ah, such as us,
that'll be thirty six cents. That's half the money I have.
Shit happens, cough it up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Yeah, that shit happens, cough it up. Hey, that's a
valuable life lesson.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
So he tells them then that he's gonna go downstairs,
tell them they're going to run out the water if
they keep going at this rate.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Oh and by the way, you owe me two fifty
for the beer. Yeah that killed me too. You owe
me too empty for the beer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
And he's taking a sip as it happens, and he
just like his I s kit wide. So as soon
as he gets downstairs, the tank runs dry on the water,
so they're both it's trapped in the bathroom and he's like,
you know, ah, boss, I was gonna tell you, like
long showers can drain the pump. By the way, do
you know there's a mop panel front the door. Oh
thank you, Captain Ron. Yeah, I'll just get that opens
it and they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Just fall out. It's very, very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
So that is the first night on board, of course.
So by the next day, Martin's riding in his in
his ship log and he calls Captain Ron a moron.
By the way, He's like, Captain, I think he calls.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Me Captain Morony, which I wondered if he was if
that was like if he was trying to be clever
like Captain Morgan or if he was just being a jerk.
Could either way. They're all good, Yeah, they're all good answers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
So they're stilling out the next morning, and this is
when Ron kind of gives them the go down of
the ship. They start running through the things and Martin
is kind of falling behind the rest of the family.
Everybody else is kind of getting all the shippling go
and he's really not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Yeah, he's falling behind very quickly. Yeah, in part because
he kind of is resenting Captain Ron as time goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
And Ron's sweeping into his family like he's because it's
one of my favorite things is the one shot where
he's a kitty's steering the boat and he's got his
arms around there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah. Yeah, but he's like you feel that, you feel that? Yeah,
He's like, yeah, if it's pulling like that, that means
you're you're handling it. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
So the next day they decide that they're going to
stop off in the Caribbean, but they also learned that
Captain Ron doesn't navigate, No, he just he does. He
just kind of points the ship and if they get lost,
we would just stop and ask for directions.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Yeah, that's I mean, I guess when you're in the Caribbean,
like maybe yeah, you know, there are a lot of islands.
I guess what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I love it too, because he tells them that he's like,
well you heard a saying right, well, yeah, well we're
gonna go to the island just right to the next
of it. What's that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Ted's Yeah, Ted's I It's just Ted's teds teds so
they end up going to the wrong island, of course,
and Ron, to make it up for them, decides to
buy them lunch at its like burger joint in the
middle of this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
It's just an island that has like one little CANTEENA.
I mean, it makes sense because it's probably because they're
kind of out of the way. Yeah, but this is
one of my favorite confusions. Yeah, because as Martin Short
is going to take a walk because he's like, let's
make the best of it, let's explore the island, they're like,
makes so much cheese fries. Yeah, just stay on the
Ron says, just stay on the trail because there are

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gorillas in the in the jungle. And he's just like, son,
there are no gorillas in the jungle. Gorillas live in
Equator of Africa. Well yeah, it's like Equator equaterial Africa. Yeah.
He's like, so there are no gorillas here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Yeah, And he's like all right, So Martin Short goes
off walking on the past. Meanwhile, Captain Ron starts putting
the moves on on Catherine because the song starts playing,
they start dancing together. He tries to initially get Carolyn
to dance, and then so Katherine him share dance. Meanwhile,
Martin's walking through the path. He's also tawning Captain Ron,
mimicking him, and then goes off the path and runs

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into some gorillas.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, the other kind, the other kind. I love that reveal. Yes,
what he runs into are gorillas, Yes, you know fighters
soldiers led by General Armando. Yeah. So, and and his
response to that when they're on the boat, Oh god,
I love he's just like I he said, go real

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loves not girls.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Well, and I love it because him and Kitty are
they're standing down like the door thing or whatnot, and
he's just like, he's like, you know, he did it
on purpose, So like he's trying to, you know, undermine me,
and he's like, you know he did.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
I see it in his eyes, excuse me his I
you know, when he gets angry about Captain Ron, he's
so funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
So he goes downsta to get a screwdriver, and that's
when he sees that they're playing Monopoly downstairs. But he
also sees that Ben is polishing off some clips for
some guns.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
No, he's cleaning the guns themselves. Yeah, cleaning the guns. Yeah,
w D forty, which you should not really use on
a on a firearm. But he's got a couple of
pistols and two automatics and a mac ten, a mac ten,
a mac ten submachine gun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Did you hear, by the way, what he called it.
When he goes upstairs and dumps them. I forget automatic weapons?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Oh yeah, he says, automatic weapons. Yeah, well one of
them was yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah, so he goes, he goes, what are those and
they're like, oh, it's monopoly. He's like, no, those yeah,
two automatics in a mac ten.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
I thought we need him, you know, pirates, Pirates.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Of the Yeah, for the Pirates of the Caribbean. He's
like Pirates of the Caribbean. But a lot of the
time at Disney wand been a Dolly World. Uh yeah,
been Dolly World, have been whatever, And he's like, yeah,
you just want to have something in case you run
into pirates, And so Martin's like, we're not having guns
on this boat. Picks them well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
I love it because he goes to leave after like
saying that, and then comes back and picks them up
like this, like scoops them up and then carries them because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
He set them down to make a point. Yeah, And
then walks out and they come back and scoop.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Them up, goes back upstairs, goes to the side of
the boat, jumps them over, and we hear the bubbles going,
and Catherine goes, you know what were that? And he's like,
you're not gonna believe this automatic weapons. For get this pirates.
And that's when he's just like, you know, wait a minute, uh, Catherinron,
how did you get those guns?

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Oh that's the best part.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
You see the revolutionaries, you know, they said they needed
to ride and we're not having them on this boat.
Oh that's fine, We'll just give me back the guns.
And so Martin goes over to the side of the boat,
looks down cut to the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Gorilla gorillas on the boat and they're all in their
fatigues with their guns and their knives. But they're very polite,
very polite, like extremely they're good guests. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So that is when he decides that they are going
to give them a lift because they don't have a
choice to and they're going to where is uh san Juan,
san Juan. Yeah, they're going to San Juan. So they
are deciding to sail to San Juan. Everything's gonna be fine,
they're gonna arrive on this carnival night, except they run
right into a storm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Oh wait, no, no, no, they I think san Juan
was later. I think they weren't they trying to go
to Are they trying to go to the Rio?

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Because San Juan's where they get busted, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Yeah, san Juan's in Puerto Rico. Weren't they trying to
go to Brazil first?

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
I can't remember because I know because they have the
revolutionaries on the boat for a night and then they
run into the storm and then the storm is what
me initially takes them to the island.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Then they may have been trying to go to San Juan.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Yeah, but anyway, so yeah, they go in and they
run into a storm, and that is when we have
one of my favorite scenes because everybody is up top
after because they're all below because the boat's rocking back.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Don't worry, there's no way this could sink, and he's like,
you all might want to be up topic case this
all breaks apart, and they're all and they were already
tying on their.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Life best well, and I love it because Ben's like, moh,
my glass is broke, and she's like we'll fix some
we can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Hang on to something, hang on because he goes to
the sun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
So meanwhile, while this is all going on, Martin is
trying to give Captain Ron the benefit of the doubt
because like they're they're in a storm, they're in a
mess at this point. And he's just like, all right,
I know we're having some rough waters, but Captain Ron
says he knows where we are.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Now, why do you know this? Captron?

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
And he's like, you know, we we have our map.
Map flies away, they take the map out, all right, Well,
luckily all Columbus had to discover America was his trusty compass.
Touches the compass, the compass gonna fly off, Oh my god.
And that's when Ron is just like, yeah, he's like,
you know, I think everything's gonna be okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
He thinks everything is gonnay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Why is that When I filled up the boat, I
put in just enough gas for us to get to
San Juan and now we are.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Out of gas. I love this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
And Martin immediately jumps on him and he's just like
I've seen this before. Put something sharp and put something
hard into his mouth or whatever because he's attacking him.
And then slowly but surely they see the lights of
the island and they arrive.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Yes, ma'am, I love that. I'm a sucker for boat
movies and I love a good storm and a boat. Yeah. Terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Well, and I love it too because I think we've
skipped over one thing because there's one point where yeah,
we did, because at one point the ben is playing
with the with the general and he the General lands
on one of his things and he's like, all right,
that'll be sixty American dollars and the interpreter is like,
the General says, that's all the money he has, and
he goes tell the general shit happens, coughing up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Such a good movie. So yeah, they get to San Juan.
There's a carnival going on and in the riff raft
the kids get lost, Catherin Ron gets separated, so Catherine
and Martin are trying to find the kids. They decide
to go to the police station and smash cut to
they're in jail because Martin mentioned that they brought revolutionaries
onto the island.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Whoop, yeah yeah. And then when when they're told like okay,
we're gonna let you out, but you have to leave
the island.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
You're being expelled from the island when right now, So
before all that happened, though, Ron lost his eye because
Ben has his glasses broken, so he has a little
ipass peech on his glasses and Martin does not like that,
so he has him take the glasses off, and even
Captain Ron's like, you know, oh yeah, I don't want
to draw attention to myself, so it takes up the
eye patch and the eye is just wandering. Yeah, because

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he's he said before that the eye was not custom
made for me want it in a game, and that
you have to get those custom made. I ends up
popping out in the in the riff raff while they're
trying to look for him. So they end up getting
back to the boat and seeing that the party has
been moved to the boat. Now, yes, oh right, I
forgot something. What's that we forgot about scene where almost
catch the boat on fire? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so
they had docked previously, and uh yeah, because the revolutionaries

(01:25:28):
get pissed because they think they've been kidnapped.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
I forgot about that. Yeah, so that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Yeah, so the gorillas end up getting pissed at one
point because they get to a wrong island again, and
while they're at this island, Ron finds out where they are.
You know, it's gonna not gonna be a big deal.
There's this beautiful woman out from the ship in the
water and Martin short thinks that she's waving to him. Yes,
and Captain Ron knows her name.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Yeah. Yeah, He's like, I think he's waving to me.
He's like, no, no, no, She's like, hey, I forget
her name, but I can't remember. Hey, you waving me
or him you?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
He's like yeah, see, jumps off the boat swims to them.
So then Martin gets the idea to get the flare
gun and he's gonna shoot Captain Rom of the flare gun.
Apparently he's thinking about it, thinking about it. Oh, and
then Ben comes up, startles him, and he fires right
through the porthole into the ship. It goes into the toilet.
He ends up trying to get the flare out and
blinded in the process. So like he's like he can't see, So.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Now he's blind for a day. He went to a
doctor and the doctor was like, uh, your vision should
return tomorrow. Yeah, but I love like his was like
I can still see a little bit, and he's like
hitting into branches.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
With this, so well, well this is all going on.
They go on a walk on the beach and she's like,
you know, hey, I found something I want to show you.
She takes them back to the room and he still
can't see very well, so she has him feel around
the initials and she sees that Clark Gable and Carol
Lombard had their initials carved of the boat, proving that
it was Clark Gables boat.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Which could make it very value, very value, and also
how romantic.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Yes, well, and also because at least to them having
sex again. And you hear the daughter going, hey, who's
rocking the boat down there? So then back to San Juan,
so yeah, they've been arrested. They get back to the
boat and we find out that Captain Ron has moved
the party to the boat because he didn't want the
kids wandering around the island without their parents to be dangerous,
so he runs. They run into Carolyn first, and she's

(01:27:10):
schmoozing with this one guy and she tells him that
she got a tattoo recently and that it's to her yeah,
that he gave it to her and it's in a
private spot and they start freaking out. Well, then the
music is stopped at this point because they've arrived, and
Ben comes in with a tattooed eagle on his chest
and he's like, hey, who stopped the music And he's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Still got the eye patch. Beer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Yes, shirtless with the tattoo, a beer and he has
the eye patch. So he runs off, goes into the boat.
Martin chases after him, gets into the boat, trips over
some whiskey bottles, and that's when we see that Captain
Ron is on the boat with the chick that he
was in the water with earlier. They were playing another
strip game I think or.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Something like that. Well it ran out of money, Yeah,
so we start stripping off clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
One thing leads to another, and he ends up firing
Captain Ron because he's had it at this point, like
his kids are tattooed. And you find out the Ben's
tattoo is fake. It's not a big deal, but yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
End up leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
But what you find out is in the game of
Monopoly he's won, he's lost five hundred dollars that they
owed this gangster.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
On the island.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
It's so fucking crazy. Trying to explain this movie is crazy. So, yeah,
they they are owing money to this gangster and he's like,
you know, no, I'm not paying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Like, we're leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
He's like, I don't know about that, boss, and he's like, no,
you're fired. We're leaving, and they leave. So they are
on the water, they're shit sailing out and then the
guy comes behind on his ship and he's got a
machine gun. Turn and next they are left without their ship,
floating in the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Water on a raft. Yeah, they've been pirated.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Been pirated.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Yeah, yeah, the Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Pirates of the Caribbean. So they are on the raft,
floating in the water. They eventually get to land, and
that's when they start walking on the land and Martin
goes up to see where they are. He comes into
a sign that that shows them that they're in Cuba.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Yeah. They don't seem to understand till he points out
like here, let me. He covers part of the words
like yeah, Cuba. Yeah, Like so, I mean we were
an island. He's like, no, we're in a dangerous island.
Not a good place to be without a passport without anything. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So he's like get back to the boat and they're like,
you know, well, let's see what's going on. Ben ends
up seeing the ship is parked on the island, so
he sees that they have the ship there. So they
decide they're going to try and steal it back, but
they don't know how they're going to do it until
Captain Ron shows up Babe.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
The car ready to help them escape, and they're like,
we don't want to escape, we want to get our
boat packed. Yeah, so he they devise a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
So they end up getting the attention of the revolutionaries
and they're driving after them, or the gangsters are driving
after them, and he's circling the block. One thing leads
to another. He tells Martin to get out of the
car and go and run and start the ship. So
Martin gets on board the ship. He's trying to start
it secretly, and the engine's not turning over. The ends
not turning over. Meanwhile, Ron's with his family and the
family starts kind of start talking shit about Martin because

(01:29:43):
they're just like, you know, oh, Catherin, Ron, you're the coolest,
you know. Dad always tries to do this, but he
just always fails. And Ron, hearing this, decides that he's
going to try and make them realize how great of
a hero Martin is. So he gets the family back around.
They end up having the car crash into the truck
that's chasing them. They get back onto the boat and
Ron ends up tripping while going into the boat breaks

(01:30:03):
his leg, so we so we think. So Martin comes
up and he's like, you know, hey, you know, we
got to get out of here. He's like, you know,
my leg's busted, So you've got to be the one
to do this. So the whole family comes together and
releasing the ship and getting it back on blood.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
They have to put up the sails, right, yeah, yeah,
because there's no engine. Yeah, the engine burned out. So
they have to figure out how to sail, because they
even mentioned early on like, well, it has an engine,
so until we figure out how to sail, well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Because they're already so they're on the water and the
engine burns out, right, so that's when they're like, we
have to sail, and so they get the sails up
and everything, and one of my favorite parts is they
get everything running and then that's when they realize that
the pirates are coming up right behind him again, and
this time they have the machine gun ready to fire.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Yes, and as a last ditch effort, the mother gets
really angry and points the flare gun at them.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
But before that, we've got Ron below, who's telling, like
you like, they're telling the pirates are coming, and they're
like stuck in the water now. So he's like, you know,
you got to get the sails up. And he's like,
you know, that's the that's the spear.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
We're gonna fucking die.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
So he gets on the radio starts calling the coast
Guard and yeah, they start opening fire on the ship,
and Ron's trying to reason the coast guard. You know,
these people are taxpayers, so they start reasoning with them. Meanwhile, yeah,
they start firing on them, and Catherine gets pissed and
she goes, you know, well, I'm gonna take this flaregun.
You know, you set our boat on fire, we can
set their boat on fire. So she fires the flare
and it lands right around them, except there's a huge

(01:31:23):
explosion right in front their ship, revealing that it's the
coast Guard.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
That showed them, which suggests that they finally got out
of Cuban water.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
So the coast guard comes up and saves the day.
They are all good to go, and that's when they
get their sails up and the family is all together
because of Captain Ron.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Well, and then Ron is just it stands up to
like congratulate and he's like, oh ah, I'm a really
fast healer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
So they make it to Miami and that's when they
are going to part ways with Captain Ron. So he
promotes Ben from a swab to mate, which is a
really cute scene. And then my favorite thing about it
is right as he came into our life, he.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Varised, yeah, us passes in front of him and he's
not there.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
So they're sailing into the destination for the broker and
that's when paul Anka is on the dock. He's seeing
the ship coming in. And that's when Catherine comes in
and she's like, you know, as I see it, we
got two options. We could take this boat to Miami
or we could not, basically suggesting that they're gonna take
the yacht and sail now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
So they end up turning the boat around, sailing off
Paul Anka's like, you know, hey, I got your contract,
Like where are you going? Family's coming together and they're
sailing out at open water again and you could see
like they're all happy, and I love it because Martin
Schortz like, you know, She's like, you know, well, where
are we going? And he's like, I don't know what.
You know, if we get lost, we can just stop
off and ask for directions as Captain Ron. And right
as they're passing this out to see a couple of

(01:32:42):
young couple's on this boat and they're like, you know,
oh honey, you think it's gonna be us someday. And
Captain Ron comes off the top.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
But but it's better too. He's dressed completely, he's got
a poem attach, he's got a ponytail, he's got a
sports jacket on, very yuppy you. It makes you wonder
what Captain Ron something up? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
So that's when he also tells them, you know, well,
you know, we get the ship on the water, it's
the best way to test it, and they sail off again.
My favorite is the final shot where he the guy's like,
we know, well there's a lot of boats noise. He's like, oh,
you know, just get in the way. They'll get out
of the way. They're running right towards a fucking tanker.
Yeah ship, like this little tiny speedboat in this giant tanker.
And that is nineteen ninety two's Captain Ron.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
And I want to say, without a doubt, the family
that sailed off dead dead dead yeah dead, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
And there's a lot of comedy in this that we
missed in discussing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
There's so much, so much stuff. It gets so wacky
and fun.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Oh my favorite is the when they're doing the sander
and the sander he plugs it in and just takes
off and knocks Martin shortened to the water and so
that he comes to the Life Preserve, throws it in,
it sinks, and then he's like, okay, well.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Here's the ladder pump.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Oh you watch up that ladder, Bossothie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
So what do you think the budget was? By the way, uh,
fourteen million? Twenty four million?

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Okay, twenty four million dollar budget opening weekend. It takes
in four which is September twentieth of nineteen ninety two. Okay,
grossing worldwide twenty two So not a hit, not great,
but I bet you. It probably made a killing on VHS,
I mean maybe yeah. Shot in San Juan, Puerto Rico
and Chicago, Illinois, starting in February sixteenth of ninety one,

(01:34:24):
going all the Way to May. While originally sold as
a Walt Disney Pictures film, there were problems with subject
matters such as underage drinking, mild nudity, and language. It
was then marketed and released through Disney's Touchstone Pictures division.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
That was during kind of the heyday of Touchdown. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
In The script was written in mind for Chevy Chase
to play Martin. Billy Crystal, Steve Martin, John Ritter, John Candy,
and Richard Dreyfus were all considered for Martin as well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
I I can't imagine, like I mean, I can see Chevy. Oh,
I thought Chevy was considered as the dad. Yeah, I
could see. Oh oh yeah, I was talking about the ron.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Oh no, I got I got a couple rons for you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Oh oh those were all for the days, are all
for Martin. Oh okay, that makes way more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I could see Richard Dreyfuss.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Oh, he'd be hilarious, especially in that time period.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Of Steve Martin's two on the nose.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Yeah, he'd be too much. Uh Jon rig Mmmm, well
uh oh, he's so good at playing neurotic.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Yeah he could actually, no, no, he totally could.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
So now Captain Moore Ron is taking us into Cuba,
you know, pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Tom Arnold and Jeff Bridges were both considered for the
role of Captain Ron. Bridges had other commitments, and Arnold
passed over because he didn't have much movie acting experience
at the time and because his commitments to Roseanne, which
had reoccurring role in as he was also married to
Roseanne Barr at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
I couldn't see Tom Arnold. I mean, it would have
to be a totally different type of character, But I
could totally see Bridges. Oh yeah, it would be like
basically the same movie.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
The film's original title was Martin Harvey Takes a Cruise.
The film was retitled twice before release. First it was
Don't Rock the Boat, and then it was retitled to
On Wanderer because that's the name of the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Well, don't Rock the Boat. I could have seen if
it had stayed as a Disney movie. Yeah, that I
could see that being the title.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
According to to John Dwyer, one of the movie screenwriters.
Martin Short was originally cast as Captain Ron and Kurt
Russell was to play the family man, but Short and
Russell got drunk one night and decided to switch roles.
This has been confirmed multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
That blows my mind. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
But no, that was originally how it was. Short was
going to be Captain Ron and Russell was going to
be the family man.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
That I died. Wow, that blows my I can't I
can't even wrap my mind around a concept like that
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
When Kurt Russell was cast, John Carpenter was nearly called
to direct. Carpenter admits that he would have said yes,
but mostly for the excuse to shoot in the Caribbean. No.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I mean, it's like I always say about like, you know,
when people say why were Shark movies so popularly mess
and whatever? It's like take a vacation, getting people to
be like, look, we're going to Hawaii, or we're going
to the Bahamas, or we're going to Puerto Rico. We're
going to like be in beautiful place. Because if you notice,
the majority of follow up Shark movies after the original
Jaws movies were almost all in warm water. They were

(01:37:02):
almost all in like Florida, the Caribbean or Hawaii, sometimes
southern California or Mexico, but they almost never were like yep,
this is another one off the coast of Jersey. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Much of Captain Ron's personal wardrobe came from Kurt Russell's closet.
Many of Ron's mannerisms wearing the speedo the pirate like
raspy voice, were also suggested by Russell. His only objection
was his encouragement of underage drinking, but he was persuaded
when told it would fit the character.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
I mean I thought it did too. Yeah. So, Plus
if that kid had gotten like really wasted and puked
a bunch learning lesson.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
There is that Captain Ron's glass eye is a different
color than his right eye. Kurt Russell's eyes are famously
blue in real life. The Wonderer is actually a Formosa
fifty one catch three separate boats were reported to have
been used in the filming of this movie. When Captain
Ron introduced himself to the Harvey's, he says, his full
name is ron Rico. Ron Rico is a brand.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Of rum that's funny. Yeah. Both of the cars for.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Katherin Ron drives in the movie are missing a headlight
on the same side as his missing eye. At one point,
during regarding the debate over the existence of Pirates of
the Caribbean, Martin says, been to Disney World one too
many times?

Speaker 4 (01:38:08):
Have we?

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Captain Ron Ron states, you know, I don't believe I've
ever been to Disney World. Kurt Russell, of course, was
in many Disney movies as a kid, and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
That is funny because initially it was a Disney movie
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Rick Moranis was asked to play Martin Harvey, but passed
as he had too many other commitments and was raising
his children as a single father following his wife's then
recent death from cancer. His SETV colleague Martin Short got
the role instead.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Rick Moranis would have been interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
I could have seen it when the Harveys are coming
into the dock at the end, one of the boats
being stacked is My Way. My Way was one of
Paul Anka's biggest hits, sung by Frank Sinatra, amongst others.
Paul Anka plays the boat dealer Oh Okay. The name
of the pirates boat, Albondiga, means meatball in Spanish and
On the DVD commentary for Big Trouble in Little China,
John Carpenter Kurt Russell repeatedly joke about and mock this

(01:38:52):
film of mid gales of laughter. So I've got a
listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Yeah, I would be curious about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety two
s Captain Ron.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
You know, I was gonna say stream it, but I
think that one thing Captain Ron really has going for it,
other than a really good cast and being funny and
being kind of way out there, is it's very It's
very indicative of the nineties without being full of high
top sneakers and flat top haircuts and you know, vanilla

(01:39:22):
ice shit, it still manages to be super fun nineties fun.
It really kind of establishes the kind of like weird
mentality that was kind of going on with nineties movies.
So I think it's I think it's a rent it.
I think it's worth four ninety nine, three ninety nine. Yeah,
just to see it once if you never have, and
see if it's the kind of movie you really love.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Yeah, No, it's a rented for me as well. I
think it's one of Kurt Russell's most underrated roles. I
think he's built for it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Oh he's having a last the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
And the movie is is a good family coming together,
like on a on a journey, and I mean chaotic events,
chaotic events out the ass that lands you're faced against
and it's just really cute to see them come together
and Ron be the glue.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
That puts them all together. Yeah, definitely. So yeah, it's
a lot of fun for me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
So rented as well. We also get in the show
with a couple of recommendations. The first one I have
this week is nineteen eighty eight's The Great Outdoors, currently
on AMC Plus and Netflix. A Chicago man and his
family go camping with his obnoxious brother in law. This
is John Candy and dan Ackroyd. I so much fun.
The bald ass bear one of my favorite jokes in
that movie. Second I'm gonna go with two thousand and

(01:40:27):
six is Little Miss, currently available on Hulu and rentable
through Prime and Fandango. A family loaded with quirky, colorful
characters piles into an old van and road trips to
California for Little Olive to compete in a beauty Pageant,
a movie that I revisited like a couple of years ago,
and man, that movie stoles up.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Yeah, I've actually still never seen it ever. No shit,
do you guys see a Little Sunshine? You've said it before,
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
So what's your recommendation?

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Well, I went, you know, I don't know why, but this,
I mean maybe I do know why, but like, this
movie just kept coming into my brain as I was
rewatching Captain Ron Baby Geniuses Part two. But this is
nineteen ninety seven's Mkale's Navy. Oh wow, I love me
some Mkill's Navy. Yes, a retired Navy officer returns to
active duty along with a group of misfit sailors to

(01:41:13):
battle his former nemesis. It's one. It's really fun. It's
got you know, it's got the beach kind of vibe
on the ocean kind of vibe, the questionable mentality of
characters kind of vibe. Going Oh yeah, so that's that's
my pick. It's available to rent right now on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Did you like Down Periscope?

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
I love Down Parisat. That's a great film.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Do we have any emails this week?

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Believe it or not? No, Yeah, we do. Uh pull
if we actually last I checked, we had quite a few.
Oh all right, I want to remind you if you
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(01:41:56):
it's a comment on something we've talked about or suggesting something,
we love to hear from you. Do you have a
Movie pot at jamail dot com. This first one is
from Kevin. He actually wrote this to me via Facebook,
but I saved it. A great podcast this week I
pulled up Malibu High on two be pretty great. Have
you ever watched Zombie Lake?

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
I've not, but I'm sure you have. I'm sure you have.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Of course I have. It's a really bad movie. He's right, yeah. Also,
do you think you two will ever review Death Wish Too?

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
No, I'm gonna go ahead and say that, right. Wow,
that's a rough one.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
That's like death Wish too.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Death Wish Too is like the really really sleazy one.
If there's a death Wish we're gonna do, it's probably
gonna be Death Wish three.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
I mean, I love me some death wis death Wish.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Two is very sleazy and very unpleasant. I love the
Death Wish series, but yeah, two is probably the meanest
and grossest out of the series.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Wow, dude, Dave's the meanest host on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
You've got to be kidding. You know what's in Death
Wish Too?

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
I love me some Death Wish too. Well, this next
one comes from chees Dave. What mean.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I didn't say we wouldn't do Death Was Too? I said,
or I would not Death Was series?

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
We wouldn't do two? Okay, this next one got went
into came from dooevenmovie dot com. Awesome, and it's from Brandon.
He writes, I have a question about streaming that you
two might understand better. How did the free streaming services
get the lion's share of interest or interesting movies? I
have thought about this a lot, and it's not just

(01:43:31):
when they came out. They can have movies from twenty
twenty two that are interesting, also, films that used to
be a nightmare to find. Can add examples later if needed.
They're almost always free. Now what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
I mean, you can take that one.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
I was to say, you probably want me to take
that one. Take that one? Well, So in the industry.
We call it AVOD, advertising video on demand or ad
driven av VOD, whatever you want call it. Really that
started with Crackle. Crackle was one of the first big
ones and Hulu. Hulu was originally only about ads, and

(01:44:08):
it's grown obviously with Roku channel and to be fowsome local.
Now there's a I mean there is a plethora of them.
I mean Foston's where I watched Lower Level. Yeah, Fowston
takes a lot of stuff. And that's kind of my point.
So when you have an advertising video on demand service
like A to B, there's very little risk in a
lot of the content you're going to license because you're

(01:44:29):
splitting ad revenue. So if it doesn't make any money,
nobody makes any money. If it makes a ton of money,
you both make a lot of money. To Be and
the distributor when it comes to bigger name movies, to
Be and places like that are probably paying an upfront
fee as well to have it on their service. But
it also makes an incredible lack of risk for smaller

(01:44:50):
distributors to put these movies out. Also opens the opportunity
for companies that may not actually own the rights to
movies that people think are forgotten, Yeah, to put them
on those services. All of that, it's been getting a
little bit better at being policed over the last few years.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Would you say that it's more likely that you're going
to find some of the tampered with an edited titles
on like to Be and Fowsome more so than you
would like Prime and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
No, not Prime Prime. Prime has has had a horrible
history of like of like the wrong content uploaded or
unauthorized content on the right. Now still I can't believe
that I had a movie on on Prime that the
distributor had lost their rights and I got it down
in like two weeks. Yeah, but and that's without a lawyer.

(01:45:36):
I just did it myself. But so when it comes
to a VOD there's a lot less risk and there's
only benefit for the streaming service to have lots and
lots of titles in its catalog. To Be has become
a little bit more picky. That's why you're finding way
more stuff on Fossome because Fossom is a newer company,
So they're taking kind of whatever's offered to them and
putting them right up there for you to to stream

(01:45:58):
for free. So yeah, it's really just a sort a
place where you can put a low budget movie and
your risk is very low and the potential reward is
very high, So you dump it there and hope that
people watch it, because if they watch it, you make money,
and if they don't, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
I mean, and you really do have a kind of
a hit or miss sometimes with the quality. But it's
so awesome to have these movies available as sure easily
as they are.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Well, what happens a lot there is if you have
a film that nobody really cared about for a really
long time, the only master tape they may have, they
don't even know which cut it is. The whole m
I won't go into a huge thing, but the whole
too B is editing the movies down is not real.
The distributors are doing that. To B does not have

(01:46:47):
Number one, to B does not have the editing staff
to take care of this shit. And number two, they
don't care too They would just reject the movie. They wouldn't,
they wouldn't edit it themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
So do you think there's distributors submitting it? Because it's
the times we're living in are easier to get to
get those through.

Speaker 1 (01:47:05):
I think they're probably worried something will happen like what
happened on YouTube, which is that one day a company
like Crest is going to be like, huh, an ad
for my toothpaste came up right after like an anal
rape scene. I would do it, and they're gonna be like, well,
we want to know what our stuff is on, what
our ads are on, because that's kind of what happened

(01:47:26):
on YouTube. So it can get a little hairy places,
like if I had to guess, most of the intentionally
edited content you're seeing on tube are distributors in advance
not handing them salacious material because they don't want it
to get pulled some day. They're future proofing it by

(01:47:46):
chopping it down or removing a certain amount of excessive
nudity or what have you. That's just their way of
future proofing, because you have to understand that, as great
as to be and fowsome in them, all are everything
that's old is new again, and all avod is is
basically television you watch on free television. You watch something

(01:48:06):
and there's commercials, so like if you pull it down
from your antenna. But the difference is with two B
or whatever, it's on demand and it's anything. Yeah, so
imagine for a second, like would you know X, Y
or Z be on broadcast TV. No, you don't even
have to have an account to log into two be
to watch it. And as a further expanse into how

(01:48:28):
everything that's old is new again. The big thing now
is what's called fast, which is free advertising supported television.
That's basically Pluto Pluto any place where, or Samsung TV
any place where there's a TV channel just playing with ads.
You get higher payouts for those ads because it's a
captive audience because it just plays and it's literally television.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Samsung will censor language but not violence.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Oh I believe that because they could do it with
they are. Yeah, I can sensor language.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
I watched a Rambo Last Blood was playing on the
Action Channel and totally showed the dude get his heart
ripped out. But oh man Solan cannot say those fuck words.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Yeah, I mean the same thing happens with broadcast. I
watched on the Movies channel, which is one of the
MeTV channels. Yeah, that's over the air. I watched Silent
Night Deadly Night. I was excited for like all the
ridiculous edits none. It was just the swears. The swears
were gone, but like the guy got shot right in
the head. I was like, oh yeah, okay, So I

(01:49:27):
hope that answers the question somewhat. It's a low risk
place to put all kinds of films, and if the
services are hungry for content, they'll also accept non HD content,
they'll accept four y three content, they'll accept stuff with
really low visual quality sometimes. Yeah, so that's really it's
it's the wild West. Yeah, so you're gonna get all

(01:49:49):
kinds of stuff you haven't expected on there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
So I hope that answers your question. That's the long
of the short of it. This next one is from
Phil Enrique and David. I've got a couple of questions.
I'm honestly curious about what your favorite media is. Oh,
that's an interesting one. I mean there's more. I was
just taking a drink of water. Okay, I don't know.

(01:50:15):
I'm a sucker for laser discs. I love the audio
range they have and their box art. Have you guys
ever watched a movie on CED? Aka, let's play a
movie on a record media CED that's video disc. Before
laser disc, there was video disc, which was basically like
a vinyl record that played movies. I've bought some for

(01:50:36):
like the the novelty of it, but I've never watched
one because I don't have a player.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Same I own a couple of laser discs, but I
can't play them, so I framed them.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Yeah. Yeah, well that's what I do with you know,
the laser discs, is I put them in vinyl record frames.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
Well, you know, sometimes you have a good friend that
lets you know that there's a terminator too, signed by
multiple of the cast, waiting for you at half priced books.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Yeah yeah, I still can't believe how cheap I got that. No, So,
but what's your favorite media? I mean, given how.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
How crazy I was back in the days of hunting DVDs,
DVDs will always be supreme for me. I remember how
excited I was get my first Blue Ray player because
The Crow came out on Blu Ray and my parents
got it for me. Along with Boondock, Saints and Lost
Boys were like the three first Blue rays I owned.
But there was a time where DVD hunting and just
finding movies on DVD was just an absolute blast. And

(01:51:27):
I mean I still go back to some of my
oldest today, even though they do have blue ray releases,
because it's just like I just have this stat nostalgia
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Sure, uh, it's probably DVD for me as well. Yeah,
that was when I was able to collect media like
really and I like the size of the boxes. I
think that it's nice how much artwork you get. But
that being said, I mean, I'm I get rid of
DVDs like every day. Yeah, I'm not a massive collector.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
I mean, and VHS was definitely the start of everything
for me obviously too, because that was like that I
remember when I got a VCR in my room. First off,
had Lepergon two was stuck in it. My dad got
me a VCR at the flea market let a copy
of leper Gn two was stuck in it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
Lucky kept.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
I kept it, played fine, watched it many years. But no,
I mean VR, VCRs and VHS tapes. That that was
the initial of me being able to get stuff into
my house and watch it in my bedroom. That probably
my parents wouldn't have loved knowing that I was watching,
but like that was the start of it. So I
mean those two especially were were my favorites. See for me,

(01:52:31):
that was cable that that makes sense. Cable was entirely
that for me. If I would have had the good
cable channels, then.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Yes, well you should have been stealing them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Well that was we got those in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Oh, you were stealing in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
No, No, we got Time Order cable. But I watched
so much Showtime Extreme in high school once we got
those channels.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Showtime Extra well fair enough. Yes. Finally, What's what movie
defined your childhood and annoy wid your parents to no
end because you wore out the VHS tape? Good? Good question.
Let me think on that for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Do you have yours?

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Of course? Mantra Squad No, No, I kind of no,
But more so Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to the Secret
of the Ooze. Okay, I just would never stop watching it,
and I feel like it had to get pretty boring
for my mother.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Batman Returns was probably no Jaws.

Speaker 1 (01:53:27):
Jaws.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
When I when I was actually talking to my friend
about this because of the anniversary and everything, when that
thirtieth or fortieth anniversary VHS came out, that was such
a big deal, Like that was my first time like
realizing what bonus features were, like having the documentary and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Having the outtakes all that stuff. I loved that Jaws
VHS set.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Honestly, if I would have thought about it, I probably
would have never gotten rid of it because I kind
of wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Oh well, time to hop on eBay and yeah for play.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
For ten for nine dollars from that last I looked.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Let's see, most kids had the Lion King. I had
Disney Horror. Yeah, something Wicked this Way Comes, and the
black Hole.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
Yes, black Hole is still terrifying in this day. I
love those those early Disney movies like Return to Oz,
Something Wicked This Way Comes, Watcher in the Woods, the
black Hole. Disney made some really scary shit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Back in the day. I've only seen Something Wicked this
Way Comes.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Oh we're changing that. No, I'm gonna traumatize you to
Return to Oz.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
I recommend both of them if you haven't seen them.
Just well done horrors that have a lot for adults
to get chills from. Thanks for your shows. It's my jam, Phil.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
Awesome Phil. Those are some great questions.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Yeah, thank you, Phil. I want to remind you guys
email us at do you even movie pod at gmail
dot com like our buddy Patrick did. Okay, When I
was fourteen, we were living in apartments and one of
our neighbors set off one of those spinny things that
shoots sparks as it spins. I can't think of what
it's called. I was sitting in the chair that wasn't
particularly stable, and the idiot idiot decides to put the

(01:54:57):
thing on the ground and it spins towards towards me,
knocked and knocked me out of the chair, almost giving
me a concussion. Jesus love the show. What do you
think about Starship Troopers or Nobody, Nobody, ether One, Nobody
or Nobody, either one I would be happy with. I mean,
Dave loves Nobody Nobody a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Most likely coming to the show because I think we're
gonna cover it closer to when the sequels coming out,
which I think is next month. If I'm not mistaken,
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
So Wow, Okay, I don't check. And Starship Troopers.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
I've always loved Starship Troopers, but it's one that I
don't go back to often.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
The only thing that ticks me off about Starship Troopers,
if I'm completely honest, is people now talking like they
discovered it was a fucking farce that that it was
a parody. I don't understand how people could think like that.
They figured out Starship Trooper. Starship Troopers was a I

(01:55:54):
can't think of the right word.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
It's Paul Verhoven. I mean, Verhoven is the master of satire.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
But it's also clearly a satire. Yeah, Like, it's clearly
a satire. Yeah. I watched a whole documentary on YouTube.
I think it was like a half an hour long
about what Starship Troopers got wrong because Verehoven isn't really
good at satire in the way he thinks he is,
because I guess Verehoven had came out and said like that.
The whole point was like what a horrible world they
lived in? But then when you watch it, it actually

(01:56:19):
looks like a utopia, like it's it's a it's I
don't think he hit the mark very well, but but
I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
I would totally talk about August fifteenth, Nobody too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Okay man soon ps Dave, I'll always know what you
did last summer is awful. You're not wrong to me.
It's probably worse than Jaws The Revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
I was reminded of something and I'm going to do
a spoiler for all always know what you did last
Oh the Fisherman gets unmasked and is a fucking zombie
at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
That's awesome?

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
That sounds great?

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
I want to watch it now?

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
Think you go watch it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
All right, audios? And then we have one last one
from our buddy Danny. Oh awesome. Hey, guys, I know
October is less than three months away, and it's also
my birthday on October thirty, first Halloween, baby, So I'd
like to suggest two of my favorite movies to watch
during the month of horror and spooky Funay. The first
one is Killer Clowns from Outer Space from nineteen eighty eight.

(01:57:16):
I like that one. I'm not as into it as
I used to be, but I like it. I still
love it. And Trick our Treat from two thousand and seven.
Everybody loves Trick or Treat. That's a great film. I mean,
there's nothing to not like about Trick or Treat. They
are in my top movies of all time, and I'd
love to hear your thoughts and trivia on them. Thanks
for the entertainment when I'm driving to and from work

(01:57:36):
and when I'm doing chores at home. Keep being handsome, Enrique.
You got it, pal, and keep searching for that yellow belt.
David found it? You did? You were gifted?

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
Well, no, I was given that one. I found the
other one, and you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
Never brought it up on the show because it's dead
cap from a friend and fan, Danny, awesome day, I
call Cap on day. You would have taken it. You
would have sent me a picture? Would I would I
because it would have been one of the few reverses
you could successfully have.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
And we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
I guess. Okay, No, I did not find it. God damn,
I knew it. Triggerar treat.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Could it could come to the show? I I love
that movie, but I feel like everything's been said about it,
but we did do Crampus Weds. I mean, yeah, dog
Dogherty's work. Yeah, Okay, it's possible, but both of those
movies are possible. I love Killer Clowns very much, and
there's a lot on that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
I mean, hey, Danny, it could be worse. You could
have recommended Death Wish too and just gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
I have nothing against that movie except for the fact that,
like it's it's a rough watch to recommend people to
check out. Out of all the death Wish movies. Okay, bro,
you and I watched it together, If you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Say so, I said, we may have.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Yes, we suggested Malibu High. But like literally Death two
has like a five minute rape scene.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
With the with the the four minutes and twenty four seconds,
but I timed, would you stop?

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
Yeah, it's got that, and like the treatment of his
daughter is awful in that movie, Like Death Wish too,
It's not a bad movie per se, It's just it
is definitely probably one of the most unpleasant of the
Death Wish series.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
Saying something that is Yeah, okay, lads on them. Well,
with all that being said, are you gonna tell us
what's coming next week?

Speaker 4 (01:59:25):
Oh me?

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Life's of each month wraps up?

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Sure? Okay, well we are we have.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
I normally say we've saved the best for last, but
I mean, we've don't talked about a lot of great
movies this month, but we are talking about nineteen ninety
one's a mortal classic point Break on next week's show.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Point Break is a is a hell of a feature.

Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
Yes, we are going to be talking about point Break,
currently available on Paramount Plus, Fowesome, Plex, Pluto, Roku and
to be Nice. Yeah, so it's available available, so you
kids have homework and if you feel if you're feeling froggy,
check out riff tracks version of it. Because the riff
track version we saw in theaters a few months back.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
I'll kill a few months back how long it was
that at least two years?

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
So it wasn't. No, it wasn't it was like last year.
If you say so it was last year, I'll find out. Okay,
you find out, keep talking your shit, but yeah, no
point break nights in any one is what we're gonna
be covering as we wrap up lives of each month,
and we'll also be teasing August for what we are
picking on that. Obviously I've already said we're gonna be
doing nobody, but still figuring out theme for August if
there is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Going to be a theme, if there, if there will
even be one.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
But yes, that is what we're going to be talking
about as we wrap up life of each month on
the show.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
I'm having trouble finding out exactly when that show was.
I can tell you verbatim because I did it in
my letterboxed on it looks like it was. Actually it
was in twenty twenty four, August eighth and thirteen.

Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
Four.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Huh, all right, you win this round. I'll have to
yell about that. Okay, fine, but I guess all that's
left to say then is thank you guys for listening
to do you even movie? We do appreciate it. If
you enjoyed the show, make sure you're subscribed on your
favorite podcasting app or on YouTube if that's where you're
watching instead of just listening. And again, email us. Do

(02:01:10):
you have a movie pod at gmail dot com. We'd
love to hear from you, guys. And that's all I got.
That's all I got. What you want to be here?

Speaker 3 (02:01:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
Now you charge me every time you can get your
own beer, so I guess uh. In the end, we
will see you next. Nautical fraud nautical fraud

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