April 14, 2025 • 25 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Borrow.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Draig Men.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You are a detective sergeant. They're assigned a robbery detail.
A gang of truck hijackers has been working in your city.
They've stolen fourteen loaded trucks. They're kidnapped and beaten one
of the drivers. There's no clue to their identity.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Your job get them.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
It was Wednesday, June fourth. It was warm in Los Angeles.
We were working the day watch out of robbery detail.
My partner's Frank Smith. The boss a TV detective stad Draw.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
My name's Fine. We were on the way aft.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
From the office and it was nine forty seven am
when we got to the County Hospital Ward four nineteen.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hi, mister Gilmore, Yeah, I know you guys. No here,
we're police officers. Just my partner, Frank Smith. My name's Friday.
I just hello. Uh, A couple of stools over there.
Drag him up, sit down, I'll get.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You go else? How do you feel like you go
more or rough? Real or rough?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Feel like I've ridden fifty miles in the back of
already mixed in that truck weren't for the.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Pills he'd be getting in. I think i'd go off
my rocker. You won't tell us what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, as much as I can remember, only goes so far.
Then there's a room full of black.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
If you'll tell us what you can please. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Uh, yesterday, that's when it was, Yes, sir, yesterday morning.
I checked in for work, had a load I was
gonna take over to Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Supposed to shove off about ten ten fifty. Did you
know what you were carrying? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I saw the way though some of the stuff they
were loading it used furniture. Didn't make any difference to me.
They load the truck and I'll drive it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I went across the street the little coffee place over there,
got my back and.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Bottled filled and came back. By that time they had
the truck loaded.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I signed the waybill in the office and went out
and got into the truck.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The two guys were waiting for me. They were in
the camp of the truck. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was sitting there, kind of scrunched down, so you
couldn't even see them in the outside.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah. See, as soon as.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I opened the door, when of them, had a gun
pointed at me, told me to get into the truck
like there was nothing wrong, just to start them over
and get the truck away from it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Did they get out of the truck at that time.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, No, they were waiting for me. When I got there.
They told me to drive away, and I did. I
wasn't gonna mess around with them having a gun.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And then we drove about three blocks and they told
me to pull into an alley just off of Santa Fe.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Santa Fean Point, you remember, uh by Porter Street between
Porter and Enterprise. I see, like to go ahead, and
then they told me to pull into the alley and
when I did.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They made me get out of the truck, took me
around back and broke the seal and told me to
get inside.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's what you did, officer.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
If they had told me to jump off the city
hall at a gun, I hadn't done it, but i'd
gun pointed at me. I'm a coward all the ways
A gun around, and I'm gonna do just like he
tells me.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yes, guys, are I mean you could tell? How's that? Oh,
I'm a kind of a student of phrenology.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I could tell about those fellows, real playing student or
what phrenology?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know? Bumps on the head, Uh, they only mean something.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of course, I didn't get a chance to make a
good examination of these guys, but I could see it
real criminal heads.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Bumps told me so. One fella had a head that
was one of the worst I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, this means to his mother, I could tell had
a bump go right here, you see, Yeah, it means
to his mother.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yes, you well, what happened if they tied you yet?
Just left me there? I see? Boy?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
God, yeah, I muster drove for about twenty minutes and
they stopped, pulling some sort of a driveway.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I figure that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, all right, after they stopped, they made a half
you turn, them backed up, backed up this ramp steeve,
and they stopped and took me out of the truck,
blindfolded me and made me get out of the truck.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
On this place where they stopped. That's where they unloaded
the furniture, did.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They Yeah, I must have taken it out of there.
I heard them something around the truck sounded like they
were unloading it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And now what did they do after they got all
the furniture out? Put me back in, go out to
where you follow the truck. After they they both climbed
into the back beat me up. Don't remember much after that.
Both of 'em worked you over. Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, both of them got down their lips, especially the
one who was mean to his mother.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He was vicious and mean. They kept hitting me with
their fishings. Light just passed up.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Don't remember anything after that til I came through in
the back of the truck, and that's when I called
the cops, and the guy's in the uniform came out.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I guess they're the ones who called you.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, sir, is there any way that you might be
able to tell us where they took you?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You mean when they unloaded the furniture. Yes, sure, Well
I think maybe I got an idea. I tried to
figure out how fast they was driving, and after he
had been a driver for a while, you get to know.
I'd say they was going about twenty miles an hour.
They were still in town. My own guess is that
there were not alimeters. Must have gone out Santa Fe
and then turned on the alimeter. I remember hearing kids
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yelling I'd probably be Santa Fe High School. Yeah, I
guess we went out alimeteror to maybe forty third or
forty fourth and they turned right, kind of hard to
figure it. Then the truck got tied up in traffic,
and it's hard to tell if they were stopping for
that or they're just at a light.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But I'd say that they were out about Avalon. You know,
maybe they went up to Sand Peter.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't think so, I'd say Avalon. Then they turned
left and had a foot off on. I'm not sure
how far they went, but i'd figure maybe around rows
of crans. And then they turned a couple more times
and they stopped and drove up that steep.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Ramp, and you figure they ended up around a rosecrans
and avalons. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's not much help.
So well, it gives us an idea where to start looking. Well,
a couple other things that might help you.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
What's that, Well, it seems that when we started to
back up the ramp, I heard a bump like they
backed into a car.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They didn't hit it hard, but I bet they did
hit a car. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
After that, they pulled the truck for it and stopped
and backed up again. This time they scraped him at
the side of a house. I could see that run
along the side of the truck. It sounded like they
might have torn up some of the wood on the
house or does that help any.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, sir, we'll have our crime when I have checked
the truck and see if they can come up with anything.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Sure, hope you can.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh, y, you talk to my boss yet, No, sir,
but he's been notified.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We understand that he's kind sure about it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well, we wouldn't know about that, but he should understand
that it wasn't your fault.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
He should, but he won't. I know that right. Yeah,
it doesn't me understand anything that doesn't go on his
way spotted a mile off? What sets it? His had
all kinds of bumps.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
About ten o six am, we continued to question the victim,
Russell Gilmore, and gave us descriptions of the two men
who kidnapped him.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He also told us that at one time he heard
one of the men call the other by the name Leo.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Further, he told us that when the two bandits had
taken him from the truck, they placed him in a garage.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He was able to feel the wall, and he.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Said that he was sure it was a plaster wall
and as much as he could feel the studs and
the wire holding the plaster. He said that at one
time he heard a woman come out of a house
and say something to the thieves while they unloaded the truck.
He told us that the garage wasn't very large because
there was no echo on the sounds that were made
in the building. We called the office and got out
of a supplementary broadcast on the thieves carrying their description.
Ten forty am, Frank and I left the Cotti Hospital
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and drove over to Central Station. We went up the
crime lab and talked to right.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Pinker on the right rear fender. We found evidence in
the truck is hit, a car lifted. Some paint chips
got out. Here looks like a blue car. Huh yeah.
We checked the paint with the district production color book. Here,
I'll show you got all the paints catalog by color.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Uh huh. Here this is the one. Yeah, it was Reradi.
There are a lot of blues there. How can you
be sure this is it? Or? Here you see they
got a color patch on each page in the book.
The hole in the patch all this little hole here? Uh?
Or he just put this chip with lifted from the
truck in the hole and I let it down.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Get this lamp there, color matches, get in the same
light and you can see that the same paint.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Huh is that Joe same? Yeah? I see. But what
we got out of it? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Car the truck hit was a nineteen fifty three Hudson Jet.
It was a single tone car. You know, the top
color matches the body color. Yeah, they only use this
on one color cars unless you got a special order.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Do you find any house paint on the side of
the truck? Yeah? Over here might be able to do
a little better on that for you. Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
House the truck ran, who's about thirty six years old,
might be a little more than that, but it's right
around there. How could you come up with that been
painted eighteen times? Figure once every two years? You come
out with thirty six Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
How we know it's been painted every two years?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We don't try just guessing, but the layers of painted
pretty even might indicate they did it regularly.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You know. I didn't let the paint go too far
before they redid it. Oh yeah, here are the chips
of the house paint.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Here I put when I'm under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And take a look to him. Okay, you see, Okay,
I haven't dinner. I'm like jestic. Yeah, I see what
you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know it's the first coat was a cream white,
and they stuck pretty much of that. So the next
half dozen paint jabs and they changed to a barn
red and to a green, then back to cream white, and.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
That goes on for three layers and the end of
the blue that's on it now. Yeah, hooray if we
find the house, can you tell.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Us if it's the same one? Shouldn't be too hard.
Aren't many of 'em around?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well? How many? Well, eighteen coats would be eighteen factorial.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's multiplying eighteen times seventeen times sixteen times fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So on the times one I gotta worked out for you.
I hope you have here with you at all?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Here, Well, look works out uh one and six squadrillion,
four hundred and two trillion, three hundred and seventy three billion,
seven hundred and five million.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Seven hundred and twenty eight thousand chances of finding its
twin Uh, it's pretty long odds. Well, if every man, woman,
and child on the.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Face of the earth owned ten houses a piece, there
wouldn't be another one like it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Eleven thirty seven am, we put in a call to
Layton Prince Carlin Stahl told us that his crew had
gone over the truck thoroughly but had failed to come
up with anything. We contacted the Stat's office and asked
them to make a run on the m.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That the thieves had used.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
They told us that the results would be ready for
us late in the afternoon. We contacted Hit and Run Detail,
but there'd been no reports that could have been the
car that the truck had hit. We went to the
office and got a large map of the city, and
then we drove out to the County hospital.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
To talk to the victim again.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We asked him to trace his movements while I had
been held prisoner in the back of the truck. He
drew a line down Santa Fe Avenue up to Alam
then over to Avalon Boulevard.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
On forty third Street.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
From there, he traced the streets down to Rosecrans Avenue.
He drew a circle on the map centered on the
intersection of Rosecrans Avenue and Avalon Boulevard. He told us
that we'd find the house we were looking for inside
the circle.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Before we left him, we made arrangements for.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
The mugshots to be taken to the hospital for him
to check for a possible identification of the suspects. Twelve
forty PM, we contacted Records and Identification Division and asked
them if they had any luck on running the name Leald.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We were told that they had three possibles for us.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
The addresses on the packages were not in the area
that had been circled by the victim, Russell Gilmore. We
got in touch with Lieutenant Jack Smiers and filled him
in on the developments. He called Metro Division and made
arrangements for three additional teams of men to work with
us in a search of the streets within the circle
drawn by the victim. He also contacted the divisional commanders
and asked for their cooperation. The men were instructed to
find a residence with a steep driveway leading to a
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detached garage.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
The house would have a wooden porch on the right
side of the house, as that faced the street. It
would be damaged to the wood on the porch.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Also, there was a possibility that a Hudson automobile would
be parked either in the driveway or on the street
right next to it. The car would have some damage
done to it. Five point fifteen pm. Frank and I
got back to the office from the search area.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'm sure tired. I'm with you. A lot of streets
out there, a lot of houses on the streets. But
now the guy's Metro or doing.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't know if I got a robbery fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yep, just a minute, let me get there. Yeah, okay,
hang on to it. We'll be right out right. All
the Metro boys did some good huh the house they
found it.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
The address given us on the phone was fourteen eighty
six Seedars Street, down on Comptant.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It took us thirty.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Five minutes to get out there from the city hall.
The officers from Metro Division Reserve stood by until we
got there. We found the house located on Cedar between
Dwight Street and to wat i Anue. It was a
one story frame building with a stucco garage in the
rear of the lot. On the left front side of
the house was a wooden porch which had been straight by.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Some large object. Several of the pickets in the railing
were broken. On the street in.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Front of the house next door, we found a nineteen
fifty three Hudson Jet painted the light blue.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
There was a dent on the left rear fence. We
couldn't tell for certain, but the color of the car.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And the color of the paint on the porch seemed
to match the chips that we've seen in the crime laft.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
While the officers from Metro covered the rear of the building,
Frank and I rang the front doorbell. There was no answer.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We checked the garage, but we found nothing that would
tie the house owners in with the robbery kidnapping. The
interior walls of the garage were rough wooden studs. Between
them we could see chicken wire embedded in plastered. The
physical description of the house, the ramp leading to the garage,
the garage itself, and the car parked on the street
matched in every detail.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The picture that we've been given by the victim.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Six' ten pm we got the Name Conrad lewis from
the mailbox in front of the, house and while the
officers From metro checked with our, Office frank AND i
went next door to talk with the.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Neighbors, yeah what if we could talk to you?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Sure who are? You? Well it might be better if
we got him off the.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Port you ain't coming in here UNLESS i know who
and what you.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Are the police. Officers oh, Yes, ram here's our. Identification oh,
Yeah i'll come on. In thank you. Man I'm Murder.
Richards it's my. Partner sorry On, Friday I'm Frank. Smith
how do you? Do are? You? Man you just sit,
Down i'll turn off the. Television thank. You COMEDY i
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see before a couple of.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Times you always laugh at him again though it's. Funny,
yes it's a great boons of the people.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Television this was only twelve, inch BUT i think maybe
next Year i'll get a bigger, one maybe even.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Color they got it, now you know it's true. Color it's. Beautiful, yes.
Man of COURSE i ain't actually seeing it. MYSELF i
just read about, it you, know. Beautiful, Oh i'm a great.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
FAN i got it on all, day right from.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
The early show to the late late.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
SHOW i understand next week one of them station's gonna
start early early show and then that'll be nice on.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It, yes, ma'am, SURE i wonder if we could ask
you a few. Questions my, certainly you just go right.
Ahead the car fronts up along to.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You the, Bloone, yes. Ma'am, yeah that's MY i just
got it a few months. Ago that's what you hear.
About huh's bigger person about how somebody hit my?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Car big. Damp isn't that what you're here?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
For?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No not. Exactly do you know who hit your? Car?
NO i WISH i. Did IF i, Knew i'd see.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Him imagine hitting the car at, this parked right at the,
curb not leaving a note or something to.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Say who did? It person run in to me must
be in sure it wouldn't cost him. Nothing all he
had to do is leave a? Card? Yes when was
the automobile hit? Ket yesterday?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
MORNING i walked down in the market to do some
shopping and get some things for dinner, pretzels potato, chests
things to eat WHILE i watched THE.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Tv WHEN i got, back the dent was? There did
it WHILE i was?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Gone did?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It and didn't even leave a?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Card, yes. Ma'am could you tell us who lives next?
Door do you?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Please which side the left side over? There, well That's lewis's.
House why you ask him about?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Them how long have they lived? There do you?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Know?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
YAH i guess in about ten? Years they moved in
right After. Conrad that's Mister, lewis right after he opened
up a new. STORE a lot of business is in,
well got some kind of a shipping, business has deals
with different stories all over the.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
State did you see, him as To lewis, Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes matter of, FACT i did he come over like
usual at five.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Thirty he usually come over at that, time Doesn't.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Tuesday thirty And? Saturday.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah you, see there's A tv show he likes to.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
SEE i watch, it but his wife don't care for.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It she watches something. Else so comrade comes over. Here
he was here last. Night you see him during the
day at? All, NO i didn't you know where they?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Are i'm not, sure BUT i think they went to the.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Movie it seems to. Me Missus lewis says that her
And conrad was going to a show over in. Town
that's probably for. Us i'll get.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
'em i'm, mad and so isn't anybody come came on
me this?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Time? That oh It's, Henderson. Joe i'll be right back.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Right have you noticed any trucks in the neighborhood, Lately Missus, Richards.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Oh, Well i'll have to think about that for a.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Minute you don't mean like the, guard but you can truck.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Be no man large movie fans see the others quite a. Bit,
yeah well let me.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
See well there was some people who just moved into
a new house down the street that was about a month.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Ago that in. Help oh thank, you miss Mister joe
see many, yeah excuse me please Missus, Richards yeah you right, Ahead,
Yeah henderson rand the Name Conrad lewis to the files
and he's been convicted for im.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Roberty the record showed That Conrad lewis had been arrested
for suspicion of armed robbery ten years. Before he'd been
brought to, trial convicted and sent to Sam. Quentin he'd
served six, years and then he'd been. Released he was
not on parole at the. Time frank AND i parked
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our car down the street From lewis's.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
House when we waited for him to return at ten fifty.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Seven, pm we saw a dark Colored Lincoln sedan turn
onto the street and swing into the driveway of A lewis.
RESIDENCE a man and a woman got out of the
car and entered the. House frank AND i waited a few,
minutes and then we walked up the front door and
rang the.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Bell yeah You Conrad, Lewis, yeah that's. Right who are?
You police officers like taught to? You? Sure, come? Honey
what's this all? About something? Wrong do you own a?
Truck a? Truck do you own? One? No you mind
telling me what this is all? About can you account
a free times Since monday? Night why ken? You? LOOK
(17:48):
i don't know what this is all, about And i'm
not gonna tell you a thing until you let me
know what you. Want, now what do you?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Want the answers to those two questions. Twelve it had
been only a little over forty eight hours Since Russell
gilmour had been kidnapped and, beaten and we had.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
A suspect in.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Custody, However lewis refused to admit any complicity in the.
Crime we talked to him for several, hours but he
told us. Nothing he admitted that he'd been arrested before
and that he'd served time in Sam. Quentin, however he
stuck to his statement that since his release he had
done his best to live with the. Law with the
evidence at, hand he was booked at The Main jail
on a charge of suspicion a violation Of section two ELEVEN.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Pc we obtained the keys to.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
His place of business And frank AND i went out to.
Check it was a large wholesale store selling used. FURNITURE
a search of the premises failed to turn up any
of the stolen. Merchandise While frank went through the stock,
ROOMS i checked the business.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Ledgers has him back there, Either, joe how'd you do?
Well according to These lewis does a big shipping. Business
that's what the woman next door to.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Us he's been making shipments up To. Oakland regular books
tell what they. Were, yeah right, here he's.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Been sending large lots of used stuff to a place
On MacArthur.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Boulevard there's a whole list of it, here, cables living room,
SETS tv said that are get in touch with the
police up there and have.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Him checked his place. Out.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Huh you, know without that stolen, property we're not gonna
have a very good case against. Him you got the
address of the place up. Right, Yeah let's go back
to the office and get a call in a right.
Sure hope they come up with the, answers and if.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
They, don't we might be in. Trouble.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah the DA's office is level to throw the whole thing.
Out Thursday june, fifth eight twenty a. M we put
in a call To captain Of Inspectors Tony bulger In
oakland and asked him to check on the recipient of
the furniture ship and From. Lewis we also gave him
as detailed a description of the stolen merchandise as we
were able to. Obtain in the, Meantime lewis had been
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admitted to bail and was. Released thursday, eleven fifteen, Pm
frank AND i got back to the office from checking
a lead on one of the suspects who'd driven the.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
TRUCK i got it.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Robbery, Friday, yeah, yes it is, Alright Tony boulger From.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
OAKLAND i just hope we called. It, yeah Got? Tony?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah well what he, Say well that's the WAY i
look from. Here what, yeah, Right, okay thank. You how
about when you talk to the man who bought this,
stuff he's. Clean how about the merchandise.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Itself it's all.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Stolen eleven twenty pm we got in touch With Lieutenant
smires and filled him in on the new. Developments after
we talked to, him we contacted Officers Max herman And
Ed benson and made arrangements to Meet sam at the
house On Cedar.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Street it took us less than.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Half an hour to get out to. Company the other
officers were there by the time we. Arrived while they
covered the back, Door frank AND i went up to the.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
FRONT i think he knows the. TRUST i don't. Know
try it.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Again the cars in the, driveway we know he's in there.
Planning sounds like somebody's coming.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Out, yeah what are you doing out? Here aren't you
guys ever gonna get? Out we got in and. TALK
i got a. Choice well you. Haven't let come on.
Here you wanna go through the, house it won't be. Necessary,
Yeah i'm glad of. That what's it about this? Time famous?
Before maybe you better spell it for. Me we can
go that. Route if that's the way you want, it go.
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AHEAD i like Fairy, tale all.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Right we got a report from the victor who was robbing.
Kidnap he was able to give us a description of this,
house of your, garrizon of the whole.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Setup you've been on a spike, again you see.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Him we took a sample of the paint from your front.
Porch it matches paint found on a truck that was
hijacked by the houses In La i've painted like this.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
One you think you're gonna send me to the joint
where the batch of paint's gonna. Help, look cop you
Know i've been the. Rounds i've seen enough trouble to
know it's rough to get a conviction with. Circumstance you'll
have it and s it's all you've gotten with, me nothing. More,
now why don't you go home And i'll just forget
you were here. Tonight we got the, plant all, Right
we got the. Plant they moved in on. It the
man you sold was stolen front of Tooos Williams. Test
you know we got your cold and why not cop?
Out that's the way it. Hangs so that's the, way all.
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Right i'll get my coke and go point it. Out
we'll get it for you in the. Clots never, mind
he ain't gonna pa out. Outside he's in his. Car,
yeah he's sitting down Towards Rose. Grandst hit the sign,
(22:07):
right he's turning on The rose trans take him. LEFT
i got him see. Him wait a, Minute, Yeah i've
head there right, Shack But i'm not so many? People
(22:28):
can't you closing on why you were pulling up making a. Turn,
yeah stay with. Him hang on that, End, frank he's in, Trouble,
joe come, on, well let's get him out of. There,
(22:52):
yeah that's. Course wat him out your. Hands can you get?
Him got a car an motors and slap it looks like.
It can you help me? Here all? Right let's put
him guard. Here, YEAH i take it, Easy. Lewis i'll
call the ambulance. Guy take it, Easy. Lewis we sent
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for a. DOCTOR i didn't see the. SUN i didn't
the streak can go, through it allows, break allows you.
Break i'd have made. It IF i take off the.
Street it never got. Me If i'd say off the,
STREET i just turned the car and all of a
SUDDEN i was on a dead. End said you're wrong, there. Mystery,
(23:34):
hum you've been there a long.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Time Conrad Austin lewis and his confederates were apprehended and
brought the trial on eleven counts of grand theft daughto
and one count of. Kidnapping they were found guilty and.
Sentenced as prescribed by. Law grand theft daughto is punishable
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by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for it period of
not less than one nor more than ten. Years kidnapping
is punishable by imprisonment for a term of from one
to twenty five years in the state. Penitentiary dragnet is
a presentation of The United States Armed Forces Radio service
Speaker 3 (25:08):
STOP smo
Borrow.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Draig Men.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
You are a detective sergeant. They're assigned a robbery detail.
A gang of truck hijackers has been working in your city.
They've stolen fourteen loaded trucks. They're kidnapped and beaten one
of the drivers. There's no clue to their identity.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Your job get them.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
It was Wednesday, June fourth. It was warm in Los Angeles.
We were working the day watch out of robbery detail.
My partner's Frank Smith. The boss a TV detective stad Draw.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
My name's Fine. We were on the way aft.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
From the office and it was nine forty seven am
when we got to the County Hospital Ward four nineteen.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hi, mister Gilmore, Yeah, I know you guys. No here,
we're police officers. Just my partner, Frank Smith. My name's Friday.
I just hello. Uh, A couple of stools over there.
Drag him up, sit down, I'll get.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You go else? How do you feel like you go
more or rough? Real or rough?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Feel like I've ridden fifty miles in the back of
already mixed in that truck weren't for the.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Pills he'd be getting in. I think i'd go off
my rocker. You won't tell us what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, as much as I can remember, only goes so far.
Then there's a room full of black.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
If you'll tell us what you can please. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Uh, yesterday, that's when it was, Yes, sir, yesterday morning.
I checked in for work, had a load I was
gonna take over to Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Supposed to shove off about ten ten fifty. Did you
know what you were carrying? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I saw the way though some of the stuff they
were loading it used furniture. Didn't make any difference to me.
They load the truck and I'll drive it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I went across the street the little coffee place over there,
got my back and.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Bottled filled and came back. By that time they had
the truck loaded.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I signed the waybill in the office and went out
and got into the truck.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The two guys were waiting for me. They were in
the camp of the truck. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was sitting there, kind of scrunched down, so you
couldn't even see them in the outside.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah. See, as soon as.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I opened the door, when of them, had a gun
pointed at me, told me to get into the truck
like there was nothing wrong, just to start them over
and get the truck away from it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Did they get out of the truck at that time.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, No, they were waiting for me. When I got there.
They told me to drive away, and I did. I
wasn't gonna mess around with them having a gun.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And then we drove about three blocks and they told
me to pull into an alley just off of Santa Fe.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Santa Fean Point, you remember, uh by Porter Street between
Porter and Enterprise. I see, like to go ahead, and
then they told me to pull into the alley and
when I did.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They made me get out of the truck, took me
around back and broke the seal and told me to
get inside.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's what you did, officer.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
If they had told me to jump off the city
hall at a gun, I hadn't done it, but i'd
gun pointed at me. I'm a coward all the ways
A gun around, and I'm gonna do just like he
tells me.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yes, guys, are I mean you could tell? How's that? Oh,
I'm a kind of a student of phrenology.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I could tell about those fellows, real playing student or
what phrenology?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You know? Bumps on the head, Uh, they only mean something.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of course, I didn't get a chance to make a
good examination of these guys, but I could see it
real criminal heads.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Bumps told me so. One fella had a head that
was one of the worst I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, this means to his mother, I could tell had
a bump go right here, you see, Yeah, it means
to his mother.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yes, you well, what happened if they tied you yet?
Just left me there? I see? Boy?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
God, yeah, I muster drove for about twenty minutes and
they stopped, pulling some sort of a driveway.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I figure that.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well, all right, after they stopped, they made a half
you turn, them backed up, backed up this ramp steeve,
and they stopped and took me out of the truck,
blindfolded me and made me get out of the truck.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
On this place where they stopped. That's where they unloaded
the furniture, did.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They Yeah, I must have taken it out of there.
I heard them something around the truck sounded like they
were unloading it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And now what did they do after they got all
the furniture out? Put me back in, go out to
where you follow the truck. After they they both climbed
into the back beat me up. Don't remember much after that.
Both of 'em worked you over. Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, both of them got down their lips, especially the
one who was mean to his mother.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He was vicious and mean. They kept hitting me with
their fishings. Light just passed up.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Don't remember anything after that til I came through in
the back of the truck, and that's when I called
the cops, and the guy's in the uniform came out.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I guess they're the ones who called you.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, sir, is there any way that you might be
able to tell us where they took you?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You mean when they unloaded the furniture. Yes, sure, Well
I think maybe I got an idea. I tried to
figure out how fast they was driving, and after he
had been a driver for a while, you get to know.
I'd say they was going about twenty miles an hour.
They were still in town. My own guess is that
there were not alimeters. Must have gone out Santa Fe
and then turned on the alimeter. I remember hearing kids
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yelling I'd probably be Santa Fe High School. Yeah, I
guess we went out alimeteror to maybe forty third or
forty fourth and they turned right, kind of hard to
figure it. Then the truck got tied up in traffic,
and it's hard to tell if they were stopping for
that or they're just at a light.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But I'd say that they were out about Avalon. You know,
maybe they went up to Sand Peter.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't think so, I'd say Avalon. Then they turned
left and had a foot off on. I'm not sure
how far they went, but i'd figure maybe around rows
of crans. And then they turned a couple more times
and they stopped and drove up that steep.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Ramp, and you figure they ended up around a rosecrans
and avalons. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's not much help.
So well, it gives us an idea where to start looking. Well,
a couple other things that might help you.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
What's that, Well, it seems that when we started to
back up the ramp, I heard a bump like they
backed into a car.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They didn't hit it hard, but I bet they did
hit a car. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
After that, they pulled the truck for it and stopped
and backed up again. This time they scraped him at
the side of a house. I could see that run
along the side of the truck. It sounded like they
might have torn up some of the wood on the
house or does that help any.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, sir, we'll have our crime when I have checked
the truck and see if they can come up with anything.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Sure, hope you can.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh, y, you talk to my boss yet, No, sir,
but he's been notified.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We understand that he's kind sure about it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well, we wouldn't know about that, but he should understand
that it wasn't your fault.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
He should, but he won't. I know that right. Yeah,
it doesn't me understand anything that doesn't go on his
way spotted a mile off? What sets it? His had
all kinds of bumps.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
About ten o six am, we continued to question the victim,
Russell Gilmore, and gave us descriptions of the two men
who kidnapped him.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
He also told us that at one time he heard
one of the men call the other by the name Leo.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Further, he told us that when the two bandits had
taken him from the truck, they placed him in a garage.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He was able to feel the wall, and he.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Said that he was sure it was a plaster wall
and as much as he could feel the studs and
the wire holding the plaster. He said that at one
time he heard a woman come out of a house
and say something to the thieves while they unloaded the truck.
He told us that the garage wasn't very large because
there was no echo on the sounds that were made
in the building. We called the office and got out
of a supplementary broadcast on the thieves carrying their description.
Ten forty am, Frank and I left the Cotti Hospital
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and drove over to Central Station. We went up the
crime lab and talked to right.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Pinker on the right rear fender. We found evidence in
the truck is hit, a car lifted. Some paint chips
got out. Here looks like a blue car. Huh yeah.
We checked the paint with the district production color book. Here,
I'll show you got all the paints catalog by color.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Uh huh. Here this is the one. Yeah, it was Reradi.
There are a lot of blues there. How can you
be sure this is it? Or? Here you see they
got a color patch on each page in the book.
The hole in the patch all this little hole here? Uh?
Or he just put this chip with lifted from the
truck in the hole and I let it down.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Get this lamp there, color matches, get in the same
light and you can see that the same paint.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Huh is that Joe same? Yeah? I see. But what
we got out of it? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Car the truck hit was a nineteen fifty three Hudson Jet.
It was a single tone car. You know, the top
color matches the body color. Yeah, they only use this
on one color cars unless you got a special order.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Do you find any house paint on the side of
the truck? Yeah? Over here might be able to do
a little better on that for you. Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
House the truck ran, who's about thirty six years old,
might be a little more than that, but it's right
around there. How could you come up with that been
painted eighteen times? Figure once every two years? You come
out with thirty six Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
How we know it's been painted every two years?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We don't try just guessing, but the layers of painted
pretty even might indicate they did it regularly.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You know. I didn't let the paint go too far
before they redid it. Oh yeah, here are the chips
of the house paint.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Here I put when I'm under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And take a look to him. Okay, you see, Okay,
I haven't dinner. I'm like jestic. Yeah, I see what
you mean.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know it's the first coat was a cream white,
and they stuck pretty much of that. So the next
half dozen paint jabs and they changed to a barn
red and to a green, then back to cream white, and.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
That goes on for three layers and the end of
the blue that's on it now. Yeah, hooray if we
find the house, can you tell.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Us if it's the same one? Shouldn't be too hard.
Aren't many of 'em around?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well? How many? Well, eighteen coats would be eighteen factorial.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That's multiplying eighteen times seventeen times sixteen times fifteen.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So on the times one I gotta worked out for you.
I hope you have here with you at all?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Here, Well, look works out uh one and six squadrillion,
four hundred and two trillion, three hundred and seventy three billion,
seven hundred and five million.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Seven hundred and twenty eight thousand chances of finding its
twin Uh, it's pretty long odds. Well, if every man, woman,
and child on the.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Face of the earth owned ten houses a piece, there
wouldn't be another one like it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Eleven thirty seven am, we put in a call to
Layton Prince Carlin Stahl told us that his crew had
gone over the truck thoroughly but had failed to come
up with anything. We contacted the Stat's office and asked
them to make a run on the m.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That the thieves had used.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
They told us that the results would be ready for
us late in the afternoon. We contacted Hit and Run Detail,
but there'd been no reports that could have been the
car that the truck had hit. We went to the
office and got a large map of the city, and
then we drove out to the County hospital.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
To talk to the victim again.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We asked him to trace his movements while I had
been held prisoner in the back of the truck. He
drew a line down Santa Fe Avenue up to Alam
then over to Avalon Boulevard.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
On forty third Street.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
From there, he traced the streets down to Rosecrans Avenue.
He drew a circle on the map centered on the
intersection of Rosecrans Avenue and Avalon Boulevard. He told us
that we'd find the house we were looking for inside
the circle.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Before we left him, we made arrangements for.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
The mugshots to be taken to the hospital for him
to check for a possible identification of the suspects. Twelve
forty PM, we contacted Records and Identification Division and asked
them if they had any luck on running the name Leald.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We were told that they had three possibles for us.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
The addresses on the packages were not in the area
that had been circled by the victim, Russell Gilmore. We
got in touch with Lieutenant Jack Smiers and filled him
in on the developments. He called Metro Division and made
arrangements for three additional teams of men to work with
us in a search of the streets within the circle
drawn by the victim. He also contacted the divisional commanders
and asked for their cooperation. The men were instructed to
find a residence with a steep driveway leading to a
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detached garage.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
The house would have a wooden porch on the right
side of the house, as that faced the street. It
would be damaged to the wood on the porch.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Also, there was a possibility that a Hudson automobile would
be parked either in the driveway or on the street
right next to it. The car would have some damage
done to it. Five point fifteen pm. Frank and I
got back to the office from the search area.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'm sure tired. I'm with you. A lot of streets
out there, a lot of houses on the streets. But
now the guy's Metro or doing.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I don't know if I got a robbery fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yep, just a minute, let me get there. Yeah, okay,
hang on to it. We'll be right out right. All
the Metro boys did some good huh the house they
found it.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
The address given us on the phone was fourteen eighty
six Seedars Street, down on Comptant.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
It took us thirty.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Five minutes to get out there from the city hall.
The officers from Metro Division Reserve stood by until we
got there. We found the house located on Cedar between
Dwight Street and to wat i Anue. It was a
one story frame building with a stucco garage in the
rear of the lot. On the left front side of
the house was a wooden porch which had been straight by.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Some large object. Several of the pickets in the railing
were broken. On the street in.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Front of the house next door, we found a nineteen
fifty three Hudson Jet painted the light blue.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
There was a dent on the left rear fence. We
couldn't tell for certain, but the color of the car.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And the color of the paint on the porch seemed
to match the chips that we've seen in the crime laft.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
While the officers from Metro covered the rear of the building,
Frank and I rang the front doorbell. There was no answer.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We checked the garage, but we found nothing that would
tie the house owners in with the robbery kidnapping. The
interior walls of the garage were rough wooden studs. Between
them we could see chicken wire embedded in plastered. The
physical description of the house, the ramp leading to the garage,
the garage itself, and the car parked on the street
matched in every detail.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The picture that we've been given by the victim.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Six' ten pm we got the Name Conrad lewis from
the mailbox in front of the, house and while the
officers From metro checked with our, Office frank AND i
went next door to talk with the.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Neighbors, yeah what if we could talk to you?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Sure who are? You? Well it might be better if
we got him off the.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Port you ain't coming in here UNLESS i know who
and what you.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Are the police. Officers oh, Yes, ram here's our. Identification oh,
Yeah i'll come on. In thank you. Man I'm Murder.
Richards it's my. Partner sorry On, Friday I'm Frank. Smith
how do you? Do are? You? Man you just sit,
Down i'll turn off the. Television thank. You COMEDY i
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see before a couple of.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Times you always laugh at him again though it's. Funny,
yes it's a great boons of the people.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Television this was only twelve, inch BUT i think maybe
next Year i'll get a bigger, one maybe even.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Color they got it, now you know it's true. Color it's. Beautiful, yes.
Man of COURSE i ain't actually seeing it. MYSELF i
just read about, it you, know. Beautiful, Oh i'm a great.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
FAN i got it on all, day right from.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
The early show to the late late.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
SHOW i understand next week one of them station's gonna
start early early show and then that'll be nice on.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It, yes, ma'am, SURE i wonder if we could ask
you a few. Questions my, certainly you just go right.
Ahead the car fronts up along to.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You the, Bloone, yes. Ma'am, yeah that's MY i just
got it a few months. Ago that's what you hear.
About huh's bigger person about how somebody hit my?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Car big. Damp isn't that what you're here?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
For?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
No not. Exactly do you know who hit your? Car?
NO i WISH i. Did IF i, Knew i'd see.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Him imagine hitting the car at, this parked right at the,
curb not leaving a note or something to.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Say who did? It person run in to me must
be in sure it wouldn't cost him. Nothing all he
had to do is leave a? Card? Yes when was
the automobile hit? Ket yesterday?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
MORNING i walked down in the market to do some
shopping and get some things for dinner, pretzels potato, chests
things to eat WHILE i watched THE.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Tv WHEN i got, back the dent was? There did
it WHILE i was?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Gone did?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It and didn't even leave a?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Card, yes. Ma'am could you tell us who lives next?
Door do you?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Please which side the left side over? There, well That's lewis's.
House why you ask him about?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Them how long have they lived? There do you?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Know?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
YAH i guess in about ten? Years they moved in
right After. Conrad that's Mister, lewis right after he opened
up a new. STORE a lot of business is in,
well got some kind of a shipping, business has deals
with different stories all over the.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
State did you see, him as To lewis, Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yes matter of, FACT i did he come over like
usual at five.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Thirty he usually come over at that, time Doesn't.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Tuesday thirty And? Saturday.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah you, see there's A tv show he likes to.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
SEE i watch, it but his wife don't care for.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It she watches something. Else so comrade comes over. Here
he was here last. Night you see him during the
day at? All, NO i didn't you know where they?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Are i'm not, sure BUT i think they went to the.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Movie it seems to. Me Missus lewis says that her
And conrad was going to a show over in. Town
that's probably for. Us i'll get.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
'em i'm, mad and so isn't anybody come came on
me this?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Time? That oh It's, Henderson. Joe i'll be right back.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Right have you noticed any trucks in the neighborhood, Lately Missus, Richards.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Oh, Well i'll have to think about that for a.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Minute you don't mean like the, guard but you can truck.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Be no man large movie fans see the others quite a. Bit,
yeah well let me.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
See well there was some people who just moved into
a new house down the street that was about a month.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Ago that in. Help oh thank, you miss Mister joe
see many, yeah excuse me please Missus, Richards yeah you right, Ahead,
Yeah henderson rand the Name Conrad lewis to the files
and he's been convicted for im.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Roberty the record showed That Conrad lewis had been arrested
for suspicion of armed robbery ten years. Before he'd been
brought to, trial convicted and sent to Sam. Quentin he'd
served six, years and then he'd been. Released he was
not on parole at the. Time frank AND i parked
(17:12):
our car down the street From lewis's.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
House when we waited for him to return at ten fifty.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Seven, pm we saw a dark Colored Lincoln sedan turn
onto the street and swing into the driveway of A lewis.
RESIDENCE a man and a woman got out of the
car and entered the. House frank AND i waited a few,
minutes and then we walked up the front door and
rang the.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Bell yeah You Conrad, Lewis, yeah that's. Right who are?
You police officers like taught to? You? Sure, come? Honey
what's this all? About something? Wrong do you own a?
Truck a? Truck do you own? One? No you mind
telling me what this is all? About can you account
a free times Since monday? Night why ken? You? LOOK
(17:48):
i don't know what this is all, about And i'm
not gonna tell you a thing until you let me
know what you. Want, now what do you?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Want the answers to those two questions. Twelve it had
been only a little over forty eight hours Since Russell
gilmour had been kidnapped and, beaten and we had.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
A suspect in.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Custody, However lewis refused to admit any complicity in the.
Crime we talked to him for several, hours but he
told us. Nothing he admitted that he'd been arrested before
and that he'd served time in Sam. Quentin, however he
stuck to his statement that since his release he had
done his best to live with the. Law with the
evidence at, hand he was booked at The Main jail
on a charge of suspicion a violation Of section two ELEVEN.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Pc we obtained the keys to.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
His place of business And frank AND i went out to.
Check it was a large wholesale store selling used. FURNITURE
a search of the premises failed to turn up any
of the stolen. Merchandise While frank went through the stock,
ROOMS i checked the business.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Ledgers has him back there, Either, joe how'd you do?
Well according to These lewis does a big shipping. Business
that's what the woman next door to.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Us he's been making shipments up To. Oakland regular books
tell what they. Were, yeah right, here he's.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Been sending large lots of used stuff to a place
On MacArthur.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Boulevard there's a whole list of it, here, cables living room,
SETS tv said that are get in touch with the
police up there and have.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Him checked his place. Out.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Huh you, know without that stolen, property we're not gonna
have a very good case against. Him you got the
address of the place up. Right, Yeah let's go back
to the office and get a call in a right.
Sure hope they come up with the, answers and if.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
They, don't we might be in. Trouble.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah the DA's office is level to throw the whole thing.
Out Thursday june, fifth eight twenty a. M we put
in a call To captain Of Inspectors Tony bulger In
oakland and asked him to check on the recipient of
the furniture ship and From. Lewis we also gave him
as detailed a description of the stolen merchandise as we
were able to. Obtain in the, Meantime lewis had been
(19:35):
admitted to bail and was. Released thursday, eleven fifteen, Pm
frank AND i got back to the office from checking
a lead on one of the suspects who'd driven the.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
TRUCK i got it.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Robbery, Friday, yeah, yes it is, Alright Tony boulger From.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
OAKLAND i just hope we called. It, yeah Got? Tony?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah well what he, Say well that's the WAY i
look from. Here what, yeah, Right, okay thank. You how
about when you talk to the man who bought this,
stuff he's. Clean how about the merchandise.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Itself it's all.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Stolen eleven twenty pm we got in touch With Lieutenant
smires and filled him in on the new. Developments after
we talked to, him we contacted Officers Max herman And
Ed benson and made arrangements to Meet sam at the
house On Cedar.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Street it took us less than.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Half an hour to get out to. Company the other
officers were there by the time we. Arrived while they
covered the back, Door frank AND i went up to the.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
FRONT i think he knows the. TRUST i don't. Know
try it.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Again the cars in the, driveway we know he's in there.
Planning sounds like somebody's coming.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Out, yeah what are you doing out? Here aren't you
guys ever gonna get? Out we got in and. TALK
i got a. Choice well you. Haven't let come on.
Here you wanna go through the, house it won't be. Necessary,
Yeah i'm glad of. That what's it about this? Time famous?
Before maybe you better spell it for. Me we can
go that. Route if that's the way you want, it go.
(21:07):
AHEAD i like Fairy, tale all.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Right we got a report from the victor who was robbing.
Kidnap he was able to give us a description of this,
house of your, garrizon of the whole.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Setup you've been on a spike, again you see.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Him we took a sample of the paint from your front.
Porch it matches paint found on a truck that was
hijacked by the houses In La i've painted like this.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
One you think you're gonna send me to the joint
where the batch of paint's gonna. Help, look cop you
Know i've been the. Rounds i've seen enough trouble to
know it's rough to get a conviction with. Circumstance you'll
have it and s it's all you've gotten with, me nothing. More,
now why don't you go home And i'll just forget
you were here. Tonight we got the, plant all, Right
we got the. Plant they moved in on. It the
man you sold was stolen front of Tooos Williams. Test
you know we got your cold and why not cop?
Out that's the way it. Hangs so that's the, way all.
(21:44):
Right i'll get my coke and go point it. Out
we'll get it for you in the. Clots never, mind
he ain't gonna pa out. Outside he's in his. Car,
yeah he's sitting down Towards Rose. Grandst hit the sign,
(22:07):
right he's turning on The rose trans take him. LEFT
i got him see. Him wait a, Minute, Yeah i've
head there right, Shack But i'm not so many? People
(22:28):
can't you closing on why you were pulling up making a. Turn,
yeah stay with. Him hang on that, End, frank he's in, Trouble,
joe come, on, well let's get him out of. There,
(22:52):
yeah that's. Course wat him out your. Hands can you get?
Him got a car an motors and slap it looks like.
It can you help me? Here all? Right let's put
him guard. Here, YEAH i take it, Easy. Lewis i'll
call the ambulance. Guy take it, Easy. Lewis we sent
(23:13):
for a. DOCTOR i didn't see the. SUN i didn't
the streak can go, through it allows, break allows you.
Break i'd have made. It IF i take off the.
Street it never got. Me If i'd say off the,
STREET i just turned the car and all of a
SUDDEN i was on a dead. End said you're wrong, there. Mystery,
(23:34):
hum you've been there a long.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Time Conrad Austin lewis and his confederates were apprehended and
brought the trial on eleven counts of grand theft daughto
and one count of. Kidnapping they were found guilty and.
Sentenced as prescribed by. Law grand theft daughto is punishable
(23:57):
by imprisonment in the state penitentiary for it period of
not less than one nor more than ten. Years kidnapping
is punishable by imprisonment for a term of from one
to twenty five years in the state. Penitentiary dragnet is
a presentation of The United States Armed Forces Radio service
Speaker 3 (25:08):
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