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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you're about to hear is true.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent drag men.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. A
pair of thieves has been terrorizing the merchants in your city.
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They're described as a man and a woman. From their actions,
you know they're capable of murder.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Your job. Stop 'em.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It was Wednesday, July twenty third. It was warm in
Los Angeles. We were working the night watch out of
robbery detail. My partner's Frank Smith, the boss's chief of detective,
stabbed around.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I was on my way back from the main jail
and it was eight sixteen pm when I after Room
twenty seven eight, Robbery Detail.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Fire Slack Joe Any worn through. Frank. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I talked to Skipper this morning. Said they were having
a little trouble with that extradition. Anything big, No, I
guess not. Chief Brown said the authorities back in Saint
Louis would get it straightened out. Frank, I'll be back
in the middle next week. Skipper said, he wants me
to work with you on that liquor store thing.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Kathy and I can use some help. We run down
just about every lead there is. They all end up
in the same place.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
All I got a little of it. You want to
fill me in on the rest, Yeah, hot shot, I
don't get it. I even got it firsthand. Yeah, they
just scored again.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Sergeant Slats, Henry, Tom Gaffney and I went downstairs to
the car pool. We took out our robbery car and
we rolled on the call code three. It took us
a little over ten minutes to get to the corner
of Alexandria and Burns Avenues. The place that had reported
being robbed was a small neighborhood liquor store.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For the time we'd gotten there, a radio card.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Answered the call and a Fellawy car from Hollywood Division
had gotten there. While Gaffney talked with the men in
the Fellamy car, Slats and I went inside the store
to see the victim. The uniformed officer who was with
him told us that the elderly man's name was Charles Osburn.
We got what information the officer had been able to get,
and while he went to his unit to get out
a broadcast on the suspects, Slats and I talked to osmon.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Well, there isn't much to tell. I guess they worked
it the same way they've been doing. That's the way
I tells the papers, the same There were two of them,
were there?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah? Man, the woman? Who might be better? If you
tell us just exactly what happened, we'll just pick up
any paper. It's all there. They've been doing the same
thing for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I don't understand it. I don't what's that, mister Rasbury? Well,
these two just walk into any store and take what
they want. You guys don't seem to be able to
stop them. You go, great guns after they've held up somebody,
then you were great? But why are you when they're
doing the robin?
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Where are you there? Where? You know?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
If you'll just calm down here and tell us what happened,
we might be able to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh, well, they come in just like always. By what
time was that? Well that must have been round. I
was a little too busy to look at my watch.
You want to go ahead?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well there was two of them, man, the woman, Yes, sir, man,
the woman sit over there, door. Woman walked right up.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Here at the counter, right up and stood there where
he stopped. I thought she had a cold or something.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I wasn't long that thought.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hell long though, No, it's heard, not long at all.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yes see, E turned out to be a mask, thanks you,
you know, right across here, right here, across the face.
About that time, of course, I realized there was something
was wrong. You know, anybody walked into the store the
mask off, They don't mean no good?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh none, yes said Did you get a good look
at the pair before they put the masks on?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, sin, not at all. No, No.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They had them kind of up over their mouths when
they come in, kind of like they was going to
call for something.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And they took their hands away, and I could see
that the hanksiors was tied right on, tied. Yes see,
you want to go ahead?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Well, this woman come over the counter and ask me
for a bottle of canade in whiskey, just as calm
as can be. I spoke right out now time, he says.
I walked over you see there. Yeah, that's why I
keep the Canadian stuff and got a bottle. I see,
got it right down. And I turned around and as
you was just standing there with a mask on, had
it tied right around tied.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes. See what happened then? Well, I asked them what
the big idea was. I thought that maybe they was
paying a little joke to see they was what was
on me?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A woman told me to put the bottle in a
paper bag and put the money in the bank too,
told me to open the register and just put all
the money right in the bank.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Did you see if they were armed? No, wonder, you
haven't caught them, sir.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You got a life size picture of me giving them
the money.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
If they wasn't arm you got that kind idea? Well, sir,
we just want to know if they had guns. Of
course they hadn't. God. Did you see them, well, naturally
right out in the open.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
No, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait wait a second,
Come right down to it. I didn't actually see them.
The fellow was at the door over there. He had
his hand in his pocket. She had her hand in
a perch, see like this, you see like this kind
of come right down to it. I didn't really see him. No, well,
I'm sure they was there. I'm sure, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, what happened after the woman asked for the money, Well.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Her and the fellow just told me not to move
for five minutes. Had me to keep real still and
I wouldn't get hurt. I just took it easy, and
they left the store.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They walk away from the place. Oh no, no, sir.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
They had a car park right out in front, right
in front, got into.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That roared down the street. I counted to one hundred
by ones and then called you. Did the uniform officer
get a descript? Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It right off, all right, mister Osmond, if you'd give
us a description of the pair.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Well, the woman was about holds and maybe five for
three around and there waiting around the one hundred and thirty,
just flame and red had due eye?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Really was that color? What color was the eyes? Framing red?
Flaming red? I told you that eyes?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yes, Why I'm all confused. Yeah, well her eyes were blue.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes, that's how I knew that. His hair was bright red.
What was she wearing? Oh, had all the kind of
bread green, kind of green coat.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Red purse, red shoes, low heel, the front was cut out.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
How about the man? What do he look like? Oh,
he's a big one. He must have been around sixty.
I couldn't tell good because he was standing over there
with a door. But he was a big one. I
tell you he weighed about one hundred and seventy maybe more.
How about his coloring? Dark, dark hair, dark eyes. Of
course I couldn't see anything very good. Then he had
that mask on. What was he wearing? He had the
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blue shoes on, looked kind of like it was linen.
How about his shirt and tie? White shirt, black tie shirt,
was a button down collar, no hat.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Did either one of them have any marks or scards?
It might make it easier to identify him, not that
I could see, no, sir. Well, how about accents? Either
of them have any kind of speech peculiarity?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Exactly what the woman said to you? Do you remember
the words she used? Well?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
First off, she asked for the whiskey, said give me
a bottle of Canadian whiskey.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Didn't mention any special brand.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Then when I brought it back, she said johns put
it to the paper bag, and after the register in
that too.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's what the woman said. Did the man say anything
at all?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, when there was leaving, he said, stay for pop.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Stayed there for five minutes. You won't get hurt. Those
there's words exact. I remember them all right, sir.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
We'd like you to come downtown. Check the pictures for
us if you will. Well, I guess it'll be all right.
You guys should sure get on the ball though. It's
getting pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sir. It seems a little silly you can't catch these
people right out.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Instead of rushing around locking the door after the horse
has been stole.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's a little late then, seems to me.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, sir, Well, they've been pretty lucky. They'll probably try
the same thing again. Yeah, we'll try to beat it
the next time. The search of the immediate area failed
to turn up anything that might lead to the identity
of the thieves. A broadcast had been gotten out to
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all cars in the city, giving the description of the couple,
the automobile were driving, and the clothes they were wearing.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The pair was at the past three weeks in that
they planned to work. They'd steal a car.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Then, on the night that they started their operation, they'd
pick one of the city's main arterials and start at.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
One end of it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
They'd hit three or four stores in the area in
a period of half an hour. The stolen car would
be parked on a side street, and the couple would
make good their escape. All of the routine efforts had
been made to identify them. Due to the fact that
a woman was involved in the operation. The State of
Dulled Authority for women had been contacted for the names
of recent parolees, but when these had been checked out,
we netted nothing. Because of the circumstances of the mo
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we felt that the first break in the case would
come through the woman. The Stats Office had made several
runs and the possibles had been checked doubt results nothing.
Five minutes after we'd left the first victim, we got
a ball. The parrot hit again, further down on Alexandria Avenue.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Probably let us go there with place. Yeah you the cop, Yes, sir,
that's right, I'm the fellow robbed. I'm him slash. Ye's
even try to clear the further place.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, all right, sir, if you'd like to tell us.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What happened here? Terrible, most terrible thing that.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Ever happened to me, Yes, sir, I gotta have a
little something to calm my nerves.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Gotta what can I guess you anything, sir?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Don't have to shine. I got all right here, a
whole store full of it. Just a minute, A little brandy,
that's what I need. Mother, Sure gonna think I took
the little nip just to have it. Gonna have to
explain the whole thing to her. Imagine me being robbed.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yes, you know, if you tell us what happened here
it excuse me, like look it, this is no sir.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, yeah, these two come in here not going five
minutes ago. Man woman came right in and asked for
a bottle of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Do you recall what brand?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
He didn't ask for, no special brand, just said they
wanted Canada Whiskey blend.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He'd be able to give us a description of him.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I have a woman had red hair, and that's about
the only thing I do remember about her, other than
the way she talked.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
How he means a foulmouth? Where she swore at me?
Just something fierce? What did she say? Oh, guests swear words.
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I guess I didn't get the bottle fast enough. Firm
just told me to harry when she'd say it like that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Where was the matter?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh he was over here at the cash rest. No, no,
she said, over the door. Seemed to be the look
out or something. She didn't come up past you there
right there.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
By the bit of chip. Right, that's spout. She come
when you said they used guns? Oh yeah, big, I
guess there must have been that long bear, must have
been that big round. What kind of a gun was
it was? You know, I don't think I know what
you mean. Or was an automatic or a revolver?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And I'm sorry, officer, but I don't understand all I know.
It was the biggest gun I ever saw.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Must have been that long, that big round. Did it
look like this one?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh no, No, that's just tea shooter compared to one
that fella was waiting around. Did you see a car
when they left, Yes, I did, right out in front
was park in front of the sign. Hey you see
there where it says reserved for patron. Yeah, see right there,
that's where the car was. Half the fellow told me
his dump the cash into the paper bag with a bottle.
The woman opened the door and both of them ran
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out and jumped into the car roared off down the street.
But I got a good look at it, real good.
Then you can give us a description of it, and
you bet I can. Dark nineteen fifty three Ford Sedan
four door had one of them some things on the front,
you know, like a shade. Yes, used to have them
on the buggage when I was a young man. I
guess if you wait long enough, they get back to everything.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yes, how much money did they get away with it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I guess must have been around two hundred and twenty
five dollars round in there someplace.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Give a couple, take a couple. Do you think you'd
know either one of these people if you ever saw
him again?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
He would just bet I would, even with those masks on,
I'd be able to pick him right. We just had
point him out. I never forget that gun. The biggest
gun I ever saw must have been that long, that
big round. How'd they look, Joe, Well, it's the same couple.
Description fits perfectly. I checked around the people in the crowd.
Found one old guy that says he saw the pair
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come out of the store. Got a good description of
the car. One if I can tell you anything you
want to know, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
We appreciate that, but we do want to talk to
everybody who knows anything about the hold up.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
All right, you go ahead and talk to the other fella.
You go out ahead. Yeah, I got something he can't
give you. Or that's a license number of the car
they drove.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
An immediate supplementary broadcast was gotten out to the cars
in the area, with special attention to the units covering
Alexandria Avenue. The search for the pair of thieves went on,
but as the hours passed and they failed to hit again,
it became apparent that they had alluded us again. The
next morning, the car was found abandoned on the east
side of Los Angeles. It was a stolen vehicle, and
after it had been checked for the crime lab for
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Layton Prince, we were no further toward apprehending the suspects.
The conferences were held with the Chief of Detectives that Brown,
and it was decided to place an extensive stakeout on
the liquor stores in the Hollywood area. From past performances,
the pair seemed to work their operation in that general
area more than the other parts of town.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The stakeout was maintained for three days without results.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
On Tuesday night, July twenty ninth, Sergeant Henry and I
waited in the squad room for reports from the other
officers out in the field.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
One fifteen am and looks like another night shot. Yeah,
still no action.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Stories will be closing in about forty five minutes now,
and you got a cigarette?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm monk. Yeah, all right, there's a couple left in here.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, just two here, go ahead, I'll go down the
hall and get a couple of pas. Wait all right, Yeah,
heard from Frank.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I talked to Faye night before last. She got a
letter from him. He said he thought he'd be back
by the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Say how it's going.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
No, he's just read me in a couple of parts
of the letter. I guess it's all straight out. Suspects
coming back.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
On his own extraditions can sure be of pain. I
had to go back to New Orleans on one last year,
had a miserable time. Guy, give us a lot of
Trump and I get it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now, let's go. They just hit again in the stakeout area.
No out in Highland Park. They're way out on this one.
What do you mean all the victim decide to give
them a little trouble. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
The male suspect broke off the bottom of a whiskey
bottle and worth the victim over almost killed him. At
one thirteen am, the par of thieves had entered a
small all night grocery store in the Highland Park area,
they'd gone through the usual part of their mo asking
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for the bottle of Canadian whiskey and then the money. However,
when they asked the victim to turn over the money
to them, he had told them to get out of
the store.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
The male member of the team had grabbed the.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Bottle, hit it against the counter, breaking off the bottom,
and then struck the victim several times about the hid
and shoulders. When we'd gotten the call, a man had
been removed to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, where he was
in a critical condition. An immediate search of the area
had failed to turn up anything that might lead us
to the apprehension of the man and woman. A city
wide broadcast was gotten out on the pair and arrangements
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were made for their description to be broadcast on the
police television program. Newspapers carried the stories and joined with
us and asked him for full co operation from the public.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
For the next three days, we received several calls.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
With information on the suspects, but when all of these
were checked and shifted, we were right back where we started.
A stakeout were maintained on the liquor stores, but the
suspects failed to hit again on Monday, August fourth, we
got a call from the County hospital telling us that
the latest victim was in condition to be interviewed slats.
Henry and I drove over to see him. He was
unable to tell us anything more than a dozen victims
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before him had told us.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Three fifteen p m. We went back to the office.
I'll checked the book. Yeah, arguin ah a message here
that a recent ma chan he called. He left the
number say what he wanted. No, he just wants us
to call. It's the table. We're gonna look something in
the dis light and should wobble up him in there
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wait for years, you know, like speak to mister Reese McKay. Please.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
My name is Friday, Los Angeles Police Department. No police department. Yes,
surely it's an attorney's office.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yes, sir, this is Sergeant Friday. Yes, sir, certainly. When
was this all right, sir? No, We'll be right over, Yes, sir,
thank you very much. How it might be something? What
do you say?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
A woman was in his office this afternoon said something
about being involved in the robbery. Sergeant Henry and I
signed out of the office and drove over to the
address the lawyer had given me on the phone. We
waited in the reception room for a few minutes, and
then his secretary I actually this into mister McKay's office.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Come in, gentlemen, Thank you very much. You I'm RYE McKay. Yes,
this is Sergeant Henry. My name's Friday. Oh, yes, you're
the gentleman I talked to on the phone. That's right. Well,
sit down and I'll try and tell you what happened.
All right, thank you very much. You've got to realize
my problem in this thing. Yes, sure, what's that?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well, if this isn't anything worthwhile, I certainly don't want
to have a client embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You can understand that, Yes, sir, I suppose I just
tell you what happened and we can go on from there.
I p'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
A couple of days ago I got a call from
a young woman who said you wanted me to handle
a divorce for We set up in a point before
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
She came in. We went over the problem.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
I don't want to go to the detail of the
divorce action. I don't think that'll have any bearing on
the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
All. Well, to get to the short of it, we
were going over the necessary information. The door burst open.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
This man came in.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I wondered to know what was all about.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
My secretary was right behind him, seeing that he just
pushed his way right through the reception room.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well who was he? You know what? He said?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
He was the woman's husband. That's true, But apparently I
told my secretary to wait outside. Then I asked him
what he wanted. It didn't pay attention to me at first,
that it wasn't any of my concern. Told me to
keep my oys out of it. Hu and he and
the woman had a big discussion. Seems that he didn't
want her to divorce. Who made all sorts of promises
how things would be different if she came back to him.
At first, she seemed to go along with the idea.
As you know, we we like to affect a reconciliation
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of ever possible. So I told him to go ahead
and talk it over. I left him in the office,
went out of the reception room, and for a while
it seemed they were getting along all right, and the
shouting died down and they seemed to have agreed.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
All of a sudden it broke Luci again. They started
screaming at each.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Other, and I went right back in the office, and
just as I opened the door, I heard the man
tell her that if she didn't come back, he'd caused
her luck. He said for her to remember that she
was spending ups when these were the exact words. Don't
forget you were.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Mixed up in those stick ups as deep as me.
I see. Can you give us the name and address
of the couple? Yes, sir, I have right hair. Thank you.
Pretty difficult to imagine that she'd be involved in anything
like that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Pretty woman, beautiful hair, isn't that right? Yes, flaming red.
We obtained the address the woman had given Reese McKay,
and we checked her name through R and I. We
found no criminal record on anyone answering your description. We
lack sheep brown and told him what had happened. I
asked the record division to make a run on my husband.
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We found that he'd been arrested three years before for
attempted armed robbery, but that he's been released for lack
of evidence. Five forty pm slats and I drove over
to the woman's address. The name on the mail body
in the apartment's lobby read mister and missus George Winston.
We rang the bell and we identified ourselves.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
You want to come in?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Thank you very much. Is there anyone else here, ma'am?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
You mean any apartment?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:32):
No, I'm alone.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Where's that door? Lead man?
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Bedroom?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You matter?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
If we take a look, Maybe you better tell me
what this is all about.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Christ huh, you better go ahead and slim? Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Suppose hare's about a nerve guess ma'am, Well, it's true
that it's all about. Isn't there some law that says
you got to make a complaint or something?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Where's your husband?
Speaker 6 (19:51):
That's a bum?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Where's he?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I don't know, and I don't care if I never
see him again? Nothing but trouble did I ever get
from him? Miserable man?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Do you have any where he is? No?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I don't think i'd tell you if I did. Until
you let me know what this is all about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
What's your husband do for a living man?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
The guys are so interested in him? Aren't you asking yourselves?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Why this is clean?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Joe? I told you that going in. What's this all about?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It? Come on?
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Tell me or get out.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We understand you and your husband had an argument this morning.
Two of you mentioned something about a robbery.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Oh, I understand it all now, now it's all real. Plain.
Look what George said was a joke. That's all just
a joke. It didn't mean anything by it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The way we got the story, six step, come downtown,
tell us all that.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
What for?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh, we's got some people down there we'd like you
to meet.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I got enough friends.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well I must put it down with these people would
like to meet you. Do you want to get your coat?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I think there's supposed to be something like a charge.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Isn't there? Yes, ma'am that's the way you want it.
I do, Ah, i'd suspicion of robber it.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
What makes you think you can make it stick?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, we wouldn't be taking in it. We didn't figure
we had a case. You'd save all of us a
lot of trouble if you'd tell us where we can
pick up your husband?
Speaker 6 (20:59):
What's in it for me?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What do you got now?
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, that's the best we can do.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
What makes you think you can hold up.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
This kind of a charge a dozen victims for one thing? Flats?
You wanna check the closet seat you find a green
coat in the red shoes and bird? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
So what happens if I've got a green coat.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, it makes us look pretty good, donn it.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
A lot of girls got green coats.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Now we're looking for one.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
She's supposed to look like me.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Description we got matches exactly.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
A lot of people in the world look like me.
Same people who have green coats, got 'em.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Joe found him up on the shelf in the closet.
Take a look and match what we heard. You know,
he'd like to try this coat on me?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 8 (21:34):
You just betting it's gonna cost the city a lot
of money, cause I'm really gonna make a.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Big thing out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, if we're wrong, we'll admit it, and.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
You admit you could be making a mistake.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, we don't.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
I read in the papers where there was an old
guy beat up in a robbery. On's you're after me for?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Might they? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
How's he doing? The old guy?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, we're not sure yet.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
He's gonna live, though, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I told you, miss Winston, we're not sure.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
You got a cigarette? Yeah? You really think you can
put me in those stories?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I can't make a deal. Huh. And I'll tell these
things and have it going easier.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
No, man, all we can do see that. It isn't
way best I can get. That's the best.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I'll take it. What I'll tell you about it.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
I tell you a whole thing, alright, go ahead, George.
I knew when he hit that old man we'd had it,
knew it right away.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
That's why we quit.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
I was afraid if the guy died, you'd be able
for murder. I didn't like the robbery part, but I
didn't want any part of a killing. I never did
like the set up.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Never.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I used to tell George I didn't like it. I
didn't make different see, and he wanted to be the
big man.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
He used to sit here after hitting up as you
get the morning, he'd laugh at the cops cause he
had him running after themselves. You know where he is, Yeah,
he's in a hotel down on West Seventh using the
name Evanston. I'll give it you a dress all idn't
want him, Oh, George, he's gonna be real surprised when
you walk in on him, real surprised. Sure, wish I
could see the expression on his face when he finds
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out what happened.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Should like to see it?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What makes you even done it? You'll want to see yours.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Geraldine Roland Winston were tried agree five counts. As prescribed
by law, robbery in the first degree is punishable by
imprisonment for a period of not less than five years
in the state penitentiary.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
You have just heard Dragnet, authentic story of your police
force in action and starring Jack Webb. A presentation of
the United States Armed Forces Radio Services
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you're about to hear is true.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent drag men.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. A
pair of thieves has been terrorizing the merchants in your city.
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They're described as a man and a woman. From their actions,
you know they're capable of murder.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Your job. Stop 'em.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It was Wednesday, July twenty third. It was warm in
Los Angeles. We were working the night watch out of
robbery detail. My partner's Frank Smith, the boss's chief of detective,
stabbed around.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I was on my way back from the main jail
and it was eight sixteen pm when I after Room
twenty seven eight, Robbery Detail.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Fire Slack Joe Any worn through. Frank. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I talked to Skipper this morning. Said they were having
a little trouble with that extradition. Anything big, No, I
guess not. Chief Brown said the authorities back in Saint
Louis would get it straightened out. Frank, I'll be back
in the middle next week. Skipper said, he wants me
to work with you on that liquor store thing.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Kathy and I can use some help. We run down
just about every lead there is. They all end up
in the same place.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
All I got a little of it. You want to
fill me in on the rest, Yeah, hot shot, I
don't get it. I even got it firsthand. Yeah, they
just scored again.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Sergeant Slats, Henry, Tom Gaffney and I went downstairs to
the car pool. We took out our robbery car and
we rolled on the call code three. It took us
a little over ten minutes to get to the corner
of Alexandria and Burns Avenues. The place that had reported
being robbed was a small neighborhood liquor store.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
For the time we'd gotten there, a radio card.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Answered the call and a Fellawy car from Hollywood Division
had gotten there. While Gaffney talked with the men in
the Fellamy car, Slats and I went inside the store
to see the victim. The uniformed officer who was with
him told us that the elderly man's name was Charles Osburn.
We got what information the officer had been able to get,
and while he went to his unit to get out
a broadcast on the suspects, Slats and I talked to osmon.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Well, there isn't much to tell. I guess they worked
it the same way they've been doing. That's the way
I tells the papers, the same There were two of them,
were there?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah? Man, the woman? Who might be better? If you
tell us just exactly what happened, we'll just pick up
any paper. It's all there. They've been doing the same
thing for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I don't understand it. I don't what's that, mister Rasbury? Well,
these two just walk into any store and take what
they want. You guys don't seem to be able to
stop them. You go, great guns after they've held up somebody,
then you were great? But why are you when they're
doing the robin?
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Where are you there? Where? You know?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
If you'll just calm down here and tell us what happened,
we might be able to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh, well, they come in just like always. By what
time was that? Well that must have been round. I
was a little too busy to look at my watch.
You want to go ahead?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Well there was two of them, man, the woman, Yes, sir, man,
the woman sit over there, door. Woman walked right up.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Here at the counter, right up and stood there where
he stopped. I thought she had a cold or something.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I wasn't long that thought.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Hell long though, No, it's heard, not long at all.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yes see, E turned out to be a mask, thanks you,
you know, right across here, right here, across the face.
About that time, of course, I realized there was something
was wrong. You know, anybody walked into the store the
mask off, They don't mean no good?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh none, yes said Did you get a good look
at the pair before they put the masks on?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, sin, not at all. No, No.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They had them kind of up over their mouths when
they come in, kind of like they was going to
call for something.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And they took their hands away, and I could see
that the hanksiors was tied right on, tied. Yes see,
you want to go ahead?
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Well, this woman come over the counter and ask me
for a bottle of canade in whiskey, just as calm
as can be. I spoke right out now time, he says.
I walked over you see there. Yeah, that's why I
keep the Canadian stuff and got a bottle. I see,
got it right down. And I turned around and as
you was just standing there with a mask on, had
it tied right around tied.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes. See what happened then? Well, I asked them what
the big idea was. I thought that maybe they was
paying a little joke to see they was what was
on me?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A woman told me to put the bottle in a
paper bag and put the money in the bank too,
told me to open the register and just put all
the money right in the bank.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Did you see if they were armed? No, wonder, you
haven't caught them, sir.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You got a life size picture of me giving them
the money.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
If they wasn't arm you got that kind idea? Well, sir,
we just want to know if they had guns. Of
course they hadn't. God. Did you see them, well, naturally
right out in the open.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
No, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait wait a second,
Come right down to it. I didn't actually see them.
The fellow was at the door over there. He had
his hand in his pocket. She had her hand in
a perch, see like this, you see like this kind
of come right down to it. I didn't really see him. No, well,
I'm sure they was there. I'm sure, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, what happened after the woman asked for the money, Well.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Her and the fellow just told me not to move
for five minutes. Had me to keep real still and
I wouldn't get hurt. I just took it easy, and
they left the store.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They walk away from the place. Oh no, no, sir.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
They had a car park right out in front, right
in front, got into.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That roared down the street. I counted to one hundred
by ones and then called you. Did the uniform officer
get a descript? Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It right off, all right, mister Osmond, if you'd give
us a description of the pair.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Well, the woman was about holds and maybe five for
three around and there waiting around the one hundred and thirty,
just flame and red had due eye?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Really was that color? What color was the eyes? Framing red?
Flaming red? I told you that eyes?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yes, Why I'm all confused. Yeah, well her eyes were blue.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes, that's how I knew that. His hair was bright red.
What was she wearing? Oh, had all the kind of
bread green, kind of green coat.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Red purse, red shoes, low heel, the front was cut out.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
How about the man? What do he look like? Oh,
he's a big one. He must have been around sixty.
I couldn't tell good because he was standing over there
with a door. But he was a big one. I
tell you he weighed about one hundred and seventy maybe more.
How about his coloring? Dark, dark hair, dark eyes. Of
course I couldn't see anything very good. Then he had
that mask on. What was he wearing? He had the
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blue shoes on, looked kind of like it was linen.
How about his shirt and tie? White shirt, black tie shirt,
was a button down collar, no hat.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Did either one of them have any marks or scards?
It might make it easier to identify him, not that
I could see, no, sir. Well, how about accents? Either
of them have any kind of speech peculiarity?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Exactly what the woman said to you? Do you remember
the words she used? Well?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
First off, she asked for the whiskey, said give me
a bottle of Canadian whiskey.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Didn't mention any special brand.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Then when I brought it back, she said johns put
it to the paper bag, and after the register in
that too.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's what the woman said. Did the man say anything
at all?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, when there was leaving, he said, stay for pop.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Stayed there for five minutes. You won't get hurt. Those
there's words exact. I remember them all right, sir.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
We'd like you to come downtown. Check the pictures for
us if you will. Well, I guess it'll be all right.
You guys should sure get on the ball though. It's
getting pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Sir. It seems a little silly you can't catch these
people right out.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Instead of rushing around locking the door after the horse
has been stole.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's a little late then, seems to me.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, sir, Well, they've been pretty lucky. They'll probably try
the same thing again. Yeah, we'll try to beat it
the next time. The search of the immediate area failed
to turn up anything that might lead to the identity
of the thieves. A broadcast had been gotten out to
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all cars in the city, giving the description of the couple,
the automobile were driving, and the clothes they were wearing.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The pair was at the past three weeks in that
they planned to work. They'd steal a car.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Then, on the night that they started their operation, they'd
pick one of the city's main arterials and start at.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
One end of it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
They'd hit three or four stores in the area in
a period of half an hour. The stolen car would
be parked on a side street, and the couple would
make good their escape. All of the routine efforts had
been made to identify them. Due to the fact that
a woman was involved in the operation. The State of
Dulled Authority for women had been contacted for the names
of recent parolees, but when these had been checked out,
we netted nothing. Because of the circumstances of the mo
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we felt that the first break in the case would
come through the woman. The Stats Office had made several
runs and the possibles had been checked doubt results nothing.
Five minutes after we'd left the first victim, we got
a ball. The parrot hit again, further down on Alexandria Avenue.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Probably let us go there with place. Yeah you the cop, Yes, sir,
that's right, I'm the fellow robbed. I'm him slash. Ye's
even try to clear the further place.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, all right, sir, if you'd like to tell us.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What happened here? Terrible, most terrible thing that.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Ever happened to me, Yes, sir, I gotta have a
little something to calm my nerves.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Gotta what can I guess you anything, sir?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Don't have to shine. I got all right here, a
whole store full of it. Just a minute, A little brandy,
that's what I need. Mother, Sure gonna think I took
the little nip just to have it. Gonna have to
explain the whole thing to her. Imagine me being robbed.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yes, you know, if you tell us what happened here
it excuse me, like look it, this is no sir.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, yeah, these two come in here not going five
minutes ago. Man woman came right in and asked for
a bottle of whiskey.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Do you recall what brand?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
He didn't ask for, no special brand, just said they
wanted Canada Whiskey blend.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He'd be able to give us a description of him.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I have a woman had red hair, and that's about
the only thing I do remember about her, other than
the way she talked.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
How he means a foulmouth? Where she swore at me?
Just something fierce? What did she say? Oh, guests swear words.
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I guess I didn't get the bottle fast enough. Firm
just told me to harry when she'd say it like that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Where was the matter?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh he was over here at the cash rest. No, no,
she said, over the door. Seemed to be the look
out or something. She didn't come up past you there
right there.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
By the bit of chip. Right, that's spout. She come
when you said they used guns? Oh yeah, big, I
guess there must have been that long bear, must have
been that big round. What kind of a gun was
it was? You know, I don't think I know what
you mean. Or was an automatic or a revolver?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And I'm sorry, officer, but I don't understand all I know.
It was the biggest gun I ever saw.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Must have been that long, that big round. Did it
look like this one?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh no, No, that's just tea shooter compared to one
that fella was waiting around. Did you see a car
when they left, Yes, I did, right out in front
was park in front of the sign. Hey you see
there where it says reserved for patron. Yeah, see right there,
that's where the car was. Half the fellow told me
his dump the cash into the paper bag with a bottle.
The woman opened the door and both of them ran
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out and jumped into the car roared off down the street.
But I got a good look at it, real good.
Then you can give us a description of it, and
you bet I can. Dark nineteen fifty three Ford Sedan
four door had one of them some things on the front,
you know, like a shade. Yes, used to have them
on the buggage when I was a young man. I
guess if you wait long enough, they get back to everything.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yes, how much money did they get away with it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I guess must have been around two hundred and twenty
five dollars round in there someplace.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Give a couple, take a couple. Do you think you'd
know either one of these people if you ever saw
him again?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
He would just bet I would, even with those masks on,
I'd be able to pick him right. We just had
point him out. I never forget that gun. The biggest
gun I ever saw must have been that long, that
big round. How'd they look, Joe, Well, it's the same couple.
Description fits perfectly. I checked around the people in the crowd.
Found one old guy that says he saw the pair
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come out of the store. Got a good description of
the car. One if I can tell you anything you
want to know, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
We appreciate that, but we do want to talk to
everybody who knows anything about the hold up.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
All right, you go ahead and talk to the other fella.
You go out ahead. Yeah, I got something he can't
give you. Or that's a license number of the car
they drove.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
An immediate supplementary broadcast was gotten out to the cars
in the area, with special attention to the units covering
Alexandria Avenue. The search for the pair of thieves went on,
but as the hours passed and they failed to hit again,
it became apparent that they had alluded us again. The
next morning, the car was found abandoned on the east
side of Los Angeles. It was a stolen vehicle, and
after it had been checked for the crime lab for
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Layton Prince, we were no further toward apprehending the suspects.
The conferences were held with the Chief of Detectives that Brown,
and it was decided to place an extensive stakeout on
the liquor stores in the Hollywood area. From past performances,
the pair seemed to work their operation in that general
area more than the other parts of town.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The stakeout was maintained for three days without results.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
On Tuesday night, July twenty ninth, Sergeant Henry and I
waited in the squad room for reports from the other
officers out in the field.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
One fifteen am and looks like another night shot. Yeah,
still no action.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Stories will be closing in about forty five minutes now,
and you got a cigarette?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm monk. Yeah, all right, there's a couple left in here.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, just two here, go ahead, I'll go down the
hall and get a couple of pas. Wait all right, Yeah,
heard from Frank.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I talked to Faye night before last. She got a
letter from him. He said he thought he'd be back
by the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Say how it's going.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
No, he's just read me in a couple of parts
of the letter. I guess it's all straight out. Suspects
coming back.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
On his own extraditions can sure be of pain. I
had to go back to New Orleans on one last year,
had a miserable time. Guy, give us a lot of
Trump and I get it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now, let's go. They just hit again in the stakeout area.
No out in Highland Park. They're way out on this one.
What do you mean all the victim decide to give
them a little trouble. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
The male suspect broke off the bottom of a whiskey
bottle and worth the victim over almost killed him. At
one thirteen am, the par of thieves had entered a
small all night grocery store in the Highland Park area,
they'd gone through the usual part of their mo asking
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for the bottle of Canadian whiskey and then the money. However,
when they asked the victim to turn over the money
to them, he had told them to get out of
the store.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
The male member of the team had grabbed the.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Bottle, hit it against the counter, breaking off the bottom,
and then struck the victim several times about the hid
and shoulders. When we'd gotten the call, a man had
been removed to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, where he was
in a critical condition. An immediate search of the area
had failed to turn up anything that might lead us
to the apprehension of the man and woman. A city
wide broadcast was gotten out on the pair and arrangements
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were made for their description to be broadcast on the
police television program. Newspapers carried the stories and joined with
us and asked him for full co operation from the public.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
For the next three days, we received several calls.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
With information on the suspects, but when all of these
were checked and shifted, we were right back where we started.
A stakeout were maintained on the liquor stores, but the
suspects failed to hit again on Monday, August fourth, we
got a call from the County hospital telling us that
the latest victim was in condition to be interviewed slats.
Henry and I drove over to see him. He was
unable to tell us anything more than a dozen victims
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before him had told us.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Three fifteen p m. We went back to the office.
I'll checked the book. Yeah, arguin ah a message here
that a recent ma chan he called. He left the
number say what he wanted. No, he just wants us
to call. It's the table. We're gonna look something in
the dis light and should wobble up him in there
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wait for years, you know, like speak to mister Reese McKay. Please.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
My name is Friday, Los Angeles Police Department. No police department. Yes,
surely it's an attorney's office.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yes, sir, this is Sergeant Friday. Yes, sir, certainly. When
was this all right, sir? No, We'll be right over, Yes, sir,
thank you very much. How it might be something? What
do you say?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
A woman was in his office this afternoon said something
about being involved in the robbery. Sergeant Henry and I
signed out of the office and drove over to the
address the lawyer had given me on the phone. We
waited in the reception room for a few minutes, and
then his secretary I actually this into mister McKay's office.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Come in, gentlemen, Thank you very much. You I'm RYE McKay. Yes,
this is Sergeant Henry. My name's Friday. Oh, yes, you're
the gentleman I talked to on the phone. That's right. Well,
sit down and I'll try and tell you what happened.
All right, thank you very much. You've got to realize
my problem in this thing. Yes, sure, what's that?
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well, if this isn't anything worthwhile, I certainly don't want
to have a client embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You can understand that, Yes, sir, I suppose I just
tell you what happened and we can go on from there.
I p'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
A couple of days ago I got a call from
a young woman who said you wanted me to handle
a divorce for We set up in a point before
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
She came in. We went over the problem.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
I don't want to go to the detail of the
divorce action. I don't think that'll have any bearing on
the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
All. Well, to get to the short of it, we
were going over the necessary information. The door burst open.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
This man came in.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I wondered to know what was all about.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
My secretary was right behind him, seeing that he just
pushed his way right through the reception room.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well who was he? You know what? He said?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
He was the woman's husband. That's true, But apparently I
told my secretary to wait outside. Then I asked him
what he wanted. It didn't pay attention to me at first,
that it wasn't any of my concern. Told me to
keep my oys out of it. Hu and he and
the woman had a big discussion. Seems that he didn't
want her to divorce. Who made all sorts of promises
how things would be different if she came back to him.
At first, she seemed to go along with the idea.
As you know, we we like to affect a reconciliation
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of ever possible. So I told him to go ahead
and talk it over. I left him in the office,
went out of the reception room, and for a while
it seemed they were getting along all right, and the
shouting died down and they seemed to have agreed.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
All of a sudden it broke Luci again. They started
screaming at each.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Other, and I went right back in the office, and
just as I opened the door, I heard the man
tell her that if she didn't come back, he'd caused
her luck. He said for her to remember that she
was spending ups when these were the exact words. Don't
forget you were.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Mixed up in those stick ups as deep as me.
I see. Can you give us the name and address
of the couple? Yes, sir, I have right hair. Thank you.
Pretty difficult to imagine that she'd be involved in anything
like that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Pretty woman, beautiful hair, isn't that right? Yes, flaming red.
We obtained the address the woman had given Reese McKay,
and we checked her name through R and I. We
found no criminal record on anyone answering your description. We
lack sheep brown and told him what had happened. I
asked the record division to make a run on my husband.
(19:10):
We found that he'd been arrested three years before for
attempted armed robbery, but that he's been released for lack
of evidence. Five forty pm slats and I drove over
to the woman's address. The name on the mail body
in the apartment's lobby read mister and missus George Winston.
We rang the bell and we identified ourselves.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
You want to come in?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Thank you very much. Is there anyone else here, ma'am?
Speaker 6 (19:31):
You mean any apartment?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (19:32):
No, I'm alone.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Where's that door? Lead man?
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Bedroom?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You matter?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
If we take a look, Maybe you better tell me
what this is all about.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Christ huh, you better go ahead and slim? Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Suppose hare's about a nerve guess ma'am, Well, it's true
that it's all about. Isn't there some law that says
you got to make a complaint or something?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Where's your husband?
Speaker 6 (19:51):
That's a bum?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Where's he?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I don't know, and I don't care if I never
see him again? Nothing but trouble did I ever get
from him? Miserable man?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Do you have any where he is? No?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I don't think i'd tell you if I did. Until
you let me know what this is all about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
What's your husband do for a living man?
Speaker 6 (20:08):
The guys are so interested in him? Aren't you asking yourselves?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Why this is clean?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Joe? I told you that going in. What's this all about?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It? Come on?
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Tell me or get out.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We understand you and your husband had an argument this morning.
Two of you mentioned something about a robbery.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Oh, I understand it all now, now it's all real. Plain.
Look what George said was a joke. That's all just
a joke. It didn't mean anything by it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The way we got the story, six step, come downtown,
tell us all that.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
What for?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh, we's got some people down there we'd like you
to meet.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I got enough friends.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well I must put it down with these people would
like to meet you. Do you want to get your coat?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I think there's supposed to be something like a charge.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Isn't there? Yes, ma'am that's the way you want it.
I do, Ah, i'd suspicion of robber it.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
What makes you think you can make it stick?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, we wouldn't be taking in it. We didn't figure
we had a case. You'd save all of us a
lot of trouble if you'd tell us where we can
pick up your husband?
Speaker 6 (20:59):
What's in it for me?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What do you got now?
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, that's the best we can do.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
What makes you think you can hold up.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
This kind of a charge a dozen victims for one thing? Flats?
You wanna check the closet seat you find a green
coat in the red shoes and bird? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
So what happens if I've got a green coat.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, it makes us look pretty good, donn it.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
A lot of girls got green coats.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Now we're looking for one.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
She's supposed to look like me.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Description we got matches exactly.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
A lot of people in the world look like me.
Same people who have green coats, got 'em.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Joe found him up on the shelf in the closet.
Take a look and match what we heard. You know,
he'd like to try this coat on me?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Is that right?
Speaker 8 (21:34):
You just betting it's gonna cost the city a lot
of money, cause I'm really gonna make a.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Big thing out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, if we're wrong, we'll admit it, and.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
You admit you could be making a mistake.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, we don't.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
I read in the papers where there was an old
guy beat up in a robbery. On's you're after me for?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Might they? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
How's he doing? The old guy?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, we're not sure yet.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
He's gonna live, though, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I told you, miss Winston, we're not sure.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
You got a cigarette? Yeah? You really think you can
put me in those stories?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yes, we do.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I can't make a deal. Huh. And I'll tell these
things and have it going easier.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
No, man, all we can do see that. It isn't
way best I can get. That's the best.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
I'll take it. What I'll tell you about it.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
I tell you a whole thing, alright, go ahead, George.
I knew when he hit that old man we'd had it,
knew it right away.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
That's why we quit.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
I was afraid if the guy died, you'd be able
for murder. I didn't like the robbery part, but I
didn't want any part of a killing. I never did
like the set up.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Never.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I used to tell George I didn't like it. I
didn't make different see, and he wanted to be the
big man.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
He used to sit here after hitting up as you
get the morning, he'd laugh at the cops cause he
had him running after themselves. You know where he is, Yeah,
he's in a hotel down on West Seventh using the
name Evanston. I'll give it you a dress all idn't
want him, Oh, George, he's gonna be real surprised when
you walk in on him, real surprised. Sure, wish I
could see the expression on his face when he finds
(23:01):
out what happened.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Should like to see it?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What makes you even done it? You'll want to see yours.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Geraldine Roland Winston were tried agree five counts. As prescribed
by law, robbery in the first degree is punishable by
imprisonment for a period of not less than five years
in the state penitentiary.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
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