90 Day Fiancé-Happily Ever After? 0915 You're Not a Kid Anymore, Dorothy

Wherein Jasmine learns the seriousness of Gino's allegations. Brandon hits a breaking point with Julia and his parents. Darcey's dad gives her some tough love. Loren and Elizabeth attempt to reconcile.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do
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do do do doo? Sweete. Hey everyone, I'm wa and
I'm Chris, and welcome to docu Sweeties. We're too, longtime
friends who discussed the rubting and sometimes shrashy world of
reality TV and docuseries.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, but through our own lens, which sometimes is in
New York Fashion Week and sometimes it's not.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
But at the end of the day, hopefully mildly sweet. Hello, Hi,
is there an LA Fashion Week?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Right, yes, Oh it doesn't sound doesn't roll off the
tongue the way New York Fashion Week does for me. Well,
it also doesn't have the same cachet. Okay, so today
we're talking ninety Day Fiance, Season nine, episode fifteen. You're
not a kid anymore, Dorothy. They're just making it up now,
they're just making it up.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
This this has no theme.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean, listen, you could tell me that that's obviously
a line from Wizard of Oz, but it doesn't even
really sound that way like kid like that. It's just
because it was more antiquated. And if you tell me that,
I'm like, sure, but it's not one of the.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Top ninety nine known lines.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
From that movie alone or you know, just so again,
this is the laziest titles possible, and I truly think
it's AI. But let's get into it. Let's start with
Georgie and Darcy honey. So start we start. She's cutting onions. Now,
this is a Darcy cooking heavy episode, Like I don't

(01:37):
know if Darcy is like laying plans and she could
for like a cooking channel, because a we know that
she knows how to cut steak, and there's all the
things that you know that she's very passionate about when
it comes to that stuff. And this is just one
of the many cooking Darcy scenes that we have in
just this episode alone. So she's cutting onions and she's
also wearing like zebra sequined track suit too peace, and

(02:03):
she has brown kind of like lvy textured like nails.
Like when I say textured, you know how like those
nails are now and it looks like almost like a
topography map, you know what I'm saying. Where it's like
you can touch it and you can feel the hills,
you know what I'm saying, And where there's valleys and
then now he comes in and he she's, you know, listen,
when you cut onions, honey, you cry.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I hate cutting onions, Like when it's like, A, it's
hard to do it because you're crying. B You have
to cut them so beautifully in order to like, you know,
really have them pop in a dish, and it's hard
to do because of the crying. And so she's doing
it and she's crying and he's like, oh, there you go,
crying for no reason.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
You always do that.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
And she's like, in this moment she gets to be
full Saint Darcy, who's like, not only am I not
crying for any reason? And I accept that as a
responsible and accountable saint that I am. I am making
your favorite Google teeny with a side salad and a
wooden dish that's obviously meant to share amongst the two

(03:06):
of us that you're just going to pretend is your dish.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I I will be honest. It's a great saint for her.
This was a great save for her. I Yeah, I
think that she really was on her high horse, and
she would have kept on that same high horse and
it would have been like, Okay, we see you rising above, Darcy.
But then Stacy comes and Stacy won't get off of
Georgie's neck for a second, and it's not even like fun.

(03:32):
It's at this point it's like, girl, mind your business. Idio. Yeah,
So he does sit there with that whole whole salad
in front of him, and I had to take a
picture of it because I was like, why does she
have the pastady has the salad?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, like, listen, that bowl is a serving bowl, Like no, like,
no one needs those handles. If you're going to use
a four, those are not That's that's if you have
to like bring multiple bulls whatever, God blast.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
But then she's doing it to your right.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
So then I'm like, is this just this thing where
it's like yeah, it's just like, well, there's just the
two of us, will just eaven the same bowl. I
mean it's like a Greek South. All of her food
looks so good. I just like want to like impress
upon you that I'm impressed by her. I guess you know,
like you know, like look at this, look at those flowers,
look at those like veggies veggies back there, like look,
she's she's this method soap or Missus Myers or or

(04:17):
that the missus Meyers back there. It's the lavender one,
you know, like we see that, Like she uses the
kind of sponge that's the sensitive kind. That's the blue one.
You know, it's not the green one that we know,
the green and yellow. That's the sensitive one. Listen, she's
she's discerning.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Look at her salt. It's the kind that you grind.
The bitch doesn't have, you know, pre ground salt. I mean,
I just you know, I'm giving her her laurel you're.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Giving you're giving her all the flowers right now. I
also point I wanted to point out, like is this
the Miami penthouse like kitchen or is it not? Is it?
Did I make up the person house? Did I make
up the word? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But you like in New York, like you know, you
could say, you know, but it's like penthouse means like
the top floor and he's just pretending. She's just saying
penthouse for a higher, higher level floor and a condominian
in the sky in Miami.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, because this kitchen is not worthy, it's not worthy
of the word penthouse.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Like the Wyoming print. Look at like she's like on
like a dead cow. Look at all the dead cow
she's wearing zebra in a weird like Adida's way.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, it's it's it's a weird. It's the first time
we're seeing her home and it doesn't feel like it's
Darcy's home. So then like, yeah, I'm watching this and
I'm like, where's is this a rental? Like what space
is this? You're right, that's what it is. You're right, okay,
because I'm like, it does not give what I would
expect Darcy's space to look like. Even though I feel
like she spends no time in the kitchen. I love

(05:45):
the fact though, that we get to see that, yeah,
you know what, she she's a mom. And then we're
reminded she's a mom when she and Georgie go to
Connecticut because they have their New York Fashion Week, So
they go to Connecticut and this is where Georgie has
to put on the mask because he really likes her
dad but like hates her I mean, and he's like,

(06:06):
you know what you did to me in Bulgaria is
still weighing on me and I don't know if I
could ever trust you again, And she's like, I don't
even know how much you get paid and he's like, well,
I still can't trust you with my emotional grid. And
we're just like, oh, okay, so you guys are going
to talk about two separate things all the time, Like

(06:28):
one is going to introduce an argument and the other
one is just going to start talking about something different,
like in order to like combat that, to show who
has the upper hand.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
They're like they're kind of like both really good at
deflecting or I guess, like you know in a way,
you know, but like it's just because they're in a
toxic relationship and they've always been in such a way bad.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's so bad. Don't you remember your origins of this?
Like she basically wanted Georgie to marry her because Florian
had asked Stacy. So she forced this because Stacy was married,
and like, you know, they can't be in a kind
of relationship situation different from each other, like they if
they're both gonna be married, if one's gonna be married,

(07:06):
they both need to be married.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, Like it's really there's that old fashioned song like
anything you can do, I can do better, I can
do anything better that Like I feel like that's what
their constant relationship is, you know. And so once one
does something it's like, shit, I gotta do it, and
you know, do it better, do it bigger, you know.
But yeah, she's gonna go visit Anico and Aspen, who
are in college in Connecticut, and now he like piece

(07:30):
things back together. Okay, they're with their dad living in
that beautiful house. The dad maybe doesn't own the condo.
Maybe he literally is just on the text because maybe
they are just renting a dumb condo in Miami somewhere,
because I guess my mind, I don't see the dad
having bought them that condo now, like especially after this
conversation which we'll have anyway. So basically, you know, Nico

(07:52):
and Ask and see their mom Darcy, They're like, oh,
you're like a bowling ball, and she just certain, she's
you know, she loves a fur. You know this one
has like LV on the back. I'm just gonna tell
you this right now that if if you talk to
face value every designer thing that that Darcy owns, then.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Then it would be like.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know that like really crazy queen of like Thailand
that had all those shoes. It'd be like someone who
had masked that that amouse of wealth, you know, where
it's like it's like no way, Like you know, there's
no way, because it's like that a coat alone is
like whatever, like twenty thousand dollars ever go. So basically
we also see the next Darcy cook and Darcy b

(08:31):
Cooking episode, which is that now it's pancakes, and her
like daughters and her dad are like absolutely fucking not,
and mostly because she made it in the same pan
that like bacon was in and she's like, oh no,
let's feed that to that.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Man over there.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm married and he's gonna love that bacony pancake, which
is basically what McDonald's try to sell us.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Remember griddle cakes? Oh is that what it is? I've
never had a griddle cake, but I do think that
having a little bit of like bacon in a sweet
pancake would be kind of good, the sultine the sweet
mixed together. I wasn't mad at it. I felt like, yeah, yeah,
I felt like if I felt like, okay, she might
be onto something here. But also, did you not notice that,
like Anni Ko has her entire face and it's the

(09:12):
face that Darcy doesn't want.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Maybe it's not Aniko, it's or I don't know which one,
but I know I said yes, by the way, one
of them doesn't one and doesn't.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
And I'll be honest which ones watch? Yeah, I don't.
I don't remember. I can't remember the other one's names
that otherwise I would try to Aspens. That's Aspen, Okay,
it's Aniko. Yeah. So, and Anniko is the one who
has her face, I believe. And so it's crazy to me.
And they're beautiful. They came from around the bend with
their with their like well done extensions. Thetens were the

(09:45):
extensions great, but they were extensions, yeah, but they weren't crazy,
you know. And and so like I was just like
good for them. They look so beautiful, and here's their mother,
like just is this Stacey? Yeah, this is Stacy, but
like their mother just giving away the looks just like,

(10:05):
let let that face go anyways, and so they hug her. Yeah,
and it's a it's a thing that she calls it,
that she calls Georgia stepdaddy. And they're like, absolutely not.
We never see him like we saw you a couple
months ago.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
And he wasn't even at the holidays because he quote
unquote couldn't get here or time off work when it
seems like just the time to do that.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
He's a weirdo. I mean yeah, because I'm like, I'm like, yeah,
if you work retail, it's obvious you can't come Like
for them to say that, that means that they you know,
they don't have anyone in their lives who work retail. However,
you can make it the day of Christmas like the
day of yeah, and and and as close as they
live Connecticut to New York City or well wherever, he

(10:47):
could have made it. So I definitely see that. And
so then she starts to she said. He says the
reason why he's frustrated with her is because she will
just bring up things in front of her family that
you know, they never spoke about. And I'm like, but
you did that to her when you started talking about
getting an apartment in Bulgaria in front of like Stacey

(11:09):
and Florian and you didn't. And it's the same thing,
So like, why are you mad? That's the same reason
she got mad is that it's the same thing that
you did to her, whether or not it was on
intentional or no, but it's just it's speaking things into
existence in front of other people. And Brandon is wrong
for doing it like a lot of couples I think
tend to do this when they want, at least in

(11:30):
this show.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, Brandon's king of it, like I've
no one better. Like it's how Brandon communicates with Julia,
it is it is.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
He won't do it directly, he'll just do it via
or via a vehicle to try to get her to
say yes because she he wants her to be outnumbered.
And it's the same thing that Darcy just did in
that moment there, and so yeah, like it's such a
weird dynamic and the dad is just calling bs. He's like, listen,
I gotta talk to you girls, So go hitting addressed

(12:00):
and uh, I'll talk to you. And I'm like, what's
the time laps?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Especially so before that, So so basically okay, yes, So
Stacy and Florin has joined the Fray, right, you know,
because they're all going to go to New York together
and that's what they're meeting up in the Connecticut House.
And so when Florine and Stacey come, they're wearing first
of all red great also be Georgie and Florine are
wearing what my favorite buffalo fucking plaid you know, I
talk about it all the time. It's buffalo plaid, you
know what it is. So and then Darcy's wearing all white,

(12:27):
so they actually look great all together or whatever, which
probably was you know, planned, even though they're gonn pretend
it wasn't. At this point, then the two men go
outside and they like are shoveling snow or whatever, and
I'm I.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Mean, quote put those quote bigger, Chris, go ahead, Yeah,
they're shoveling, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
And I have been kind of waiting for an off chance,
like maybe even like forgotten moment where we can hear
these two men talk the.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Real real but they're they've gotten wise.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
To the cameras, and like, definitely, at first I was like,
I'm sorry why I say this is because at one
point they were being filmed from inside the house outside
but we could hear them, and.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So I was like, holy fucking god, is this one
of those things.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Sorry to say that if you that makes you upset,
But like I was so excited because this is what
I've wanted my whole life, Like, is this a moment
where they're gonna have like a secret like jinx down
moment where they don't know they're on camera and they're going.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
To be like, yeah, it's crazy. When you're at the
dad's house.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
They really have to lay down the law or well,
I don't know what I thought I was gonna hear,
but guess what, we hear nothing. But then the dad
lets it all out. So sorry, I didn't want to
your tear, but I wanted to poor not those two things.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah. No, they go outside in their like regular shoes
and shovel snow with no gloves on, which is why
I like you, this is not realistic at all, y'all
are You're not serious about this at all? And also
like that man has people to do that for him.
That is the kind of man he is the dad.
So and then then the house I thought that was
Darcy's house but turns out as her dad's house. If

(13:53):
it's not, I think, okay, and so beautiful home and
uh they then she and Stacy didn't have a conversation
with their dad, just about things, and he pulls out
his notebook. He has a notebook of notes. Uh, and
he's just like, okay, first of all, yeah, first of all,
you gotta take me off the email chains. You got

(14:15):
to you gotta remove me from that. I mean, you're
you're you're fifty years old, Like you can't have me
on these things like insteade of my business. I don't
want to get in your business. But also I told
you so, so, like what's going on with this? And
they're like, oh, well, you know, and Stacy's like, yeah,
he's terrible, are her? He's terrible? And so you know,
Darcy sitting there like and I'm like, what an interesting conversation. Also,

(14:39):
we just find out that her dad had cancer and
that he's been battling it and that Sheez Louisu's I'm
so sad, I know, which almost like take this man
off the fucking chain. Then, like I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, I really was, like really gave myself the theory
that her dad had owned the place I needed to
like pay rent to, which was the only reason why
I could foresee this woman doing that to him, especially now.
And I'm like, oh, and he's sick, honey, he doesn't
need that fucking text. Also, what is he gonna do.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yell at back while he's getting like, you know, god
bless some sort of radio?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
What are you talking about? So she you know, she
does love her dad it's just that I think that
she This is where it's interesting. So the minute that
he says that, she gets very defensive and she goes, well,
how do I get no, da, And she's not like,
you're right, dad, I need to find an effective way
to communicate with my husband so that we can handle

(15:29):
our business and not you know, and I get that,
like and that I'm so sorry to do that to you.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Maybe it was like I realized, dya, that I wouldn't
have the money or who knows. But she's not.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
She's immediately defensive and there's not a better solution in
her mind. And that's part is like annoying to me
because I'm like, well, there is, and the better solution
is to well find a better way to communicate, and
that's going to require therapy or a long hard talk.
And the dad basically is like, listen, fucking let me
tell you. You guys fight all the time. You know,

(15:59):
reminds me of you and your mom, Me and my mom, sorry,
me and your mom. And then Darcy gets to have
like a moment of being like, yeah, my mom and
she hardly ever talks about him, And we got to,
you know, we got to be like a little flashback
and she talks about her mother's resentment because the dad
was always working.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
You don't have to pay for this beautiful home. You
know what I'm saying for all this. Yeah, and then
he continued to Yeah, he's been successful. He doesn't also
look that old. Like to me, he seems very like
with it. I if I didn't know that he had
daughters that were well, the truth is, he could just
be seventy if he had them really young. Because they're fifty,

(16:35):
he could be seventy. That's twenty years. But he gives
me like late sixties, which you know, people might be like, oh,
there's not a difference, but like there's something about him
that doesn't give frailty to me. It speaks that he's
still like active in doing things. And he's like, look,
this is you know, this is what we're dealing with here,
and this is how you got to manage this. And
and he's the only parent who will be on the

(16:56):
show that mom was in one little bit in the
like in the very in one of their own season
or something, and we never saw her again. So I yeah,
I just I hope the best for her dad, just
in life in general. He seems he's a fun character,
and I really do want Stacy and Darcy just to
kind of get it together. As much as I like
the entertainment from them, it just at a certain point,

(17:19):
I'm just like guys, Georgie really and he's like, yeah,
you know, you were going to be a sugar mama,
and you're a sugar mama, So like, why are you
complaining to me and adding me to emails?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like I wish Emma would actually call her a sugar mama,
Like I don't feel like she understood, like, because it
doesn't feel like she understands the nature of her relationship.
And I would say the same thing for you know,
if the genders were reversed or whatever, or if the
you know, if they're both male who like whatever, It's
just it truly always feels like and she always has
wanted love, for sure, and then she decided to not.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Prioritize what she should good.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
In looking for a maid, and so her dad basically
is like, Okay, obviously, take me off the chain. You
argue a lot, you have to really like think about
your future, and he's like, you have to think about
what you want first, you know, Like he could have,
you know, an agenda, and the agenda is like some

(18:20):
other plan or whatever, and they, of course Stacy's there.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
So Stacy's like, ah, huh, That's what I've been saying, Daddy, Daddy.
It's always been like that. D Daddy should have seen
him in Bulgaria, Daddy, Daddy.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I was, yeah, you know, like you're just like by
the way Dorsey earlier on like to her dad while
making the pancakes, was like, yeah, I'm in Bulgarya. I
think I made a really good impression in front of
his parents. So to have Stacey be like, oh, fucking crazy,
Daddy should have Yeah, it's hilarious. So now they leave
Connecticut to get in a big like uber XL to

(18:50):
go to New York. I don't even know exactly how
long it is. I'm not East Coast. I'm like, are
they taking this to New York? Are they going to
a train?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Like?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
You know, like, is they going right? It's a straight
shots depending on where they live, it's an hour drive.
Oh well then great, you know like they used to.
They all get in and then Stacy, I mean, Stacy
has done so much work. Honestly, Georgie should hate Stacy
from after the season, you know, like I think he does.

(19:18):
I think he hates her currently right now, like in
the season when we're watching, I think he's he feels
like Stacy is always giving her in from her two
cents and we don't care about Stacy, and then he
doesn't really I don't want to see him in Florian fight,
Like fisticuff between him and Florian would just rock my world, right,
But I think they're on the same page, but they
can't be in real life.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
But they're secret blinky blinks, you know their secret, like
you know yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah yeah, winky winks.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah. They fight the whole way in this car though, yeah,
uh it is in and it's because Stacy wants to
moderate and be like, well, Georgie, what do you say
about Like she wants to just be in their relationship
and I'm like, back up, the only reason why your
sister is even married to this man is because she's
jealous of you, So stop it, hit stop rubbing salt

(20:10):
in the wound wounda wounda anyways, that's all about them.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
No, I know.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, So basically, at one point, she's like Georgie, you know,
she's wasting the best of years of her life.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
With you, and he's like, no, it's me. I'm wasting
the best years of my life with her. And I
mean it's like there's something that's like, this is what happens.
We've seen this theme in Bulgaria where it's like both
of them are like Georgie, I'm upset, and I'm not
saying they don't have the right to be. But he
undercuts one fucking deathe It's like a death blow. Like obviously,
him being like you guys are poor, you have no

(20:43):
money was like whoo. And then him actually throwing it
back and be like I'm wasting the best years of
my life with you.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is like lol.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
True true because they're true because he has gray hair
on both sides, honey, and he is a good looking man.
But here's the other thing. I'm not saying he deserves better,
but he is he this is the best years of
his life. He could be doing it whatever. He might
not deserve goodness in his life. We don't know his moyal,
moral character, and we have suspicions we would like to

(21:11):
be wrong. I want the best for this world and
every single person I haven't seen from him any sort
of like authenticity or sincerity. One part of it is, oh, yeah,
he won't even tell her like how much money he makes.
And another whole part of it is, we don't even
fucking know what he does. Yeah, a hotel clerk, he receptionist, missus.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Spa person. Yeah, it's very very shady, and we don't know.
And that's what we want to know what he does.
And you know it. And he is wasting his but
he's thirty eight. Like not to say that they're not
having a good time, but she at least had True
to Shoe when she was thirty eight. She was with
True to Shoe.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, well he's he is glatched on a True to
Shoe and now he at thirty eight, he's just like
the fucking he's the aftermath.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, he's the aftermath of like the apex of Darky
True to Shoe. Yeah, he's just an aftershock. He's exactly
And we forget about Tom all the time he had
his little five miles of fame. But like, yeah, no,
but Georgie is ruined. He is wasting his time with her,
truly because he's not utilizing the ninety day Fiance universe

(22:23):
in the way that he possibly could, Like does he
do cameos?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Like what is he doing? What is he really doing
on camera to get people to like him and be
on his side? He just grumbles about how miserable he
is with her, but he won't divorce her.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
What is his sexuality like and where does he express
it the most? And like, cause that's my question is
when you say, when you say wasting, I hate to
say this sometimes I think, well, there's two ways of
saying that. You can say you're wasting your romantic energies
and time and space and dick, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
And like if so, then then you know, like does
he get in? Is he?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Are they in an open marriage? Just he have girlfriends?
I'm a sly like is he not able to like
be an authentic relationship with someone.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Or boyfriends or men?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Is he not able to like really express himself in
a relationship that would be healthy because he's pretending and
or deciding to be in this one and you know,
parading around with Darcy.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I mean also know so it's like we just don't
know him.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's why I'm like, we want to know how he moves,
Like we don't know, and he's untrustworthy, so if he
I mean, we get that from Darcy.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
But like, it's all it's so very obvious that we're
like him me, your dad, her dad. We're all like, bitch,
you should have known. M Yeah, you're right, you're a
seasoned woman, all right. You ready to move on to
the Real Housewives of ninety Day Fiance? Sure? So we
start off with the realm with Joviara and the other

(23:52):
people and they're in the hot tub, and this is
right after Yar gets out of the hot tub and
she's crying, and then the couples for for a hot minute, Andre, Alexi, Lauren,
and Libby are like, hey, Jovi, you should go after her.
Jovi is like the only not real husband there. Like,

(24:13):
as much as these couples are annoying, Jovi is the
only one who does not understand what it means to
be a husband. And I really feel like Alexi and
Andre are like husbands. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, Like he hasn't seemed to have evolved one morsel
since getting married, and I think that, like the truth is,
I think hopefully when you are in a relationship, you
both evolve in a way because I guess I'm obviously
not in one that really didn't even know. But like

(24:45):
I'm assuming that you compromise, and in through the compromise,
it requires you to grow and stretch and emotionally evolve
and have like capacity and empathy for others because you've
had to like share space and really like he or
someone all that stuff. But Jovie hasn't seemed to have
done that at all, Like they don't seem to have

(25:06):
a real relationship, And unfortunately I see that now in
so many ways, and so when they call it out,
it is you're absolutely true. The other thing about job
is we're still harping on him having said that Yara
used to look not as great as she does now,
and he will not take accountability that it was a
shitty thing to say, even if he thinks it's true,

(25:28):
and even if he thinks it's not shitty, it was.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
And he continues to try and defend it and get
mad that no one is taking his side, and it's like,
fucking drop it, you dumb fuck what do he want? Yeah,
He's like, I don't say he was ganging up on me,
because like, I didn't do it, I didn't mean it
that way, and it's like it doesn't matter your intent
at this point. Your intent unfortunately does not matter at

(25:53):
this point because you you embarrass your wife in front
of people. We don't want you. Yeah, like so fuck you.
Yeah yeah yeah. Also it's yeah, you're right, there's a
way that sometimes couples move in tandem with each other
that him and Yara don't. And maybe it's because he
still spends months away on a boat and so they've
never really had this like they they've grown separately. Well,

(26:16):
she's grown separately as a human because she's had Milo
the whole time, and so she's like mom mode, single
mom mode most of the month. And then he comes
in and he's waiting for his good time gals and
like wants to have a party, and she's like they're
not even having sex and they're the not the youngest,
but they're the ones where maybe they're the ones with
the with the least like shit, it feels like two

(26:41):
they all Lauren has three kids, the mother people got
two kids. They got like that's heavy. Yeah, I mean
he's like, I have a dog. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
So basically he comes back, she doesn't really want to
talk about it. She comes back to the pool and
they try and plan tomorrow, and then you know, at
that point when they leave, we get one moment of
like Lauren talking to Andre, like telling him what had happened,
which it was like at least they're talking.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm always just like I thought you thought that person
was a monster.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
And then Andre thinks that Jovie is in a lower
league than Yara, and then he says, look at his face,
and of course Libby's like, you can't say that.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
We're all like that's true.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
And then we get the idea that we like that
he has money, that Jovie is a known entity with
financial means money is relative to anyone, but with financial
means that he has it enough to be like.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Dispersing.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
So basically then Joe goes back, uh, you know, I'm
sorry you are, and Joey, Jerry, Yre and Jovie continue
to fight.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
The other couples. They're like, oh, this is not fine.
We're gonna go fuck or whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
God bless bye, and so they continue to fight because
he will not drop it even when he says he's
gonna drop it, because he wants to like have his
point be made that it wasn't that mean, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
God bless. He's literally like, all right, well this is
not going nowhere. I'm gonna go to the bar.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I'm like, oh my god, you are like remember
when you didn't want to be known as an alcoholic?
Like you literally can't help the words coming out of
your mouth. You could literally just exit the scene right
now and be like I to go to bed and
then wink wink, go wherever the fuck you want.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
But that's just how outa ware you are. Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I want to So the next day, the boys are
all gonna go snowboard. Sorry, so snow mobiling. Snow mobiling.
This also brings up another fact of like, oh, so
none of these people actually ski or snowboard, not enough
that people want to go, which I saw was interested.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Oh you mean to ski or snowboard? Yeah, oh, I'm
right with them. I don't do of those things, and
I feel like I would break my neck. So like,
I want to do something that there is least now
snowmobiling I want to do, but I feel like i'd
also break my neck at that too, And that seems
the most doable because I know how to drive a car,
and so I feel like I can manage a snowmobil.
But skis is a snubbery. What the snowmobil? Uh? I

(28:52):
think it goes too fast for me, Like I think
I would be like, yeah, you know, like I got
I've been on a if you stop, if you break,
does it sly?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I don't know, never done it? Sorry question, I don't know,
so like yeah, but the one thing I did notice
about that segment is that one the boys are like
and Jovie brought it up, glad the girls aren't here
because they'd be complaining. And I'm just like, why do
we have to have these like men who just like
not hate their wives, but like don't find value in company.

(29:21):
Like it's one thing when you're like, Okay, I'm glad
my wife is not here, because then I can just
worry about me, Like I understand that, like when you're
when I'm with someone for some reason, I then extend
myself to taking care of them, like that is just
something I do. And I know that there are men
who are in relationships who do that as well, And
so not having your spouse with you can kind of

(29:41):
take away that burden. Like when I go places by myself,
it takes away the burden of feeling like you have
to like look out for somebody else. But to be
like they would just be complaining. I'm so glad they
didn't come. It's just like, well, you don't have to
continuously tell us you don't like your wife, like you
wouldn't hang out with your wife. And Andrea agreed with him,
but I was just like, this is each doing it
to you know, to do whatever, because Jovi is to

(30:03):
me the one who was really grateful that y Are
wasn't there. Cut to the women. Uh, they go and
start smelling candles at some boutique. This boutique wasn't it
for me? Pep, I needed more, I needed more uh
stuff in it or another space, like is there a
William so Noma, you guys can be and so that
I can look at all the things. Anyways, So they

(30:25):
go there and Lauren's like Alexi says, don't spend overspend
trying to impress you guys. Ha ha ha ha ha.
And we're like, girl, nobody's checking for you, Like who
is checking? What is your checking for her? Libby's not
checking for her?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like I feel like.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Lauren in her friend group is like she's the top
tier in her friend group or something like there's something
about it that lets me leads me to believe that
because she has this show and because she's successfully married
with three kids and got her body back after surgery,
that like she's top tier in her group of friends
and with these girls, I'm like, girl, nobody cares about you.
None of these women are checking for you or trying

(31:05):
to be you. To like, relax with all that. I
agree with you.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
This is where Yar makes an obnoxious like roy, Okay,
let me say this. They all talk about sex, which
is fine, and the boys do too. In the car,
the boys are like, yeah, just so you guys know,
the walls are thin. So Jobe basically heardly be like
moan all night long, you know what I'm saying, and
the girls are it's like kind of like summer nights,
and the girls are like talking about sex.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
And that's when you brought up the fact that yeah,
Job and y'a are not having sex.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And Yar is like, whatever, I'd rather just spend his money,
like you know, and she's like, yeah, Roloks is better,
you know, rolks or sex. And then it's funny because
ya really has like dug her heels into like a
very materialistic kind of like rich housewife, you know, like yeah,
rich housewife aesthetic, you know, with an emphasis on wanna

(31:54):
be old money, you know, like and.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's so.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Done and so almost like a costume, you know, and
it's like right, it just feels so I don't know,
I feel like this is the season where I'm not
gonna like yeah anymore. And I just feel like it
always happens and it makes me sad. So Andrea needs
lip bomb and don't and don't y'all don't.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Something at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was
gonna mention that too, because I said, you know who
had the lip bomb, Alexi, and they shared it and
so that again leads me to believe that Andrea and
Alexi would be cool if it wasn't for their feuding wives.
That's what he said, Yeah, specifically Lauren, because Libby's not
feuding with Lauren. She doesn't want to. Yeah, she does

(32:37):
not want to. So the girls go and they go
to a restaurant. They sit at the bar, they order beverages,
they order food and they're eating it, and you know,
Libby's like, I don't want to argue with Lauren, and
Lauren's like I'm uncomfortable, and she brings it up, and
Libby's like, okay, girl, I don't understand what it is

(33:00):
that you are mad at me for telling your husband. Okay, okay,
well go talk to my husband then, because I don't
know what you're talking about, where it came from, why
we're still talking about it. And so then Lauren's like,
I'm not going to talk to her husband. That's so weird.
And I'm like, then stop talking about it, and yes

(33:22):
you are, Yes you are, just move on. Yes she is,
Yeah she is. And then she's gonna say that Libby
told her to yeah at the bar later, Yeah, when
it's your worst time.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Maybe she had a couple of drinks because she was
feeling nervous at first, and so now Lauren's gonna have
in a couple of drinks and then you know, start
doing all the things she does, which is a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, And then and then even next episode, I'm just
like I just want to I just want them to
give me all of it so I could just be
done with them and move on. Then she does some
then Libby does some shit next episode that doesn't make
any sense either. So it's just like again, I really
miss you.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
You're my friend for four years, just like shut up. Yeah,
when I watched that part, I thought, oh, I wonder.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
If there's a part of them all filming together because
they no longer have really great people in their lives,
because like Jovie doesn't have any friends period, like you
know that, you know, like I don't, like Lauren has
friends like Naga or whatever, but like.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I don't, I don't know who they would film with.
And since they are able to like talk.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
To each other because they have like a shared history,
like maybe that's what it is, because I, yeah, I
just Yara has her friends, right, we've met you our's friends.
Jovie has none, you know, like Andre, I don't know
who Andrea's friends are, but I don't think that he
has many. I think that he really is in a
codependent relationship with Libby and that's why they like best
friends whatever, Like you know, I don't think that they

(34:49):
I think that he is home.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
All the time.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And I think Libby maybe like has she has her family,
she has her sisters. Maybe she has like some mom friends,
but like no one she's really close to. I think
that Lauren probably has the most friends because like she
has like some like friends that are like you know,
like maybe from Temple and stuff like that, and Alexi
maybe like some friends through Lauren. But I think there's
also probably like some conservative people in Lauren's circle that

(35:13):
probably don't want to be on TV as well. So
I think that this was a way for them to
have their lives be on camera with stuff happening.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, you're right. I think that's a good astute point. Also,
the fact is is that they are a ninety day fiance,
successful couple who still want to do the show. And
I think that then that nighttyay fiance will honor that
because the truth is, if like Emily and Kobe wanted
to come on the show and do whatever like they could,
they're another successful couple. Like I feel like I'm waiting

(35:44):
for Annie and David to just come back because now
they got a baby. Like you know, there's there's some
successful people on the show, and it's just like it
depends on whether or not they want to put their
lives go through another six months of filming or whatever
they do. Yeah, so okay, ready to move on? Sure,
all right, so let's move on. Let's just let's do

(36:06):
Jasmine and Matt. Let's do Jasmine and Matt. Okay, so
we're hot off the heels of her boo she's still boohooing. Okay,
she's still in her tied ie two piece, sitting on
her bed. Matt is standing in the door, and it
feels like he wants to support her, but he doesn't
know how because maybe he didn't have a supportive father

(36:27):
figure in his life, so like, he has no idea
how to relate to this crying human being who has
a baby in them. And so he's like, Babe, you
gotta calm down. Mama, you gotta calm down. And then
he turns around and walks away and goes downstairs. So
the only thing she has to do is call Michelle.
So she's like, hi MEECHI hi g no, g no.

(36:55):
He said he's gonna call him aggression on me, and
I feel like and so then you know, Michelle is like, listen, girl,
I feel you. You know you y'all did some dirts.
Some shitty things are happening. You're both responsible for this,
But yeah, I do. I can see how he would
do that. He's hurt right now, he's just acting out.
So she gets to commiserate with Michelle, so she has

(37:17):
that as her friend, which I enjoy for her because
she definitely doesn't have Matt. Matt doesn't actually activate until
they go and see the lawyer and then oh, first
they eat ice cream with SiO or something, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Liquid liquid nitrogen ice cream with dry eyes. Just going
in and going out looks like you're like eating you know,
ice cream and smoking hookah at the exact same time.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I kind of wanted to try it wouldn't be too
cold for my mouth, maybe, but I did want to
try it.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, I think it's only ice cream temperature, So if
ice cream temperature is too cold, then yes, but if
ice cream temperature is fine, then you're fine. Also to
say this, Jasmine has also committed to one fucking theme
for her clothes this season, and that is cheetah or leopard.
Can I be honest, I don't quite know. I you
tell me if this is cheetah or leopard? You tell me, Okay, leopard,

(38:05):
But like it's she every every yep is everything besides
the blue tie eye. She if she's going out, she's
wearing this like she know, Like I don't know exactly
what happened. It's like someone gave her a care box
with like all Leopard everything, every pashmina, every blouse, every
like little like card cardigan you can throw, you know,

(38:27):
like I'm sure there were mittens in there, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
But Yeah, she really into it. I love it. I'm
into it too. I think it's a neutral and if
I could have more, I would. Every time.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
You have like something you like, You've become like a
Jasmine stand account. I feel like, good, God, bless you.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
You know you really are your attend to. Yeah, I
feel like she's not yelling, She's not yelling at Gino
anymore and getting on my nerves with her crazy antics.
I just feel compassioned for her because she's pregnant and
this is a really embarrassing situation to be in, and
she's showing it to us. This This is crazy. This
situation is absolutely wild. And the crazy thing about it
is that if they had put it in actual order,
then it would be a little bit you know whatever.

(39:08):
But the fact is that we saw her on the
tell all of Resort of what resort? Yeah, pregnant af
and she's more pregnant in Resort than she is on
this season right now that we're watching, and so it's
just like to know that there's more to come, that
she's gonna go and have Rob yell at her and

(39:30):
call her all kinds of names and have to sit
there and you know, he throws her shoe across the
thing and like it's just a lot. And then have
Matt on national television tell people that he doesn't love
her or that they're not in a relationship, but you know,
he wants to take care of his kids. Like it's
just it's a crazy, wild situation. So yeah, I'm like,
it's already that. So anyways, they have that and she's like, oh,

(39:53):
the baby's you know, like a dragon in my belly,
and I'm like, girl again one of her crazy statements
that I just think is so annoying. And they get
to the law office and they meet a lovely lawyer
who is Latina. I can't pronounce the names that have
the X in them, and I always forget what the
sound is because I always think an X is X,

(40:14):
but it's not in outside, like not in this in
this case. And so the lawyer gives them It's interesting
how sometimes on these television shows, it's like, dude, I
wonder if the producers tell the lawyers to tell them,
like the worst case scenario, so that they can react
to a worst case scenario, because the lawyer is talking

(40:38):
as though Gino knows what Florida law is. Gino is
in Michigan, Like the way she's like, you know what
he can also do is he could claim that baby
for himself. Like I'm like, why would you even tell
her that, Like, just tell her the the like options
based on what she is saying before you. So now

(40:59):
we have Jasmine acting to, oh, you can have me
the port and the baby won't be American, And I'm
just like, well, Matt is so like the baby could
be American once Matt does you know, files for her whatever.
This is not all this is not a zero sum game,
like there are options, and so then Matt's like, oh wow,

(41:19):
I didn't think it was that serious. I didn't think
that Gino could just take my baby. And I'm like, guys,
you know don't want your baby. Gina doesn't want that baby.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It'd be such a weird move if he took the
baby and just like raised it like his ward. You know, yeah,
I don't think he wants the baby. Either you know,
he doesn't want to pay for a dependant, you know
he is, but yeah, basically that's.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Then. Of course, the whole.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Time, Matt's been like, well, when you get in, their
first question is when you can divorce this asshole, and
Jasmin's like, nineteenth question, I have to get on my
ducks in the row first, And basically then half a
hearing this, Matt's like, all right, well, what if we
just she did? What if she divorces him and marries me.
I'm an American citizen and we don't have to deal

(42:07):
with this, And she's like, oh, you can't do it
that fast. And so the worst case scenario kind of
is this, which I'll be honest doesn't sound that bad
to me, okay, which I'm just saying because everything she
would then go back to Panama and then when the
divorce is final, then he would marry her and then
she'd come back.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
That's not that bad, yeah to me.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
But like, especially because I hate to say this, their
relationship is not like on firm ground, so to me,
it makes sense more for you.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
To raise this baby with.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I don't know some people that you know that have
like a relationship to you where you're a little more
on firm ground with them, like Panama, where all your
fucking family lives. So that's why I think that this
is like, yeah, I differ from you so much in
this because I do not have the same compassion and
sensitivity for her that you do for her.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, I just some of the decisions are why, Like
I just I'm like, Matt doesn't love you. It's clear
like he's he's like, I don't want to introduce her
to my mother until she's divorced. But he's never said that,
so now that's a new thing. He's adding to it.
And then the divorce. I imagine that she isn't thinking
about divorce because she doesn't want to get deported and

(43:21):
she thinks that if she divorces him, it'll speed up
the deportation or whatever. I'm not sure what the issue is.
But also he said, and I don't know if he
says it in this season, but he's also said that
he doesn't want to sign papers for a divorce with
Jasmin because he doesn't want to have to give her anything.
Yes he did.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, you're right, he said that this season. But at
the same time, if he okay, if he got her
for fraud and got her deported. I don't think he'd
have to give her money because the baby's not his
and you don't have to pay alimony for a frauded marriage,
you know, like, so he wouldn't have to pay for her.

(44:00):
It is his only way out, you know. And I
hate to say this, The case is fucking good. Yeah,
he's great, it is.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's good for the fact, but but for the fact
that on national television he agreed to the open marriage.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, but under certain constraints, like not having an emotional
relationship with Matt and that obviously was broken.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yeah that's true. Uh, that's true. So yeah, like we
have this like this back and forth and then she's
like oohoo math ginal mad and then that's the end
of that. So we're the next episode what happens with them?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (44:41):
So moving on, we have got uh Brandon and Julia.
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
So basically it starts off with she's cutting his hair,
which is, you know, not a bad cut and especially
not for that price.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Honey free. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. It was intimate.
I was like, oh, okay, they like each other again.
I mean yeah, it's like I don't think. If you
really think about it, I can see someone learning how
to cut men's hair. I won't do it. You know,
I won't even cut my own hair. I'm I'm afraid to.
I can't. Well, you can't cut your own hair. It's

(45:16):
like heart back there. How would you get an even.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Chop unless you're like shit, yeah, yeah, I mean obviously,
I mean I shaved my legs.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know, I can't save anything. You believe me. It
doesn't only grow back fun but god blass, so.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Knowing parents, and the crux of the scene is that
they get to tell his parents, who've already known that
this was on an option on the front, that they
are going to in fact do the thing they've already
told them they're going to like do.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
And so for them to have, by the way, such
a fucking big reaction is comical. But here we are.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
So they're like, hi guys, hi kids to the dogs,
our grandkids.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
You know, it's like so obnoxious.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
And then you know, basically Brandon's like, guess what, mom
and dad, We're going to Europe. You know, you're just
like we've seen this, like yeah, every time every time
they'd agree to something, he brings his parents over and
then they perform like a sketch in front of Julia,
where then Julia is forced to take the committee and

(46:22):
plays and sketch improv sketches theme of they know what's best,
and she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, And sometimes I wish that she would just stay silent,
Like sometimes I wish that she wouldn't give in what
if this time? She just stood back and looked at
Brandon the whole time, even when they were like, Julia,
what do you have to say? And She's like me
Brandon and just stared at him, and this refused to
engage in a conversation where she acknowledges that Betty and

(46:53):
Ron should have some kind of say and what they
do with their money.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I love I love that. I love that so much.
I just like would add one cherry on the top.
So it's like if Julia knew this moment was about
to happen, and he like, Brandon's like, oh, before we
go or my parents a gonna come over, We're gonna
stop and say hi.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
She's like, oh, fuck, this asshole, I know what this is.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Then I'd be like She's like, oh, Brandon's so bad,
I'm going to make tea.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I don't mind saying that I can.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
And then so then you could just like have your tea,
have that whole thing happen. And then when you know
they're just like that, she could just be like and
then just like fucking daggers. Yeah, just stare at him,
just waiting to see what this fucking assholes going. Yeah,
and I mean look at him in a way that's
like I will tear your face off the moment they

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exit this door, and that'll be after I've thrown this
hot tea all over your body.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Like you know, you're just like yeah, or do what
I do when I'm in a meeting and I say
something and then like five minutes later, somebody asks me
the same question again and I go, oh, yeah, so
and I just say it the exact same way I
said it the first time, and like I'm just like,
that's still the answer. The answer is still I him

(48:13):
meet goal Europe for baby, Like that is what the
answer is. The answer is I want to go to
Europe with my husband and experience a little travel through
Europe before we come back and have to settle down
with ussholes. And this is what we agree to and
Brenda and I already had this conversation, so I really
don't have anything else to add, you know, like something

(48:35):
like that. Like it's just it's so crazy to me.
So anyways, does she have extensions?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yes, they're such big care At one point I was like,
is this a wig? I couldn't tell her that her
hair is so thick. Betty's a whole ass bitch. Betty
is like, if you don't feel like we are all family,
go back to Russia, is what she fucking says to Julia.
And when Julia is like, no, you guys are family,
and we're all family, but there's also the nucleus family
of me and this person, and that's the marriage family,
our fucking household, just like you guys have a fucking

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family within you guys.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
So like I hate that for her.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
I also then right after that, Betty admits that like
she's upset because she says that Julia has Brandon's ear.
And when she said that, I was like, oh, yeah,
so you're upset that Brandon takes advice now from his wife,
He takes what his wife's opinion into consideration, what more
than you? And are you also somewhat like confiding in

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us that your son has no backbone and no opinion
of his own, that he is so easily swayed by
whoever is just alloud or in his ear. And it's
just like, that's what you fears, that you knew in
your heart that your son could be gotten.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I just don't know. That's what you're saying. You raised
the wimp, and you and you thought you would control
that wimp forever and him and his wimpy wife. And
he didn't marry a wimpy wife. He did not, and
so now you have to battle her over control over
your the wimpy raised. So they get so upset about
these two people that they don't have to take care

(50:03):
of and whose money they don't have to give them
the money for it. Ron's like, I don't even know
who you are. I don't even know who raised you.
I mean they went they did a that's a deep
cut to talk about how they don't even know who
the person that they raised. And then he referred to
Brandon as having a career in pest control. Does Brandon

(50:26):
have a business? Are there hierarchies within the past control world?
Does Brandon still work in pest control? Is the question?
And like why is he not able to go to
Europe for three weeks or a month and then come
back and get another job with all of his years
of pest control, you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Like he's not good at past control, because if he was,
Betty wouldn't be around. Like it's crazy to me that.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Like they're they're acting as though like the Brandon will
never be able to find a job again, Like they're
gonna be poor and living on the form. The only
thing that those two want more than Brandon and Julia
to come over every weekend is to remove back in
so that, you know, so that they could be just
like foisted them on amongst Betty's doo dads and diddle
bumpers around that junky ass house like it is. It

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is wild to me that they had that reaction. They're
too much in their children's in Brandon's life. Brandon sinks
to the ground. He sinks to the ground, and I
look and I think to myself, Julia, why why are
you with this weak ass man? What does he do
for noodle? Wet noodle stuck to an oven? Honey?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You know what I'm saying, Like you know what you're doing,
like spaghetti and then you like you don't take it out.
Maybe you like, you know, you try a couple to
see if it was like al Dente and one like
falls from a spoon sticks to that like glass style
kind of oven like that's exactly him now, stuck there,
I mean, without any sort of sauce.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, just dry. Yeah. Julia's like, I don't care. He's
like my parents. I don't know what to do. They're
so sad my relationship with them.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
And She's like, let's fix us first, bitch, and then
we'll fix them maybe like yeah, so whatever, thank god
though she had to do this, like she I there's
a part of her watching this that I want to
I want I hope that she's celebrating because like this,
I think this was the first crack and what is
her ultimate win? You know what I'm saying. And the

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truth of the matter is once she has a baby,
there was a lot of power she gets over Betty
like and that's the truth that is that, like it
is her child, it's not Betty's child.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
And I think that, like, I hope that she gets
to wield it. You know, I don't think she will.
I think that she's gonna play her cards wrong, And
I think what's gonna happen is that Brandon's gonna continuously say, well,
my mom knows because she had me, and that's gonna
be his argument. Well, I well ask my mom because
she had me, and I'm fine, And then Julie is

(53:02):
gonna have to look at him and be like, you're
not fine. No you cry by stoves, Yeah you're not fine.
So like it that that dynamic is going to be
crazy to me is that she is she has chosen
to have a kid with a guy who does not
stick up for her, who will never have her back.
And so really we're just waiting for for Betty to

(53:22):
go on and meet him, Like Betty gotta go, Betty.
Betty needs to lay down to rest for Julia to
have any peace, or Julia's mother needs to come and
live with them for the first year of that baby's life.
That's the only way she's gonna have any support. Yeah,
Brandon is not going to do it.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah God, well, we'll see what happens. You know, my pets,
you know, but where you know, they're laying the groundwork.
I did think it was a wind though for Julia,
So I was happy that he's he did. He did
stand his ground even though he cried.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
By the stove. He sat on the ground. He sat sad.
He's sat on the ground. He's sad.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah, I mean you know, because he didn't give in.
He wasn't like you're right, yeah right, Juliet the right,
you know, like he didn't and it is hard so
good for him and his parents. Yeah, his parents really
put on like a Comedia del art taste style, like
anger about having soked it. I mean, Betty did a
whole ass turn with her head in her hands, as
if they had told her, like worth going to just

(54:29):
burn one hundred thousand dollars in a bonfire in front
of our homes because we enjoy the warmth. You know,
you're just like that's like what she heard, Like yeah,
I mean she took it so personally that I mean,
it doesn't make sense for any It didn't make any
sense for any any normal person. And specifically, if she
does that, you want someone else, like the dad, to

(54:52):
be like that's weird. I'm going to like check my wife,
you know how, kind of like sumit's parents even kind
of like the dad checked the mom, but he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
I don't know who I raised. I'm like Jesus the
guilt trip. That's toxic. They're toxic to Brandon. I told
it's some kind of Stockholm syndrome. It's some kind of
Stockholm syndrome. So yeah, they walk away and leave. It's
just such a dramatic reaction.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Then they get mad at Julia when she has dramatic
reactions and leave with her parents, Papa, well anything else, y'all.
Thank you so much for joining us. We're Doku sweety's,
but we're also separate sweeties. I'm just calling me wah
that's Chris Alfara. You can find us on our social
media's at just call me Wah or and Chris Alfara

(55:43):
social media such as Instagram. I think that's the only
one we share. Otherwise, you can find me on Facebook, TikTok.
And we're both on YouTube. Oh yeah yeah, sorry, both
on YouTube too, so yeah, you can find us. We're
both doing toe. Chris is doing sister wives. I'm doing
Seeking sister wife. Uh, and like's seeking sister wife.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Oh that makes sense for some reason, the whole time
I thought I was seeking sister what seeking sister wife?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, seeking sister wife and Uh, yeah, you're
both doing Love is Blind? Are we all doing Love
is Blind?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah? And I'm going to yeah and I yeah, so
that's what's happening right now. And then we also yeah,
that's great. Mm hmmm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
One thing I wanted to ask you if you saw
an audience, did you see this? Did you see that?
On Netflix? There is a Biggest Loser documentary commentary? Uh? Yes,
I did see that.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
I also like half watched the Lilith Fair documentary, which
was a big deal for me.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
I love with that music so much. So those are
two documentaries you guys can watch. Also, Yeah, like add
no On and Tiger Lily are back.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
And by the way, they're like most hated number one enemy,
like he now is like being anti Semitic or whatever,
like horribly, Like you know, they are like troll against trolls.
If you follow them, you should not follow them. Like
I think that they're like you know, like they're they're bad,
they're bad people, and I feel like they're putting out
I don't know you, do you, but I think that
at some point if you're just trolling for looks and

(57:13):
likes and you have no problem putting.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Out absolute trash and hate. Fuck you. I don't want
that in the world. Were they this season of Happily
ever After and we just stopped seeing them after she
had the baby? Yeah, but also I saw that they
broke up.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
They didn't that was for that was for show. That's
for literally Instagram, like Instagram algorithm shit, just like uh
nick nick NICKI, Nicole of like Nicole and mah Ozma.
I'm you know what I'm talking about, Oh lady, Yeah,

(57:54):
that lady. Like I don't if you know this, but
like her Instagram became literal shots of her being like
like shots of her with baby May with like a
deaf thing over her face, being like tragic news and
like just to get you to click on something that
would be like not but like you like would always
hint at her own death or some weird shit like that.

(58:14):
Like it's like the devil's work, you know what I'm saying,
Like this is I really want to fight against that.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
This kind of like blatant. This is so nefarious to me.
I don't know what the word is.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Like it's like the Internet nefarious behavior where it's just hateful, sinister, villainous.
It's just it's so obvious A and then also sad
and I think like indicative of something that makes me
really depressed about humanity.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, and on a bad note, but yeah, it's just sad,
I guess. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so follow us in
our perspective social media as you, guys, a lot of
content coming your way. We'll see you next week talking
about ninety day fiance Happily ever After, and I'm sure
it will be another dumb title, but otherwise we'll talk
to you later. Oh, Chris, do you want to say anything? Okay, bye, bye,