July 2, 2025 • 52 mins
Wherein the future of #MomTok is hanging by a thread when the girls are put to the ultimate test of loyalty, leading to goodbyes for good. A fresh scandal explodes when a jaw-dropping secret comes to light. Will the truth set #MomTok free?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Sweete Hey everyone, I'm wa.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And I'm Chris. Welcome the docu Sweeties.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're too, longtime friends who discussed the rivoting and sometimes
trashy world of reality TV and docuseries.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yes, but through our own lens, which sometimes is getting
business done and buy the book and sometimes Lucy goose
but at the end of the day, hopefully mildly sweet. Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, so we're talking to you about the secret
lives of Mormon Wives, season two, episode ten, The Book
of Salvation. You guys, the heell all or the reunion
is happening either July first or July second, and I'm
so excited for it. Yes, yeah, Oh, I'm so excited for.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It because you sent me a TikTok. Because, as we know,
the world moves very fast, and especially in the world
of reality shows and especially in the world of girl drama.
So listen, we've gone on the journey now of episode
ten one to ten season two. We know obviously what
the fuck's up, and we know that this entire five
(01:17):
episode arc at least has been Demi angling for Queen
Bee against Taylor. And so we're going to go into
this episode and then we'll talk about some of the
recent oop dots dats, which is German for okay, Oh okay, great,
that's a real thing. Mm hmmm wait can I show
(01:39):
the people? This is? Can I show the people? Maybe
this is for Patreon? But whatever what you want, honey,
she is in the Chelsea. That's her staying that. That's her,
Like did you see her window? And it's all like
kind of grows, but do you see the that's a
building next door with a fire escape, perhaps made from brick.
(02:00):
Do you see that? Anyway, I'm in a different space.
We can't see it, all right, Sorry you cannot. We
can see it, okay, because you had no no reactions.
I just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh I was supposed to have a reaction. I thought
you were talking to Patreon.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So there's I mean, there's no one here. It's for
you in this very moment.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So like, oh, oh my god, look at that's so cute. Yes,
the bricks, very New York City. Oh wow, Chris, I'm
so happy for you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Okay, So we start off with Layla because she is
the little shitster for the last you know, five episodes
H And she visits Taylor and she brings her some
beignet mix from Louisiana because Taylor did sr it's Cafe Dumont.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Obviously, listen, I told us already. It's the Everyone knows
this box. It is golden, golden like orange and then
white as it goes into sorry as it goes into
the like specific branding of obviously Cafe Dumont, which is
(03:14):
where they went for the begnets. Everyone has gotten this
box at one point and no one actually makes it,
which I've already said that before, but it's true. It's
like one of those kitchy souvenir things where you're like,
I got to take this home, but like, are you
going to fry dough like in hot oil with one
of those like metal spatulas and then pick it up,
(03:38):
put it on a paper towel, and then later on
procure powdered sugar, put it all over it. Like is
that what your life's gonna be? Like? I mean, you
think it is, but it's not. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You're you're right, because here's the truth. I have almost
every kitchen gadget except for that. And I still think
about getting a deep frier because it would be very
easy for me if I have had some friends over
to like fry some chicken in a deep fryer the
same way one would fry a beignet. So like I
have a crock pot right now, I've got some chicken
in a car pot. It's on low for four hours.
(04:11):
I have a toaster, which I'd never use. I have
two coffee makers. I have two like hot water boilers
for tea. I have almost every kitchen gadget except for
you know what I don't have if it's a potato smasher,
which I think I have to get today because I
think I want to make some, but I get it.
So if I had a bigger kitchen, though, like the
kitchen of my dreams, would I have that? Yes? And
(04:32):
I think you would too, if you had the kitchen
of your dreams with all the pantry and cabinets. Yes,
you like, think about the kitchen or to Mecula. Think
about the kitchen into Mecula. How there's that one. There's
two different stuff it, there's two different pantry spaces right
that you could put things in and if you had it,
(04:54):
then you would put those things in every single and
you would have that. You would have that so that
when you went to Louisiana and you bought that box,
you could actually in fact, deep fry Abigne, there we go.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
A lot of things have to happen to get there.
And is Taylor going to do it?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Is Taylor going to Taylor?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah? Do you remember this is five minutes in first
episode or sorry, we're talking about sir Les more wives
first thing, so obviously she's.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
There with the Mormon wives, is what I heard. We're
talking about Sir Les and Mormon wives like.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You called it more Moron wives, which I thought it
was so funny, so so sorry, Layla is there with
the beignet mix as also like a little sorry. I
don't ever stick up for you. I have absolutely no backbone.
At the same time, I don't expect Layla to do anything,
like I'm not looking at Layla to like defend Taylor.
(05:50):
It's just like I don't care. I don't want her
to do it, like I don't need her to do it,
Like I don't even look at like how do she
can't even get her boyfriend to go to like one
of the events. You know what I'm saying, She like
can have an orgasm. She's dating Benji's cousin or not,
and he goes to one or two things, and he
like won't go to events with her. I feel so bad.
I feel like she listen, I just don't expect her
(06:10):
to like fight fight Taylor's fights, and you know it's
really Taylor. Like Taylor's don't really mad at her. She
like she brings it up. But also Taylor has no friends,
so she needs not only Layla, but I mean maybe
she needs the dynamics. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thank you for that hot take, Chris. So Layla feels
bad for not sticking up for Taylor at the Sins
and Saner party since and Saints and Center party and
is tired of.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sensibility party is what I wish it was. What if
it was a Jane Austen Sense and Sensibility party?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's not anyway, Yeah, that would probably be more along
the lines of Mormon is Sense and Sensibility.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I know what the Austin cosplay. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I have this video that I need to send to
you from TikTok. It basically explains like the origins of
Mormon and so that we will have very very like
specific knowledge of the church.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Okay, it's the account doing it. Are an ex Mormon
or a Mormon ex Mormon.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, And so Taylor's you know, it's like, I didn't
go because she felt alone at the Sin since Saints
and Sinner party, and she didn't want to feel that again.
So Taylor, uh, Leila ends up just telling Taylor about
Demi's ultimatum, and then Leanne knocks on the door and
walks in. So now it is Leanne, Taylor, and Layla
(07:36):
and they are talking about what happened, and Leanne goes
into mom mode at this time, even though she doesn't
go into mom mode when her husband's around. But you know,
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I feel like there must be some sort of clause
in Lianne's contract where she gets paid every time she's
in a scene. And so like Taylor and her were
like oppy in every scene because mommy gets to have money. Okay,
because mommy gets then he okay Taylor, and Taylor's like,
oh fine, you know a little bit, but like, honestly,
this goes into season three, Hulu, listen to me, just play,
pay her a blanket sum and then never put her
(08:11):
on the fucking call list.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, well you have strong feelings about that. So then
you know, Taylor's like, well that makes it awkward because
she's hosting the mom Talk Christmas party. And Layla's like, oh, girl,
I don't think you're invited to.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's more for you because you wouldn't be there to
make it awkward, babe, And she's yeah. She's like like
uh why.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Taylor's like very confused as to why she's not going,
and She's like, well, to me, probably doesn't want you there.
And then Taylor's like, well, then why does she invite me?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Layla's like, well, I.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Think she may have accidentally that she didn't realize that
you were in that group thread, so and I'm like,
this is awkward. This is that whole exchange was very
very weird. I would be so if I were Tailor
for whatever reason, I don't know why, but I would
shoot the messenger. I would be mad at Laila.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Why that does make I wouldn't. I wouldn't that just
got Benet's honey. No. I would just be like I
just feel bad for Laila with that one, like stuck
extension in the back of her head. Honey, I'll just
like that was like episode one for this season, Like
you know, they just did here so wrong. I just
feel like, you know, you know what.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I think it's because it goes back to what I
originally said. If you were my friend and you do
not stick up for me when I'm not around and
you hear somebody talking shit and you just come back
and tell me what happened, I don't think you're my friend.
I think that you're just a shitster and you're somebody
that wants to be like in the mix and or
a coward, and like I cannot be friends with that person, Like, oh,
(09:48):
you're not my friend, coward, you can't. You're you're not
my friend, Like you're not somebody that I can truly
count on. And when you're in a large group of friends,
like a group, like a large group, that makes it
even worse. Like I think maybe I could be a
friend with a coward one on one, but like I
could not if we were in a group setting. Does
that make sense, I have any groups of friends, Like
(10:10):
I don't have a group of friends. I don't have
there's there's no my neighbors are maybe my biggest group
of friends. And even then I'm in the chat like okay,
so no one's gonna respond to me, and they're like, whah,
we are busy, and I'm like, you're not busy. You
saw my text. And they come front me brunch and shit,
they're like you get so upset and I'm like, I
don't know, because I think you kids are talking about me.
(10:31):
That's why she's like, we're not talking about you. I
was like, fine, just girl politics from my younger years
have scarred me.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean, it's a lot of girl politics in my show.
Like it's like, you know, this could be a weird
master class if that was at all super real.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So because Leanne then says that she's planning on crashing
the party for Taylor, and then Taylor's like, listen, if
you want to push me out, you're just gonna have
to say it to my face. But Taylor has decided
I'm not going so.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right, No, no, I.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Didn't understand what you said. Say it again my mom's face.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh okay, sorry, sorry, I'm I'm using this, Mike. I'm sorry.
Maybe I'm in and out a little bit just playing
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So then we have the excess party the Christmas card.
Do you want to talk about that? And how what?
Like everyone's yes, honey, oh the Christmas party. First of all, Demi.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Does look truly really beautiful, but she must have drag
makeup on in such a way because there's a lot
of like highlight in this area, and she so much
so that her own friends are like, bitch, who are you? Like?
Who who am I looking at? Like you don't look
(11:50):
like yourself? Like who are you like? You know, but
she doesn't he like. I don't know if it's her
lipstick or you know, it's not really her hair, it's whatever.
I think it's just this light and so truly she
looks she's overdone. But that's her party. I love what
Mikayla is wearing, which is just this kind of demure
red dress and this white cream faux for you know,
(12:14):
this is Utah. So what it's Christmas time. They get
to do things I don't get to do. You know
that involves like real cold shit, you know, cold climate stuff,
which is so great for Christmas. So it's a lot
of faux firs and everyone looks really you know, obviously
put together. That's another thing that these girls do. I
will give it to them that they dress up like
(12:38):
their two looks are dressed the fuck up or I
mean just woke up and like you know, athleisure wear.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Maybe that's the bipoliary. It's like, look, do you understand
how fucking long it takes me to get my hair done?
Put the extensions and I have to curl the extensions,
bun the extensions. I have to put my makeup on.
I have to you know, like the serums, the cold treatment,
and then you know like put it all on, lend
it all well, put the eyelashes on. It's like four
hours or nothing. That's what I have for you. So like,
(13:08):
you know, it's a I yeah to say about that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Four hours or nothing is four hours or bus is
like is like hilarious. Uh So then Leila like goes out.
They all go out to look at the view and
then they're all off there and they're all on their
fauf furs and Leilah she gets stuck in the deck
and she like falls and they're like, we got to
go back. It's too cold out here. So it's cold.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Where's her dude? And no one talks about it right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, you know, I don't cent her mend so
like I don't care where he's at. I don't think
about it, and I learn about it like I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right right, they're just all you know why I bring
it up because like they're kind of all there with
their coops bad but.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They always are like that is what they do, and
it's annoying for me.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know. It's like you're they're either like momming it
up and girling it up or it's just like you know,
doude DoD dude, dude or whatever. And yeah, I just
feel like feel bad for her anyway. So also remember
when you have that faux further we loved so much.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't have it anymore. Oh the one from a
long time ago, the like stole with the like one
little thing here, the CARDI b one. Oh god, I've
had so many. Yeah, you're right. Either my friend bought
me one from Banana Public, like in the early aughts,
Bahana Public. H wait, Banana republic. Did you know that
(14:29):
a banana republic is an actual like political term or
like a term for a country. Yeah, yeah, it's fucked
up anyways, So got that, And then I also had
that big one for that one New Year's at Morgan's house. Yeah,
you're right, I did have that Cardi B one at
two Cardi B's.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wait, I just had a blast in the past because
I was thinking about your right of that. But do
you remember you're not at Colors of Benenton but Benetton
because and yeah, I forgot about that until just now.
But when I was talking about Bana Republic, obviously we're
talking about mat Republic, and we were talking about like
what could be a political tie. But and then I
remember United Colors of Beneton because it was basically like
a version of the Michael Jackson Black and White video
(15:09):
where it was just like she's black, she's white. It
was just like a different people Like it was just
like there was just like all the different ethnicities United
Colors of benettin I have no idea what Benetton was
or what they meant, or where that place went or
who owned that place. I feel like Prince Charles, does
you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like they were trying to be inclusive at a time
when nobody else was trying to be inclusive, but they
really weren't. It was it was just skinny people. And
then I have I have a fur now and it's
not it's not like it's an it's cheerling, so it's
lamb or I don't know, cheerling. So it didn't kid
didn't kill the animal.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
To make it.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And that's cute.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, So yes, do I do I have faux fur
or fur that is not mink or endangered species? Yes?
And do I bust it out every year? Absolutely? And
while I wear it for Chriss this year, yes and
next year yes. Do I want a red one yes?
Don't want a black one?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So you know these are all things. I have a
cream that's the one I have right now.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh sorry, I went cream.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So AnyWho they she gonna go on the inside. And Tom,
who you know was married in the temple, is like,
does anyone want champagne? For those who want it? And
two are like, we're pregnant, and then Whitney's like, I'm Mormon,
so no.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, but so bad to be.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And whoever is else, Leila, I think that's who's left
drink the champagne and their their their husbands or whatever.
So cheers to another year of surviving mom talk and
so they're all there and the you know, pregnant girls
are hungry and looking for all the things that can eat.
And I was like, I'm hungry too, girl, I'm not pregnant.
I'm hungry too. I want to know what you guys are.
(16:50):
And then Leanne comes. She comes in not dressed for
the occasion. Leanne never looks nice to me, Like, she
never looks like she's dressed appropriate. I was like, this
is a Christmas and you came in like jeans and
like for it just didn't look good.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Leanne rolls in, honey, like she's an extra from like
Roseanne from the nineteen eighties. I mean, you know, it
is like Midwest to a test, honey, you know, like
it's specific. And the reason why I bring it up
is for the following reasons. A. You're on a television show. B.
This is a Christmas party. See why go why make
(17:26):
an end Like I don't even quite understand what her
endgame is like At first, you think that it's gonna
be like, deliver this, she has a big present, say
something mean or look fabulous or whatever. Because but Leanne
in the past has made weird, I mean, made a
lot of weird decisions mostly and notably calling people that
(17:49):
aren't at events. And now she's showing up at an
event that her daughter is not at. You know what
I'm saying. It's like, now, granted, yes she wants to
be on the show, and you know PU users are there,
but even then, with the face lifts and everything, I'd
be like, bitch, why are you not dressing the fuck up?
Like what only for your own benefit? Like why walk
(18:11):
into this mom talk you're not invited to with a
bunch of like badass biddies to like what plead your
weird case? You know, and just like I don't know,
without any sort of spectacle or like fun or any
sort of like revenge if she came looking hot again,
remember this whole season she had a face lift, so
(18:31):
like she could come in, you know, guns blazing, you know,
with the titties up and the makeup on, and like
show DEMI you know, like you know how to wear
a red lip? I don't know, but she doesn't. I'm
mad at it. And it's because and again, I don't
want women to think that they have to like showcase
their beauty. I'm not saying that, but she does because
(18:52):
of everything that she said to her daughter, because because
she's just like Whitney, they're like the most handmaiden made
as of this cast. So I don't mind giving her
some shit because she is lost in the fucking sauce.
So if she's going to like tell her daughter, you
know that like her you know, slept, shame her daughter,
then yeah, Leanne, get that facelift and come showing, like,
(19:15):
come showing something because he looks trashy. Yeah, it's it
didn't it didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It didn't look good. But she came in with this
giant as present and Demi's like, Hi, what are you
doing here? And She's just like yeah, I mean I'm
here because Taylor wasn't invited and I thought there should
be a representation of Taylor's energy here. And so she's like, well,
do you want to talk? And Leanne's like yeah. So
they go and they send on the couch and talk
and let me tell you, Layla, Macey and Michayla are
(19:44):
just like and so it was Whitney okay. So then first,
you know, they talk about the cmas and Leanne is
just like, listen, I get that. You know, Taylor may
have come off as like whatever, but she did it.
It was petty. And the way they petty is like
petty doesn't actually mean anything. It's like the word like
(20:04):
people can be petty, and that's okay for me, it's
not necessarily I'm like, petty is like I don't want
to be friends with you. You're gonna be fucking petty.
But she's like she was just being petty, So like
just let it go, because you know, being petty is fine.
And so you know, Leanne tries to defend Tay's caddy
behavior and the other girls are just like just soaking
(20:26):
in all the drama. And then Leanne's like, well, it
does seem like you want to be Queen Bee. And
then Demi's like, well, when Dakota is telling me and
my husband all these things, and you know, I think
Taylor just needs to honestly get her house in order.
And I was like, oh, so, I'm really glad that
Leanne was able to hear that Dakota is not the
(20:49):
angel and not the person worthy of redemption that her
and her husband seemed to think that he is, because
he's actually going behind Taylor's back talking to other members
of Mom Talk and telling their business. And so then
Taylor is being judged by de me heavily because of
Dakota's reaching out and like doing whatever. So it's just
(21:09):
like messy in that in that kind of place. And
then Whitney walks over and she's like, Hi, are you
guys okay? And so Whitney tries to be on Demi's
side and just talk about.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Her daughter's a cunt. She just didn't know that. Yeah,
we all hate your daughter. Just listen real close to
this when she when I say she's done not a
thing for not a person here except drain us. Literally,
she's just a constant drama ball. We have to text
all the time to make sure she's good or just
walking on eggshells. You meytimes she's texted us, not never,
(21:44):
not never. And then Lianne does take that in because
I think that she knows it's the truth, because I
also think that Leanne in her mind she was also like, oh,
she doesn't have to text you. She's the queen. Mm hm,
oh yeah, you're all paying your text sure, Yeah, you
have to pay your tax, Yeah, she doesn't pay. Her
task is to you. You know what I'm saying, like,
(22:05):
pay your tax to Caesar. That's what they say in
the book. And I don't know, like Liane's you know,
like I feel like Leanne's mind's going in a batshit
crazy place. We can't even like truly know, which I
wish we had.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, because Leanne is just like, well, well, you know,
Taylor is going through a lot right now. She's a
single mom, and you know, we would love to hope
that her friends would support her. And Demi's like, well,
I've been a single mom and as well and gone
through similar issues. And then we hear like Macey or
Mikayla in the back. They're like, no, Jesse, I forgot
(22:37):
Jesse's there. Jesse's like, did she just say she's a
single mom? Jesse was like a single mom for a month.
We're like, oh, Shade. So everyone's just kind of eavesdropping
and listening and feeling mildly uncomfortable but loving it at
the same time. And She's like, I've texted her over
thirty times and she hasn't done that for me at all,
(22:59):
nor has she checked in with the group. And I
just think to myself, you guys know that this bitch
was caught in a scandal. Got pregnant, got arrested, had
a baby, like did a sign a deal to be
on a show, film the show, then like is now
dealing with the fallout of her family yelling at her
(23:20):
and like doing all this shit, she is going fucking
through it. You want her to wet chat in the
group and say hello, Like, no, I'm telling you right now,
I whenever I'm going through it, I'm not chatting in
any group. I'll see it, but I can't respond because
I can't engage, Like I'm tired, I'm sleepy, I'm going
through it mentally, and I just don't have the time
to like engage with you. And this woman has three kids,
(23:44):
she doesn't have a stable partner, and that partner she's
worried about. She's in therapy with none of the other
girls are going through the same shit that she's going through,
and for them to even be like, we checked in
on her, but she also isn't checking in on us.
So Leanne just realizes that there's no nothing she can say,
so she starts to cry, and then she's like, you know,
(24:06):
when Taylor was in the deepest part and darkest part
of her life, Like, you guys all disowned her, and
then Demi's like, I'm so sick of Taylor getting a
pass because whatever she's going through is hard. It's like,
welcome to the real world, Tailor. It sucked for us too,
like stop posting online. She's not the victim here. And
I was like, you said all of that to that
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woman's mother. And then that's when the group on the
other side is like turns against her. They're like, I
cannot believe that she's yelling at Leanne. That's so disrespectful.
And this is the first time I have ever honestly
heard like in any white culture where like yelling at
your elders is disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So I was like, oh, I like that. Yeah, I
mean I also, yeah, I understand. Also, these girls, I
don't know if all of them did, but I'm assuming
they've known each other's families, the ones that are been
Mormon for like a hot ass minute, for you know,
hot ass minute, just because oh, like you know, for
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them to all say that weird prayer and stuff like that,
I'm assuming that there were like classes when they were
thirteen that the girl like you know, well, they looked
over Whitney was like there with her, like you know,
toe head and she was like, is that DEMI? I mean,
I don't know. I'm assuming that they've had moments together,
their moms know each other and stuff like that. I'm
assuming there's like Mormon women's leagues where you done into
(25:26):
boops and bacon. They bake all the time. So that's
the fact. The fact that there are bakers makes me
think that they're coming together to share their bacon and
not be not be acn although I would love bacon,
but the baking that they baked, so anyway, So yeah, Also,
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Santa Enter is perfect timing. They're like dying over the
fact that Santa Enter's like oh ho ho. They're like
me just kidding, ha ha ha. And then there's fake
snow and like the way it happens is like bread
like it happens, and Brett's excuse me, ladies, I'm so
sorry to break up this scene. The fake snow is
(26:07):
happening outside, which is like annoying because they literally live
in a place with real snow, like but there's just
not real snow in that moment, Like sure in California
at the Grove of Honey, we have to do that shit,
and it's like that foamy kind of stuff. But like
you know what we get nothing. You know, like this
is Utah. You're in fake fur, like you know, just
like can't you just look at the look at the
(26:27):
weather ahead of time and film when you know there's
gonna be some snow, go ahead walk. Well.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The thing is, though, I'm gonna tell you about snow.
It is magical when it's on a movie set. It's
magical when it's fake. But when it's real and you're
outside walking in snow, it is not magical. It is
it is like, oh shit, it's snowing, Like I wonder
how Like it's gonna show three inches, let's go home,
like it is like people have to disperse because then
wherever you are, if you have driven there your car,
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you're gonna have to shovel your car out of the snow.
Like it's not it's magical until it becomes not magical.
It's wonderful if you're in a space where you don't
have to leave, and then the next morning you do
have to shovel and get that snow out of your know.
So I get it. I get that it does snow
in Utah, but maybe it doesn't snow in the way
that they want it on Christmas and all that jazz.
(27:17):
After living in a place where I've had a white Christmas,
like a true one, even New York it's a white Christmas.
Let me tell you. In Minnesota, girl, it is a
why he take Christmas?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay? It is white and.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Beautiful and like, no, why, I don't know how you
say that? Yeah, yeah, it's very much that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So I can see them wanting to make that happen
because if it actually was snowing, everyone would be like, oh,
we got to go home. The roads are treacherous.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Don't take away from me. I don't like get it.
So then the open tailors get and I am telling
you right now, I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well it wasn't though it was because it was one
of the.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Uh what does that think?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What am I trying to say? Sponsorships that Demi wasn't on.
Do you remember Demi got like weird with with Laila
about being going to New York City with Taylor. So
it's like Taylor, Laila and Jen went to New York
City to film a sponsorship for a makeup brand, and
that's what it was. And because Demi was so like welcome,
(28:31):
She's like, oh, here you go, babes, here's some some products.
And I thought, Taylor, God, you're so petty and fucking brilliant.
I thought it was great because we don't know because
they didn't show it in the show. But if you're
watching them on TikTok and you like follow like what's
going on outside of it in conjunction with the show,
you know how.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Shady it was. Okay, maybe I guess my mind. They
set up certain things. They set up the set, like
they set up the fact that maybe Brett cheated not
before in one of his other situations, or maybe there's
some shady business deals or like whatnot. And or obviously
they set up Demi maybe cheating on him with the
people from Billy Philip. I just wish it was something
(29:13):
a little more like, hey, bitch, if you're going to
talk shit about me in a way that might ruin
my life, then you better know that I can easily vary,
like I want that kind of gift anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Okay, So Miranda then leaves, and then the girls decide
that they need to have a Who's an Miranda? Sorry,
so Miranda leaves, Well, Lanne does leave, but Miranda leaves
then and they decide that they're going to have a
conversation about who's in or who's out. And then there's
this dumb scene with like Macy and her ex in laws,
(29:52):
and then there's another dumb scene with Dakota and Leanne
and they talk, and then there's another stupid scene where
Macy and Jessie talk and she doesn't have any cancer,
so that's really great. It's at her business, jay Z
Styles or whatever, and they're sitting amongst the like hair
hair extensions where they talk about that. So then we
(30:16):
move on to a great scene where it's Jesse and
she has decided to host the mom Talk conversation at
her home and so, uh, you know, everybody starts to
arrive and then they're like, oh, Taylor's finally here and
she's like, when am I not late? You guys, Like
I'm late. I'm like at this Pitch has three kids
and like she's doing it on her own with her
family and like driving around having her like iced diet
(30:37):
coke and like in her bag, you know, her handbag
that you I don't know the name of, Girard, Girardo, what.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Is it called. First of all, she's not do you
think she's doing it by herself. Do you know how
much money she's making?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, I mean when I say doing it by herself,
like she could have help, but like, hmmm, I don't
know that she has like Mariah Carey level help. Like
when I think of people who have like help, I
think of someone who like has somebody come in and
be like, Okay, it's it's nine. You need to start
getting ready. The makeup person's here, Like, I don't think
that's happening for Taylor. You can have a nanny, you
(31:09):
can have a housekeeper, you can have people around you
doing things, but that still doesn't mean that you are
on time for things or you understand, like you know,
I have to get ready now, I have to do this.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't know. Oh god, I wish I was Maria
carry Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like Mariah Carey fully has somebody that's like
Mariah walk from this room to the next room. She's like, okay,
Like I think that she has somebody because I saw
an interview with her. She's like, I don't I don't
understand time. She's like, I don't have people. I don't
manage time. I have people who make for me and
so Yeah, she definitely has some folks that are just
(31:48):
like coming in telling her what to do, when to move,
and how much time she has and giving her, you know,
five minutes. She's like, thank you five. Uh So, so
we find out that Taylor and de Me have not
talked since the Saints and Center, which is crazy because
there's been a lot of filming that's happened since Saints
and Center and they have not spoken at all. So
(32:09):
in the meeting, we've got Whitney like, Whitney's like, is
this even a business anymore? Because we do not meet
up and post together. And then they start to talk
about like what the business looks like, and I'm like,
you guys don't need to meet up and talk anymore
and do chiktoks anymore? Why because you have a reality
(32:31):
show and the individual tiktoks you do with each other
are great. I don't, like, I personally don't need to
see something where you guys are.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Like in a circle and walking do It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And then the next person comes in. I'm gonna tell
you right now, when I see Whitney's tiktoks, she loves
to like shake her like mid section, like rigorously. If
you guys aren't Patreon, you'll see this.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
This is what she.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
She loves to do this, and then she she thinks
she's so good at it. She's always like, oh yeah, yeah,
he fucking loves doing it. Like she feels her baddest,
her sexiest, her most hip hopist.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
In that moment. Yeah, it's like cheer. It has to
be like from a cheer in like the two thousands.
It just feels so like cheer, you know, like dud
da da duh. You know, because you can do once
you've mastered this, you can do it a couple of times,
you know you can, and then you can Yeah, you
can go into a body roll. There's a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
She loves it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You can. Here's the thing. I've always been much better
at a body roll that kind of stuff than I
would ever obviously can't tork at all. It's unfortunate, and
I'm so mad about it think about all the time.
But like I can definitely do a pretty good fucking
body roll, like, you know, like I can really get
in there and like, you know, like isolate things like
I'm isolate later in that kind of way. And I
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think that unfortunately, Whitney's probably the same. I actually think
that Whitney probably could work better than I could. I'm
carrying Mikayla is the one that can really to work, Like,
Michayla could work better than you think. Anyone who's like,
how does Princess Tiana say this? That's how I say
it kind of person would just suddenly be like, oh,
for some reason, I will full fucking ass and I
can shake it like I've been trying.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Mm hmm. She has that good isolation and motion in
the ocean. It's like water back there. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah.
So then they start to talk about like who wants
people in, who wants people out? Taylor votes for Miranda
to not be in because she feels like Taylor Amranda's
just coming in at a most convenient time, which is true.
(34:48):
Taylor says that you know, she had Whitney's back when
Whitney when people were voting Whitney out or didn't didn't
know what was going on and no one else did.
So she's like, so it's fine or whatever. I can
be cordial to Whitney, and Mikayla feels the same. Mikayla's like, listen,
I've had to have two vacations now with Whitney, and
(35:10):
while I haven't been happy about it, it's been fine.
So I can I can ignore her and it'll be
it's okay. So Whitney's back in and she's very happy
for it.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Taylor, God, I mean, she fucking smiles at the goddamn grinch. Honey.
I mean, Whitney couldn't be Whitney came in that moment
so hard, h but she was like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And so then Taylor is also like, but for DEMI like,
it's you know, it's a no for me, and uh
then to me, to me gets so her reaction is
so like guttural. She's like, we're not fucking voting on me.
You're so fucking weird. I've been in mom ti like,
and she's like, uh, we've I've been in mom talk
(36:01):
and we are not voting on people who were already in.
And she's like, I never said vote. I said, I
can't be cordial with you, cordial. I can't be cordial
with you like I am saying. I could be cordial
with Whitney if she's back in, But for me, it's
a no dog for you, like and she's like, oh,
I thought you were. She's like projection She's like, I'm
(36:23):
not projectioning. I just thought that you were saying.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No, But to me, you just said, if Taylor's in,
you're out, so be out, babe.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Also to me, you sure know in your heart of
hearts that if Taylor doesn't want you there, she can
vote you out. Like, Demi got so mad because I
think that her biggest fear happened that Taylor does looked
at her and was like, not you anymore? And then
I think that here's the problem is Demi really thought
(36:54):
that all the other girls would be like, fuck you, Taylor,
aren't you Queen Demi? Damny Demi, Demi. However you say it,
We're into it, you know what I'm saying. And uh,
none of those girls, not even her best friend. She like,
she didn't plan this at all. Well, and I think
it's because she planned it with Brett, and Brett just
(37:18):
sat there and told her a bunch of shit like yeah,
you know, because like Tilly doesn't. But she didn't plan
this with one of the girls, like she didn't plan
it with Whitney. Some girls Kim and wend knowing about
how power it is. But Whitney is gonna drop Demi
in a minute. If Demi was not a mom talk,
I think Whitney would be like two shits, no, you
know what I'm saying. Like, so it's it's like, that's
why I think it's so funny, Like she planned, I think,
(37:40):
to take over this with her husband, who was like,
let's do it for whatever money or we because we
think you're the best, and it's just all across the board. Stupid.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, she made she made the wrong choice, and Jesse
actually says that. Jesse ends up saying later on that
she's like the reason why I guess I kind of
got caught up into me is because Demi speaks like
a therapist and she speaks in such a commanding way
that you think, oh, she knows what she's talking about,
so she must be right. But the truth is is
like when you really think about it, she's not right.
(38:13):
And she doesn't take critician very well because she thinks
that she knows things because of her husband and the
fact that she even puts things on her TikTok where
it's like, well, I married the most eligible bachelor in town,
like she's really happy to have married Brett because Brett
used to be married to somebody who was on a
(38:33):
reality show, so like she feels very much like cool
because she's a part of that world. But it's like, no,
you're not going to turn secret lives of Mormon wives
into whatever real housewives of blankety blank. Like secret Lives
of Mormon wives needs to be what it is, and
(38:53):
it's called what it is because of Taylor and her
secret life. What's your secret life that you can't have
children which is terrible, or which is you're having fertility
at choose horrible, But like that's not the secret. No
one else like it feels like based on the in
the end of this season that Jesse is now going
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to have the most like drama and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
So yep, yep, yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I
also feel like you had a secret life of Alex
mac as me makes me think about it all the time.
We'll say one more thing. It's just it's interesting again
because Demi married a whole as old ass man, right,
like a whole old man. I mean he's not that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Old, he's only forty eight seven or forty eight, But
for her who's thirty one.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, of course for her her for you know, all
I'm saying is from what I assuming with their like
traditional gender roles and all that stuff in the patriarchal
system they live in, Like why is Brett and Demi
acting like they're fucking starving artists? Like why are they
like acting like beggars, like we don't have enough money,
(40:01):
We don't do un through this, you know, like they're
acting like he is poor and almost as if there's
like financial trouble looming. We don't even know about that.
They're trying to get their like shit in a row.
And all I'm saying, doesn't that suck for like a
young girl to like marry like an old guy who's broke.
(40:25):
It makes you like do all of this shit ruin
your friend group just to get more money because he's
so broke. Like what would have been great is I'm
assuming to marry someone who's older, wiser, comfortable, secure, stable,
that kind of shit where you don't have to fuck
everything up in your life because that person is financially secure.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I don't even think it has anything to do with
whether or not he has money or not. I just
think it's people who have money tend to be kind
of gravelicious when it comes to the procurement and the
keeping of it, depending on what their backgrounds are. Right,
we don't know. I don't know how Demi grew up.
Maybe she did grow up, and so now she's like
trying to like really kind of hold on to it
and keep it going for her kids and whatnot. Because
(41:06):
at the end of the day, the TikTok thing is fleeting,
it's not there's no guarantee, right, So what they need
to do is take the money from that and put
it into some kind of business or land or whatever
it is that to do that's more long lasting. But
the TikTok portion of it is probably the easiest way
to make that fast money and get those get that
(41:26):
you know, two hundred thousand dollars, you know whatever. Because
if they're making too let's just say they're making two
hundred thousand dollars per like thing, then like, depending on
how much paid promotion they do, they could, you know,
easily stack up a million and then put that into
something and keep kind of keep the money making money
and doing whatever. But it depends on what they know
to do. He's apparently a therapist, So I don't know
(41:49):
how much money he makes or if he's taking that
money and done anything with it. It just really depends
on their business savvy and what they know how to
do with it.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, she's not savvy at all, so she like, you know,
she's going in obviously at this, and Taylor looks at
her and says the thing like, you said you would
leave if I was still here, So exit stage left,
I mean, you know, and then Demi is like so upset.
She throws everything down and she's like, I don't understand
(42:18):
how all of you are not on my side and
totally backing me up against her, like kill the beast.
I mean, come on, Mikayla, you love Disney just kidding,
I mean, why you guys can be friends with a
disgusting human.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Being, which is like, so first of all, yeah, but
also first of all, Demi is like, who told you that?
And Taylor's like, well, actually it doesn't matter who told me.
You said it, right, And she's like, oh, well, first
of all, take the bitch level down and let's talk
human to human. And I was like, you insisting that
Taylor's being like a crazy person in this moment, is
(42:52):
not you. You already yelled at her for not understanding
what she said. No to you for now you're like,
take the bitch level down and talk human to human.
And then she's like, you lied about the hair drama.
And then so Demi starts to yell about that, and
it's like, you're not a good friend and you wanted
to kick Jesse out because remember that was the drama
in the beginning, was that Demi was like willing to
(43:14):
move Jesse out because Jesse didn't want to move forward
with whatever the deal was. So Jesse talks about being
hurt by Demi, and Demi just can't handle it. And
this is when Jesse says that she speaks like a therapist,
so you think you're wrong, and so then Taylor again
is like you said you would leave if I was here,
so and then that's when it turns into.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Me nan nana, hey, hey, hey, good line.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yes, yeah, And so then Demi starts to cry because
no one's on her side, and then she says that
she's been loyal to each of them. No, and then
she's like, I'm going to take time to decide if
I want to stay, you know, and continue with a
mom talk and they're all like, we don't mind.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah. It's so funny because like even in that moment,
it's like, oh, does she think that this is her
final Like you guys, she keeps thinking that she's an
asset to be lost. Yes, you guys are gonna lose me.
You guys are gonna lose me. Well, after all of this,
I'm gonna have to decide if you guys get to
still be friends with me, Like over and over again.
It's so weird. None of these girls are hungry for you,
(44:24):
like not even your best friend, Like all of them
are like the Christmas party was okay, there was fake No.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
It's also crazy. It's because she's still riding on the
fact that she was like fan favorite the last season,
and because this new season was filmed directly after. She's
still like on this high of like, guys, like everyone
loved me in the show last season, so like I
don't understand what you're saying, and we're like, yeah we did,
because you were like you said what you know you felt.
(44:53):
But now we like love Mikayla and like you know,
Macy's kind of climbing the charts a little bit, and
like we kind of love that everybody, and we love
Whitney in her villain era, just still being a villain,
but like trying to act like she's not a villain.
It's like, to me, you're the one that's like really
trying the kick tailor out is crazy. It's crazy. But anyway,
(45:14):
so then we have this dumb scene where Mikayla and
Macy go to the crash site where Macy lost her
first husband, and then we go to the next time on,
which is not really one. It's just this random ass
scene that they throw in because they really want us
to watch vander Pump and I'm not going to do it.
So Layla's like, yeah, so I'm friends with Marciano from
(45:38):
like Bla lebl And. So she goes to in the
mini skirt and like boots that like barely fit her
calf and like goes to me, goo ahead good.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
No, I'm sorry, I want you to this alvet is
horrible and like apparently it's very cold outside because he's
like hidden the slopes, So I'm like, what are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
But she goes to see him and then she's He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna have some fruit in tequila. And she's like
pure tequila and he's like, yeah, yes, I'm going to
hop I'm going to pour this tequila and I'm going
to sip on it. And she's like, oh my god.
And then they sit down they talk and she's like, Wow,
the reason why I'm hair is because I was told that,
(46:23):
like some things went down in Italy with you into me,
and like I just want to kind of clear all
that up. And he's like, yeah, well, at first I
didn't know she was married, and we were kind of
flirting with each other. But then when I found out she.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Was married, I was like, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I'm like, you're not into it, you know, like whatever, buddy,
Yeah I could say that I did try and I
was like whatever, and she's like oh okay, and she's
like but he's like but really it's like Jesse and
Lailah's like, wait, what are you mean? And she Leyla's
interview voice is so terrible.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
She's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
And so then he ends up basically telling her that
he fucked Jesse. And Jesse's all over him. At any
given time. She's like jumping into his arms and she's
like this could change everything, and then she's like, did
you guys fuck? And I was like, come on, warm
and mom, don't say fuck?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Did you guys? It's a full blown affair. Yeah, I
mean she first of all, she's flirting hardcore, and you
can tell it's that girl voice their she is flirting
with this man. I mean, her voice, her whole demeanor changes,
like and she also, yes, is like doing the most
cool girl Layla. That Laylah's ever cool girl.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
It's that kind of just like hey babe, you know,
just it's so funny, like all of it. Like I
also think that she just I get this. This is
so annoying, and I hate this for myself. But I
remember like the specific moment when I was in college
and I was like, this is gonna age me. I
don't care. I'm like at least age I was. I
was iming someone. Okay, I was i'ming someone on aim
(47:58):
in college and this person was like I was whatever,
like talking in this person and this person was like, yeah,
I'm gonna like shrewm and take a bath now. My
like halfa gas at that time was like what a
fucking bad boy? Yeah. I was just like so really
into that. You know, you know, think about all the time.
(48:18):
He's like a piece of shit on your cars. But anyway,
all that to say, I could like see the twinkle
in her eye when she was with this quote unquote
bad boy, and in my mind I was like, little
why didn't you woke up with this person if you
were there? Like Barciano himself was like, yeah, I'll be honest, like,
I was so fucking excited to go to this NBC Universal.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
Sister property and film with some other talent that's also
on the roster. And I heard about you guys being swingers.
So he was like, yeah, I saw you guys would
all fuck me. Was really mad when you guys did it.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
In my mind, I was like, well, what thought you
could have? And I don't know, because Marciano gives fuck
boy like nobody's business if she would have been satisfied.
But we are supposed to believe that Jesse made out
with him in La then lied to the girls. Was like, no,
I didn't, but also made out with him publicly as
(49:14):
two famous people, which in itself is a little like Okay,
she's also married, so that would have been on her
mind the forefront. I mean, you know, but that is
what that is for me, it's just interesting. Yeah, no,
it's definitely very.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
It made me go, oh, I do not care at
all about that show, and I don't want to see
anything that happen with that. I don't care about the
Jesse drama, Like I don't. It goes into icky territory
for me. It's like that's not my scene. Like I'll
watch Real Housewives and Mormon Wives because it's.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Real Mormon Wives.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, because it's because it's centered on the women, and
it's like I don't know, okay, but when you enter
these like whatever dudes, like I don't want dad talk,
Like I don't even want to see anything from any
of their husbands, Like I just want them and their
internal struggles and drama when they get together and the
(50:14):
girl politics that they have to deal with as young
twenty somethings or twenty somethings in young thirty somethings. So like, yeah,
it's weird. So you guys, the reunion is coming up.
Very excited for it and I want to see it's
it's done by the host is Nick Viles, who has
had Yeah he's on reality show.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
What was he on Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (50:36):
He was a Bachelor, and then but his his podcast
has been wildly successful and he's had almost every single
one of them on his podcast to talk about the show.
So him being the host is kind of appropriate. So
I hope he does a good job.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, I agree, all of that's true. And then obviously
you had sent me the TikTok of Taylor, Demi, and Whitney,
all three honey trinity of people that would like to
rule mom talk in whatever in a TikTok together, And
there was a moment where I was like, would it
be so funny if it was like that? But then
like in the very fucking back, like as a little
(51:09):
easter egg to like think that what's gonna happen? It
was either like Jesse or I don't know, like Macy
or Mikayla being like, you know, like they're somewhere somewhere
far in the back.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Anyway, that's your imaginative brain working. Sure, all right, you guys,
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Sweete Hey everyone, I'm wa.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And I'm Chris. Welcome the docu Sweeties.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
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but at the end of the day, hopefully mildly sweet. Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, so we're talking to you about the secret
lives of Mormon Wives, season two, episode ten, The Book
of Salvation. You guys, the heell all or the reunion
is happening either July first or July second, and I'm
so excited for it. Yes, yeah, Oh, I'm so excited for.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It because you sent me a TikTok. Because, as we know,
the world moves very fast, and especially in the world
of reality shows and especially in the world of girl drama.
So listen, we've gone on the journey now of episode
ten one to ten season two. We know obviously what
the fuck's up, and we know that this entire five
(01:17):
episode arc at least has been Demi angling for Queen
Bee against Taylor. And so we're going to go into
this episode and then we'll talk about some of the
recent oop dots dats, which is German for okay, Oh okay, great,
that's a real thing. Mm hmmm wait can I show
(01:39):
the people? This is? Can I show the people? Maybe
this is for Patreon? But whatever what you want, honey,
she is in the Chelsea. That's her staying that. That's her,
Like did you see her window? And it's all like
kind of grows, but do you see the that's a
building next door with a fire escape, perhaps made from brick.
(02:00):
Do you see that? Anyway, I'm in a different space.
We can't see it, all right, Sorry you cannot. We
can see it, okay, because you had no no reactions.
I just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Oh I was supposed to have a reaction. I thought
you were talking to Patreon.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So there's I mean, there's no one here. It's for
you in this very moment.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So like, oh, oh my god, look at that's so cute. Yes,
the bricks, very New York City. Oh wow, Chris, I'm
so happy for you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Okay, So we start off with Layla because she is
the little shitster for the last you know, five episodes
H And she visits Taylor and she brings her some
beignet mix from Louisiana because Taylor did sr it's Cafe Dumont.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Obviously, listen, I told us already. It's the Everyone knows
this box. It is golden, golden like orange and then
white as it goes into sorry as it goes into
the like specific branding of obviously Cafe Dumont, which is
(03:14):
where they went for the begnets. Everyone has gotten this
box at one point and no one actually makes it,
which I've already said that before, but it's true. It's
like one of those kitchy souvenir things where you're like,
I got to take this home, but like, are you
going to fry dough like in hot oil with one
of those like metal spatulas and then pick it up,
(03:38):
put it on a paper towel, and then later on
procure powdered sugar, put it all over it. Like is
that what your life's gonna be? Like? I mean, you
think it is, but it's not. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You're you're right, because here's the truth. I have almost
every kitchen gadget except for that. And I still think
about getting a deep frier because it would be very
easy for me if I have had some friends over
to like fry some chicken in a deep fryer the
same way one would fry a beignet. So like I
have a crock pot right now, I've got some chicken
in a car pot. It's on low for four hours.
(04:11):
I have a toaster, which I'd never use. I have
two coffee makers. I have two like hot water boilers
for tea. I have almost every kitchen gadget except for
you know what I don't have if it's a potato smasher,
which I think I have to get today because I
think I want to make some, but I get it.
So if I had a bigger kitchen, though, like the
kitchen of my dreams, would I have that? Yes? And
(04:32):
I think you would too, if you had the kitchen
of your dreams with all the pantry and cabinets. Yes,
you like, think about the kitchen or to Mecula. Think
about the kitchen into Mecula. How there's that one. There's
two different stuff it, there's two different pantry spaces right
that you could put things in and if you had it,
(04:54):
then you would put those things in every single and
you would have that. You would have that so that
when you went to Louisiana and you bought that box,
you could actually in fact, deep fry Abigne, there we go.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
A lot of things have to happen to get there.
And is Taylor going to do it?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Is Taylor going to Taylor?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah? Do you remember this is five minutes in first
episode or sorry, we're talking about sir Les more wives
first thing, so obviously she's.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
There with the Mormon wives, is what I heard. We're
talking about Sir Les and Mormon wives like.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You called it more Moron wives, which I thought it
was so funny, so so sorry, Layla is there with
the beignet mix as also like a little sorry. I
don't ever stick up for you. I have absolutely no backbone.
At the same time, I don't expect Layla to do anything,
like I'm not looking at Layla to like defend Taylor.
(05:50):
It's just like I don't care. I don't want her
to do it, like I don't need her to do it,
Like I don't even look at like how do she
can't even get her boyfriend to go to like one
of the events. You know what I'm saying, She like
can have an orgasm. She's dating Benji's cousin or not,
and he goes to one or two things, and he
like won't go to events with her. I feel so bad.
I feel like she listen, I just don't expect her
(06:10):
to like fight fight Taylor's fights, and you know it's
really Taylor. Like Taylor's don't really mad at her. She
like she brings it up. But also Taylor has no friends,
so she needs not only Layla, but I mean maybe
she needs the dynamics. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thank you for that hot take, Chris. So Layla feels
bad for not sticking up for Taylor at the Sins
and Saner party since and Saints and Center party and
is tired of.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sensibility party is what I wish it was. What if
it was a Jane Austen Sense and Sensibility party?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's not anyway, Yeah, that would probably be more along
the lines of Mormon is Sense and Sensibility.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I know what the Austin cosplay. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I have this video that I need to send to
you from TikTok. It basically explains like the origins of
Mormon and so that we will have very very like
specific knowledge of the church.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Okay, it's the account doing it. Are an ex Mormon
or a Mormon ex Mormon.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, And so Taylor's you know, it's like, I didn't
go because she felt alone at the Sin since Saints
and Sinner party, and she didn't want to feel that again.
So Taylor, uh, Leila ends up just telling Taylor about
Demi's ultimatum, and then Leanne knocks on the door and
walks in. So now it is Leanne, Taylor, and Layla
(07:36):
and they are talking about what happened, and Leanne goes
into mom mode at this time, even though she doesn't
go into mom mode when her husband's around. But you know,
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I feel like there must be some sort of clause
in Lianne's contract where she gets paid every time she's
in a scene. And so like Taylor and her were
like oppy in every scene because mommy gets to have money. Okay,
because mommy gets then he okay Taylor, and Taylor's like,
oh fine, you know a little bit, but like, honestly,
this goes into season three, Hulu, listen to me, just play,
pay her a blanket sum and then never put her
(08:11):
on the fucking call list.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, well you have strong feelings about that. So then
you know, Taylor's like, well that makes it awkward because
she's hosting the mom Talk Christmas party. And Layla's like, oh, girl,
I don't think you're invited to.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's more for you because you wouldn't be there to
make it awkward, babe, And she's yeah. She's like like
uh why.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Taylor's like very confused as to why she's not going,
and She's like, well, to me, probably doesn't want you there.
And then Taylor's like, well, then why does she invite me?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Layla's like, well, I.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Think she may have accidentally that she didn't realize that
you were in that group thread, so and I'm like,
this is awkward. This is that whole exchange was very
very weird. I would be so if I were Tailor
for whatever reason, I don't know why, but I would
shoot the messenger. I would be mad at Laila.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Why that does make I wouldn't. I wouldn't that just
got Benet's honey. No. I would just be like I
just feel bad for Laila with that one, like stuck
extension in the back of her head. Honey, I'll just
like that was like episode one for this season, Like
you know, they just did here so wrong. I just
feel like, you know, you know what.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I think it's because it goes back to what I
originally said. If you were my friend and you do
not stick up for me when I'm not around and
you hear somebody talking shit and you just come back
and tell me what happened, I don't think you're my friend.
I think that you're just a shitster and you're somebody
that wants to be like in the mix and or
a coward, and like I cannot be friends with that person, Like, oh,
(09:48):
you're not my friend, coward, you can't. You're you're not
my friend, Like you're not somebody that I can truly
count on. And when you're in a large group of friends,
like a group, like a large group, that makes it
even worse. Like I think maybe I could be a
friend with a coward one on one, but like I
could not if we were in a group setting. Does
that make sense, I have any groups of friends, Like
(10:10):
I don't have a group of friends. I don't have
there's there's no my neighbors are maybe my biggest group
of friends. And even then I'm in the chat like okay,
so no one's gonna respond to me, and they're like, whah,
we are busy, and I'm like, you're not busy. You
saw my text. And they come front me brunch and shit,
they're like you get so upset and I'm like, I
don't know, because I think you kids are talking about me.
(10:31):
That's why she's like, we're not talking about you. I
was like, fine, just girl politics from my younger years
have scarred me.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I mean, it's a lot of girl politics in my show.
Like it's like, you know, this could be a weird
master class if that was at all super real.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So because Leanne then says that she's planning on crashing
the party for Taylor, and then Taylor's like, listen, if
you want to push me out, you're just gonna have
to say it to my face. But Taylor has decided
I'm not going so.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right, No, no, I.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Didn't understand what you said. Say it again my mom's face.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Oh okay, sorry, sorry, I'm I'm using this, Mike. I'm sorry.
Maybe I'm in and out a little bit just playing
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So then we have the excess party the Christmas card.
Do you want to talk about that? And how what?
Like everyone's yes, honey, oh the Christmas party. First of all, Demi.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Does look truly really beautiful, but she must have drag
makeup on in such a way because there's a lot
of like highlight in this area, and she so much
so that her own friends are like, bitch, who are you? Like?
Who who am I looking at? Like you don't look
(11:50):
like yourself? Like who are you like? You know, but
she doesn't he like. I don't know if it's her
lipstick or you know, it's not really her hair, it's whatever.
I think it's just this light and so truly she
looks she's overdone. But that's her party. I love what
Mikayla is wearing, which is just this kind of demure
red dress and this white cream faux for you know,
(12:14):
this is Utah. So what it's Christmas time. They get
to do things I don't get to do. You know
that involves like real cold shit, you know, cold climate stuff,
which is so great for Christmas. So it's a lot
of faux firs and everyone looks really you know, obviously
put together. That's another thing that these girls do. I
will give it to them that they dress up like
(12:38):
their two looks are dressed the fuck up or I
mean just woke up and like you know, athleisure wear.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Maybe that's the bipoliary. It's like, look, do you understand
how fucking long it takes me to get my hair done?
Put the extensions and I have to curl the extensions,
bun the extensions. I have to put my makeup on.
I have to you know, like the serums, the cold treatment,
and then you know like put it all on, lend
it all well, put the eyelashes on. It's like four
hours or nothing. That's what I have for you. So like,
(13:08):
you know, it's a I yeah to say about that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Four hours or nothing is four hours or bus is
like is like hilarious. Uh So then Leila like goes out.
They all go out to look at the view and
then they're all off there and they're all on their
fauf furs and Leilah she gets stuck in the deck
and she like falls and they're like, we got to
go back. It's too cold out here. So it's cold.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Where's her dude? And no one talks about it right.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, you know, I don't cent her mend so
like I don't care where he's at. I don't think
about it, and I learn about it like I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right right, they're just all you know why I bring
it up because like they're kind of all there with
their coops bad but.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
They always are like that is what they do, and
it's annoying for me.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know. It's like you're they're either like momming it
up and girling it up or it's just like you know,
doude DoD dude, dude or whatever. And yeah, I just
feel like feel bad for her anyway. So also remember
when you have that faux further we loved so much.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't have it anymore. Oh the one from a
long time ago, the like stole with the like one
little thing here, the CARDI b one. Oh god, I've
had so many. Yeah, you're right. Either my friend bought
me one from Banana Public, like in the early aughts,
Bahana Public. H wait, Banana republic. Did you know that
(14:29):
a banana republic is an actual like political term or
like a term for a country. Yeah, yeah, it's fucked
up anyways, So got that, And then I also had
that big one for that one New Year's at Morgan's house. Yeah,
you're right, I did have that Cardi B one at
two Cardi B's.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wait, I just had a blast in the past because
I was thinking about your right of that. But do
you remember you're not at Colors of Benenton but Benetton
because and yeah, I forgot about that until just now.
But when I was talking about Bana Republic, obviously we're
talking about mat Republic, and we were talking about like
what could be a political tie. But and then I
remember United Colors of Beneton because it was basically like
a version of the Michael Jackson Black and White video
(15:09):
where it was just like she's black, she's white. It
was just like a different people Like it was just
like there was just like all the different ethnicities United
Colors of benettin I have no idea what Benetton was
or what they meant, or where that place went or
who owned that place. I feel like Prince Charles, does
you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like they were trying to be inclusive at a time
when nobody else was trying to be inclusive, but they
really weren't. It was it was just skinny people. And
then I have I have a fur now and it's
not it's not like it's an it's cheerling, so it's
lamb or I don't know, cheerling. So it didn't kid
didn't kill the animal.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
To make it.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
And that's cute.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I really like that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, So yes, do I do I have faux fur
or fur that is not mink or endangered species? Yes?
And do I bust it out every year? Absolutely? And
while I wear it for Chriss this year, yes and
next year yes. Do I want a red one yes?
Don't want a black one?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So you know these are all things. I have a
cream that's the one I have right now.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh sorry, I went cream.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So AnyWho they she gonna go on the inside. And Tom,
who you know was married in the temple, is like,
does anyone want champagne? For those who want it? And
two are like, we're pregnant, and then Whitney's like, I'm Mormon,
so no.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, but so bad to be.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And whoever is else, Leila, I think that's who's left
drink the champagne and their their their husbands or whatever.
So cheers to another year of surviving mom talk and
so they're all there and the you know, pregnant girls
are hungry and looking for all the things that can eat.
And I was like, I'm hungry too, girl, I'm not pregnant.
I'm hungry too. I want to know what you guys are.
(16:50):
And then Leanne comes. She comes in not dressed for
the occasion. Leanne never looks nice to me, Like, she
never looks like she's dressed appropriate. I was like, this
is a Christmas and you came in like jeans and
like for it just didn't look good.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Leanne rolls in, honey, like she's an extra from like
Roseanne from the nineteen eighties. I mean, you know, it
is like Midwest to a test, honey, you know, like
it's specific. And the reason why I bring it up
is for the following reasons. A. You're on a television show. B.
This is a Christmas party. See why go why make
(17:26):
an end Like I don't even quite understand what her
endgame is like At first, you think that it's gonna
be like, deliver this, she has a big present, say
something mean or look fabulous or whatever. Because but Leanne
in the past has made weird, I mean, made a
lot of weird decisions mostly and notably calling people that
(17:49):
aren't at events. And now she's showing up at an
event that her daughter is not at. You know what
I'm saying. It's like, now, granted, yes she wants to
be on the show, and you know PU users are there,
but even then, with the face lifts and everything, I'd
be like, bitch, why are you not dressing the fuck up?
Like what only for your own benefit? Like why walk
(18:11):
into this mom talk you're not invited to with a
bunch of like badass biddies to like what plead your
weird case? You know, and just like I don't know,
without any sort of spectacle or like fun or any
sort of like revenge if she came looking hot again,
remember this whole season she had a face lift, so
(18:31):
like she could come in, you know, guns blazing, you know,
with the titties up and the makeup on, and like
show DEMI you know, like you know how to wear
a red lip? I don't know, but she doesn't. I'm
mad at it. And it's because and again, I don't
want women to think that they have to like showcase
their beauty. I'm not saying that, but she does because
(18:52):
of everything that she said to her daughter, because because
she's just like Whitney, they're like the most handmaiden made
as of this cast. So I don't mind giving her
some shit because she is lost in the fucking sauce.
So if she's going to like tell her daughter, you
know that like her you know, slept, shame her daughter,
then yeah, Leanne, get that facelift and come showing, like,
(19:15):
come showing something because he looks trashy. Yeah, it's it
didn't it didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It didn't look good. But she came in with this
giant as present and Demi's like, Hi, what are you
doing here? And She's just like yeah, I mean I'm
here because Taylor wasn't invited and I thought there should
be a representation of Taylor's energy here. And so she's like, well,
do you want to talk? And Leanne's like yeah. So
they go and they send on the couch and talk
and let me tell you, Layla, Macey and Michayla are
(19:44):
just like and so it was Whitney okay. So then first,
you know, they talk about the cmas and Leanne is
just like, listen, I get that. You know, Taylor may
have come off as like whatever, but she did it.
It was petty. And the way they petty is like
petty doesn't actually mean anything. It's like the word like
(20:04):
people can be petty, and that's okay for me, it's
not necessarily I'm like, petty is like I don't want
to be friends with you. You're gonna be fucking petty.
But she's like she was just being petty, So like
just let it go, because you know, being petty is fine.
And so you know, Leanne tries to defend Tay's caddy
behavior and the other girls are just like just soaking
(20:26):
in all the drama. And then Leanne's like, well, it
does seem like you want to be Queen Bee. And
then Demi's like, well, when Dakota is telling me and
my husband all these things, and you know, I think
Taylor just needs to honestly get her house in order.
And I was like, oh, so, I'm really glad that
Leanne was able to hear that Dakota is not the
(20:49):
angel and not the person worthy of redemption that her
and her husband seemed to think that he is, because
he's actually going behind Taylor's back talking to other members
of Mom Talk and telling their business. And so then
Taylor is being judged by de me heavily because of
Dakota's reaching out and like doing whatever. So it's just
(21:09):
like messy in that in that kind of place. And
then Whitney walks over and she's like, Hi, are you
guys okay? And so Whitney tries to be on Demi's
side and just talk about.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Her daughter's a cunt. She just didn't know that. Yeah,
we all hate your daughter. Just listen real close to
this when she when I say she's done not a
thing for not a person here except drain us. Literally,
she's just a constant drama ball. We have to text
all the time to make sure she's good or just
walking on eggshells. You meytimes she's texted us, not never,
(21:44):
not never. And then Lianne does take that in because
I think that she knows it's the truth, because I
also think that Leanne in her mind she was also like, oh,
she doesn't have to text you. She's the queen. Mm hm,
oh yeah, you're all paying your text sure, Yeah, you
have to pay your tax, Yeah, she doesn't pay. Her
task is to you. You know what I'm saying, like,
(22:05):
pay your tax to Caesar. That's what they say in
the book. And I don't know, like Liane's you know,
like I feel like Leanne's mind's going in a batshit
crazy place. We can't even like truly know, which I
wish we had.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, because Leanne is just like, well, well, you know,
Taylor is going through a lot right now. She's a
single mom, and you know, we would love to hope
that her friends would support her. And Demi's like, well,
I've been a single mom and as well and gone
through similar issues. And then we hear like Macey or
Mikayla in the back. They're like, no, Jesse, I forgot
(22:37):
Jesse's there. Jesse's like, did she just say she's a
single mom? Jesse was like a single mom for a month.
We're like, oh, Shade. So everyone's just kind of eavesdropping
and listening and feeling mildly uncomfortable but loving it at
the same time. And She's like, I've texted her over
thirty times and she hasn't done that for me at all,
(22:59):
nor has she checked in with the group. And I
just think to myself, you guys know that this bitch
was caught in a scandal. Got pregnant, got arrested, had
a baby, like did a sign a deal to be
on a show, film the show, then like is now
dealing with the fallout of her family yelling at her
(23:20):
and like doing all this shit, she is going fucking
through it. You want her to wet chat in the
group and say hello, Like, no, I'm telling you right now,
I whenever I'm going through it, I'm not chatting in
any group. I'll see it, but I can't respond because
I can't engage, Like I'm tired, I'm sleepy, I'm going
through it mentally, and I just don't have the time
to like engage with you. And this woman has three kids,
(23:44):
she doesn't have a stable partner, and that partner she's
worried about. She's in therapy with none of the other
girls are going through the same shit that she's going through,
and for them to even be like, we checked in
on her, but she also isn't checking in on us.
So Leanne just realizes that there's no nothing she can say,
so she starts to cry, and then she's like, you know,
(24:06):
when Taylor was in the deepest part and darkest part
of her life, Like, you guys all disowned her, and
then Demi's like, I'm so sick of Taylor getting a
pass because whatever she's going through is hard. It's like,
welcome to the real world, Tailor. It sucked for us too,
like stop posting online. She's not the victim here. And
I was like, you said all of that to that
(24:27):
woman's mother. And then that's when the group on the
other side is like turns against her. They're like, I
cannot believe that she's yelling at Leanne. That's so disrespectful.
And this is the first time I have ever honestly
heard like in any white culture where like yelling at
your elders is disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So I was like, oh, I like that. Yeah, I
mean I also, yeah, I understand. Also, these girls, I
don't know if all of them did, but I'm assuming
they've known each other's families, the ones that are been
Mormon for like a hot ass minute, for you know,
hot ass minute, just because oh, like you know, for
(25:04):
them to all say that weird prayer and stuff like that,
I'm assuming that there were like classes when they were
thirteen that the girl like you know, well, they looked
over Whitney was like there with her, like you know,
toe head and she was like, is that DEMI? I mean,
I don't know. I'm assuming that they've had moments together,
their moms know each other and stuff like that. I'm
assuming there's like Mormon women's leagues where you done into
(25:26):
boops and bacon. They bake all the time. So that's
the fact. The fact that there are bakers makes me
think that they're coming together to share their bacon and
not be not be acn although I would love bacon,
but the baking that they baked, so anyway, So yeah, Also,
(25:46):
Santa Enter is perfect timing. They're like dying over the
fact that Santa Enter's like oh ho ho. They're like
me just kidding, ha ha ha. And then there's fake
snow and like the way it happens is like bread
like it happens, and Brett's excuse me, ladies, I'm so
sorry to break up this scene. The fake snow is
(26:07):
happening outside, which is like annoying because they literally live
in a place with real snow, like but there's just
not real snow in that moment, Like sure in California
at the Grove of Honey, we have to do that shit,
and it's like that foamy kind of stuff. But like
you know what we get nothing. You know, like this
is Utah. You're in fake fur, like you know, just
like can't you just look at the look at the
(26:27):
weather ahead of time and film when you know there's
gonna be some snow, go ahead walk. Well.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
The thing is, though, I'm gonna tell you about snow.
It is magical when it's on a movie set. It's
magical when it's fake. But when it's real and you're
outside walking in snow, it is not magical. It is
it is like, oh shit, it's snowing, Like I wonder
how Like it's gonna show three inches, let's go home,
like it is like people have to disperse because then
wherever you are, if you have driven there your car,
(26:55):
you're gonna have to shovel your car out of the snow.
Like it's not it's magical until it becomes not magical.
It's wonderful if you're in a space where you don't
have to leave, and then the next morning you do
have to shovel and get that snow out of your know.
So I get it. I get that it does snow
in Utah, but maybe it doesn't snow in the way
that they want it on Christmas and all that jazz.
(27:17):
After living in a place where I've had a white Christmas,
like a true one, even New York it's a white Christmas.
Let me tell you. In Minnesota, girl, it is a
why he take Christmas?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay? It is white and.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Beautiful and like, no, why, I don't know how you
say that? Yeah, yeah, it's very much that.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So I can see them wanting to make that happen
because if it actually was snowing, everyone would be like, oh,
we got to go home. The roads are treacherous.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Don't take away from me. I don't like get it.
So then the open tailors get and I am telling
you right now, I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well it wasn't though it was because it was one
of the.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Uh what does that think?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What am I trying to say? Sponsorships that Demi wasn't on.
Do you remember Demi got like weird with with Laila
about being going to New York City with Taylor. So
it's like Taylor, Laila and Jen went to New York
City to film a sponsorship for a makeup brand, and
that's what it was. And because Demi was so like welcome,
(28:31):
She's like, oh, here you go, babes, here's some some products.
And I thought, Taylor, God, you're so petty and fucking brilliant.
I thought it was great because we don't know because
they didn't show it in the show. But if you're
watching them on TikTok and you like follow like what's
going on outside of it in conjunction with the show,
you know how.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Shady it was. Okay, maybe I guess my mind. They
set up certain things. They set up the set, like
they set up the fact that maybe Brett cheated not
before in one of his other situations, or maybe there's
some shady business deals or like whatnot. And or obviously
they set up Demi maybe cheating on him with the
people from Billy Philip. I just wish it was something
(29:13):
a little more like, hey, bitch, if you're going to
talk shit about me in a way that might ruin
my life, then you better know that I can easily vary,
like I want that kind of gift anyway.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Okay, So Miranda then leaves, and then the girls decide
that they need to have a Who's an Miranda? Sorry,
so Miranda leaves, Well, Lanne does leave, but Miranda leaves
then and they decide that they're going to have a
conversation about who's in or who's out. And then there's
this dumb scene with like Macy and her ex in laws,
(29:52):
and then there's another dumb scene with Dakota and Leanne
and they talk, and then there's another stupid scene where
Macy and Jessie talk and she doesn't have any cancer,
so that's really great. It's at her business, jay Z
Styles or whatever, and they're sitting amongst the like hair
hair extensions where they talk about that. So then we
(30:16):
move on to a great scene where it's Jesse and
she has decided to host the mom Talk conversation at
her home and so, uh, you know, everybody starts to
arrive and then they're like, oh, Taylor's finally here and
she's like, when am I not late? You guys, Like
I'm late. I'm like at this Pitch has three kids
and like she's doing it on her own with her
family and like driving around having her like iced diet
(30:37):
coke and like in her bag, you know, her handbag
that you I don't know the name of, Girard, Girardo, what.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Is it called. First of all, she's not do you
think she's doing it by herself. Do you know how
much money she's making?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, I mean when I say doing it by herself,
like she could have help, but like, hmmm, I don't
know that she has like Mariah Carey level help. Like
when I think of people who have like help, I
think of someone who like has somebody come in and
be like, Okay, it's it's nine. You need to start
getting ready. The makeup person's here, Like, I don't think
that's happening for Taylor. You can have a nanny, you
(31:09):
can have a housekeeper, you can have people around you
doing things, but that still doesn't mean that you are
on time for things or you understand, like you know,
I have to get ready now, I have to do this.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't know. Oh god, I wish I was Maria
carry Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I feel like Mariah Carey fully has somebody that's like
Mariah walk from this room to the next room. She's like, okay,
Like I think that she has somebody because I saw
an interview with her. She's like, I don't I don't
understand time. She's like, I don't have people. I don't
manage time. I have people who make for me and
so Yeah, she definitely has some folks that are just
(31:48):
like coming in telling her what to do, when to move,
and how much time she has and giving her, you know,
five minutes. She's like, thank you five. Uh So, so
we find out that Taylor and de Me have not
talked since the Saints and Center, which is crazy because
there's been a lot of filming that's happened since Saints
and Center and they have not spoken at all. So
(32:09):
in the meeting, we've got Whitney like, Whitney's like, is
this even a business anymore? Because we do not meet
up and post together. And then they start to talk
about like what the business looks like, and I'm like,
you guys don't need to meet up and talk anymore
and do chiktoks anymore? Why because you have a reality
(32:31):
show and the individual tiktoks you do with each other
are great. I don't, like, I personally don't need to
see something where you guys are.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Like in a circle and walking do It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And then the next person comes in. I'm gonna tell
you right now, when I see Whitney's tiktoks, she loves
to like shake her like mid section, like rigorously. If
you guys aren't Patreon, you'll see this.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
This is what she.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
She loves to do this, and then she she thinks
she's so good at it. She's always like, oh yeah, yeah,
he fucking loves doing it. Like she feels her baddest,
her sexiest, her most hip hopist.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
In that moment. Yeah, it's like cheer. It has to
be like from a cheer in like the two thousands.
It just feels so like cheer, you know, like dud
da da duh. You know, because you can do once
you've mastered this, you can do it a couple of times,
you know you can, and then you can Yeah, you
can go into a body roll. There's a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
She loves it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You can. Here's the thing. I've always been much better
at a body roll that kind of stuff than I
would ever obviously can't tork at all. It's unfortunate, and
I'm so mad about it think about all the time.
But like I can definitely do a pretty good fucking
body roll, like, you know, like I can really get
in there and like, you know, like isolate things like
I'm isolate later in that kind of way. And I
(34:03):
think that unfortunately, Whitney's probably the same. I actually think
that Whitney probably could work better than I could. I'm
carrying Mikayla is the one that can really to work, Like,
Michayla could work better than you think. Anyone who's like,
how does Princess Tiana say this? That's how I say
it kind of person would just suddenly be like, oh,
for some reason, I will full fucking ass and I
can shake it like I've been trying.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Mm hmm. She has that good isolation and motion in
the ocean. It's like water back there. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah.
So then they start to talk about like who wants
people in, who wants people out? Taylor votes for Miranda
to not be in because she feels like Taylor Amranda's
just coming in at a most convenient time, which is true.
(34:48):
Taylor says that you know, she had Whitney's back when
Whitney when people were voting Whitney out or didn't didn't
know what was going on and no one else did.
So she's like, so it's fine or whatever. I can
be cordial to Whitney, and Mikayla feels the same. Mikayla's like, listen,
I've had to have two vacations now with Whitney, and
(35:10):
while I haven't been happy about it, it's been fine.
So I can I can ignore her and it'll be
it's okay. So Whitney's back in and she's very happy
for it.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Taylor, God, I mean, she fucking smiles at the goddamn grinch. Honey.
I mean, Whitney couldn't be Whitney came in that moment
so hard, h but she was like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And so then Taylor is also like, but for DEMI like,
it's you know, it's a no for me, and uh
then to me, to me gets so her reaction is
so like guttural. She's like, we're not fucking voting on me.
You're so fucking weird. I've been in mom ti like,
and she's like, uh, we've I've been in mom talk
(36:01):
and we are not voting on people who were already in.
And she's like, I never said vote. I said, I
can't be cordial with you, cordial. I can't be cordial
with you like I am saying. I could be cordial
with Whitney if she's back in, But for me, it's
a no dog for you, like and she's like, oh,
I thought you were. She's like projection She's like, I'm
(36:23):
not projectioning. I just thought that you were saying.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No, But to me, you just said, if Taylor's in,
you're out, so be out, babe.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Also to me, you sure know in your heart of
hearts that if Taylor doesn't want you there, she can
vote you out. Like, Demi got so mad because I
think that her biggest fear happened that Taylor does looked
at her and was like, not you anymore? And then
I think that here's the problem is Demi really thought
(36:54):
that all the other girls would be like, fuck you, Taylor,
aren't you Queen Demi? Damny Demi, Demi. However you say it,
We're into it, you know what I'm saying. And uh,
none of those girls, not even her best friend. She like,
she didn't plan this at all. Well, and I think
it's because she planned it with Brett, and Brett just
(37:18):
sat there and told her a bunch of shit like yeah,
you know, because like Tilly doesn't. But she didn't plan
this with one of the girls, like she didn't plan
it with Whitney. Some girls Kim and wend knowing about
how power it is. But Whitney is gonna drop Demi
in a minute. If Demi was not a mom talk,
I think Whitney would be like two shits, no, you
know what I'm saying. Like, so it's it's like, that's
why I think it's so funny, Like she planned, I think,
(37:40):
to take over this with her husband, who was like,
let's do it for whatever money or we because we
think you're the best, and it's just all across the board. Stupid.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, she made she made the wrong choice, and Jesse
actually says that. Jesse ends up saying later on that
she's like the reason why I guess I kind of
got caught up into me is because Demi speaks like
a therapist and she speaks in such a commanding way
that you think, oh, she knows what she's talking about,
so she must be right. But the truth is is
like when you really think about it, she's not right.
(38:13):
And she doesn't take critician very well because she thinks
that she knows things because of her husband and the
fact that she even puts things on her TikTok where
it's like, well, I married the most eligible bachelor in town,
like she's really happy to have married Brett because Brett
used to be married to somebody who was on a
(38:33):
reality show, so like she feels very much like cool
because she's a part of that world. But it's like, no,
you're not going to turn secret lives of Mormon wives
into whatever real housewives of blankety blank. Like secret Lives
of Mormon wives needs to be what it is, and
(38:53):
it's called what it is because of Taylor and her
secret life. What's your secret life that you can't have
children which is terrible, or which is you're having fertility
at choose horrible, But like that's not the secret. No
one else like it feels like based on the in
the end of this season that Jesse is now going
(39:15):
to have the most like drama and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
So yep, yep, yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I
also feel like you had a secret life of Alex
mac as me makes me think about it all the time.
We'll say one more thing. It's just it's interesting again
because Demi married a whole as old ass man, right,
like a whole old man. I mean he's not that.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Old, he's only forty eight seven or forty eight, But
for her who's thirty one.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, of course for her her for you know, all
I'm saying is from what I assuming with their like
traditional gender roles and all that stuff in the patriarchal
system they live in, Like why is Brett and Demi
acting like they're fucking starving artists? Like why are they
like acting like beggars, like we don't have enough money,
(40:01):
We don't do un through this, you know, like they're
acting like he is poor and almost as if there's
like financial trouble looming. We don't even know about that.
They're trying to get their like shit in a row.
And all I'm saying, doesn't that suck for like a
young girl to like marry like an old guy who's broke.
(40:25):
It makes you like do all of this shit ruin
your friend group just to get more money because he's
so broke. Like what would have been great is I'm
assuming to marry someone who's older, wiser, comfortable, secure, stable,
that kind of shit where you don't have to fuck
everything up in your life because that person is financially secure.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I don't even think it has anything to do with
whether or not he has money or not. I just
think it's people who have money tend to be kind
of gravelicious when it comes to the procurement and the
keeping of it, depending on what their backgrounds are. Right,
we don't know. I don't know how Demi grew up.
Maybe she did grow up, and so now she's like
trying to like really kind of hold on to it
and keep it going for her kids and whatnot. Because
(41:06):
at the end of the day, the TikTok thing is fleeting,
it's not there's no guarantee, right, So what they need
to do is take the money from that and put
it into some kind of business or land or whatever
it is that to do that's more long lasting. But
the TikTok portion of it is probably the easiest way
to make that fast money and get those get that
(41:26):
you know, two hundred thousand dollars, you know whatever. Because
if they're making too let's just say they're making two
hundred thousand dollars per like thing, then like, depending on
how much paid promotion they do, they could, you know,
easily stack up a million and then put that into
something and keep kind of keep the money making money
and doing whatever. But it depends on what they know
to do. He's apparently a therapist, So I don't know
(41:49):
how much money he makes or if he's taking that
money and done anything with it. It just really depends
on their business savvy and what they know how to
do with it.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, she's not savvy at all, so she like, you know,
she's going in obviously at this, and Taylor looks at
her and says the thing like, you said you would
leave if I was still here, So exit stage left,
I mean, you know, and then Demi is like so upset.
She throws everything down and she's like, I don't understand
(42:18):
how all of you are not on my side and
totally backing me up against her, like kill the beast.
I mean, come on, Mikayla, you love Disney just kidding,
I mean, why you guys can be friends with a
disgusting human.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Being, which is like, so first of all, yeah, but
also first of all, Demi is like, who told you that?
And Taylor's like, well, actually it doesn't matter who told me.
You said it, right, And she's like, oh, well, first
of all, take the bitch level down and let's talk
human to human. And I was like, you insisting that
Taylor's being like a crazy person in this moment, is
(42:52):
not you. You already yelled at her for not understanding
what she said. No to you for now you're like,
take the bitch level down and talk human to human.
And then she's like, you lied about the hair drama.
And then so Demi starts to yell about that, and
it's like, you're not a good friend and you wanted
to kick Jesse out because remember that was the drama
in the beginning, was that Demi was like willing to
(43:14):
move Jesse out because Jesse didn't want to move forward
with whatever the deal was. So Jesse talks about being
hurt by Demi, and Demi just can't handle it. And
this is when Jesse says that she speaks like a therapist,
so you think you're wrong, and so then Taylor again
is like you said you would leave if I was here,
so and then that's when it turns into.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Me nan nana, hey, hey, hey, good line.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yes, yeah, And so then Demi starts to cry because
no one's on her side, and then she says that
she's been loyal to each of them. No, and then
she's like, I'm going to take time to decide if
I want to stay, you know, and continue with a
mom talk and they're all like, we don't mind.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah. It's so funny because like even in that moment,
it's like, oh, does she think that this is her
final Like you guys, she keeps thinking that she's an
asset to be lost. Yes, you guys are gonna lose me.
You guys are gonna lose me. Well, after all of this,
I'm gonna have to decide if you guys get to
still be friends with me, Like over and over again.
It's so weird. None of these girls are hungry for you,
(44:24):
like not even your best friend, Like all of them
are like the Christmas party was okay, there was fake No.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
It's also crazy. It's because she's still riding on the
fact that she was like fan favorite the last season,
and because this new season was filmed directly after. She's
still like on this high of like, guys, like everyone
loved me in the show last season, so like I
don't understand what you're saying, and we're like, yeah we did,
because you were like you said what you know you felt.
(44:53):
But now we like love Mikayla and like you know,
Macy's kind of climbing the charts a little bit, and
like we kind of love that everybody, and we love
Whitney in her villain era, just still being a villain,
but like trying to act like she's not a villain.
It's like, to me, you're the one that's like really
trying the kick tailor out is crazy. It's crazy. But anyway,
(45:14):
so then we have this dumb scene where Mikayla and
Macy go to the crash site where Macy lost her
first husband, and then we go to the next time on,
which is not really one. It's just this random ass
scene that they throw in because they really want us
to watch vander Pump and I'm not going to do it.
So Layla's like, yeah, so I'm friends with Marciano from
(45:38):
like Bla lebl And. So she goes to in the
mini skirt and like boots that like barely fit her
calf and like goes to me, goo ahead good.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
No, I'm sorry, I want you to this alvet is
horrible and like apparently it's very cold outside because he's
like hidden the slopes, So I'm like, what are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
But she goes to see him and then she's He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna have some fruit in tequila. And she's like
pure tequila and he's like, yeah, yes, I'm going to
hop I'm going to pour this tequila and I'm going
to sip on it. And she's like, oh my god.
And then they sit down they talk and she's like, Wow,
the reason why I'm hair is because I was told that,
(46:23):
like some things went down in Italy with you into me,
and like I just want to kind of clear all
that up. And he's like, yeah, well, at first I
didn't know she was married, and we were kind of
flirting with each other. But then when I found out she.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Was married, I was like, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I'm like, you're not into it, you know, like whatever, buddy,
Yeah I could say that I did try and I
was like whatever, and she's like oh okay, and she's
like but he's like but really it's like Jesse and
Lailah's like, wait, what are you mean? And she Leyla's
interview voice is so terrible.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
She's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
And so then he ends up basically telling her that
he fucked Jesse. And Jesse's all over him. At any
given time. She's like jumping into his arms and she's
like this could change everything, and then she's like, did
you guys fuck? And I was like, come on, warm
and mom, don't say fuck?
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Did you guys? It's a full blown affair. Yeah, I
mean she first of all, she's flirting hardcore, and you
can tell it's that girl voice their she is flirting
with this man. I mean, her voice, her whole demeanor changes,
like and she also, yes, is like doing the most
cool girl Layla. That Laylah's ever cool girl.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
It's that kind of just like hey babe, you know,
just it's so funny, like all of it. Like I
also think that she just I get this. This is
so annoying, and I hate this for myself. But I
remember like the specific moment when I was in college
and I was like, this is gonna age me. I
don't care. I'm like at least age I was. I
was iming someone. Okay, I was i'ming someone on aim
(47:58):
in college and this person was like I was whatever,
like talking in this person and this person was like, yeah,
I'm gonna like shrewm and take a bath now. My
like halfa gas at that time was like what a
fucking bad boy? Yeah. I was just like so really
into that. You know, you know, think about all the time.
(48:18):
He's like a piece of shit on your cars. But anyway,
all that to say, I could like see the twinkle
in her eye when she was with this quote unquote
bad boy, and in my mind I was like, little
why didn't you woke up with this person if you
were there? Like Barciano himself was like, yeah, I'll be honest, like,
I was so fucking excited to go to this NBC Universal.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
Sister property and film with some other talent that's also
on the roster. And I heard about you guys being swingers.
So he was like, yeah, I saw you guys would
all fuck me. Was really mad when you guys did it.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
In my mind, I was like, well, what thought you
could have? And I don't know, because Marciano gives fuck
boy like nobody's business if she would have been satisfied.
But we are supposed to believe that Jesse made out
with him in La then lied to the girls. Was like, no,
I didn't, but also made out with him publicly as
(49:14):
two famous people, which in itself is a little like Okay,
she's also married, so that would have been on her
mind the forefront. I mean, you know, but that is
what that is for me, it's just interesting. Yeah, no,
it's definitely very.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
It made me go, oh, I do not care at
all about that show, and I don't want to see
anything that happen with that. I don't care about the
Jesse drama, Like I don't. It goes into icky territory
for me. It's like that's not my scene. Like I'll
watch Real Housewives and Mormon Wives because it's.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Real Mormon Wives.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, because it's because it's centered on the women, and
it's like I don't know, okay, but when you enter
these like whatever dudes, like I don't want dad talk,
Like I don't even want to see anything from any
of their husbands, Like I just want them and their
internal struggles and drama when they get together and the
(50:14):
girl politics that they have to deal with as young
twenty somethings or twenty somethings in young thirty somethings. So like, yeah,
it's weird. So you guys, the reunion is coming up.
Very excited for it and I want to see it's
it's done by the host is Nick Viles, who has
had Yeah he's on reality show.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
What was he on Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (50:36):
He was a Bachelor, and then but his his podcast
has been wildly successful and he's had almost every single
one of them on his podcast to talk about the show.
So him being the host is kind of appropriate. So
I hope he does a good job.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, I agree, all of that's true. And then obviously
you had sent me the TikTok of Taylor, Demi, and Whitney,
all three honey trinity of people that would like to
rule mom talk in whatever in a TikTok together, And
there was a moment where I was like, would it
be so funny if it was like that? But then
like in the very fucking back, like as a little
(51:09):
easter egg to like think that what's gonna happen? It
was either like Jesse or I don't know, like Macy
or Mikayla being like, you know, like they're somewhere somewhere
far in the back.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Anyway, that's your imaginative brain working. Sure, all right, you guys,
thank you so much for joining us. If you like
to see the visuals of what you're listening to, you
really want to see me dance like she does, you
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You get a live every first Monday of the month
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join us at patreon dot com slash Donkiy Sweeteze. Otherwise,
(51:46):
if you can't do that, Chris to tell you the
freeways that you can support us.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Chris Oh yes, honeyme is goal to our social media's
and just make sure you follow in like every single thing.
We are at Doky Sweetye's on Instagram, on TikTok, we
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We are on YouTube and substech and you know we
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(52:09):
we'll talk to you later. Bye bye
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