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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you are about to hear
is true. The names havings to.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Protect the innocent.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You're already tips sugant. You're assigned to burglary detail. You
get a call to a clothing store in Hollywood, as
Sun wants us. The value of the stolen property is
over twelve thousand dollars. There's no lead to any of
the thief, no pattern to his mo your job, get him.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It would Winday June third, it was hot from Los Angeles.
We were working the day, watched out a burglery detail.
My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Bernard Finals Friday.
We were on our way out from the office nine
fifty six am when we got to fifteen and jew
Vine Street, Dodds Men's store.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Excuse me, one, he can tell where you find Leonard Dodd. Yeah. Uh,
Dad saidn't call it back there in the blue suits.
Thank you back. Well, I don't know how it happened, hunting. No,
I just came in this morning. I know this stuff
was gone m post hipping. This great coach haven't even
been unpacked yet.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah about two doesn't know me. Were white with a
button down college. Yeah, I called the cops and the
trans government. Yep, we're about twelve thousand. Well, a couple
of customers just came in. Honey, I'll call you back. Yeah, well,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Can I help the gentlemen with the dodge? That's right,
police officers and spanks with.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
My name is Friday. How did you do this? You
reported at burglary this morning? Yeah, you guys from Hollywood US.
They were out of Central. I didn't think i'd seen
you around here before.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Do you want to tell us what happened? Yeah, come
on back to the storeroom. Why did you first discover
this lf? Well, this morning when I came in, I
went back here to unpacked huts and died and I
found them out of the gun.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I'll get to do it. And this is our storeroom.
When a shipping from the east, the cases I could
to get a chance of unpacking.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The invoices for see, was all of the stolen merchandise
taken from this room?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not sure about that. I do know that a
ship when the sweet Jackets and Westcotts was in here.
It's gone now. A couple of cases of sure, it's
too the only way I'd have annoying if they took
anything from out of the store itself would be to
make a complete inventory. Where do you has to make
the loss at twelve thousand dollars? When it was the
last time we saw the merchandise in here yesterday afternoon?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Pop? What time?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, I have to guess it's that. I need to
say about three year, three thirty. How many doors are
either to the store?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here? That's the front one one in the back opens
into an alley. What if we can see the rear door? Sure?
At this way? One of the person I thought was
four found uf gone and I checked the door. I
was still locked. An arm system in the store, Yes, didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Go off last nineteenth. See this is a big for yourself.
There's nothing but yeah, I go into the Jimmy, Well
that's what I thought too.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I looked pretty close.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Couldn't they sign a word against? How about windows?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hm? Possibly they got into a window.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, I'm sure that two got her in there. Gosh,
see them they're good ten feet and barred. They couldn't
have gotten in there.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And we'll have our crime data. Way, who has keys
to the place?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, I've got one, Yester but who else, Well, they're
just me and now Al yeah, Al Baker.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He's sort of be a tristant manager. Whenever I'm not around.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Think he's try to think again, came thin, Listen, I
don't want you to give him any trouble. I'd try
him of anything, anything at all. I don't want to
ask him what he would only five years if you'd
call any Lucie ca't be sure of one thing? What's
that isn't anybody who works at the store didn't say,
I'm pretty sure about that. Well, I know my people,
all of them have been with me for a couple
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of years. I trust him more.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I notice that you're doing some remodeling here. How about
the workmen? Possible one of them took the.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Mercant Guys, it's Friday. Do you know how much twelve
thousand dollars enclosing?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yes, sure, I have an idea.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The both of you couldn't carry it in one trip,
not in a couple of trips.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Wherever.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
We took up a back card getting as we have
to open up to let them in and they leave
before we close. They tried to get the things out
of the store. One of us that have.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Seen it wouldn't possibly have been one of them. Frank, Kay,
you want to call a crime lab? Sure? I mean
would you call him? Yes? On the counter in front
of the store. I just don't understand it, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This doesn't seem to be any way they could have
gotten all of the clothes out, no way at all.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Only must have found one.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Ten thirty eight, the crew of the crime lab arrived
and went over the place. The whole felt checked and
all entrances and exits of the store were checked for fingerprints.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Both the front door and the rear exit were examined,
but there was no mark of for Jimmy. The windows
on the second floor were gone over, but the locks
on them were secure and there was no apparent way
they could have been used to remove the solar merchandise.
We talked to the other clerks from the store, and
then we got approximately the same story that we'd have
changed in the store manager. They verified that the merchandise
had been on the premises at three thirty pm the
day before.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
None of them could say for certain minute was there
after that.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
However, while Frank was checking with the members of the
crew from the crime lab, I called the names of
the employees into the record bureau for a check. Yeah,
that's Baker b A Ker Study m A forty sixty
five A one.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Hundred pictures of fight though you know no visible market stuys. Right,
so that's up for you. Okay, if you'll check the names,
I give you a call. Lader, Right, you got te upstairs.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's talking the week the figure for we found the
merchandise had to be come out in the daytime we
goes over that. Yeah, they they would open somebody use
the key any thinks like we do. If somebody took
the cases out playing at them and then picked the
stuff up last night or what he got up here
the winter that opens out on the rest of the
next building to check the lock, compared.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
With you know, come up, climb up you no bars
on this one? Huh over here? Get on und there
sat now what it? Yeah? Sure, this one's way. Customers
all take the snow. Enager says, if I have those
kind of the rest of snow, just taking that last night,
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plays the piece that night for the rest. I don't
wanna be here so wet with the Mitter Clothing.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Store it ex bought them because of the stolarge eyes
will we need arrangements to play State Albany for fourteen pm,
the Crime I had finished their investigating.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The bank and a bost He told us that he checked.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The fingerprints found on the doors and windows, but that
all of them have been eliminated as they belonged to
the members of the store of staff or to the workmen.
He told us that they found an impression of the
tire print in the dirt of the alley next to
the building where the stolen clothing had been found. He
went on to say that they'd checked and then found
that the truck belonging to the pastor contractor had tires
of the same type that left the impressions in the
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building next to the clothing store. Theye us no new
information on the possible identity of the thief.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Three fifty two pm we.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Checked back with the record bureau on the list of
names of store employees.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, why was that? How long? Figured out? Clean? Nothing
on the rest of them must.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, okay, thanks by any Yeah, they checked the names,
came up with one impossible.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know you assistant manager al Baker. You know he's
done time for burglary.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
The record bureau had come up with the information that
Alfred Roger Baker had been arrested in nineteen forty three
for burglary. He'd been tried and convicted on three counts.
He'd spent a term in the state penitentiary at San Quentin,
and he'd been released.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Since that time. He apparently had led.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The life of an exemplary citizen. Four oh seven pm,
try and I took him to the office the clothing store.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Sit down, a Baker. Sure, hold on, you don't think
I had anything to do with this burglary? Do you
how many times you've been arrested?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Why?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes, I said, We just wanted to answer. You've seen
the record. We've seen it, you know, without me telling me.
We'd like hear it from you. Yes, I did the time.
I'm clean.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Since then, I thought, well you did the type did? Yes,
that's right. Don't know what are you guys hopping on
me for I just work here.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean, just because I did a hits for burgery
that I had anything to do with this, You know
you did when you were sure acting like I did,
bringing me in here talking about how I was arrested.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Sure, acting like you think I had something to do
with this one? Good for it. How do you figure
that you got the only other two door?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Look, I don't like to bring this up. Maybe you
bite cops haven't thought about it. But who says Dodd
couldn't have doubt? Means well, he's in trouble, big trouble.
This will be an easy way out of it, all.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Right, you tell us, well, all this stuff is insured.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Be pretty sweet for him to lift the merchandise, collect
on the insurance and then sell the stuff too. Coud
real good if I figured anyway. All I know is
you guys are trying to resunding around me. That doesn't
fit and I want no part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Come right, don It must be a couple of hest
trouble financially. Then why he's doing always remodeling.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
He hasn't got much choice. He's got to brighten this
place up. He's gonna lose the business he's got. You
check into him, you look it up, You'll see what
I'm talking about. Makes got more sense. And you hauling
me in here? Can you count for your time last
night from when from the time you left here? Yeah,
I can give you every minute, all right, go ahead.
I left here at six thirty. That's the time I
always leave. Who was here when you left? Give me
who locked up? That's right, Leonard, he always locks up always.
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Where'd you go after you left?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Went up to the corner and had a beer?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's like always too anybody in the bar? No you Yeah,
the bartender and a way to sell bouts for you.
We sure they will, oh, go ahead. After I left there,
I drew home. The times you leave the bar about
seven ten? I had one beer, smoked two cigarettes to
put a nick and up home. I left at seven ten.
She wished knew you were gonna want to know what
I got, proven that you'll have to take my work
for it. What times you get home by seven point fifty?
(09:16):
Where do you live out in the valley? Traffic's heavy
going out at the past that time, and I took
me ten minutes longer than it usually does.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You approve when you got home? Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'll talk to my wife. We got a time clock
on the wall. Just as you come in the door,
I punch in and out the time. We'll be there
for about last night I was home the first center
on watch television went to bed.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He didn't leave your house? Huh No.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Enough from the time I got home last night until
I left this morning. Pretty bad, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
How do you mean that?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I can prove every minute of it? But if you
get off my back cop you start looking around, you'll
come up with a lot like I've got a lot
more chance and a lot more reason to height that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Stuff than I do.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That won't be hot because I haven't got any You said, tight,
and I'll show you who sold that stuff? Huh, Wait
a minute, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Just over it at the desk. I want to show
you something. What you'll be hold it just a minute.
That's the white woman. You can never learn. Do your
open top dray this one? Yeah, right now, open that one? Alright?
What do you want? I I have a folder right there,
this one. Yeah, that's one.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Put it up on the desk, all right, go on,
open him? Yeah, and I take a good look at
the raison of stuff with stone.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Joe Bill's is not anying in, but it's paid for it.
Take a look at him yourself. Here, Okay, past due,
please remit if credit is important.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Overdue, past due go to the rest of 'em. They're
all like that.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
There isn't a place in the country anymore they'll extend
any credit to Dodge, not one. You're looking to see,
got a reason to steal the stuff?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well there's your answer. You talked him about. He's got
the reasons. Come in, Joe telling you you gotta lean
on somebody. You lean on Letter Dods. He's the one.
Don't come around here bothering me. Job.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, yeah, he might be telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Stuff on the con.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You are listening to Dragnet the authentic story of your
police force an excellent.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
With the removal of the remaining packages on the ro of,
our main opportunity from the thief was then we questioned
the people.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
In the store. From them, we learned that the.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Manides had brought the cases of clothing into the store himself.
We talked to him and he offered as an explanation
the fact that the insurance company wouldn't like him leaving
a supply of expensive Swede coats up on the roof.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He went on to say that catching the thief was
our business. After him, they tried to question.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Him regarding the accusations made by the salesman al Baker.
He said they were ridiculous, and we toted it into
the mains convoy went on to say that he resented
the reported for the thinking of your office and made
arrangements for a stakeout to be set up on the
roof of the building next door. And then Frank and
I returned to the office to check further on Leonard Dodds.
We checked with his bank and we found that he
had several notes.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
On the clothing store.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The head of the loan department told us that Dodds
payments had been irregular and that at the time he
was overdue on.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
One of the notes. We've contacted the insurance company.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We found that Dodds had made a claim on the
stolen merchandise that morning and had requested payment as soon
as possible. We turned the list of the stolen articles
over to pawnshop Detail and asked them to see that
the information would get into the hands of the second
hand dealers in the city. Ten fifteen pm, Frank and
I filled out the log and prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
To leave the office. See you by ready, Yeah, I'll
be right with it. I got it, Greg great Friday. Yes, ma'am. Well,
I'm not sure. No, the officer could handle the case.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Isn't here right now? What if I could take a message. Yes, ma'am,
he'll call you when.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He gets in. All right, Uh huh, yes, all right.
If you'll wait just a.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Minute, I'll transfer to the main jail. Now, the main jail,
I'll I'll be able to tell you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, that's right, just a minute, hold on, pretty would
you get this called a two nine four nine please?
That's right, the bail plate. Thank you. A woman wants
to know how much it's gonna cost to get her
not a jail, you know, I got it, Gregory Friday. Yeah,
m that's right, we did. Yeah, no one was there. Yeah,
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that's right. Yeah, Okay, we'll wait here. Bye bye. That
looks like and got it made. Maybe what do you mean?
Radio car out in the west.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Lake district just picked up a couple of kids. Uh,
both of 'm were loaded down with clothes. Yeah, label
on him as DoD's clothing. The radio car officer had
told me on the phone that he and his partner,
while making a routine patrol of the area, and spotted
two boys walking down the streets carrying large quantities of
clothing when they were stopped, But two suspects were.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Unable to account for the clothes, and they were not
able to.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Tell the arresting officers where they'd gotten them and checking
pair out. The off is a call burglary detail, and
we've gotten our first concrete lead to the thief. Ten
forty seven pm, the two suspects arrived at the offense.
Their names were checked you R and I, and they
were both found to have misdemeanor records listing petty theft
had attempted burglary. One of them, Walter Kramer, had been
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convicted on burglary charges and had been sentenced to Preston
School for Boys.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He was at the time on parole. While the other boy.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Waited in the squad room, Frank and I questioned Kramer
in the interrogation room.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
How about eighteen? Where do you live? You know that already?
Were you asking me again? Before I told the other
cop gave him all the information? Where do you live?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
If I seventy four Brandon Street? You want to tell
us where you got the clothing you had when you
were picked up? The smart cops you figure it out.
You're on parole now, No.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I got out clean. Are you still that way? That
depends on how you read this one. Where'd you get
those things? I found him? You expect us to buy that.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I don't care if you buy it or that it's
the truth. You're pretty heavy, aren't you. I've been around
that time.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Up to Preston. Didn't do you much good? Did it?
Be surprised what I've learned up there? You know what
you were sent there for? That depends on where you're sitting.
I picked up carrying a little of stolen clothes. You
wanna tell us where you got him? You tell me?
Come on, kid, where'd you get the clothes? You're gonna
play it that way? Are you? Iran? Any other? Where
were you yesterday? Start and win from when you got up?
(15:13):
I gotta tell you all that we want to hear
it pretty dull? All right? Go ahead? I got up
about noon. You got a job? Yeah? Where around? What
do you do? Nothing? I'm a philosopher. I study people.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I just sit around all day and study people. Do
you live matched up to tap? Go ahead with what
what you did yesterday?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Told you? I got up about noon, had some breakfast,
then went over to Harry's. That's the boy you were
picked up with. Yeah. I went over to his house,
sat around and watched the television. How long were you
at his?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
House m maybe six, sat around and talked philosophy, talked
and watch the old movies.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
What'd you do? Then left, went out to study people.
Where'd you go?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Went down, played a couple of games at pool, had
something leap, and after that went out to a movie.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You got any way of proving that? Sure? Talk to
Harry see your alibi? Yeah, you talk to him, you
tell you And you may not know this, but he's
in the thefts as you are. I got some information
for your cop. Neither one of us is in on
it at all. All right, get your coat. Well, you're
taking city jail. You know booked me. You called it
a lot hotam he going too? Yeh charge suspecially in
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four fifty nine pc burglary. That's right? Come on, you
mean that stuff was really stolen? That's right. You're telling
me right, yep, it ain't true. Can you tell us
about it? No? I mean Harry and he didn't steal
this stuff, but at least not the first time. What
do you mean by that? Or we stole it? Yeah,
he got his cold for that, but not the first time.
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Or word, did you get it from a garage? That's
the truth. We stole the stuff from a garage. I'll
show you. There's a lot more stuff there, a lot
more clothing. Yeah, whose garage is it? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Harry and me were walking around out there and he
saw this truck pull up. Guy got out and then
loaded some packing cases.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
When it was always last.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Night, the way the garage looked, thought it wasn't the
first time. Place was loaded a lot of shirts, coats, suits,
all kinds of things, and they figure that we might
as well help ourself.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We didn't steal this stuff originally, not the first time.
What's the address where the garage is? I don't know,
up on shore aale avenue near the lake, and we
take you up there. What you point it out? For sure,
I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'm gonna see him get his get it real good.
What do you mean, imagine him in a garage but
a stolen thing?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Less? Sure?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The important thing is that you know that we didn't
steal it the first time. You gotta believe that we
didn't steal it the first time.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Is there really a difference?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Twelve fifteen eight, we talked to the suspect that had
been picked up with Cramer. He gave us substantially the
same story that we'd gotten from the first boy. They
both agreed to take us off to the garage where.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
They found the stolen merchandise. Before we left the office, we.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Put in a call to the clothing store, but there's
been no report from the stake out on the world.
The two suspects directed this to drive off. We took
the freeway out to Glendale Boulevard and turned right. We
drove out to Loma Vista, and then we turned right again.
The boys directed us up hill and then onto a
side stream.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We went about a half a block farther before they
pointed out the house too.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We drove down the street and parked the car. Frank
and I and the two suspects walked back to the
house and into the rear of the yard.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
A two car garage in the rear of the building
was unlocked. We went in.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Scattered around the place, we found several large packing cases
of clothing.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
The labels on them were from some of the most
exclusive men.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Stores in the city. There was no question about it.
This was the plant for the stolen merchandise. Frank stood
by the back door of the house and I went
up on the front porch and rang the Bell.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, you're a Martin Katman, aren't you. Yeah? Do I
know you? My name is fright and Fleet Army. Oh yeah,
I met you over Dodge. What is this one question? Yeah? Phew,
kind of late to come around and well maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm just gonna turn it end an you wait one morning,
I could come down the police department. No, I think
we're gonna have to talk tonight. Oh okay, come on in,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Anybody else in the house, just my wife and the kids.
Where are they that stairs? They're all asleep. They told
you I was just gonna turn it. Uh huh. That
garage out back and that belonged to you? What the
garage out in the back of the lot, is it yours? Yeah?
That's mine? Why what do you use it for? What
do you use the garage for? I keep the truck there?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But where's the truck tonight? I left it at the
service station down Glendeville. But I haven't a grace in
your out changed?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Why anybody else use the garage beside you? No, everything
that belonged to you. You might if I call my life,
well you can do that from downtown. You arresting me? Yes,
you found the stuff. Now we found it. That's agree. Yeah.
Fo here's a man.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I guess the should have gotten it down the garage sooner.
Figured down the first thing in the morning. When you
talk to me this morning and Dodge that should have known.
Shouldn't known right then?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I didn't think it. Figured it this way. I'll wanna
get your coat. Yeah. Just when me finish this, you
should hear it. Figure going real good? Want to hear
about it? Uh huh Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm a passing contractor, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, you told us that this morning. Well, I bid
on the jobs. All the contractors admit bids on how
much would do to work for? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I always got in with a low bitches to try
the other contractors crazy. Never could figure out how I
could come out on it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You see it though, don't you? Would you tell me? Well?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You see, if a job would cost me, say, thirty
five hundred dollars to do, I'd put in a bid
for twenty five hundred. I always get the job and
then I'd steal the other thousand merchandise. See, they come
get hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What about the store owner? They were insured? Onlybody in
the middle was the insurance company. So you see, nobody
really got hurt. You about finishing that cigarette? Now? Yeah,
just about pretty lucky, you know, is it right? Yeah? Sure,
this is gonna be the last time.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I figured that after this, I'd be able to go
it straight. Got my equipment all paid for, money in
the bank, figured I could go it straight. This is
gonna be the last time.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
We're right, weren't you? You might tell me something? What's that?
Let you tag me? How'd you find out?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
We caught a couple of kids breaking into the garage.
They'd stolen some of the clothes. They were picked up
when they pointed the place out to us kids.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Ah about that? That's really terrible, isn't it? What there's oh,
this younger generation. I had legitimate reasons. I was just
trying to come out. Wasn't anybody gonna get hurt my way?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But those kids, you know, if you're gonna put them
away for a long time little thieves, tell them to
get your coup with them. It's just awful, no sense
of honesty at all. I sure hate to think of
what the world's coming to. You want to tell me
something happened? Sure, what do you want to know? And
you said, you just stole the difference between what you
agreed to do the job for and what it really
ought to be. I got it right, Yeah, just the difference. Well,
(21:39):
you hit the Dodge store pretty high, didn't you. Twelve
thousand dollars worth. Well, you see, that was a kind
of a deal. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I didn't get anything on the last job, not a thing.
So I had to make up for you, you see
what I mean. Yeah, I had to come out someway.
Ain't nobody expect me to take a complete loss with it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I wouldn't know about that. I just wanted what I
had coming. Yeah, where you're gonna get us this time?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Martin abril Hetman was tried and convicted of burglary in
the second degree four counts and received sentence as prescribed
by law. Burglary in the second degree is punishable by
imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a period of not
less than one or more than fifteen years, or by
imprisonment in the county.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Jail for not more than one year.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Walter James Kramer and Samuel Arthur Nicholson were tried and convicted.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Of burglary in the first degree.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Burglary in the first degree is punishable by imprisonment in
the state penitentiary for a period of not less.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Than five years.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Regnant is a presentation of the United States Armed Forces
Radio Service. That's that's, that's STA
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you are about to hear
is true. The names havings to.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Protect the innocent.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You're already tips sugant. You're assigned to burglary detail. You
get a call to a clothing store in Hollywood, as
Sun wants us. The value of the stolen property is
over twelve thousand dollars. There's no lead to any of
the thief, no pattern to his mo your job, get him.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It would Winday June third, it was hot from Los Angeles.
We were working the day, watched out a burglery detail.
My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Bernard Finals Friday.
We were on our way out from the office nine
fifty six am when we got to fifteen and jew
Vine Street, Dodds Men's store.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Excuse me, one, he can tell where you find Leonard Dodd. Yeah. Uh,
Dad saidn't call it back there in the blue suits.
Thank you back. Well, I don't know how it happened, hunting. No,
I just came in this morning. I know this stuff
was gone m post hipping. This great coach haven't even
been unpacked yet.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah about two doesn't know me. Were white with a
button down college. Yeah, I called the cops and the
trans government. Yep, we're about twelve thousand. Well, a couple
of customers just came in. Honey, I'll call you back. Yeah, well,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Can I help the gentlemen with the dodge? That's right,
police officers and spanks with.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
My name is Friday. How did you do this? You
reported at burglary this morning? Yeah, you guys from Hollywood US.
They were out of Central. I didn't think i'd seen
you around here before.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Do you want to tell us what happened? Yeah, come
on back to the storeroom. Why did you first discover
this lf? Well, this morning when I came in, I
went back here to unpacked huts and died and I
found them out of the gun.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I'll get to do it. And this is our storeroom.
When a shipping from the east, the cases I could
to get a chance of unpacking.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The invoices for see, was all of the stolen merchandise
taken from this room?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not sure about that. I do know that a
ship when the sweet Jackets and Westcotts was in here.
It's gone now. A couple of cases of sure, it's
too the only way I'd have annoying if they took
anything from out of the store itself would be to
make a complete inventory. Where do you has to make
the loss at twelve thousand dollars? When it was the
last time we saw the merchandise in here yesterday afternoon?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Pop? What time?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, I have to guess it's that. I need to
say about three year, three thirty. How many doors are
either to the store?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here? That's the front one one in the back opens
into an alley. What if we can see the rear door? Sure?
At this way? One of the person I thought was
four found uf gone and I checked the door. I
was still locked. An arm system in the store, Yes, didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Go off last nineteenth. See this is a big for yourself.
There's nothing but yeah, I go into the Jimmy, Well
that's what I thought too.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I looked pretty close.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Couldn't they sign a word against? How about windows?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hm? Possibly they got into a window.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, I'm sure that two got her in there. Gosh,
see them they're good ten feet and barred. They couldn't
have gotten in there.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And we'll have our crime data. Way, who has keys
to the place?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, I've got one, Yester but who else, Well, they're
just me and now Al yeah, Al Baker.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He's sort of be a tristant manager. Whenever I'm not around.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Think he's try to think again, came thin, Listen, I
don't want you to give him any trouble. I'd try
him of anything, anything at all. I don't want to
ask him what he would only five years if you'd
call any Lucie ca't be sure of one thing? What's
that isn't anybody who works at the store didn't say,
I'm pretty sure about that. Well, I know my people,
all of them have been with me for a couple
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of years. I trust him more.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I notice that you're doing some remodeling here. How about
the workmen? Possible one of them took the.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Mercant Guys, it's Friday. Do you know how much twelve
thousand dollars enclosing?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yes, sure, I have an idea.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The both of you couldn't carry it in one trip,
not in a couple of trips.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Wherever.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
We took up a back card getting as we have
to open up to let them in and they leave
before we close. They tried to get the things out
of the store. One of us that have.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Seen it wouldn't possibly have been one of them. Frank, Kay,
you want to call a crime lab? Sure? I mean
would you call him? Yes? On the counter in front
of the store. I just don't understand it, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This doesn't seem to be any way they could have
gotten all of the clothes out, no way at all.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Only must have found one.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Ten thirty eight, the crew of the crime lab arrived
and went over the place. The whole felt checked and
all entrances and exits of the store were checked for fingerprints.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Both the front door and the rear exit were examined,
but there was no mark of for Jimmy. The windows
on the second floor were gone over, but the locks
on them were secure and there was no apparent way
they could have been used to remove the solar merchandise.
We talked to the other clerks from the store, and
then we got approximately the same story that we'd have
changed in the store manager. They verified that the merchandise
had been on the premises at three thirty pm the
day before.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
None of them could say for certain minute was there
after that.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
However, while Frank was checking with the members of the
crew from the crime lab, I called the names of
the employees into the record bureau for a check. Yeah,
that's Baker b A Ker Study m A forty sixty
five A one.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Hundred pictures of fight though you know no visible market stuys. Right,
so that's up for you. Okay, if you'll check the names,
I give you a call. Lader, Right, you got te upstairs.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's talking the week the figure for we found the
merchandise had to be come out in the daytime we
goes over that. Yeah, they they would open somebody use
the key any thinks like we do. If somebody took
the cases out playing at them and then picked the
stuff up last night or what he got up here
the winter that opens out on the rest of the
next building to check the lock, compared.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
With you know, come up, climb up you no bars
on this one? Huh over here? Get on und there
sat now what it? Yeah? Sure, this one's way. Customers
all take the snow. Enager says, if I have those
kind of the rest of snow, just taking that last night,
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plays the piece that night for the rest. I don't
wanna be here so wet with the Mitter Clothing.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Store it ex bought them because of the stolarge eyes
will we need arrangements to play State Albany for fourteen pm,
the Crime I had finished their investigating.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The bank and a bost He told us that he checked.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The fingerprints found on the doors and windows, but that
all of them have been eliminated as they belonged to
the members of the store of staff or to the workmen.
He told us that they found an impression of the
tire print in the dirt of the alley next to
the building where the stolen clothing had been found. He
went on to say that they'd checked and then found
that the truck belonging to the pastor contractor had tires
of the same type that left the impressions in the
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building next to the clothing store. Theye us no new
information on the possible identity of the thief.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Three fifty two pm we.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Checked back with the record bureau on the list of
names of store employees.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, why was that? How long? Figured out? Clean? Nothing
on the rest of them must.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, okay, thanks by any Yeah, they checked the names,
came up with one impossible.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know you assistant manager al Baker. You know he's
done time for burglary.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
The record bureau had come up with the information that
Alfred Roger Baker had been arrested in nineteen forty three
for burglary. He'd been tried and convicted on three counts.
He'd spent a term in the state penitentiary at San Quentin,
and he'd been released.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Since that time. He apparently had led.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The life of an exemplary citizen. Four oh seven pm,
try and I took him to the office the clothing store.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Sit down, a Baker. Sure, hold on, you don't think
I had anything to do with this burglary? Do you
how many times you've been arrested?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Why?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes, I said, We just wanted to answer. You've seen
the record. We've seen it, you know, without me telling me.
We'd like hear it from you. Yes, I did the time.
I'm clean.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Since then, I thought, well you did the type did? Yes,
that's right. Don't know what are you guys hopping on
me for I just work here.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I mean, just because I did a hits for burgery
that I had anything to do with this, You know
you did when you were sure acting like I did,
bringing me in here talking about how I was arrested.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Sure, acting like you think I had something to do
with this one? Good for it. How do you figure
that you got the only other two door?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Look, I don't like to bring this up. Maybe you
bite cops haven't thought about it. But who says Dodd
couldn't have doubt? Means well, he's in trouble, big trouble.
This will be an easy way out of it, all.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Right, you tell us, well, all this stuff is insured.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Be pretty sweet for him to lift the merchandise, collect
on the insurance and then sell the stuff too. Coud
real good if I figured anyway. All I know is
you guys are trying to resunding around me. That doesn't
fit and I want no part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Come right, don It must be a couple of hest
trouble financially. Then why he's doing always remodeling.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
He hasn't got much choice. He's got to brighten this
place up. He's gonna lose the business he's got. You
check into him, you look it up, You'll see what
I'm talking about. Makes got more sense. And you hauling
me in here? Can you count for your time last
night from when from the time you left here? Yeah,
I can give you every minute, all right, go ahead.
I left here at six thirty. That's the time I
always leave. Who was here when you left? Give me
who locked up? That's right, Leonard, he always locks up always.
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Where'd you go after you left?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Went up to the corner and had a beer?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's like always too anybody in the bar? No you Yeah,
the bartender and a way to sell bouts for you.
We sure they will, oh, go ahead. After I left there,
I drew home. The times you leave the bar about
seven ten? I had one beer, smoked two cigarettes to
put a nick and up home. I left at seven ten.
She wished knew you were gonna want to know what
I got, proven that you'll have to take my work
for it. What times you get home by seven point fifty?
(09:16):
Where do you live out in the valley? Traffic's heavy
going out at the past that time, and I took
me ten minutes longer than it usually does.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You approve when you got home? Yeah, I can.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'll talk to my wife. We got a time clock
on the wall. Just as you come in the door,
I punch in and out the time. We'll be there
for about last night I was home the first center
on watch television went to bed.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He didn't leave your house? Huh No.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Enough from the time I got home last night until
I left this morning. Pretty bad, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
How do you mean that?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I can prove every minute of it? But if you
get off my back cop you start looking around, you'll
come up with a lot like I've got a lot
more chance and a lot more reason to height that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Stuff than I do.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That won't be hot because I haven't got any You said, tight,
and I'll show you who sold that stuff? Huh, Wait
a minute, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Just over it at the desk. I want to show
you something. What you'll be hold it just a minute.
That's the white woman. You can never learn. Do your
open top dray this one? Yeah, right now, open that one? Alright?
What do you want? I I have a folder right there,
this one. Yeah, that's one.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Put it up on the desk, all right, go on,
open him? Yeah, and I take a good look at
the raison of stuff with stone.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Joe Bill's is not anying in, but it's paid for it.
Take a look at him yourself. Here, Okay, past due,
please remit if credit is important.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Overdue, past due go to the rest of 'em. They're
all like that.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
There isn't a place in the country anymore they'll extend
any credit to Dodge, not one. You're looking to see,
got a reason to steal the stuff?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well there's your answer. You talked him about. He's got
the reasons. Come in, Joe telling you you gotta lean
on somebody. You lean on Letter Dods. He's the one.
Don't come around here bothering me. Job.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, yeah, he might be telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Stuff on the con.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You are listening to Dragnet the authentic story of your
police force an excellent.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
With the removal of the remaining packages on the ro of,
our main opportunity from the thief was then we questioned
the people.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
In the store. From them, we learned that the.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Manides had brought the cases of clothing into the store himself.
We talked to him and he offered as an explanation
the fact that the insurance company wouldn't like him leaving
a supply of expensive Swede coats up on the roof.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He went on to say that catching the thief was
our business. After him, they tried to question.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Him regarding the accusations made by the salesman al Baker.
He said they were ridiculous, and we toted it into
the mains convoy went on to say that he resented
the reported for the thinking of your office and made
arrangements for a stakeout to be set up on the
roof of the building next door. And then Frank and
I returned to the office to check further on Leonard Dodds.
We checked with his bank and we found that he
had several notes.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
On the clothing store.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The head of the loan department told us that Dodds
payments had been irregular and that at the time he
was overdue on.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
One of the notes. We've contacted the insurance company.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We found that Dodds had made a claim on the
stolen merchandise that morning and had requested payment as soon
as possible. We turned the list of the stolen articles
over to pawnshop Detail and asked them to see that
the information would get into the hands of the second
hand dealers in the city. Ten fifteen pm, Frank and
I filled out the log and prepared.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
To leave the office. See you by ready, Yeah, I'll
be right with it. I got it, Greg great Friday. Yes, ma'am. Well,
I'm not sure. No, the officer could handle the case.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Isn't here right now? What if I could take a message. Yes, ma'am,
he'll call you when.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He gets in. All right, Uh huh, yes, all right.
If you'll wait just a.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Minute, I'll transfer to the main jail. Now, the main jail,
I'll I'll be able to tell you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, that's right, just a minute, hold on, pretty would
you get this called a two nine four nine please?
That's right, the bail plate. Thank you. A woman wants
to know how much it's gonna cost to get her
not a jail, you know, I got it, Gregory Friday. Yeah,
m that's right, we did. Yeah, no one was there. Yeah,
(13:25):
that's right. Yeah, Okay, we'll wait here. Bye bye. That
looks like and got it made. Maybe what do you mean?
Radio car out in the west.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Lake district just picked up a couple of kids. Uh,
both of 'm were loaded down with clothes. Yeah, label
on him as DoD's clothing. The radio car officer had
told me on the phone that he and his partner,
while making a routine patrol of the area, and spotted
two boys walking down the streets carrying large quantities of
clothing when they were stopped, But two suspects were.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Unable to account for the clothes, and they were not
able to.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Tell the arresting officers where they'd gotten them and checking
pair out. The off is a call burglary detail, and
we've gotten our first concrete lead to the thief. Ten
forty seven pm, the two suspects arrived at the offense.
Their names were checked you R and I, and they
were both found to have misdemeanor records listing petty theft
had attempted burglary. One of them, Walter Kramer, had been
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convicted on burglary charges and had been sentenced to Preston
School for Boys.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He was at the time on parole. While the other boy.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Waited in the squad room, Frank and I questioned Kramer
in the interrogation room.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
How about eighteen? Where do you live? You know that already?
Were you asking me again? Before I told the other
cop gave him all the information? Where do you live?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
If I seventy four Brandon Street? You want to tell
us where you got the clothing you had when you
were picked up? The smart cops you figure it out.
You're on parole now, No.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I got out clean. Are you still that way? That
depends on how you read this one. Where'd you get
those things? I found him? You expect us to buy that.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I don't care if you buy it or that it's
the truth. You're pretty heavy, aren't you. I've been around
that time.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Up to Preston. Didn't do you much good? Did it?
Be surprised what I've learned up there? You know what
you were sent there for? That depends on where you're sitting.
I picked up carrying a little of stolen clothes. You
wanna tell us where you got him? You tell me?
Come on, kid, where'd you get the clothes? You're gonna
play it that way? Are you? Iran? Any other? Where
were you yesterday? Start and win from when you got up?
(15:13):
I gotta tell you all that we want to hear
it pretty dull? All right? Go ahead? I got up
about noon. You got a job? Yeah? Where around? What
do you do? Nothing? I'm a philosopher. I study people.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I just sit around all day and study people. Do
you live matched up to tap? Go ahead with what
what you did yesterday?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Told you? I got up about noon, had some breakfast,
then went over to Harry's. That's the boy you were
picked up with. Yeah. I went over to his house,
sat around and watched the television. How long were you
at his?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
House m maybe six, sat around and talked philosophy, talked
and watch the old movies.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
What'd you do? Then left, went out to study people.
Where'd you go?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Went down, played a couple of games at pool, had
something leap, and after that went out to a movie.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You got any way of proving that? Sure? Talk to
Harry see your alibi? Yeah, you talk to him, you
tell you And you may not know this, but he's
in the thefts as you are. I got some information
for your cop. Neither one of us is in on
it at all. All right, get your coat. Well, you're
taking city jail. You know booked me. You called it
a lot hotam he going too? Yeh charge suspecially in
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four fifty nine pc burglary. That's right? Come on, you
mean that stuff was really stolen? That's right. You're telling
me right, yep, it ain't true. Can you tell us
about it? No? I mean Harry and he didn't steal
this stuff, but at least not the first time. What
do you mean by that? Or we stole it? Yeah,
he got his cold for that, but not the first time.
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Or word, did you get it from a garage? That's
the truth. We stole the stuff from a garage. I'll
show you. There's a lot more stuff there, a lot
more clothing. Yeah, whose garage is it? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Harry and me were walking around out there and he
saw this truck pull up. Guy got out and then
loaded some packing cases.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
When it was always last.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Night, the way the garage looked, thought it wasn't the
first time. Place was loaded a lot of shirts, coats, suits,
all kinds of things, and they figure that we might
as well help ourself.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
We didn't steal this stuff originally, not the first time.
What's the address where the garage is? I don't know,
up on shore aale avenue near the lake, and we
take you up there. What you point it out? For sure,
I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I'm gonna see him get his get it real good.
What do you mean, imagine him in a garage but
a stolen thing?
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Less? Sure?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The important thing is that you know that we didn't
steal it the first time. You gotta believe that we
didn't steal it the first time.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Is there really a difference?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Twelve fifteen eight, we talked to the suspect that had
been picked up with Cramer. He gave us substantially the
same story that we'd gotten from the first boy. They
both agreed to take us off to the garage where.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
They found the stolen merchandise. Before we left the office, we.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Put in a call to the clothing store, but there's
been no report from the stake out on the world.
The two suspects directed this to drive off. We took
the freeway out to Glendale Boulevard and turned right. We
drove out to Loma Vista, and then we turned right again.
The boys directed us up hill and then onto a
side stream.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
We went about a half a block farther before they
pointed out the house too.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We drove down the street and parked the car. Frank
and I and the two suspects walked back to the
house and into the rear of the yard.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
A two car garage in the rear of the building
was unlocked. We went in.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Scattered around the place, we found several large packing cases
of clothing.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
The labels on them were from some of the most
exclusive men.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Stores in the city. There was no question about it.
This was the plant for the stolen merchandise. Frank stood
by the back door of the house and I went
up on the front porch and rang the Bell.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, you're a Martin Katman, aren't you. Yeah? Do I
know you? My name is fright and Fleet Army. Oh yeah,
I met you over Dodge. What is this one question? Yeah? Phew,
kind of late to come around and well maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm just gonna turn it end an you wait one morning,
I could come down the police department. No, I think
we're gonna have to talk tonight. Oh okay, come on in,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Anybody else in the house, just my wife and the kids.
Where are they that stairs? They're all asleep. They told
you I was just gonna turn it. Uh huh. That
garage out back and that belonged to you? What the
garage out in the back of the lot, is it yours? Yeah?
That's mine? Why what do you use it for? What
do you use the garage for? I keep the truck there?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
But where's the truck tonight? I left it at the
service station down Glendeville. But I haven't a grace in
your out changed?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Why anybody else use the garage beside you? No, everything
that belonged to you. You might if I call my life,
well you can do that from downtown. You arresting me? Yes,
you found the stuff. Now we found it. That's agree. Yeah.
Fo here's a man.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I guess the should have gotten it down the garage sooner.
Figured down the first thing in the morning. When you
talk to me this morning and Dodge that should have known.
Shouldn't known right then?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I didn't think it. Figured it this way. I'll wanna
get your coat. Yeah. Just when me finish this, you
should hear it. Figure going real good? Want to hear
about it? Uh huh Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm a passing contractor, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, you told us that this morning. Well, I bid
on the jobs. All the contractors admit bids on how
much would do to work for? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I always got in with a low bitches to try
the other contractors crazy. Never could figure out how I
could come out on it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You see it though, don't you? Would you tell me? Well?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You see, if a job would cost me, say, thirty
five hundred dollars to do, I'd put in a bid
for twenty five hundred. I always get the job and
then I'd steal the other thousand merchandise. See, they come
get hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What about the store owner? They were insured? Onlybody in
the middle was the insurance company. So you see, nobody
really got hurt. You about finishing that cigarette? Now? Yeah,
just about pretty lucky, you know, is it right? Yeah? Sure,
this is gonna be the last time.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I figured that after this, I'd be able to go
it straight. Got my equipment all paid for, money in
the bank, figured I could go it straight. This is
gonna be the last time.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
We're right, weren't you? You might tell me something? What's that?
Let you tag me? How'd you find out?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
We caught a couple of kids breaking into the garage.
They'd stolen some of the clothes. They were picked up
when they pointed the place out to us kids.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Ah about that? That's really terrible, isn't it? What there's oh,
this younger generation. I had legitimate reasons. I was just
trying to come out. Wasn't anybody gonna get hurt my way?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But those kids, you know, if you're gonna put them
away for a long time little thieves, tell them to
get your coup with them. It's just awful, no sense
of honesty at all. I sure hate to think of
what the world's coming to. You want to tell me
something happened? Sure, what do you want to know? And
you said, you just stole the difference between what you
agreed to do the job for and what it really
ought to be. I got it right, Yeah, just the difference. Well,
(21:39):
you hit the Dodge store pretty high, didn't you. Twelve
thousand dollars worth. Well, you see, that was a kind
of a deal. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I didn't get anything on the last job, not a thing.
So I had to make up for you, you see
what I mean. Yeah, I had to come out someway.
Ain't nobody expect me to take a complete loss with it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I wouldn't know about that. I just wanted what I
had coming. Yeah, where you're gonna get us this time?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Martin abril Hetman was tried and convicted of burglary in
the second degree four counts and received sentence as prescribed
by law. Burglary in the second degree is punishable by
imprisonment in the state penitentiary for a period of not
less than one or more than fifteen years, or by
imprisonment in the county.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Jail for not more than one year.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Walter James Kramer and Samuel Arthur Nicholson were tried and convicted.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Of burglary in the first degree.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Burglary in the first degree is punishable by imprisonment in
the state penitentiary for a period of not less.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Than five years.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
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