Episode #169 w/ Big Brizzle

Born and raised in Jersey City, Big Brizzle grew up the youngest of six — with a nine-year gap that shaped how he looked at the world. Athletic, book smart, and influenced by his older brothers, Brizzle’s path shifted early. By 13, he was already in and out of jail.

What started as strong-arming quickly turned into stick-ups, hustling, and eventually becoming known as a “work horse” in the streets and inside the system. His reputation was built on being fearless — from crushing rivals to clashing with police and COs — and he lived by simple rules: don’t touch me and hold your tongue.

From 2001 to 2006, he did a bid that solidified his name. By his own words, he spent more than half his life behind bars. But today, things look different. Having been home a little over two years — his second-longest stretch of freedom since age 13 — Brizzle is focused on building. He tried real estate, passed the test, but was denied his license. Now he’s working in the construction union and looking ahead to new opportunities.

This is the story of Big Brizzle — from decades of incarceration and a life defined by taking, to a man determined to build something real.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Himself.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
That'll be.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hope a South darks a over your mouth red you
less clear? That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
With up with up?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
With up your boy BX tone shout out to the
BX borough. Welcome back Dog in the yard today. We
got big Brizol coming from New Jersey. Listen, Brizil was
a problem. Stabbed twelve times, shot three times, three, four
or five different bids. Yo, listen, let's get to it.
Dog in the yard, What up?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
What up?

Speaker 5 (01:49):
You know what it is?

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Your boy, Pistol Pete, Welcome back to the dog in
the yard today. I got my co host with me
tone from the BX borrel.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
With up with Up with up BX tone aka, how
shamn't we in the building talking to the Brodie Big
Brazil from the from Jersey City.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Holler at me.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh man, it's good song. It was a good pie.
Good to see you already, man, Man.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Appreciate your jersey sitting in the building.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
What what's go with you? What's go with you? Talk though?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Man?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know how long you've been back.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
I've been back now for like two years, a couple
of months. It's beautiful. I'm great to be free again. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
God just loving the life right now, that's right.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Ain't nothing like being free.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
You can't be.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
There, man, Joky, I said, you know how you talking
like man me and I'm doing. I'm a live and
I'm free.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
That's the fact.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
I got every opportunity in the world now that you know,
once you buy that wallet, you know what I mean,
color dollars, do what you do whatever, You're gonna make
the best of it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
We all know that. But it's limited.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, so we hear dogging and yard.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Dogg and yard is about, you know, giving individuals a voice,
individuals behind the wall, individuals coming from behind the wall.
So so often we see that when dudes touched down
and they come up short, then they get the media
attention and get all of the other stuffs. But what
we do here on a Dog in the Yard is
we like to promote and showcase some of the bros
that have been behind the wall had somewhat of a

(03:08):
mindset shift and now they out here getting to it
in a way that's honorable, you know what I'm saying,
you know, kind of kind of kind of you know,
laying down lessons for the younger bros that need, you know,
needed somebody to look up to new superheroes or what happens.
So talk to us about, you know, like your upbringing
or whatever you know, and what your household dynamics look like.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
You know, while he was growing up in jers Oh,
you know, single parent household. My mother actually had six
children before me. I'm the last, and my older sister
didn't know it. She passed away, you know, before ever
even enter the picture. So I grew up in the
household with six, six of us old together. I come
nine years after the closest one of me, which was
crazy Coffee. I'm the only one that was playing like

(03:49):
that's crazy. So how my plopsy was together, He was
married and all that, but he leave like a couple
of months after I was born, so I ain't really
know him, you know what I mean. So that that
played like a little little thing in my men through
like growing up. Every every every child or every male child,
you know, they need a father. You need a father.
So I'm looking at my older brothers as these my role.

(04:11):
He's the men that I understand and what I mimic.
You know, my oldest brother, he actually went to the military,
you know, and I wind up going to live with
him for a few years down in Texas. You know,
my mom she did, she did, she did. Man, my
mom's fantastic. I ain't got the upbringing of the old.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
We poor.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
We now had no full clothing, shelter. It was always dead.
See a lot of jokers like myself, we make decisions
based on what we see, and we made them decisions.
It's consequences behind them. But they, oh, you know older,
your mother, my mother didn't do this. We didn't know
we had anything. I wanted more, you know what I mean.
I watched my brothers do it, so I mimicked them,

(04:50):
and I was telling you earlier tone were sugging.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
What they did.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
They didn't go to jail for it. It was a
different day in time, you know what I mean. It
was it was the the system worked different, and I
got too many stories to tell, like yo, why the
hell they didn't go to jail? And my mind was say,
I'm you know, a kid watching.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It, like yo, I could really do that and nothing's
gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
So when I did anything remotely similar as a teenager,
I start going to jail at thirteen, twelve, thirteen years old,
I'm gone come back, go back to jail. Come back,
go back to jail. Long as I've ever been out
of jail road since the age of thirteen, it's thirty months,
which is crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
How old are you now?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Forty nine?

Speaker 7 (05:28):
Gotch I just finished doing ten years and in the
fast for I ain't got no problem going to jail.
I feel like I ain't got no problem going to
jail because I know it's a fifty to fifty every
day I leave at the crib, it's a fifty to fifty.
I'm going to commit a crime so I can go
to jail or I may make it back home. I
celebrate when I make it back. You know, the celebration
ain't necessarily we partying. Whatever the celebration is. I'm here,

(05:50):
I'm paying my bills. But if I don't make it back,
it is what it is. I already know what it is.
But now they got it to the point where where
you feel like, yo, this is going crazy because you
you going to jail.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But it's regular. And I think we all three, for
us sitting here, we understand that.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Yeah, at thirteen years old.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Though at thirteen years old, this is when you started
getting Yeah, with the effect of your father leaving and
all that that took up, That took that the deck
must have took a torn on on. As far as
the perspective, no man, no man in the house where
you're more free to more around.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
I mean, yeah, my moms was working all the time.
Be like it was a time that my moms had
multiple jobs. She worked for Jersey City Police for numerous years,
for for three decades. But I remember my moms going
to bey Own. That's that's the town next door, which
was like all white town back in the day. She
gonna clean white jukes houses. She work in the ball

(06:47):
she may go do some nursing somewhere else. So I'm
in the house with my siblings. So they doing what
they doing. They got they got, they got the free rein,
so I got a free rain. I get upside there
every time to time, but I don't see Mama until
you know, late nights. And that was for for a while.
Then we had moved. One time, man in my mom's

(07:10):
house burned to the ground. We lost everything.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Now you know.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Nothing, I mean nothing, We ain't got nothing. So we
separate for a little while. My moms pull it together.
We all come back together. And while we together, this
when when when when when certain things start going and
I'm getting into things like I always been big for
my age old I got I said, some pictures I knew.
You're like, holy, isn't that picture. Ain't no way in
the roley sixteen in that picture. So I get into something,

(07:41):
I'm gonna fight at jokeer like got fighting and a
and a heartbeat like in my city. That's the first
part of the Yo. He's gonna beat the hell out
of you. That's right, all right, I'm good at this.
So I learned this in the house. I said, my
brothers is big bolock niggas, and they you know what
I mean. So they made sure that my sister piece
and blessed to be a point of my youngest sister.

(08:02):
I put money in my sister against most niggas. He's
gonna beat the funck at you.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Son.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
You're jumping out the window for nothing. But that's enough stuff.
So I get into something. My brothers is in the streets.
So the people I get into, when it might be
somebody my age back a little older, they gonna get
the older brother or the father.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Come all right, you don't see my brothers because they're
in the streets.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
But when these niggas come home, it was gonna be
a hell of issue and wonderful me and he's not
doing any wrapping.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
He he coming to crush something off the muscle. What happened?
Who did what? Showing to me? Let's go?

Speaker 7 (08:38):
And that's that I learned that. And I was told, Yo,
you never letting nobody disrespect you. You never let nobody
disrespect this family. If you allow that, me and You're
gonna have an issue. And to this day I don't
want an issue with him, so understand.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
So I want to ask you a question. So like
I'm thinking about what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Right. So you know, in the industry of public health,
we talk about a concept called social determinants of health, right,
and then the social determinants of health. Something that's that's
extremely important is environment.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
And we know that human beings.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
They're historical anthropologists like Max Webel and Cliffic Gertz that
say that human beings are suspended in webs of significance, right.
And what they're actually speaking about is culture.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Culture.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
So you were conditioned through the culture of your family
and your community that if somebody violated of somebody stepped
out of line. Solving that problem violently was the way
to right. So what's interesting here is that in many
instances in the social determinants of health, we're having discussions.

(09:47):
We're having discussions as professionals, right that sometimes we think
we're making a decision, We think we have control. I
made that decision, I decided I was going to do that,
But we don't realize how culture is constantly working on you,
working on you, working on your manipulating you, influencing you. Right.
So when something happens, our first line of defense is

(10:10):
not let me think about this, because this ain't that serious,
especially as younger people's let's crash out, right. So when
you say that, you know, I like to frame it
for the audience, or the audience get a chance to
understand what's taking place. Sometimes you think you making a decision,
but the environment has already made the decision for you.
You just fall in line. And for me and for
most strong individuals, falling in line is weak. Playing your

(10:33):
position is strong. Every championship team need every member of
that team to play their position right. I'm the point guard,
I'm not the center, I'm the quarterback fast, I'm not
the running back. So when everybody play your position, we win,
you fall in line, you weak. Ain't no falling in
line here. So just talking to Bristol, that's what. That's
what you took me to. You kind of kind of
energize those thoughts or whatever. Beautiful, beautiful, but talk to

(10:56):
us about, you know, like functioning in that space and
how that led you to finding yourself with your first case.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Man, my first case has so many cases it is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Man, We'll give us the first one as an adult
prison ah.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Man, I had a few of them. Okay about it.
It's there.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
It's the balance said, there's certain things that that that's
just a trigger to the you gotta go, you gotta
you gotta read, reread, retrack a bit right.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I said. The fighting thing was the initial. I'm cool.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
I'm knowing like that reflected. It's so many it's just
too many stories. The beating up of the police and
they put me in prison. I don't discriminate, you know
what I'm saying, beating the hell out of out of
CEOs in jail on the regular.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
There's too many stories. Like Joe was, we said, we
get into them like yo, he actually did.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
That was s o p standing operating to seeze you.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're already got on line. We're gonna put you on line.
We're gonna fix you on I don't know how to discriminate, right,
Me and Pete know that you first hand. H that's again.
You know what I'm saying now. My mama told me
that one thought. My mama told me that's call to
the household.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
My mama say this, This is my mom's telling me.
Yet at six, I remember I was crying one day.
I got to my man pieces best to be a
point of me going now. Mama said, what the fuck
is you crying about? I said, I said, man, jest.
She said, boy, you ain't no pussy. I said, yeah, Mama,
she said, boy, don't you ever let nobody fuck you.
I said, huh. She said, understand this. Don't you let

(12:22):
nobody fuck you physically. Don't let nobody fuck you mentally.
It's not allowed. Get outside.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Kick that niggas. My mom's knocking on your door. They
tell you, bring him outside. I know what he gonna do.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Age around.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Let him, let him get this out the way, because
if he catches when I ain't around, it's gonna be
a bigger issue. Just sit right here, n Benison. That
was all right because most of them jokers. When we
grew up like that, we become friends. I know you
ain't backing down. You know I ain't backing down there.
It was a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's my man.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
So now when the cases really start, bro because it
is all right, I'm a big, strong, fighting nigga, and
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
You and nobody you know luck come with me. Now.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
I'm firming that, like, let's get I'm show you better
than I can tell you jokers realizing.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So I got thirteen stab woms, six bullet woons cause
we can't fight.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I ain't fighting you.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm fighting it.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
That once, so once once, once they converted it. I
went to the hospital for ten ten stab wounds. I
weighed two sixty. I came out winning one seventy. I
looked in the mirror in the hospitals like, this ain't
no motherfucking way. How the fuck you know what?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's it from here on in, it's on game.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Hold.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
He was seventeen, young man, seventeen.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
For the first time you got stabbed, Okay, one's.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
Supposed to make it. They said, ten stab wounds, lung collapse,
all type of shit.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
That's a lot of stab wounds.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Bro, I make it and there's no stretch to the story.
Like you know some nigga that I see people they
ad they wants to I'm talking real gun talk.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'm fighting twelve niggas and I'm winning. Niggas. Say this,
big nigga, crazy, go to the car, get the gun.
I got a knife right here. Stab hm.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
I'm still beating the fuck out of him. I only
felt one stab one. Shake it off, keep going, I
told my mom's right. I used to Uh. I used
to get jumped a lot because I'm from the end
of the city, what they call the end of the city.
Now up top right, I'm from the end of the city.
So so well, I'm well, I stay at You gotta
go through the whole city to like go anywhere. But

(14:34):
I'm doing shit the niggas all over the city because
I believe in these fuck you. Let me get it
and push come to shove. We could do it any
other way. So I stay here and jump because I'm
gonna go anywhere I feel like going. So I used
to keep a shining back then I'm like young giving
my teenager mom, I'm tired of seeing your face like this.
I promise my mama. I said, You'll never see my
face like this again. That's around fourteen or fifteen. Mama's

(14:57):
love man right right when she came into hospital to
see me. This, God's honest, true, it's got a staff
ten times.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Son.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
They talked about he ain't gonna make it this at
the third and they put that at the tubes and
all that shit in me and all that whatever. Right,
So when they finally take this, mother got my mother,
and I can talk to my mall right, I said,
you see my face, right, I said, when I's wrong
with my face.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We fight.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, Now serious commitment.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'm dad us, know what I'm saying. So the adult
charger stuft because I had to change my mindset.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
So you niggas don't want to fight, you know, play
I'm shot the fuck actually now, So now the balance
don't increase to a whole nother level. Now it's the
gun play. Now it's the car that strong arm niggas.
Most of my life coming up as a young joker,
So now we got the I was ready doing stick us,
but now it's as serious gun play. Now so now

(15:52):
we're in a jail for a sauce robberies. I'm going
to jail for shootings and all that. I'm sitting there.
That's yo. I don't know I was doing in New York,
but in Jersey back in the in the nineties. You're
gonna get the bell the US. It's about my first
bell ten thousand, ten percent, thousand dollars. You get a
thousand dollars up. They're gonna let you lose. They're gonna

(16:13):
give you a receipt. You take the receipt to your lawyer.
Now I'm going to court. Here go on thousand to
my case. Next bell, twenty thousand, two thousand dollars the
street down to the lawyer.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
That was That was That was the play.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I got you. So now you're sitting back.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
But look look at the rope though. Now you got
five open cases. Yeah, they wanted for five years for
this one. You could get ten years for this one.
You get four years for this year. Damn, here come
the plete did We're gonna give you a plee. Now
put all this together and you could take such such
amount of time. But if you go lose, you you

(16:53):
I know I could beat this. I know I could
beat this. I know could beat this. But if you
lose to this, you might get fifteen twenty. Now let
me get that fire years for any damn. I'll go
with my bensy sign off.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
But later on down the line, that shit gonna hurt
you bad.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
You already So you took five years?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
What you did my first day, bid I took. I
took a nigga.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Okay, So so where you will to?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
All right?

Speaker 7 (17:15):
I went to yard l Right, I smile what I
say this? Right, I left Hudson County jail. That's that's
my county jail. When I left the county jail, I
had a year in the box. God's the truth. I'm
the first joker in Hudson County to get a year
in the box. They give me a year in the box.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I beat it.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
I beat the fuck out so many people as ridiculous,
but the last one I literally beat the nigga to death.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
They they jumping back two times. They save them. Right,
they said, enough is enough. You've been doing too much.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
A year in the box, so do your box time
in the county jail transition to the state prison.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm glad you asked that question.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Right.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
When I get sent to prison, they classified me the
yard hell. Now, anybody that know me at this day,
tell anybody like yo, he has no business in yard hell.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm asshole, supreme be at this day in time, eighteen
nineteen years old, I have.

Speaker 7 (18:07):
Now here a nigga. He it was zero talents. I
spin on people on GP because you pissed me off.
If you say something I did, fuck you. Yeah, next thing,
it's a big heavy ass overhand and we could figure
the rest out later. I got I got no off switch.
But the kicker is like, like I said, I was
raised right my mom, So I got manners.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
And all that.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
So I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna deal with respectful,
respectable people. But this nigga's a chump. And this nigga here,
I'm crazy and this one fucky thing because he got
a uniform on you noth fuck out.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I got a problem with the thoughts.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
So that was your mentality, Yeah all day, hey day, sir.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
So when I get that out the yard vill that's
like basically like they call the youth corrections in Jersey.
They's like, ain't no way in the word he's supposed
to be here. Niggas that normally, like, Yo, how the
fuck he come here? When I go to classification, that's
what they say, this or anything? He got the the
flip talkboard. I know, y'all mad them joints, that the
flip joints, right, they say, well, this is you. It's

(19:06):
all my county charges, which is probably like a dozen
and a half joints. I'm looking at them like y'all
putting me back in the box. I don't even give
a fuck, like it make me no difference. They flipped it,
They flipped the board. They said, Yo, this is you,
this is you. Now you gotta clean slate. You got
one time? You the fuck up out of here. I say,

(19:27):
let me stay here, alright. They put me on the compound.
I'm a static, right, I know you know this this
uh I get down there is with ninety six. I'm
about to turn twenty. Sunday's selling the hair on. I
couldn't believe it. That's all on a corp. You know,

(19:47):
they got drugs in the jail.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
You know, got the water in the pumps, So get
water fo you.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
I appreciate you so right when I see what's going on.
I'm not a drug dealer, but they got ten dollars
backs of head wrong going for eighty dollars, but they
make a hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
They're making money.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Man, old, look, I sain't no way. What's motherfuck hell?
Let me do what I do.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
I get the muscle and a few things and he'll
come in your I'm an I got the police bringing
it in. Shit, man, niggas got an issue with this? Now?
Is this before blood and all that? Before the games
got people coming together. You will have like certain towns
in Jersey they don't get along, and it was always like,

(20:42):
I don't know y'all. Y'all got it like that though too.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
With the barrows.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Hour should be like I wur main, I wur maan
shit like North in Jersey City be right next to
each other. And I love shout out to all my
knock niggas.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Y'all know. I love the funk out of yeh. But
y'all know the history. They really know the history.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Shout out to you already, shout out to Jersey.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
City, my god, oh my gods, let them funk out
of y'all. Y'all know this ship.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
But youth house he is they're send Hudson County jokers
to Essex County and vice versa for punishment.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I'm over there. You're doing too much. Kick him out?
Fuck that mean to me?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
I think I'm not scared of a motherfucking thing in
this planet. So in the prisons joke is real with
the uh you know I'm from now. I tell Nigga
Fast all my life, like you know, not to jump.
But when I got goat to the fast. Oh you're
from Jersey, Yeah, from Jersey, Oh you know and such
such this the face you just see the face.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Son, I'm from Jersey City. No, he's from I'm from
Jersey City.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
So Joe coming to the fast dad, Oh you're from
Jersey now that i'm establishing you from Jersey. Oh you
know Big Bristol. Who Big Bristol from Jersey City, Big
brizel Man. It's a long listen name, big All, big red,
Cocky Craig. Oh, yeah, I know him, that's the that's Oh,
I know him. This's my government. But they I never

(22:03):
gave myself none of these names. That's what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
My names.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
I never gave him to myself. The streets and my niggas.
That's his name, and I run with it, all right,
So now I get down there. I mean, y'all feel
I'm cool. I'm like, man, the nigga man a no
where in a while. I'm missing on this fucking free money.
So I'm doing a lot of things to a lot
of people. Put the dope over here, put with my breast,

(22:30):
or this niggah he playing because he playing with you,
then' you gonna pluy me in on my shit. It
ma' gonna sound crazy. So because I don't really watch
TV or like the Internet and stuff like that, I'm
I'm stuck.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
I do what I do.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Man, I'm still you know, but I see chokees tell
stories and stoff like, man, hey, let you get away
with that, sunny.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
These niggas literally formed a gang for me in the jail.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Literally and at the time he was like twenty, you said.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Damn nineteen. By the turn twenty, niggas formed a game
for me. In particular, one town formed the gang for me.
How the fuck we keep letting this niggas smack niggas,
knock niggas out nobody, cause.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You niggas ain't really that tough. Like I'm you can't
whoop me, nigga, I supposed to let you not pay
me because you're from here.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
So how much time? So how much time you spent
this side? Y'allville, y'allvill.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
They kicked me out immediately, so you got out of it.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
What you went to after that?

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Now, this this was this is the thing. We got
it I got. I got into it with the land Kings.
I said, oh man, this this is bullshit. How the
fuck y'all in Yardville and y'all, I said, your son,
this this is bullshit. So I go go talk to
the edge joker and me and him got a rapport.
So you're like, yo, I know it's bullshit. I'm like, yeah,

(23:48):
this is bullshita. I said, man, let your man's in
the know. That shame is about nothing. We ain't gotta
go no further than anything. When it went said, it
was exchange words inside alright.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Cool.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
That night they come to the unit. They say, he'll
pack up, pat where the fuck I'm gone? So they
want you up center?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
All right? I go up center. Mother could tell me
you going to uh PC. You see my face the.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Polo club in the game.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Ever, I said, he said, we putting you in there here.
What is called IPC? They said you could go. I said,
may got me.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
Fuck, I'm not going no motherfucking with They woke me,
put me in this IPC shit something over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm down there.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
I said, y'all had to fuck out of there. There's
no way in the world you fucking up out now.
Remember you put me in this IPC shit, Toby. They said,
hit out on you. This that the third one? Ah, man,
I hell this goofy shit. Y'all spitting, But I'm telling you,
I want to talk to this man. I know this
fucking man, and y'all got me fucked up anyway. They

(24:55):
bust the door to let me use the phone. The
CEO that was working, he's working all that weekend. He's
cold bloody dickhead bro when I but when he bust
the dog go up top.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
He use the phone.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Right, I'm on the jack. I'm telling my sister in law.
He right here, literally, he literally right here. So I'm like, yo,
call call mama. Y'all call up here tomorrow. But the
ball give me the fuck up out of the playing
the game. Da da da da. He like this, Hurry
the fuck out, She like leave that man in a moment,
I said, now, I ask gravy. Soon as I get
up this phone, is asked Gravy. He got here, he

(25:26):
got one more time, say something to me and I
get up the phone. So it was like, yo, past this,
past that, So what the fuck you think this is
delivery service? Turn around?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Hook him? He fuck he cat assy bron Now y'all
did enough time? Y'all know this.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
You know on the weekend the numbers just cut down.
There everybody not there. I go lock in the sand.
I just pointed his things in his face. He get
up and running and go get the squad. Now when
the saw has come back, I forget his name. He
cool as fuck. He like, Yo, who locks you in?
I said, man, the man is doing his job. I
don't know what the man told you. The man full
of shit? Man, he said, he said, I know he's

(26:02):
a fucking dickhead this saw. He said, I know he's
a fucking dickhead. He said what I said, man, The
man like he said I did something to you, like hey,
by the unit. He ain't do nothing to be a
fucking liar, you know, we because the right to charge
you normally that's a that's an ass whooman. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
At the sawce spin off, I go to classification. Ship
crashed out. Why I'm in the box. What do you
mean by crashed out? My man and the game that
the niggas formed for me, they crashed out the Laton
King's the whole fucking unit. Now now I go to
the box. Now for the salt on the CEO teach this.

(26:42):
I p c ship on me anymore. He's supposed to
be in the.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Funck wrong with you? We all up top.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
They got the y'all heel, they had the uh, the
being was over the fucking kitchen being. You know how
hot this ship is?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
I said, this is not by mistake, this is this
is this is for five years, this five years joint.
This is my first bid, my first adult bit. I
did you now time too. This is my first adult beida.
So the whole unit, it's full of uffuckers. That was
Alt just beefing. Y'all know they should be going to
motherfucker be beefing. And then everybody go to the box

(27:16):
and now everybody, hey, yo know, book, I'm really not
that type of nigga. I'm man, fuck y'all to fuck
off the gate man, You pussy astis man. Don't call
me for ship. The fuck off my gate man. If
we need to let you bro get a few niggas,
you know.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Tell us I want to get you out of Yardville.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Out of five years? What happened?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
How did you change after the five years?

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Or maybe you didn't know I was worse?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I was worse. I was worse five years.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
We ain't go ahead and do nothing, tell you.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Something and yeah, I know I ain't gonna drag it out.
Know we got it this shit right. I go to classification.
Everybody going to classification? Anybody come back? Now, Yo, where
you going? Boyd time? Where you going?

Speaker 8 (27:59):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (28:00):
What's the other one? Ader them? These youth correctionals. I
go on the motherfucker like this, that's him? Fuck you
mean that's him? Where you want to go? We're gonna
give you a choice. You would go to Northern State
or East Jersey State. I said, Northern State prison?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
What the fuck?

Speaker 7 (28:14):
Having a boy and said, I just know I want
to board. That's the that's the gladiated do. They said,
now you're going to prison. You're not no more youth Correctionals.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Is Northern State Roadway?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't know what the.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Fuck East Jersey State is to always been called roadway, right,
that's right?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I said, what the fuck is East Jersey State? They said,
that's radway? I said, life, how the fun you sent
me to the lifest group.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Alright, send me to roadway. I'm not going to Northern
I heard know some ship, send me the roadway. I
wind up in the MAX with a five year been.
I think this about them.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
You left that couple more years because you're just come
on a couple.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
So you went home from there.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
N I get there.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
To wait, how many bids did you? How many prison
terms did you do with prison terms? Like the five?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
So you did do five?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I did that? I did not? I did that one
more than that happens like, yeah, I did that.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
I did from ninety ninety four to ninety nine. Is
that joint right there? And I went back two thousand
and one and two thousand and six, two thousand and seven,
two thousand nine, and then twenty thirteen, the two down
twenty three.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
So now because what you just what you actually did,
you just gave us your timeline.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
That's what we want.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
So now you got the timeline, we clear that ain't
wasn't nothing changing. Brizim Brizil was on a rampase yeahga.
So now when you get to the yeah, when you
get to the last bid that you just did. So
now you come into the system. You come back into
the system off of the ten. Right now you're getting
ready to do that. You start the ten. That's the

(30:02):
last sentence, right, so now you come in, you're doing
ten years. Tell us about that and what cast you to.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Go to the fest this fish all right, man, we're
gonna miss a lot of ship.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
But so I mean, you know, we want to get
to the point where you know what what cost you
to you know, I know we already know you spent
the majority of your life in prison, in jail is drivenile.
So now we want to just get to where you
went to the fast and your transformation. You know what
I'm saying. You said, you know what, after this ten
year bid, I'm not going back to jail because I'm

(30:36):
gonna do. I'm gonna get myself a job. I'm gonna
giving myself. You know, I'm gonna do whatever it needs
to be done. It's the right way.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know the fast.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
I'm like this, if a nigga, if you can't figure
it out after because the fair is a different animal,
if the fans is some bullshit, because.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
But before you get it to them, before you get
into that, what what lead to?

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Yes, I'm sitting in the county jail b for then there,
then there year. I'm locked up for a crime from
twenty ten. They locked me up in twenty twelve for it.
So home home invasion and kidnapping and shoot out with
the police. Right, all right, I'm really like ship, I'm

(31:20):
getting a lot of money. I'm hustling now, I'm still
doing what I do.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
You see what I'm saying that you like just beating people.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's what I really wrote this what happened Right, I'm
on the highways like crazy.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
I'm in Pitchbird, North Carolina, Maverling, uh, Virginia. My logic
say this like niggas like, Yo, how the fuck you
got all these spies? You ain't no say, nigga got
a big ass gun and anyway you put me in
be a tough nigga, so you can't just you know
what we used to say back in the day said,
you want to be the big fish the little pond.

(32:01):
Anyway you I'm gonna be all right if you drop
me in the hood. Everywhere I went, I'm hanging out
in hoods, you know what I'm saying. I'm in the
communities with niggas in the ground on mister, So I'm
trying to get some brad what you trying to do?
But I got and I got a whole different demeanor. Now,
like my man sitting over there, Niggas running around with
Louis leathers on and Gucci jaggets and datmans everywhere and shit.

(32:22):
So you don't see the wolf. You see Damn this
nigga sho getting money. You might think that he could
be a victim.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
But I'm sitting there like this, pull up in a
choir down and tie it down.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Yeah, we better we a beoutter burw the shit up.
So nigga gets some real paper. And then Nigga basically
like hood rich at the time. Now I'm talking about
retiring from the streets. I promise I go to my mom.
My Mom's eighty one, now you.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Know what I mean. So like my mother bless absolutely
my baby. So I go to her I say, Mama, look,
I said, I never been on this long. I never
made this techn How long you have been home at
that time.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
I'm at home like twenty about twenty something months, okay, year,
twenty nine month?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You never had that.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
The thing I figured out was as long as that
nigga here should be dropping in my lap. So I'm
always forcing issues so we ain't go through Like when
I got out in ninety nine, So i was robbing
niggas two days later, I'm on a mask on robbery
speek throughout the city lane. People give me anything, Give
me anything. What the fuck are you thinking about? You
just finished doing all this time? You come home and
automatic and right back at it. That It's been a

(33:30):
story in my life. I'ma go right back nig Whatever
I'm doing, I'm go right at the donner. So I
tell Mama, listen, I'm gonna bring you two hundred and
fifty or three hundred thousand cash. She worked for the police,
she got the credit union, she could put whatever the
fuck she wanted to put in that money secure. I say,
I'm gonna get a little store something, keep two vehicles,
move out here, my girl. At the time, she's like

(33:51):
this you serious? I said, it's over Mama. She like this,
dang you Jesus said it. So I'm telling my niggas, Yo,
we about to have a ball this summer. We about
to have a ball all on me. Son, I get
locked up for something to happen in twenty ten, I
ain't even thinking about. And I'm sitting in the jail, right.

(34:13):
I've been in jail before and didn't have bamn money.
I've been there before, right, it is what it is.
But I'm in jail and I got a lot of
money and still can't get out of jail. You know,
you've got a lot of money, you know in the hood.
That's different than a lot of money days. Right now,
they say, yo, I go to court. So what's the
bell a million cash?

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Only?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Oh, the the fast, I tell her.

Speaker 7 (34:36):
I tell a judge in the camera like that, said Yana,
if I had a million dollars, you think I'd be
sitting here in front of you with it.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Then they had the uh what is called the sauce hearing,
and they want fucking it was crazy. I'm in jail.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
It's off to the ice board, episcifficity because I got running.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Wait wait, wait, wait, man, pistivity, That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Prison stiffid this out.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
You're like, shold up, not this time.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
This time, you know you ain't doing nothing but getting
I'm doing you umbers out he is coming from and
all that.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I said, how the fuck y'all?

Speaker 7 (35:20):
So I wind up sitting in the county for then
there a year, eleven eleven months and some change. I
knew my son born at the time and all that.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So come home.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
Everything fucked up. My squad didn't fuck some money up.
This going that, going out, there's nothing I do like this,
don't mean trip. I'm going back to Pittsburgh shoot out there.
I mely call my man shoot out there, Yo, man,
fuck that money you owe me, niggas, Let's get this
connecting the dots again. One of my guys, he's like, yo,

(35:53):
I know these niggas fuck the money up. I'm up
right now what we need to do. I'm telling them
what I need to shoot out there. He sain't gonna
do two trips with me, right the first trip the
nigga do like this, yo, oh shit, he said, I
ain't know it was like this, So I told you, motherfucker. Now,

(36:16):
my squad one of my main man's and my right
hand man. This nigga up he out in uh this
this this is how this, how this come about? Pick
he out in South George. He getting a lot of money.
Nigga that bought the prey, He got the drop top
M six, you know, got the truck out, a couple
of more vehicles. He doing what he's doing. Now, all
three of us come up together. We rother together. Man,

(36:39):
this nigga he falls back from it. Two thousand was
two twenty ten. Yeah, two thousand and ten. I was
on a rampage in the city. But I'm really trying
to put the feed guard in niggas to be able
to do whatever the fuck I want to do it.
You're like, oh, you niggas forgot nigga ready to.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Give it up like this, And he was just throwing
your waight around a little bit.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Yeah, it's the stick ups home and va. He's just
a kidnappers, you nigga. Nigga know what the fuck this is. Niggah,
I did it. What the fuck are you gonna do
about it?

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, we can sell drugs here, we can sell drugs.

Speaker 7 (37:07):
He ain't nobody gonna do nothing now, my squad d
niggas on something like, oh this is what it is
my mind somewhere else, nigga, we doing this so everywhere
we put the narcotics. Niggas already know what it is.
They don't want no trouble. They know it's gonna be
penalties because it's this our shit all right now. My

(37:28):
other kod d this nigga he done against some money.
He calling me my other cold. He saying, what's that
niggas up there doing?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Nigga?

Speaker 7 (37:34):
I got a what a maca eleven in my waistline.
I got chotguns and all types of shit in the
third road of the truck. I'm outside every day, So
if I did something to you, nigga, I'm not hard
to find. I ain't got in the barber shop all day.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm right here. If I'm in Jersey City, nigga, this
is where I'm at. Come find me. Is he there?
Can I speak to?

Speaker 7 (37:52):
It's all here, Khaki, Yeah, big Bridges, nigga, whatever name
you want to use, You looking for me?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
What the fuck is the problem?

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Or I heard you?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
You heard what I did?

Speaker 7 (38:00):
What do you you you telling that story? I'm get
a story to tell. Empty pockets. Get the fuck on.
Tell the niggas I robbed you? Now, then how you're
telling I robbed you. I just want to make sure
this is the line. I just wanna make sure it
won't no beef beef if it was a beef, nigga,
we was in your house with your family tied up.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
We have left you there.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
I just can't take what you gotta get the fuck
out of my face. Nobody want no trouble. I said, yeah,
we almost back to nor We almost back to No.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
We got so you was so y'all was getting your thing.
My cold deed that's in South Jersey does get a
lot of money. He gat a lot of money. He calls,
so say, y'all in jerseyit doing what y'all doing?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yo?

Speaker 7 (38:37):
Y'all up there wild and niggas calling me. They notice
my man, Maybe get them to talk to let me
tell you something right then, some bullshit. I do it
all the time though. This is my scared face, This
is my worry face, this is my nervous face. Just
fucking ship me, man, all right. The niggas just talking.
They didn't want to get to fuck you. He ain't

(38:58):
went no robin, no more.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
He ain't niggas to get money.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
He get money.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
He's like, yo, y'all wild and cut that ship out?

Speaker 5 (39:09):
So who jammed you?

Speaker 4 (39:10):
How you got that? Time?

Speaker 7 (39:11):
There we go pick now when I get out the
county jail. He got a plug that he met while
he's doing the prison bed. One time, we right back
and forth. He's like, Yo, I found somebody, my nigga.
We gonna eat now whoever the nigga whatever, Puerto Rican
joker name Jose sending pictures together and all that. He's like, Yo,
Jose reached out to me, said older nigga a couple

(39:33):
of dollars, but he hit me on some ship like, Yo,
not been looking for you?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
So what's up? He said, Yo, ma'am. Remember you're talking
to you and your man's used to do for money?
Like what you mean?

Speaker 7 (39:47):
He's like, just do robberies and or he's like, yeah,
what was good? He said, y'all got a lick. So
for New York, what is it? It's gonna be like
twenty something birds. Nigga, bring this ship uprom Miami Da
Da d Now this joke is supplying a lot of people.
He ain't no half ass plug either. He got, he
got drugs from all through out of Jersey. This is

(40:10):
what he does me personally. Pete, if you tell me
about the jokes right now, the jokes now for the camera,
just bick and the gentlemen. If you tell me about
the jokes, I'm gonna go look at it. I'm gonna
go alright, let me go see what this ship is.
The battleom to look y'all can tell you. But this
is my right hand man, and this is my main man.
My main man is with me a day.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
He and Jersey.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Remember I'm in Pittsburgh, so they going to meetings. I'm
not thinking right because when I go out of town,
I fuck with one nigga. I don't want to meet.
If I'm doing business with you, I don't want to
meet Pete. I'n't give a fuck with you and Pe
I going on ship. I'm dealing with you. I want
to know where you live. I want to know where
your baby mama lived. I want to know where your
mama live at. It's something go wrong with me. It's

(40:56):
his nigga told go hot, let him so I'm gonna
let my niggas see you. This nigga told him right here.
I was out of such such with him. I meet
your man, you say anything to me about yo, Noah,
not not talk to him. You know what I'm saying.
So why the fuck we not catching that the plug
that's supplying my man? He talking about the hefe is

(41:20):
coming to meet the niggas that's gonna do.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
The robber.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
It.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Don't kick me in.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
It.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
Don't kick me in the hands, you understand it. Don't
kick me in the head. The level I'm on, which
ain't that big. If I go somewhere I'm dealing with
one nigga, I want why the fuck is the boss
because it's this is the plot.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
The plot is that they all and.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
The you know, the cartel together, they all in the
moment together, and the head motherfucker got a problem with
this dude, but he can't out him because anybody else
got to be in agreement. But if he lose this shipment,
then he had grounds Like, Yo, he's a fuck up,
get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
He comes from Miami with twenty something birds.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
Now when when cold he tell me this, I said, son,
I just made twenty thirve with motherfucker pitch bird. Give
me about three months. I gotta plug in Texas. I
go down there with the money to buy motherfucker ten
birds and he'll give me the other front, me the
other tents, and I'm done. Nigga fucking through with twenty
birds a motherfucking coke.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
So let's get to let's get to y'all going to jail.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Here we go. See it's fucking They tell me it's
hell wrong. That's what I said.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
If I got fifteen twenty birds and head wrong, I
changed the world. Oh no, I'm gonna take that. I'm
gonna take that.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
It's coke.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I wanting to do it. It fuck that out hell wrong.
I'm gonna take that. So when we come to New York,
I leave Pittsburgh, come back. I leave it. I need
a squad out there, and they think I come back.
I just want to gray.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
I don't even drive back up. We get to New York.
It's him and the balls and everything's screaming at me.
My first time meet me, and I said, everything is wrong,
everything is wrong, but all right, so be it's five
minutes to work.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Take this ship, shoot home. We up again. See niggas
work for the fast. Everything on camera.

Speaker 7 (43:13):
God damn.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
When we when we been down the goal.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
The goal under the under passage were hundred and twenty
fifth to go under the underpassage by the river with
the restaurants. That this nigga stops his car be behind
him and he taking us what we're supposed to where
Robbie spost take place at.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
He stops to call I'm forgings in the back boom.
They come out. More, don't move, don't more, don't move.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
The police car come up this side. Well, I know
it's the Fast off the mars say, yoh, this ain't
no regular ship.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
This they book us. They say, oh you have been
you have been arrested by the Fast.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
Nah you have now some believe this ship and this
is the crazy ship, right, I said, I just met y'all.
This hid I know more for him might be wise
like this didn't got to be standing by it, son,
I got a I be seeing ship like I had
dreams about ship. Like if I have a dream over
and over and over, dreams ain't nothing. But I'm quite
sure you know this dreams is past princes of the

(44:10):
future events and if you could tap into it, you could.
So if I keep having a dream, I know it's
something I'm sitting in the county jail. My Cody come
to see me. I'm like, yo, bro, we we bouying
the glasses ship, I said, so I keep hat a
fucking dream.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
We in jail.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
So we got the Baize uniform on some high ass stairs,
high ass stairs, and the walls all great. I better
than a prison in New Jersey, I said, you gotta
be southwards.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I ain't been there.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
You're like, bro, you about to come on. We about
to go back getting all this money fuck you're talking about?
I said, nah, I'm telling you it's there. When we
wake up at MDC Brooklyn, were in the middle of
the floy like, Yo, this s it ain't it? I
told you this, its fucking it, this fucking this.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
So they took it to MDC Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
MDC Brooklyn. Man was like, what the ship was?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Horrible man, vision it was, that's what he has seen.
I seen this stuff.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
So you want to cop it out?

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Oh yeah, man, you knew one one one one of
them went the wrong way, which I couldn't believe. I
said my main man in my right hand man, the
motherfucker go the wrong way. You know, you know some motherfuckers,
you know, it's a few days. You can't come back
from my eyes and I know some ship. They say, oh,
you can't say that now, David. I'm raised different I got.

(45:27):
I'm sticking to what I know. I'm not I'm not
performing and no.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Ship that uh ship. Yeah, I hang with hang with
the ship. I ain't with the ship.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
I agree with you know what?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Man?

Speaker 7 (45:37):
So with with with the statements? He made you lock
me in because remember they they don't see me until
the night of the rest. They don't know nothing about me.
When you read the paperwork, they say, oh, he say,
you got a team coming out of Philly. I'm in Pittsburgh.
The team, nigga, The team is more than one. I'm
one motherfucker nigga. If you keep your mouth shut and say, yo,

(45:58):
this is my man. He just can't from jail. I
tore him the drive over here. He don't know nothing
about nothing. Of course they ain't gonna believe that. But
I'm not gonna get to twelve years. You locked me in, Yeah, yeah,
I get it. So want something locked in.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
So now so so now you're in prison. So now
we got you in prison, all right, stay in prison, right?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
So in prison?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
A lot of stuff, a lot of stuff take place
in prison, whether it's personal transformation or not. Right, some
dudes are in prison. They started going to programs. They
start they don't participate in programs, but at some point
in time something clicked. I'm getting to do something different
on this one. Right, you get a flat, you get
a flat ten twelve years, you get the flat twelve

(46:42):
forty four months.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Right, So how much you do out of that? Did
it down that when you was inside?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Was there anything that happened with you where you was like, yo,
I'm going to do something different.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
When I touched dude over over times, would it would
be crazy with me? Right?

Speaker 7 (46:58):
Well, I'm doing time. I'm so logical. That is fucking ridiculous, right,
it's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
For real people, right, like your family, Like that's jail talk,
right or logical and jailbody don't follow through that.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
It be real.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I don't execute, But man, I like that.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
So as usual, even in the fast something, I'm in
the box on the mouths and now I was like
I was in five different federal penitentiaries. No, let this
cracker talks you like nigga, And like I was saying earlier,
you know the fast when they say, oh, the fairst
is more mental, the state more physical, the state. The
state is this man. Me and you got an issue.

(47:43):
We could rumble and it is what it is. You
may have a couple of niggas come with you. I
got a couple of niggas. Even with the gangs and
all that, nigga, don't let the niggas handle that. The
fastest goofy ass ship were.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
In the car.

Speaker 7 (47:56):
I had to tell niggas. I said, let me splain
to you. I said, nigga disrespect me as a man.
I'm gonna beat the fuck out of him as a man.
If the nigga fathers here, I'm gonna go talk to
his pops. It listen, your son disrespects me. I need
you to check your son. If the pops don't check him,
I'm gonahoop the pops ass. I'm gonna whoop his ass
and I'm gonna feel better. I'm not gonna go talk

(48:18):
to a nigga about and your man did.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
No. I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Everybody.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
I mean to everybody, nigga, I don't even no help.
So you feel tough because you got a bunch of
niggas back you say, you're gonna poke yourchest out of
the thing. You say what you want to say, do
what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Not with me.

Speaker 7 (48:34):
I don't give a fuck about the penalties and consequences
behind it. But uh, me and you, we're gonna get
this right right here. You're gonna get a proper understanding
that you made a mistake. Said, no, I'm not going
for that, son, I'm not going for that. And it
was an issue I started out in West Virginia and
Hazel two and that y'all from the BX, I know,
you know, bemo.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Yeah, that's our man.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
That's my man.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
This is my god.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
So men being like this, he like man, he like
you know what he do like this at the minute,
he like this man, fuck it, fuck it. He right,
and I'm with him and whatever he say, that's what
the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
That's just him now, you know. But you're right.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
The thing is this, this, this is my whole take
on the goofy shit. You a good man, Pete, you know,
I'm a good man. He's a good man. But this
nigga that's with you is a piece of shit. This
nigga that's with me is a fucking bumbling idiot. This
nigga that's with Bro was a fucking asshole. So the
asshole and the bumbling idiot get into it with your man.

(49:33):
Now they argue with you because you was like, oh man,
you know that's that's my homie, that's my god.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Da da da.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
They argue with you.

Speaker 7 (49:40):
Now the story coming back, Ye, mister Peach, justspect the
fuck out of us. This nigga he said this said
the third he said fuck the homie. Fucker he said
fuck you nigga. He didn't say well, he said fuck
you didn't when I'm telling niggas his son, alright, I
I had to call three different spots. You know what
I'm saying that five spots I am and then y'all
talk shit. Nigga, yeah, only even have another two. Nigga

(50:01):
ain't stay long enough. He got to go alright, cool,
I'm telling nigga and it shit stopped fast.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Nigga argue with you. I know you, man just spects
you what this nigga? I know him sing, I know you.
I know you too. But when I'm judging character, he
has a better character than you. You got issue with him?
Did fuck that? Nigga?

Speaker 7 (50:23):
I'm trying to see this nigga that you sure yeah
tell you with that Yeah, I mean this nigga, I
ain't got MATI hole of the mother.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Whooped this boy ass it fair one. Oh no, I
ain't that serious.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
Once once I'm in the I'm in the picture saying yeah, no, no, no,
all that goofy shit talk about where you are about
to crash out over you all get with a nigga
over ten stamps. Nigga, I got thousands of fucking stamps.
I run poker tables, I got fucking stars, I got
all types of shit. You fucking talk about ten stamps.
You gonna stab a nigga for ten stamps, now that's
the principal. What the fuck is the principal, you idiot

(50:58):
that you want your ten stamps.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Ten years in the y'all? Or did you did you
take any program.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I was, uh, sir, I only spot.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
I really took programs that was in uh Louisiana, and
I designed programs. It was crazy out there that when
you say when something clicked prior to going to Louisiana,
I was in California.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
M hm.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
So me and Nutcase, y'all know not you me and
nut together and nuting doing something that sounds you too,
absolute nut doing some good clear conscious thinking this ship.
And there ain't nothing story about me like yo, man,
The stories are that nigga ship. The story already about you, nigga.
The fuck you was a fucking but we together for months,

(51:42):
were in the cell, were.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
In the box. I'm writing. I'd be writing shit for myself.
I always do this shit in jail.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
Write some ship to keep my keep myself motivated, can
keep my mind on together, I might ask some ship
double loss rules and regulations to live by. And when
you put something in the format, I'm quite sure you
both noticed. When you put something in the format and
this repetition thing, it start clicking all day.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (52:07):
I Rule number four, keep a level head and call
the men to all time records actions out.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
But it's on my mind. It ain't just a thought,
it's in a format.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
You create a structure.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
Absolutely internal discipline. If you gonn got the internal discipline,
they're going to instill some external discipline on it.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
So you start designing these programs. I want to tap
into that because that's your money, a right, So with
you right right, that's the fact. So you're designing these programs.
You're doing that now, you're working on stuff like that now, right,
So that was your beacon moment. That was your transition.
That was when you realize, like boom, how much time
you had left when at the time.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Let me see, I know exact time, that would be
about two thousand before the course. It's like twenty nineteen
got you about nineteen. It's got you halfway into the ship.
And when I went to poll out down Louisiana, you know,
you have to what is the name in the program?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Is not the challenge?

Speaker 7 (53:03):
I forget the name that that they got throughout the
unfair joints. But they had a they had a joker
there named Bishop. He's really a bishop in the world.
Or dang Bishop, real good dude, real good dude.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Him and Ice. You know, Ice have the bronze too
all the time.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
I I know, yeah, I think he was down with
boy Georgia.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, that's my old fell Ice, right, Ice mean Ice there,
that's Ice. That's Ice. Me and Ice get to talk.
And this is what I say.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
He said, Yo, he said, man, herd, niggas talk about you, nigga.
He said, man, you can half fast talk like Bishop,
he's real proper either, he said, you mean He said no, no, no,
not like that. He said, man, you got like you
got a dual personality type thing on. I said, I
got about four five did the personality niggas for real?
But he said, nah, you know how to speak. And

(53:59):
he said that Bishop know how to speak, but he
don't pull niggas in with his speak because he's too proper.
He said, but you know how to speak. And motherfuckers
still grab it, say son. They was designing their own
programs and running their own programs, so I get with them.

(54:19):
Put it together real gunto at the best program on
the compound. What was the name of it, fucking bridging
the gaps? They just called it short term, the bridge
and the gap says with me, And I don't I
already know y'all gonna agree with me. We got too
far away from embracement of the elders and what we

(54:42):
knew to be right. That's what's going on nowadays in
my opinion, because some shit been instilled in and grain
that was passed down and respect. Shit it's just out
the windows. When you got children just saying what they
want to say out their mouth and they.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Said, oh, I'm grown. Fuck you mean you you're talking
around grown folks like that. I don't know how y'all
was raised.

Speaker 7 (55:02):
I'm saying, no person, I get slapped in the mouth
for certain shiit much mouth and automatic. Oh my mom
still busts me in the mouth right now at eighty
one years old. You can't you know, saying like if
I was.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
To meet your mother, your grandmother, you know what I mean.
I'm not big, Bristol, I'm not big. I'm Craig. How
you doing nice to meet?

Speaker 4 (55:23):
You met respect?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
You understand culture, It's not there anymore.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
So when I said bridging the gaps, it was about
connecting the generations and the jails. Like yo, y'all these
old times, y'all think I'm up for no nor no,
but I think anybody was like that at some point
in their life when we's younger. Oh you old, you're
on no nothing but certain shit downder the sun stay
the same. And then the bridge is also about bridging
the gaps within yourself, like, bro, the motherfucker that you

(55:51):
really got an answer to every day?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It's you that's right.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
And you know I tell motherfuckers that say, man, I said,
I done a lot of shit in my life. Be
but it's I just can't do it. I don't give
a fuck what you think about me. I gotta look
in the mirror, and when I look in the mirror,
I got to say, Yo, I'm good with you, no
matter what transport, I'm good with you.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
So check this out. So you make the transition out.
You ran in the bishop and some of the other
brodies that was there, you know, tapped into some of that.
Now you're starting to see a different vision. You touch
the town, you start doing certain things before we get
into that.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
What I would ask you is.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Understanding, you know, the different environments, the different the cost
roal environment like, the different settings or whatever, right, and
understanding that sometimes there's not a program there for a
god like.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Me like you, that we got to do it ourselves.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Sometimes we got to tap into the elders so that
we can get the transition, so we can make it
out and do what we do.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Do you think do you think? What do you think
about prison reform?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Man, it's this is what I really think.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
I think prison reform need to be designed by motherfuckers
at their prison job, the same way that it was
going down in UH in Louisiana, Man, they what wasn't
there the fucking program? It's not the challenge iss it
the Challenge program in the fat.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I'm not sure because I didn't. I didn't that wasn't
there when we were it was. It's one of them joints.
They got them all over the fair joints. But in Louisiana,
I guess it was sabotage. But they gave motherfuckers a
whole unit.

Speaker 7 (57:28):
Say I was in on it. You got a program,
You gotta program that program by that program. Take the
guys that's in your program, go to this unit they
called it. They're gonna make a satellite unit to see
how effective these programs are. Because when you got a
curriculum that's designed by people that didn't experience it, The
book and that psychological shit is one thing, man, But

(57:50):
the actual experience and and and the actual living through
it and add on to it and gaining more knowledge
from being around everybody, it's gonna go a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Further So, what you're talking about right now is something
in the industry of public health care cbprs community based
participatory research. So that means that the research and the interventions,
the programs that are developed come right out of the
ideas of individuals who come from the communities.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
So it's about giving people in the communities agency, right,
you know, the days are gone of people coming in
that's not from our communities and telling us what they
think we need today public health functions.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
And a way to where we go in.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
We do surveys, We talk to the people in the community,
We get the leaders from the community, and we sit
down and we allow their voice to you know, impact
the way that we design and develop the programs. So
is that so with that stuff, since you've been home,
what have you been doing in the interests of public health?
Right in a sense of engaging people in the community,

(58:56):
What have you done since you've been home that make
you part of the salt as opposed to that problem
that you once were In Jersey City, I go to.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
My hoods, man, I got multiple hoods in the city,
and I'm outside of youngs and I'm really.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Talking with them. God you because they heard all the
stories mentoring mentor and.

Speaker 7 (59:14):
All that mentor and man, you know it was it
was a joint that you know, you say that right now, right,
Mentor men teaching others responsibility.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Mm, wait, let's get that mentor men T dot O
dot R men teaching others responsibility, Big Bristol, Jersey City.
Talk to me, man, and what you're doing with what
are you currently doing with yourself outside of that?

Speaker 4 (59:43):
That's a great thing.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
So I definitely want to exemplify that and tell an
audience about that and tap into them in Jersey City.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
But what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Like, you know, I know, it's other other professions that
you may be you know, you know, kind of engaging.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
In the you know, to kind of make sure your
money is right.

Speaker 7 (59:55):
Now you're doing I'm doing? Oh I gotta I got
an in construction union struction Local Local three. Shout out
to Local three, Yo, I need.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
To go to work. They call me, talk to talk
to the people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Go to work, bitch, right.

Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
But yeah, I went for the real estate thing and
I got damn man. I told early Son, I literally
shut a tear two. I thought I was gonna have
a hard time getting hired, Like, who the fuck gonna
hire me? But once I passed the test, they said
only like thirty percent of the people passed the test
the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Got you? So I passed it flying colors, study some
ship and I'm knocked that ship. Damn I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
And I got so many interviews lined up to go
to broo all this is cool, and I decided to
go with one hal in and hand real tee. Shout
after my man, Jason, goa see you always in forever,
my guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Come on yo, listen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
And Dog in the Yard man, Yo, listen. We bring
you the real. We're not playing with you. We don't
got the games or ship. Whoever else got something that
what's going on and they podcast let them have it.
But we telling you you come to Dog in the Hart,
You're gonna get the You're gonna get the real. We
got big bristle here, Jersey City, b X tone pistol,
pe your briszle. Shout out your people again, tell them
where you come from. We appreciate you coming always.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
One time for the young brothers, man, the young brothers
out there in Jersey City and all that's running around
crazy and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Man, y'all know, I talked y'all on a regular basis.
I come through. I love y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
Man, y'all gotta tighten this thing up, man, stop going
against each other learn to come together. Stop letting out here.
Y'all say this all the time, Staying sucker free. Suckers
separate real niggas, the realest nigga you could be. It's
staying the fuck away from niggas that cause you to
act other than yourself. Facts stive, letting these niggas influence

(01:01:51):
y'all to do ship that you really don't want to do. Man,
you know, a real nigga, like I said earlier, a
real nigga. They kill me with this shick. I get
a joke, can real fast when we get out of there,
as check this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Cherk this out.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
It's too expensive to be a real nigga right now
when I say that, right, real nigga, you might have
to wear some fucking fingernail polish color. That is, you
might have to carry a fucking purse. You just might
have to wear a skirt or something anywhere, a bunch
of motherfucking clothes that make you look like a female nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
That's suspensive.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Real nigga mar pair of towns, some jeans, a hoodie,
some nice a big leather. It ain't cost that much.
This shit is pensive. It's out to be a real nigga.
So y'all keeping up with this bullshit. Get this shit
out your system, man, get back to recognize what a
real nigga is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
This shit y'all think is real. That's not real, man,
it's not real. Stop going against good motherfuckers for suckers.
You say you sucker free. Get them suckers out your circle. Man,
you know who the suckers is. Cut this shit. Man,
Tighten up, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Big Brezil represent Nuja Rules VX Tone Dog in y'all podcast,
My bro.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
Yo, you know what it is, your boy, Pristol P
Dog in the yall, and that's how we do it,
Big Tone, b X.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Up with Up with Up Boy, Welcome back Dog in
the yard. Shout out to the BX Borough. As you've seen,
Bristol went through trial after trial after trial, bid after
bid after bid, fighting solving problems in a violent way.
But then ultimately Bristle made that transition. Today Bristle different way, different,
Not that he can't get with you, but he getting
with you in a different type of way, providing public

(01:03:39):
health interventions, talking to the youth in the community, and
doing a variety of other different things.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Listen, if he could do it. You could do it.
If you could do it, we could do it. Let's
do it together and Bill Community Dog in the Yard podcast.

Speaker 8 (01:03:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
From the yard straight to your front yard.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
A minute stir in the band, she would pay because
of my chan stay out of my leg, playing my
card to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
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Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Yeah, ain't cooking you A loading the clipton just in
your frame, thaning goofies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Doing the most f

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
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