May 16, 2025 • 25 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Time, Ladies and gentlemen, the story you were about to
hear is true. The names have been change to protect
the innocent.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Drag man.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. A
supermarket in your city has been robbed. The fee four
of the guys. You don't know who he is or
what he looks like.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Your job find It was Wednesday, August thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It was worn him in lost ange cause we were
working to day watch out a robbery detail. My partner's
Frank Spence. The bosses she want to teach his dad bound.
My name was Fray. I gone my way into the office.
That was seven fifty eight a m. When I got
to room twenty seven eight. Robbery of Thanks, give what
it was about? Feminist and don't be a hot one?
The gay and the answer protect per sent ain't either
(01:01):
of us.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You know how about those mounds they commence breathy. Yeah,
I put 'em in your box. Thank you you take 'em?
Look at him? Hey? Thanks? What I said? Did you
see them up? Oh? No, all right, what's the matter?
Say so what happened? Joe? You know me? You know
(01:25):
how I feel about it? Say that you gotta know.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I didn't mean anything by it. He didn't mean anything,
certainly not. It's the privest thing for my mind. What
was what she thought I meant? You know, Joe is
sometimes I think they just don't understand me. Well, I
don't understand either on this one. Oh that's fact. You
weren't there, you know, So they got to thinking to
myself if you were, you know, I got had that. Uh,
I got thinking to myself and I got a problem
and trying to think that the old body knows all
(01:48):
about it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, so I gotta sell you in. I'll tell you
all about it right now.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, and see, after dinner last night, we have those
Swedish meatballs that they make so good. It's the one
meatballs Swedish one's. Oh yeah, I'm I had those out there,
one very good, excellent. Well, after dinner last night, we
went in the living room, sat down to watch the television.
I switched on the set and I kind of arrange
the pillows and settled back. A couple of minutes later,
Fay comes in with a box, one of those big flat.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Ones like dresses come in you know what I mean.
She bought a new dress. Show that's why she picks
the meatball.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I don't know how that's gonna end, but up to
here I must be on face that I guess. Yeah,
well I don't understand any of it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh well, I'm taking that not.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
See, whenever she wants me to go along with something
she's already done, she always makes sweedish.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Meatball, So I could figure that part out. What was
in the box? A dressed Joe? She bought a dress?
Oh it was a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
She opened up the box and shows it to me.
Tell me how she bought it on sale? Do you
ever notice every time a woman buys a dress, it's
always on sale? No, I can't say as I ever have. Well,
I believe me, buddy, it always had I wanna say,
on sale. I don't want you to go through the
whole day with this on your mind. But if you
don't get to the point that we can't for what
you signed out, you know, talk about well, I didn't
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need anybody nothing. She held the dress up for me
to see, and all I did.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I just said, what size is it? You know how
you did? Well? Look at these mud shots.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now, wait a minute, I wanna finish. You asked me
what I was mad about I don wanted to tell you.
I asked her what size the dress was. She told
me he was a twelve or twelve for twelve. Yeah,
So I just kind of casually mentioned it when we
got married if she wore nine, that's all I said
that she wore nine. Well, look at the much shots. Now, no,
wait a minute, what do you help me with this thing?
(03:35):
She used to be in partnercause you can't help a little.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We'll look at the mount shots. When we were.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Married, she wore a nine and she just flipped her
whigs jow. She got real mad, walked out of the room,
right out of the room. Yeah, she thought I meant
she was getting back.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
She didn't. Let's go corner Grand View Union and pulled up.
But the time we got to the.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Supermarket, a broadcast carrying infective and gotten out to all
cars in the city. A small crowd of people had
gathered in front of the store and the office from
the radio unit, and to keep him back from the entrance.
An ambulance had been called, and when we got there,
the attendants for giving emergency treatment to the day manager
of the park and had been struck on the left
side of the head just ant of these niggas get away.
The attendant told us that the man was suffering from
a mild concussion. Frank and I entered the store and
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talked to one of the policemen he was there. He
led us back to a small office in the rear
of the place, where we met the other two victims.
One was a cashier of the store, Arma Watson. The
other was the man who had the meeting session in
the shore, Tom Spent. We asked him to tell us
what happened.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The first thing I saw him was round the park
from a car, and the locked guy was standing right
to the side door.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's right to stand there comes cold beef. I saw
him when I opened up the place.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You wanna go ahead?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, I am locked the door and we all came in.
Man did too, just walk right in.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We don't normal let people come in to a race
hardly ever, but since Gerald was there, we figured he
could take care of the man.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean, Gerald's the man the ambulance. Yeah, that's tried.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Pulled up Tellor gaim An off the plot on the
head giving concussion and cushion.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The head tell you something about that too, But that
was was it? I don't really think Cherl's hit that hard.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I think he's just putting on to get sympathy now
or that he's right not good safe things like that.
Maybe not, But I tell you you remember remember the
time he cut his finger when he was moving the
kids of empty soda pop bottles. Yeah, when you were there,
had to rush him to the hospital. Have his hands
so enough coup a lot of foolishness people that he's
it would have taken care of the sympathy.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
That's what he wants.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
U can with Joanna's He was talking about what happened
after he came in the short place.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh, I went upstairs and they turned on the lights.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I have to turn 'em off from up their office
up there.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's where I was. Turned on the lights and come
down to open the safe.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Is that your job over the safe in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, a huge cat here, yes, So what happened there, Well,
Gerald was going out back to open the liver door
to go over to new checking and get tricking enough.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I would hold that man.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
During this time, was just trying of strolling around looking
at the different displays that'sing down the house, just looking.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Gerl'd opened up the back door and come back after
fell up there something especially, he's looking for us, The
guy said he wanted to know. Was they still after
van trophy was? Geryl told him fellow went back to.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Get some at the jerild top.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But we know different now, a lot different thought. Would
you go on plea?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I was.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Upstairs counting the receipts from yesterday, getting the bank statement ready,
Burma's cash here, Yeah, there we know.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Would you go on flee?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Well, first thing I know, the man standing right behind
me holding his gun, pointed right at me. He just
said he liked to scared me out of my wick.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Must have been terrible, Ima, it was.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I just turned around and there he was with his gun,
just about scared me to death.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's when he asked you for the money? Did it?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
He didn't ask, He just told me to put it
in a wooden box. He had just put it in
the box.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What did he say? What was the exact word, But
he just.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Kind of walked over and said, put the money in
the box and don't cause no trouble. This is a
stick up, I said, he said it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Irma did just what he said, sir.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I gave him the money, dumped it all in the box,
just like you said. And he told me to lay
down on the floor, just told me to lay down
and not to make any noise. He'd come back and
kill me. I think he had done it too.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I think you would have why I did what he said,
flatten the floor.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Did he have a box when he came in? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I had it under them.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I down behind the beach counter. All of a sudden,
I heard this.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That was me lest I let our yelling, and Tom here.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Heard it and I saw Gerald.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We time to look at each other, and then I
grabbed HiMAT clever and starred up the stairs. I didn't
know what was wrong, but I didn't know Hern was
in trouble. I appreciate that time, and I knew you
were in trouble. Now came aroun and got the stairs,
come up the office, and then I saw him. He
was just coming down. He still had a gun to
his Yeah, had the gun in the box.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I didn't know I was in this.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
At that time, but I had no idea. I just
kept it the clever and starved up the stairs.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Stopped when he saw me, stopped writing his tracks.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Tom's awful, brave, just so he told me.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
To get out of his way, else he'd kill me.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Way, he's pointing that gun around, trying to believe him.
So I backed down the stairs and came right behind me.
All the time he had that gun pointed at me.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Boy was the landager all the time? You mean gerald? Mm,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I was upstairs and I saw him.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
He was down to a cash git in front. He
saw this guy coming down the stairs and he ran
for the phone to call the police. Fella saw him
and he took off back to Gerrold's. I thought he
was gonna shoot him, but he didn't. Just hit him,
give him a concussion of the head. He got the
sympathy one hour, I mean year wrong, I seen it.
He'd give Jared's norvel head right along here? Real hard
m which way the man draft? He left the story
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play they ran down that way they had down union
or want to describe the man for him?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, maybe he was about the five seats. He was
dress a little better if he told us one was
the time, and he.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Guess you'd never get it death way here a little
difficulture here you go ahead to him?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Man, Well, I I told the other poet. Then he
was about the funniest looking little man I ever saw,
real little.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh not really, I think he just kind of hunched over.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, he looked little.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
About how tall were it? Oh about five foot eight
maybe nine?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Good day's about right? Tell him about where he was drafted?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh yeah, had on this black overcoat and a half
all pulled down over his eyes at the half.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I mean, what color was it hair? Do you remember
now what I to achieved? It was kind of bronged
black colored.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, that's right. And he had him Monday.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, really big, looked like the old fashion kids like
people rolling out. He had, you know, handlebar black, real black.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Little Where he.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Left the study, you noticed he got into a car, Yeah,
he did. I saw him running down the streets and
he jump in one dark color. I'm not sure what
kind it was, and I think it might have been
a Hudson late Marvel.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I saw that. I was looking out the side winder
upstairs and I saw the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Did you tell the other officers about it? Well? I
didn't needed to die. I guess I better got out
of broadcast on.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do you happen to get the license number of the car? Yeah?
That's where I went to work. Got it written down
right here on my an. See. Numbers ain't too plain,
but you can make 'em out. I'm no sure I can't.
You'll have to help me. There.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I got it two right here. I saw him getting
the car, and I wrote it down.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Uh huh, thank you. Having the number of the car
is gonna make it easier to catch the fella, ain't it,
And should.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Make it a snap. Just find out who owns the car,
and that's the man.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, it's not gonna be that easy, m friend, right,
both numbers are different. A supplemental broadcast was gotten out
carrying both the licensed numbers. If the victims had gotten
Frank what I'm gonna call the BMV asked mem to
forward all information on the numbers. The trying lab crew
came out and went over the place for fingerprints, but
they were not able to turn up anything that we
(09:59):
could use. Who continued to question the butcher in the
fast year, they got a complete description of the feet.
The one outstanding thing that both of them agreed on
was the mistake. Both said that it was a direct
contrast to the color of the man's hair, and said
that it might have been darkened with two Polly to
some kind of Greek. People in the vicinity were questioned,
but none of them were able to supply with any
new information. The injured manager was removed to Georgia treat
(10:21):
Receiving Hospital for emergency treatment and then referred to his
own doctrine. Frank and I talked to him, but he
only verified the story that was gotten from the other
two people in the store. Twelve forty five pm, they
returned to the city Hall and asked the staff's office
to start a run on them for us. The victims
were asked to go through the mud books, but they
were not able to identify any of the photographs. Frank
and I spent the rest of the day talking to
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the other storekeepers in the vicinity of the robbery.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
We asked each of.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Them if they'd seen anyone loitering in the area, anyone
who looks sufficient. From each of them, we got the
same answers. None of them could help us in establishing
the identity of the suspect. The kickback on the license
number came in from Sacramento, but when we checked out
the information, we were no closer to apprehending the fief.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The next morning, to the August fourteen. Frank and I
am at the squadroo. Hi, Joe fun I's old buddy
this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm all right, it said, unhappy the problem with say
stating now? Oh yeah, sure, got all last night. Everything's great,
all right, hey it we started last night.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
What's that playing me? We're going on a diet. I
was gonna lose a little weight and that's say. Yeah.
It was running wake anything new in the market? Hole left?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, the staff's officer finished to run for us this morning.
When you start checking out the possible Nah, it's a
good thing I wore. I'm walking through.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
H I get it. Robery Friday, Yeah, it's all that's right. No,
that's right. We'd like to hear it. Yeah, sure, alright,
we'll be out and see you. No right away, all right,
thank you very much. Bye. Oh you got fair shyeer
out of the market that I Arm'll watch him. Yeah,
(11:48):
you might have something for us? What's that? And she
just said, you think you know who the suspect is.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Frank and I drove out to the market, but we
went upstairs to the office in the rear of the
store and Erma Watson he was seated at a desk
with a large Leduer book opened in front of her.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I got to singing it over last night after I
got home, about the hold up man, that's all. There's
something about him the way after and talk made me
think I knew who he was, that i'd seen him
someplace before.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I read it work most of the night, just thinking
about it, and then all of a sudden it tended
to me right out of the irritated.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Me said there for him?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Well, why didn't work worth it? I thought I knew
him from him?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Where a man right here in the store. You mean
he's a customer?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
No, he works for us, right here in the store.
That's where I've seen him. It must satch kind of
fooled me for a minute, but not for long. I
remember what's the man's name? I didn't remember that, oh, say,
not last night. But I came down here this morning
and started through the books and came upon it.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Got it right here.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Take a look to yourself. See right there, get eld work.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's him. I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's Elderth's work here now.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Well yet and no, uh well he does and he doesn't.
He still got the job.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
But he ain't working right now, got to leave the
abs and keep that all through. So he wanted to
get and taking care of said he had to go
out of time.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And see especialist get it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Else's Wendy leave last week?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Sea got right here? That's say he worked was Wednesday,
August sixth steps last chase.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, it's Romadrick.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
What ves him out for you?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
H thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Here, I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Miss Washington will check into it. Oh, I've been a
cancer gure out at that mustache? What's it?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
The mustach? Cancer?
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Gar out?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
How he could have grown up so fast? Takes longer
than a week? Could get a mustache like that? Doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Right? Defends center? And yes where you're buying it? Frank
and I returned to the office room.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The names get Elsworth through the record girl, Well, Frank
went through the packages, checking your description. We'd gotten up
the stars back. Then I went down to the staft's
office and takes up the list of possible that they
had for ten twenty six am. I met Frank back
at the R and I County find how's it going?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And looks like we got a line one mm? Got
get Elsworth here? Pretty close to the description.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, beckerd me Saint Louis got big time back here
and nothing up with you forty four for tim robbery.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You are listening to Draygon. It the authentic story of
your police force.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
And next.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We sent him immediate request to the authorities in Saint Louis,
asking me if they forward all available information on their
suspect jed Elsworth. One fifteen pm, Frank and I.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Drove out to the address we've been given by the cash.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Year at the supermarket was a one story at Redwood
House in the Beverly Glen area.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
We rang it Ordell Yes, likes to jed Elsworth is
not here? Well do you know where it was? In reaching?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
What is about? Are you in trouble again?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Did you have in trouble again?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
We'd like talk Ton Freese your cops or police office.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Uh huh, BIG's that you're done this?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Since oh, it's just through team, We're gonna asks him
a couple of questions for.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
His I don't know well he lives here, doesn't Yeah,
I don't know where he is. I haven't seen the
stay before yesterday packed up in the left.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I don't know where it was.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, didn't you give you any idea where he was going? None?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Went through my first prick with money, I hadn't shoved off.
Don't much matter to me. If I never seen him again,
I'd probably be better off.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Wonder ifull we could see his things?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Anybody left?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's that sure?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Come on in in his room. I'm about to throw
him up. I don't want 'em, and I don't think
he'll be back for him this time down the home,
this boy, thank you? See what do you have to
him for?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That'll be a little better if we talked to him.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Sure, don't matter than me.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I'm still with him with trouble with cops since he
been't married. I didn't know he had a record when
I met him until after.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We got married. I found out he was a jail bird.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Right after we got married, the cops started coming around
asking questions, how long have you been married?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Fifteen months? Set him back in Saint Louis, I say,
right after he got out of jail.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I didn't know what's then if they dead, wouldn't have
nothing to do with him and meant nothing but trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Would you know if he asked me for people in
California that I ever saw.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You never talked about him?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Was he drive a cork? Judge?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Just for no, I didn't know him. When it's his room,
that's better.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Thank you offer.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm gonna throw it all out. Anything there you want,
just take it with you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think I'll wait. That's say.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
All the off is still good, but you don't take
I'll si off.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Your husband got any close friends at all in towns? Yeah,
got a lot of bums.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You give us their names and one name I know,
worry jessep and then Judge's a peal around all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I think this job at the store took up too
much pal time. It's freaking jeded quick.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Understand your husband had trouble with his stumps though, yeah,
ulso was he uner the care of.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
A doctor, uh huh all the time, taking pails and
eating special things as to the point where nothing my
cooks was right for the ultra we did.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Nothing but fight all the time, miserably eighteen months. I'm
glad he's guard. You never seen m again. It would
be a week too soon.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Can you give us the doctor's names? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
The one of the bills there got it in when
the rest something reminds me. Can you answer me something?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh? What's that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Am I responsible for his bills? The ones he grant
of himself without my help? I got a fan.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh man, that's not a police problem. You better check
with a lawyer on there.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
A writer?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yes, m more expense.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Seems like all they would put out money for him.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Boy, I'm glad he's gonna Do you have a picture
of him then, like a slash shot stiffer?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, yeah, wouldn't want nobody takes pictures of him. They
was bad luck.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
They had a mustache, didn't he must you say? Biz agre?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know what's something to take? The back records? Oh
those are mine.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I'm a stenographers. I think they'd work at homers and money. Uh,
it's letters. The one thing he ever did for me.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
What's suck?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
They got boxed for records, real big things. Took him
all day to make it just a plain, simple wooden box.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You thought it was a target, my haar or only
thing he ever did for me?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You hs been getting money phone calls here? No, m'stay.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
You'd notice what he'd call once in a while. I
told you there was real powers.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Do you ever hear any of the conversations annything just
throw miss sense. You know what they were talking about?
Not too good.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
They used to get a real secret, you know, low voices.
They were playing in something. No, I don't know what
it was that they were playing or something.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I ever saw a jack at the driver car?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah you know what's time, Yeah, New Hudson.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
M.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We got the address of the suspect's friend and we
go back to the city hall. We made arrangements for
a steakhout to be placed on the house in addition
to asking missus Elsworth to call us in the event
that she heard from her husband. But Rand the name
Lawrence jessep Drew R and I, and we came up
with a criminal record for him. Had listed several arrests
for burglery and autos there. According to his package, he'd
never been convicted in California. We sent a teletype up
to George breggt CII and Sacramento asking for further information
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on the man.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Four fifty pm, Frank.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And I left the office and were about to be
addressed giving us with the suspects wife. It was a
large boarding house in the Hollywood Hills there and we
talked to the landlady. She told us Jesseph wasn't then
looked she expected him by six pm. We asked if
she'd ever seen a man. Answering jed Elsworth's description, he
said the touch of man was a frequent visitor in
Jessop's room.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Five pm.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Frank and I am the company in the landlady. He
checked the room. We found nothing to type jessepin with
a robbery. We waited for him.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Five fifty eight pm. We came up the stairs and
opened the door.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What are you guys doing the police officers, Frank Smith Lange,
I still want to know what you're doing here.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Got a couple of questions for want to ask you, Jesson,
go ahead, I got nothing to high to ask. Where's
jet Elfer? I don't know. I haven't seen him a
couple of days. Why, but I stand you to a
pretty good friend.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
We're friends guys off his rocket?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What do you mean there?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
What I said when he got out of the can
a couple of years ago? Right away, he's doing his best.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Get back then A right sure. A couple of days
ago he called said he had to see me right away.
Had a big idea for both of us to make
a lot of money. So well, I don't wanna have
to work all my life. So I told him I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Laid out this big deal where.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
He could knock off a supermarket so it all worked out.
Told him I didn't want no part of it. I sure,
here's the dog. Yeah, but I'd take a chance on
going to jail for it. I already got a record.
That's me the rest of my life. The last couple
of times it didn't fall. Now, I just said I
was crazy not to pick up some easy money. The
hurt Fellah says, said, yeah, I saw an answered. He
came over in the morning, told me to forget all
about the market job, said, he realized it was wrong,
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asked me to drive my to Promona.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
What's fort he said? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I said he'd walked down on Hazel Uh that said
why Yeah, Well said he left her and was going
to pomone I had a job out there. You drive him, yeah,
to a motel are show it to you if you want,
because he still I don't know what I know. That's
where I left him, sitting out there counting the money.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
What money? He told me? He drew all the dough
out of his in.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Hazel's account said she wasn't gonna get any of it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Must they had about four thousand bucks. You know what
bank he had the money in?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And no he didn't say I didn't know him and
Hazel had that much. Of course she worked pretty hard, drifty.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Jid always said she was stinging a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Uh huh, yeah, had it in this wooden box, all
stacked in that really hard to believe what says about
the box. Cared about the ladiest guy I ever knew,
lasked one to work with his hand. Su're proud of it, though,
Su said he made the box himself.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Larry, JESSEP.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Frank and I drove out to the motel and Promona.
We checked with the manager, but found it the suspect.
We checked out that morning. Fortunately the room had not
been cleaned. Definitely went over on a shelf in the
closet we found the wooden box that Jessup had spoken
of was a duplicate of the one that we seen
at the suspect's home. We told the manager we were
taking it with us and asked her to noto price
and the event Elsworth returning if he had a car.
When they left, asked for the name of sty for
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Frank to come back from the suspect's room. There looks
why he pulled the robbery. Huh, yeah, that seems for
the ore. The the check was the automobile rental agencies
in the area. None of them had seen the man
answering the suspects description, and he asked him the call
us if such a man did come in. We'd drove
by Elder's house and picked up a wooden box that
he'd made for his wife's dictograph records. Both of the
containers were taken to the climb lab for comparison. We'drove
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to the markets that had been held up. All three
of the victims were shown the false mustache that we
found at the motel. All three said it was identical
with the one that the hold up man had worn.
Investigation when Jone kecked from the same con the nails
views were made for the same machine. The box we
found at the motel was shown to both the butcher
and the canhiers. They said that it was the same
one that the pief had carried. A local and an
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APD were put out on the suspect ask him that
he be picked up the suspicion of robbery. For the
next three days, the surveillance on the suspects house was maintained.
Followed Missus Elders's activities were observed. Sunday, August seventeenth, we
got a call with the suspect's wife had left the
house carrying a suit case. The officers on stakeout followed
it to the subway terminal in downtown Los Angeles. We
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met the then Missus Elsworth walked down to the landing
and appeared to be waiting. Frank An answered over the surveillance.
We waited nine thirty pm, ten, ten fifteen, ten, eighteen pm.
Yeah yeah, I kid like thirty S fifty.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
One, thirty money one get together? Yeah yeah, he said,
come up, hey, jesus, hey, come on money. Why else
was pulling up? Police offer, got the girls what you're
not gonna get out of here? Let's get it back
to him down to night. He's hurt. Yeah, I'll get
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an ambulance.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Hurd kid killing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
No, we sent her an ambulance and one get hurt.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I didn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Why's you call us when you heard from him?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I don't know, I don't know, he said. If I
met him and give me some money so we could
take the bills with you. He's gonna give me some money.
I was gonna call you. I said, I got the money.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's gonna yeah, Sure you will.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Chance to get off from under grave.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
He didn't care.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Away together. I was the one who worried about it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
He never cared.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
He never paid a bill.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Don't worry, He's going to pay this one.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Jared Warren Ellsworth was tried and convicted of robbery in
the first degree and received sentence as prescribed by law.
Robbery and the first degree is punishable by imprisonment from
the state penitentiary for a period of from five years
to life.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You have just heard Dragnet, The Authentic Story of your
Police Force in action and starring Jack Webb. A presentation
of the United States Armed Forces Radio Services
Speaker 5 (24:10):
COMPO
Time, Ladies and gentlemen, the story you were about to
hear is true. The names have been change to protect
the innocent.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Drag man.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned a robbery detail. A
supermarket in your city has been robbed. The fee four
of the guys. You don't know who he is or
what he looks like.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Your job find It was Wednesday, August thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It was worn him in lost ange cause we were
working to day watch out a robbery detail. My partner's
Frank Spence. The bosses she want to teach his dad bound.
My name was Fray. I gone my way into the office.
That was seven fifty eight a m. When I got
to room twenty seven eight. Robbery of Thanks, give what
it was about? Feminist and don't be a hot one?
The gay and the answer protect per sent ain't either
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of us.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You know how about those mounds they commence breathy. Yeah,
I put 'em in your box. Thank you you take 'em?
Look at him? Hey? Thanks? What I said? Did you
see them up? Oh? No, all right, what's the matter?
Say so what happened? Joe? You know me? You know
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how I feel about it? Say that you gotta know.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I didn't mean anything by it. He didn't mean anything,
certainly not. It's the privest thing for my mind. What
was what she thought I meant? You know, Joe is
sometimes I think they just don't understand me. Well, I
don't understand either on this one. Oh that's fact. You
weren't there, you know, So they got to thinking to
myself if you were, you know, I got had that. Uh,
I got thinking to myself and I got a problem
and trying to think that the old body knows all
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about it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, so I gotta sell you in. I'll tell you
all about it right now.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, and see, after dinner last night, we have those
Swedish meatballs that they make so good. It's the one
meatballs Swedish one's. Oh yeah, I'm I had those out there,
one very good, excellent. Well, after dinner last night, we
went in the living room, sat down to watch the television.
I switched on the set and I kind of arrange
the pillows and settled back. A couple of minutes later,
Fay comes in with a box, one of those big flat.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Ones like dresses come in you know what I mean.
She bought a new dress. Show that's why she picks
the meatball.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I don't know how that's gonna end, but up to
here I must be on face that I guess. Yeah,
well I don't understand any of it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh well, I'm taking that not.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
See, whenever she wants me to go along with something
she's already done, she always makes sweedish.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Meatball, So I could figure that part out. What was
in the box? A dressed Joe? She bought a dress?
Oh it was a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
She opened up the box and shows it to me.
Tell me how she bought it on sale? Do you
ever notice every time a woman buys a dress, it's
always on sale? No, I can't say as I ever have. Well,
I believe me, buddy, it always had I wanna say,
on sale. I don't want you to go through the
whole day with this on your mind. But if you
don't get to the point that we can't for what
you signed out, you know, talk about well, I didn't
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need anybody nothing. She held the dress up for me
to see, and all I did.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I just said, what size is it? You know how
you did? Well? Look at these mud shots.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Now, wait a minute, I wanna finish. You asked me
what I was mad about I don wanted to tell you.
I asked her what size the dress was. She told
me he was a twelve or twelve for twelve. Yeah,
So I just kind of casually mentioned it when we
got married if she wore nine, that's all I said
that she wore nine. Well, look at the much shots. Now, no,
wait a minute, what do you help me with this thing?
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She used to be in partnercause you can't help a little.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We'll look at the mount shots. When we were.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Married, she wore a nine and she just flipped her
whigs jow. She got real mad, walked out of the room,
right out of the room. Yeah, she thought I meant
she was getting back.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
She didn't. Let's go corner Grand View Union and pulled up.
But the time we got to the.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Supermarket, a broadcast carrying infective and gotten out to all
cars in the city. A small crowd of people had
gathered in front of the store and the office from
the radio unit, and to keep him back from the entrance.
An ambulance had been called, and when we got there,
the attendants for giving emergency treatment to the day manager
of the park and had been struck on the left
side of the head just ant of these niggas get away.
The attendant told us that the man was suffering from
a mild concussion. Frank and I entered the store and
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talked to one of the policemen he was there. He
led us back to a small office in the rear
of the place, where we met the other two victims.
One was a cashier of the store, Arma Watson. The
other was the man who had the meeting session in
the shore, Tom Spent. We asked him to tell us
what happened.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The first thing I saw him was round the park
from a car, and the locked guy was standing right
to the side door.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's right to stand there comes cold beef. I saw
him when I opened up the place.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You wanna go ahead?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, I am locked the door and we all came in.
Man did too, just walk right in.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We don't normal let people come in to a race
hardly ever, but since Gerald was there, we figured he
could take care of the man.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean, Gerald's the man the ambulance. Yeah, that's tried.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Pulled up Tellor gaim An off the plot on the
head giving concussion and cushion.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The head tell you something about that too, But that
was was it? I don't really think Cherl's hit that hard.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I think he's just putting on to get sympathy now
or that he's right not good safe things like that.
Maybe not, But I tell you you remember remember the
time he cut his finger when he was moving the
kids of empty soda pop bottles. Yeah, when you were there,
had to rush him to the hospital. Have his hands
so enough coup a lot of foolishness people that he's
it would have taken care of the sympathy.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
That's what he wants.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
U can with Joanna's He was talking about what happened
after he came in the short place.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh, I went upstairs and they turned on the lights.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I have to turn 'em off from up their office
up there.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's where I was. Turned on the lights and come
down to open the safe.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Is that your job over the safe in the morning.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, a huge cat here, yes, So what happened there, Well,
Gerald was going out back to open the liver door
to go over to new checking and get tricking enough.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I would hold that man.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
During this time, was just trying of strolling around looking
at the different displays that'sing down the house, just looking.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Gerl'd opened up the back door and come back after
fell up there something especially, he's looking for us, The
guy said he wanted to know. Was they still after
van trophy was? Geryl told him fellow went back to.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Get some at the jerild top.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But we know different now, a lot different thought. Would
you go on plea?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I was.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Upstairs counting the receipts from yesterday, getting the bank statement ready,
Burma's cash here, Yeah, there we know.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Would you go on flee?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Well, first thing I know, the man standing right behind
me holding his gun, pointed right at me. He just
said he liked to scared me out of my wick.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Must have been terrible, Ima, it was.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I just turned around and there he was with his gun,
just about scared me to death.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's when he asked you for the money? Did it?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
He didn't ask, He just told me to put it
in a wooden box. He had just put it in
the box.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What did he say? What was the exact word, But
he just.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Kind of walked over and said, put the money in
the box and don't cause no trouble. This is a
stick up, I said, he said it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Irma did just what he said, sir.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I gave him the money, dumped it all in the box,
just like you said. And he told me to lay
down on the floor, just told me to lay down
and not to make any noise. He'd come back and
kill me. I think he had done it too.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I think you would have why I did what he said,
flatten the floor.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Did he have a box when he came in? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I had it under them.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I down behind the beach counter. All of a sudden,
I heard this.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
That was me lest I let our yelling, and Tom here.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Heard it and I saw Gerald.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
We time to look at each other, and then I
grabbed HiMAT clever and starred up the stairs. I didn't
know what was wrong, but I didn't know Hern was
in trouble. I appreciate that time, and I knew you
were in trouble. Now came aroun and got the stairs,
come up the office, and then I saw him. He
was just coming down. He still had a gun to
his Yeah, had the gun in the box.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I didn't know I was in this.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
At that time, but I had no idea. I just
kept it the clever and starved up the stairs.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Stopped when he saw me, stopped writing his tracks.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Tom's awful, brave, just so he told me.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
To get out of his way, else he'd kill me.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Way, he's pointing that gun around, trying to believe him.
So I backed down the stairs and came right behind me.
All the time he had that gun pointed at me.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Boy was the landager all the time? You mean gerald? Mm,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I was upstairs and I saw him.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
He was down to a cash git in front. He
saw this guy coming down the stairs and he ran
for the phone to call the police. Fella saw him
and he took off back to Gerrold's. I thought he
was gonna shoot him, but he didn't. Just hit him,
give him a concussion of the head. He got the
sympathy one hour, I mean year wrong, I seen it.
He'd give Jared's norvel head right along here? Real hard
m which way the man draft? He left the story
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play they ran down that way they had down union
or want to describe the man for him?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, maybe he was about the five seats. He was
dress a little better if he told us one was
the time, and he.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Guess you'd never get it death way here a little
difficulture here you go ahead to him?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Man, Well, I I told the other poet. Then he
was about the funniest looking little man I ever saw,
real little.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh not really, I think he just kind of hunched over.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well, he looked little.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
About how tall were it? Oh about five foot eight
maybe nine?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Good day's about right? Tell him about where he was drafted?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh yeah, had on this black overcoat and a half
all pulled down over his eyes at the half.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I mean, what color was it hair? Do you remember
now what I to achieved? It was kind of bronged
black colored.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, that's right. And he had him Monday.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, really big, looked like the old fashion kids like
people rolling out. He had, you know, handlebar black, real black.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Little Where he.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Left the study, you noticed he got into a car, Yeah,
he did. I saw him running down the streets and
he jump in one dark color. I'm not sure what
kind it was, and I think it might have been
a Hudson late Marvel.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I saw that. I was looking out the side winder
upstairs and I saw the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Did you tell the other officers about it? Well? I
didn't needed to die. I guess I better got out
of broadcast on.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do you happen to get the license number of the car? Yeah?
That's where I went to work. Got it written down
right here on my an. See. Numbers ain't too plain,
but you can make 'em out. I'm no sure I can't.
You'll have to help me. There.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I got it two right here. I saw him getting
the car, and I wrote it down.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Uh huh, thank you. Having the number of the car
is gonna make it easier to catch the fella, ain't it,
And should.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Make it a snap. Just find out who owns the car,
and that's the man.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, it's not gonna be that easy, m friend, right,
both numbers are different. A supplemental broadcast was gotten out
carrying both the licensed numbers. If the victims had gotten
Frank what I'm gonna call the BMV asked mem to
forward all information on the numbers. The trying lab crew
came out and went over the place for fingerprints, but
they were not able to turn up anything that we
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could use. Who continued to question the butcher in the
fast year, they got a complete description of the feet.
The one outstanding thing that both of them agreed on
was the mistake. Both said that it was a direct
contrast to the color of the man's hair, and said
that it might have been darkened with two Polly to
some kind of Greek. People in the vicinity were questioned,
but none of them were able to supply with any
new information. The injured manager was removed to Georgia treat
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Receiving Hospital for emergency treatment and then referred to his
own doctrine. Frank and I talked to him, but he
only verified the story that was gotten from the other
two people in the store. Twelve forty five pm, they
returned to the city Hall and asked the staff's office
to start a run on them for us. The victims
were asked to go through the mud books, but they
were not able to identify any of the photographs. Frank
and I spent the rest of the day talking to
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the other storekeepers in the vicinity of the robbery.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
We asked each of.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Them if they'd seen anyone loitering in the area, anyone
who looks sufficient. From each of them, we got the
same answers. None of them could help us in establishing
the identity of the suspect. The kickback on the license
number came in from Sacramento, but when we checked out
the information, we were no closer to apprehending the fief.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
The next morning, to the August fourteen. Frank and I
am at the squadroo. Hi, Joe fun I's old buddy
this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm all right, it said, unhappy the problem with say
stating now? Oh yeah, sure, got all last night. Everything's great,
all right, hey it we started last night.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
What's that playing me? We're going on a diet. I
was gonna lose a little weight and that's say. Yeah.
It was running wake anything new in the market? Hole left?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, the staff's officer finished to run for us this morning.
When you start checking out the possible Nah, it's a
good thing I wore. I'm walking through.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
H I get it. Robery Friday, Yeah, it's all that's right. No,
that's right. We'd like to hear it. Yeah, sure, alright,
we'll be out and see you. No right away, all right,
thank you very much. Bye. Oh you got fair shyeer
out of the market that I Arm'll watch him. Yeah,
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you might have something for us? What's that? And she
just said, you think you know who the suspect is.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Frank and I drove out to the market, but we
went upstairs to the office in the rear of the
store and Erma Watson he was seated at a desk
with a large Leduer book opened in front of her.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I got to singing it over last night after I
got home, about the hold up man, that's all. There's
something about him the way after and talk made me
think I knew who he was, that i'd seen him
someplace before.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I read it work most of the night, just thinking
about it, and then all of a sudden it tended
to me right out of the irritated.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Me said there for him?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Well, why didn't work worth it? I thought I knew
him from him?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Where a man right here in the store. You mean
he's a customer?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
No, he works for us, right here in the store.
That's where I've seen him. It must satch kind of
fooled me for a minute, but not for long. I
remember what's the man's name? I didn't remember that, oh, say,
not last night. But I came down here this morning
and started through the books and came upon it.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Got it right here.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Take a look to yourself. See right there, get eld work.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
That's him. I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's Elderth's work here now.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Well yet and no, uh well he does and he doesn't.
He still got the job.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
But he ain't working right now, got to leave the
abs and keep that all through. So he wanted to
get and taking care of said he had to go
out of time.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And see especialist get it.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Else's Wendy leave last week?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Sea got right here? That's say he worked was Wednesday,
August sixth steps last chase.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, it's Romadrick.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
What ves him out for you?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
H thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Here, I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Miss Washington will check into it. Oh, I've been a
cancer gure out at that mustache? What's it?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
The mustach? Cancer?
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Gar out?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
How he could have grown up so fast? Takes longer
than a week? Could get a mustache like that? Doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Right? Defends center? And yes where you're buying it? Frank
and I returned to the office room.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The names get Elsworth through the record girl, Well, Frank
went through the packages, checking your description. We'd gotten up
the stars back. Then I went down to the staft's
office and takes up the list of possible that they
had for ten twenty six am. I met Frank back
at the R and I County find how's it going?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And looks like we got a line one mm? Got
get Elsworth here? Pretty close to the description.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, beckerd me Saint Louis got big time back here
and nothing up with you forty four for tim robbery.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You are listening to Draygon. It the authentic story of
your police force.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
And next.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
We sent him immediate request to the authorities in Saint Louis,
asking me if they forward all available information on their
suspect jed Elsworth. One fifteen pm, Frank and I.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Drove out to the address we've been given by the cash.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Year at the supermarket was a one story at Redwood
House in the Beverly Glen area.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
We rang it Ordell Yes, likes to jed Elsworth is
not here? Well do you know where it was? In reaching?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
What is about? Are you in trouble again?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Did you have in trouble again?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
We'd like talk Ton Freese your cops or police office.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Uh huh, BIG's that you're done this?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Since oh, it's just through team, We're gonna asks him
a couple of questions for.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
His I don't know well he lives here, doesn't Yeah,
I don't know where he is. I haven't seen the
stay before yesterday packed up in the left.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I don't know where it was.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, didn't you give you any idea where he was going? None?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Went through my first prick with money, I hadn't shoved off.
Don't much matter to me. If I never seen him again,
I'd probably be better off.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Wonder ifull we could see his things?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Anybody left?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's that sure?
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Come on in in his room. I'm about to throw
him up. I don't want 'em, and I don't think
he'll be back for him this time down the home,
this boy, thank you? See what do you have to
him for?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That'll be a little better if we talked to him.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Sure, don't matter than me.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I'm still with him with trouble with cops since he
been't married. I didn't know he had a record when
I met him until after.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We got married. I found out he was a jail bird.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Right after we got married, the cops started coming around
asking questions, how long have you been married?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Fifteen months? Set him back in Saint Louis, I say,
right after he got out of jail.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I didn't know what's then if they dead, wouldn't have
nothing to do with him and meant nothing but trouble.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Would you know if he asked me for people in
California that I ever saw.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You never talked about him?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Was he drive a cork? Judge?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Just for no, I didn't know him. When it's his room,
that's better.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Thank you offer.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm gonna throw it all out. Anything there you want,
just take it with you.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't think I'll wait. That's say.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
All the off is still good, but you don't take
I'll si off.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Your husband got any close friends at all in towns? Yeah,
got a lot of bums.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You give us their names and one name I know,
worry jessep and then Judge's a peal around all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I think this job at the store took up too
much pal time. It's freaking jeded quick.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Understand your husband had trouble with his stumps though, yeah,
ulso was he uner the care of.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
A doctor, uh huh all the time, taking pails and
eating special things as to the point where nothing my
cooks was right for the ultra we did.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Nothing but fight all the time, miserably eighteen months. I'm
glad he's guard. You never seen m again. It would
be a week too soon.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Can you give us the doctor's names? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
The one of the bills there got it in when
the rest something reminds me. Can you answer me something?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh? What's that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Am I responsible for his bills? The ones he grant
of himself without my help? I got a fan.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Oh man, that's not a police problem. You better check
with a lawyer on there.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
A writer?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yes, m more expense.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Seems like all they would put out money for him.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Boy, I'm glad he's gonna Do you have a picture
of him then, like a slash shot stiffer?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, yeah, wouldn't want nobody takes pictures of him. They
was bad luck.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
They had a mustache, didn't he must you say? Biz agre?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know what's something to take? The back records? Oh
those are mine.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I'm a stenographers. I think they'd work at homers and money. Uh,
it's letters. The one thing he ever did for me.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
What's suck?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
They got boxed for records, real big things. Took him
all day to make it just a plain, simple wooden box.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You thought it was a target, my haar or only
thing he ever did for me?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You hs been getting money phone calls here? No, m'stay.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
You'd notice what he'd call once in a while. I
told you there was real powers.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Do you ever hear any of the conversations annything just
throw miss sense. You know what they were talking about?
Not too good.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
They used to get a real secret, you know, low voices.
They were playing in something. No, I don't know what
it was that they were playing or something.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I ever saw a jack at the driver car?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah you know what's time, Yeah, New Hudson.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
M.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We got the address of the suspect's friend and we
go back to the city hall. We made arrangements for
a steakhout to be placed on the house in addition
to asking missus Elsworth to call us in the event
that she heard from her husband. But Rand the name
Lawrence jessep Drew R and I, and we came up
with a criminal record for him. Had listed several arrests
for burglery and autos there. According to his package, he'd
never been convicted in California. We sent a teletype up
to George breggt CII and Sacramento asking for further information
(18:26):
on the man.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Four fifty pm, Frank.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And I left the office and were about to be
addressed giving us with the suspects wife. It was a
large boarding house in the Hollywood Hills there and we
talked to the landlady. She told us Jesseph wasn't then
looked she expected him by six pm. We asked if
she'd ever seen a man. Answering jed Elsworth's description, he
said the touch of man was a frequent visitor in
Jessop's room.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Five pm.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Frank and I am the company in the landlady. He
checked the room. We found nothing to type jessepin with
a robbery. We waited for him.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Five fifty eight pm. We came up the stairs and
opened the door.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
What are you guys doing the police officers, Frank Smith Lange,
I still want to know what you're doing here.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Got a couple of questions for want to ask you, Jesson,
go ahead, I got nothing to high to ask. Where's
jet Elfer? I don't know. I haven't seen him a
couple of days. Why, but I stand you to a
pretty good friend.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
We're friends guys off his rocket?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What do you mean there?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
What I said when he got out of the can
a couple of years ago? Right away, he's doing his best.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Get back then A right sure. A couple of days
ago he called said he had to see me right away.
Had a big idea for both of us to make
a lot of money. So well, I don't wanna have
to work all my life. So I told him I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Laid out this big deal where.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
He could knock off a supermarket so it all worked out.
Told him I didn't want no part of it. I sure,
here's the dog. Yeah, but I'd take a chance on
going to jail for it. I already got a record.
That's me the rest of my life. The last couple
of times it didn't fall. Now, I just said I
was crazy not to pick up some easy money. The
hurt Fellah says, said, yeah, I saw an answered. He
came over in the morning, told me to forget all
about the market job, said, he realized it was wrong,
(19:48):
asked me to drive my to Promona.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
What's fort he said? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I said he'd walked down on Hazel Uh that said
why Yeah, Well said he left her and was going
to pomone I had a job out there. You drive him, yeah,
to a motel are show it to you if you want,
because he still I don't know what I know. That's
where I left him, sitting out there counting the money.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
What money? He told me? He drew all the dough
out of his in.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Hazel's account said she wasn't gonna get any of it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Must they had about four thousand bucks. You know what
bank he had the money in?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And no he didn't say I didn't know him and
Hazel had that much. Of course she worked pretty hard, drifty.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Jid always said she was stinging a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Uh huh, yeah, had it in this wooden box, all
stacked in that really hard to believe what says about
the box. Cared about the ladiest guy I ever knew,
lasked one to work with his hand. Su're proud of it, though,
Su said he made the box himself.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Larry, JESSEP.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Frank and I drove out to the motel and Promona.
We checked with the manager, but found it the suspect.
We checked out that morning. Fortunately the room had not
been cleaned. Definitely went over on a shelf in the
closet we found the wooden box that Jessup had spoken
of was a duplicate of the one that we seen
at the suspect's home. We told the manager we were
taking it with us and asked her to noto price
and the event Elsworth returning if he had a car.
When they left, asked for the name of sty for
(20:58):
Frank to come back from the suspect's room. There looks
why he pulled the robbery. Huh, yeah, that seems for
the ore. The the check was the automobile rental agencies
in the area. None of them had seen the man
answering the suspects description, and he asked him the call
us if such a man did come in. We'd drove
by Elder's house and picked up a wooden box that
he'd made for his wife's dictograph records. Both of the
containers were taken to the climb lab for comparison. We'drove
(21:19):
to the markets that had been held up. All three
of the victims were shown the false mustache that we
found at the motel. All three said it was identical
with the one that the hold up man had worn.
Investigation when Jone kecked from the same con the nails
views were made for the same machine. The box we
found at the motel was shown to both the butcher
and the canhiers. They said that it was the same
one that the pief had carried. A local and an
(21:40):
APD were put out on the suspect ask him that
he be picked up the suspicion of robbery. For the
next three days, the surveillance on the suspects house was maintained.
Followed Missus Elders's activities were observed. Sunday, August seventeenth, we
got a call with the suspect's wife had left the
house carrying a suit case. The officers on stakeout followed
it to the subway terminal in downtown Los Angeles. We
(22:00):
met the then Missus Elsworth walked down to the landing
and appeared to be waiting. Frank An answered over the surveillance.
We waited nine thirty pm, ten, ten fifteen, ten, eighteen pm.
Yeah yeah, I kid like thirty S fifty.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
One, thirty money one get together? Yeah yeah, he said,
come up, hey, jesus, hey, come on money. Why else
was pulling up? Police offer, got the girls what you're
not gonna get out of here? Let's get it back
to him down to night. He's hurt. Yeah, I'll get
(22:43):
an ambulance.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Hurd kid killing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
No, we sent her an ambulance and one get hurt.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I didn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Why's you call us when you heard from him?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I don't know, I don't know, he said. If I
met him and give me some money so we could
take the bills with you. He's gonna give me some money.
I was gonna call you. I said, I got the money.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's gonna yeah, Sure you will.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Chance to get off from under grave.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
He didn't care.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Away together. I was the one who worried about it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
He never cared.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
He never paid a bill.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Don't worry, He's going to pay this one.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Jared Warren Ellsworth was tried and convicted of robbery in
the first degree and received sentence as prescribed by law.
Robbery and the first degree is punishable by imprisonment from
the state penitentiary for a period of from five years
to life.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
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Police Force in action and starring Jack Webb. A presentation
of the United States Armed Forces Radio Services
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