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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Show Rock and Roll.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
One hundred percent pure Action, one hundred percent Your Adventure,
one hundred percent pure excitement, one pure adrenaline. Backtrick Spoyz
Keanu Reeves Point Break raded R starts Friday, July twelve
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at theaters.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Everywhere in a world where podcasts reign supreme. Two Friends
Dare to Ask, Do You Even?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Movie, hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David
de Noyer.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Spoiler alert, So David, so hend, It's been an interesting
week already, it sounds like it.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I was telling you before the show that I just
barely chipped a mole in the back of my mouth,
which is, I'm gonna be honest, very disappointing because it
couldn't have happened one of the many times I was
like eating something stupid or really solid, but no, I
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was just eating a regular meal and then I noticed, Hey,
the back of my tooth feels weird and jagged, which
makes me think it was like, oh, is it something stuck?
And then I realized, oh no, there's less too less. Yeah,
so it doesn't hurt at all, so which my dentist
was thrilled to hear, which meant they could wait a
couple of days.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So you said, what did you break it on? Now,
you have no idea, because.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I was eating salmon and potatoes.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I broke a molar one time on a subway sandwich
back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
When you say broke a molar.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, they broke in the middle like the tooth went.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
So I had a upfront molar split. Yeah, split so
badly that there was no way to crown it. Oh god, okay,
well that's why I got the implant.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
And that was while eating a hot head burrito bowl
and one over or under cooked, under cooked piece of
rice got right in there and and just it split
it to the point where it hurt immensely all the time.
And they had to pull it and then drill in
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and do a bone graft and all that fun stuff. Because,
as is important to point out, I am very vain.
So the moment they were like, oh you're going to
use this, you know, this molar right here, I was like,
the hell, I'm not going to have a tooth. And then,
of course for four months I had no tooth while
they were doing it. Because it's a whole process. They
have to take the tooth out, and of course it
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got infected. This was right around when I was having
my gall ladder taken out. So the dentist was like,
I guess the second your surgeon says you can have
this done, which is about five days after the surgery.
So they pulled it out, cleared out the infection, and
then they had to put in a bone graft, and
then they put in a screw and they let the
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bone graft around the screw. Now they've drilled in and
basically put a screw in there, and then the bone
grafts around it. Then after about a month or so,
they cut open that spot that they stitch shut and
take the screw out, and then they screw in what's
called a healing cuff. And the cuff is basically a
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bolt that encourages your gums to heal around it a
little bit so that your gum is kind of protruded.
So then you wear that for like three months, three
or four months. I think the tricky thing is I
was very young to be getting one, so they told
me like, this is eight month process, and it ended
up being done in like five. That's good because they
would they would check me every three weeks or so
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and see how the healing progress was. Yeah, and when
they saw it was they were like, oh, we could
do it sooner. So then they unscrew that screw in
a new screw that is just a metal peg, and
that's what the actual implant is. And then they put
a crown, like a normal crown, just on the implant.
So the so the peg is what replaces like when
you have a normal crown put on like you've had
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where they shave down the tooth. After they do the
root canal, they shave down the tooth. So it's funny
because when I tap it, it's just there's no It's
goes straight to my bone. And I was going to
because it's pretty expensive. I was going to get a bridge,
but they were like, you're too young because bridges will
rub against the other teeth, and like, we don't recommend
it to people under forty or fifty.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's usually an elder treatment sometimes.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Well now, when my mother was my age, that was
the only thing they could do, so she had a
bridge for a really long time. That annoyed her and
I forget. I think they did an implant eventually or something.
They upgraded it but uh but no, but like we're talking,
I think it ended up being four thousand dollars. Yeah,
I mean I had a payment plan and stuff, but like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Me, that's what i've payment plans are what I do anymore.
Because when I when I did I tell you why
I left my dentist, The last ouse I want to.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Was he wasn't screwing around on you. Wasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, wasn't that I have a I have a tooth missing,
one of my one of my molars is missing because
I had it pulled and just never got had anything
done with it.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yeah. I mean, you can get away with that, especially
in the back of your mouth.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's long as long as it's not seen. Like it's
not until I go like that that you can see it.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Oh wait, you mean the upfront. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah yeah, and now everybody's seen that too.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Yeah. But uh no, that's your hillbilly angle.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, they were get my hillbilly angle. But yeah. So
the dentist was just like, he's like, oh, because I
had it done like a year, a couple of years
before I'd gone to Disappointment specifically, and he was like, oh,
He's like, we got to get something in there because
the tooth can go in slanted, like your teeth can
go slanted if nothing holding it there.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, because your teeth shift, I mean,
or you could have you could sleep in a retainer.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah. So so they went and they went and got
all the testing and everything done, and then or like
all the bill worked up and everything, and they would
not let me have a payment plan. They wanted it
all up front. So I was like, well, deuces, and
then found my dentist that I've been going to now
for three years.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Well it's funny my dentist only did a payment plan
because I have been a customer at that point for
twenty seven years.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I'd been going to this place specifically, probably since I
was probably like thirteen.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Yeah, I've been going to mine since I was six. Yeah,
and it wasn't even the original owner. Yeah. But when
when it was all set up, the only tricky part
was there were certain elements that had to be paid
up front. Yeah, like but it was like three hundred
bucks right now because it was for materials, they basically
let me finance the labor.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The problem that I had was, right around the time
all this was going on, that payment upfront thing, which
they had never asked for that before I'd usually been
able to be on payment plans, which is how I'd
how i'd been getting things done, and that one specifically
they wouldn't leally do it. And it was also just
right around the time they started doing this new expansion
on a wing.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Well, I also imagine a lot of places aren't doing
payment plans anymore because now they'll just tell you should
get a care of credit card, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Which I mean this was before that.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
So yeah, that's become very popular. But so yeah, I
got that new tooth and all that. But yeah, so
this one, my mom was like'll they'll probably just shave
it smooth and call it a day because I just
had to check up a month and a half ago,
so I know that my X rays are good.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Fine.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Yeah, so there's no way it's all the sudden gone
horribly wrong. But I remember no joke when I came
in and they were like, the tooth has to go.
I'm not kidding. My hygienist, who had been my hygienist
for thirteen years, Yeah, she cried a little because she
was like, your teeth are so perfect and you take
such good care of them, this is such bull crap
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because because it was such a fluke, yeah, you know,
it just split right in the middle, and and and
her like a bitch. So but the funny part was
like after we'd worked out everything. I remember, after they
put the healing cuffin or whatever, I was like, can
I get a temporary or something just to kind of
hold over it? And he was like, my dentist is
a funny guy. But he was just kind of like, well,
guess it depends on how vain you you are, Like,
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are you four hundred and fifty dollars more vain? You know? Vain?
And I was like, no, not with how much I'm
spending already. He was like, good call, not worth it.
And I was like, okay, fine. So I just smiled
funny and that's fair. Just smiled one half. I just
pulled an Elvis Presley.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I think the worst teeth fan I've ever had was
I was in college and I was eating a piece
of pie and I had gotten to the crust and
something had happened to where it felt like it had
like slid under a tooth almost. I can't remember what
specifically happened, but it turned out to be a sign
that my wisdom teeth had to come out. It was
the most painful fucking experience.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
My wisdom teeth were so bad that via X rays
one I was like fourteen and fifteen, they were like,
those are gonna all be impacted. So I didn't even
start having discomfort. They just after my braces were off.
They pretty much scheduled. They were like, all right, five months,
we're gonna just cut those out.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I was twenty. I was exactly eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I had maybe been three months into being eighteen because
they had to cut them all out. I had to
go under anesthesia and everything four of mine out at
the same time, all four of mine as well, and
it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
The worst part was waking so I had gone, i'd
been I was in college. I went to go stay
at my parents' house for that time because I was
the dentist was in their town whatnot, or the surgeon
was in their town. And I remember the only thing
that was like really unpleasant about the whole experience was
the first time I woke up after going home and
sleeping after the initial operation and waking up and like
there was just saliva blood on my pillow.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Yeah, you had a little bit of saliva in your blood. Yeah,
that was the joke I had the first time I
spit after the surgery. I was like, oh, there's a
little bit of spit in my blood.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well then I ever tell you the stupid faux pa
I did when I got the one. When I got
one of them pulled, they you know, had put gauze
to'll hold it in there. I was taking the gauze
because they were like, you know, it's gonna bleed for
a little bit, so you know, leave it on for
about an hour or so. I was breaking the the blood.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
What's the word scab, Well, it's not a scab, the.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Sutures essentially, but like I'm trying to the clot the clock.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, the clot.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Breaking the clot twice before because I went to go
spit and I was like, that's a lot of blood.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
They only had you have the gauze in for a
little while because I had the I had the thing
where they had you had to change it every two
hours for a day.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
When they pulled the tooth, they sent me they had
not oh.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
They pulled it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
They pulled it. Yeah, Oh hold it.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Okay, because are we talking about different tooth. Yeah, oh sorry, sorry,
I was still thinking about about uh uh please know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So they yeah, they had pulled it and they gave
it sent me hold the guze. So yeah, twice I
was like going to spit in the sink after you know,
waiting a bit, and I was like, that's still a
lot of blood. Turned out I was putting it on
way too hard. Yeah, and that was so when I
took it off, it just ripped it right open again.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah. That was one nice thing about the the implant
was they sowed it shut. Yeah, so it didn't really
mess around. I couldn't really mess with it, you know.
It was it was closed and they put a membrane
over it so it never bled at all, which was
really nice. And it really didn't hurt much. I mean,
like they well you remember because the night before they
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so they gave me. Now, I I mean, for the
listeners who don't know, I am, you know, the epitome
of lightweight in the colloquial term, because they gave me
my my my mom calls me pill shy. I don't
like to take things. I've changed as life has gone on.
When I when I had my gallbladder go bad. I
was like, give me am vicodin, like you motherfuckers give
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but but that wasn't a vicodin the brons and that's
related to the tooth he gave me. He said, are
you gonna be driving yourself? I was like no, He's like,
take the valium because he was like, I'm gonna give
you a valuum because he was like, it's not even
about anxiety or pain. You're gonna be in this chair
for between two and four hours. Take the valume. It'll
help you relax. But he gave me one for the
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night before and one to take a half an hour
before I came to the office. And that first one
was when you and I watched Murphy's Laws, and yeah,
I had quite a time with that one little tiny valum.
And then the next day I took it and I'll
never forget laying in the dentist's chair and they put
a white sheet basically surgical sheet over your face that
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only shows your mouth because from what I understood, the
reason they do that is while it's not a very
painful procedure because they're drilling into your jawbone and stuff,
it's very bloody and gross, so they don't want you
to see it in panic. So they're like, this way,
if you open your eyes, you just see white because
the lights are all on you, so you just see
bright white. But they were like are you comfortable? And
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I was literally falling asleep, like taking a nap, because
at one point I remember laying there and thinking, oh,
they haven't asked me to hold my mouth. They're like,
open I had in a while, I bet I could,
just like for real, like it was. It was really
not bad. They did a phenomenal job. And then my
favorite part, because I do like my dentist a lot,
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is after all of that, I come in and they
have the crown. They pop it on and this was
before now they print the crown in the building, but
they used to have to send it to a lab
in Cincinnati, puts it in, gets it on there, and
then has me to a BikeE plate and he's like,
I'm sorry, I'm gonna to send it back. It's just
a little too small. And if it was too big,
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I could shape it, but I can't make it bigger.
And I was like oh, and he was like, I know,
what's disappointing. They should have it in and about it.
We'll have it in two weeks or so. I'll call
you the moment we get it, and we'll get you
in here. Yeah, And he was like, I just don't
want you damn in my name every time you eat
a steak. And I was like, oh, because getting stuff
stuck in there is a real pain, and and flossing
it's super weird because you go up and over.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
So anyway that there was a reason behind that other
than just telling a funny anecdote about my if. I
also burned the hell out of my hand while I
was making a fratata last night. Worth it. That was
one of the best fritatas I've ever made. It had
roasted pablanos from the garden. It had a roasted red
pepper from the farmer's market and a roasted hobonnaro in it,
and then also you know, cheese and eggs and all
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that shit, and it was just really good. But I
freaking I was trying to flip it perfect and I
grabbed the handle to move it out of the way
really fast and like screamed out in pain and went,
oh right, it was in the oven for eighteen minutes,
so you know. It actually not the worst burn I've
ever had by any stretch. But it shur did it hurt? Well,
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that's a good thing. The less it hurts, the more
damage there is. But that is all to say. I've
not been able to slow anything down, you know, just
because my hand hurt. So I've been working on the house,
and I've been working on the studio, and I've been
working on my podcast. So today, as we're recording this,
one of the clips from the podcast posted on my Facebook,
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you know, public page, not my personal page, but like
my public page, and some guy commented, some total stranger
from Sweden, and all he said was I'm paraphrasing, but
all he said was something along the lines of like, hey,
we did it. We found the worst facial hair in
the world. And I was like, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like the YouTube the YouTube channels as well as like, yeah,
just seems like people are commenting on the appearance and
then the facial hair.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Yeah. But my favorite part was so he said that, yeah,
So I tried to diffuse with humor. So I replied,
and I said, do you think that's bad? You see
my personality? But then I'm in pain. I'm annoyed. I'm overworked.
I went on his profile, and I'm not kidding. His
profile had one post from four days ago that I
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could see publicly that just said something along the lines
of summer is just a summer is just an excuse?
Or is just the time when the weather gets warm
and you sweat and be alone and that's all it is.
Like it was depressing, okay, and it had two like
care reacts to it, and that was it. And I
was like, you know, I don't know this guy, but
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fuck him. So I laugh reacted it and that was
just a little treat for me. I mean, it's bad
enough he lives in Sweden. You know, I could have
been really mean and just commented like, hey, they euthanize
people there now, so like, just go do it like
it's free.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
But I've got a question for you. Oh so, unfortunately,
as we are recording this on this day, we did
find out that we lost the great Ozzy Osbourne. And
I'm just curious, when did Ozzie come into your life?
When did you become aware of Ozzy?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, because there's what the six seven year gap
between us.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
I don't think I had ever. I mean, I just
had a father who was in a fucking there was
a biker.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I figured that was it.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
I like every second I don't remember not knowing who
Ozzie is, so.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I literally was thinking about this today. Osbourne's came on
in two thousand and one. That was the reality show,
So I mean, I knew who Ozzie was, but I
I came late to rock music that wasn't kiss or
stuff that was played on WTUE, which Ozzie was.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I was gonna say that was.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But the problem was is I guess I just wasn't aware.
I remember the first time I heard Crazy Train, and
I actually thought about this today, was in it was
either second or third grade. I think it was third grade.
We had a music teacher that when it was your birthday,
you could bring in a song to play for your birthday,
like for the class and everything. Like they would like
take the CD or the cassette and pop it in
the stereo, right and uh. He had brought in his
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Ozzie's grade states and played Crazy Train for the first
time for me, Like that was the first time I
had ever heard Crazy Train, and that was how I
became aware of Ozzy from that point on. Then you
know fast forward four or five years later, I'm watching
Trick or Treat for the first time and see him
as well. It was just kind of funny because, like,
I'm just curious because like I came to Ozzie really late,
but like he had, he had been around so fucking long,
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and I mean the legacy that he left behind and everything,
it's just I mean, it's yeah, it's it's incredible.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
No, I mean oz he was ubiquitous, and I mean
in my time he was pretty much over yeah, I
mean musician wise, yeah, And but that reality show just
kind of made him last, popped him back kind.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Of forever well because he him and Sabbath had started
the late sixties early seventies, and then his solo career
took off like right around early eighties, I want to say,
with like bliss of the os, and I mean he
had basically No More Tears, which is one of my
all time favorite albums, if not the favorite album of his, yeah,
was ninety one, and he had basically made that album
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as a farewell even when he like the No More
Tears tour was technically a farewell tour, the retirement tour,
and then he actually got so bored in retirement, he
came back and started doing tours again and put out
more albums.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
That sounds about right, Yeah, no, uh yeah, I was.
There was always Black Sabbath playing in the car with
my dad, so he was always around him. And you know,
The Grateful Dead and Alice Cooper.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I just always think of whenever I think got I
think of the scene in Little Nikki when he's when
they summoned Ozzy towards the end and Nicky has to
die to go back to Hell to get his brothers,
and Ozzie just walks over the giant rock and goes
here kill him with this.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, I mean he was.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
He was at that point, you know, a self referential
cultural Oh yeah, phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
He's in fucking gold number.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yeah. No, he was in like everything.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He had multiple commercials. I mean he him and Jack
did a reality show like not even five years ago.
That's what is it? Jack and Ozzie. I can't remember
what the title of it was, but they just traveled
to a bunch of places and learned the history of it.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, but no, I was just it was just one
of those things like I he had just had his
farewell or his like his big farewell concert, like seventeen
days ago, and.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Oh wow, I thought it was very rare.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It was very recent, and I mean he had put
out a video a little beforehand basically saying that he
was aware that he was dying and that he knew
that like the time was coming, and I think that's
why they all came together as they did. But yeah,
I mean, I was just it was just kind of
still shocking to hear of his passing today. But I
mean absolute legend icon that. I mean, I still will
listen to probably till I die for that matter.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That's short, huh, that's short, fair enough. No, No More
Tears is probably my favorite album. Close to that would
be Blizz of the OZ. Next to that would probably
be Over the Mountain, which is Ibra Madman. So yeah,
I mean a lot of good songs, a lot of
great a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, no Ozzy, Yeah, definitely, It's hard to say much
because he was just he was just a part of
the culture. Yeah, I'll never forget that SNL skit they
did about him where you couldn't understand a word he
was saying. So then they had him saying what he
was like his personal problems so that people could understand
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what he was saying. I thought. I think Horatio Sands
played it and it was very, very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Did you ever hear the story about why he stopped
doing acid? Just acid specifically, he had taken ten tabs
one night, and this is like late seventies, early eighties.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Of this time. That's I mean, I'm not a doctor,
but that's a lot of ass.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
A lot of acid. Apparently, he wandered out into a
field and he had a conversation with a horse for
a couple hours, to which point the horse ended the
conversation by telling him to fuck off and then walking away.
And shortly after that Ozzie realizes he didn't want to
do ask anymore.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
It's like a fairy tale. It's like a fairy tale.
Geez no.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Like if you've never seen The Decline of the Western
Civilization Part two, which is the heavy metal documentary they did,
Ozzy has an infamous bitten there where he's making like
a breakfast like shake or whatever, and it's like orange juice, pills, vodka,
like all this stuff right in front of the cars.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Some people just don't die when they do that much.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
In fact, that Keith Richards has survived Ozzy I think
then says everything.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
It just makes me think of Chris Hartnett and not
Chris Harttt. Chris Hartnett in the plane movie in a
Fight or Flight.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh oh, Josh hart Josh Hartnett.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Sorry, it just makes a think of him when he
when they drug him and he's like, you can't. I
guess you can't, pickle, pickle.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's so good. Then then he has all those hallucinations.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
That's that movie was so underrated. It was that was
such a great time.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The director popped up on the movies that made me
last week did an episode. I think you talked about
ten movies you so it's pretty good episode. Nice that was.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
That was his first movie, his first feature, because he
was a stunt coordinator. Yep. Yeah, well and you could
tell because the stunts are insane and oclate.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, speaking of insane stunts.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
We are wrapping up lives of each month this this
week with our final movie for the month of July,
and that is going to be one that I mean,
this has been a long time favorite of mine and
I knew we like this is like this. I think
this is the second time that we talked about doing
on the show, that we're actually doing it this time,
and that is nineteen ninety one's Point Break.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yes, we're legendary film. Legendary, A legendary bromance film.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Legendary bromance film.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, so two hours and two minutes. Rated R for
violent language and brief nudity. I'mb synopsis says an FBI
agent goes undercover to catch a gang of surfers who
may be bank robbers. Hmmm, my synopmsis not much better.
My synopsis FBI agent Johnny Utah is and over his
head when he goes undercover to infiltrate a gang of
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surfers who may also be the infamous bank robbers, the
ex presidents. I just got more specific, Yeah, just a
little bit more specific taglines this week. Yeah, give me
some hit them only two oh one hundred percent adrenaline.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
That's a pretty solid tagline.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Twenty seven banks in three years, anything to catch the
perfect Waves.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Okay, the first one's better, but it's also a little generic. Yeah,
but I'll give it. That was all right.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Point Break currently available on Paramount Plus, Fossom Plex, Pluto,
Roku and two be Currently as well. There's also a
beautiful four K that uh Shout Factory just put out
recently as well. And you can get the Blu rays
pretty cheap on this one as well.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Yeah. Yeah, it's It's been everywhere for a while. I
mean a lot of those classic Swayzee films. Yeah. And
by classic I mean you know Roadhouse and Ghost and
you know they and Dirty Dancing. They always are around.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh, they're always around.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I think I've owned point Break has won this. Yeah,
had it on BHS, had on, had it on two DVDs.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Ray, it wouldn't fit on one.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I haven't got the four K yet. I have a
four K file now or a copy digital digital copy. Yes.
A director on the film is Catherine big Low. She
gets her start as a director in nineteen seventy eight
on The Setup, goes on to shoot The Lovelass, the
William de Faux movie in eighty one, goes on to
do Near Dark in eighty seven. After that, shoots the
or directs the new order video for Touched by the
(24:41):
Hand of God in eighty seven, then also directs in
nineteen ninety Blue Steel. Oh, I like Blue Steel, Blu Steel,
I forget Blue Steel came be four point Break.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Oh yeah, very underrated, very uterrated. Yeah, that's a good one.
The Jamie Lee Curtis copys. I like that one, top tier,
slimy Ron silver, Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Then we also Point Break in nineteen ninety one, follows
that up with Wild Palms, then Strange Days, which is
a requested episode in nineteen ninety five, follows that up
with Homicide Life on the Street in ninety nine, then
shoots The Weight of Water in two thousand, directs K
nineteen Window Maker in two thousand and two.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
I just watched that for the first time a few
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know what, it was a great double feature with
that one. What's that five S one?
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Oh yeah, that'd be good. It'd be a good double feature.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What'd you think of it?
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
I liked it. It's so sad. Yeah. For those who
don't know, it's basically, when the Soviet Union fell, an
immense amount of stuff became declassified, including this true story
about a nuclear one of the first nuclear sub that
Russia had ever made or the Soviet Union made, and
how it began to fall apart. Basically, and this is
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the you know, somewhat true account of how it all happened,
so accurate, and it's a it's portrayaler attempted to be
accurate that it was the only narrative feature film produced
by National Geographic.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
No shit.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I noticed their logo at the beginning and I was like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's crazy because yeah, it wasn't called The Widow Maker
for a nice reason.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Well it was only called that way later anyway, and
mostly by our side of the world.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That makes sense.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Actually, yeah, basically everybody on that ship got a degree
of radiation poisoning.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
That was from from not surviving at all to surviving
for ten years, twenty years. It was uh, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like there's that story that was about the women in
the I think it's the forties that were painting the
watches with camera was lead pain, but it was the
paint that glowed in the dark uranium. It was uranium.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they used like a like a uranium
because they used to put a little bit of uranium
in teeth, yep, in fake teeth.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Well, because there was and I don't know how true
it was. It was a thousand ways to die. But
they were showing like one woman was going home and
like painting her body for her husband and whatnot, and
like that was how they got exposed.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
To That sounds like a Thousand Ways to Die by TV. Yeah,
at its finest Manser Mansers.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So this Kate nineteen Widow in two thousand and two,
follows that up with Karen Cisco in two thousand and four,
followed by Mission Zero two thousand and seven, The hurt
Locker in two thousand and eight, directs The Miraculous Year
in twenty eleven's Euro Dark thirty and twenty twelve, Last
Days in twenty fourteen, The Protectors in twenty seventeen, Detroit
in twenty seventeen, which I haven't seen, but I have
and I've heard it's really good.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
I've heard nothing but good things, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And the last directorial for her was Apple iPhone thirteen
pro commercial, which is I think the one that's the movies,
the one that they show at Cinemark.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Huh yeah, huh. I could be wrong, but I think
I thought that one was made by students. That one
is the one that was like the contest.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
No, no, I'm thinking I'm thinking of the one the
phones and horror movies and acts.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Oh, that one. I got you, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, writer on the film. We have two of them.
The first one is Rick King. He gets to start
as a writer in nineteen seventy eight or nineteen seventy
seven with Off the Wall, which he also directs, Hard
Choices in eighty four, which he also directs, Hot Shot
in eighty six, which he also directs, writes Point Break
in ninety one, Treasure Seekers in ninety nine, Avoiding Army
d in two thousand and three, which he also directs,
Voices in War Time in two thousand and five, also
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directs that Digging for the Truth Sherman's March two thousand
and seven, Treasure re Quest in two thousand and nine,
Shark Week in twenty ten, which also directs, and Point
Break remake in twenty fifteen. Gets credit for characters. Of course.
Of course, also directed The Killing Time in eighty seven,
which is a key for Sutherland. Movie that I've heard
is phenomenal, but I have not seen it yet. I
might have seen that the cover is him like kind
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of lounging with a gun on his chest. Then you've
got Vietnam War Stories in eighty seven, directs Forced March
in eighty nine. Then in nineteen ninety directs Prayer of
the roller Boys. Are you not familiar? Oh god, this
is Corey Haim, evil rollerblading Nazi movie.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Oh yeah, you had never been released on DVD. You
can only get it like VHS or through rips and whatnot.
It's also usually paired side by side with Solar Babies.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Oh wow, okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So Prayer the roller Boys in nineteen ninety, Kickboxer three,
Art of War in nineteen ninety two follows that up,
directing Kick Quick in nineteen ninety three, A Passion to
Kill in nineteen ninety four, Vanishing Son in ninety five,
Terminal Justice in ninety six, Catherines Grove in ninety seven,
and Road Ends in ninety seven. And yes, those are
some of those erotic thrillations. Some of those are just
straight to video action movies.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
That's what's up. That's what's up nineteen nineties. Baby.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
The other writer is W. Peter Illef, and he gets
to start as a writer in nineteen ninety writing Prayer
of the roller Boys. Okay, then goes on to Right
Point Break in ninety one, Patriot Games in ninety two,
episode of talesrom to cripin eighty nine, which was Till
Death Do Us Part.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Nice, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
That is a good one, Blade Squad in ninety eight,
Varsity Blues in ninety nine. Oh Okay, writes under Suspicion
in two thousand, Rites of Passage in twenty twelve, which
have you seen? Writes of Passage with Christian Slater where
he does meth to the point that he has a
talking monkey puppet throughout the movie.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
I can't say I have seen that not a good movie. Oh,
entertaining that for that value, I mean, yeah, that seems
like it would bring a lot of entertainers. There's literally a.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Point where he's he's getting ready to like he's in
the forest, he's getting ready to shoot somebody, and the
monkey hops up on his gun and starts talking to him.
And it is a monkey puppet, Like, straight up, it
is a puppet, and we're supposed to know it's a puppet,
and it's because he's doing meth so.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Much, I mean, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, also writes a character credit for Point Break remake
in fifteen, and then The Enforcer in twenty twenty two. Nice,
and then for Our cinematographer. We are welcoming back to
the show, Donald Peterman. He gets his start in seventy
three with Domo Arigato, goes on to DP cole check
the Nightstalker series in seventy four, Hell Yeah. Also shoots
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When a Stranger Calls in seventy nine, Okay, shoots King
of the Mountain in eighty one. Follows that up with
Rich and Famous in eighty one, Young Doctors in Love
in eighty two, kiss Me Goodbye in eighty two, eighty three,
It's a little film called Flash Dance. Follows that up
with Splash Wow. Follows that up with Shooting The Best
Defense in nineteen eighty four, follows that up with Mass Appeal,
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then Cocoon, then American Flyers in eighty five, Gung Ho
in eighty six, Star Trek, the Voyage Home in eighty six,
and then in eighty seven he does a little film
called Planes, Trains and Automobiles. No Way, same cinematographer.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
They got the cinematographer of Cocoon. Yeah, That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Follows that up with She's having a Baby in eight
eighty eight, follows that up with She's out of Control
in eighty nine. Then shoots Point Break in ninety one,
shoots Mister Saturday Night in ninety two, follows that up
with The Adams Family Values in ninety three, follows that
up with Speechless in ninety four, Speechless, Get Shorty in
ninety five, Men in Black in ninety seven, Mightdy Joe
Young in ninety eight, last film How the Grinch Stole
(31:32):
Christmas in two thousand. He unfortunately passes in twenty eleven,
February fifth, at age seventy nine from a miload Yeah
Mylodia melo, Oh my god, my yellowdy spastic syndrome.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Okay, wow. Well, I mean he had a long life
and a very interesting area. Interesting coward the end there
he was just doing pumping stuff out. Biggess.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah. Films, I mean it literally starts with the big
like the biggest one. I mean, obviously Cold Check's pretty big,
but when a stranger calls seventy nine is pretty big.
But I think it was probably a belief flash dance
in eighty three that took him off. From that point.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
I can't believe they were like, who's gonna dp planes,
trains and automobiles? Well, who did flash dance? Or when
a stranger calls. I've got good views news for you.
Guess what mister means Star Trek for the Voye Home.
I mean that's a great one. I mean that like
I'm shocked and thrilled, because when a Stranger Calls is classic.
(32:24):
I like.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So I like When a Stranger Calls. I like I
like the remake just a little bit more because I
think people forget the first one is a real big
police procedural movie. Oh god, yeah, yeah, because like the
Carol Kine stuff is like the first twenty minutes and
then she doesn't come back till the end.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Well sure, sure, I mean it's it's they're turning the
calls coming from inside the house into a feature film. Yeah,
you know, the old urban legend.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And Charles Dirning is fantastic in that movie.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Oh yeah, no that I love that movie.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Moving down to our cast, we have mister Patrick Swayze,
who plays Body in the film. He gets a start
in a little film in nineteen seventy nine called Skatetown, USA,
which I have not seen, but have you? Do you
know about Skisonio. So it is at the height of
like roller boogie and like those roller disco movies and
that's his film debut.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, I'm dying to see.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I would like to see. I bet he was a
good skater.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Sony put out the Blu Ray, so it's like twenty
four dollars and bare bones.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Follows that up with a Comeback Kid in nineteen eighty,
appears on Mash in eighty one, Return of the Rebels
in eighty one, Pigs Versus Freaks in eighty two, The
Renegade is in eighty two. He's in the Rosanna music
video by Toto in eighty two. Then he stars in
The Outsiders in eighty three. Follows that up with Uncommon
Valor in eighty three. Follows that up with Graham New
USA in eighty four, which I just got recently in
is a wild movie him Jamie Lee Curtis and see
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Thomas Howe Demolition Derby movie.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
That sounds awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It does, and it's not fair enough. It's got some
cool moments, but it's pretty weak fair enough. Same year
he does that, he does Read Dawn all right. Follows
that up with North and South, which was a VHS collection.
My parents had like the entire North and South series
on VHS. I think it's like six or seventy HS.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Tapes, I mean yeah, a series on tape.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Young Blood in eighty six, Amazing Stories in eighty six,
follows that up with Dirty Dancing in eighty seven, Steele
Down in eighty seven, Tiger Warsaw in eighty eight, Roadhouse
in eighty nine follows that up with Next of Kin
future episode probably both of those. Yeah, Ghost in nineteen
ninety follows that up with Point Break in ninety one.
Then he is in The Player in ninety two.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
Who Wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
City of Joy in ninety two, Fatherhood ninety three, Tall
Taiale in ninety five, two, Loong Food, Thanks for Everything,
Julie Newmar in ninety five, three Wishes, Black Dog, Letters
from a Killer Forever, Lulu Green Dragon does Donny Darko
in two thousand and one, followed by Waking Up in
Reno in two thousand and two. One Last Dance eleven
to fourteen in two thousand and three.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Which I'm a very big fan of.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's a great movie. Whoopee the short lived TV series
in two thousand and three, Right, yeah, Dirty Dancing Havana Knights,
which I just found out he's in as a dance instructor.
No way, I never I never got around to watching that.
I did not say that one either. George and the
Dragon in two thousand and four, King Allemand's Minds in
two thousand and four, Icon two thousand and five, Keeping
Mom in two thousand and five, Christmas in Wonder to
Land two thousand and six, Fox and the Hound two,
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Jump the Beast TV series in two thousand and nine,
and then Powder Blue in two thousand and nine. We
unfortunately lost him back in two thousand and nine as well,
September fourteenth, at age fifty seven, due to pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah, that was a very sad It was a very
sad look, very sad loss.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
If you have not seen the documentary, I'm Patrick Swayze.
I cannot recommend that doctor enough. They talked to his brother,
They talked to the guy that he fights in Roadhouse,
that the big fist fight at the end. They talked
to a bunch of people, and I mean he was
just a very down to earth, genuine soul of a person.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
No, I've got to check that out.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, sure, really good. If I still have it to
let you borrow it, move it down to our cast.
We also have Keanu Reeves in the film as Johnny
Utah one hundred and fifteen credits on his resume.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
I'm actually surprised it's that many.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Ninety percent sure. This is the second appearance of him
on the show Parenthood. Yeah, right, So get to start
in nineteen eighty one with Hanging In does Coca Cola
commercials for Coke, It is in eighty four, Night Heat
in eighty five, Young Blood in eighty six, Active Vengeance
in eighty six, Brotherhood of Justice in eighty six, which
I just watched, which is him and Key for Sutherland.
It's a true crime story about these kids in a
(36:10):
high school that we're tired of people like basically fucking
with a bunch of people, so they decided to take
justice in their own hands. Of course doesn't go well, no, no, huh, crazy.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Huh, that's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But okay, follows that up with River's Edge in eighty six,
Under the Influence in eighty six, Babes and Toyland in
eighty six, Kellogg's Cornflakes commercials in eighty seven, I mean,
some of his finest work, The Night Before in eighty eight,
Dangerous the Asons in eighty eight, does Bill and Ted's
excellent Adventure in eighty nine. Follows that up with Parenthood
in eighty nine, I Love You to Death in nineteen ninety,
Bill and Ted's Bogus A Journey Point Break in ninety one,
(36:41):
My Own Private Idaho in ninety one, Bromstokers Dracula in
ninety two, Freaked in ninety three Because He's dog Boy uncredited,
Uncredited dog Boy, Squirrel Much Ado About Nothing in ninety three,
Little Buddha in ninety three, Speed ninety four, Johnny Namonic
A Walk in the Clouds, Chain Reaction, Devil's Advocate. The
Matrix in ninety nine follows that up with the replace
The Watcher in two thousand, which I really like that movie.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I've always liked The Watcher.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I've got a soft spot for it.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
I mean that one as well as the other one.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Keanu Reeves and James Spader, I mean pretty fun combo.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Oh Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a lot of intensity, has a.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Lot of intensity. The Gift in two thousand, Sweet November
two thousand and one, Hardball Matrix Reloaded, Matrix Revolutions, Something's
Gotta Give follows that up with Thumbsucker, Constantine Scanner Darkly
The lake House in two thousand and six.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Oh yes, of course.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Street Kings two thousand and eight. They the Earth Stood
Still Henry's Crime Man of tai Chi forty seven. Ronan
john Wick in twenty fourteen follows that up with Knock
Knock Exposed Keanu, which apparently he's in the movie Keanu. Oh, yeah, yeah,
I have not seen it. Oh.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
I rented it on Redby. I heard it first came out.
It's pretty damn fun. The artwork makes you think it's
gonna be like a talking cat movie or something. It's not. Yeah,
it's really fun though.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Neon Demon in twenty sixteen, which I just saw a
couple of years ago. And yeah, he plays a landlord
in it, like really a shitty ass landlord too, Like
it's not like your typical Yetta Reeve's part.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Follows that up with the Bad Batch john Wick Chapter two,
Siberia Destination Wedding john Wick Chapter three, Toy Story four
between two ferns of the movie The SpongeBob Movie, Sponge
Out of Water Bill and Ted Face the Music in
twenty twenty, Matrix Resurrections in twenty twenty one, john Wick
Chapter four and twenty twenty three Sonic three and twenty
twenty four. Recently has been on Severance as well as
starred in Ballerina.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Spoiler, I haven't watched the second season of Severance yet. Apparently,
isn't it well? I mean, it's something to look forward to.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
We also have in our cast Lori Petty, who plays
Tyler in the film She gets Her Start in nineteen
eighty four and Kenny Loggin's video for Footloose. Okay Yeah.
Follows that up with appearances on All My Children, The Equalizer,
The Twilight Zone. Sting Ray then does in nineteen eighty seven,
the Bates Motel movie Oh Really Yeah, Head of the
Class in eighty seven, Miami Vice in eighty eight, Freddy's
(38:49):
Nightmares in eighty eight, of course, follows that up with
Police Story, Monster Manor in nineteen eighty eight, follows that
up with The Thorns Perry Mason, Alien Nation, Grand Book
in nineteen ninety. Cadillac Man then does Point Break in
ninety one, follows that up in ninety two with the
League of their Own, then goes on to be in
Free Willy, Poetic Justice in the Army, now The Glass Shield,
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Tank Girl in ninety five, Lush Life Countdown, Profiler, Superman,
the animated series Relax, It's Just Sex, The New Batman Adventures,
The Arrangement, Star Trek, Voyager, Brimstone, Clubland, The Hunger, NYPD,
Blue Pray for Rock and Roll, Line of Fire, Karate
Talk See As I. New York follows that up with
Masters of Horror, Cryptid Richard three, Prison Break, The Cleaner,
(39:33):
Chasing three Thousand, Gotham, Dead Awake, Hawaii five O, Fear In, Fear, Love,
and Agoraphobia.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Follows that up with Robot Chickens, Summer Camp, Island Ords,
The New Black in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Of course, Yeah, that's probably one of her big big
Comeba barks in a while.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, Deadly Legend in twenty twenty, The Survivalist Station eleven.
You're All Gonna Die in twenty twenty three. Follows that
up with Obliterating, which I forgot that she appears in.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
She's totally Obliterated.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, NCIS Origins in twenty twenty five, and most recently
Tonic in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Okay, yeah, still at it.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, So what was your first time watching Point.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Break, you know, like pre memory, like it was on cable. Yeah,
when I was very very young, but I never watched
it in its entirety until I was in my twenties,
maybe even maybe in my early thirties. I was a
big Swayze fan from Ghost and Roadhouse and stuff like that,
(40:32):
but I had never really caught Point Break necessarily. There
was this mentality, especially when I was younger, that it
was kind of a dumb movie. Yeah, so I think
that may have just kind of made me never want
to seek it out desperately. It is a dumb movie
in some ways, but in some of the best possible ways.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, it absolutely is. It was a cable player for
me as well. I remember distinctly the first time that
I saw it was we turned it on, me being
me and my parents because they knew it, and we
turned it on right as the chase happened, right as
the initial like footchase happened. So, okay, as a young kid,
you're just like, holy shit was going on. Yeah, So
it was one of those movies that we watched on
(41:11):
TV a lot. It wasn't until I bought a copy
on VHS that I actually got to see it on
cut for the first time. Okay, because I remember there
was a couple of times, like you didn't have to
deal with this, I don't think, but like I had
to get approval to and or rent rated R movies
for a good bit in there, and.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Well I didn't aside from that brief period of time
where where I would scare my mom to death running
across the road to go to the West Coast video. Yeah,
I never rented movies on my own because I didn't
live within walk. I couldn't go to one, so I
never had that permission because my mother was always right there.
But I also had like very reckless access to cable.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You did, So I snuck this in via getting it
at around about books. That was That was kind of
my go to for sneaking VHS tapes in because that
was how I first saw Falling Down. That's aw I
saw point Break, That's how I saw I think, that's
how I saw the last deduction.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
I like, how this is. This is a lot like
the jokes that the Simpsons would have about kids sneaking
into R rated movies because it was always like naked
lunch and they'd be like, that was not what I
think of. At least two things wrong with that title
and the other ones. We're gonna go see it. We're
gonna go sneak into R rated movie. Barten Fink, Barton Fink.
That's what it makes me think of. It's like I
snuck some R rated movies and it was not not
(42:28):
anything crazy, not anything truly lascivious, legitimate, like legitimately.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
The one thing that I rented one time where I
felt like I should not be watching this was Clockwork
Orange because I had gotten to the fast forward orgy scene.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
Yeah, well, I mean yeah, that's I mean imagine.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, And I remember, and I remember like just hitting
like either pause or stop on the VCR and being
like do I continue this? And I did?
Speaker 6 (42:52):
I mean, good, yeah, do I continue it?
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Just I knew that I wasn't supposed to be watching you.
I mean I had to have been thirteen.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
What a nerd? Yeah, what a dor?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Should I be watching this through thirteen?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
It's Clockwork Gorge. Yeah, there's way worse. I mean, there's
way worse I could have got to. I mean it's
still pretty bad, but there's way worse.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
It's pretty intense. So it does open with a rape
and how so uh but yeah, no point break was
It's a movie that has always stuck with me. Uh,
simply because everyone's seen it for for the most part,
and I mean everybody knows the ex presidents, everybody knows
the chase sequences, everybody knows the one liners.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
It's it's the thing I can everybody talks about the
most is the skydiving because they were insane incredible. Yeah,
I mean I remember when MythBusters was was going into
the point break myths.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Might be in my trivia.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
Oh yeah, well okay.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Then, so you want to get into the movie, why
the hell not. So we open with a shot of
a shooting course as we see Johnny Utah is working
on his marksmanship, intercut with shots of Body and his
guys surfing in the ocean, and Body is Patrick Swayze.
They are the surfers in the movie, as well as
Johnny Utah.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
In a little bit, well, I mean, you know, he
becomes one.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
He so Utah gets a perfect score and he is
now at his first day as an FBI agent at
the at the California location where he meets Oh my god,
I'm blanking his name. Mcginley's fucking name.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
I don't remember John C.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Mcginley's on two seconds, Oh dear, I shouldn't be jeez, fucking.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
Up, guys. That's how what Dave thinks.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Her heart where he meets Hart played by the great
John C. McGinley, and McGinley straight up just tells him
that he knows nothing, that he's happy to have him,
but also at the same time, like, you bring nothing
to this party, right.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
You need to understand that you don't know anything, and
anything you think you know is even worse.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
We don't, we don't. My agents don't drink in. The
shirt is held on smoke. Sure, I took the skin
off chicken surf. I took the skin off d good Man.
Good Man. So they are working in the robbery department
where they are focusing on the ex presidents who have
robbed twenty seven banks in the last three years, and
they've not been able to touch them, get any evidence
really at all, and.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
It's because they are so cautious. Yeah, they never rob
the vault. Nope, they just take what's in the teller's
hands ninety seconds in and out. Yep. They don't harm anybody,
but they threaten them a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yes, they do threaten them a lot, a lot and
they are made up of men and nasca that are
the ex presidents, including Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon,
and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
So yeah, they never go for the vault. They always
have their principles. And that is when Johnny also meets
his partner, Angelo Pappis ah Pas, played by the great
Gary Busey.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
And and honestly, every time I watch the film, I
like instantly remember the moment Bucy's introduced him, Like, all right, right,
this is some goal.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Because he's introduced doing a training exercise which is literally
putting on a blindfold and retrieving two bricks from the
deep end of a pool.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
Yeah, you dive into a pool blindfolded and you have
to get two bricks out.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
And bring them up yep, or eat them if your Bucy, well,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
If he's hungry, if you didn't get him as two people,
if you only got him one in a lemonade, he's
gonna have to eat something else.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
What.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I love this introduction too, because Pappus is bitching to
the to the guy that's assigning him the task that
he's like, you know, hey, I got some new you
know quarterback punk that's joining me. Blah blah blah blah.
Doesn't realize that Johnny Utah has stepped up and is
hearing this whole conversation. That's a great reveal because he's like,
he's like, he's like a papist Angelo papas punk quarterback punk.
It's what Keanus says.
Speaker 6 (46:29):
No, And Keanu's character for the most part, is pretty consistent.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yea.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
Early on, he he does a few things I don't
think make any sense very early on. Yeah, but then
after that he's pretty he's pretty consistent in his uh,
you know, his mentality, his morality. He's really gung ho
to make a name for himself as an agent. Is
like Nowsville.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yeah, well, and this is I love this cut because
we go from them meeting each other to immediately seeing
the ex presidents on the next job. So they're going
in there, they're van they're putting their mask, ony're putting
the gloves on, they're loading their guns, and literally they're
in and out of this bank in ninety seconds.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
Yeah, it's it's very very fast and very efficient.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Very efficient. They all have their their names to each other,
they all have their codes. So they go in and out,
but as they're leaving, one of them drops their pants
and moons the camera with thank you written across the
ass right across thank you one. And what's great is
they not only they let that scene go, but then
they rewind it back as you see that Angelo and
Utah are watching it.
Speaker 6 (47:27):
Yeah, it cuts to being black and white and you
realize they're watching security footage and they rewind it so
you see the thank you ass yeah yet again.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
So we go then to find out that they found
the car that was dumped and they are surveying it out,
and that's when you also get the scene they give
the sense that while they're at the robbery scene. Oh no,
so they're at the robbery scene, and that's when these
other two agents walk up and start giving Papa some
shit sands, some surfer lingo, like basically being like, hey,
Papa is hang ten blah blah blah, and you're trying
to figure out what's going on. At least Utah is.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
Yeah, yeah, he's like why are they picking on him?
And it also becomes clear that Papus is just kind
of like, you know, he's an older he's an older
officer or a detective and people like to kind of
joke about how he doesn't really do much.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, anyway, So then we get to one of your
favorite scenes, which is they find out they dump the car,
so Johnny Utah volunteers for them to go out there
and check it out and whatnot. So they get to
the car, not finding anything. It's night at this point.
Papas even makes the comment that it's seven thirty. By
this point, He's gonna solve this case and have time
for another one. So Utah is not taken too kindly
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to it, and he wants to know what Papas's theory is.
So they get into this shouting match.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
Basically, it felt like it kind of came out of nowhere.
He just starts basically saying like, yeah, yeah, so you
feel alive, right, we feel alive.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Papas has the line of I was in Vietnam taking
shrapnel war you were still crap it in your hands
and rubbing it in your face?
Speaker 6 (48:48):
What?
Speaker 4 (48:50):
So?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, Utah is like, you're mad, right, Yeah, I'm mad.
Feels good, doesn't it. Well, baby, you can tell me
what your theory is and we can go get these guys.
And that's when pappis reveals that the ex presidents he
believes our surfers.
Speaker 6 (49:01):
Now. Two things about that exchange. Number one, it just
feels like he escalates really suddenly without much frustration. And
I think maybe if if they had shown when John
C McGinley was given him crap at the beginning, maybe
it would have helped establish But instead he just laughed
off everything John c McGinley said to him. He laughed
it all off. So I don't know where the anger
(49:22):
is coming from to get Papas to like, you know,
amp up.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (49:26):
But the other thing I love is so he's like, yeah,
let's catch these guys. Let's go. You have an idea,
let's follow it. Then they're sitting at the station eating
Chinese food, drinking beer, and he thinks Papus's idea is
so stupid.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah he does, He absolutely does. He's just like right
because it happens. Papas brings forth that in all the
years of their robberies, the three years of their robberies
in the twenty seven incidents, they've only been able to
have one piece of evidence, which is that LBJ scuffed
acounter and that they pulled a sample and it was
sand that had some wax and it whatnot turns out
its sex wax, which is what surfers put on their board.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
His theory after finding out that the wax is in
like hundreds of things, but he narrows it down to
three and the only one that would make sense to
have sand mixed in is sex wax, which is a
wax you put on your surfboard for traction. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, because I love the line because Kean's like you
and the shit not if I can or not, if
I can help it or not yet. He's like, I
don't know yet or something like that. It's very beauty,
very beauty. So yeah, they've got this idea that their surfers.
So this brings us to the movie basically, which is
that Pappus is wanting to send Johnny out undercover to
infiltrate the surf gang to figure out if he can
find the robbers.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
Well, he really just to in piltrate surfers because there
are a couple of groups of surfers, including one that
is very clearly involved in crime. In crime, so that's
and that's kind of why he wants to be vested
in this group. So of course, the first thing he
does is finds Lori Petty has.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
To find a contact. Ye, he has to get a contact,
so yeah, he goes out. He goes and buys a
really cheap board and heads out in the water and
gets his ass handed to him. He is about the drowned,
and then Tyler played by Lori Petty pops in saves
him and she's like, you know, you don't have any
business out here, like, what the hell are you doing?
This board's cheap, like stay on the beach.
Speaker 6 (51:11):
Yeah, so he goes and runs a background check on Yes,
he does, and he finds out that she has all
these priors minor things, you know, mostly traffics and stuff
like that. And but he finds out both her parents
are dead. Yes, and of course he's like, well, now
I have my inn. Now I have my inn, which.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Is I love it? Because so this this scene, Bucy's
obviously freaking out because he's like, that's your contact, like
blue eyes, black hair, and the woman that's doing the
computer work is just like hot Utah. And then goes
to this thing with dead parents. And then you and
I were talking about somebody should recut.
Speaker 6 (51:44):
The Utah, Yeah, because initially was because one of them
was like public.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Driving and driving yeah, and she's like, hot Utah. And
then he's like, oh, here is dead parents. Oh hot
Utah Utah. I love that joke.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Love that joker.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
So so yeah, he decides that he's going to try
to get through to Tyler. So he goes to where
she works and he lays a sob story on that
he's been wanting to surf because he wants to prove
that he can do something after his parents died in
a car accident, and obviously Tyler agrees to start teaching
him surfing.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
Also, really fun confusing bit is his literal name is
Johnny Utah yep, but everybody calls him Utah and sometimes
my brain will be like, oh, it's a nickname. But
then he keeps referencing he's from Ohio, Ohio. Yeah, so
he's Johnny Utah from Ohio. Not confusing, who played for
Ohio State? Who played for Ohio State because body recognizes
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him as as a football player.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah. So we are actually at that scene, so yeah,
we see that Tyler's teaching him how to surf. She
basically tells him, you know he'd be there. If you're
not there, I'm gonna leave without you so they end
up having a surf montage and he finally gets like
the grounds up and everything. And while they're in the ocean,
he also notices some surfers off to his right, and
that turns out to be Body and his gang.
Speaker 6 (52:53):
Yes, and Body is just like the only way I
could I could state how they depict his His surfing
in particular is spiritual. Yeah, it's all slow motion. He's
like super in the moment. He's like relishing every second
that he's like on top of a way, he.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Is spiritual as fuck.
Speaker 6 (53:11):
Yes, And and it becomes very clear that he's some
kind of well in body. I mean that's some kind
of yoga name.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah, it's I think it's a Buddhist u. I think
that when I was look up the notes earlier, I
think I had some tied to Buddhism.
Speaker 6 (53:23):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
So yeah, so he sees the Body and his gang,
and Tyler's just like, you know, yeah, they are kind
of like the kings of the ocean at this place.
So Tyler and you Tah get back on the beach.
Body ends up sneaking behind Tyler placing a kiss on her,
and that's when she reveals that they know each other.
We have one of Patrick's fate, one of my favorite
lines from Patrick where he says, that's a nice surfboard
reminds of a fifty seven Chevy I used to own.
Speaker 6 (53:43):
Ah a reference to dirty dancing.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
Dirty dancing.
Speaker 6 (53:46):
Body is the Sanskrit name, so it's who Hindu okay,
and it means awakened or enlightened.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
That makes sense. So then we get into meeting the
rest of Bodie's gang via a football game that happens
on the beach, and one thing leads to another. We
see them going back and forth with the ball and
Body gets pissed at one point because Utah is chasing
him to receive the ball, knocks it into the ocean,
and his guys are prettyissed him. At first, they're like,
what the hell was that man?
Speaker 6 (54:10):
But that's when we realize Body then.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Clicks knows who it is.
Speaker 6 (54:13):
You were a football player, college football player, and then uh,
and then Keanu reveals, yeah, until my leg bent ninety degrees.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
The wrong way, folded the wrong way, folded the wrong way,
got my knee back folded ninety degrees the wrong way.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Yeah, he said, took two years of surgeries and for
him to be comfortably walking around. Yeah, no more professional football, Nope.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
So this leads into him and Tyler getting closer to
each other, and of course the papist and him are
continuing their investigation trying to find these guys, and this
leads to Keanu deciding that they've found the beach because
he ends up testing the sand that sand matches, so
they find out what beach they are surfing at. Right,
So this leads to him and Pappus trying to cut
people's hair because apparently LVJ got his ponytail pulled at
(54:54):
one point and they received the hair, so they're trying
to figure out what hair matches with him.
Speaker 6 (54:57):
Yes, And on top of all of this, his what
he call his supervisor at the FBI hates all of this,
especially because Utah shows up with a surfboard in the
office yep, which just enrages him.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Well, I love it because he's like, well it sticks out,
I can't lock my trunk.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
Yeah. Well, and it's funny because he's like, and why
is he mad? Like, I'm doing it on my own time,
I'm not doing it while I'm on the cloth, which
is kind of I mean, I guess that's true, but
I guess that means that Pappas is just is that
his name, Papapas PEPs is just watching on his own time,
just watching him serve.
Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, so they end up scoping out of the beach
for a little bit. This leads to a scene where
Keanu is surfing and he ends up running into one
of the surfers who gets pissed, punches him in the face,
cuts his board off, and tells him to head back
to the beach, which he does, and he radios Papas
that he's getting his ass in it out here, so
he's gonna get ready to leave, goes to take a
shower or rents off, and that's when the biker or
the yeah, the gang of surfers surround him, which includes
(55:54):
one Anthony Kidis of the Red Chili Peppers.
Speaker 6 (55:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, so he gets his ass which for a little bit,
then Body of stepping in and I love Body's interests
into that fight because he literally just grabs a gun
bunker and just throws him to the ground, and their
immediately like damn it, body, yeah, because Body's like, back off,
he's one of mine. And the one guy that's choking
Keana with a with a surfboard strap is named war Child.
We find out, yes, and he's like, you know, back
(56:17):
off war Child. I'm serious. So like they know who
body is and they know don't fuck with it.
Speaker 6 (56:22):
Yeah, Body's I mean he is. He's kind of like
the the guru of the beach. He's he's the guy. Yeah,
you know, the surfing zen guy who will kick you
a lot. Oh yeah, it made me start to think
that I was it Swayzey's idea to kick so much
in Roadhouse because he kicks a lot.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
In his answer man, he's dancer and did ballet.
Speaker 6 (56:42):
I don't say I was. I would never say. You
bet his kicks were not good. You better know they
were phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
Kill you.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
It's just a lot of kicking.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
It's a lot of kicking.
Speaker 6 (56:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Did you ever see Roadhouse two, by the way, with
Jonathan Shake taking over the role of Swayzey. Nope, it's
not good. Uh, Jig Bucy is the bad guy.
Speaker 6 (56:58):
I mean that sounds good. Yeah, Jake Bucy. I always
appreciate some Jake Bucy.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
So this leads into a party or actually, before we
get to that, Patrick is Swayze's walking with Keanuzu his
car and he's basically talking about how those guys don't
get the vibe of the waves and everything, and you know,
it's all about the thrill for them and that you know,
you got to find something spiritual in it, which leads
to him being invited to a party tonight at Bodie's
house and he's like, you know, Tyler knows where it is,
bring her along. But then Pappus and Utah decide to
(57:27):
follow Bunker and his gang because they fit the profile
perfectly for the ex presidents of course, so they're following them,
they're driving recklessly. They pull up in front of his
house and he finds out they've got weapon charges, they
got drug charges. So they're going to stake this place
out because they think they found their guys.
Speaker 6 (57:42):
I mean, and they would be the most obvious culprits
because I mean they are just unrepentant crooks.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, And so you find out that they're actually pushing
through a warrant. They're going to do a raid on
the house in the morning. So then the night crew arrives,
so we get to see that the other two agents
are rolling up and they're like, this is bullshit. And
my favorite is Beucy comes over with a thing of
pizza and he's like, here you go, col pizza. It's
good for breakfast. He's always doing something weird. So he
tells Johnny to go home and get some sleep. Johnny,
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of course, goes to Body's party with Tyler.
Speaker 6 (58:13):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
So and this is quite a party.
Speaker 6 (58:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
We are introduced with the chick doing a boy yeah,
the fire dance, fire dancing, and she's also did she
also blowing the flames up too.
Speaker 6 (58:26):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (58:27):
Yeah, so fire eating and Poy and Swayze is with
the chick doing a tequila shot via kissing her with
the lime. Ah, yes, of course, and he's So they're
on the beach talking about how you know what the
biggest swell was, and that's when Body says that Bell's
Beach next next year is going to have the fifty
year storm move through, which is going to bring the
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biggest waves that the world has ever seen and he's
going to be there to do it. Yeah, buddy, Because
there's a lot of tiestosterone of this talk, as Tyler,
because they're all talking about their experiences and how you
have to not have the fear even though the thrill
is there and everything. So we get to a whole
discussion of that where Tyler and Kiano and up stepping away,
but then they're brought back into the group because now
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there's surfing to do it. Five in the morning.
Speaker 6 (59:09):
Yeah, man, you got to get up right when the
sun's out, guns out, bro.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
So all of them go out to the beach. They're
trying to catch waves, and this is where Keanu really
gets the surf for the first time. And there's a
really cool montage that happens here where he is surfing
and he's really happy. Body and his gang end up
leaving them on the beach, but they leave the fire
for them.
Speaker 6 (59:25):
Well of course, you know, so they don't freeze to
death as they get sand in every crevice known to man.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
I mean, you know, the fire provided by by by Rosie,
which is you know, beacher.
Speaker 6 (59:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I love lead to Jerson.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
So yeah, so that he's sitting down in the water
and he's just like, I want to be here for
a little bit. And Tyler's just really moved by his
reaction to this because he's he's happy, like you can
see that he's happy that and she's taught him how
to surf, and they have a little special moment on
the beach.
Speaker 6 (59:53):
Yeah, a little special moment that could you know, cause
many uti eyes. Oh my, I mean maybe not with
salt water, although the sand yeah, yeah, you know, I
mean I don't recommend it, no, per se.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
So this leads us to them waking up in the morning,
or Johnny waking up first realizing he's late for his
own raid and he's on the beach saying, shit, I'm
so late.
Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Yeah, because he fell asleep on the freaking beach. Yeah,
and the sun's up now such a such a California move.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So he arrives at the raid at the house and
they're like, you know, how the fuck are you like
late for your own raid. But anyway, Papus tells him
that here's what's gonna happen is he's gonna act like
he's looking for a little dog. He's gonna go to
the front door knock, and then that's how they're going
to basically bust in. So they think, so they hope,
So they hope. Yeah, So uh Utah goes around the
back of the house and he's looking in we see
Anthony Keiatis is just shooting up on a bed. He's
(01:00:42):
just giving it away, given away away. Now we see
a woman also showering in one part of the house,
and then the guys bust in when somebody starts knocking
on the door and they start pulling out us. He
calls it a fucking arsenal.
Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
Yeah, and it becomes quite the gunfight, yeah, and really
kind of sets the tone, yeah, of the rest of
the big action very in this film. It's moving quick
and and uh, it's just amazing that the girlfriends didn't
just get obliterated immediately because they're just shooting in their direction.
They don't don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
So what's going on now is there's a guy that's
mowing his grass right next to Keanu. He's trying to
radio to pull Papus out of there because they see
the guns are coming out, and of course they can't
hear him. So one thing leads to another.
Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
That lawnmowers, I.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Don't know, but one thing leads to another, and Ucy
goes to pull his badge, and that's when they start
pulling guns and firing.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Yes, they're all in to kill them and and and
these guys are the kinds of psychos that like you
could be like we're you know, we're police, and they're
like even better.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Yeah, fuck you. Pick is the number one thing we hear.
Speaker 6 (01:01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
So yeah, they start, They start firing, glasses shattering, the
walls are going through, and the cops are raiding the
house as best they can. A lot of fighting happens,
Keanu Wanto getting beat by the naked woman in the
shower and she ends up all stabbing a cop. At
one point, Bucy gets a headshot off on this guy
that is insane.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Yeah. Yeah, when the violence hits, it hits.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Oh yeah, because Anthony keiatus Is foot gets blown up.
Speaker 6 (01:02:01):
Oh that's like a like a wincing moment that he
shoots right through his sneakers.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Yeah, because he's he's trying to run through a door.
The cop gets into the door right at the same
time and the gun goes down and he's a stinger
on the trigger man and blows his foot.
Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
It's gruesome. So there's the last guy that is still
alive in the house. He ends up getting knocked through
a window into the yard where Keanu was because he's
in the house after this point, and they have a
tussle while the lawnmower is still going, of course, so
wasn't it. He's trying to fight this guy. This guy
pulls a knife, and at one point he gets the
knieknocked out of his hand. But then Keano gets his
head basically pulled right towards the lawnmower and is just
(01:02:36):
mere seconds away from having the closest shave of his
fucking life.
Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Yeah, well put yeah, no, it's about to be a
close clean shape.
Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Very close clean shape. And then PAPIs magically shoots the lawnmower.
Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Yeah, he shoots the engine, which stops it. I like
that lawnmower had no safety mechanism at all. You could
just let your hands off and it would just keep running.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Well, I love Youucy at this part. I mean, I
love Yousy this entire movie, but this part specifically, this
whole set up with the raid is he's walking around
the neighborhood going Scooby, Scooby, anybody seen my dog? And
he's better my dog. So then when he shoots the
lawnmower and goes up to the guy and points the
gun and he's like speaking to the microphone, squid brain.
Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
That's you know that Catherine Bigelow was like, I need
another one where you don't say butt horn, and he
was like, all right, I got one in the chamber.
Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
So the raid was successful, question mark, they're a celebrated.
Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
It turns out that that there was a police officer.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, Tom Sizemore, the Great Tom Size.
Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
And he was all he was going for a long
term bust, undercover dea agent, right, and he had been
with them for three months. He had two or twenty
keylows of uncut crystal meth that he was trying to
figure out who their dealer was and informs them that
you know, they've got all the play by play of
the ex president's jobs. How could they be the How
could these guys be the ex presidents? When they were
(01:03:51):
in Fort fucking Lauderdale, which was not where the robbery
took place at the same day. Right. But unfortunately, as
is often the case in these types of action movies,
and and was the case for a very long time,
price still is to some extent the the the they're
totally different law enforcement wings, so they don't communicate with
each other. Yeah. So well, and of course when you
have somebody undercover, it's not like people are walking around. Hey,
(01:04:12):
you're looking into those guys. We have a guy there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's a really nice guy. Oh man, his family's gonna
miss him if something happens.
Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
So meanwhile, while all this is going on, Keanu goes
back home and Tyler takes care of him and they
end up sleeping together that night. But then they're awakened
the next morning at five am with Body and his
guys because there's swells in the water again and we
gotta go out and catch them, guys, gotta catch them
bra So as they're walking up, we see Grammet pull
his pants down and he's surfing in the water, which
Keanu and Tyler see, and we see that Grammit's ass
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smatches the thank you written across the.
Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Ass, which is hilarious, just this moment of seeing the
ass and then Swayze what is the ass? Shows it's
it's a it's a one of many great moments.
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
It's a great editor. And we also get the inner
cutting back to because Gary Busey said one thing at
the in the movie where he's like, the ex presidents
are ghosts, and that's when Tyler says, you look like
you've seen a ghost and we get to hear Papis's
line again cut back in that scene.
Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Yeah, No, it's a solid moment.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It's a solid moment. So, yeah, he realizes that his
buddies may be the ex president. So he's like, you know, hey,
I forgot about something. I've gotta leave and I gotta
I gotta go back. So the next scene, he's talking
to PAPIs and he's followed body the entire day, and
he finds out that summer season's ending. They got to
do one more score, so this is probably what it's
gonna be. You know, they gotta get some they gotta
get some vacation cash. So they're going to stake out
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this bank tomorrow that he saw them staking out earlier.
Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
Because they basically figured out that what they're doing is
financing their their massive travel summer job. They're they're doing
it by robbing small banks yep, again and again. And
the fact that they're robbing these banks in a relatively
small area, yeah is I mean, like the fact that
they haven't been caught is impressive or stupid stupid either way. Yeah,
(01:05:57):
but I love that that's their way. Is like for
for they'll just they'll just rob banks until they have
a nest egg to go, uh gall levant around doing
their their their thing. And all I keep thinking is
do they say how much the take is on any
of the robberies. It can't be more than ten grand,
twenty grand probably wait, probably less.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I mean, if they're so if they're not going for
the vault in the till the final job spoilers, if
they're not going for the vault and they're going for
the cash that's held it in behind the counter, yeah,
I mean, it can't be more than twenty.
Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
Probably probably less. Probably a couple of grand here, a
couple grand there. And all I could think was, like, guys,
why don't you just go work on an oil rig
or a fishing boat for like three months or.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Become professional surfers?
Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
Right? Yeah, I think it's hard to do unless you
get bit by a shark, because then you get all
the publicity get they yeah surfer, excuse me? Oh thank you? Jeez.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I actually watched that movie because I heard the shark
attack was like really like in like instant and like upsetting.
It is I mean, I hope so like it is
really quick and really upsetting.
Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
Yeah, I'm sure it was in real life too.
Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah, so so yeah, he realizes they're going to stick
out of this bank tomorrow because he thinks that's when
they're going to hit. So we get to the classic
scene of Pappis and Utah sitting in this car while
Pappus is reading Calvin and Hobbes and it's eleven o'clock
or ten am, it's lunchtime.
Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
He's like, it's only ten thirties. I'm hungry now.
Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
So he wants two meatball sandwiches.
Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
From that shop around the corner. They are the best
meatball sandwiches. Utah, give it two two. I love that
he yells at him, a two two subs. So PAPIs
is left to do the rest of the steak out.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Of course he's not. He's reading more calvinan Hobbs, wouldn't you?
And we get the awesome shot of Keana going up
the sandwich shop. The car pulls up right behind him
at the bank and we see the ex presidents get
out and go inside. Yeah they don't even.
Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
Notice, no, because he's too busy getting his two meatball subs,
a tuna mel yep and two lemonade.
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Two lemonades. So he gets the meatball subs he goes back,
and that's when Pappas also has the line of I'm
so hungry I could eat the end out of a
debt as out of a dead rhino. Why do I
get you? Have you get me three of these?
Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
And he's like, you know, did you see that Linco
pull up? He's like what Lincoln ex presidents come out
of the bank and they're like, oh fuck, we gotta
get going. So Utah runs up saying FBI freeze. We
see Swazey looks at him, and we also see whoever
is Lynda Johnson Wood? I think is Gramet has him dead?
Like or no, it's Nathaniel has him dead on He's
just like I got him and he's like no, no, no.
So they get in the car. Leads to the most
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impressive chase of the entire.
Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
Movie, and not just in a car. It gets onto
foot chasing and throwing piples at people.
Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
There's so they they speed up through the streets. They
go to this gas station. They've got to ditch the
car because the car has been shot up. It's got
it possibly has their blood knit or something at this
point too, so they got to burn the car. So
Swayzey gets on, gets a gas and starts basically turning
it into a flame thrower. Yeah, just torching that, torching
the car. The gas station explodes, and this leads into
Utah leaping through fire, tackling Swayze into fire. And that's
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what I love that. When the initial footchase starts, Swayzey's smoking, Yeah,
like his jacket. So yeah, impressive foot chase going through
house to house. I mean, Catherine Bigelows straight up ripped
off Ferris Bueller's day off.
Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
I mean, you know, if he's gonna steal steal from
the bass.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
So they're running through yards, they're unning through houses. Yeah,
like hen said, At one point, Swayze throws a pit
bull at him. This all leads to this chase going
through screen doors, glass doors, all this stuff, and they
finally get to this is it a levee or yeah,
like a levee and they slide down the hill and
as Johnny goes down, he Fox his knee up, falls
onto the pavement, screws his me up. Patrick Swayze gets up,
(01:09:23):
He's still running and Keanu has him dead to rights.
He's got his gun pulled on him. He can get
the shot off because we've seen this guy shoot before, yes,
And he takes one look and Patrick Swayze looks back
at him, starts climbing the fence again, and Keanu just
does the infamous firing up into the air and screaming,
and that's the end of the chase scene as we
see Swayze running atop the levee.
Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
But now we have a big problem.
Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
We have a big problem now. Yeah, that they all know, Yes,
they all know. And so we see that Tyler is
tending to Keana's wounds. Oh, also before that, Pap has
gives him shit. He's like, you know, you don't miss Like,
I don't believe you missed. I think you're getting two
dot damn close to your surf buddies. So go home
and think about it.
Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
And he's right, at least mostly right.
Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
So Utah lies to Tyler and said that he was
in a hit and run, and she's like tending to
his wounds, and you can tell he wants to say
something to do. He wants to tell her the truth, and
she even says it. She's like, you know, you look
like you want to tell me something, and he just
fights a little bit with it, and then she's like
some other time, So don't worry.
Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
That's some other times coming right up real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
So we then cut over to Body and his gang
that are out at a fire and they're all freaking out.
They're like, you know this is this is he's an
FBI agent, Like this is not the same game, Like
you think this is a game. I'm fucking scared, Like
we're leaving, and Rosie has the infamous you leave you.
Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
Die, yeah, And that's when you realize that these guys
aren't entirely as zen no as you might think.
Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
So Body says, you know, he'll take care of Johnny.
We cut to a really good fake out shot where
we're in Johnny's apartment and we see the shadow of
somebody holding a gun sneaking up on him the fire.
The gun fires hits a pillow right next to him,
and it's Tyler. She found his FBI badg yeah, and
his gun and his gun, and she is upset. She's like,
you know you lied to me, Like I bet you
lied about everything. I bet you lied about your parents.
Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
So she's like, tell me right now, did you lie
about your parents dying?
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
And uh, they live in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
Yeah, Yep, that's not quite death.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
So obviously, she gets pissed, says he doesn't have a
soul and leaves. He tries to go after her, but
his knee still fucked up, so he tries to call her,
leave some messages, but nothing happens. So then he goes
to sleep, but is awoken up by his doorbell, thinking
it's Tyler, he runs the door only to find Body
and his gang waiting.
Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
Well, hey, at least he doesn't have to be alone
with his heartbreak. Hey, there's that right side.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
He tells him that they got a special surprise for him.
They got to pack a bag. You know, he's gonna
love this, And they get to the airport showing that
they are going to go skydiving.
Speaker 6 (01:11:37):
And there's so much to say about the skydiving scene.
It's so well done. It's so like harrowing, yeah, because
it really captures the skydiving, even the.
Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Build up to it with the parachute. The parachute's great
tension because you know, he doesn't know who he can trust,
Like they're giving him parachute, but who packed it? And
he's like, you know, oh I did well, Okay, well
you got to earn trust. He's like, all right, well
take mine, and they pass around all their shoots because like,
oh no, you don't want mine, here, take this one,
working it back to the next one, and the great
line are we gonna jump or jerk off? Yes?
Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
But and that's why the scene is so great, because
not only is it wild to look at, but there's
that tense moment of like, are they gonna knock him off?
Because this would be the easiest time.
Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Oh yeah, to just like give him a shoot that's
not gonna open.
Speaker 6 (01:12:17):
Or or or get a knife and cut his pack
off that you know, or something.
Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
To catch him up in the air and stab him
a bunch of times.
Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Oo. I mean that could that could work. Yeah, you're
twisted some bit.
Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
So we get to the skydiving shot. Really cool scene.
Uh there. I mean it's about five minutes scene. I
would say it's it's it's up there. It's at least
three or four minutes. Yeah, And I mean they they
have they all have a great time. You're seeing amazing
sights of above and everything. And eventually we get to
the point where they need to pull their lines and
Keanu is telling Patrick to pull the line. He's like,
you know, no, no, you like you pull it.
Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
He's it's like they're there, you know you have and
they're on the phone together. Yeah, yeah, no, you pull
your No, you pull your as way as he ends
up pulling it because he goes all right, yeah he pulled.
He pulls Utahs right to the last second too, and
then he pulls his own. Yeah. He hits the water
pretty fast. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
So they land in the water. Everything's all good. They
drop their packs off at the plane and that's when
body is like, you know, hey, Johnny, I got to
show you something real quick.
Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
And this is a great fake out too, because at
this point Johnny is all smiles, He's full of adrenaline.
He had fun. There's that relief that like, they didn't
try to kill him. But then it all shifts when
he goes into the van and there's a little VCR
setup going on.
Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
So he tells him to push play. It's an insurance policy.
It's gonna hurt a bit, but it is necessary. Yeah,
And we see that Tyler is bound and gagged with
Rosie holding a knife to her throat, revealing that he knows,
you know, he's a special agent Utah and that he
has six hours for him to call Rosie give him
a specific sign, otherwise Tyler's going to die. Yes, And
that's when he's like, you know, well, we're wasting time.
(01:13:49):
What do you need now? They're gonna take Johnny for
one final job at the bank, one more job, and
we can all retire. So they're going through and you know,
swayze is talking about how you know it's the ultimate rush.
You know, you don't have to stab a vain Ford
or anything like that. You know, all I'm asking is for
ninety seconds of your time, and then you know, you
and Tyler can live a happy life like I could.
I could never hold a knife to Tyler's neck, like
(01:14:10):
I can never do that. But Rosie is a mechanism.
Once you set him in motion, there is no stopping.
Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
Rosie's Rosy's got some stuff he needs to work through.
Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Got some stuff he needs to work through. So this
leads to them going to the bank. Of course, Keanu
was the only one without a.
Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
Mask, yeah, which is there on purpose so that he
can incriminate himself.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
So all of them are in the bank, They're going
about their job, and that's when Swayzey decides at the
last second, go to the vault.
Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
You know, he should have known he was gonna be
okay because if they'd given him a mask, it would
have been John F. Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
And then we know.
Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
What too soon?
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Too soon?
Speaker 6 (01:14:42):
I mean, okay, fair, but I'm just saying, you know,
that would have been the move.
Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
So not only are their witnesses of the bank, he
also is just like, hey, spile, we're on camera, and
Utah is like, you know, can we go to take
the money and get the fuck out of here? So
that's when he tells his gang go to the vault.
They're like, we never go to the vaul. Why are
we going to the vault? And even Utah is like,
you're breaking your own rules, man, you're taking too much time. Meanwhile,
in the bank, an undercover cop gets the attention of
a security guard and he tells him he's an undercover
(01:15:09):
cop and he shows him that he's got a gun, yes,
and that when they come out, he wants him to
back him.
Speaker 6 (01:15:13):
Up, which I mean talk about desperation, yeah, like like
if the security guard's down, like just let him take Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
I mean, no offense to bank security guards, but I just.
Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
We do have a lot of them listening. We do.
Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Yeah, we are the number one bank security podcast.
Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Well the number one podcast of bank security person. Now
we aren't a podcast about bank security.
Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
We could be all right, turn off, all right. So
but yeah, he tells him and he wants him back
him up. So we see the two coming out of
the vault and the cop stands up, gets a shot
on swayze first, so shoots him, then shoots Gromet, and
then shoots I think it's Nathaniel. Yeah, I think he
shoots Nathaniel. So shoots a Grammet right in the neck,
(01:15:59):
and we get the shot of Patrick Swayzey rising up
with the sideways Ronald Reagan mask, takes it off and
he just looks psychotic. Yeah, terrifying, terrifying, And the cop
has already spent his clip, so he's trying to reload.
If Patrick Swayzey stands up, gives him two shots of
that revolver, and he's fucking dead.
Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
Yeah. So now he's killed a police officer, yep, which
pretty much guarantees that they'll never stop them at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
So at this point, the bank security guard's dead, the
undercover cop is dead, and now also Grammit is dead
because he goes to Grammitt takes off his mask and
he's just bleeding from the mouth, bleeding from the neck,
and he dies right in Swayzey's arm. Yeah. So that's
when Nathaniel's like, are you happy, man? You get what
you want? Like, let's fucking go. So they get ready
to leave, and that's when Swayze knocks out Utah, leaving
him to take the fall.
Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
Yeah. So it's a little awkward, you know, a little
awkward video. But it is funny though, because like, on
one hand, yeah, he's like on camera robbing a place,
but he's also like the only one without a mask yet,
so it stinks of setup.
Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
He also pulls his badge and says FBI when the
cops shoots him, because Utah takes two to the chest.
Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
Yeah, but he's wearing a bullet in the vest.
Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Yeah, so he takes to the chest and then the
best catches it. But he pulled his badge and showed
that he was FBI. But not that it holds much
water at this point.
Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Not in that moment either. Nah. And they did a
pretty good job of somewhat realistically depicting a bulletproo vest.
He didn't get like machine gun didn't stand up. He
was like really hurt his he's like gasping for air.
He got two right in the chest and just barely
made it out.
Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Not like Richie Rich where he gets shot in the
chest like five times by John Lerichet. Yeah, I remember
watching that with you recently.
Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
You're just like, holy shit, it was violent. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
For anybody who has seen Richie Rich in a while
and may have watched it on TV, you may have
seen where John Larricket shoots him once and that's it
in the movie. He unloads the clip into Richie.
Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
Rich And honestly, that movie's a delight to this day.
Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
It's coming to the show at some point.
Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
Oh weird, that's a threat.
Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
So so yeah, Now the cops and the FBI are
at the bank, they're reading Utah's rights. Papus comes in.
He's like he knows this goddamn rights, Like take the
cups off. Harp refuses to take the cuffs off because
there's an undercover cop dead now and all this stuff.
And that's when you know Papas is just like, okay, well,
don't let the regular black and whites take him in.
Let me take him in and Harp is like, you know, yeah,
that's what I expect from you, you know, maybe just
(01:18:12):
a little more, a little more pathetic and fat. And
that's when Pappus goes. You know, Harp, all these years
of being a cop, I've learned one thing you haven't. Yeah, PAPIs,
what's that boom? Respect for my elders? Since he punches
him and knocks him the fuck out?
Speaker 6 (01:18:26):
You know, now that I'm thinking about it, If these
guys are robbing banks within a radius that's not that big,
why not just put like two or three undercover cops
just in every bank?
Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Yeah? Well, I mean, do you remember the original town
that Dreaded Sundown, How they have that whole section where
they were dressing up the cops as women to infiltrate
so they could try and catch them, because they thought
the women would be the targets, right right. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Now, I'm just I'm just saying, like, as I think
about it, it's like they probably could. Yeah, and if
you have a team of them that are like prepared
for what to do, yeah, probably would be wouldn't be
too bad?
Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Well do you So here's my question. Do you think
that Utah reported any of this to harp. Oh, well,
because it happens so quick. Well, he didn't have a chance.
I don't think he was avoiding it.
Speaker 6 (01:19:11):
I don't think he had a chance because from the
moment he gets taken on the skydive excursion, that's it.
When would he have had any time to tell anybody anything?
Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, because I mean they blow the stakeout obviously at
the bank, because that's the chase scene.
Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Oh yeah, they blow their cover completely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
So so yeah, now Utah gets Utah and PAPIs are
speeding off to the airport because he knows where they're going.
So they get to the they get to the airport
and PAPIs sneaks out of the car, so he's infiltrating
up to the airport where they're at gassing up the plane.
Utah pulls up. He's like, you know, I don't have
any guns, Like I'm unarmed, you know. He's like, well
you're not alone, is what body says, and he's like,
good guess. So this whole leads to an exchange of
(01:19:47):
him being like, you know, call Rosie, tell him to
let Tyler go, and he's like, I can't. They're on
the road now, and he's like you know what would
I leave my own bargaining ship, Like, I'm not gonna
do that. And he's like, man, the ride's over. Like
cops are dead, like people are dead. They're going to
come after you the game.
Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
No matter where you go, they're going to find you now.
Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
And of course Body is just like, oh no, no,
I say when the game is done. Meanwhile, while this
is happening, Pappus sneaks up and goes to take a
shot at Nathaniel and that's where or No, Nathaniel comes out,
catches Pappis, gets one shot off on him, but Papus
also shoots him. That's when Roach also takes a shot
as well. No, okay, he shoots Roach then Nathaniel. Yeah yeah,
(01:20:22):
but anyway, so Pappus takes a shotgun blow to the back,
he takes like two killing him. Yeah, he's dead. Dead.
So this all happens right in front of Utah and Body.
So now Nathaniel is dead and that means that Roach
and Body are the only two left alive.
Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
It escalates very quickly at that point.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Very quickly. So that's when the pilot comes out of
the plane. He's like, I'm not taking you guys, to
Sam Pedro or Sam One, I can't where, he said, yeah,
I can't remember. So he's like, you know, oh shit,
well wait to go and tell them where we're going.
So he's like, well, Johnny, you're coming with us. So
that's when he leaves Pappis. They get on the plane
and long story short, they're flying above Mexico and he
(01:20:59):
raised Rosie. Rosie says they have eyes on him and
they're gonna parachute down from the plane. But also Roach
is getting cold.
Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
Yeah, he's uh, he's losing a lot of that there blood,
losing a lot of blood. And that's one thing I've
learned in life. It's keep all the blood with your body.
You want as much of it as you can inside. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Yeah, yeah. So that's when Johnny is just like, you know,
you're you're getting cold because all the blood drained your body. Roach,
you know you're dying. I hope it was worth it.
And that's when Body gets him ready to jump. He
basically Roach basically falls out of the plane. He does
not jump. He's literally sitting and just falls back out
of the plane. Yeah, And so that's when Body says,
you know, this is where it ends. Johnny, I know
(01:21:38):
you want me, I know, I know. It's so bad.
It's like ass in your mouth. It's the line I mean.
So he dives out of the plane in the coolest
shot of the entire movie, Yes, where Patrick Swayzey goes
audios to Ego falls right back out of the plane
and it is a one shot where we watched swayze
dive for real. Yeah, so that was the one shot
(01:21:59):
that he was allowed to get into that.
Speaker 6 (01:22:01):
I can't imagine the insurance costs of doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
That's one of the reasons that he was not allowed
to for the longest time. So I'll get into that.
So that's when Utah decides to take it upon himself
to jump out of the plane after him without a parachute.
Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
Yes, and he's gun well, of course, I mean, you've
gotta have something to protect yourself. I guess you could
just shoot the ground to try and kill it before
it kills you. There we go, that's how our life works.
Speaker 8 (01:22:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, just just just so, he's flying through
the sky after body and lands onto body, and body
is just like holy shit, man, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
He's like, and he's like, you know, I'm pulling, putting
the gun to his head, and he's like, pull the
shoot and he's like, nah, you pull it. No, no, games, Boddy, no,
now you pull it. And finally he's just like, you know,
what are you gonna do, Johnny? You gotta drop the
gun to pull the shoot otherwise, but you gonna hold onto.
So Utah drops the gun, pulls the shoot like mere
seconds before their sight.
Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
I still hit the ground pretty.
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Hard, messing up Johnny's knee again. So he's limping and yeah,
Body's like, you know, you're one radical son of a bitch.
And we also see that roach did not make it
to the ground alive and he is dead on the ground.
The money is.
Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Well, I mean, he might have made it to the
ground alive he put the shoot. Oh oh yeah, yeah.
You know what matters is that he is.
Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
He's dead, he is deceased, and the money is blowing
in the wind, not all of it, but some. So
Rosie ends up pulling up in the jeep, and as
Body's walking up, he tells Utah he goes, is that
knee again? I guess you're not gonna make it this time, man,
or you can get me this time. But he tells
Tyler Rosie to let Tyler go right, So Tyler gets released,
she runs the Utah and that's when Body gets into
the jeep with Rosie and he's like, I'll see you
(01:23:37):
in the next Live Johnny. They pick up the money
from Roach and they're gone.
Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
Yep, off into the sunset.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Nine months later, however.
Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
Tyler has a baby.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Utah has tracked Body to Australia. Yes, to Bell's Beach, Victoria, Australia,
where the record breaking fifty year storm is taking place.
In fact, so as he's walking up, we see a
storm's going on, rain's coming down, we see the locals
are coming back in. He's like, anybody out there catching waves?
And the guy's like, you'd have to be fucking crazy
to be out there, man, sure, shit, one person's on
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the shore.
Speaker 6 (01:24:10):
What And that would be.
Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
When he walks up to Body and drops the Ronald
Reagan mask right in front of him.
Speaker 6 (01:24:15):
Yeah, I love that shot. Oh, it's it's an excellent reveal.
Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Yeah. So he's like, you know, I'm specially if in Utah,
I knew I could count on you. And he's like,
you know, yeah, I caught up with Rosie a few
months or somebody a few months back. Turns out he
picked a knife fight that was better with somebody and
he's like, you know, you gotta go down, man, Like
this can't happen like this, and he's like, well, I'm
just waiting on my swell. One thing leads to another.
Johnny ends up getting into a fight with him. They're
fighting on the beach, which leads to him handcuffing him
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and they're handcuffed and he and body is just like no, man,
like you can't do this, Like, you know, just let
me go ride one wave and then you can fucking
take me in.
Speaker 6 (01:24:48):
He says, uh, I'm not gonna swim to New zeal Well.
Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
The cliffs are on both sides. I'm not gonna swim
paddle New Zealand. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
And and this is the the super silly super broie Yeah,
but so satisfying. Yeah. Perfect, perfect moment of him choosing
the wave over over the law, over the law and
well and choosing what he's passionate about, because that's kind
of the that's the poetry of it is. He did
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get obsessed with the money, he did get obsessed with
the revenge, and now he's realized really all he has left.
Is the wave?
Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Is the wave?
Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
And Utah and Utah having now been with Body and
have have like the surfing basically gets spiritual with him
because even asked me, he's still surfing. He's like every day.
So Utah is still surfing. So he knows that this
is what Body wants. He also knows Body's not coming back. No,
so he lets Body off and he tells him of
Biocindios and lets him go out to the sea. He
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paddles out. We see a giant wave rise and Body
paddles through it, starts riding it, rides it for maybe
two to three seconds before he loses his footing and
just gets crushed by this wave.
Speaker 6 (01:25:56):
And all the cops are running up like, well, what
do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
You taw you let him go? Oh, and they're they're like,
we're going to get him when he comes back on shore.
He's not coming back coming back. So we watched Body
gets smashed by the wave. Utah is walking on the
beach and he just throws his badge into the water.
We see it sink into the water, and that is
nineteen ninety one's point break.
Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
Yes it is, And what a ride? What a fun, exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
And ride range ends with Nobody rides for Free by Rat,
which was a song made specifically for the film.
Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
Yeah, because, I mean body needed a lot of money
he took for those rides.
Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
So would you like to know what the budget was
on the movie?
Speaker 6 (01:26:33):
I would love to.
Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Twenty four million is the estimation opening weekend, which is
July fourteenth of ninety one. It takes in eight eighty
five million, or extually eight million, five hundred dollars five
hundred thousand dollars, then grossing in US and Canada forty
three million, ending up worldwide grossing eighty three million dollars,
not including video, which I believe is in the trivia,
which I'll get to in a song. Wow. Yeah, well,
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I mean it was a hit. It was out huge,
massive shot over a period of seventy seven days.
Speaker 6 (01:26:59):
Wow, that actually sounds short.
Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
It does sound short. Shot mainly in Los Angeles, however,
it did have a production take place in Lake Powell, Utah,
Ecola State Park in Oregon, Malibu, Manhattan Beach, Santa Monica, Venice,
Fox Hills Mall in California, and there was a scene
shot in Bell's Beach, Victoria as well.
Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
Oh, it actually went to Australia.
Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
We went and shot there. Wow. So in regards to
the trivia we have the co producer Rick King first
came up with the idea for the movie while lounging
on the beach. He had been given an LA Weekly
article about Los Angeles being the robbery capital of America
and dreamed up a movie about an FBI agent infiltrating
a surf gang that robs banks to fuel their fun
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The bank Go. The bank robbery style in the film
is loosely taken from the Stopwatch Gang, a group of
Canadian bank robbers. They successfully robbed over one hundred and
forty banks in the nineteen seventies, in which no one
was seriously injured. We need a movie about these guys,
is what it says.
Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Oh what a polite not shocking that Canada had the
most polite bank robbers.
Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
The film was originally called Johnny Utah. When Reves was
cast in the title role. The studio felt that this
title said very little about surfing, and by the time
Patrick Swayze was cast, the film had been renamed Writers
of the Storm or Writers on the Storm after the
famous song by the Doors. However, the lyrics had nothing
to do with the film, so that the title was
then also rejected, and it was not until halfway through
filming that point Break became the film's title because of
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its relevance to surfing, and it is said once in the.
Speaker 6 (01:28:21):
Movie, yes it is, and yeah, Johnny Utah would be
such a bad title for that one on Earth.
Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Sir Ridley Scott was the first choice to direct the movie.
He instead directed Thelma and Louiz in ninety one.
Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Matthew Broderick was originally offered the role of Johnny Utah.
Others who auditioned were Johnny Depp, Charlie Sheen, Willem Dafoe,
and Val Kilmer.
Speaker 6 (01:28:41):
If we'd gotten Broderick, I mean, then it would really
be a fair knock off there.
Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Defoe, I could see it be. It'd be weird, but
it'd be fun because Kilmer seems too on the nose.
Speaker 6 (01:28:55):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Charlie Sheen also, I mean he did he did a
movie like this called No Code Conduct.
Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Yeah, I could see she though.
Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Johnny Depp maybe, I mean it's twenty one Jump Street.
Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
He and Keanu were about in the same point of
their rise at that point, so I could see him
being it.
Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Catherin Bigelow fought to have Keanu Reeves cast a Johnny Utah,
insisting she wouldn't film the movie without him. The studio
and producers were interested in looking at a higher profile
actress at the time, like Depp. Two months before filming,
Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze, and Lori Petty trained with former
world class professional surfer Dennis Jarvis on Kawaii, Hawaii. Jarvis
remembers Patrick said he'd been on a board a couple
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of times, Keanu definitely had not surf before, and Laurie
had never been in the ocean in her life. Wow, okay,
well that's quite an escalation. The film was made during
the early days of the nineteen nineties extreme sports craze,
during which the publics, especially young people, became more interested
in sports like skateboarding, snowboarding, skydiving, and mountain biking. The
increased interest in extreme sports during the nineteen nineties would
(01:29:54):
later give birth to the X Games and Winter X Games.
Speaker 6 (01:29:57):
Oh yeah, man, I mean everything was extreme.
Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Mid to late nineties, Keanu Reeves observed a real FBI
agents in Los Angeles to study for the role. He
also practiced with UCLA quarterback coaches to help with the
football scene.
Speaker 6 (01:30:10):
Okay, I mean, I guess they really wanted that football
to come across. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
The beach spot where the football game is played at
the beginning of the film is the same spot used
for the soccer game in the Karate Kid Nice you
totally tell Oh yeah, oh yeah, Okay. When Body is
introduced to Johnny Utah on the beach, he remarks that
utah surfboard reminds him of fifty seven Chevy he used
to have. Swayzey previously drove a fifty seven Chevy and
dirty Dancing in nineteen eighty seven A references. For many
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of the surfing scenes, swayze refused to use a stunt
double as he had never had one for fight scenes
or car chases. Patrick Swayzey cracked four ribs while filming
the surfing scenes jeez. Though the cast members took surfing
lessons to appear in some of the less technically complex
surfing shots, many of the more dangerous shots utilize pro
surfer stunt doubles. During during the fifty year storm scene
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at the end of the movie, Swayzey was doubled by
legendary big wave surfer Derek Dorner.
Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
Okay, well, I mean I can't believe he did any
of the surfing. That's just asking for trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Patrick swayze is not the only one or is not
the one wearing the Ragan mask during the footchase sequence. Instead,
his stunt double, Scott Wilder, performed the scene because swayzey
was in Europe during doing press for Ghost.
Speaker 6 (01:31:17):
Oh, I would have assumed he is yet broken ribs, so.
Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
That scene to get a sense of phonetic energy on
the foot chase scene, Catherine Bigelow and her crew shot
the sequence with what they dubbed the pogo cam, which
was a rig that mounted to a gyro stabilized camera
on a body length pole that could be led by
the camera shooting the actors in front or behind him.
Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
Oh nice, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
When body throws a pitbull at Utah, who then pulls
the dog off of him and kicks the dog out
of you, The scene was shot and cuts using a
fake dog and a real one. The real pitbull was
gently tossed by the trainer into the actor's arms at
a distance of approximately one and a half feet. The
dog had been prepped for this and was comfortable with
the action. The ground was padded underneath them to ensure
complete safety. The toss was completed successfully and no harm
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came into the animal. A fake dog was used when
Utah kicked the dog.
Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
Thank goodness, we would have to wait almost twenty years
to find out what happens when Keanu Reeves is around
a dog getting hurt. It's very true.
Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
The first skydiving scene was shot at Lake pal thirty
one years later. Due to significant population growth in the
Southwest States area and greatly increased water use as well
as drought, the level of the lake had dropped ninety
two feet, making their landing zone approximately seventy feet above
the water level. Much of what was seen in the
high altitude shots is now replaced by dry canyons.
Speaker 6 (01:32:28):
Yeah, it looked like it was drying out.
Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Ye.
Speaker 6 (01:32:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
To get close ups of the actors during the skydiving sequences,
a crane rig with a telescoping arm was built for
each actor. The rigs enabled to cast to save their
lines while the camera shot them from below and to
the side to achieve the sense of floating while skydiving.
In order to provide more fluid feel. The camera was
on a similar rig.
Speaker 6 (01:32:47):
Okay, I mean some of the best skydiving footage in
a footage ever captured for a narrative movie.
Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
The scene in which Utah jumps after Body without a
parachute was tested by MythBusters in two thousand and three.
It was determined that you and Body would not have
been able to free fall for ninety seconds as in
the film, nor would they have been able to hold
a conversation in midair. However, it was determined that by
streaming streamlining his body, Utah could have conceivably caught up
with Body after jumping out of the plane.
Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
Fair enough, because that's the craziest part is that he
catches up with him.
Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Patrick swayze was an accompanied sky or an accomplished skydiver,
and took part in big skydiving scene. He made fifty
five jumps in total.
Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Patrick swayzey, who participated in sky diving as a hobby,
was told to stop for insurance purposes. Once production began,
producers coaxed him into the agreement with the promise of
letting the star do one actual skydive on screen. The
uncut shot of Body yelling Audios Amigo, and Falling from
the Plane features Swayze actually making a jump unbeknownst to
the producers. When not on the day's call sheet, Swayzy
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and others would occasionally run out to the airport and
go skydiving anyway.
Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
So this is something a lot of people don't think
about that I wish was maybe talked about a little
bit more. When you make a huge movie like that,
you have to have insurance. Yeah, and generally your lead
actors have to usually your one star, but it can defend,
it can depend a lot. Yeah, has to pass a physical.
That's why they were, like, you know, like Chris Farley
(01:34:11):
when he did like Beverly Hill's Ninja. Yeah, they had to,
Like he had to assure he was going to be
clean and sober, although you know they're not going to
test you because they're not going to mess up. But
the whole point is to protect the film because if
you have your lead actor doing all of his own stunts,
there's a high possibility that they could get severely injured
or die and and the film entirely.
Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
And when you're.
Speaker 6 (01:34:35):
Making a movie for like twenty seven million dollars, that
insurance policy of like, if our lead actor gets hurt,
you have to pass out, would literally pay back the
money made on the movie. So obviously the insurance companies
are going to be very weary.
Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Well, I remember, going back to MythBusters, there was an
episode where they were testing the Temple of Dune drop
through the Oh my god, why can I think what
they're called.
Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
On?
Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
Oh yeah, yeaheah.
Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
They were testing that and Adam wanted to do it,
but they wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 6 (01:35:04):
Yeah, Assurance would not let.
Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
So one of the other ones had to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:35:07):
Well.
Speaker 6 (01:35:07):
And and there's also just general safety like if you're
if your stunt core or your your stunt coordinator is
just like no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
Well, I mean and that also brings up I mean,
it's a sad topic, but that also brings up a
reason that a lot of stars will sometimes hide illnesses
from from their producers and directors too.
Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Well, there's a quid pro quo, especially with older actors. Yeah,
that there's no way they passed the physical, but somehow
they do.
Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Yeah, Because I know a lot of people were wondering
recently why Pue Herman kept Paul Rubins kept his to
himself and I mean for privacy reasons obviously, but yeah,
there is a the belief that, like if you tell
the production that, then you're probably not going to be
in the movie or the well show.
Speaker 6 (01:35:52):
And usually people like that they're not in like the
like a one hundred and forty million dollar blockbuster. Usually Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
According to Gary Busey, Patrick Swayzey was so nuts about
skydiving that he actually badgered him until he gave in
and agreed to go with him after filming.
Speaker 6 (01:36:07):
I can't I feel like that that conversation would have
to be Bucy's just like, am I gonna shome ou
on plane? I'm gonna do it? For real?
Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
What did Bucy do? Three years later?
Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
Drops o? Mm hm oh yeah, that's a film.
Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Mm hmmm, that could be a future episode.
Speaker 6 (01:36:20):
I do enjoy me some drop zone.
Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Gary Busey has come out of interviews and said the
infamous Meatball Sandwich's scene where he says, Utah, give me
two was ad libbed and improvised.
Speaker 6 (01:36:29):
I believe it. It's very memorable. Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
The youngest gang of surfers in the film is known
by the nickname Grommet in the surfer slang Grommett is
a young kid or inexperienced surfer. Okay, Patrick's roadhouse, often
attributed to an d joke aimed at Swayze, is a
real place located at one oh six in trot to Drive,
Santa Monica, California. It's right on Pacific Coast highwa which
would be reasonable logical plays for Johnny and Body to
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have a meal because they say Patrick roadouse at one
point ah.
Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Of course, second unit director and stunt coordinator Glenn R.
Wilder held fighting training sessions for the cast on weekends
because director Catherine Bigelow one of the actors to do
their own fights on screen without stuntman. Anthony Keiatis was
allegedly the only cast member to miss the training, so
Wilder had his character knocked out with one punch during
the first fight sequence in the movie Wait.
Speaker 6 (01:37:14):
Anthony Ketis was unreliable in some way.
Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
In the nineties, what Johnny Utah became an FBI agent
after a knee injury ended his football career. In real life,
Keanu Reeves was once an aspiring hockey player who suffered
a knee injury and went on to become an actor.
Patrick Swayzee also suffered a serious knee injury playing football
and went on to become an actor as well well.
Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
And I cannot recommend enough watching john Wick Is Pain,
the two hour documentary about the making of the John
Wick movies. To see it, but they go into a
lot of how rough Keanu's knee was. I bet all
the time, how it would swell up and they and
they would literally be like like the trainer Wred looking
at me like, ah, that's enough swelling that It's okay,
you can keep trainingugh.
Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
The members of the ex presidents are killed in the
order of when their respective president served an off.
Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
Well, yeah, I mean, except at the time they made it,
Carter was still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Oh yeah, well served in office though, so I guess.
Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
It's oh, served in office.
Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
I was wrong.
Speaker 6 (01:38:09):
Oh okay, I got you, Now I got you.
Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
The song Nobody Rides for Free by Rat was recorded
especially for the film soundtrack. It does not appear on
any of the band's studio albums, but is included on
the band's Greatest Hits album, Rat and Roll eighty one
to ninety one. The song was also the final single
released by the band in its classic lineup form.
Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
Are You a Rat Guy?
Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I Am a reck guy. I had a feeling I'm
not a huge rat guy because I've only listened to like,
probably like four or five complete albums, and I think
they have like nine. But I have the more.
Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Whenever I think of RAT, I think of that Simpsons
gag with the band who's like all thought we were
quiet root the drums.
Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Rat Us rentals for the film grossed twenty million dollars.
Worldwide rentals were much higher. Wow Yeah. And finally, the
film inspired a piece of cult theater Point Break Live,
in which the role of Johnny Utah is played by
an audience member chosen by popular acclamation. After a brief audition,
the new Keanu reads all of his or her lines
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from Q cards for the duration of the show to
capture the rawness of a Keanu Reeves performance, even from
those who generally think themselves incapable of acting. In twenty thirteen,
Gary Busey a tended a performance and received a rapturous
applause from the audience when he joined the cast on stage.
Lori Petty would also turn up and participate in a
live action performance as well.
Speaker 6 (01:39:20):
That's wild. I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
So what are your final thoughts on Point Break.
Speaker 6 (01:39:24):
Man, it's tough because I want to say it's a
by it. It's definitely a by it. If you are,
you know, a cinophile, which probably are, if you're listening
to this, then it's probably something that needs to be
in your collection. Yeah, but it's a thousand percent of
rent it. No matter who you are, you need to
watch Point Break at least once in your life, and
twice with riff tracks.
Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Oh yes, absolutely, it's a by it for me. There's
no way around this. It's one of the best action
movies of the nineties, probably one of the best action
movies of all time. It has incredible sequences between the
foot chase scene and the skydiving sequence that you just
do not see in movies.
Speaker 6 (01:39:59):
No, you don't, it's no, it's a It's a trailblazing
action movie, very similar to how right around the corner
we would have Terminator two, kind of reinventing action movies
speed Speed, Well, Jurassic Park, reinventing uh, just nearly everything.
Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
So, I mean this was a very formative time and
Point Break can ride with all of those big movies.
Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Absolutely can. So should we check in with our buddies
to see what they thought? Of the movie.
Speaker 6 (01:40:23):
I don't know if they would legally allow you to
call them your friend. Well, luckily they're oh wow. But yeah,
let's see what Ciskel and Ebert had to say. I
suppose a.
Speaker 9 (01:40:34):
Rookie the Eye agent goes undercover as a surfer to
break up a gang of bank robbers who wear rubber masks.
Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
It's not as silly as you make.
Speaker 9 (01:40:42):
Next President of the United States. Now, just describing the
plot of Point Break like that makes it sound like
a parody of itself, like Naked Gun three. And this
is a surprisingly intelligent and effective Sanu Reeves as a
new guy in the bureau and Gary Busey as his partner.
It's beauty who has the theories the bank robbers may be,
(01:41:03):
and before long Reeves is a friend of some of them,
including their leader.
Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
A mystical two years after.
Speaker 6 (01:41:10):
Yeah, really, actually, that's nuts.
Speaker 9 (01:41:12):
Twice the century the ocean lets us know just how
small we really are.
Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Winter Storm comes out of Antarctic. That's tearing up the Pacific.
Fact that he's stringing a guitar that you never see play.
Speaker 6 (01:41:22):
Well, I mean, the movie's already over two hours. I mean,
how much sexy you have.
Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
He probably has a song called the legend Oh Dah.
Speaker 9 (01:41:31):
All the songs are about himself, by the southern California
surfer lifestyle, and also by Swayzey's ex girlfriend, the Surfer,
played by Laurie Petty.
Speaker 6 (01:41:40):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
I like it.
Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
Making something home.
Speaker 9 (01:41:50):
I have never been to a house I expected in
tense moment and the agent's cover has very song and
the man he's after has forced him to go skydie
knock my shoot?
Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
I need what don't drug make? Man? Please tell me
they're going to leave it, which no chance.
Speaker 9 (01:42:09):
Point Break was directed by Catherine Bigelow, who made the
Jamie Lee Curtis cop thriller Blue Steel a year ago,
and who has a genuine sense of style that he
brings to hard boiled subject matter. What's interesting about Point
Break is that it's not just a thriller about cops
and robbers. It's about a young agent who is impressed
by the worldview of a possible robber and who is
forced to rethink his whole value system.
Speaker 6 (01:42:30):
At the same time.
Speaker 9 (01:42:31):
The movie contains terrific action sequences, including a chase scene
on foot through the backstreets of Santa Monica and a
struggle in the skies between a man who has a
parachute and another man who has a gun.
Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Now, that was really a good scene.
Speaker 9 (01:42:43):
I like this movie.
Speaker 7 (01:42:44):
The action scenes are very good. My problem with the
picture yes that so much of it is very good,
and a lot of it I think has problems over stuffed.
I'll give you an example. The guys of the bank
robbers right at the beginning do wear the mask of
the s president. So you've got Nicked and Ford and
Carter and Reagan and all this, and that's that's okay.
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But then break reaganisms nixonisms, and I thought, oh, come on, now.
Speaker 6 (01:43:10):
That's an extra thing.
Speaker 7 (01:43:11):
Let me let me keep going. They're doing it in
their voices, but they're mimicking these guys. Let me let
me just try to go. The movie that I think
runs on past a couple of endings, and then the
the surfer guys.
Speaker 6 (01:43:26):
I think.
Speaker 7 (01:43:27):
I guess what I'm trying to say is it's over.
Speaker 9 (01:43:29):
No, no, no, I know what you're talking about when
you say that it has an extra ending. I love
the extra ending. I would have hated it if.
Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Yeah, if the sunset, oh yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:43:40):
The last and that's the point of the whole movie
point break and with the sea and with his life,
and it has to have that.
Speaker 7 (01:43:49):
That one I don't mind as much as about two
other before it that are fake.
Speaker 6 (01:43:54):
There is a lot is.
Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
A big big then the wave. I don't know what
other fake endings he's smoking when.
Speaker 7 (01:44:02):
He was going right. I'm sure you could too. It's
it's it's not bad. It's not bad at all.
Speaker 6 (01:44:08):
The shootout in the bank could be an ending.
Speaker 9 (01:44:11):
Big. I gotta make these different from other characters and
other thriller makes. It's not just a carbon copy that down.
Speaker 6 (01:44:20):
I can't recommend it feeling they hated each.
Speaker 9 (01:44:23):
Other more entertaining thriller.
Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
This summer Terminator too is really after they.
Speaker 6 (01:44:29):
Found that then they want to I mean, I'm with
Cisco on that. Imagine Terminator to being uh like the
same summer. Talk about a good time to be able
to go to the movies.
Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
No, I'll do you one better, s the cast.
Speaker 6 (01:44:42):
Oh, I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.
I don't know. He has to sing the theme song too.
Have you seen this wave? Jump joke off and Linda
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Hamilton is bucy two to.
Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
Be falls Hampleton is bucy broke me.
Speaker 6 (01:45:13):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I can tell.
Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
So we always like to end the show with a
couple of recommendations. This week I've got two, starting with
nineteen ninety one's Stone Cold.
Speaker 6 (01:45:22):
That's a great and somewhat underrated film.
Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Currently available on Pluto, rentable on Prime and Fandango. The
synopsis says, a tough Alabama cup is blackmailed by the
FBI into going undercover in a violent Mississippi biker gang.
If you have not seen Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth,
fix that.
Speaker 6 (01:45:39):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, And a four K is coming out
through Tino.
Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
There is yes. And the second recommendation I'm gonna go
with is twenty seventeen's Logan Lucky, currently available on Netflix
and rentable on Prime and Fandango as well. Two brothers
attempt to pull off a heist during a NASCAR race
in North Carolina, one of the best heist movies in
the last super fun.
Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
Now, how thick this is? Sign? I need to know
how many I need to know how many gummy bears
to put on Daniel Craig so good? Oh no, that
movie's so fun. So my suggestion is more of a
vibes Okay, suggestion rather than rather than it is vibes no,
rather than a like it being specifically a heist movie
or or a skydiving movie. Yeah, I went with nineteen
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eighty seven's The Lost Boys. Oh nice, because I just
the beach town. Yeah, the guys that you think might
be okay and then you realize that they're evil. The
the I don't know those vibes, that sense of the
storytelling and the location, the locale. I it just made
me think of Lost Boys a ton.
Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
I'd like that. That's a good one. I do want
to give an honorable mention to a later Patrick Swayze
action movie that will most likely come to the show
at some point, and that is nineteen ninety eight's Black
Dog with Patrick Swayze's Meatloaf.
Speaker 6 (01:46:50):
I do love me some black Dog.
Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Black Dog is the story of Swayzey who is a
semi truck driver who ends up getting a haul that
turns out to be meat loafs drugs, and Meatloaf kidnaps
his family.
Speaker 6 (01:47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
No, I like Black Dog a lot. So do we
have any emails this week?
Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
You know, last to check. No, but you'd never know.
Maybe we are actually loved and but I doubt it.
I mean, we did get some emails from people asking
if their clients, actors or whatever could be on the show. Yeah,
which I always enjoy responding with if we ever have
a guest, yeah maybe yeah, because we don't. I love
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when they don't even look it up. Same thing happens
on weekly spooky people will be like, you know something
that has nothing to do with oh, like the last
I don't know. I could go on and on and on.
It happens to a lot of podcasts, but unfortunately we
have no emails, no love for us as we end
Beach month. So I will remind you though. Yes you
can write us at do you even movie Pod at
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hear your thoughts on the films, especially if you may
have watched the film for the first time because we're
talking about it. That's extra fun, especially because almost all
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Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Absolutely, we do appreciate.
Speaker 6 (01:48:19):
It very much. And I've been loving the emails we've
been getting. I'll take no emails this week, since we
got like four last last week and they were all
really good ones.
Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
No, they were. I love the ones that make us
talk on subjects that we haven't talked about yet.
Speaker 6 (01:48:31):
Yeah, like global politics, not the international relations theories, campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Finding, topics that we have not spoken about yet.
Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
Oh, movies about campaign finance reform.
Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Okay, make sure it would probably come here's.
Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
Campaign finding might well be. Wow, Dave's getting getting a
little itchy there, So would.
Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
You like to know what we were talking about next
week as we kick off August the dumping ground month.
Speaker 6 (01:48:56):
I like how you gave up and that, honestly, that's
worth it.
Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
I mean, uh, this, Actually, I'm gonna give a shout
out to our to our buddy Mike H. Schuey Birdman
over at this Week in Geek podcast. He was the one.
He was because I recorded with him a couple of
days ago and he was like, so, Dave, what's coming
up in August? And I was like, we don't know,
and he was just like, well, what if you like,
August is like the dumping ground, right, Like, what if
you covered some movies that, like, you know, came out
around that time.
Speaker 6 (01:49:19):
I mean, there was never a law no that there
had to be tree months. You just got addicted to
got addicted.
Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
But yeah, January is thought to be a dumping ground
month for films, as is August because January is right
after the holidays, right into winter, and then August is
the end of summer and end of summer going into school.
So we are going to be talking about a movie
that is a remake that is actually spawning a sequel
twenty two years later, and that is two thousand and
threes Freaky Friday.
Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
Which I probably have not watched since I was a teenager.
Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
This was a big one for my for my family,
so I'm very excited to talk about this one. Plus
the free here Friday is going to be coming out
the week that we were talking about this.
Speaker 6 (01:49:53):
Still can't believe that's the real thing. The first time
I saw a poster, I assumed it was it was fake.
Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Oh yeah, well for years I saw a fake hocus
Focus to post that was them in New York City.
Speaker 6 (01:50:02):
Taking Manhattan, be half of it on a boat, the
other half of Vancouver.
Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
But yeah, Freaky Friday from two thousand and three is
next week's movie, currently available on Disney Plus as well
as rentable on Prime and fan Dango if you have
not seen it in a while. This is one of
Jamie Lee Curtis's best I say that with so much sincerity.
She's so great in this movie.
Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
I'm a massive Jamie Lee fan. Just my mother was
a massive Jamie Lee fan and rubbed off on me anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
But we also have a surprise coming for this month
of movies that I was happy.
Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
Oh your reactions, Oh yeah, yeah, that was quite a choice.
I can't wait too to dive into that.
Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
Yeah, especially since I'm gonna watch all the.
Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
Hey, dad, you wanted to bark up that tree?
Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Literally? Yeah, there we go. So yeah, that is what
we're gonna be talking about next week on the show.
Speaker 6 (01:50:46):
Yes, indeed. So I guess all that's left to say is,
thank you guys so much for listening again. Subscribe on
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try to respond as well. So I guess David. All
that's left to say is see you next jumper. Give
me two. It's way better than mine.
Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
To meet ball.
Speaker 6 (01:51:18):
To give me to meet Paul's