October 13, 2025 • 39 mins
Before the fame, before the plaques Dave East was a young hustler from Harlem trying to find his lane. Growing up between the projects and the courts, he got caught in the streets early, facing several run-ins with the law, including arrests for marijuana possession and disorderly conduct. But those moments didn’t stop him they shaped him.
Dave East used his pain, his hunger, and his Harlem roots to fuel his pen. His storytelling caught the attention of one of hip-hop’s greatest Nas who saw something real in him and signed him to Mass Appeal Records, in partnership with Def Jam.
From mixtapes like Kairi Chanel to albums like Survival and Paranoia, East turned his experiences into lyrics that resonated far beyond New York. His authenticity earned him collaborations with legends and rising stars alike, and even led him to acting most notably portraying Method Man in Wu-Tang: An American Saga.
This episode of Dog in the Yard dives into the real Dave East: the man behind the music, the struggles behind the fame, and how he’s continuing to evolve as an artist, father, and entrepreneur.
Dave East used his pain, his hunger, and his Harlem roots to fuel his pen. His storytelling caught the attention of one of hip-hop’s greatest Nas who saw something real in him and signed him to Mass Appeal Records, in partnership with Def Jam.
From mixtapes like Kairi Chanel to albums like Survival and Paranoia, East turned his experiences into lyrics that resonated far beyond New York. His authenticity earned him collaborations with legends and rising stars alike, and even led him to acting most notably portraying Method Man in Wu-Tang: An American Saga.
This episode of Dog in the Yard dives into the real Dave East: the man behind the music, the struggles behind the fame, and how he’s continuing to evolve as an artist, father, and entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Himself.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That'll be.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hope a South darks a over your mouth, reduleous clear,
that's right? What up? What up? You already know what
(01:31):
it is, your boy, pistol p walcome back to the
dog in the yard today. We got Dave's in the building,
my little brother from Harlem, Dave's. You know, it's a
different episode today because Davi's only did like six's months
in prison and never went back, right, But the importance
of this episode is to show the young brothers out
(01:51):
there that you could go back or do one because
we're not perfect. We could do one mistake and learn
from that mistake and never look back. And that with
exactly what he did. And with that being said, let's
get right to it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You already know your brother pistol dog in the yard
Dave's Yo, what up? What up? You already know what
it is, your boy pistol Pete walking back to the dog
in the yard today. We got Dave East in the building.
Harlem in the building was overdue now you know that
appreciate you always, man for real. So yeah, they are
(02:25):
just a little bit about yourself. For those that you know,
I know the world knows you and ship for those
that don't really know intense that your whole, your lifestyle,
your life, where you come from Harlem, you know you're up.
Could you tell me a little bit about your upbringing?
You know, uh, you know, I read up a little bit.
I know that you was raised, you know, with both
parents at home, you know, a lot different than a
lot of us. You know that they only had one parent.
So just tell me a little bit about that and
(02:47):
when you started escalating as far as getting yourself in trouble,
because I also read that you was in a lot
of trouble. You also did like six months and you know,
stuff like that exactly. So just a little bit about
how you managed to get in trouble and all that,
and how many siblings you have and all.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That upbringing my I had, like you said, my mother
and my father still got him, thank god. You know
what I'm saying. They've been they've been on this ride
with me this whole time, you know what I mean.
But they was my pops, my pops street nigga, you
know what I'm saying. My mom's work, you know what
I mean. My pops was a street nigga, but he
(03:22):
always instilled certain values in me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And my brother. I got a younger brother and I
got an older sister.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
He shit arrow, but he always instilled just certain ship,
you know what I'm saying, Like education was mad important
to that nigga, you know what I mean, Like that's
that was. That was his thing, Like you ain't gonna
live in my crib if you don't go to school,
you know what i mean.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So we had to do the school ship. That was.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That was first and foremost. Let's get this out the way.
In the midst of that, I'm I'm fall in love
with basketball, you know what i mean. Like that was
my first love before a female, and it was it
was it was ball, you know what I'm saying. It's
probably twelve thirteen years old. And from that that kind
of kept me out of trouble, I would say for
(04:06):
the for probably the next four or five years, like
the early teenage years, when niggas was really starting to
get into their first troubles. I'd be away at the tournament.
I'd be in the gym. Like a lot of times,
I feel like it saved me, you know what I'm saying.
Once I got to school, I ended up going to
Richmond in Virginia, I went out there for a year,
(04:27):
got into it with the coaches or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They kicked me out of that school. I got transferred.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, I got another scholarship to the school called Tousing
in Baltimore, Maryland. That's the clip, how like the basketball
clip that's been going all crazy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's been telling me your superstarve.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That's from that school can be more, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So when I first got there, all good, I'm torching shit,
you know what I'm saying. And I started falling out
with the coach, you know what I mean, shit like that.
So now I'm on suspension from the team. I can't play.
I mean be More, you know what I'm saying. If
anybody know about be More, it ain't it ain't it ain't.
It ain't Disney World. You know what I'm saying. It
(05:09):
ain't it ain't be More a little different.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I locked in with some some some official official
be More niggas that that to this day, I fuck with,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Like, even through all the rap fame and all the ship,
we still we're still tight. But I just was getting
into the wrong shit. You know what I'm saying and
getting into the wrong shit had me riding around.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
A certain way, protecting myself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I ended up trying to come back to New
York with a female at the time I had her call.
She was in the car with me. I get pulled over,
I mean, and they took me right in from there.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That was the last I seen her all of that.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's time you was in jail right there.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
From like sitting. I had been locked up before that
for like dumb shit. Yeah yeah, I mean like little whatever,
like playing around, reckless, talking to them crazy like that.
It booked me. I've been booked for ship like that,
but prior to that. But that was the first time.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
How old you I had to be.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Nineteen, yeah, nineteen, nineteen twenty saying like my twenty I
think my twenty first birthday I spent in jail. So
I was even.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Twenty twenty one something like some somewhere there for a
gun possession. Yeah, on the highway, on the highway coming
back to novel So I was just about to get
out of Maryland, like cro I've seen the Delaware sign.
I'm like, oh, if I get out of Maryland, were
floating put me over or on the state trooper niggas
with the stupid hat.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, it took you, dad, It took you in.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Took me in. Bcc BCCC. It's the ship downtown Baltimore.
The shit got It's like a building tours like all
of the ships is.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was like going being arrested there, I mean from
New York and ship. How was it?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just it was different in my mind. I'm like, in
my mind, I'm like, fuck, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I'm I smoked my basketball shit totally with this one,
you know what I'm saying, Like so more than more
than me trying to figure out what's going on in
the building that that when I first first that first intake,
I'm trying to figure out how.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
To fuck i'bout even tell my mom's this shit? You
get what I'm saying, Like, cause in they mind, I'm
I'm in class, I'm on the team.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm yeah, they don't think. They don't they think you
do some other shit.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I'm in the you know what i mean, I'm running around,
so I'm thinking that first after that, I seen a
few familiar faces.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You know what I'm saying niggas I had seen outside
and shit like.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That, so it wasn't I didn't really have a real
real problems and some shit like that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And then I got with a few Muslim brothers. That's
really I.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Actually took my shot hot on when I came home,
but I wa that was when I was really like
around it m and seeing them praying, like really say
the knowledge of it firsthand? Ye, not hearing it not,
I'm saying, your witness and the ship I got to
see it, So off of that, I didn't convert in there.
I came home and I took my shot in the
box with with Wayne know it was my manager at
(08:08):
the time, but that's where I got the first hand
knowledge of.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All of that. I got you or I learned that
in jail.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So in them in regards to should know you, what
happened to that? What's the outcome with the gun?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Pause?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You did six months?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So I got said this to a year, Okay, I
did six months in there and then and then let
me do the I had one address in Baltimore, my
man's mom's crib type ship way the fucking monitor ship
put me on the monitor.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Okay, oh, so you was in jail for six months
and then you went to They.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Had me like, yeah, like I couldn't go with Finn.
I couldn't leave the crib.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, I still got that ship going on. Yeah, okay,
so you was on.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
If I go somewhere and the ship to go off,
you know what I mean, Like I had to stay
with him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
My peo at the time got was super cool.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Maybe like in the last two months of that ship,
maybe the last month and a half. She was forgot
her name, but she was black and white like like
that Marioah carried ship.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
She was you know what I mean, mad cool. Though
she never was really on me, just you know, just
regularly staying out of trouble ship like that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But she would always give me her convos would be
about like what she was going through. I used to
kind of like to go, you know, I niggas hate
to go.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
See the po. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
She was like, she was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
She was cool. She was cool, and I actually talked
her into.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Let me come back to New York, you know what
I'm saying. I was like, yore out the addy here,
I have an address in New York. I actually have
a job situation. I might could get in New York.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And that six months that you did it, and you
did it in the county, that was in the city,
in the city, yeah okay. Oh so so we're.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
In the city downtown Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Okay, okay, Oh so you did it there six months?
And how was that? You was the jail was cool?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Man? I ain't. I ain't. You know, I'm not a
jail nigga.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I ain't like that ship at all, you know what
I'm saying, Like that wasn't no nowhere for me.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I think it was an experience that I needed
for me to even have.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
A mindset I got now as a as a grown
nigga with kids and the ship I wanted to do
with the music and exactly I took a real loss,
Like you know what I mean, Like anybody like even
with the basketball ship, he would be.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Like playing ball because you had it, you have some
great things going.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
For I didn't stop didn't just stop playing ball. I
got in trouble, just like you know with ball.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's like one of them things where you gotta kind
of have that that crystal clean background that like they
don't really want to risk because it dude's just as good.
They've never been in trouble that never, you know what
I mean, Like that never made it. So I knew
that fucked me up basketball. I could have probably kept
trying because actually the coach at at and he got
(11:01):
a job in Turkey and one of them shit's overseas.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It was like, yo, come over here, you know what
I mean? I said, what's the what I'm gonna be making?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
The money would have been cool. I'm like, I don't
know the language, I don't know the food. At that
time of my life, I don't want to go over there.
I don't want to be in no fucking yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah't want to lock in too early.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So I ended up going coming back to New York,
you know what I mean. And from there I think
that's where the real grind for the the music shit came.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
What year was this I got back?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That was twenty twelve, okay twelve, yeah, twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And you never looked at it. I mean, as I
see you never you never got yourself caught up in
no problems, no issues with the little sense. Unto this year.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Something that was that was twenty twenty two, y'all popped up.
Now these body cams bro like they got some other
ship going on like that. I think that's just some
new ship they on because I'm seeing a lot of
other rappers they released and body can't footage yeeah.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So it was on twenty two that happened.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, even even on that clip if you look at
the date, that ship three years ago. But he just
they just put it out. So then I got mad
people hitting me about a.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
D u I And because I woke up one day,
I was like she was. I was like, man, she
was three years old. Years okay, three years old? So
that was that was the only second time in your
life that you got arrested.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I've I've been arrested other times, but the gun ship
was the I want to sit down for anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What happened with it?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I ended up taking it. They offered the put that
ship in my car, or you gotta breathe in it
or whatever. I'm like, no, I ain't doing that, or
take a class. So I had to go take like
a like a three day class or whatever. End up
I had to take like a little test or whatever
for them to get past you you.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
A public figure, you know, so you gotta really watch
what you do.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I'm saying, you know, like you know what to be
not to cut you off. I I regret it, and
I don't. I regret that people seeing it in the
light they've seen it, but I'm human. I mean, at
the end of the day, I might be in the
studio four or five in the morning, might have had
been drinking some champagne or whatever, smoking whatever, and tored
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my driver and take the night or go on. I mean,
he might have to take his kids to school the
next morning. I'm still so shit happens. And I'm not
to say that's happening every night, but it does happen.
And on one of them nights, nigga might get going.
You might bump into the police. You get what I'm saying.
That happened, and that happened to me in that situation.
I'm glad I got out of that situation. The body
(13:43):
cam shit is like you know what, I mean, he
can't even suit them or nothing. That's like public footage.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
They own that, they own that ship, the city owns that. Well.
You know, I'm happy that you got out out of that.
You know what, I'm saying you was able to, you know,
get out of that and all that because I know,
you know, as this is now, Davey's getting stopped to
different the cops know me. That's what I'm saying. It
wasn't like a regular guy that was just leaving Baltimore
coming back to New York. The police stop.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
They said, oh, I loved doing this, So I like,
I like this all I like, I'm like, this is crazy,
y'all still still.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Still, I mean, they're still doing their job right, still
doing their job.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I guess, man, everybody got a job to do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I get it, man. I mean, you know people should
you know, look at what you know what as far
as like what you're doing, what you've been through and
in regards to you know, how how successful you've been,
you know, and how you managed to stay out of jail,
ship stay out of prison in your mindset, you went
to jail, did six months in jail, and ever since
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you was like this ain't for me. You're not the
only one that I ever said. That's how Some other
rappers and Joe was one of was like, man, fuck
that this. You know what I'm saying, Like, I gotta
do something better, and I know I can't.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That wasn't it because you you know what, I looked
at it like this after where I was like, it's
so easy to go in there, so easy, you know
what I mean, not real shit.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
The hard the hard ship is discipline or you know
what I mean, or saying nah, I ain't going with y'all.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The easy part is come on, that's the easiest part.
Is to go to jail. That's so easy to do,
bro so easy.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
So once I realized the amount of talent that's in
jail and the niggas, I mean, the jaila full of
psychos and crazy motherfuckers, there's a lot of great people
in there, you know what I'm saying, Like that that
that are smarter or more intelligent than the average motherfucker
outside with all the freedom in the world.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know what I mean. But that just wasn't no
place for me.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
There wasn't no way where I felt like I could
do anything, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just
felt like I was I was like under a rap
and that was for half a year. So I can
only imagine the niggas just doing five, ten, fifteen, twenty years.
Like you know what I mean, I salute I can
only salute it, you know what I mean, because that
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time is I can't get that time back, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you can't get that time back.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But who's to say what might have happened to me
in that six months?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Because I was moving fast, you know what I mean,
Like I was God, Like God sat me down, like
you know what I mean, I was speeding.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, that was that was just good enough for you
to wake up. Man. The whole bunch of years, I
came out with a different You could just get just
just a little taste. You know absolutely that I never
especially the other way in Baltimore. Oh my god, you
know so yeah, I mean I like, I love the
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fact that you you was able to just look at
that from at a young age and say, you know what,
fuck that I'm not getting myself because you know, nowadays
were living on a different time. Man. You know, you
got all these young young brothers out here that you know,
they're all violent. They don't have no no no rules.
It looks like it looks like it's almost like it's
no because people could fuse out there. They think that
(17:01):
because you're old head. You know, you know your old
g There's two different type of old dudes out there.
He's the old has and it's old g. You know
what I'm saying, Just me and you. You just up
and age. That's it. You know what I'm saying. You're
gonna give you that ship. It's gonna it's gonna enlighten
You's gonna give you that that mind change, the mindset,
your feeling is gonna direct you to a better place.
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You know what I'm saying. So I've been wanting you
to get a pick because you know, I love the
fact that you want. You know, you had your experience
with jail, and you never look back. You know what
I'm saying. Now you out here, you you you're doing
what you need to do. You know what I'm saying,
which is your music? You focus. I know that you're
a good dad. You know what I mean. We speak,
You know I know that you are. You know what
I'm saying, So, uh and I respect that that's gangster
(17:45):
to me. You know what I'm saying. Uh and and
and and you you can influence. You can speak to
the young brothers out there that you know that that
are lost and they could see that. You know, hey,
David's got caught up six months. He never looked back.
You know what I'm saying you because you you have
a voice, you know what I'm saying. And this dog
in the yard is about having a voice right and
(18:06):
be able to enlighten the young brothers out there and
sisters out there that they are wild with no rules
or no og to really pull them up and all that.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You feel me, you just gotta you know what I
feel like? With that, you gotta just think about what
you really want to be or what you're really trying
to do. You know what I'm saying, Like you really can't.
And it's hard.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I get it, like I was. I was victim to it.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
But it's it's the moments, you know what I'm saying,
A five to ten minute moment to get you sent
up twenty thirty years, bro, Like you know what I
mean saying that might have only happened in five to
ten minutes maybe less, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So I just feel like sometimes you put in them situations.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Where you gotta figure it out, you know what I mean,
And that that might be the route you gotta take.
But I don't think that's no where somebody should be
wanting to go. That's not no cool place to go, right, you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Like like I feel like like you were just saying
with the old heads and the old g's you got
some older dudes that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Or talk about it like it's like like you gotta
you gotta go there, you know what I mean, Like
that's how you used to be, That's how you become
a man, That's how you that dead from me, that
is not no place for nobody, bro, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You don't wish that shit.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah that ain't that ain't that's not it now. If
it happens, it happens.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
But you shouldn't be trying to do things to put
yourself in there, you know what I mean, Because all
criminals in jail are criminals that got caught.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You get what I'm saying, Like they all got caught.
Crime still goes on, you know what I'm saying, Like,
so you mean.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Take that for whatever it is, But criminals that's locked up,
anybody that's been locked up is because they got caught,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So you have to even be in a criminal you
gotta use your brain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You gotta think about this move that move, think about
who's a around you, think about who got your best intentions.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You know what I'm saying. That's hard to do in
the streets. That's hard to do in the world I'm
in now. It's hard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
That's just a hard in a different world, man, different world,
you know what I mean. So you came back, right,
I want to get back. So you got back been
back to New York after doing the six months.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And a year, so I was down there in total
like nine eight and a half. So my last month
on that I was able to give a new address.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Come back up time. Okay, when you came back, talk
to me how you got it back, how you got
into the music? And you know.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
The addy I came back to was my cousins and
my aunts apartment she had she passed two thousand and eight.
I rap about it a lot, but she lived in
Ravenswood in Queens That's like the project right next to
Queens Bridge, right right up the block from Queens Bridge.
So I moved in with my cousin there and I
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kind of had been trying to funk around with the rap,
like like just rhyming and ship writ and ship my
phone or whatever. But I hadn't really recorded nothing really really,
you know what I mean. Like that I could really
get with you know what I mean. So a little
my man agent. He lived on the third floor. His
little brother was like an ill computer.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Nigga, my boy soul blind, big shut out the soul.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
That nigga can break a computer down, put it back together,
all this type of ship like ship, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was like, you're having that kind.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Of but writing up. He's right in the hood. I'm
on the sixth floor. You're on the third floor. That
box is just blocking you.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Much better sturdy. But yeah, he on the third floor.
I'm on the sixth floor. He got the computer ship,
you know what I mean. So I'm like, Yo, what
we need to record? I want to start, I want
to I want to rap.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I want to do.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
We could record in the crib. He's like, Yo, we
gotta get a pro tool inbox, some shit and a mic,
you know what I mean. When figured out at this time,
I'm selling my I got weed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That's my That was my hustle. I got the bug,
put my put our little bread together. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
We got a mic and a pro two inbox. I
don't even have to spitgird. I'm putting a duke rag
on the mic, sock whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Anything, you know what I mean, So the shit don't
pop when you you know what I mean. And this
nigga was my engineer right in the hood. So now
I'm recording shit, you know what I'm saying across across.
I liveing on thirty sixth Avenue, on thirty fifth Avenue.
My man gutter, he had like a little recording ship
in his closet. So we be and my ship we
go over there. But I'm now I'm doing this is
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my ship. I want to do every day, you know
what I mean. Like I'm getting like a love for
what I'm excited, dude, you're looking forward to doing it,
to finding new beats. And at this time I'm looking
up beats on YouTube. I ain't got no producers sending
me shit like you know what I'm saying. I'm trying
to find beats, taking beats that's already out wrapping over
them ships.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
My man guttas start making the t shirts. He had to.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I used to say lighted like lighted some you know,
like light up. That was like my little slogan and ship.
He made mad T shirts with the lighted on it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, he all through the projects, niggas is wearing and
so I'm seeing like, oh, niggas is fucking with me,
Like all right, I get up with Jungle in Queens Bridge.
I'm going over there because I'm I be in the
bridge every other day, like you know what I'm saying,
probably every day, Like I'll be over there, get my
head cut over there, liquor store over there that's making food,
like everything.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Was I go to the bridge.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
So I'm with Junk, I'm with all of the I'm
with Jungle, I'm with but I'm around the nas people,
you know what i mean. Like I'm familiar with who
they are of course from the music and s like that.
But I'm seeing these niggas in the hood Bravehall, Like
where's all these I'm seeing these niggas.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
In the hood. We cool?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
What up?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What up? Familiar ship? Jungle? He's putting me. He's like, Yo,
niggas is I'm hearing you. I'm hearing about whatever whatever. Whatever.
I'm like, that shit got to you, like the ship
must be doing what he's doing. But he ain't really
make nothing up. It's, you know, just regular in the hoods.
She like not keep doing, keep doing, stay on that ship,
stay on that ship. Fast forward. It's like Summer gem
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or some ship. I think.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I think it was the last summer gam Nas did.
World were all in the bridge. God bless the dad.
My boy d block. We was d blocking with me
that to that summer jam. But Jungle we all together.
We go to summer Gym. But that that whole day,
Jungle's telling me, yo.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
My brother fucking with your ship, my brother. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
My brother, Nigga, like I only know Nas that your brother.
I don't you know what I mean? You got another
brother I don't know about. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But and that's that what he wasn't lying like you
know what I mean. So from there I stayed on it.
Naza's manager contacted me. I was at this time. I
was with Wayne O, who I brought up early. I
took my sho hot with and I got I got
to deal with Nas what And that was what twenty fifteen.
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I think twenty fifteen I signed with Massive Pill.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay, from then it was it was shut out to
a big, big shot out to Escow.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You know what I'm saying. I know Nas for a
long time too. I haven't seen him in a minute,
but we know each other's like, you know, yeah, yeah,
back in the days. But how you caught it up.
I'm happy that you that you you still with the craft,
you know, because that'll showed you know, the young brothers
out there. You know, you got to just stick to it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Lock in, bro. It's like I was saying, easy is earlier.
It's so easy to go to jail. It's even easier
to quit some facts, you know what I'm saying, Like
to feel like you ain't got to support, or to
feel like I ain't got enough money to do that,
or I don't got the you know what I mean,
I don't have the things it takes to do that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Man, if you really love that ship and it's something
you can really see yourself doing and you enjoy doing it,
do it, bro, because because if you don't, you're gonna
be somebody that's looking back mad at yourself, telling yourself, damn,
if I do only I never want to be one
of the niggas. You know what I'm saying like that
look back and be regretting time that I just fucked over.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I want to ask you, uh you think about you
think prison reform is needed? Reform if you don't understand
the question, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I think, uh.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, I think it's needed. I think it helps. I
don't think. I don't think it's a bad thing, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think it definitely helps. I feel like I've seen
from what I've seen of it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'm not really I can't really speak on that heaving
because I'm not involved with it, but from the outside
looking at it seemed that even if it helped the
few brothers, you know, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's helped, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I get it. Appreciate you, man, But to ask you,
as far as I know, you gang affiliated. Gang affiliators
never been to jail. They have to go to jail,
don't have to don't got to bang out to be successful.
I mean, I mean, you know, to me, I mean
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you gang banging the right way because you're not You're
not out there. I never seen you out there. You know,
never heard of anything. No, you know what I'm saying.
What you do with I just respect because I know
that you're a good You're a good brother. You know
what I'm saying. I know that you handled your bunity,
You're responsible, You got your kids, you they come first,
I know. You know what I mean. So how you
balance all that between you know, you being you know,
I know you see a lot of different gang members,
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you know, across the world when you travel. How you
how you deal with all that?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
How you were men first? Bro? You know that before
any gang. You're a man.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I'm a man, you know what I mean. But with that,
I think it's levels to that's it's different. There's just
different levels to that.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know what I mean. You got niggas that's banging
all day long. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You got niggas that's trying to do other shit, that's
trying to get money, that's trying to travel the world,
that's trying to you know what I mean, look at
beautiful paintings and just just do other fly ship you
know what I mean, trees and just want to do
fly ship for theyself and their families and shit like that.
It's just two different types of niggas under the under
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the gang umbrella.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know what I'm saying. You got some niggas that
you know that's that's that's what they live for. You
know what I mean to Bang?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You know what I mean, Like I I mean, it's
levels to it, and I think at different ages it
should shift, you know what I mean, Like I don't
knock nobody that bang, Like I get it, you know
what I'm saying, Like, but it's just shift after a
certain age.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
You shouldn't be on what you was on at. You
shouldn't be thirty and you're on the same time he
was on at fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You know what I mean with that? That mean you
ain't it's no growth there. You know what I mean.
You ain't. You ain't learned nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You should always take uh negatives and positives and move
forward with the ship like you know what I mean,
like be doing something different.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So that's with me, with my with my my gang.
Tize is authentic? Is is? Is it could be?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
You know what I'm saying, Like that's my family. I'm
tied to that till I leave Earth, you know what
I mean. But I got kids, I got my mom's,
my pot, got family that I gotta.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's my game.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You gotta be there for them first. That's the that's
the game that I gotta all the way secure, all
the way secure, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And if the if the if the set or if
the homies don't understand or respect that, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But for the ones that do, we gotta, we gotta,
we gotta, we gotta up it.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We gotta take it as far as we can take
it because time is limited, you know what I mean.
We gotta take it far, man. That's what I'm not
here to do. Just just keep pushing it, you know
what I'm saying. So the next nigga that that that's
coming from a gang or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know what I mean. Like you.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Get what I'm saying, Ship, the next the next person
or that it's ship you could do with that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You know what I'm saying. That doesn't always end up
with jail or death. You know what I'm saying, Like
that ain't the guarantee the things you could you can
still do with this ship no matter what your background is.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Always be respectful, don't don't, don't tell on nobody, you
know what I mean? Certain ship, be a man, be
an honorable man.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But the gang.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Coming from a gang does not stop you from being
all you want to be in life. That's that's the
best advice I could give.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Don't, don't, don't put yourself in a box because all
because all you see is your hood, you know what
I'm saying, All you see is the homies. It's so
much more out here, bro, Like, there's so much more ship.
I still ain't seen the word beauty, you know what
I mean. There's so much I still ain't seen, so
that that would be my best advice, bro. Like, it
don't matter what set, what what color you banging, what
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side you from, Like, it's shit you still could do
out here, That's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
It's a lot of shit you could still do out
here in a good, positive way and still be respected
and loved by those that you thought probably would have
never even looked at you.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, motherfuckers bug out on me all day. They'd
be like, yo, Pete got the dog in the yard.
Positive shit, you know. Going back to the president, I
mean three sixty pistol. Damn this nigga hit first, predigate rackets,
wilding out this. You know, I know a lot of
these young brothers. You're always young guys doing this shit forever.
And I was out wilding out in the industry, doing
stupid shit outside of the industry, inside the industry, in jail,
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you know, and now to come come around people be like,
damn pistol.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Imagine how that make them feel about themselves when they
can see somebody with your background, knowing the type of
nigga you you was, It's that's still in you.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You just understand, you know what I'm saying. So imagine
how they view that and how they view yourself now,
Like oh noh, Like I was just saying earlier, there's
always room for growth, bro fact, you know what I mean,
unless you got four five life bids, Like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, if it ain't that, if it's some type of
light at the end of that tunnel, take advantage.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Of it, absolutely, keep going positive energy, taking advantage of it,
fall away and everything. Absolutely, that's the fact.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So he's what you got going on these days now.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Calmer four man, were about to drop.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Right here, yeah, right here, Umber four first my first
official independent album solo.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Okay, yeah, man, I put some put some pain.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I put some pain and.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Make sure you go out there and support you. You know, Dave,
I put some pain in that. We put some pain
into it. Oh, you know it's strange to I'm talking.
I want to bring this up to you.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I got a situation now where I'm getting all my
music into jails. Uh, I gotta I can't think of
the exactly ship. I'm gonna find out j J something
else where. It's like the whole you're getting my whole catalog.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
They could get my whole ship. Wow. Album, Like what
I got music that's just gonna be for the jail.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Wow, that's super.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's not gonna be shipped that. I'm like, you're not
gonna be able to get it on Apple just for that.
It's just for the jail.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
That's focus.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
That's dopey John, my boy John put that together. But
right now they're gonna love They're gonna love it.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
They're gonna love it. You got definitely fans in the
jail system. Prison system that's gonna appreciate you hearing you out.
I know what you're gonna lay down. It's gonna be
inspiring for them, you know, except to keep going, you
know what I mean. So it's gonna be. It's gonna be.
That's a good look. Congratulations. You know what I'm saying.
I love what you do, Davies. Keep doing your thing.
Appreciate you having you know, me having you here on
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dog of the y'all.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
This overdude, mante man, Yeah, okay, I like the fact
that I see you like I see you. You know
what I'm saying. I bump and see you always you
always are good.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I always gonna be good. Man.
It's always gonna be good. You know why, because you
don't owe me nothing, you don't own nobody nothing. Man,
It's always gonna be genuine women, it's gonna be. I like,
I love the positive. I want you to feel comfortable
and be good when you see because I feel good
when I like to see you when I see you,
don't what's around You know what I'm saying, What we
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got going to what we got That's how this ship go.
You feel me and I respect you. You know what
I'm saying as not only as a man, because that's
off off the back. But I know that I'm a
good dad. You know, I'm into those people that you know,
those individuals that are dad. Me and you had a
chat before about you being in somebody life that wasn't
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even your child, right, and you raising him like he's
your child. That's big to me because I have I
have a kid.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I have a child.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
His name is David, and he's not he's I'm not
his dad, bolog you, but I raised them pops. And
he's just turned sixteen. We just got him a car, right,
I just flew out to Florida. Yeah, you know, so
you better get ready. You got to get through little.
I got him a little I got him a little
car floor because my kids, some of my kids. I
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got nine kids, but Davids in Florida with my other
two kids. So I flew out there. We got him
a car, you know. And what I'm saying to you
is that like his name, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah David. So my thing is that appreciate you man
put up his He just turned sixteen, and and I
love him the same way I love all my kids.
And when I when I count, when I say I
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got nine kids, he is one of the nine. You
feel me, So that right there, regardless of how motherfuckers
look at you, when the motherfuckers know what you deep
inside with with you, the things that you do for
your kids and how you there for them and all that, right,
that's the whole different level of respect to me. You
know what I'm saying. For me, it's a whole different level.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know how I look at that. It's like like
with Jay when I when I got came into his life,
it was three years old. You know what I'm saying, baby, Yeah, baby,
so you know what I mean, I would have felt
like a sucker to not you know what I mean,
and not hold that damn or that teach him everything
I know as a man and how you know, I mean,
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just how to fight everything, just everything that I know
as a man that you need to have out here
as a man that you can't get from a woman. No,
not to nobody, moms or There's just certain things that
you gotta get from from a man, some kind of
from a man or from the streets.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Something.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You gotta get that from him, you know what I mean.
I feel like I would have been a sucker to
not do that, you know, what I mean. And I
love him to death. I love him like he came
from from.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
So that in fact, with that and you listen, man,
motherfuckers respect that ship. You know what I'm saying. You
know mean, just because you God, if you're there for
a child, you fucking with somebody's whatever, ex wisdom and
all that. Girl and you, they come along with the
baby that they are part. She came with the baby.
She's the baby is a part of them. So you gotta,
you gotta, you gotta be able to embrace that baby,
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especially if the baby ain't got no dad, or they
not doing nothing, or they dad, whatever the situation may be.
You know what I'm saying, it's your job to embrace
that baby. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, anyway, man,
I just want to salute you for that, bro. You
know what I'm saying. I respect you a lot for that.
You know what I'm saying. I love that. And with
that being said, man, you already knows your boy pistol
p Dave's Harlem. You already know look out for the
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joint about the part I told her fifteen. Make sure
you look out for Davis. We here be tapping with us.
You know, is your boy pistol pe dog in the yard?
Hold on, what up? What up? You already knows your
boy pistol p walking back the dog in the yard.
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First and foremost, I want to thank Dave's for coming through.
Appreciate you a little bro. Keep doing your thing, uh,
keep representing for the youth arm. You know, listen, Man
Davis is very important for my platform because he's a
young brother out there that went to jail, did six
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months in jail, never came back, and now he's out
here living his dreams. I mean he's also a nice
basketball player, so you already know. So he's super nice
with the ball. So pause, and with that being said,
man I told with fifteen, make sure y'all go get
that column four. Go support my little brother Davi's. You
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already know we're here for you. Man dogging the y'all
your boy pistol at the man she was because my chain,
Stay out of my leg playing my charge and be
(38:54):
your friend. Yeah, I ain't going you load and Clinton
in your friend. A sand coffee is down, amost a
fat peo
Himself.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That'll be.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hope a South darks a over your mouth, reduleous clear,
that's right? What up? What up? You already know what
(01:31):
it is, your boy, pistol p walcome back to the
dog in the yard today. We got Dave's in the building,
my little brother from Harlem, Dave's. You know, it's a
different episode today because Davi's only did like six's months
in prison and never went back, right, But the importance
of this episode is to show the young brothers out
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there that you could go back or do one because
we're not perfect. We could do one mistake and learn
from that mistake and never look back. And that with
exactly what he did. And with that being said, let's
get right to it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You already know your brother pistol dog in the yard
Dave's Yo, what up? What up? You already know what
it is, your boy pistol Pete walking back to the dog
in the yard today. We got Dave East in the building.
Harlem in the building was overdue now you know that
appreciate you always, man for real. So yeah, they are
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just a little bit about yourself. For those that you know,
I know the world knows you and ship for those
that don't really know intense that your whole, your lifestyle,
your life, where you come from Harlem, you know you're up.
Could you tell me a little bit about your upbringing?
You know, uh, you know, I read up a little bit.
I know that you was raised, you know, with both
parents at home, you know, a lot different than a
lot of us. You know that they only had one parent.
So just tell me a little bit about that and
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when you started escalating as far as getting yourself in trouble,
because I also read that you was in a lot
of trouble. You also did like six months and you know,
stuff like that exactly. So just a little bit about
how you managed to get in trouble and all that,
and how many siblings you have and all.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That upbringing my I had, like you said, my mother
and my father still got him, thank god. You know
what I'm saying. They've been they've been on this ride
with me this whole time, you know what I mean.
But they was my pops, my pops street nigga, you
know what I'm saying. My mom's work, you know what
I mean. My pops was a street nigga, but he
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always instilled certain values in me.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And my brother. I got a younger brother and I
got an older sister.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
He shit arrow, but he always instilled just certain ship,
you know what I'm saying, Like education was mad important
to that nigga, you know what I mean, Like that's
that was. That was his thing, Like you ain't gonna
live in my crib if you don't go to school,
you know what i mean.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So we had to do the school ship. That was.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That was first and foremost. Let's get this out the way.
In the midst of that, I'm I'm fall in love
with basketball, you know what i mean. Like that was
my first love before a female, and it was it
was it was ball, you know what I'm saying. It's
probably twelve thirteen years old. And from that that kind
of kept me out of trouble, I would say for
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the for probably the next four or five years, like
the early teenage years, when niggas was really starting to
get into their first troubles. I'd be away at the tournament.
I'd be in the gym. Like a lot of times,
I feel like it saved me, you know what I'm saying.
Once I got to school, I ended up going to
Richmond in Virginia, I went out there for a year,
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got into it with the coaches or whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They kicked me out of that school. I got transferred.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Well, I got another scholarship to the school called Tousing
in Baltimore, Maryland. That's the clip, how like the basketball
clip that's been going all crazy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's been telling me your superstarve.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That's from that school can be more, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So when I first got there, all good, I'm torching shit,
you know what I'm saying. And I started falling out
with the coach, you know what I mean, shit like that.
So now I'm on suspension from the team. I can't play.
I mean be More, you know what I'm saying. If
anybody know about be More, it ain't it ain't it ain't.
It ain't Disney World. You know what I'm saying. It
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ain't it ain't be More a little different.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I locked in with some some some official official
be More niggas that that to this day, I fuck with,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Like, even through all the rap fame and all the ship,
we still we're still tight. But I just was getting
into the wrong shit. You know what I'm saying and
getting into the wrong shit had me riding around.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
A certain way, protecting myself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And I ended up trying to come back to New
York with a female at the time I had her call.
She was in the car with me. I get pulled over,
I mean, and they took me right in from there.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That was the last I seen her all of that.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's time you was in jail right there.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
From like sitting. I had been locked up before that
for like dumb shit. Yeah yeah, I mean like little whatever,
like playing around, reckless, talking to them crazy like that.
It booked me. I've been booked for ship like that,
but prior to that. But that was the first time.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
How old you I had to be.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Nineteen, yeah, nineteen, nineteen twenty saying like my twenty I
think my twenty first birthday I spent in jail. So
I was even.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Twenty twenty one something like some somewhere there for a
gun possession. Yeah, on the highway, on the highway coming
back to novel So I was just about to get
out of Maryland, like cro I've seen the Delaware sign.
I'm like, oh, if I get out of Maryland, were
floating put me over or on the state trooper niggas
with the stupid hat.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, it took you, dad, It took you in.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Took me in. Bcc BCCC. It's the ship downtown Baltimore.
The shit got It's like a building tours like all
of the ships is.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was like going being arrested there, I mean from
New York and ship. How was it?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just it was different in my mind. I'm like, in
my mind, I'm like, fuck, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I'm I smoked my basketball shit totally with this one,
you know what I'm saying, Like so more than more
than me trying to figure out what's going on in
the building that that when I first first that first intake,
I'm trying to figure out how.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
To fuck i'bout even tell my mom's this shit? You
get what I'm saying, Like, cause in they mind, I'm
I'm in class, I'm on the team.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I'm yeah, they don't think. They don't they think you
do some other shit.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I'm in the you know what i mean, I'm running around,
so I'm thinking that first after that, I seen a
few familiar faces.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You know what I'm saying niggas I had seen outside
and shit like.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That, so it wasn't I didn't really have a real
real problems and some shit like that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And then I got with a few Muslim brothers. That's
really I.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Actually took my shot hot on when I came home,
but I wa that was when I was really like
around it m and seeing them praying, like really say
the knowledge of it firsthand? Ye, not hearing it not,
I'm saying, your witness and the ship I got to
see it, So off of that, I didn't convert in there.
I came home and I took my shot in the
box with with Wayne know it was my manager at
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the time, but that's where I got the first hand
knowledge of.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All of that. I got you or I learned that
in jail.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So in them in regards to should know you, what
happened to that? What's the outcome with the gun?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Pause?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You did six months?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So I got said this to a year, Okay, I
did six months in there and then and then let
me do the I had one address in Baltimore, my
man's mom's crib type ship way the fucking monitor ship
put me on the monitor.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Okay, oh, so you was in jail for six months
and then you went to They.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Had me like, yeah, like I couldn't go with Finn.
I couldn't leave the crib.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, I still got that ship going on. Yeah, okay,
so you was on.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
If I go somewhere and the ship to go off,
you know what I mean, Like I had to stay
with him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
My peo at the time got was super cool.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Maybe like in the last two months of that ship,
maybe the last month and a half. She was forgot
her name, but she was black and white like like
that Marioah carried ship.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
She was you know what I mean, mad cool. Though
she never was really on me, just you know, just
regularly staying out of trouble ship like that.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But she would always give me her convos would be
about like what she was going through. I used to
kind of like to go, you know, I niggas hate
to go.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
See the po. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
She was like, she was cool.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
She was cool. She was cool, and I actually talked
her into.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Let me come back to New York, you know what
I'm saying. I was like, yore out the addy here,
I have an address in New York. I actually have
a job situation. I might could get in New York.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And that six months that you did it, and you
did it in the county, that was in the city,
in the city, yeah okay. Oh so so we're.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
In the city downtown Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Okay, okay, Oh so you did it there six months?
And how was that? You was the jail was cool?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Man? I ain't. I ain't. You know, I'm not a
jail nigga.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I ain't like that ship at all, you know what
I'm saying, Like that wasn't no nowhere for me.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I think it was an experience that I needed
for me to even have.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
A mindset I got now as a as a grown
nigga with kids and the ship I wanted to do
with the music and exactly I took a real loss,
Like you know what I mean, Like anybody like even
with the basketball ship, he would be.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Like playing ball because you had it, you have some
great things going.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
For I didn't stop didn't just stop playing ball. I
got in trouble, just like you know with ball.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's like one of them things where you gotta kind
of have that that crystal clean background that like they
don't really want to risk because it dude's just as good.
They've never been in trouble that never, you know what
I mean, Like that never made it. So I knew
that fucked me up basketball. I could have probably kept
trying because actually the coach at at and he got
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a job in Turkey and one of them shit's overseas.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It was like, yo, come over here, you know what
I mean? I said, what's the what I'm gonna be making?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
The money would have been cool. I'm like, I don't
know the language, I don't know the food. At that
time of my life, I don't want to go over there.
I don't want to be in no fucking yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah't want to lock in too early.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So I ended up going coming back to New York,
you know what I mean. And from there I think
that's where the real grind for the the music shit came.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
What year was this I got back?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That was twenty twelve, okay twelve, yeah, twenty twelve.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And you never looked at it. I mean, as I
see you never you never got yourself caught up in
no problems, no issues with the little sense. Unto this year.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Something that was that was twenty twenty two, y'all popped up.
Now these body cams bro like they got some other
ship going on like that. I think that's just some
new ship they on because I'm seeing a lot of
other rappers they released and body can't footage yeeah.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So it was on twenty two that happened.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, even even on that clip if you look at
the date, that ship three years ago. But he just
they just put it out. So then I got mad
people hitting me about a.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
D u I And because I woke up one day,
I was like she was. I was like, man, she
was three years old. Years okay, three years old? So
that was that was the only second time in your
life that you got arrested.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I've I've been arrested other times, but the gun ship
was the I want to sit down for anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What happened with it?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I ended up taking it. They offered the put that
ship in my car, or you gotta breathe in it
or whatever. I'm like, no, I ain't doing that, or
take a class. So I had to go take like
a like a three day class or whatever. End up
I had to take like a little test or whatever
for them to get past you you.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
A public figure, you know, so you gotta really watch
what you do.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I'm saying, you know, like you know what to be
not to cut you off. I I regret it, and
I don't. I regret that people seeing it in the
light they've seen it, but I'm human. I mean, at
the end of the day, I might be in the
studio four or five in the morning, might have had
been drinking some champagne or whatever, smoking whatever, and tored
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my driver and take the night or go on. I mean,
he might have to take his kids to school the
next morning. I'm still so shit happens. And I'm not
to say that's happening every night, but it does happen.
And on one of them nights, nigga might get going.
You might bump into the police. You get what I'm saying.
That happened, and that happened to me in that situation.
I'm glad I got out of that situation. The body
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cam shit is like you know what, I mean, he
can't even suit them or nothing. That's like public footage.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
They own that, they own that ship, the city owns that. Well.
You know, I'm happy that you got out out of that.
You know what, I'm saying you was able to, you know,
get out of that and all that because I know,
you know, as this is now, Davey's getting stopped to
different the cops know me. That's what I'm saying. It
wasn't like a regular guy that was just leaving Baltimore
coming back to New York. The police stop.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
They said, oh, I loved doing this, So I like,
I like this all I like, I'm like, this is crazy,
y'all still still.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Still, I mean, they're still doing their job right, still
doing their job.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I guess, man, everybody got a job to do.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I get it, man. I mean, you know people should
you know, look at what you know what as far
as like what you're doing, what you've been through and
in regards to you know, how how successful you've been,
you know, and how you managed to stay out of jail,
ship stay out of prison in your mindset, you went
to jail, did six months in jail, and ever since
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you was like this ain't for me. You're not the
only one that I ever said. That's how Some other
rappers and Joe was one of was like, man, fuck
that this. You know what I'm saying, Like, I gotta
do something better, and I know I can't.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That wasn't it because you you know what, I looked
at it like this after where I was like, it's
so easy to go in there, so easy, you know
what I mean, not real shit.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
The hard the hard ship is discipline or you know
what I mean, or saying nah, I ain't going with y'all.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The easy part is come on, that's the easiest part.
Is to go to jail. That's so easy to do,
bro so easy.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
So once I realized the amount of talent that's in
jail and the niggas, I mean, the jaila full of
psychos and crazy motherfuckers, there's a lot of great people
in there, you know what I'm saying, Like that that
that are smarter or more intelligent than the average motherfucker
outside with all the freedom in the world.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know what I mean. But that just wasn't no
place for me.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
There wasn't no way where I felt like I could
do anything, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just
felt like I was I was like under a rap
and that was for half a year. So I can
only imagine the niggas just doing five, ten, fifteen, twenty years.
Like you know what I mean, I salute I can
only salute it, you know what I mean, because that
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time is I can't get that time back, you know
what I'm saying, Like, you can't get that time back.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
But who's to say what might have happened to me
in that six months?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Because I was moving fast, you know what I mean,
Like I was God, Like God sat me down, like
you know what I mean, I was speeding.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, that was that was just good enough for you
to wake up. Man. The whole bunch of years, I
came out with a different You could just get just
just a little taste. You know absolutely that I never
especially the other way in Baltimore. Oh my god, you
know so yeah, I mean I like, I love the
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fact that you you was able to just look at
that from at a young age and say, you know what,
fuck that I'm not getting myself because you know, nowadays
were living on a different time. Man. You know, you
got all these young young brothers out here that you know,
they're all violent. They don't have no no no rules.
It looks like it looks like it's almost like it's
no because people could fuse out there. They think that
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because you're old head. You know, you know your old
g There's two different type of old dudes out there.
He's the old has and it's old g. You know
what I'm saying, Just me and you. You just up
and age. That's it. You know what I'm saying. You're
gonna give you that ship. It's gonna it's gonna enlighten
You's gonna give you that that mind change, the mindset,
your feeling is gonna direct you to a better place.
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You know what I'm saying. So I've been wanting you
to get a pick because you know, I love the
fact that you want. You know, you had your experience
with jail, and you never look back. You know what
I'm saying. Now you out here, you you you're doing
what you need to do. You know what I'm saying,
which is your music? You focus. I know that you're
a good dad. You know what I mean. We speak,
You know I know that you are. You know what
I'm saying, So, uh and I respect that that's gangster
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to me. You know what I'm saying. Uh and and
and and you you can influence. You can speak to
the young brothers out there that you know that that
are lost and they could see that. You know, hey,
David's got caught up six months. He never looked back.
You know what I'm saying you because you you have
a voice, you know what I'm saying. And this dog
in the yard is about having a voice right and
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be able to enlighten the young brothers out there and
sisters out there that they are wild with no rules
or no og to really pull them up and all that.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
You feel me, you just gotta you know what I
feel like? With that, you gotta just think about what
you really want to be or what you're really trying
to do. You know what I'm saying, Like you really can't.
And it's hard.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I get it, like I was. I was victim to it.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
But it's it's the moments, you know what I'm saying,
A five to ten minute moment to get you sent
up twenty thirty years, bro, Like you know what I
mean saying that might have only happened in five to
ten minutes maybe less, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So I just feel like sometimes you put in them situations.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Where you gotta figure it out, you know what I mean,
And that that might be the route you gotta take.
But I don't think that's no where somebody should be
wanting to go. That's not no cool place to go, right, you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Like like I feel like like you were just saying
with the old heads and the old g's you got
some older dudes that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Or talk about it like it's like like you gotta
you gotta go there, you know what I mean, Like
that's how you used to be, That's how you become
a man, That's how you that dead from me, that
is not no place for nobody, bro, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
You don't wish that shit.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah that ain't that ain't that's not it now. If
it happens, it happens.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
But you shouldn't be trying to do things to put
yourself in there, you know what I mean, Because all
criminals in jail are criminals that got caught.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You get what I'm saying, Like they all got caught.
Crime still goes on, you know what I'm saying, Like,
so you mean.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Take that for whatever it is, But criminals that's locked up,
anybody that's been locked up is because they got caught,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So you have to even be in a criminal you
gotta use your brain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You gotta think about this move that move, think about
who's a around you, think about who got your best intentions.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You know what I'm saying. That's hard to do in
the streets. That's hard to do in the world I'm
in now. It's hard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
That's just a hard in a different world, man, different world,
you know what I mean. So you came back, right,
I want to get back. So you got back been
back to New York after doing the six months.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
And a year, so I was down there in total
like nine eight and a half. So my last month
on that I was able to give a new address.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Come back up time. Okay, when you came back, talk
to me how you got it back, how you got
into the music? And you know.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
The addy I came back to was my cousins and
my aunts apartment she had she passed two thousand and eight.
I rap about it a lot, but she lived in
Ravenswood in Queens That's like the project right next to
Queens Bridge, right right up the block from Queens Bridge.
So I moved in with my cousin there and I
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kind of had been trying to funk around with the rap,
like like just rhyming and ship writ and ship my
phone or whatever. But I hadn't really recorded nothing really really,
you know what I mean. Like that I could really
get with you know what I mean. So a little
my man agent. He lived on the third floor. His
little brother was like an ill computer.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Nigga, my boy soul blind, big shut out the soul.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
That nigga can break a computer down, put it back together,
all this type of ship like ship, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was like, you're having that kind.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Of but writing up. He's right in the hood. I'm
on the sixth floor. You're on the third floor. That
box is just blocking you.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Much better sturdy. But yeah, he on the third floor.
I'm on the sixth floor. He got the computer ship,
you know what I mean. So I'm like, Yo, what
we need to record? I want to start, I want
to I want to rap.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I want to do.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
We could record in the crib. He's like, Yo, we
gotta get a pro tool inbox, some shit and a mic,
you know what I mean. When figured out at this time,
I'm selling my I got weed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That's my That was my hustle. I got the bug,
put my put our little bread together. Whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
We got a mic and a pro two inbox. I
don't even have to spitgird. I'm putting a duke rag
on the mic, sock whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Anything, you know what I mean, So the shit don't
pop when you you know what I mean. And this
nigga was my engineer right in the hood. So now
I'm recording shit, you know what I'm saying across across.
I liveing on thirty sixth Avenue, on thirty fifth Avenue.
My man gutter, he had like a little recording ship
in his closet. So we be and my ship we
go over there. But I'm now I'm doing this is
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my ship. I want to do every day, you know
what I mean. Like I'm getting like a love for
what I'm excited, dude, you're looking forward to doing it,
to finding new beats. And at this time I'm looking
up beats on YouTube. I ain't got no producers sending
me shit like you know what I'm saying. I'm trying
to find beats, taking beats that's already out wrapping over
them ships.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
My man guttas start making the t shirts. He had to.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I used to say lighted like lighted some you know,
like light up. That was like my little slogan and ship.
He made mad T shirts with the lighted on it.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, he all through the projects, niggas is wearing and
so I'm seeing like, oh, niggas is fucking with me,
Like all right, I get up with Jungle in Queens Bridge.
I'm going over there because I'm I be in the
bridge every other day, like you know what I'm saying,
probably every day, Like I'll be over there, get my
head cut over there, liquor store over there that's making food,
like everything.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Was I go to the bridge.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
So I'm with Junk, I'm with all of the I'm
with Jungle, I'm with but I'm around the nas people,
you know what i mean. Like I'm familiar with who
they are of course from the music and s like that.
But I'm seeing these niggas in the hood Bravehall, Like
where's all these I'm seeing these niggas.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
In the hood. We cool?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
What up?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What up? Familiar ship? Jungle? He's putting me. He's like, Yo,
niggas is I'm hearing you. I'm hearing about whatever whatever. Whatever.
I'm like, that shit got to you, like the ship
must be doing what he's doing. But he ain't really
make nothing up. It's, you know, just regular in the hoods.
She like not keep doing, keep doing, stay on that ship,
stay on that ship. Fast forward. It's like Summer gem
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or some ship. I think.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I think it was the last summer gam Nas did.
World were all in the bridge. God bless the dad.
My boy d block. We was d blocking with me
that to that summer jam. But Jungle we all together.
We go to summer Gym. But that that whole day,
Jungle's telling me, yo.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
My brother fucking with your ship, my brother. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
My brother, Nigga, like I only know Nas that your brother.
I don't you know what I mean? You got another
brother I don't know about. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But and that's that what he wasn't lying like you
know what I mean. So from there I stayed on it.
Naza's manager contacted me. I was at this time. I
was with Wayne O, who I brought up early. I
took my sho hot with and I got I got
to deal with Nas what And that was what twenty fifteen.
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I think twenty fifteen I signed with Massive Pill.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay, from then it was it was shut out to
a big, big shot out to Escow.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
You know what I'm saying. I know Nas for a
long time too. I haven't seen him in a minute,
but we know each other's like, you know, yeah, yeah,
back in the days. But how you caught it up.
I'm happy that you that you you still with the craft,
you know, because that'll showed you know, the young brothers
out there. You know, you got to just stick to it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Lock in, bro. It's like I was saying, easy is earlier.
It's so easy to go to jail. It's even easier
to quit some facts, you know what I'm saying, Like
to feel like you ain't got to support, or to
feel like I ain't got enough money to do that,
or I don't got the you know what I mean,
I don't have the things it takes to do that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Man, if you really love that ship and it's something
you can really see yourself doing and you enjoy doing it,
do it, bro, because because if you don't, you're gonna
be somebody that's looking back mad at yourself, telling yourself, damn,
if I do only I never want to be one
of the niggas. You know what I'm saying like that
look back and be regretting time that I just fucked over.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I want to ask you, uh you think about you
think prison reform is needed? Reform if you don't understand
the question, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I think, uh.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, I think it's needed. I think it helps. I
don't think. I don't think it's a bad thing, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think it definitely helps. I feel like I've seen
from what I've seen of it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I'm not really I can't really speak on that heaving
because I'm not involved with it, but from the outside
looking at it seemed that even if it helped the
few brothers, you know, I feel like.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's helped, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I get it. Appreciate you, man, But to ask you,
as far as I know, you gang affiliated. Gang affiliators
never been to jail. They have to go to jail,
don't have to don't got to bang out to be successful.
I mean, I mean, you know, to me, I mean
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you gang banging the right way because you're not You're
not out there. I never seen you out there. You know,
never heard of anything. No, you know what I'm saying.
What you do with I just respect because I know
that you're a good You're a good brother. You know
what I'm saying. I know that you handled your bunity,
You're responsible, You got your kids, you they come first,
I know. You know what I mean. So how you
balance all that between you know, you being you know,
I know you see a lot of different gang members,
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you know, across the world when you travel. How you
how you deal with all that?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
How you were men first? Bro? You know that before
any gang. You're a man.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I'm a man, you know what I mean. But with that,
I think it's levels to that's it's different. There's just
different levels to that.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know what I mean. You got niggas that's banging
all day long. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
You got niggas that's trying to do other shit, that's
trying to get money, that's trying to travel the world,
that's trying to you know what I mean, look at
beautiful paintings and just just do other fly ship you
know what I mean, trees and just want to do
fly ship for theyself and their families and shit like that.
It's just two different types of niggas under the under
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the gang umbrella.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know what I'm saying. You got some niggas that
you know that's that's that's what they live for. You
know what I mean to Bang?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You know what I mean, Like I I mean, it's
levels to it, and I think at different ages it
should shift, you know what I mean, Like I don't
knock nobody that bang, Like I get it, you know
what I'm saying, Like, but it's just shift after a
certain age.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
You shouldn't be on what you was on at. You
shouldn't be thirty and you're on the same time he
was on at fifteen.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You know what I mean with that? That mean you
ain't it's no growth there. You know what I mean.
You ain't. You ain't learned nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
You should always take uh negatives and positives and move
forward with the ship like you know what I mean,
like be doing something different.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So that's with me, with my with my my gang.
Tize is authentic? Is is? Is it could be?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
You know what I'm saying, Like that's my family. I'm
tied to that till I leave Earth, you know what
I mean. But I got kids, I got my mom's,
my pot, got family that I gotta.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
That's my game.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
You gotta be there for them first. That's the that's
the game that I gotta all the way secure, all
the way secure, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
And if the if the if the set or if
the homies don't understand or respect that, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But for the ones that do, we gotta, we gotta,
we gotta, we gotta up it.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We gotta take it as far as we can take
it because time is limited, you know what I mean.
We gotta take it far, man. That's what I'm not
here to do. Just just keep pushing it, you know
what I'm saying. So the next nigga that that that's
coming from a gang or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know what I mean. Like you.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Get what I'm saying, Ship, the next the next person
or that it's ship you could do with that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You know what I'm saying. That doesn't always end up
with jail or death. You know what I'm saying, Like
that ain't the guarantee the things you could you can
still do with this ship no matter what your background is.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Always be respectful, don't don't, don't tell on nobody, you
know what I mean? Certain ship, be a man, be
an honorable man.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But the gang.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Coming from a gang does not stop you from being
all you want to be in life. That's that's the
best advice I could give.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Don't, don't, don't put yourself in a box because all
because all you see is your hood, you know what
I'm saying, All you see is the homies. It's so
much more out here, bro, Like, there's so much more ship.
I still ain't seen the word beauty, you know what
I mean. There's so much I still ain't seen, so
that that would be my best advice, bro. Like, it
don't matter what set, what what color you banging, what
(31:04):
side you from, Like, it's shit you still could do
out here, That's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
It's a lot of shit you could still do out
here in a good, positive way and still be respected
and loved by those that you thought probably would have
never even looked at you.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, motherfuckers bug out on me all day. They'd
be like, yo, Pete got the dog in the yard.
Positive shit, you know. Going back to the president, I
mean three sixty pistol. Damn this nigga hit first, predigate rackets,
wilding out this. You know, I know a lot of
these young brothers. You're always young guys doing this shit forever.
And I was out wilding out in the industry, doing
stupid shit outside of the industry, inside the industry, in jail,
(31:41):
you know, and now to come come around people be like,
damn pistol.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Imagine how that make them feel about themselves when they
can see somebody with your background, knowing the type of
nigga you you was, It's that's still in you.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You just understand, you know what I'm saying. So imagine
how they view that and how they view yourself now,
Like oh noh, Like I was just saying earlier, there's
always room for growth, bro fact, you know what I mean,
unless you got four five life bids, Like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, if it ain't that, if it's some type of
light at the end of that tunnel, take advantage.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Of it, absolutely, keep going positive energy, taking advantage of it,
fall away and everything. Absolutely, that's the fact.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So he's what you got going on these days now.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Calmer four man, were about to drop.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Right here, yeah, right here, Umber four first my first
official independent album solo.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Okay, yeah, man, I put some put some pain.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I put some pain and.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Make sure you go out there and support you. You know, Dave,
I put some pain in that. We put some pain
into it. Oh, you know it's strange to I'm talking.
I want to bring this up to you.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I got a situation now where I'm getting all my
music into jails. Uh, I gotta I can't think of
the exactly ship. I'm gonna find out j J something
else where. It's like the whole you're getting my whole catalog.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
They could get my whole ship. Wow. Album, Like what
I got music that's just gonna be for the jail.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Wow, that's super.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's not gonna be shipped that. I'm like, you're not
gonna be able to get it on Apple just for that.
It's just for the jail.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
That's focus.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
That's dopey John, my boy John put that together. But
right now they're gonna love They're gonna love it.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
They're gonna love it. You got definitely fans in the
jail system. Prison system that's gonna appreciate you hearing you out.
I know what you're gonna lay down. It's gonna be
inspiring for them, you know, except to keep going, you
know what I mean. So it's gonna be. It's gonna be.
That's a good look. Congratulations. You know what I'm saying.
I love what you do, Davies. Keep doing your thing.
Appreciate you having you know, me having you here on
(33:51):
dog of the y'all.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
This overdude, mante man, Yeah, okay, I like the fact
that I see you like I see you. You know
what I'm saying. I bump and see you always you
always are good.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I always gonna be good. Man.
It's always gonna be good. You know why, because you
don't owe me nothing, you don't own nobody nothing. Man,
It's always gonna be genuine women, it's gonna be. I like,
I love the positive. I want you to feel comfortable
and be good when you see because I feel good
when I like to see you when I see you,
don't what's around You know what I'm saying, What we
(34:27):
got going to what we got That's how this ship go.
You feel me and I respect you. You know what
I'm saying as not only as a man, because that's
off off the back. But I know that I'm a
good dad. You know, I'm into those people that you know,
those individuals that are dad. Me and you had a
chat before about you being in somebody life that wasn't
(34:49):
even your child, right, and you raising him like he's
your child. That's big to me because I have I
have a kid.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I have a child.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
His name is David, and he's not he's I'm not
his dad, bolog you, but I raised them pops. And
he's just turned sixteen. We just got him a car, right,
I just flew out to Florida. Yeah, you know, so
you better get ready. You got to get through little.
I got him a little I got him a little
car floor because my kids, some of my kids. I
(35:16):
got nine kids, but Davids in Florida with my other
two kids. So I flew out there. We got him
a car, you know. And what I'm saying to you
is that like his name, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah David. So my thing is that appreciate you man
put up his He just turned sixteen, and and I
love him the same way I love all my kids.
And when I when I count, when I say I
(35:38):
got nine kids, he is one of the nine. You
feel me, So that right there, regardless of how motherfuckers
look at you, when the motherfuckers know what you deep
inside with with you, the things that you do for
your kids and how you there for them and all that, right,
that's the whole different level of respect to me. You
know what I'm saying. For me, it's a whole different level.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know how I look at that. It's like like
with Jay when I when I got came into his life,
it was three years old. You know what I'm saying, baby, Yeah, baby,
so you know what I mean, I would have felt
like a sucker to not you know what I mean,
and not hold that damn or that teach him everything
I know as a man and how you know, I mean,
(36:19):
just how to fight everything, just everything that I know
as a man that you need to have out here
as a man that you can't get from a woman. No,
not to nobody, moms or There's just certain things that
you gotta get from from a man, some kind of
from a man or from the streets.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Something.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You gotta get that from him, you know what I mean.
I feel like I would have been a sucker to
not do that, you know, what I mean. And I
love him to death. I love him like he came
from from.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
So that in fact, with that and you listen, man,
motherfuckers respect that ship. You know what I'm saying. You
know mean, just because you God, if you're there for
a child, you fucking with somebody's whatever, ex wisdom and
all that. Girl and you, they come along with the
baby that they are part. She came with the baby.
She's the baby is a part of them. So you gotta,
you gotta, you gotta be able to embrace that baby,
(37:08):
especially if the baby ain't got no dad, or they
not doing nothing, or they dad, whatever the situation may be.
You know what I'm saying, it's your job to embrace
that baby. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, anyway, man,
I just want to salute you for that, bro. You
know what I'm saying. I respect you a lot for that.
You know what I'm saying. I love that. And with
that being said, man, you already knows your boy pistol
p Dave's Harlem. You already know look out for the
(37:32):
joint about the part I told her fifteen. Make sure
you look out for Davis. We here be tapping with us.
You know, is your boy pistol pe dog in the yard?
Hold on, what up? What up? You already knows your
boy pistol p walking back the dog in the yard.
(37:53):
First and foremost, I want to thank Dave's for coming through.
Appreciate you a little bro. Keep doing your thing, uh,
keep representing for the youth arm. You know, listen, Man
Davis is very important for my platform because he's a
young brother out there that went to jail, did six
(38:13):
months in jail, never came back, and now he's out
here living his dreams. I mean he's also a nice
basketball player, so you already know. So he's super nice
with the ball. So pause, and with that being said,
man I told with fifteen, make sure y'all go get
that column four. Go support my little brother Davi's. You
(38:34):
already know we're here for you. Man dogging the y'all
your boy pistol at the man she was because my chain,
Stay out of my leg playing my charge and be
(38:54):
your friend. Yeah, I ain't going you load and Clinton
in your friend. A sand coffee is down, amost a
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