Ready or Not (2019) – Horror’s Smartest Final Girl? Samara Weaving’s Bloody Breakout Film - Do You Even Movie? Exploring Obscure Gems and Cult Classics

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This bride. I can't wait to be a part of
your family. Is here for the right reasons. Your thoughts
were beautiful, but his family hide and seek. He is
playing games.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good luck On August twenty third, I think that the
clayfist I just I gotta put on the games is.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Gess.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
You're not way to talk.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
In a world where podcasts reign supreme. Two friends dare
to ask, do you even?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Movie?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David de Noyer.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Spoiler alert, And I didn't say we were good, said
we were recording. They're not exactly the same thing, but yeah,
do you want to thank people for making your birthday nice?

(01:22):
It was, I mean for the most part, well, I mean,
all things considered, David, I've been on probably the most

(01:42):
ridiculous work deadline I've ever had in my life. I'm
so tired. It's so stressed out. They sent uh pages
in and of course last minute everything is everything is
like the last possible second they can get it to you.

(02:03):
But it's also like the soonest you can possibly film
is what they require, and they mean, well, but today
we were doing the final breakdown on what we're shooting
in like five days, and it was just there's just
a scene missing, like like it just goes from from
twelve to fourteen. There's just no scene, no scene thirteen.

(02:25):
So I was like, oh my god. So I checked
and sure enough it wasn't in the original either, not
the one I rewrote, not the not the not anywhere. Yeah.
So I had to message them and let them know,
and thank god, they got me another scene. It was
their mistake. But I was like, you know, it's really
hard to prep and stuff when you know, yeah, I

(02:47):
think what I resisted saying was was don't worry. I
could tell no one read this before they send it
to me.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I mean, that's got to be frustrating.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
What's frustrating is that I'm editing what we shot a
couple of days ago while prepping the next thing. And
I'm only one person. So when a problem like that arises,
I'm supposed to like perfectly handle it emotionally, not worry,
not freak out, not consider that like the actors could

(03:17):
be upset because they're not allowed to prepare properly and
just go back to sitting in the room and editing
while I'm also simultaneously waiting for messages and waiting for
this and waiting for that. It's kind of hard to
do to compartmentalize that much. So I'm not like, I'm
not loving it. I'm not loving this week. My car
is still not back. Apparently there was a major issue

(03:42):
with the installation, not with my car itself, but with
the installation of the hybrid battery. And no one told
me though, Like if they had just told me, I
would be like, oh shit, I guess it's gonna take
like three or four extra days, that's all. And that's
the worst part, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
The second time though, that no one's told you.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well no, no, well no, I sort of. I mean
it's the same they just haven't told me the same thing. Yeah, yeah,
I just found out what I wasn't told the first go. Ok,
so it's the same thing holding it up.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I thought it was a pair of gloves last time.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's what I'm talking about. They're waiting on those gloves, Okay, yeah, yeah,
Because the issue is from what I understand, that they
that it's not able to be a one man job,
which is why they had to order more of these
specialty high voltage gloves for handling hybrid batteries because they
only have one pair that they always have got. So

(04:29):
the problem was that somebody else couldn't assist an installation
without risking getting electrocuted to death. And it's like an
OSHA thing, OSHA guideline, like you have to have these
very specific high voltage gloves. Yeah, so I'm not even
the worst part is like I feel like such a
like I want to talk to your manager. But it's
like I'm not mad about how long it's.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Taken, mad about the lack of communication.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm mad because I'd like to know what's going on
so I can make a plan. And I am a
little mad because like it's just hard to do all
this work and have no car.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And there's just something about when it's like it's going
to cost a fortune and then it just takes forever.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, you paid the money and you still have to wait.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, I haven't paid it yet, Okay. I mean they
don't make you prepay, at least not the mechanics I use. Yeah,
I don't know about you, but uh no, there was
no prepay. I mean I got pre approved for financing, right,
but I haven't you know, I haven't you know, done
it yet.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
For some reason, though you said you'd already paid.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I mean I probably said that colloquially because when I
saw you on Tuesday, I probably assumed I was getting
it like the next day. Yeah, So I was probably
just kind of speaking in advance a little bit by saying, like,
and I have to pay all this money, yeah, because
it's you know, yeah, it's not like anything's going to change.
So the latest promise is hopefully end of business tomorrow.

(05:46):
The last promise was end of business Monday. Monday, I thought,
so that's two that's two more days. So they've had
my car'll have my car for almost ten ten or
eleven days at that point. Nice, you know, but it's
it's just it's just a really a great friend straighting
cherry on top of a shit Sunday. Yeah, because I'm
just trying to like get I'm trying to power through
all this stuff and this project I'm doing right now,

(06:08):
Like was, I was really excited to get ahead financially,
and now I'm actually going to be behind of where
I was because this is actually just going to pay
for the car repair. Yeah. So that's fun.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, at least taken care of. But yeah, that
does suck.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, I mean yes and no, Yeah, I feel better
when I have the goddamn car, makes sense. So I've
just been I've been burning the candle pretty hard. And
while I did enjoy rewatching the movie that we're going
to talk about tonight, I was literally for the last
forty five minutes of the week just doing deep in
breaths and out breaths, and it like barely helped. Like

(06:42):
I'm like so so.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Wound up, and we can both apologize that we're probably
not one hundred percent on our a game. The show unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Got to pick up the slack day.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, my headspace right now is just kind of bit
all over the place. Unfortunately, I had a good weekend.
I took a long weekend off because as we're recording this,
I've just basically got back to work today. I had
Friday through Monday off for my birthday. I had had
a decent weekend. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go

(07:13):
into it because it's done of my it's not my
business to share on here. But family matter, Yeah, family
family matter, A very serious family matter. Unfortunately occurred Friday,
and that kind of kind of derailed the weekend. So
while I enjoyed my time off, there's just a lot
going on right now up up my brain. So I
apologize if I seem a little off on this show.

(07:34):
I'm gonna do my best power through it alongside you.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So I mean, I'm used to I'm used to working hurt.
I don't know about you. That's that's I love how
I'll get like tired or frustrated or whatever, and then
all of a sudden, the wrestling school lingo comes right
back in. Yeah, working hurt, working hurt.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, I will say I did get to watch a
lot of good movies, not just what we're going to
talk about. We saw in theaters, but we had gone
to one of our favorite shops and I had picked
up the arrow release of Hell High from nineteen eighty nine,
which is a slasher film also known as Raging Fury.
First time I watched it, pretty simple movie. It's about
a teacher that gets harassed by her students to the

(08:14):
point that she ends up snapping and going and turning
into a slasher on them. But Joe Bob had an
intro on It had like a five minute intro.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Wow, that must be from what was the seventies.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, well, no, the eighty nines when this movie came out. Okay,
this was this was classic Joe Bob though, Like this
was I would say probably like mid nineties, judging by
the way he looked.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Mid nineties. Yes, so it was after his shows were over.
I think so, just a ton of those in the
early nineties. I know that it's like you may know it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's where he goes into this little like closet area
blows the dust off a canister. Yeah, it was one
of those what was the name of the movie, ye,
hell High aka Raging Fury.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I'm curious because he did like a big run of releases. Yeah,
it was made in Yeah, I thought you said nine.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Eighty nine when it was released. I believe could be.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, that's always a fun thing to try and figure
out thinking. And that was a DVD.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Uh, there was a yeah, the Blue ray.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, I yeah. Now I'm curious about when Joe Bob
did that because, uh, I'm wondering if the original release,
because he did a ton of those like grossest movies
ever and stuff where he didn't intro.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well because I remember for the longest time he had uh,
the longest time. But I remember one of the big
ones for a while was his his commentary or even
his little thing on a copy of I Spit on
Your Grave.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, well he did a lot of commentaries, but that
was obviously that had to be later in the nineties
because uh you know.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, shot in eighty five, copyright in eighty six, but
not released until eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
For real high but watch that.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
That was a lot of fun. Uh literally, So the
opening of the movie is the is a backstory of
the teacher and why she has like certain drama, and
literally what happens is she's playing in this little woodship
with her doll, goes to hide behind the shed cause
she hears people coming, and it's this guy and this
girl dudes wanting to have sex with his girlfriend. She
refuses him. So then they exit the shack and the

(10:09):
little girl grabs a bucket of mud throws it on
them while they're riding on his dirt bike. They fly
off the dirt bike and get him paled on these
fence posts like gruesomely, and that's the opening of the movie.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
So two thousand and four is when the DVD came
out that at the Joe Bob introduction, So that makes
it so that era I remember him doing a bunch
of little DVD things because there was also there was
also a whole era where he was on the beginning
of a bunch of VHS tapes. In fact, one of them,
I believe was two Thousand Maniacs. He did a little

(10:40):
intro for it, and that would have been I want
to say, that was right at the height of Joe
Bob's Driving of his first show, Yeah, which it's fun
it's so different because I grew up watching only Monster Vision,
you know, because I mean, well, even if I was
even if I was uh, I mean, I would have

(11:01):
been able to watch Joe Bob's Drive in yeah, his
original Drive in theater, but we did not have the
movie channel around here, so that would not have been
an option per se. But rewatching those now it's funny
because the you know, we have the the Joe Bob
Briggs formats, you have what I grew up with Monster Vision,

(11:22):
with the interstitials, which when you rewatch them, you're kind
of blown away that most of the time you got
thirty to sixty seconds of Joe Bob. Of course, at
the beginning you might get three minutes. But then you
watch drive in theater and sometimes you get seven, eight
nine minutes of Joe Bob. But then he doesn't interrupt
the film, and then he comes back at the end
says a few things about that, and then goes into
what the next movie is gonna be. Sometimes he was

(11:42):
showing three movies.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Was that more? Well, that had to be more so
I'm going to guess that was drive in than it
was Monster Vision, because the Monster Vision, wasn't it just
too Usually I was talking about driving about about uh yeah,
Jobob is the main feature, and then Joe Bob.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
That's what it says. Yeah, Sometimes they do three I gotcha, okay,
And so he would do an intro and then the
outro intro, intro, outro kind of thing, and it was
a lot more. It was very like TV. It wasn't.
There was no what's the word, There was no like
standing alone. I mean, he would talk about the time
that it was airing, you know, what was going on
in the news. He would talk about what's coming up,

(12:16):
which that was really fun too, because you're like watching
these old archival things and then you're like, god, damn,
I wish I could find because they like they did
like Killer Moms for all of October one time. M hm,
and it was just more and more and more and
every now and then, like they'd start earlier because he
started eleven. Yeah, so it would go all night and
they had a one part which was VCR theater for
people who were gonna they're not going to stay awake
that late. They just tape it. So it was cool

(12:37):
to see how they were doing it back then because
now you know, we watch them on shutter and obviously
it's like pretty much a hybrid of the two because
you have you know, long intros, but then he can
interrupt and he can technically go as long as he wants. Yea.
And for a while there he sure did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean that one where he showed it was the
new it was it the Halloween episode? It was a
Halloween episode. Would that ended with terror Train? But I
can't remember what the first feature was, but that fucker
went to like four am, yeah, because that was one
with Tim Capello at the end.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I don't think it went. It went pretty damn close.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was four am. Really it was three or four am. Yeah,
it was late.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh wait, but that was Halloween. Did they show more
than two.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, it was just two. But Terror Train, for example,
like a I think it's like a ninety two minute
movie was literally two and a half hours long.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Huh, because I know i'd even been three. Honestly, I know.
The only move the only episode that they did twice
as long or that the uh segments for longer than
the movie was Head of the Family. Yeah, because that
was a trivia thing at the jamboree they mentioned. Yeah, so,
but anyway, that's been fun to revisit.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
But yeah, hell high raging fury. If you're a slasher fan.
Late late slasher, like I said, came out in eighty nine,
was shot in eighty or copyright at eighty seven, technically
late slasher film. A lot of fun, pretty pretty simple
as far as slasher terms go.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I thought it was pretty fun overall with just how
the storytelling was and just kind of nice to see
later slasher films. You get, you get some good ones
to get some horns.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I mean, I guess that's later. I mean it's because uh,
we'll just came out in eighty nine. Well well yeah,
here's the question, though, Yeah, it would be if it
was shot in like eighty five ish. Yeah, then it
would be more in tone. It couldn't have been catching
the upswing of like what had happened in eighty six,
eighty seven, eighty eighty nine. So it's actually a dead center.

(14:21):
It was kind of just got released late, released late. Yeah,
So I mean I still get to me, Well, I'm
just seeing what was happening with slasher movies. It's it's
fun watching those older ones and watching them come to
an end. Yeah, you can really feel like a what
was that one? Slayer, the Slayer, the Slayer? Sorry, no,
the Slayer was the one that James Gunn did right
and then but uh but no, that one's fun. But

(14:45):
you could really see like, wow, this is starting to
spin its wheels. Oh yeah. Genre.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
If I had to compare it to one that you
and I like, it's a lot like Death Screams. It's
it's a lot of up front. Here's the death up front.
Then we're gonna hang out for about forty five minutes
to fifty minutes, and then we're gonna get back into
the kill and now it's over.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
See. To me, that sounds like the earlier days when
they were when well and then because then you also
get the slasher moooes and I don't know anything about
this specific movie, but then you get those slasher mooes
that like desperately didn't want to be that at all.
You had the director who was reluctant to do what
he wanted. Yeah, or as I call it, you have
on one end of the spectrum those directors they didn't
really want to do a slasher movie or what have you.
And then on the other side you have Danny Steinman, Yeah,

(15:23):
who makes Friday thirteenth Part five without seeing any of
the other ones and makes it strictly based on the
word of mouth of what people love about them. So
it's just NonStop murder and boobs.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yep, that sleeves and gore. Well, well, most of the
gore was cut.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Unfortunately, still a high BodyCount.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Still high BodyCount. Yeah, well high body count and gore.
But yeah, I mean the gore was cut back. But yeah,
that's how all those were after a certain point.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, and I think that the gore element was really
a bigger It kind of hit more as the pendulum
was swinging. Yeah, like the mid era.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, I mean basically, if you look at Friday thirteenth
as a whole. The first four probably the most gruesome
of them, because I mean five is five is definitely
up there, but like six doesn't really have a lot
because they cut a lot of it out. Sure sure
seven again, like probably seven would have been the most gruesome,
would have been most gruesome in this chapped eight barely
has any gore in it at all, except for like

(16:13):
maybe what's his face's head coming off of that one part?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, but it does have gratuitous times square.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
And it also does have that shot that I always
think is more gruesome than it actually is, with that
shit getting stabed with that or that guy getting sat
with the speargun it, Yeah, like his gut he.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Gets stabbed with the spear gun. And I always also
thought the little rubber yes tubes that shoot the projective,
I always thought that was guts. Yeah, because they were
half covered in blood and because you see what you
want to see.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, there is that. The other one I checked out
was from nineteen eighty Harlequin, which is an exploitation film
that is about a faith healer that comes into the
life of a senator who's got a son that's dealing
with leukemia and wins everybody over especially his wife, and
his wife and him start having an affair, and then
everybody starts questioning like is he actually a faith healer

(16:57):
or is he just a complete conman? And it was
a lot of fun, very weird, very ospilitation asque.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's weird to be like asking are they a faith
healer or are they a con man?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
That's yea.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Is it a horse or is it a pony? It's like, uh,
is he legit?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Because basically, yeah, is the legit performing miracles? Because you're
supposed to believe that his son is completely healed of leukemia.
There's a whole scene where he takes this woman's abscess
tooth and moves it out of her body, down her
arm to the tip of her finger and then chops
it off, which is like a scare moment of it. Sure,
David Hemmings is in it from Deep Red. He plays
the Senator. But yeah, it was a it was a

(17:32):
fun one. It was an odd one. I think it's
currently available on twob right now because actually getting a
physical release is a little difficult. I locked into one
at one of our swap shops over the weekend, but
one I've been wanting to see for a while they
talk about it just a bit in Not Quite Hollywood documentary,
so it was it was definitely word So those are
two that I've got to recommend.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Gotcha? Yeah? Wow, Thinking I think about the slasher genre
era h quite a bit because I really feel like
the like super gore stuff, I don't. I never found
the Friday movies to be that gory really. I mean
they're they're violent, they were.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I think they have that connotation to them because they
were that one that came after Halloween and everything that
really did have gore, whereas Halloween literally has like one
scene that's really like, I guess you could call gruesome esque.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I mean like, if I was gonna say, what's a
gory slasher movie from the eighties, I would say like
Texas Chainsaw two?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, oh absolutely, I mean three.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I mean, you know, the uncut version of that's really freaking.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think two is a little bit of glory there.
Two though, in all honesty, I think two is a
little bit more gorrier than three.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Though well we've never seen three in its entirety either.
There is somewhat restored, but not fully restored. Two was
always released on unrated, so it didn't really you know
you you saw it. It was really really gory.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, I mean you've seen I'm guessing you've seen the
deleted scenes of two or the workprint cut that has
a more Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
They were throwing everything at the wall in that one.
But yeah, I mean I think it's like as far
as like slasher films go for like the gorrious ones,
like the burning is one that always comes to mind.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, that one's pretty gory. That one's pretty gory.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I would also say that, oh my god, I'm blanking
on the title, but I can picture it.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Why am I blanking? This is going to kill the dishonor.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I know, great dishonor my god, I'm just blanking on
all of them right now. I mean Final Final Terror
was not really that gory, and that's like a lesser one. Yeah,
Sleepway Camp. The uncut version's pretty gruesome.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, it has some really great payoffs, really great payoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I would say two and three three had the most
gore chopped out of it. Yeah, if not all of it.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That scene with the headfirst down the flagpole, Yeah, the
hell of a moment. Oh yeah, so no, no, I
just yeah, I was just started thinking about it a
little bit about the gore aspect, yeah, because I never
really to me like the goryness the gore hounds that
came from, like as the eighties were wrapping up, like
the full cheese stuff and some of the Argento stuff

(19:53):
was where you really found the gore.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I watched the what is supposed to be the sequel
even though it really has nothing to do with it
to the shallow film What Have You Done to Solange?
And I watched What Have You Done To Their Daughters,
which is all about a child prostitute or an underdage
I got underage teen prostitute ring that starts getting found
out because they find one girl hanging from this raptor
that's pregnant. They find this guy that's in a biker

(20:17):
suit carrying around a cleaver taking out these people that
are associated with it.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Okay, and it was, I mean it was.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
It had some bloody moments, and it had some it
had some gore moments, but it was more so just
a really good crime thriller. But that's what kind of
funny for you. I mean, that's the thing is like
those Yallo films, like some of those scenes are really intense,
but like overall, like they're not people don't label them
as like that as that so much. It's more so
just going for the aspect of just the tone of
the movie more so than the actual violence, is what
I find.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah. Oh, I mean
Jallo was a precursor to the Italian Horn because that's
just kind of they just kind of started to veer
that way. Yeah, especially if you watch like The Psychic
Oh yeah, from Fulchi, you can like see where he's
going to take horror some time. Yeah, when we'll see
you know, it was a little ways away. So uh,

(21:03):
it's kind of you know in that in that way,
Fulci and Hitchcock are kind of alike in today, I
mean like in modern sentiment. Yeah, because a lot of
people feel like Hitchcock nowadays, feel like Hitchcock started with Psycho,
when in reality he was in the sixties when he
made Psycho. I'm pretty sure our late fifties. Yeah, I
mean he was he had he had all of his
Academy award nominations and stuff were behind him. Yeah, he

(21:25):
was now into this new realm where that's what But
that's when I made Psycho and the Birds and a
lot of stuff he's really really remembered for now. Yeah.
Similarly with Fulchi, it's like by the time he made Zombie,
he'd already had almost thirty years behind him westerns and
comedies and dramas and and Jallo's and tons of gallos,
and a lot of people are just like what, Yeah,

(21:45):
they're very surprised.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, both Argento and Fulci had resumes that included drama
films and westerns and all kinds of stuff before their
careers really took off. U Argento had at least I
want to say, like five Folcie had way more than that.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean Argento like how a six year span before
that as to where Fulgi had, like I think it
was like twenty five years. Well.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
But also going back to the Hitchcock element and going
back to Harlequin is written by Evward du Roch, who
also wrote Razorback Road Games Patrick, So I mean he
also impotted Hitchcock in some of those pieces as well.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Sure, I just met more just in the idea that
people kind of think that their careers start when they
were actually on their way out.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I don't think people know how many, like realize how
many films Hitchcock did, because I even just recently like
looked at his entire resume. Yeah, and there's like there's
twenty films i'd really had never even heard of.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, and there really isn't a stinker. No, he was
a very talented even.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
His two versions of the Man who Knew Too Much
both great but both very different and both great.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And then with Fulci, I mean he had so many movies.
A lot of them are totally lost. Yeah, they might
eventually get rediscovered Italy, but nobody's going to remaster like
I mean he has. I think there were like seven
his first seven movies. I mean they were just for
Italian audiences. They were very they were comedies. Yeah, they
were just not something that people are dying to get
a hold of.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, if there's one, if there is one distributor
right now that is going in and cleaning out the
minds as best they can find them, it's Severn. Because
Severn just announced a what is it, a Limberto Baba
box set that's all these TV movies that never got
released because they were too violent.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, but that was later in time, wasn't it. That's all? Yeah, Yeah,
I'm just saying like it's easier to track those down
and know what's going on with them. Yeah, Fulchi had
movies that I wouldn't be surprised. There were even a
couple that nobody knows about or that just haven't been
I mean, like they haven't been aggregated, like they're not
on wikipedi air, IMDb. But like you know, if you
asked like a film buff in Italy, he'd probably be like, oh, yeah, yeah,

(23:37):
he did these three or whatever. And they don't have
English names either, so I mean there's no English title.
They were never dubbed, And that's kind of what I'm
getting at, is the effort to find a full Chi
movie that people probably won't like because it's an Italian
comedy from the fifties. And then on top of that,
it's it's subtitled, so they'll have to I mean, they
have to make the subtitles, they'll have to do all
these things. And that's if they can find the elements.

(23:58):
But the elements are probably stored in Rome, because Italy
does have that incredible massive film storage storage place, which
I wouldn't be surprised if Mussolini had built because he
was such a movie guy. Yeah he was. He was
very into into film. Yes, Oh, that's why Italy had
such a yeah. Well, and why it had such a
burgeoning low budget film you know world, is because they

(24:20):
had so many trained filmmakers. Yeah, that they could just
pump them out. But yeah, that's something you gotta be
careful because you get me on the tirades about Italy,
it'll get really weird.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, I've had those conversations with you at midnight.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Well, I do think it's fascinating. I I think it's
fascinating how Italy would chase all of the global film
trends and just make knockoffs after knockoff after knockoff.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, I still think to this day that the Italian
Polizia films are some of the most are the absolute
hardest cop films that you can find. Like I mean
that the way that they handle violence in and of itself,
but also just the storytelling that you find in Italian
films real fucked up.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's almost like they like they grew up under a
fascistic government, crazy right and had some good example.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, I just I just remember you and I watching
Live like a Cop or what does it Live like a.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Or look like a man, Die like a cop I
like a.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Cop yeah, for the first time. And just that opening
dirt bike chase that was ten minutes long and like
running over children, running over dogs, shooting women like it
was just insane.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, you also have to keep in mind that those
movies they had to go crazy because it went both ways.
If you made a movie in America that you wanted
to appeal to and still to this this case to
an extent that you want to appeal to foreign more audiences,
then what you see is what you got to give them. Yeah,
I mean, because that's what they want. They don't really
understand the nuances of your culture's humor or whatever they

(25:41):
want to know, Like you know, man and woman, fall
in love, explosion, crash, I mean, that's it. Those are
completely they translate to everyone. Yeah, Italy similar thing. It
was like, if we're going to compete in the marketplace
in America, we have to give them all these action
pieces and stuff because that's what's doing well in America. Yeah,
and we got to pull it off cheaper, so and

(26:02):
we gotta go harder. I mean that's without a doubt.
I mean that's why you know, we love to laugh
about Canon films and like Manachem, Golan and Globis and
all them being all you know, nuts away to their
movies being so weird, but they were from a world
where that's what they did in Israel. Yeah, to make
movies that would appeal all over the world is they
would make. The movies would be like way too sexual

(26:24):
or way too violent. That was just the way they
did it.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
So you know how he started twenty first Century Productions,
of course, yeah, well that started, but or bought into it.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I just know he became a pick part of it.
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
One of his first movies was nineteen eighty nine's Fan
of the Opera with Robert England. By the way, yes,
which I showed our mutual friend Salisa this past weekend
because we both share the same birthday and I was
looking up the movie trivia while I was reading it.
Do you know that he had put so much into
the advertising campaign for that movie that when that movie
bombed so hard, he didn't have any money left to
put out his other two movies. So we had to

(26:57):
go borrow more money from distributors to get those other
films taken care of.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I mean, that doesn't surprise me. Yeah, not in the least,
and just so you know, so twenty first century, it
was twenty first Century Film Corporation. Yeah, it went on
until nineteen eighty nine. That's when it looks like Menachem
Golan was it go on? Yeah, Golan, he came in

(27:23):
and rebranded and owned the studio.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, because one of their I don't know if it
was one of their first biggest releases before him, but
one of the big releases I know is A Nightmare
aka Nightmares and a Damaged Brain.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh sure that's in here. I mean I'm looking at
like Class Reunion, Massacre, Biohazard, Doomed to Die, prison Ship
two thousand and five, Devil Killer, The Working Girls, Sweet
Sugar don't open until Christmas. Oh yeah, they put that out.
The New York Ripper put that out in America. The
Eye of the Evil Dead, which was a Manhattan baby. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I was gonna say, I was like, I know that title.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So, I mean they were already they were kind of
a it was kind of like what they did with Cannon.
They bought like a little company that had done well
enough to keep itself going. Yeah, and then Manacham was like,
it'll be bigger or it'll go bankrupt most likely second.
So with that all being said, yes, sir, so our
movie tonight wasn't a listener listener request.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
By several people, Patrick Daniel, I mean, there was several
people that requested this one through the emails.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
And this was one that we saw first run in
the theater. It's more recent. It's called Ready or Not.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
That is correct, twenty nineteen's Ready or Not.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
And before we start that, Yes, what was the party
game when you were a kid? What was the party game?
I mean when I was a kid, kid, team whatever?
I mean, I'll just go ahead and do the easiest one.
I remember when Cards against Humanity took over everything. Oh
that was your party, that was your party game.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
That was Yeah, there were usually parties to play Cards
against Humanity.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Well I could believe that, yeah, I mean I remember
when it came out. I was probably like twenty three
or twenty four when it came out, because before that,
we played Apples to Apples, which is what Cards against Humanity.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I mean, we played. Uh, it goes by many names,
but I knew it is underground Church because I played
it at Church Lockins. But it's like it's the one
where somebody goes and hides that if you find that person,
you hide with them and then wait for everybody else
to start finding.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Okay, see that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Call it underground Church. That's a cool name. That's cool. Well,
that's the best part about these these party games, a
lot of them. Who knows what the you know, everybody
calls us something different. You know, you hide and go seek,
hide and seek, hide and seek with the n in there. Yep.
For me, unfortunately it is as it's boring. It was
hide and seek. Yeah, hide and seek was really popular.

(29:39):
We did do freeze tag quite a bit, similar kind
of concept and flashlight freeze tag, but hide and seek
was was always kind of the champion.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Hide and Seek was always a good one. I was
always I always liked to capture the flag. That was
always a big favorite too.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Do you guys play capture the flag in our own
time in our neighborhood? The flag we had it? Did
you just feel like that notepaper is a flag? No,
it was.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
We had like we had like a legitimate like flag
that was like flag football style, so like we had
a couple of those. So that was what we had
and yeah, we had woods behind my friends out my
friend Nicole's house, so we would play it out in
the woods. We would have teams on each side and everything,
so we would try it. We would play Capture the
Flag no shit, for like easily like three to four
hours sometimes wow, because we'd get intense with it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well, whenever I think of of like kid games, I
always think of Pete and Pete because they'd play like
a flashlight tag all night and stuff like that. So
but I just I just was was curious because I
didn't have a ton of that going on. But it
was almost always hide and.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Seek, water Berlin fights Capture the Flag were like the
two that always happened usually for outside time.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
MM. Did you did you have that friend who sucked
like would like cheat or would would go like, no
you didn't, you didn't get me me? Or were you
that kid? I know I was not that kid.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I remember I busted our friend Kevin one time, who
was Chelsea's brother. He had he had like two flags
like stuffed in his pants that were like the same
color and like the same type of flags. Because I
think I think we got the flags from him now
to think about it, so it makes sense he's pocketed
a couple because I remember he was like, I already won,
and I went back and checked and I was like,
I see the flag right there.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
What do you mean, oh, Dave yeh. Well, hopefully in
the film we're talking about tonight, you know it's not
uh you know, everybody plays by the rules.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, I mean you know that you do what you
gotta do. Before we did into that, dude, you want
to talk about dangerous animals?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Uh, like snakes or rabbit like certain kinds of rabbits
or so.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Part of my birthday we went and saw two films,
one of which was twenty twenty five is Dangerous Animals,
directed by Sean Byrne, who was the guy that did
the Devil's Candy, one of my one of a movie
that I rediscovered recently and actually really liked.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Devil's Candy is really good.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, Devil's Candy's a lot of fun. But Dangerous Animals. Wow,
that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah. I wasn't expecting it to be great, but I
was okay with that. Yeah, I mean it's it's a
Shutter original. But the theatrical which they've been doing a
lot of since Late Night with the Devil and Arcadie.
Although Late Night with the Devil was the hit, Arcadia
was not. Although I caught it by myself at ten
fifteen at night in the theater and really enjoyed Arcadia.
But so I wasn't expecting a ton from it. Yea,

(32:05):
and you were really amped about it. It's got really
amped about it.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's got two of my favorite things, you get, sharks
and serial kills.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You should be at eight fifty five am to catch it.
We did.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, had you not called me, we probably would have
missed it, probably, and I was up, but I just didn't.
I was. I was expecting ten, not nine.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I mean, who wouldn't be. Yeah, but no, it was
surprisingly great. The settings pretty pretty reasonable. Guy takes people
on tours to see sharks, and certain people he picks
are going to be his victims that he feeds.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
To sharks while he films it very old VHS camera.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
On a wicked old VHS camera, which became so much
more of a plot device than you'd think, which I loved.
I loved that there was very little wasted motion. Things
were always paying off. I would say that the first
half was was pretty good in the middle half it
was fine, but man, that third act ties it up
with a perfect bow and makes you love it.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Perfect final girl, perfect killer at Ji Courtney, who is
who's playing the killer in this one? Who he he
was Bruce Willis's son and Good Day to die Hard.
We had pointed out some stuff, I know when we
had not done the movie, but that's the only one
I can recall. But he embodies a psychopath so well.
But also the fact that she calls him out on
how much he likes to hear himself talk was one
of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh yeah, cause I was making that joke to you
because we were the only ones in theater. Yeah, so
I was making that joke to you, Joe. I was like,
my god, this guy ever shut up? And then she's like,
you're the you love the sound of your own that
woman's base. Yeah. Yeah, that was a really fun element it.
It really worked, And the only thing that made me
laugh was, you know they have that big thing about
like filmed in Australia and all this stuff, and it's like,
I just imagine the strands, like, so we don't mom

(33:43):
giving you money for you know, make your movie. Yeah,
you know, I help you out a little bit. But
do you think you could maybe make a movie where
reason about somebody coming here and one of us just
murdering the hell out of him. Yeah? No, no, all right,
well we tried. Here's the money. You know, it's like
Australia where you go to die.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean, I still want Wolf Creak three, but I
don't think we're ever going to get at this point
the series, and I think that's the closest we'll get
to it.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't remember the series.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh yeah, we got a moo freak series temporarily, Like
I think we got like six episodes.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I want to say, well, all things are temporary, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Mean there is that. Well, Freak was a movie I
had to come around on the first one. I was
just kind of fine with. And then when the second
one came out, I rewatched it and I was like, actually,
they're both pretty good flicks.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I haven't seen the second one. Yeah, like, I need
to check it out. It's nuts. I've heard I've heard
only that it's crazy. Yeah. And then we saw the Ballerina.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yes, John Wick in the World of John Wick Ballerinas.
It's called on IMDb.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now, oh what I thought it was the john Wick
saga from.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
The World of john Wick Ballerina.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And it was a lot of fun. It was they
are definitely really trying to bring you something new yet again. Yeah,
and kudos to that. And I don't think it's a
spoiler to say that thing that they really bring is
flamethrower food. Oh my god. They they really go for
the flamethrower stuff. And in the theater with the giant

(34:54):
screen and the surround sound, when those flames light up,
the whole room gets bright and you hear the like
fire like swarms around you. It was really cool experience.
They did a good job of balancing it because the
big problem is with the ballerina jumping around and doing
all these impossible to do things, it starts to make
it could It didn't, but it could start to make

(35:15):
john Wick just the character just feel not that special. Yeah,
but they actually kind of made that not quite the case.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
This is not a spoiler, but basically, once they get
to the town towards the middle of the movie and
you think that things might calm down, they don't.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
So that was the other thing, which I don't want
to spoil, but like, yeah, that set piece was a
really cool element that also helped kind of.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Set it apart very video game ask like that felt
like that felt like a level in a video game
really easily.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
You should. You should really watched John Wickss pain, Yeah,
because they talk about how they literally wanted to do
stuff like they'd seen in video games in it, and
the studio was like, we hate that, and they're like,
well build it anyway and then they won't be able
to say no. But no. So it was really fun. Yeah,
the casting was solid. It is more of the same.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Well, story wise, it does come between three and four.
That has been a question that people have been asking you.
Actually do see a couple scenes recreated from three to
give you perspective on where this is at in the story. Yeah,
so John Wick is not alive again technically.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
No, no, Yeah, I mean you know, we'll see if
he gets resurrected. Yeah, I mean, you know, the movie ended,
but it wasn't. The third day was h but no.
Ballerina was a lot of fun, a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Those two, The Dangerous Animals Ballerina both recommended for the theater.
If you can, you will have a great time with
both of them. Absolutely, So we're talking about Ready or
Not from twenty nineteen Ali Ali Oxenfree one hour and
thirty five minutes, Rate an R for violence, bloody images,
language throughout, and some drug use.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah yeah, all of that's fair.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
IMDb synopsis says a bride's wedding night takes a sinister
turn when her eccentric new in laws force her to
take part in a terrifying game.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I don't know if you can nail it any better.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
On her wedding night, Grace takes place, Grace takes dead.
Oh my god, Grace takes place in a deadly game
of hide and seek.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Grace takes place.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I don't know why it takes part. Ah, I misspelled
that misspelled that use the wrong word.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Grace takes part in a deadly game of hide and seek,
unaware that her goal is to survive the night, while
the rest of the new family hunts her for a sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
That's pretty good. That one. That one, I almost like
a little less because it gives away. Yeah, not that
it's a huge reveal, but like, I love the fact
that you really kind of have to figure out what's
going on as it's kind of progressing.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
So the taglines include for this one. The game begins
a killer game of hide and seek, and then these
come after the title Ready or Not, They're coming. That's
pretty good, and then in laws can be murdered.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, it's pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, those are all pretty good.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
As of this time, Ready or Not is currently rentable
on private Fandango, not streaming anywhere that I could find
for free.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
For for for the cost of your subscription.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Director directors on the film are Matt Betenelli, Opplan, and
Tyler Jillette. They get their start as director and writer
in VHS in twenty twelve, Yeah, Southbound in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
They also directed in between Devil's Due in twenty fourteen,
direct Ready You're Not in twenty nineteen, Scream aka five
Cream in twenty twenty two, Scream Six in twenty twenty three,
and Abigail in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
What was the one before Abigail?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Scream six?

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Oh, Scream six? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, which I liked all
of those movies. Yeah, that you mentioned.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Southbound I think is really underrated.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I will say that I would agree. Yeah, it kind
of came out. I remember they're being buzz That's why
I write it. I liked it. Abigail's good movie, but
I will say sincerely because I know you love Abigail
and I do too. But Abigail feels like a less
effective version of Ready or Not.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Oh absolutely, There's there's several parts in Abigail where it
was just an automatic click of oh, yeah, these this
is totally the Ready You're Not guys, because there's there's
repeated actions in both movies.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I will see, Well, they're stuck in a place. Yeah,
that's the big one. Is they're stuck in a place
and they're hunting something. They just amped up the bad guys. Yeah,
which in my opinion, is what made Ready or Not
work so well. And I'll go into that a little
bit more because I kind of realized something about what's
really going on in the movie after watching it again recently.
But Abigail was good. It's just, yeah, there was so

(39:19):
much going on and I couldn't really you couldn't really
like stick to it as well.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I've watched it three times, I think, Yeah, I think
I've watched it three times now, and the second time
watching it, I will say that I had a lot more.
I mean, I already liked it when it was on
in theaters. But I had a lot more fun with
it because it just it feels like for me, it
honestly felt like one of the best vampire movies. I'd
seen it a bit as well, too, like it kind
of felt like it made vampires cool again.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I mean that is that, I mean kind of bars,
kind of low this to be.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
That's just to me, that's not to anybody else.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I know David's saying that that's how you how you
had to feel.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
But no, moving on to our writer. We have our
two writers on the film, first one being our Christopher Murphy,
who gets to start in twenty sixteen with Minutes Past Midnight.
Goes on to write episodes of Stand Against Evil in
twenty sixteen, Oh Okay, follows it up as Ready You're
Not in twenty nineteen, as well as Castle Rock in
twenty nineteen as well. Other writer is Guy Busick, who
gets his start in two thousand and six, writing Desire

(40:12):
Rights Watch Over Me in two thousand and six as well.
Urge also writes on Stand Against Evil, Ready or Not.
Castle Rock then also wrote on Scream aka five Cream
in twenty twenty two, Scream six Abigail and most recently
got screenplay and story credit on Final Destination Bloodlines.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Huh so it's funny. I literally, just a month ago
revisited the entire three seasons of Stand Against Evil. Yeah, totally,
I could totally see it. The snark is way there
in the right ways. Yeah, although I think that they
did a much better job of balancing the humor and
the horror. Although, I mean, Ready or Not is not
a comedy horror movie yeteah. I mean it's a horror

(40:49):
movie that has a lot of that's very funny.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
There has a lot of dark but cob humor right.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Oh oh yeah, It's got plenty of dark humor. It's
just I wouldn't call it a horror comedy because the
horrific moments aren't in and of themselves funny. You're still
worried that people will die and stuff like that. That
was the only thing with Stand Against Evil was it
They didn't do a great job of keeping the threats
alive all the time. It was still a really good show.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
What I think I like about most about Ready or
Not on my recent watch as well, is that it
has those moments where it's uncomfortable after because if something happens,
You're just like shit, Like, it's not like directly funny,
it's just like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, and just the reactions to the situation, which is
fair because the situation is insane. Yeah. Well yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
So moving down to our cinematographer, we also have Brett Jukowitz,
who is a DP on the film. He gets his
start in twenty thirteen with Towheads, goes on to shoot
Swim Little Fish, Swim in twenty thirteen, Lily in twenty thirteen,
Men Go to Battle twenty fifteen, The People Connection twenty fifteen,
Them That follow in twenty nineteen, which was that crazy
religious movie. Oh yeah, I didn't see it, but I
heard it was really good, Ready or Not in twenty nineteen,

(41:50):
then goes on to shoot Boogie Italian Studies, The Black
Phone in twenty twenty one, Really follows it up with
Scream AKA five Cream in twenty twenty two, season four
more episodes of Stranger Things does Scream six and twenty
twenty three, VHS eighty five and twenty twenty three, American Conspiracy,
The Octopus Murders in twenty twenty four, and most recently,
Bad Genius in twenty twenty four. He's also going to

(42:12):
be shooting ready or not here I come.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Ah the sequel, Yeah yeah, I'm looking forward to moving
out where it's gonna go. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
No, it's gonna be interesting because they don't have a
synopsis up yet.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Good.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Good.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Moving down to the cast, we have samaraw Weaving, who
plays Grace in the film. She gets to start in
two thousand and eight on Out of the Blue, then
stars in Mystery Road in twenty thirteen, Home and Away,
growing young squirrel boys. He who has it all Ash
versus Evil Dead in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yes, which I just I'm actually in a rewatch of
that right now. And when she popped up, I was like, hey.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
He follows that up with Bad Girl in twenty six
So that was after.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
That was right after I saw Bad Girl in the
theaters during the Asylum movie special thing they were doing,
which was so much fun. But I knew there would
never be a second one because almost every show was
just me at Rach and maybe Rachel if she was free. Like,
but they great stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Bad Girl tonight she comes. There's another one you told
me about.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
They showed a bunch of they showed that one. Zoo zombies.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Zoom oh zoombies. Yeah, he is not a fan of
that movie. I really That and Aquarium of the Dead
were two movies that promised something that it just did
not deliver.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
All wow, you know, and there were a few others
that they showed as well, But Bad Girl stuck out
as being really, really very good, like just a solid,
taut thriller.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, not a horror film, just a thriller about a
girl that basically imposes on another girl's life and the
family is trying to get her away from her.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Well because she's a.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Bad girl, bad girl and dah.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, but no, I just remember when I saw Samara
Weaving start popping up and other stuff like mainstream stuff.
Ye wasn't surprised based on Bad Girl alone.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Oh yeah. Well, then she goes on to do Monster
Trucks in twenty sixteen, a movie I find underrated that
a lot of people hated. I haven't seen that one
Mayhem in twenty seventeen. Yes, then goes on to do Charlie.
She was in the Charlie Pooth video for Attention in
twenty seventeen, appears in three billboards outside of Ebbings, Missouri.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh I don't remember her in that. Off the top
of my.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Head, I think he's what's his face as girlfriend? Yeah,
I think your husband's girlfriend. It's either that or she's
the daughter. I don't remember, but I feel like the
daughter is somebody big. Actually yeah, I'm not sure big
at that time. Not yeah, not physically big. The Babysitter
in twenty seventeen, Picnic Hanging Rock remake in twenty eighteen,
follows it up with ready 'or Not in twenty nineteen
Smilf Guns of Kimbo, which just revisited that recently. She's

(44:22):
awesome in that movie.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
That's fun.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I got to show you that.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That was fun. Yeah, that's a wacky movie.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
One hundred percent Wolf in twenty twenty, Hollywood in twenty twenty,
last moment of Clarity, Bill and Ted face the music
The Babysitter, Killer Queen, which I still haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Really, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I need to get on it.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
And The Babysitter I think that's the one that really
established her here. Oh fully, yeah, like you know, just
like she was here to stay after that movie because
it just kicked so much.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Hat She's still a big part in the second one.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
That's kind of the spoiler.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Okay, that's why I was curious, No Activity in twenty
twenty one, Snake Eyes in twenty twenty one, nine Perfect Strangers,
the Valet Chevrolet or Chevalier, Babylon in twenty twenty two.
Poor Babylon.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I guess everybody was in that damn thing.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Scream six and twenty twenty three one of the best cameos.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yes, yeah, no, that was a great cameo.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
La Snob Israel, two hundred percent Wolf, Borderline, and most recently,
Eenie Meani in twenty twenty five, which I don't believe
has released yet, But listen to the synopsis real quick.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I really want to watch Asriel. I kept hearing it
was really good.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Say, but the synopsis for Eenie Meanie this sounds really interesting,
so it is. Come on, load, damn you. A reformed
teenage ghettaway driver is dragged back into her unsavory pass
when a former employer offers her a chance to save
the life of her chronically unreliable ex boyfriend. Hmmm, yeah, okay,
Samara Weaving and Steve's on?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Who's Steve's on?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
The guy from Saving Silverman and joy Ride the Brother
Oh gotcha? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Eenie Meeni in twenty
twenty five. Moving down to our cast, we also have
Adam Brody, who plays Daniel in the film. He Gets
to Start in nineteen ninety nine with Random Acts of Violence,
Growing Up, Brady Undressed, The Amanda Show in two thousand,
City Judging Amy, American Pie two, Once and Again, Family

(46:03):
Law according to Spencer Smallville in two thousand and two,
The Ring Gilmore Girls Grind Grounded for Life.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
In two thousand and four, he was just a teen
a teen actor.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh Yeah, all the way, Yeah Mad TV, Mister and
Missus Smith, thank you for smoking in two thousand and five,
The Loop, The Ten in two thousand and seven, Yeah,
Smiley Face, The OC in the Land of Women, Jennifer's
Body in two thousand and nine, cop Out twenty ten,
Scream four, The Oranges, Damsel in Distress, Good Vibes, Seeking
a Friend for the End of the World, Lovelace Kroll Show,

(46:33):
House of Lies, Welcome to the Jungle, Baggage Claim New
Girl Life Partners, Think Like a Man in twenty fourteen,
The Cosmopolitans, The League, Sleeping with Other People, Yoga, Hoss Chips,
Big Bear, Holly Weed, Isabelle Startup Ready or Not in
twenty nineteen, then goes on to do Shazam, Jane and
Silent Bob reboot, promising young woman Missus America, The Kid Detectives,

(46:53):
Scream AKA five Cream, My Father's Dragon, Shazam, Fury of
the Gods, River Wild remake in twenty twenty three, which
I have yet, but I've heard is good because I
love The River Wild with Meryl Streep Kevin Bacon, really
good nineties thriller. Then goes on to do American Fiction
The Gutter, Good Cop, Bad Cop, and most recently Nobody
Wants This in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I've heard nobody wants this as good.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I have not seen it yet, but I've heard the
same as well. Wrapping us Up is Henry Sernie, who
plays Tony in the film. He gets a start in
nineteen eighty six with The Edison Twins. Uppears in the
Friday thirteenth of the series in nineteen eighty nine, Oh
Tea and T, the short lived Mister T Show, Oh Okay,
It's Top Cops, Street Legal, A Town torn Apart in
ninety two, The Boys of Saint Vincent in ninety two,

(47:37):
Secret Service in ninety three, counter Strike in ninety three,
and then you could say, you know, he's got too
much pride because he also stars in in nineteen ninety
three Cold Sweat. That's a joke for you, only for you.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Pretty much. That's such a deeply, deeply underrated it's not real.
I mean, it barely ticks the boxes to be an
erotic thriller. But it's a great movie, and I love
Cold Sweat.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I wish they'd bring it back to Netflix.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
That was a time, or just anywhere, yeah, or anywhere.
I don't know if it's if it's really available readily.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I've not checked in a while. Man in Uniform in
ninety three, Lifeline to Victory, Kung through the Legend continues,
Clear and Present Danger in ninety four when night is Falling,
Notes of the Underground Mission, Impossible Original in ninety six,
The Ice Storm in ninety seven. Oh oh yeah yeah
remember previous episode Promise the Moon, Glory and Honor, the
Girl next Door mentors Cement after Alice Haven, The Packed

(48:27):
Salem Witch Trials in two thousand and two, Klepto CSI,
The Limit, Kojack Exorcism, Emily Rose, Chaos, The Pink Panther Ghost,
Whisper fid Oh in two thousand and six, where replays
the evil guy running the town Oh Yep, the Fifth Patient,
The Tutors, Flashpoint, monk Ice, Castles, The A Team, Falling Sky, Satisfaction, Revenge,
Lego Dimensions, Rosewood, Curse of Buckout Road, Sharp Objects, Does

(48:50):
Ready or Not? In twenty nineteen, Supergirl Shits Creek, Scream six,
Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning, Zombie Town in twenty twenty three,
Are a Little Secret, and most recently, Mission Impossible, Final Reckoning.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Oh wow, I I just watched that. I don't remember.
That was a lot going on in that movie.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
That's what's crazy is he comes back for these last
two movies because he's in the He's in the first
one because he's the guy that basically tells Ethan that
he's been burned in the first one, like when he
throws that gum on the glass and had that whole
wave happens. That's the guy he's talking to. Okay, so
I think he's like, I don't know if he's like
the head of I six or who he is exactly.
He's like one of the.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Top guys, gotcha, top men? Top men?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
So what was your first time watching Ready or not.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
That is an interesting story, Not really, uh, I mean
it was in the theater. Yeah, And it was one
of those movies that just kind of all of a
sudden we saw commercials for it or trailers for it.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I feel like we caught it opening night, did we.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
It was either opening night or or immediately following the
opening weekend. We definitely saw it immediately. Yeah, And we
didn't really know what to expect from it per se,
but the trailers looked really fun. Yeah, and I just
remember being blown away. It was one of those that
when it was over, I was like, I might come
back and see this in a week Yeah, in the
theater again. Yeah. So that and that doesn't happen that often.

(50:01):
It's a special moment, especially with genre movies, when one
you haven't heard that much, you know, crazy buzz about
or I haven't seen that much crazy marketing for just
kind of drops. And it was a modest budget movie
for a theatrical release, so it comes out, we go
see it and we're just like, holy crap. We were
like laughing and hollering the whole way through it and

(50:22):
until the end, and then we would just walked out
going God Damn. That was great.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
The ending, is what I mean. I had already liked
the movie as we were watching in the theaters, and
then that when that ending happens, I was just.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Like, oh shit, this is awesome, Like this is awesome. Well,
and there are two ways you could do that ending, well,
I mean two directions you could take that ending, and
for me personally, they took it the least interesting way.
Except they did it the most interesting way. So I
love it like I love it because from a story standpoint,

(50:52):
I would have preferred it went the other way. I
think it could have been more like whoa, whoa, but
having it go the way it did, but the way
they executed it, yeah, is what made it perfect and
memorable and made me. You know, when the movie went
to credits, I was just like, god, damn.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I've got trivia about the original ending and it didn't
sound great. Okay, So the movie opens as we see
two children running from a guy that is behind them
and that one of them is daniel Le Damos and
his brother Alex, and they are inside the family's mansion.
And while this is happening, we also go over a
bunch of different board games that have the the is
it the labeling of La bail at that point maybe,

(51:31):
or I think it's Labail.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I think it was Duma because their company was Dumas.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Wasn't its is? Yeah, Dumas is their name, but La
bail Is is the person that we'll get to in
the story. But yeah, So there's a wounded man behind them.
The kids are running and finally they catch up. They
catch up to this room by themselves, and the one brother, Daniel,
hides his brother Alex away. The wounded man comes up
to them and he's like, you know, help me, help me,
and that's some Daniel's like, he's in here. And then

(51:55):
the family enters wearing all these ridiculous, like creepy masks
and they're like, oh, we're so out of you, and
they shoot the guy with the spear gun drag him off,
and we see also a woman is crying and pleading
for them not to do this, and then they take
the man behind the door and shut the door as
the mother comes over to Daniel and says, I'm so
proud of you. And that's the opening of Ready or Not.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
She's here, which I like, my guts turned to like
like being a kid playing that game where yeah, don't
sell me out, Yeah, don't sell me out.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
So now it is thirty years later and we see
a woman that is Samara Weaving and she is looking
out over this really nice back area of this mansion.
They've got this photo shoot they're stting up for. She's
having a cigarette and basically talking about the fact that
like she's getting married into this family but doesn't feel
like she fits in.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah. Well, because they are very very wealthy.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Very wealthy, very very wealthy. Indeed so wealthy they they
are the successful heirs of the La Damas family Games company,
and this is going to be a big deal because
she is not somebody that fits into their family. She
is a foster child. We find out she doesn't have money,
and basically everybody in this family obviously comes from money

(53:06):
or has the money that the wealth has brought them from.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
The game company. Oh and so from what I could
figured out, the company is not called La Bale's. It's
that they have a game called La Bale's Gambit Gambits,
and they have a few other like games similar to that.
But they're La dolmas Lamas Okay, because they have the cards. Remember,
because it all started with a card game, and then
board games, and then sporting goods and then sports teams.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, so all included in the family is Daniel and
his wife Charity. We've got Alex and his cocaine addicted
sister Emily and her husband Fitch, and their young children's
Georgian Gabe, which they're not.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Here yet, no no, no good, they show up late.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
And then we also have Becky and Tony that are
Daniel and Alex's parents, along with Alex's aunt Helene.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Oh Aunt Helene, and Helene's one of my favorites. She's
the funnest because like, whenever something happens, you're like, hey,
where's Aunt Helene. I want to see her reacting to
this too, because he's got this like don king thing
going on there, sticking straight.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Up and super always like not frowning, but just like
scowling scout.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
No, she's always scowling. Well, she's got jet black eyebrows
and super white hair sticking straight up, constant scowl. She
looks like like a broke dick dog's that's a good
way not to get too scientific.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
And we should also point out that Becky is played
by the Great Anny McDowell, who's returning from Groundhog Day.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
M yep, yes.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
And so we see that Grace and Becky are sitting
on the stew and Becky comes out smoking a cigarette.
Grace was smoking a cigarette anden we met her and
she offers her one and she's like, oh, I don't smoke.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah. She wants to be as perfect as possible. Yeah,
because she's worried about fitting in with the blue blood
and she even makes this converstion like, oh, worried that
your blood isn't as blue as ours, and she kind
of laughs for a second. I do like when she's
talking to her fiance slash husband. At one point, she says, like,
afraid that they'll think I just want your money. He
was like, well they do, yeah, and she's like He's

(54:58):
like that's just normally.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
This is normal.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, what do you expect? And I but I like
that because that moment is really funny because he's not
going to lie to her. He's not gonna be like, no,
nobody thinks that. No, that's the first thing people think
when you're married the family. But all you have to
do is prove them wrong. Yeah, you know, and then
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
So Helene has shot Grace at Death Glair at this point,
and that is when they are all getting ready to
gather for the ceremony of the evening. This movie moves
pretty quick. It doesn't fast.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
One of the coolest things about this movie is the
wedding is such a small part. We're already past that.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
So they're married, yeah, and now it's their wedding night.
And of course I felt so bad for uh, what's
the main character's name, what's Grace? For Grace, I felt
so bad for her because he tells her like, we
play a game, and she's like, ooh, it's like with
the fit in the game room, h family, And she's
just like because they're.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Trying to get intimate. And that's when Helen comes in
and she's like, hey, we got the ceremony to stick to.
And that's when he has to explain, like, we have
to play a game. So they all sit down in
this room, and that's when Tony basically tells her that
when he when their family was just first like in
the country, like, is it Vincent? I think is the
uncle's name? Check here?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
What does One of the original family patriarchs was on
a fishing boat met a strange guy, Vivictor Letamas. Yeah,
and he met a strange guy named Label who collected
curios so that he could take them back to America
and sell them to wealthy people. They ended up striking
up a friendship, playing cards all the time and drinking
and having fun. And one night Leabail was like, if

(56:29):
you beat me in this card game, I'll invest in
any idea you want. So he won the card game,
and then he explains the families how the family's fortunes
grew each generation, it got even bigger and bigger. And
it's a pretty neat way to kind of set it
all up because they're in this room full of board
games to choose from, and I do want to mention

(56:52):
real quick. There was a little moment where the matriarch
of the family mentions to Grace, like Beckyr mentions of
Grace like bring him back to us. Yeah, so we
now know he's like never around his rich family because
they were even little parts which just like I just
don't feel like, you know, I just want to fit
in with these people. And he's like, it's a good
luck I never felt like that.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
He's very like it's clear he's the black Sheep of swords. Well,
and there's also a family full of black sheep.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I was gonna say there's also problems in the family,
because one of the things that they say during the
ceremony before we even get to the wedding is how
Fitch and his wife are not there, and like he's
pissed because he's just like, you know, I can't believe
they're not here yet. And then they show up right
before the game night, and Emily is clearly on coke.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Well at one point she wipes your nose as you
oh yeah, please the cocaine out. Yeah, And they mentioned
that it was because their normal charter plane was wasn't
on wasn't available.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
So they got their sons, Georgian Gabe as well, and
so like everybody's sitting down now, and that's when they
go over what the game is going to be this evening,
which is they have this box Bail gave him and
everybody has to every time that somebody joins the family,
they have to draw a card from the box. And
that's the game they played, Like what's their face? Got
to play old maid?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And what's every time they marry him? Every time yeah,
they don't do it to the little kids. Yeah yeah, yeah.
One of them says, we play old Maid. Yeah, you know,
what the hell? So the way it works is you
take a Ladomas playing card, you stick it into the box,
and then you press the button basically, and it pops
out on When'm wrong. It wasn't a card gaming when
it was if you could solve this puzzle box, Yeah,
that's what it was. Sorry, And that's what they have now,

(58:15):
is the box that the victor originally solved that started
the business or whatever. She pulls out the card, holds
it out and it says hide and seek, and then
she goes hide and seek? Are we really going to
play hide and seek? And everybody goes quiet, dead quiet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
So that's when you see Tony kind of being like, yeah,
that's exactly what we're gonna do. And he instructs Grace
to stay hidden until, you know, until the dawn. And
basically as she goes to hide, we see that the
family just starts arming themselves.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
And she even says like, I guess, I mean I
can't really win, I can't windy, I mean, you could
stay hid until until She just laughs at that idea
because like that sounds really bored.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I thinks it's a game entirely.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Well, is it is a game?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
It is a game.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
They think it's a game.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
My favorite part of this whole scene, as she goes
to hide, they put on this record that comes back
again towards the end of the movie, which is just
the Hide and Seek song, and we just see them
arming everybody with guns except for Fitch and Emily, who
appropriately get an axe at a crossbou.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yes, and so they're all being armed because she gets
they have to count to one hundred. Yeah, that's her
time to hide. They also mentioned that they are disabling
the security cameras because they don't allow the well, they
don't allow the games to be played in any way
that they couldn't have been played when Victor was alive.
So no security cameras, No, even their weapons are not modernized.

(59:29):
They're all from back in the day. And she goes
to hide, and we're learning that generally it's fine, Yeah,
you get married, you sweat for a little bit, you
pull the card, and then it says like chess old
maid whatever. Yeah, but when it's hide and seek, shit
is going down. And this is the worst case scenario

(59:50):
of what could have happened.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Basically, when you draw hide and seek, that means that
you have to hide from the family who is trying
to sacrifice you to keep the curse up from going
upon them from basically an acting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah. So, and they don't know when it will draw. Yeah,
because from what they've said, the last time it drew,
her husband and his brother and all they were all
little kids were not even born yet, so it has
been probably thirty years since that part has popped up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Well, and we also see that Alex immediately is sitting
this out, so Grace, you know, Grace doesn't see that happen,
but Alex basically tells the family he's going to sit
this one out, and the family just goes off on
their merry way as the song ends, and now it's
time to seek.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yes, and from here we get a cat and mouse
game with a lot of hilarious stupidity. Yeah, and this
is where I kind of got a new appreciation for
what they did with the characters. I don't know if
anybody else has picked up on this, but you know,
as they're they're hunting into a hide and seek, they
keep accidentally killing the help.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yes, she's hiding in the dumb waiter. One of the
help gets shot in the head by Emily. Then another
help gets shot with the spear by Emily.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Shoots yeah, sheep. They keep killing people by accident, and
they start killing each other by accent. I mean, it's
you know, where else could the movie go. But one
of the things that I found amazing about the movie
as a whole is these people, this family, they are
all horribly incompetent. And at first I took that as

(01:01:24):
just a part of like the comedy, you know, the
comedy of like how to keep the story movies, like, oh,
they're so dumb. Think about it a little bit more.
They are darkly blessed. You know. They made a deal
with the devil basically, and that's what allows them to
have all the success. None of them are competent human beings,
and none of them have ever had to be competent

(01:01:46):
in anything. Literally, everything is handed to them, you know,
because even when you look at like it, and in
real life, when you have a family business passed down
generation after generation after generation. We all like to think
of businessinesses that got bigger and bigger and bigger. But
that's the smallest number. Multi generational businesses, generally they fail

(01:02:08):
because inevitably, like so and so son just isn't a
good business person or is smart enough to sell it
and get out. So in this family, we have like
three generations of like bringing this business to huge prosperity,
but not by any means of their own ability. They're
legitimately stupid. They don't they can't even they can barely

(01:02:31):
dress themselves. And that's what makes this movie so funny,
but also kind of like WHOA. When I thought about that,
I was like, shit, that's a really interesting point though,
is like they're just bad at effort because they don't
have to be good at anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
One of my favorite things with Fitch's character is he
literally pulls up a video to see how the crossbow works, which,
by the way, is the directors of the film that
are in that instructional video.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I do love that He's like, how do you can
use the things that he's looking at you with YouTube video?
Which is what we'd all do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Yeah. So, by this point they've killed two housekeepers. Grace
is trying to get out with Alex help because Alex
intervenes at one point and he basically tells her, I'm
going to distract them. I'm going to turn the security
system off so you can sneak out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah, and we should mention it because the place is
locked like automatic loge out too. Yeah, and everything is locked, windows, doors, everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
And he admits also that he didn't tell her about
it because he feared that she would leave him. So
can't imagine why she.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Had told him that marriage was like an absolute necessity.
And we found out throughout the first act that she
grew up in Foster care yep, and that she had
a mixed bag of experience and she had some good
experiences and some bad experiences, but that in the end,
what the real problem was was that it ends, and

(01:03:41):
that her whole goal in life was to meet somebody
and have a family for once in her life. So
he's not wrong. She it sounds to me like she
basically gave him like a marriage ultimatum once they had
been seeing each other somewhat seriously. So you feel for
him because at first, you know, your first instinct is
be like, what a bastard bringing her into this, But
it's like she all she wanted in the world was

(01:04:03):
to get married and meet his family and have a family,
you know, be a part of a family. And then
on top of that, there was the chance that they
would just get jin Rummy. There is that chance, yeah, yeah,
or operation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
But I also love that the game also brings out
a concept for the brother Daniel play by Adam Brody,
because he doesn't want to do this shit. He's drinking
the halfway through this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Basically, Oh, he's pretty much drunk from the moment he's
around the family.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, because there's one point where he's even in the study,
poor and drink, and Grace is in there and he
sees her right away and she's like, you know, please
don't tell. He's like, I've got to. He's like, but
I'll give you like a ten second, head star.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I won't say anything for ten seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
She's like but but and then she just runs and
he waits ten and he says he's in here. I
love that too. Yeah, there's all this this dichotomy that
the family elements are really interesting because you have the
people who are tired of this but are going along
with it anyway, and then you have the people who
are obsessed with this because they truly believe in that
curse and we find out that if they don't kill

(01:05:02):
her by sunrise, there is a termination clause. And I
love that that's the phrase termination clause, but it's of
the entire family, of the entire family.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
But also there's that whole thing of they don't know
if it's real or not. They don't know if it
actually is legit. They're afraid of it, but they don't
know if it's real.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
But they have had things happen, like the one family
member who refused to play at all, he and his wife,
who was a part of their family, just woke up dead.
Woke up dead, Yeah, the next day. I love that
waking up dead. I'm a fan of that phrase too.
But then also on top of the waking up dead,
then it's like they mentioned like neighbors houses burned down,

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but like the truth was much more horrific. So you
keep hearing all these things that are like they're not
certifiable evidence, but it's enough to keep nearly everybody afraid. Yeah,
and and her you know, husband is telling her like
I they've told me about people I never even met
who died because they refused as they refused. Yeah, yeah,
so that's really interesting. And the funniest part too, is

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like the couple who woke up dead. Remember that's like
you refuse to just play whatever it was. So he
literally was just like, I'm not playing sorry, and then
just up dead.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I'm not playing no mercy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Oh man, that'd be terrifying for Bail. Bail must have
developed that game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Probably, So by this point, she's torn her dress to
make it easier to run.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
She's had a wedding dress the whole movie, which is
one of the best design options. I mean that cover
art with her with the wedding dress, but her running
around this wedding dress that is getting more and more destroyed, destroyed,
She's ripping pieces off, and by the end of this
movie Tomorrow Weaving is a molted milk dud. She is
so burnout, beat up, bloodified, and she just kills that

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mentality as she just becomes because by the end of
the film she's basically just grunting with a knife. Just ah,
it's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
So she's torn her dress at this point, put on
tennis shoes, and she's also found a rifle and ammo
and now she's hiding in the kitchen because Alex is
watching the cameras he's trying to get her out the door,
but also the housekeeper is there. It was his name, Stevens. Yes,
the butler is there and he's trying to make tea
and he hears Grace loading the rifle. She gets caught again,
and that's when he ends up getting a teapot smashed

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over his head.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Well, because it turns out that the gun, well, the
gun is real, that the bullets on the display are
just for show. Oh yeah, plake.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
What's his face from? Nasty piece of work?

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Real control?

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Oh god, silliest thing ever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
So, so she smashed the teapot over his head. She
gets out the door. Alex gets her out the door,
and that's when Tony and Daniel find Alex in the
control room and they attack him. So they've got him
handcuffed to the bed. At this point, he is out
of commission because.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
They realized he was trying to doom the entire family.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, so that is when she is outside on the
roof and Tony and Helene can hear or excuse me,
Tony can hear Helene talking, And that's when they know
that Alex is also basically rejected the tradition. At this point,
my apologies.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Guys heard it here. First, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
I think that was Sally May. Unfortunately again, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Mean he could have could you could silence your phone phone,
you know, it's the ecosystem. Yeah, that you could have said,
is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
So that is when Grace is almost out of the
house now and she's spotted by the third maid and
she's hiding in the dumb waiter that the the maid
tries to alert everybody but accidentally turns on the dumb waiter,
crushing herself well, and the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Worst part is Grace is trying to tell her, like,
it's okay, you can come out. I'll hide in there
because they're not looking for you, yeah, looking for me,
And then she's like she's here. Yeah. So it crushes her,
makes her blood blood come out of her mouth. And
then I think that was like the last of the
help other than Steven.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah, that's the last of the help other than Stephen.
So by this point now she's made it outside of
the stables and she sees Georgie, one of the little
kids walking around for some reason thinks that he's gonna
help her, but he ends up shooting her in the hand,
which tosses her into the goat pit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Oh, but I love well. First he shoots her in
the hand. Yeah, she looks at her hand. They have
that great like sound of like your ears ringing, you know,
and then she just cold cocks nine year old boy. Yeah.
And it's it's a great moment though, because there's just
that moment of like it's like they like they let
you watch the adrenaline go into our system. Yeah. Wow, Yeah,

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it's so good. It's so great moment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
A goat startles her. She falls into this goat pit,
which is actually all the corpses of the past members
of the Games as well, So now she's in a
body pit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Well, and then we had a we have a reference
to the idea that they also sacrifice goats. Yeah, because
at one point her husband is talking about how when
he was a kid growing up, the thing that scared
him wasn't that they were sacrificing goats and chanting. It
was that it felt normal. It felt normal. Yeah, because
even says, you know, it wasn't that that was disturbed me.
It was that it all felt normal. Mom, Like, that's
what the problem was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
So she tries to climb out, gets her hand and
pailed by a nail, but she eventually pulls herself up
and that's when she runs back outside manages to break
through the front gate, only to get flagged down, and
that is when it's on. After that, Steven spinds her,
knocks her out, puts her in the car, and he
starts driving off, except he's got the camera in the
front of the car the entire time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
You missed one of my favorite scenes. What's that She
steals a car? Yeah? First, yeah, And as she's driving away,
basically a version of on Star kicks on, saying like
how can I and she's like help. People are trying
to kill me. He's like, okay, well, we'll call an ambulance.
She's like call the police. Is like I can. I
can do that too. Oh, I'm sorry. The car shows
it's been stolen. I have to deactivation. What what the fuck? Yeah,

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and it's like the car stops. He's like, don't worry,
the police are on their way, and she's like fuck you. Yeah,
It's just this is a great moment. Before then Stevens
comes up and one of the strongest jump scares of
the movie. As she's sitting in the car, he just
slams his fist right through the window and gives her
So now she's in the back of the car. He's
facetiming the family from the dashboard so they can see
her waking up. But of course Stevens is too busy

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jamming to his opera.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yes he is, he's jammy to his classical music, and
that's when they see Grace is waking up in the back.
They're trying to warn him, but she kicks him twice
in the head. The car ends up rolling over into
a field and Steven's is dead, but Grace yes, So
she gets out and Daniel finds her and he's you're thinking,
for a second he's gonna let her go, but then
he ends up knocking her out, and then you see
that Tony, the dad has been there the entire time as.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Well well, and he's basically made the realization that even
if this and if they survive, yes, she's gonna leave him. Yeah,
And that's the moment where he basically reverts to his family. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
So that's when we got that scene that we were
talking about where Becky goes to talk to Alex and
Alex basically tells her that even even if they try
and kill her, he will try and kill them, like,
he's not gonna let this happen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah. He tells his own mother like, I'll kill you
when this is over. Yeah, and she goes well, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
So the family catches up with Grace at this point.
She has been placed on an altar to begin the
ritual sacrifice, and that's when they pass around this chalice
to drink from it. Except they all start violently puking.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
And it's a great moment too, because it just kind
of it starts happening and then they're all like, one
by one, they all just start vomiting. Yeah. So we
figure out that the screw up drunk brother Yea, has
poisoned them all. It's really funny when she's like, did
you kill them one? I was like, oh no, they're
just sleeping there. I looked it up online. They're gonna
they're gonna poop weird for they're gonna shoo weird for
a week.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
So Daniel actually tries to help Robb, but while this
is happening, Charity finds them ends up shooting Daniel in
the throat, so Daniel goes down.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
He is dead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
By this point, Grace fights Charity to get the gun,
but the bullets are gone, so she ends up pistol
whipping her instead, which I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Oh that's a great click. And then she's like she's
about to get her again. She's and it's like a
three fifty seven magnet. Yeah, it's a heavy piece of metal.
So when she hits her, it's like, hell, yeah, you
did yea very in that way whenever the whenever Grace
is around and defending herself, it has very like red
eye vibes and that she mostly does what makes sense
to the audience. Yeah, so it's very satisfying. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
So by this point, Alex catches up to his brother.
He tries to save him, but that doesn't work. So
that's when Grace is then found by Becky, who misses
her with an arrow. She tries to strangle Grace. Grace
pulls the tablecloth down and grabs b Bail's box, trying
to knock Becky off with it, but she ends up
getting black Ludgend with it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, she beats her to death with Labelle's box. Yeah,
which is a great you know, payoff, a great setup.
It's very very I mean, the movie it really moves
this fast. It's ninety five minutes, and it just goes
and goes and goes and goes and goes. Yeah. Plus,
if we tried to break it down harder, you'd have
to remember all these people's names. Yeah, good luck. Yeah,
I mean not just you, but I mean the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Audience.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
So Alex comes in, sees that his mom has been bludgeoned,
and by this point he's like, Okay, well, since you're
probably not gonna take me back, I guess now I'm
just gonna kill you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
I guess I'm just gonna go along with it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So everyone continues the ritual. Now Grace
is tied down once again, and just as Alex is
getting ready to plunge the dagger, Grace breaks free from
Alane's grip and that's when the dagger goes into his shoulder.
She gets off the table, holds the dagger towards the
family while screaming. And right at this point, we realize
the sun is up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Yes, the sun has now risen entirely. Yeah, and they're
all standing there scared, looking at the light coming in.
And this is such a brilliant moment. Oh yeah, because
now it's all it's all coming home to roost, all
the concepts we've been fed throughout this whole movie, it's
all here to roost. And as the sunlight hits them,
they all kind of close their eyes like afraid, waiting,

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and then nothing happens. Nothing again. Remember what I said
about how like they're like the most insufferably ignorant adults,
like they just have no skill of anything. They're also
impatient because they're just kind of like, nothing happened. It
was you mean, it was all bullshit. And I love
how they like turn to Grace and like nothing's happened,
and she's like yeah, because she's like like she's like ready,
she's like a caveman. Oh yet she's ready to just

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fight the debt for the debt for life. So also
why this has happened. Fire has now broken out in
the mansion as well through the various fights, so the
mansion is slowly starting to burn. And that's when we
also hear a familiar record get thrown back on and
it's the Hide and Seek song. And I love this
because the record's warped because of the heat, so it
sounds really murky and everything. But the st the song's
still playing, and so Aunt Helene is just like, well,

(01:14:53):
fuck it, I'm still gonna kill you anyway, charges towards her,
and then boom, she explodeson the basically just liquid blood.
And the reason I love this as the family begins
to all explode one by one. The reason I love
this is because overall, would I like, if if it
were me writing it, I would kind of like it

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to all be not real, because that could be like
a really mentally woe. Yeah, but you know, if it
when it turned out to be real, it could have
been done lame. They could have like turned to ashes
or or you know something. Having them just explode is
what really makes it work great because it's shocking, it's
kind of funny. It's funny because you're just like, that's

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the uncomptable laughter off talking about it, just like that
first one when when it happened with Aleen, it was
just like, oh shit, yeah, because you're like, well, hell's bells, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Then the family just follows in turn. You've got You've
got Tony who's like crying that he doesn't want to
do this anymore. Charity Justice, She's like, I want to
go home. Explode everybody just starts a little for two.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Kids explode off screen, but they like go through the
doorway and then you see bam, bam bam. Three of
them explode all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
So the only one left out is alex Is. He's
face off with Grace and he's like, you know, I'm sorry,
you know, I didn't want to kill you, and she's like, yeah,
I didn't want to fucking die.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yeah, I love that life.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
So he's asking for her forgiveness. She just takes a
ring off, throws it at him, and as soon as
the ring bounce, and as soon as the ring bounces
off of him, he just blows up right in front
of her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Which made me wonder if the actual deal was they
both could have lived if they hadn't if they were married. Yeah,
that that was what that would have allowed to live.
I don't know, or it could have just been the
weird timing of their explosions, because at first, when the aunt,
the old aunt explodes, you're like, oh, maybe it's like
senior most downward, but then it just kind of they

(01:16:38):
just start popping. So it's that did make me wonder,
But regardless, the timing is beautiful for it. He explodes
she gets splashed in the face yet again with blood,
and the way they play up her just standing there
with the blood of his like eugh. And then they
hear the sirens coming from a distance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
You forgot the best part. Flames kick up in a
chair at the head of the table and we see
a very quick shot of Labaille who just nods at
her and then fires away and she goes, fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
No, it's it's perfect. It's perfect. So then as she
hears the sirens wailing off in the distance, she goes
out to the front step. Yeah, sits down in her
bloody wedding dress, gets as. On her way out, she
grabs the pack of cigarettes from the from the dead Becky.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
She lights up a cigarette and just smokes it like
with a shaky hand covered in blood. As the police
lights light up and that well, the cop walks up,
Oh yes, yeah, and he goes to you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Yeah, he goes, what the hell happened here? She takes
a puff off the cigarette, blows the smoke and goes
in laws. And that is twenty nineteen, ready or not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
And that's such a memorable image, her on the stoop
with the cigarette. I've seen that in so many memes.
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Oh yeah, no, it's a very very popular one. So
would you like to guess? Oh, I was wrong? Actually,
would you like to guess what the budget was?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Twelve six six? Wow? Was okay? Because I thought it
was eight Well you said eighty six. That's a very low.
I thought it was really reason low.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yes, six million is the budget. Opening weekend, which is
August twenty fifth, of twenty nineteen. It makes eight million
dollars grossing in the US and Canada twenty eight million,
going on to gross worldwide fifty seven million.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
That's a really great hit. Yeah, big, big hit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Principal photography began on October fifteenth, twenty eighteen, and concluded
on November nineteen, nineteenth of twenty eighteen. The thirty five
day shoot took place at locations around Toronto, Ontario area,
including Castaloma, Sunnybrook Park and Clareville Conservation Area, as well
as the Parkwood Estate in Oshawa, Ontario.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
A lot of the film was filmed at Cassiloma in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
It is a designated Heritage property and is a museum
that is open to the public. You can take tours
of the building and learn about its history. You can
even walk through some of the secret passages. Many movies
were filmed there, including Crimson Peak from twenty fifteen, The
Pacifier from two thousand and five, X Men from two thousand.

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Exterior shots at the mansion from the film were also
were from Parkwood Estates in Oshawa, Ontario, which are the
same estate grounds used in Billy Madison in nineteen ninety five.
The goat Pit was the only set built for this film.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
That's surprising.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Yeah wow, So the bedroom is part of Casa Looma preservation,
meaning not only were they not allowed to light any candles,
but they also couldn't touch half the furniture or decorations.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Lavaiale means lease agreement in French. Mister labail allows the
family their wealth.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
I do love that one part where the head of
the family where he just turns to the picture of
victory he goes, couldn't you have negotiated better terms like
maybe not a family termination clause? I love that moment too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
They submitted nearly two hundred fictional board game names, but
only eight or so were cleared by the legal department.
The games in the cabinet are Family Ritual, Secret Council
Label's Gambit Sunrise and Abra cadabra.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Pretty solid, Yeah, pretty solid choices.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
The first long shot of the two kids running through
the hallways are actually three shots with two cuts edited
when the two kids turn a corner and the image
goes dark.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I love that opening to gets you kind of like
amp for it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yeah. The montage of the family preparing and donning their
robes and the lead up to sacrificing Grace originally showed
Daniel drinking more, but Brody wisely suggested a take where
he goes the opposite direction and is clearly sobering up instead.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
That's the one they ended up going with. Nice, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Margo Robbie was considered for the role of Grace before
Samorroaw Weaving was cast. The two actresses are noted for
their similar physical appearance, being of similar age, and both
being Australians.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Yeah that, uh was okay. Samara is Australian. I couldn't.
I didn't know if she was Australian or if she was
a Kiwi. Yeah, so, but I could see Margot Robbie,
but I could see they couldn't afford her to save
their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
By this point, yeah, because I think by this point
she had done Suicide Squad.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
She was a huge name. Yeah, yeah, I mean for
six million dollar movie. I mean you'd, yeah, you'd have
to be Blumhouse to get Margo Robbie on that low budget.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Grace's shivering in the photo shoot scenes wasn't performative. In
the commentary, Samoraw Weaving mentioned that it was cold when
they were shooting that scene, hence her shivering, but it
worked to make her look more convincingly nervous, something Weaving
herself admitted.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
I believe that I means Canada, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Samorrow Weaving. By the way, the niece of Hugo Weaving.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Yeah. During the wedding photos, Charity tells Daniel that Grace
will never be a part of the family. Daniel replies,
of course not, she has a soul. At the time,
this seems like a slight against his wife and family. Later,
it is revealed that the members of the family have
sold their souls to mister La Bail.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
It is heavily implied that Grace is rejected by mister
La Bail for two reasons. One, because her motive for
marrying Alex was indeed love and not just money, Grace's
soul would be more difficult to attain. It is also
mentioned that both Charity and Fitch had no issue selling
their souls in exchange for materials, whereas Grace longed for
a family. Two, Helene draws comparison between herself and Alex,
both resisting their destiny by trying to leave the family,

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only for mister la Bail to reject their spouses, forcing
them to stay. Mister la Bail may have sensed that
Grace's innocence and purity would lure Alex away from continuing
the tradition and disown his family.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
How did you say she was related to Hugo Weaving niece? Okay,
I thought that's what it said. You said, but I
want to make sure because I was curious to get
a picture of him and then I saw Nie. I
want to make sure. Yeah, the niece. That's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
The MPAA requested they translate the Latin used during the
sacrificial ceremony so they could properly rate the film.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yeah, Seventeen different versions of Grace's wedding dress were created
by costume designer Avery Plus to show the progress of
Grace's night and how her clothes corresponded to her attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
They did a phenomenasic Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Absolutely, Samorrow Weaving had to be taught how to drive,
or at least how to look like she's driving.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
The goat that jumps out and scares Grace into falling
down the well was originally planned as a puppet, but
when they shot the first take of the puppet, they
realized that that was a bad idea. Thankfully, the goat
wranglers were so down.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Oh well, that's good. Yeah, the puppet probably looked silly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Yeah. The pepperbox revolver wielded by Emily has been the
version of the gun weapon in the North American edition
of the board game Clue since nineteen seventy two. It
was adopted by the European Cludo edition in nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
That's a nice touch.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Yeah. Eli's Levesque, who plays Charity in the film, sit
in the behind the scenes of the film that she
had no idea how to hold a spear gun, and
no one told her if she was doing it right
or not. Given that all the lunamas are supposed to
be airheads with no idea what they're doing. Not telling
her how to hold a spear gun was probably the
best move.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
I agree, because yeah, that's my favorite part after watching
it again was realizing that it makes perfect sense that
they're all so incompetent. Oh yeah, like it really is perfect, Yes,
so perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Alex has a heart shaped bloodstain right over his chest
where his heart is before he dies. In the film
Jennifer's Body from two thousand and nine, Adam Brody portrayed
a cult member in a band that killed Jennifer as
a sacrifice offering to Satan in exchange for wealth and fame.
About a decade later, the character he plays and Ready
or Not, has similar but less enthusiastic motives to renew
the original deal with his ancestors made with Satan for

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wealth and success to his family's board game company.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
That's an interesting connection.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Yeah. Within Levion Satanism, the term shem schim hntaurash is
used for during rituals as outlined in the Satanic Bible.
The term is essentially an equivalent of Hallelujah in the
sense that it has taken to mean haile satan when
using the context to corroborate with lebah or Leaveyan's Satanism's
objective a satirizing traditional religious practice.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
What's eat that all over again? No? One more time?

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Gonna say No, We're gonna have to say good night.
Grace originally dies in the earlier draft of the script
after being successfully sacrificed by Alex and his family, but
producers changed it to Grace surviving and her in laws,
including Alex, being killed after failing to complete the ritual
before dawn.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
That's a weird choice, yeah, I mean, they'd have to
do it in an interesting way, because otherwise that's just
a downer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
And finally, Helene tells Tony that when Alex was a child,
he once saw mister Labail sitting in his chair in
the family ceremony room. Grace sees him as well when
she's left as the only survivor after Labail's wrath. Ah yeah, okay,
So what are your final thoughts on twenty nineteen's Ready
or Not?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Ah? Man, I you know my I initially was gonna
say stream it or stream it, rent it, but every
time I watch it, I just go, God, damn, what
a good movie. A lot of fun. I think it's
an own it if you're a movie lover, it's worth
owning because it's it's such a fun ride, great performances. Tomorrow,
Weaving really gets to own. I mean she owns every

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single scene from being because she goes from being a
blushing bride to for real, I mean just for I
literally just finished watching it. She's literally grunting like a
caveman at the end. Oh you believe it. Yeah, she
does everything in between. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
No, it's so good. Yeah, it's gonna be a bye
for me as well. This is one of the I
would say, top horror films that came out of the
twenty tens. Like this is one that has stuck with me.
I've probably seen it. I've probably seen it like four times,
four or five times, and now at this point, it
just gets fun more and more. Like, it just gets
fun the more you watch it because you pick up

(01:25:44):
on little things. There's also just a lot of snarky
dialogue thrown in that has a lot of meaning to
it as you go through.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
And it came out of nowhere. That movie just, I
mean it just all of a sudden, it was like
and here's this little movie, and we were just like,
holy shit is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Yeah, it's a lot of fun. So we always like
get in the show with a couple of commendations. The
first one I have this week is nineteen ninety seven's
body Count Fuck You aka below Utopia, currently rented bele
on Prime and Fandango. The seemingly ideal like Simpson family
gathers for Thanksgiving, but when a pack of killer shows up,
their bickering takes a back seat.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
And I only say fuck you because that would have
totally been my pick. That's fair. I've been a big
booster of below Utopia for a very long time. It's
i considered a highly underrated thriller. Yeah, and also a
perfect change of pace as far as Thanksgiving movies and movies.
I mean, although Thanksgiving is a small part of it,
it's really just family. Yeah. But that's a really fun,

(01:26:37):
really underseen film. I'm so glad. I mean when I
was first watching it, you couldn't rent it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Couldn't get anywhere yah, and you had to own the
v And according to IMDb, it just says, you know,
buy it on Prime, like by the disc because it's
under I think Below utopias on Prime.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
It's on body Count. Yeah, yeah, which I think they
might have done that because Iced Tea was in it
to try and like get it to sell faster.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
It does make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Actually, no, totally because like I says, body Count, it's
just ice and What'samlano on the front. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Also, the second recommendation is going to be would you Rather?
From twenty twelve. I've recommended this on the show before,
but this is perfect as it is a dark game
Night at a at a house currently streamable on AMC Plus,
rentable on Prime and Fandango. Desperate to help her ailing brother,
a young woman unknowingly agrees to compete in a deadly
game of would you Rather? Hosted by a sadistic aristocrat
played by the great Jeffrey Combs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
And just mentioning Jeffrey Combs. By the way, we had
a clip when I talked about Combs a few weeks back.
It's one of our only tiktoks to reach like ten
thousand views. Shit, and everybody is talking about Jeffrey Combs.
And although they all the same question, which was, well,
if you played two characters, that mean you make twice
as much money, and I was like, well, yeah, because
he had to be there twice as much. Yeah, yes,
and like they'd be like, but I mean, did you

(01:27:44):
get paid extra for being the characters? Like, well he
had to work more. Yeah, so yes, like that's that's
how it works. But no, that would you rather? So
much fun? Such and such a great example of later
Jeffrey Comb's performance. Yeah, because I feel like he went
so heavy into voice work, you know, by the early
two thousands, you don't really see him as much.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I think like one of his like last major horror
films as far as like a Blockbuster style goes, would
be A House on Haunt Hill where he played the
crazy doctor. Yeah, which which was great think came back
for return if.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
A Yeah, no, no, it was great. But yeah, so it's
so nice to see him kind of return to form.
And would you rather? That's definitely when I would recommend
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
What's your recommendation, sir?

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
You know, Dave, when you stole my perfect one?

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
I decided I'm not gonna go obvious because you even
said I assumed you were going to pick these ones.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Well, I figured you pick the Hunt or your next.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Yeah, your next? Well to me, your next is just
like Millennial Below Utopia. Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong
to an extent. I mean it's a horror movie though
Below Utopia is a thriller, not really a horror movie.
So I went with the theme of the person you
love not being exactly what you think they are.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Oh, big Mama's House.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Two, Big Mama's House too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
A big MoMA like father like son.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Yes, uh no, So I picked. I picked a film
that I don't know if you've seen, but that I saw,
and it sincerely blew me away from twenty eighteen and
it's what keeps you alive. I've heard about it. Yeah,
you need to watch it, David. It's it's really really good.
The synopsis Majestic Mountains, a still Lake and Venomous Betrayal.

(01:29:18):
Engulf's a married couple attempting to celebrate their one year anniversary.
That movie. I caught it randomly on Netflix. It's not
on there anymore, unfortunately. It's on AMC Plus right now
as well as tub and you can rent it on Prime.
It's that you will your jaw will be on the
ground at the end. That's why it stayed with me

(01:29:38):
for a really long time. It's super super good. The
twists are great. The dichotomy of the married couple is
like nothing I had seen depicted in a movie in
a very, very long time. It's really worth your time.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
So, since this is a movie show, I do want
to point out one that I It's not necessarily a recommendation,
but what I wanted to tell you about because I
got it over the weekend at Hubant Music and Video.
First Born from nineteen eighty four, starring Corey Feldman, Terry
Garr and Peter Weller or Corey Haym Geez. Teenager must
protect his family when his mother's sinister new boyfriend begins

(01:30:14):
exerting his authority in their home, and Peter Weller is
the boyfriend. Obviously, of course I have not seen this,
but this looks awesome and I got the blue ray recently.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I saw it on cable, okay, because he was younger,
and yeah, he just like kind of moves into the house.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
It starts, Yeah, this is a three year four RoboCop.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
He's like, oh, he's like bullying everybody, but it gets psychotic.
That's a great film. I'd love to revisit that. You
should bring it over show once. My crazy things are done.
We should really do a Sunday. Oh, we have just
watched some movies or something.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
So do we have any emails this week?

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Good? See are maggotty with emails? We have three emails.
If you want to email us, By the way, you
can head to dooevenmovie dot com or email us at
do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. We
love to hear your suggestions, your thoughts, et cetera. This
first one from our good buddy Skunk, Oh awesome, and
I did. I did reply to this ahead of time

(01:31:06):
because the subject was Evolver question mark, question mark, question mark,
and then also some suggestions, So I did skim this
one because at first I thought it wasn't just for
the I mean, it's not just for the show. So
he said, hey, Enrique and double D, I just finished
listening to the wish Master episode. And uh, did you

(01:31:27):
did I hear you righte? Enrique? Did you say you
have an Evolver poster? Yes? The reason I opened it
was I sent him a picture of the other side
of the studio so we could see the Evolver poster.
And his reply was, ah, no way, that's so freaking cool.
And I didn't even like all I made sure was
it was lit so you can see like all the
lights and stuff like up against it because this room
is you know, it's a little full. Oh oh yeah,

(01:31:48):
you know. Let's build the studio your place then. But anyway,
so beyond that, man, if you do, that's rad as hell.
One of my all time favorite slocky schlocky slash slash
like a Sci Fi channel mashup of Arcade which also
has qaka John Delance in it and Chopping Mall. I
happen to have an Arcade poster my friend got me,
but to have an Evolver one to go with it
and my Nightmare five one I still need to frame,

(01:32:10):
would be sick.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Completely forgot about Arcade.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Oh ur Kid's fine, Arcade's fun. Yeah, that and the
brain scan shout out honestly got me thinking about some
films I'm sure you guys love or would love that
you haven't covered yet or if you have, I somehow
missed those episodes my bad. The aforementioned Evolver, Arcade and
Chopping Mall of course, but also Death Machine Virtuosity.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Do you love me some? Death Machine and Virtuosity.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Virtuosity is When I watched it on cable so many
times as a kid. I would love to revisit it. Yeah,
Ghost in the Machine Machine great, and they said surprise
that didn't come up during your final Destination episode.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Actually, yeah, gives some machines a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Man. I would love to hear you guys talk about
all of those movies. I seem to have a bit
of a fascination with sci fi horror, especially stuff with
virtual reality and robots. Probably explains my love for lawnmower, Man, Terminator, Matrix,
et cetera. I would we should definitely do Virtuosity at
some point. We could do all of those, but Virtuosity
is one that I have like a lot of childhood
nostalgia for Evolver would be fun, although most people like

(01:33:09):
what chopping mall would be would be a fun one. Yeah. Anyway,
I love hearing the pre movie talk before the show.
Getting these deep dives into your personal lives is what
made Welcome to Primetime more than just a podcast about
Freddy's nightmares. Anyway, can wax on about a TV anyone
can wax on about a TV show. You guys brought
heart to it. Thanks for keeping us entertained. Skunk awesome, Skunk,

(01:33:30):
Thank you skunk. That was a great email and I'm
glad I could blow your mind with my my I
have so many posters like Evolver, Yeah you do, and
most of them I'm actually getting ready to organize them
so I can store them properly because I do not
have enough walls. But yeah, I have a ton of those. Yeah.
So this next one is from my buddy Madon. He

(01:33:51):
is the director of sales at bobbletopia dot com who
sent us the awesome bobblehead of We Have Freddy and
of course the Brothers, which the right brothers one. They
actually it's like they didn't like a wholesale I'll say
they built that one. Yeah. If you want, if you
ever need a bobblehead, you head to bobbletopia dot com.
They also support the weekly Spooky podcast and I'm always thankful.

(01:34:11):
Hell yeah, so this one might be a little I
skimmed it real quick. This one. I'll do my best
off the top of my head. Hey guys, I was
listening to the episode on wish Master Great by the way,
and I was fascinated by some of the tricks of
the movie business. For example, bad Guys never Blink, which
adds to their villainous yep. Some actors scream for twenty
minutes to make their voices hoarse. Other actors drink protein

(01:34:31):
shakes to change their voices. During eating scenes, actors will
spit out the food after each scene. Ten to thirty
takes of eating a sandwich adds up. Anyway, I'm curious
about many of the other tricks Hollywood does that we
don't think about. I'd love to hear more of these,
Thank you, I go ahead, Well, I have one off
the top of my head, which is using water. So

(01:34:51):
this is a trick that once it was pointed out
to me, I was like, oh my god, I see
it everywhere. Yeah, and that is water, not as not
for rain, not for snow. But next time you're watching
a movie and there's a nighttime exterior of a parking lot,
you'll notice almost always, even though it's supposed to be
in like California or Nevada or the desert, it's gonna

(01:35:13):
be wet. Yeah, Because when you wet a black surface,
it reflects, and that allows light to reflect and it
gives the space more light basically so that the light
doesn't just disappear into the asphalt. So wetting asphalt is
a Hollywood trick I have heard about many, many times
that I don't think people talk about nearly enough. I
did watch one years ago, one like Camera Tips video

(01:35:37):
that said using water is a great trick. Yeah, but
that is a very common Hollywood trick.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Two that I've noticed since working on your sets that
I've seen in other movies are shower scenes will usually
hang a shower curtain on the back wall to make
it look like they are shooting inside of the shower.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Yeah, that's when you don't have the budget for, you know,
like to build a set.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
To build a set. And the other one is the
same thing essentially is if they have somebody in a
passenger seat, they usually have them in the back seat
and their shoot out the window.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
That's a Jimunorski trick. I learned that one on a
Jimunorski commentary track. Yeah, basically, you have your camera pointed
at somebody in the driver's seat and you're in the
passenger seat. But then when you have to flip around,
you know, you can't sit in the driver's seat, so
you Actually it works especially well in SUVs because they
have big windows, So then you sit in the back
seat and have the passenger on the passenger side in
the back seat so you could show the window going through.

(01:36:22):
We use that trick in a bunch of movies, Babysitter, Massacre,
Haunted House, a Story Row because it's so much faster
than having to rig something and then worry about your
camera hanging off of a car. That's a good one.
The trick with putting the shower curtain against the wall
for a shower seat, I actually learned that from the
commentary track on American NIGHTMA. That's how I first learned

(01:36:43):
that trick. Another trick. If actors need to cry and
they need their eyes to get all, you know, they
have to cry a lot, Putting Vic's vapo rub underneath
your eyelids will irritate your eyes and get you that
puffy look. The only negative is it stops working after
about an hour if you keep reapplying it eventual like
it just feels like I'm putting Vassilina. Because your eyes
get used to it, you turn into Mary Lee. Yeah,

(01:37:04):
I mean I used to. I used to keep a
jar when we were doing the horror movie stuff. I
would always keep a jar of vix vapel rub in
my pocket of my vest, and I when I pull
it out, I say, it's instant acting in a jar,
just when you need it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
The other one I've always loved because I mean, it's
so simple when you think about it, is driving. When
you're showing driving, you literally have somebody taking a light
and running it over their head over this side.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Oh yeah, moving, And there are a million ways you can. Yeah,
you can also put a light on an arm and
spin it. Another trick similar, but if you're in an
interior that's supposed to be like on a busy road,
like a diner or something, you can take a giant
reflector that's basically a mirror and slowly spin it so
that every so often light passes, as if it's like

(01:37:47):
cars passing and catching light. The first time I saw
that and understood how it was done was on Eddie Presley.
That's how they did in all their diner scenes. You'd
notice every now and then a little it makes light
would flicker by. So that one works really well well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Another one is Fred Oil, and Ray said in his
book basically that when it was coming to the sci
fi movies that he was doing, he would just scour
the sides of roads for like old radiators, old AC units.
Anything that he could spray, paint, dust off, or just
basically mount to a wall will give an impression to
a sci fi movie depending on what it looks basically.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Text, texture, tech, technology and texture. That's how you make
dystopian films, you know, if you have a bunch of
I mean famously, James Cameron used McDonald's container. Yeah it
was Burger containers back when they were styrofoam, and he'd
paint them and depending on what paint you use, it'll
also kind of melt them a little and make them
look really worn out and stuff. Lots of stuff can
be made out of literal garbage. Another one. I was

(01:38:43):
trying to think there because the problem is coming up
with all these off the top of my head, because
I have a massive It's one of the reasons I
get hired as a set producer so often is I
have a big toolkit of like little tricks that work
for small things, you know, so that you could be like,
oh man, how do we do this? I could be like, actually,
I've done it before, I know how. Like one time
I was working on a movie and the prop they

(01:39:04):
had these gas powered like bullet hits that were going
under your shirt that would shoot out, and they didn't work.
They just would not work. And they were like, oh
my god, what are we gonna do. We have to
shoot these like it was a zombie thing and they
really have to shoot these, like five more whatever. And
I went to it to one of the pas. I said,
go down to that gas station right there and buy
me three dozen eggs. So we went down the gas station,

(01:39:25):
got them, came back and literally I was just doing
this to the side while they were trying to fare
o with To do it's a thing called blowing an egg.
You poke a big hole on the bottom and a
little hole on the top, and you and all the
egg stuff comes out. Then you put a piece of
tape or latex over the little hole, fill the big
hole with blood tape that too, and you throw it
at the actors as hard as you can, and you

(01:39:45):
cut right when it explodes and it looks like a
gun hit. That's a trick. I've used a ton and
it works really well for those parts most of the time.
I mean you're gonna have to try several times.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Well, I mean, it's the same thing with reversing a shot.
Like if you have a knife going into somebody and
you want to get the blade going in, you do the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Well, if you want to have something unsafe, like you
want the blade to be going right to their face,
and you do it in reverse. Yeah. Reverse motion is
a great way to do things safely. Yeah, we've done
that with Like, Like, if you wanted to have like
something that's very heavy and it has weight, and you
wanted to be going right to someone's head, but you
want to stop before you see the impact, pull it away, Yeah,
really quick, and then it'll come right at them. The
trick is to not use too much of it, or

(01:40:22):
you'll start to notice the inertia doesn't make sense anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Water works for gasoline. That's another good one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Yeah, water is a great replacement for gasoline. It's also
vodka works great as vodka.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
In movies, Tea as great as whiskey.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Tea works great unless you shake it. Then you'll see
the bubbles and that always gives away. I can always
see in movies. I'll be like that. Whiskey is definitely tea.
And to save time and money, you can just get
the tea packet of the little like tea drink mixes.
You know that you're supposed to pour in a bottle
of water. You know one of those will make a
whole whiskey bottle look like it's full of whisky.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
What's the one you told me about the difference of bloods,
because there's a thicker blood that you can do with
the corn syrup one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Oh well, well, there are a few things with blood.
If you have blood that's too thick, the fastest way
to thin it out if it's not getting in people's
mouth is to add dove soap because it will thin
it like really well, but it'll stay viscous and sticky
so that you can pump it through a tube because
when you water it down it loses a lot of
its look. It does. But the other thing is mixing

(01:41:19):
soap into fake blood is a great way to help
clean up later because it'll make the blood clean up
way better when they're soap in it. So usually on
a set, if you're mixing your own blood, there'll be
a big thing of blood and then there'll be a
small bottle that'll say mouth on it, and that's the
one that doesn't have anything toxic. Because if you mix
your own fake blood. Also, you'll have stuff like photo
flow in it, which will make you vomit and have

(01:41:40):
diarrhea at the same time if you consume enough of it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
So I would also say with that, if you have
a blood canon and or a blood fire extinguisher, you
cannot test it and then use it again.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
No, it'll run out of air. Also, if you take
a blood cannon, which is just a water fire extinguisher,
and you put it at the full one hundred psi
it's meant to be stored at, the blood will sprace
so fast that it won't photograph. Yeah. I learned that
the hard way. We were filming and I hit it
and literally you don't see any blood in the air.
You just see the wall become read instantly, so more
like thirty psi. But you can also do other things

(01:42:12):
like add a tube to it to kind of weaken
the power and the YadA YadA yadah. But you always
have a bike pump handy if you're doing blood effects.
I'm trying to think if there anything that isn't special
effects related that really can make a difference on a set.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
I mean, as you point on the show, many times
they cheat a lot of places as locations. So if
you can find a location that looks like a location,
you can fake it pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean the number one thing you
want to do on any movie is avoid what are
called company moves. Yeah, and that's where the entire production
has to go somewhere else, because that means packing things up.
Everybody's driving separately. You run the risk of like there
could be a car accident and now you're losing hours,
And especially in a really low budget movie, a company
move can wreck your day. So when possible, even if

(01:42:54):
you're filming at one house, you can film in every
single room in the house and then use establishing shots
of different places and make one house into sometimes five
or six houses if you have enough rooms. Those are
the little things. I'm sure I could think of more,
but those are just off the top of my head.
Those are good, They're not bad. So we got one
more right, and then we'll wrap this up. This is

(01:43:15):
from our buddy Maurice, who we just saw awesome town. Yes,
he says, I felt bad that you had no emails
last week. Now you have one. You're welcome. Talk to
you later. On a more serious note. Great episode last
week Karate Kid is one of my all time favorites,
and with Gladiator getting a mention, it dawned on me
that you should talk about that sometime.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
I would love to Gladiator is. I talked about it
last week on the show. Recent discovery from the same
guy that shot Karate Kids shot Gladiator nineteen ninety two
boxing movie that Keuep be Getting Junior and James Marshall
really really good flick and I would have seen it.
You would love to say you haven't. We'll definitely talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
He says. It's an underrated movie that has gone largely forgotten,
and I think that's a crime. People who don't know
that of that movie need to be arrested out. Okay,
maybe that's a bit harsh harsh, but it could benefit
from a Blu Ray or Fork release.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
That absolutely could. It only has a DVD release so far,
so I got it on digital. You can get HDX but.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Yeah, yeah, well we'll check. I'll definitely have to check
that out.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
So with all of that being said, if you want
to email us again, it's at do you even movie
Pod at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Would you like to know what we are wrapping up
Listener Request Month with.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Make it quick so we can go see that weird
Australian movie.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
That's fair. So we are doing probably one of our
most recommended uh since the since the start of the show,
because people know who know us know we love this movie.
We're talking about nineteen ninety four's Surviving the Game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
To close out Listener Request Month.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
You talk about a friggin' movie I love.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
And just recently got a Blu ray release last year.
That's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
I love that movie so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Much, rentable on Prime and Fandango. We will talk all
about it next week. If you have not seen Surviving
the Game, if there is an episode that we want
you to watch the movie before you listen to it,
it is this one.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
Yeah yeah, I mean treat many memorable moments, So treat you.
John cy McGinley being a badass as always, Drugger, Oh
my god, No, it's just it's a it's a character
actor's dream. And then iced Tea is the ic sing
yeah on the cake. So with that all being said,
my friends, make sure you sign a prenup and we
will see you all next week. With that, with Surviving
the Game, thank you for watching make sure you subscribe

(01:45:13):
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make sure you subscribe to my YouTube channel. Leave a comment.
We love to hear from you, but until next time,
I guess we'll see you next game night or hide
and seek, next height and see you know what. I'll
give you that one, but just this one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Here, ten second, head Star, I'm just gonna run.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Okay, okay, ten

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