That’s That Freakin’ Werewolf! - Dogman Encounters Episode 617

Mark was featured on Episode 615, and on that show he told us about several encounters he’s had with what he and his friends call a Werewolf. Due to how much he had to share, on that show, we ran out of time, so I wasn’t able to ask him questions about his experiences. I asked him if he’d be willing to come back, so I could ask him a list of questions about his encounters. He agreed, so we're going to dive deeper into his encounters on tonight's show. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
At a.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Book.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
If you'd like to be able to listen to the
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Dogmanencounters dot com forward slash podcast. If you listen to
last Friday Night show, you heard tonight's guest come on
and talk about several Dogman Encounters he's had. Well, he

(01:48):
had so many experiences that we didn't have time for
me to ask him questions about those encounters. Well, with
that in mind, I asked him if he'd be interested
to come back for a Q and A. He agreed
to do that, So here we are Mark. Thanks so
much for coming back.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hey, Vick, I appreciate you having me again.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh, we appreciate you being here. We really do. Mark.
For the people who missed episode six point fifteen last
Friday Night, please tell them about yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
My name is Mark and from West Tennessee. I was
born in nineteen ninety one, and you know, growing up
was small town, what much do around, so kind of
outdoors A type of person. I raised motocross most of
the time, played football and baseball and all that. Once
I got out of high school, I went into the
trade school for industrial maintenance, and then that's what I

(02:39):
do now. So I do a lot of PLC programming
industrial electricity and whatnot. But other than that, I like
to just take care of my family and keep the
bills paid.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, as long as you're doing that, you're doing it right.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Hats off to you, and a lot of people who
are listening to tonight's show, they probably missed Friday night show.
So with that in mind, can you run this through
the encounters that you told us about on Friday show.
I don't need you to go into it nearly as
much detail as he did Friday Night, but if you
can talk us through your experiences so that people listening

(03:14):
tonight who missed that show have an idea what happened
to you, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
All right. Like short story for him my wrist friend Sam.
One night it was a full moon. He was riding
his bicycle and like I said, we were younger back then,
and he's seen this dog man or werewolf whatever it is,
down by the railroad tracks at the old dump. And
you know, he made a big hype about it wouldn't
come out after dark. But the main thing is, you know,

(03:40):
after we got a driver's license, and the years went on,
he would never stop and go pee you when we're
riding around unless there's a street light. So it was
always bringing the issue up because we would be riding
around and he wouldn't let me stop unless they're a
street light. To be well, one night we were riding
around and that happened, and I was like, well, let's

(04:00):
just go find this thing, because he would obviously made
me go stop at a street light to go pee. But
so we went riding around looking for it and we
didn't see nothing. It was a full moon that night
as well, but I dropped him off and then on
my way home, I actually ran into one into my car,
and it was on the highway. I did it. It was
going about I was doing about seventy mile an hour

(04:22):
and it knocked it off the road, but it didn't
kill it. It left black hair jammed in my bumper.
I collected the hair and put it in a chip
bag and it's in the car now, still out its shop.
But and then as time went on, you know, every
time it was a full moon, we'd kind of make
a game out of it. Let's go look for the werewolf. Well,
we were right around, and no, we wouldn't see it

(04:45):
most of the time. But one of the times we
were riding, we was with Tyler and Aaron and me
and Sam and we're going down to Wellington Road and
lower behold, here comes that thing that come running right
across the road and then run to the left. We
stopped right there where it crossed, and Tyler pulled an
AR fifteen out, had a flashlight on it and a laser,

(05:08):
and he pointed it at the werewolf or whatever you
want to call it, dog man, and like I said,
the eyes lit up red and we took off. After that,
he didn't even shoot it. He got so scared he
dropped his gun and took off. And then as we
were going down the road about five or so miles,
we've seen something again to the left of the road
in the tree line, and so that kind of freaked

(05:29):
us out as well, but we kept on rolling about,
and then once Tyler dropped everybody off, I was last
one to get dropped off. He swore to me that
he knew that we were playing a joke on him
and who was it? And they thought we were actually
making the whole thing up and had somebody in a
gorilla suit or something waiting on him. But then, like
I said, after that night, another night that was kind

(05:50):
of spooky. If we run down matthis lane and it
dead ends, and I'd had it smoking a cigarette and
I put it out in the Mountain Dewken on accident.
About five minutes later or so, Sam took a swig
of that can and we took it to the wig over.
He about threw up and he literally just lung the
thing out the window and you can hear it land

(06:10):
in the woods. But we turned around at the dead
end and came on back through, and that Mountain Dewke
can was sitting right in the middle of the road.
You know, we didn't see nothing physically, but just the
can being in the middle of the road. It was
kind of creepy. And it was a full moon once again,
and we were out looking for the werewolf dog man.
So and now, like I said, another time, you know
my brother and now they've seen it one time too,

(06:32):
But he said it was a bear. It had to
have been, but we don't have bears around here.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So you went out looking for it before you started
having these encounters with it. Do you think it started
revealing itself to you because it's somehow new, you were
looking for it or for some other reason.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know. I kind of felt that way, you know.
It's just the way that we felt about it is
we always said this, I had to be a full
moon and you had to be talking about it to
see it. And that last time, whenever I've seen it
in my yard, it freaked me out. I mean, it
was just it really freaked me out. Because when you're
riding around and you're on a back road or something

(07:09):
that's not your home, you know, and if you can
see whatever out there, it's it's okay, it's not in
your homestead. But when I went out my door that night,
looked to the left on the side yard and seen
it in the yard, that was it for me. I really,
I wasn't playing games no more. It became serious at
that point.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I bet it did. Like I told you before, it's
one thing to have encounters with these guys away from home,
but when they bring the party to your house, that's
a totally different matter. So I understand, I get it,
I really do. When you consider all these things, though,
like it's seemingly understanding, its seemingly knowing when you're looking

(07:48):
for it, and some of these other things, some of
these other factors involved with your encounters. It's kind of
hard to explain this away by you dealing with a
flesh and blood creature that doesn't have any special abilities.
How sure are you or aren't you that this is
some kind of a spiritual being or are you convinced
it's flesh and blood.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's a hard that's a hard thing to answer. But
I'm one hundred percent sure that it is a physical being.
As far as spiritual, God, I don't know about spiritual
because you know, multiple people, if you're there, you can
see it, and kind of like in a spiritual like sense,
you only one person would see it, you know, kind
of like a hallucination of some sort. But it was

(08:33):
definitely in the flesh and blood, because like I said,
when I hit it, I did get hair from it,
but there wasn't no blood on the vehicle or the
ground or anything. But I would definitely say it's in
the flesh and blood for sure. And as far as
the spiritual goes though, But it's kind of odd that
when we talk about it is whenever it shows itself,

(08:54):
you know, if we're not. If it's not a full
moon and we're not talking about it, we don't never
see it. But I don't know. It's It's kind of
a hard question because I haven't really been up close
to the thing, and there isn't really much documentation on
the thing either other and you could get online and
read books and whatnot, but you just really don't know
what to believe when you're online or reading stuff. But

(09:16):
when you can see something it's physically in front of you,
then you know it's it's there.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh, there's no denying it. If you've had a Dogman encounter,
I would like to speak with me about it, whether
I'm private or on the show, Please go to dogmanencounters
dot com and submit a report. You just said that
you think it's flesh and blood, but if something happens
down the road that convinces you this thing is a
spiritual being. How much worse does that make all this?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think it makes it better, Vick. Really it may. Yes, Yeah,
I'm always up for a good a good spook anyways.
But as long as it they don't try to hurt
me or my family, it can do whatever it wants
to do and live its life, just like I am.
What the fact that it's so sneaky and whatnot, and

(10:06):
you just don't see it all the time too. It
just it just makes you kind of wonder. It's the
wondering that'll get people.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, that's what gets them every time. And I can
appreciate you feeling the way you do. But something to
consider if you haven't considered this already, because you just
might have, is the fact that it obviously seems to
enjoy frightening you. And if it is a spiritual being
instead of a flesh and blood creature, then by being

(10:34):
a spiritual being a nature, it's going to be able
to frighten you that much more because of all the
things that can do that a flesh and blood creature couldn't.
So what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, that is true, and we don't know how this
thing works, you know, does it run off frequencies?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
You know?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
How does it see? You know? Is it color blind
or what kind of Is it kind of like a fly?
Does it have you know, multiple de means that is
seeing n So, I don't know, Vick, It's that's just
kind of odd. I don't know how to really explain it,
but it's definitely something to worry about, you know, if
you're seeing it and you know it something came to

(11:13):
your house. And like me, I truly believed that we
all got a mark of the beast on it. Kind
of type deal is he knows who we are, he
knows we've seen it. And I don't know if it
keeps track on us to this day or not, or
even if the thing still exist and is around, because
it has been a few years since this has all happened.
But you know, when I was talking to a girl

(11:34):
at the gas station at exon the cashier down to Walnut,
I told her, you know, hey, check out the episode
on tall Man Encounters. I gave it to her and
she actually told me her own experience and this is
the first time I've ever heard of somebody seeing one
during the daylight. She claims that her and a couple
of her cousins were walking down and hear Hatchie Bottom

(11:56):
and there's an old wooden bridge and it was broad
daylight outside, and when they walked up toward this bridge
that there was something black laying across the bridge and
it was really really long, and she said it looked
like it had been in a fire, like it was
like in sitting there whimpering type deal, like it was
suffering and injured on the bridge. Well, when they got

(12:16):
close to it, you know, they boat, they all paused
and looked at it, and the thing jumped up and
said that She said it just was evil, pure evil,
that it was the devil. It was this most gnarliest
thing she had ever seen in her life. And when
it took off running, it was literally plowing trees down
as it was running through the woods. Now, I made

(12:39):
her describe that, MOI. I was like, what do you
mean plowing trees down? I said, you're talking about siplings
or what. She was like, yeah, not real big trees,
but syplings, trees that are about at least, you know,
three to four inches of tall. She said, it was
just running them plumb over as it was running away
into the woods. So, in this accounter happened around three
o'clock here in the daylight, and what I understood, this

(13:01):
thing only come out at nighttime. And she was saying
she's seen something similar during the day and acted like
it was heard and injured and was whimpering on that bridge.
So I don't know, and that just that brings a
whole new light to the whole ball game for me,
because as far as I'm considered, it comes out at
night and when it's a full moon.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Ah No, they definitely come out during the day. I
apologize not making sure you understood that. Yeah, there have
been a lot of encounters during the d time hours.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, see, I didn't know that, Vick. Yeah, I did
not know that.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh yeah, Unfortunately, you can have a dog man encounter anytime.
When she talked about it, did she ever describe it
in the way the medi you think, okay, yet, must
have been a dog man or quote unquote we're a wolf.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely she as matter of fact, she's about
a half a mile of the road from it. Now.
I just went in the store and grabbed a red
bull before we started talking. But she said that it
was about seven foot tall, and that's about accurate. Whenever
you listen to anybody's interview, they all always say it's
over six foot tall anyway, So she said it was
seven foot tall. In the eyes, she said they were red, now,

(14:07):
not like it red glowing That night with me and
Martindale were out in sam when the flashlight was on
it she's saying that the thing had red eyes in
the broad daylight, and that the hair on it, it
wasn't real thick hair, like like a hair on your head.
It was like spaced out, kind of like it had
been in a like in a fire or some sort.
So in the skin, she said that it was just

(14:29):
the skin was black as well, but it was just
kind of like a charred black color, and that the
bones and everything and where the joints are right, she said,
every joint was protruding, and it just looked nasty, kind
of like a mangy dog is what she kind of
described it as. And she said it just put the
fear of evil over and she was, I mean convinced

(14:51):
one hundred percent that that thing is demonic. And when
she went back to her went and talked to her
papa or whatever, you know, they went back out looking
to see if they could find something, and they didn't
see nothing of no kind of trail or anything where
it went. And I was like, well, did they see
any tracks? And she was like, I don't know, you know,
but they went back with the shotgun trying to find it. So,

(15:12):
but like I said, it was seven foot tall, had
red eyes. The hair was black. Its skin was black,
but the hair was kind of patchy, kind of like
it was mangy.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
That poor thing. That must have scared her to death.
How frightened was she when she told you about her
encounter there at the X line.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh, she was. She was bouncing around, up and down.
That's how I could tell that she was telling me
the truth too, because like she was, you could tell
whenever she was talking about it, it was getting her
fired up again, you know, And she was just on me,
pouncing back and forth, running and when she was describing it,
shut her arms up, you know, and everything else. But

(15:51):
she was still terrified of it. And she was like,
there's a lot of stuff out here that people don't
really see that if you come up on it in
the wrong time, it's gonna spook you for sure.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, that it will. It definitely will. And how long
ago did you see this happened?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I don't know. She said it was years and years back,
so I don't know on an exact date, but it
was I think it was like ten years ago or so,
in the last ten years. Because she was a little
bit younger, I know that, and she's a little bit
spying her thirties or forties now somewhere around in there.
So and it was the never young enough to be
out walking on the back roads, and said the reason

(16:28):
they were out walking. Matter of fact, I know she
was younger because she said they were trying to smoke
a cigarette, so that way your folks couldn't see them smoking,
so they went off down the road to smoke them cigarette.
So it was definitely ten plus years ago.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
But when she was telling you, it was like she
was reliving it. Yeah, exactly, sounds like she is traumatized
by it still, y'all. To put a bug in here
and have her submitted report, I'd be more than happy
to talk with her. But of course, please don't pressure
her to contact me, but if she does, I'll be
there for her.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I tell you I told her about actually I wrote
down your information for her, and when I went to
the store earlier that she still has the little yellow
sticky note on her refrigerator and she's supposed to be
getting with you on it.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, she is listening. There's no pressure to do it.
But yeah, if she wants to contact me to get
some help, I'll be there for be glad to help.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, and hers to me kind of stood out because
it was during the daylight. You know, I was just
kind of odd, you know, and kind of how I
see it as a as a factors going to werewolf,
you know, it has to be the moonlight out and
that they can't come out in the dark, I mean
during the day, and she said it was kind of suffering.

(17:40):
So to me, I'm like, well, why was this thing
out in the daylight. I wonder if the daylight's kind
of you know, it makes it its powers down, you know,
like it's kind of just affecting it to where it's
not thinking right, because for one, it was just laying
on that bridge like it was injured and was kind
of whimpering. And she did say too, it made out
of a screech. I forgot about that. She did say.

(18:03):
It made a sound, but with a sound that she
described it was kind of like a woman screaming, like
a hollering, but it wasn't like woman like. It was
just like that high pitch of whenever it took off
on her. So she said that I forgot all about
that park. We're so made it was screaming in but
I don't know, it was just odd for me to

(18:23):
hear about one year in the day.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh yeah, you know, like I said, they happened all
the time during the D two And yeah, I don't
think it was heard. I think it was just doing
what it did to get their attention and probably make
it more likely for them to approach it before it
jumped up, and it did that routine. Basically. Yeah, that's
still going to frighten the dickens out of you, especially
if you're young.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Hey, it fed me at any age saying something like that,
and especially knowing what I know about him. Now, you know,
you think that it's an uncommon event, but if you
really started, there's just not many people talk about it.
They want to don't want to sound like a yahoo,
you know, want to sound like a crazy But once
you start talking about it, you bring the story up.

(19:05):
There's a lot of people that see these things. This
is something that they can't explain, and the first thing
they know toward is like it's a werewolf dog man.
And you know, I didn't realize it until you know,
we start talking about the show on the podcast or whatnot.
I've been talking about a lot around and like I said,
there is a lot of people that have seen them.

(19:26):
So that kind of makes me wonder if it goes
back to we talked about before, if it was the
same one that we kept seeing during them years, it
could be multiple ones.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, that's entirely possible.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And what what was I seen a comment on the
podcast on the YouTube what is a wind to Go?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, a wind to Go is a cryptid that supposedly
it's a person who is cursed, and I think they're
transformed into the form of this monstrous being that has
antlers on its head like a buck, and it has
really tall and linky and I think it has claws

(20:08):
in most cases. But if you do a search on
YouTube for wind to Go, then you'll get the phone buck.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I took you. I did a little small search
and I seen one that had antlers on it, and
all the things that we say, none of them had
antlers on it. You know. It was a kind of
a flat top head kind of like it wasn't like
real rounded the head of its kind of flat, but
it definitely didn't have no antlers on it. And that
just makes you wonder what kind of creatures are out there. Man,

(20:38):
There's there's all kind of stuff out there that we
don't know about, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Now this might sound like a strange question, but the
reason why I'm asking you this is your encounter has
really frightened you. But from how I've heard you talk
about them, I get the impression that if you had
maybe not all the time moving forward, but if occasionally

(21:04):
through the years this thing popped up and you continue
to have random encounters, as long as you didn't get hurt,
you'd be okay with that. That it might be a
good thing about that.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Or absolutely absolutely, I'm intrigued by it, like I'm very,
very interested. You know, it does scare me, don't get
me wrong, But it's just the thought of being able
to witness something like that to me is it's like
a blessing and it's a you know, not everybody gets
to see one, and if I'm lucky enough to see it,

(21:40):
then I feel like that's more of a luck than
bad luck type of thing. But going on the fact,
you know, as long as it's not hurting me or
hurting nobody else, then it would be a witch hunt.
If it was the other way around, if this thing
was hurting people or doing that, then it'd be another way.
But I just kind of feel blessed to be able
to see the thing, and I would just want to wonder,

(22:01):
you know, does it choose who it lets it see itself?
You know, because it's gotta have some kind of intelligence
behind them to stay hidden in the ass much as
it does. So I wonder if it picks its victims
that see him.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh, normally, I think they do. And it might seem
strange to hear someone talk about wanting to have a
dog man encounter for the uninitiated, but yeah, that's how
it is in a lot of cases, not most cases,
but in more cases than what you would expect. Eyewitnesses
they say if they had their druthers sometime down the road,
they'd want to have another encounter as long as they

(22:36):
weren't harmed. It's hard to understand, but that's how it is.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah. Like Sam, you know, the first one that witnessed
it in our group, he's terrified now. He does not
want to see it at all, Like it just it
freaks him completely out. Like I said, he won't even
I don't know about now. I'll probably feel I haven't
been outride with him in a while. Like I said,
he wouldn't even be unless there's a street light out.
We're basically grown, you know, we had the driver's license

(23:04):
and pain in our own bills, everything else that he
wouldn't even bee unless they're the street light. So they said, yeah,
some people they kind of feed into it and some don't.
I guess that would kind of be like your people
you got to go out in these documentaries, say like
bigfoot hunting, and then people that go out in the
Knights and coon hunt and all that, Like they it's

(23:24):
the fear of the unknown that kind of attracts them because,
like they always say, the the more live you feel,
the closer to death you are, the more alive that
you feel. So I think it's just the adrenaline rush
that gets people like me. The adrenaline of it just
kind of hipes me up, and I kind of it's
kind of like a drug. You know, you do a

(23:45):
drug and you get that rush. Well, when I see
the dog man werewolf thing, I get that hit of
dopamine and I feel that rush and I'm trying to
go get it again. I think it's how I'm I
kind of feel about it. And then some you know,
like I said that it terrifies them and they just
want to run away. So it's kind of like either
the fight or flight kicks in and are depending on

(24:08):
the individual that's having that experience.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, if that idea about I'm more excited you are
the closer you are to Death's door. The night he
turned to the left and saw that old boy right
there by your house. But you were just you were
knocking on Death's door.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, yeah, I steal that, man. I could just speel
it right now. It's giving me chills. And then it
and by the time I made it through the house
and to that side bedroom, you know, and looked out
that window, it was gone. You know, it was gone.
I don't understand why it would have stayed there while
the dogs are barking and everything else. And then I

(24:48):
come outside and look, and then it once it's seen
that I seen him and then went in the house,
that went ahead and went back off into the darkness.
So that's just kind of odd. It goes back to
the thing it feeds off of, the fear, like it
loves the scare people.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Mark. I've explained to literally thousands and thousands of dog
me and eye witnesses that in almost every case, these
guys will go miles out of their way to force
an encounter to happen, and then once it's in process,
once they can see they frightened you to within an
inch of your life. Okay, well, mission accomplished. Move on.

(25:26):
Does that sound familiar. That's exactly what happened that night
when you turn to the left and saw it.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yes, I mean exactly what it is. And I'm one
hundred percent convinced of it, one hundred percent convinced, because,
like I said, it's had its time. Just like when
Sam was riding his bicycle. You know, he wasn't but
a kid basically, and if it wanted to get him
that night, it could have got him. I mean right
there in the flesh. It was sitting there eating on

(25:55):
that dead carcass or whatever it was, but eating on
that carcass, and he was alone down there, with the
full moon shining, there was nobody around. It could have
just snatched them right up, and it chose not to.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
So exactly the reason we hear.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
About it scaring people is because the ones that we
don't hear about are then people that disappear and nobody
knows what happened.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And I'm sure that happens too, it's just not the norm.
If it was the norm, then the numbers wouldn't be
what they are. But I'm never gonna say that that
doesn't happen, because I'm sure it does happen. Where these
guys do kill people once in a blue moon.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Some for the ala. But it's kind of like they're
intell Like I told you, I think they have some
type of intelligence and they know that if they go
attacking a bunch of humans that we're gonna rally up,
we're gonna get the torches out, we're gonna go in
the woods and we'll find them and we'll think their
whole species. I mean, that's just how the humans go,
you know. It's just like with the Neanderthals, you know,

(26:56):
way history goes. They say that the Homo sapiens, you know,
took out the Neanderthals and that's why we don't see
none of them anymore. Which the Neanderthals were actually more hairy,
they were had more muscle mass than we did. But
the Homo sapiens had the mind, so they would trick
them a lot, and that's how they were able to
over out smart them and take them out. Was not

(27:18):
brute force, but by using their head and planning. So,
like I said, I think the dog men know that
if they go out and they go around killing people's
kids and whatnot, or even you know, somebody's brother, sister, aunt, uncle, mom,
and dad, that all the family is going to rally around.
And then once the family rallies around, then all the

(27:38):
friends are going to rally around and everybody's they're gonna
take care of the issue.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, they're really intelligent, so yeah, of course
they realize that. From listening to you talk about your
first sighting, it sounds to me like you think the
main reason why you had that encounter was how loud
your mustang was. Is that accurate?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
That is that very accurate? Yep, Like I said, I think,
and it might even hurt its ears, you know, might
not even like that mustang because it was a straight pipe.
You know, it's real loud. So it definitely was bringing
attention to me. And the fact that you know, it
ran out the road like that and hit the car,

(28:20):
I hit hit whatever, you know. I honestly think that
was an intentional and it could take some type of
damage like that, because like I said, there was no
blood and there wasn't a body, but there was this
hair left over. So I honestly think it was just
getting my attention.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right, then, you just might be right about that. I mean,
if anyone listening hasn't listened to episode one seventeen, that's
probably the most popular episode of the show, Episode one
seventeen of dog Me and the Encounters. Here. On that episode,
the guest GT talked about his coronet, his Dodge coronet,

(28:58):
and how loud it was, and he was driving through
the country one night when he had a bad dog
Man encounter and he thought that how loud his car was,
that's why he had that experience. So you just might
be right about that. You just might be could be.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And then going back like marks its targets too, you know,
and that Sam was already on his list, and then
I was always going out looking for me. He finally
showed itself. He just might be right, absolutely, Vic, I'm
telling you I hit when I hit that thing, Vic,
I was doing seventy and it stopped me to twenty

(29:37):
mile an hour. I mean, in that instant. I mean,
it is amazing that how much force it was to
stop that car like that, Because I fit deer and
dogs before you know you hit it, you keep moving, man.
That thing had to have had some type of strength
to stop that car like that, or some type of
weight behind it or whatever. So it was definitely strange.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
See, that's the thing mark. It would have had to
have so much more mass than it had to slow
you from seventy to twenty almost instantly. If it did that,
it had to have some kind of spiritual qualities to it,
because you cannot explain that away using conventional means. There's

(30:18):
just no way to do that.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yes, and the fact that it directed all the impact
to the bumper and didn't touch the hood on the call,
like I explained before, that was just weird in its
own And it was small enough, like low enough to
the ground to where it didn't touch the hood, but
yet long enough to bust each headlight out and the

(30:42):
blinker light. It's as crazy. This kind of makes you
think of what kind of powers it might have, if
it can direct energy in a certain direction or whatnot.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You know, bull, no doubt, here's another thing about that.
It just doesn't make sense unless it was a spiritual being.
That mustang. It was a unibody car. It's designed to
crumple when it hit something like that with a front impact.
It's designed, since everything is connected to everything else on
a unibody car, it's designed to crumple. So it would

(31:15):
not make sense at all for just the bumper to
be pushed in the way it was and the hood
not crumple up and the whole front end be shoved
back into the driver's compartment. If you hit something that
was able to slow you from seventy miles an hour
to twenty almost instantly, that just would not make sense
at all, unless, like I said, it was a spiritual being.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, I'd say, I know you understand exactly what I'm
talking about. That's the part that freaked me out the
most was how come you know, like you said, why
the engine should have been tucked into the dash to
be from an impact from seventy to twenty mile an hour?
You know what I mean? It should have literally totaled
that car out, and it didn't it. I mean, it

(31:58):
messed it up pretty good to come along and tight
chain to a tree and you know, straighten everything back out.
But I was able to buy two headlights, a blinker cover,
a new Mustang emblem in the front and a bumper cover,
and you know I was good to go.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all. You shouldn't have
been able to drive that car ten feet, let alone
work on it a little bit and then drive it home.
That just does not make sense at all.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yep. And when, like I said, the bumper, when it
didn't impact it, it didn't push it, you know, forward
into the engine bay, it kind of knocked it toward
the ground to where the actual bumper behind the bumper
cover was dragging the ground, you know, throwing sparks out
as I was going down the road. So that's just
it's kind of odd how it all happened. And then

(32:48):
the fact where it went down and then I didn't
run it over either. It's like it directed the energy
to one spot, you know, going straight down and then
kind of backwards a little bit. But and you know,
I wanna, well whenever, if we get done with this,
I'll get you some pictures of the car, and I'll
even pull that bumper back and you might can throw

(33:09):
the pictures up on the screen as you know how
you have a background photos coming.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Through, Yeah, I sure do.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
There in the stream, I'm gonna try to see if
I can get that car back out it's in the bushes,
I still have it, but I might can take a
picture of it too, and you might can throw it
up there for the viewers to see it. Sure.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, if you can send me those pictures, If you
can pull it out all the bushes there and send
me some pictures of it, I'll do that definitely.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay, Yeah, well we'll see if we can make that happen.
And even if you want to, I can even go
to every location that we spotted it and I can
take a shot of the location that we spotted if
you want to, you know, let them all of them
screen across it. So just give the viewers something a
little different, you know, some facts behind the story.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, if you're doing that, their.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Visual, Yeah, they have their visual and then they will
actually be able to see it on this one.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, if you can do that, I'd be more than
happy to do those things.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And then I seen where a guy he was on
the comments. Did you read that one where he was like,
don't let nobody get their hands on that hair, should
never get it back.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, that's true. He's right about that.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yes he is. That's kind of like the first time
that we talked, I kind of I said, you know,
the government hides a lot of stuff from the public,
and that's kind of one of them deals, like you
wouldn't want to let nobody get their hands on it.
But at the same time, I think I could come
off of a little bit of it. I would take
that chance, just to see if I could get somebody to,

(34:41):
you know, run the hairs and see what kind of
species that was.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, see, that's the thing. If they do tell you
what species it is, it's going to come back Dutch
shepherd or some nonsense like that. They're never going to
tell you what it actually was exactly. Yep, yep, that's right.
It had to be a real trusted source, you know. Yeah,
good luck finding one of them.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I sure don't know nobody.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Two of us it does. Now. Something else I don't
understand is you said it was pretty close to the
ground as it was running that night. Did it seem
to be trying to stay low to the ground or
did it seem like that was only due to it
being long but not tall.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It seems like it was trying to it. Does it
seems like it was, I mean, just like it's belly
was on the ground. And I don't know if that
was just you know, because of how fast it was
moving or whatnot, but it was definitely staying low. It
wasn't like a deer when a deer's jumping up, you know,
a deer jumps upward. This was kind of running like

(35:45):
sort of like a cheetah. You know how when a
cheetah's running full speed, it's kind of leaping forward, but
it's staying low to the ground to like stay low
so it's prey doesn't see it like it's hunting, you know,
and it's trying to stay under the grass. And that's
how this thing was running. Vic it was. It come

(36:05):
out from the woodline, and the strides in the distance
that it was making on each step was amazing. I mean,
it was just unexplainable how fast this thing was moving.
Every step that it took. It was almost like it
was covering ten to twelve foot on each step. I mean,

(36:26):
just moving real, real fast. And all this happened in
the blink of an eye. But like I said, when
it and then when it came out of the tree
line is about I don't know, ten foot, you know too,
it starts going up the hill because the highways built
up on the hill. And it was probably one step,
two step, three step, and then into the fourth step

(36:48):
is when I actually ran into it. And you know,
and that's a good distance. That's almost like twenty yards
to thirty yards or so, and it covered it in
three steps.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
See that right there is exactly why I told people
you don't get away from a dog man. If it
has it, it wants to get you. It's letting it
get away if you do.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yes, Yes, it feeds off that. That's what it's I
think that's what it does for fun, you know, that's
just this purpose. It does that for fun, like a
cat scratches on a scratch post, you know, like that
the dog men go out. They just feed off of
scaring people. They really do. There's no other way to

(37:30):
explain it, you know, the way the sightings occur because
it's like it shows enough of itself to where you
see it, but it won't let you get close enough
to where you can really pinpoint it, you know what
I mean, or close enough to where you can even
endanger it. And like I said that night that Tyler

(37:51):
had that ar pointed on it. Just think about this
vick okay, And in a sense, think about every animal
out in the Kingdom. Anything that sees a truck or
a human coming through, it's a wild animal. They always run.
Even some domesticated dogs will see you and they run.

(38:11):
What type of animal comes through a yard, well led area,
down into the road in front of a vehicle, goes
up a ridge and stops and turns around and looks
yeah and stares at you. You know, that's that's crazy,
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
A dog many.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
It was wanting to stare you. It was exactly dog man.
It was wanting to scare us. There's no other way to,
you know, explain it. And going back to the spiritual
being powers you were saying. It knew that Tyler wasn't
gonna pull the trigger on that gun. It just knew it.
He knew it scared him enough, looked at him, probably
dead in the eyes where he dropped a gun and

(38:55):
just took off. His fight or flight kicked in and
he chose flight and he took off. He didn't even
stay a fight. It still boggles my mind that he
did not pull the trigger that night. And you know,
to be honest, I don't even think a gunshot would
hurt this thing, because even humans, as long as you
don't get shot in like the lung or the heart

(39:17):
or something like that, or in the head. Of course,
we can even handle a bullet. This thing right here.
There ain't no telling how many bullets it could take,
especially if it took a seventy mile an hour impact
from a Ford Mustang. I think that car weighs almost
three thousand pounds, and you know, it took that lick
and just kept on going like it wasn't nothing. And

(39:40):
the way that that car is set up to it's
like a you know, it's kind of a sharp edge vehicle. Well,
one time me and Sam and James were on a
way to work. I was working at Kellogg's this time
we did contracting out there. But anyways, we hit a
deer before and this is kind of nasty, you know,
so cover your ears if you don't want to hear it.

(40:03):
When we hit that deer, vic it exploded. The guts
and blood just covered the whole window. We're doing sixty
mile an hour, right and when we hit this deer,
the guts and poop just covered the whole windshield and
we couldn't even see. And then Sam hits the winchil
wipers and it just smears the blood and everything. You

(40:25):
couldn't see nothing, and he has to roll the window
down and look out the window just to see. And
then the smell of the intestine started coming through the vents,
the air vents, so we had the heat blowing that morning,
and you know it exploded that thing. Would Eebra hit
that night? I know it was a werewolf dog man.
When I hit the dog man that night, Vic, it

(40:48):
took it. It didn't bleed, it didn't do nothing. I mean,
it took the lick and just kept going. And it's
not even like when I hit it, Vic, I didn't
knock it off anywhere. I couldn't see it more like
I said, once I hit it and it was just
lights out. Yeah, I couldn't see a thing. I didn't
see the body no more. You know. It wasn't like
I hit it and it knocked it forward, or I

(41:11):
hit it and I knocked it over to the right.
It's almost like I hit it and it was still
able to keep running as I hit the thing. But
it was crazy how stout date is very very crazy.
That goes back to I was saying, you know it
could take a bullet for sure. So now I don't
understand why or what type of animals that night turned

(41:32):
around and looked us in the eyes. After it was
it was clearly running from us or trying to get
our attention, you know, it was running wide open and
crossed the road and it just stopped and turned around
and looked at It's like, yeah, here I am. So
I don't know it. That's crazy. It's just a lot
of odd things that don't add up. It's just really unexplainable.

(41:53):
It's just it gives you the wow factor. It's just
it's insane.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yes it is. How sure are you that it didn't
go under the car?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
One hundred percent sure? It didn't go under the car
at all, like I said. And for one, like I said,
I didn't, you know, feel it whenever I bounced over it.
But the way that the bumper, like I said, when
it knocked that bumper down, it knocked it all the
way to the asphalt, So it wasn't able to go
under the vehicle either. So and it didn't rit no

(42:26):
transmission lines or none of the exhaust off the car either.
So like I said, it definitely didn't go under it.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
So it's literally like it disappeared.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Then, Yeah, absolutely absolutely like it. That's why I said,
like when I hit it, it had to have just
kept running, you know what I mean. Like I said,
I didn't see it no more after I hit it.
It was which it was lights out too, you know,
the headlights went out. But I just I didn't see
it no more. But then when I got up to
that church, Vic, like I said, I did hear and

(42:57):
the church ain't far from where I hit it. I'd say, maybe,
I don't know an eighth bull mile. We'll find out
in the pictures because when I'm gonna go to the
exact spot that I hit it at and I'll be
able to really for sure know then. But it's a
it's like maybe an eighth bull mile a half a mile.
And I did hear something in the woods, you know,
like running and making ruckous and I heard all them

(43:19):
dogs barking, But I don't know, it was like it
just disappeared kind of like you said, or it just
kept running. One of the two. But it took that
lick and it kept going, which is just insane, insane
to me. I don't know much that can take a
lick from a car and just keep going.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Well, if it is a spiritual being, it could it
could do that more, it could do You want to
kick yourself for getting out of the car the way
you did and pulling on your bump recover or are
you a key with you doing that? Because I guess
if you wouldn't have done that, you couldn't have driven home.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I hid too. It was a chance of survival. I
mean I had to. I didn't want to. I went
back into the car a couple times during that process,
you know, and that alone had me so terrified. You normally,
you know, when you get out and you have a wreck,
it is a it's a traumatic experience, but not enough
to where you're about. I was literally in tears just

(44:18):
about and was running, jumping back in the car when
I would hear noises, and then jumping back out, and
then made sure that I had my gun ready. I
had my thirty odd six and a twenty two pistol.
But you know, I couldn't even work on my car
vic and get it back going to be road worthy
in a timely manner because I was so terrified about

(44:40):
the noises that I was hearing in the woods and
then when it got quiet and I didn't hear no noise,
then I was even terrified even more. And it goes
back to where it scared me so much when I
was that bumper was on the ground and I'm sitting
there and I'm trying to you know, left on it,
and I wouldn't have it no luck. But and then
I heard something in the sides of the woods that

(45:01):
really freaked me out. And it was like, man, my
adrenaline started pumping and my veins started bulging, and and
then just my heart raking went way up. And I
just grabbed that and bare knuckled that freaking bumper and
just pulled it with all the strength I had and
was able to get it at least about an inch
off the ground to where it wasn't scraping and you know,

(45:22):
catching my car on fire from all the sparks line.
But it's it is a terrifying experience when you do
encounter and every time, and you know, you hear how
I talk about it, it seems like, you know, I
would be okay when I do see it, but every
time I seen it, it just it freaks me out.
I get terrified, and all my planning it goes out

(45:44):
the windows. You know, all this macho stuff. I was
gonna do this so that it all goes out the window.
And I just get terrified and just said, just the rut.
And it is my first instinct.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh, sure, your plans go out the window. Everyone's got
a plan until they get hit.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Ye, that's it for a while.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I'm sure you did. But are you at a place now
where you don't relive those encounters you had or do
you still relive them?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It's like this, Vick, if whenever I'm really talking about it,
like and right now, the same the same dopamine, hip
and everything and the serotonin and all them chemicals in
my brain that ignite, I get that same feeling right now.
It's just thinking about them encounters like it's it's just

(46:36):
all mixture into one, and it just it really gets
me fired up. And yes, I still relive them. And
it's been years, Vick. You'll think it was twenty fourteen
the last time I seen one, And yeah, I mean
that's eleven years ago, and yeah, I still relive it,
and it just it runs back in my mind. I
mean I could still see the moon is real bright,

(46:58):
the landscape has like a blue kind of tent to it,
you know how full moon does. And then I could
just see that blackness of that creature running so fast
and just low to the ground and making strides that
are ten foot in each step. You know. It is
just it's insane, the mount that I relive every time.

(47:20):
It just it all plays right back in my head
and I feel the same feeling that I did that night.
The only thing is different is the scary part about it.
You know, I can not be terrified of it, as
I feel the same feeling. The only part feeling that
don't come back is to being the terrified you know

(47:40):
how scared I was.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, I'm sure to a certain degree comes back.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Also, Yeah, that does, you know, And I want to
come like you right now. It just caught myself kind
of looking over my shoulder. I'm out here in my
car in my front yard and I'm just kind of looking.
It's dark, and like, uh, you know, is that thing
watching me right now? But don't I doubt it's watching
right now, but it could be. You never know. You

(48:05):
never know. And apparently apparently VIC this is a hotspot
for dog men area West Tennessee. I was, you know,
it's like I said, I mentioned it to people around town,
and you know, a few people have their stories of
their own. And apparently Pickwick, Tennessee and Counts Tennessee at
Savannah area and Hardin County is a hotspot for dog

(48:27):
men too. You know, it's a they have a lot
of heills out there, and it's a lot of government
land for one too, and they have a lot of
natural springs and stuff. So that would be a good
spot for him to hide in and to be able
to flourish.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, sure would. It's got all the resources that dog
men could want. So yeah, yeah, it's no wonder that
there would probably be quite a few there.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
And Vic, how do you think that dog men come about?
Do you think that there's some type of spiritual event
that happens, or do they mate or now, how does
a dog man come to exist?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Well, that could be a whole show right there in
and of itself.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
It could, It could.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I wouldn't be surprised if there are several kinds of
dog men. Some dog men might have been created in
government labs in the test tube. Others might be naturally
occurring creatures. Others might be spiritual beings. So maybe there
are several types. I don't know, but that's something all
we can do is guess at I mean, we're never
going to know for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, Now what caught my mind there over my ears?
Should I say, is the government in a test lab?
That could be very much true, very very true. But
and then at the same time, you know where wolf
and dog men's stories go back a long time in
the human history, before we even had medical labs like that,

(49:52):
so maybe some of them are are recreation of the
original because we still don't know as humans how we
even got here either, Like well, that would kind of
be like the same question as well, how was the
first human maid?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Religion put to the side, but you know, and how
was a rabbit maid? You know? And stuff like that.
But it's just a it's a really really something for
me to even wonder upon myself, you know, because I've
experienced this thing, and for all I know is this
thing could pop up again tomorrow, you know. But I
just I'm not out and about like I was in

(50:27):
my younger days, and I just work come home now.
But I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Just you never know, that's right, You never did, yeah,
did you and your buddies get mad and Martindale not
firing at it that night. Or did you take him
seriously when he told you that he thought it was
just a person in a werewolf suit.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, No, we knew he was scared. Nah. I'm glad
he didn't really shoot it, because like I was telling
you before, is I don't really want to kill the
thing either, because it's an endangered species. For one, I
don't want to take out no kind of speed she's
winning them. For two, if it's a spiritual type thing
and he done fire off on it, I don't want
that bad voodoo on me. And for three, I don't

(51:09):
blame him at all for dropping the gun and taking off.
You know, I'll actually find it. That's what I would
have done, you know, especially being the first time you've
seen something if he thought it was somebody in a suit.
For one, if he really did VIC, he wouldn't have
floord it and took off and drove like a maniac

(51:29):
down that gravel road. Like when I say he was
driving like de Ornhard Junior. He had that sucker sideway,
slinging rocks all the way to the tree line up
top and up and down around each curve wide open.
You know, he actually put all of our lives at
risk that night by driving crazy. And you know, I
think that he just didn't want to believe in some

(51:52):
type of chrest creature. You know, he didn't want to
sound like a looney. You know a lot of people
are like I got you know, the crazies are out
in the full moon. Well, I say, dog man's out
on the full moon and the crazy too. But that's
I don't blame him at all, Vick for not shooting it,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Well, subconsciously, I think he knew what it was and
that's why he drew the way he did. Yeah, yep,
when you drove five miles down the road that night,
after you and your buddy saw it, how sure are
you that it wasn't a different dog men that you saw.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
My vicary? You know, I've always thought, until I've really
talked to you about it, I thought it was the
same one, because in my mind, there's not many of
these things that exist. But the more research that I've done,
and what I mean research is in the field, not
just you know, looking up stuff or reading a book somewhere,

(52:48):
there might be multiple dog men around, but that one
that's in Roger Springs area. I still think that it
was the same one. And that thing was running because
like I said, I've seen its speed that night when
I hit it in the GT. So it might could
have if it took a direct straight path through the woods,

(53:09):
it might could have got there and posted up in
that tree line like that. And the way that it
kind of you know, it had its fist on the
ground and its face was just you know, straight forward.
It didn't you know, watch us when we went by,
like with its head turning. It's almost like that thing
it's eyes were able to look over to the right

(53:33):
and just watch us go past on the left, and
it just stayed perfectly still to get that scary effect,
you know what I mean, Like it it lets you
see just enough but not it's showing some of his cards,
but it ain't showing you the whole deck. And by
posting up there, that was kind of just scary in

(53:53):
its own the way that it wouldn't moving, you know
what I mean. You got something sitting there in a
tree line and a vehicle coming by and it's just
standing still with his face turned straight ahead. You know,
that was just kind of creepy. I think that was
one of his tactics, to trying to scare me or
scare everybody, not just me, scare everybody in the trucks.
I do. I think it was the same one, But

(54:16):
in a sense, I think there's more than one out here.
There's gotta be. There's gotta be, and it might be
like a wolf pack. How wolf packs, you know, they
stay in a certain area. The encounters that I've heard
about around here, I've kind of mapped them out, and
it's like it has different territories, you know. I kind

(54:37):
of believe that we'll have one that's down in the
HATCHI bottom, and the one that was seen in a
wolf pend and the one that's seen in Roger Springs.
I think that's three different packs. I really do.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Well, you might be right about that, but I have
doubts about them hanging out in numbers like that on
a regular basis. And that's because if you think about
their daily CLOrk requirements, it's bad enough for them to
try to feed themselves. Just having one dog man in
an area for any appreciable amount of time, it's gonna
blow through the resources in that area in no time.

(55:10):
But if you have more than one, they're gonna just
decimate the resources in a big area in a very
short time. So I'm convinced for that reason that if
they are just flesh and blood creatures, they're gonna live alone.
They might send together occasionally, but yeah, not with any regularity.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah. When I say pack, I meant like that one
dog man's territories, you know what I'm saying, Like there's
three different it's gotta be three different ones maybe, but
like I said, like you're telling Matt, they they're not
grouped up into a bunch. It's one and it has
its own designated territory.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Oh I see, Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I kind of misspoke when I said in a pack,
I meant, like, you know, I was saying, like a
wolf pack in a kind of like a reference how
they got their certain area. But the dog man is
in a singular one has like eat east side of Middleton,
and then you got the west side of Middleton, and
then just southeast you'll have a hatchy bottom, you know,

(56:10):
and them are you know, that's probably about a fifty
mile radius area of what I'm talking about, and in
them areas, like I said, that's it also too. You
have the river like you have the Hatchie River that
runs through that area too as well, and then you
have canals that branch off of that, and then you

(56:30):
also have little creeks that branch off, and they all
branch off. It's kind of like a if you've ever
seen like a heart laid out on an operating table
and the vessels had it all pumps blood to the heart.
That's kind of like the Hatchie River is around here.
You have all these creeks, the creeks running to the canals,
then the canals running to the Hatchie River, and in

(56:53):
them areas you have all them resources for water because
I think everything has to have water to survive.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Oh definitely. And of course all of your theories about
those resources, yeah you might be spot on. But if
they are spiritual beings, which yeah, there's a strong possibility
on that. Yeah, that goes right out the window. That
does it, Sure does, it does, And that might be
why there wasn't no blood that night. Yeah, that would

(57:21):
explain it, It really would. It would explain a lot
of things. Yeah, you're obviously interested in dogmen mark now
that you have those encounters, But what about Sam, does
he have any interest in them? I know he's terrified
of them, but does he have any interest in them
or does he try to avoid thinking about them at
all costs.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
He tries to avoid thinking about it at all cost
always has due. Yeah, he's terrified of it, Like he
didn't even like it when we would bring it up
when it was a full moon, or even if we
didn't have to be a full Movic and Sam, if
we talked about all I'd have to say, is it
the thing? I wouldn't have to say the word were

(57:59):
wolf and he would just tremble. Now, he's a funny
type of comedian type of guy too, like he'll make jokes,
but when it comes to talking about the werewolf now
he calls it a werewolf, not a dog man. But
he's terrified. He avoids any type of interaction or conversation
about it. It just it shivers into the bone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Well, given your experiences, when I say yours, I'm talking
about you, Sim's Martin dial and all of your buddies.
It seems like when you've talked about it that has
spurred on more encounters. So I can understand seehim feeling
that way. I can understand that totally.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And you know, he was younger too when he had
that first experience as well too, So if it might
have traumatized him as a child, you know, and that
child who had trumly kind of you know it instilled
into his brain.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Yes, it's bad enough to have an encounter when you're
an adult, but when you're as young as he was
and you have an encounter like that, that really traumatizes you. Yeah,
that's just it's tough, it really is. Speaking of him,
how's he doing now? Can he function properly without too
much trouble? I know he's still terrified to these guys.
But how's he doing?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Oh? Yeah, he's doing good.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
He he's actually forming at a company it's SBI Works
out of Kelloggs. It's a kind of a contracted company
for Kelloggs. And he actually runs a group of guys.
He has about I say six to ten guys as
he's supervising on a daily and then he also does
work for the city of Middleton as well. So and

(59:36):
you know, he does a has a YouTube channel it's
Sam Moore Thinks Something Sam Moore three eighteen or something.
But he does gun videos on YouTube. You ever want
to check him out and see him on there. And
he does good. You know, he has two kids and
a wife and he functions good. And he moved out
of the trailer too. He's kind of a nice house now.

(59:58):
He's just put in a swimming pool this summer. So
and then it built a pond behind his house as well.
So he's thriving, he is, he's thriving.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Well, yeah, it sounds like he is. That's great. When
you had your last encounter at that plantation, you mentioned
the full moon to your girlfriend that you had back then,
but you also said that when you told her about
your encounters, she rolled her eyes. Did she not seem
to believe you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
She didn't want to believe that there's a were wolf,
you know what I mean, just the thought and a
were wolf, just saying that word, it just it kind
of it's so unbelievable. You just you don't believe in
it until you see it, you know. So, yeah, that's
exactly the type of reaction that I got, Like it's
a full moon. But whenever I ran back up in

(01:00:50):
the house and see that she's seen how scared I
was and the dogs, she was scared then too, and
she knew I seen something, but she don't know what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah, when you saw your face, I bit, they did
get the message.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Chrus. Yeah, I mean, and like I said, I came
in the house that I locked it down. I mean,
and I even locked my bedroom door, you know, even
locked the bedroom door. But like I said, I peeped
out of that window and it was gone, thankfully. So
but in a way, Vic, I wish it would have
stayed around enough where she could have looked out the

(01:01:24):
window and seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
But I said, some people are like, it's hard for
them to believe it. It is, and I understand it
because I was the same way. You know, before I
actually witnessed myself, Vick, I wouldn't you know. I'm like,
what what were you smoking? You had some good weed
that day or something? You know, Like you guys, you're
seeing stuff. But it's it's reality. These people that have

(01:01:46):
these experiences big, they are seeing something. It's not a
figment of their imagination and it and it's terrifying. It
is very terrifying. Like that woman at the exon she
said that thing was the devil. It was this pure evil,
just the look of it, and the vibe that it
was putting off was just just like the evil vibe.

(01:02:09):
And then the fact she said that that thing was
charred and looked like it had been in a fire.
That's just kind of interesting to me. The way she
described that. She described it as in the body of
the thing she's seen with the dog men that she's
seen looked like it had been in a fire, was
just charred up, you know. And most of all my cases,

(01:02:30):
it was a full moon, and I didn't get that
visual effect of the fire, you know, like it been
burned in a fire. But that goes back to maybe
you're talking about like a spiritual thing and how they
come about. I just I wonder what that why it
is like that dark color, you know, like a charred look.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Yeah, it does make you wonder about a lot of things,
it really does. The questions never end when it comes
to these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
And that charred look. It's it sounds really really familiar.
That night that I'm talking about, I hid it. You know,
it was running fast, but that is a good description
of it. It looks like it stepped right of a fire.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yeah, I can only imagine when you walked out front
that night and turned to the left and saw it.
What was it doing with its hands?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
It was just standing like standing real, real tall bit
and it was motionless and it was just staring like
it was staring a hole through me. I mean, I mean,
it was not moving its hands. It was just like
kind of let me just try to explain this, okay.
So its hands were up, but its elbows were pointing

(01:03:42):
east and west and it was facing towards the south.
So you have its elbows or east and west, and
its hands are just balled up kind of like intil
like a claw like look, you know, like kind of
curled like a claw. And its eyes like still were
just staring at me. But the eyes didn't seem like
they were straight ahead. It kind of looked like they

(01:04:05):
were poking kind of out the side of its skull,
like not like how a regular dog's eyes is real
close together. The gap between each eyeball was just like massive,
And like I said, it was just standing up, and
it's where it's hind legs and its joints were on
its legs like it was just each every bone was

(01:04:29):
protruding like they just sticking out real thick and it
was just staring at me, just looking and it had
its like arms set to the side like I said,
east and west for each elbow and facing towards the
south at me. And it just stared at me and
did not move an inch. I mean not a bit.
I couldn't even tell if it was breathing or not.

(01:04:51):
It was just staring at me. And apparently the dogs
didn't have no effect on it either, And that just
that just makes me, I wonder, is like when my
dogs are barking, most animals around there would have took
off run and whatever. This was dog man. I know
it was dog man, but you know this thing was
just staring at me. And it was placed right beyond

(01:05:15):
where the light is from the front porch is lighting
up the yard. It's standing right there in the darkness,
just looking at me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
They know how to push our buttons, they really do. Yeah, yeah,
their masters at it. What it's about. Time for us
to get out of you're mark. But before we do,
do you have any closing comments you want to put
out there for us?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
You know I do. I'd have a couple, you know,
if anybody sees them from here on that. Let's just
make a pack. Let's try to get a picture of them.
I just I would love to learn more about this thing.
And it's like I said, just if you see one,
try not to get scared and run to see if
you can get up your good picture of it. And

(01:05:57):
then they then don't go out looking at first something
and you might see something you don't want to say too.
Be careful what you wish for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
That's really good advice, it always is. Well, Mark, I
can't thank you enough for coming back on to answer
all these questions. I really do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I appreciate you taking the time to ask or I
enjoy talking with you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Well, it's been fun talking with you too. I just
hate the fact you have to go through those experiences,
but you know we can't go back and change that. Well,
having said all that, thanks again so much for your
time and hope you have a green night.