April 21, 2024 • 61 mins
Hosts Sonia Mansfield and Margo D. are picking out a thermos for you and dorking out about 1979’s THE JERK, starring Steve Martin and Bernadette Peters.
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In the history of motion pictures,only a select few performers have become immortalized
by the roles they have portrayed.Consider the Vamp, the Champ, the
Tramp, and now the most perfectcasting of all, Steve Martin the jerk.
It was never easy for me.I was born a poor black child.
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Meet Navan Johnson. He's poor,You mean I'm gonna stay this color
and he's eager music. Tell meto go, then praise somebody traveling down
that lonely road seeking fortune. Actsfor a live wait, kissing, take
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a chance, and wait finding famethere john even a sounds like a typical
and learning about love from a perfectmaster, making new friends. Guy no
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bag with an instinctive flair. Hehates camy. I run a camp,
but despite life's cruel twists of fate. That's why I'm spearheading the ten million
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dollar class action suit against mister Johnsonis irresponsible selling of a product he didn't
even test on prisoners. No matterhow hot the action or how great the
odds, he proved himself an inspirationto jerks everywhere. I'm gonna buy you
a diamond so big it's gonna makeyou puke. Steve Martin. That be
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somebody. He may not be perfect, but he's the only jerk we've got.
Steve Martin, the jerk Yellow,the jerk that ry Steve Martin.
Can you tell the difference? Alot of ball? I'm a jerk.
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Welcome to dorking Out. My nameis Sonia Mansfield and I'm picking out a
thermis for you. Joining me ismy podcast sing sister from another mister,
and the co host of Dorkying Out, Margot d Hello, my friend,
Hello, my friend. I havea dog named Shithead. That dog is
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really smart for a shithead. He'spretty he's pretty smart. He's the bestest
boy. We are dorking out aboutnineteen seventy Nine's The Jerk. It's directed
by Carl Reiner. It's a screenplayby Steve Martin, Carl Caleb Gleb sorry
pronounced it wrong, and Michael Ellis. And it stars, of course Steve
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Martin. Duh. Everybody knows thismovie. Bernette Peter's adorable. Everybody drink.
Nobody in the world is cuter thanBernette Peters in this movie. There's
one point where he grabs at herface and it's supposed to be funny.
And it is funny, I guess, but I'm just screaming in my head.
I'm screaming, don't touch that face. It is perfection, it is
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she's it's all just yes. Iwas like, she's a living doll in
this movie. She's well, we'regoing to talk about it. Oh.
I do want to give a shoutout to m m at Walsh as the
Madman. He's all right, payyeah, he's really really funny in this.
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I did not see this in thetheater, but maybe Margo did.
No, no, no, no, is it r It's got to be.
It's it's rated art. Now.That wouldn't have stopped my parents from
taking me to see the Jerk.But I did not see it in the
theater. I watched it on cablea lot. Same and my parents also
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had Steve Martin comedy albums like ComedyIs Not Pretty, but they you know,
on eight track. We had iton eight track, and I used
to listen to Steve Martin comedy albumsa lot, so I knew who he
was when I saw this and whenI was a kid, Like fifty percent
of the joke, there's so manyjokes in this movie. Or can we
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or are they gags? Depends onit's Carlin says, you know, yeah,
so there's I would say as akid, like fifty percent of them
land, you know, and theother ones are over my head. And
then, uh, this is probablymy first time watching this movie in like
thirty years, and it's gonna besince the eighties for me. Yeah,
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I can't even remember. It's beenso long. And there's definitely stuff that
works and there's definitely stuff that doesn'twork for me in this movie. But
same. Also, we were doingthis movie because we both watched the documentary
about Steve Martin on Apple Plus,which is really really good, and I
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just felt like this was a naturalconversation to have. So how many times
have you seen The Jerk Margo?You know? I gotta say probably not
that many. I know, Isaw it when I was on cable in
the eighties, and I know itwas like at parties and stuff. I
never I realized, like, Idon't know why, but I loved Steve
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Martin. I thought King Tut washilarious. I loved him on The Muppet
Show. Yes, I mean Ido like Steve Martin very much. I
think of him now as much moreof an intellectual. Yeah, then silly.
So when he like if this isjust all silly, it's a little
alarming because it's you know, it'sjust different than what he does. Now,
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yes, i'd say, I'll saythis, and I do overall.
I did overall laugh a few times, like belly laughs. There's some good
stuff, but uh, for aninety minute movie, it feels long.
Yes it does. There's like,why does this feel like it's a two
to two and a half hour comedy. Yeah, it does feel that way.
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And I and look, I knowbecause we got so many requests to
cover the jerk. For some people, this is like their Steve Martin,
and right, like, this isnot my Steve Martin. My Steve Martin
is actually a little after this.I loved The Man with Two Brains,
which I watched like a million timeswhen I was younger, and then and
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then after that you get into likeall of Me and la story and all
of it, and those are likekind of more my Steve Martin jam But
yeah, parenthood. Yes, Iknow that people have a lot of affection
for this movie because they grew upwatching it. They have the nostalgia glasses
for it, that's all. Andthat's okay. Yeah. I mean,
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look it's over what forty years ago? I can't do math, but it's
nineteen seventy nine. Like we haveto you do have to grade it on
a curve. Yeah, Like andhave to say, like everybody that's signed
up to do it read the script. They knew what they were getting into.
Yeah, so no one's a victim. But there's just shit you wouldn't
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say or do now, which iscomedy, Like that's it ages, you
know, you do something different.I'm sure there's stuff here he wouldn't he
would WinCE at. But they're alsolike I said, there are a few
times I just I fucking laughed outloud because it's just so there's somebody bizarre
elements here. It kind of remindsme of Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes,
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yeah, we did it better.Yeah. Pee Wee's Big Adventure has
aged very very well for me,Like it's consistent. The tone is consistent
in that movie, and I thinkfor here, you know, he's obviously
writing a love letter to his girlfriend. Yes, and she's stunning, yes
and beautiful, and like I said, why isn't she and everything? Because
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she's on Broadway all the time,Yes, but I forgot my point anyway.
Her just their scenes together are thesweetest things they are, right,
and there's this again you're talking aboutthe tone. The tone of this movie
for me is like all over theplace. First of all, it's called
The Jerk, and I was like, well, he's not really a jerk.
He's just really stupid. It's kindof like a schmuck. Yeah,
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he's a schmuck. He's really reallynaive. But his scenes with her are
like in a totally different movie thanthe rest of the movie. There's a
scene where they sing together and it'sso sweet and he's like playing as ukulele
and then she like takes a trumpetlike out of nowhere and is playing.
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It's so again adorable. Everybody drinkand they have great chemistry and it's so
sweet. And then there's just thisother stuff where he's like he's dropping that.
There's the N bomb at one point, and I'm like, oh,
why don't you go through like thebeats, like go through like what we're
Yeah, So it starts with SteveMartin is basically a homeless person who's living
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outside of a movie theater, andthe camera stops on him, and he's
like, let me tell you mystory, and he says, I was
born a poor black child, whichis made me laugh so hard when I
was a kid that as an adult, I'm like because that was one of
his bits too. Yes, yeah, yeah, so and that was another
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thing. Watching the documentary about himand then seeing this movie, you see
how much of his stand up isworked into this. This this movie is
very representative of the kind of standup com andy Steve Martin was doing at
the time. That's like, andit played arenas, Yes it was.
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He was so famous as a standup comedian. So fa, he was
a rock star. He was sofamous. It's bananas and the and the
stuff he's doing is so smart andstupid at the same time, and which
I like, Yeah, and thismovie has some smart jokes in it,
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but it's mostly stupid. That's andagain that's fine. So he says he's
grown up. You know, Iwas born a poor black child, and
he he really is. He's livingin a house in Mississippi with an all
black family, and you know,it's pretty obvious that he's adopted, but
because he's so dumb, he doesn'tknow he's adopted. And Finally they tell
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him and he cries, like,you mean, I'm gonna stay this color.
It's I love it. It's hisbirthday. And Mabel king Ripe hilarious,
Yes, comedian, she was like, what's happening and the whiz and
everything's but she's like, it's yourbirthday. I'm gonna bring your favorites.
Tune a fish sandwich on whitebread.Mannis because he's a tab he had a
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couple of toy kies and I'm likethat sounds delicious, well, but like
and they're like playing the blues andhe's like that music makes me feel sad
and like and he's like totally offkey, like he can't keep any rhythm
with the music they're playing because he'sjust so white. And he hears some
like jazz or like big band musicon the radio. In this he's able
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to keep time with and he realizesthere's a whole world out there that maybe
he would fit in. And Ilove the advice they give him as he's
getting ready to go, he's like, it's like Lord loves the working man
and don't trust whitey witch. Ye. Yeah, great advice. We should
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all get that. Like embroidered ona pillow. It works. He is
going to go to Saint Louis,he says, And for some reason,
he's wearing goggles. I don't knowwhat that's about. But okay, and
the truck that like takes him justto the end of the driveway that he
has to get another truck. It'svery silly. It's very silly. Where
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does he go first? Well,so he goes. He goes all the
way to a hotel and in themiddle of the night, a dog like
starts barking, and he takes thatis the dog is trying to warn him
about a fire. I think he'seven saying, like, I'm going to
name this dog Einstein because he's sosmart. He's warning us about a fire,
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and like it's there's no fire.And someone says to him, you
should name that dog Shithead. Sothen now he's got a dog that he
names Shithead. And Steve Barnes's character, Nathan is so dumb that he's like
the next day they show him he'scarrying the dog. He doesn't even know
how to fucking walk a dog.That's he's carrying this dog. Another truck
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picks them up. He lets thedog sit in the front he gets in
the bag and then he gets ajob at a gas station with that's Jackie
Mason, right, the owner.Yeah, and he's not doing too much
stick, which is good because hecan really lean into his stick. Let's
just say shtick. But yeah,he's funny. He runs the gas station
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and he he has a wife that'slike much younger, totally using him,
and he leaves him alone on aSunday and says, I want you know,
you've got to protect this at allcosts. And then and the racial
stereotypes are kind of like, it'sa it's a it's Hispanic men that are
in a stolen car and they're theyhave a bunch of credit cards on them
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and he and he's like, oh, I'll fill you up, okay.
And then he calls the cops andsays, hey, I got these guys.
Come over and he tries to stallthem and they're adding tires to the
order and all this shit. Andthen he's like, he goes keep the
way back with the cops on thephone. I forget this And this cracks
me up so hard. He's like, do you want to of admit?
You get anove admit forgetting your car? So he goes in and they realized
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that the gig is up, youknow, they can checket something. I
gotta go, but he had tiedthem to a building their car and they
start dragging out. It's this churchin the middle of the wedding cir so
it rips apart a church. Andthen he's just funny. He's describing the
card to the police and he's like, it's like a blue you know,
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sidan, you know whatever he's describing. He's like, also, it's pulling
half of a church. Maybe leadwith that. It's like, yeah,
it's just so dumb. And there'salso a whole thing where like So then
he meets a customer who's constantly liketrying to put his glasses on, and
his glasses just keeps sliding down hisface, and he fixes the glasses for
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him by like putting this little handleon the glasses and like it like sits
on the bridge of your nose andlike steadies your glasses on your face.
And the guy's like, I'm gonnasell this shit, and now I'm going
to give you half the profits.And he's like, whatever you do you
So that character's gone for like agood half hour. Forty five minutes,
right, But that's when we getthe oh my god, the new phone
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book is here. The phone book'shere, and he's so excited that he
exists because he has his name inthe phone book, which is a thing
kids, you could look it upa Wikipedia. And then at Walsh like
just taking that foot book and justpooh popping with his figure, just randomly
picking him with the gun. Ohgod, that made me laugh. That
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was like there's some really genuine yeah. This this part makes me laugh because
it's like he's like I am somebodynow, like I'm in the phone book,
like I'm in print. Things aregonna start happening to me now.
And then it cuts to m Mat Walsh like picking his name at random
out of a book and he's like, I'm you know, I'm gonna kill
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this random guy and the things he'syelling while he's trying to kill him too,
like you regular old schmo, I'llkill you, Like that's no reason
to kill him. But we getthe like he's sitting up in a hill
with his gun, his sniper riflewhatever, and he's shooting at Navan,
and Navan is standing by these oilcans and he's like, these cans are
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defective. Then it's he hates thesecans, which I think is probably one
of the more famous lines from thismovie. It's he is too again,
so dumb. He doesn't realize thatthis person's trying to kill him, that
he doesn't want to just shoot cansbecause he's so dumb. He gets his
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dog shit head and runs away.I did laugh at this part too.
And he drives onto a lot whereit says carnival personnel only, and the
sign alone is enough to keep mmat Walsh away because he's like, he's
not carbinal, he's not carnival personnel, like get him. And now he's
joined the circus, so no,no more gas station. He's working at
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the circus. He's a weight guesser. And he meets this woman who like
drives a motorcycle through like fire throughlike flaming hoops, and that is Caitlin
Adams, who apparently is the foundingmember of the ground Leans. Really,
yeah I did not know this.I didn't know that either. Yeah.
Wow, she's hilarious. Yeah she'sfunny as shit. Yeah she's really really
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funny and like she's she'll fuck anybodyat the circus basically is what it is.
And she's like, he's my nextperson. So she like feels him
up. She's like living in atrailer that's a total dump or whatever,
and like she starts fondling him andgrabbing him, and he's like, what's
happening to my special purpose which iswhat he calls his dick, my special
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purpose? And they began, likethey begin hooking up, but they never
kiss, apparently that's she's like.And he writes a letter to his parents
about it, and he's like,I found my special place with somebody and
then reads it. It lash becausenow she's gonna give me a blowjob.
Anyway, here's two dollars and Isaid, He's all, I'm gonna start
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earning some extra money because she's gonnagive me a blow job. He's so
stupid. Again, by the way, that joke totally over my head.
When I was like nine years old, I was like, I wonder what
a blue job is. Well,they'red bitterer. I didn't know. Then
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he's like run. He's like operatingthe little train and that train ride and
that when he meets Marie and that'sBernadette Peters again. The cutest fucking thing.
I just I mean that that likeno poor free skin. Yeah,
like just just glowing. It's likethere's a halo around her. A porcelain
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doll. She is just a doll. She's got the cute little heart sunglasses
on. I want those sunglasses.I know, they're so cute. I'm
gonna get them in prescription. Anduh, like he asked her to.
He asks her on a date andthey get a cup of pizza. Okay,
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this is the best cup of pizza. You put the other cup of
pizza place out of business, andfor some reason he licks her face instead
of kisses her. I don't knowwhat that's about, really, but she's
really into him, Like, nomatter how stupid, let me say this,
he's so cute. I mean SteveMartin was. I mean, he
did not realize that. When Iwas a kid, I was just like
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he was a wild and crazy guy. He was goofy, he was funny,
he was silly. I'm like,I look at him now, yes,
and I'm look at him. He'slike thirty years old, thirty five.
Maybe I don't know, but I'mlike I would hit that. I
mean, yeah, he can haveall of this yes he can have all
don't want it, but he canhave it. He It's so interesting because
first of all, he looked oldereven when he was younger because he had
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the premature gray hair, premature dyedit, yeah, and then he would
die it when he was like I'mgoing to play serious roles, then he
would like dye his hair or whatever. But like, yeah, as a
kid, I was like, whatever, he's wild and crazy guy. And
then by the time I really likeSteve Martin, he was making things like
La Story and Parenthood, and Iwas, well, he's too old for
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me. And now I look backat those like wild and crazy guys and
I'm like, oh, hello,hi, Yes, yeah, he's hot.
Yeah, So no matter how strangehe behaves in this movie though,
like she's into him and it's veryand then they get this very sweet scene
where they sing like tonight you belongto me, and he's got his little
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ukulele and she's got her I wrotecoronet because they call it a coronet,
but I was like, isn't thata trumpet? I don't know what the
difference is. But but they fallin love and they're like living together and
they're so cute and he wants tomarry her, and that's where he sings
his thermist song that I still singall the time. Again, haven't seen
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this movie in like thirty years,and I sing it all the time to
my kid, to the dogs.I'm picking out a thermis for Max,
no ordinary thermis for Max, andMax is like, not thermis. But
before he can, she leaves himbecause she's afraid that like he can't provide
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for her, you know, hedoesn't make any money. And she's like
singing along with him and crying andshe's beautiful. Well then oh, he
goes to chase after her, buthe's naked, and he like uses the
dogs the covers jump and made melaugh too, and picks up a neighbor's
dog to cover the back. Andthen he decided he's leaving the circus at
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this point, and I love thathe's like okay, shithead, like you
need to just let me go,and Shithead's like cool, see you later,
piece and he's like yeah, andhe's like no, no, you
have to come with me, andhe's like dragging the dog like come with
me. It cracks me up.Then what happens, Oh, then he
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finds out that he the man hemet at the gas station has taken his
little invention on the glasses. Hecalls it the OPTI Grab, and he
gives him like a shit ton ofmoney. He's super rich. Now.
I love how he goes into thebank and he gives a cashier's check and
he sits for two fifty thanks's twohundred and fifty dollars. Yes, he's
all, like, I would itall? What's yes? Oh, sit
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down, stir. It's two hundredand fifty thousand dollars, which in nineteen
seventy nine was our shitload of money. Yes, a ton of money.
And everyone is wearing these opti grabthings from that point on, like anyone
who's wearing glasses has this stupid fuckinghandle on their glasses. As someone who
wears glasses, I would never Imean maybe if it was like bejeweled or
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something, but no, yeah,they used to really. I remember my
dad had a little foamy things.Yes, because they used to be very
uncomfortable to wear. Yes, allday, absolutely, and like they they
still are to a certain point.But I mean, I'm I'm a contact
lens gal. I am that weare the opposite. We're the opposite.
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Yes, so they are now andhe finds Marie and they are like,
he's he's super rich. But Andy, he wants to show up how rich
he is, so he gets thislike ridiculous car. He's wearing a stupid
hat with the huge with a hugefeather like and the dog now has a
little hat with feathers too, andthe sunglasses. The dog's wearing sunglasses in
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the hat. It's so cute.The dog should have been nominated for Best
Supporting Actor, Like yeah, likehe he's he's delightful. He or she
is delightful. He could make aMary They are delightful. They I'm I'm
sure, I'm gonna pretend that dogis still alive and it could make a
buddy comedy with the dog from Anatomyof the Fall, and I would watch
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it yes back when dogs could bestars like Benji or Lassie. Really old
your ask your great grandparents. Sothey get married, Marie and Navian,
and again they have a ridiculously uhextravage in life. They they have like
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wine, like I love. He'slike, let's get some fresh wine.
Let's splurge. And the whole thingabout their snails on her plate made me
laugh too. When they go tothe restaurant and she's like, He's like,
don't look, don't look at it, And she's terrified because there's snails
on her plate, even though that'swhat she ordered the idea of fresh wine.
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What else. Just the house ismassive, way too big for these
like two people. It's it's amansion that's been featured in a bunch of
movies. Yes, but yeah,it's it's pretty amazing, like the Three
Pools and the Eight describes it ingreat detail to his family. He's constantly
writing back to his family and sendingthem money. Yes on his yeah,
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on his adventures. And then theyhave a disco party, which I was
like, I would totally go tothat. I would sounds like fun.
And she dances, and by theway, and again she's beautiful and like
her dancing's really good. And Ijust wrote in my notes, and Steve
Martin is there, like he didn'treally, although he he dances a lot
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at the end, but yeah,I know he has, he's got some
rhythm at the end. Yes,But she they then he's gonna be on
television to be interviewed for some reason, so they make the whole party sit
on the floor and watch the TV. And then it turns out that the
thing that he invented makes people gocross eyde and that's where you have Carl
Reiiner plain him thinking it's oh doingeyeball work, that's like amazing, but
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it makes people cross eye. Sohe's being sued for ten million dollars,
so he's out of business, youknow, he's he's he's got a yeah,
writing the stack of checks. He'swriting out like ten million checks for
like one dollar and nine cents orsomething like that. There's also the scene
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where Carl Reiner's like, here's like, look what happened because my vision was
impaired, and he's like, Idon't yell cut in time and we see
this car like right clip and thenhe's and then as the car's exploding,
he's like cut so awful, soawful. And yeah, he's he's drinking.
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He's writing out his like ten millionchecks to people. And by the
way, everyone in the court alsocross eyed. Now at this point they've
all had opti grabs, Like thewhole jury's cross eye, the judge's cross
side, and that's why he's foundguilty. And he's writing out his checks.
He gets into a fight with Marieand she's just like, I don't
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care about any of this stuff.Who cares? And he's like, I'm
leaving, and we get the Idon't need anything except this ashtray in this
paddle game. That whole seed,Like when I was younger, I thought
was the most hilarious, damp thing. I mean, like now, I'm
like, we get that so oftenin comedy. Now, yeah, they
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just you know this and family guideeverything. It's like it used to be
comedy was like the rule of threesand then it became like fives and tens,
like everybody just like so much.But his pants are around his ankles
for some reason, and it's inthe posters, so you got it,
Like I'm like, why is hejust but he's but he's walking around Beverly
Hills with his pants around his ankles, of filthy bathrobe. He's now going
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to be homeless again, out unhoused. However, we say it doesn't have
a home, and he's going tohis spot and that's when his family comes
and rescues him. And it turnsout they were investing in things when he
sent them money that actually made moneythat were not his thing. Right,
and they they say, you know, look, come home with that we
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were we lost our house, butwe're gonna build one just like it.
And and he and he and Mariemoved to this house. So it's just
like that shack, but they haveit, I guess in Beverly Hill,
just a little bigger. And thenthey're playing the banjo and they're dancing and
he's doing and they're all living happilyever after. Yes the end, even
Shitthead is there. Even Shithead hasa place in their home. And it
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makes it sound because it makes I'mtelling you, there's parts of this movie
where it's like the comedy drags.Yeah, And I think like this whole
concept, I say, is perfectedwith Pee's Big Adventure. Yes, I
think it's it's but I think likeit's seventy nine, and you know it's
I think it's his first movie,isn't. I think I think it is
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too. Yeah, I mean itwas his first starring role for sure,
and it made a shitload of money. It was very popular. It made
Guy one hundred million dollars, whichis huge. Four million, Yeah,
and it was a four million dollarbudget. And we could both tell you
like every dude tried to walk aroundwith the arrow through the head thing like
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that was like he was very mucha part of the culture. He was
a big deal. Yes, Iseeing the documentary and watching the movie made
me appreciate the movie. I actuallydon't know if I would have liked the
movie as much now if I hadn'twatched the documentary right before this, because
I see so much of his standup in here, and I was like,
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I see what he's doing. He'stransitioning from stand up to movies and
this is like a natural progression here. And then after that you get things
like The Man with Two Brains andall of Me and all of that.
But like, I don't know.I mean, they are parts of the
movie that are cute, and there'sparts that made me laugh, but it's
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not something where I'm like, Ican't wait to watch the Jerk again.
Yeah, because it's just not forme. And that's, by the way.
There's also people that like, love, love, love Caddy Shack,
And that's another one where I'm like, that's yeah it's Caddy Shack. Say
I like Caddy Shacks. Yeah,yeah, but a bit. Yeah,
we all have our different taste.I mean, I think it's it's to
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me, like, if you're aSteve Martin complete is definitely check it out.
Oh yeah, Carl Reiner is alwaysfun, It's got great guest stars.
It's you know, it's just it'sa little uneven for me. Yes,
what is your favorite Steve Martin?I really like Parenthood too. I
love he does everything in that movie. He did a whole Yes, yeah,
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I know. And it's like it's, oh, it's cheesy, it's
Ron Howard. I'm like, Idon't give a shit. I like cheesy
Ron Howard. It's it's it's gotheart and I care about them and I
an La story. We definitely needto do one day. I haven't visited
that in a while, but thatone always made me laugh. I loved
it. I loved Rock Sand RockSane is amazing and it holds up.
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And he is so funny in Allof Me, Like the physical comedy that
he does in All of Me ispretty pretty impressive. Like he's he's great.
He's just such a treasure. Andif you haven't seen the documentary,
do it definitely. And if you'veif you're interested in Steve Martin, he
wrote a book called Born Standing Upwhich is kind of just his life story.
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And he goes really into detail abouthow he structured his comedy and how
he worked on his comedy Chops,and how he got it all together,
and like he's a very hard worker. He has somebody who really he puts
so much thought into what he's doing. And I like highlighted passages from that
book because I was when it cameout. I was teaching for the first
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time, and teaching and performing arethe same thing, Like you're trying to
engage in audience. I thought someof his advice was so helpful. That's
interesting. Yeah, I made copiesand I said it to friends, like
you really need to read this,Like, and his story is fascinating,
Like he was working at Disneyland,who's like twelve, Yeah, he's a
kid. Yeah, and he andhis father weren't very close. And he's
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also like one of the best banjoplayers. Like everyone says that his his
level with of ability with that islike off the charts. And he's interesting.
I mean, he's his relationships areinteresting. The women that he's been
involved with, you know, he'she's uh. I could see why he
gets like really classy dames, likereally because I get it. Yeah,
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I totally get it, and I'veI have listened to a lot of his
music. He did a lot ofHe did some albums with Edie Brikel that
I love and bluegrass, and hedid a musical with her as well,
and it was called Bright Star andit played here in San Francisco. I
went and saw it. I lovedit. It wasn't like a big hit
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here in ess of but I Iloved it and thought the music was so
great. And I have a Iremember a story Sarah. Sarah Silverman was
being interviewed on Howard Stern and shewas talking about how brilliant Steve Martin is
and she's like, I was ata dinner in the Hamptons and it was
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at Louren Michael's house, and Iwas sitting with Steve Martin and his wife
is like a New Yorker editor,Like yeah, She's like, I was
very intimidated, and Lauren could tell, and Lauren's kind of pretentious. But
he says, Sarah, don't beintimidated by this man. When I first
took him out for a meal,he didn't know what persudo was, and
he said, just right away,Steve looked her and says, now,
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I drive one, which is fuckingthat kind of mind is like so impressive.
The banter with him and Martin Shortin the second part of the documentary,
like Martin Short is just always hangingout with him. They're just always
together and writing together. The waythey talk to each other, it is
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so funny, Like he's just anaturally funny person. Yeah, and it's
just so smart. Yeah, likehe's super super intelligent, which is hot,
yes, so hot, but justso quick and clever. I was
like, oh my god, Iwould drop my drawers like just like that's
now I drive one. Jesus Christ, that's funny. Funny dude. Hot,
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take everybody hot much. It isa funny dude. Uh Yeah,
I love I read a lot.I read his books. I read Pure
Drivel, which made me laugh outloud. I read Shopgirl when it came
out. Yeah. I've just I'vealways been a Steve Martin girly so but
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this one is again huge fans andthere's classic stuff in here. It's just
not my go to Steve Martin now. I mean, it's just the racial
stuff is it doesn't age well.We didn't even mention the part where I
used the N word. Yeah,and he's using it in a righteous way
for nineteen seventy nine, like he'sbeating up racist. Yes, but you
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still can't you know, it's stillit's and some of this and just some
of the stick. It's I didlike it when so she's a cosmetologist,
Marie, and she puts this greencrap on people's faces and it's all men.
This guy that's getting this bask yes, and uh, I'm forgetting the
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word now. But like she's like, Okay, I'm gonna take this mask
off. It's good. Twenty yearsyounger and his wife is it's a Yiddish
where, which just means like withGod's help, there's there's just little but
like I didn't know that as akid. Now I've lived in Brooklyn forever,
I'm like, oh, I getit. Okay, it's it's really
it's there's but still if you're completestor you're just curious, check it out.
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But just understand there's like some stufflike edgy comedy never age as well.
It's just you know, right,it's inappropriate. You laugh at the
time, and then later on you'relike, okay, that's just yeah,
there's a lot. There's a lotof stick in this movie, and your
mileage may vary. That's a betterway of putting it. It's just like
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we did a whole episode on Airplane, Like, if you don't like that
joke, wait five seconds. You'llget another one, and maybe that one
will work for you. I gaveup the wrong week for sniffing Goode.
That one always works. Do youwant to hear the top ten movies of
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nineteen seventy nine? Goddamn right?I do, okay? Number ten The
Muppet Movie, the best movie.I love the Muppet Movie. Steve Martin
is in The Muppet Movie too.He's the waiter that brings them their fine
wine from Oregon. I meet peopleevery once in a while that aren't it
to the Muppets, and I'm justlike, you're a fucking monster if they're
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around my age, if you're genX, you know, like the Muppets
I hate, don't. I don'tunderstand that. Yeah, you just you're
allergic to joy. Yeah. Iwatched that movie countless times with Calvin and
there's always something, always something tolaugh at in that movie. Always.
Number nine Moonraker, Yeah, that'sa good one. I'm like, that's
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chee. It's I like James Bondmovies. Yeah, me too, and
this one is very cheesy James.Yeah, you graded on a curve like
exactly. Number eight is the Jerkyep, just talked about it. Then
we have the movie ten that mightbe one where we should definitely cover this
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one sometime because this is talk abouta juggernaut, y'all. They tried to
make Dudley Moore a sex symbol.I'm like, kind of worked, not
for me, but that's okay toeach the room, Okay, Apocalypse now,
never heard of it. Yeah,it's a rump after I saw The
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Jerk. Now what a great doublefeature alien fantastic dope. That's a dope
movie. I love that whole series. Yeah, Star Trek the motion picture
first one. Yes, not asdope. No, it's fine, it's
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it's it looks great. It's reallyslow, really really slow. Is it
like every other one that's the goodone? Even ones or something like that.
There's some kind of rule with Yeah, well, wath of Con is
great, Yes it is, andwe did a whole The fifth one is,
and the fifth one is amazing.I'm a defender of actually pretty much
all the Star Treks except for thefirst one. Yeah, the first one
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is just it again, looks great, just really slow. Okay. A
couple more movies, Rocky two,Yeah, a spoiler, he wins that
one. Number two Amityville Horror.You know, I actually remember talking with
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my dad and saying, like,you know, that whole thing was you
know, made up because they haddead and blah blah blah. It looks
to me like you thought that shitwas real. Like he was so disgusted.
But how dumb. I'm a kid. I must be adopted or exactly
what the talking pig and the thatshit what? I don't even I know
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I've seen Amityville Horror, but Ilook like Margo kidder by the way.
Well that's a huge compliment because she'sjust bad. Yeah, well and you're
brad, so duh. I haven'tseen that movie since like the eighties.
But I don't know if you knowthis, Margo, but it's not a
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true story. No. And thenumber one, this blows my mind.
The number one movie of nineteen seventynine is Kramer Versus Kramer. Are you
fucking kidding? I am not kiddingyou you all, I got it made
over one hundred million dollars. Itis the number one movie this like adult
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drama about divorce? Was that anumber fucking bummer? The big like who
was like, hey man, yougotta go see Kramer versus Kramer, Like
I'm gonna run out and see Kramerversus Kramer, Like hey, date night,
Like yeah, right, at leastthat's not us, you know who?
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Like I mean, I know,like divorce was becoming more and more
common, and like maybe it clickedfor people because there weren't movies like this,
but an adult drama like this wouldnever be the number one movie.
Now, this would never happen.No, do you want to hear the
top ten songs for that week?I can't wait? Okay, so this
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nineteen seventy August, right, that'swhen The Jerk came out. Okay,
so it's number ten Take the LongWay Home, super Tramp. Still love
that song. Yeh, that's agood one. Sorry, my phone is
being an asshole. Number nine HeartacheTonight by the Eagles. I love the
Eagles, Love same. Number eightThe Captain and to Neil do that to
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me one more time? I wassuper the Captain and to Neil Super into
the Captain and to Neil, Iwas, I love rock YEP. Number
seven JD. Souther You're Only Lonely. I don't know that song. I
bet if I heard it, I'dbe like you you know it's number six.
Oh, this song is so fuckingdope. Barber Streisan Donna Summer,
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No More Tears, Enough is Enough, Yep, that song's fucking dope.
It is, uh. Number fiveStevie Wonder, Send one Your Love.
That's not my favorite Stevie Wonder.Yeah. Number four, this song you
can't fucking Escape. It's Rupert HolmesEscape, the song about cheating. When
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I was younger, I love thatsong. And then you listen to and
as an adult and you're like theywere gonna cheat on each other. You
still it puts you in a mood. Man. It's a yacht rock song.
Yeah. Number three Casey in theSunshine Band, Please Don't Go.
I was, I was totally into. I loved Casey's great I saw him
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like twenty years ago. It wasit was a fantastic show. That's awesome.
Number two The Commodore. Still.I love Lionel Richie. It's a
it's a it's a ballad. It'sa go really, Oh I know,
okay, yes, yes, Iknow, and talking about yacht rock son
yeah number one Sticks. Babe,babe, I'm leaving you today. I
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was I like that song too.I love yacht rock y'all. I listened
to that yacht rock station on Seriousexem all the time, love that.
I had a friend obsessed with thesong with the album Paradise Theater, Like
every time she came over she broughtthat album with her. I'm like,
oh fuck, not this again.But oh my god, my sister and
(44:20):
I when we were living together asadults, I mean not like sharing a
room as a kid, we boughtlike the best of Sticks, like a
CD, and we used to listento it all the time. We're talking
about in the two thousands, we'velike rediscovered Sticks. We were all in.
They were great. Yeah, misterRoboto, too much time on my
(44:40):
her. I got to yeah,that's a good song. That one is
so good. What else are youdorkying out about? My friend? I
was late for this call with you, Like all of a sudden, you
popped up on my phone like,oh shit, I gotta record a Sonia
because the Peacock Network is just puttingout all these old Bravo shows. And
it's because the Housewives, Like we'reall waiting for Salt Lake City to come
(45:06):
back in New Jersey. Like there'skind of a lull right now. I'm
just not into summerhouse. You likethe vander Pump and I'm val I'm currently
obsessed with vander Pump Rules. ButI loved the Housewives. And they had
one season in DC and it wasthatshit crazy and it's twenty ten, and
(45:27):
so it had one season. Andthere's this couple, Tarik and Mikaela and
I for Salahi, and there's there'slike five women and it's this tall,
thin blonde woman and her husband andthey are constantly crashing parties. And this
is when Obama's in the White House. They went to remember this, Yes,
they went to the Black Caucus likeit's a big deal, but they
(45:51):
like brought friends with them and thenthey would sneak into places and then go
around and try to find seats.They there's a picture of them, famous
picture of them like shaking hands withPresident Obama. Like they got right past
securities. I remember this now.These people are fucking insane, Like there's
a he has a winery and heand his mother were suing each other to
(46:14):
run the winery, and they inviteeverybody to come over, and then he's
telling them you his mother had senta press corps to follow them because she
knew they were on Real Housewives becauseshe's trying to serve in papers or something.
So he hired security for this wineryin the middle of Virginia, like
not, nothing's going on, andthey had to go in a back entrance.
(46:36):
It was just bananas. And thenhe gets really waste and then accuses
one of the women of her hither daughter, stealing his car in all
of his polo equipment and going onand on about the fbis in on it
equipment. Yes, so he's meanand crazy, and she once again,
tall, thin, blonde like sheows just like defending him. She said
(47:00):
that she was a cheerleader for theDC football team, which used to be
called something else. It's called theWashington Senators now m hm. She shows
up at a get together a formercheerleader. She finds out they're having a
get together and they're gonna go onthe field, so she just gets an
outfit and runs out there and startshugging people like crazy. She never was
a cheerleader. She was never acheerleader. She's running up to the hey
(47:23):
girl, how you doing? Ohmy god, and she obviously can't cheer,
like they're teaching you a choreography.She just no idea what she's doing.
This woman is this like throughout theshow. And then they have two
so it's like twelve episodes. Andthen they have a reunion. It's only
like two parts. Her husband's stalkingthe reunion. They won't let him in.
(47:45):
Annie is trying to ask her like, were you a cheerleader or not?
And she keeps avoiding the question.Oh my god, this sounds really
good, so it's awesome. Andthen a few months later, maybe a
year later, half the couples aredivorced and or three quarters, but this
couple they get she escapes from him. She tells this guy Eric, I'm
(48:07):
gonna go visit my mother. She'ssick, so i'll see in a few
days. So he calls the motherwhen he doesn't hear from her and his
mother and her mother's like, Idon't know what you're talking about. I'm
fine. I haven't talked to herin weeks. Turns out she used to
have a fling with Neil shown ofJourney the guitars for Journey. He turns
(48:29):
out he's hoiled a candle for herall these years. Yes, he helps
her escape, they get married,and then she puts it on video on
demand to make money from that,and now she's with this multimillionaire rock star.
Bananas. It's Bananas. And everybodysaid, like they couldn't get a
(48:53):
second season because these people were justI'm like, everyone's begging for it because
they were all of them are nuttierthan fruitcakes and just there because it's their
first season. They're trying really hard, like they don't have a personality yet,
and that's always kind of fun.And anyway, like it absorbed like
two hours of my time. You'reway more than the jerk I was weird,
(49:15):
But I I'm not ruining anything,y'all. I mean, honestly,
if you need like just brain candy, just like something really dumb, it's
their story is wackado. It's it'sunbelievable anyway. Okay, So also Manhunt
that just finished really good. TaylorSwift's album dropped really great. I'm I'm
(49:42):
enjoying it when listening. Do youhave a favorite so far is it bad
down or down bad? Yeah,I want to say it's I think it's
I think it's down bad. Andthen so long London. Okay. I
like the one she does about Ido it with a broken heart. Yes,
that's right. Oh I can doit with a broken heart. Yeah.
(50:06):
I'm like, it's super eighty soundingand I live it so felt that
song in my soul. She's She'sgreat. And then one more thing to
recommend. I think I talked aboutthis on one to creep. But Chelsea
Davantes has a she does celebrity memoirs, usually just women's memoirs. It's a
show called Glamorous Trash Oh yeah,yeah, and she talks about pop culture
(50:30):
and stuff like that. And sherecently her most recent episode, she has
Delta Burke. Oh it's not donean interview in many years. But she
was telling her that ninety eight DeltaBurke put out a memoir and she said,
like, I was a teenager andI read your memoir and it really
changed my life. You were AndDelta Burke just writes about how shitty she
(50:52):
was treated by the media because shedared to get fat, like they were
so offensive awful to her. Awful, awful, and you just listening to
her, she just sounds like avery sweet, kind of fragile person.
And then Gerald McCraney is her husband. Yeah, and they're still together thirty
(51:14):
five years. That's amazing. Hewould defend her, like to the Yeah,
he's in on the interview like heshit's a zoom call, and he
like every once in a while justchimes in and like just to encourage her,
like oh remember this, remember that. And she said, he's the
one person I've got. I gotchoked up because she's the only one.
Like even my parents didn't love methis much. Like he really believes in
(51:35):
me. I know, I know, and it's like I don't know.
It really just gave me the feels. And anyway, that's it. That's
a good one. That's a goodwreck. I have two movie wrecks.
I went to the theater and Isaw Monkey Man, which is the new
action movie starring Death the Tale frompeople might know him from slum Dog Million
(52:00):
Air or he was in the Newsroomwhich I didn't watch Lion with Nicole Kidman.
He was really really good in thatthis. If you like John Wick
movies, you will like Monkey Man. It's basically John Wick. It's Indian
john Wick. It's I don't thinkit's trying to pretend that it isn't.
(52:20):
It is right, like he issomeone who you know as a child this
like gang murdered his mother. I'mnot spoiling anything. It's right in the
trailer. And he grows up andhe's an amazing fighter and he wants to
get revenge. It's it's really gory. It's really really good and he's he's
(52:43):
really good at he's he's a starto me, like, oh yeah no,
and I like, uh, Ilove revenge movie. Yeah. He
and he's he's very handsome, likehe's so he's aged very well, he's
very very handsome. He it's veryentertaining movie. I was super into it.
(53:04):
Again, I like the john Wickmovies. This is very much that
so I recommend. And then lastnight it's streaming now on shutter I watch
Late Night with the Double. Haveyou seen previews for this one? I've
heard about it, but I don'tknow what it's about. Okay, So
it's the idea is is that themovie is the last episode of this talk
(53:27):
show from the seventies, kind ofa Johnny Carson style. They referenced Johnny
Carson a lot, like this personis competing with Johnny Carson. He has
a talk show called night Owls,and this whole thing is representative of the
last episode of the show. Soit's like what's in front of the camera,
and then the things they're filming likebehind the scenes. And it's a
(53:50):
Halloween show and he is trying itsweeps week. He's trying to like get
the ratings. So he has somebodycome on who can like commune with the
dead. He has a girl whocomes on who can speaks to a demon,
like all these things and scary thingsin Sue, I don't want to
spoil spoil it. Yeah, I'mnot gonna spoil anything for anybody. First
(54:14):
of all, I think the settotally looks like those seventies talk shows that
like your your Dick Cavits and YourDiana Shore and like MERV Griffith, like
all that stuff. It totally lookslike that stuff. I don't think it
sticks the landing, But up untilthat point I was all in. I
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thought it was super entertaining, andit's on shutter streaming. It was just
it was in the theater as oflast week and now it's already on shutter,
so if you have it, Ithink it's worth watching again. I
will be curious what people think ofthe ending, but I think it's very
entertaining. I've also been listening tothe Taylor Swift album. Yeah, just
(54:58):
like you. I'm literally a thirtyminutes away from finishing Ripley. It's great,
it's beautiful. I watched the SteveMartin documentary, which is amazing,
and I know I watched another one. What was the other thing I watched?
Shame on Me something? Oh,the Jinx Too is starting well,
(55:24):
if you're listening to this episode whenit drops, it's tonight. The sequel
to the Robert Durst documentary that wason HBO Max is coming out this week.
So I just finished the Robert DurstDocumentary Part one and it's still fucking
creepy. What a weird. It'sso good, it's so good. It's
(55:47):
just so good. So I'm excitedto watch the next one. And oh,
oh my god, I forgot totell you this. I Lexi,
the host of Schooled by Cinema,has asked me to come on her podcast
and talk about Pixar movies. Ohawesome. I will be promoting that when
(56:13):
it drops. I think I'm recordingnext week sometimes, so it would come
out sometime in May, but I'lldefinitely mention it here. Uh when that
happens. I'm so I'm going tobe watching a bunch of Pixar movies over
the next couple of weeks. Oh. I was a guest on a podcast
too, Tell it's on. It'scalled Fixing Famous People. Yes, I'm
gonna I'm gonna be talking about AnneHathaway. Oh my god. Okay,
(56:37):
but I don't know when it's goingto drop. Okay. So they have
their they call it the prefix,where they talk about stuff in the news
and then they have a celebrity thatthey fix. And so we talked about
Anne Hathaway. So check Fixing FamousPeople and I will be on there.
Well, thank you for the headsup. I will definitely be listening.
Abby. Uh. Oh, Iknow what I was going to say.
(57:01):
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handle for Instagram and threads. Idon't really do Blue Sky, sorry.
And then I'm at Brooklyn Margo forTikTok and for Twitter, but I don't
(58:05):
Twitter. Let's just call it thatfrom now on Twitter. I think that's
a Julie Klausner thing. It justpopped in my head because that's how she
founds a Twitter. All right,I'm into it. That's all it is.
Everything else is It's That's all itis to me. Now. Oh,
did you hear by the way thatTesla had to recall all those I've
seen some here in San Francisco.They're so fucking ugly. They are so
(58:30):
ugly. I can't believe that peopleproudly drive them around, Like, how
embarrassing for you. Yeah, Tesla'smakes sense to me, Like that one
does not make any sense to me. I actually wrote a Tesla. It
was a It was an uber thatwas ta Yeah, I've been Yeah,
(58:52):
I get it. This is kindof cool. Yeah, they're nice.
You know, people want to saveon gas. I get it. It
makes sense to me. Yeah,I love people get bumper stickers. That
says I got this car before Iknew Elon was an asshole. Basically,
I see a lot of those inSan Francisco. But yeah, I saw
some of the ugly armored whatever thefuck those things are. Don't buy one
(59:15):
because the glue the the accelerator likeit gets stuck. So I'm sorry.
But I'm also like this whole thingof like you have to download a program
to work your car. No,I think there's something really fucked up about
that. That's just my tinfoil hat. You are not a tinfoil hat person.
(59:39):
Elon Musk is a tinfoil hat person, and he's crazy. So the
lastictly thing he would he would takea thing like in real genius, Like
he would just like put a laserto take me out. Yeah, I
honestly think that. Yeah, yeahhe would not. I don't have a
car barely, even if I havea driver's license anymore. To be honest
(01:00:00):
with y'all, I live in NewYork. I don't need it. You
don't need it. People don't drivein New York. No. But he's
like, the less things I havethat tie me to that weirdo, the
better. Yeah. Like I alreadyhave twit tear. That's good enough.
You could find me at the SonyaShow dot com and the Sonya Show on
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(01:00:23):
and if you like the sound ofour voices. We also co host
a podcast called What a Creep,where we talk about creeps of the past
the present. We end every episodewith someone who's not a creep. Who's
our creep? This week, Margo, it's Mark Cherry and we're talking about
Desperate Housewives and all the creepy shitthat happened when that show was on the
air. Yeah, it was.It's a good one. Good pick.
(01:00:45):
Margo. Thank you, thank youso much for talking about the jerk with
me, I'm picking out a thermisfor you. Aw
In the history of motion pictures,only a select few performers have become immortalized
by the roles they have portrayed.Consider the Vamp, the Champ, the
Tramp, and now the most perfectcasting of all, Steve Martin the jerk.
It was never easy for me.I was born a poor black child.
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and he's eager music. Tell meto go, then praise somebody traveling down
that lonely road seeking fortune. Actsfor a live wait, kissing, take
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a chance, and wait finding famethere john even a sounds like a typical
and learning about love from a perfectmaster, making new friends. Guy no
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bag with an instinctive flair. Hehates camy. I run a camp,
but despite life's cruel twists of fate. That's why I'm spearheading the ten million
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dollar class action suit against mister Johnsonis irresponsible selling of a product he didn't
even test on prisoners. No matterhow hot the action or how great the
odds, he proved himself an inspirationto jerks everywhere. I'm gonna buy you
a diamond so big it's gonna makeyou puke. Steve Martin. That be
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somebody. He may not be perfect, but he's the only jerk we've got.
Steve Martin, the jerk Yellow,the jerk that ry Steve Martin.
Can you tell the difference? Alot of ball? I'm a jerk.
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Welcome to dorking Out. My nameis Sonia Mansfield and I'm picking out a
thermis for you. Joining me ismy podcast sing sister from another mister,
and the co host of Dorkying Out, Margot d Hello, my friend,
Hello, my friend. I havea dog named Shithead. That dog is
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really smart for a shithead. He'spretty he's pretty smart. He's the bestest
boy. We are dorking out aboutnineteen seventy Nine's The Jerk. It's directed
by Carl Reiner. It's a screenplayby Steve Martin, Carl Caleb Gleb sorry
pronounced it wrong, and Michael Ellis. And it stars, of course Steve
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Martin. Duh. Everybody knows thismovie. Bernette Peter's adorable. Everybody drink.
Nobody in the world is cuter thanBernette Peters in this movie. There's
one point where he grabs at herface and it's supposed to be funny.
And it is funny, I guess, but I'm just screaming in my head.
I'm screaming, don't touch that face. It is perfection, it is
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she's it's all just yes. Iwas like, she's a living doll in
this movie. She's well, we'regoing to talk about it. Oh.
I do want to give a shoutout to m m at Walsh as the
Madman. He's all right, payyeah, he's really really funny in this.
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I did not see this in thetheater, but maybe Margo did.
No, no, no, no, is it r It's got to be.
It's it's rated art. Now.That wouldn't have stopped my parents from
taking me to see the Jerk.But I did not see it in the
theater. I watched it on cablea lot. Same and my parents also
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had Steve Martin comedy albums like ComedyIs Not Pretty, but they you know,
on eight track. We had iton eight track, and I used
to listen to Steve Martin comedy albumsa lot, so I knew who he
was when I saw this and whenI was a kid, Like fifty percent
of the joke, there's so manyjokes in this movie. Or can we
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or are they gags? Depends onit's Carlin says, you know, yeah,
so there's I would say as akid, like fifty percent of them
land, you know, and theother ones are over my head. And
then, uh, this is probablymy first time watching this movie in like
thirty years, and it's gonna besince the eighties for me. Yeah,
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I can't even remember. It's beenso long. And there's definitely stuff that
works and there's definitely stuff that doesn'twork for me in this movie. But
same. Also, we were doingthis movie because we both watched the documentary
about Steve Martin on Apple Plus,which is really really good, and I
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just felt like this was a naturalconversation to have. So how many times
have you seen The Jerk Margo?You know? I gotta say probably not
that many. I know, Isaw it when I was on cable in
the eighties, and I know itwas like at parties and stuff. I
never I realized, like, Idon't know why, but I loved Steve
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Martin. I thought King Tut washilarious. I loved him on The Muppet
Show. Yes, I mean Ido like Steve Martin very much. I
think of him now as much moreof an intellectual. Yeah, then silly.
So when he like if this isjust all silly, it's a little
alarming because it's you know, it'sjust different than what he does. Now,
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yes, i'd say, I'll saythis, and I do overall.
I did overall laugh a few times, like belly laughs. There's some good
stuff, but uh, for aninety minute movie, it feels long.
Yes it does. There's like,why does this feel like it's a two
to two and a half hour comedy. Yeah, it does feel that way.
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And I and look, I knowbecause we got so many requests to
cover the jerk. For some people, this is like their Steve Martin,
and right, like, this isnot my Steve Martin. My Steve Martin
is actually a little after this.I loved The Man with Two Brains,
which I watched like a million timeswhen I was younger, and then and
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then after that you get into likeall of Me and la story and all
of it, and those are likekind of more my Steve Martin jam But
yeah, parenthood. Yes, Iknow that people have a lot of affection
for this movie because they grew upwatching it. They have the nostalgia glasses
for it, that's all. Andthat's okay. Yeah. I mean,
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look it's over what forty years ago? I can't do math, but it's
nineteen seventy nine. Like we haveto you do have to grade it on
a curve. Yeah, Like andhave to say, like everybody that's signed
up to do it read the script. They knew what they were getting into.
Yeah, so no one's a victim. But there's just shit you wouldn't
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say or do now, which iscomedy, Like that's it ages, you
know, you do something different.I'm sure there's stuff here he wouldn't he
would WinCE at. But they're alsolike I said, there are a few
times I just I fucking laughed outloud because it's just so there's somebody bizarre
elements here. It kind of remindsme of Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes,
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yeah, we did it better.Yeah. Pee Wee's Big Adventure has
aged very very well for me,Like it's consistent. The tone is consistent
in that movie, and I thinkfor here, you know, he's obviously
writing a love letter to his girlfriend. Yes, and she's stunning, yes
and beautiful, and like I said, why isn't she and everything? Because
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she's on Broadway all the time,Yes, but I forgot my point anyway.
Her just their scenes together are thesweetest things they are, right,
and there's this again you're talking aboutthe tone. The tone of this movie
for me is like all over theplace. First of all, it's called
The Jerk, and I was like, well, he's not really a jerk.
He's just really stupid. It's kindof like a schmuck. Yeah,
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he's a schmuck. He's really reallynaive. But his scenes with her are
like in a totally different movie thanthe rest of the movie. There's a
scene where they sing together and it'sso sweet and he's like playing as ukulele
and then she like takes a trumpetlike out of nowhere and is playing.
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It's so again adorable. Everybody drinkand they have great chemistry and it's so
sweet. And then there's just thisother stuff where he's like he's dropping that.
There's the N bomb at one point, and I'm like, oh,
why don't you go through like thebeats, like go through like what we're
Yeah, So it starts with SteveMartin is basically a homeless person who's living
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outside of a movie theater, andthe camera stops on him, and he's
like, let me tell you mystory, and he says, I was
born a poor black child, whichis made me laugh so hard when I
was a kid that as an adult, I'm like because that was one of
his bits too. Yes, yeah, yeah, so and that was another
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thing. Watching the documentary about himand then seeing this movie, you see
how much of his stand up isworked into this. This this movie is
very representative of the kind of standup com andy Steve Martin was doing at
the time. That's like, andit played arenas, Yes it was.
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He was so famous as a standup comedian. So fa, he was
a rock star. He was sofamous. It's bananas and the and the
stuff he's doing is so smart andstupid at the same time, and which
I like, Yeah, and thismovie has some smart jokes in it,
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but it's mostly stupid. That's andagain that's fine. So he says he's
grown up. You know, Iwas born a poor black child, and
he he really is. He's livingin a house in Mississippi with an all
black family, and you know,it's pretty obvious that he's adopted, but
because he's so dumb, he doesn'tknow he's adopted. And Finally they tell
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him and he cries, like,you mean, I'm gonna stay this color.
It's I love it. It's hisbirthday. And Mabel king Ripe hilarious,
Yes, comedian, she was like, what's happening and the whiz and
everything's but she's like, it's yourbirthday. I'm gonna bring your favorites.
Tune a fish sandwich on whitebread.Mannis because he's a tab he had a
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couple of toy kies and I'm likethat sounds delicious, well, but like
and they're like playing the blues andhe's like that music makes me feel sad
and like and he's like totally offkey, like he can't keep any rhythm
with the music they're playing because he'sjust so white. And he hears some
like jazz or like big band musicon the radio. In this he's able
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to keep time with and he realizesthere's a whole world out there that maybe
he would fit in. And Ilove the advice they give him as he's
getting ready to go, he's like, it's like Lord loves the working man
and don't trust whitey witch. Ye. Yeah, great advice. We should
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all get that. Like embroidered ona pillow. It works. He is
going to go to Saint Louis,he says, And for some reason,
he's wearing goggles. I don't knowwhat that's about. But okay, and
the truck that like takes him justto the end of the driveway that he
has to get another truck. It'svery silly. It's very silly. Where
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does he go first? Well,so he goes. He goes all the
way to a hotel and in themiddle of the night, a dog like
starts barking, and he takes thatis the dog is trying to warn him
about a fire. I think he'seven saying, like, I'm going to
name this dog Einstein because he's sosmart. He's warning us about a fire,
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and like it's there's no fire.And someone says to him, you
should name that dog Shithead. Sothen now he's got a dog that he
names Shithead. And Steve Barnes's character, Nathan is so dumb that he's like
the next day they show him he'scarrying the dog. He doesn't even know
how to fucking walk a dog.That's he's carrying this dog. Another truck
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picks them up. He lets thedog sit in the front he gets in
the bag and then he gets ajob at a gas station with that's Jackie
Mason, right, the owner.Yeah, and he's not doing too much
stick, which is good because hecan really lean into his stick. Let's
just say shtick. But yeah,he's funny. He runs the gas station
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and he he has a wife that'slike much younger, totally using him,
and he leaves him alone on aSunday and says, I want you know,
you've got to protect this at allcosts. And then and the racial
stereotypes are kind of like, it'sa it's a it's Hispanic men that are
in a stolen car and they're theyhave a bunch of credit cards on them
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and he and he's like, oh, I'll fill you up, okay.
And then he calls the cops andsays, hey, I got these guys.
Come over and he tries to stallthem and they're adding tires to the
order and all this shit. Andthen he's like, he goes keep the
way back with the cops on thephone. I forget this And this cracks
me up so hard. He's like, do you want to of admit?
You get anove admit forgetting your car? So he goes in and they realized
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that the gig is up, youknow, they can checket something. I
gotta go, but he had tiedthem to a building their car and they
start dragging out. It's this churchin the middle of the wedding cir so
it rips apart a church. Andthen he's just funny. He's describing the
card to the police and he's like, it's like a blue you know,
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sidan, you know whatever he's describing. He's like, also, it's pulling
half of a church. Maybe leadwith that. It's like, yeah,
it's just so dumb. And there'salso a whole thing where like So then
he meets a customer who's constantly liketrying to put his glasses on, and
his glasses just keeps sliding down hisface, and he fixes the glasses for
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him by like putting this little handleon the glasses and like it like sits
on the bridge of your nose andlike steadies your glasses on your face.
And the guy's like, I'm gonnasell this shit, and now I'm going
to give you half the profits.And he's like, whatever you do you
So that character's gone for like agood half hour. Forty five minutes,
right, But that's when we getthe oh my god, the new phone
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book is here. The phone book'shere, and he's so excited that he
exists because he has his name inthe phone book, which is a thing
kids, you could look it upa Wikipedia. And then at Walsh like
just taking that foot book and justpooh popping with his figure, just randomly
picking him with the gun. Ohgod, that made me laugh. That
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was like there's some really genuine yeah. This this part makes me laugh because
it's like he's like I am somebodynow, like I'm in the phone book,
like I'm in print. Things aregonna start happening to me now.
And then it cuts to m Mat Walsh like picking his name at random
out of a book and he's like, I'm you know, I'm gonna kill
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this random guy and the things he'syelling while he's trying to kill him too,
like you regular old schmo, I'llkill you, Like that's no reason
to kill him. But we getthe like he's sitting up in a hill
with his gun, his sniper riflewhatever, and he's shooting at Navan,
and Navan is standing by these oilcans and he's like, these cans are
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defective. Then it's he hates thesecans, which I think is probably one
of the more famous lines from thismovie. It's he is too again,
so dumb. He doesn't realize thatthis person's trying to kill him, that
he doesn't want to just shoot cansbecause he's so dumb. He gets his
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dog shit head and runs away.I did laugh at this part too.
And he drives onto a lot whereit says carnival personnel only, and the
sign alone is enough to keep mmat Walsh away because he's like, he's
not carbinal, he's not carnival personnel, like get him. And now he's
joined the circus, so no,no more gas station. He's working at
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the circus. He's a weight guesser. And he meets this woman who like
drives a motorcycle through like fire throughlike flaming hoops, and that is Caitlin
Adams, who apparently is the foundingmember of the ground Leans. Really,
yeah I did not know this.I didn't know that either. Yeah.
Wow, she's hilarious. Yeah she'sfunny as shit. Yeah she's really really
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funny and like she's she'll fuck anybodyat the circus basically is what it is.
And she's like, he's my nextperson. So she like feels him
up. She's like living in atrailer that's a total dump or whatever,
and like she starts fondling him andgrabbing him, and he's like, what's
happening to my special purpose which iswhat he calls his dick, my special
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purpose? And they began, likethey begin hooking up, but they never
kiss, apparently that's she's like.And he writes a letter to his parents
about it, and he's like,I found my special place with somebody and
then reads it. It lash becausenow she's gonna give me a blowjob.
Anyway, here's two dollars and Isaid, He's all, I'm gonna start
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earning some extra money because she's gonnagive me a blow job. He's so
stupid. Again, by the way, that joke totally over my head.
When I was like nine years old, I was like, I wonder what
a blue job is. Well,they'red bitterer. I didn't know. Then
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he's like run. He's like operatingthe little train and that train ride and
that when he meets Marie and that'sBernadette Peters again. The cutest fucking thing.
I just I mean that that likeno poor free skin. Yeah,
like just just glowing. It's likethere's a halo around her. A porcelain
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doll. She is just a doll. She's got the cute little heart sunglasses
on. I want those sunglasses.I know, they're so cute. I'm
gonna get them in prescription. Anduh, like he asked her to.
He asks her on a date andthey get a cup of pizza. Okay,
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this is the best cup of pizza. You put the other cup of
pizza place out of business, andfor some reason he licks her face instead
of kisses her. I don't knowwhat that's about, really, but she's
really into him, Like, nomatter how stupid, let me say this,
he's so cute. I mean SteveMartin was. I mean, he
did not realize that. When Iwas a kid, I was just like
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he was a wild and crazy guy. He was goofy, he was funny,
he was silly. I'm like,I look at him now, yes,
and I'm look at him. He'slike thirty years old, thirty five.
Maybe I don't know, but I'mlike I would hit that. I
mean, yeah, he can haveall of this yes he can have all
don't want it, but he canhave it. He It's so interesting because
first of all, he looked oldereven when he was younger because he had
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the premature gray hair, premature dyedit, yeah, and then he would
die it when he was like I'mgoing to play serious roles, then he
would like dye his hair or whatever. But like, yeah, as a
kid, I was like, whatever, he's wild and crazy guy. And
then by the time I really likeSteve Martin, he was making things like
La Story and Parenthood, and Iwas, well, he's too old for
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me. And now I look backat those like wild and crazy guys and
I'm like, oh, hello,hi, Yes, yeah, he's hot.
Yeah, So no matter how strangehe behaves in this movie though,
like she's into him and it's veryand then they get this very sweet scene
where they sing like tonight you belongto me, and he's got his little
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ukulele and she's got her I wrotecoronet because they call it a coronet,
but I was like, isn't thata trumpet? I don't know what the
difference is. But but they fallin love and they're like living together and
they're so cute and he wants tomarry her, and that's where he sings
his thermist song that I still singall the time. Again, haven't seen
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this movie in like thirty years,and I sing it all the time to
my kid, to the dogs.I'm picking out a thermis for Max,
no ordinary thermis for Max, andMax is like, not thermis. But
before he can, she leaves himbecause she's afraid that like he can't provide
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for her, you know, hedoesn't make any money. And she's like
singing along with him and crying andshe's beautiful. Well then oh, he
goes to chase after her, buthe's naked, and he like uses the
dogs the covers jump and made melaugh too, and picks up a neighbor's
dog to cover the back. Andthen he decided he's leaving the circus at
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this point, and I love thathe's like okay, shithead, like you
need to just let me go,and Shithead's like cool, see you later,
piece and he's like yeah, andhe's like no, no, you
have to come with me, andhe's like dragging the dog like come with
me. It cracks me up.Then what happens, Oh, then he
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finds out that he the man hemet at the gas station has taken his
little invention on the glasses. Hecalls it the OPTI Grab, and he
gives him like a shit ton ofmoney. He's super rich. Now.
I love how he goes into thebank and he gives a cashier's check and
he sits for two fifty thanks's twohundred and fifty dollars. Yes, he's
all, like, I would itall? What's yes? Oh, sit
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down, stir. It's two hundredand fifty thousand dollars, which in nineteen
seventy nine was our shitload of money. Yes, a ton of money.
And everyone is wearing these opti grabthings from that point on, like anyone
who's wearing glasses has this stupid fuckinghandle on their glasses. As someone who
wears glasses, I would never Imean maybe if it was like bejeweled or
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something, but no, yeah,they used to really. I remember my
dad had a little foamy things.Yes, because they used to be very
uncomfortable to wear. Yes, allday, absolutely, and like they they
still are to a certain point.But I mean, I'm I'm a contact
lens gal. I am that weare the opposite. We're the opposite.
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Yes, so they are now andhe finds Marie and they are like,
he's he's super rich. But Andy, he wants to show up how rich
he is, so he gets thislike ridiculous car. He's wearing a stupid
hat with the huge with a hugefeather like and the dog now has a
little hat with feathers too, andthe sunglasses. The dog's wearing sunglasses in
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the hat. It's so cute.The dog should have been nominated for Best
Supporting Actor, Like yeah, likehe he's he's delightful. He or she
is delightful. He could make aMary They are delightful. They I'm I'm
sure, I'm gonna pretend that dogis still alive and it could make a
buddy comedy with the dog from Anatomyof the Fall, and I would watch
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it yes back when dogs could bestars like Benji or Lassie. Really old
your ask your great grandparents. Sothey get married, Marie and Navian,
and again they have a ridiculously uhextravage in life. They they have like
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wine, like I love. He'slike, let's get some fresh wine.
Let's splurge. And the whole thingabout their snails on her plate made me
laugh too. When they go tothe restaurant and she's like, He's like,
don't look, don't look at it, And she's terrified because there's snails
on her plate, even though that'swhat she ordered the idea of fresh wine.
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What else. Just the house ismassive, way too big for these
like two people. It's it's amansion that's been featured in a bunch of
movies. Yes, but yeah,it's it's pretty amazing, like the Three
Pools and the Eight describes it ingreat detail to his family. He's constantly
writing back to his family and sendingthem money. Yes on his yeah,
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on his adventures. And then theyhave a disco party, which I was
like, I would totally go tothat. I would sounds like fun.
And she dances, and by theway, and again she's beautiful and like
her dancing's really good. And Ijust wrote in my notes, and Steve
Martin is there, like he didn'treally, although he he dances a lot
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at the end, but yeah,I know he has, he's got some
rhythm at the end. Yes,But she they then he's gonna be on
television to be interviewed for some reason, so they make the whole party sit
on the floor and watch the TV. And then it turns out that the
thing that he invented makes people gocross eyde and that's where you have Carl
Reiiner plain him thinking it's oh doingeyeball work, that's like amazing, but
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it makes people cross eye. Sohe's being sued for ten million dollars,
so he's out of business, youknow, he's he's he's got a yeah,
writing the stack of checks. He'swriting out like ten million checks for
like one dollar and nine cents orsomething like that. There's also the scene
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where Carl Reiner's like, here's like, look what happened because my vision was
impaired, and he's like, Idon't yell cut in time and we see
this car like right clip and thenhe's and then as the car's exploding,
he's like cut so awful, soawful. And yeah, he's he's drinking.
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He's writing out his like ten millionchecks to people. And by the
way, everyone in the court alsocross eyed. Now at this point they've
all had opti grabs, Like thewhole jury's cross eye, the judge's cross
side, and that's why he's foundguilty. And he's writing out his checks.
He gets into a fight with Marieand she's just like, I don't
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care about any of this stuff.Who cares? And he's like, I'm
leaving, and we get the Idon't need anything except this ashtray in this
paddle game. That whole seed,Like when I was younger, I thought
was the most hilarious, damp thing. I mean, like now, I'm
like, we get that so oftenin comedy. Now, yeah, they
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just you know this and family guideeverything. It's like it used to be
comedy was like the rule of threesand then it became like fives and tens,
like everybody just like so much.But his pants are around his ankles
for some reason, and it's inthe posters, so you got it,
Like I'm like, why is hejust but he's but he's walking around Beverly
Hills with his pants around his ankles, of filthy bathrobe. He's now going
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to be homeless again, out unhoused. However, we say it doesn't have
a home, and he's going tohis spot and that's when his family comes
and rescues him. And it turnsout they were investing in things when he
sent them money that actually made moneythat were not his thing. Right,
and they they say, you know, look, come home with that we
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were we lost our house, butwe're gonna build one just like it.
And and he and he and Mariemoved to this house. So it's just
like that shack, but they haveit, I guess in Beverly Hill,
just a little bigger. And thenthey're playing the banjo and they're dancing and
he's doing and they're all living happilyever after. Yes the end, even
Shitthead is there. Even Shithead hasa place in their home. And it
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makes it sound because it makes I'mtelling you, there's parts of this movie
where it's like the comedy drags.Yeah, And I think like this whole
concept, I say, is perfectedwith Pee's Big Adventure. Yes, I
think it's it's but I think likeit's seventy nine, and you know it's
I think it's his first movie,isn't. I think I think it is
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too. Yeah, I mean itwas his first starring role for sure,
and it made a shitload of money. It was very popular. It made
Guy one hundred million dollars, whichis huge. Four million, Yeah,
and it was a four million dollarbudget. And we could both tell you
like every dude tried to walk aroundwith the arrow through the head thing like
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that was like he was very mucha part of the culture. He was
a big deal. Yes, Iseeing the documentary and watching the movie made
me appreciate the movie. I actuallydon't know if I would have liked the
movie as much now if I hadn'twatched the documentary right before this, because
I see so much of his standup in here, and I was like,
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I see what he's doing. He'stransitioning from stand up to movies and
this is like a natural progression here. And then after that you get things
like The Man with Two Brains andall of Me and all of that.
But like, I don't know.I mean, they are parts of the
movie that are cute, and there'sparts that made me laugh, but it's
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not something where I'm like, Ican't wait to watch the Jerk again.
Yeah, because it's just not forme. And that's, by the way.
There's also people that like, love, love, love Caddy Shack,
And that's another one where I'm like, that's yeah it's Caddy Shack. Say
I like Caddy Shacks. Yeah,yeah, but a bit. Yeah,
we all have our different taste.I mean, I think it's it's to
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me, like, if you're aSteve Martin complete is definitely check it out.
Oh yeah, Carl Reiner is alwaysfun, It's got great guest stars.
It's you know, it's just it'sa little uneven for me. Yes,
what is your favorite Steve Martin?I really like Parenthood too. I
love he does everything in that movie. He did a whole Yes, yeah,
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I know. And it's like it's, oh, it's cheesy, it's
Ron Howard. I'm like, Idon't give a shit. I like cheesy
Ron Howard. It's it's it's gotheart and I care about them and I
an La story. We definitely needto do one day. I haven't visited
that in a while, but thatone always made me laugh. I loved
it. I loved Rock Sand RockSane is amazing and it holds up.
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And he is so funny in Allof Me, Like the physical comedy that
he does in All of Me ispretty pretty impressive. Like he's he's great.
He's just such a treasure. Andif you haven't seen the documentary,
do it definitely. And if you'veif you're interested in Steve Martin, he
wrote a book called Born Standing Upwhich is kind of just his life story.
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And he goes really into detail abouthow he structured his comedy and how
he worked on his comedy Chops,and how he got it all together,
and like he's a very hard worker. He has somebody who really he puts
so much thought into what he's doing. And I like highlighted passages from that
book because I was when it cameout. I was teaching for the first
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time, and teaching and performing arethe same thing, Like you're trying to
engage in audience. I thought someof his advice was so helpful. That's
interesting. Yeah, I made copiesand I said it to friends, like
you really need to read this,Like, and his story is fascinating,
Like he was working at Disneyland,who's like twelve, Yeah, he's a
kid. Yeah, and he andhis father weren't very close. And he's
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also like one of the best banjoplayers. Like everyone says that his his
level with of ability with that islike off the charts. And he's interesting.
I mean, he's his relationships areinteresting. The women that he's been
involved with, you know, he'she's uh. I could see why he
gets like really classy dames, likereally because I get it. Yeah,
(33:23):
I totally get it, and I'veI have listened to a lot of his
music. He did a lot ofHe did some albums with Edie Brikel that
I love and bluegrass, and hedid a musical with her as well,
and it was called Bright Star andit played here in San Francisco. I
went and saw it. I lovedit. It wasn't like a big hit
(33:45):
here in ess of but I Iloved it and thought the music was so
great. And I have a Iremember a story Sarah. Sarah Silverman was
being interviewed on Howard Stern and shewas talking about how brilliant Steve Martin is
and she's like, I was ata dinner in the Hamptons and it was
(34:06):
at Louren Michael's house, and Iwas sitting with Steve Martin and his wife
is like a New Yorker editor,Like yeah, She's like, I was
very intimidated, and Lauren could tell, and Lauren's kind of pretentious. But
he says, Sarah, don't beintimidated by this man. When I first
took him out for a meal,he didn't know what persudo was, and
he said, just right away,Steve looked her and says, now,
(34:27):
I drive one, which is fuckingthat kind of mind is like so impressive.
The banter with him and Martin Shortin the second part of the documentary,
like Martin Short is just always hangingout with him. They're just always
together and writing together. The waythey talk to each other, it is
(34:52):
so funny, Like he's just anaturally funny person. Yeah, and it's
just so smart. Yeah, likehe's super super intelligent, which is hot,
yes, so hot, but justso quick and clever. I was
like, oh my god, Iwould drop my drawers like just like that's
now I drive one. Jesus Christ, that's funny. Funny dude. Hot,
(35:17):
take everybody hot much. It isa funny dude. Uh Yeah,
I love I read a lot.I read his books. I read Pure
Drivel, which made me laugh outloud. I read Shopgirl when it came
out. Yeah. I've just I'vealways been a Steve Martin girly so but
(35:38):
this one is again huge fans andthere's classic stuff in here. It's just
not my go to Steve Martin now. I mean, it's just the racial
stuff is it doesn't age well.We didn't even mention the part where I
used the N word. Yeah,and he's using it in a righteous way
for nineteen seventy nine, like he'sbeating up racist. Yes, but you
(36:01):
still can't you know, it's stillit's and some of this and just some
of the stick. It's I didlike it when so she's a cosmetologist,
Marie, and she puts this greencrap on people's faces and it's all men.
This guy that's getting this bask yes, and uh, I'm forgetting the
(36:23):
word now. But like she's like, Okay, I'm gonna take this mask
off. It's good. Twenty yearsyounger and his wife is it's a Yiddish
where, which just means like withGod's help, there's there's just little but
like I didn't know that as akid. Now I've lived in Brooklyn forever,
I'm like, oh, I getit. Okay, it's it's really
it's there's but still if you're completestor you're just curious, check it out.
(36:47):
But just understand there's like some stufflike edgy comedy never age as well.
It's just you know, right,it's inappropriate. You laugh at the
time, and then later on you'relike, okay, that's just yeah,
there's a lot. There's a lotof stick in this movie, and your
mileage may vary. That's a betterway of putting it. It's just like
(37:08):
we did a whole episode on Airplane, Like, if you don't like that
joke, wait five seconds. You'llget another one, and maybe that one
will work for you. I gaveup the wrong week for sniffing Goode.
That one always works. Do youwant to hear the top ten movies of
(37:28):
nineteen seventy nine? Goddamn right?I do, okay? Number ten The
Muppet Movie, the best movie.I love the Muppet Movie. Steve Martin
is in The Muppet Movie too.He's the waiter that brings them their fine
wine from Oregon. I meet peopleevery once in a while that aren't it
to the Muppets, and I'm justlike, you're a fucking monster if they're
(37:51):
around my age, if you're genX, you know, like the Muppets
I hate, don't. I don'tunderstand that. Yeah, you just you're
allergic to joy. Yeah. Iwatched that movie countless times with Calvin and
there's always something, always something tolaugh at in that movie. Always.
Number nine Moonraker, Yeah, that'sa good one. I'm like, that's
(38:13):
chee. It's I like James Bondmovies. Yeah, me too, and
this one is very cheesy James.Yeah, you graded on a curve like
exactly. Number eight is the Jerkyep, just talked about it. Then
we have the movie ten that mightbe one where we should definitely cover this
(38:34):
one sometime because this is talk abouta juggernaut, y'all. They tried to
make Dudley Moore a sex symbol.I'm like, kind of worked, not
for me, but that's okay toeach the room, Okay, Apocalypse now,
never heard of it. Yeah,it's a rump after I saw The
(38:57):
Jerk. Now what a great doublefeature alien fantastic dope. That's a dope
movie. I love that whole series. Yeah, Star Trek the motion picture
first one. Yes, not asdope. No, it's fine, it's
(39:19):
it's it looks great. It's reallyslow, really really slow. Is it
like every other one that's the goodone? Even ones or something like that.
There's some kind of rule with Yeah, well, wath of Con is
great, Yes it is, andwe did a whole The fifth one is,
and the fifth one is amazing.I'm a defender of actually pretty much
all the Star Treks except for thefirst one. Yeah, the first one
(39:45):
is just it again, looks great, just really slow. Okay. A
couple more movies, Rocky two,Yeah, a spoiler, he wins that
one. Number two Amityville Horror.You know, I actually remember talking with
(40:07):
my dad and saying, like,you know, that whole thing was you
know, made up because they haddead and blah blah blah. It looks
to me like you thought that shitwas real. Like he was so disgusted.
But how dumb. I'm a kid. I must be adopted or exactly
what the talking pig and the thatshit what? I don't even I know
(40:31):
I've seen Amityville Horror, but Ilook like Margo kidder by the way.
Well that's a huge compliment because she'sjust bad. Yeah, well and you're
brad, so duh. I haven'tseen that movie since like the eighties.
But I don't know if you knowthis, Margo, but it's not a
(40:51):
true story. No. And thenumber one, this blows my mind.
The number one movie of nineteen seventynine is Kramer Versus Kramer. Are you
fucking kidding? I am not kiddingyou you all, I got it made
over one hundred million dollars. Itis the number one movie this like adult
(41:14):
drama about divorce? Was that anumber fucking bummer? The big like who
was like, hey man, yougotta go see Kramer versus Kramer, Like
I'm gonna run out and see Kramerversus Kramer, Like hey, date night,
Like yeah, right, at leastthat's not us, you know who?
(41:36):
Like I mean, I know,like divorce was becoming more and more
common, and like maybe it clickedfor people because there weren't movies like this,
but an adult drama like this wouldnever be the number one movie.
Now, this would never happen.No, do you want to hear the
top ten songs for that week?I can't wait? Okay, so this
(41:58):
nineteen seventy August, right, that'swhen The Jerk came out. Okay,
so it's number ten Take the LongWay Home, super Tramp. Still love
that song. Yeh, that's agood one. Sorry, my phone is
being an asshole. Number nine HeartacheTonight by the Eagles. I love the
Eagles, Love same. Number eightThe Captain and to Neil do that to
(42:22):
me one more time? I wassuper the Captain and to Neil Super into
the Captain and to Neil, Iwas, I love rock YEP. Number
seven JD. Souther You're Only Lonely. I don't know that song. I
bet if I heard it, I'dbe like you you know it's number six.
Oh, this song is so fuckingdope. Barber Streisan Donna Summer,
(42:45):
No More Tears, Enough is Enough, Yep, that song's fucking dope.
It is, uh. Number fiveStevie Wonder, Send one Your Love.
That's not my favorite Stevie Wonder.Yeah. Number four, this song you
can't fucking Escape. It's Rupert HolmesEscape, the song about cheating. When
(43:07):
I was younger, I love thatsong. And then you listen to and
as an adult and you're like theywere gonna cheat on each other. You
still it puts you in a mood. Man. It's a yacht rock song.
Yeah. Number three Casey in theSunshine Band, Please Don't Go.
I was, I was totally into. I loved Casey's great I saw him
(43:30):
like twenty years ago. It wasit was a fantastic show. That's awesome.
Number two The Commodore. Still.I love Lionel Richie. It's a
it's a it's a ballad. It'sa go really, Oh I know,
okay, yes, yes, Iknow, and talking about yacht rock son
yeah number one Sticks. Babe,babe, I'm leaving you today. I
(43:59):
was I like that song too.I love yacht rock y'all. I listened
to that yacht rock station on Seriousexem all the time, love that.
I had a friend obsessed with thesong with the album Paradise Theater, Like
every time she came over she broughtthat album with her. I'm like,
oh fuck, not this again.But oh my god, my sister and
(44:20):
I when we were living together asadults, I mean not like sharing a
room as a kid, we boughtlike the best of Sticks, like a
CD, and we used to listento it all the time. We're talking
about in the two thousands, we'velike rediscovered Sticks. We were all in.
They were great. Yeah, misterRoboto, too much time on my
(44:40):
her. I got to yeah,that's a good song. That one is
so good. What else are youdorkying out about? My friend? I
was late for this call with you, Like all of a sudden, you
popped up on my phone like,oh shit, I gotta record a Sonia
because the Peacock Network is just puttingout all these old Bravo shows. And
it's because the Housewives, Like we'reall waiting for Salt Lake City to come
(45:06):
back in New Jersey. Like there'skind of a lull right now. I'm
just not into summerhouse. You likethe vander Pump and I'm val I'm currently
obsessed with vander Pump Rules. ButI loved the Housewives. And they had
one season in DC and it wasthatshit crazy and it's twenty ten, and
(45:27):
so it had one season. Andthere's this couple, Tarik and Mikaela and
I for Salahi, and there's there'slike five women and it's this tall,
thin blonde woman and her husband andthey are constantly crashing parties. And this
is when Obama's in the White House. They went to remember this, Yes,
they went to the Black Caucus likeit's a big deal, but they
(45:51):
like brought friends with them and thenthey would sneak into places and then go
around and try to find seats.They there's a picture of them, famous
picture of them like shaking hands withPresident Obama. Like they got right past
securities. I remember this now.These people are fucking insane, Like there's
a he has a winery and heand his mother were suing each other to
(46:14):
run the winery, and they inviteeverybody to come over, and then he's
telling them you his mother had senta press corps to follow them because she
knew they were on Real Housewives becauseshe's trying to serve in papers or something.
So he hired security for this wineryin the middle of Virginia, like
not, nothing's going on, andthey had to go in a back entrance.
(46:36):
It was just bananas. And thenhe gets really waste and then accuses
one of the women of her hither daughter, stealing his car in all
of his polo equipment and going onand on about the fbis in on it
equipment. Yes, so he's meanand crazy, and she once again,
tall, thin, blonde like sheows just like defending him. She said
(47:00):
that she was a cheerleader for theDC football team, which used to be
called something else. It's called theWashington Senators now m hm. She shows
up at a get together a formercheerleader. She finds out they're having a
get together and they're gonna go onthe field, so she just gets an
outfit and runs out there and startshugging people like crazy. She never was
a cheerleader. She was never acheerleader. She's running up to the hey
(47:23):
girl, how you doing? Ohmy god, and she obviously can't cheer,
like they're teaching you a choreography.She just no idea what she's doing.
This woman is this like throughout theshow. And then they have two
so it's like twelve episodes. Andthen they have a reunion. It's only
like two parts. Her husband's stalkingthe reunion. They won't let him in.
(47:45):
Annie is trying to ask her like, were you a cheerleader or not?
And she keeps avoiding the question.Oh my god, this sounds really
good, so it's awesome. Andthen a few months later, maybe a
year later, half the couples aredivorced and or three quarters, but this
couple they get she escapes from him. She tells this guy Eric, I'm
(48:07):
gonna go visit my mother. She'ssick, so i'll see in a few
days. So he calls the motherwhen he doesn't hear from her and his
mother and her mother's like, Idon't know what you're talking about. I'm
fine. I haven't talked to herin weeks. Turns out she used to
have a fling with Neil shown ofJourney the guitars for Journey. He turns
(48:29):
out he's hoiled a candle for herall these years. Yes, he helps
her escape, they get married,and then she puts it on video on
demand to make money from that,and now she's with this multimillionaire rock star.
Bananas. It's Bananas. And everybodysaid, like they couldn't get a
(48:53):
second season because these people were justI'm like, everyone's begging for it because
they were all of them are nuttierthan fruitcakes and just there because it's their
first season. They're trying really hard, like they don't have a personality yet,
and that's always kind of fun.And anyway, like it absorbed like
two hours of my time. You'reway more than the jerk I was weird,
(49:15):
But I I'm not ruining anything,y'all. I mean, honestly,
if you need like just brain candy, just like something really dumb, it's
their story is wackado. It's it'sunbelievable anyway. Okay, So also Manhunt
that just finished really good. TaylorSwift's album dropped really great. I'm I'm
(49:42):
enjoying it when listening. Do youhave a favorite so far is it bad
down or down bad? Yeah,I want to say it's I think it's
I think it's down bad. Andthen so long London. Okay. I
like the one she does about Ido it with a broken heart. Yes,
that's right. Oh I can doit with a broken heart. Yeah.
(50:06):
I'm like, it's super eighty soundingand I live it so felt that
song in my soul. She's She'sgreat. And then one more thing to
recommend. I think I talked aboutthis on one to creep. But Chelsea
Davantes has a she does celebrity memoirs, usually just women's memoirs. It's a
show called Glamorous Trash Oh yeah,yeah, and she talks about pop culture
(50:30):
and stuff like that. And sherecently her most recent episode, she has
Delta Burke. Oh it's not donean interview in many years. But she
was telling her that ninety eight DeltaBurke put out a memoir and she said,
like, I was a teenager andI read your memoir and it really
changed my life. You were AndDelta Burke just writes about how shitty she
(50:52):
was treated by the media because shedared to get fat, like they were
so offensive awful to her. Awful, awful, and you just listening to
her, she just sounds like avery sweet, kind of fragile person.
And then Gerald McCraney is her husband. Yeah, and they're still together thirty
(51:14):
five years. That's amazing. Hewould defend her, like to the Yeah,
he's in on the interview like heshit's a zoom call, and he
like every once in a while justchimes in and like just to encourage her,
like oh remember this, remember that. And she said, he's the
one person I've got. I gotchoked up because she's the only one.
Like even my parents didn't love methis much. Like he really believes in
(51:35):
me. I know, I know, and it's like I don't know.
It really just gave me the feels. And anyway, that's it. That's
a good one. That's a goodwreck. I have two movie wrecks.
I went to the theater and Isaw Monkey Man, which is the new
action movie starring Death the Tale frompeople might know him from slum Dog Million
(52:00):
Air or he was in the Newsroomwhich I didn't watch Lion with Nicole Kidman.
He was really really good in thatthis. If you like John Wick
movies, you will like Monkey Man. It's basically John Wick. It's Indian
john Wick. It's I don't thinkit's trying to pretend that it isn't.
(52:20):
It is right, like he issomeone who you know as a child this
like gang murdered his mother. I'mnot spoiling anything. It's right in the
trailer. And he grows up andhe's an amazing fighter and he wants to
get revenge. It's it's really gory. It's really really good and he's he's
(52:43):
really good at he's he's a starto me, like, oh yeah no,
and I like, uh, Ilove revenge movie. Yeah. He
and he's he's very handsome, likehe's so he's aged very well, he's
very very handsome. He it's veryentertaining movie. I was super into it.
(53:04):
Again, I like the john Wickmovies. This is very much that
so I recommend. And then lastnight it's streaming now on shutter I watch
Late Night with the Double. Haveyou seen previews for this one? I've
heard about it, but I don'tknow what it's about. Okay, So
it's the idea is is that themovie is the last episode of this talk
(53:27):
show from the seventies, kind ofa Johnny Carson style. They referenced Johnny
Carson a lot, like this personis competing with Johnny Carson. He has
a talk show called night Owls,and this whole thing is representative of the
last episode of the show. Soit's like what's in front of the camera,
and then the things they're filming likebehind the scenes. And it's a
(53:50):
Halloween show and he is trying itsweeps week. He's trying to like get
the ratings. So he has somebodycome on who can like commune with the
dead. He has a girl whocomes on who can speaks to a demon,
like all these things and scary thingsin Sue, I don't want to
spoil spoil it. Yeah, I'mnot gonna spoil anything for anybody. First
(54:14):
of all, I think the settotally looks like those seventies talk shows that
like your your Dick Cavits and YourDiana Shore and like MERV Griffith, like
all that stuff. It totally lookslike that stuff. I don't think it
sticks the landing, But up untilthat point I was all in. I
(54:36):
thought it was super entertaining, andit's on shutter streaming. It was just
it was in the theater as oflast week and now it's already on shutter,
so if you have it, Ithink it's worth watching again. I
will be curious what people think ofthe ending, but I think it's very
entertaining. I've also been listening tothe Taylor Swift album. Yeah, just
(54:58):
like you. I'm literally a thirtyminutes away from finishing Ripley. It's great,
it's beautiful. I watched the SteveMartin documentary, which is amazing,
and I know I watched another one. What was the other thing I watched?
Shame on Me something? Oh,the Jinx Too is starting well,
(55:24):
if you're listening to this episode whenit drops, it's tonight. The sequel
to the Robert Durst documentary that wason HBO Max is coming out this week.
So I just finished the Robert DurstDocumentary Part one and it's still fucking
creepy. What a weird. It'sso good, it's so good. It's
(55:47):
just so good. So I'm excitedto watch the next one. And oh,
oh my god, I forgot totell you this. I Lexi,
the host of Schooled by Cinema,has asked me to come on her podcast
and talk about Pixar movies. Ohawesome. I will be promoting that when
(56:13):
it drops. I think I'm recordingnext week sometimes, so it would come
out sometime in May, but I'lldefinitely mention it here. Uh when that
happens. I'm so I'm going tobe watching a bunch of Pixar movies over
the next couple of weeks. Oh. I was a guest on a podcast
too, Tell it's on. It'scalled Fixing Famous People. Yes, I'm
gonna I'm gonna be talking about AnneHathaway. Oh my god. Okay,
(56:37):
but I don't know when it's goingto drop. Okay. So they have
their they call it the prefix,where they talk about stuff in the news
and then they have a celebrity thatthey fix. And so we talked about
Anne Hathaway. So check Fixing FamousPeople and I will be on there.
Well, thank you for the headsup. I will definitely be listening.
Abby. Uh. Oh, Iknow what I was going to say.
(57:01):
I'm here. I'm here, y'all. We actually got some good reviews.
What what if you like our show, please review us. It helps us
find our people. You know.You can find us at dorkinoutshow dot com
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(57:21):
give a shout out to Sue Kingfive hundred Brooklyn Listener, which is not
Margo. Oh, and then Suetwenty six ninety four for giving us five
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And if you have requests for theshow, you can email us at
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(57:43):
you some stickers. They're adorable.Everybody drink my friend. Where can they
find you? On the internet?My site is Brooklynfitchick. That's also my
handle for Instagram and threads. Idon't really do Blue Sky, sorry.
And then I'm at Brooklyn Margo forTikTok and for Twitter, but I don't
(58:05):
Twitter. Let's just call it thatfrom now on Twitter. I think that's
a Julie Klausner thing. It justpopped in my head because that's how she
founds a Twitter. All right,I'm into it. That's all it is.
Everything else is It's That's all itis to me. Now. Oh,
did you hear by the way thatTesla had to recall all those I've
seen some here in San Francisco.They're so fucking ugly. They are so
(58:30):
ugly. I can't believe that peopleproudly drive them around, Like, how
embarrassing for you. Yeah, Tesla'smakes sense to me, Like that one
does not make any sense to me. I actually wrote a Tesla. It
was a It was an uber thatwas ta Yeah, I've been Yeah,
(58:52):
I get it. This is kindof cool. Yeah, they're nice.
You know, people want to saveon gas. I get it. It
makes sense to me. Yeah,I love people get bumper stickers. That
says I got this car before Iknew Elon was an asshole. Basically,
I see a lot of those inSan Francisco. But yeah, I saw
some of the ugly armored whatever thefuck those things are. Don't buy one
(59:15):
because the glue the the accelerator likeit gets stuck. So I'm sorry.
But I'm also like this whole thingof like you have to download a program
to work your car. No,I think there's something really fucked up about
that. That's just my tinfoil hat. You are not a tinfoil hat person.
(59:39):
Elon Musk is a tinfoil hat person, and he's crazy. So the
lastictly thing he would he would takea thing like in real genius, Like
he would just like put a laserto take me out. Yeah, I
honestly think that. Yeah, yeahhe would not. I don't have a
car barely, even if I havea driver's license anymore. To be honest
(01:00:00):
with y'all, I live in NewYork. I don't need it. You
don't need it. People don't drivein New York. No. But he's
like, the less things I havethat tie me to that weirdo, the
better. Yeah. Like I alreadyhave twit tear. That's good enough.
You could find me at the SonyaShow dot com and the Sonya Show on
Twitter, Instagram, blue Sky,TikTok, all the things except for Facebook,
(01:00:23):
and if you like the sound ofour voices. We also co host
a podcast called What a Creep,where we talk about creeps of the past
the present. We end every episodewith someone who's not a creep. Who's
our creep? This week, Margo, it's Mark Cherry and we're talking about
Desperate Housewives and all the creepy shitthat happened when that show was on the
air. Yeah, it was.It's a good one. Good pick.
(01:00:45):
Margo. Thank you, thank youso much for talking about the jerk with
me, I'm picking out a thermisfor you. Aw
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