Crawl (2019) Alligators, Floods & Florida Terror

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The state of Florida is issued in category five hurricane warning.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Grab your loved ones and get to safety. Now let
me do you need to go? I'm not leaving you.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Here graded our Home in theaters July twelve.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
In a world where podcasts reign supreme, Two Friends Dare
to Ask?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Do You even?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Movie?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Spoiler alert, this kind of hit records, so I can
yell it.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Well, what else am I?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's called content? David? So wait?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Wait, yes, okay, So I took the cigars to waste
Land because I brought some cigars to me right and
didn't smoke any So I have my travel my little
travel thing that my sister got me travel yeah, travel case,
and I forgot to I forgot to put them back
into my uh, into my humidor when I got home.
So the next week I went to the lake this

(01:37):
past week and I was smoking on Saturday, and I
went to grab one of the CEO's because I had
a CEO with me and I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Reber the other two Brazilian Oh okay, Brazilian Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Took it out and cut. It seemed to cut fine,
but then when I cut it, it just started the
leaf just started peeling away and the rappers.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
So the case you have is it leather? Yeah? And
how long was how long were the cigars in.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
There I had put them? That's maybe I'm actually more
guilty than I think I am, because now that I
think about it, I probably had put them in their
own cigar lounge and hadn't changed them out before I
left for wasteland, So it could have been two weeks,
two or three weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
So yeah, for those who don't know, and why the
hell would you cigars? And so one of the great
things about about if you love cigars is that they can,
in theory keep indefinitely as long as you follow two
simple rules. You keep them well three if you kind

(02:43):
of so, You keep them out of the sun, yes,
and you keep them at roughly and I do mean
roughly roughly seventy degrees and seventy percent humidity.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Now I like to keep them at sixty five, but
usually if people say sixty five to seventy, yeah, well,
I mean in most humidifier packs keep them at sixty
nine or sixty five nights, So nice. But that allows
the cigars to not lose their natural oils, which helps
them taste better. Yeah, which allows them to age safely.
I've heard of people smoking cigars that have been in

(03:15):
humidorus for over twenty thirty forty years. I've heard of
people smoking Cubans that were imported into America before the embargo.
That's nineteen pre nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's a long time.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
So, and the flavors do change, and supposedly on stronger cigars,
they become more delicate and intricate. But that all being said,
I'm not remembering your your cigar case perfectly. Does it
have a decent seal on it?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, it's it's just like Jeff's. It's got the goes inside.
It goes inside basically the other one.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
So is it the case that's holding it plastic?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
No, No, I think it's I think they're both. They're
both leather. So why would you say leather seals? Well,
Hank point, But I mean seals in the aspect of
doesn't come apart.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Closes seal or not quite the same thing in this context.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
In this in this context, also this cigar chap made
special for our buddy Patrick who loves when we.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Have I know how much he enjoys a good stogy. Yes,
so this one's for you. This is a dom pep
been original blue. But no, yeah, so that's a really
long time.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, to leave them well in different temperatures too, because
think about it. It was cold at Wasteland and wait, did
you leave it in your car? Yeah? Well no, no, no, no, no,
not no, no no. It came inside with me when
I got home. It came inside.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Okay, so you never got left you ever got.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Left in the car. The only time I got left
in the car was the weekend of Wasteland. It was
in the back for how long? Yeah, the whole weekend
it was.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
It was that's what room did. Yeah it got too cold,
Yeah it got too cold.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now yeah, yeah, because I don't think I took them out,
because yeah, I didn't see a reason to take him out.
And that's my own fucking vault now I think about it.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Cold can really fuck him up, especially if they don't
have enough humidity, and then you try to smoke them
before they've been able to recover. Really, but even then,
fuck it can reckon what.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I hope my a cubans not fucked because that's also
in there.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think, where is that? That is the Cuban now
in your human or yeah, resting yes safely, Yes, and
has been. I would I if I were you, if
it was me, I would try not to touch it
or even look at it for at least a month
in the hope that it'll be open.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
They basically ALMOSTINGNA have birthday, so I can do that.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Oh, you're saving your Cubans for your birthday. It's been
a long time since we ordered any Cubans.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, that's like one. It's like the last. I think
I have two left. I think is I think that's
what I'm on right now, because I think that's the
last of the actual like nah, yeah, that's the last
of them. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah. And for people are thinking, hey you can if
Cubans grow up. First of all, there are an immense
amount of fake Cuban cigars in the world, Oh a lot.
But I have been lucky enough to find you can.
There are vendors that will sell them to in America. Yeah,
and it's not technically it's a crime for them to
be imported. Yeah, so if they get caught at the border,

(06:02):
they get sent back.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
But if they get through the border and then they're
in your house, they're good and legal because you can
go to Canada and buy Cuban cigars. You can even
go to Cuba and you're allowed to bring home one
hundred cigars without without any issue, as long as you're
bringing them home for you and not to sell them.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
There is a cop show that I would love to
find that was either on USA or WGN. I can't
remember which, but I remember distinctly a character taking a
cigar and breaking it and they had stuffed cocaine inside
the cigar.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
That's that's like, that's great, that's like that's like, uh,
you know, taking a like a machine gun and filling
it with heroin. They'll never find it. It's like they're
already searching on cigars.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
My life. I just remember that, and like, I don't
know if it was a serious show or if it
was a parody movie or what it was. I just
remember that that being a thing. They broke them apart,
and it was just like and then here's this. Okay,
it's okay. Anybody knows what that is, Please email into
the show. I would love to know what the hell
that is.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
The shunting for it for twenty years.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
So we're recording this Yes on tax day.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes we made it through. And I'm more so say
you made it through.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Sounded like a non bet.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Uh. I actually ended up doing getting through it better
than a lot of my other business small business friends.
A lot of my freelancer small business friends got raked
over the coals pretty bad. Yeah, sough. I I kind
of was lucky, even though I did not have a
good time.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
My parents are not looking forward to next year because
that's going to incorporate the retirement.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Oh you mean the buy out of their business. Uh
huh Yeah, that's no suck. That's gonna that's gonna blow
yeah a lot. Yeah, damn, that's gonna hurt.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well, on the plus side, not trying to play too
inside a baseball. But your dad's still planning opening that
small business. It's already open.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, not open, but he already has his logo and
everything made.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
What I'm saying is if he goes into business, then
he can have deductions from that at least that could
offset it. You know, once it's officially a thing, we'll
tell all the all the many listeners that are you know, hey,
go to Troy, Ohio. It's worth the drive from Sacramento
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Wherever you're listening from.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
But the reason I brought that up, yeah, aside from
because I'm angry and bitter constantly, is I My wallet
was weeping, you know, when I was done paying my taxes.
So I decided what better way to cure that than
to buy too many cigars? Absolutely, And you may ask

(08:49):
how many is too many? When I find out, I'll
tell you.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
He's never gonna counts. That's what I would like to
get across to our listeners and viewers. He has said
numerous times he will never count how many I refuse.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's not that I won't never will I refuse. I am.
I am sickened by the implication.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
What if somebody came into the house, put a gun
to your head and said, tell me how many cigars
you have, and went across to you and made you
count them.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I'd be like, tell me how many brains I have?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Let's go, let's also couch killing.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Better to live that way?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Fair enough?

Speaker 4 (09:24):
But no, no, I I my whole life. I am
a very very skilled finder of savings and deals. I'm
very good at it I always. I mean, I'm the
guy who I've been with friends when they'd be like, eh,
fuck it, I'm gonna buy this like computer or I'm

(09:46):
gonna buy this whatever, and I'll be like, hold on,
hold on, let me just type in promo code that
and I'll be like, here, this is ten percent off,
like what? And I'm like, always google things before you
buy them. Yeah, you just never know. So with cigars,
there a base like two places to go to get
very affordable, high end cigars. I'm not going to plug

(10:06):
them because they're not paying them and because most of
I don't think I don't know if any of the
listeners are cigar people, so I'm not like, so it
just wouldn't what would it do to tell them the
exact place. But one place is an auction place, and
one place is a store. And at the auction place,
it's it's horrible because you're you're buying overstock. And what

(10:26):
I mean by horrible is sometimes the prices are so
good it's like impossible to resist.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
You'll you'll find an auction for a five pack of
cigars and you can win the auction for what it
costs to buy two yeah, sometimes even one.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's a good deal when you get it.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I got twenty five Monte Cristo cafes by shopping studiously
and bidding aggressively. I ended up paying about a dollar
eighty five each and retailer ten dollars.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
So pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
But the problem with that place where you bid because
it's all overstocked. It's not like you're bidding from like
it's not like eBay where anybody is auctioning. But the
problem with that site is I'll win something and it's like, wow,
you got five of those for sixteen dollars. I'm like
hell yeah, and it's like, ah, but it's seven dollars shipping,
and I'm like, well, you know that sucks a little bit.
But then you're like, but if I won more before ship,
before it ships, then the shipping cost of everything goes

(11:24):
down because it only costs like a dollar to add
to the shipping.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
So the reason they're evil is because they'll be like, Wow,
you got a really good deal in those cigars. It'd
be a shame if you could just keep getting deals
until you've spent four times as much as you wanted to. Yeah,
I can feel that, and that's happened to me a
couple of times. Yeah, so I'm I'm I jokingly told Rachel,
I am at the I'm no longer in the bulking phase.

(11:49):
I'm out of bulking. I'm no longer carbo loading. Yeah,
I'm no longer cigargo loading. That's fair, but I yeah,
that was my my therapy for how mad I was
about my bill is. I was like, I'm going to
I'm going to allow myself to buy quite a few cigars,
really high end stuff. I'm also I'm becoming an old
man with them. There was a long period where I

(12:13):
said every cigar I get, or like, I would get
cigars and I'd be like, I just want tons of
different ones, like a million different cigars. And I do
love that. I do love trying a new cigar very
very much, absolutely, But recently I was like really stressed out,
and I'd go into my human door and I'd dig
around because there's so much random stuff I don't even
know what's in there, and I'd pull one out and

(12:33):
I'd spoken. Sometimes they'd be like, Wow, that's amazing. But
other times I'd spoken be like that was just fine.
I guess that was alright, like it didn't burned weird
or I don't know anything about it, so maybe it
was badly manufactured. And now I'm like, you know, I
think I just want to buy like boxes of like
the ten I love, and then have like twenty randoms.

(12:56):
I've got to a point now where I'm not saying
I just want a cigar. I'm saying like I want
a domp pep peen blue.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, I'll gladly come trick or treat here and take
some of those off your hand if you do you want.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
To, well, only if I run out of hand wipes,
because that's what I give big kids with no costume
named David. So anyway, yes, but no, no, my point
is not even to be about cigar talking. It's just
to say that that's been my my little treat. It
got a little out of hand, so I I really

(13:26):
do have to stop. I don't know if I told
you the the auction site. The reason I got back
on it was I needed some more sticks, and I
was like, oh, man, I should see if I get
them cheat. And then I was like, well, I promised
myself I wouldn't use that site for a while because
I was spending way too much money. Yeah, So I
went on the site and looked at my last order.
It was twenty twenty three, and this was two months ago,
twenty twenty five, So I was like, I did well
so but now, yeah, I better not get back on

(13:47):
there till maybe even twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Kind of be on Blu ray dot Com or even
Voodoo sometimes.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Although I did bid on some black market estelis, but
the price, it's just I'm almost out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
So hey, speaking of things we spent our money on.
Did your Beyond ship yet.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Supposed to be here Saturday at the latest time?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Bitch?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
What I love about it is it's shipping from Massachusetts,
spook speaking, but before we uh you uh. I've been
watching the remaining episodes of Stand Against Evil, Yeah, because
I only watched the first season. Yeah and a half.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I only watched the first season.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
So I love that show. Super funny. It's on shutter now.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's Johnson McGinley is so fucking funny.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
He's great in it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
But the only complaint I have with that show is
it's supposed to take place in Massachusetts. Yeah, and I
know they shot it in Georgia because they advertise it
at the end and everything, but they aren't even trying
to make it seem like Massachusett. What I mean is,
I mean they are like they're doing things, but I mean,
like the side characters are all super Southern, like they

(14:48):
just are. At one point, they're flashing back to something
and a guy walks in and he literally looks like
Colonel Sanders, like he is a style of Colonel Sanders,
and I was like, that's not Massachusetts homies. I'm trying
to be a no at all, but like the South
and New England are not that much alike in that way.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I enjoy the show, but I would kind of laugh
because they'd occasionally introduce a side character they all talk
like that. I'd be like, why is everybody who's random
at joke? I think that they just they're just like, yeah,
we're in Georgia, let's have fun. Although the last episode
I watched three three seasons ago, the last tisos I
watched that, the guy who did Trevor and GTA was
a character in it.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
He's I listened to him on a podcast, the podcast
list do a. Rosenbaum's Inside of You. He was a
guest on there, recently. He's a really fascinating guy. Loves farts.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I've heard that from you, but but no, Stand Against Evil,
super fun and it's it's so weird because the show
I think it ended in like twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. Yeah,
somewhere in that neighborhood. It feels like a like a
universal part.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Well, I mean SPINGOOLI Stomp. The cast was featured in
that video, all two of them. Two of them, yeah,
Dana Golden, John Dana Gould, who's the creator show it.
But my point is like it feels like a lifetime
ago because like it's a very TV TV show like
it it doesn't have that like the way TV is
now vibe of being feature length, well not but just

(16:14):
having like all arcs like it's twenty two minutes, which
when I made Boggy Creek the series, the episodes were
thirty minutes, and I remember when when I was editing
them and when even when I was shooting them. Yeah,
although shooting was different because we'd shoot scenes from like
a bunch of episodes in one day, but when we
were editing them, I'd be like it's over. It felt
like it had just gotten started and it was over

(16:35):
the same thing when we did found footage the series. Yeah,
although though those episodes were never intended for like broad broadcast,
so so like they could be thirty minutes whole as
to wear boggy. They had to be twenty two to
twenty four minutes hard stop because it was it was
shown in some broadcast markets.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
So but it was just weird. So when I watched
Stan against Eevile, I'm like, I'm enjoying it, but I'm like, damn,
it's already over, Like when the credits start. I'm always surprised, Yeah,
because I've come completely used to this movie version of television, Yeah,
which in many ways has ruined television. Not not for
the audience. Yeah, for the audience, television has become way better. Yeah,
but for the people who make television, it used to

(17:13):
be like, yep, we do fifty five episodes, we work
all year, and now it's like we do ten and
there's no residuals from advertising.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Like I remember, the first time that I realized the
difference between old TV and new TV is looking at
the listing of Batman season one episodes and how there's
like forty two of them.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yep. Well, they also used to I mean, when you
go that far back. Yeah, they also assumed that you
never watched all of them any in any constructive way.
Now they assumed maybe via reruns over the course of
sixty years, you would say you might see every episode, yeah,
but you would never just have a fully formed opinion

(17:50):
of the whole run because to them, they're like, oh, well,
sometimes people are busy on the same bat times in
that channel, like sometimes people go out to dinner or
go to the movies or or whatever. Meanwhile, you know,
fast forward, and now people are like, I'm gonna watch
the whole thing. And it is tough because I always
used to get frustrated when people would pick on sitcoms
because they tell the same story every week. It's like, yeah,

(18:14):
but you have to look at their situation. They're told
like twenty four a year, yeah, and don't be so
different that people stop watching.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. So, I mean it's like, I'm a huge bobs
Burgers fan and I've kind of fallen off the last
couple of years because they're they're repeating storylines, are doing
it creatively. They're not like, you know, straight of ripping
them off because they can't rip themselves off in that sense.
But it's just it's kind of like with the South,
not to howth Parkus Simpsons is like has even got
to a point.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
But that's I mean they've been on for what over
thirty years?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, over thirty years, and I mean Bob's Burger's is
on season sixteen now, I.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Mean that's crazy too though. Yeah, I sincerely did not
know Bob's Burgers was still.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
On these we No, I'm curious what season are they
on because.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
I know it's Dave's about to get serious.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh man, I feel so called out right now because
I just typed in Bob and it filled it in
Bob's Burger's Daytime Whiskey, because there's a there's an episode
where he gets into his whiskey because they they leave
on Thanksgiving and he's like daytime whiskey. Meet my CD collection.
That's me.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
See when you type in Bob into Google, it auto
fills Burgers whiskey or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
When I type in Bob, it says from thought. I
thought I could do it without laughing. Yeah, I give up.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I I.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Fifteen seasons, so yeah, I mean, I guess sixteen would
be if they come back.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
I was trying to say, but I wanted to say
it without laughing. Was I was saying? When I type
in Bob it auto fiels from Lucio ful cheese house
by the cemetery. Figure, that's where you were going. I
couldn't get it out, like I completely lost it. But
speaking of inability to get out, oh yes, yes, yes,

(19:55):
we just got back from the movie theater. We did, indeed,
or as I call it, the theatre or church, I
don't well, I do call a church. If I could
smoke cigars there, I just never leave.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Man, We've said that before.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (20:08):
The ventilation system in a good movie theater is excellent.
The ceilings are like twenty five feet high, the smoke
is not going to linger on anybody, and you can
laugh like Max, Katie, where's your family? Oh god, that's
great fun. Good good man, good Man, that good man.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Okay, But yes, we just got back from seeing Drop,
Blumhouse's new thriller. That was a lot of fun, dude.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Okay, So remember do you remember what I said when
the trailer first drop?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
You saw it before me and you. I was sitting
next to you in the theater and you said you
got to look at this. This is Blumhouse's new one.
And I just remember the scene in the trailer when
that window breaks. I was just like, I'm in already
like that, like I don't have to see.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Another awesome moment.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
So it's a thriller and I don't and I don't
think in this case the use of the term thriller
is to denounce horror movie.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It just done it.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
It just isn't a horror movie per se. It's it's
much more a mystery thriller. Yeah, and it's super hitchcocky.
And the moment they get to the restaurant, which, by
the way, what a location. Yeah, I mean it was
just it was a great location, like really interesting to
look at. All the characters around were great, which I
I because I remember when we got to the restaurant

(21:29):
and it was so like designed, so thought out the restaurant.
Oh my god. But my first thought when I saw
it is I was like, see, this is why we'll
be able to stay in here for almost the entire
movie is because it's interesting to look at in every angle,
every direction. It's a restaurant that has a view of
air quotes the Chicago Skyline apparently it was an Ireland apparently,

(21:53):
although that could have been green screen, I have no idea.
I mean, honestly, if it was, it looked incredibly convincing
because I didn't think it looked like anything else but
the basics of the movie. It's a straight up who
done it? Thriller kind of thing, And when I saw
the trailer, I was like, hell, yeah, another thriller, like
I love those. There was a great time right like
before COVID, when we were getting these Sony produced.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
In the InTru Was that the Intruder with like Dennis Quaid.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
That was actually later in it. I think that was
after COVID.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
That was before.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I mean it could be I'm talking about like the
Perfect Guy. Yeah, but there were a ton of movies.
I mean we had the perfect Guy. Was the Cradle
Will Fall? When the Bow Break? Yeah exactly. That was
what I was trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Undoubt Undoubtable, that one that had Catherine Heiglood. It was
like one of her last movies.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It was like Undeniable something like that. Was that the
one where it was like I'm not telling you, yeah,
to get a shot gun. That's the perfect guy. Oh,
that was the perfect guy, that guy. But my point
is most of them were geared toward black audiences, and
we're super fun because that's one thing that I enjoy. Like,
I know, I'm the guy who likes Tyler Perry movies.

(23:03):
I know, I'm the guy who likes whatever. But like
a lot of those, especially those black led thrillers where
the cast was mostly black and it was geared toward
a black audience. Yeah, they're just good because the goal
is to entertain and get that money, honey, because they
know that their core audience is not the entire country,
so they have to get good word of mouth, they
have to do all this stuff. They're just basically counting

(23:25):
on the core audience to bring the initial.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Macrimony is one of the best I thrillers.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Love acting promo.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
So many people have not seen, and I love act.
I mean, acrimony might be an episode because there's a
lot to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I would love to cover acrimony. That's that's a great
that's a Tyler Perry thriller. That's really really because I
never saw Nogadeed. You said it was okay, Yeah, that
was pretty good. And then there was the other one
that he did, like a couple of years ago, there
were a few he did for Netflix that were that
were like really corner cut, which I actually just found abusing.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's like even that one that Gabrielle Union did Breaking
In that was but you know, home Evasion thriller. You've
got information we want, We'll kill your kids if you
don't give it to us. Mom fights back.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, And like it's I've been saying on the show
for a while, it's like, not every movie has to
reinvent every wheel to get you to the fun you
want to have.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
If it's a simple story but executed so well with
really likable characters and genuinely a good build with the
suspense not just in getting to the final act, but
just keeping you enthralled the entire time. Sure that's the key.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, Well, I mean any movie needs to keep you enthralled. Yeah. Yeah,
So I was just so happy to see such a
just kind of relentlessly honest thriller. Yeah. It didn't try
to fool you into anything other than going like this
is gonna be a rid Yeah. So, for those who
don't know, Drop is about a young woman who goes
on a date for the first time in years after

(24:49):
some severe trauma traumatic relationship. Yeah. Yeah, and she's meeting
at this very fancy restaurant with this guy who's like
super handsome, almost too handsome. And that's one of my
favorite things about the movie. Is there a bunch of
red herrings. Yeah, and everybody is a little cartoony, which
makes you suspect they might be pretending. Like the like

(25:12):
the waiter is super flamboyant but also super show business.
He's always talking about like I'm in an improv troop
and bah bah bah, And you're like hmm, or like
the waitress or not the waitress, the bartender, yeah, who's
like really helpful and really vigilant to the point where
you're like, are you really on her side or is
something else going on? There's just all these great characters

(25:33):
that you're wondering. And of course the guy on you're
on a date with, because he's so charming and so
forgiving when she's.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Weird, so and mysterious.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
So basically this is what the trailer gives away, so
I'm not giving away too much. But so she's on
this day she starts getting drops on her phone, which
are not text messages, they're they're sent through your phone network. Yeah,
they're mostly known as air drops, but they made a
joke about it wasn't air drops in the movie, which
I thought was funny because that just means Apple wouldn't
pay them, so they were like, then we won't mention it.
But but so she gets these drops basically saying like

(26:02):
I have your son, and you know, do what I say.
And the trailer reveals that the one thing it demands
is kill your date.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Kill your boyfriend yeah, or kill yeah, killr day, kill
your date.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
So what we have is a movie literally about a
first date, which that alone causes so much anxiety. And
I realized halfway through. I was like, oh my god,
I'm squirming just because this is a first date. And
she's so distracted because she's trying to protect her son
and all this stuff and trying to figure out who
in the room is doing it because drops can't be
sent for more than fifty feet away fee so they

(26:32):
have to be in and.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
No stone is unturned. Like I'm not going to spoil anything,
but like, no stone is unturned, Like they go through
every single option it is to figure this out, and
you even follow her, like trying to even look at
the cameras multiple times and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, she's trying to figure it out, escape, et cetera,
et cetera, and it just doesn't work out. You know,
she ends up trying to figure out what's to do
and blah blah blah. Great taught, simple thriller. I heard
you say some people were comparing it to Wes Cregen's
Red Eye. I think that that literally now. But Red
Eye and This are a perfect example of a of

(27:07):
a simplistic but strong thriller.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
This and this Red Eye phone Booth. Mm, phone Booth's
really good.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Well, phone Booth is phenomenal. No, no, no, that's not
my point. My point is do I want what I
would I put it in that threesome? Would I? I
don't know if I would. Well hold on, because because
Red Eye, Red Eye and Drop are also about two
women who are very eating, who are very very They're

(27:37):
not like you know, roll your eyes strong women. There.
They're really great characters and you want to see them
outsmart the bad guys.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
And there is the romantic thing there. And I think
you're forgetting the part where Colin Farrell is like, keep
so other, No you hang up.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Okay, that's fucking funny. That took me a second for
a second, for a second, for a second. When you
said Colin Farrell, I thought you would just said the
wrong act name from Red Eye.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
But then when he said you hang up you, I
was like, all right, all right, No, that's that's one
booth joke. Yeah, for the one and a half of you.
So no, that's really good. But no, so drop I
thought was super fun. Yeah, super enthralling, great way to
spend ninety minutes at the movie theater. Doing well at
the box office, I was shocked to see eleven thousand

(28:23):
dollars or eleven million dollar budget did ten million in
an opening weekend, which means it's pretty much going to
be a hit. Yeah, it's a Blumhouse production, but I
believe Platinum Dunes was involved in.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Direct and same director as Happy Death Day and Freaky
and I mean the list goes on and on with
Christopher Landon.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, and which I didn't realize until the day of
and a great director because I know he just announced
Happy Death Day three was going to be happening, and
I'm down to see them wrap that up.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
No, it's it's a really fun movie. We highly recommend Drop,
and it is only ninety five minutes, but you won't
even feel it.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Well. I remember at one point telling you that the
reason I think like that movie nailed being on a
date going wrong was that it was like the longest
ninety minutes of my life once they were, because it's
just a lot, because you know, she's look at her
phone and looking all shocked, and it's like, tell him
what I'm saying and I'll kill your son. Yeah, so
she has to just sit down and go no, I'm fine.
You're like, oh my god, this is so stressful. So

(29:18):
I really had a great time with it, so much fun.
I couldn't recommend Drop enough if you like movies. And
the other great thing about thrillers is about like thrillers
like these and not like the cop out thrillers, like
saying Exorcist is a thriller or Silence of the Lambs
is a thriller, just so you can, you know, be
accepted at the oscars. Yeah. But the great thing about

(29:39):
thriller is like these is they're highly accessible. You could
take your mom to see Drop. Excuse me, you could
take your mom to see Drop. You could take anybody
who likes movies to see drop and there's some sensitive
stuff in it, but like if you're that sensitive to
those things, you probably avoid going to the movies.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, it probably wouldn't be the best idea.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
It is tough because I always hear people say like, well,
some people are just sensitive where I'm like like to
plot because like if the movie is just like they
go to the store and then they come back and
they make a ham sandwich and then they cut it
diagonally and watch a movie and then in the credits roll,
that's called voyeurism. That's not a movie. Yeah, it's like
it's just like look into your neighbor's window, no pants on?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Sorry. I got the strec of their Apple TV as
a new show called Your Friends and Neighbors, and I
was just checking to see if it was based off
of the movie, and it's not.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
No, it's not. Oh but speaking of Apple TV, I
started watching The Studio with Seth Rogan, so nice to
see him being funny again. It's really really funny. He
plays a young guy who will young issues, probably forty
at that point forty five, who becomes a studio head
after working at a movie studio for a really long time.
And the episodes are just like him encountering the problems

(30:46):
and messing it up. And every episode he looks more
and more like an out of touch studio executive. No,
like his hair gets messier, his glasses get bigger, he
starts driving a sports car, and the cameos are constant.
They had like one of my favorites was do you
know you know Sarah Poly's right, the actress and director. Yep,
there's one where he's like, we're doing this prestige picture.

(31:07):
It's small budget but it's incredible, and it's they're doing
this big wonner and when he gets there, Sarah Pouly's
just the director. I was like, I love her ever
since Take this Waltz. I think she's a genius. Yeah.
So it's really really fun, but there are all these things,
like at one point he like screws over Martin Scorsese
and it was one of the funniest things I've ever
seen in a show or anything, because he's like he's like,
he tells Martin this bad news. He's like, I don't

(31:28):
know what else to tell you. I'm really sorry, and
then he just starts like puts his hand and says,
like my God is Mark course is he crying? And
it's like, we gotta get out of here. And then
everybody in the rooms like Marty, what's wrong and they're
all like checking on him. And it's Charlie Throne's party. Yeah,
so he's like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. Like
so Charlie's goes over and talks to him, and it
looks over and he's like, hey, Charlie's She's like, get
the fuck out of my party and never come back.

(31:49):
He's like, I got it, I got it. Just like
it's all right, it's really really funny. It's not even complete.
So I binged it and now I'm having to wait
every week to watch it, which is painful. But there's
so much interesting stuff I'm waiting on. Like the final
season of The Righteous Gemstones has been incredible.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I've watched the first episode and then I just wanted
to save all of it. Honestly, I just wanted to
binge it.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
That first episode was the one where the Civil War.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Was civil War, Well, that's the prologue. The first episode
of the Jet Packs.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
It's not in well that's what they call all of
the past episode called internew one, two, three, four, five. Yeah,
well the last this week's one was another interlude, different
time period, but it was really really good. Oh and
they introduce, oh, well, since you're not watching this one's
PlayN I think Michael Rooker has entered the chat. He's
in the cast. He just joins, I don't know what
he's gonna do, because they just established a character he plays.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
You said, Michael Keaton, I would have left the show
and we that would have gone watched.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
You would have just went into my living room and
opened up my Max app. So anyway, that's the stuff
I've been watching. I have been watching a lot of
movies because I've been very busy. But I've been trying
to watch some TV shows and stuff and trying to
go to the theater whenever I can. And by the
time you hear this, it'll already be over. But I
just like, at the last minute, I'm going to the

(33:03):
Columbus Oddities and Curiosities Fair. Yeah, so I'm like, Okay,
that's awesome, except there goes a Friday, Saturday and most
of a Sunday. It's okay, so good, But you know,
I mean, I'm missing Easter this year, but at least
I did do Sator not Jewish, so I don't know
if it counts, but like, you did the thing what
I said, You did the thing. I did the thing

(33:24):
I ate I I By the way, kids, either there
are two ways this can go. You're either you either
need me at your Passover dinner or you should never
invite me because I will eat all the matsa.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, that sounds like you.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
I actually love playing Matza. Now, part of it you've
never been to a Sator dinner, I'm assuming part of
it is it takes forever it gets the food, so
for real, like it takes like an hour and a half,
two hours of talking before you really get to eat much.
So when they hand me that passover, it really it's
like mana from heaven to me. I'm just like, oh
my god, I'm so hungry because we started dinner time.

(34:01):
But it was really funny because the lady next to
me actually just picked up a pizza manza and started
snacking on it before the thing, and I just turned
to him and I was like, how many years through
the desert did you walk to get that?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Oh my god, It's great.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I'm the cop on Passover, not even not even a
member of the Tribe and here I am. So it's
really just because I like to frustrate people. That sounds
about right, goddamn right, it is so anyway, Well, I actually,
if you don't mind, David, yes, sir, Because I am
such a big fan, I kind of wanted to give
a little the intro of the film because I really
when I saw this movie, I remember being just blown

(34:35):
away and being like, goddamn, how great great characters, great action.
So today we're talking about nineteen eighty threes Krawl starring
starring Ken Marshall and Freddy Joh. I'll just getting used
because I know for a fact that the more we
talk about this movie, the more we're gonna actually it's

(34:57):
gonna sound like we're saying that Crawl.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well, there's also like three horror films called crawl. Because
there's this one. There's one that would you I would, Yeah,
I would.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
I mean, it's pretty violent, it's it.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, it's in that it's in that same cannon as
Oh god, what's that movie The Shallows?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Wow? I was blaming there the Shallows.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, And I think the Shallows, even though it's kind
of more of a thriller than a horror movie. It's
a straight up horror movie compared in the sense of
what she's going through.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
No, I would say that, yeah, well yeah, that's I
think that. Literally, if you want to consider something a
horror movie, look two horrific moments. Yeah, Like if you
only get one, yeah, then it's probably more likely to
be a thriller. Yeah, but if it's if it's a
constant occurrence keeping you on your toes, it's much more
likely to be a horror.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, it's like it's there's a there's a tough balance
with creature feedures because like Jurassic Park and Jaws are
lopped in with action for the most part, whenever you
go to fantasy store and fantasy yeah and stuff like that,
whereas like Alligator is at on the horror aisle. I
mean it is more of horror film now think about it.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Is like, if it
were just like excuse me, uh, monster like monsters grabbing
people and pulling them off or whatever, Yeah, it could
possibly just be a thriller. But when you're seeing people
getting chomped proper, which, by the way, best review of
Crawl ever. People get chomped proper properly, but with a
movie like that. And of course it's directed by Alexandra Aja,
which we'll talk about a second, but it's I think

(36:23):
it's horrific enough to be a straight up monster and
it's a monster movie of sorts too. Yeah, but it's
definitely a phenomenal, phenomenally phenomenally phenomenally suspenseful horror film.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Absolutely no. No, it brings in an element of not
only the natural disaster, but like as was with Hard Rain,
we had natural disaster and robbers.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, natural disaster and crime.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah. Now this is natural disaster and hungry gators, hungry
hungry gator, lots of hungry games.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
And I want to mention, by the way, in case
you haven't had a chance to check it out and
you'd like to watch it before we go through the
whole thing. Uh, Pluto TV as streaming for free, and
then you could rent it on Prime and probably anywhere
you rent.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Me and it did recently get a four K transfer
betweens you can rent the four K as well, so
if you will.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I actually I bought the four K because I was
gonna use your account, but I was like, huh, I'm
gonna check the place I use again. I'm not gonna
plug these places.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yay.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
The place I used to buy digital codes on discount. Yeah,
I got a four ninety nine four K.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's pretty nice.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
So I was like, I'll watch it and I'll pay
the five bucks. And that's to own, not to rent. Yeah,
So I was like, I'll do that. Hell yeah, So
I know I'm a Namby Pamby. I like to pay
for my movies, but I don't like to pay a
lot that's fair. That's the damn difference.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
So crawl from twenty nineteen one hour in twenty seven minutes,
rted R what for bloody creature, violence and brief language?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
They do briefly use language?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Do you briefly use language? I MV synopsis says, gigantic
alligators swarm around a young woman and her father as
floodwaters engulf their home.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
My only problem gigantic alligators makes it sound like they're
something unusual about them. I would say huge alligator. That's
a just a that's a that's a nitpick. But I
would say huge alligators because they're just really big.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
They're not like unbelievably big, and say huge alligators. Okay,
I'll keep that in mind. I knew it.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
I'm teaching you how to like pull the wool over
my eyes.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
My synopsis says, when trying to check on her father
during a hurricane, a young woman comes face to face
with several huge alligators, leading to a fight for survival.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Fucking perfect. It's goddamn perfect. Kids, that's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Now, if you're ready for some fun. We got some
taglines this week.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Oh I am very curious.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
They were here first.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Not that thing. Do you ever think about that? How
alligators like have it barely changed in like a million years? Yeah,
versusly like look at you when you were twenty three,
I mean, completely fucking different. And thank god, thank god.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
This one. I think this is on you remember the
poster that has the alligator sign and then you like
see the alligator in the water by it, like one
of the first posts. I think this is that poster
because it says danger alligators are common in this area.
They can be dangerous. They have been known to stalk prey.
They will hunt you.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
I like that because it's but it's yeah, it's it
reads a little silly.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, if the storm doesn't get you, they will.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Well that's a great time.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
That's almost too good that it's it almost like loses
the efficacy because it's so effective because it's like that
sounds like a title for Jaws, you know, like it's
almost too classic swim like, hell, I love that. Yeah, No,
that's that's a really good one, especially especially because the
movie is called Crawl but then it's swim like. But

(39:37):
it helps you, it helps you pick up on that
it's a storm movie. Yeah, in case you're only you're
looking at the poster. It like make sure you understand
what's going on. Granted the poster makes it very clear
it's in the middle of a hurricane.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
It does. Indeed, and last Watch Your Back, I mean.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Finn like fair enough. Yeah, yeah, they're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
So director on the film is Alexander Aja gets his
start in nineteen ninety nine, director and writer on Furia
then goes on to shoot two thousand and threes Hot
and or High.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Tension, which was which took everything everything.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I remember when High Tension came out first, it was
advertised everywhere for one and it was so extreme French horror,
like hitting the market like right around the time of
like Martyrs and and what's the one I'm trying to
think of. That's the Nazis. I think it's like, is
it borders or I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I don't remember that one.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I can't remember. Yeah, I've seen it a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I always considered Hot Tension to be the beginning of
the French extreme era, which which ran pretty pretty hard
from like two thousand and three, two thousand and two,
two thousand and three until like nine, yeah, twenty ten era.
I mean, because we got some incredible stuff and not
all of them were, you know, French, they were just
kind of French produced, French directors like P two Frontiers. Yeah, yeah,

(40:56):
I thought about Frontiers Frontiers Everugh, that's a but well
as opposed to Hot Tension as walking the guy walking
on Yeah, let's tie let's team that up with you know,
fucking fraggle Rock.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Oh my god, I got it.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I got an email earlier from somebody, uh from our
buddy wolf Dan, just laughing his butt off about about
your combining the two combining Uh what was it you
combined fire in the sky with that? Oh yeah, explorers, Explorers. Yeah,
he just thought that was hilarious. He was like, I
think he was like, I don't know what's my favorite
the reaction of you going are you messing with me?
Or Dave doubling down? Yeah, both really good and I

(41:30):
was like, that's a conversation with Dave.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
So as far as director and writer, he also goes
to do two thousand and six A's remake of The
Hills Have Eyes, follows that up with Mirrors, which everyone
forgot about. Mirrors with Hey for Sutherland and uh, I
can't remember her name, but it's it was famous for
that trailer that had the woman taking like she was
looking in the mirror and she takes her jaw and
just basically rips it off her face.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Oh I never saw that poster.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, it was a It wasn't a bad movie. Uh,
pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
It's everybody forgot it.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
But it was a hit, wasn't I got a directory
of a video sequel.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, Alexandra Aja, Yeah. Twenty thousand and eight, Key for Sutherland. Yeah,
budget thirty five million, box office seventy eight.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
So for a for a movie that size in that
time period, I would say it's likely a hit.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I don't think it's even off Blu Ray and probably
hasn't been pressed in a while too, And I'll be.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Honest, apparently it's a remake of a South Korean horror
movie that makes of the mirror that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Actually two thousand and nine is The Eccreer, which he
is director, or e Seker File, which he's director and
writer on. He also directed Piranha three D and twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I always forget that he did that because it was
so out of character for him, but really great.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Yeah Horns in twenty thirteen, Oh yeah, the Ninth Life
of Louis Drass in twenty sixteen, then directs Crawl in
twenty nineteen, Oxygen twenty twenty one, Never Let Go in
twenty twenty four. Oh okay, But writer on P Two
in two thousand and seven and Maniac Remake in twenty twelve.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I didn't realize he wrote on Maniac, Yeah remake, that's
a good way. I need to revisit that.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
It's it's good. I actually got to see the premiere
of that, and I did not know it was a
found footage or not found footage poov. Yeah, and I
remember sitting down and just being like, this is gonna
be so fucked up, like not like the first maniact,
wasn't you were like, ah, but this.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
One's got Elijah Wood was so much more fucked up.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Bro. Writers on the film are Michael and Sean Rossmussen.
They get their start in two thousand and five, writing
Long Distance The Ward John Carpenter's Award in twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I you know, I've never seen the Ward.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's not bad.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
I mean, I've heard it's not great, but not great.
I've just never gotten around.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
It got shadowed really hard because it has a lot
in common with Shutter Island. Oh okay, so that's one
thing I will say that I do recall. It's been
a lo awesome seen it though. I remember fortunately, I
remember burning that one on DVD.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Wow, you hated it so much you set it on
fire and effigy.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Dark Feet in twenty thirteen,
which they also direct, The Inhabitants in twenty fifteen, Crawl
in twenty nineteen, and most recently The Unheard in twenty
twenty three, which they also direct.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Unheard. Yeah, I don't remember that one.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
That one I did. I'm not seen, but I knew.
I knew it had came out, but I think I
had like, come across it on a streaming service. I
want to say unheard, the unheard, Yes, unheard. In twenty
twenty three, I don't not finding it weird. Cinematographer on
the film is Maxima. Alexandra gets the Start in two
thousand and three with High Tension, follows it up with

(44:19):
Shooting the Defender in two thousand and four, He'll SAB's
remake two thousand and six, The Last Drop two thousand
and six, Catacombs in two thousand and seven, P Two
in two thousand and seven, Mirrors in two thousand and eight,
Holy Money two thousand and nine, The Craziest Remake, The
End Maniac remake, Silent Hill Revelation in twenty twelve. The
Voices in twenty fourteen follows it up. Yeah, that one,

(44:40):
that one, all right, follows it up to Earth to Echo,
followed by the Other Side of the Door in twenty sixteen,
which I did you see that one? Because I feel
like you might have saw that and I missed it.
I mean that was back a while, which was I'm sorry,
the Other Side of the Door, which was that like
tribal Spirit one that had the really weird poster familiar. Yeah,
it was around that time that you and I were

(45:00):
going to the movie.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
On, tell me, tell me, tell me the other side
of the door.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I'm just checking it real quick. Did I see this?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Uh ring any bells? Maybe I feel like you did,
but I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Oh I did I read because the actress in it
was on a TV show okay at that time. Her
name's escaping me, Sarah Wayne Cally's Okay. What was she
in that? I knew she was in something like really popular.
Oh she was the wife of Rick Grimes in The
Walking Dead, Looking Dad. Okay, yeah, yeah, I did see
that when it came out. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Then go shoot Annabel Creation in twenty seventeen, The Domestics
in twenty eighteen, The Nun in twenty eighteen, Shizam twenty nineteen,
Crawl twenty nineteen follows it up a countdown, which is
one I know we watched or either saw in theaters.
Oh I like the phone mo yeah that phone app
twenty nineteen, Haunting a Blind Manner six episodes in twenty twenty,
Come Play twenty twenty, Oxygen twenty twenty one, The Girl

(45:59):
in the Woods, Resident Evil, Welcome to Raccoon City in
twenty twenty one, Cello twenty twenty three role played Dear Paris,
and most recently Let Go in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Oh oh uh. By the way, The Unheard Yeah is
a Shutter original.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
That's where I've seen it.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Okay, it's on Shutter and it's from the same director
who did The Beach House, which we both really liked.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Was that a weird love craftying one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Moving down to our cast, we have kayas Goodolero, who
plays Hayley in the film, gets her start in two
thousand and nine in Moon, follows it of the Clash
of the Titans in twenty ten, Wuthering Heights twenty eleven,
Truelove twenty twelve, Now Is Good twenty twelve, Spike Island,
Skins remake, South Cliff Walking Stories, The Maize Runner, Tiger

(46:38):
House in twenty fifteen. Have you seen Tiger House? By
the way, No, do you remember the movie that Anchor
Bay put out probably around the same time, called The
Aggression Scale about those guys that break into that house
and that kid. Oh yeah, Tiger House is the exact
same thing with the little girl it's almost like Becky
before Becky. Oh, and it's really good.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Well, I wanted to give you props because you said
her name very well, I did, I thought, so, kayask
Lil Yeah, you said it like, you said it so
effortlessly that I was like, did he say it right?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Fair enough? So Tiger House in twenty fifteen, May's runner
to the Scorts Trials in twenty fifteen, parts of the
Caribbean Dead Mentel Not Tales in twenty seventeen, May's runner
The Death Care, Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile in
twenty nineteen, same year as Crawl, then does Spinning Out
The Pale Horse, Resident Evil, Welcome to Raccoon City, The
King's Daughter, Don't make me go. This is Christmas the Gentleman,

(47:28):
not that one. It's a TV series twenty four and
Senna in twenty twenty four, which is also a TV series.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
I really I kind of liked that Raccoon City Evil.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
That's fun. I mean, they combined like four games into
one movie and did it. Did it well As far
as I.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Was fun, I thought I was never a Resident Evil
game player or movie. No, I'm attic. Yeah, I thought
it was fine. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I want to revisit the Silent Hill movie, both of them,
even though I know the second one is notoriously bad. Mmmm,
but I want to revisit it.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
You know, I've been to the real Silent Hill, Centralia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, impressive, yes,
but not for the reasons you're hoping. Like you're hoping
what you're hoping for when you go to Centralia. And
I also went before they like they they put a
fence up to keep you out of the abandoned section
of highway, which was the best part where everybody writes, right,

(48:20):
an insane amount of graffiti. Yeah, no inch uncovered in
your feet. But I really it was a cool trip.
But like, you're not gonna get smoke billowing out of
cracks in the earth or even a smell or whatever
it is. For those who do know, Centralia is the
is the town on fire? Yeah, the coal mine caught
on fire and it's been burning for god knows how

(48:41):
many years, forty years, fifty years.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Same plot of nothing but trouble.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
I mean that was based on well, that was based
on Pa a lot. Yeah, in fact, did it take
place in PA? Because I know that the dan Ackroyd
that happened to him in PA and he got when
they were in the middle night, you got a speeding
ticket and he was like, oh, take Like nope, you
got to see the judge. And it was like one
in the morning and they woke up the judge. He
saw him in his house yep, and he was like,
what is this place? But that was in Pennsylvania. I

(49:05):
know that much, so I'm not surprised he went with
the Centralia thing. Also, Acroyd's weird, so he knows about Centralia.
But it was a really interesting thing. But I will
tell you that the cool thing last point about Centralia
when I went with my buddy Michelle is we didn't
know where to go. I mean, we just went to
Centralia and parked the car. We found a cemetery. So

(49:25):
we're walking around the cemetery a little bit and then
I went down a little like little ditch and up
the up the ditch like up a hill. And when
I got to the top of the hill, all of
a sudden just rose in front of me this giant
stretch of highway that's like surrounded by trees. It doesn't
connect to any roads anymore. Yeah, because what happened was
when the earth was shifting. It had broken the highway
up a bunch of I forget which state route it was,

(49:47):
but it had broken up, so they moved the state
route over. So there's a section of almost a mile
of state route just in the middle of the bush.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
God, and it is like broken and all crazy looking,
and I just remember going like, oh my god, because
I'd just never seen anything.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Probably like that.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Yeah, it was pretty cool. I mean, you'd go on
YouTube and see it all now see what I did that.
It was like ten years ago, and it was like
not everybody can have a drone yet and stuff, So
there weren't a bunch of things of it, but it
was really interesting. We drove around. The thing that was
most interesting about Centralia was that people still live there
because the government was making was buying out people's homes
to get them out, and some people were just like

(50:25):
fuck you. So there are houses that we saw that
were duplexes and half the house is gone so it's
being held up with buttresses. Wow, because they would demolish
the house of the people who left. Yeah, but the
people who are like, I'm not leaving that half of
the house has to stay standing. Yep. If you ever
get a chance, read the Wikipedia so you could hear
all the people of Centralia just tell the government to
like suck their pep a bunch.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Of that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I bet that's amazing. Moving through our cast, we also
have Barry Pepper, who plays Dave in the movie Get
to Start in nineteen ninety two and a Killer among
Friends goes on to be in Mantis in four, Neon Ryder,
Highlander the series in ninety five, Sliders the series in
ninety five.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
I like Sliders.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Sliders is fun the first time. So I'm gonna tell
you this and you'll you'll either laugh or you'll be
sad like I was the first time I wrote this,
which is Lonesome Dove the series. It came out Lonesome
Dave the Series, and I was like, no one would
watch that.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
I would, but only for Shadenfreya, loadsome Dave.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Lonesome Dave the series, Urban Safari in ninety five, the
Outer Limits remake in ninety six, The Sentinel series, Titanic
mini series, Dead Silence in ninety seven, Firestorm in ninety eight.
I need to show you Firestorm.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I'm down.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Howie Long is basically doing Do you remember that movie?
It was Howie Mandel Oh, No, it's how Long? Do
you remember that movie? Those Who Want Me Dead? With
Angela and Joelie about like the Fire on the Mountain
and the Terrorice, same thing with how He Long? Oh,
and if I remember correctly you have I think it's
William Forsyth. And who else is it? I want to
say it's Lance Hendrickson or like the Batties Nice. It's

(52:03):
a surprisingly fun movie. So Firestorm in ninety eight, Save
in Private Ryan in ninety eight, Enemy at the Gates
or Enemy of the State in ninety eight, The Green
Mile in ninety nine, so he's just got a slew
of right there. Then Battlefield Earth in two thousand. It's
a movie.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I mean, I'm sure the check cleared.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Sixty one in two thousand and one, Knock Around Guys
in two thousand and one, We were Soldiers in two
thousand and two, Twenty fifth Hour, the Dale Earnhardt Story,
Ripley Underground, which apparently there's a third mister Ripley movie,
because you've got the incredible or the talented mister Ripley.
Ripley's Game with John Malcovich and then Ripley Underground in
two thousand and five, where Barry Pepper plays Tom Ripley.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I will be one hundred with Yeah. I didn't even
know there was a second one.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
You didn't know Ripley's Game. John Malcovich plays Ripley and
it's actually really good.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Wow. I just feel like, can he really after Sigourney Weaver?
How did he that? Really? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Riley, I got one riple Yeah, only won Ripley. My apologies.
Then Flags of Our Fathers two thousand and six, unknown,
said Pounds, Casino Jack, True Grit remake, The Kennedy's Broken
City Snitch, the Lone Ranger movie in twenty thirteen, Kill
the Messenger, May's Runner Scorch Trials Monster Trucks in twenty sixteen,
and I would like to give a defense for Monster Trucks.
It was a kid's movie that came out in twenty

(53:14):
sixteen about the monsters inside the cars. Super fun. It
It kind of got shit on a little bit and
it was a lot of fun. So the actul might
come to the show. That's a really fun one. May's
Runner Death Care twenty eighteen, Crawl in twenty nineteen, The
Painted Bird Running with The Devil Awake, Creed three in
twenty twenty three, and most recently Lawman Bass Reeves in
twenty twenty three. Okay, hell and wrapping up our cast

(53:37):
is Morphid Clark, who plays Beth in the film She
gets her Start in twenty fourteen, New Worlds, a poet
in New York, Madame Bovary, Arthur and George Pride Prejudice
in Zombies in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I wanted that to be just Bitchin twenty sixteen, I
just didn't dig it like I hoped he would.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Killed the rest of it, because we were supposed to
get like, what is it a sense and sensibility and
sea monsters like they were gonna do.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I didn't know about movie adaptations of a couple other ones. Yeah,
because I know there were books, yeah originally.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, and I read and I read it, and I
mean I kind of knew that it had a little
bit more in it, but yeah, I just it really
just the zombies just felt really tacked on in the movie,
even more so Weird Love and Friendship in twenty sixteen,
Prevailing Wins twenty sixteen Interlude in Prague, The Man who
Invented Christmas in twenty seventeen. Have you seen that, by
the way, Yeah, okay, that was like, is a bunch

(54:24):
of a Christmas lover as you are? That movie's really fun.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Love that movie.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
The alien is Patrick Melrose Crawl in twenty nineteen. Saint
Maud in twenty nineteen. The sister in the movie is
Saint Maud by the way, no, shoot, the one on
the phone with the baby. Yeah, yeah, that's Saint Maud. Shit,
the Eternal Beauty, His Dark Materials, Dracula Steve Aker, Murder
is Easy in twenty twenty three, and most recently, she
is still on Lord of the Rings. The Rings of Power.

(54:47):
The main character has eighteen episodes under her name.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Oh oh yeah, that is her. Yeah, that is Yeah,
that's totally her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
So our first time watching this, I remember they they
pummeled us with trailers, not just in the theater but
on TV. I remember the that shot of the alligator
in the shower, like circling constantly, like when this was
getting ready to come out. So, I mean we were
gonna be there no matter what. Yeah, and I mean
it was it was exactly what we wanted and it
was a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I had a blast with it. I remember, and I
had as I was revisiting it, because I'd revisited it
a couple other times too. Em showed it to Rachel
and showed it a couple of people. But watching it
with the surround sound because all the storm sounds and
the rain sounds, and and that's the thing with stereo
that it's easy to not realize. Is like if I

(55:35):
take a microphone and I record the sound of rain,
and then I take a microphone and I record the
sound of rain somewhere else. Yeah, like in the same
space somewhere else, and then I put one on the
left side and one on the right side. It may
not sound different, but it is, and you're and you
feel surrounded. Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's one sound,

(55:56):
and it feels like multiple. So now you do five
point one channel and the rain was just all around,
the thunder would jump around.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
The speakers still cannot shake off. When you put on
the Halloween four K and it was the scene where
they go to get Michael from Smith Grove.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Yeah, the Dolby atmost box on that was ridiculous. I
can't speak to how accurate to the original that at moostpixes,
but holy crass shaking my living room with the Subwolfer.
But it took me back to the theater very much,
because I remember in the theater that sound mix just
rumbling us real good, and I really had a blast

(56:31):
with it. I remember when it was over, I was
just like, hell, yeah, hell.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Well that I remember. I think we read a story
that like they were doing forty screenings of Crawl and
I was like, that sounds like hell.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Just putting alligators in there. God, but they're all well fed,
so they're just pooping everything.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Oh, you paid for it. Here's the experience.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
There you go, kids, four d Hey, that says four
and de It's different, but it feel.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Like it's an alligator.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
He is an alligator. I uh, I think I think
I tied its mouth shut. I can't remember. I've been
a long day. It's only seven am. I've been up
for six.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
So we open in Krawl with meeting Haley Keller and
she is at the University of Florida. She's a professional
or a professional athlete.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Not professional. She's a college college athlete. Yeah, she's a
college swimmer.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Swimmer, yeah, and she's doing laps and everything and this
she basically gets beat by the opponent, and that's kind
of what starts her.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Yeah, she starts off. We we get we It's a
great way to start the film because we see she's
really good and then we see her get beat and
then we kind of get to see that she's doubting herself.
And that's kind of my I mean, there's a lot
to like about this movie, but her character and then
the way her and her father work.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Well, the intercompany works with her and her father where
it's just like, you know, don't cry, like, don't cry.
You know this is you know, every no matter what
you do, don't ever let him see you cry. Like
you know, you're gonna get better. It's gonna work out.
I love Barry Pepper and this for one, oh so
the perfect choice. And and their relationship works really well.
The speech she gives her is really great. Yeah, and
about about her. It's not even no speech about like,

(58:12):
it's about how he saw what she how talented she was.
The motivation for her is her and I love that.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's good as ship. Yeah it is.
And that's that's what makes the movie so strong. And
I love I love the idea, like she's trying to
get in the Olympics is what is what's going on here?
So she's trying her best and we see her fail.
And I think that's a really valuable thing because we
we get too obsessed as a culture with stories about

(58:37):
characters that have too few flaws, yeah, or worse yet,
their flaws are they're like they're too good, or they're
they're too dedicated, they're too value virtuous.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It's almost like it's their it's their personality and they
can't shake it. But that also makes the character unbearable sometimes.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
Yeah, it's like in reality, the flaws you're boring. Yeah,
But but with her seeing her lose tells us that
she has room to grow and room to improve and
that she could be good enough. Yeah, which is really
important in a survival horror to establish something like that.
But then after she gets out of the pool, she
gets a video call from her sister who's like, are

(59:14):
you out of there? She's like, what are you talking about?
She's like the hurricane and she's like, it's supposed to
pass them, and she's like, you haven't been looking at
your phone. It's not passing us anymore. It's coming right
for us. Actually, they're evacuating Category five, Yeah, which is
I think is that the strong highest, So that's.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
The highest end, that is the most dangerous. So yeah,
they are evacuating the area. And naturally, Haley gets the
words from Beth that she has no one get a
hold of their dad. And we also got to get
a sense right then in there that her and dad
aren't heard. Haley and her dad aren't talking much.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Yeah, they it seems like he's become kind of reclusive. Yeah,
and which would make you even more worried. Yeah, when
he's not answering his phone. But he's supposed to evacuate,
and doesn't she make a reference like the oh wait, no,
it's later she's like, the dog is here, So he's not.
He's evacuated.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
So Beth begs her Haley to go see her in
and she's like, okay, you know, I'll go out there
and make sure he's okay. So she drives out, gets
to a road and that's when she runs into an
old buddy, Wayne, who is one of the cops in
the town, and he's basically like, hey, I can't let
you through, like oh, but also tell your sister, I said, Hi,
but yeah, it's too dangerous, but you know, just you
to turn back. And as she's getting ready to turn around,

(01:00:18):
she just basically decides fuck it and goes into town
because she wants to check on her dad. She knows
the danger and she even tells that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
So I want to mention that the so a category
five hurricane. It's the highest category of hurricane on the
Sapphire Sephir Simpson scale. They cause complete roof damage on
most residences, industrial buildings, they can cause complete building failures,
blow away entirely utility structures, and generally speaking, the wind

(01:00:49):
speed on a category five hurricane is over one hundred
and fifty seven miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Over a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Yes, that's a lot. I mean that's fast think about
but I mean really think about for a second, Like
that's faster than you've probably ever driven a car.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
What a bet I'm kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
I mean, I mean, I think I'd be impressed if
you just had a car capable of going that fast,
let alone the cojones to do it. But that's my
point is, like imagine for a second, like I would
be scared a category one in order to get to
category one the winds have to be seventy four to
ninety five last per hour. That's that's a speed that
we could kind of acknowledge because like, I've driven that fast. Yeah,

(01:01:30):
that's really fast.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
The reason that I remember category five A because I
grandparents that went the floor all the time. But be
we had a guy at my when I was on
my old team at my job, requesting a category five
rated garage door, and I was like, Homie, they don't
make those.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
It's made out of pure lead and concrete, and it
doesn't open, and it's underground eighteen feet And I don't
mean it's under I mean like as in eighteen feet
or above it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
But also I was like, okay, yeah, you got a
category five garage door. What about the garage.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Yeah, that's like somebody's saying, like that's like that old
joke about like if a plane crash, is only the
black boxes left, make the whole playing the black box. Homie,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
What he meant was a wind code rated five door.
But yeah, he put category five raided And that was
just like, Homie, that that there's no such thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
My brother, I am sorry to tell you, so I
want a Category five rated Volvo. Just I just don't
want it to be affected at all at all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So Haley decides to drive out to the condo and
she gets there, she finds the family dog there is
is there, but her dad is not. And so she
calls Beth and she's like, Dad's not here, and she's like, oh,
he might be at the old house. And she's like, well,
I thought he sold the old house, referring to their
old family home right right. And we find we do
we ever find out what happened to the mom. We
basically they just did it. Just did Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
They like a lot of people. So I'm a product
of divorce and a lot of my friends who are
a product of divorce. It usually happens either pretty I
mean not always, but I've noticed that it often either
happens really early on, like they just kind of noticed
pretty early on, like the Saint working, or it happens
right after the old the youngest kid is out of

(01:03:09):
the house. That makes sense because now all of a sudden,
it's like, Okay, we did our thing, we kept a
good home for them, we worked together on it. Now
it's time for us to do it. We're we're tired
of each other and we can't do it anymore. And
and and you know a lot of other factors too,
But I've just noticed that quite a bit. I have
a lot of friends who, yeah, they grew up with
their parents together, but then like when they were like
eighteen or nineteen, like they were in college, and it

(01:03:29):
was like, I just got the word, my parents are split. Spill.
So that's what we're getting the vibe of there. And
we've also gotten these little hints that her dad was
not very emotionally available. He had a business and he
just kind of threw all of himself into that. And
and also, you know, the big problem of the divorce

(01:03:50):
happening when everybody's an adult is there can be a
lot of resentment because you're trying to you're thinking of
this as like you're an adult, and you're thinking like, well,
why didn't they just do better? And it's like, well,
you may also be an adult, but they're like thirty
years older than you. They probably have their reasons. I'm
sure they didn't just do it for the lulls. It
was a goof ended a marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
And her sister that she talks to on the phone
seems to be pretty annoyed with the dad who doesn't
answer her calls and stuff very often. But she, as
they establish, has her own young family. She has a
little girl who's like four years old or something, and
she I think she was even pregnant in the video call,
which great storytelling point. Why do a video call? Well,

(01:04:33):
then you can tell even more of the story without leaving,
because we don't. I mean we do occasionally, but we
don't really leave the location of the storm. We leave
the main character occasionally, but we're always in this place
that's under threat of this massive hurricane. And the best
thing in this film I would say is like characters

(01:04:53):
followed immediately by setting, because the as the water rises
and the hurricane is increasing, and people are in boats
and there's a gas station across the street and all
this stuff, it becomes so foreboding and claustrophobic. Yeah, this
idea that like this is a sprawling neighborhood with like
a main road in a gas station, it should never

(01:05:15):
feel isolated, and all of a sudden, it's totally isolated.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
And the one thing that I'll get into when we
get into Trivia is Aza watched like hundreds of hours
of Hurricane footage and like researched them to like figure
out the story point, build on the weather, and you
can kind of tell.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
I mean, I think hundred is probably superfluous. I believe
you watched ten hours.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I'm just going by what IMDb s.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
I'm not saying. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm
saying you believe liar. Yes, no, but I'm just saying,
like I but I believe that he put a bunch
of researching because it felt, especially for being a pretty
fantastical concept with these alligators getting loose and just go
into talent people and well and anything I think get
their hands on, well, they're jaws on, jaws on. I
do think that it depicts that very well. But it

(01:05:59):
just yeah, that's my favorite part about watching that movie
is getting into that creepy there's water everywhere, and we
never know when the wind's gonna pick up again. We
don't know if people are even if help can even come.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I mean, yeah, we So I got a little ahead
of myself because when she goes to the condo first,
she doesn't run into Wayne. That's when she's going into
the house or into their old house, because it's in
a floodplain. It's in the flood zone.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
It's the it's in the non optional well evacuation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
She's literally pulling up to it, and the houses by
it are already like taking water from We can see
because it just looks like houses in the middle of
a pond.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's already getting pretty bad. And
I do love how she just says, well and then
just it just takes soft darts right off. Well, he
he made the mistake of being honest with her. So
when she says that, would you at least check on,
She's like, I'll try try, because he knows how bad
this is getting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Yeah, So she takes the dog, goes over to the house,
which is at Coral Lake and, like I said, a
location that's at risk of flooding. And she goes into
the house. Nice house, like a two story house, has
a basement and everything. She finds the house empty. But
then Fund makes her way out to the garage where
the crawl space is, Yes, the crawl the crawl space,
the krawl space, and she goes down because she's here,

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she thinks she like, here's voices. It turns out to
be a weather radio or just regular radio, and she
makes her way through the crawl space and then finds
her dad basically mulled in one section of the crawl space.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Yeah, and it's terrified.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
It's very terrifying.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
And that's when we basically figure out that he had
come to try and prepare the house. Yeah, one of
them wouldn't get destroyed, make.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Sure that the house wouldn't take waters bad and everything.
And we're down in the crawl space and seeing that
there's a lot of access to the sewer and other
things that may come into player later.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Well, and that's the other thing about Now, I've never
been through a hurricane. Yeah, I mean, I live too
far inland. Although that last hurricane that hit North Carolina,
we got crazy weather all the way over here. We
got like this crazy amount of rain. But that's the
other thing about hurricanes that's so scary. We just talked
about one hundred and fifty seven miles per hour winds.
But then there's the flooding. The flooding, and that's a
whole other ball because sometimes it floods a little. Sometimes

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you basically join the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Well, and sometimes the wind mixed with the flooding will
take those waves and ram them right against things and
break them even further.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Yeah, it's it's there's so many things to worry about,
let alone the alligators.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
But wait, there's more.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Don't worry, kids, We've got alligators for days.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
So she attempts to drag him out. She's got him
on like a tarp and she's pulling into and then
we get to what the scene that I remember the
most even in theater was because it just it feels
like you're in a video game where she is approaching
the stairs, the dog's barking at the top of the stairs,
she's pulling her dad, and then all of a sudden,
the fucking stares give way and an alligator just rams
through like it is like a video game cut scene.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Oh yeah, No, it's because it's a jump scare, like
in the middle of doing attack.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Oh yeah, I mean she's right like, she's right there
at safety and then this thing just burst right through.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
And I also want to say, you know, props to
Aja for putting this adorable dog in to make us
constantly worry about is the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Yeah, So the alligator naturally uh attacks her and throws
her around everything, and she gets mulled herself a little
bit and thrown to the side and separated from her dad. Yes,
So some time passes, she comes to and does he
does he save her? Do she saved him? I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
Uh no, he saves her because we think he's completely out. Yeah,
and then yeah, he kind of comes alive and and
and helps her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yeah. So they end up retreating back to where she
found him. And that is an area because the alligator
can't enter because he even basically says like, yeah, it
found me. I try to go back here where it
can't enter because there's these pipes all throughout the crawl space. Yeah,
and the alligator king they get through some areas. In
some areas, it can't from.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
What I've heard, alligators when it comes to swimming, they
they're not great at maneuvering. Yeah, That's why they stick
to generally like swamps, and they stick to larger bodies
of water. Plus, these are big boys. Yeah, I mean,
they're not little ones, which also makes sense because the
larger alligators are gonna have bigger appetites mm hm. And
they're also used to getting a lot of food and

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they're you to getting like whatever they want because of
the biggest Yeah, so why would the babies, why would
the little tiny alligators even care? But in a big
storm like this, it's a phone friends eating frenzy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Yeah, and we should also mention too that she stepped
into mud poop whatever it is, and she's picking her
shoes off at one point too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Oh yeah, so well John McLean action.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
So she's barefoot now in the attack, she also lost
her phone, and she tells her death that she's going
to go try to find the phone, and that's when
she encounters another alligator.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yes, and I gotta be honest, I don't remember if
the trailer gave away that there were a bunch alligators.
I think it made us think there was maybe two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
At most, but yeah, it didn't. And I mean, so
she's now face to face with the second alligator. It
attacks her leg breaks her phone. So now she's also
injured with her dad, has no phone, and the rain
is still going the flooding is still continuing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Well, and as they're observing their surroundings and stuff, they're
starting to realize, like, what good would the phone even
do at this point, Yeah, nobody's going to get you
out of there anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
So it gets to the point where we see how
high the flooding is because the radio has now also
taking water, like it's sitting on this little liz little
like crevice near the brick and everything, and it's like
touching it. She's trying to get somebody's attention, and she
sees across the street at the convenience store. Nice, these
nice three kids that are robbing the convenience store.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, yeah, well you know I'll give them a pass. Yeah,
not only because uh you know, spoiler or they get
chopped to death, but I'll give them a pass because,
like you know, as you're taking the freedom lays and
stuff from that store, it's like, what are somebody going
to eat them? They're getting destroyed by a hurricane.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
But I mean we do meet them loading the fucking
ATM into their boat.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
What are they going to spend the money after the
hurricane ATM? Oh my god, I gotta tell you this.
Oh I hope you mean automatic teller machine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
So you know I have my court cam bullshit that
when I was when we did our live stream, I
was on your couch watching court cam before we were
getting ready to do so.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
I I appreciate that that you're willing to to talk
about this, but just for the heads up, this is
not your priest that you're contesting. No, no, but no,
I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
So yeah, Court Cam is a show on Amy is
literal court cam footage of trials all throughout the years
and everything, but just wild things happening. I've finished everything,
Like I think I watched all twelve seasons. I reached,
so naturally, Hulu is like, hey, we think you might
like these. And I used to think that True TV, Crime,

(01:12:19):
Court TV all that shit was like the bottom of
the barrel. A and E has gotten there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
I mean, or you could just go on YouTube and
find what they're pulling from exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
So not only that, but we have Neighborhood Wars, we
have Customer Wars, we have all these shows. But then
I found one called KOT which is all kinds of
hidden not hidden, but security cam footage, police vests, people's
cell phones, all this stuff. And there was a section
about heist in particular ATM Heights, and there was a
hilarious clip I think I think it might have been Beijing,
I can't remember, but there's two people that are trying

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to break into the store and rob this, like take
this ATM out using bricks. Oh my god, Dude goes
to throw the brick, not realizing his buddy is walking
right in front of him, locks him right in the
back and he's knocked out. And the last part of
the clip is him dragging him to the car because
the heist is now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Fan Yes, then see, I'm a man of class culture.
That's why when I was on Max looking for garbage,
I started watching Exposed Naked Crime Crimes, which is just
about crimes where people were in the nude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
There's my strange arrest. Was one that caught my attention
Hotel Hell, which is not the word Ramsey show. It's
like an actual true story of like true crime hotel incidents.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Okay, so yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
If you are looking for some fun stuff, Court Camon
caught two shows I highly recommend. Also also Customer Horse
and Neighborhood Wars has been pretty interesting. Geez, Neighborhood Wars
is petty, fucking patty. You don't say, dude, I've seen
so many fences taken down with construction equipment by the
other neighbor it's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
That's funny. Yeah, I think as a home owner, I
am constantly looking at my fence and going when it's done,
rust and who is it? Whose is it? Even though
who these fences belong to? Yeah? Fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
So she retreats back to a safe space, and that's
when her she's telling her dad, you know, I wanna
We've got to figure out.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
What to do.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
See the looters across the street, and she gets a
flashlight starts trying to signal them, and we see one
of the looters come forwardcause he sees it and he's like,
I think somebody needs help over there. Meanwhile, we've already
seen that the alligators may be approaching the convenience store,
maybe with underwater footage ripped straight from Jaws. Theov well, in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Defense of those alligators, they probably just wanted some scratch
offs because they were like, look how lucky we are
with all this meat just floating around. We should really
press our luck and get a couple of a couple
of scratch offs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
So we see one of my favorite attacks in the movie,
just because we don't we don't see it to the
clearness that we could, is the kids approaching the house
because he sees the flashlight and his other accomplices in
the backload in the ATM and he's like, I think
somebody needs help. She's like, what, I think there's something
in the water. So then he's approaching the flashlight and
she's like, you know, there's alligators in the water is
what Haley shouted them. When he turns back, his other

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friend is just being mauled in the boat by this alligator. Yeah,
and we see it like just behind him, like it's
not in a clear shot even when he turns around.
The body's getting pulled in at that point, and I
just love that sneak attack from the back. So then
he goes up to the other because there's another friend
in the convenience store, tries to get his attention. He
sees his body just completely thrown against the glass at

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that point, and then the alligator's already in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
He's like, well, yeah, I think that that's gonna be
the end for me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
So the three looters are gone. They are no longer
any help to Haley and her father or to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
You know whatever. They were gonna buy fifty TVs from
with that ATM money.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
So by this point we also see that the flooding
has gotten even more even more extreme, and Wayne and
his partner the cops from earlier are in a boat
now coming to check on Haley and her father because
he hadn't seen her come back through, so he's like,
you know what's going on. They enter the house, they
find nothing, but then if that dog is not barking
right at that crawl space, so Wayne goes to check it,

(01:16:12):
but meanwhile his partner doesn't even make it in the
house because he is devoured in like the streets right
outside the house by like multiple What are they gonna do,
like share like I love the tea or I love
the teas of it. Because he's by the swing set
and we see the swing is like pulling away and
everything like something's caught on it, and then all of
a sudden it breaks free and then he's chomped town

(01:16:33):
he's chopped.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
I like that, like one of the alligators is like
got the hair and my favorite spot to grab a bite.
It's not Diner's drives dinos and dives basically dinosaurs.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
So he is torn to pieces. Meanwhile, Wayne gets to
the crawl space. He's calling out to Haley and Dave.
The dog is barking and they're trying to warn him,
but then that alligator comes right up and pulls him
down into the call space.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Big a, I got a big head. Did you ever
watch Swamp People? Oh? Yeah, of course I loved swamp People.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
What was the one you introduced me? It was a
mountain men.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Oh yeah, that's great too. Not related to alligators, but
a great show. Yes, But no, I just every time
I see an alligator, I still like out of habit
I school. Alright, no, big old while I got all
it out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
So Wayne is out of commission at this point, just
a little bit, a smidgeon thet smidgeon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
Let's just let's put it in a kinder way in
case his family is listening. He went to Flavor Town.
He went to Flavor So by this point, the water
is just climbing in Flavor Town. Yes, yes, indeed it
sure is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
So the water's climbing. It's getting to the point where
like they can barely keep their heads up. I mean,
like that's how much space they.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Have, Oh, I think, but they're so depressed or so
their heads up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
So Haley decides that she's gonna make it an effort
to get out of the house and try to get help,
but also get back into the house to try and
see if she can free your father because they have
no way out there. They're trapped in this crawl space,
the alligators down there, and also the steps are gone.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Yeah, the water's rising and rising and rising, and luckily
there's a good amount of drainage in there, but it's
only gonna last so long.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
So long, and even more so because she has to
find a drain pipe that she goes into into the
sewer hole.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Well, that's actually one of my favorite minor exchanges. And
she's telling her she's like, I want to He's like,
all right, you're gonna want to get to the wet
wall and you could take it up. And she's like,
all the walls are wet, and he's like, it's the
wall with all the pipes running the water, which I
just thought was just a great little touch. He's built houses,

(01:18:38):
He's like the wet wall. She's like, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
So she ends up swimming into a storm drain, where
she discovers that the alligators not only have made a
home there, but they've also laid a lot of eggs.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Yes, a lot of eggs or as we call them
in bodybuilding, pure protein protein. No, No, there are big
big eggs alligator.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
And even like three of them she find are already
broken open.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Well, and that's just bad because that means that they're
entirely territorious. Yeah, you know, because because obviously in this storm,
they're not going to be threatened by the alligator's breeding. No,
but I mean, for God's sake, like when we were
driving back from the movies, just one of those geese
sitting on its eggs in near the middle of the
parking lot, being super aggressive. I had a goose once

(01:19:21):
chase my car.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Like it was just like get away right, I'm like,
I am a car, like I'm in a car like
I I mean, number one, I'm not even messing with you.
But number two, Like, what are you gonna do? Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I mean, it could do some shit, but I don't
know about a car to a car.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
No, No, it hurt, it could be. Yeah, you know
you wanted to estimate me, David, maybe for the last time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I've never seen you fight a goose. My bad.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Oh, you must have been really drunk that night.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Fanny gooses geese, Oh my gosh. So that is when
she comes in contact with another alligator, which we we
track of them at this point. So there was like,
there's five that attack Wayne's partner.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
There, there's plenty, there's plenty, there's plenty to go around kids.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
So she gets attacked by one. She's fighting it off
and luckily, speaking of Wayne finds his body in this area.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Oh thank goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
So this is where they're hoarding all the bodies at
this point, along with the eggs. And she ends up
finding Wayne's gun. The alligator attacks are biting onto her hand,
but she has the gun in her hand and she
blows that thing's head off.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Do you know do you know a lot about alligators?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Let mean a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Do you know why they stash bodies? So this is
actually real. Alligators like to put dead things. If they
feel like they're safe, they'll put dead things like in
a root for whatever. So they stand with water, yeah,
and let them soften. They'll let the water soften them
and then come back where they're easy to eat. I
don't know if that's a thing they also do for
feeding their young. Probably is. But the two things I

(01:20:49):
know really know about alligators is the death roll just mortified,
and and that they'll stick things. They'll stash things underwater,
and also they may be full at that time. Yeah,
because alligators, you know, they're amphibians, and amphibians will eat
a ton and then not eat for weeks, and then
eat a ton and then not eat for weeks. But
when I heard that that they'll like put something under
a root and just let it soften in the water,

(01:21:10):
I was like, ah, I mean yeah, but that's why,
that's why they're stashing bodies. They're they're there. At this point,
the Schmorgus board is too generous, So like here, let
me put it in a way because I want you
to fully understand it. Yeah, So stashing a body underwater
to the alligators is similar to when you line your
pockets you specifically with a plastic and go to the

(01:21:32):
Golden croud. Yeah, or just fill in your pockets with
peel and eat shrimp.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Or when I literally got hot head a couple of
nights ago, didn't eat all my burritos, so I wrapped
it up and then the next night I just put
it into a bowl and just like stir it up
and then my rift.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
I mean that'll that'll do it. It was good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
I was worried about like reheating, like the like with
the sour cream and whatnot, like I would just eat
it cold. Yeah, I guess I could have done that,
but you hadn't had your shower wine yet, and I
also hadn't listened to the Great Gig of the Sky.
That's usually when you know, want to eat cold food,
I gotta be depressed all the way.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Oh wait, hold on, oh no, no, no, hear me out.
Is eating cold leftovers from a restaurant depressing? No, I
don't know. I just wanted because to me, like, that's
not sad, because like it was brand new, great food
like two days ago. Now of course it was really

(01:22:24):
old is one thing. But like, no, like eating a
cold can of green beans out of the can, that's
that's sad. That's depressing on a Thursday night after you
just couldn't stand editing podcasts anymore. But I would know, not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Waiting for the hot pocket to completely eat and just
deciding to eat it as it is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Okay, that's fucking sad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Or no, wait, no, no, I remember that. I remember.
The one dish I made that broke you during quarantine
was spaghetti tacos where I just took banquet TV dinner spaghetti.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Oh that's what makes it sad?

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Yes, yes, and put it into hardshell tacos.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Oh it's heart okay. That okay, because the first second
when I thought it was regular totis, I was like,
I was like, ah, so it's like you took a
trip to the depression piata.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
The I'm trying to think of how I can combine
Fazoli's and Taco Bell.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
It's called piata. I mean, yeah, I guess you're right.
You've had pia numerous I don't actually like the literal
piata because it's like just a it like, it feels
like a burrito with pasta, and I like the pasta,
but no, Yeah, if you can buy Taco Bell with Pizzoli's,
it's basically piata.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
I mean. There's also a status during quarantine where I
basically discovered the magic of micro go on microwave burritos
and scotch. That is that is a Facebook status that
still exists out there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Would you look at the burrito and you look at
the Scotch, You're like a twenty fifteen. Then you look
at there like twenty seventeen, mighty good year?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Yes, what was the what were the notes you got
from the from the from the microwave brimb you're just like,
h I'm getting like an oakie finish. And what is
that on the front end? Is that? H That is
sodium benzow eight hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
But the Philly cheese teak hot pocket not bad.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
And and then of course the room note is your farts.
So at that point is the gas. My god, that's
one thing I I gotta tell you, like I don't often,
there are two times in life where I feel truly
genetically blessed yea. And because I don't generally feel very
genetically blessed. And that is my teeth, which are not

(01:24:38):
naturally straight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
That was a really long.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
But they are surprisingly healthy and resistant to cavities. I
mean I take care of them as well, but I
have good I have good saliva and stuff. But the
other one is whenever I eat like really hot food
with like my friends who are of a Caucasian variety.
You mean like a freaking sweet well, yes, but people

(01:25:03):
will just be like very hot. Oh my god, that
was the funniest thing. You should you should describe that
real quick because dear listeners, yeah, we have a tradition,
I want to hear you described.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
We have a tradition where basically, when we end the Wasteland.
On Saturday, we go to a really awesome restaurant. I
mean I've already said sweet ango. Yeah, after a movie convention,
after a movie convention, and uh, this was a this
was time was no different. And Enrique decided to get
the hot oils for what was the this you got?
I just I mean you get it all.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Oh I didn't get pad time that. I think I
had drunken noodles.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yeah, and so the hot oils, please please describe the hot.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
It's hot oil. So it's chili flakes cooked in hot
oil that infuses the oil. It's actually more of a
chili crunch because it has chili's in it that add
a crunch to it. I love really really hot food,
he does. And it's important to mention being Hispanic and
growing up eating lots and lots of authentic Mexican food
and stuff like that. I'm used to a lot of

(01:25:59):
heat anyway, but Asian food often takes it to a
new level, often like Thai food, Indian food, Sri Lankan
food like will get really spicy, which I love. But
on top of everything, because I've had there have been
legendary stories of me going to sweet Mango and eating
such hot food that I started hearing things. Yeah, yeah,

(01:26:23):
I was there, but this time was more dangerous because
while I may not look it, I have been eating
slightly healthier. And when I eat at home and I'm
eating healthy food, the amount of hot sauce and hot
peppers I cook with is a lot. And because of that,
my baseline tolerance goes up, which which should be concerning

(01:26:47):
because it's always high. But now all of a sudden,
it's like, no, you don't understand. Like I'm putting. I'm
putting like hobanaro sauce into oatmeal. Sometimes in the morning,
I'm not like, but eventually, like, I get that bad
to where I'm like, I almost don't want anything to
be not spicy. I had never been to sweet mango

(01:27:09):
after like six months of building up my tolerance unintentionally.
So I'm eating my food and it's not very hot.
So I asked for chili oil and she and she
hands it to me and I I'm not even going
crazy with that. I just took one scoop. It's a
little tiny spoon. It honestly, it was like like a
spoon you eat.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
A grapefruit was it the first time or the second time.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
That was the first time. The first she had to me, oh,
thank you when it's yeah. Yeah, she looked terrified for me.
But I don't think it was just because it's so spicy,
although it is and really delicious. But I think it
was also because she was afraid I was gonna like
ruin my food and they're gonna have to bring me more. Yeah,
they'd feel bad, but so I was. And this, like
I said, spoonfuls are not that big, so I'm just
kind of jije in it around. But eventually I'm like,

(01:27:47):
who am I kidding? And I just put the whole
thing in there and I asked her a second one.
She was like, you shure yep. And I was like,
please bring me one more yep.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
I was waiting for you to get one for to
go in the car for the doughnuts.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Well it almost did. Ryan. I picked up some food
for our buddy Ryan from Terror Vision because he was
working in his hotel room and he literally his instructions
were pineapple fried rice with chicken, tie spicy, yeah or
tie hot. And you know what ti hot is. Yeah,
it's obscenely.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
So's I've seen a dish that was like damn near
red when it came out, being tie hot.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
So I almost thought about going, could you give me
a cup of that? Because I know how much he
loves hot food. But to go back to my original point,
I have all these friends who will also down really
hot food, but they'll be like, I'll be paying for
that tomorrow or whatever, and I'm like, doesn't happen to me.
My body just it's it's it's it's like I'm like
in Mars attacks when they just like capture the nuclear

(01:28:42):
bomb and then like huff it for fun. That's me
with spicy food. I it just it almost never causes
intestinal issues. Although I did feel like really hot in
my chest and stomach for about four hours, like that, did.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
You feel it when we were smoking the cigars? Afterwards?

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
Not afterwards? I mean I was already feeling okay. I
mean I was feeling it for when I went to bed.
It was funny. All I took was one PEPs at
ac before I went to bed, which honestly is more
about how much I ate so late at night said
it was even the spice.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
And that's not a brag. No, this food's very, very
hot I just like it. Believe me, I've had your
burrita before. I know how you like spicy things.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Yeah, you got what you fucking deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
It did.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
I'm just saying. So, my other the one genetic blessing
is I don't think about like, boy, it's gonna make
me sick. It's like, if I can, if my tongue
can survive it, the rest of me is set. I
get that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
I get that. So Haley by this point has killed
one of the alligators of Wayne's gun, and she realizes
that her dad is gonna drown if she does not
get him out of the crawl space. So she swims
out of a flooded street through storm drain and enters
the house, and the dog, of course, greets her, because
we did forget to mention there's a lot that happens
in the crawl space. But one of the things is
that she tries to go through a hatch that her

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dad has in the house, but there's a table on
top of it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because that would have been so
much easier. Yeah, but yeah, she's she's stuck in there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
So by this point we see that Dave is taking water.
He's he's almost about the drown and she's just taking
a crowbar to the floor of the house and popping
up these floorboards and then reaches down and grabs him
and gets him out just in time. He is sinking
to the floor of the crass space.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
Yeah, he's starting to drown.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Yeah, So she gets him out of the or gets
him out of the of the crawl space. And that
is when they take the dog and they make their
way to a boat outside. But as they're doing this,
the rain stops. Oh good, no, because we find out
they're in the eye of the storm. And the eye
of the storm is basically when the storm recenters itself
in a.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Sense, Well, it's when you get to the center of
the storm. Yeah, the winds aren't as bad. It's very
calm because I mean you can see from space when
they photograph a hurricane, you can see the eye. Yeah,
there's just not as much going on right in that middle. Yeah,
so it's always eerily calm. But the big problem with
the eye is once you exit it, it's bad in
your back, real bad, and you don't know when it

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could be minutes or you know, ten minutes, twenty minutes
or six And to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Add to this. The eye of the storm also is
a point where we start to hear an alarm, not
unlike our friends in hard rain, that the levee is about.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
To break the leve YEA. Yeah, oh well it makes
that makes sense. I you know, it's fine. I just don't.
I usually don't think of levee in the context of
the ocean. Yeah, but it makes I mean, they have
things to block the water obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
So the levee's gonna break, and that is when they
crash into them, putting them right back into the house,
but also separating them and bringing more alligators right into
the house.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Well, I mean, it's the only place in Flavortown that's
got in the action. And also it's on top of
their gut. I love the revealed that there's a nest there,
which means it's their territory. Yeah, which means that they
had a claim to it even before the storm.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Well, and we can back up too for a second,
to the nest, because we did miss one thing that
we already hinted about is right before she goes away
from Dave, her father, she she's afraid, and she's afraid.
She doesn't know if she can do it, and they
have this heart to heart specifically with him going to
her and basically saying, you, you've done these things like
you were you were the one that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
You say, yeah, I can, I can, I can fill
it in. But but but before that, yeah, I mean,
she reveals that she believes she ruined their marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Marriage Yeah, and he's straight up like, no, we didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Work, and your mom deserved to find some happiness. I
was not making your happy. It was selfish that I
always wanted her to stay, and I didn't feel as
bad when she was staying because you kids were still
in the house. I would be like, well, we're just
keep it to other. So the moment you guys were gone,
I couldn't do it to her anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
And he even admits that he never tried to sell
the house. He couldn't bring himself to do.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
It, Yeah, which I kind of suspected.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Well, I mean when we see the house, there's like
the measurements on the walls and everything, like he's got
so many memories tied up in this house. And that's
what even says, Yeah, like I can't sell this house.
She's like it's just a house. He's like, it's not
just a house like this, These are our memories, and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
It's easy to since he's he works repairing houses, it's
easy to be like, well, I got to fix it up. Yeah,
and then it just takes forever because well, because he
could literally do everything there. He could redo the drywall
and then be like, oh, I gotta I gotta redo
the electric, Oh I gotta do this. So you can
just keep it for as long as humanly possible because
he doesn't want to move on.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
But the speech he the part he said to her
after he was like, I can't believe you think it's
your fault. It's not your fault. I'm the one at fault.
And she even says like, well, when you know what
about you, you deserve to be happy. He's like, no,
I don't, yeah, which is really a sad moment, but
it's also important because the fact that he could admit
that to her, that he feels that badly about himself, yeah,
is a moment that he could grow from. But then
he tells her he's like the reason I, oh, man,

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I'll get emotional, but he's like, the reason I'm confident
that you're you've got this that you can't give up is.
I remember when you couldn't hold your breath at the
pool and you got really upset, and we came home
and I was like, it'll be okay, and you were
just you were so mad, and I was like, don't
give up, it'll be okay. And then I heard a
sound and I came downstairs because I thought we had

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a burglar. Yeah, and I look outside and it's you
taking big breaths and dunking yourself in the water at
two in the morning. She's a little kid, which, by
the way, is why pools are more deadly than firearms
and cars for children, because you drown in a pool.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
But you just look at Mikey's sister.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Oh well that was her fault. No, but but so
he says that, like, I saw you dunking yourself until
you could do it of your with your own motivation.
Nobody told you to do that. And he was like,
and that was when I knew, Like, this girl's a fighter.
That's why it's hard to because it's a really great

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agree and it's a great scene that makes you truly
want these characters to win, no matter how fun and silly.
The concept of killer alligators and a hurricane is these
are real people.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
These are real people, and they're written so well, and
they have a human sense about them. They're not just
throwing one liners around and whatnot. They're they're working together,
They're they're being sentimental.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
One time, I I a friend I would talk about
who he's with. This is years ago, was talking about
how the thing he hated in thrillers was that, like
when they would try to be heavy or try to
give you something like that, Yeah, that you'd be like,
but it's always so like, it's always so thin, you know,
they just it's like a few scenes, it's like it
doesn't you don't really earn it. And I'm like, and
I was like, you're right, it should be like Steel Magnolias.

(01:35:12):
It should be three hours. I love Steel Magnolias. But
my point is like, yeah, you're right, it should be
three hours of character development and then also a hurricane
and some like an alligators are like a diehard situation. Yeah,
well it's like, come on, man, they're trying to they're
trying to balance it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
One of my all time favorite, uh my all time
favorite feeds of dialogue in character development is wish Master,
where the sister is is with her in the room
and she's just like, are you smoking again? Like you
know you should be so stressed about that. She's like, hey,
you saved me from the fire, but I didn't get
Bob and data.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
Yeah. No, but you know, even with something that cheese,
what they give you. What they're trying to do is
give you a character that matters, but not take you
out of the story you showed up for. Yeah, because
that's the thing. It doesn't. It didn't say, you know,
crawl and sad dad, Like it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
A wushmaster and therapy and therapy, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. You know, you'll wish for
higher level anthem Blue Cross so it'll pay for your therapy, granted.
But but that's my point is like I think they
did a good job of pacing this out to give
you what we need to get to know them. Yeah,
obviously we can only get so much because it's it's
a eighty seven minute movie about a killer stormful of

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killer alligators. Yeah, we're not going to derail the whole
thing because because imagine how much people would complain, Oh yeah,
if they were like it's two hours, thirty minutes if
it was just the mom and the dad talking to
his dag, it's like they're they're they're giving you more
by and they're thinking it through, and honestly, it was
very subtle overall, like but at the end of the day,

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it's like, you can't expect the most intricate and subtle
characterizations when you want a ninety minute creature feature. So
they're giving. In my opinion, they did a phenomenal job
with it, and that made me, made me care, and
little things like that can make a really big difference,
especially if you're like a stupid softy like me, Like

(01:37:10):
Friday at thirteenth part four, what's the guy who's in
the woods who says he's hunting bear? I can't. But
when he gives the little the little speech about like
my sister was killed and stuff, I feel for him
because Jason's killed a bunch of people at that point
in the series. Now, of course I feel like they
kind of did him dirty with how quickly he got dispatched,
but that's a whole other conversation. But I remember like

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liking that and being like, oh, I'm having like a
human connection feeling in this Friday the thirteenth movie.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Well, it's like the same thing that I could say
for Humanoids from the Deep. I mean, the there is
humanity in that movie, even though like it does have
the noise humanoids. Yeah, but no, there is humanity in
that movie because the whole the whole thing with the
monsters is coming after this whole town being against each
other for this, for this cannery opening, and also the
racism too.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
That well, that one's like a great example of like
that's all about subtext. Yeah, I mean, that's like a
cause movie, which Korman love doing back then especially, and
that's a whole other kind of tan of worms. Yeah,
I mean, but really well done. They did a great
job with it. And that's the thing. A lot of
nature run amuck movies. Usually they're either about nature being

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kind of an allegory for what happens when you mess
with nature, what happens when you do whatever, and how
it could come back to get you. Yeah, it's usually
either an allegory for that, or it's an allegory for
like destiny, an allegory for the challenges that life will
bring you that you're not expecting and how you have
to rise to the occasion. Of any challenges that come
your way. And you know, perhaps I'm overthinking it, but
I really do feel like for the most part, with

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disaster movies, although this is a disaster monster movie. Yeah,
with disaster movies, that's kind of the point, is like,
no matter, like when we talked about hard rain, like
that's the whole thing is. It's like, oh, yeah, you
made a plan, but like none of the storm closet
don't give a shit about your plans. It all comes
back to like that old saying I always loved, which is,
how do you make God laugh? Make a plan?

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Make a plan?

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
I always like that. That's a great you know saying,
you know, whether you're a religious person or not, because
you know that it's like, oh, that's a good way
of saying, shit happens when you party naked.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
So, speaking of hard rain, we are now into the
hard rain section of Crawl because there is no ignoring
the fact that these last ten minutes are very hard
rain esque.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
Yes, and I'll give them a I'll cut them some slack.
It's a flood movie. Yeah, just like hard rain. How
far can you go different when it comes to surviving
a flood? Of course, in hard rain, there were crooks
to escape and this one it's alligates.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
I mean, the alligators are basically Randy Quaid and Morgan
Freeman in this.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
I find most alligators are pretty much Randy Quaid.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
So Dave and the dog make their way upstairs. Alligator
attacks him right away, so we already have like I
think three alligators in the house that we know of
right off the bat. So he gets bitten on his forearm,
and that's when Haley navigates around the kitchen because she
is trying to not alert herself but also get to
the police radio that we see that's floating in the water. Yes,
excuse me, we're both having issues.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
I just got over some kind of a thing. Yeah,
I don't know if it was a cold or what,
but it's pretty much thank god it's over.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Yeah. So we even get faked out a couple of times,
like we think something's in the water, and eventually there
is an alligator closes in on her, but she traps
it by swimming into the bathroom and swimming around the
bathroom stall, which is one of the most famous like
scenes in the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
Well, it's it's brilliantly shot. Yeah, the bird's eye view
of the whole thing happening really intense and creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Super intense. I mean she literally shuts the door with
it in there, climbs over it real quick, and this
thing is just trapped behind a glass door that's gonna
give a way any second.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Yeah, any second, any And that's it. That's something AJA
is really great at. Yeah, that I think gets lost
when you look at the hot tension hot tension literally
tensions in the title. There's tons of tension in it. Yeah,
but because it was so extreme, that tends to be
what everybody remembers. Yeah, when in reality twist it, yeah,

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but when in reality it was also just masterfully made.
That's why Aja hasn't been pigeonholed as only the extreme
horror guy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Even The Hills Have Ivory make has so many different
things about it from the original that makes it its
own movie, but still respects that original proble, And that's
kind of hard to do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
I agree, although I think, I mean nothing against that
movie or his directing on it, But it was like
a very obvious choice, yeah, based on Hot Tosh to
have him come and do the hillsop Eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
I remake holds up too. I haven't seen in a
good while, but I was never really a big fan
of the original though, I know. Oh yeah, yeah, oh wait,
I think I watched it with you. Maybe we probably
did a long time. Yeah. It's like a military it's
kind of like a Wrong Turn two esque. I don't
know if I've seen it, Okay, I'd be willing to revisit.
It's been a while.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Well geez.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
So she's got this thing a slamed inside the shower
door and she tries to make her way to the attic.
She's attacked by another alligator at this point and attempts
to kill her with a death roll, which is what
I think the first death roll we get in the
movie been close up too. Yeah, but she is ready
because she luckily has some flares on her that she
found when she was out rooting round and takes one
of those and sticks it right in that fucker's eye. Yes,

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she does, lights it, sticks it right in the eye.
So by this point she has to navigate back into
the attic again it's another alligator, but eventually makes it
on top of the roof with her father and the dog.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Hey Dave, hmmm, So when you shove something up somebody's ass.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
It's called well, it's called Tuesday Night, but it's called
it's called Where the Sun Don't Shine. Yeah, if you
shove something into something something or somebody's eyes, would that
be where the sun does shine? I got them right,
where the Sun does shine?

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
I like that that sounid.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
No it's not. I'm just really, I'm just really stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
So they're all reunited on the roof at this point,
and that's when we see a helicopter fly overhead. They've
received Haley's call that she made with the radio, and
she lights a flare flags it down, and that's when
her and her father look at each other. They've got triumph.
They are relieved, and the movie ends right then and there.
That is twenty nineteen's crawl the.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
Image, because it ends with her basically, honestly, when I
when I watched it today, she's almost like the Statue
of Liberty. Yeah, she's like standing there holding it up,
and she's looking really dominant and tall. And she saved
her dad, which when that arm bite happened, oh my god,
really looked like he was gonna die, Like, really looked
like he was gonna die. And of course they teased

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having the dog almost die a bunch of entire time.
I got something trivia about that so well. And that's
the thing though, was like, I think Aza really is
a guy who's got his finger on the pulse of
how to how to do a great thriller that can
be accessible Because this again, I could show my mom this,
she'd be really scared because it's very scary.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
But she also showed you like New Nightmare and Dawn
of the Day. Well brought those home to you to
show her.

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
I mean she didn't show me, but no, no, Mom
can take a lot of the credit for Freddy Krueger. Yeah,
the moment she found out I liked Freddy Krueger because
my sister would show me tape. She was just like,
New Nightmare just came out. I'm gonna go get it
at Blockbuster. I'm gonna call ahead. Yeah. I still remember
eating pizza on the floor watching that with my mom.
That was a fun time.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
So would you like to guess what the budget was
on Crawl?

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
So my instinct would be really low, but we didn't.
This was Sam Raimi produced. Sam Raimi produced, famous for
Evil Dead, and we covered one of his lesser known
but incredible movies. A simple plan. Yes, So I'm gonna
guess because he tended, they tended to be a little
higher budget when he was producing than you'd expect. So
I'm going to guess closer to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
You're right on the nose. Thirteen thirteen and a half
to fifteen is the estimation.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
Okay, because I would my initial guest would have been
like eight, seven or eight, but Raimi always tends to
bring a little bit more budget.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
And also, this movie's from twenty nineteen, and it's kind
of like what I've been saying about, how like, how
like sometimes you can look a stuff from like twenty seventeen. Yeah,
and we're twenty twenty five, so he has almost ten years,
but it feels it's not that long ago, and you
can see how much cheaper things look. So I do
want to say that I think if they did that
movie today, they could probably do it cheaper, just because
of the advances in technology for the because they obviously

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had to use a lot and you'll probably know more
about it in the trivia you researched, but they probably
to use a lot of Matt techniques and CGI in
order to make this entire flooded because it would be
insanely expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
Just wait till I get into that. So, yeah, thirteen
and a half to fifteen million is the budget. Opening
weekend which is July twelve, twenty nineteen, brings in twelve
million nice worldwide, ends up grossing ninety one million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
That's a hit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
So it was filmed in bell is It Belt, Belgrade, Serbia. Yeah, Grade, Belgrade, Belgrade, Serbia.
Production took place in a warehouse facility. Within the facility,
three sound stages were equipped, with the largest one an
exterior house in the neighborhood, another one for the house
exterior and interiors first and second floor also used for
underwater filming, and a third stage for the basement and

(01:45:36):
roof scenes. Barry Pepper mentioned that the warehouses were the
size of football fields and that the house's gas stations
and trees were all built on set, along with seven
water tanks, two filled simply to carry the water, Four
were used for each section of the house, and a
three meter tall sixty meter by eighty meter tank was
used for the neighborhood. Wow, this was huge.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
Yeah, that's that's massive.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Most of the weather elements seen in the film, including
the wind and rain, were provided on set during filming,
while the setting trees and hurricane itself were computer generated.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
That's what I thought, yeah, because it would just make
How would you like?

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
How would you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
After filming concluded, the visual effects were handled during post
production for three months by Rodeo Effects, supervised by Tommy Montemini,
Browner and Keith Colder, who created a total of two
hundred and forty four shots in the film.

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
Three months.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
Three months.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
It looks really done. Yeah, three months seems really fast.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Although the film is set in Florida, six of the
eight top built actors are from the UK, one from Canada,
and one from Croatia.

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
Well okay, it's like an NBA teens yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Scot Hilario found the shoot to be the most physically
demanding of her career, stating I was broken at the
end of every day. We were shooting sixteen to eighteen
hour days. I was on set all day every day.
I lost about twelve pound shooting the movie, but gained
some of it in muscle, which I was quite impressed with.
I broke a finger, came home every day bruised bloodied
and cut open.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
God damn well, and working in water, yeah is just
I mean, And I have my own feelings about water. Yeah,
I think we talked. I've drowned twice, yes, so I'm
not as terrified of water as I was for most
of my life. I learned how to officially swim when
I was thirty. That would help, So I think it
was thirty or twenty nine, Yeah, somewhere in the neighborhood.
And yeah, working in water every day, I mean, not

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just how unpredictable water can be, even in a pool
or a tank, but also just your skin getting pruney,
how hard it is to keep the temperature under control.
I mean, it's good, it's just gonna be cold every day.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Well, you shot those underwater scenes for Scare Waves, would
you say it was difficult to shoot with the camera underwater?

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
I didn't shoot them, Oh you didn't. Yeah, that's right
because Eric, my assistant director on it, we were using
at the time. We were using his camera because he
had a camera that was smaller, Yeah, that could fit
in a in a in the dry bag as what
we're called, but it was actually like an underwater photography bag.
But since he already knew it to operate the camera,
and he's very comfortable in the water and I am not.

(01:48:02):
But also it wasn't just that I didn't want to
get wet though, It was also that we had such
a fast production schedule we we had. I didn't have
time to be drying off while we shot the next scene.
Now you know the way we scheduled it. The actress
in that scene, who was swimming in the pool, she
had time to get dried off, but I had to.
The second we were done wrapping, I grabbed the a

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camera and went straight inside the house to film something
else while our lead actress was getting her hair dried
and doing her makeup again and everything. So it was
a double of that. But then after that, every other
time we ever did anything under water, I had Eric
do it because he did such a good job. The
hardest part is getting exposure underwater, because it's brighter under
there than you're expecting. You're expecting it to actually be
kind of dark, but that's because once you get the

(01:48:44):
exposure right, it just looks kind of dark because it's
actually pretty bright because which makes sense when you think
about it, because the sun's hitting it. Yeah, so I
just remember that too. Is like we shot a couple
of test shots and they'd come up and we would
look at it, you know, we'd get a sun blocker
and we'd look at it, and then we would get
the until we got the exposure right. Yeah, and then

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it was like, let's film it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Yep, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
It was fun. It was fun. But yeah, I would
rather not work in water if I could help it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
That's fair. There were no press screenings for the film.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
Who needs them?

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
Clearly this is the first horror film Sam Raimi produced
in many years without his longtime producing partner Rob Tappert.

Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
Oh. It was the beginning of the end of that
mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
The original script, by Michael and Sean Rassamussen was a
Specs script that landed in possession of Aja. While Aza
liked the logline, he became disappointed with the story's actual length,
which only took place in the crawl space with one
alligator menacing the characters until a second alligator showed up
in the third act.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
Well that's the kind of thing where it's like, well,
they're willing to drop you know, like fifteen mil. Yeah,
so let's go for a spectacle.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Yeah, Aja then went to left to James Wand Production
to rewrite the script for over a year to introduce
new locations and expand the characters. He did extensive research
on hurricanes and alligators, while also looking at hundreds of
hours of real footage. Hundreds hundreds. It was guy scotta it.
Oh my god, I can't talk now. I know Scotty
Alaro's idea for her character to be barefoot most of

(01:50:07):
the movie. She fought to have her character barefoot because
she knew was a woman. If you step in poop
or mud and flip flops, instinct is to take him off.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
That's dead ass, right though, Yeah, who would leave it on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Early in the film, Dave's truck's license plate says Matt
seven two five is seen out of the garage door
during the hurricane Matt seven to twenty five, and the
Bible reads, the rain came down, the steams, the streams rose,
and the winds blew and beat against the house. Yet
it did not fall because it had foundation on a rock.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
And I will lay upon you with furious anger.

Speaker 1 (01:50:40):
Was up, brother. No, that's that's a really great little
like little tipbit.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
The Burglars who robed the gas station are named Marv,
stan and Lee, which is a nod to Marvel creator
Stan Lee. Coincidentally, Sam Raimi, who produced this film, directed
three Spider Man films.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
When I heard Marv, I was like, oh, so a
home alone.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Yeah, the bandits when Hayley drives the storm with the
dog sitting in the passenger seat. The entire stages in
a water tank and consists of a town with wooden houses, gardens,
and a gas station, playground and a playground. This scene
was set inside of a stationary car against a blue screen.
The trainer lent a lean down in the back seat
to cue the dog to say seated outside of the car,
there was wind and rain, debris, leaves hitting the windows,

(01:51:18):
the dog action, oh my god, effects and the effects
were discussed in full before filming the scene. The dog's
exposure to the effects outside of the car was limited.
All loose materials on set were removed prior to the
wind machines being used. Strict safety controls were in place
for crew and animals entering the water tank. A minimum
of two divers were on set at all times. The

(01:51:40):
dogs had to be fully trained to swim, and training
videos were made available prior to filming for them.

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
The water was filtered throughout the day and was maintained
at a temperature of eighty four degrees fahrenheit. There were
predetermined dry safe areas allocated for the dogs to use
in the flooded area of each part. Eighty four degrees.
Eighty four degrees, that's what it set YEA twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
That's pretty. That's like bath water ryeah. Wow, that's that's impressive.
I mean, I wouldn't for.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
A long time, but that would be hot. I would
think after a.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
While too, not when that's almost body temperature.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
That's boy tips, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
Think, I mean, I think you would still end up
feeling cold, yeah, probably and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
The Blu ray for the film contains a motion comic
version for a planned alternate opening for the film, which
featured a family trying to escape the flood, only to
be attacked and killed by the alligators. Aja explained in
an introduction that this motion comic was created because the
filmmakers were unable to produce the opening and live action.
While they were unable to produce a live action version
of this alternate opening remains unknown.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
Probably budgetary, that's what I would. I mean, well, and
they probably were like, Okay, this is gonna cost us
like a half a million dollars to do the scene. Yeah,
because of all the effects and stuff, and does it
really feed the main point?

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Like, it's cool. I watched it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
I kind of like that. We don't when we don't
really get an idea of the alligator until it's really.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
Bad only five minutes in or so.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
I love that. Yeah, I actually so. I think that's
another reason is like having the allegories, can we know
they're coming? Yeah? So how having the alligators kind of
pop up right when we're at our most vulnerable. I
really that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Aja revealed that the dog Sugar was originally meant to die,
stating we were back and forth with the dogs should
sacrifice itself? Should the dog be fed to alligators to
save someone? Should the dog lose a part of its body?
He recalled, that's a bunch of horrifying ideas. At least
if the dog sacrifice itself, it would have been noble
to the end, But the idea of throwing sugar to
the alligators to save another person probably would have made
audiences turn on the protagonists. Yeah, it would have but

(01:53:27):
I think at the end of the at the end
that we chose not to do it because the interesting
part was to make people feel that the dog was
not going to make it for the whole movie, Aja said,
alluding to the fact that so much does go wrong
in Crawl that it's shocking the dog does make it
out at all. In all fairness, the reason we asked
in the first place. And yet there's one more reason
Sugar survives and Crawl also to keep him alive for
the sequel.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
Oh that's fun. No, I but I do agree, like
having the dog sacrifice itself to save its owners and
stuff would work pretty well. It would piss you off,
but yeah, but you would like get it, You get it.
But having the whole movie be you wondering when the
dog's gonna bite it, especially with Aja attached to what
you're kind of expecting, like no punch is pulled. Yeah,

(01:54:09):
I like that, you know. And like I said, this
is a overall for as intense as as it's kind
of a lighter movie. We don't really lose any major
main characters. We mostly lose every side character.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Yeah, every side character possible. Yeah, So the action scenes
draw heavily from Jurassic Park. The alligators are said to
have vision based on movement, just like the t Rex,
so at different times the protagonists can escape detection by
standing still. One main character has their arm bitten off,
and another has helped to safety while nursing a leg
wound bound with a tourniquet. One scene shows the main
characters freezing in fear whilst pointing a torch straight into

(01:54:40):
the eye of the antagonists reptile. The alligators are shown
to hunt in threes, with one distracting the front while
the other two swoop in from the sides. Just psycholociraptors.
I didn't that the main action takes place during a hurricane.

Speaker 4 (01:54:52):
Yeah? Was it a hurricane?

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
It wasn't a monsoon, No hurricane shit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Whether it is a coincidence or not, the movie we
show several similarities to producer Sam Raimi's film Evil Dead.
A tree breaks through a cabin window, there are fights
with monsters in the basement, There is a flood going
on that prevents the protagonists from leaving the area, and
one of them loses a part of their arm.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
That's funny. Yeah, that's like Evil Dead two a lot. Yeah,
that's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
And finally, in August twenty twenty four, Paramount greenlit a
sequel called Crawl two. I just set to return as director.
I know from script co written by Andrew Duschman and
Is Deutschmann and Jason Pagan.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
It's probably not Doucheman, even if it's like people named
kunts with a you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
So, what are your final thoughts on twenty nineteen Scrawl
What a blast?

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Yeah? Hell yeah, I mean, honestly, what a friggin blast.
The fact that this movie is sitting here free on
two B to be on Pluto.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Pluto.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
The fact that it's sitting free on Pluto, like if
you've seen it before, like if you saw it in
twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, put it on again, have
some fun. It's a perfect kind of summertime film too.
It really kind of hits, specially with all the rain
we've been getting, I mean in our area are yeah, well,
and with all the re and also but it's like
it's in Florida. It's it's got all that movie why

(01:56:08):
not as perfect as any other.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
It's gonna be a rented for me. This was with
a by at caveat because A it just did get
a really good four K from what I've heard. I'm
probably gonna pick that up at some point. But B
it's just you know exactly what you're getting when you
buy this movie, watch this movie, whatever it is in
that regard. You want a movie with killer alligators during
a hurricane, here you go.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
Yeah, it's definitely a rented like it's an own it
if you're you know, a Nutter who just loves the
shit exactly. But it's not. It doesn't reinvent the wheel,
but it gives you a really good time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
So we always like Then the show with a couple
of recommendations. The first one I have this week, No
Surprise at All, nineteen eighties Alligator, currently available on to
be Roku Prime, Peacock and Fowsome Pet Baby Alligator is
flushed down a toilet and survives in the city sewers.
Twelve years later, it grows to be an enormous size
thanks to a diet of discarded laboratory dogs injected with hormones.

(01:57:00):
Now humans have entered the menu.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
Man. Every time, I always forget how ridiculous that concept.
I love that movie now every time it's a ridiculous concept.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
That's a good concept. Second one I'm gonna do is
twenty twelve's Baits, currently available on Prime Plex, and Fowsome
a freak tsunami tra traps shoppers at a coastal Australian
supermarket inside the building, along with the twelve foot great
white sharks. This one is wild, yeah, and it's so
so good. And I'm gonna give a third one just
as a as a shout out, because this is one that,

(01:57:30):
like people talked about for a little bit, but I
think a lot of people forgotten about it. The Pool
from twenty eighteen, Oh yeah, and the band in six
meters deep pool. A couple is stranded there with a
deadly predator which turns out to be an alligator or crocodile,
can't remember which. But that movie is fun, really fun,
and also has a lot of sponsorship from Pizza Hut.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of Pizza Hut. It's a lot
of pizza in that movie. Well, my suggestion, which you
pretty much called what it would be, is twenty sixteen's
The Shallows.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
When it comes to shark movies, there are many options,
and so many of them have done very similar things.
You know, Jaws and Sharknado are literally the same movie. No,
there's a lot of options that are kind of the same.
And the shallows for those who don't know, the concept,
according to IMDb, is a mere two hundred yards from shore,

(01:58:22):
surfer Nancy is attacked by a great white shark, with
her short journey to safety becoming the ultimate contest of wills.
The idea of being so close to the beach but
you're stuck on like a reef basically, which by the way,
sucks to be on because they'll cut you up and everything. Yeah,
it's a great film. The tension is so so high

(01:58:43):
in the film. It really is like. It's an insanely entertaining,
engrossing film. It's currently on Amazon Prime with the membership
and stars to watch for free, or you could rent
it wherever, but I highly recommend that one is It
is just a masterclass like a simple, stressful horror film.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
You literally stay with a character who gets attacked by
a shark for the entire length of the movie. Yeah,
I mean you are with them from the go of
the rough.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
Love when I love when something is so simple, like
you're two hundred feet or whatever from the beach, and
then a shark can't hurt you, but you may as
well have to go to the moon. Yeah, because it's
so impossible. This is I'm not going to go on
a huge tirade or whatever. But in The Gray, there's

(01:59:32):
a scene where a guy drowns because his foot is
caught on the rock. Yeah, and he's less than a
foot away from from being above the water, but he
dies because with his foot caught the way it is,
and with how cold the water is, it's impossible to
get him out, so he drowns so close to the surface.
Every time I watch that movie, it makes me like
sick with anxiety because it's like, you're so close to

(01:59:54):
living and you don't get to That seems rough, and
the Shallows kind of plays on that. Obviously, it's a
little bit more advanced with two hundred yard from shore thing,
but the whole concept is great And I didn't even
realize until I was actually reading this right now. Blake
Lively stars in that. Yeah. Yeah, she's a star who
you know, went on to have a very big and
tumultuous career and possibly personal life. But we're not that

(02:00:15):
kind of show.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
We're not weird.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
But in the Shallows for twenty sixteen, like dear God,
watch it?

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Hell ya? Do we have any emails this week?

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:00:22):
Yeah, actually we have a lot. Oh so I'm just
gonna cough real quick because I I we got a
bunch man. Okay. So, by the way, if you guys
want to send us an email, please do so at
do you even movie Pod at gmail dot com. We
love to hear from you, whether it's a commentary on

(02:00:42):
what we've been showing or talking about, or if you
want us to watch something or yeah, send us the email.
Do you even movie Pod at gmail dot com? Yes,
this first one is from our buddy Maurice Awesome. The
subject is from a fan who's definitely not a personal friend.
Damn it. We've definitely never met before and have not
become close friends through Cinema Wasteland never. Now that I

(02:01:05):
have established we do not know each other, I wanted
to let you guys know how much I enjoyed the podcast.
It's a good escape for when things go sideways in life.
Things haven't been exactly awesome lately, and on March twenty first,
I suffered through the fifteenth anniversary of finding my father
dead in his home it's a pain that still lingers
and probably always will. One of his favorite movies was

(02:01:26):
Field of Dreams, a movie I have not been able
to bring myself to watch since he died. Now that
it's baseball season, I think it would be a good
movie to cover on your show sometime.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
It's one I've thought about. I'm a big Field of
Dreams fan, and I honestly have not revisited it in
probably a good six or seven years.

Speaker 4 (02:01:44):
I would friggin I would love no, I'd love to
so much to cover Field of Dreams.

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
Oh hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01:52):
I reference it all the time when I talk about
how hard it is to have a business, and I say,
if you build it, they will not come.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
They will not come.

Speaker 4 (02:01:57):
You've got to do a lot more. If you build
it and tell everyone you know you hope for a
six percent conversion rate.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
Yeah, I would say Field Dreams is absolutely When we
could do it, and especially for Beres, I'd be more
than happy to.

Speaker 4 (02:02:05):
I think so too. This next one's from our good
buddy Trank.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
Oh awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:02:10):
Yeah, hey guys, still loving the podcast. After hearing the
last one, I went home to have a Living Dead marathon.
By the way, I'm taking waffles. I'm taking waffle stamp
for a band named Lemeo. Was going through my search
list for old movies and came across a gem from
My childhood run Away from nineteen eighty four starring Tom.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Sellis selek In, Gene Simmons and uh Christy Aali. If
I'm correctly.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
Faces with Gene Simmons as the villain. Yep, it's a
great movie in my opinion. I would also like to
get your take on Me Familia nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
Man, I have not actually seen that. I've heard of it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:46):
I don't think I've seen that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
Yeah, I've heard of it, but I have not seen it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:48):
But i've You should write that one down because I'm
now you got me curious, and not just because it Spanish,
but from nineteen ninety five. It says, yeah, ninety five,
I found one in ninety that might that's probably it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
Then I have no idea. It's no, that's a TV series. Uh,
I'm spelling it wrong, am I am?

Speaker 4 (02:03:11):
I F A M I L I A. Oh well,
it's because it's under the title My Family. Wait, we've
seen My Family house Family with Jimmy Smith's as Si Morales,
Edward James Almos.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
No, this is new to me. I've seen this. I've
seen this poster before. But yeah, I've actually never seen
this movie.

Speaker 4 (02:03:31):
A man makes his way from Mexico to Los Angeles
in the nineteen twenties and gets married raises a big
family there. The movie follows the children until they get
married and start their own families in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
Yeah, this sounds right up, A Raley.

Speaker 4 (02:03:42):
I would love to watch this.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
Yeah, I'm all in.

Speaker 4 (02:03:44):
I've definitely seen this pox cover.

Speaker 1 (02:03:46):
I I have seen that. You look at the trailer.

Speaker 4 (02:03:49):
No, I well, no, I'm looking at no. I I well,
the trailer started to help. But no, I have seen
this because I own a digital copy. I clicked on
the Amazon thing.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
No, this movie's really okay, Well, I'm adding that to
my list.

Speaker 4 (02:04:03):
I'm not getting tears in my eyes remembering the film
at all.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
No, you're not not at all. You wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
I would love to talk about me familiar, Okay. I
would also like to get your take always, but it's
one of my favorites. Keep up the great work.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Thanks, thank you, sir, and thank you for turning us
on to that title. Because that's what I'm definitely gonna
put on the list.

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Oh, it's so quick, I'm fine. I'm fine. That didn't
We got some quite some emails. So this one's another
one from our our good buddy Mike Scuey.

Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
Oh, birdman, Birdman.

Speaker 4 (02:04:34):
The subject is a good distraction. Hey, hen and Dave,
it's been a while, but I wanted to reach out
and share some thoughts. I have had a rough few
weeks and been trapped inside since the beginning of March,
broken wheelchair and waiting on parts started going back to
old episodes I haven't listened to yet. When I could
get out and about, i'd listen to episodes and usually

(02:04:54):
end up putting stuff on my list to watch. Thanks
to my friendship of both of you, I have to
discovered the fun of letterboxed Yes and going back through
my backlogs, discovering how to use the app and maybe
figuring out how to develop lists and stuff. I often
check out whatever Dave is posting on there, and same
with our mutual friend ken yep. It's been fun to
see how much I have embraced movies since getting into

(02:05:16):
this podcast. I'd watch movies and enjoy them, but now
things are a little different and looking at them through
a different lens and perspective. Since I'm stuck inside waiting
for parts, I do have summer requests if you'll indulge me. Oh,
I know, I asked, but I'll ask again because boredom, motherfuckers, dungeons,
and dragons, any of them request that. Yeah, hackers the

(02:05:36):
gate one or two? Two might be more fun.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
Two might be more fun. Yeah, but one is fun too.

Speaker 4 (02:05:41):
Jesus making contact Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
He discovered making contact again recently.

Speaker 4 (02:05:47):
And this one you'll be happy about. Nobody. Oh, I
fucking love Nobody, which he put where better call Saul
Goes John Wick.

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
And one of the coolest ways possible to.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
We should cover that is when's this is equil coming out?
This year?

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Might be this year? Yeah, we should cover it.

Speaker 4 (02:06:02):
We should cover it right before before we do that.
Thank you both for being friends but also putting together
one of the most authentic and relatable podcasts. I'm glad
the world of podcasting brought us together as friends in
the best way possible. Also, I'm really glad I didn't
prank Dave with a yellow belt gag last year, as
I was probably gonna end up on a watch list
if I went all in on it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
He was talking about putting it in an evidence bag
and like blood staining it and everything and sending it
to us, and I was just like, that would have
been funny or it would have been like intercepted.

Speaker 4 (02:06:31):
Well consider you would have to go from Canada. Yeah, yeah,
but love you guys. Less than three Mike.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
Always good to hear from your bird man.

Speaker 4 (02:06:41):
Now this one. I don't know if we've heard from
this guy before. His name's Jacob. The subject says love
the podcast. Hey, guys, I started listening to your podcast
at the beginning of the year, and I've been really
enjoying it. I'm caught up all the way and I've
really been enjoying your thoughts and recommendations for all the
films you've covered and inspired me to watch movies I
haven't yet. I haven't seen yet. Romancing the Stone, Bad Moon,

(02:07:02):
Hard Rain, and Return a Living Dead have been my favorites.
Oh yeah, wow, we brought you to Return a Living Dead.
That's that's out there. I love movies and it's been
great to listen to a podcast by two guys that
feel the same. Your Banter and introductions are also great too.
It feels very natural. It's gotten more so as i've
as I've do you remember the time actually we may
have may have said that live on the air where

(02:07:24):
you were just like and now it's been like forty
minutes we talked about the movie, talked about the movie,
and I was like, Ah, they can find any fucking
the movie show that I stand by that. Yeah, I
love movies and it's been great to Oh wait, I
read that already. Sorry, thanks for keeping it going and
looking forward to many more episodes. Hell yeah, well I
will mention because I'm a son of a bitch that

(02:07:45):
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Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
Yes, sir, so, yeah we had.

Speaker 4 (02:08:26):
We had a lot of emails today.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Yeah, we did. Would you like to know what we
are talking about next week? Is April Showers comes to
a close?

Speaker 4 (02:08:34):
Hit me white Boy?

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Well, since it's coming to a close, I guess we
can just say that it can't rain all the time
because we are talking about Edward for long. We were
talking about No, we're not talking about the Crow week
in Prayer. We're talking about the Crow from nineteen ninety four.
And this is probably going to be a very loaded
episode because this movie is near and dear to my
fucking heart.

Speaker 4 (02:08:49):
And I hate it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:50):
You don't hate it, no, I have Actually you actually
not came around, but you just know.

Speaker 4 (02:08:55):
But I realized i'd seen it in the theater.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Yeah, which was very That was crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:08:58):
Yeah, well and it made perfect make sense. Yeah, and
that thought about it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
I'm sure we'll talk a little bit more about The
Crow twenty twenty four. I'm sure it'll come up on
the show a little bit, but it could. But we're
going to talk about the good one first.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
Wow, Hateful Day is hateful, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
The Crow nineteen ninety four currently available on Pluto TV.
There's also a beautiful four K that just came out,
and I mean you could rent it and buy it
anywhere you get your videos at right now, to you
digitally and or physical.

Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
Yeah, So next week we'll be talking all about the Crow. Yes,
So I guess that's about it? Is it? So everybody
out there please stay dry, Yeah, and stay away from
the business end of any alligators. I would say that
that would be ideal.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
That would be ideal.

Speaker 4 (02:09:41):
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a lot more of a fun experience and experiment. And
we do air the horror related shows on weekly Spooky,
which is a nice way to kind of, you know,
double dip and get more of an audience for those. Yeah,

(02:10:23):
but this show's a lot of fun for me. It's
been really wild seeing people be into it so intensely
because we don't have a ton of listeners. No, but
I am very surprised by how engaged the people who
are listening are. And I really do appreciate hearing from you, guys.
I really do appreciate the encouragement, the recommendations, and the emails.
The emails really make every episode sweeter. It really does,

(02:10:46):
except when you make me cry by reminding me about
me familiar or talking about it's.

Speaker 1 (02:10:51):
Okay, I might cry because uh, gutter Garbs just sent
me an email that Freddy's Dead shirts are a thing.

Speaker 4 (02:10:55):
Now, Oh well, your wallet will be for certain. Yeah,
thank god. All I do is buy cigars. So but
on that note, we're going to get out of here. Also,
if you're watching us on YouTube, leave a comment, will
always respond. Make sure you're subscribed over there. And I
guess it's time for us to get out of here.
You know what's funny, do you remember what you said

(02:11:16):
on the way to the movies? You were like, crawl,
I like it, but like a lot happens, but like
to talk about it. You're like, this could be a
short one.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
I didn't say a lot to talk about it. You
know what I mean, happened.

Speaker 4 (02:11:27):
That's worse saying not a lot happened. And it ended
up being a beefy episode.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
This is this is definitely a beef episode.

Speaker 4 (02:11:34):
Well it will never compare to Beefy Boy, but it's
pretty good. So uh until next time, my friends, all
of you stay safe out there, yes and bring an
umbrella and we will see you you next. Flavor Town,
Shottown Chop

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