December 11th 2025

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lot going on today around these parts. The Vancouver white
Caps are involved in a press conference at Vancouver City
Hall at around eleven thirty, so we'll have more official
information just after that. It looks like they're going to
have themselves a stadium on the old Hastings racecourse, rounds

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at the P and E, and we'll know more about capacity,
what the turf's going to be like parking, that sort
of thing. To imagine who's paying for Number one.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's the biggest thing. You want taxpayers money paying for that.
I don't think many people do or is it going
to be.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, they've already paid for the renovation at BC Place,
thank you, plus BC Place itself going back to the
to the early eighties. So a lot going on, boy,
Then White camps have been so busy. You forget that
it was less than a week ago they were playing
in the MLS Cup in Miami and then extending some contracts,
letting go of some players, Axel Schuster Executive the Year

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and Major League Soccer. A lot going on with the
white Caps, and boy gets punctuated today at around eleven
thirty with that press conference at Vancouver City Hall. The
White Kits where.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
They started Rick, you and I went grounds you and
I went to Empire to watch the white Caps and lines.
I can't wait to go back to the pan E.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, I'll go even further back than that. I'll go
back to the old Vancouver Royals professional soccer at Empire Stadium.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Why you cement like turf and the kids laughing?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
We're bringing up history. What's so funny here?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Sports Vancouver history? And this is the problem with young
guys like you and our industry. They don't care about
the seventies and eighties and it pisses me off. Well,
Taylor's was the forties or the fifties? That's even stop it.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's just can you come up with something new?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Like, honestly, I like how you say one of the
items is going to be addressed eleven thirty is the
turf they're going to play on it?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
It took doling Wall to say who's paying for it? No,
that should be the first question, I hope.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, needless to say. I don't go with it?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Is it needless?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah? Boy? I tell you, if the taxpayers have to
buck up, there's going to be hell to pay.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Not happy.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
If that's the case, all right, and then you know
the other question. We'll talk about this more, but the
other question has to be asked, was what's your relationship
like at BC place right now? Be the least ran
out this month? What happens in the interim. Is everything
going to be honkey dory between to go back to
the nineteen forties for a second, between you and PavCo

(03:30):
and having to play at BC Place until the new
facility gets built. If indeed that is the case.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's right, it's all going to take time. They're still
going to need BC plays.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
More on that later. Meanwhile, the Canucks host Buffalo, Yeah tonight.
Are we at a stage and they've lost five of six?
Thirty second overall? If they could be thirty third overall,
they would be. Are we at a stage now where
the game seem meaningless? It's fun to go to a
hockey game. I get all that, to watch these great

(03:59):
athletes do their thing. No matter what you think of
the Caducks, they're in the National Hockey League. Those players
are great athletes. But we're at a stage here where
the off ice news just seems way more important than
what's happening on the ice.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Your bang on. They're in thirty second place and they're
trading maybe possibly soon the best player in franchise history.
That's where all my energy is talking and texting is
about Hughes and a possible trade.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
So a Quinn Hughes trade talk dominating and in the
midst of all this, Quinn Hughes and good on him,
captain of the Van Canducks. He was at a charity
event in Langley yesterday just for the Langley Food Bank. Yeah,
and good for him. And he was questioned by a
Vancouver CTV or reporter if he intends to stay in Vancouver.

(04:49):
We got this clip and here's how Quinn answered.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
I mean, right now, I'm just focused on what I
can control. We're in the middle of a season and
I can't even sign if I wanted to. I can't
re sign until July one, so right now there's nothing
I can do. So I mean, for me, I'm just
trying to, like I said, focus on what I can
control and what I can do, and that's what I've
been trying to do.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Real considerate answer. He's talking to, I believe, a news
reporter and he kind of sums things up and these
sports reporters should know that he can't really do anything,
can't do it right now in terms of signing, but
he explained everything. His mood seems to have changed in
the last week or so since Elliott's story broke about

(05:37):
talks between the Devils and Canucks. Yeah, he seems kind
of upbeat.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Upbeat?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, you're not. I thought that was a great interview. Considerate, Yeah, considerate,
And he didn't get mad or yell at the reporter
for asking that he's got no control The Canucks are
taking calls on Hughes. He's got no trade protection. He
can't do anything. They can move them today, they can
move them tomorrow. He's got no trade protection. And another thing, well, he.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Could be unhappy. Yeah, he's looking happy like he has earlier,
but the last week or so that hasn't been the case.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And for those people ripping the Hughes agents for not
having trade protection, he's not. No no, stop stop stopped.
He's not eligible to have trade protection yet due to
years played in the NHL and due to his age,
he's not eligible. So he's got no trade protection, no
control over the situation. Caducks can trade him in the
next five seconds if they.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Want Meanwhile, Ryan h often goes on this website He's
nott Calm Easy and bookies dot Com. What a name
has come up with betting odds on Quinn Hughes's destination.
Really where he's headed or maybe where maybe that day

(06:51):
he's going to stay put. So Bookies dot Com has
come up with Quinn Hughes destination odds.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Have we got that board here? Oh look at this?
Can you blow it up here? Like you's got to
make a bigger run.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'm nine hundred years old.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I can't see the blinder you. I mean the numbers
carry the numbers can't get any bigger. Ryan the the
Quinn Hughes trade odds up. Pie is good. Yeah, Dubt
Lowe is not good.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I don't know what you mean by that, but you
we're gonna figure things out here. Red Wings plus one
fifty they're the favorites, and you talked about that earlier
this week Devils plus two to twenty five. His brothers
play there. It makes sense. Rick Talckett with the Flyers
plus seven hundred betting are betting. Bookies dot Com has

(07:35):
the Canucks at plus twelve hundred, The Leafs Lefts plus
sixteen hundred. Anything about the Leafs?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Have you haven't heard anything but leaves? They got to
save their money for Connor McDavid in two years.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
That's a good point. Now here's where you might make
some money. The field what does the field mean the
rest of the national?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Hiking the rest of the national?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Or maybe the cage yoe the field? Plus fourteen hundred.
You don't know what the field.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Means, not the field.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I don't gamble. I'm not too cheap, and even I
know what the field means.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't even know what plus sixteen means. I don't
know any of this stuff. I'm not a gambler. Kenny,
what's his name, Rogers, Rogers the great song. But anyways,
I'm not a gambler. I don't gamble, I don't bet,
do bets. I don't know what plus twenty five under
twenty five? I don't know what that means.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Moving on anyways, So the field would include a team
that you're hearing that a lot a lot of people
have heard. We talked a little bit about this team.
You're you when it comes to the field. Interesting that
there's a team in the Eastern Conference that might be
a strong contender.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
A lot of people keep telling me, don't apparently they're
calling you right now.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think it's you.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
No, it's Rick. Oh, hold good job, No, hold on
a sack. See this is what I mean. It's one
of those eighties we don't have to answer right a lot.
It's one of those toll free service numbers. Anyway, idiots. Anyways,
here we go. Oh, a lot of people are telling
me to keep an eye on Washington and they want
to win the Cup for a Vechgate. You know, he

(09:08):
doesn't have much time left. Right Don, Canucks would be
asking for the likes at twenty four year old centator
Connor McMichael fifty seven points. Last year, nineteen year old
left shot defenseman Cole Hudson should be on the radar
as well. This kill Lane's brother, Yeah, the Montreal defenseman's brother.
Canucks scouts and executives spent a lot of time watching
Hudson Leonard at Boston University and they've coveted him for

(09:30):
a while. I am told Ryan Leonard's not forget about it.
If the Canucks is going to ask about that guy,
untouchable capitalist, I'm told they're doing their due diligence on
Quinn Hughes. I don't know how long this is going
to go, Don. Because Hugh's got no trade protection, they
don't really have to get his feelings. They don't have
to sit him down, they don't have to talk to him.

(09:52):
They if they if rutherforgets what he wants, he can
pull the trigger on the deal. They don't have to
go to Hughes, they don't have to go to his agent.
If they want too, they can cut the deal. But
here's what Adam Foot's complaining that they're not complain. We're
gonna get you, I know, but I'm going to just
tied in. It's affecting the room the memo. When the
memo was sent out, Quinn Hughes has got no points

(10:13):
in his last six games. Surewood's got no goals in
his ten last ten. That memo, the production's going down.
Is all this tree to talk?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Or maybe there's not that good as a team.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well that's true, But you're blaming the memo. I'm blaming
the memo. I'm not saying I'm not blaming the memo.
I'm saying since the memo, everyone's gone stone cold, stone cold.
I maybe maybe you move Hughes quicker than just for
those reasons. I don't know. But they don't have to
go to Hughes, they don't have to go to his agent.
They can cut the deal anytime. If Jim wants to,
you can cut it today. If he wants.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
But we've sat on the show before. We're not the
only ones to say this, but it might have been
the first. But it always seems to be a team,
especially when you're talking about a player without trade protection,
a team that you don't you don't hear much about. Yeah,
for the little bit about Washington, but certainly not as
much as the Flyers, the Devils, Red Red Wings, or

(11:06):
maybe even staying in Vancouver. Yeah, it seems like a
remote possibility given the Gary Mason article.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Have they talked to Quinn about staying, like, have they
sat him down? I don't think that talk's taken place yet?
But are they taking calls on him? Absolutely they are,
But I don't I just don't know when this could
possibly happen. I don't know. But if they get what
they want, I'm sure they could easily pull the trigger.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Okay, you you referred to this or we refer to
this moments ago, but Adam Foot, don't don't worry, but
we've got to sign of control the phone call.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
You're good, No, No, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Okay. Yesterday after Canucks practice, Adam Foot this is the
head coach of the Vancora Cannucks how the Quinn Hughes
trade talk is affecting his players.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
They obviously hear it, Like you said, I think when
I've been around things like that, you're not talking about it.
You're not you know, you're trying not to think about it,
but it's there and you can feel it certain days
more than others. I can feel it certain days more
than others. And these guys are human, they can feel it.

(12:15):
It can affect for sure a locker room. I've give
you guys credit, like they're in a tough spot hearing
the noise, and they keep coming to work every day
and keep keep doing their job and that's their pros.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
But you know, answer your question, they can hear it,
and it probably affects.

Speaker 8 (12:34):
Some players more than others.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
But like I said, they give them a lot of
credit for the way they're handling it, coming to work,
coming to when not trying to win hockey games like
then to their job.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Adam Foot, I'm sure could care less what we think.
But I love that answer because I think nine out
of ten head coaches in any sport, when there's trade
talk surrounding his team, would say, what are you guys
talking about its media speculation and nobody cares. And these
guys are professionals and it's not it's not affecting them
at all. But Adam footz being realistic, Yeah, that they

(13:07):
hear it, and you know it's going to affect some
guys more more than others. And I will say this,
you can say what you want about the Canucks. And
here's something else We've said a lot of. But you
can say what you want about the Canucks and their
roster construction and their injuries. I don't think anybody is
questioning their work ethic. So, you know, while the players
certainly have heard, how could you not, especially with you know,

(13:30):
social media being so available, how can you not hear
about that trade talk? But I don't you look at
their hustle and eye. I think it's there. I mean
you could argue, you know, they've lost games where they've
all played, teams shot and given their roster construction at
this moment with all the injuries, that that's commendable, that
that's commendable. But good on Adam foot for admitting that, yeah, this,

(13:53):
this is this is an issue.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, absolutely it is. And if that memo doesn't get
public if it doesn't come out in a report, not
and they just do it privately, and they just try
to move these guys privately. It would have been a
whole lot better.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, we'll get to the poll question, which has to
do with tonight's game, Canucks hosting the Buffalo Sabers. The
poll question connects the expansion cousins, the Sabers and the Kannucks.
Will do that in the third segment, and of course
I guess the well is the big news going into
this game besides the Quinn Hughes trade speculation Thatcher Dempko,
playing his first game for the Canucks since November eleventh,

(14:27):
missed twelve games. The Knucks went three and nine without them. Wow,
dtmz is it just me coming up in the eleven
o'clock hour? The DTMZ segment somewhat in flux in that
that press conference with the white Caps in Vancouver City
Hall at Vancouver City Hall takes place at eleven thirty,

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So we'll do some tap dancing around then. John Shannon
is going to join us from one hundred Percent Hockey
around eleven fifteen. John recently had Rick Talkett on as
a guest we'll ask him about that, and he's a
BC boy. He'll have maybe some things to say about
a new facility being built on the P and E ground. Yeah,
Dan Near Western Hockey League commissioner, friend of the show,

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will join us just after eleven o'clock. The WHL is
having its prospects game right here in the Vancouver area,
of course, at the LEEC, home of the Vancouver Giants.
Big right, the Great Guy coming up later this hour,
and Thomas Drantz is going to join us next. Normally
on a Friday, but today a Thursday, Thomas Drantz is

(15:33):
going to join us to talk about the Canucks. A
million things going on, and Thomas's latest article is and
titled why I Worry about the Canucks approach to a
Quinn Hughes trait. So a lot to talk about with
Thomas Drantz, who covers the Canucks on a regular basis.
He's next. Thanks so much for tuning in, folks, Donnie

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going around about a guy by the name of Quinn Hughes.
Thomas Drantz joins us now from the Athletic Thanks for
doing this, sir.

Speaker 9 (17:28):
How are you, gentlemen? Good morning, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Your latest article just dropped moments ago. It's entitled why
I Worry about the Canucks approach to a Quinn Hughes trade.
So the question is, why do you worry about the
Canucks approach to a Quinn Us trade?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (17:48):
And look, we've become accustomed in this market because ownership
rarely communicates directly with the fan base. To reading between
the lines of Gary Mason columns and Gary Mason of
the Globe and Mail dropped a hum dinger on Wednesday afternoon,
and reading between the lines of it, I think there's
some really concerning assumptions in terms of the story that

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the Canucks are telling themselves, right, I think, and this
isn't criticism of Mason. I think Mason is giving us
a glimpse into the tortured internal logic that the club
is telling itself in terms of how they got here,
what this team is, and sort of what to do
moving forward. And among those assumptions is this sort of

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idea that like this team that arrived in twenty twenty three,
twenty four as a contender, Right, and Look, that was
a fun season. It was a dream campaign. Talking did
a great job. All all the Canucks best players were
shooting fireballs all year long. They won the division, they
won a round in the playoffs. But you know, I
think it's really important to remember what contenders really look like, right,

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And there's a couple of key traits that contenders share.
One of them is Donnie Rick. Correct me if you disagree,
but they're good year after year.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, like sister year.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
The year after year, these teams come out and it's like, oh, yeah,
that's obviously one of the best teams in hockey. I
mean Carolina year after year, Florida year after year, Tampa
Bay year after year. Go down the list, Vegas, Dallas,
you know, on and on, and the Canucks didn't have
that ever. Right. The other thing that contenders do is
they consistently outshoot and out chance their opponents. And the

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Canucks did that for like two months during the twenty
twenty three to twenty twenty fourth season. The way that
I think you have to look at the last five
six years of Canucks history is that this team was
something somewhere between the twelfth and the twentieth best team
in hockey with a really good, young core group of players.
You know that they amassed during a six year stretch

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from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen in which they selected
at the top ten of the NHL draft five times,
and you know, you sort of look at that stretch
and look at those teams and it's like, yeah, when
they had you know, the right coach in place, when
they were shooting the lights out, when they had elite goaltending,
they were good enough that they could fool you into

(20:14):
thinking that they'd turned the corner, which they did at
the twenty twenty bubble, which they did after Bruce Boudreau
took over from Travis Green in the late winter of
twenty twenty one, in the early spring of twenty twenty two,
and during that twenty twenty three twenty four season, but
they weren't able to sustain it because you know, the
truth is is that if they'd actually been an ascending team,
they would have ascended, they would have been good, and

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they and they weren't. And then the other part of
this is the is the idea of the JT. Miller
trade being this massive setback. Is a thirty two year
old player who got dinged up in preseason. He's not
even playing center full time for the Rangers, gentlemen, He's
lining up regularly on the wing. He's on pace for
fifty points. His five on five underlying metrics suggests that
he's not moving the needle and the Rangers are. What

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fourteenth and point percentage in the East? Like, is that
the profile of a player whose departure would explain why
you're thirty second in the NHL or why you have
to consider, you know, big picture things like maybe trading
one of the best skaters to ever wear a Canucks sweater? Like,
does that make sense to you? Is that credible if
the organization is believing these sorts of you know what

(21:23):
I call lies, but they're not lies to the public,
they're lives to themselves. If the organization is truly believing
that sort of stuff about where they are, where they've
come from, why they've arrived here, and who's responsible, there's
no world in which it matters, you know, if Rutherford
can optimize an auction for Quinn Hughes, or whether thatcher
Demco can stay healthy, or whether Adam Foot becomes you know,

(21:45):
the second coming of Rod Brendamore, or or whether Elias
Petterson becomes a ninety five pointint guy again, Like, none
of that will matter because the basis of the club's
decision making will continue to be, you know, a name
arbitrary or not championship caliber. And if this organization doesn't

(22:06):
start making decisions in a far more sophisticated way, right like,
in a far more credible, balanced way from from the
ownership level on down, they're lost.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
They're lost.

Speaker 10 (22:21):
I honestly felt, I honestly don't know that I've ever
felt as hopeless in terms of what the future outlook
of this franchise looks like, as I did after consuming
Mason's latest.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
When it comes to Quinn Hughes, nobody knows how long
this is gonna go on. We do know they're taking calls.
We know teams are calling on Quinn, but teams that
trade for him don't know if they can resign them
that's gonna hurt the return for Vancouver. It like I
still can. I don't have concrete information if this trade's
gonna go down today or in a couple of months

(22:55):
or at the trade deadline, or he stays. But they're
taking calls, The teams are calling on Quinn Hughes. The
greatest thing here, Thomas is going to be if and
when they execute, does Rutherford get what he wants and
make the deal quick or does he wait so many unknowns? Yeah, the.

Speaker 9 (23:16):
You know, there's nothing good about trading quin Hughes. Okay,
I want to start with I want.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
To start with that.

Speaker 9 (23:21):
However, However, one benefit of trading a player as good
as quin Hughes is that thirty one NHL teams would
love to add a guy like that to their lineup, right,
And for me, I strongly doubt that it matters significantly
to teams whether it's for two playoff runs or one. Right,

(23:42):
what would matter is if it's for eight, right, because
then quin Hughes is part of your long term planning
and that would be valuable. But generally speaking, you're going
to have a ton of interest. The bidding is going
to be fierce, the acquisition cost is going to be mammoth,
and the interest of a variety of other teams, not
to mention the interests that contenders would have in blocking

(24:02):
out or boxing out other teams from being the one
that lands. You know, one of the best defenders in
hockey is going to drive the price up right, Like,
I have zero doubt that an experienced executive like Jim
Rutherford can optimize a Quinn Hughes auction right in terms
of the value coming back for the Canucks. And you know, again,

(24:24):
what concerns me is is the underlying assumptions here, right,
the underlying assumptions about who this team is, where they're at,
what they need to do next. You know, like, for example,
let me say that say this about, for example, the
Miller trade, right, Like, what's the problem with the Miller trade.
It's honestly not that Philip Heedal got dinged up right.
The issue with the Miller trade is the Marcus Petterson trade, right,

(24:45):
is losing that future value. It's the second trade that
concerns me, right, And for this, I come back to
something we talked about briefly on the crossover when when
you guys joined Canucks talk on sports and at six
fifty on Wednesday, and that's, you know, so the idea
that the idea that you know, I sort of think

(25:06):
once Quinn Hughes has traded, if Quinn Hughes is infect traded,
we will put this in a box with some of
the most painful transactions in the history of the Canucks, right,
and one of those transactions, which we talked about on Wednesday,
would be what we call the cam Neely trade. But
it was slightly more complicated than that. And you know
that trade was made by an outgoing general manager in

(25:28):
Jack Gordon, right, that the club was very publicly flirting
with all manner of big name general manager candidates what
the Griffiths ownership group called the Hockeys Are, right, And
so they make that disastrous trade. It's cam Neely and
a first round pick which ends up being Glenn Wesley.
And I mean whatever, We can go over all the

(25:48):
different painful lairs of that transaction, but here's here's one
of them. The Canucks hired Pac Quinn, or at least
got his autograph on a contract, because as we know
that quinn Hire was shrouded in its own controversy. But
they got Quinn's autograph on a contract and handed him
a hockey bag full of money December of nineteen eighty six,
that's six months after the trade. Like that trade marked

(26:11):
sort of not just a cataclysmic mistake in Canuck's history,
but also the end of a sordid era. And I
think the other trade that we should bring up is
the Burret trade. And the Burret trade exists in the
almost exact opposite dichotomy right where Burray gets traded in
January of nineteen ninety nine by Brian Burke, who was
hired six months earlier in June of nineteen ninety eight.

(26:33):
This was at the start of his tenure. Right Burt
stared down Burray and his representatives. He stood Burmi, waited
until he got the price that he wanted, and he
made a trade that was bad, like it was a loss.
Burke will tell you that, I'm sure he's said it
many times before. He said it to Brian at Brian
Murray's retirement. It's like, you really got me on that one.

(26:53):
But of course that's not really true because one of
the things that Burke got back in that trade was
at Jovenai and ed Jobnovski got added to a group
of left handed defensemen that the Canucks were amassing under
the age of twenty five that also included Mattias Olin
and also included Brian McCabe. And in the summer of
nineteen ninety eight, when Burke went to Boston for the

(27:14):
NHL draft, Brian McCabe was the central piece in a
trade that allowed him to get a second top five
pick to orchestrate the Sitting twin trade. I mean, the
point is is you do it. The point is is
that the Quinn Hughes trade can either mark the end
of an era of Canucks hockey or the beginning of
a new one. And I think you have to be

(27:36):
really thoughtful about making sure that a trade that you
lose at least fits in as part of a stable,
intentional plan moving forward. And again I trust Rutherford to
be able to optimize the quin Hughes auction. But right now, anyway,
you know, I think this organization and this isn't about Rutherford,
this is about ownership on down. They have to know

(27:57):
what they want to build before they make a quin
Hughes trade, because it's not specifically about the return, right,
it's about what comes.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Out right a time. Yeah, there's two questions. I can go, Oh,
we know that, we know, we know that. Passion is obvious. Thomas,
We love it, absolutely love it.

Speaker 8 (28:18):
My pleasure.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
Thanks for having me, all right.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Buddy, Thomas Drants from the Athletic Thanks so much, Thomas appreciated.
He's right. The Neely trade. You look at the worst
trade in Cannucks history. Absolutely opinion, absolutely nothing against the
Barry Peterson one hundred point center joining the Vancouver canuction player,
but Neely and what you know, first round draft pick
was was too much. But that deal led to Pat

(28:42):
Quinn joining the team, so that could be looked as
a positive. And then the Bury deal. You think of
what positive what what fall? That was the West Coast
Express era and you know, uh, first of all, Naslyn Morrison, Bertuzzi.
That was a lot of fun. Not a lot of
playoffs success with Mark Crawford, but that team was fun,
It was fun to watch it. It was successful. It should

(29:03):
it should have done better. So you can recover after
a after a well what could be looked at as
a negative moment, they were negative whatever aalv. Burry wanted
to leave and they let go to Kamney Lee Donnie.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Whatever they get for Quinn he was if they move him,
he is not going to be good enough. He is
the best player in franchise history right there with Pavel Burry.
You're just not going to get equal value. I don't
care what people say. I forgot losing a phenomenal talent.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
That and Brian Brooke said that, you know got fleeced
in that deal. I forgot that the Connucks got the
goalie of the future, Kevin Weeks. He wasn't along with
the Ed Jovanowski. Dave Gania was in that later in
his career. And then I forgot the Canucks gave up
Brad Ferns, who was a high draft picked and Brett
Hedikin along with and Brett Heddikin was great in ninety

(29:51):
four in that Stanley Cup run along with Palvil Burray.
That there was a there was a lot there in
that deal. We could go on and on. We have
to introduce the pool question. Thanks to Thomas Strantz. That
poll question is next, Donny tell her your team on check. Okay,

(30:15):
wattling dog poll question.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
We introduce it.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Canucks Sabers tonight experience one of Victoria's iconic destinations, the
waddling dog sleep sip stuck up on one legendary spot.
Come sit and stay Rick at the dog today?

Speaker 1 (30:28):
All right? Oh, I was gonna say, Ryan, now, Quinn,
get her up the waddling dog pole question. The Sabers
have eleven first round picks on their when Hughes joined
our show. Quinn Hughes, is he left the Canucks? Your son, Quinn?
There he is right there? Good kid, good, good young kid, Quinn.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Get her up.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
The Sabers have eleven first round picks on the roster.
Does there lack of success make you feel like the
Canucks shouldn't rebuild? Eighty two percent say no, but eighty
percent say yes, seven hundred and fifty six votes.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
People will always bring up when and I'm a rebuild guy.
Armstrants as well. They'll always bring up what about the Sabers?
You know, fourteen years without a playoffs spown much similar to.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
The Red Wings.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
A lot of very good young players, but they just
it's taken them so long to get back to the playoffs.
But then you look at the Ducks, the Blackhawks, the
Montreal Canadians. They had a documentary called Rebuild.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Arizona, Utah. How many years have they been out the
same thing? Right, But those other teams have committed more
to it. The Coyote slash Mammoth franchise has been in
so much flux, I don't know what their focus was.
So sometimes the rebuilds can work. They can if you
do them right.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
I mean, look at the list of Stanley Cup champions
with first overall picks. It's a long long list. The
Sabers right now, eleven we mentioned in that I think
I've got it right, eleven first round draft picks. Not
necessarily their's like a Bowen Byram drafted in the first round,
fourth overall from the Vancouverage Giants by Colorado traded he

(32:02):
got there, traded to Buffalo. But you know they've had
first overall picks, right the Leans of own power, Donne.
They're down on Owen Power in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
By the way, they traded Sam Reinhart, they traded iicle,
they traded guys who wants Stanley Cups elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Right, But they wanted out.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So now the rumors are Dage Thompson wants out and
his U.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
First round draft pick of the sale was blue.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, and his tuck gonna want out. He's a UFA.
He could walk on July first. So they're right. Every
year somebody wants out and their defenseman Delly and may
want out.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah. It's just such a long list of a long
tenure of failure with that team, and Yellow a lot
of good players and actually, you know Quinn brought this
up with me a few weeks ago. I think it
was like the twenty twenty one Buffalo Sabers and that
roster was just chok for that I call it had

(32:57):
Ryan Hart and all these great young players. Linis Almark
was there, a goaltander. There was a lot there and
yet unable to capitalize. But for me, when it comes
to the Canucks, I just want to see them. I
look at the Ducks, and I look at the Blackhawks
and I see I see hope there, and I see
something that I would want to see as a paying customer,

(33:20):
and it's something that conducts have never really done, and
that's commit to a rebuild. I want to see a
Stanley Cup and I wouldn't mind seeing that that approach
something different. After fifty plus years of not winning a Stanley.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Cup, Donnie, it's frustrating if you're a Buffalo. And here's
the thing about Buffalo. The people don't realize it's one
of the greatest markets in the US. Do you know
when the TV ratings come out in the US, Buffalo
is one of the top teams for It's a great
hockey town.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
And it produces great hockey players like Patrick K.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Patrick K came from.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
The minor hockey in Buffalo, and keeping in mind that,
I always remember going to Toronto and working there for
weeks on end. When I was working at Sportsnet, they
farmed me out for a few weeks and I'd be
living in Toronto. Quinn remembers this well because it was
a great time in his life when the old man
left for a few weeks to Toronto, and the amount

(34:15):
of people who wore Sabers t shirts or jerseys in Toronto.
There were a lot of people from mostly obviously more
southern Ontario near Buffalo. They went to Sabers games. Yeah,
and it is a very strong fan base. That probably
what it does. It deserves better. I heard a radio interview.
I can't remember who the gentleman was on six fifty

(34:37):
this week.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
It was the Buffalo play by play guys.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, No, it was a reporter, I believe.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Huh Hamilton Hamilton, Okay, you know his first name. There
was a play named after him, So, Scott Hamilton, he's
the figure skater. Never mind, I don't think it was,
you know, Okay, So Paul Hamilton, Cole, Paul Paul Okay,
Paul Paul.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Hamilton, Okay, we'll get around to it, okay, And he
was ripping them well.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
He mentioned that I believe the Sabers have had nine
general managers in their history. That's it, and only two
were hired with the NHL experience. Punch him Lack their
very first general manager back in nineteen seventy and later
on in the seventies early eighties, Scottie Bowman. And that's it.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yes, hiring Jim Rutherfer, I know he's not the GM
asn't exactly worked so far for the Canucks.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
And the other one who is ownership don The ownership
has taken a beating there, and ownership matters. You talk
to hockey people. Does the people in the hockey world
talk about the ownership in Buffaloes?

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Well, when it comes to the Pagoulas, you talk about
bad ownership. And yet Ryan, what you like, he's over there?
You're not just worry about Quinn right now? Why are
you hovering over us? Yeah, just go sit over because
I said pooh, Like, please stop.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
You say pooh. I didn't hear you say pooh.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Anyway, You've got a child over there. They own the
Buffalo bills. I know, having Josh Allen helps, but don't
got a new state. I don't think they're talking about
the the owners there like complaining about the owners in
the same hour as to say it, well, same, you.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Got the right GM, I want to write, coach.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I want to say something too as well when it
comes to the Canucks as they prepare to play the
Sabers tonight and again, so much with the Canucks is
not on the ice these days. It's about what's going
on off the ice, what's the direction of this team.
I think one of the worst things that has happened
to this organization is the success in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

(36:47):
the success in the bubble in twenty twenty, that playoff bubble,
and the success in twenty twenty four It doesn't seem
to make a lot of success. Don What are you
talking about? They were they were they were successful there,
you know, but I think those three little bit altered.
Thomas talked about consistency. They didn't follow it up. But
what those years made ownership believe, I think, is that, hey,

(37:12):
why would we have to rebuild? Why would we have
to look at the success we made twenty fifteen you
nailed it right. Look at twenty twenty twenty in the
bubble and Demko is that's when he first came to
the forefront. We got ourselves a great goal. Look at
this team and they just dipped. And the same thing
in twenty twenty four, again that was a lot of fun.
But they won one playoff round and Thomas talked about

(37:34):
being consistent. So it's almost like there was almost like
a victim of their own success and that they believed
there was more there than there actually was.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Okay, but twenty twenties when they lost, you bring up
the bubble a great point. Those free agents, the it
was right there. They lost Marstrom to fully Taniff Tanef
and stature that and then they never made the playoffs
for four years. You let four guys that leadership, that
was the betting era. That that was betting. You let
four guys. You know why they walked because they were

(38:06):
capped out. Don they were and there every year they're
capped out. Right now, they're thirty second in the NHL
capped out. It's embarrassing the way these guys and the
cap it's just embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, and then that that twenty fifteen team, the Sedines
were still there. Great regular season as Jim Bennings, and
then they folded in six in the in the playoffs
to the Calgary Flanks. Oh boy, who were underdogs there.
And you mentioned free agents. They let go of the
door off. That hurts twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's the door off and coal hurt Colestole playing He's
He's in Utah.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Tell yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
They lost so much leadership with those two guys.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
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Speaker 1 (39:18):
We got to ask the half tire. We haven't got
an explanation, Jeremy, if you're watching, what's the half tire?
I've seen tires and gyms I've never seen a half
a tire not.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Many people have, but they're related. When you think about it,
it's a half a tire. Yeah, it's a sled.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Huh, it's a sled slide a sled sledshit. Yeah, so
what do you do? You put it on your waist and.

Speaker 9 (39:41):
No, like you like, there's bars behind the tire that
you push.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
So you're pushing the tire weight.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Okay, look at this. Quinn comes through. We don't have
to so it's a say it again. We see slid. Well,
you keep saying slid word Christmas. It's December. What you
gotta explain?

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just me? Is it just me? Or is the craziest
part of the U situation? Connach fans have accepted a
trade of the best player in franchise history without any pushback.

(41:34):
You would think fans would be irate, Yet nothing I
would agree with him. I think there's there is some
pushback there, but not as much as you'd expect, given
how good Quinn Hughes is Nora's trophy, just watching him play,
et cetera, et cetera. I think part of it is
the reason there's no pushback is because there have been times,

(41:57):
especially this season, when it looks like and Hughes doesn't
want to be in Vancouver, and like his his attitude
has changed I think over the past at least publicly
has changed over the past week or so, but they
were the body language issues not that long ago, and
oftentimes how he comes across in interviews, and I think
that might be that might be part of it.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Big That is an outstanding submission, though it is, it's
you'd expect there'd be what the hell are you more
of what the hell are you guys thinking? But I
also think people are resigned to the fact that your
favorite players, the best players leave this city.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
They do.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Look at recently, if Hughes goes, Hughes, Miller, Horvat gone,
all gone. Fan favorites like Troy Stetcher, see you gone, guy.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
But those guys aren't wanting out, They're getting traded. There's
a difference between get me out of Vancouver.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Right, we hear that Miller had Miller and Patterson had
to go.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
But but regardless, regardless, guys don't stay here. This organization
hasn't been able to cedience guys. It means, yeah, sure,
exception sure, and they kept that core together. But since
that core, who is this organization kept around? Everyone's been
longos contract sucked. Yeah, but you're right, I mean, and
that also speaks to the apathy piece of this whole

(43:15):
thing too. I think there's that apathy part of it
that people resigned to. Yeah, of course when he was
just gonna leave.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Yeah, but I think what I said is has got
truth to it as well, that people look at Well,
he's a competitor, there's no doubt about it, but at
times the way he carries himself and they wonder if
he wants to be here.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Right, Yeah, But even regardless, there should still be an
uproar about him. That you have the best player arguably
enfranchise history. You've had no success with him, and now
because of that, you're being forced to.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Move on from him.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Had some success with him, and that's what's extra frustrating.
Can you see what can been Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Eighteen months ago, they had six guys at the All
Star Game and now they're thirty second. Explain that to
me and capped out. How do you go from six
guys at the All Star Game eighteen months and Rick
and lose Tocket. Tucket's no dummy, he knew what he
was doing. And yet the president that's been able to
watch all that happen is apparently getting a vote of

(44:17):
confidence to stay here. That blows my mind. That blows
my mind. So get rid of Jim today. Who's taken over?
I don't care, Rick, who's taken over? I don't care, guy,
Rick Delly Wall, name one guy. I'm sorry under your
watches the president of this team.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
You just said it. You had all those guys at
the All Star Game. Eighteen months later, you're staring down
a forced rebuild because your captain is gonna move on.
You're you're gone. Sorry, Sia, You've done you haven't done
anything here. We've talked about on the show this week.
But it's arguably darker now than it was at the Bending,
at the end of the Bending.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Regime, and so because of that, how you can get
a vote of confidence out of that is shocking to me,
you can do this battle reading the Mason's article right,
because again, and this is where we disagree, you never
hear from the owner in this situation, so you have
to read into things. And if you read into it yesterday,
he apparently's got a vote of confidence. That's what blows

(45:07):
my mind. Blows my mind how that can happen this guy?
Can you're the owner? Fire him today? Tell me who
you're replacing. You got in December? That is December.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
That's the next part of the conversation.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Well, the first part is you haven't done a good
enough job as president.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
See you later by.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Well, here's the here's the thing that he hasn't done.
He hired a general manager that nobody even thinks could
be his replacement, like like that right there, Like I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Sorry, nobody thinks he's doing the job.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
No exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Jim called Jim is the guy. Yeah, he calls the show.
Do you think Alvin does you out there? You know
you're out to lunch. This is Jim ship And I'll
tell you it all goes back to Horbat and Horbat
right now has got nineteen goals, third in the NHL. Yes,
he's gonna make the Canadian more reason to criticize Jack
in the fire. Number one in face offs in the

(45:56):
National Hockey League, Bo Horvat, number two, you're helping his
Just listen to me, let me finish. And number two.
And I do agree that the decision to pick Miller
over Horvat, and then UH to sign Peterson and not
trade him, these are coming back to haunt right, yes,
which is why I say, but you go and find

(46:17):
me someone right.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Now, Bendy Shanahan.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
But that's that's how they kept Benning around other than
Jim Benning. They kept Benning around because of that and
because the owner could play GM. They have two reasons.
They kept betting Benning around. Who's bidding? I think one
of the dogs in my neighborhood is he calls him bidding.
But anyways, listen, I said bidding instead of betting, because

(46:42):
there's a dog in the neighborhood. His name is Benning.
But listen, Ryan Benning kept telling the owner, I'm going
to fix it in two years. That's why he got
to stay for seven.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yes, and he said that several times probably yeah, exactly,
just yeah, And you always go on you can't commit
to a rebuild that Rutherford say, it's going to take you.
If they would have had that approach years ago, that
they probably be fined. So don't keep doing the same
thing over and over again. Focus.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
So so they gave the president of voter confidence. He's
seventy seven. You think he wants to rebuild? Done well,
that's more reason to get rid of him. But bet,
what do you got for big Ry Well?

Speaker 5 (47:18):
I want to mention very quickly, we have a good
loyal viewer of the show, Legacy Chad.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
We've showed his photos before. He's a great guy. He
sent us a message his brother Brock got a dog
nam bidding his brother Brock from Mary.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
I gotta get a little serious serious brother Brock from
merrit He is officially done chemo and has received a
clear CT scan after battling colon cancer. He's Brock is
a massive fan of our show. He watches it all
the time. And so I want to give a shout
out to Brock. Want to give a shout out to
Legacy Chad again, big fans of the show. And that's
great news right before Christmas that he's got a clean

(47:50):
seat scan.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
All the best of Bronk and chat he had a
picture or no, no, no, what we've showed legacy Chad's
photos in the past.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, he's a great guy. You wish his brother the best. Absolutely,
that's what matters. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
One other thing quickly, Quinn told you guys about the
sled in the last segments Casey and the Whack. Adding
additional information. It's a portable tire flipper used for CrossFit.
Portable tire for CrossFit CrossFit training. Yeah, tire flipper. Yeah,
so you can flip it over and over and over
and over. You could also do what Quinn said and
push it, right. You've seen guys do that in training videos.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
They've got you know, I haven't done it.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
They've got like weights and stuff and they push they
push it on the floor.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Yeah, okay, you could use the tire that way as well.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
So it's a a push tire.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
You're getting familiar with the concept of a sled.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
No, Quinn said, sled. That's the title of the machine.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I'm not a cross what is CrossFit? I don't know
what CrossFit is. Well, it's like more than just lifting
weights from CrossFit. I just go on the bike. Yeah,
you lift weights too, right, I do weights in the bike.
I love the bike.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
You do waste while you're on the don the bike, yeah,
which is great.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yeah, eight miles, thirty minutes, eight miles, say done. Weight
lifting comes after the bike. Doing the bike first. Good
for your lunch, good bye heart. Yeah, I do both.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Dolly Walls is a sled anyway anymore?

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Now, Like you're in the mountain, right, kids, If there's
a snow day, you go to a hill and in
the Lower Mainland it's act with kids.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Shockingly, you an old school, you'd be surprised. An old
school sled metal round, maybe dogging, Yeah, crazy carpet. What
happened to those?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well what about a Rocky when he was fighting the
Russian guy? The logs up the mountain. You can do
a ton of things. We're talking about sleds now I'm talking.
I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Cross fit, the old school, Santa Tazel, that's what you meant,
Clark Griswold. Yeah, the medal it was a metal like
like a circle circle, kind of slid sphere.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Then he greased it up and flying the kids. Unbelievable,
unbelievable anyway.

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Dan Near the inaugural WHL Prospects Game rick Wednesday, February eighteenth,
at the Langley Event Center. The WHL's top NHL Draft
eligible prospects will take part the Western Conference Prospects versus

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the Eastern Conference Prospects. We've seen CHL Prospects games in
the past, but this time around it's a WHL Prospects
game and a Dan's here to talk about that. Dan,
Thanks for doing the sir. How are you andy well?

Speaker 8 (51:44):
Thanks guys, how are you very well?

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Why the move to a one league event versus what
we've seen in the past.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Well, I think we're doing both.

Speaker 11 (51:52):
At the end of the day, we just came off
the CHL Prospects game against the National Training Development Program
and really, you know, it's an unbelievable series and something
we're really excited and proud of. But it only gives
twenty players across the CHL an opportunity to be showcased
in front of NHL Central Scouting and all of the
NHL clubs. And when you think about why you come
play in our league, the number one reason for a

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lot of these young men is they want to have
a chance to make the National Hockey League, and we
see it as part of our responsibility to put them
on a platform to do that. And so putting together
a game that's going to get forty of our best
and brightest, specifically from the West, to get out in
front of the NHL scouts, that's paramount and what we do.
And you know, and I think this will be an
awesome event.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Why was Langley the right choice for this event?

Speaker 11 (52:38):
You know, Vancouver and the Giants have done such a
fantastic job putting on WHL events historically, you know, whether
it's World Juniors, Memorial Cups, CHL prospects, the game games,
you know, and Ron Toygo and his group are are
pretty buttoned up and put together as it relates to that.
And then it's a convenient place. The weather should be

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decent at that time of year where we can congregate
the league and get the NHL to come out and
you know, fairly convenient travel and a chance to put
on an event that should be first class.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, Dan that the kids out
of the Lower Mainland that are getting to the dub
it's top prospects. I think the academies and people below
the dub are doing a great job of developing those
kids for the DUB.

Speaker 8 (53:23):
I think they deserve a lot of credit.

Speaker 11 (53:25):
And you know, Western hockey is on a high right
now when you look at the track record, not of
just the number one overall things, if you go back
the last number of years, and then you go forward
as far as where people think this is going to happen,
you know, in the next two to three years. But
I think if you look at the whole body of
work and the number of players that are represented in

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the World Junior team and the number of players representing
Team Canada at the other age levels, western hockey's on
a high.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
And to your point, I think the.

Speaker 11 (53:53):
Competitive landscape around community hockey, academies and so on and
so forth has created a lot of pressure on everybody
to do better. And when you do better, there's only
one group that benefits the most.

Speaker 8 (54:04):
It's the athletes.

Speaker 11 (54:05):
And we're seeing the result of that, certainly in the
Western Hockey League, and we view it as our job
to do better.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
While we're at it.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Dan, a lot of people, great people out in Chiliac
want to know what's going on with the ownership of
the expansion team. I know he was pushed back a year.
What's going on there.

Speaker 11 (54:20):
Yeah, we're down to an ownership group that we're really
really confident in that we're not prepared to talk about
just yet and have certain non disclosure requirements, but we're
finalizing matters with the city. There'll be some really exciting
building improvements that are going on as part of that
new scoreboard, new rink boards and things like that. But
just the timeline around this, it's a lot different than Penticton.

Speaker 8 (54:41):
Right. Penticton was like flipping a light switch.

Speaker 11 (54:43):
They had a built in fan base, a built in brand,
built in coaches, built in billets, education systems. The Chilliac
team is going to start from the ground up and
it takes a little bit longer to do all those things,
whether it's intellectual property, whether it's designing logos and colors
and jerseys and that type of thing, and building the
team and his staff, and so we needed a little
bit more time to do it right. But we're very

(55:04):
excited about that. Just push back a season versus what
you expected.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
All right, the Memorial Cups in Coloonna this year? How excited? Well,
next year, but how excited?

Speaker 11 (55:14):
Yeah, you know, we're we get it once every three years.
I think anytime it comes here, our goal, our expectation
is that it'll be the best we've ever had, and
I think Colowna is in a position to do that.
They've got their team in order now, you know, sign
another player yesterday that I think is going to contribute
for them. But to bring everybody from junior hockey sphere

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to Western Canada into the Okanagan region is certainly a privilege,
but something where we're going to show we're made of
and you know, it should be entertaining, should be a
great place for sponsors to get together, and of course
will be great competition.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Hey Dan, I'm sure it hurts a lot of people
involved with the Western Hockey League to see someone like
Gavin McKenna performing down at the NCAA level with the
new rules. But when you look at the NHL mark
drafts various websites, there are five or six Western Hockey
League players that are believed to be picked will be

(56:09):
picked in next year's NHL draft. What does that say
about your league's resiliency given the new rules.

Speaker 11 (56:16):
Yeah, you know, I don't think it hurts, to be
honest with you, of course we would prefer that he's
playing in our league. But you know the idea that
here's a player that might go number one overall who
spent three years developing in the Western Hockey League. That's
testament to what we do. I think that what you're
going to find. There's always been players who have been
drafted from other places, whether it's NC double A or otherwise,

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but the vast majority are coming through Major junior and
I think that as time passes here, what players are
going to find is that they have the chance to
have the best of both worlds. NC double A is
a continued development option, but most of them are going
to pursue that until they're done their nineteen year old year. Guys,
I've never heard someone say, boy, I wish I hadn't
stayed in the Western Hockey League from my nineteen year

(57:00):
old year.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (57:01):
Sixty of the captains in the NHL are from the CHL,
and I think they developed that from wearing a letter
in our league, playing in all situations, and contributing in
their nineteen year old year with a level of maturity
and leadership that builds for the future.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Dan all the best with the WHL Prospects Game and
everything to do with your league. You've been on our
show before and we can't thank you enough.

Speaker 8 (57:25):
Happy holidays guys.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
You banks Dan Near WHL commissioner again. That WHL prospects
game Wednesday, February eighteenth at the Langley Events Center. And
you look at those mock drafts and like I say,
five or six players are usually involved in those mock
drafts NHL drafts in the first round, including of course
Ryan Lynn the Vancouver Giants.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Yeah, and you still get your best players from the DUBB.
I don't care what anyone says. It's a great league
and for all the great people in the Western Hockey
League to make that happen. Good on you.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
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Vancouver City Hall Joint Press Press Conference, City Vancouver led
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I guess it looks like that. We'll find out more
just after eleven thirty as we bring in from the

(59:16):
one hundred Percent Hockey Podcast Canucks John Shannon, John, thanks
for doing this, sir.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
How are you?

Speaker 12 (59:23):
I'm great, boys, how are you very good?

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Looks like the off hockey for a second. Looks like
the white Caps are going to get themselves a stadium
where Hastings the racecourse is or was uh there's the
new aphitheater, the the Goldenezer there.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Looks like the.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Peeny Grounds entertainment wise is being resurrected. I'd imagine you've
got some pretty you're a BC boy, and you worked
at the Callisseum a lot few fond memories from the
p and E back in the day.

Speaker 12 (59:50):
Oh you know what, it goes all the way back
Donnie to Uh driving from the Okanagan to watch every
Lion's game and going to Joseph Flows at Nanaimo on
Broadway for our pregame meal and watching watching the old Empire.
You know that if if the city and the p
and E can do what they need to do and

(01:00:12):
revitalize that area, You're right, the coliseum seems to be
back on track. That's a good sign for the city.
You know that because you know, the p and E
grounds for a lot of us has a special place
dating all the way back to Empire.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
There's a whole lot of history, a whole lot of land,
and you can't beat the scenery. Moving on to hockey, John,
Just your reaction. I know we talked about this before,
but it just seems like a Quinn Hughes trade is inevitable.
Just your reaction to the Vancouver Canucks Uh seemingly about
to unload a player that I think everybody would agree

(01:00:47):
as a superstar.

Speaker 12 (01:00:50):
Well, I don't think all the pieces are in place yet.
You know, and let's face it, would we be having
this conversation if they were sixty and ten rather than
ten and sixteen. I don't think we would be. And
I think that's part of the that's part of the discussion.
The team's not winning enough, and there, you know, then

(01:01:13):
there's frustration amongst the fan base. There's frustration in management obviously,
there is in listening to Adam Foot yesterday. There's frustration
in the dressing room, which there should be, which there
should be, So, you know, the it's difficult to look

(01:01:33):
at and say, well, Quinn's Quinn's got to be gone,
and I don't I don't think anybody wants him to leave.
But at the same time, if you can get three
solid assets for him, and I don't know what Rick's hearing,
but if you can hear through, if you can get
three solid assets for him, why not and why not
do it? But at the same time, it would be

(01:01:54):
heartbreaking to think that Quinn Hughes is leaving town at
this point for me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Gretzky, Michael Thornton, Philosophersuito Barcel, Dion, Ron Francis. The list
goes on. But trading a superstar player in their prime,
just your opinion on how things usually work out.

Speaker 12 (01:02:18):
Well, Usually the team that gets the best player wins. Yep,
you know that's that's a reality. The only one that
perhaps defied that was the Eric Lindrosst trait.

Speaker 8 (01:02:29):
When you think.

Speaker 12 (01:02:30):
About Quebec, the people that Quebec got back, including Peter Forsburg,
and whether they were the foundation for Colorado winning that
Stanley Cup in nineteen ninety six. So that's usually what happens.
But you know, this is the fact that now that
things are percolating as they appear to be, perhaps it's

(01:02:55):
going to take a while for the market to decide
what Quinn Hughes is worth. And perhaps Patrick and Jimmy
are going to try to use that leverage in order
to get some things that can help this hockey club
in the near future, not necessarily through the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
John.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
The Canucks are waking up in thirty second place these days.
It's been about a week and people are talking about
regime changes and some people want blood, some people want
this that the owner would have to make a decision
on Rutherford Nelvine. I don't see that happening, but you
can understand why people are starting to talk about those
two in their future.

Speaker 12 (01:03:37):
I can see why when people get frustrated, all the
conversations occur.

Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
Absolutely.

Speaker 12 (01:03:44):
You know, what you don't see very often in season
is a general manager being fired. Yeah, president being fired.
That just doesn't It doesn't happen in this league very often.
You're not going to see a coach fired. I mean,
you just got hired.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
So this is.

Speaker 12 (01:04:04):
I still think that Rutherford and Elvin will be given
the opportunity to do what they need to do to
make this team competitive. And by the way, they did
do that once already in the short time that they
have been in Vancouver. It just evaporated a lot quicker
than people expected it to, so I think, you know,

(01:04:26):
you do have to wonder. I've been asked a lot
the relationship between ownership and Rutherford. I don't hear anything
other than it's still very good. The relationship is solid,
so you know, there is a trust factor between the
family and what Jim and Patrick are trying to do.
And by the way, you know, the team is still

(01:04:50):
drawing very well, revenues are still very good, and so
not to say there is an urgency, but the business
side is is has done a very good job in
a time when the hockey team is trying to find
its own identity.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
John, are you concerned about the rink at the Olympics
in Italy like everyone else's.

Speaker 12 (01:05:17):
Nope, I'm not actually why Well, I've been to enough
Olympics to know that, you know, these these things are
always happening. As I've said, you know that I've walked
into venues where they're rolling the sod down and in
Peyton the drywall and the games are going to start,
you know, the and and the the the common discussion

(01:05:41):
these days. While the building will be fine, we're concerned
about the quality of the ice. As Bill Day said
yesterday in Winnipeg that you know hit the ice makers
from the NHL are in Milan right now. They have
been looking at the second Venue, which is already built.
It's an older building already built that some of the games,

(01:06:03):
and some of the women's games are going to be played.
So they're analyzing that they have people in place to
monitor this. What I what I do think is I
think what we're hearing in so many ways is we're
hearing all the points now that if it does go bad,
the league and the players Association can say I told you.

(01:06:25):
So that's what this is. Just head to me. To me,
this is hedging bets. This is hedging bets the Olympics.
They actually, the people of the IOC actually know what
they're doing. You know, the construction guys in Italy. You
know it takes time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:06:44):
That's uh, that's another story. But I don't see this
as being in the end when the games start. I
think we're gonna sit back, We're going to enjoy it,
and we're and and the games are going to be
just fine it. This is this is par for the
course for a huge venue, a huge Olympic situation. By

(01:07:06):
the way, do we hear of any other venue in trouble?
The only reason we hear about hockey is because we're
so hockey nuts, you know, we don't know what then
of the other ones.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Before I let you go, you had Rick Hackett on
your one Hockey podcast, and uh, I believe he said
he really misses Vancouver. Have I got that right?

Speaker 12 (01:07:28):
That must have been off air. Oh but uh, but
he he did say he learned lots in Vancous.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Yeah, yeah he did.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Buyers are in a playoff spot.

Speaker 12 (01:07:41):
Buyers are in a playoff spot. Rick's done a good
job there and but there, but here. But you know what,
you know, take for Canuck fans, just take a look,
not necessarily at this year with the flyers, take a
look at how how long it's taken for them to
get to this spot. And it's been a long time,

(01:08:05):
you know, five years, perhaps Danny Brier and and they're
still preaching patients in that market. They're still preaching we're
not there yet, We're not ready yet. In fact, that
was the one thing that Rick said. He said, he's
they're having to tell him to be patient because he'd
like to put the you know, the pedal to the
medal right now and trade for somebody and get another guy,

(01:08:26):
and and and they're saying, you know what, let's just
build this methodically and and do the best thing for
the organization so that it's good for a decade.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Imagine the reaction of Vancouver if he gets an Adams Award.
I think you can imagine that. As a matter of fact,
it's not going to happen. So well, according to this show,
Adam Foot is going to win an Adams Award. Yeah,
it was a pull question that Rick came up.

Speaker 12 (01:08:56):
Listen, he's a hockey coach, not America worker.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Bingokay bingo.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
All right, John, next week, Thanks so much, outstanding as always,
you bet John shown one hund percent Hockey Podcast, one
percent Canucks. It might have been someone other than Rick
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twenty nine or waddling dog pole question. The Sabers have
eleven first round picks on their roster. Does there a
lack of success make you feel like the Canucks should
not rebuild? Eighty one percent say no, but nineteen percent
say yes. A thousand votes already starting to hop and
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Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
A lot of people hopping on that rebuild train or
rebuilt sled.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Well, but the Canucks won't use the word rebuild. You're
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but we're gonna focus on sports, which we're probably supposed
to do during a sports talk show. Ryan, we have
some tweets coming out of conduct practice Connocht Morning Skate.
This morning.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Yeah, I got the main one here, and that is
brock Bescher was absent from practice today. So this court
isy good guy Randy jen Adam Foot saying after the
practice of morning skate, Besser woke up with discomfort. Game
time decision, but also he's going to be checking with
doctors to make sure it's not an appendix issue. They're

(01:13:42):
hoping it's not, and they will have him in the
lineup tonight and some of this room claim appendix issue.
Two months, that's how long he's going to be out for.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
So they just can't buy a break. I'm just gonna say, like,
they just can't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
They just can't. Can't it get worse? Yes, is the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
They're down to four American Hockey League centers and now
you lose a top six winger, right, but.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
I don't want to hear that as an excuse for
thirty second place, Like I die.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Yes, they've bowed it made absolutely, but.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
The part of it, well, it's not an excuse. No depth,
no depth, you've got you've got injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
But that goes to roster construction. Yeah, right, slightly, Ryan,
They've had too many atmospurg guys up all year and
and sure abitsburd is in twenty ninth place in the
Americanly there's a effect. That's it. That's it. The ines
are a role.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
But here's the thing. It's one thing to be in
thirty second place. It's another thing to be in thirty
second place with little sign of hope for the future.
That's bingals, especially when you're seemingly on the verge of
trading one of the best players, well arguably the best
player in franchise history. Now that press conference is going
on right now at City Hall, Vancouver City Hall. City

(01:14:54):
of Vancouver, led by Mayor Ken sim reportedly rumored to
be in partnership with the Vancouver white Caps, or at
least their joint announcement with the Vancouver white Caps about
a soccer specific stadium on the Peene Grounds at the
Old Hastings I'm calling it the Old Hastings Racecar Racecourse Land.

(01:15:16):
It wasn't all that that that long ago where you
wonder if the Lions are going to be involved. What
do you got, Ryan?

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
Here it is to the white Caps. Just announced it.
I'm just going to read it. The City of Vancouver
and the white Caps have signed a memorandum of understanding
to answer an exclusive negotiation period through twenty twenty six
to explore a new stadium and entertainment district at Hastings Park.
The agreement marks a significant step forward toward creating a
world class sports and cultural destination for residents and visitors.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
You know, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
So when they say entertainment district, well, we're talking about
the stadium, casino, you know, hotel. Maybe there's a lot
of that. Yeah, because you know, the other question is parking.
What's going to happened there, especially since there's no skytrain
station nearby. How to the people, the residents of around

(01:16:07):
the Peeney East Vancouver, how do they feel about this?
So many questions to be answered. Meanwhile, after the White
Cap said anything that you can see ryan about the
twenty twenty sixth season. Their lease has expired at BC Place,
what happens there? We just assume they're going to be
playing there, But what are those negotiations?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Like, I don't believe they're taking questions yet. I think
the mayor and Axel Schuster have just talked about this
original first statement and also the statement, by the way,
goes on to say the least area is within the
current Hastings racecourse footprint that includes space recently used for
the racecourse and casino operations. So that's horns, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Yeah, I've been told that the where the barns are,
and you know it's important for a horse to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Have a barn near barn.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Yeah, that's where the parking would be. Obviously we'd be
beyond that as well. You'd have to think.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
These teams now when they build facilities across sports, they
want a twelve month a year facility be used generating revenue.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
So that's why you're gonna see this. It won't just
be a stadium popped up there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
How long the MLS season is, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. But they also want, you know,
other components to it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Especially the other thing that on the grounds here is
the new Amphitheater, right, so if you have a hotel there,
maybe you can build a hotel name I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Concerts, it's I'm and again we'll see public money private money.
That's gonna be another issue. Obviously. If it's public money,
people will be upset because we all just paid for
a BC place. When you talk about public money, is
that's just you know, from the City of Vancouver from
the province again. Are the Lions involved, Lamar Dolman be involved.

(01:17:48):
I'm not so sure, but as somebody who grew up
near the P and E, I love this that that level,
with the new Amphitheater things being erected. Entertainment wise, the
white Caps looks like they're going to be moving back there.
That's that's exciting to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Me, absolutely, and it's gonna quell all the talk about
them leaving town, which which, by the way, one year
ago Saturday is when the announcement came out that they
were looking at selling the team.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Have they made enough news and and pretty much all
of it positive since then, Like I mean, think about
the hiring of yes persors, which came on the heels
of the announcement of them moving. Who's this guy and
he's a lame duck coach and man, he's just just
done a fabulous job. The whole organization is done a
fabulous job in the face of adversity. Good for them,

(01:18:36):
and now this we got time for birthdays.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Yeah, okay, how many do you have? H hold on five?
But I can, I can trim it down.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Go with five five s Doc trim down the hockey guy,
my son, Quinn Taylor's gonna join us here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Quinn's gonna get Okay, let's go right right, rifle it up.
Let's go this. Quinn, stay out of this. This is
for your dad. This defense he's not gonna he's an
old so he's not gonna get it. Put money on it.
Rick You're you're fine, Oh, Tricky, Ricky's magic, shopping casino
and beautiful for Saint John. Oh. I loved it up there.
This defenseman began his career at the age of sixteen

(01:19:11):
in nineteen seventy six in the Swedish Elite League. He
was named Player of the Year in nineteen eighty five,
MVP in nineteen eighty eight and eighty nine. In Sweden.
He was on the nineteen eighty four and eighty seven
Swedish Canada Cup teams. He made the final in eighty
four sci that time tub Top giving you the goods.
He signed with the Canucks as a free agent in

(01:19:32):
nineteen eighty one. He wasn't here long played in the
eighty two Cup final.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
You just said eighty eight, eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
That that's not what the Canucks, that's what Swedish. His
Swedish team that goes back top going now telling you
Canocks signed him in eighty one?

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
Is it Lars Lindgrin or Anders Elder break?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Andrews Elder break? I told you Quinn, you wouldn't get that. Yeah,
no way I called it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
I called it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Only your dad would know. All right, this one you
you have a shot at Quinn and you two right?
This forward stan out, This forward selected twelfth overall in
the eighty three NHL draft by the Rangers. His career
flourished with the North Stars. Oh I remember him, scoring
forty goals thirty goals four times. Played for Team Canada
nineteen eighty four Winter Olympics SERIEBO uh. Six teams he

(01:20:17):
played for the NHL, including the Canucks. He was director
of player personnel for the Canucks under Mike Gillis. Are
you kidding me? DG Dave? His son played for the
Edponton Orders. His son played for the Yeah he's an
Asian now too, by the way, Yeah, he's an agent
for the same agency. Is okay? Anyway, here we go.

(01:20:41):
This forward won the twenty sixty Memorial Cup with London Knights.
High drafting math.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
Oh wo wow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Quinn Wow, he could have gone, you could have gone,
let that that's not suspicious because that was Mitch Marder.
That team was loaded. They waned in red Deer and uh,
that's good. I like that quick draft from the London
Nights that that team was absolutely absolutely good to see

(01:21:10):
only on the ice in atmosphere. Okay, here we go. Yeah,
we got a comedian. We got a comedian. American set
an all time record for arenas like Toronto, Scotia Bank
and Philadelphia, as well as Fargo Center for revenue. His
twenty twenty three special on Netflix top ten and five
Countries Breakout Year. In twenty nineteen, just for laughs in Montreal,

(01:21:33):
he was named one of the best new faces. The
recognition in Montreal led him to being hired by Saturday
Night Live, Are You serious? All three you? Twenty nineteen
where he's always on Joe Rogan's podcast. Shane Gillis hole
Quinn two for two in the.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Last two Quinn likes his comedians.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
That's right, Shane Gillis, and he got fired from US
Saturday Night five days later. Okay, this one, Quinn and Ryan,
stay out of it. I can't. They're not gonna get
both old sot. This is for old people like you
and I. This game show host held a black belt
in karate. He was trained by Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris
actually trained him. In nineteen fifty, he moved to California

(01:22:20):
to advance his broadcasting career and was given his own
radio show. He wanted to host a CBC shape a
game show, Jack Berry's The Final Joker, No Hold on
a sec jack Berry's The Joker's Wild, but he was rejected.
He wanted it and they said beat it. Nineteen seventies
and eighties, he co hosted CBC's coverage of the Rose.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Parade from CBC or CBS.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
CBS's coverage of the Rose Parade from Pasadena.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
In nineteen eighty Martindale No.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
In nineteen eighty seven, he stopped using hair dye and
let his hair go gray.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
He is a fourteen time game winner of the Daytime
Emmy Award for Outstanding Game Show Host. Truth or Consequences
nineteen Fifob.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Bob Barker, you got it that hair dye?

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yeah? I gotta do research. It takes forever to do
these birthdays. How do you not mention happy Gilmore? Yeah?
Prices if I mentioned price. You're gonna get it right away.
My job is to make your work. Yeah, you look
up his hair dye situation. Hey, a lot of people
use hair dye, and he said, screw the hair dye,
I'm gonna go gray.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Yeah, just very quickly before we break.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
We are way against the time wise, but there is
more out of the white Caps press coverts to two things.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
White Caps. This is according to the mayor can Can
sim white Caps and their partners have to come up
with a plan and finance that plan in terms of
who will build the stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Any word on the partners no, no, and the current
ownership group or someone else, Well, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
That that we'd have to get clarification on that design
included mar Doman and Axis. Schuster confirms the club is
very much still for sale, so there's a lot of
work to do. Yeah, and we've heard about the present
potential investor coming aboard with this ownership group.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Amarin Dillman.

Speaker 5 (01:24:14):
Yeah, I don't know about that, but yeah, interesting times.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
I just love the fact that, again I'm totally biased
because I grew up near there. That looks like that
Peeny Land is being resurrected.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah, let's hope they get it done. Let's just hope
they get it done.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Okay, And I could go on them on. I don't
mind watching games at BC Place. I realize I might
be in the minority, and I think the BC lines
need to get over there too. There's not forty thousand
people doed. It's twenty two to twenty three. It's too
big BC Place for lines get over there and get
into that stadium with the white games. But the taxpayers
bucked up over half a billion dollars BC Place.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
That's fine. Ac DC's going in there. Ac DC was here,
These guys were here there there. There's why there's one
out of three sets. The BC lines don't do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
You'd hope part of it is part of the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
Is part of the deal there? The deal? Yeah, exactly,
the ones. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
If there's big games, big playoff games, yeah, big events,
white Caps, maybe Lions that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
They go back at DC Place, yep, Yeah, And you
do see that elsewhere happen?

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
Is it just me coming up? In the next segment,
the late Frank Sinatra, Oh, I love this because it's
gonna mess you up tomorrow. Ryan, the late Frank Sinatra
born one hundred and ten years ago tomorrow, and he's
gonna play us out from June seventy seven, the album
trilogy Past President, Future Frank in New York, New York
on check Victoria, Vancouver and all BC on a BC

(01:25:45):
Thursday morning.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Is it just me?

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
Nurds, start spreading the news.

Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
I'm leaving today.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
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award winning Waddling Dog has been welcoming guests and their
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in the Ferry. Their room blend vented charm with modern comfort,
making it the perfect home base for your island adventures.

(01:26:20):
Your trip isn't complete without a stop at the legendary
Waddling Dog. Pop twenty taps, Wald to Wall, TVs, every
Canucks game and UFC pay per view, plus an extensive
daily happy hour, and before you go stuck up at
their cold beer wine store, hundreds of local and imported options,
plus exclusive Donnie and Dolly merchandise. The Dog isn't just

(01:26:44):
a hotel, It's a destination.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Come sentence day, Okay, this will be an all time
quick is it just Me? Segment to Rick lead us off.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
All right, cam permission. He's a liquor sales rep and
he spends a lot of time in his car driving
around out where his number one podcast. So I wanted
to think.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
And is it just me?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
I want to get plugging for Camy. He's a good guy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Callen Langley?

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Is it just me?

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
But the folks around the Penis will be happy to
park your car again again, cal and Langley who clearly
has been around for a while. You know what he's
talking about, right the signs yes, yes, parking people's yards.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
We used to do it at the Giants games when
the Giants were there. For sure. I know one person
who could buy and build the new stadium and currently
owns the Dallas Stars, Braydon and Abtsport. Talking about Tom Glardy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Ooh that's good swapping teams. Uh, that would be a
bit of a reach.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Is it just me?

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Unsigned as from Henry in Montreal, Don, is this the
darkest time for the Canucks in your time covering them? Yeah,
it's certainly up there. Again, the darkest time for me
would be where when I got from back up North eighties,
the mid eighties, because like now, on the on ice
product is questionable, but you've got and although the numbers

(01:28:05):
seem to be decreasing, people in the seats back then
Rick what eight nine were talking about earlier this week.
That was a dark period and it was in the
wake of them making the eighty two Stanley Cup Final and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
The John mccawdays were bad too. And this last fourteen
years were great. Last fourteen years are right up there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
And it just me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
But the two prospect young players that Canucks should be
after from the teams that you guys are talking about
for Quinn, Ryan Leonard and Porter Marton, I can tell
you Porter Marton is not going to be available. He's
a he's a high pick for Philadelphia that Sheldon from Surrey.
But again Leonard from Washington high pick capitals are saying

(01:28:43):
he's not available and don't make the deal. Then the
teams are not giving you everything you want because they
don't happen. Don't make the deal, but they don't have
a guarantee Quinn's going to resign, so they that hurts
the Canucks. Yeah, it hurts the Canucks.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
But they have the possibility of having well the possible
the next year and a half, well for two playoffs
you'd think two playoffs. Okay, let's take a break, wrap
up the show and the poll question. Next, do need
to all the team on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Check dog poll? Rick Ry get her up the waddling
dog pole question? And it is. The Sabers have eleven
first round picks on their roster. Does there lack of
success make you feel like the Canucks shouldn't rebuild? Eighty
one percent say no, but ninety percent say yes, almost
eleven hundred votes. Is starting to hop and pop on

(01:29:28):
a Friday or Thursday morning.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
A memorandum of understanding between the White Camps and the
City of Vancouver regarding land at the Peeny and a
new stadium, possibly for the White Camps. Meanwhile, photos photos
that Ryan, where we're going you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
This is your neighbor. Oh yeah, this is my neighbor, Peter. No, No,
you gotta show the neighbor first. This is the neighbor's nephew.
This is my neighbor. Good guy, Jeff. He's got a
little chihuahua. He walks around the neighbor heading. No, he's
got a little touaha. He's a bidding baby. He's not.
The chihuahua is not binding. It's another dog. Named Binning.

(01:30:04):
But this is a good guy, Jeff, my neighbor. I
see him all the time, he said, watching it. Now
you can show THEO his nephew, the Victoria Royals you
seventeen team Donnie. This is at Canland in North Fan.
So there's that's my neighbor Jeff watching his nephew from Victoria,
THEO both with Donnie and Dollie Dukes. Thank you, guys.

(01:30:24):
More pictures, Ryan, where we're going now?

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
This next one, hold on, I gotta just get it.
The next one is the Bagman.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
And no Bagman. Bagman from North Fan. So watching our
show the other day and we're talking about bag guys,
no guys with bags. Now look at this. This is
a bag shot from last year, is presented on your
show The Bag. I remember this fan because this is
relevant because the last Cannucks home game we saw people
wearing bags over their head.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
So he was ahead of the curve.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
He was ahead of the curve.

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
And now he's watching our show with a bag of
his head.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Yeah, okay, Ryan, one more picture. We could do one
more very quickly. Here this is our good pal. Hold
on a sec Kenon Surry.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
You're a bag invault.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
It's Kennon Surrey, right, Yeah, Kennon Surry, good guy. My
wife and I ride, get it up. My wife and
I stopped by the Waddling Dog on our way back
from Suk on her birthday, picked up some D and
D shwag as well. Look at this or what a
beautiful photo. That's a Kenon Surry.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
He's got the bucket hat on. But we've got those
new tukes which are just spectacular.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
For the beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
They are black and blue colors and thanks to everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Ken looking great. They're beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
Thanks all right, connection Sabers Tonight Rogers arena that your
damn cob returns. Yes, we'll see about broadcaster's status. Okay,
thanks so much for tuning in, folks on behalf of
Bryan Quinn, Derek Rick. Everybody here at Oh Boy and Check.
I'm don and you're up to dating worlder sports.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Thanks for listening to the Donnie and Dolly Podcast. Be
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