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September 14, 2024 18 mins
Dr. Velma reviews some of the topics discussed in previous episodes and highlights mistakes of the CATCH Series characters that continue today. She concludes by saying how, like Adam in Gen. 2, many men experience two times when their eyes are closed:  the first, when Adam focused on his purpose and didn't consider a woman or a need for one; the second, when God closed them until it was time for Adam to meet her.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, ever run. This is Doctor Alma Talks Dating, Godly Dating,
relationships and marriage. And Welcome to episode eleven of the
podcast series. I'm excited to have you back with me
again and I hope you enjoyed the segment. This is
your time to have a conversation with me as the
best selling Christian, an award winning Christian author, certified dating

(00:27):
and relationship coach. I'm an ordained minister, a professional, certified
professional speaker, and I've been married fifty years. And what
can I say and how can I help you? And
how could what I experience and what I know serve you?
And I hope I can serve you well during this conversation,
I just wanted to share with you that we've done

(00:48):
a lot so far in terms of what we've talked about.
We've talked about believing in God, trusting this process, making
sure your relationship with God is intact so that He
can give you wisdom and lead you in this process.
We talked about preparation and self examination. We discuss The
Love is a Choice workbook as a tool you can

(01:09):
use to help uncover some things that you may not
realize you drug along the way from childhood Leading up
to this point, we talked about making sure that in
this process you're honoring God and doing the work that
you should do on yourself, making sure that you are
clearing the way for that mate that you believe in

(01:31):
God des sind. You're laying aside the weight. You're getting
rid of things that you know you need to get
rid of and your walk and your life. Also recognizing
that none of us are perfect. God makes that very clear.
We live in a sensic world. We still have the
propensity to sind, so we make mistakes. We're not talking
about that with God tells us to confess and He

(01:53):
will be faithful in justin forgive us of our sins.
We're not discussing that. We're talking about those things that
you know you need to get rid of. Look, I've
had conversations with people, and I've talked to people all
the time. I can sense the people who are always
downgrading themselves, who are always speaking negatively about their lives,
who always got to complain. Do you know that when

(02:15):
that happens, that what's in your mouth is what you're
speaking over your life, That in your mouth you have
the ability to both bless and curse your life. And
I would listen to people sometimes that they don't realize
what they're doing. They're experiencing some of these things over
and over because they spoke them, they declared it, they

(02:36):
said it would be always like that, and so you
have to be very careful. So I'm saying to you
that just by having conversations individuals, you can pick up
on some of the things that you know they need
to work on. So if you know you need to
work on these things and you're not sure, you can
always ask God to show you what you need to
work on while you're waiting for that mate, because God

(02:58):
will honor what you're doing. God will want to bring
you his best, and why would he want to bring
you his best if you're not the best. So that's
why we talked about creating a husband to be prayerless,
but also making sure you can meet the list as well.
We discuss why it's important not to put conditions on

(03:19):
your list the condition of the man, making sure that
you put quality characteristics that you're looking for. Just like
God examines the heart, you want to get to the
heart of the person, and so that's what is important.
So in Godly dating, we refer to it sometime as
dating with intent strategies dating with intent because there's only

(03:39):
one goal, and that is marriage. Dating for marriage is
what it is. All of this honors God. And so,
after after having close to forty years of conversations with
women and men and couples and the issues surrounding dating,
all of this led me to write the Catch series

(04:00):
because I wanted to lay out some of the problems
I saw, and so you see those problems spelled out
in the book series. From the Black Book, the very
first one. Even though it's focused on the daughter of
Pastor Grayson, there's stories in there that involves different characters.
And so each of the issues that he brings to
her to his daughter's attention, he uses two characters, a

(04:24):
male and a female in each of the stories, so
you will enjoy the stories. In book two, again Pastor
Grayson comes back and he's presenting more stories about the
wrong men today. And then book three, the Wrong Catch
Shield Tear Down the House, was in response to the
male readers who asked me, what about the wrong women today?
So you'll find those there. And then book four is

(04:47):
the Catch Book of Fools, where I take scriptures where
God references what a fool looks like, how a fool behaves,
and why is important for you to recognize foolish behaviors
so that you're not caught up with those kind of
things and stop thinking that God would send you something
someone that broken, because God doesn't deal with fools. A

(05:07):
fool has said there is no God. So if you
start there, you know that's not someone God would be
sending you if he's already saying there is no God.
Come on, let's be real and let's really take this
seriously as God leads you to the mate that He
has for you, both those men who are looking for
a maid and the women who are looking for a maid.
But to be honest, after close to forty years talking

(05:30):
about this conversation, sometimes it felt as if I was
the only one having this having this conversation, or the
only one with this message. And to be honest, I
felt that for a long time, and even now I
recently discovered that I wasn't the only one. I discovered
I found someone that also was challenged by having conversations

(05:54):
with singles who were confused about what should I do?
How should I go back to an ass? No, you
should not be chasing after marriage. You should be patiently
in this season during the weight like I talked about
the weight training last episode. In this season, waiting for
God to reveal. But while you're waiting, that's the time
he's building you and helping you to grow up. You

(06:17):
need to be for that person. And so I was
excited when I saw some of the same language, same
message that this person had written, same things I've been saying,
and it inspired me and encouraged me. It says that
I'm not the only one. We both me and this
other person recognize that the teaching is not being done

(06:38):
in the church. Everybody preaches about singles getting married, but
many of them are not preparing them for the role.
And that's what's important. Are preparing them in terms of
how they should explore that person. And just because someone
goes to church doesn't necessarily mean that that person is
your mate, and so it's important for us to continue

(06:59):
to talk about it. It inspired me to continue to
talk about it that what we should be doing during
the dating process, that believers should always remember to honor
God no matter what and don't sacrifice. That your first
love is God himself, So keep that intact your relationship,
be tapped in the process, and keep God at the center,

(07:21):
and God will bring the mate that he has for you.
But if you're unwilling to change some of the things
you should be changing, then that may slow down or
delay the arrival or his or her arrival. Stop using
ungodly sources to guide you when God already has a
plan for your life, both you, men and women. The

(07:42):
story and one of the first books that I wrote
was Conversations about myself and my daughters. And I remember
when I talked, oh no, I want to go back
to something else. And book one the catch No One Once,
and that story it was about the pastor's daughter who
grew grew up under his teaching to them. Now he

(08:03):
had one church that taught singles how to prepare themselves.
But then his own daughter decided she had a better
route and could do it faster and cheaper. So she
started going through men very fast. And that's why the
book is based on that conversation he had with his
own daughter. He had to do an intervention, and he
did so on a fishing trip, and he used fish

(08:24):
analogies to show her the type of men he witnessed
her dating, and so one in particular I just want
to mention to you was the lady who got tired
of shopping around at the church for a husband. Shopping around,
that's the term I wanted to use, because that should
not have been her role. She should have been waiting
on God for God to reveal her maid, and she

(08:47):
should have been working on herself. So that's what happened
to her. And so in turn, she decides to leave
the church and go down to the local bar and
look for a husband, and she ran into a catfish.
She married him. Then there was a woman who thought
the man with the book's brother suit who walked into
the office building was her ideal made because he had money,

(09:11):
he had status, he had a great job, and she
thought it must be God has sent him into the office.
You see, I'm painting a picture of some of the
silliness and silly criteria we use when we think God
is sending you a maid. And that's what happened in
this particular character. She quickly married him and found out
he was an abuser. So it's important for you to

(09:31):
recognize that these are not the way that God has
designed for you to find the maid. And then there
is one in the first book, a woman who thought
a church leader was the answer to her prayers. Well,
that's ridiculous, because again, we're all sinners saved by God's grace.
We all have the propensity to sind whether you got

(09:53):
a robe on or not. And so what she did
was she chased after a church leader and found out
he was disturbed fish. A sturgeon likes to nibble, and
that's what he did as he traveled. And so then
there's the third book, The Wrong Catch, She'll tear down
the house, based on Proverbs for fourteen and one B

(10:15):
fourteen and one A says, a wise woman builds her house.
Then it says B says, but the foolish one tears
it down. So this one is based on the women
who are the wrong Women to date, in response to
my male readers who asked me to write a book
about the wrong women to date, and in there you'll
find some crazy situations. Then the men in the Wrong

(10:40):
Women Today book, there were plenty of them who used
superficial means conditions, looked at how she looked, and that's
what they used to choose her. And so a man
married a woman who didn't where he didn't explore the
heart of this person, who didn't examine who she really
was and found out that she worked nights but had

(11:02):
no idea what she did at night. She was called
the antelope character. And so there is another guy focused
on only the beauty of the woman and did not
take the time to examine her heart or ask God
for the direction. And either of these cases God was
not invited in. So Proverbs three and six my guiding principle,

(11:24):
in all that ways acknowledge him, acknowledged means to invite in.
She didn't invite him in. These guys didn't invite God
into the decision making process, and so as a result,
he married her and she was the reason he died
in early death because of the pressure that was placed
on him to provide for her and the family. She
was called the black widow. We should not have to

(11:47):
compromise who we are in this process. And if you
remember God is walking with you, do not turn to
behavior that dishonors him. And we call singles to marry
but ignore that they need help, they need preparation, or
we ignore the stuff that are we ignore the tough
questions we should be asking and many leaders avoid those questions.

(12:10):
As we prepare our list of what we want in
a mate, male or female, that we not forget we
must be able to meet that same list. Don't expect
to prepare a list and you can't meet the list.
Work on yourself and in the end, for the guys,
she will be the best one for you. For the women,
he will be the best one for you because you're

(12:30):
honoring God and God would lead you to them. You
don't have to find anyone. God will lead you. I
want to share an example of why you don't have
to find and in my very first book, Your Adam
Is Asleep, I talked about the fact that in the
story of Genesis chapter two, if we look closely at
what occurred with Adam, and I know, we come up
with all kinds of scenarios in terms of what Adam

(12:54):
was of experiencing at the time. But I'm telling you
the scripture does not say it. So let let me explain.
We looked closely at Adam's story and I met many
like this Adam. Adam had no idea that he was alone.
He didn't he had no clue. He was not focused
on that. So I want you to be very clear,

(13:15):
because there are men out there like that. They're not alone,
they don't feel alone. They're happy and satisfied with where
they are and what they're doing. And despite what everyone
would like to think, Adam was not looking for a wife.
There are many men, godly men right now who are
not looking for a wife. They just focused on what
God's purpose is in their life. Just as the Atom

(13:36):
and Scripture, Adam was focused on his purpose, what God
has given him to do. To take care of the gardener,
he had to name the animals God hung out in
the garden, so he had fellowship. What was he looking for?
And that's the thing we miss a lot. He was
satisfied with his relationship with God and did not miss
anything that he thought he needed to have. And so

(13:58):
he had not prayed for a wife and he had
not asked God for one because first of all, he
wasn't looking in terms of a wife at all. He
was busy completing his assignment and while doing so so,
basically Adam there's two stages where his eyes were closed.
One while he was busy doing what he needed to do,
his eyes were closed to any idea of any white period.

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He was focused on his purpose. Then that moment when
God put him to sleep, and God determined as he
watched him and said, it's not good that man should
be alone. That was God's determination. And as he looked
at that, he put Adam to sleep. And as he
put Adam to sleep, he took the rib. And many
people assumed that the rib was taken from the side.

(14:43):
The script never says that. But I love the fact
that God sometimes leaves us clues in terms of where
he took the rib from. And the clue is, there's
so many millions of people in the world, maybe thousands.
I have to go back and look at my note
that have an extra rib. It's not the set of
ribs that are on the side that's there to protect

(15:04):
the organs. He didn't take it from the side, because
to take one from the side would expose the organs.
There are so many thousands of people in the world
that has an extra rib around the neck. Is the
one that goes here and one that goes on the
other side, And so therein lies where the extra rib
is found. And so to me, that's God letting us

(15:24):
giving us a clue in terms of where he may
have taken that rib, the extra rib that was around
the neck. So he took the rib and in that
DNA created the woman from Adam's rib. And after he
created the woman, he then opened Adam's eyes to see her.
The moment his eyes open, he knew this woman was his.

(15:46):
So I want you to understand this is so powerful.
I just feel the presence of the Lord right now.
That the moment, the man who is busy doing what
he's been given to do, busy doing his fulfilling his purpose.
Just as Adam was, don't see a need for a
woman in his life because he can't. He's satisfied with
what he's doing. The moment he crosses path is in

(16:09):
the presence of the one that God wants for him.
That man's eyes will open. He will see, wait a minute,
I hadn't been thinking about a wife a boy. She
surely looks like a strong contender. His eyes will open
to her. It is a man who findeth a wife.
You just get yourself ready, and when that moment is
right and you've done the work you're supposed to. Ladies,

(16:33):
God will not hesitate to ensure that your past cross
because when the man findeth the wife, that original definition
means when he meets her, when God sets it up
so that he's minding his own business, going about his day,
and all of a sudden you cross the bath and
God lets him know that's the one that he will
know his eyes will open. So I'm so grateful for

(16:56):
this time. I'm glad you to have this time with you.
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(17:18):
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(17:40):
send me your comments if you have something you want
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for me to address, because I will get into the
questions of specific questions you should use when you're examining
the person. Again, I talked about the fact that this
is godly dating, which means you're dating for marriage, you're
dating with an there's a purpose in your dating, nothing

(18:02):
more and nothing less. So it changes that high school
level of dating where you're just going out to have fun.
That's high school. We're not in high school anymore. So
I hope you enjoyed this episode. Stay connected. Feel free
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(18:23):
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feel free to check them out. You will love what
you read. Take care everybody, and have a great day.
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