The Monster That Is Not Meant to Exist - Dogman Encounters Episode 612

On Episode 611, tonight’s guest, Daisy, told us about the plethora of Dogman encounters and paranormal experiences she’s had at the ancient farm where she lives. Her farm is in the U.K, and it’s surrounded by ancient woodlands and fields. On Episode 611, she had so many experiences to share with us, I didn’t have time to ask her the laundry list of questions I had for her. Luckily, she’s agreed to come back and answer my questions on tonight’s show. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to her do that.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
At a.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Book.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
If you'd like to be able to listen to the
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that's an option. To find out how, please go to
Dogmanencounters dot com forward slash podcast. If you listened to
last week's show, you heard our guest Daisy come on
and talk about the multitude of dogman encounters that she's

(01:48):
had on her farm in the UK. Well, she's had
so many experiences that I didn't have time to ask
any questions in that show, so luckily she's agreed to
come back to do that Q and A. Now, so
what we're going to do? Having said that, Daisy, thanks
so much for coming back.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hi, you're welcome. Vic. It's been very interesting, and thank
you everybody for the comments. They were very, very interesting
and very kind. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It gives me that you were so surprised by how
positive the comments were the feedback for your first show,
But didn't surprise me at all because, like I told you,
you knocked it out of the park. You did an
amazing job.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's lovely, Thank you, thank you. Well, it's just my
life is how I've lived it, and it's the things
that I've happened here, and it's good to share it
with other people that are either interested in it or
have had their own encounters, because everybody reacts as individuals

(02:57):
to it. And I mean, I'm lucky with mine counter
but some people have been absolutely terrified.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Some have been terrified, and for good reason. But yeah,
you did live it. You lived all these experiences. But
the way you related those experiences it was masterful. How
you did it. That's why the people were so taken
by you. You did an amazing job. But having said that, Daisy,
for anyone who missed that show, please give us a

(03:24):
quick flyover of your experiences and the situation you found
yourself in.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right. Okay, So I live on a very ancient farm,
just me and my dad and obviously the cattle and
animals and the dogs who the dogs are our children.
Basically I was born here. I was born in the
cittamum in front of the fire, and just had an

(03:52):
absolutely wonderful, very very old fashioned childhood here playing out
on the farm, even to the point we used to
go out and ride the sheep. At that point we
weren't allowed to have ponies, so we had sheep and
pet sheep and calves and just incredible fun. Incredible fun

(04:14):
growing up around animals and playing hiding and seek and
climbing trees, throwing damsons at each other and fishing and
all things that kids, I believe now should still be doing.
Sadly they don't get the chance now. But yes, we were,

(04:36):
we would. We would be outside until it was dark,
and you know, mum, Mum roughly knew where we were
and we were up in the woods or in the fields,
and she had no no worries at all, absolutely no
what was at that time, But in that way, yes,

(04:56):
she's wonderfully. I have have two dogs with me. At
one point we had six dogs here. I have a horse,
and we've still got cattle on the farm. The sheep
have now gone and a lot of it is arable. Sadly,
a lot of the dairy farms are closing down, and
I think that ours won't be long behind. But we

(05:19):
will still keep beef cattle here. Yes, yes, I first
saw my first dog man encounter was roughly twenty years ago.
He was very small then, about my height or just
a bit taller than me, and I at the time
thought he was young. But now, after having experiences, I

(05:42):
believe that he's been here all the time, and maybe
he can change shape as or change his size rather
as he as he shows myself to me. Maybe that's
the way to describe it. But then I saw him

(06:03):
last year May twenty seven, and now he's absolutely massive, huge.
I saw him come out from a woodland on the
right hand side of me. He crossed a track in
front of me, and just for a few seconds, I
was absolutely terrified because he's just huge. He must stand

(06:29):
six foot at the shoulder. Now he was on all fours.
He didn't at that point stand up. He looked me
in the eyes and he did mine speak to me.
He told me not to fear him. He told me
his name, which is between me and him. It's very private,
and he said some other stuff to me, which again

(06:51):
I keep driving out of my respect for him. And
then later on he came back in the woods behind me,
and I say, would not. They were more like cracks
on trees, really loud, one of which was only six
foot away from me, and I didn't even see him.

(07:13):
I've had him walk up to me at night times
when I'm out doing my horse, and that was very
scary because I don't actually I can't still work out
to this, Dave. It's more scary seeing something like that
or not seeing it and knowing that it is walking
straight up to you, straight up to your face. He did,

(07:35):
and I was so scared. I stepped back so fast
I nearly fell over. And I could literally feel his energy.
I could feel him right in front of me. I
was literally waiting for him to huff or snort or
something in my face, and absolutely nothing. I saw nothing.
So I do believe. I have come to believe, after

(07:59):
lots of different experiences with him, when he could have
so easily hurt me, or my dogs, or my animals,
or my horse who has been involved in this, that
he he's not going to hurt me. He's a form
of guardian for this ancient place that I love as
much as he does. And I feel that he knows that,

(08:22):
he must know that I was born here. He's seeing
me growing up playing and in the rivers and the streams,
and growing up with puppies and then losing them as
old dogs. He's see me go through all that, and
he's become, I believe, a form of a guardian, a

(08:43):
woodland guardian, and for me, whenever I'm up the woods.
Now I always I'll talk to him out loud, and
I will talk to him by his name, and I
will thank him. I will thank him for keeping me
and my dogs safe again. He could have so easily
hurt me. He's massive. If he stood up right now,

(09:06):
he would be ten foot at least ten foot, if
not higher. And as I said in the last interview,
I believe he didn't stand up in the second account
because he knew that I couldn't have coped with that.
It doesn't matter. If something that size says, do not
fear me, You're going to fear it. If it stands

(09:28):
up and is that tool you My heart wouldn't have
coped with it. I think I would have just passed out.
But he hasn't hurt me, It hasn't hurt any of
my animals. In fact, I believe that he's come to
look after me from something else. I don't know if

(09:49):
that's another dog man. I suspect it is. I have
had two encounters with a black one, now not you know,
not one hundred percent clear encounters. I've seen her. She walked.
I say her, because she did have what looked like rest,

(10:11):
not like humans. But she did look like she had
ress and she's very tall and slim. Jet black, absolutely
jet black. She literally walked past our Cittamon window one
evening when me and my dad were sitting in doors
watching Telly. And yes, and I believe I'm starting to

(10:33):
believe that, I don't know, maybe is she a little
bit jealous because of the respect that me and the
other one have for each other. Is that I don't
know if that's the right way of describing it, but
I believe that he looks after me from either her

(10:54):
or something else. I don't know. I don't know, but
it's one of those Time will tells and I will
learn as this goes on. My mum now she had
two encounters, one of which I spoken of in the
last interview, and so Mum had two. I've had two

(11:18):
with him and two with the female. Maybe that's it.
Maybe I never see him again. And I don't know
how I feel about that, because it's an incredible experience
to see something like that. But on the other hand,
as I explained earlier, that I grew up seeing spirits,

(11:39):
so spirits do not scare me at all, but see
it to see something like this that, as I described
earlier is the ultimate monster, the monster that is not
meant to exist. And then you you cannot help but
think what is out there? You know, you know, something

(11:59):
that big could be walking beside you and you haven't
got a clue until it chooses to show itself. It's
just incredible, absolutely absolute, absolutely amazing. It has changed my life.
It has changed my life completely, really has. I mean,

(12:26):
it's a difficult thing trying to think. Since I saw him, obviously,
I've done research and explored different ideas, and I've always
been very spiritual anyway, because of all the things that
I've seen and seeing him has opened up so many
other ideas to me too, or so many different lines

(12:46):
to go down. It's been a very interesting, a very
interesting life it that way, very interesting. And he keeps
me on my toes, Yeah, kicks me on my toes.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, I'm sure it does. Your life is anything but boring,
never a dull moment. It sounds like if you've had
a Dogman encounter, I would like to speak with me
about it, whether I'm private or on the show. Please
go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. You
alluded to the idea of the possibility that the female

(13:23):
just might be jealous of how you interact with the male,
the huge male. Someone left a comment touching on that
they thought that might have been what was going on,
and I sure hope that's not the case. That wouldn't
be good.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, put it this way, he's shown himself to me
in his massive form, and I do believe, hand on heart,
he didn't stand up on purpose because he knew how
terrifider would have been. So if he thinks that way
about me, I can't see it being him that has

(13:58):
thrown thats which I didn't explain, throwing that fear on
me so often when I'm outside at night in my Horks,
late at night, and I won't have heard anything or
seen anything. But it's, like I explained, someone putting their
hand in their pocket and just grabbing a big handful
of fear and throwing it haw hard at you and

(14:21):
it hits you really hard. I can't see him doing
that to me. The reason he would do that to
me is to maybe if there's something else out there.
I thought about this, if there was something else out
there that he is protecting me from, maybe he puts
that fear on me so that I go indoors. I
go indoors and lock myself and the dogs in and

(14:43):
then we are safe, or hopefully safe. I think that
is the only reason why he would do that to me.
Otherwise it's her. It must be her, you know. I've
looked at that several I've turned it inside out, and
I think that's the only way it can be. But
obviously people might have other ideas, People with other experiences

(15:06):
might have different ideas. And I'm really I'm really grateful
for all the comments that you know, people put up,
because that's part of the reason of doing this is
because I, like I said, I can learn from this
and other people will learn as well. Oh, I hope
that explains.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, that was a great job of explaining, so that
you know you said that. Now, he seems to be
about six feet tall at the shoulder on all fours well,
as long as their torsos are normally can double their
height on all fours and get a pretty close guess
as to how tall they are bipedally. So yeah, more
than likely he's probably tickling the twelve foot tall mark,

(15:48):
which that's almost the height of a freeway underpass.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Honestly, it just seems impossible to have something that's massive
that is walking around in the English countryside, let alone
the UK where your forests are bigger. You know, we
have got mountains here, some of our mountain ranges are
pretty big, but obviously nothing like what you have. And

(16:15):
to think that there is something that huge walking around
and people will have no idea until, like me, you've
seen it, and he could. You know, you could be
out walking your dog and just walk straight past and
have absolutely no idea, absolutely no idea, which is again

(16:37):
why you know he's not I know people have bad encounters,
but this has been good and it's certainly been an
eye opener. And I honestly believe he's a guardian of
the woodlands and the land here. And if that's the case,
he's got no reason to want her to any one
other than maybe to protect his woodland or maybe to

(16:59):
protect me my dogs. I don't know, but I think
the only reason he would have to really scarce someone
out of the woodlands is if he's protecting his homeland. Basically,
I really do believe that.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, if he is a guardian, I don't think security
is much of a problem for him. He sounds like
a specimen. How old is your farm? Deasy?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
It was in the Doomsday Book, so the going back
you're talking about the tenth century. Now a lot of
the house is sixteenth century and a lot of the
old the outbuildings are older than that, so it is
very old. It's an incredible place. There used to be
an old water mill here, which the steps and that

(17:50):
are still there in the in the river for that,
and that's that's an amazing place to go up. When
we were kids, we're always building raths and trying to
get out onto the steps and I now I still
got fishing down there. And yes, beautiful, stunning, absolutely stunning.
I can lay in bed and listen to that river.

(18:11):
It's just it's just incredible.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'd love to be able to do that, but I can't.
I'd wind up peeing the bed. So oh that takes
that off the table for me. Yeah, that wouldn't be good.
It sounds like, yeah, that farm is really old, which
calls to question. Have you ever turned up anything that
makes you think that any kind of rituals or anything

(18:37):
else might have been done there on the farm that
might increase the likelihood of spiritual beings coming to the farm.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, I have no, I haven't I have been. I've
done some dowsing. I learned to dows as a kid,
and i've you know, I'm I'm not professional nowhere near
if anyone can be. But I can find drains and
underground springs and things. I've doused this area, and there

(19:06):
are lay lines here, and I believe that this farm
might be smack on where they cross over, so that
would be a big energy point. Now there are around
the village there are places that they have found where

(19:28):
they were not Roman, older than Roman, but they've found
villas and places and stone circles and things that are
very very old. Obviously. The church that is in the
wood very close to our farm is eleventh century, and

(19:48):
I did some research on that. They said before that
church was there, there was an old wooden church. Before
that there was a Roman temple, and then before that
there was a place of Druid worship. So there is actually,
although there's nothing visible, there has been in the past

(20:09):
a lot going on around here. The church was meant
to have been closed for one hundred years because it
was said to have been used for un Christian practices,
and that is basically smack bang in the middle of
these woods. Well, yeah, so there, Like I said, although

(20:29):
there's nothing visible, I have found in the woods some
old earthworks which I want to explore and try and
find out more about that. But I say, there is
nothing really above ground visible now to seem. Oh my
niece who basically believed she saw something similar to me

(20:50):
a fortnight ago. She was out walking and she found
the tree, which is probably probably nothing to do with this,
but it's probably more pagan related. She said, people have
been hanging ribbons and shells and things in there, and
she found the deer lake hanging up in there the
other day. And and think so whether that is anybody

(21:12):
that has also seen him, and maybe that's their own
little fanking station, you know, without actually being brave enough
to ask people, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Hmmm. When you mentioned that old church in the woods
there that was closed so long ago because Unchristian practices
were being performed there, it really does call on the question,
do you think it's a possibility that what you've been
dealing with are demonic beings?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's very very possible. Yes, it is possible. It's something
that I've tried to find out more about. I don't
really know now who I could go to to, you know,
to go back as far as that, it must be
in well, obviously I found that out, so it's in

(22:00):
the church records. It's going back further than that.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't like the sound of that at all. How
far is that church from your house into the woods.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
In a straight line, it's probably a mile away. No,
it's probably actually, do you know, it's probably not even
a mile away. It's probably just over about half a
mile in a straight line. M So it's not that
far close between between that and us. There's lots of

(22:33):
underground strings, which I do believe can carry a lot
of energy as well, So there is there's a lot.
There's a lot going on here that energy wise, and
probably a lot of the reason why we have all

(22:53):
all myself, my brothers and sisters, parents, we all seined
spirits and say, we've all had orbs. I see a
lot of I see mainly red orbs, and they're the
ones that I don't like, because things have always happened
after I see the red orbs, and they are actually,

(23:14):
if I'm thinking now, I'm thinking about it, they are
very close to the church. Between us and the church
my dad. As I said before, my dad has mainly
blue orbs. Some of them are absolutely massive. As I
said before, have actually followed him home in his tractor,
and to bless his soul, we had a friend until

(23:35):
very recently passed away who left work one evening about
six o'clock and had a blue orb following him nearly
all the way home in his car. He actually stopped,
got out and looked, and he said the orb went
and then came back again and followed him the mess
the way home. So there's obviously a lot of different
energies going on here.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, I'd say so. And what you told us about
the church that does explain all those strange spiritual phenomena
you've been experiencing over the years. It really does.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yes, I have an old campervan a K and I
go away all over the UK in that van, just
me and my dog, loads of books and art stuff.
Love it. But I camped overnight in a field very
close and very very close to that church and all
the places I've been, that is the only place, and

(24:32):
bear in mind I'm half a mile away from home.
That is the only place I've ever felt unsafe in.
It was I really did feel unsafe there.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, where there's smoke, there's normally fire. There must be
something to that. Let's switch gears here and talk about
those wood structures you found. Have you ever heard about
any sasquatch being seen in your area?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, I haven't, nothing at all. But I have seen
two other I know this sounds weird, but I've seen
two other creatures that I almost think they might be
sads squatches. I think when I said two, I think

(25:18):
it might be the same one. It's quite small, it's
about five and a half at all. It's upright again,
and it's all over pale gray and quite fluffy. In fact,
the first time I saw it it was like a
slim up right teddy bear. And I saw it after

(25:40):
the cattle had been very upset and my dad was
out and I had hurt my back, so I didn't
want to go down there unless the cattle, unless I
was really worried about them. The cattle were hollowing, and
I thought, well, one might be a bought in its calf.
So in the end of grabbing one of the dogs
and went down there, and this huge, big red orb

(26:01):
rose up out of the bushes. Probably went about six
foot up and it was massive, biggest orb I've ever seen,
and it exploded into like red and orange, and even
in the daylight it was almost blinding. Just after that,
this pale gray creature just literally glided through the gap

(26:24):
in the bramble bushes, or past the gap, and it
was really quite I mean, anybody would be say that's eerie,
that sounds weird, but it just felt completely wrong. It
felt completely wrong. And anyway, I managed to go uphill

(26:45):
and look down on the cattle. They were still hollering
and milling around in a clump, very upset, and I
came home and later that evening I saw that same
gray creature literally glide past my eye. Have a glass
door into the back guard, and glide past that. And
I'm going into detail on this because if there is

(27:07):
a sasquatch here, then I think that was it. But
what relation it was to do with the big red
or I don't know. I don't know, And I've had
other people say to me that's what Maybe it's what
the dog man looks after me from. But on the
other hand, I think he looks after me from the
black one. So there's so much going on here. There's

(27:31):
so much going on.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Here, he might be trying to protect you from both.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
M Yeah, possibly that was until you know that I
saw the gray, the Grays I call them, the first time.
It was probably around August this year, and that was
the first time i'd seen them, so up until then,
I really just thought it was him and her, the
black one. But now there's these other two grave things.

(27:58):
I think it's probably the same grain one great one
that I've seen twice. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
You've got a lot of strange things going on around there, Dasy.
I'll tell you I do.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I do like you say. I believe it's to do
with the church and the lay line. I'm absolutely positive
that there is a lay line that crosses straight over
two lay lines here right on the farm and the
energy that brings in. It's something that I want to
explore and do more research on. When I'm one hundred

(28:31):
percent positive I'm right with my doubts in then I
will know exactly where I am with that that idea.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Your farm definitely seems to be a hotspot for pure
normal activity, and normally you can point to one thing
and say that's probably why, But in your case, there
are several reasons why that might be happening, So all
we can do is guess. Now, you have quite a
few experiences that involved seem to be malevolent beings over
the years. I'm wondering, though, how sure are you that

(29:02):
he wasn't responsible for those negative experiences.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm not not, really, I'm not. I can't say hand
on heart that he's not. If it is him, then,
oh that's difficult. I was going to say, if it
is him or was him, then again, I would believe
that he's driving me indoors to keep me safe. But

(29:27):
then with that last of energy that came through my bedroom,
that was the most It was honestly the most terrifying
thing I've ever encountered. It was probably not as much
as him, if he'd actually stood up that time, but

(29:47):
it was like it was like a shock wave. If
you didn't hear the first one. It was this massive, great,
big shockwave that went through my bedroom and actually knocked
my owl off his perch like a hand, like a
big bloker's hand, and pushed my dog over. He was
sitting up, and he pushed him over on to his side,
and then it ripped down some wind chimes, outside my

(30:09):
bridge and window, so I can't if that had been him,
that would have meant he was on purposely scaring me,
and and he did a big job, a really good job.
But probably more if it is one of those, than

(30:31):
probably more likely to be the black one. But with
everything else that has happened here all my life, the
different energies and the different spirits that all my family
have seen, honestly, if it could have been anything, it

(30:54):
could have been any of them. We have a lady.
We have a lady's spirit here, which we've now I'm
not gonna name her because lots of the village know
and if they hear it, they know exactly where I am.
But she's lovely, she's been with us all her life.
She plays tricks on us, and all us kids have
grown up talking about all the silly things she's done

(31:17):
with us, and she's like part of the family. But
there is we've also been a very large man here
who's not very nice, not very nice at all. So
it's very very possible. But whatever reason he aimed that
at me, but I'm waffling, and I just I just

(31:37):
I really don't know on that one. It's very difficult
very difficult. If it was him, I do believe he
was doing it for reason to keep me in, but
I was already in, So I don't think it was him.
I don't think it was him.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Really well, you just might be right. It might not
be him. Now I've got opinions on this, but I
want to ask you. There are several comments listeners left
that touched on the possibility that he is a demonic
entity that's simply grooming you in some way. What are
your thoughts on there?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yes, I did, It did cross my mind. Someone put
up trickster trickster, and actually a friend of mine very
recently said the same thing. So you're being tricked, You're
being you know, he's he's falling you. Basically, I don't.

(32:31):
I don't feel that. Yes, it's a really difficult thing.
I don't feel that. I Oh, maybe that's me not
wanting to feel that because because I'm living it, and
because that's too that is too scary to think that,
because if that is the case, then one day he
will turn and do something. But I don't honestly feel that.

(32:56):
My gut feeling is that, my gut feeling is he's
actually looking after me from something else. If he is
full of me, then he's very very clever, And maybe
I just haven't had enough. I've had a lot of experience,
but maybe the wrong experience is to tell the difference.

(33:18):
But I do, I do feel that the large male,
I don't honestly do feel with him that he's some
type of guardian and that there's something else going on here. Yeah,
I really do.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
What I really wonder about with all this is if
he was grooming you for a fall, why do that?
If his intent is to take you down to harm
you somehow, he's had all these opportunities to do it,
If that's what he wanted, why hasn't he done that
by now?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I know, well, I think you know, I'm sixty now,
and if he's been walking the woodlands, well, I believe
he's been here before, He's had multiple times that he
wouldn't wait sixty years to hurt me. You know, he wouldn't.
Though I suppose that the time is you know, he's

(34:15):
here forever, isn't he So time isn't a limit to him.
But I believe if he was going to hurt me
or my animals, he would have done it by now.
There's something else going on here. I'm positive there's something
else going on, and he looks after me.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, sounds like you just might be right about that.
When you had your first encounter with him about twenty
years ago, you said that he seemed to be surprised
to see. Uh, wouldn't he stood up onto his back
legs to run away? How would you describe that motion
he used to stand up like that? Did it look
like he did a hard push up or was it
some other kind of motion.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
It was very, very quick, It was very fluid, very graceful.
I didn't hear, you know, since then, I've heard people
say you can hear their joints popping and things. I
didn't hear any of that. Nothing. It was just it
would be impossible to picture. But if you're just in
picture pictured your your pet dog just standing up and

(35:16):
doing that, it was. They wouldn't be graceful because they're
not designed to do it, obviously, but it was. It
was just one very fluid motion, like like a very
I don't think a person could do that actually in
without stumbling or or just looking awkward for a second.

(35:37):
It was just very graceful, just straight up and span round.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I don't know how you do it. You have so
many things going on there, Daisy, it makes you wonder
what's next, It really does. You're unable to go out
after dark without a worry anymore. Do you think there's
ever going to come a time where you're able to
head out after dark and actually enjoy yourself. I mean,
you're far and sounds so beautiful. It really would be
a shame if you could do that. But on the

(36:04):
other hand, I do understand why you have these concerns
when you think about everything that's gone on.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's very difficult because obviously both times I've seen him
were beautiful sunny days, so but things have happened at night,
especially the winter of twenty three, which I was saying
about last time, and it's because of the build up
of all of those that have happened after dark, and

(36:35):
they have been really really scary, really really nasty. And
as I've said to you before, I loved to be
out the woods at nighttime on my own, just me
and a dog, or sitting in the middle of the field,
open field, just looking at the stars. And I would
do it for hours, to just sit there and just
look at the stars. And now I can. I'm just

(37:01):
about getting brave enough to I have to go and
see my pulse. He's not far away from the house,
so at ten o'clock I have to go and check
him whatever. And I brought myself a really powerful torch,
which has given me a bit more confidence, which is silly,
and I keep telling myself it's silly, because honestly, that

(37:22):
talk is not going to save me if anything does happen,
it's just the fact that I can see it, hopefully,
but I don't. I've been up the fields recently. It's
dark here now at how past four it's pitch black Bay,
and I've been up the fields sort of halff and

(37:43):
trying to keep myself up there for longer, trying to
build up the confidence. But I just can't. I can't.
And I'll get home onto the farm and obviously there's
a couple of little lights, you know, got the house
like wom but any lamps outside thing. And I will

(38:04):
wander around, just trying to force myself to stay out there,
trying to bring back that love of being out there.
The love hasn't gone, but I just don't feel I
don't feel safe now often, and it happened a couple
of nights ago. I nothing bad happened, and I didn't
feel the fear, but I was just intently aware that
I was being watched and I got indoors and it

(38:28):
just felt like it just felt like I was still
being watched through maybe through the windows, through the walls,
I don't know, but I could just I was aware
of it. And I say, I didn't get hit by
that fear nothing, but I was just aware of it.
And ah after, Like I explained earlier, I've had him

(38:49):
walk up to me and not been able to see him.
I've seen him, I've said I I've seen him in
his invisible forms. Sounds weird, but that's how I've seen
him three times. And to know that they can do
that and unless you see a movement, they can be

(39:11):
right beside you is a very daunting thing when I'm
out there on my own, and I mean honestly, if
there was someone with you and something happened, it's like
having the confidence in that trchlight, isn't it. Basically if something,
if they decide to do something, they're going to do,
which again goes back to the fact that I believe

(39:33):
he's not going to hurt me because he would have
done so many times before, and I do feel that,
more than anything, he's beside me to look after me
from something else. The answer is, I don't think I
can imagine ever feeling I know, I can't imagine ever
feeling safe again out there at nighttime, which is silly

(39:57):
because I am going up the woods now again. For
I had a year where I didn't go up the
woods because of this, and I forced myself and I've
you know, every time I'm up there, I'm thinking, oh
my god, am I going to see him? And my
dog's okay? But it's my life and I'm trying to
build up that confidence again, but I will never have
it again at nighttime.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well, it goes with us saying I'm so glad you're
able to hit back up into the woods and do
whatever you need to do out there at night again.
It really would be a shame if you could never
do that. I'm still not sure how you feel about this, though, Dazy.
Are you glad you've had all the encounters you've had
with him, or in some way do you wish to
then never happened?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh? Both. I think he's the best way of answering that,
because gosh, that's a difficult one. I would say it's
in a tiny way, I feel blessed that I've seen
him because I know that these But maybe that goes

(41:05):
again back to the fact that I believe he's my
guardian or and a guardian of woodlands. So in that way,
I feel blessed. But the fact that I knew spirits
exist anyway, I've seen so many in different forms. But again,
to see something like him, something so massive, with obviously

(41:28):
these gifts that they have knew were left in absolutely
no doubt all that going to be. There will be
other things that exist. No, Like I said, I grew
up seeing spirits. I've seen all types of spirits, animals,

(41:49):
and I mean I'm a dog talking about dogs and humans.
But to actually see something that looks like him, so
massive and so close, yes, and to have or like
that that that blast that went through my bedroom, To

(42:09):
know that those things happen and there's going to be
more out there, that's that's very daunting. It makes you
feel very small. It does makes you feel very small
and very not not insecure is the wrong word, but
it does just makes you feel teeny.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh, I'm sure it does. He would have to. You
told us that when you see him now, it's almost
like you're seeing a long lost friend. With that said, though,
do you really think you can fully trust him?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
No? I couldn't, not one hundred per No. I couldn't.
And that's another difficult one because like I said, like
I said, I do feel he's a guardian, and I
do talk myself into believing that he's not going to
hurt me, because otherwise, if I go around thinking he's
going to hurt me every five minutes, then I would

(43:05):
have lost my life. I would have lost my free
will to walk the woodlands, which is the fact what
happened to my mum. My mum had two encounters. The
second one left her. She never ever ever went to
the woods again. She would always walk in the fields
in the open where she could see something coming towards her.
If I go around all the time believing that he's

(43:26):
around the corner and he's going to hurt me or
my dogs, I'll lose my life of walking in those woodlands,
and I would really really struggle. Without that, I wouldn't
be myself. So I believe that he's my guarden and
I took myself into it, both of them, but I

(43:50):
couldn't say that I trust him completely with myself or
my dogs. And I don't know if that's just because
obviously since my encounters, I've I've watched showed, you know,
chats like yours and others, and I've heard some really
bad stories and so maybe it's my mind working over time.

(44:11):
Maybe I'm scaring myself. But with something like that, I don't.
You couldn't say one hund that you trust them. You
just can't. A little way. I feel like I've let
him down by saying that. But honestly, with something like that,

(44:33):
it would be like living with a lion, a pet line,
and you know, and making friends with it. It would be
your kitten, but you would never one hundred percent trust
that it's not it's nature's not going to kick in
and it's not going to see you as a stake.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, that wouldn't be good. Like me, You've got strong
beliefs about the afterlife. Have all these encounters that you've
had had any effect on that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
That's difficult? Again, No, not really, only in the fact
that I believe he's been here forever. In fact, I
was saying to someone a while ago, it's almost like
he's older than the land. It's almost like he was
part of the reason this land was made. But I
have had other spirits come back to me and talk

(45:26):
to me and tell me certain things. So I have,
you know, our hundred percent believe that this isn't all
there is. I know there's much much more. And it's
something that certain people I talked to it because you know,

(45:47):
when people lose loved ones and it's just horrendous. It's
just it's awful and it's so sad. But if they
could understand unerstand some of the things that I've been
to old, or if they could see them themselves, it
would help them so much knowing that their loved ones

(46:07):
are still around and that at some point they will
still be back together. They really will.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
When you come to that realization, it does change everything.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Mm hmm. There's so much more I will, yeah, so
much more. I mean, my mom passed five years ago.
She's she's been back to see me twice. Before my
mom passed, my grand came to me and told me
my mum was going to be ill, and she told
me certain things that they're all played out and yeah,

(46:41):
I've seen I've seen a lot. I've had a lot
of spirits come and tell me things and very personal
things that other people wouldn't know. And it's very very comforting,
really is. It's lovely. It's really lovely to know that they, honestly,
they are still around. But as for him, it's really

(47:02):
the length of time that he's been here. But that's
a different thing, really, that's it. That's something else that
requires a lot of thought, but that way, because he's
so different.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, that he is. Do all of your siblings know
about the experiences you've had with that dogged me in?
And if so, how did they respond when you're told them, yes, they.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Do, trying to think they do. They all believe me,
apart from my younger brother who has had not not
experiences with him, but experiences were spirits. But he's you know,
he's been through he's been through an awful lot, and
I think he's shut himself down and he's just trying

(47:48):
to what he calls live a normal life. He doesn't
disbelieve me, but he doesn't believe me either. The others
they all believe me completely. I had one sister who's
we are saying, we've all grown up seeing spirits, but
some of us more so than others. One sister is
just like me, and I told her about the second encounter.

(48:11):
I told her about the first and tend but when
I told her about the second encounter, she looked at
me like, well, I believe you, but I'm not quite
sure it was that extreme. And then I took her
for a walk, probably about a month after the second encounter,
and we were actually on the same track in the
exact spot that I saw him, but I hadn't told

(48:31):
her where it was. And I was walking ahead with
my dog. She was behind me a little way with
her dogs, and she did a half scream and I
turned around, you know, said what was wrong, and she said,
she went, oh, my god, something's just growled at me.
Something's growling at me in my ear. And I knew

(48:51):
what that was, and she knew what it was, and
so she completely believes me now. But he's done that
to me. He's growled at me literally like he's literally
like he's resting or someone has resting his head on
my shoulder. Is that loud? And once it was like
a snarl, And the second times with like these brunchy growls,

(49:13):
which are very scary, very scared, whether that was him
or whether that was her. But either way, I didn't
come to any harm, which is very scared. I didn't
the first time it happened. I didn't go back to
the area of about six months. It scared me so badly. Sorry.
They do believe me, and my dad believes me, and
like I said, he's heard things to back him up

(49:37):
even more, you know, because the others don't live here.
They left home and got married, and but Dad's obviously
here with me, so he's heard more than they have.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
When your sister had that experience, did she run to
tell all of the other siblings about what happened to her?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I think she's told her daughters. She's told her daughters
and maybe my other sister, yes, my other sister, But
I don't know about any anyone else. So it really
scared her. In fact, I'm trying to think, I don't
think she's been up there since with me since then,
and that was well well over a year ago. So yeah, how.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
About your dad? Is he afraid to be alone?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
He doesn't like to be on his own. I wouldn't
say he's particularly afraid, but he doesn't like to be.
He had an experienced years ago. He was actually out
poaching with a friend and he said they heard something
walking towards them through really thick like bram or something,

(50:45):
and so it was really loud. They had a big
torch with them, they couldn't see anything, and he said,
whatever it was, he said, walked straight up to them,
both of them, and absolutely frightened the life out of
his mate. And I think because probably it's had a
bit more experience with spirits, he was scared, but it
didn't terrify him. But he said that they had the

(51:07):
same as what I've had. This whatever it was walked
straight up to them and he said, you could literally
I might be wrong, but I'm sure he said you
could hear something breathing in front of them. And yeah,
and he will still talk about that to this day.
So he's he's he's had quite a few things happen

(51:28):
to himself.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, it sounds like it. You taught us about that
big dog man's ability to cloak when he's done that
around you, do you ever feel any strange sensations.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Not as in not as in sickness. I've often had
it's just like a pressure. It's not like really a headache.
But I've had a pressure in my head or on
my head, almost like almost like someone's pushing your head back.

(52:05):
I've had that, but I haven't had sickness or actual
pain in my head. It's more like it's like a
big thumb on my forehead, just pushing a forehead on
my chin. I've had that on my chin, and that
was quite that was quite forceful, like something just pushing
me back slowly and steadily. I've had that.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Well, that's strange.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Have you heard of that?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Well, no, I've never heard of that. Some people have
reported tingling electricity type sensation, but I've never heard about
that before.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
You've just I have had tingling. I've had like waves
of what I call waves of tingling starts in my
calves and then works its way all the way up.
So I was forgetting that too, said it. But yeah,
I've had that, but no sickness or like that like
some people.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I didn't want to lead you with that question by
asking you about tingling, so yeah, that's why I didn't
bring that up. But yeah, they do all sorts of
strange things.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, it must be a form of energy that they're
given out or I don't know. I mean, the pressure
thing really is just like a big thumb, like I said,
I have on my forehead, on my chin, and it's
a gentle pressure that will actually feel like I'm being
pushed backwards. But the tingling is like huge big waves

(53:36):
of tingles just go straight up for your body. And
I forgot about that too, said it.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, it's got to feel awfully strange. It must, other
than that strange force, that strong force that blew through
your home that one time. Has anything ever happened that
makes you think that he might have come inside?

Speaker 2 (53:58):
No, no, no, I had. It was just a few
years ago, and it might have been him, it might
not have been. I was actually clearing out a bedroom
and this is the one I'm in now, and I
pulled some boxes out from underneath the bed, and I

(54:19):
just became very aware of something behind me. This might
be him, or it might be the spirit of the
man I was talking about earlier, because it literally did fear.
It was very very intense, and it literally felt like
I was just waiting for something behind me to punch

(54:39):
me in the back. It was like that very very
intense so rather than other than that and the force
like I can't I can't say you know whether it
was him or not, but I had I did have that,
and that was that was a horrible sensation, which really
was just like waiting to be punched in the back,

(55:01):
was waiting for that pain, you know, which didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
But not very nice, not very nice at all. You
sure don't frighten easily, Daisy. I've got to give it
to you. If most people had a fourth of the
experiences that you've had on that property, they would have
packed up and gotten out of there. But the fact
you're still there that says everything.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I think. If I hadn't grown up like I did
and the rest of my family having all these encounters
with spirits, then i'd have been absolutely terrified, absolutely terrified.
But it's almost like we grew up being we grew
up accepting all these other things. So he's very extreme,

(55:46):
but he's just another step away from all of that. Really.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, that's a good way to sum it up. It is. Well,
it's about time for us to get out of here.
But before we do, do you have any clothes and
comments you want to share with us?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Oh? No, other than I really do. Again, I'm going
back to it. I do feel that he is. They're
guardians of the woodlands, they really are, and I believe
that the more houses and things that go up, then

(56:23):
maybe the more encounters people will have with these. It's
a bit like the large cats being driven out of
their areas, and people will have more encounters. I just
hope that other people can have encounters like mine because
I've been very, very lucky. I hope I'm correct and

(56:46):
that he is looking after me. I really pray that
that is the case, and I do feel that is
the case. And I'm sure that it hasn't it all
ended yet because this, like I said, twenty twenty three
was awful, really really awful, and certain things have really

(57:06):
happened this year to believe that it's all building up again.
But time will tell on that. I just just go
around doing what I do and trying to keep my
head down from it all. I don't know. I wouldn't
I wouldn't live any other way. I adore this place,

(57:26):
and if he's here with me, then so be it.
The two of us have just got to find a
way of respecting each other and getting along basically, as
long as he doesn't hurt me, my family, or my animals,
then and there's always fine.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I hope he never does do any of those things.
I really do, And I don't know how I could
ever help you, but if I ever can, please let
me know, and I'll be there for you.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Thank you, thank you, I know. And it's been so
it's been so helpful doing this, and as I said before,
reading people's comments, because they're so interesting, and people have
got some amazing ideas and some you know, I can
either help them or they'll help me to try. And

(58:21):
you know, he's here, He's never going to go away.
He's here. I just have to take alum beside him.
So there's nothing basically that anybody could do about that
is here. This is his own He's probably got more
right here than I have. But as long as we
learn to live together relatively comfortably without any one getting hurt,

(58:44):
well that's what matters.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
That's right, that's all that does. Well easy. I can't
thank you enough for coming on to share those experiences
with us. Like I told you before, I really do
appreciate it. And of course I hope you have a
great nights