90 Day Fiancé-Happily Ever After? 0911 "Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner"

Wherein Elizabeth and Loren meet up to discuss their differences post puppy party. Kara and Guillermo make a final decision on their relationship. Strong winds and meddling parents disrupt Julia and Brandon's nuptials. Jasmine comes clean to Gino about a big upcoming life change.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Sweetie.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey everyone, I'm wa and I'm Chris, and welcome the
Dokey Sweeties.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
We're too, longtime friends who discuss the riveting and sometimes
trashy world reality TV and docky series.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, but through our own lens, which sometimes has a
cat eye on one eye and sometimes has some weird
geographic eyeliner around the other, but at the end of
the day, hopefully mildly sweet, like taking it all off,
honeywayn to bed. Hi.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hello, So today we're talking ninety day fiance happily. Ever
after season nine, episode eleven, nobody puts a baby in
a corner?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
And who's that baby? Is that Julia? Is that the
baby that's being put in the corner? I mean, Julia
is putting her own baby in the corner by saying
she might not have one.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, but they are also putting her in a corner
by forcing her to make a decision right now in
front of everybody, whether or not she's going.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
To do it or not, which is like crazy, Yeah,
I agree with you, but you know, who also put
baby in a corner the producers because they didn't have
Tiger Lilly and adnan On who just had a baby.
They literally put their baby in a corner.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I was actually grateful that we didn't have them. I
was like, it's like, oh, thank God, no more. I mean,
and I just like give us a break.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know, you didn't have Darky, So it was kind
of like, yeah, it was kind of like the not
having two seasoned ladies with winy voices. Wine. Yeah, and
they have they both have like alpha male kind of
like I mean, that's not you know that they both

(01:44):
kind of have like men that would call themselves masculine men.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, that would call themselves alpha males. Yeah, all right,
except for Brandon. Let's let's start with Julian Brandon. Because Brandon,
it really does he I don't know if his face
is just so much like his mother's that I just
can't get over it, or there's just something about it
that I'm like, he is so beta to me that
it's I'm like, how can anybody want to be in

(02:09):
a relationship with him? No shade, just like my experience
and my feelings. So Ron and Brandon, they're setting up
the beach wedding and Brandon is getting frustrated and he's
just just like, let a fly away, Just let it
fly away. I don't care, just let it fly away.
And it's just like, no, Brandon, try to figure it out,
try to make it work.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
This is your only job that you had to do.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
You didn't have to give a dress, you didn't have
to put on makeup, you didn't have to do much
of anything. All you had to do was just go
out there and put them flowers down. And then we've
got Igor who's trying to help, and a fluozy finds
her way over to Egor to help, and we're just like, ma'am,
you see those camera crew, and you see that they're
filming some silly high jinks scene where there's gonna be
some silly music of how they're trying to make this.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Thing happen, and it's not happening.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
And here you come over here trying to be like
can I help you? And then he's like Russian, Russian,
and she's like well, and I was just like, yeah,
there's a little Elise in us.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
All. You know what I'm saying. Some people really will
like do what it takes just get on that camera's
you know, good side, which is in front of it.
So basically, yeah, like the wind is winding, you know,
when we've been talking about how that could be problems,
but don't worry. You know, that's whatever. We go back indoors, honey,
to the woman's work, to the to the bridal suite,

(03:26):
you know, and this is what This is the all
of the stuff that's happening that you know, we're familiar with,
especially if you watched Love Is Blind. You know, Julia
is getting ready and we got a great shot. And
by we, I mean yours truly, Chris, because for some
reason I am fascinated with this kind of stuff of
like what music, sorry, what products she's using for her

(03:47):
bridal beat face? And I'm going to go over them
with you. It's a lot of Charlotte Tillbury products, from
the powder to the setting spray, a lot of real
technique brushes, the pink ones, the the black ones probably
are either like Sigma or Morphy or something like that,

(04:08):
or you know, or Makeup Forever, maybe Mac, but I
didn't look like Mac brushes. I'll tell you that there's
an Anastasia palette. I don't own this palette, but it's
a very kind of shimmery nudes and browns and it's
been dived in before. So whoever's doing this makeup this
is like they're tried and true palette. So and it

(04:30):
looks like a palette that like I'm going to go
out and just put out a limb that was probably
purchased in like twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Oh no, okay, anyway, so what that's irresponsible of that
makeup to person to make up the person.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I know you couldn't even say it. You were like, no, yo, you.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Could have a makeup ballot in twenty and seventeen, Jermys.
I mean, I often wonder how makeup artists keep the
palettes clean. Like in my mind, if I were to
hire somebody to do my makeup.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Here's my makeup, here are my brushes. Now you take your.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Talent to hand and use my makeup and use my
brushes to put it on my face, like I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know. I wonder because you can spray alcohol
water onto things and then it obviously dries and the
alcohol sanitizes, and you know these things are powdered their talk.
You can do that, so I don't you know what
there's something like that you can do. But I mean,
at the same time, none of us, and I mean
none of us on God's green Earth unless you really

(05:32):
have like a god bless like a team to do it.
Are probably taking care of our makeup and makeup brushes
and clining them to the to the to the level
in which would be nice Like I would I would
have to clean my makeup brushes every time I use them,
and do I No, I don't. I don't claim every day.
It's like I have fifteen million makeup brushes, and makeup

(05:52):
is only one part of my day, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Like I do it once a month. I've been doing
it once a month. I've been good about it. I'm
really proud of myself.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Like I think the answer though, like is it like
like sheets once a week at least? Yeah? I know,
and I can't. I he'p right, can't do it. Uh.
So Betty comes over and she's like, huh, Betty, I
have alcohol, and I'm just like, you know what good
for you, Betty?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And so she it's it. They'remosas, and so Julia tastes
a drink of it. And she's like, when's orange juice? No,
just all champagne. And I was like, Julie, that is
what a mimosa is. A mimosa is champagne with a
drizzle of juice, just like a doll up a dollop
of nectar, like talp a daisy.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now, I normally your first class mamamosa does does have
does have more orange juice. And that one that the
shade of this poor to me was indicative of it.
I'll just be honest. It's what I pour myself when
I'm at a bottomless or boozy brunch with my friends
and I know that I have nowhere to go and

(06:57):
I am going to put on a show and I
want to get fucked up. And that's when I was like,
so the first one, I'll pour normal, and then that's
what I'll pour myself and be like ha ha, just
because I really want the champagne.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh yeah, I don't know that I've ever quote unquote
poored normal. I do put like, okay, I'll put like
one quarter juice and then three quarters campaign. But also
it's it's when I yes, I agree, It's when I
know I have nothing to do, but it's also because
when I know I have plenty of til and all
because let me tell you nothing, nothing makes me fall

(07:28):
asleep in the middle of the day more than a
boozy brunch and then waking up with a slight headache.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And it's very annoying. So as long as I have
my electrolytes and my tail and all or my everprofin
good to go.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
So uh that we cut back to the dads and
uh bru Igor says in English, I want be to
be good to Julia. I want Julia to be happy.
And I feel like that's the best that he can say.
But what he really means is like, Brandon, you've been
fucking up and Julia is not happy.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm to tell you right now in your language, I
would like for Julia to be happy.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
You see me, I'm bigger than you.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I'm imposing I could beat you and your data be
good to.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Julia, which is not I don't think he's good to Julia.
I feel like there's nothing more kind of intimidating than
being able to handle hot sauce. Like I feel like
that was low key, kind of like a power move
that he did, being like, oh, if you think you're
just fucking with some Russian guy that doesn't know how
to speak your language. On your soil, I'll be able

(08:34):
to drink acid. Just just that's a low key what
I can do on a daily basis, So just don't
fuck with me. At one point, Julia had messed up
Alice in Winner Lene and Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz,
which I found interesting because they both have to deal
with little girls lost, and all they want to do
is get back to a place they didn't enjoy in

(08:55):
the first place. If you think about it, So think
about it is what I'm asking you to do, So
think about it. And I and then so when she
got it confused, I was like, oh, yeah, well that
makes it easy to confuse it or whatever. And it's like,
you know, and both girls are kind of dress Marmie
or kind of dressed like Home on the Prairie esque,
you know, like I listen, Alice is supposed to think

(09:16):
happened in France or whatever, but like you know, she
has that white apron and that like I know, you
don't think about it, but it's true. Also, water Land's
a fucking trip. I rarely always loved Alice in Wanderland
because I liked the flowers so much, Like I'd never
that tea party can like go to hell. I don't
give a shit about that tea party. But my god,
the flower scene and Alice in Wonderland is like top tier.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Is the walrus and the two like Tubby Dus twins
Alison want to Land too, and they are okay.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
And I think besides the flowers, I think obviously the
caterpillar is everything? Mm hmm yeah, or the cat? Is
there a cat? There's so many fun things. Yeah, you
think about it, I could see why.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But also are the is this these stories both written
by men?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Like it's just like Lewis Carroll, c C. S Lewis
or is it Lewis Carrol? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's a lot of a lot of acronyms, so it
could have been a woman, you know. Whenever I see
like not acronyms, whenever I see initials, I think it
could be a woman. Because women could not write, they
had to have a nom de plume. So we we
then also find out that the Russian tradition for weddings
is different than the American traditions.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Because Betty's like.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, blah blah blah, center Western Idea, American blah blah blah,
and Julie's like, no, no, no, actually in Russian, you
know you we uh we walk we both parents walk
both of them down, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
And he's like, oh, good to know. I'm like, yeah, Betty.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So Julia's feeling pretty optimistic about where they are right
now because she's like, we both just came back from
therapy and we both have done the things that we
said we were going to do when we were in
therapy and h Then Julia's mother gets there, and Betty's
so excited to present Julia to her own mother's It
was weird, did you not fine?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Like Betty?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Betty is imposing, she does too much, She's over herself.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
She's like she's like happy to be the third wheel,
like and it's interesting because it makes me always feel
so horrible to be the third wheel or to be
like feeling like there's one two and I'm out. Like
she is the opposite of someone who feels awkward when
she is not needed or not wanted or not the
important one or it's yeah and I she like runs

(11:28):
into that fire. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
So we have a moment where Julia's mother provides ear
rings that she wore to her wedding and she got
from her mother, which is Julia's grandmother. And so we
had a really sweet moment between two mothers, I mean
mother and a daughter, and Betty like.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm right here, but forget me, mom me, I'm also important.
I like those earrings. Yeah, just like in the sauce,
just in there.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And I will say that, yeah, she's had her feel
I will say though, that I do like Betty's hair,
and this she's doing a different style in Florida, Like
her Florida style hair is like her with a headband
and it takes the hair from the front of her
forehead and puts it to the back.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I enjoyed a little bit, a little little shake up.
Any change is good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
So they get onto the beach and it's the wind
is a blowing, but there is no rain, and Betty
is I bet she's pretty sad that there's no rain.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think she wanted there to be rained so she
could say I told you so. Hmmm. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
So then they get married and Brandon says something in
Russian and he gets mad at the way that the
m and the inn are said together in Russian like
to Julia as though, like she needs to just go
and change the language so that he can say it properly.
And then it's a happy time. So then they go
to eat afterwards, and Julia's mother, trying to make some

(12:55):
connection with Betty, is like, oh, there's a plate of
lobster linguini in front of me, and she's.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Like, Betty showed me how to eat it.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And Betty's like just eat it with your hands, like yeah,
that's the best way to eat it.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
And then Mother's like, no, no, I won't. I cannot
do that. Sorry. Yeah, She's like that's how US Italians
eat it. That's what you know. Yes, Europeans Italians. We're
all Europeans here, you know. We're like, I mean no, yeah,
it's interesting she did say it. Times was like, oh
you just you know, you don't read Italian and nothing.
I feel like any Italian who's watching this is like,
we don't claim you. You have nothing to do with us. Yeah.

(13:29):
I it's also funny to side note they're dressed. Both
both women's dresses were so the exact same kind of
like flowy floral, that itchy kind of polyester fabric you
know it, well, it's like it's a kind of sheer
style fabric you see a lot of and it itches,

(13:52):
but there's multiple layers of it so that there is
a lightness to them. That so you don't notice the
itchiness unless you are truly out trying to like up
close feel the grains of fiber between your fingers, and
you're like, oh, this is anyway, this is uh, I'm
move on, Okay, don't worry about it. So, yeah, at
this dinner, it goes brom bad to worse. It goes

(14:14):
from messy lobster to cracking bones, you know, to the
conversation that we knew they were going to have because
one thing that Brandon and Julia's producers told him to
do is foreshadow every moment of contention, like you know,
like definitely foreshadow Betty being obnoxious about Julia's wedding choices

(14:35):
before they even get to Miami, like you know, like
so in this case, they foreshadowed that Brandon is just
needs to support her. That all she's asking, as she
did already ask in that poork, is like for him
to support her. So here we are, and we're in
the perfect storm and the perfect storm is this restaurant
with both parents on the sides, you know, and they

(14:58):
start talking about children, and Julia is doing to me
the thing where she does not want to get into
the nitty gritty details, and so she's trying to be like, yeah,
they said this, this, they said this. But what she's
not being is one hundred percent truthful and instead giving
information she doesn't need to give that Brandon can then

(15:21):
pick apart in front of them and then be like,
that's not what the doctor said. Actually that's not what happened.
When you know, I'm gonna say, it's not her fault.
But this is just a I feel like a note
for us all, a note for us all that you
don't need to give any information you'd want to write,
because unfortunately, as you share with people, it's the good
deed you think you're doing, but people use it against you.

(15:43):
They they use the information you are giving that is
too many details to in the details make judgments against
whether they think that's a good idea when they are
not even prebby should be prebby, should be privy to
that and for information, And therefore you are willingly giving
away you know what I'm talking about Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I think that you open yourself forself up to dissection
when you provide too much information. And I think Brandon
should not have said what the outcome was.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
She says.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
What she reiterates is what she said in her confessionals
is we are doing everything we can.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
We're on the brink of divorce. We went to therapy,
now we're doing all the thing. Went to the doctor,
we did this.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And Betty's like, oh, you guys went to the doctor,
and she says, yes, And that's all it needs to
be is yes, we went and we got some information
and we need to do some thinking and some more talking,
but yes we did. Brandon chooses to use this moment
to be his parents only child and to like get
up under his mother's teets and.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Be like, yeah, we went and the doctor said. And
Julia's like Brandan.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Stop and so she then tries to take control of
the narrative and then does too much and it now spirals,
and then Brandon is again. Instead of him defending his
wife and being on her side, he chooses to look
at his parents.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Like, hug me. She doesn't want to have kids like
he wants them to.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
In that moment do the thing that they've been doing
since they've been married is to side with him, and
I don't understand. It's like, it's the definition of insanity
to me, He's being insane.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
That he can't you're gonna say something. I just don't
know how she could stand it, you know, like I
don't know how she has stand in it, stood it
because this has probably happened so many times and she
just has been alone with him, and even in this moment,
they're on TV. And so I think either that or
the fact that her family's there and again her father
could eat his father. Ron does say, like you guys,

(17:43):
you guys, she has a body and she has a choice. Yes,
they say that, They say that politically, and so I'm
gonna say that right now. It's her body. It is
her choice, as you guys know. So one second thing
is Betty shut up. He does tell Betty to shut up,
and Betty is talking, but not as much as Brandon,
you know, Brandon like. So basically what is happening is,

(18:06):
as we know, she has to undergo extra surgery to
like cleaning out certain things as going around anesthesia to
see if there's a possibility to then have kids, but
at the same time that scares her or whatever. Now,
what is I think a little bit of an annoying
thing is that some people feel like going on under
anesthesia is not a big thing because it happens a

(18:29):
lot in America and maybe they've done it or you know,
and so to them it's an experience that doesn't seem
like a big deal. But to other people it does,
and it feels like, you know, you know, what's kind
of like that childbirth, you know, childbirth in itself. And
I'm just saying this as someone who hasn't given birth
to any children. Certainly seems like it's a fucking wild

(18:53):
shit show ride that isn't just one big ass surgery
and pain thing, but nine months of this whole thing.
So I'm just saying it's interesting for someone, even who
has gone through it, to judge someone to not be
one hundo percent willing to undergo that ride. Yes, it's
so interesting like that.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It feels like all women who had kids in like
the seventies and the eighties and the nineties act like
giving child giving birth was nothing.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And then all of my friends have like been very
real deal about it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm like how come the generations before us didn't tell well,
they had less medicine and less like women doctors, and
just less support in general.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Why.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I think there's a certain amount of like, I went
through it and I suffered through it, so you have
to do it too, where they just don't give us
the tea. And it's like, now that I have friends
who are having kids or you know, like slightly older cousins,
they're like, this should ain't this shit is ain't easy.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Sort of birden. Now, some women do have a.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Relatively you know, easy whatever, but the ones who don't,
we don't them yelling as much.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
We don't hear their stories as much to know.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
And it's funny because I, yeah, I had to be
the person to be like wow, wow, Julia doesn't Julia
doesn't want to go under anesthesia, and all I want
to do is be under anesthesia. Julia is scared about
having kids and maybe the nine months leading up to it,
and I'm like, I would love to feel that, Like
I would love to see what that's like, and then
if it's terrible, be like, Yep, you were right. I

(20:23):
shouldn't have done it. But there's a part of me,
there's a huge part of me that's just like, no,
I want to.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I want to. I want to feel it. I want
to feel a baby kick, I want to feel I
want it all.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But yeah, so it's just it's very interesting that Ron
actually did the thing he's supposed to do and step
up and be like no. Betty is like, you're the
clock is ticking, You're only getting older, You're gonna die soon,
so you need to have a kid now. And Brandon
is again trying to pull his mother into being on
his side about it's only a simple procedure and she's like, Brandon,
and he needs you to be on my side. He's like,

(20:53):
I am, I'll literally be next to you when it's happening.
She's like, no, I you don't actually have to go
through this. He's like no, but I'll be there. She's like, okay,
but you don't have to do it. And he's like no,
but I'll be there. And she's like it's not the
same as doing it, Like he just doesn't get it,
and it's so fucking weird.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, so weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that I
think that you know, I as we know. This is
all at the point, so moving on, because they, you know,
announced their pregnancies. And I'm sorry, this whole conversation is
like neither here nor there, That's what I'm saying. It

(21:32):
is there in Miami, but okay, I think or some
part of Florida. So must move on to Gino and Jasmine.
Are you done with them? Or you anything else to
say about them? No? No, we're doin is listen, honey.
He's in the car and he's upset, and Jasmine talked
to him and through an email and said that they

(21:52):
need to get together because she has something to say
that it's urgent. And instead of like meeting up at
that fun, weird like Mexican bar that like you know,
oh they set the bar up with or wouldn't they,
she made him go to Matt's house and he said yes.
Now all of this is like, why are you saying
yes to that? Who couldn't you if that? Because it

(22:13):
is weird? It is weird. I would I mean I
personally after all this, after you know, would be like, oh, hey,
could you meet me anywhere else? Just wondering if you
could meet I mean, oh, you want me to meet
what Matt's house? You wanting to meet you in his
bedroom while you're sitting on his cock. I mean, well,
do you I don't quite know where you want me
to meet you, but it's probably not going to be
at that person's house. But you know does well he does, Yeah,

(22:37):
he does, and then he complains about it.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So I don't know if I mean, in my mind,
she doesn't have a car, I mean she'd have the
uber And I don't know what his heart in Michigan
to get these things, like, I don't know, so whoever
it is that he goes over there and he immediately
because he hates Matt so much, is like this place
is a dump. My house is better. And I was like,
let's see the kitchens. Is there a white refrigerator in

(23:01):
Matt's kitchen? I need to know that before we could decide, well,
whose house is better? But we know Gno's irrational, Like
he's irrational when it comes to Matt, Like Matt is
categorically way better looking than Geno. Gino's like he's so ugly.
I'm like, do you know you are ugly?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
You look like you.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Need like so much Vanny cream on that face just
to undo the damage you've done of just being dry
your entire life, Like I feel like I watched it
and just put on copious amounts of lotion on my
whole body because I was like, I too have skipped
lotion at times, and I'm like, I can't. If Gino's
face was on the horizon for me, I would slather

(23:39):
my body in lotion. Now they get to Matt's house
and it's been over a month since they've since they've spoken,
So it's been over a month at least since the
Natalie drama. Maybe their timeline is so funky. I wish
they would just tell me how long it's been since
she's been kicked out of the house, because it feels
like the way that they're talking is that there was

(24:01):
there was still some kind of chance of them getting
back together.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, you're right, but they don't want to be because
they're because they're big, messy, like because she's been pregnant
for a hot ass menut. And I think and they
didn't tell us, like I think, you know, I think
that when she's yelling at Natalie, she's pregnant and all
that stuff. Oh, like she had caught Coco when he,
you know, try to get her to move with him.

(24:31):
Coco and heat when she tried to get her to
move with him, she ordered hot cocoa with him when
he oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay, great,
get it. What you're doing with the dog? Yeah yeah
yeah okay. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
So Gino says that Jasmine was is obviously jealous of
Natalie because of the way she attacked her, and if
she attacked her, and she's so jealous and there obviously
must be feelings, and so then Gino says that he
felt lonely after Natalie left and that he was thinking
that him and Giasma could have possibly got back together,
and but she would have had to completely apologize for

(25:07):
cheating before the therapy.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
So we cut to her.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
And she's wearing a baggy outfit and she's like, you know,
I was gonna make one choice, and then all of
that completely shattered after I found out this news that
I have to tell Gino right now. So she's crying
and she's like, I know that he's gonna believe that
I did this on purpose just to hurt him, or
she's gonna he's gonna believe the worst of me.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But that's not it.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
And so he gets to her house and she opens
the door and he just walks in.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Oh uh, well, excuse me, you walk on the com in.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
So and he like tries to smile at the producers
or smile at somebody, and like he gets so awkward
and walking in, it's like, do you know you've been
around these cameras for at least four years now, why
it's still weird for you? Like he stares directly at
a producer or someone like a camera the camera person
when he walks in, and like wants to smile but

(26:08):
then doesn't and is like holding his face back. And
so then he gets and he sits down and he
thinks that, you know, because he sees that all of
her stuff is packed up, that she's finally gonna move
and get her own place to prove to him that
she wants to get back together, or and I'm just
like this it felt like it was all a test,

(26:29):
like him kicking her out of the house and her
actually leaving the house when she legally doesn't have to,
and him expecting her to make different choices. And so
then he gets with Natalie in order to like get
back at her, like show he's still got it or
some shit, when he's not really ready to be dating
anybody because he hasn't fully even he isn't even really

(26:50):
considered divorcing her because he doesn't want to give her
any money. So it's just like such a weird like
space to be in where I'm just like you are
the just the Dana says, like he's the constructor of
his own disaster, Like he creates this because he doesn't
want to be here nor there. He wants to kind
of just like hover in the middle until I guess

(27:11):
someone else makes the decision or a decision is made
for him. And that's what ends up happening here that
she ends up getting pregnant and tells him she's pregnant.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
She's like, so this is the end of.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Our relationship, and he's like, I don't want to know
your personal business. And I'm like, this is why you're
in the shit you're in, man, because you cannot just
say what you actually feel like. Don't be Tiffany and
hunt for love in this moment where you just want
to act like you're so cool then make the other
person feel like nothing, like this is this is your
real life, this is your real wife, and for you

(27:42):
to just sit back and be like and that was
that the thing you wanted to tell me. I need
to know your personal business, Like full you just finished
telling people that you thought you guys were gonna get
back together eventually.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
You're absolutely right. They had such an interesting com This
was after they talked about what was happening with him,
which of course Natalie fucking pieced out, and it was because,
of course what had happened. And he's like, well, you know,
after you attacked her at my family's event, and she's like,
you mean my family's event and then he's like yeah,

(28:18):
and then you know, he's like, you just, you know,
fucking went a what off of her? Now she did?
And they go back and at her. She's like, no,
I didn't touch her, and then they should go back.
She's like, well, yeah, you like literally called her a hooker. Okay,
I take responsibility for that, but you have to take
responsibility for the fact that the reason why you're not
with her is actually not because of me, is because
you are such a little wimpy week unable to handle

(28:44):
a situation. Make sure a situation doesn't get that bad,
and be truthful to someone that you supposedly are interested
in to make them feel comfortable. None of that can
ever happen for you. And all you do is like
not like you hop scotch around waiting to see if
you can land in a square for a second. That

(29:06):
like someone's not going to like hold your feet to
the fire. But like the truth of the matter is
like after a while, you they're every fucking square is lava,
you know what I'm saying, and you're just hopping.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
She's like yeah, He's like, you scared the shit out
of her. And again, I know Natalie's at home like
that bait.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
She had just scared of shit.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Out of me.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
You stopped telling these people I'm scared of Jasman because.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm fucking not and I'll fight her right now, like
uh she Jeff is like, no, it's because you brought
her into a situation and you didn't tell her the truth.
You weren't completely honest with her, you you know, and
and so now you're trying to blame me for it.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
And he's just like, well y, yeah, She's like okay, Man.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Okay, And and then she's like then she tells him.
Then he has that that pretends stoic reaction where then
he says, don't tell me your personal business, like is
so fucking stupid. And she he leaves and she's like,
I know that he's going to suffer on his own
and that this is really upsetting to him and that

(30:05):
he's blah blah blah blah, and and all I can
think of is like, g you know, you could have
gotten her pregnant too if you would have just fucked her,
So like, this is all starting because you could not
have sex with her because of the contentious relationship you had,
and then at some point you made us believe, at
least me, that the reason why you're not having sex

(30:28):
with her is to punish her, not because of your ed,
but because you didn't want her to think that everything
was okay.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So you didn't want to have sex with her, but also
wasn't paying for things to take care of her.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, so it's just like it is just very much him.
Then he sits there and cries about how she's a
liar and she used him and that you know it
was never real, and I was like, I did, okay,
gin know if that's what you need to believe, which
is so delusional, And I hope that that level of

(31:01):
delusion ever touches me and I'm like grateful for being
in therapies who like can knock these ideas off of people,
so someone could tell me, no, that's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like we all need it. We all need a therapist
or somebody.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
In our life who's neutral, who can be like no,
gin no, no, you knew that you did da da,
and you brought somebody into this situation. Especially you knew
before getting there that Jasmine was coming. It wasn't a surprise,
so you could have not taken Natalie to that situation
and just made plans to meet with Michelle and Danea

(31:35):
the next day.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I agree with you. I sometimes wonder though, like if
some people who do have therapists just have yes, yes
men therapists. You know what I'm saying, if they never
get better, Like your therapist is a yes men therapist,
just saying whatever that person thinks, he is going to
keep you going. But do you know, I don't know
if you know has gotten to anyone yes or no.
But basically he also says when she said that she's pregnant,

(32:00):
he was just also like, well, I'm not surprised. Guess
what color me not surprised? No shock here, flat face here.
Guess I could have put money on it. Yeah, no,
you are by blow, you're pregnant by him. You're like, okay, yeah, no,
you're surprised. You know, you're surprised because he is. He

(32:22):
goes and cries later in the car, yeah or maybe
maybe not the car or yeah, it's in the car,
and then confessional when he's just like, I thought she
you can do it because you do better. Do you know?
I thought she loved me. She's gas mean, it's a liar.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
And I'm just like that those two things have not
that she could still love you and have a baby
on somebody else because that person's actually flattering her. That's
that's what it is, you know. That's how babies are made,
not just on love. It's actual quaitus.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
When did you stop loving her? Ga? Because it felt
like it was before or last resort. So it's interesting
that he had said that, like, I feel like you
have to. I think that at some point you fuck
the person that you love. That especially that person that
you love is constantly throwing themselves at you. I'm just saying, yeah,

(33:15):
god crazy, Okay, fuck the one you love. Sorry, Libby
and Andre, we can like start the trifecta.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
You know as what, but I messed up the notes
in this one, so it's going to be a little
weird because I didn't realize that that Lauren and Andrea
and Yari and Jovo were in different thingies.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
So I'll call out when I messed it up.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So oh yeah, So Liby and Andrea are at the
beach and she's like, take your shoes off? Who were
sucks and shoes at the beach? And I was like,
you know what, he deserves that.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I feel like anything weird and cutting.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
She might say to him that feels a little extra aggressive,
like I'm okay with it because he lied to her
about losing seventy five thousand dollars and I will never
get over that. And I just think it's so interesting
that she can with such full full chest support him
when he's done that to her.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I feel like it is it is such a like
breach for me. So anyways, he's like, live, let's get
back to.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
The reason that we're hearing is because fucking Alexi called
Lauren fat And I'm like what And Libby's like, no, no,
it's because you did something to me. Why do you
keep talking about Alexi and Lauren, Like he just really
wants to double down on the fact that like Lexi

(34:41):
and Lauren are the enemy here, not him.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, he's like to fluck de fluc deflutch you like
to do. Like her earrings. She had these like pink
Fucia tassel earrings. It looked like the kids, you know,
like in fancy hotels and rooms when you have to
tie back curtains and they have Yeah, they're like, I
knew what tassel, but the first time, you know, no,

(35:07):
just just confirming that, yes, that is the time. I
mean Chris. Yeah. She wears them in the Becheen and
also in her like couples post scenes, so she fucking
loves them.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I just feel like they're very twenty ten. They give
me like statement necklace season like that's when they, you know,
were a thing.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah. So uh. Lauren then.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Wants to talk to Libby about the money situation, and
she's talking to either one of her friends of Yara
about it, and she's like, yeah, like I just really
felt like it was really necessary for me because I
wanted to talk to Libby because she's my friend and
I wanted to ask her what's going on are you okay?
And the only thing I can think about was like,
that sounds nosy to me. Like if I find out

(35:54):
that that one of my friend's husbands is like has
lost seventy five thousand dollars and that friend has told me,
yet I.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Am not going to call that friend and be like, hey.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Girl, So I heard, like, no, unless that girl told
me that her husband lost seventy five thousand dollars, then
we can talk about it, because she's opened the door
to me. So it's weird that Lauren thought like, yeah,
I wanted to talk to Libby about it.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
So then Lauren.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Explains to Alexi that the reason why she may have
said something to Libby that caused Libby to think that
Laura that Alexi was body shaming her was and then
she gives us like really stupid, convoluted like reasoning why,
and it's it's the only thing I can think of
is like, when you're in a couple them, or a
marriage or like whatever or a group, there are times

(36:40):
where your brain just thinks crazy things.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
And that was just one of the times that.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Her She's like, yeah, you were trying to motivate me
to like lose weight. Or to be more healthy, and
all I could think of was that you were body
shaming me. And listen, I know it's I have people
I have friends with female friends and acquaintances who will
start talking looking negatively about their body to me unbidden.
So I can only imagine what it's like when you're

(37:05):
in a relationship with somebody, you feel very free to
just like start downing yourself. And I personally hate it,
like I'm not interested when women are like, oh I'm
so this' is a girl like hm mm No. We
all think things about ourselves and we all don't have
to say them out loud every single time we see it.
So yeah, so that's what their drama is. And then

(37:28):
we somehow cut to Jovi and Yara, and Jovi and
Yara are on the beach or somewhere in a restaurant
eating with missus Gwynn and Yaar is wearing a sequence
skirt and I want to know if it's comfortable to
sit on.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, is at the time that like folds into themselves,
you know, like there's sometimes I kind of like stretch
a sequence and sometimes there's the really hard ones. That
restaurant looks beautiful. There was like flowers everywhere, and Mala's
there and job. Now, one thing about Mala, honey, you
got to start, you got to very early on teach
kids table manners. You cannot let kids do things in
public places at tables and then act like it's cute

(38:09):
when it's not cute. I'll tell you what's not cute.
When there's one bottle of water on the table and
that's like the table water, and then you use that
bottle to pour into the four glasses that are on
the table for their personal water. She grabs it and
she like puts it upright out her mouth, and you know,

(38:30):
Gwenn and Jill be like, oh, so what are you doing?
You think it's your bobble, you would, And the thing
about it is, no, you know, you don't have to
be mean, you don't have to hit it out of
her hand. But you're all like, oh no, no, Mala,
that's the table water. That's for everyone's mouth, not just
or that's you know, no one wants your mouth on that.

(38:51):
Here's your water. And this is I mean, I'm sorry,
this is a small thing, but I just really hate it,
and like, yeah, like just obviously at one point, also
the dog runs away. So really it's a free, free
reign house, you know, like whatever whatever anyone wants to
do is what's happening.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, I mean I didn't grow up going to restaurants.
I feel like the first time I went to a restaurant,
I was probably like ten so or like that. I
truly recall my we my parents cooked at home and
so like, it took me a while, like to understand
restaurant like etiquette.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Like even it took me a while.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
To understand that the server was always going to ask
me for my drink first, Like I was always shocked.
I remember being very anxious and being shocked, and they
would ask me what I wanted to drink, and I
would be like, I don't know, like I just got here.
So like, it took me a while to realize that
that's the first thing that they were going to do,
because we didn't go to restaurants that often. Like ever,

(39:49):
my parents cooked and didn't have the money to like
be be doing that, so I can only.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't know. I wouldn't know what it was. I
would not, in my.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Mind, take any child to restaurant unless they were either
too small to be running or old enough to know
not to run, So like, there is a definite timeframe
in which I would not take a child, which is
like walking age, so like eighteen months, two to six
or just eight Like no restaurant for you, because I

(40:19):
wouldn't know how to train a kid to do that,
but I definitely would.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Was looking at Mila like not in your mouth on that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And Missus Gunn was like ew and I'm no one's
saying anything, and I guess which I guess She's not
gonna say anything either. So they go to the bathroom,
Jobe loses the dog. Then he's like laughing about how
he did and how upset you know, Yaa would be,
and it's very true. And then we get into a
conversation about them possibly moving back to Louisiana and how

(40:51):
they both have such a great income that they could
buy a fucking mansion in Louisiana and Missus Gwyn is
looking at houses and so that's finally we have the
Yara and Jovie drama of their season, and we are
eleven episodes in and their drama is that he doesn't
want to live there and they could move back to

(41:11):
this to Louisiana, and he's been talking to his mother
about it, but not talking to her about it.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, and that miss Quin's already been looking for houses,
and that miss Quin's like I could take care of
Milene your kids. I just would. I've been waiting to
have more grandma time. I've been wondering this whole time,
when when can I babysit? I've been always thinking, you
know me, gwhen babysitting grandma? That's what they call me.
You know, like you're like, what when? Who are you?
And also another thing that makes me like also sad

(41:40):
for Ya is like she's like I literally can get
I don't forgot to write down the actual food title,
but it's like a Ukrainian dish, she says, bors second
or whatever. But she's like, I can get it whatever
I want downstairs from me. Like if it's a bad day,
it's a good day, it's a you know, whatever it is.
I get to have this thing and there's like a
Ukrainian community community, and I get to like actually see

(42:02):
people I know that look like me. You don't not
look like me, but like, you know, I'm sure she
sees a lot of people that look like her. But
you know, I'm saying like that you speak my language
and get me. That doesn't happen so much, probably in Louisiana.
So yeah, like, uh, she is too fabulous for that.
I almost want her to say that sometimes, like I

(42:22):
want her to be like you look at me, No,
I'm too fabulous to live there. Come on, look at me.
Look at who your son married, and then look at me.
Look at who you married. You know, you could have
married someone else that looked someone different, but you married me,
and I deserve you know. And the truth is, that's
what I always think about men who marry up very

(42:47):
high maintenance women, because I think you must not understand life,
that that takes effort and time and energy, and you know,
just like other things like being an artist. Does you
know what I'm saying? There's just certain things that take
a certain Jenna sequa, and that Jenna saqua is hard
to like muster and summon in certain places.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, definitely, And it's definitely difficult for that to happen
for her in Louisiana. So I get I get that,
But then we find out that that Yara does feel
bad for telling Libby all the things that she did.
She's like, listen, don't tell I'm, I'm I'm very straightforward.
Don't tell me something because I'll just tell the person,

(43:33):
And she realizes that she has caused a rift between
two friends because she is being at Chi's moosa or
can't hold her tongue like I'm telling you. I from
the beginning was like Yara is the problem. She keeps
telling people things when she should not. She should not, so.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
She feels like she needs to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
So next episode she's going to try to like figure
out how to get their relationship back. But prior to that,
Lauren and Libby have a conversation in which Lauren comes
into this conversation pretty like intense.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Again.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
She's another person that I feel is kind of like
Kara and kind of like Geno, where it's like do
you want to.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Say the relationship or not, like you want to say
the relate.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
So she goes in and she's like, I brought my
bag with the evil Eye, and I'm like, there's.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Nothing about Libby that I've seen on this show.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Unless Lauren knows something about Libby that we don't that
would even cause me to feel like Libby would think
bad or want bad upon somebody. She seems to worried
about her own shit for the most part, to be
like really worried about putting us putting something negative on Lauren.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
So I agree. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
So, like Lauren comes in and is like, I just
need there to I wanted to be in public with witnesses,
and I'm like, you know, you're on a TV show
and that like even if it was at.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Your house, like there would be witnesses, like witnesses to what.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
And the drama is it's very housewife their drama. Their
drama is so real wives of something that it is
hinged on nothing. You called my husband horrible. No, I
called him a dick. Yeah, he is a dick. Libby
knows that. But you're my friend. That's why it makes

(45:24):
me upset because you are my friend and we've been
talking for four years on like on the phone for
hours and you called my husband a dick and I
had to find out from someone else again Yara.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Being a being a Chi's moosa.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
And then Lauren is like, why did you tell your
husband that? I said Alexi body shamed me. Libby's like
he read my text messages. Lauren's like, I don't believe that.
And then Libby's like, well, he has said some things
to you based on our friendship and the based on
the things that you said to me that I find
to be inappropriate, right, just like why are we fighting?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So finally, Libby's just like just so you know, like
I really love you.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
We've been friends for such a long time, and I'm
not saying that our friendship is over, but like there's
a lot of hurt and I want you to know
I still love you and like we're cool, but just
like we need time apart. And I was like, thank you, Libby,
that is such a thank you. And then Lauren and
then like Lauren's like Okay, well I'm gonna leave now,
and I'm like, Lauren doesn't want this relationship. The way

(46:28):
she's behaving is like I don't want this relationship. She
didn't want a half ass hug. And then she just
leaves afterwards as though like she can't take it or
I don't know what'd you get from that.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I agree, I don't think she can't take it. I
think that she like and her friend like hated that
night and show she want to be like I apologize
for my friend's behavior and it's like not really, I
mean you were really on your friend's side. But you know,
like I think that she also. I think that it
was a really big blow and very awkward for her
to have that conversation in front of Laundree about the
body shaming. I think that she's like scared of her
husband and and him being upset and so she you know,

(47:01):
I feel like it was an and or it exposed
how whiny and or like victimy she is. I'm not
quite sure what it is, but she, you know, she
just I think that she doesn't need she I think
that she wouldn't probably feel comfortable with Libby, which I'm
so happy about because I would rather than them again
not film for the same reason you said. It feels
so housewipe again, even bringing up the stupid friend dinner

(47:24):
with her friend from like three episodes before classic housewife move,
so basically at the end, uh oh yeah, yeah, I
mean I don't know, that's that's really the end of their.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Little Yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah, So it's really
like just it's just it felt like a taco of nothing.
And then on top of that, I was like, Lauren,
you're weird for it's clear you don't want to be
her friend.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
A taco of nothing, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Just like a sandwich of nothing. Sandwich, Like it's just
like I couldn't think of the word sandwich, so I said, still, I.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Just wanted a little more clarifications, you know, because I
also love taco that it was like I never heard
that phrase at all. No, it's there's a corn shell obviously,
but there it's just nothing on the end, just like
it's just so basically it's eating chips. It's like eating
it's like eating two two whatever corn chips together, not
even the crunch part.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
You don't even have the salty crunch like you know.
It's just it was just annoying because I'm like, this
isn't real. And then and then on the end of it,
like she just doesn't want the friendship and it's so obvious,
and I'm just like, then just say that, like.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Why do you have to like blame who cares? Okay,
now we've talked about this, talking about people who don't
want it anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Kara and Garmo another thing of like you can't even
hear each other. You don't want to, you don't want Yeah,
you don't want to. So they're back at the cottage
and it's t and tense, and she's brushing the ship
out of her hair. I mean, it feels like she
went through all that to get it to be wavy,
and it feels like she's to brush it out.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
What is brushing? Dude? Does it not?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Does it make it? Doesn't it take the waves out?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I just I don't know. I'm not quite sure. I
think there are extensions, and so she's I think that
she's you know, I don't know. Yeah, I think there
are extensions. I think the waves help keep the extensions,
uh not like not from problem sorry blending properly, you know,
because like when it's straight, it's awkward. When it's when
it's a little wavy, like the ends kind of look

(49:25):
like you know, PC and like layers. So but basically
they're at that cottage and you know, listen, it's beautiful,
but it's like tense obviously because they fought hardcore last
night and then they just laid down afterward and slept
in the same bed. They didn't fuck, they didn't. They

(49:48):
were just like back to back probably that kind of thing,
you know, like where you can't even turn around and
oh god, like I just like it feels so bad
for them, because I also remember like they were so
happy to get there and at first everything like seems
so good. I almost feel like what had happened is
they started talking and then like if they I wonder

(50:10):
Sometimes I'm like, you should have just never talked. You
should have just done a silent retreat, like a couple's
silent retreat. You don't talk, you just use other forms
of communication. But at the same time, it did reveal
a lot like I hands down think that Kara has
cheated on him multiple multiple times and doesn't trust it.

(50:34):
And just like we just watched someone somewhat disintegrate into
their own fears, almost like a Dorian Gray and then
try and project and deflect them onto him and then
realize there's no way out because they're shared history and

(50:54):
what has happened Dusty, And so I think that there's also
a good chance that she's already fallen in love with
someone else broad that like does music or something like that,
because she is quick to be like, you're not my soul,
like this isn't working on night one of this like
couple's thing, or you know.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I didn't, Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't get
that at all. I think that I don't. I can't
say whether or not she's cheated on him. The fact
that she's so hurt that he would think that makes
me think that, you know, she hasn't, But she, I
think felt like she wanted to because the postpartum was

(51:31):
so bad and he wasn't there for her. So I
think that there's a huge block on him also not
being able to truly empathize with her, and he let
her down in such a momentous way that I don't
think even she really understands like what happened and how

(51:52):
she was let down by him, and so until she
can truly understand, like pinpoint and be like you let
me down.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
And from there I started to.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Behave in a way that where I pulled away from you,
where I did whatever, because I feel like I'm somebody
who has a delayed reaction to when things happen to me,
because I pushed through and I just move forward. And
sometimes I don't realize that I am behaving in a
certain way because of a catalyst or because of a

(52:19):
certain situation, and so until I'm like out of it,
and then I'm like, oh I've been I've been grieving
or I've been pulling away and so like she I
feel like she's did that and then is now still
mad at him or something.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
I don't know. It's just like.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
There's a lot of hurt on both sides because she
keeps crying. She keeps crying whenever she talks about it.
She just keeps crying, like and going into tears. And Oh,
I have a question for you. Do you believe that
they're actually sitting next to each other when they have
that confessional because I can't tell.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, I did. I know it was weird. I do.
I did think that.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Okay, yeah, I just couldn't tell whether or not they
were sitting next to each other because like, I don't.
I just can't in my mind, if somebody that I
love is sitting next to me and even though we're
in a fight and they start crying, the only way
I wouldn't reach over to give them some kind of
comfort is if I was fucking done. And so the
fact that he won't reach over and touch her just

(53:17):
so they can like mourn the loss of their relationship
together is like weird. It's like I don't get it.
It makes me go, oh, you don't get a fuck.
That's what that makes me go, is like, so I'm
just like, to me, Giamo doesn't deserve like whatever, because
he you know, I think they're both just done and
it's just hard to watch at this point. And I
hope that they do it well for Nico. I hope

(53:37):
that they like break up okay for Nico. So she
finds his hair gel and she is like, I don't
know if she's trying to show her superiority, but then
she's like, do you want to look around to see
if you left anything?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
He's like, no, I'm good, and she's like, oh.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Like staring at him as though like if it weren't
for her, he would have lost everything in that cabin. Yes.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yes. Then she's like, oh, so you're done, Like it
also almost felt like she's picking words that she thinks
are like for him to choose about their relationship. Yeah,
And he's just like, by done, you mean, have I
already packed my things and looked for everything I own

(54:23):
and feel good about that choice? Yes? And then she
does it a fucking again this fucking Then as you're
walking out, she's such a goddamn bitch and she's like,
thank you, thank you, Hey, thank you, and he's like, oh,
I'm you didn't hear me the first time, but I
said my pleasure. I have a question, what.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Do you when you say thank you to somebody, do
you especially say something for you? Do you expect them
to say something back to you? Yes, oh, oh you're welcome? Acknowledge,
I admit okay if okay, so okay, uh well okay.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
If someone opens the door for me and I say
thank you, I don't expect them to say something, but
I would, like, I mean, if I could see their face,
if I could see if they gave me like a
little like it'd be great, you know what I'm saying,
Like if I'm if I'm talking to my dad, I
never expect to reply at all, Like I never expect
a goodbye. I want to if I you know, if

(55:24):
I was like, hey dad and he puts something down
it's like thank you. I wouldn't be like thank you
and wait for him to say you're welcome. He would
never say it, you know, like she does. She's obviously
trying to pick a fight, and she's trying to not
only pick a fight, but also do a game in
which I win. I'm better than you. Yeah, I win.

(55:47):
I'm better than you. I know how to leave hotel
rooms without leaving things. I check make sure I took
all my plugs out. I get on my knees, I
look underneath beds, I open draworers. That's me. I'm responsible.
I say thank you because I was raised right, because
my mom raised a good person. And so when I
say thank you, I expect someone to say you're welcome.
You fucking trash. Like it feels so weird.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, I mean, I like he Gary, he carries her
bag without even a word. I'm gonna say right now,
if that were Gino Jazzman would be struggling with her
bag out.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Of the the fucking cottage. Okay, he carries her bag
without a word.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
He puts it in the car, and then she says
thank you to him, and like, I don't know in
that moment, like it just wouldn't even matter, because like
if I still had any kind of love for that person,
like and we're in a like if we're in an
obvious fight, like.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And I am like, I don't want to, I don't know.
It's just weird to me, it's just weird. Also, you
are the one literally like she's the one, She's the one.
The last night was like, I don't think you're my person.
He didn't say that first. These are the things I
just we're gonna end this. These are the things that
Kara said last night. One question, have you really never
fucking cheated on me ever in this relationship when it's
obvious that she did. And then also, I just don't

(57:01):
think that we're You're my one, You're the one for me.
And then now we get the like thank you, thank
you she is. She is simultaneously devastated and insecure that
he's somehow not like worshiping her or asking to be
with her or like begging to be with her, and
at the same time she is radiating guilt for having

(57:26):
cheated on him. It's so it's such a weird thing,
you know.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, yeah, all right, you guys, thank you so much
for joining us.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
That was in this episode.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
We are in episode eleven and there's you know, Kobe
Smunths episodes left, so stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
We'll be back next week.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
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Speaker 2 (58:01):
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talk about New Toe on Tuesday. And what time are

(58:24):
you gonna go on live on Tuesday? I'll pick a
time yours. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I'm gonna go probably at six pm Centru time.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah, six pm CST. Okay, great, So I'm gonna go
live after you. Okay, so here that'spo. So I'm gonna
go live probably maybe like five. Oh I should just
pick it now, I'll do I'll do six just in

(58:57):
case you go over an hour? All right.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah, So we're both doing Lives of nine to Day
Fiance the other way on Tuesday at you know, six
pm CST and six pm PST.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
So check us out. Oh that's easy.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, So check us out. All right, you guys, thank
you so much for joining us, and we will talk
to you later.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Bye,