Dr Peter Glidden and Dr Monzo Meet For the 1st time January 18th, 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I do you need to get your address?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (00:04):
So I am excited, thrilled and delighted to have two
people I know that are doing more to help people
live healthier lives than anyone else on the planet. I
have doctor Peter Glidden and doctor Alfonso Manso here today.
We will be opening up for calls at some point.
So the six point nine three, five, four eight eight
seventy nine is up on the screen. Great when my

(00:27):
name should be and I'll remind you again later. But
for now, let's uh, let's get talking about what we
do and what you guys are into and involved in
and how you approach health in your own different ways.
Doctor Monso, do you want to do you want to
explain a little bit about uh the eleftaff body, the

(00:49):
energetics and you know how you treat with the frequency
and how you how you addressed it that way.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Sure, yep, and uh I'll be happy this and our
glit in a book if I get his address here afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Oh nice, the ANTB book homed On.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let me show you can grab the book. So this
is this has been most of my life spent on
researching and developing this therapy. In this book which is
kind of a textbook. It's interesting. You know, a lot
of people don't get to hear the backstory for me.

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But in the late nineties, when I was finishing high school,
I did trade school and so I did two years
of electrical engineering and then I started college. When I
started college, I decided not to go into electrical engineering

(01:45):
fool because I was supposed to go to DUBRAI and
I was probably going to get almost a full write
or something because I turned out to be extremely good
at electrical engineering, top of my class. And so I
did the two years and then I decided, I don't
think I want to just fix some people people's computers
and stuff like that. So I went to college and

(02:06):
for ministry. So my undergraduate was biblical studies and Christian
ministry and all kinds of stuff. This is nineteen ninety nine.
I got sick with alce rated colitis, so I didn't
know what was going on. I knew I was getting
bad because of the energy levels and having to an
apple the time and just not doing good. And then
when I started having the blood come out, I was like, Okay,

(02:27):
this is bad. I don't know what this is, but
this is bad. So I went to your medical doctor
and he did a scope of colonoscopy and he's like, oh,
you have alceratic colitis. I'm like okay, great. He's like, yeah,
we have drugs. If it gets really bad, we'll cut
out your colon. I was like, what, what cut out
my colon? I'm like, well, what causes this bad diet?
He's like, oh, no, it has nothing to do with
diet stress. He's like, oh, it has nothing to do

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with stress. I'm like hereditary. He's like, oh, it's not hereditary.
I'm like, well, what is it. He's like bad luck.
I was like bad luck. I'm like, so you don't
know what the cause is, but you think you can
fix it. I'm like, if I didn't know what was
wrong with someone's computer, I couldn't fix it. If I
didn't know what was wrong with someone's electrical circuit, I

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couldn't fix it. So as an engineer already I was
thinking this makes no sense. So at the same time,
I found a holistic doctor because I had to move
back home for a semester then and back in Ohio.
And his name was doctor Barn and he was ninety
two or maybe ninety three when I saw him, and

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he looked like he was seventy, so he'd been doing
holistic medicine his entire life. I think he was a
d O. And he got me straight with changing my
diet and detoxing heavy metals and getting parasites and all
that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
How long did it take.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
It probably only took about really a year after I
really changed up my diet and everything.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah. Yeah, it's remarkable to understand. And this is kind
of a breakthrough, come to Jesus like moment for most
people when they realize, finally, thank God, that their medical
doctor doesn't know what the operative cause of most illnesses is.

(04:19):
They have no idea what causes most conditions, no idea whatsoever.
And the latest trend, and this started about right around
the turn of the century, is for doctors to scapegoat
everything on genetics. Well, you know, what's what's the cause
of my rheumatoid arthritis? What's genetics, what's the cause of

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my ass When well's genetics, et cetera, et cetera. They
can of course tell you which gene on which chromosome.
They have no idea at all about what's going on,
But often regretfully. So, you know, in the not so
wonderful academic world of conventional medicine, there's not a lot

(05:06):
of thought or academic integrity that goes into anything. Most
things in MD land become reality by consensus, and it's
it's it's a freaking pack of crap, no kidding.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I was actually really surprised he did not say it
was genetic. He said bad luck.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I was like, yeah, bad luck. That's a good one
I've never heard. Yeah, I mean, it makes perfect sense
to me. It's the first time I've ever heard that.
That's Yeah, it's remarkable. And don't you think it's even
more remarkable that with a with a stance like that,
which is universal, and a knowledge base which is you know,

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really small, that the medical doctor holds so much sway
in the popular culture. I mean, it's it's like, I mean,
it's like, you know, the the the psychotic people are
running the hospital, right, Yeah, it's it's unbelievable to me

(06:09):
that they're as they have as much political power and
as much social power as they do, given everything that
they do, it it's unbelievable to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And then so you know, at first I started the
drugs and they weren't helping. In fact, they helped at
the beginning, you know, really powerful steroids. Yeah, they helped
at the beginning. And then they started getting things worse
and they're like, well, we'll probably have to remove your
call And I'm like, well, what does that mean? You're
gonna have to wear a bag around? I'm like, you know,
you're thinking now, this is nineteen ninety nine, so I
was young, you're I'm like, I'm not wearing a bag.

(06:46):
I want to play hockey, and you know I'm not
going to look too good with a bag on me.
I'm like, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
If you took pregna zone, if you took pregna zone
and antibiotics away, medical doctors would not know what to do.
I mean, that's their answer for everything, right, it's suppress, suppress, suppress, suppress, suppressed, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, suppress, suppress, suppress,

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and for some reason they sleep soundly at night. I mean,
can you imagine the type of a mindset that it
would take to be able to be okay with performing
transgender surgery? Can you imagine what what that human being

(07:37):
would be like? Yeah, well, I think about it. Frequently.
Can you imagine the mindset that you know informs the
people who were behind the Teskegee experiments or who did
the barbarism that they did at the death camps in
World War Two. It wasn't the chiropractice that did that.

(08:00):
Wasn't the nature pace it did that. Wasn't the osteopasse
it did that. Wasn't the acupuncturist or the traditional Chinese
medical doctors that did that. The iovedic practitioners, the homeopacit
did that. It was the medical doctors over and over
and over again. It's the medical doctors that do this crap.

(08:20):
And yet number one, which that's it. I'm going to
shut up here in a minute because I'm really interested
in hearing more of your story. But this, what I
just said is why I think that there's a demonic

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force which is behind the allopathic medical profession, because how
else could you be number one with that type of
a worldview and that type of a track record and
that type of a philosophy which informs what you do.

(09:02):
I mean, it's like, you know, the kids to graduate
at the bottom of the class and they're running the country.
It's like, well, there's Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
So they have the short bus rider is going to
be the air bus drivers too, so i'd be careful
if you're flying. Again.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Unbelievable And we're not even getting to this topic yet.
Maybe later, But man, when you look at this what
they're calling gain a function at least the people at
the top who are making these weaponized nanotype pathogens that
I have a lot of what I specialize, and it's like,
this is this pure from the pit of hell. I mean,
these people have to be crazy. Who takes something and

(09:41):
decides that we're going to make it more deadly because
we might need to.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, people that don't understand natural law, yeah right, and
people that have an agenda, yeah, which they're smoke screening
with all of this nonsense. And look, you know, it's
a it's a sad but sobering truth that most adults
in the world are not any smarter than a fifth grader,

(10:11):
you know. So they hear a medical doctor say gain
a function or nanotech, or they hear the word genetic,
and they cower in intellectual inferiority. Oh, thank you very much, doctor,
Thank you very much. Oh it's genetic. Oh okay, doc,
whatever you say Goes. I think that was also done
on purpose. I think, you know, the dumbing down of

(10:33):
the population with fluoride. Yeah, and with the you know,
with the the educational system being set up the way
that it is, and the PhD program, the doctoral degree
of granting programs being set up the way they are,
that was all done on purpose. But again I digress. Okay,
so you cured yourself from lsrative colitis, then what happened? So?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
And then in nineteen ninety nine, what happens? I picked
up a biology degree major which is uh it was
his Grace College, which is their pre med. So I
changed my degrees. I was still doing the Biblical studies,
which was the biggest mistake ever. You don't want to
do Biblical studies at the same time you're doing pre
med because I had to study Greek and Hebrew and
that at the same time as biology. Was like, oh,

(11:15):
that was stupid, But I lived through it. But I
was really interested then in the electromagnetic systems of the
body and acupuncture and things like that because my electrical
engineer background. So I started researching that stuff and I
came across this therapy. It goes by two names, other

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than mine. Now mining is called aloftop body ginsen Zitsu
or TKM, and I came across it and it was
interesting because it was like acupuncture but different because in
this system you don't have thousands of points on the body.
You only have about twenty twenty six twenty seven points,

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and they were like to control points. They control more
than the acupuncture points. So it's really interested in this,
and I started researching it more and then eventually, probably
in twenty ten, was my big breakthrough when I realized
that these just weren't normal points, but these points were
literally Hebrew letters on the body, so the language of
God is actually written on the body. And all you

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have to do is touch two of these points because
your left hand's negative and right hand is positive. And
when you touch two of these points, it gets the
energy in your body circulating correctly. And the body's just
fixing things and it controls everything. Your DNA, how you look.
You can change start slowly changing the shape of people's
bodies when they're just formed based on how the energy
is circulating wrong, and it starts deforming the body, almost

(12:44):
like water curving a rock. But it's fascinating. So we
have emergency procedures. In my book on how to stop
a heart attack just with your hands works every time,
and a pH electric shock just with your hands, choking
just by touching two points in the body, just with touching,
not even pressure. And then we have longer therapies for

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actually correcting things because not always are the emergency procedures
actually addressing the cause. A lot of times they're just
addressing the emergency at the at the moment, right. But yeah,
it's amazing. So I have a new order of things now,
I think because of my background. So I would say
number one issue for health is the having the proper

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electromagnetic system of the body, which is like the body's software,
which is what really controls your innate wisdom and keeps
us connected to the creator. This source energy is coming
from the Creator into this system, and then this system
starts forming the body, and then as it breaks off,

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it forms the meridians and the acupuncture points and the
chakras and all those other things. But it's a deeper system.
And then of course I would say, after that mental
emotional has to be huge. Then after mental emotional you
have your ninety essential nutrients, and then after that you
have toxins. Those are your big four causes because of

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the electromagnetic systems aren't working, the software isn't working, which
gets interrupted with mental emotional. You can take all the
supplements you want, but your body can't even use them
because you don't even have a software system. And I
think you know if you read between the lines, MODERNA
I think was one of the worst jabs that came
out from my testing on all the different samples I got,

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But they were the most honest because they came right
out and said, we developed a software delivery system and
it's plug and play, because they knew your body has
a software system and they just wanted to tap into
it and alter it.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Are you familiar with Arthur Hill Grimmer who was an MD,
or another medical doctor named Abrams, Yes? Yes, yeah. Abrams
came up with his bipolar theory of disease and as
far as he was concerned, the human body is a
big magnet where a big electrical circuit that the stomach

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produces the acid. The bones provide the base. The brain
is the positive pole, the liver is a negative pole,
and that illness or health is directly related to the
polarity of different parts of the body, and he really

(15:33):
took it to the next level because he developed a machine.
I think it was called the acyloclast. I think it
was a really kind of a rudimentary electrical circuit that
he would put blood inside of the circuit, live blood,
and then different homeopathic medicines with different botanical medicines, and
it would facilitate the selection of the proper remedy just

(15:58):
by trying to match the polarities of the person's blood
with the medicinal substance. It was fascinating work kind of
died off in the early nineteen hundreds, thanks in large
part to the jack booted thuggery of the FDA, but
nonetheless nonetheless really interesting. And you know, in nature pathic medicine, right,

(16:23):
the concept of the vital force, right is it's the
vital force runs the show. Yeah, that's right, And the
vital force is the spiritual energy which you know informs
and inhabits the human body. That's I mean, it's how
did you figure all this stuff out? Man?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Slowly? Over years and I think I had twelve years
of research in my book. Took me of about five
years to write it after I had the research done.
But figuring out how the measure room, and it's a
lot of work, but I don't know, you know, God
is always just blessed me with coming across the right
people at the right time. Like another part of the
funny story is, I see when did I get my

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end two thousand and nine or did I finish in
twenty ten? But I actually have clinical practice now all
the way back to two thousand and three, because when
I was just once I found doctor Barron, I wasn't

(17:31):
back at college right, I was at home, and they
did something really cool for me. They video recorded all
of my classes and sent them to me and allowed
me to continue to school from home, just like I
was at college, which was really awesome, and they didn't
do that too often, but I thought that was cool.
I was back at home and one of the things

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I did is I started coaching a kids team and
there was a guy there. He would always show up
the wife and showed up, but he always showed up
for his kids games. And one time I think I
took a puck to the wrist or something, and he
came over and he looked at it and he did
a couple of different things, and I was like I'm like,
you're a doctor. He's like yeah. He's like, I'm like

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you're not just a normal m D doctor, are you.
I'm like you do something different. He's like he's like yeah,
why yeah. I'm like my MDS wouldn't have looked at
my wrist like that. And he's like, yeah, well, actually
he ran a hospital here in Ohio, emergency care and
he was quitting because he realized he wasn't helping anyone
and he was opening it a turnative, alternative holistic clinic,

(18:36):
him and his other partner friend. And he's like, well,
I'm also you know, we're going to take over a
doctor in Cleveland who's holistic and he's retiring. And I
was like doctor barn and he's like yeah, He's like
I see doctor Barron. And at the time I was
also studying. The other thing I was doing at the

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time was bio elect dermal screening biomeridian, which, for those
who don't know what that is is doctor Vole came
out with the way of measuring acupuncture points using O
meter basically, and he made they made up this fancy
device you hold one electrode in one hand and then
they have a probe and they literally measure your acupuncture
points and then they would put products either on the

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test plate or whatever and find out what balanced your body. Well,
that was really helping me too, and I was doing
that at the same time, so I wanted to learn
how to do that, obviously because of my engineer background.
So I learned how to run the machine. So when
I met this doctor and he's like, oh, yeah, we're
opening it this clinic like in a month, and I
was like, oh, yeah, going to do any electrodermal screening.

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He's like yeah. He's like. I'm like, oh, I know
how to run that. He's like, oh, well, we don't
have anyone. I'm like, well, how about once I graduate,
I come work at your clinic. So when I graduated
in two thousand and three, with my undergrad I started
working at this clinic with these two medical doctors. So
I didn't have an d or anything yet, but they
were teaching me everything they knew and that's how I

(20:04):
started out.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well that's how you make God laugh, right, tell them
your future plans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So I guess I've always just kind of been in
the right place at the right time where he brought
people across my path that knew something and I just
kept running with it until I developed this system.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
And so is the system that you've got now with
you know the meridian points like the master meridian points.
Is that something that Joe Schmoe from Idaho can learn
and do for themselves at home or is it more
like chiropractic where you really have to go to somebody

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who's been trained at how to do it? Or what's
the deal?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
It can get very complicated, and we have practitioners for training,
but the actual applications in the book. And we have
an ebook now and the big tech books. The ebook's
a little bit more simple for the common person and
it's more of a self help book. Literally says, place
one hand here, place on the other hand here. Wait
five minutes, then move this hand. Yeah, and if you

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can do that, it works. We have little kids. We
just teach them where to place their hands and it works.
They don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You gotta love it. I have a granddaughter, she's I
think sixteen months or maybe not even don't quote me
on that, but she's got hip dysplasia. Both of her
hips are out of the socket and I gave her
a homeopathic treatment. One of the hips went back in,
but the other one is not in yet, So I'm
assuming there's something that I could do there to help.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, point two and point fifteen, and point fifteen is
on the point fifteen is more of the front of
the body, so it's around the pubic bone at the crease.
So you find the center of the pubic room, come
over to with the crease, so you're still on the
pubic bone, but that's where the fifteens are. By now
the twos are probably more important, and they're right above

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the hip bone on the back, and it governs the
hip area, those two points governing the whole pelvic griddle. Okay,
So I would put the child probably she would probably
want to, probably want to. So like you got the
book and you looked at the two sequence, there would
be a whole sequence of what points to touch to

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get point number two working correctly.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, So would I put the child's hands on those
points or my hands on those points?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Probably your hands. Now there would be a simple self
help that she could touch for herself.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Mm hmm. Okay, very good. Well, you know I'm all in,
let's go, But.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
We have a device now, that's kind of like what
you were talking about. The one I use now is
called QUEST four. It's phenomenal, but it's bi all feedback
through energetic testing. So the database is loaded with I
don't know now, I've outloaded tons of stuff in it myself.
I bet it has three to four hundred thousand different
energetic signatures.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, I've I've always been somewhat skeptical about about that,
just because it doesn't make sense to me, right, because
they have a limited understanding of it. Right, So when
you download a frequency into the software, I mean, how
do you do that? What? What? What? What are you
actually doing? Pragmatically?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
You're either getting it from the company or I have
to put it in myself. So I would have to
take a substance and put it on a plate and
it would program it into the computer, so it would
copy the energetic signature of that substance.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
But how does it do that? I mean, what does
it do? What are what is? You know? What what
makes the plate work? How does that? How is that?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's a light and vibration, So it's a like electromagnetic plate,
almost like a coil, but it also has like light.
So then when that comes up through it's picking up
the energetic signature of the of the And I would
say energetic signature, not a frequency because like, uh, like

(24:08):
hydrogen and oxygen have frequencies. But when you put those
together that make water. H two oh, now you have
two hydrogen, one oxygen. So now you have three frequencies
coming together to make what water is, which would be
more properly explained as an energetic signature. So nothing else
has that signature. Only water has that signature. But the

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signature is like an energic fingerprint. That's how I would
explain it. So just like if you see your fingerprints,
you can see a set of fingerprints and you can
know those are human and it's a thumb. But yeah,
I get that very specific.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, I get that, and I'm with you. I'm just
a little don't understand the engineering of the device which
captures the signature.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm trying to think how well I can explain it.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
So it's an electromagnetic coil mm hm.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
So it's and it vibrates, and what it will do
it is it will analyze the energetic signature of that
substance and then translated it will take it from an
analog into a digital into the computer and then when you.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
But I don't know, I mean, how does it do that?
And how does that? How does it do that? I
mean it's you know, it's a good job if you
can get it. How does it do it? You know
what I mean? Like I understand how when you put
gasoline into a combustion engine and ignition. I understand how

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that works, right. I understand how electricity runs through a
wire more or less. I don't really think anybody understands
that quite frankly, but you know that is actually true.
I guess the concept, right, But I don't. I've never
been able to understand how these signatures are actually captured,

(26:11):
like how that actually happens, right, I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
It's almost like how you copy a file on a computer, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, or like an imprint on a record, like like
the vibration of the music in print.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I don't write.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Almost like a run.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So I'm assuming then that somewhere in this methodology that
there have been controls that have been run right, right, right? Like,
so you do that.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Because of the accuracy I see when I'm testing people
is amazing. Yeah, and I find things in the body
that are showing up super physical and I have them
go get tested and they're like, how did you know
this was here? I'm like, well, the body knew, But.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I mean for the for the substances that you're collecting
the electromagnetic signature from, Like I'm assuming you would do
that for instance, for hawthorn.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Right, anything, you could do anything? Yep, all right.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
So if if I came to your office and I
use the machine and I put I had one sample
of hawthorn and ten samples of poison IVY, and I
put them all on the plates and it ran three

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different signature captures, you would be able one hundred percent
of the time to tell me which one was hawthorn.
Should be able to Yes, But have you ever done
that something similar? Yeah, because there needs to be a
control there. Right. This is the same with applied kinesiology,

(27:55):
which I'm a big fan of. But let's be on
it or reiki. Right, it's the practitioner that's everything, and
you can mess it up.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yes, yes, definitely mean and if.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You're good at applied kinesiology, you should be able to
tell me if I'm holding the ace of spades or not,
and you know, there needs to be some type of objectified,
controlled test that actually proves it. You know, maybe the
machine needs to be adjusted maybe you know what I mean,
it's like that, and so that's that's And it's the

(28:33):
same with the rife frequency machines, right, God only knows
what those really are today. I know that rife knew
what the hell he was doing, right, But it would
be the easiest thing in the world, you know, to
take a Petri dish that they have in every high
school biology class and grow something on it like strap, right,

(28:54):
and you see it right there, and then kill it
with the rife frequency. Well why don't the people that
make those machines do that? I mean, it would be
pretty easy to prove.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
So, yeah, I think I don't think there's many good
life machines anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, it's fascinating to me. You know, the engineering mechanics
that inform this.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Stuff, and you're talking about destructive interference basically, then right
with the destroying of the strap, because it would have
to know the frequency and then reverse it in order
to kill it with some sort of energy.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Which the whole concept behind the right frequency generator, right,
that they would match the frequency of the of the bug.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
And that way it only hits that thing and doesn't
injure anything else.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah right, so yeah, I mean it's I've only heard
of one other person doing a study with that recently.
He was on like Ted Talk and then I never
heard anything about him again, So I parently it was
a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
The musician from the music teacher from sc from Skidmore College,
is that the kind of.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I think he was working with the cancer cells and stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, and then he disappeared. Yeah, Skidmore's up by where
I grew up in Staretoka.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I don't think we've heard of them since it's like
you probably shouldn't not have said anything. Yeah, but I've
seen a lot of Rife devices and none of them
are getting the results that Royal Rife reported. Yeah, of course,
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
This machine was what like ten feet tall and five
feet wide, and when he turned it on, lights in
the entire neighborhood went down because it was such an
energy sucker. So yeah, so right, I mean there is
something there there, right, definitely, and you know it needs

(30:48):
to be uh at least the way that I think right,
there needs to be some type of standardization that happens,
and you know, some type of objective measurement randomly, just
to make sure your machine's still doing what you think
it's doing. Right.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
We're actually doing that right now with water because I
had some people that came to me to see if
we can test different water samples for different filters to
see what's in it. So I'm analyzing these things and
then we're going to do a chemical lab too to
try to fire your out how accurate are we and
where do we have to adjust things?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's really interesting. Yeah, are you familiar with let's see
where that goes. What the hell was that guy's name?
He's he's forwarding this idea of the fourth phase of water. Yeah, Pollock, Pollock, Yeah, Pollock.
I went to a lecture Pollock gave about a year
and a half ago. Was fascinating.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
He's a cool guy. Yeah, plasma physics.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah that you know. Here's a fun fact now and
tell this is for the listening audience. The uh there
was a Russian pathophysiologists, I believe, years ago, and he
calculated that in order for the heart, the human heart

(32:09):
to be able to pump blood all the way through
the body, and then back again to the heart. It
would need to have contractile force, which was about a
million times greater than it already had. That the human
heart does not have the ability, the physical ability to
pump blood all throughout the body. And that, as far

(32:34):
as Pollock is concerned and other people who are looking
at this, the heart is just a valve that directs
the flow of the blood this way or that way.
There's a little bit of pumping activity that goes on there,
but mostly it's a valve, which begs the question, then, well,
what is pumping the blood? And Pollock would argue, it's

(32:56):
the fourth phase of water, because the fourth phase of
water is motile. Right. The fourth phase of water moves
of its own volition because of its nature. It's like
fire burns things because of its nature. Right. And also
it answers the question of how the hell does water

(33:21):
in the ground get to the top of a redwood
tree because osmosis, you know, after like ten feet it's sorry, Charlie,
it's it's not going to go any further. Well, how
does it get up there? You know, because there's nothing
pumping it. There's no pumps in the trees. It's not
the little what is it? It's the fourth phase of

(33:42):
water ostensibly, and the fourth phase of water. Again, for
those in the listening audience right now, when we understand water,
we've got water as the gas vapor, We've got water
as a liquid, and we got water as a solid.
There go my balloons. Three phases of water. There's a
fourth phase of water, which is between a vapor and

(34:04):
a solid. And the fourth phase of water has remarkable
physical characteristics, kind of which I think have a lot
to do with electromagnetism. But again that's out of my wheelhouse.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, spiritual that plasma water structure work. Have you Have
you heard the theory about the Some people say the
heart is actually just a vortex degenerator.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's interesting when you think about it. I mean, that
would make kind of energetic sense to me, right. But
when we start and you know it's we we have
similar paths through life because when I graduated college, when
I graduated high school, I went to Williams College in

(34:50):
northwest Massachusetts, and I was a religion major, right and
I was dis close to becoming a Catholic priest until
back in the day I started smoking marijuana. I read
the autobiography of a Yogi and then a Catholic priests
you know, tried to have oral sex with me. Oh boy,

(35:15):
my world turned on a dime. And you know I
abandoned all of that nonsense and really started, you know,
investigating all things metaphysical. The problem with all things metaphysical

(35:35):
is that they're metaphysical, right, which by definition.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Can't prove spirit, right.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I mean, so we can we have a little conversation
right now, and I stole this from the movie Contact,
But Daniel, I'm going to ask you a question, Yes,
do you love your mother?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yes? Prove it, can't prove it exactly an emotion, right.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Right, Yeah, So metaphysical things, by definition are those things
which are beyond the ability of physical science to prove,
at least with current technology. Right. So as an interesting theory,
the whole vortex thing, right, But how does that pragmatically

(36:25):
relate and you know, translate into clinical work, you know,
helping to you know, eliminate the congestive heart failure or
the enlarged heart, or the enlarged left ventricle, or the
floppy disk or the floppy valve, right, because that's where
the rubber hits the road. You got to have clinical results,

(36:48):
and then if you have consistent clinical results, you can
backtrack those to a theory. And then we're talking right,
and I kind of get the sense that that's what
you done in your book. Yep. Is that accurate?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yep, that is accurate. Well, you know what's interesting is
I was I was raised rooman Catholic myself. There you go,
and then I broke away somewhere in high school. Yeah,
because I started reading the Bible and I started asking questions.
They didn't like that, like what we're doing the things
that it says not to do, and we're doing some
of the things that we're not doing some of the

(37:24):
things that says to du It's like, oh, got here.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know. I was just a couple of years ago,
we went to Italy for some reason. I don't know why.
I had a horrible time in Italy by the way,
really yeah, ninety percent. I'm making numbers up, but the
ninety percent, but the majority. And this was right after COVID.
It was post COVID, like immediately upgrade COVID. Everybody that

(37:52):
most people that most of the Italians that I had
interactions with were just they were lazy. They didn't care.
They were not friendly. They were the opposite of friendly.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Were you southern or central orn.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
The whole freaking country? And it wasn't just me. But
in any event, I digress. So we went to the Vatican, right,
because you're in Rome, you're gonna go to the Vatican. Okay.
So outside the entrance to the Vatican m hm. You
know what there are on both sides of the door,

(38:30):
the front door to the Vatican where all the public
goes in, there are two sculptures of any of the
pineal gland and there's a giant sphere which is an
artistic rendering of the earth, but it shows that there's

(38:53):
like seven different layers inside the earth. Hmhmm. Right outside,
right there, right in front of the front door of
the Vatican is the hollow Earth represented in artistic rendering,
and then the pineal glands. My freaking head exploded.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
They say that there's seven layers of spheres above us too,
said the seven layers, I haven't too. That's interesting as
above so below.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
So metaphysics, damn that metaphysics wouldn't wouldn't you Just what
would you give to be able to know right, to
be able to have the secret decoder ring to all
this stuff, because the simple fact of the matter is
that what we're speaking about is endpoint of fact true

(39:51):
and doesn't change based on somebody's belief, right, And so
there is a level of truth that exists, especially in
the metaphysical realm. Right, I mean the Earth either as hollow,
it's not there is a you know, a pineal gland

(40:11):
which gives you access to higher levels of consciousness or
or not. Right, wouldn't what would you give to be
able to just know? I would give quite a bit,
quite frankly, the whole key you know, but you know,
But again I digress.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
It's kind of funny too with the whole idea of
the heart with the vortex generator, because I've seen the
diagrams where they show what they also show around the Earth,
which is like the magnetic field looking like a doughnut.
The persons in the center as like hyperboloid. They're standing
in the hyperboloid, and then they have this this aura
or this biofield around them. And it's interesting to me

(40:55):
that they want people to send six feet apart, because
I think when you're closer the biofields of the magnetism
increases and it gives you more resistance against some whatever.
That could be our actual immune system could be six
feet away from our body from right now.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
It could just be the magnetism keeping things out, just
like it allegedly keeps things out of the you know,
crashing into the planet.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Boy, I never thought of that. That's that's how diabolical
is the world. Man.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
But one of the cool things he proved in his book,
and I think you can find the videos too online
of public doing these experiments is he has the structured water.
He calls it easy water, which is the fourth phase water.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And then he put a straw, so a hollow tube
in this water and they start shining light on the
water and what'll happen. Yeah, it starts pumping the water
through the hollow two.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
So he's proving that with structured water and light you
can create energy.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Fascinating stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Why they don't want to teach plasma physics.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
In the United States, Well they don't.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, those places, no one wants to teach plasma physics
because they don't want to talk about how you get.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Free energy and what's really going on with the CERN
reactor in Switzerland, right, I mean, what the hell, why
did they what what was the real purpose of.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
That giant opening up portals just like I used to
do with a bond.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, well, we're going to open up a door somewhere
and something might come through. That's a good idea. Sure,
you call the ghostbusters first, maybe have.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Them back up. Yeah. I also saw an experiment that
Pollock did, or that he was reporting on. They had
easy water and in a beaker, and they had another
beaker of easy water, and and one of the beakers
of easy water, they had a molecule of something know,

(43:00):
they had DNA. They had DNA in the water, and
they put these in proximity to each other and shone
a light on it, and the DNA spontaneously appeared in
the second vial of easy water.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, that's how my plate works.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Hey man, I'm not saying it doesn't work. Yeah, it's
all unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Stephen Greer right now, Stephen Greer is he talks about
He just did a documentary called The Lost Century, which
has to do with the governments of the world confiscating
free energy technology from people that actually figured it out
and that you know, and and also anti gravity theory

(43:55):
from people that actually figured it out, like Townsend Browns.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I have his book or a book that was written
about him.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, it's the same in medicine, but I think it's
I think it's worse. I mean, you know, given the
rudimentary tools that we have available to us as holistic practitioners,
and you know, given the amount of active suppression that's
happened in the last hundred years, I mean, the things

(44:22):
that I've seen people recover from, most people wouldn't freaking
believe it. And probably the same with you guys.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Absolutely, and you would never believe it.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And imagine where we would be had we not been,
you know, clawing our way up the ladder against all
of this ridiculous demonic I think suppression it's it's it's
remarkable to me, you know, the promise that's held inside
of the wonderful world of holistic medicine, you know.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
And I was just looking into the whole World's Fair
era eighteen hundreds, this Cabage Hatch kids where they were
talking about repopulation, repopulation from what from the Civil War deaths?
Or are we talking about another reset that happened more
recently where they decided to kill off all the adults
because there would be the ones that remembered the technology

(45:14):
that they were destroying. After the world's fairs like a
big Hurrah is like the last sendoff party. If you
send everybody back to nothing, It's just it's very strange.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
If we had a real, you know, health freedom, free
marketplace where people actually cared about this stuff. Imagine if
we had the finances and the resources that do the
research they do on drugs.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
For alternative you know why they have money.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I spend that much money researching this type of technology
that I use, we would be miles ahead today.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I mean, I've always said it. If by some genie
in the bottle magic, we all woke up tomorrow and
there were just as many holistic practitioners as they were.
Universities did fifty percent of their research on holistic stuff
and fifty percent on drugs, and you know, we could
practice with immunity anywhere, and they had the hospital privileges

(46:11):
and insurance paid for all of it. If that were
to happen in two years, nine of medical doctors would
be out of a job because the only people that
would still have jobs would probably be the surgeons in
the emergency traumacare and the military field doctors right, because
you're right. In a free market, people gravitate towards what works.

(46:35):
We don't have a free market. And that's the only
reason that the mds are in the top dog spot,
because they legislated themselves there and they're keeping themselves there
with the unbelievable power of the pharmaceutical in organization.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Oh, you know, back to my story, I never said that.
You know, the original MD gust intologists fired me as
a patient because when I had to report, I was like, oh,
I'm not taking to drugs anymore. I'm doing all this
natural stuff. And he was like, what, well, you can't
be my pitsion anymore, and you have to sign this
for him because I'm not going to be responsible for

(47:11):
when you die. I'm like, I'm not gonna die.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I saw this funny, this funny New Yorker cartoon years ago,
and it was this, you know, it was a doctor's
office in the doctor's exam table, and sitting on the
exam table was Buddha in a cross legged position. He
was levitating above this table and there was this big
our around him and this old bent over you know,

(47:36):
eighty year old doctor who looked, you know, like he
had severe ostioporosis was there and he had his he
had his stethoscope, and the caption underneath the picture said, Wow,
looks like you've been messing around with holistic medicine again.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, I'm the sad part that that is exactly how
they think.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, he broke.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
And witchcraft and were a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, you know what's even more tragic? Right? What's more tragic?
I think in which kind of speaks to the uh,
the the cowardice for lack of a better word, that's
built into the m D profession. How many times have
you treated people successfully with the chronic illness that they've

(48:28):
been going to conventional medical doctors for forever? And then
that person goes back to the conventional medical doctor and
they're cured, and the conventional medical doctor never calls you
up to figure to say, what the hell did you do?
I've never seen anything like that? How the hell did
you do that? Where's your office? I need to come tomorrow?
Tell me what the hell you did? How many times

(48:50):
has that happened to you?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Almost none?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, what's happened?

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I had one dentist who was interested, Yeah, because he
wanted to know how I found it too. We're on
someone's tooth. It was growing on the root of the tooth,
and he didn't think they had any problem with your
teeth until he didn't an xt ray and he was like,
how did you know this. I'm like, well, that's what
my device said. There was something wrong with that tooth
and it was really really physical. So I told the
person to go get it checked out. But other than that, nope.

(49:18):
I did have one doctor here in Cleveland clinic who
was part of the Functional medicine and he never talked
to me, but he would refer to people to me,
And I don't think he's there anymore because they wouldn't
let him do what he wanted.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
But yeah, yeah, I don't have a lot of I
don't have a lot of kind words for functional medicine doctors.
I don't have a lot of kind words for a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I don't either. I think functional medicine completely screwed up.
Holistic medicine well, that has brought in synthetic vitamins, and
everyone thinks that their stuff is It's like, you're not
using nature, You're just yeah, you're treating the body just
like you did allopathically, except you're using synthetic vitamin which
is still dry one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Correct. You think you're smarter than God, or you don't
believe in God. You think you're smarter than nature. And
you have an idea that you should force the metabolism
of the body this way, but you're going to do
it with megadoses of fractionated nutrition. And that's what floats
your boat. Really, it's nuts. Man. Where did you go

(50:24):
to nature pathic school?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Life training institute? You never heard of in Texas?

Speaker 2 (50:29):
No, But you know, here's the thing. This again for
the listening audience, there are the nature pathic community in
the United States is divided, yes, and always has been,
because there are traditional schools of nature pathic medicine like
the one that you went to, and then there are
more formal schools of nature pathic medicine which are accredited

(50:53):
by the United States Apartment of Education and which offer
doctoral degrees which you can then use to get licensed
to practice nature pathic medicine right now in twenty four
states in the United States. And as you know, I
was right on the tip of the spear in the

(51:15):
late eighties early nineties of the reemergence of licensed nature
pathic medicine into the world. I was there, I knew
all the players. I was there, I saw everything that happened.
And back in those days there was a big fight
between the traditional schools of nature pathic medicine and the

(51:38):
formal schools of nature pathic medicine. What's happened now since
right around the turn of the century, the formal schools
of nature pathic medicine where I went, they're not teaching
nature pathic medicine anymore. They're teaching this weird green allopathic bullshit,
which is very similar to functional medicine, and it completely

(52:03):
misses the entire freaking boat. And so it's I'm really
glad you said all that. Yeah, I'm uh, because I.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Came at the end of that one. I decided to
go to the nature path I looked at at the
time there was best year there was. I don't even
know if they're around anymore. There was a Southwest yep,
Southwest in Arizona. I think that did they get shut down?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
No, they're still there.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
They were trying to do a naturopath and a acupuncture program,
and I think they got in trouble with the acupuncture
program or something. But when there was one other school
I looked at, and when I went to them, I
was like, you want me to be an MD and
mess around with some herbs. I'm like, this isn't what
I want.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah, but that wasn't that way in the eighties and
the nineties. It wasn't that way. It was actually really
good training and holistic nature pathic vitalistic therapeutics. But not
anymore so I can't you know, what comes to me.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
All I went to is that you I actually got
to go in person though. Still, so it wasn't just
a you know, do a class online, because there's some
of those schools too where you could literally do it
in a weekend. It's like, that's not a degree.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, that's not a degree. Right. So but people ask
me all the time now because you know, you get
results and people want to know, oh, my son, my
daughter wants to be a nature path where should they go?
And I say, they've got to go to the one
in the traditional schools, because if you go to the

(53:36):
you know, academia nature pathic, you're you're not going to
be taught nature pathic medicine. As a matter of fact,
you're going to be taught all this woke nonsense and
you're going to come out with your head up your ass.
So it's a it's a travesty. Really, it's a shame.
It breaks my heart when I think about it, and
it's a problems.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And that's another reason why I try to do what
I do with the biophysics and energetics, because doctor Glitting
gets it and most of you were learning this. But
when you look at nutrition and diet, that whole field
of supplentation is so much bs it's unbelievable. Ninety percent

(54:19):
of the companies out there are making crap, but when
you get in the field of bio energetics, it's just
as bad. Most of it is just new age nonsense
and just oh we're going to write on the clouds,
Like what the hell does that mean? And how's that
going to help anyone? Yeah, and it sounds great, but
it doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah content, yeah, yes, oh yeah, okay, fine man, Okay.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
So when people ask me about this stuff, it's like, oh, well,
there's a thousand devices out there being sold on the
market and I maybe have or or five maybe that
I would actually ever consider using, because most of them
are just all crap.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yeah, it's a tragedy.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Really, they forced the body. It's not really natural. It's
like we're gonna go find a tree, We're gonna hook
those leads up your body and pass electricity through. Not
the way it works.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, well in nature. So who was the who was
the huckster back in the day? Was it you know,
the carnival guy? Was it Bailey Bailey? It was a
lot of there's a lot of pet barnums in holistic medicine.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
There is.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
I don't remember him because of the animal crackers.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I used to I used to love animal crackers, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Where are they gm o wheat with right iron and
like satan?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Not in nineteen sixty two they weren't.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
It's true. It's funny. Now we're a point where the
people I see that are usually the healthiest is the
oldest people that come into office. I got people in
their nineties. I'm like, oh, you grew up when you
actually had real food. I have the two year old
that comes in and her health is worse than the
ninety year old because they've never seen real nutrition. Definitely
didn't get it from their parents.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yeah, they had that DHA and all the other trap
that they put into the formulus. Oh my good.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, and all of which, by the way, was done
on purpose. Yeah, done on purpose, right, because the patient
cured is a customer lost.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
And I think that's a big thing people can't understand
because they have why you know, I just had a baby.
They have to be nice and clean, they were just born.
I'm like, uh, they're more toxic than you, and they
have less nutrition than you because they got everything from you.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You know, it's amazing anymore, It's amazing to me given
the crap that most people eat, and the lack of
nutrients that most people have, and the amount of toxicity
that exists in people's bodies. I mean, it's amazing to
me that people aren't, you know, dying in their thirties, right.

(57:11):
I mean, I think it's a testament to the what's
the word, the uh, the resilience.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
I was about the same thing.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
That's yeah, of the human body that you know, we
make it to seventy given all this crap. I mean,
it's like, never ever, ever ever changing the oil in
your car. Never do never ever doing that, Like Rebecca,
and you know, you're driving the car for seventy years
it's like, wow, it blows my mind quite frankly.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
But I but again, I know if I would if
I went back on a standard American tie and went
back to eating McDonald's and all that crap, it would
last for a couple of months and my health would
be awful.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Again I did that, and if when we were in Italy,
one of the things I tell people not to eat
is olive oil because the oil will oxidize in the
bottle and be a free radical donor. So you know,
we're in Italy and I'm pissed off because everybody's mean, right,

(58:20):
and and I screw it, man, I'm going to have
some olive oil because it's everywhere all the time. I mean,
you throw a stick and you hit olive oil in Italy, right,
they have to have the frustrut. For seven days, we
were there for twenty one days. For seven there's the
longest vacation I've ever taken. For seven days, everyone just

(58:40):
eat olive oil. I don't care, no more prohibition. Right
around week two, my gums got super inflamed and there
was this white crap that was accumulating in my gums.
Every morning. I thought, what the I'd never seen, never
had that before, never, and it was a problem, and
my lips got cracked and swollen, and I'm like, holy

(59:01):
what is going on here? And it's the olive oil.
I stopped eating the olive oil. It all went away
in like four days.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Now. Is it true that in Italy they don't they're
not allowed to use like thy fass e in a
certain type of GMO in the in the week. So
is the bread better there? Is that just and the
pasta better? Or is that allbs because exported? I don't
think it's the same rule. So even if you buy
something that's important from Italy, I think if they're exputting
out of the country, their restrictions for what they're selling

(59:29):
there don't apply, so they can sell the same crap
that they sell here with the same chemicals in it.
I think I'm not one hundred percent sure about that.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Might be.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I've had a lot of people report to me that
they can eat the wheat in Italy and they have
no problem, but they can't even look at it here. Yeah,
So I don't know, but I know there are European
states that won't use lifeless a or they won't do
any of the refining or fortifying.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
And right in a free medical market, sell it to
a America. Right that all this stuff would have been
figured out. I mean, I cannot, even with good conscience,
tell somebody how much water I think they should drink
every day, because I don't know who knows. Everybody's got
their own freaking idea. Everybody's got their own homespun theory.

(01:00:20):
You can talk to one hundred different nature pasts. I'll
tell you a hundred different things. No, yeah, not quite, frankly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Just listen to Michelle Obama from twenty was it sixteen
with the Drink Up America campaign? Just before everybody got
sick and because of poison water? Do you remember the
drink up America thing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Oh my god, drink up America and take at least
a gallon a day, you America.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I'm really.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Right. Why do they spend money on that campaign? If
there wasn't something sinister about that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
It's amazing. We still we have sent the senses of humor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Get you gotta laugh on your way to hell. When
you get there, it's not gonna be any fun.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
That's crazy, right, crazy world? What are we going to do?
Keep chipping away at the rock of human suffering.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Still happen. What do you guys think of having four
to five, you know, vaccines ready for a disease that
they haven't even given a name yet, disease X.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
I'm sure they're looking. You know, they're going to work
with the technology everybody the last time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Even though nobody really is sure what the hell of
virus is or where it comes from. Is it exogynous,
is it endogenous? What the hell is going on with
the virus anyway? What do you think, doctor Manzo?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Ah, I think it's mostly all weaponized. But my description
of a virus is nothing more than an exactly the
same thing as a computer virus. I think it's bad
software that they can put into some other pathogen or
into nanotechnology, and when it gets into your body, your

(01:02:13):
body either reads it or it does not. So either
innate immune system says, oh that's bad information, I'm not
going to read it, or the body says, oh I'm
going to read that. And once your body reads it,
it does whatever it's programmed to do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
So how would you combat that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Erase it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Well? How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Magnets?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I use magnets about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Well, how do you do that? Yeah? What type of
a magnet do you use? Where do you place it
on the body? Or what the hell do you do
in the grab mine?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Strong?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
When I make these magnetic sticks and then we just
made these big circles around the person's body.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Are those neodymian magnets?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
And what what what strain?

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
You gotta drop your eyes too if they're if they're
super strong, they'll pull from your from your lenses.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yeah, we couldn't do it when he's stronger than this.
I'm trying to think what one this was. I have
it written down somewhere I can get it to you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
We should have Ken Wheeler on with us right now
because we tried to.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Do the next one up and it was so strong
that we have a guy that we have that helps
us build these, and he's a big guy prison guard.
It flew out of his hand and attached to his
truck and he had to use her crowbar. The kid
on the truck. I was like, that's too strong. Yeah,

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but that's for disabling the nanotech.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
In the body.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
That race is the nanotech and once you have erased
its software, it's program you can detox the nanotech. Huh,
just with normal detox, like whatever you would normally do
to detail.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Well, there's no such thing as a normal detox. So
what do you use in acetyl systein? What do you use?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Uh? I like corilla, sometimes zeolite, but you have to
get the right type.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah all right, well that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
But then you also have to do the normal nature
pathic rules of detox.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
There's no such thing. So what do you do to
detox people nature pathically?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
The five things I look at is make sure they
have nutrition so they have the energy to detox.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Then I'm looking at what's gonnaklate, and I'm trying to
find usually an herbal kulator like the corilla. We actually
have a three greens one that's like corilla, cilantro and something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Else doesn't work. I've read studies I've done before and
after studies with klorala and cilantro, and they do not
They do not pull heavy metals from the body. They
do not.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Does born help it like they say it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
DMSA is the only thing I've ever seen do it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
DMSA was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah, d ms A was awesome. Dime methyl sex cynics,
whatever I don't know, but the Food and Drug Administration
made it a prescriptive item in the in the early
two thousands. Why would they do that because it was
a safe and effective oral keylator of heavy metals. It worked.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yeah, because that's what he had me do back then.
That's how he tested me. He would have me take
those and then you know, you would pee in the
container and then he sent it into lab to see
how much heavy metals was in me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yep, well, I did the same thing, right. We did
this a control right with with take a bunch of klirella,
take a bunch of cilantro, do a twenty four hour
year in collection, and then measure it and then compare
it to you know, a urine sane. Before you did that,
there was no difference. But when we did DMSA, it

(01:06:08):
worked lead and mercury and arsenic. It was unbelievable. One
of the most remarkable cures I ever had when I
was first out of medical school was with a nine
year old boy I think maybe not even somewhere between
five and nine. He had irritable bowel bad and you know,

(01:06:29):
conventional medicine didn't work. The parents brought him to me
for some reason, and I was really into heavy metal
analysis and detos at the time. I ran the DMSA
test on the kid and he was super high in arsenic.
Oh h like, oh my god, super high in arsenic.

(01:06:50):
Like you know, call the Environmental Protection Agency, what the
crap is going on? Right? So, long story short, we
keylated it out of him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
That's an multiple poison.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
The irritable bowel went away. Plus he got his life
back right. His father was a carpenter and back in
those days, there was a type of pressure treated lumber
called walmonized lumber that the deck on their house had
been built of, and walmonized lumber had arsenal projected in
it to kill the bugs. So this kid was soaking

(01:07:23):
up arsenic into his body by crawling around on the
deck for five years and then he got toxic. And
it's good thing his parents brought him to me, because
if they hadn't, if somebody hadn't figured that out, and
he would have died.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
And you know, it's calling around on a deck. That's
a mess up. Man. Poisons can be anywhere everybody. I mean,
that's the thing is they don't you look for the
invisible unicorn as reasoning but you let things get injected
into you. You eat, God knows what you breathing, God
knows what you drink, Gotten knows what. And then you're

(01:08:01):
exposed to just touching God knows what. But it's got
to be that virus thing that they told you about.
I mean I would maybe, I mean maybe run that
that scenario by like doctor Tom Cowen and uh, doctor
doctor Stephan Lanca whoever. He gets all that information from
his doctor, Stephan Lacah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
He steals all his information from.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Yah, Yeah, from doctor Stephan Loca.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Mostly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Yeah, I can tell you what it's not, but I
can't give you any options on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
What to do, right, he can, He's really good to
tell you what it isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Is there any way to get the d M S O.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
M. I mean, here's yeah, a company in South Africa
that sells.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
It and you can get without prescription that way, because
I think you told me that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Well, I mean, I don't know if there are you know,
penalties for like you can go to Mexico for example,
I go to Mexico once a year, you know, for vacation,
and you're at the you're at the airport in Mexico. Right,
they've got a pharmacy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
There every five feet what any drug.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
You want, just about no prescription, no problem, you just
buy it, so you know, I don't And and then
you get on the plane and bring it into the
US and what the hell? So I don't know if
the FDA is going to get up anybody's ass.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Literally, because it's the customs guy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
So what I tell people to do if they want
to do it heavy metal detox is just get it themselves, right,
and I'll i'll, I'll punch you over the protocol for it.
But it's pretty easy and it's pretty straightforward.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
So Bent and Knight Clay nothing, huh doesn't help?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Well, I don't have a really aculator anyways. I think
it's more of a binder.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Lator, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah, you know that was doctor Christopher's Was it Christopher
Death Begins in the Cold. Did you ever read that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
I think so. I think it was doctor Christopher.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yeah, that was one of his big cure alls, was
Bent Knight Clay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I was told that they can it can come to
you like lousy would lead if they didn't extract it properly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Well that's interesting, yeah, probably.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I mean, who knows, but you can possibly just be
getting sick if it's pulling. But like they said, we
need to take the baths and you can eat it
and all this sort of stuff. I mean, if you're
detoxing and it's pulling it from where it's been dormant,
I'm sure that's probably another reason why you're sick. It
might not necessarily be because there was already lead in it,
So the heck knows, right. I just know that we
tried our steps on and he got very ill after it,

(01:10:39):
but it was because he had He wasn't in our
care at the time, and he got shots at the
school for school. So we tried to get everything we
could think of to try to get it out of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
So, you know, imagine what we could do if one
of these hedge fun guys was listening to this podcast
and you know, had a Aha moment and wanted to
throw twenty million bucks get a holistic research facility. Imagine
what we could do in just in five years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
You better not tell anybody intoxico.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
You're right. I don't think the FDA would be okay
with that for more than six months. And if we
did it in the US, I think Pollock was actually
trying to do that. Doesn't Paulack have an institute where
they're you know, doing out it does out of the
box research on things like easy water, Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

(01:11:35):
I think Greer also has a place where they're trying
to recapture you know, this free energy technology and then
instead of patenting it just put it out on the
web for everybody to just use, which is freaking awesome
as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
That's the only way you can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
There's other ways.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
You get stuck with these tests cars and everyone thinks
that's the new Tesla. It's like, that's not a Tesla car.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
If it was running off the ether or water, that
would be a Tesla car.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Hello. Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Doctor John Bergman as a practice in Tijuana as well
as Huntington Beach, and I think he's at the Tijuan
one mostly, but they do holistic dentistry out there, and
he does He's got like a stem cell apparently growing
in cultured in lab, so it's not like killing babies
or anything like that. I don't know how they actually
do it, but there's all kinds of things that he's

(01:12:34):
doing out there with that. You couldn't do here, God damn,
and they wouldn't let him do here. So he's uh,
but he's a chiropractor, but he does. He has like
like I said, he has the natural dentistry and all
that other stuff going on the same same facility.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Is he the one on YouTube always has all of them?

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah, with like one hundred thousand subscribers. Yeah, he's a
he has a really most part he has good really cool. Yeah,
that's pretty cool. Like when he was talking about the
terrain theory and the myth of like a flu season.
He's like great marketing, great marketing. I've lived in. And
he really cuts down on the whole you know, virus

(01:13:13):
is a lie thing, which is good because more people
should be talking about bay Shop, more people should be
understanding that. In the eighteen hundreds just already put the rest,
but it came back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
He does it really good on the mineral stuff. Yeah,
but I think he pushed he pushes a little bit
too much of the synthetic.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Oh does Yeah, don't the doctor Eric Berg does that.
I don't. There's I'm talking about yeah, doctor John Bergman,
I'm talking about Eric Berg. You know, I totally agree
with that with that statement, I don't I don't think
there's had attention to that anyway. When it comes to
the natural stuff. I don't think there's there's any people

(01:13:56):
that I've recounted that actually are that adamant about the
whole food sources of things.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
You know. Ever, hear of a nineteenth century Christian monk
named Jacob Larber, Yeah, you should look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
L O.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
R B E R. He wrote a little pamphlet called
the Healing Power of Sunlight. Okay, And I mean this
guy was a Christian mystic. Nice he had access to,
you know, real information. Again, he took the whole sunlight
thing and just ran with it. He was saying, you

(01:14:35):
could regrow What started me thinking about it was the
tooth thing. You started talking about it. He said you
could regrow teeth by using burning with a magnifying glass,
concentrating the sun's rays on. I think it was the
branch of a plumb tree, collecting the ash and putting

(01:14:56):
the ash on where the tooth should be. And he
had a lot of I mean, that's the tip of
the freaking iceberg of what Larber's talked about. And this
was in the eighteen hundreds. Right. He also had a
little like anecdotal chapter in this and I think it
was this book, or maybe it was a separate book,

(01:15:16):
or it wasn't a book, it was more like a
pamphlet where he talked about the common house fly and
that the house fly is able to defeat gravity not
by its wings. It uses the wings to move and

(01:15:37):
for direction, right, but it defeats gravity by having disseminating
an electric charge in its body. That's why when we
see a little fly land and they rubbed their legs together, right,
they're creating a static charge in the body. And this

(01:15:58):
is exactly the stuff that Town's Brown was talking about
with electro grabbatics. That if you separate an electric charge
with a dielectric and you've got a negative up here
and a positive up here, the positive flows to the
negative and it creates velocity of creates lift, so he said,
and he also.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Said, bumblebees they do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Same thing, right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Lauriber also said that the fly's eyes enabled it to
see this microscopic parasitic organism that was infiltrating the skin
of people's bodies, and that's why you know you're at
the beach, or you're hanging out in the garden in

(01:16:42):
the summertime and the fly lands on a certain part
of your body and he's like moving around that one
part of your body. It's because he's eating the parasites.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
That's so we shouldn't kill him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
You shouldn't kill him, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Victor Grabnikov No, So, Victor burgnak Off was a self
proclaimed Russian scientist, biologist uh and he what he did
his he took a bunch of uh B and bug
insect whatever wings and he sent some kind of vibration
through them and he was able to levitate on a

(01:17:16):
little plate that he stood on. So he was utilizing
showing basically that it's not the way. Yeah, it's actually
the vibration between the hairs and the stuff like that
that actually caused the the the lift to occur and
he was able to like levitate off the ground. It's
Victor Gribbinikoff g R E B E N N I

(01:17:36):
k O V anti gravity levitation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
You know the guy that built the Coral Castle in Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Edward Ellen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yeah, to read his little pamphlet I did.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
We're talking about the plump, well, not the plumbob but
it's it called the flywheel the yeah for the lead scleon.
He he, he is a freemason too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
He said that the reason that the gravity exists, he says,
it's it shouldn't be called gravity, and that electricity is misunderstood.
As far as he was concerned, adams are magnets that
would be goodness, and that due to the immense pressure
that's at the center of the Earth or any planetary body,

(01:18:25):
the preponderance of magnetic force that's projected outwards is I
think it's a positive electromagnetic field, and that it interacts
with the negative electromagnetic fields in everything and attracts it

(01:18:47):
or something like that. And he sensibly had figured out
away by chaining batteries together to create an electric charge
that he would disseminate in you know, one of those big,
you know, whatever type of rocket. Was that the coral
castle was made out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Of coral rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Wasn't it altering. It's the dispersion of electricity and polarity
inside the rock that would then make the stuff coming
out of the ground push it instead of attractive.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
And some of the kids said he was lifting rocks
with two snow cones in his hand. Yeah, because there's
our ice cream cones. Because it was some kind of
cone device that he was utilizing to channel the positive
and negative with it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Now, Townsend Brown said the same thing. This skuy Lord
said the same thing, that it all has to do
with the electrical charge and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
They knew all this way way way back.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
When you know, well, you know what's fascinating. It's the
same thing with the body is one of the things
we do like in our classes, and I do it
with the Usually when people come in for the first
time and I'm doing evaluation, I do a quick hands
on evaluation, checking all the points and stuff. But you
can put your hand underneath the person's body and just

(01:20:06):
feel for weight, move it around. When you find the
areas that are heaviest, it's usually where they have the
most energy congestion. And if you work on that area
of the body and get the energy moving, they'll become
like as light as a feather. And it doesn't matter
how big the person is. It doesn't matter if they
look like they're eighty pounds or if they work like
they're five hundred pounds. You get the energy congested, they'll

(01:20:28):
be super light.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
My head is definitely the heaviest part of my body.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
In fact, sometimes I'll do a test where I, you know,
get where I can barely lift a person's leg, just
enough pressure where I can almost bare light lift it,
and I will move on the different points on the
back until becomes super light. And when I find that point,
I know that's the point that's congested and the energy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Flow stiff as a board, light as a feather.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Game, Right, it's wild. People can't believe it until they
experience and they're like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah, that is wild, and so much to know, so
much to understand, so much that's been hidden by us
on purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
And still probably in the vaults of the Vatican. And
uh yeah, part of the part of the upper echelon
of the of the Freemasonic and other secret society orders
who keep all that information for themselves. They seem to
live enough a long time too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
That's what Adrina chrome will do. Well, I'm gonna go
get me some neodymium magnets and a piece of wood
and a drill, baby, and I'm going to change the world.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Let's will run your credit cards and your cell phone?

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Uh would would would crystal crystal wands ate out of
different crystalline substances ostensibly do the same thing. And does
it have to be a magnetic field.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
It would have to be a magnetic field.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
I mean it's possible if you were able to program
those crystal wands with the right inverted frequency m hm,
just like the rife caused the destructive interference. But that
would be really, really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
I thought you were going to the analemma wand in
the glass route when you first started talking about the
crystal because I know that has those on his website too,
So it's trying to talk about coherent that structured. Can't
use that word coherent water. Spin on it an eighty

(01:22:46):
dollars stistick for your water. Tell me that's not sneak oil.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
T B would be proud. Yeah, well, it looks like
we like we've wasted a perfectly good hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
I think it was great. Keep watching very intently. It's
very cool answering your questions.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
But hey, you get that's right. You didn't answer any questions.
Son of a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
You want to do five minutes and give everybody calls?

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah, I got timed you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
I have time right now, all right? Anybody you heard
it abnormal, But we're gonna give you five when you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Got it six five four eight eight seven nine. That's
six one nine three five four eight eight seven nine.
And they put up on the screen. I screwed that
up already. Let me see you try that again. You
have the number on here. Yeah, boom, So there you go.
Six one nine, three five four eight eight seven nine.

(01:23:44):
You have an opportunity right now. I want a very
rare opportunity to speak to these two gentlemen. I'm just
the phone operator. You go ahead and you ask. But
every like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Divide and Conquer there was. It's a divide and conquer
has been all. If we could just get all the
holistic practitioners and even the netropaths on our side to
be doing what they're actually supposed to be doing. Yeah, somebody,
maybe you have a better fight in the game, but.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
It's like hurting cats forget it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
So somebody moxy Heart did ask a question. She wanted
to know if activated charcoal would help remove heavy metals.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Anyone, Nope, nope, zero, no, you need you need the
best thing I've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Does it help to do anything? Or is it just
a waste of time and you're just drinking charcoal.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
It's a good binder like if you get like something
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Your stomach, like if you're okay, got it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
And by the way, this is academic because if you're
trying to mobilize a metal, you can see in the
urine whether you're mobilize it or not. I mean it's
it's not rocket science, you know. So d M s
A is the way ago or intravenious EDTA, but you
got to go to a doctor for that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
And turpentine oil just still. Pine gun resin doesn't do
anything for heavy metal toxins.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
No, I've never seen it. It will. It will irritate
the bladder though, and give you bladder symptoms if you
do too much of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
It happened to me before. But also I thought this
would be really good for parasites, So it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Might be good for parasites. But like everything, right, there's
the goldilock zone. You got to hit the goldilock zone
or it's not going to work or you're going to
get side effects. Right, So what is the goldilock zone?

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
I think it's hard to find with turbentine quite frankly.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Yeah, I just would take a cap full and it
bothered me when it like once or twice, But then
after that I was fine because I got used to it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
It was what did it work?

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
As far as I wouldn't know if I had parasites
or not, because it doeshing came out. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Do you see parasites come out when you did the turburntine?

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
But I would just how would you know if they're
really tiny bearcites? If they came out and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
You would know. Yeah, if you've ever passed a parasite,
you will know. Man, you see a liver fluke come out,
you'll never sleep again at night.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Yeah, it's huge, though, that's crazy movie aliens coming out
of your butt.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
When you have to go front and grab the tweezers,
you're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Trying to crawl back up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Oh man, come on now?

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
What about ionic foot baited baths is another question from
humble painter.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
It's doing something, but I don't think it's doing what
they say it's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
It's not doing what they say it's doing. I I
I remember when those first came out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
Is that the electrode one? Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
And then water turns nasty colors and oh it's the
talkin's coming out. Well I tested it without anybody's feet
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
It's still changes colors.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
It's still changed colors.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Ah, you bastards. All right, here comes a call from California. Hello, Uh, Daniel, Yes,
how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:27:09):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Good?

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
I uh just wanted to my on your podcast right now.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
You are okay?

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Cool?

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Hi? Uh doctor Glynnon and doctor Manzo.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Uh No.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
The conversation is is Hello, I'm super glad I had
to call. This is the only second time I've ever
called a podcast. The first time was on Daniel's podcast
before I'm here in San Diego. I'm about forty three.
You guys are reminding me my mom took me to
a natriopathic doctor when I was young, and uh, basically,
my mom is the reason why I know everything I know.

(01:27:41):
But the I was trying to find hard and excuse
to call. I had five minutes, and I was like,
I got a call for something, and so I found
something concrete to call for because otherwise all this mumble
a lot. But I did make the first two comments
on this post about you're making me think about going
back to school to be a naturopathic doctor. I've been
trying to bike figure to go back to school for
fifteen years for something that cared enough about. But I

(01:28:04):
didn't care enough about law. But what you're talking to
your conversation is just super inspiring. But that said, I'll
just ask you. I remember one time I saw doctor
Glynn say something about magnesium for heartburn. But and then
I also saw somebody say something on recently about just
like maybe it's also doctor glynnon about heartburn and just

(01:28:27):
general having enough stomach acid. You need enough stuff to
produce the stomach acid, so get the nutrition. And I've
just been having a lot of smoothies. I've been making
myself the organic smoothies every day, and my heartburn has
gone away. And so I just wanted to ask you
guys about heartburn. And then I'm gonna I'm gonna hang up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
All right, Well, it's not a magnesium Okay. Heartburn is
not caused by too much stomach acid. That's impossible. The
body cannot make too much stomach acid. That's impossible. Let
me say it once again. Anybody that tells you heartburn
is by too much stomach acid is a freaking idiot.
Heartburn is caused by deficiency in stomach acid. And when

(01:29:08):
you get a deficiency in stomach acid, you get a
build up of a of a hormone in the stomach
called gastrine, which is normally suppressed by hydrochloric acid. But
when there's no hydrochloric acid there there's no The gasroom
keeps building up, and when the gastring gets to a
certain level, it opens up the top valve of the stomach,

(01:29:33):
and you know the stomach. The stomach's doing this all
the time, but because it's a white it's a white muscle,
you don't feel it. So you get a weak acid
squirting up into your throat, and that's what causes heartburn.
It is caused by an overproduction of gastring, which is
a function of a deficiency in hydrochloric acid. So the

(01:29:53):
trick is to make your hydrochloric acid healthy. And how
do you do that. You salt your food with sodium
chloride because the body needs the chloride to make hydro
chloric acid. And then you have to take you have
to have adequate amounts of calcium in your body because
there are little cells in the stomach called chief cells
and they squirt out literally the hydrochloric acid. But in

(01:30:18):
order to squirt it out, they need calcium. So if
you don't have enough calcium, which is really easy to do.
I think a calcium deficiency is the easiest efficiency in
the mineral kingdom to get. Even if you have adequate
amounts of stomach acid, you can't get it in the
stomach because it's no the pump doesn't work, So it's
a calcium deficiency as salt deficiency. There's also a yoga

(01:30:44):
exercise called the cobra which does something to the prana
in this part of the body which facilitates I love
normal functioning.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
I love you man of that part of the multedicinal tool.
The way you just came at it from another angle
like that you said the prana and yoga. It's like,
that's that's why this conversation is so powerful between the
two of you guys. And I could tell doctor Monzo,
you're a little younger, but you're you're obviously you guys
are both just you know, it says he's younger.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Does he look younger than me? Are you saying Manzo
looks younger than me? Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
You know, but he's getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Yeah, you know. I had I worked at a world
religion teacher that had a really cool teacher. He was
a if I went to his office to find out
he was a meditating Buddhist, but you would thought he
was a white Christian guy, but he was a He
was a city college uh rerural religion teacher. And he
gave an analogy about religion being at the top of
a mountain. You're all trying to get to the top
of the mountain. Yeah, yeah, we have different paths. And

(01:31:59):
it's what he said that was interesting was we stop
and try to tell somebody about their path and look
at their path, and you know if we if we
distract each other, we can stop ourselves from getting to
the path. But I think what you guys are doing
another analogy is like sharing each other's path and to
get to the mountain top.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Yeah. Well, you know, in a perfect world, I respect
the one thing that we all have in common, whether
we know it or not, is the truth, because whether
you believe it or not, there is a truth of things, right,
I mean, gasoline one hundred percent of the time is
going to make the fire worse. Right, So there is

(01:32:37):
a truth of things, and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
That's what Yes, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
That's what the three of us have in common, that
what you know. You can discover the truth through different methods.
But once you've discovered the truth, you're in its velvet
grasp forever, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
All right, So do you have time for one more?

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Guys and all kinds of I'll let Monzo take the
next one, all right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
If there's one more, I saw somebody I saw there
was a six two three missed call, so try now
go for it or anyone else yet T minus. I
don't know that clock's not even right. I can't even
tell you two thirty four maybe alright six one nine,
three five four eight eight seven nine. Last call for

(01:33:25):
the calls three five, four eight eight seven nine. We
have such a good show already. You better be a
really better be a really good question. Just kidding. Here
you go, Hello, Arizona, how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Hello? Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Then you can you hear me? I'm not hearing No,
I'm hearing clips and speak some clips? So done? Say
oh then from the United Kingdom, Hello, how are.

Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
You hello, I'm give me miss to your dog. I
have a question for both doctor Mandy and doctor Buildings.
I what a right would you give of fourth I'm
forty years old and about a year ago I wou
was a divan high that pressure and at that time

(01:34:33):
I had to present other emergency room because I had
significant palpitations and a very tight and exasperate thought I
was having a heart attack. But intugens and all the
scan run we're all normal. But my daughter actually was
significantly high. Was about one nineties, one nineties or one ten.

(01:34:57):
And I've been to several doctors. That brings some referbing
to the cardiology who want some tests. They didn't find anything,
and then I'll refer to the endocrinologist because it talks.
Because of my age, you might feel like a an
adrenale humor. But see scans. All the scants came back normal.
The doctors want to plat me on alditin that I

(01:35:18):
have refused to take it because I mean, the side
effects are kind of scary, and I know long term
for all people I know who have high blood pressure,
the end up people about three or four medications. You
know what I'm as you know as we gets older,
and then eventually they end up with other side effects
which are which I don't be which I really would

(01:35:41):
not like to have. At the moment, I'm looking at
looking into things like Gaelic and because met the kindness
that has helped the big but it hasn't brought the
blood pressure back to normal. So at the moment I
have my blood presures that my blood pressure is about
about one forty over eighty and one fifty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Okay, very good, All right, in the interest of time,
I'll let doctor Monso tell you what to do for this.
But here's here's what I want you to understand. I needia, yeah,
minerals yeah. But here before before, here's what you should understand.
You had strong and persistent symptoms. You know, you're in
the UK, so they're taking money out of your paycheck

(01:36:30):
every week every month, whether you want them to or not,
to give you access to one system of medicine only,
and that system of medicine had no idea what was
wrong with you. They did all of these tests and
they could not find anything wrong with you. All of
these ridiculous tests could not find anything wrong with you.
Have no earthly idea what's causing the high blood pressure,

(01:36:53):
And all they have for you is pharmaceuticals that are
going to manage the problem, making you weaker and more
dependent on the drugs, and you're going to get the
side effects from the drugs. So if I were you,
I'd call the goddamn doctor up and ask him for
a refund. That's what I would do. I would call
the government up and say, look, I've been paying all
this insurance money. I want it back because now that

(01:37:15):
I am sick, these knuckleheads have no idea what to
do for me, no idea what to do for me,
and I'm mad as a hatter and I'm just not
going to take it anymore. But that's me. Doctor Manzo,
What do you do for high blood pressure?

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Magnesium? But there's an idea essential nutrients, so I would
be taking all of them, but mainly magnesium is what
you need because magnesium is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:42):
Going to realize I have been taking has held and
I got a treaty little complex I said about a
month ago. That's helping.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
But well, the other question too is how much stress,
because stressed just burds up your magnesium. So if you're
under a lot of mental, emotional, they're probably not taking enough.

Speaker 5 (01:38:08):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
And remember everything works together, so I would be doing
all the minerals yeah, and vitamins together.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Yeah, that's the thing. So when you do all ninety
essential nutrients plus extra magnesium, you get a much more
robust response than if you just take magnesium. And this
is one of the methods of our magic here that
you know, Like, this is why it's called holistic medical nutrition,

(01:38:38):
because we don't just do boatloads of this or boatloads
of that, or intravenous gram doses of this. Right, we
give you everything that your body needs in formulas that
can absorb and then little extra in this case magnesium.
So that should that should seal the deal for you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
For which is both what we both recommend, because if
you're going out there and getting something like magnesium stare
eight or something.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
What a Dickens kind of clean, it doesn't have any
of the world. Also, I guess the so called massive
is the what the magnesium I'm taking. I kind of
make sure I doesn't have magnium s, the it or
silicon dioxide. But like I, like I mentioned, I'm thinking
I just got a three I have I started doing
that a month ago. I guess I'll just see.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
How that goes well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
So this is what I recommend. I don't know if
you can see it on the screen. I'm gonna I'm
gonna make it really big here, make myself really small.
Maybe hold on, here we go. I can do it, Daniel,
I'm good. These are the combination of supplements to give
you all ninety essentral nutrients. It's a combination of supplements.

(01:40:00):
One is called beyond tangy tangerine, the other is OSTEOFX.
The other is plant arrived minerals than the EFAs. This
combination of four supplements gives your body all ninety essential nutrients.
So you would need to get your hands on this
stuff and then take extra magnesium and I would do
this for ninety days. And also, if your body is

(01:40:23):
so deficient in magnesium that you've got high blood pressure,
chances are high that you've got a lot of other
things going on as well that you're just not being
mindful of, or that you just think is a function
of life. So when you do a holistic program like this,
you want to pay attention not only to well, what

(01:40:44):
the hell happens to my blood pressure? But also how
about your mood, your energy, your appetite, your weight, your sleep,
your sex, drive, the whole enchilada. Because ostensibly, ultimately, this
is not a blood pressure medicine. This is a treatment
for you, right, This is a you medicine. And the

(01:41:05):
intention here is to stimulate your body to be everything
that it can be. And you know, like the metaphor
I had before, where you never you know, somebody never
gets their cartooned up, never changes the oil. They'll get
used to driving around in a crappy car. They think
that that's just the way it has to be. So
one of the beauties to this approach is not only
will the blood pressure get better, but a lot of

(01:41:26):
other things improve as well. Absolutely, And so you know,
and that beats a poke in the eye with a
sharp stick, right.

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
I'll try the the time to time. You remember the
multile conplex.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Yeah, it's the most effective nutritional supplements I've ever seen.
And I've been doing this for thirty five years. So
I would run it up the flag pole, see if
it flies. Okay, Yeah, I remember. One forty over ninety
is the upper limit of normal. One forty over ninety

(01:42:04):
is the upper limit of normal. And in order for
somebody to be diagnosed with high blood pressure, they have
to have three consecutive readings, three consecutive readings where each
number is elevated, So you know, it's got to be
like one fifty over ninety five or you know, one
ninety over one hundred, whatever, both numbers have to be

(01:42:25):
elevated three times in a row above one forty over
ninety And if you don't, if that's not the case,
then you don't have high blood pressure. You have borderline
high blood pressure, which is a whole different animal completely, okay.
I And by the way, just to put a little
you know, druid seal on this, I'm of the opinion

(01:42:51):
that over half people who have been diagnosed with high
blood pressure do not in fact have high blood pressure
because number one, they're in the doctor's as they're nervous,
so your blood pressure is going to be a little
elevated anyway. And most of the time just one of
the numbers is elevated, not too And the nurse never
takes your blood pressure three times in a row, and

(01:43:13):
they never do that. They only take it once. And
if one number is elevated, oh you have you know,
you're going to have high blood pressure. You're on the
road to high blood pressure, so we might as well
treat it like it's high blood pressure now, So let's
just take this medicine because it's only a matter of
time until you get high blood pressure. But they don't
communicate that to the patient. They just write in the
chart high blood pressure, and then you're screwed. Honest to God,

(01:43:36):
the most important thing you or anybody else can do
to secure your health moving forward is to fire your
medical doctor, because most of the time they have their
heads so far up their rear end they can't even
see daylight. But don't get me started.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
Yep, yeah, the time you have just one one more thing. Sure,
do you think shedding could have contribute to things like
poplititions or high blood pressure? Because I kind of have
a feeling because I was around a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
Something first, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Possible, there is some kind of weird phenomena. Yeah, whatever
they've been injected with it could be causing something.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
And yeah there's a lot of Yeah, because I was
around a lot of people who have just got we
just got the boottose.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
So yeah, I think that there's something there. Mh. But
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
it is, but I think that there's something there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
And I was gonna say, by the time you have symptoms,
you're pretty deficient. So if you've only hadn't been doing
magnesium for less than a month, it's probably not long enough.
And you're saying you're seeing a little bit of benefit already.
So I think it's just you know, you need to
do the full ninety and then really give it a
little bit more time.

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
I've been Yeah, I begmisium for actually more than I
begin maggium for about it eight your nine months, but
I added them all time in the role about it
about yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Six weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Yeah, So we have to find the goldilocks zone, right,
because if you don't take enough, it's not going to work.
And if you don't take you know, enough of the
right stuff, it's it's not going to work. So you
got to take the right stuff. You got to take
it in the proper amounts, and you have to give
it up. My recommendation is before you judge any nutrition

(01:45:40):
program up or down, you give it ninety days before
you judge it up or down. Right, So I would
I would get the program that I just outlined. I'd
run with it for ninety days. Keep your fingers crossed
and see how far back you bounce.

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
If you really need something else, you can get a
hold of our office. I think Daniel will have the
information up here.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Yeah, I'll put it in at the end of the
show too, So by stick around. I put links in
the Rumble description and it's also in the Rumbled chat.
So in the description of the video and the chat
you have all the ones for doctor Peter Glidden and
the ones for doctor Manzo and for the Azure as well.

(01:46:30):
All that stuff is in the description and it's in
the chat. So the chat will disappear once the show
is over, but it'll still be in the description. So
you just go beneath the screen of the video and
you'll be able to see it all right there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
And if you contact the office, what you want to
ask for is CVA three. CVA three is a energetic
spray that I made to help with the shedding, and
I mean it really works. I have nurses all the
time reporting back that all the bad symptoms they have
working in the hospit it or around these people shedding
who took the jab and almost debilitated. And when they

(01:47:06):
started the spray, their problems are going away. Really, I
think it's the nanotechnology that they're shedding, m ok or
really it's really probably broadcasting.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
But that's you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
That's that's that's occurring between these people and you, and
they're trying to mess up your bio energetic field.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
See that's that to me makes so much and.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
That's how my spray works as it stops that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:34):
Yeah, okay, I'll look that up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Yep, c v A three because it's a third version now,
I've had to update it continuously based on what they're
these jerks are doing to us.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Now they can do it with Li Fi, Bluetooth and
Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Oh yeah, can I get a case? I need a
case of that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
I'll send you some with a book.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
All right, cool, all right, thank you, ma'am. Have a
great day, and thank you for calling from United Kingdom.
All right, so, thank you so much. Guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Yeah, pleasure man anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
All right, yes, and this week three yeah you too.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Everybody. Everybody loved it too, So thank you so much.
And if you guys have to depart, that's fine. I'll
just go eat through each one of your websites as
a as a wrap up, so you guys stick around
or you can be apart from that and whenever you
want to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
All right, well, I've got to give I have the book,
but I've got to give you my address. I just
don't want to do that online.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
Oh okay, okay, I can. All right, guys, I'm going
to end a stream.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Then.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
Because of that, you'll see the description. You'll see in
the description all the stuff that you can contact doctor
Peter Gluden. You can get on the membership program with
that link directly, okay, and you'll get two more times
a week where you can ask questions and you can
write them in if you're shy about calling. Tuesdays and
Thursdays typically Doctor Peter Glidden's information is there, so his

(01:49:04):
Eiffel Health on his website. Doctor Monzo's is also on
there for the book for the products for the quantum
energy minerals, the fullvid chemick that he has and also
the issuers for which you can get the really good
copper in the IP six I think is available now right, Yeah,
finally awesome, So there you go. All right, guys, thank

(01:49:26):
you so much until next time. I'm signing off all right,
all right now

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