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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
It was good everybody. Welcome to Dope Interviews, brought to
you by the mighty nineteen year group on You Hold
one show and in the virtual buildings. Today I have
yet another another amazing guest. She's a lawyer, public speaker,
a mom of course, but more importantly for the purposes
of this conversation. Not more importantly, but purposes of this conversation.
She is the founder of HBCU Week. Ashley Christopher Ashley,
(00:31):
Welcome to Dope Interviews. Thank you so much for being
here with us today.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh, thank you so so much for having me. It's
great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, it's nice of you to say that you know
you are, you are a woman of town. You have
lots of things going on. It's super super busy within
this space. And I know you've done a million of
these interviews.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But for our guests here.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Who might be the uninitiated to the work that you're
doing with HBC YOU Week, can you tell me a
little bit about the impetus, the why behind you know,
HBCU Week, how you got involved to it. I know
obviously you went there, but talk to us a little
bit more about that journey.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah. So HBCU Week I started here in my hometown
of Wilmington, Delaware, back in twenty seventeen, and it was
really inspired by my time at Howard University. I had
the pleasure of serving as the vice chair of Howard
Homecoming while I was there. It gave me a clear
backdrop on large scale event planning. The impact that Howard
(01:23):
had on my life or still has, is often difficult
to put into words. And I went on to another
HBCU for law school, the day to day Clark School
of Law at the University of DC. So I counted
as a personal responsibility to expose as many students who
look like me to the opportunities of attending in HBCU.
So when I put this event together, if you will,
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it started out as just a small college fair like
activation in my hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, because I wanted
the students here to know that not only was college
an option for them, but I wanted them to be
exposed to the opportunities of attending in HBCU. So when
I started to market this opportunity, I planned for about
two hundred kids back in twenty seventeen, and we had
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seven hundred show up. So I knew that if there
was an appetite like that in Wilmington, Delaware for an
HBCU education, that this could absolutely be expanded and then
taken across the country.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Circling back to you know, even your work or your
beginning in HBCUs, especially at Howard, is that where you know,
from a familial standpoint, is that where you always wanted
to go? Like?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
How did you get there to begin with?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You know, because a lot of you know, people like us, Hey,
sometimes it's not that I'm older school, if you will,
I grew up watching Different World and Hillmen, and I'll
understand even what.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That was kind of like, So for you, what was
that journey for? How would I go? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know, it's actually funny. Both of my parents they
are not HBCUE, but they encouraged me, my sister, and
my brother to choose an HBCU. My mother graduated from Temple,
my father from Drexel. They always wanted an HBCU experience
but didn't have it. So they were the reasons why
we turned our eye to say, hey, maybe we should
check out these institutions, and my sister is really really
(03:06):
the one to credit for my time at Howard because
initially you couldn't tell me anything different. I was going
to Spelman. Spellman was my number one school, but I
ended up going to an all girls Catholic high school,
so I didn't really want that all girls experience again.
And then my sister ended up going to Howard University.
She's two years older than me, and she was a
dancer on the Ula La dance team and they're band dancers.
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And I went down to see her perform my freshman
year while I was in my junior year. I'm sorry,
while I was in high school, she was a freshman,
and I was sold that was the place for me,
and there was nothing that anyone else could say to
change my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's so interesting, right is I think exactly what you're
saying that happened to you. Yeah, you're trying to create
that experience and things for others like you get that
exposure and sometimes you don't know what you don't know, right.
I think for a lot of people who look like us,
those larger schools can come calling and you feel like okay,
because they're the ones you see on TV, you know
a lot more and they have a little bit more advertising.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
But to be able to.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Dig into that experience, you need to see the experience
even kind of know what you're missing. And I think
that's what what you're doing with HBC Week experience in general.
So obviously you said twenty seventeen it jumped out, jumped
out the window with success. You know, I think I
think immediately, you know, how do you how do you
handle that level of success early on? Because we've I'm
(04:32):
going to ask you this question a couple of times
kind of throughout this throughout this conversation. We live in
a what have you done for emili lateis society? So
first year, all that success, how do you jump into
the next year not even expecting to have that much
success the first time?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know the phrase, we're building the
plane as we're flying it. That's that's how we've been.
That's how we've been, you know, making this happen over
the last several years. But honestly, that background that I
got at Howard University large scale event planning as vice
chair of Howard Homecoming, it taught me how to really
(05:06):
stand up and activate events so I knew that when
we had that kind of appetite in Wilmington, that we
could expand this into an authentic HBC homecoming like experience.
So after that year, we decided to expand into several days,
So we turned it into an activation here in Wilmington,
Delaware where students could get the full gamut of what
(05:27):
an HBCU homecoming looked like. We did all the fun things,
you know, concert comedy show, panel discussions, battle the bands,
But that cornerstone event is our college fair because that's
where students can compete for on the spot acceptances into
college and scholarship awards, and so that's where all the
magic really happens.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So as you talk about that on the spot acceptance,
I'm sure that creates a lot of joy in the moment,
I think for that for those students and those families.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Can you talk to.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Us about again whether it was the first time that
happened or what was the most memorable areas that you've
had for producing this event for the last seven eight years.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh my gosh. So it is absolutely the scholarship opportunities.
So the laser focus that we have in our foundation
is to really raise as much dollars as we can,
as many dollars as we can to contribute to the
cost of higher education. Every year, it costs more and
more for students to go to school, and unfortunately, our
(06:24):
HBCUs cannot compete with predominantly white institutions when it comes
to merit based scholarships. So you'll have students with these
stellar academic backgrounds want nothing more than to go to
an HBCU and maybe they get into Howard or North
Carolina A and T or Spellman or Delaware State University,
but they have these other competing schools that can offer
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them a full ride while the HBCU cannot. So what
we look to do is to fill that gap so
the student can go to their choice school. Our most
popular scholarship is our STEM scholarship. So I was able
to broker a forty million dollar part ship with the
American Chemistry Council, whereby we are giving away one thousand,
forty thousand dollars scholarships to students who declare a STEM
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major and attending HBCU, and we've given away just over
five hundred and fifty of those scholarships so far. We
have one hundred and ten of those scholars at North
Carolina A and T, we have seventy four of them.
At Howard University, there are forty four HBCUs represented with
those scholarship recipients through our foundation. So what we do
on a daily basis is go to these companies and
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advocate for these dollars, our most significant dollar amount. I
would say, we just landed a partnership with the AstraZeneca
company here in Wilmington, Delaware, where they're offering full rides.
So three very deserving students will each receive one hundred
and thirty three thousand dollars to go to their choice HBCU. Right,
So it's really about minimizing that student debt and giving
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these students the opportunity to attend the schools that they
really want to go to.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Free and Claire, Huh, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So you're a lawyer as well, right, so you understand
the negotiation. I don't know, so is it contract law
that you studied specifically, or what type of law was it?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So when I was in school, there's not really any
particular majors. Everybody learns the general practice. But after I
did finish law school, I went into a three year
clerkship program. So I worked in the family court, I
worked in the court ac common Please, I worked in
superior court. And after that long journey passing the bar
in two different states, I decided the traditional practice wasn't
(08:34):
for me. You know, as a creative, being a traditional
lawyer just puts you into a box that is just
so restrictive. The skill set that I got from law school, though,
is transferable. I can use that in any industry and
it works a lot with my negotiating, with my public speaking,
with my putting together these programming events, you know, always
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mitigating risk, making sure we're getting the best reward. So
I am very grateful for my law degree and that experience,
but I just didn't choose to go to traditional how
it wasn't for me.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Wow, we have some similarities because I was going to
pursue law when I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I did legal studies. I didn't actually go to law school.
I realized early enough, and I was like, nah, yeah,
I don't be able to do.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But at the end of the day, the reason I
asked because I think, you know, when you're talking about
these you know, multimillion dollar you know, donations and scholarships
that you're able to get into.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, uh, just.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
When you're trying to approach a company, you know about
the work that you're doing, you know what resistance, if
any are you are are you having and how are
you utilizing the law degree in essence or maybe what, however,
like your negotiation tactics to maybe convince somebody who may
not be as willing to pony up you know, hundreds
of millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, you know, the best thing that I've done when
I show up to these conversations is just to be
authentically made. The passion comes out right, the love that
I have for HBCUs and these students and the experience
I want them to have, it just comes out in conversation.
And when you feel that authenticity, it's often difficult to
say no. You know, we don't always land the forty
(10:13):
million dollar partnerships, right, but we do have a lot
of partners that align with our mission, that feel the authenticity,
that love the work that we're doing, and our missions
are aligned. So when you do choose your path, when
you do decide which route you do want to go,
when you're authentic, when you love it, when you're passionate,
about it. It shows through and the success will follow.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
You, I mean, and that's that's an amazing thing to hear.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I think.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
With HBCUs for some companies, you know, they know like
all right, well, you know it's too restrictive, right, so,
but we've also gone through some semblance of social change,
you know, over the last you know, half decade, if
you will.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
So, I don't know if it's easier or harder.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think at this stage for you, now, what would
you say it is?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Has it easier because companies like you know what we
need to do this and you know, I'm going to
be honest, like some people want to check a box
and then some people actually want to help.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Right, either way, the money's still green.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And as long as the check's still clear and these
families get to go, I guess it shouldn't matter.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
But have you found the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Work to be easier since some of the earlier events
in the last half decade.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I will say initially around the twenty twenty mark, there
were a lot of companies pouring in wanting to get
involved with what we were doing. But we pride ourselves
in our foundation. We don't participate in many transactional relationships, right,
it has to go deeper than that. For example, the
Fosse Scholarship, the Future of STEM scholars initiative that I
(11:41):
addressed earlier, that's not just a forty thousand dollars scholarship.
These students are getting matched with the mentor, they get
matched with an internship, year round programming, and the goal
is post graduation job placement. So we're not just giving
checks and saying hey, see later, but we're checking in
with our students. They become our family. So we don't
do any thing based purely on transaction. And we have
(12:02):
had people that have approached us to somewhat check a box,
and when we see and kind of feel that, we
move in a different direction because it doesn't really align
with with our mission and what we want to do,
the authenticity, the brand, you know, supporting these black students
means the world. And if you know our missions don't align,
that's okay. Maybe we could find another way to work
(12:25):
together at a later date, or maybe it just doesn't work.
But we pride ourselves in, you know, really authentic relationships
and alignment with companies whose missions are similar to ours.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
I mean, that's hell.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Adobe actually honestly, you know, and not a lot of
companies are able to say that. You know, sometimes they
just have to take what's presented to them box checking
or not. So if you're able to maintain the integrity
of what you're trying to do behind it, I mean,
that's that's so big. So kudos to you and your team,
you know, for being able to do that and put
that into place. I'm going to just take an assumption
here by now, so with it, you know, going going
(12:59):
into year seven eight here, right, have you helped maybe
multiple families, Yeah, I mean siblings.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
You know, at this stage you know of your journey
with this HBCU week.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Oh my gosh. So as after we finished year seven,
we had serviced forty five thousand students and families. Just
last year we had thirteen thousand students attend our college
Fair and Wilmington, Delaware. We have been able to since
twenty seventeen, all for more than eight thousand college acceptances
on the spot. We've raised an award at more than
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eighty seven million dollars in scholarship awards. And sometimes it
is for siblings, sometimes it is for family members, you know,
and it's exciting when you make those phone calls, right
because you're calling them to say, hey, you're the recipient
of a forty thousand dollars or a fifty thousand dollars
or twenty five thousand dollars scholarship award. And a lot
of times, you know, these students wouldn't be able to
(13:53):
choose these universities without this money. And if I'm being honest,
the parents are celebrating much more than the the students,
you know, because the area one's responsible over the checks.
But it's just a fantastic display of being able to
do the work, being able to sustain some impact and
help these students across the finish line and you know,
(14:14):
get started on whatever their dreams may be.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We're chatting with Asha Christopher, the founder of HBC week
here on Dope Interviews.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
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Speaker 4 (15:34):
Back here with Ashley Christopher.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Make sure you're following her great, great work at HPCU
week exactly what I just said. You can follow them
at hpc week and also your media channels. Actually let's
turn it into a little bit of the events. But
also I'll get a little controversial with you, all right.
So Howard is the for.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
It's the HPCU that most people know, right, So you
went there with Ksep Butcher from the Delaware area. So
did you get some pushback and saying like, well, why
aren't you doing this HBC you know in DC near
Howard or where the case would be, versus delawhere where
you're from.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know, I didn't. I didn't get any pushback about
the location. And my hometown means the world to me.
I'm a Wilmington girl and I see students every day.
I've dedicated my life's work to make sure students have
this kind of access, So there was really no question
for me about where I would start this opportunity. A
lot of students in my hometown don't even feel like
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their college material or college is an option, So starting
here was the best place to sustain that kind of impact.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
All right, So is National Paneltic involved in this at all?
Do you get the Greeks to kind of come out
and join the whole festivities?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You know what I do. I had the opportunity at
Howard I was initiated into the Alpha chapter of Delta
Sigma Theta sorority incorporation. Yes, uh huh. So you know
my line sisters, listen, you know that that is a
long life, lasting relationship forever. And we always get the
panhell involved in our events. So they activated our college fairs,
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they come with information about in the year round program
they have for current high school students in these scholarship opportunities.
So we always have the pan Hellenic Council involved in
our events. It's very important to showcase that part of
the HBCU culture.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I mean, and again, seems like you you are definitely
covering all gamuts of that. So tell us a little
bit about what's happening in Wilmington here within the next week.
You know, what are some of the events that you're
looking forward to and that everybody else should be looking
forward to.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
As it gets set to head out to Delaware.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh absolutely, so HBC Week Wilmington. It kicks off on Sunday.
It'll go from Sunday, September to twenty second through Sunday,
September the twenty ninth, so a full eight day stretch
of events. We're going to kick it off with a
gospel brunch. A lot of HBCUs were founded in church basements.
We always think it's important to start off with that
gospel brunch. Most homecomings will start off with the convocation service.
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From there, we'll do it's important to keep your body moving,
especially in our community, to maintain your health. On Tuesday,
we will do a middle school college tour, so we
round up some middle school students from the Wilmington, Delaware
area and take them down to Delaware State University where
they can experience a day in the life of a
college student. We don't think it's ever too early to
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start that process. On Wednesday, we're having a really cool
concert that's going to feature Lady London, Jadakiss and JT
right here in Wilmington. Very excited about that. Thursday, we'll
do a panel discussion at one of our local high
schools to bring them an HBCU experience from some current
alum so they can get first hand information about that
college campus life. And then on Friday, we have our
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Cornerstone event at College Fair. That's where students can come
and compete for the on the spot college acceptances and
scholarship awards. Our brand ambassador, Stephen A. Smith will be there.
He always loves to come engage with the students, give
them some inspiring words and talk about his HBC experience
as a Wednesday Salem State University alone. And then on Saturday,
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we'll do a block party and HBCU Block Party downtown Wilmington.
We have twenty plus vendors, a DJ, a host games,
just a great time for the whole family to enjoy.
And then we'll wrap it up on Sunday with our
Battle the Bands at Frawley Stadium. So we have Delaware
State University, Lincoln University, Morgan State University, and Virginia State University.
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So that's going to be a fantastic event. So I
encourage everybody to check us out hbcweek dot org. All
the information is there if you'd like to attend. The
only ticketed events are our Battle the Bands. Tickets are
only fifteen dollars and then our concert. General mission for
the concert is forty dollars. Everything else is free. Oh
(19:45):
I'm sorry. Our gospel brunch is also forty bucks, but
everything else is free. If you want to come by
our block party, attend a panel discussion. It's going to
be a great time for the whole family to enjoy.
So I encourage everybody to check it out.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You are a spokesperson and a half. I'm tired just
listening to you'd run down the event.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
How is everybody?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, activity like yo you Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
No, it is crazy. It's crazy, you know. But I
have a fantastic team. Oh my gosh, my team is amazing.
Without them, we would not be here. I mean, this
is not work that I can do in a silo
or by myself. So I'm very grateful for the team
that I have around me that helps me to lift
this up. We're all hbculone. We love the work and
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it's really important to us.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
All a couple of last ones before you let you
you know, get to all the planning and.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Get some rest for you know, all that that cadence
of events.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You're doing some stuff in Disney later in the year
as well too, So is that the first year that
it's doubling or have you been in Disney World before?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Excuse my ignorance, you know on the question.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, no, not a problem. So this is our second
time in Disney. We do Disney every other year, so
our first year was in twenty twenty two. We do
a VIP reception, we do a college fair, and have
some fun in the park. So this year in Disney,
we'll have our VIP reception on October the twenty third,
which is a Wednesday. Then our college fair is Thursday,
October the twenty fourth. Last time in Disney, we had
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about nine thousand students, so I'm anticipating a larger number,
and then we'll enjoy some park time after that to decompress.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, it sounds like it'll be well deserved. You're staying
on the grind.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You're producing these these amazing events, you know, for these families,
and I'm excited to see, uh it be successful as
it always is. Man, I wish I could get to
to one of them myself.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I got I got to do better planning with my
dates in alignment. I definitely want to know.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
We'd love to have you. We love.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know you got the fire hoodies and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Man, Yeah, to.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Send you one, give me your information. I gotta send
you one.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I got, I got you last couple. So you know,
back in college, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Even if you are talking about your own events here
right now, what would be And you might have already
kind of teas us how already, But what would you
say is the premiere event or activity of the student
that you would choose to attend in the scale of
everything that you have going on.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So two things, I would say that Gospel Brunch is
an incredible event. It's a powerful event. It fills you
up with everything you need to get through the week,
and it's the perfect way to kick off our HBC
week events. Outside of that is the College Fair. That's
where all the magic happens. Where the students can you know,
do the high fives and screams with the acceptances on
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the spot and the scholarship awards. That room is electric
and it is a special moment to see all those
students kick off their senior year with such a morale boost.
So in September you get to go back to school
knowing you have options. So that college fair is amazing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Actually long term goals, right, So you've you know, you've
you're insuccessful. You have multiple people investing, thousands of people
drove to people kind of coming into the event. So
again back to that earlier part of the interview, like, hey,
what you've done for me lately? How do you see
this growing and moving forward? You know, two, three, five
years from now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, the goal is just to continue to expand our footprint.
I'd love to see us across the country activating HBC
week all over for students everywhere to have access to
our opportunities. Now, our applications for scholarships do open online
on Friday, September the twenty seventh, So you do not
have to be a Delaware resident, you don't have to
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be a Florida resident. You can be anywhere in the
continental United States and apply for those awards. But I'd
love to see us face to face with more students
giving them access to the opportunity. So we're going to
continue to you know, talk to these corporate partners, beat
these doors down, get these dollars for programming and scholarships,
and spread the word across the country.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I love it, and I think you know, the families
and these students you're helping are going to love you
as well too.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
So I think that's a great place to wrap.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I want to thank you so much for spreading the
word about what you have going on with HBC Week.
There's there's nobody better, nobody doing more than you are
in the in this space, and you know, I want
to wish you congratulations and kudos, you know, on a
successful path.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
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Speaker 2 (24:12):
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the dream. When the United Front, we got a home back,
a band of brothers to counter act. Then the attack
one hard in the fact. Forget what the blood say.
Dope is what flows in his fans DNA, So let's
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do it for the love, give to the Max, listen
to opinion, but react to facts and remember that together with.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
A ship, but separate just pieces of it.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Shooting dope.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It's worth closing his Stam's DNAT Dope, It's worth closing.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
His Stam's DNAT.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Family represent like a tree with names on it. We're free,
no change on it. Believe the pain's gone. I can
see we come together like questions on the quiz Mota
flowing viz man, you know what it is and if
ignorance is blity, gonna hate this lesson organized in the
like a tropical depression. My symbol list across some mic
and ghost peppers because I'm just a black shoes growing
up to be a shepherd, moon lighting as a weapon
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to protect the children. Every brother is a father.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Dynasties.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
We're building Max J and k Beabay and Isai next
level of the family foundation.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Understand me,