MacGruber (2010) Val Kilmer, Nuclear Mayhem & Raunchy Comedy Gold

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Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know about the Titanic PCP incident with the clam
chowder and.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
I read a little bit about it when you were
talking about it.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I was just blown away by the fact that, like
I've a have been such a huge fan of Titanic
most of my life, but be that as many interviews
as I've watched as Paxton over the years, because anytime
Paxston does an interview, I'll usually watch it because he's
really interested. Dude, but was rest in peace? But hearing
him tell Larry King that story was pretty insane, And

(03:50):
I mean, if for those who aren't aware of it,
there was a incident on a shooting day of Titanic
where none of the main cast were there, So like
Leo DiCaprio, Kate Winslet, they were not there. But it
was Cameron, it was Bill Paxton, it was some of
the other side characters and then a bunch of crew
people and apparently at some point in the lunch PCP

(04:11):
got mixed into the clam chowder.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
It happens so huge Hollywood movie, No.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
One's No, one has never come forward, No one has
ever admitted to it.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
And we're sure he didn't just tell that story to
see if Larry King was awake.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
No, no, because he's not the only one that's been
recorded and seen telling that story. Because basically from what
I understand from his version of it, because Cameron also
has a version of it too, but from his version,
they'd gotten through lunch, both of them had a little
bit of clam chowder, and one of the set pas
come up to them and was just like, hey, did
you guys eat the clam chowder? And Bill was like, well, yeah,

(04:46):
I had a little bit, and Jim was like yeah,
I had a bowl. And he's like, okay, just watch yourselves.
There might be something going on with it. And then
word got that people were starting to freak out. There
was a bunch of singing going around on some of
the set. People like locked themselves in an office and
started like doing like a roller coaster thing. Apparently Bill

(05:07):
Paxton got into his weed bag that he had on
set with him and smoked a little bit on top
of it. I think where did they shoot it? I
can't remember. Actually, he said, where'd you say? This part happened,
I don't think, I said, let me check though, hang on,
let's see Halifax Nova Scotia. I thought that was it. Yeah. Yeah,
So PCP got into the clam chowder on the set

(05:30):
of Titanic one day and apparently just chaos erupted. And
my first time hearing this story, I was just like,
we just got that movie Saturday Night all about Saturday
Night Live. I want a movie on this my question?

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, I mean I have a lot. Yeah. Was anyone
like medically confirmed to be on PCP?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
So let's see, uh rue, Okay. We had a room
full of for grips and electricians. One of the guys
started talking really hyper. He's a big guy, like six
four and says, do you guys feel Okay, let's see.
Bill Paxton was a real sweetie. He was sitting next
to me in the hallway of the hospital. They went
to the hospital. It looks like, okay, here we go.
Many crew members were sent to Dartmouth General Hospital. Cameron

(06:13):
recalled the incident in two thousand and nine interview of
Vandy Ferri, saying people are moaning, crying, Whaling collapsed on
tables and gurneys. The DP. Caleb da Chanel is leading
a number of crew down the hall on a highly
vocal conga line. You can't make the stuff up, is
what he says.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
I mean, I do think you can make can make
I'm not saying they did, though, But that's see. If
it were a drug that I would assume would be
on a movie set, yeah it would. I would have
less questions. Yeah, if it were speed or cocaine, I
would be like, oh wow, But like, how do you

(06:49):
get PCP? And you said clam chowder?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It says all hell broke loose August ninth, nineteen ninety
six on the film set in Halifax, Nova Scotia, when
Craft Services provided clam chowder that happened to be spiked
with the drug.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Halifax happened to be.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Halifax was where Cameron filmed the Titanic framing device scenes
featuring Bill Paxon is the leader of an expedition that
discovers Rose's necklace. So it was so it was with
that side of the of the production, So it wasn't
like on the major ship. But I just Variety covered
the story. Yeah yeah, no, Variety, you know covered it,

(07:23):
CBC covered it, Global News covered it. Business Insider covered it. Uh,
let's see the Guardian.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
So apparently there are theories, okay that I found by
using Google, which means, you know, hey, Gemini, you're trying
your best theories on how it happened. Disgruntled crew member
or caterer.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I can see that.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
This is the most widely discussed theory. According to James Cameron,
the director, they had fired a crew member the day
before the incident who had been causing trouble with the caterers.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's a hell of a way to get back at them.
I love it.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
It's like, well, you know, if he was like a
problems crew person, I guess that could be because they
were fucking using angel dust.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
On August twenty six, nineteen eety six, the Canadian Press
reported that nearly eighty people were taken to the hospital
from the set of Titanic for what was initially thought
to be food poisoning. However, the Halifax Regial Police investigated
the incident and found that someone had laced the seafood
chowder with PCP.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
So I'm looking at this, I want I want to
I want to fully understand this because I don't have
any interesting anecdotes that my ear is still somewhat painful.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's okay, I can't prepare to talk about this today.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
So this theory suggests that the crew member seeking revenge
deliberately poison the claim chowder as a way to retaliate
against the caterers and potentially disrupt production. However, the fired
employee was not seen back on set after their dismissal,
making it difficult understand how they could have accessed the
catering kitchen. Another theory is prank gone wrong. PCP was
known to be used recreationally, and some speculate that someone

(08:52):
intended to create a fun atmosphere but misjudged the dosage
and the effects of the drug. However, nobody has ever
claimed responsible ability for the prank, and no traces of
PCP were found on anyone present on the set.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Hmm, that does sound like a disgruntled so The Vice
in twenty seventeen interviewed Marilyn McAvoy, who was a standby
painter on set, and she says the chowder was unbelievable.
People were going back for second bulls. I really thought
about going back because it was so good, and I
think that was part of the problem. People ate a
lot more than usual because it was so delicious. There
was no indication that there was anything strange happening until

(09:25):
the meal. By the time we got back from eating,
after about thirty minutes, that's when I started noticing something
was wrong. Everyone seemed confused. Everyone was having trouble getting
their work done. While I was trying to figure out
what was going on, everyone else seemed to be going outside.
They were all gathering outside of the giant doors of
the building we were working on. I also heard later
on that as Camp. As soon as Cameron realized something
had been put in the chowder, he ran up to

(09:46):
his room and forced himself to throw up.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Hmmm, So there is no evidence that PCP was on
the set as far as I can tell, Like, nobody tested,
did a drug test or anything. Yeah, but then my
question becomes, who said we're on PCP.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, I'm seeing a newspaper clipping that says Titanic Mystery
who spiked the chowder? From nineteen ninety eight newspaper. Some
disagreement exists over the exact number of people who were
sticking on the type of chowder that was lace a PCP. So, yeah,
it doesn't say in regards to anything of confirmation of PCP.
I'm on Snopes right now.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
By the way, I'm just curious because, like what made
them decide that it was PCP.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I do not know.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
One big thing the police pointed out was PCP was
not common in that part of Canada, but is very
common in Hollywood. But I mean, I don'ver hear people.
I mean, I know PCP can cause euphoria, calmnless, lethargy, hallucinations, yeah, agitation.
It must be fun because some people take it for fun.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But doesn't say I like, this is a very fun thing. No.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, I'm just curious because like if somebody got it
in their head that they had been poisoned with PCP,
it could have been some kind of a mass hysteria.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
All I'm saying is, whoever works at Netflix Hulu and
is listening to this podcast right now, You've got a
great movie here that you call Abandoned Ship, the story
of the Titanic PCP incident, or something along those lines,
because this is a story that needs to be told
through film.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Just saying, see, I'm reading an interview with Cameron he said,
we have a pretty strong suspicion of who it was, although.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
It was never proved ever. Yeah, confirmed, We believe the
story is.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
That somebody who had a beef with the caterers, because
the first thing we did was fire the caterers, and
you know, sure enough we had some leads on that.
Of course, the operating theory was that I was such
a psychomaniac that the perpetrator was trying to get back
at me. But I reject that theory out of hand
for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Hm. They officially closed the case on February twelfth of
ninety nine, though a ten page report that included redacted
statements was assembled, no suspects were identified by the Halifax
Police Department. Decades later, however, the incident resurface thanks to
the efforts of Tricia Ralph.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Hmmm, yeah, this is a I mean, this is a fascinating,
bizarre concept that they were drugged with PCP of all things. Yeah,
I just would expect and just about any other driver.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, that's what I would think too. That's why. That's
why when I when I saw Packson's interview for the
first time, I was like, holy shit, like I'd never
I was just shocked that this this only came into
my ear drums in the last I don't know month
I think is when I found found this out.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
I am I can't lie on it is even on
the Wikipedia like or like the IMDb trivia page.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Probably on the trivia I don't know about Wikipedia. Let
me check though. No, I'm curious.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Think it's PCP pre productions, Like that's a hell of
a way to poison people, because I mean, I've heard
bad claim can do awful things to you.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So it doesn't have a content section for like incident
or anything like that that I'm.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Saying, Yeah, this is a this is a strange one's.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Trivia checking other media like sy Yeah, it's not on
the official Titanic page. That's so strange, man. But I
mean we're talking The article, like I said, dated back
in like twenty seventeen, so I mean they've been talking
about this for a bit.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
It's not on the Titanic IMDb trivia either.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I'm shocked at that. What a hecks can bad clams
cause on those who eat. The most recent article that
I can find is Vulture's article from twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Two nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, and severe cases it
can cause more serious issues.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh a colliders did one last year. So yeah, it
looks like the stories coming back. Well, yeah, it's fascinating.
Oh yeah it is. Uh.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I was just trying to see if there was any
like possibility you could have like hallucinations, because that's.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I mean, that's entirely possible. I would think that.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I don't know, it's just it's just interesting to me
that I can't find any evidence that somebody was tested
and they were like a PCP. So I'm like, well,
then where did the idea that it was PCP come from?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I mean, that's all it says in all the stories too,
So yeah, it's definitely the drug.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oh, I mean this is you know, oh uh, there's
literally an illness called hallucinatory fish.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Poisoning that does surprise me.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Where in some cases people who eat shellfish, if it's
not the right shellfish can cause hallucinations, dizziness, vomiting, weakness.
I don't know, because I I just yeah, it's just
such an odd why would it be. Why would why
would somebody dump PCP in.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I mean, if they took eighty people to Dartmouth, you
would think they would have tested for something and if
they could have at that point.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yes, although they may have been like why bother because
it's you know, like we're treating the symptoms already.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
It just made me wonder if like maybe everybody kind
of unintentionally decided it was much more interesting that they've
been poisoned, and you know, if the caterers were like, oh,
somebody must have messed with the clam chowder, It's like,
I mean, nobody tested the clam chowder.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Are there any other stories that you can think of,
like set poisonings like to this level, because like this
is the only one that I can recall.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
I mean I've heard of, like without any example, like
specific examples. I've heard of, you know, like people getting
you know, LSD unexpectedly on that unlike smaller movies.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Have you heard the one about I think it was
on the set of Twins that de Vito gave Schwarzenegger
a cigar that was filled with marijuana dough. That happened.
Did Arnold die? No, he was, he just got very high.
There's okay, I'm just telling you, I know, I know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
But all I'm saying is, if you were given a
legitimate cigar because smell it, Arnold, Well, well, or at
the very least your first puff, Yeah, you would be
like what on earth? Because here's the reason I think
that sounds like bunk okay, And I could be wrong.
I'm just talking based on the basics. Arnold is a
cigar man. He is a afficionado of smoking premium hand.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Rolls shared the story on The Rich Eisend Show. Who
did Arnold?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Because number One, you don't inhale cigars, So I mean, yeah,
you would probably eventually if you puffed and puffed and puffed.
But tobacco doesn't smell like at all.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, it does not.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
And considering Arnold smoked some of the most expensive cigars
on Earth in his life, you'd think you'd take one
puff and be like, what is wrong with this? Did
your cat piss on your Huma door?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, to add to that, the reason I know that
story is because Schwarzenegger, on the set of the Twin sequel,
gave Divido a cigar that was full of marijuana. And
you see the video of it. Divino smells it right
away and knows.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
So weird it just it just sounds like it just
sounds like a like a joke like it doesn't I mean,
it doesn't sound real, because like, why would you smoke
a cigar that smelled like marijuana after you lit it?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Divino, while filming the movie Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger, reportedly
put marijuana in Schwarzenegger's cigar without him knowing. As a result,
Schwarzenegger allegedly allegedly got very high and had trouble remembering
his lines during filming. Divito described Schwarzenegger as being off
the charts due to the marijuana. Years later, Schwarzenegger tried
to prank Divido by giving him a cigar with marijuana
in it, but DeVito apparently smelled it out, which you

(17:41):
can see on the video.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Well, according to this it was laced, is what they're saying,
which I don't even know how you would lace a
premium cigar. But also Arnold was, at least in his
younger years, he was a very pro marijuana guy. I mean,
he smokeswed in pumping iron iron yeah, and says that
it was like his thing that really helped him relax

(18:02):
after you know, training really hard. And also I think
I think he also claimed it helped his appetite because
he had to eat like crazy to maintain that kind
of bolk.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Curious when that story came about.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
So, yeah, that's just a very strange thing. I just
don't know how you would fall for it. And then
for Devido to get a cigar and smell it immediately go,
there's marijuana in there. Arnold should have been able to
smell the same thing, I would think. I don't know.
The other problem is these are people who lie for
a living.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh yeah, I mean, well that's the thing, but I
get just it's one of those things that it's just
like when I saw that video and he smelled it
out immediately, that was like my major thing. I was
just like, how could he not smell it? Because I mean,
like it has a very distinct smell to Yeah, it
would ruin Yeah, yeah, it would ruin the experience you get.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Plus if you're not inhaling, but it's only like a
trace amount, then I feel like it wouldn't have that
big of an effect.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I would assume, I would think.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
But I don't know. That one just sounds because it's
also kind of silly. Yeah, that one sounds more like
it could be just kind of like something or de
Vido obtained a cigar laced with marijuana, like to be
nice to Schwarzenegger could be and then Schwarzenegger like because
it caused him problems on the set, they kind of

(19:15):
turned it into like this, haha. It was like a
ribbing thing because Arnold didn't want to look silly.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
What I forgot about the that I found another poisoning
that I forgot about it. You know, there's there's a
huge food poisoning on Raised Lost Art.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Oh yeah, I'm not surprised that there would be food
poisoning on some of these movies because you know, catering,
they're human. They have to make a lot of food
for a lot of people, and sometimes in really anopportune places,
be out in the desert or what have you. So
I don't know, it just sounds a little too. The
PCP one. I just don't know why everybody's saying PCP.

(19:49):
It doesn't sound like.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was everyone's saying it.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, So that one, I don't know, but you who know,
it could be that like one of the crew people
was like, I've done a bunch of PCP and this
is PCP. And then they didn't want to like out
their grip as saying like that he was a you know,
an angel dust head. I don't know, and in that
time of the nineties, angel dust was a lot more
popular than it is now.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, I just found an article top twelve from food
Poisoning Accidental on Movies. I'm not going to read it now,
but I'll read that later. But that looks like Predator
was even one of them too well, and death fateel
on the Green Night.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean, at least something interesting happened on that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I was waiting for. Thank you, Yeah, no problem, I
got you. No, that's yeah, that's that's a weird one.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Sometimes I hear set stories that just don't make logical sense,
Like last week when we were talking about Carrie and
they said that they did this very dangerous stunt with
a with the actual actress and that it hadn't been tested.
I was like, that doesn't make any sense, Like it
was it was a smaller movie, but it wasn't a
no budget movie. They had stunt coordinators and stuff. I

(20:59):
think that some times it's a miscommunication, like like like
she probably told somebody like it was untested, as in
she wasn't the one the one like she watched other
people do it, but when they rolled camera was the
first time she'd done it. And I believe that. Yeah, so,
but uh, but I don't know. It's funny because yeah,
you hear these stories sometimes and they just don't quite

(21:21):
add up in the real world. But see, the reason
with the marijuana cigar thing is because as a cigar smoker,
and I've been one now, it's it's startling because it
still feels somewhat new. It does still, but it's been
like almost six years since I had since I started
smoking cigars somewhat seriously.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I remember it was right before like COVID. We we
both kind of you got I mean you got into
it first, obviously, but we both kind of got back
into it right before COVID because one of the things
I asked you was to send me links so I
could buy my own. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah, well you were you were. You know, you had
a casual relationship with cigars. You know, you'd smoked ones, whatever,
and you had your major mistakes and mean whatever, no, no,
but I mean I'm not trying to pick up that's
part of it.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well, because the big dichotomy between us would be that
I had never had a cigarette, I'd never had marijuana.
I'd never had any of those things.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So when I go to puff a cigar, I'm like,
how do I smoke this? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:13):
And it's like, oh, you you hold the smoke in
your mouth. You don't inhale. So I'd like cool, because
I really don't want to inhale smoke. That's actually what
got me to smoke My first cigar was when I
found out you don't inhale it.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I was like, oh, that sounds okay. Well, because I
still remember the first one you and I spoke together
was Deep Rising because we had finished what production was
a boggy Boggy Yeah. Yeah, we finished Boggie and we
got cigars and watched Deep Rising.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
I wonder what those cigars were.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I think they were Romeo Hoo Romeo they were.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
They were Churchill Side. I remember that because you you
went and got big ones. I got them, Yeah, and
I got them right smoke shut down the block.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
So but no.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
So having smoked cigars for a while now, and I
got really and it became my main hobby. Hearing the like,
oh it was the cigar, but it actually had marijuana,
and they got all high. That just sounds like something
somebody who doesn't know anything about cigars would say, because
to some people it's just a really big cigarette kind
of who they think it is.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Kind of like that guy that tried to brag at
my birthday party the one time about smoking Cubans and
then you had to put his ass under the table.
I was being he just he couldn't stop.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Well, he was full of crap and he was like,
I really like cigars, You've had these Cubans. Then he
told like some weird story about like smoking him on
the beach of Cuba or something like that. No, it
was like it was like the Caribbean or something on vacation.
But he was talking about like the guy at the
shop was like, Oh, no, you can't use a cutter,
use a punch. And I'm like, first of all, that
doesn't make any sense because like everybody uses cutters and

(23:32):
in Cuba they usually cut them with their thumbnail or
they Oh that's totally part. I mean, I guarantee whatever
he smoked there wasn't actual Cuban star. I would I
wold pretty much guarantee it because it's really bad in
the Caribbean, Like there are tricks that you're supposed to do,
like you're supposed to look for the the sticker for
the import and ship like that. And they don't recommend

(23:53):
buying individuals. And if you do buy, you want to
buy from like a real place, not like a guy
with a little shop, but that and those are the
places that are like pull you in and be like
you want to cuban cigar and cub a cigar. So
I don't know it just it just reeks of like
I have questions and I can't find any answers. Now,
the PCP thing, who knows, you know, really like who knows?

(24:16):
It just seems so odd, like of all the things
you could poison the set.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
With, especially if it's not native to the place.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Well or if it would be hard to get I
mean unless you were just a PCP user, which could
have led to why that person got fired. But even then,
like would you give up that?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
That's a lot of it's to make people that sick
when they're eating chowder. I mean people put, you know,
edibles and candies all the time. They're going to give
away their edibles for treat every year.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
I mean, you know, in the rich areas maybe, but
but that's that's that's why it strikes me as a
little odd that it's so specific, even though there's no
details other than that everybody was poisoned.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, for sure, because they already single stories as PCP,
so it had to come from somewhere.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
I mean, I think it came in part from the
fact that makes it a much more interesting story. It does,
because they could have just had like the worst food
poisoning ever. Entirely, they're eating food that's probably not normal
to them.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
See. For for them to come up on to them
on set though and be like the the soup's been
drugged was something I feel like something was said but
just never actually confirmed.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
It just makes me, yeah, you might be right, yeah,
because it just makes me wonder like, why why PCP.
Why not you know, Volume or Xanax or you know,
something that people just bumped.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I mean, they also beat Gaspernov's film Climax to the story,
you know, about twenty years ahead of its time.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
That's funn they did well said, no, no, that's fair. No,
I just it's just an odd, an odd story. That's fascinating.
Oh yeah, I have no doubt that everybody got very
very ill.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I just I just want a movie. I I don't
know why. When I heard that story, I just wanted
to see, like the guy that did a stupid, a
stupid and futile gesture, like I would love for somebody
like that to get in the realm of this story
and give us like a Netflix, Hulu original or.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Something like It's I could see that there was also
something else I wanted to mention real quick, and then
we'll get to our movie. And eating shellfish make you hallucinate.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Sure it can, no, no.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
I I accidentally closed that page because it said something
that was really interesting about like a hallucinating from eating shellfish,
because it called one of the versions was like HCP
or something, which made me wonder if maybe there was
a breakdown in communication, because I could have sworn there's

(26:33):
something that said like CP, like something CP. So I'm
just like, I don't know, oh yeah, so not quite.
But a neurotoxic shellfish poisoning is called NSP, diuretic shellfish
poison is called DSP, and paralytic shellfish poison is called PSP.
So part of me is wondering if like somebody told them.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Or a typo somebody could read their handwriting well, or they.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Were like, I don't know how many people are French
out in Nova Scotia, But I don't know. It's it's
a weird thing, but it's much more interesting than we
ate a bunch of bad clams.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, yeah, I will give you that.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
But but regardless of all of that, let's talk about
something more wholesome.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
More wholesome, more sane.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Yeah, but I do want to real quick celebrate man
Final Destination Bloodlines, kicking ass, taking names. I'm really happy
to hear that. I love seeing all the love about
Tony Todd's final role in it. I love everything about it.
It's gotten me to revisit the other Final Destination movies
as well.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Did you see the fun trivia that came out over
the weekend about it the kid or the guy that
stole the movie? Basically that had all the piercings.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Oh yeah, he was in uh as the kid in
the Vampire. That's funny, Yeah it is. That's it's funny
how that works out.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is so No.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I really enjoyed Bloodlines, and I rewatched Final Destination two
last night, really enjoyed it. I'm gonna revisit three and
four and five over the next week or so. Maybe yeah,
because I have. I've been really bad about fatigue on
like deciding what to watch. So last night I was
skimming through everything like I do when I don't know

(28:16):
what to watch and I don't want to commit.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
That's the worst part is like I'll.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Be like, the worst part is I'll be like, oh,
I want to watch this new Blu Ray I got,
and I'm like, ah, but you know that's gonna take
like an hour and a half and I really want
to watch it. And then I'm like, oh, well, then
I'll look for other something that's been twenty five minutes
looking for something else and be like, you know, you
could have just put it in.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I literally put on BoJack Horseman last night only for
it to get to the intro and me'd be like, eh,
I'm not feeling Then I went to like Hulu, got
on Bob's Burgers a little bit same thing, and then
I finally just ended up watching YouTube.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
I mean, that's the last bastion of hope of entertainment.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I've been watching PS two games that I used to
they used to play as a kid, like a lot
of the bond Ones, like Complete Walk throughs or like
playthroughs of those. That's that's been my go.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
To thinking about your thinking about your your mortality.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Mortality.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey man, I think I'm doing great consider I'm still
dealing with his ear infection.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
A lot. Well.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
I was whacked out on pain medicine last show, and
it's obvious to me anyway. I don't nobody said anything yet,
but it just came. I felt it. I mean, I
was watching. The best part was David. You guys probably
have noticed not a good guy, no, no, but you
have a very basy voice. You have a base forward voice,

(29:25):
and on the show often you talk very loud. And
I actually one of the reasons I wear headphones when
we do the show. Usually I can't. I can't wear
my ear I can't wear them right now. I'm not
It'll make things worse, so I'm not. But it was
because I noticed you were actually quieter, like it was
cutting down a little bit, especially on those days like

(29:47):
when we were doing Freddy's back in the day, when
we're doing our own show, those days where I wasn't
feeling very good, I'd be like, my god, David's loud,
and I would just like, you know, turned my headphones down.
Not your fault, you're just talking. But last week because
my ear hurt, the thing I was trying to do
the most was not WinCE when you first start like
started like talking. Toward the end of the show, Oh

(30:07):
it's heavy, Well, well I was hurting even more so. No,
there were like a few times I was when I
was going through to pick clips for TikTok and stuff
where you'd be like and uh and I could see
me go mm hmm, because I was like, ah, the
last thing, the last thing. It needs to make everybody
think I hate Dave Moore.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
My favorite thing is, if anybody hasn't watched last week's
episode yet, go to the portion where I introduced Stephen
King and watch Hen's eyes almost bug out of his
head when I talked super fast and super loud, real quick.
You were I've never heard you talk that fast in
my entire life. Because I had a lot of titles
to get through, yeah, you did so.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
But regardless of all of that, Yes, David brought me
a movie for our final episode on May They May,
May They Rest in And I had never seen this movie.
I had never seen a clip from this movie. I
probably heard you quote it once or twice, but I
didn't know what you were referring to.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Guarantee it.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
And I will say to two thy and ten mcgruber
that every time I saw the cover, yeah, I was like, no,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yah, it's a bad cover. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
And and nothing against the movie. It's just the cover. Yeah,
the cover looks silly. It's just it's just Will Forte
before he was really really like beloved. Oh he is
now and he earned it, I mean rightfully so beloved
before he was beloved. He's just got the silly wig on.
It's got that like that like over glossy comedy poster
and thing, and it said Saturday Night Live, yeah on it.

(31:33):
That's a lot working against you, it is, it is.
Unfortunately we were talking about earlier how SNL movies. There
are so many of them, and they're so quickly forgotten,
but there are some that became just absolute classics.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Oh yeah, I mean and forgotten titles would probably include
movies such as Superstar, It's Pat the Movie, The Ladies
Man Movie, Stuart Saves his Family, See What's the Other
One Night? The Roxbury is Still Pretty Love, Blues Brothers
Still Pretty Love.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, I think those are really the mains well, and
and a lot of the ones that are really huge.
People forget their SNL movies like, yeah, not Wayne' World's
much of a Blues Brothers. I always forget that's an
SNL movie, and the first one technically, but yeah. Then
you end up with movies like Wayne's World and Coneheads,
which are just like truly incredible film.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, Wayne's World past episode.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
I mean I love Wayness World and Wayness World too,
They're both great. Yeah, but uh, Coneheads is one that
I still think like, wow. Actually, you know what's funny though, is,
as I say, like what the classics were, I'm looking
at a list by release date, it's just the first
four and then everything else is like it's Pat Stewart
saves his family, Blues Brother two thousand Night at the
Roxbury Superstar, The Ladies Man in mcgroober.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I remember Ladies Man. You could not escape that movie
on Comedy Central back in the day they played that incessible.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Well I managed to, but no, so so nothing again,
nothing against mcgruber, but it just really looked like the
kind of movie I would skip. So I did now
as time went on, As like I said, as Will
Forte became very beloved because he's a very funny actor
and a very talented actor. I got curious and you
would always talk about it.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I brought it over for movie nights several times.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, and I was like, nah, so so you decided
to put it on here because we're celebrating it. Were
celebrating the life and career of Val Kilmer. Yah, who
plays the bad guy in the Grub. He does does
a great job, probably one of the last movies where
he was like full steam, you know, before he got
sick and stuff like that. So an interesting choice for

(33:33):
an interesting.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Movie it is. I mean, I'll go ahead and say
at the top of a top of us discussing the
actual film that it was. It was between this and
Batman Forever. And the only reason that I backed out
of Batman Forever is because I didn't want that a
to be the first Batman movie on this show. But
b he had such a terrible time making that movie
that it just kind of felt wrong to pick that
as the movie to honor him with.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, I figured you didn't want to do Batman Forever
because you would inevitable put it on the show anyway.
Oh yeah, you were like We're gonna get to it anyway,
so we don't need an excuse. There were several movies
that we were gonna do and it was like, we
don't need an excuse to talk about those movies. I mean,
we didn't really need excuse to talk about Kerry.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
But no Fit. Well, yeah, I mean carry was a
listener's request too.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Oh right right, yeah, So with that all being said, Dave,
do you want to give the rundown of tonight's film?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
All right, so we are talking about MacGruber from twenty
ten one hour and thirty minutes, Rated R for strong
crude and sexual content, violence, language, and some nudity. I'MDB
synopsis says, former Special operative Mcgruober is called back into
action to take down his arch enemy, Dieter von Kunth,
who is in possession of a nuclear warhead and bent

(34:40):
on destroying Washington, d C. And that's coun conths my synopsis.
When his arch enemy Dieter von Kunth steals a nuclear warhead,
former Special Ops agent Macgroober must come out of hiding
and form a team to stop him. Now pretty solid,
there is only one tagline, and one tagline only, and
it only needs one. Pretty per Okay, the Ultimate Tool.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, that's solid. No, it's perfect. I mean, like, yes,
you're done. Mcgruber is without a doubt, The Guy is
the Ultimate.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Tool, currently available to rent through Prime and Fandango, not
streaming anywhere, even though Peacock has the original series, which
still kind of baffles me. They don't have the movie, but.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Maybe it did a strange choice.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, they they might have had it when it first
from here to me, we're talking about a series that
came out in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Well it was also, Oh I can tell you why
that's a Universal movie.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah, it was made by Rogue Pictures, Relativity Media, Michael's Goldwyn.
You know, they're they're team up. But it was distributed
by a Universal so that's probably why it's not on there.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So our director and one of the riders on the
film is Jorma to Coney. He gets his start as
the Lonely Island Just Two Guys music video, to which
he then gets a job at SNL and O five
creates Awesome Town, goes on to direct and wright I'm
on a Boat. Mcgruber. In twenty ten, pop Star Never
Stopped Never Stopping in twenty sixteen and just hit Netflix again. Yeah,

(36:00):
mcgooverer TV series in twenty twenty one, and he's also
the director of the mcgroober PEPSI zero commercials, as well
as an episode of Knuckles, the New Sonica show. Oh yeah,
and is it we should mention?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
I mean we kind of said it, but mcgroober was
an SNL skit, which yeah, was after my time watching SNL,
so I never saw a single mcgrooverer skit.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, it was. They were anywhere between thirty seconds to
like ninety seconds long basically, and they were little pop
ups on SNL at first, and it was basically mcgroober
trying to diffuse a bomb but failing every time because
he would always ask for something really gross, like one
of the first episode he asked for a dog turn
and none of his team will pick it up, so
that's why the bomb goes off. So basically, the basis
of mcgooverer was a mcguiver knockoff that was terrible at

(36:41):
diffusing bombs, and that was the joke. It became a
thing on SNL just by them pitching it, and then
Will Forte finally agreed to do it, and then it
became a big hit on SNL, to the point that
Lorne Michaels went to Pepsi Zero because they were doing
a new brand of Pepsi zero sugar, and he was like,
what do you think about doing MacGruber And they like, ah,
we're not really into it. And he's like, what if

(37:02):
I pay some of it? And they're like, okay, yeah,
we'll do it, and then they end up being a
Super Bowl commercial that made Boku And then that's when
Lauren was like, what if we did a movie?

Speaker 5 (37:11):
I still can't believe that. In the two thousands they
were doing a mcgiver parody the original mcgiver series. I
just looked it up. Do you want to guess when
it ended.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
It's eighty seven, right, No, that's when it around. When it started.
When it started, it ran for a long timety four
ninety two nty two, so you're out born, so it
was off.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
There wasn't a new episode for over ten years. It
was very popular in syndication, so I'll give it that.
But by twenty ten it's like, really.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I mean, it's the it's the famous why now why now? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (37:45):
And that's that's that's the thing that Fasci me that.
The other part is when mcgruber came out. I grew
up when mcgiver was always on. I didn't realize it
was a parody of mcgiver. And then when I had
the thought, I was like, now, why would they do that?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
That was literally my thought, and it happened out in
the livingroom. Little bi go too.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
For those who don't know who what Macguiver was, it
was a TV series from nineteen eighty six to nineteen
or to yeah, nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Two, and it was a it was a oh it.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Was shot in Canada, Canadian shows, right, Yeah, it was
a TV series starring Richard Dean Anderson as mcguiver. This
I'm not even gonna look out. I'm just gonna go
off my memory. He plays like some kind of a
law enforcement guy.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
He was also a grouper's dad. I forgot about that
in one of the sketches. Oh really, yeah, that's kinda
did that. They did kind of do a thing with that.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
So, but he was just this cop with a mullet basically,
and his big thing was that every week he would
improvise a tool or a weapon or whatever to solve
the problem. Going on to the point where it became
a verb. I mcguivered a blank you know, uh yeah, yeah.
I checked into my hotel room and the remote controls

(38:56):
batteries were dead, so I mcguivered some batteries from stuff
in my bag watching TV, you know, that kind of thing.
So it was massively in the nomenclature, it was massively
in the culture. So I guess I could see why.
Still seems it's a reach.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It seems like an odd choice. It's a odd choice.
It's a reach.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
But when you mentioned that it was like a sixty
second quick gag, Yeah, that makes me think, like, Okay,
I can see why they took a chance with it. Yeah,
And I mean clearly, I hate to spoil it, but
I couldn't help but see the box office people must
have really loved it because they did not go see it.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
We'll get into that. So the other writer on it
is John Solomon. He gets to start on SNL in
two thousand and six as a writer, goes on to
write Extreme Movie in two thousand and eight, mcgruber in
twenty ten, The Women of SNL in twenty ten, Last
Man on Earth, which he is a director of in
twenty fifteen.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Oh yeah, because I love that show, at least the
first two or three seasons I watched. I really loved it,
and that was where I first realized Will Forte was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Oh yeah. He also writes so the twenty eighteen MTV
Movie Awards, seventieth Primetime Emmy Awards, twenty nineteen Golden Globes
ap Bio Blessed the Heart Macgruober TV series, which he
directs in twenty twenty one. I think you should leave
with Tim Robinson in twenty twenty three. So the man's
got his stick in comedy and he made Extreme Movie.
You said, yeah, I love Extreme Movie. Yeah, I could see.
I could see a lot of influence. Yeah, a little bit.

(40:13):
Other writer is Will Forte, who will get into in
a second. We get to the cast, but the cinematographer
buckle the fuck up. I Will Brandon Troust is the
cinematographer on this. That name sounds really familiar. Gets his
start in two thousand and four shooting a little film
called Lightning Bug. I remember Lightning Bug. Then goes on
to do Demon Slayer in four as well, The Salon
in five, shoots Fangoria, Blood Drive in five, Static X

(40:35):
Destroyer video he was a quiet man Broken Glass in
this moment music video for Beautiful Tragedy, Pulse two, After
Life in two thousand and eight, Pulse three in two
thousand and eight, Presence in two thousand and eight, Weather
Girl two thousand and nine, two thousand and nine. He
also shoots Crank High Voltage. Ah. Okay goes on to
shoot Rob Zombiess Halloween two in two thousand and nine,

(40:56):
follows that up with Macgroover in twenty ten, Mad World
in twenty ten, Get Code, which was a series of
coaching videos that featured Sean Payton, Mike Ditka, Bobby Boden.
Then shoots Rob Zombie Sick Bubblegum video in twenty ten,
Rob Zombies Mars Needs a Women video in twenty ten,
The FP in twenty eleven, Ghost Writer Spirit a Vengeance
in twenty eleven. Okay goes on to shoot That's My Boy,

(41:16):
followed by Lords of Salem in twenty twelve, Darkwall This
Is the End in twenty thirteen, followed by That Awkward
Moment in twenty fourteen, I Love That Movie, followed by
Neighbors in twenty fourteen. I like Neighbors quite a bit too,
followed by Diary Teenage Girl in twenty fifteen, then follows
that up with Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse in
twenty fifteen. I Saw that movie shoots, Let's See The

(41:37):
Night Before in twenty fifteen, Neighbors twos Is Already Rising
in twenty sixteen, Pop Star Never Stopped, Never Stopping in
twenty sixteen, Foo Fighters video for Run the Disaster Artist
in twenty seventeen, Wow Future Man in twenty seventeen, Episodes
of Barry in twenty eighteen, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
In twenty eighteen, Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile in
twenty nineteen, episodes of The Righteous Gemstones in twenty nineteen,

(42:00):
Dear Evan Hanson in twenty twenty one, Sonic The Hedgehog
two in twenty twenty two, Bros. In twenty twenty two,
Oh Yeah, Knuckles in twenty twenty four, Night Bitch in
twenty twenty four, Sonic three in twenty twenty four and
coming soon, The Naked Gun in twenty twenty five, and
Coyote versus Acne in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Wow Yeah, Okay, yeah, he's got a aside from all
the rob zombie stuff, a pretty obvious trajectory. I was
shocked he didn't shoot the monsters.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I was kind of shocked too, But I will say too,
Lord's of Salem is one of his most visual films,
and I mean that cinematography in that alone is worth
a watch. The movie is is wild, but the cinematography
in that movie is worth they watch. If you have
not seen Lords of Salem, I still think it's one
of zombies, if not his best movies. I should get
around to watching it, you really should. I mean, I've
seen the greatest hits. I saw The Monsters thirty one.

(42:50):
Did I see thirty one? You haven't seen thirty one?
I say, I actually like thirty one. Thirty one is
absolutely Rob Zombie doing what he does, which is just like, hey,
here's some killer clowns that do a hunger games with
these people that break down on their road. Fair enough.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
I mean, I saw I saw a House on a
thousand corpses, Devil's Rejects, saw Halloween one and two.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
You haven't seen Three from Hell? Have youp.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
I think that that was it until months Monsters.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, my thirty one, I would say, is watchable. Three
from Hell has gotten less and less on me with
each watch. I think I've seen it three times? Now
do you like it less? I saw it? I saw
it in the road show. I actually went to talk
to theater. Yeah, yeah, I've liked it less and less
first time I watched it. Enough, it's just they So
Richard Brake is part of the cast. He's the Wolfman
as they call him, and he's just not good with

(43:35):
the Firefly clan. Fair enough. I love Richard break but yeah, yeah,
he's Oh, he's great. So moving on to our cast,
we have Will Forte, who plays Bagruber in the film
Get to Start in nineteen ninety three on The Late
Show with David Letterman Okay, goes on to work for
SNL in two thousand and two, Clone High Campus Ladies
beer Fest in two thousand and six, then appears on
Drawn Together, Aquatine, Hunger Force, Fly to the Concords, The

(43:57):
Brother Solomon in two thousand and seven. Remember that movie,
I do. Yeah, We're the only people.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I wow, I hadn't heard that.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
In Forever Baby Mama in two thousand and.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Eight, Oh man, that one too.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
The Slam and Salmon in two thousand and nine, Fanboys,
Cloudy with a Chance, of Meatballs, Tim and Eric Awesome Show,
Great Job in seven, then goes on to do mcgroover Squidbellies,
How I Met Your Mother, A good old fashioned orgy,
Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie in twenty twelve, The Immigrant,
That's My Boy, Rock of Ages, The Watch thirty Rock Conan,
The Cleveland Show, Nebraska in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
That's you know what I think That is the time
I first really noticed him. Yeah, like as being great
because I love that movie.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Nebrassa's Fantastic Drunk History in twenty thirteen, Grown Ups two
Comedy Bang Bang, Life of Crime, Cloudie with the Chance
of Meatballs Too, The Lego movie, Kroll Show twenty two,
Jump Street, She's Funny That Way, Seven Days in Hell,
The League in twenty fifteen, The Awesome's Moonbeam City, Gravity Falls,
Keanu Pop Star, Never Stopped, Never Stopping. Hugh Ti and
Stupid gestured The Last Man on Earth in twenty eighteen.

(45:00):
Man Book, Smart Good Boys, Drunk Buss, which I forgot
he's in.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
Oh yeah, he is in Drunk Buss.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah. Suh followed that up with Scoobe MacGruber of the
series in twenty twenty one. Late Night with Seth Meyers
Studio six sixty six, The Kids in the Hall. I
forgot about that. Yeah, weird. He's probably one of the
best parts of that movie, to be honest. Yeah, the
food delivery guy.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Oh, he was really funny, I mean shocking. He was
a hilarious man.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Weird. The Al Yangovic story in twenty twenty two Rick
and Morty, I think you should leave Ruby Gilman, Teenage Kraken,
The Strays, That ninety show, Bob's Berger's American Dad, The
Four Seasons. He was also a writer on MTV Movie Awards,
Third Rock from the Sun, That seventy show, Extreme Movie, MacGruber,
Last Man on Earth in mcgroober TV series. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
So he writes a lot on the stuff he stars in,
especially Uh No, I mean he's obviously very good.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh he's a four.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
But I will say I thought there'd be a lot
more titles that I was like, really into that he
had done, not as many as A thought.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
You want to know, one thing that I've been thinking
about the more I've thought about him, is I wonder
if I confuse him and hater every now and then
I do not you don't know, Okay, No, they just
are way too different they are, but it's just like,
I don't know, they run with like the same crowd
a little bit. Well, they were both people. I know that. Yes,

(46:13):
moving down to our cast, we also have Kristen Wigg
who plays Vicky Saint Elmo. She gets a start in
two thousand and three and I remember this on the
Joe Schmoe Show.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
I remember that too. I watched a video about the
Joe Schmoe Show. That's a great story.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
The first season's phenomenal. Well, the first two seasons are
actually a lot of fun. Well, the first one's really wholesome.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
The whole idea was to like make fun of this
average guy, and everyone loved him. He was actually like
the nicest, most stand up.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Guy ever, genuinely great guy.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
They tried to Like my favorite moment of that that
experiment was they did this whole thing where one of
the characters is gay, but he doesn't know anybody's character.
He thinks he's on a reality show with real reality.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
The guy that plays Rickety Cricket if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Somebody comes, you know, after him for being gay, and
they really try to get Joe Schmo to be on
board with like picking on this guy and he will
not know he won't, he will not and he's willing
to like risk losing this because he thinks he's on
a Big Brother show.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
But he gets a cast member to leave because they
have such a strong bomb that he doesn't want to
continue the show. Yeah, the old man character.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
And that's the craziest thing because you could say, like, oh, well,
he just wanted to look good. Well, he wasn't going
to win the money by being that way, you know. No,
it's it's fascinating and and a lot of people say
that the production had to completely shift because originally the
concept was to laugh at him, and by the end
they were like, no, no, we need to celebrate this guy.
We need to say like he's become he's a wonderful

(47:39):
guy and we're all so glad that we got to
be around him and get to know him. That's a
fascinating it really is. Obviously watching the whole thing is
a lot, but there are some great documentaries on YouTube
about the Joe Schmoe Show that really put it into perspective.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, and she played the doctor on that show. So
to get to start in two thousand and three on
there I'm with Her The Drew Carey Show in two
thousand and four, June SNL in two thousand and five,
goes on to do Unaccompanied Minors, Inemma with a Stigma,
Knocked Up in two thousand and seven, Oh Yeah, The
Brother Solomon two thousand and seven, Meet Bill, thirty Rock
Walk Hard, Semi pro for Getting Sarah Marshall, Ghost Town, Adventureland,

(48:17):
Fly to the Concords, Extract, Whip It, The Cleveland Show,
then does mcgruber in twenty ten. Goes on to do
How to Train Your Dragon, Date Night, Despicable Me, Bored
to Death, All Good Things, Paul Bridesmaids, which she's a
writer of, in twenty eleven, Friends with Kids, Arrested Development,
Drunk History, Hate Ship, Love Ship, Secret Life of Walter Mitty,
Her Anchorman two, Skeleton Twins in twenty fourteen, How to

(48:40):
Train Your Dragon two, Welcome to Me, Nasty Baby, A
Deadly Adoption with her and Will Ferrell, The Lifetime Original Movie.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Yes, I enjoyed that one.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
It was fun. Wet, hot American Summer, First Day of Camp.
In twenty fifteen, Masterminds, The Martian Zoolander two Tonight Show
with Fallon Sausage Party, Ghostbusters, Wet Hot American Summer ten
years later in twenty seven, Downsizing Mother, Last Man on Earth?
Where'd You Go? Bernadette Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four, Barbin
Starr go to Vista del Mar in twenty twenty one,

(49:09):
which she's.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
The writer of that poor movie. That poor movie, I
mean COVID wrecked it. But also no one those trailers
didn't make any sense. Yeah, they just didn't show anyone.
I had no idea what was going on.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I wanted to watch it, but like, but you don't
want to be the first. Well I can't. It's never
at the top of my list, but I am curious.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
I Yeah, I remember, Yeah, I remember seeing the trailers
and going what is this? And then I found out
all the celebrities every I was like, why wasn't anyone
we recognized?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah, shown in the trailer really really weird. Bless the
Hearts in twenty twenty one, Gruber TV series twenty twenty one,
Big Mouth, Palm Royal, and Despicable Me four in twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
See now that I'm not surprised by all those titles.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
She is.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
She is a phenomenal supporting actress in just about anything.
I mean, she's great in The Martian. Yeah, I mean
there are so many memorable that Kristen Wigg has done.
Let alone, it's like.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
She like when I was putting that together, I was like,
oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh then Marsham was a big one.
I was like, fuck, she's in The Martian. I forgot
about that.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
No, it's it's she's excellent. She's a very good foil. Yeah,
which is funny because she is so hilarious, but she's
really good as the straight person. Yeah, like that's I
think her strong power.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah. We also have Val Kilmer in the cast, who
plays deeterbon Khan through this episode is dedicated to as
we were honoring him. He gets to start in nineteen
eighty four on Top Secret, Oh Yeah, goes on to
do Real Genius in eighty five, Top Gun in eighty six,
The Murders in the Room Morgan eighty six, Willow in
eighty eight, Billy the Kid in eighty nine, and Kill
Me Again in eighty nine, which I just watched, which
is a Southwestern neo noir by John Dall who did

(50:42):
Red Rock West Oh Wow. And Kilmer plays a Pi
Madson and Michael Madson and the main actress in this
I can't remember her name, Whaley is her last name.
They are criminals on the run. She ends up knocking
Madsen out at a bathroom stealing a briefcase of money.
Goes to Kilmer, who's the PI, and is like, I
want you to kill me so he'll stop looking for me.

(51:03):
And I'm not gonna say anymore, but it is one
of the one of the most underrated thrillers that I've
seen in a while.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
I've noticed that there are a lot of holes in
my Kilmer.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, viewing same, that's what like was that was one.
It's currently as we're recording this episode. It's currently on Prime.
I think it's going to be there for like another
week according to my Prime app. So that's why I
watched it. But yeah, kill Me against eighty nine cannot recommend.
Enough goes from that to Do the Doors in ninety one,
Thunderheart in ninety two, True Romance in ninety three, Real
McCoy in ninety three, Tombstone in ninety three, Batman Forever

(51:35):
in ninety five, Heat in ninety five, Islanded, Doctor Moreau
in ninety six, followed by Dead Girl, The Ghost in
the Darkness, The Saint, the Prince of Egypt at First Sight,
Joe the King, Pollock, Red Planet, Sultan Sea in two
thousand and two, Hard Cash, Wonderland, The Missing, Blind, Horizons,
Spartan Minehunters, Entourage, Alexander Kiss Kiss Bang Bang in two

(51:55):
thousand and five, Tenth and Wolf, Moscow, Zero, Deja Vu,
Commanche Moon Conspiracy, Columbus Day Love Garu in two thousand
and eight, Hey fell In in two thousand and eight, Night Rider,
Streets of Blood, The Thaw, Bad Lieutenant Port of Called
New Orleans, other classic great one, Honestly Hardwired, Bloodworth Magruber
in twenty ten, then goes on to do The Traveler

(52:17):
Gun Kill the Irishman TwixT seven below, Breathless Riddle, Life's
Too Short in twenty thirteen, which is his appearance on
Life's Too Short The Warwick Davis Show hilarious because he
plays Valkilmer as such a schmuck who's trying to get
money for Willow two, but it's actually him just scamming
Warwick data. That's funny.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
That's really funny.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I like that a lot. Plains in twenty thirteen, psych
the Snowman, The Super First Born Jance Bob reboot in
twenty nineteen where he played blunt Man Okay, pay Dirt,
and then his last film in twenty twenty two, Top Gun.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Maverick, which was a really wautiful sendoff, A wonderful, Yeah, wonderful.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
He unfortunately left us April first of twenty twenty five
at age sixty five from pneumonia is what the actual
cause is dated to. He also did have a long
battle with cancer, which is why he lost as a speaking.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
One, and that's what made him succumb to pneumonia, was
he was very very ill.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yes, but yeah, his I mean resume, There a lot
of good movies, there a lot of questionable movies. But
still he's I've never seen a bad performance from him.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
I will say, no, I would, I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah. So moving on to our cast and wrapping us up,
we also have the late Great Powers Booth with us,
who plays Colonel Faith in this. He gets to start
in nineteen seventy seven with the Goodbye Girl goes On
to Be and cruising in eighty skag the plutonium incident
Southern Comfort in eighty one, A breed Apart read Don
in eighty four, The Emerald Forest, Philip Marlow Private ITV
series in eighty three, Extreme Prejudice Into the Homeland, Stalingrad

(53:41):
by Don's Early Light, Rapid Fire in ninety two, Hell Yeah,
Wild Card, Marked for Murder, Tombstone in ninety three, Web
of Deception, Blue Sky, Mutant Species, Sudden Death Future Episode
in ninety five, Nixon. I love that movie. Nixon in
ninety five, True Woman, con Air in ninety seven. He's
the voice at the very beginning that tells Nicholas Cage

(54:02):
that he's graduated the Marines. I didn't know that until today.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Yeah, that's epic.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, but it's totally him, because I pulled it up
and I was.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Like, oh, that's that's a very recognizable voice, without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, you Turn in ninety seven, Joan of arc A,
Crime of Passion, Men of Honor, Frailty in two thousand
and one. Oh yeah, that's a great film. Second Nature,
Sin City, Justice League, Unlimited, Deadwood, the final Season, Mcgruber
in twenty ten, The Avengers, Hatfield McCoy's Guns of Girls
in Gambling in twenty twelve, Straight A's Nashville, Sin City
of Dame to Kill for Moonbeam City and Last Agents

(54:34):
of Shield in twenty thirteen. He unfortunately left us May
fourteenth of twenty seventeen from pancreatic cancer at age sixty eight.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Man, and that's an unbelievable career.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Oh yeah, Powers Booth is that guy that if you've
ever wanted either a villain or just an actual, like
really good second. Powers Booth is a guy you call
on No he's.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Yeah, No, he's got he's got gravitas. It's why you
fit very well into this movie. Yeah, by not fitting, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
That's fair. First time watching what was it?

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (55:05):
You know, I remember it like it was yesterday. It
was about an hour and a half ago.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
So my first time watching mcgoober, I don't believe I
had seen any of the s and l skits. I
don't think i'd seen any of them. But I had
seen the commercials. I'd seen the Pepsi commercial, I'd seen
the super one specifically to the point where I remember
I was in my Latin class and this kid named Alan.
We were talking about mcgoober because we knew the movie
was coming, and we both were like, what the hell
is it going to be? So I actually went opening

(55:32):
night premiere of this movie on May of twenty ten,
and it was me Xander and a couple other of
my buds, and we went into this movie really not
knowing anything like it was gonna be an R rated comedy.
None of the commercials could reflect that, so you just
didn't know what to expect. Sure by the like first
twenty minutes in, I was laughing so much that I
hurt because it had just spiraled out of control to

(55:55):
what no one could have predicted this movie would be like.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Fair, fair enough. I would have to say, it would
be weird if if you were like that was exactly
what I expected. Yeah, you're you're not well.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
But it was just everything in this movie worked for
my sense of humor at that time and still does
today obviously as well. And this is legitimately like a
comfort movie. I put on like the like ten days
after kilmurd passed, I put this on to commemorate him,
but also I was like feeling down and this movie
like always cheers me up because it's so bad. Shit,
it's it's it's a nutsy movie and and the choices

(56:27):
it makes are are very very interesting. Oh yeah, I
would say so, So you're ready to get into it,
why the hell not. So we start an eastern Siberia
as we are coming over a desert convoy that has
been completely wiped out. There's bullet holes, there's bodies, we're
seeing blood, and we're seeing these guys walk up that
have definitely just done the wet work right. And that
is when we meet Dieter von Kunth, who comes up

(56:48):
in his in his convoy and gets out and we
see that he's basically stealing a nuclear warhead and a
guy asked him in Russian not to do it, and
the first thing that we get words from him are sorry,
I don't speak Russian, and he kills the guy.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
It's a solid reveal, and it feels that scene in
particular feels very like a legitimate mid tier action of
that time. Oh yeah, like massively a lot does, but
especially that opening.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah, the opening sets up that we have our villain
and that this is going to be a spoof on
an action movie. But we don't really know it's a
spoof yet unless.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
We find out very quickly when the opening credits start.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yes, because the opening credits, as you pointed out, are
basically mcgoover doing all the things that we need learn
from mcgoover to do, which is putting things together from
rare items he has. He's also playing the saxophone at
one point. And also we don't know by this point,
and I'll just spoil it here because it's not a
spoiler at all. He's supposed to be dead. And this,
this whole montage we're seeing of him is like an
opening credits to a TV show. Almost.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Yeah, Yeah, it's just a montage of him doing like
epic things that are ridiculous. Yeah, he's he's he's like
doing black smithing, but it reveals that he was making
a single.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, and then, and not to mention that, we also
get the mcgoober theme while this is going on, and
people are singing his name and everything. But my favorite
line is, magoober, we made a fucking movie, magoop.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
I mean, they're right, yes, all right.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Because we meet Colonel Jim Faith and Lieutenant Dixon Piper
and they are searching for the Green Brays that we're
supposed to be protecting the warhead. They've been wiped out, obviously,
and that's when he realizes they've got to call in
their one and only weapon that can fight Deeter von khanf.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
And apparently for ten years everyone believes macgroober is dead.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yes, he's been hiding out in this village. He is
found while he's meditating in a chapel, and the way
that they reveal that he knows that they're there is
they walk in, a candle blows out and he's like,
good to see you again, colonel, And we're seeing him
from the back and he's got a huge hair bed
at this point, hair of head, head of hair, Jesus, Yeah,
and he does it like backflip, super ridiculous backflip thing.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
And basically they say, the guy who we know killed
your wife is back, yeah, and we need you to
bring him down, which again very nineties early nineties action
movie plot.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, but he refuses because he's changed his life now
he loves his village, and then gets robbed by the
kids in the village, which I love.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, he's like, they respect me here up yours mcgrooper.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Yeah, they hate him, which and as the movie goes on,
you realize that they're not wrong. No, No, he deserves
pretty much all the alignment he gets.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, so uh, he he does not want to do
it at first, so he ends up telling them no
and that he's left his he's left that life behind
and now he's in this peaceful village. So they leave him,
and then that night he has a flashback dream about
what happened, and we see that him and his wife,
Casey are getting married, and the priest flips through his
bible and there's a bomb in one of the carved
out in it, and we flash over to Dieter bond Kunk,

(59:54):
who you pointed out also says fuck you.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
He literally just is fuck you mcgroover and then he
flows the switch and they just explode.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
My favorite is they're they're standing there like like it's
like three four seconds after you see what's gonna happen,
and they're just standing there like reaching out like no, yeah.
Fire just engulfs and then mcgrooeber wakes up in a
cold sweat and there's a photo of Comth on the wall.
So he wakes up and immediately looks at a picture
of Comt mugshot like it's not it's not a flattering picture.

(01:00:24):
He look So then we go to your favorite scene,
which is he goes to his grave in his cemetery
next to his wife that is raining torrential rainstorm going on.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Yeah, it's it's like it's massive pouring rain.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Digs up a coffin, pulls out his Macgroober outfit, which
is completely laid out in the coffin, and gets dressed
completely in the rain.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
And this scene killed me because it was just the
fact that everything was soaking wet. Yeah, so he's like
getting dressed and it's all sopping wet. He gets his
car keys, which have of course a lucky rabbit's foot
on it, sopping wet. Like, I just thought that was
a really funny way to set everything up. And uh,
also one of a good half dozen times we see

(01:01:07):
Willforte's ass.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah, we see his ass a lot in this movie,
a ton a ton, and even more they talk about
his ass. They do talk about his ass. So he
goes into he goes into the headquarters of the Pentagon.
One of my favorite jokes. He goes in, I'm in,
and then it just reveals he's in a cafeteria. Yeah,
they're like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
What I he opens another door, I'm in and then
it's in the right the right room. Yeah, very very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah, so that's when the that's when Colonel Faith is
telling him that it's count they've got a plan for it,
and he's put a team together, and that he's also
volunteered Piper to be a part of the team because
he's a great soldier. That ends up getting Piper punched
in the face because he moused off to mcgroover.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Yeah, of course. Well Piper is like being the least shitty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yeah, played by Ryan Philip Philip.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
And and he's not being a dick at all. He's
just kind of like, who is this guy? And mcgrooverer's like,
I'm the worst. So now he goes and gathers this
dream team. The first one is pro wrestler Chris Jericho,
and all this dream team is ww wrestlers at that time. Yeah,
I couldn't then name them all. But his exchange with

(01:02:08):
Jericho's hilarious, like really really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You've seen python your pants. I've missed your dick jokes. Thanks,
I've miss saying them, I've miss hearing them. Yeah, oh no, thanks,
they're fun to say, they're fun to hear. That's why
I listened to them. Then he gets Mark Henry, he
gets the great colleague. He gets He goes to see
the Big Show, which I was not expecting this joke.
Big Show is.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Like in a auto body show body shop, and he's like,
looks over, he's like hey mcgoverer and slowmotion, and then
a guy walks into hand him a drink and they
kiss on the lips and mcgrooper's like uh and then
off the list. So boy, yeah, yeah yeah mcgroober not
not the biggest ally to the games, no, not really so,
but he ends up he pulls this team together of

(01:02:50):
just unbelievable muscle men basically because about three of them
are like some of the biggest wrestlers physically.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yeah, and they're in this they're in this van. They're
getting ready to go off on the mission. They've this
van with all them all their guns and all these
homemade explosives. So then Colonel Faith and Piper roll up
to see them off, and Faith one more time is like, hey,
you know, you're sure you don't want to take Piper
as a hell of a man. Faith ends up walking
away and Piper and mcgrueber get into it basically just
going back and forth again, and he tells them, yeah,
you know, I'd love to have you on, but there's

(01:03:17):
just so much you know, husky guys in there, and
you know a bunch of us see four explosive that
I pack with my own hands, Flash to the van exploding.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Behind us, of just explosion. So now, and I had
a feeling because this dream team was like a little
too perfect. Yeah, they all adore mcgruber. Yeah, they are
all massive beastly men. So yeah, they're all dead, all dead,
and their body parts are everywhere. He's running up being
like you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Guys, okay, and they're called nine one What call that pro?

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
I mean, one day you'll know what it's like to
have a friend and then you'll be sad with he
They no, no, no, no, but like no, it's it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Call nine one one, Call nine one. It's yeah that thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
So it's so now they're saying they're going to call
off this operation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, because it's their funeral. He had had them, he'd
send some words and everything, and he's gotten too close
to it now. Also, forgot to miss that Vicky Salemo
is contacted and before this is well to join the team,
which is Kristin Wig, but she declines out because she's
also changed her life.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Yeah, and she's just practicing music. Horribly horribly. You find
out that she was best friends with mcgroober's bride to be,
and the way they reveal that is she gets splattered
with their lid at the wedding. Yeah, so it's pretty funny,
and Kristin Wig plays this very well. She's very understated,
very awkward, very nervous, yeah, which I think is very funny. Yeah,

(01:04:38):
and adds a great element to the whole the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
But yeah, Faith wants to take him off and he's like,
you know, I can't do that, and he's like, no,
I'm sorry, mcgover. That's the way it's got to be.
So Piper comes in to talk to Faith and mcgoober
tries to get him to convince him that they can
do this together, and he's like, you know, I'm sorry
for what I said, offers to suck his dick. At
one point.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
It's a bizarre thing where macgoober basically says like, I'll
suck your day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I'll let you, I'll let you watch me something. He says,
just tell me what to fuck fuck. He's crying that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
And and the best play is like he turns away
from me, he turns second doors are down and he
basically makes him come out I don't have any lose
but copy Toner right out. Yeah, he's like, put your
pants back up. So and that was a good moment
because mcgroober is very hard to like. Oh yeah, I
mean I would say actually impossible, impossible to like. So

(01:05:29):
it's nice to see him be pathetic often. Yeah, it helps.
I do think sometimes the balance was not quite enough.
It's not to really keep you from just going wow,
what a head.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
So Colonel Faith comes back in and Piper and mcgroober
are groober on the floor of this pants off. It's
just like I love it because Powers booths one look
and he's just like huh. They're just like, okay, we're
gonna yeah, I'm gonna join his team. We got this together.
And then Kristen Wigg comes in so she's a part
of the team now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
So now it's a three person team.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Three person team, and their first stop, even though they
have the elementist is mcgroober finds out that one of
Kunt's Night's clubs is in Vegas and they go and
just cause kaows, he just goes on stage and says,
my name is mcgruber and I'm here for Kunt and
this is one thing I thought was really funny every
single time in this movie that they have any possible

(01:06:16):
element of surprise, he gives up gives them immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
So now not only has he given up that he's
after Coump, he gave up that he's alive. Thought he
was dead. So yeah, and I love that. Then the
Pentagon people are even like, what did you do? Now
they're gonna be looking for you everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
And then the next shot is Kristin wigg dressed exactly
like mcgroober and she's like, why do I have to
be you if everyone's hunting you? So yeah, they can.
They've come up with the idea that since he's gone
to the night club, they know that he's alive now
that they're gonna send people after him. But as they
leave the night club, we also have a guy that
shouts mcgroober, hey, nice car, dickhead, and that's when mcgroeber
says fuck you and also starts repeating this man's license

(01:06:55):
plate numerous times, which is k fb R three nine
to two.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
And this is a fascinating thing because it keeps paying
off later and like he finds the Felipe's character hyper
a notepad with that number written over and over again,
and then the illustration of him pooping on the guy's
and it's I mean, and they're drawn like a child.
In fact, his handwriting looks like a child with schizophrenia. Yeah,
which is which I thought was perfectly planned, because it

(01:07:23):
becomes very quick, very obvious, very quickly that mcgruber is
something else because when they talk to count afterward, they
say all the stuff and Kunt is like what and
they were like, well, what did you kill him?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Or whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
They're like, we thought he was mentally challenged. I thought
that was freaking hilarious. So now we know that Kunth
knows he's alive.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yep, they're sending men after him. And also I love
this scene with Kunt because a Val Kilmer was a
it was a painter, and I mean, he did a
lot of paintings for one, so he's actually that's really
just him probably doing one of his paintings. But it
just shows what a what a good actor he is
in portraying like a Bond villain, like this is such
a Bond villain moment that he nails this entire movie.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
Oh yeah, so now that Kristen Wig is dressed as him.
We have this this obscenely painful scene where she's buying
a coffee as mcgruber.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Because he told them where he was gonna be was
was the Starbucks. And so she's buying this coffee and
he's got the earpiece, so.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Walking her through every element so that she does it
like him. So he's like, no, no, take that tip back.
That wouldn't be I'd buy a tazzo ta I wouldn't tip,
you know, take the tip back, and she's just like
really awkward. But after all of that, then he's walking
her through taking a sip of the tea. He's like, now,
bring the cup to your mouth. You're going to tilt
it until the tea is in your mouth and then
and then gunshruster are firing and they fake you out

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and make you think Kristen Wiggs being shot at.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
No, they found the vein the twenty blocks away because
that's a joke, is that. Because he's like, she's like,
you know, well seven blocks away, Oh you got me,
it's more like twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Twenty blocks and he's like, we couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
It was the closest we could get. And then he
was lifers like there were so many for the closer spots.
Yeah with meters. Oh no, it's a great great So
the van is getting shot up. Vicky's screaming in the
coffee shop and just making a scene, and.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Because she's hearing in her earpiece them getting shot up,
she's dropping the floor. All these people in the store
just looking at her like she's completely insane. She was
talking to herself first and now this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
So mcgroover ends up getting a wet mop. He gets
the car started, They push the van forward and run
has Benterdad, which is the guy that's shooting after them,
and they crutch him against this freaking.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Track smash him good. And we've almost forgot to mention
mcgroober won't use a gun. Will not use a gun. No,
it becomes a bigger point later, but he won't use
a gun. That's why he does all these weird improvisational
weapon things. He won't use a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Won't use a gun. And this is also at the
point we find out too that he really has no
idea how to solve like a mystery, like he can't
put together like what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
You could have just stopped it. He has no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
It has no idea. Well, that's my favorite thing was
when he flips through the notepad clues one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Well, and at one point he says, like, what's your
plan is? Like he says, don't worry, I have a plan.
I like to make it up as I go, And
it's really not what a plan is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Yeah. It' such a great such a great guy. Because
also it's like, why did they want him for this mission? Yeah?
Like what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
They find Hassa's car. They find a huge thing of
money in it. They find GPS to this warehouse, and
they also figure out that that Piper figures out that
they're gonna buy the pass codes for the nuclear weapon,
and so they decide to do another operation and go
to the warehouse and this time they dressed quick again.
Kristin Wigg gets dressed up as the guy they just killed.
She has like a facial hair and a wig. Again

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why not, well anyone other than her Piper's dresses. Mcgrooeverer
that's the best and real too. They pan over. He's like,
and why am I mcgroover He's like, first off, you'll
never be mcgree He's such a dick. He's always saying
something mean so, so then if I remember, was this
the distraction?

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
The first the distraction? So he pulls out a salary sticky.
He's like, I'll cause a distraction. He walks out with
his pants completely off, covering his penis yep, with celery
sticking out of his ass, just kind of dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Dancing, getting getting the guard's attention, so that Pipeper can
take the shot. Yeah, but Piper's just like what the hell.
He's like, take the shot now, So he shoots all
three of them. He's like, see, I just killed three
guards without a gun. He's like, actually, eyeshot, I mean yeah,
when they were distracted by me. And then he also
tells him if he ever wants to do the cellary trick,
you're gonna want to start with the thinn now, I know,
like the thicken now, I know, the thin, you know,

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might seem a little bit more eBrace, but it'll you know,
it'll get thin, it'll fall out. And he's like, I'm
never gonna do that. Never say never ever, say never ever,
never ever say never ever.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
So now Kristin Wig walks in dressed as the guy yeah,
and it's really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Mcgover goes he goes, you know, just take it easy
and you know, get in there there by the way,
they're gonna take your hospital. She got nothing worry about it.
She walks in. But that's not hass She's not even
through the doorway. They're like forty feet away, and they
immediately are like, that's not hast So they starts to
open fire. Yeah. Luckily at that point Piper and mcgruver
up well really luckily Pipe Piper is up there, so

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they starts shooting back at them, and mcgoover goes to
making a handmade grenade, and he even asked Piper at
one point he can have his gun to stir something with,
and he's like, no, use your finger. He's like, watch
your tone, my god.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Yeah, And so they drive off after killing a couple
of bad guys. His handmade grenade made out of a
tennis ball lands and sit pups well the best person
it sits for like four or five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Seconds, so that completely got blown to the ens. Vicki
comes up and she's like, hey, guys, a peda jeans
a peed them. Yeah, super funny. So they don't have
the pass codes, they have no idea where Kuntsman is going.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
They got the money, they got the pass codes, so
now like legitimately they have a nuclear weapon that they
can use.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah. So that's when he's like, you know, I don't
know what our next step is. And suddenly, hass his
phone starts ring and he's like, give me that, I'll
trace it. And he gets on it and he's just like, listen,
you said of bitch hawks and are dead and you're
next if you don't tell me. Oh, they hung up.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
Yeah, they're like and the best person. They say, oh
he hung up? Did you trace it? Like, we need
twenty seconds? And my first thought was that's not even
that long.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
To second she was twenty seconds and Piper goes, that
was maybe two.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
And then the phone rings.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Here's the phone ring.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
He's like, see another chance, and he starts saying the
exact same thing and realizes that's not the phone that
was ringing. Yeah, it was his own phone and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Answers it is telling him and he's like, you know,
element of surprise is blown, Like, you know, by the way,
cunt's having a charity event. Oh no, this is where
he tells him. He goes, cunts have a charity event tonight,
and he's like, oh yeah, we know all about we're
gonna be there's like absolutely not a group. We're like,
right now we have the element of surprize on our hands.
Cunt thinks you're dead, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he definitely will not go to the Galla smash cut.
They're going to the Galon. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
And he's all he's done because he has this mullet.
All he's done is comit down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
So he looks like the biggest weave.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
And and this is the scene where we start to
get this hint that he is kind of in love
with the Christian Whig character, because she says like, I'll
go get information out of that cansome guy, and it
just becomes an argum about that guy's not really handsome.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
I mean that's a no. I want you to follow
that old man. If you like that guy, go marry him.
Give up the mission. Yeah, go marry give up your job?
Do you want to give up your job?

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Okay. We should also mention that his low profile entry,
because that's what he tells Piper not to worry because
he's gonna be low profile. Pulls up in his corvette,
is blaring take me home tonight. By Eddie Money.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
Walks in flipping off the door. People.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
No, it's it's yeah, it's it's it's obsceeding, and so
he says he's got some business take care of first,
and he goes to cunts bathroom, which we'll get to
you in a second. He comes back, he's talking to Vicky,
tells her that he took an upper decker, and then
he also goes to find Kant, who is playing cards
at his own party, and the guy that he's playing
with is the Senator, and he tells him that cunts bluffing.
The Senator ends up losing seven hundred thousand dollars in

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his pissed.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
And then their their confrontation is just kind of it's
it's oddly benign.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Well, the one thing that I want to point out
is he goes to Kunt and he's like, you know, I,
you know, I had a team. He's like, yeah, I
had a team too. He's like, I had assembled all
my favorite mercenaries and I had them in this room,
but I also had this homemade C four so it
blew up and they blew up. He's like, oh my god,
you're never gonna believe the same thing. Happened to me.
He's like, actually, that didn't happen to me, because I'm
not a fucking idiot that it's so good.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
It's so good, But it also is a little bit
of showing the cards of the ridiculous reveal about what
their history is together, that they kind of talk to
each other like friends almost.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
So yeah, yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Getting ready to get into a fight with this man.
He tells one of them that he's going well Derek Meers.
He tells him that he's gonna punch him in the eye.
He's gonna kick this guy right in the balls. Then
he's also gonna get one throat rip in. He think
it's gonna be this guy, so anytime they're ready, gets
thrown through a window.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
But he doesn't just get thrown through a window. He
goes through the window, lands and goes, ah, my back.
He just starts complaining about how bad it hurt, which
is so much funnier.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Derek Mehers breaks the radio, throws it out because he
has a car radio that he takes Where is.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
His tape deck from his car? Yeah, so that it
won't get stolen everywhere he goes in his hot shit
silly old car.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
And one of the best jokes throughout the movie is
there's always like a kick ass song that he's getting
into his car too. That's like the total action Battie
the tune that you would think, and he changes it
to some soft rock some every time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
No, it's no, there's a lot of really funny stuff.
It's just the fact that he has this doesn't care
about anyone's life mentality is really fascinating because I believe
is this the part where they go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Back to the Benagon.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
Oh no, uh okay, not so not yet when Felipe
becomes this human shield.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Oh no, no, yeah, that's all that's coming up. So
they go back to the Pentagon, and that's when Faith
reprimends him, takes him off the case. And that is
when we also cut back to kunt who is like,
you know, hey, great party, would love to know how
mcgroober out in here, and Derek Mears admits it with him.
He stands in front of this blank canvas, shoots him
in the head and he's like, okay, now, somebody go
kill mcgroober and hang that in the foyer.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Yeah, somebody kills mcgroober and somebody hang that in the foyer,
so little modern art.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Yeah. So mcgroober is taken off now. So they are
sitting at his trailer and they're having some beers, and
that's when they explained the history of him and cunt.
Oh my god, I'm gonna pull up the quote, up.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
The quote because this is this is so good, because
he's like, I have no because she's like, why would
he Why did he kill your your wife on your
wedding day? Yeah, And he's like, I don't know. I
could never figure it out. I've been racking my brain
forever to this day.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I have no idea. We actually all went to the
same college together, which we flashed back to them. In
college and Val Kilmer's got hair playing a guitar.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
Marculous blonde wig. That's so nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
It's great, believe it or not. We were very close friends.
Then after graduation he got engaged to her. He asked
me to be his best man. Right about that time,
I started banging her and mowing her box. She was
actually the first person I felt comfortable enough around to
let eat my butt. Anyway, Shortly shortly thereafter, she left
him for me. She was actually carrying his child at
the time. I asked her to terminate it obviously so
we could start fresh, and she agreed. We were so

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in love and he took her took that from me.
So he has no.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Idea that he's literally done everything awful to this guy
you possibly could.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
And now you're like, oh well, even Piper's like, that's
really fucked up. Mcgrooper and was like, yeah, but he.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
Thinks he means about his wife dying. That's mcgrooverer doesn't
even understand that. He means what you did was fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
There, no, that is. So they're drinking beers. Vicky goes
off to the bathroom and that's when Piper goes to
grab another beer. Mcgrooverer sees the gunman and moved in
and he tells Piper to get down, goes behind him.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Right before that, oh yeah, go ahead. Right before that,
he told Piper like, you know what, you're not so bad.
I like you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Then when they come in, he literally uses his body
as a shield. He's taking bullet after bullet after bullet
after bullet, flips him around. When they get back to Vicky,
he then puts him over the back of the car
to take more bullets. As they're starting the car. Now,
as they're driving away, she says, is he dead?

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
He goes, of course he's dead, And then you hear
rightfully Pey going like uh and he's like, how did
you know? I was wearing a bullet provests He's like,
you were.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Wearing a bullet per vest, grins great, that's great God,
And Piper's pissed obviously. He's like stop the car and
he's like why. He's like, you just used me as
a human shield and he's like, no, I didn't. And
Vicky's like, yeah, you kind of literally in every way.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
And at first I thought he was going to be
dead and which one was going to be? Like, man,
they're really the balance is really hard on this comedy. Yeah,
but no, that was a nice payoff that he was
wearing a bullet pro vest. But he took like fifty
sixty bullets. He took a lot of bullets.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
So now mcgruber's basically on his own.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, he's on his own. So Piper gets out of
the car and they go back to Vicky's house. Vicky
pulls the bullet, or pulls a bullet out of Gruber's leg.
This leads to a whole sex scene that is one
of my favorite jokes in the entire movie.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
So so first it's just like the music swell and
then it's like she sticks her finger in his belly button.
It's all slow mo and sensual. Then it just smash
cuts this wide shot of him just making the most
ungodly sounds like, and also being kind of a.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Jerk because he's still like, keep telling her things. She's
trying to talk dirty back to him, and he's like,
I got this, I got this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
She also told him she was a virgin, not for long,
not for long, A great horrible line. So he finishes
up with her and then immediately like storms off.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah, He's like I gotta go, and she's like what's wrong,
And he goes out to his car, drives to the
cemetery where he sees Casey's ghost and he's like, you know,
I'm sorry I had sex with Vicky and Casey's like, no,
it's okay, you have to move on. And Casey suddenly
comes back into reality. She's got the ghostly veil at first,
then when she gets close to him, they year her
kiss and then they start having a sex scene.

Speaker 5 (01:19:59):
But it's the the exact same scene almost except in
the graveyard, So so the same slow music build the
touching and then except they show a grave guy who
works at ground and just seeing him banging nothing the
hands down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
But then we cut back the casey wow wow wow wow.
So if you're not keeping track of that, dear listener,
he had sex with Vicky, then in a sham, goes
to the cemetery and has sex with his wife's ghost. Yes,
And then as he's getting out of there, he realizes

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that the car is there the guy who messed with
He's like, what a coincidence. So as he's keying it,
Faith calls.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
Him and tells him like, look, you know this is
what's going on, Like we have to stop him, and
he's like, he's like, we just don't know where he'd
be king the car. He's breaking all the windows as
he's talking normally. But then he looks inside the car
and sees a newspaper.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
That says the State of the Union is coming up tonight,
but tonight by the way, like really quick.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Right now, And he's like, I think I know what
it is. So then he goes to his car, pops
the trunk, grabs a gas stand, continues to fully destroy
the car.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
So as he's walking away, this car explodes. That's just
petty revenge and the driver goes what the hell. He's like,
fuck you dude, it away. So while that was happening,
we also the call from Faith told him that the
guy Dieter bun Kunt that he was actually clean. He was, oh, yeah,
they couldn't find any evidence, couldn find anything on him,
and that reveals that the senator is actually corrupt. He
ends up shooting Colonel Faith when they get off the phone.

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So now we see that a senator was corrupted by
Kunt who was at the party who lost the money
to him, right, So now mcgruber knows what's up. He
also realizes that Vicky has been kidnapped as he goes
back to her house because he gets a call and
it's Vicky's phone. Kunt answers it and basically tells him
that you know, this is what you're gonna do, and also,
if you like show up anywhere near around me, I'm
going to break Vicky's phone. He's like, I think I've

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got it. The phone is Vicky, right, and he's like, yess.

Speaker 5 (01:21:51):
So now we get into our action movie. Yes, thrilling conclusion.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
So that is when on their way to Kunt's compound
on he picks up Piper and he agrees to do
one last mission, one last mission with him, and that
is when we get the montage of mcgroeber going to
his trailer and loading himself up with all his accouter
caps and pins, cymbals, paper clips, pushfins, and of course

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a celery cellery stick, yeah, cellar stick in his butt.
So they get to the compound and they end up
fighting their way in, and that is when they get
into a huge firefight, like they've been ambushed by this point,
and he's telling mcgroober that you need to use a
gun and he's like, no, I won't do it. And
he's like why and he's like I don't know how.
So then Piper shows him how to use a gun,
and mcgroov the rest of the movie, anytime he has guns,

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which is usually dual wielding, it's just has the funniest face.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
And he's just flailing his arms fire. He's like, this
is great.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
He's not hitting anything because they're shooting next to each
other at one point, well, and at one point he's like,
I got that guy in Philip is like, I'm pretty
sure I did, but great effort. Yeah, So they get
their way into the compound. Mcgroober once again blowing the
element of surprise because they get to the control room
and he gets on the PA telling cunts to come
down here and that you know, they'll do some throat
rips because we also see the mcgoover gets his first,

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if not two throat rips in of the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
Yeah, he just rips people's throats out. So luckily this
actually turns out to be somewhat strategic. Yeah, because they
leave the the base or the theah. They leave there,
everybody comes in to catch him, but then they find
even more guards. They have to keep fighting and fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
My favorite is the guards get into the control room
and fucking a water cup a Dixie watercups spills onto
them and it's though they've the guard that's dead because
he threw One of my favorite jokes is he throws
a box the throat lossages down in front of the
guard and he's like throat LODs. He's like, you're gonna
want to take the whole box and the throat, but
he has the guard given the middle fingers and it
just a sign on and says, Haha, you're all wet. Yeah,

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it's so silly. So they end up getting captured by Kuntsman.
They're brought to the compound along with Vicky. Because my
favorite part is they go into Vicky's room where Vicky
was tied and she's just like a dog that got
into a leash, like the wrong way. It's like completely
like tumbled over in the chair and wrapped all.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
All tangled up. And at one point, I do want
to mention mcgroober tells Piper that he's like rehearsed his
like big thing to say to Vicky. I've been saying
it in the Oh no, no to say to Hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
I've been rehearsing it. I'm like ready for it. You're
gonna love it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
He's like, well, I hope I get to hear it, because,
oh you will.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
The whole movie he keeps saying, time to go pound
some cunt. That's that's his catchphrase for this. And also
I'm gonna cut off your dick and shove it in
your own mouth. I mean, that's less a catchphrase, is
just a constant threat. He's always making yes because as
we get to the conclusion, he's he's face to face
with Kunt and he's been captured. At this point, Kunt
reveals that he uh, you know, he's he's like, you know,

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why'd you kill Casey? And he's like, I didn't you did?
And he's like, what do you mean. He's like, it's
all right here in your manifesto, which is just pages
and pages of loose leaves aple together that says fuck
you America mcgroober's manifest And the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
Best part about this is mcgruber does not get what
he's getting at. So he goes like, I don't know
who wrote that, but it wasn't mean. He turns to
believe you gotta believe me. He's like, I made it,
mcgoover and he's like, oh, what the what the fuck
you asshole? It's pretty it's a pretty solid moment. Also,
they nailed the fact that it looks like it was
made by a child.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Yeah. So that's when he's like, you know, can we
get to everybody's death? You know, I'm gonna turn Washington
d C. Into a pile of ash, but first, let
me have some fun before we kill you all. Goes
to macgoober, holds up a pair of scissors and cuts
the mullets down.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
Which was really funny because it's like super dramatic and
it's super like screaming out. Mcgoover is just going through
all these facial expressions and then gets rageful. And my
favorite thing is Val Kilmer's cunt puts the hair on
his back and he's like, I'm Macgoover. Time to go
pounce some cunt.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yep buck you fuck you fun And meanwhile this is happening,
mcgoover just goes rageful in one throw, grabs both the
guard's throats and rips.

Speaker 5 (01:25:48):
The mountain one grab and yeah, I mean so at
this point, we're at the nuclear warhead that was stolen
that's going to be launched at the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
I believe they've killed Kunt's men. Cut is now handcuffed
to the nuclear to the to the station for the
nuclear warhead, and that's when he's like telling Vicky that
you know, I've got something to tell you. They've got
three minutes left to disarm this warhead. And he's like, okay,
we'll toss you those pliers, toss me this, this, this,
and then comes back and he's made a wedding ring.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
It's like Mary, she's like, yes, but defuse. It's so funny.
I got a handed to him the making the wedding ring.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yeah, so good. So he goes into the warhead, pulls
it down, and he's like, holy shit. He's like, there's
so many wires in the three gree wire guy, there's
a green one. Oh god, there's a bunch of green ones.
So then he just decides to rip the warhead core out.

Speaker 5 (01:26:33):
He's like, well, now you know, without a warhead it's
gonna be very He's like, you idiot, it's full of
enough phosphorus to still destroy the White House, that kill
the president in all of Congress. Yeah, he's like, well,
he digs around, he pulls out the GPS track, the
flight plant thing, and he's just like, well, now we
can't flay anywhere. And he's like, which means we have
thirty how long? Sweety thirty second? It's thirty seconds to
get out of here while you die.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
My favorite is when he pulls it Outvalcolm goes weak, right, no, no,
it's super good. So yeah, they get out, the explosion goes,
but right before they leave, counth looks over and he
sees an axe next to him, So we we get
an idea that maybe he didn't die. They get outside,
the explosion is crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Unbelievably big and and yeah, just and loud.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
And cut to black. Six months later, and now we're
at a beautiful wedding, At a beautiful wedding of mcgroober
and Vicky. We see that Casey's ghost is there because
the preacher is like, if anybody thinks these two should
not meet, speak now, and Casey peeks around behind it,
and then we also see mcgoover's comrades. They're all ghosts
there too, like all and they're in tuxas. They're all happy,

(01:27:36):
so everything's going fine. Uh, And then he starts to
get a sense because everything's going just like how we
saw the last wedding go and he sees across the
way that Count now has an RPG. He fires it
right at them, kills the priest, which the priest dies
and both blows up wedding.

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
Nobody else gets blown up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Count swarms in on him. They get into a fistfight
and he, uh, mcgoober gets the best of him, and
he's like, cunt them, waiting you know, for a while
to say this time to suck your own dick and
he's like, come and get it, and he pulls his
pants down, revealing that kunt lost his dick in the explosion,
and he's so mad about it, so mad so that
he's like, are we done here? And mcgroop's like, we're
not done. Head butts him, beats him up, throws him
over the side of a cliff that they're on for

(01:28:12):
the wedding.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
Apparently, Yeah, the the trellis was in front of a cliff,
so he pushes him off the cliff, then grabs a
gun from Piper because Piper just has a rifle, and
as he's falling, he's shooting him full of holes as
he's low ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Then we cut the regular motion, still shooting him. He
hits the ground. We see him splat. Mcgoober goes, fuck
you dude, shoots off a rocket at him and then
turns around with the gun and goes, I do And
then we get well you forgot that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
Then he peas on his bot his body the corpse
and it starts raining and you see him just pissing
over the edge.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Yeah yeah, and then yeah mcgrooper, and then we get
pictures of the wedding. We see that mcgoover from Piper. Well.
Also the colonel survives somehow.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
Oh he's just in arms and shot at point blank range.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I love that. Ye, Piper gets him a radio, him
and Vicky share their first kiss and then fuck the
dance floor. There's also like shots of crime scene tape.
And also one of my all time favorites is the
bartender at the wedding is the guy from the coffee
shop that Vicky took the tip back from, and we
see mcgover's written a sign that says no tice. Oh
my gosh, no, it's it's it's a wacky flick.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
Mcgroover is a horrible human being, despicable well truly, but
it was a very funny movie. It's very I could
see why it didn't do very well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Oh yeah. In fact, do you uh do we wanna
do you wanna sew that that info budget on the
film was ten million. Opening weekend is May twenty third,
twenty ten. It comes in at four million, four hundred
or four million forty three thousand and then sitting weekend, Yeah,
that four million it did. Opening weekend US grossing was
eight million. Worldwide is nine million, three hundred and twenty

(01:29:48):
two thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
Dollars, David. That means that like a lot of people
went to see it opening weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Yeah. Oh, I've got a theater statistic for you. But
that like it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
It had no word of mouth. It fell off entirely.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Wow. Filmed in Albuquerque, New Mexico, suffered one of the
biggest theatrical falloffs in recent cinema history when it dropped
from two thousand and four five hundred and forty six
cinemas to only one hundred and seventy seven in the
US in just three weeks. Gross just shy of its
ten million dollar budget. Parade listed it as the second
biggest box office flop of twenty ten. Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:30:27):
That's brutal. Yeah, man, I I think it was a
little late for that style of humor.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
I think if it had come out in seven or eight,
it might have done a lot bigger business because this
being so raunchy, being so kind of mean spirited was
really kind of falling out of favor, because you know,
then Bride'smaids comes out and it's much more in that.
It kind of cemented that kind of like Appatawa adjacent comedies, Yeah,

(01:30:55):
where they were very similar in tone. I mean they
could be a little bit more wacky or ridiculous, but
that was really kind of the death knell of the
really wacky comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Lee David Zitlow, creator the TV series macgo mcgeiver, felt
that his legal right to make the film version of
the series was compromised with the release of Macgroober. His
lawyer sent several cease and assist letters to the production
company and met with litigators, although ultimately no legal action
was taken.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I got nothing on that's according to director Jorma Taconi.
The first draft was one hundred and seventy five pages.
Oh my god. Yeah, although rarely used. Mcgoover's first name
was Angus, but mcgoverer was never revealed. H Will Forte
said on Bill Burr's podcast that he was paid twelve
thousand dollars for the film.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
I'm sure he was going to get a great back
end when it was a huge success.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
When one of the Ecuadorian kids steals the necklace from Macgoober,
he says, uh cchup a excb c hup a m
e l o chupomilo jupemilo MacGruber. In Spanish, it means
suck at Macgrooeber. Oh yeah, yeah. Valkimer's line, sorry, I
don't speak Russian is easter egg a reference to Kilmer's
earlier movie The Saint, where he says that same line.

(01:32:10):
That's a I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Uh.
The journal, which contains the multiple pages of kfb R
three ninety two Piper Fines, was actually made by Will
Forte himself while on set. That's funny. Yeah, that was hilarious.
A major influence on the film was Die Hard from
nineteen eighty eight, which is director Jorman Tocmy's favorite movie.
To Coney actually located and used Prop C four explosives

(01:32:31):
from that movie for the action sequences in this one.
In addition, Balkilmer and Power's Booth were both told in
pre production meetings with Will Forte and to Comy to
act like your Inagel Silver produced film in nineteen ninety
eight or nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, they they hit that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
I honestly felt like they were really lampooning, like the
ninety eight ninety nine action movies that were really big.
But yeah, I could see that for sure, because yeah,
they were playing it huge and serious.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
The will Will Forte owned the Mazda Miata that mcgrueber
drives in the film. Forte revealed that he sold it
for fifty thousand dollars for charity, and he personally delivered
it to the buyer in Texas. The man who purchased
it then taught his son how to drive stick shift
and the Mazda. Forte also brought a Ruber's style costume
for the driver to wear.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
They were like, what's this costume from? And he's from
mcgruber and they're like, from what.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
The cast includes six active at the time, WWE wrestlers
Dlip Singh who was the Great Cali, Glenn Jacobs who
was Kine, Paul Wright who was the Big Show, Mark
Henry Chris Jericho, and Antonio Burke Junior MVP. That was
a great touch, yeah. Will Forte refused a body double
for the controversial sex scene between Mgruber and Vicki Selham

(01:33:35):
Saint Elmo. However, he surprised to Comy by expressing some
discomfort at the number of people who were on set
at the time. Tacomy then said he didn't know Forte
cared about being naked in front of strangers.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
Well, you know, that's the way to find out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Kristin Wiggs shot her sex scene on her birthday. In
the first sex scene, Vicky is constantly moving her head
side to side. The reason is because Will Forte's sweat
was dripping onto Kristin Wig. Director to comy, I assumed
he would get an NC seventeen rating because of the
sex scenes. Maya Rudolph was about eight months pregnant when
she shot her scenes at mcgroover's as mcgoover's wife.

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
Yeah, they did keep her. Yeah, yeah, I could see
that they were hiding something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Val Kilmer and Will Forte almost ended up being on
CBS hit series The Amazing Race because of the film,
where they became good friends. Kilmer later stayed at Forte's
house for a few months while searching for a new
LA based home for himself and Forte. A huge film
of Tar introduced Kilmer to the show. They were about
to apply as a team when the other work commitments
led to the idea being dropped. Basically, their agent said, no,

(01:34:35):
you can find a whole article on it that I
think it was. Variety did recently. Powers Booth and Val
Kilmer also appeared together in Tombstone in ninety three on
the Lonely Island. Set and Seth Meyer's podcast Tacomy said
the two of them kept the comedy stars all huge
Tombstone fans enraptured with behind the scenes stories about the movie.
Oh yeah, yeah that makes sense. And lastly, among Christopher

(01:34:56):
Nolan's favorite comedies, he quoted it constantly on the set
of The Dark Night Rises. Wow, I got nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
What are your final thoughts on twenty ten's mcgroober.

Speaker 5 (01:35:08):
It's a stream it. Yeah, it wasn't earth shattering. It's
definitely like it was out of step even when it
came out, which I think is why it just died. Yeah,
a horrible death.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
But it was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
It had some charm to it. I was there were
parts where I was like, man, how are they going
to try? And how are they gonna make me come
back for mcgruber because they keep like having Piper not
actually die helped? Yeah, and then the sex scene being
so embarrassing helped. But I kind of wish he had
been dumber a little more often. Yeah, I really got
to kick out of it. I think, you know, if
you want some dumb fun and you don't mind a

(01:35:41):
little bit of a mean, raunchy comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Yeah it's worth watching. Yeah, it's a streaming for me too.
This is a very particular comedy. You really have to
love the raunchiness, you have to love the absolute stupid
comedies to really get into this one. But this is
just one of those movies that if you haven't seen him,
been curious about. If you're curious, check it out. You
might like it, or it might be something that is bad.

Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
I'm glad I checked it out and we watched the
unrated version.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Two. Yes, we did so. We always like get in
the show. With a couple of recommendations, I have two
this week, starting with two thousand and eight Tropic Thunder,
currently available on Hulu and Paramount Plus. Through a series
of freak occurrences, a group of actors shooting a big
budget war movie are forced to become the soldiers that
they are portraying. I Do love me some Traffic Thunder,
And second, I'm going to go with another Val Kilmer
classic Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang from two thousand and five,

(01:36:26):
currently rentable on Prime Video and Fandango. After being mistaken
for an actor, a New York thief is sent to
Hollywood to train under a private eye for a potential
movie role, but the duo are thrown together with a
struggling actress into a murder mystery. One of Shane Black's
most underrated movies. That we had to say, so.

Speaker 5 (01:36:42):
After watching it, I had to come up with, you know, yeah,
one and there was one movie that popped into my
head immediately, and I think it's it's a comedy film,
and I think it did an even better job of
a really like hateable character. Yeah, and that is two
thousand and six is the Foot Fist. I almost picked that,
but I was gonna let you have that actually, directed

(01:37:03):
by Jody Hill, who went on to become well known
for Observe and Report, but of course more so his
HBO series like Eastbound and Down, Vice Principles and The
Right Ended Righteous Gens Gemstone. Yep, and it stars Danny McBride,
and the description is an inept taekwondo instructor struggles with
marital troubles and an unhealthy obsession with fellow taekwondo enthusiast

(01:37:25):
Chuck the truck Wallace. That doesn't even begin to the
thing is Danny McBride is so good at playing somebody
who you could never like, and somehow getting you to
like him. Yeah, and this was the first film that
really established that type of comedy that he and Jody
Hill would kind of become famous for, of having characters
who are deeply flawed and deeply ego maniacal, but somehow

(01:37:49):
you still still like them end up liking them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
And The Foot Fist Way is a great one, especially
if you're a fan of those series. Then it's a
really great example because this was made before Danny McBride
was much of anything as an actor. This was him
and his buddies from film school in North Carolina who
all got together and made this movie. It's currently streaming
for free on Pluto TV or you can rent it
on Prime Video. Really really funny, underrated movie.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
And I would piggyback off that because it just kind
of brought me back. If you want a darker version
of The Foot Fist Way, I would go with the
Art of Self Defense with Michael Sira.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
It's a phenomenal movie. Yeah, it's not Michael Sarah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Not Michael Sarah, it's the other guy, Jesse Eisenberg. But no, Jad,
the Art of Self Defense was one that you showed
me or texted me that I needed to watch immediately.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
That's a phenomenal, phenomenal movie.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
But darker.

Speaker 5 (01:38:34):
Yeah, well it's not. It's totally different. It's just but
it's except that it has the same setting. Yeah, but
it's very very dark, very weird, very clever.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I really loved it. So, do we have any emails
this week? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
We do?

Speaker 5 (01:38:46):
We do have we have an email if I can
open it, there we go. This is from our buddy Birdman.
Oh so it says the headline ear headline subject is
good for mental health. Hey, Hen and Dave. As always,
I'm glad to be listening to the podcast again now
that I'm enjoying my freedom after being trapped inside for
three months due to a broken wheelchair.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Yeah, a rough go.

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
So I was listening to the latest show on Carrie.
I really enjoyed the conversation and it donned, Uh, it
dawned on. It dawned for a suggestion for a theme month.
Oh quote, it's good to be the King and it's
only Stephen King adaptations, but preferably lesser known ones.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
I really like that idea. I like it a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
I also that made me have an idea, we should
do it. We should do a theme that's I can't
believe it's not Stephen King and should be any movie
that like really feels like it's Stephen King and it's
totally all greaser movies. So like Pumpkinhead two, there are
other ones. There are quite a few, anyway, could be
amazing to hear you guys talk about those adaptations and
learn something new. That's a really good idea, that's a

(01:39:50):
really and this is the first time we had a
month's suggestion like one like one of your other writers.
I also use this podcast as a form of good
mental health for myself. I often find myself going out
to explore my local community and throwing on an episode.
It's almost like the pair of you are walking alongside
with me and just talking in the taking in the conversation.
I know I've said this before, but one of the

(01:40:11):
greatest strengths this podcast has over many others is the
authentic and genuine nature of both of you. It's a
true gift to have. That's very sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
I'm very sweet. Shut up, David, no, I'm talking.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
I don't know if I ever tell you both this enough,
but I'm always grateful to have gotten to know you
both as friends, but also who collab with me in
many different ways. Someday I promise massive bro hugs to
you both for the immeasurable ways you have both brought
joy and creativity to me. Someday I hope to hear
you tackle my suggestions, but I'm always glad to hear
whatever is served up next and I almost always listen

(01:40:42):
early on Patreon top tier sub motherfucker lol. Be well,
my friends, and until next time, be excellent to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Mike awesome ber Man. Always great to hear from you,
Always great to do a show with you as well,
and I promise Dungeons and Dragons some version of it
is coming to the show at some point.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
And for those listening who love pop culture podcasts, you
should check out this week in Geek that's a Birdman's
podcast and it's really really great. Love you and I
have both been on there a bunch of times yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
And if you guys want to email us, by the way,
you can do so at do you evenmoviepod at gmail
dot com or go to dooevenmovie dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
That's the way to get a hold of us. And
we do love hearing from you guys. Emails like that
really do mean the world, especially when I'm doing the show,
even with a horrible ear infection or at this point
a moderate ear infection. It is appreciated to hear a
little something positive about what we're doing. It does mean
a lot to us. I also want to mention, if

(01:41:38):
you love what we're doing here, make sure you subscribe
either on your podcasting app or on YouTube. If you're
watching this with your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Yes, And would you like to know what we are
talking about next week? Perhaps? Well, guess what, because we
are coming on my birthday pick week because it's coming up,
so we are going to be discussing nineteen ninety seven's
wish Master. Oh all right. I mean it's been a
while since I've revisited wish Master. I love that movie
currently available on Plex, Pluto, Roku. There's a beautiful set

(01:42:08):
that Vestron put out a couple of years back. That
is all four of them a really really good deal
for honestly several good movies. Wish Master is undeniably the
best of them.

Speaker 5 (01:42:18):
I enjoyed two quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
It was good. I mean, any of them would dive off.
The first two would div off for fantastic when they
go to the Power Ranger looking wish Master, I got.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
A problem, Wow, hateful Dave over here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
But yeah, we're gonna be talking about wish Master from
nine to ninety seven. Just a lot of fun in
that movie. That's gonna be discussed on that one.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
And speaking of fun, we're about to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
We're gonna go.

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
I'm gonna go take David to finally see Fight or
Flight before it leaves the theater. I think it's gonna
be quite an experience for you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
So I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (01:42:46):
He'll give you all y'all full report next week.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Yes I shall.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
So with all that being said, you know, we're not
going to talk about butts NonStop. Like the Grover Man
they talk about butts constantly, and they.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Talk about butts a lot, a lot of butts in
I would like to say Val Kilmer's film filmography, if
you have not looked at it or missing some spots
on it, there's a lot of good things on there
to be discovered. Like I said, Kill Me Again was
one I just found just looking on Prime. I cannot
recommend thunder hard enough, even his appearance in True Romance
as Elvis character. People forget that's him. I mean, he

(01:43:19):
was always a really, really good actor. The movies may
not have been up to par in a Doctor Moreau
still entertaining to watch.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
Well, he was becoming the biggest star in the world
for a minute there, and he got a pretty bad
reputation for a while because of it. Yeah, but I'm
happy to see that people are appreciating him and missing him.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
He deserves it. Yeah, and if you have not seen
his documentary Vow currently on Prime, I cannot recommend that
documentary enough. He'll get a really humanistic look into him
and also see that this Mark Twain show that he
was doing really goold had taken him to the next
If you would have stuck around with.

Speaker 5 (01:43:48):
Us, Yeah, I need to watch it. It's just probably sad.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
I would. That's extremely sad. I cried basically the last
hour of it, because yeah, once they get into that
section of it, it gets really sad. But yeah, Val Kilmer,
we will miss you, but thank you for leaving behind
an incredible body of work.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
Absolutely, and thank you guys so much for joining us
not only tonight but hopefully for the whole month. As
we've been talking about great films featuring people that are
no longer with us, and unfortunately that list grows and
grows because film is only movies are only getting.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Older, and we just lost. Unfortunately, we found out George
Went today as well too. Yeah, that one, that one
that sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
I've never heard a negative word about him, and but
I think eventually we should do King of the n
Not only him, but how incredible Stuart Gordon's body of
work is and how much of it is underappreciated. And
that's the shocking thing. People remember, like a couple of
the big ones, we made a lot of great movies,
a lot of great movies.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:44:43):
So but without all that said, we're going to get
out of here. So we hope you all have a
good week.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
We will of course see you next but grub But
until then, guys,

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