Episode #152 w/ Keonnie Raheem

Keonnie Raheem’s journey is the definition of second chances. Hailing from the Forest Houses in the Bronx, Keonnie was charged as a juvenile with multiple homicides in Baltimore and sentenced to two life terms. After serving 31 years in prison, his sentence was reduced under juvenile resentencing, and on March 23, 2023, he walked free.

His reentry wasn’t easy, but Keonnie leaned into every resource he could find—participating in “Lifting Stigma” in Maryland for mental‑health support, then moving back to New York under parole. He’s built a life brick by brick: earning OSHA certification through BroConnect, working in HVAC and at Verizon buildings, and meeting weekly with a therapist to stay grounded. He’s even raising funds to reunite with family, writing his memoir “25 of Life,” and launching a clothing line to amplify his message.

 In this episode of Dog in the Yard, Keonnie opens up about growing up in the Bronx, surviving three decades behind bars, and turning trauma into purpose. Tune in to hear how he’s rewriting his story—one day, one step, one dream at a time.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Himself.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
That'll be hope a south darks a over your mouth,

(01:04):
red you less clear?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
That's right?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yo? What up?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
You already knows your boy pistol p walking back to
the dog in the yall? Today we got Kiani Raheem
in the building for one sixty third Street in the
Bronx uh Frost project. Uh Kianni did thirty one years
in prison for multiple homicides in Maryland and Baltimore. And
what that being said, let's get right to, is your
boy pistol Pete dog in the yall?

Speaker 6 (01:57):
What up?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
What else? You already know? What it is? Your boy
pistol Pete walking back the dog in the yard.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
And today we got Keane in the building straight out
of the b x Borough the twenty five of Life Proof.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
What's up? And it's my brother?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Like that?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (02:11):
What's up? Ken?

Speaker 4 (02:12):
How you been man?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Chilling? Bro chilling?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Oh the opportunite in the love man, appreciate you. Appreciate
you too, my brother. It's been real. So since you've
been back, it's been real and we appreciate.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Having you around and we love you. Man.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Just want to let you know that. Man, we'll appreciate
to have that that that security of having a real
one around you. It's different than having any other guy.
You know, you will never get that same feeling when
you have a motherfucker that you know you could count
on his brother, you know what I'm saying, and you
one of those you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
I had pictures of you before we even met for real. Wow,
do remember the black and white picture I showed you?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think it was like with dope. First came home
you and go see him, you and him in Miami facts.
So I had the pictures before I even you know
what I'm saying, out of town.

Speaker 7 (02:56):
So when I get to see you in the flesh
feel me, it was just it was a good feeling.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It was a circle thing.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Now we donna have fun.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
For those that don't know, we don to be them
broke breads so many time, he's I mean, we we
were outside.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Together, that's my brother.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
But now we got him here, were actually taking that walk,
you know what I mean. But for those that don'll know,
you know, don't know, you don't know it, background, don't
know anything about you. Just break down a little bit
about Keanni, your upbringing and all that where you was raised?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Uh, siblings?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
And when what year you started getting yourself caught up
and jammed up and getting in trouble.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, Okay, First, my name is Keanni Rahen. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
I'm from the Bronx hundred Citty third Street Forest Projects.
I raised you know, one parent mother, two siblings under
my mother my father, you know what I mean, I'm
a basket child.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
But my pops, he was married.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
They had a lot of kids, so I got brothers
from my father's side, A lot that I didn't meet
and a lot that I did meet. So and then
you know, I always had like a learning disability when
I was a kid, you know what I mean, Like
it is taking out you know, I couldn't hear it properly,
so that that affected my reading. So I couldn't comprehend

(04:09):
a lot of things. So I was placed in like
special at schools and stuff like that. So after they
diagnosed me with the word mentally disturbed.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Okay, So you know mentally deserved is considered today bipolar.

Speaker 7 (04:22):
Okay, So you know that that had a lot to
do with a turning point of not having identity and
feeling left back, getting left back in class, being the
person that couldn't. But I can always be like around
people and adjust like I'm normal, but I'm not normal
when it came.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
To academic situations, I gotcha.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
So that like intensified the rebelliousness, the connection to the
streets and stuff for that nature. You know what I'm saying,
Because that gave me that identity to feel like, yo,
you know what they they don't even look at me, funny.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know what I mean that I can't read.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
Nobody nobody's thinking about Yo, could you read this? Or
could you eat a book or anything of that nature?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
You feel me?

Speaker 7 (05:02):
So I didn't feel left out when I was in
that element, okay, But when I'm in an academic.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Element, I'm feeling left out.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
And they rewarded you back then for being bad because
you can't read, and they could push you all the
way to the tenth grade and you reading third grade.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Make it makes sense? You know what I can relate
to that.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I can relate to that because I was one of
those I went to special ad AD issues, I went
to jail.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I learned.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
I learned everything in jail. You know what I'm saying.
In the box.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
I learned how to read. You know me, A brother
taught me that. I didn't even know how he looked. He
taught me to the gate, you know, the little the
little half, the little open space in the box. Like, yo,
what you what you want to put you into? I'm
like you like what you mean?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Who you amazed?

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Like? Yo?

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Put why are you bugging out every date?

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Fighting and rebelling against the police and you going off
you fighting them? I hear all the drama. You okay brother?
And I'm like, man, what the fuck is I'm like,
I'm trying to get at him and I'm like, which
well acting me? He's like, yo, just calm down, young brother.
And his nigme was shorty Wop and and he was
in the box a rereading like seven years. We was

(06:10):
holding the box and he was like, yo, Pete, you
know what I'm saying, Like you know, we started kicking.
He was like, yo, brother, just what you what you
want to learn about? And I was like, I would
like to learn like a boy who I am? You
know what I'm saying? My history and all that, and uh.
He started selling me literature from like you know, like
Puerto Rico and this dad and the culture of this
dad and black and this that and what how Porto

(06:31):
Ricans have made and nah, we just started building and
all that and and that's how I learned, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
It was.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
It was tough because I was angry, you know, to
be imagine in a box we're we're not and you
can't read you going fucking nuts man, you and the
motherfucking box. I'm looking for wreck. I'm looking for all
kind of ship police. Come what you said, bitch ass
nigga when I come out this fucking all right, when
we're talking about.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
To for you, if you could get out with you
to get the book, you wilence so hard that they
don't even want to pass it.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
They don't want to know, so they shut you down,
you know that. So but I was, I was.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I was greatful and blessed to find it to this
brother that reached out to me so I know that
I could relate. And the school in school back in
the days they did that, it's like you'll graduate. Because
I went all the way to graduation and all that,
I don't know how the fuck I got there. I'm like,
what the fuck they donna skip me? Like this.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
They rewarded. They rewarded us acting in the chaotic man.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
They were just trying to get rid of us, That's right,
That's what they was. So they didn't give a fuck
about education or anything about us. They were just like,
let's get these motherfuckers out this great put somebody else
deal with them next year.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And that's how they kept going, you know.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
But you know I could relate, like I said, so
at one point, So at what year you started, like,
you know, getting yourself in trouble, you know, and like
what was your mom's you know what she tryed to
like hold you down? Like what year you started got
you know, acted out like what.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Like eighty five, eighty six?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Hold you was?

Speaker 7 (08:02):
I was probably like ten going on eleven. Because I'm
born in nineteen seventy four. You feel my mom's was
a Joba witness from nineteen seventy seven all the way,
you know what I mean, than the Joba witness ever since.
So I never really had no experience where my mom's
neglected me. I never had them type of experience.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know what I'm saying. My mom's being a drug addict,
you know what I mean. I was spoiled you know
what I mean, the youngest, I would spoil you.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
You know what I mean, I got what I wanted.
I used to go traveling. My moms used to take me,
you know what I mean, the Disney World. I'll get
to go to different parts of you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
You got to do all these great all these good
things with your mom.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
Yes, and you know the Joba Witness community back then,
it's so diverse.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I wasn't really prone to feeling like white people
is more superior than black people.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
I didn't have that experience because in that religion, you
got so many different ethnic groups under this umbrella.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
And when we go to a congregation, it's not a
European that's be little on you or talking you in.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
A small type way, y'all breaking Brad.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yes, it was like a spiritual but it didn't feel
something ain't. I didn't connect with it, even though I
didn't know how to read. Even though I know spiritual,
something that's not. That's not my cup of tea.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right there? You feel me?

Speaker 7 (09:18):
You wasn't on that, yes, yes, yes, sure, but my
mom's was yo. She she stayed focused on me, you
know what I'm saying. Stayed everything I did was rebellious
to what she wanted for me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But due to me being young and not really getting the.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
Concept of she ran the streets at one point in time,
she know what this looked like because it's nothing new
under the sun. I'm thinking she don't comprehend because she
never conveyed this to me. You don't look at your
mother like, yeah, my mom's running the streets.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
My moms just.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Doing this, my moms.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
You don't look at it like that.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
You don't even think about that.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Before exactly, She don't curse something like Okay, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
But you know, my grandmother died, and my mom's being
so close to my grandmother, you know what I mean,
it really kind of like really affected her, and by
me being spoiled, like I said, it kind of like
brung a rip between us because she's gonna through she.
I mean, the death of her mother is like the
death of your bailtable, cord Doug fact, Like that's the
person that that's everything to you, no matter what you got,

(10:25):
a loaf of bread or anything. So I couldn't comprehend
that back then. You know what I'm saying, and then
I got the learning disability. Then you know, then I'm
feeling inadequate. Then you in special AD and you're going
to school now, making the special agg kids go against the.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Regular head kids, you know what I mean. Set it off.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
Man, They smarter than us, but you know what I mean,
guess what we could beat them up with our hands.
Sold goofy ship you feel me? So you know it
was it was, it was, you know what I mean.
So then I started like because I like I said,
I'm for forest projects.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So originally we got grand.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Master Flash used to come through there, you know what
I mean, in the community center.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
We had a nice community center.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Every summer time they'll take us to different field trips
and stuff for that nature. So that was really like
my introduction to the streets is through the community center,
not the community center doing corrupted things.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
But all the kids being from different parts.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Of my neighborhood started spreading up and we started.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Like entwining with each other. So that's how I'd be
like Fat Joe and them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
We grew up in the same projects, you know, I mean,
my best friend Rahem, you know what I mean, he
lived underneath that jail.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
So they like that.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
You know, that whole community is like a different family.
So you know what I mean, We got outside, we
got them, and then we got Show Viz. Show Viz
is our big home.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You you know what I'm saying. Then we got Diamond D.
Diamond D's that big. Then we got lawd Finess, you
know what I mean. So Lord for us to We
used to play scales. He's by a bill.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
He the first dude, the teacher nigga how to roll dice,
take a dude to studios, to take dudes to the
studio because I've never experienced being in the studio with
niggas and ship like that. I think it was on
Allaton Avenue, remember around the corner from skate Keie of course,
all right, so it's up the street from there. Okay,
we was in there with the kids. So you know,
I used to be with the rappers, you know what
I mean, and the project.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Exactly, but we didn't know what it be today, Like.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
You didn't know that course, so you know how nobody
that was.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Like an introduction of like cause you know the coach
of hip hop we talked about back then and we
admired dudes, right, and we admined a lot of dudes
in our neighborhood, and we admind a lot of stories
that people used to tell us, you know what I mean,
because I used to be like infatuated with boy George,
you know what I mean, and stuff like you always
hearing this like Bigg said, then you got pow root

(12:53):
back in the day, Howie, rest in peace. You know,
I'm just going on back because you know I'm saying,
like I'm going to the earth where you did.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
What said real friction, like you know, I mean cutting people,
cutting back.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
And thinkas outside for Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Joe over here, you know what I mean, he got
Tony Montana. You know what I'm saying. It was it
was just different.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
So when you're looking at that and you're looking at
the love and the community love, you're like, Okay, But
every dude that we looked up to is a dude
that always took time to look out for the kids
and like looked out for the little dude.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know what I mean. Giving that a little bit
of money, you know what I mean. You might have
a little outfit, he might Yeah here, sure you could
wear this. You know what I'm saying. Now you want
to block you fresh, you feel what I'm saying. And
I was contimped with that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
So when I started getting contempted and I feeling like
my mom's you know, in the neglection stage and she
going through what she going through. Of course once I'm
gonna go to the streets because now he's giving me
that attention, you know what I mean. And they don't
care about my adequacy.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, they don't care about any judging, none of that.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
He ain't being a question or nothing, and them alive
while you feel, yeah, she is, so you good? You
fit right in.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Listen, man, I'm like twelve years old. I'm with this
nigga panession.

Speaker 7 (14:13):
We going to clubs and you know what I mean,
And they giving me a little bit of money just to.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Be with them.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
I'm getting paid just to be with somebody ship that
post to be famous. It's a no brainer, you know
what I'm saying. It's a no fucking brainer. So that's
how that went. Like that, man, I just gotta factuated
with the life.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Man.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
But it wasn't like an intoxicated thing. Where it was like, oh,
you've just seen a whole bunch of.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Abuse. I didn't fall in love with the abuse.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
I fell in love with the strength and the respect
that it held for the community and how I gave back.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, So that's what that was, man. So what what? What? What? What? What?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
When you decide you want to branch over and you
start to get yourself in trouble, like what what? What
year was this that you just scided you?

Speaker 7 (15:01):
We talk about legitimate shub. We talked about board of education.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
We're talking about you know, we're talking about like jail.
We talk about what you want to take a jail man,
jail about you. I don't really get too much of that.
What you want to crazy you? Twelve beach old.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I was on the cours missus. It was the couple
was remember the women crazy.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
They got the girl joints and they had the boy room,
but the room right here had a hole in it,
and we used to sneak over there to bang the
girl real quick.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
And you know what I mean, I want let me
tell you this crazy story.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
Yo.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
My brothers, I ain't when you met, right, he gets
locked up. So he gets locked up.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I'm on mad and Ship.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
I think I locked for a kind of stuff, right,
So I'm like, damn man, miss I gets locked up
on purpose show just to be with him, Right.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
So I gets down there at the beach House.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Right the day I get there, this nigga escaped the
day before.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Something a walk.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
It was probably with what him man, because that joy
was like eighty eight, you know what saying. The nigga
had a bother fucking like a linking car, niddle car
with the Spanish DUDEY left with two.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm a little older than y'all was eighty eighty eight.
I was God Lord, I'm thinking I was on the look.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I'm thinking I graduated from that.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
I'm thinking we're the same age you seventy you said
seventy four.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I got you for you already got about five. Little
look at that to give it now. Joe got me
about five show got me bout me too.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah yeah, but uh that's crazy. But the beach house,
that's greazy. Beach House twelve, that's Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Broke the Cosby. The building looked like the Comedy House building.
Feel me. That's the first time I realized.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I behaved there, I got I gotta pass, Yo.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
This is and I learned not to turn the channel
on Soul Train and bajas one. If you turn that
soul train joint Satdy morning, somebody's punching you in the face.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Dog.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You're killing a man's jerk off moment right there. So
that's what.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
But you know what I mean, sir, yo, I love
this spartit The reason why I loved this sparfle. I
mean when I say loved it, I'm not sure about
loved it like you know, but I liked it when
we was kids because member, they.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Used to give it kangaroos.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
You got the kangaroos sneakers, and then we used to
get the motherfucking on frosted flakes like I used to
have boxes and frosted flakes sho. I thought I was
the man and I could switch my motherfucking kangaroo shoes
because you know, they gotta get them in when they
come in.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I get the freshest ones all the time, Yo.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Spoffle was crazy because family members be right outside yo,
right your what about the hooks?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Flash it?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah it should be crazy room.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Right in the midirty when you were just when they
labeled you just seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Why you be in the room with the window.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, seven thirty, that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
I tell Motherfucker's and Thiefe story and motherfucker's be looking
at me, See I told you that story. I tell
motherfuckers the stories about the fiefee bag.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
They'd be like, no way, yes, be that fuck yes,
shut yes shut.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
We went to some ship he graduated. So when you
when you actually uh, when you stepped up and got
yourself jammed up for real?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 7 (18:37):
So then you know I went to like I said,
I went the beach house. Then I went to uh
spaff it, and then you know, I came home from
like I did like sixty days of smallfed, came home.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And then I got graduated. To write it down, m.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Hm, So I went on the island and that's when
New Jack City came out.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Okay, so how old you was?

Speaker 5 (18:58):
There was like going on like fifteen fifteen, So how
was that going across that bridge?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Man?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
When I first got the C seventy four B, they
had this.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Big ass shoe feet like this is this is a
this is a shoe of a fagot some shit. They
had you know what I mean over the thing. But
they got Ryker's Island. They got the ship on fire
some shit.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So I'm like, damn. So my first day.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
When I'm walking out because you now you got the
intern room right here, so you know how you come
out right here, and you know they got the inffirmary
right here, They.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Got the ym pit right here. Yo. The nigga come
with an extra lip on the side of his face, sir.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
I'm like, Yo, welcome to the island. B nigga got
an extra lip on the side of his face. I'm
sure you know what the lip look like.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
In the fresh one, like when it's wet like that
you just got and he just got in. I'm like
that scared the depth. So you know you go to
six Main when you first go in there, showmen there
little bullshit like I got bailed out. Now I don't
get bailed that let me out on my own reconn. Okay,
But I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
New Jack City came in mind because I was looking
at the shit because I was just wilding though I
ain't really had no purpose. I was just wiling, like
I said, the rapper dudes, they'll pay me to be
with them, right, being fresh with I like to stay
in fresh, so you know, them are the things that
I liked. And I ain't really get into the big jury.
I ain't get into the big cars. I ain't get

(20:26):
into all that. I just like to be around dudes and.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
And we good.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, we're good exactly.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
So I'm looking at New jackshit, I'm like, damn, I
get locked up for a bullshit robbery charge of shit.
I went to Marris because first I went to Jane Adams.
Then I got kicked out of Jane Adams.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Then they put me in probation school over there by Broadway.
I was in that probation school for a while.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Then they sent me back to jam. Then I got
kicked out of Jams again, they sent me to Marris.
Then I got kicked out of Mars and then I.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Went to Clinton.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, same thing.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I went to Clinton, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
After last school, I dropped out of Clinton. So you
know about my Shoela Parkway. You already know about how
we used to hustle on the side before you.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Get down there.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
You already know about it when we roll dice on
the side of the joint. You already know about all that, right,
So when I went there, that's when I was introduced
to a hustling. But I'm really not a hustler though,
but the dudes like my energy. In some way, I
fit into this. So the New jack City shit come
in and I'm like, because I'm on the island for

(21:27):
a bullshit robbery joint. I'm like, Yo, if I ever
get locked up again, I'll be on an island. Yo,
I'm gonna get locked up for a murder or for drugs.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It's what I tell myself. Right.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
It shun two years later and within them two years,
I'm going out of town.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I start going to Baltimore. So go out to Baltimore
chilling this that that got a little bit of money,
you know what I mean. Feeling myself?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I feel like I'm the man you digging. I say,
come back, I'm like a blue collar hustler. I'm not.
I'm not the million dollar dude.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm not that dude that Yo. When I was on
the street, I was I had this, I was running.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
That's not me, Bee. I know the dudes, that's them dudes.
But I like to be me.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Absolutely. You feel what I'm saying, I'm content with me, absolutely,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And being content with me help me have self value
of who the fuck I am. Absolutely, So I go
out there.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
When I go out there, the first time I come back,
first time I ever touched a hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
So I touched a hundred thousand. I think I'm the man.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
I blow a hundred thousand in sixty days. I ain't
think it was possible, but it did.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right. Bought a bunch of nothing for real, just treated
anybody in the hood. You know what I'm saying. I
bought pounds of weed here you smoke. You remember how
you go to the park and they used to have
the checker the chest ward.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Joint and it be two seats over here, two seats
over here, and we all be in the park just chilling.
So we just putting pap look ounces of weed in
each table with everybody, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
And theybody got their boxing Philly blunts. Remember the Philly
blunts we got, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
We get the cases and forties here getting cases and
forties for yall niggas. And now we're gonna drink some
moe because we're going up a little bit. Now we
don't know what we drinking ohe with the pinic lotto,
because that's what we used to drink in our name
with the formula. Some moreman filling myself and I got
my brother, like I told you that lived under Fat Joe.
They lived in the same building named Rayen one thousand. Yeah,

(23:29):
that's why my name Keannie Ryane. And we's best friends.
So of course you know you with your man, you
getting money? Now you they'na saying, I come back. I
shared my money with him, shared my money with my brother.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Were on top of the world.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
So nobody can't tell you nothing.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
What come on, bet my man, that's take me out there.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
We got the money green MPV with the BBS's on
it sive me in an edition nineteen ninety ninety one.
Come on, man, hey, Steve b you know what I'm saying.
So I want out of town. Of course you want
to share that with your man.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yo, I'm trying to go out of town with you.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
So I used to have little episodes with them due
to me being a New York dude and I'm young,
so I wasn't like a dude just showed me the ropes.
I fell into a program, right, Not that I built
this block up from the ground up. No, somebody took
me out there. It was already set up and it
was a rotation, and they telling me what to do,
and I gotta follow these routines to make sure this

(24:25):
shit moved like a well old machine. This is how
you get that one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
This is how you get that money. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
And make sure nobody take nothing over here. Be nobody.
I don't care what they tell you, what they trying
to do. Don't let nobody take nothing from you. So
this is instructed in my mind.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
You dig what I'm saying. So nigga hit me with yo,
what's your name? What you're gonna call yourself?

Speaker 7 (24:52):
So I was like, you know that Ice teav video.
It came out back in the days. It's called og
Original Gangster Older the motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
So I'm out there and it got a it's called
video juke box.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Oh yeah, video okay.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
So they just play videos in the cycle.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, all day, all day, but video box.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
So if if you catch it, if if if it's
video is a hot video.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
It's it's gonna continue rotation all day.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
So it's hypnosis in my mind. So niggas says, man,
what's your name? What's your name? And it keeps hearing that,
shall I say, O G right? So the lady I
go on Baltimore Street, the lady we call her Monk.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
She like, baby, what's your name? I said my name
O G. She said, oh J. I said my name
O G. She keeps saying O J right.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
So I don't wanna be disrespectful because the nigga said, Yo,
this week, this is mull this is where we gotta
have out.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I don't know how to I've never been in Baltimore.
The damn if. I never even knew where the fuck
Baltimore was at.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Son right, it's a whole new world for you.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
I don't know nothing about Baltimore. So she like, oh,
I said, yeah, yeah, my name OJ. So that's when
they started calling me down there, oh J right. That's
how I got that name, right, So go back to
my mayor rods. So you know, were excited, Yo, come
on man, we're gonna go out of town because I'm
a young dude. And like I told you, it was
an organization ran by well old machine.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
But the dudes that was part of the organization with
the dudes.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
From Baltimore, right, those people.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
No, they were selling drugs for the people that.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
I was with.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
Okay, but the transformation had to come because I'm a
New York dude. Of course I'm gonna be treated a
little different than them. I'm getting paid seventy thirty though,
you know what I'm saying. They getting paid seventy thirty.
But this is they neighborhood, this is they town.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
That's the hood, that's they shit.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
So I'm the one dude and they're showing up that
how the thing go. But now I got my packs.
Now I'm doing my thing, you feel me. So it's
a little friction sometimes. But I was by myself and
I didn't feel comfortable, you know what i mean.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Being out there by myself.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Yeah, I'm a tough guy, But how tough could you
be when you're in another town, you know what I mean?
So I bring my man Rahiem out there. You know,
we go out there, I mean, enjoy ourselves. We're gonna
about to We're gonna come back, We're gonna do it.
His girl's pregnant at the time, you feel me say, yo,
you're gonna be the goldf other my kid, this that that, So.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
You know, we go out there, we make it happen.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
And we getting a confrontation with one of the Baltimore
dudes that's supposed to be part of our team.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Now before I come, it was a gun missing.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
They stole a gun even though, and they owe the
other dude partner.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
The dude that brought me out.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
They had a partner, right, so he would deal with
these kids, you know what I mean, the Baltimore kids, right,
because they wasn't like adults.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
They was kids.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
We was minus you what I'm saying, you can always
have a yah. So the friction is all ready geographical location.
They don't mind taking the pack from a New York dude.
That's because he's not in.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Their way, right.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
But now you give him a pack, you let him
run the block. And now you bring another New York
dude that's in they age racket, and you're leaving him
and they perimeter and he's doing the same thing they doing.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
How you think they gonna look at that hold?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
What's going on here?

Speaker 7 (28:26):
They gonna look at the infiltration. So they started taking
the gun. Oh, we lost the gun started coming short
a little bit of money. Oh you know what I mean,
we short to start that right. But the thing is,
we all shared the same stash house, m because I
lived all in Baltimore. Where we was hustling at was

(28:46):
the slums. Where I lived at, where they had us
living at.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Was in the suburbs. Okay, you follow what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
So it ain't like I came to Baltimore and I
was in a back alley house.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Brack house, and you know what I mean, go back
hole safe.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, the niggas had me in the subury, in a
big ass house. You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Where I like when the ship that you see in
the movie, when you be seeing all the drugs, all
the money, all the guns. You remember back in the
days how we used to put your mom's had the
shoe rack behind the door.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Remember that joint, Yeah, sh that hangs over the yo.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
Son, I go on the crib. The dude that was
bringing me out there, it's on God beat. The nigga
had ten thousand dollars stacks in each of the joints.
This is the first time ever, like look at this shit.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like in real time like what the fuck? Guns I
got options and guns I could touch now, like damn
coke keys, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 7 (29:44):
Like this is different when you step out as a
suburb area. They don't even know what the fuck they
got in this when we got in this house right.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Here, so they don't know what they got in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
What yo.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
And then when we leave out, we used to have
a sneak of boxes because we bag up all the
g packs and put them in a sneak a box
and we'll walk like that and go all the way
to the west side because we was in West Baltimore
spot Cort Hollands and Pulaski.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Of the ship Coll Hollands and Pulaski.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
So anyway, making long story, sure, the dude took the
gunmentes that that and we all shared the same stash
spot and the dude wound up taking me and Raheem's PC.
You follow me like we was getting paid seventy thirty
you think I'm saying, but.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, we was getting paid. We was getting paid.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
All right.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Good, just.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Suppose have been on this one this one. Oh you
got it? There you go?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I god.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
Yeah, So we used to get paid seventy thirty. So
we had, like I said, like thirty forty packs. We
the dude that took me out of town and set
we knocked they up. We knocked their money out, you
know what I mean. Ryber like, Yo, we're gonna get
day money out the way first and then all this
money right here, it's our PC.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yo. I'm like, yeah, give him their money, you know
what I'm saying. We're chilling.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
We in the house the day before you know, Rod passed,
We in the house, were chilling, We excited, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
We on the phone, he calling up New York. Were
like a.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
So the nigga get to playing with the gun, right,
he's playing with the gun and one of the guns
in the house and the gun go.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Off pop, Like yo, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You know what I mean? Like oh my full my foot,
like yo, you bugging playing with the gun.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
So the other dude, that was the dude that brought
me out, partner, he comes in the house. He picks
that same gun up, right, and the gun go off again,
almost hit rid.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's in the bathroom, almost hit my accident, and that
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
The third time, man might be the end right, So
we go back to the block. We go to the
block we excited rushing about this hour PC. Everything we
doing on this block is for us.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Now. The fucking shit gone, yo, m hmm.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
The Baltimore Young niggas, them niggas is motherfucking and Virginia
shopping somewhere.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Right to the PC and ran off.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Where you getting money to go shopping for?

Speaker 7 (32:31):
And you owe this motherfucking money every time you sposted,
you old nigga money. What are you shopping for when
you got money to shop? So I'm like, damn, you're
a man. You're I'm I'm like, cause I feel like
I bring this my brother out here, and I bring
them out here to put us in a winning position.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
You know what I mean? This is right here. This
is like when I was growing up.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
You hear about the family, You hear about ts, you
hear about you know what I mean, siping.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
You hear about all of these.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
Crews of niggas. That's moving, chicky. You know what I'm saying,
moving in the unit. Niggas getting bred, you know what
I mean? Like this like this supreme team, real ship
like you like yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Mom style boy, George obsession all of that.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
You wanna you wanna be in a hood, realm of
being recognized like that.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You feel me? And that was our shot when we
was going to Baltimore. You dig know what I'm saying.
So I'm out there chilling because I was out there
with the crew called the Family.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
Okay, they west side dudes. Okay, you know I'm from
the East side. Okay, Nigga, that that that took me
out of town. It is from the west side, the Family.
So that's a big They was doing it big, you
know what I mean. But they was going out of town.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So boom looking for the dude. Blah blah blah bop.
See the dude. This dude just frush the death sun.
You know.

Speaker 7 (33:56):
Back then Baltimore, Douche had a Heroin bones. They liked
that thick hero bones, you know, I mean the flat
hero bones. And then he had to flat hero I
will never forget this. Nigga out for yo, Nigga at
the Heron Bone. He had a bow Jackson T shirt on.
He had some guest shorts.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And he had some gray, black and white bowl Jackson's on.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
He walking down the street. I see the dude, Yo,
what happened to this step.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
I just stuck gunning this dude out right on, rip
him off me and Rod jumps him.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
We do the same New York shit that we do.
You feel me.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
But you now they say every victim ain't the same victim.
Your last victory is not good enough for the next
one that you think for your next opponent.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
So we were young. We don't know rips the nigga,
this that.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, we're doing the money.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Did them dirty? Okay.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
The only reason why we didn't really do him dirty
because like I just conveyed.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
To you, he was part of it, the team. You
understand what I'm saying. Yeah, so he got that gotta
be sanctioned.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I can't just me beating that nigga up.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
I try to beat the nigga because you know, back
then they as sky pages and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
So I definitely called the dude.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
To inform him of the grievance that just went on.
You know what I'm saying, I definitely try to contact him.
If he don't hit me back what I supposed to do,
I gotta.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So we do the dude dirty, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Go back the gun I'm telling you that they stole
he wind up having that gun, got.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
The shit wrapped up like a in a towel or something.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Right now, you know, Baltimore is you know the houses,
the rowhouses is different. So me and Rob were walking
back and were walking up the block. While we walking
up the block, the dude's coming down the block. While
he's coming down the block, I see him. So I'm like,
I'm on again. I'm ready to get him again. But

(35:58):
he already got ship plot all the baldermore. Youm Baltimore
dudes right here on the on the porch. So he
climbs up on the porch on the outskirts and I'm
following him. I don't know that I'm following him to
his gun. Raheem is on the outskirts like here, this
is what we do.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
We you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
We we cowboys with we kids, yo. We don't have
to have a gun. We coming at you with a
gun without a gun, you know what I mean. That's
just how we move. So I'm following him. And when
I follow him to the last porch, that's where he
had the gun wrapped in the tail, and he picks
the motherfucker me and points.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
It in my face like, oh shit, Y'll get the
bucking at me. I'm like, oh shit, you know, you know,
you gotta a fight, fight a flight, you know what
I mean. But I'm not in the perimeter to grab
a gun.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
So I'm like boom. So I'm like, he's bucking at me.
But the gun that they stole, the clip is fucked up.
So you gotta hold on to the clip because you know,
when you're shooting the ordo, the shit gotta hold up
in there for the bullet that go.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And then the other one to go.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
If it's off by an angle, it's going to jam
the whole gun. So the nigga holding on the joint
bucking Bob. He probably shot like two three tails, but
it felt like it was twenty. So Rob's on the
side of him, so the nigga had a dead eye.
Rob try to get the dude from the side to
you know, to protecting, and the dude just I don't
know if his senses came off for what just turned

(37:25):
around he hit Rob. So I'm like, oh ship, well,
now don't hear the gun the bullets coming.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
In my direction? But I had another bow. I'm like, oh, shit.
Now I'm looking at Rod so I see round on
the ground. I'm like, boom.

Speaker 7 (37:40):
So the nigga's like on top of round. I'm like,
he got the gun. He puts the gun in my face. Now,
I told you about the clip that he must have
like let it on something for the When he pulled
the trigger, it jammed the bullet because he had the
gun on my face like this to shoot him because
I'm over run now because I'm trying to stop him from.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Continue to do what he's doing. So he got the
gun in my face and it bopped jams. I slapped
the ship boom.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
But you know when a nigga did with a nine,
it's like, I mean, the entry wound is like you
just bumped your head.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's not like in TV where they be looking at
the front of the back is like that. But the
entry wound is like you know what I mean. I
see him like he hit his head.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
I'm like, damn, but you're good, Like I see he
ain't moving, but I see the dude spill off.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
You feel me?

Speaker 7 (38:36):
And then Baltimore, they don't call her the ambulance when
when when an emergency had.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
They call a fire truck she called a fire truck.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
I'm like, damn, they pushing me back, this, that, that,
and you know that, the ambulance came and you know,
I'm looking in the joint, him crying, going crazy, and
I just see him dead. I seen his belly button
because I know you always keep his belly but you
know this, my man, And I was like, yo, shit
destroyed me being mm hmm. I felt like a fucking failure.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Yeah, that shit was tough. That's trumpa like the motherfuckers.
And he was a young when you was young and
just to go and he was there with.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
You, and he got a kid coming, you know what
I'm saying. Then you going back and people like thinking
that like it went to the extenting.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
You set in your best friend up and.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Yeah, people always gonna remix the ship, you know, sound
travels and shit. So by the time he gets to
fourth person to be a whole different ship. What was
the real reason he brung him out there? And all
kind of fucking funny shit.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
All that did was turned me into what they consider
you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
It caused me to do thirty one years in the
Maryland State Prison, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
What I mean?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yes, So so you wanna you wann up going to
jail for.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Multiple yeah, yeah, had I had had five homicides Okay, yeah,
they cause I got convict for two of them. Okay,
they dropped the last three.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
You know you're not you know, yeah, they said they
do it.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's just the way the system. But yeah,
you got five, Sure you get two. That's all it
is too.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Yeah, but they cause you know why they're giving you
the consistent I mean consecutive uh huh. They knowing that
your case be weak. So just in case you get
a time back for this case, you still got.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Your You still got your same thing.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Like when they give you life, you could beat one
life and then you still have another life exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That's what happened to me. Yeah, yeah, that's what happened
to me. So when I turned like at the age
of nineteen.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
So you what you got caught for? You were in
jail for five bodies? Yeah and Baltimore.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
Yeah, I was indicted for five homicides Baltimore. Yeah, in Baltimore,
and I went on the run. Okay, yeah, I didn't
get caught in more put on the run, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
He was on the run for how long?

Speaker 7 (40:49):
I probably did like ninety days on the run. On
the run, you know, I mean, I'm just doing ninety days.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Then you got caught.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
That was the most words is experience ever? Yo, Being
on the run is miserable.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Oh yeah, it just sucks.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I was on the run too. I was wanted coming
out on TV and that gotta have me Maryland. Yeah,
they have me on the Maryland.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Just sucks, man, because you can't really move. I mean
it's like, damn soon shoe a lady. You gotta face down.

Speaker 7 (41:16):
Not only that you all when I say that, I'm
telling about myself, but when you is on a run
and you acted for any type of level with sisters,
right and somebody don't do it.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
I don't give a fuck. If you go to the.

Speaker 7 (41:29):
Store and get me, it magnifies that they're crossing you.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I don't have time for this ship. You know, I'm
on a run. Door like, I need you to assist me.
You know what I mean to get to my destiny.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
You gotta move fast, you do change.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, so I did ninety days.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
On the run, then you got caught.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
We in New York. Yeah, I got locked up in
New York. Okay, I knocked off man for an unrelated charge.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Man, Okay, they just pickedated charge.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah I was.

Speaker 7 (41:55):
I was like, you know, you get I had a
habit of getting a little bit of money.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I had to have it, you know, I mean a
trick habbit.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
Your niggas in a habit of you know what I mean,
staying fried and being in New York after being in
Baltimore like that. It was a different transition because I
never hustled like that in New York.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
You know what I'm saying. I never had nobody to
really give me that shot that, you know what I mean.
The dude that took me out of town gave me.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
You feel me, I got you, So it was like
it was different.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
I mean, you know back then, whatever skill you got.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, so you get caught.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I get pinched when you got caught at with my projects?
Right Jane Adams hanging out?

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Man, Yo, this this story is the most craziest story
ever be So I'm on to run.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
So you know, I used to go to Jane Adams.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
So I go to a pizza store and we're coming
back from the Peace school and this girl pulls up
on me.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I don't even remember this girl. She's like, Yo, you
tell my girlfriend.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
The second I said what, So this girl follows me
from Prospect Avenue all the way till one hundred and
sixty third Street to Johnson Chicken.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Man, Yo, I told my man I was walking with.

Speaker 7 (43:01):
I said, Son, if she been around this corner, I'm
gonna crack in his head with this fortier. I'm tired
of he in this girl mouth man. And she came
around the corner and I cracked in the head with
the forty. Oh my god, cracked in the head with
the forty. You know the police that the t uh

(43:22):
that the school police.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
He remembered me.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (43:27):
So once that happened, the warrant comes in because I
was locked up. They had me under Omar Johnson, so
they looking for me, but they don't really know where
I live at You thick, I'm saying, they don't got
my address.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
Because I got locked up in Baltimore two for a
burner timp. But they bailed me out. So that's the
only reason why they had.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
My mug shot. You feel me?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
You was that?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Nah?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I wound up getting out on my own recond they
took a mug shot.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
The mug shot.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
Locked everything up because they all kept hearing O J.
But they never had my face, you know what I'm saying.
So I banged the girl in the hand, right, I
come out the next day.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I used to go to uh. I used to be
up there by eat him on okay, and I used
to be with the dude, and then we used to
hustle up there. While I'm on a run, I called
myself hustling with for real.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
I grabbed one of my men's and I say, come on,
you stay on the block and you hustle and I
get the PC off your joint.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
You thin, I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
And I'm gonna just ride around with the dude that
be running the joint and he gonna pay me too.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
That's where my mind was at.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
On some nigga, I'm the nigga buying the drug. I'm
the one supplying it.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
What is you doing? You think is you tough?

Speaker 7 (44:40):
When you think because you could bang a gun, you
think that's we get a thousand people to do that.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
We need you for that.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
But I ain't looking at it like that. I grew
up in the in the in the altitude where I.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Was rewarded to being like that gotcha. So that's all
I know. So yeah, then next thing you know, I
come outside the fucking police. It's a whole bunch of police.

Speaker 7 (45:04):
They got the remember the you know, the police truck
right here, and they got the light on the top
of the joint and go in the projects and go
see the particular floor and put the whole light.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
You can't see nothing. Man, they got all out in
front of my building. So I'm coming out. I ain't
living with my mom's at the time.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
I was living like on Eagle Avenue, so nobody knew
that though, So I'm like, damn, I'm telling him. I said, Man,
the police, I don't I'm thinking, you know, do sell
drugs in the neighborhood, so maybe they did a raid
or something.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I'm not thinking they're looking for me. So I'm like, yo,
I'm gonna go see my mom's later.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
So I go to the projects across the street where
I live at with McKinley's because I'm from Forrest, goes
up in there.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Jane Adams is right across the street. Now, I told
you about the the school police.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
The nigga sees me going in the building and he
tells the police. Yo, he's going in the building. The
elevat it on work this day in the building, son.
So I goes in there with press the elevator waiting.
The door locked, the front door lock. We see the
police knocking on the door. My man, that's in the building.
We're going to see him. He's like, Yo, it's man pole.

(46:15):
I said, you don't open no door for no police
gonna help them raid somebody house.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Man, You crazy. I'm I ain't thinking they're coming for me, yo.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
The whole time.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Man, the little kid come down the steps, run past us.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
Soon as he opened the door, they pushed that nigga back.
They got the infrared on the motherfucker they got. I
got the little brun on me like this, yo, peete son.
I took the longest pull of this marijuana. His blunt
in my life, Yo. That nigga hit me dead in
my chest.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I said, yo, yo, you what it Yo?

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Your name O?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
War John said, no, my name aint no Omar John's.
You got the wrong dude. Be my name is Keanne
you honey God? Yeah, nah dog, we got the right one.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
That shit was crazy, sir. And that was it man.
That was the rap Nty extra. Then I was on
the island.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Yeah, it went back to the island.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah. So when I way, I came back through the island.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
I came back in ninety I got locked up October
twenty ninth, nineteen ninety two. Okay, so I played the
island before I got extra dighted. I played it all
the way to January tenth.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Okay. I was on the island with like fruit Corn.
I was on the island where the Twins and Darren King.
I was on the island with the Due. So I
did ninety days before Baltimore came.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
And got you. Ye came and got you.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (47:39):
So when it came, it got me called the extradedy
back to Baltimore, you know what I mean. And you
know I went through the arrainment situation. Then I went
over city jail. That city jailer is like Racket's Island.
The only thing different about city jail is they don't
swing razors.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
They swing niles. Okay, you know, you gotta learn how
to be an official night fighter. So we over there.
Your city jail was crazy and Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
How long you was there before you got you went
to trial.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, of course, of course.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
So you went to trial.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
You had you had, you was you was uh you
was wonder for five homicides. Yeah, and you wanted up
beating three of them.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
They dismissed it three okay, and you got and I
went to trial for the last two. You got how
much time got two life sentences consecutive.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
And how long you have the two life sentences as.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Far thirty one years?

Speaker 7 (48:29):
I gave one back, pro say, Remember I said, we
didn't know what I mean. Remember you broke down when
you was locked up, and a dude, that's the same
similar situation in me, Do help educate me, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And once he did that, he empowered me.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
And with that empowerment, they assist me to be able
to learn the law, learn my case. Really and I
was able to articulate myself to a man and to
get one of my time back, you know I mean, pro.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Say, showing till you got one of the life sentences back.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Yeah, and I had a codefender on the other life
sentence that I had.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Man, she was still had still had one more life.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
Censes just like we just said, give you two lives
in Yeah, executive one.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
So just that happened to you, what happened to me? Okay?

Speaker 5 (49:09):
So do you have two life sentences, then you be
one and then you still have one?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Then what happened with that one?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
See?

Speaker 7 (49:14):
Then, my rat buddy, we was shortly tried. He wound
up giving this case back on the post conviction. But
in New York it's considered a haviest corpus okay uh,
basically saying that the trial council was ineffective for not
objecting to this or you know, fiuling these type of
particular issues.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Right, So.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
You went back on, you went back to court and
they re verse the life sentences to to to what
or they just oh nah?

Speaker 7 (49:41):
He my rat buddy, he did sixteen years, right, and
then he gave his time back based on ineffected.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
System council, and you did thirty one and then you
got the same thing.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
But when he had his sixteen years in that was
in eight.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
We was locked up since nineteen ninety, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Like I said, ninety two to eight, he went home.
I'm thinking due to us jointly being tried.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
What applied to him applied to mes that didn't happen.
They kept denying me, kept denying me. They denied me
like twenty five times. Son, Wow, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (50:15):
And I was in the right because under the fourteenth Amendment,
equal protection of the law, if you say an error
is in his case, which is a jury instruction.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Which affected both our trial, why I'm not entitled to
the same relief facts. And now you're.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
Telling me that one circuit court judge can make a
decision and another circuit court judge don't have to honor
the other judge decision. I'm like, well, I don't get that.
So that's what was my consistent fighting.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
That I had dudes like you know, Dope, Rose, Dope,
you know what I mean, my brother, you know what
I mean, them type dudes. They held me down and
they gave me hope. Even every time I got shot down,
they still gave me hope. He still told me that,
you know what I mean, you're gonna get out, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
They gave me some.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Type of what eventually happened, Oh, eventually, you know what
I mean. Because you know, God is great, you know
what I'm saying. He's always the best players, you.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Know what I mean. So they had a juvenile issue.
And when I got locked up, I was a juvenile.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
So by me being a juvenile and at that time
he getting shot down twenty five times, right, the consistency
showed the level of my maturity. The juvenile acts say
that you have to demonstrate some type of level of
maturity you they could say of change. They were saying
that you can't give a juvenile life in prison due

(51:36):
to their brain not.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Fully being development. It's true. So boom, that's what got
me out. So the judge that you shot me down
twenty five times at the same judge that let me go.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Hm, so you did thirty one years?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and you've.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Been ob hollo.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Now today today make two years.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
To Actually I'm talking about this is a beautiful day
because two years because with me and you met each
other at the yacht point.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah that was in twenty twenty three. Yeah you feel me.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
So now you two years, two years and what you've
been doing.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
Oh man, you know, first you know me and you
discussed this and just like you're talking about the trauma,
you know, first thing I was I had to focus
on is getting a therapist, right, you know what I mean.
I can't feel like I'm gonna be successful in anything
in life if I don't have no type of level
of mental stability.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Gotcha, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (52:33):
And plus you know it's a culture shot. You've been
going for so many years. I don't care what you think.
You know what you think.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
You read all that.

Speaker 7 (52:41):
Shit that you that made you feel like you was
a philosopher and the joint dish right here is the
real deal.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
It's the real real shit.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
You know what I'm saying, Because you gotta paid bills,
gotta be you know. It's it's different when I left
the streets, and dudes might consider a person getting money
because they ain't have responsibilities.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
So that's why I look the bigger than life.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
Because people that really got responsibilities, you they're gonna say
they're the ones that really get money, yeah, because they
can maintain any lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
I wasn't taught that. I didn't have an opportunity to
grow into that.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
So what you've been doing two years?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
So then I then once twenty five life prove yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's my family right there.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
That saying what's going on with that, you got your making.
What kind of moves you guys are doing. You got
clothes going on, You got a lot of things going on.
You look at flies heaven' you know what I mean?
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Twenty five? A life thing? I always you know what
I mean, Like it started at eighty eight, you know,
is the good has started? He from Kelly.

Speaker 7 (53:48):
So you know how the you tall against the introduction.
That's how we because we didn't grow up. We're not
sandbox dudes. You feel them saying I got you.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
We rivals, you know what I mean? Same way with
you know what I mean ts. Yeah, were saying box in
like projects, but we rivals.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Within the projects.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
But when we leave the project and we leave a block,
we won unit.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Youe what I'm saying, because no matter how you look
at it, like I just said, but he an't lived
right under.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
The joke, Yeah, y'all a couple of the same place.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
You know what I mean. So we ain't gonna that's exact,
We ain't gonna.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Be having an issues between each other and the block.
But when you off the block, wherever you're at, I
got you.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
So that's the love that we got you. What I'm saying. Yeah,
so you know, we became twenty five of life. The
introduction is you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
I had to set it off on one of they
and they're like, you know what, you know, Shyenne, he's
a he's a.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
He's a great producer. I'm just going on that. He's
a great producer.

Speaker 7 (54:49):
And you see the potential in somebody you know, how
to like put you in, to fit you, to make
it highlight his moment.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
You feel what I'm saying. So, you know, once we
took that on, that identity, you know what I'm saying,
it was like that was it. It was like a brotherhood.
It was it wasn't really based on like twenty five
of life.

Speaker 7 (55:10):
We was like, yo, you know what if we get
twenty it's like we running the streets like we're doing
twenty five of life. And when we go up for parole,
we're not talking about parole real parole, but we say
when we be together for twenty five years, that solidified
that we brothers for the rest of our life. Fact,
that's the life sign, that's the you know what I'm saying.
So that's what was the motivation with that brotherhood unity.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
You know what I'm saying, exactly what we're doing that,
exactly how you're moving that.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
Yeah, so I you know, not to cut your peace,
but you know what I mean. I'm just learning how
to get this closed thing gone.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
You feel me. I'm not an expert. I don't have
the direct line.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
I'm open for people to educate me because I'm in
a printh stage in my life right I'm trying to
get around the people that's going to assist me to
be able to learn to take it to that next level.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I don't have the answers, you feel me.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Yeah, well, I think I got somebody that you have.
You met JB before, you haven't talked to him. Up
and my seat. I'm gonna put you on with him
because he's doing sweat suits. His sweats is hot, guard
talk they sell him.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah yeah yeah, like.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Got the guard talk sweat and they they hot. So
I might put you know, put you on with him.
He might give you some insight or how to step
it up and get and get your even though you're
doing a great job, I've seen some of the ship.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
You got and you have done. Okay, okay, gotta get
over here, I gotta get let me.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
See, go get your joint. But see, I know what
you be represented. I don't want you to think. You
know what I mean, I'm neglecting Kate.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Man, you got.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
That's not so I had to get you back to
you know what I mean. The day one situation right here?

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Okay, Oh that's crazy. Yeah yeah, that's crazy. Sifer's boys,
you already know what it is.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yes, I love it. Yeah yeah yeah yeah because the
weather breaking, so I ain't want to give you the
thick stuff.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Yeah yeah yeah to make sure. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
We are, you know, twenty five of life a boy
kany home two years a day. You know what I'm saying,
we might have to celebrate. They don't go break break
break bread. That's what we always do is break bread
and have fun.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Hear this?

Speaker 5 (57:28):
So what, so, what's your plans for the future, Like
what you what you got going on, what you think about,
what you what, what's what you plan on doing with
as far as the clothes and what's your motivation as
far as what's next for you?

Speaker 7 (57:40):
Oh yeah, like right now, I would like you know
what I mean, to get some type of assistance and
publishing this book that I got.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (57:46):
I know that I got a good story, and you know,
I mean just the relatability of what you just said
about the you know, the learning disability and being a
special at and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
That's not too many things that people feel too.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I got somebody for you too for that.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
We never talked about that, but now that you mentioned it,
I got somebody I got. I got a company that
they would assist you and getting that book. Proce I'm
gonna put me introduce yourself.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so that gotta be me. Yeah, that'll
be there.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
And then being able to talk to the youth basically
the things that you do because it's it's you like
to do things that you love that that that.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Yeah, you me love it.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yes, that's natural. Like you know what I mean. I
got a job now you feel me?

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
So yeah, I'm still on parole okay, yeah, yeah, but
I'm being supervised. New York is supervising it.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Okay. You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Because I was locked up in Maryland, they put me
on probation to give me time service or suspended for
five years okay.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
And then when he transferred it to New York. They
put me on parole.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
For five years. But the thing is, I was like,
damn probation parole. But they were saying the nature of
my crime, they don't have anybody in New York on
probation with it. I got you, So that's why I'm
on parole post their judge ordered me to be on probation.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I got You's all right. You home, you hope you
bless you healthy. You know what I'm saying, You're doing
what you gotta do for your mental because mental it's
very important. You know.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
We talked about that. You remember the time when like
we talk, I was talked to you.

Speaker 7 (59:13):
I was like going through you was like, nah, I've
been through that same transition. It's like you you definitely
you know, I mean walk me through certain things, but
I felt inadequate on certain thing.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
What the relatability was your music?

Speaker 7 (59:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because a lot of people is ashamed
to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Naw, I'm a kick it.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
See you, I'm gonna let you know, like he don't
don't take that, don't go that route. You know what
I mean, Like, just stay easy, you know, because the
most important thing when you come home is to be patient.
You know what I'm saying. So you already know how
to carry yourself. You got all that, you know how
to respect all that. We comform where we we was at.
We was raised in prison. You know what I'm saying.
So you already know. We we bump, we we we automatically.

(59:51):
We already we walk. We walk around with respect. You
know what I'm saying. We respect everybody. We were humble,
we cool. You know what I'm saying. Listen, man, my
thing to you is keep doing what you're doing. You
know what I'm saying. I'm here to help you in
every aspect as far as the book. You know what
I'm saying. I'm gonna put you on with JB. You
know what I'm saying, And keep going, keep growing. You

(01:00:13):
know what I'm saying. I'm happy that you was able
to come home. I mean, you had two life sentences
for you to be home. It's a super blessing. God
has blessed you. You're healthy. You know you hear you
on Dog in the Yard. You was able to, you know,
come back and be able to hear let your voice
be heard on Dog in the Yard. I mean, because

(01:00:34):
this is what This platform is created for for those
brothers that never had a voice, because you know, most
of us that we have been in prison, we never
had a voice, you know what I'm saying. So this
is the platform is here for that, so you you
could be heard, so we can be able to grow
and let let all that go, and let and let
Most importantly, it's for the youth, so they could know

(01:00:56):
that it's real. You could get like two life sentences.
You could go through the same ship that Kenny went through.
You know what I'm saying, if you don't get the
help that you need, because we probably would have been
different if you would have got probably the help and
the therapy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
And and and and and all that that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
He needed when he was a child, If you would
have got that a little bit and take or at
least take it more seriously, because he probably was getting
it and didn't even care about it. But you know
those things like that, it's very imperative to do get
your mental health right because mental health is a very
serious issue, you know what I'm saying. So if you're
going through something, don't be ashamed. We're live, we live,

(01:01:32):
we live in a different era. You know what I'm
saying where where you don't need to be ashamed of
all that shit. Back in the days, it was like
almost like it's like tad man, it's therapyle, that's the
white people shit and all that. So no, guys, I'm
just letting people know that. Listen, it's serious. It is
very important to get the help you need. If you

(01:01:52):
got mental problems, mental health issues, you want to be
questioned about it. Just it's never go check yourself out,
go go handle your business man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
It's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
And with that being said, man, Kanye, I want to
you know what I mean, thank you so much. I
appreciate you, my brother. You know what I'm saying for
coming and having you here today, you know, sharing your
wisdom and all the trials you know, you know and
you know all the shit that you went through.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Make because it's real. You know what I'm saying. And uh,
and it's a blessing to have you here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
And with that being said, you already knows your boy
pistol pe dog in the yall. What are you already
knows your boy pistol p Walking back to the dog
of the yard. First and foremost, I want to thank
Kianni for coming through.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
That's my hobing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
I wanna, you know, point out the fact that Kanny
did thirty one years, got his life together. He's aware,
he's out here getting the help that he needs. He's
not a shame of it. You know what I'm saying.
For those that ever need counseling therapy, you know that
you feel that you have mental health or anything going on,

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don't be ashamed, Go get the help you need. And
I want to salute Kanni for having the courage and
stepping up and let it be know because the people
out there that needs to see the youth, they need
to see that there's nothing wrong with getting mental health.
You know what I'm saying. He's home after serving thirty
one years, he's building his brand, twenty five a life,

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and we're here to support him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
And you already know your boy Pistol Pete dog in
the yall

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Being alive, shout shine