April 8, 2025 • 26 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Found off a Chesterfield.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Chesterfield loan nicotine, high astin quality.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Best for you, Chesterfield brings you. Drag Men, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
The story you're about to hear is true. The names
Evan change to protect the innocence. You're a detective sergeant.
You're assigned to autofest detail. You've got a call from
the owner of a used car lot. He tells you
(00:49):
he thinks we bought a stolen car.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Your job.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Check it out, drag Men. The document a drama of
an actual crime. For the next thirty minute sen cooperation
with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step
(01:14):
by step.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
On the side of the law through an actual case.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Transcribe from official police files.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
From beginning to win, from crime to punishment.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Drag Matt is the story of your police force connection
with money. Name for it was warm and latine. That's real.
Working a day. Why I thought about of that seat? Yeah,
my fighter, Frank Smith, the boss is Captain Nelson's my name. Fighter.
I got my way into the office with seven fifty
six am. When I got your room forty at that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's your job.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, all right, once.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Begin in all about seventh Suity, I will drip a cry.
I couldn't get back to sleep with a man.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh, sorry, Joe, I don't think I could lift a
pencil to make out a report today. All right, what
happened baseball?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Baseball? Yeah, tell you something, Joe. I found it out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I ain't no Texas team. Yeah, yesterday morning, I got
up early. I'm gonna do a little work in the garden.
It was a beautiful day, you know, tell a real day.
I got out in the backyard to take it easy.
Listen the ball game, you know, easy day.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. And about ten, that guy next door, Neil Radcliff,
came over.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's the sole fire department in it. Oh, Joe, that's
Budd Hendrickson. Sorry, department Neil works for.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, Neil's company is gonna sponsor a team in the
Little League, you know, kids baseball team. I think I
read something about that in the papers, didn't I? Yeah,
I suppose you did. Did pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh. Neil's got sort of a tryout yesterday, lined up
for his team practice, you know, and he wanted me
to umpire. Do you know anything about being an umpire? Well, Joe,
sure I do. Besides, Neil figured some fun of a policemen.
The kids will believe me.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You had little trouble with himself last week, and I
thought you had to go to some sort of a
school to be an umpire, what Joe you do for
the regular leagues.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But this was just a practice game. Heal's team and
some kids in the neighborhood. You know, I don't sure
i'd do it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I changed my clothes when out the park with him.
You know, I thought it might be good public relations.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
For the police department. You know what they tell us
seeing an umpire would be good public relations.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, the other bullets figured out getting around the neighborhood
and all your friends and their kids.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh, go ahead and show those kids on the wrong league.
We mean they're murder Is that the way they played
the game baseball? I never thought fotball?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I figured, you know, softball under hands, kids picking
beasy to call show it's regulation hardball, just like that
bass a little closer.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But it's just like the big leagues. And the way
those kids throw the ball a couple of times, and
I thought they were just kids.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Not here.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
They stump, never see the ball, thought the kid catch
it with your tipping his hand his glove, you know,
and all of a sudden you turn around there to
be right in his midch why'd you get.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So sore if you get umpired the game? You stood
in one place, didn't you? While I was up in
the game.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, but this team O Neils was skunk and the
other kids so bad that we have the reorganization.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The organizations. Well, on the end of the second inning,
the score was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Fourteen to two, and I thought that was a little
unfair to the neighborhood kids. Being the Empire, you certainly
had the right to think it was unfair. Well, I
got out and I told him what I thought. So
I decided to play first base for him.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You want, I played first base for him with all
those kids, there are fun I played five.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Straight innings, That's what I was just gonna answer. Yeah,
finally I had to clip and hardly moved.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Didn't seem to make any difference where I was, Joe,
those kids weren't there. They just ran me ragged. You know, Well,
maybe you better take a little easy today, would you
like the day off?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, not the day off, Joe, But you know I'll
take it easy, say rub Lennovan on the back of all.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Night over mine and lengths. Man, I'm sure it even
hurt to get dressed this morning. What was the final
score at.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
The end of the second inning? It was fourteen or
two and favored a Little Saints told me fourteen to two.
You got in the game and played, what did it
end up with? You know, I didn't even get one
hit it and three times the bat didn't even get
a hit.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh, that's too bad.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
What was the final score of the game. Did you
hear the final score of the game? Oh, the original score,
but after you played five innings?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
What was the score of the total? I was just
curious to know you. Yeah, forty six to twelve when
I left.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That was at the end of the seventh. The Little
Saints were up when I left. That was the other
team's savor, the team you weren't playing on, Joe.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Don't rub it in. The other team had run through
their batting line up twice. The way they were going,
I think they were gonna have to call the game
on account of darkness. They'd been up over an hour.
Why went out? They sound pretty good? Only may sound pretty.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Good the year with their murders. You know, Joe Tha's
kids grew up. There isn't gonna be a ball club
in the country. It's gonna have a chance again them.
I never thought anything like it. I'm sorry I missed
being here to see you play, and I bet you are.
It's pretty bad, Joel Ready. We could never know it
had me march down for ten hours when I only
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ten or than five innings. I guess they gotta be
pretty bad. Run at score like that. Oh I I
was the though I was pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I guess thought out that fight Yester. Still, we'll be
right out. Won't give me that name again, Blace Sence,
go right away. Yes, it's private. That's a right what
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he got when I don't think you're gonna get much
rest today.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The used car dealer out in Washington, Bullard, Yeah, you
think she bought a stolen car?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Eight fifteen am.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We let's the office and we go out to the
McGowan Car Company. There with a large line on the
Washington Boulevard along the front of the place. There was
a line of late model cars.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
These advertisers today spect him. We walked through the aisles
of our will be to the office and.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The trailer at the back of a lot there was
nobody around, so we knocked on the door and waited.
He said he'd be here, didn't he.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah. I told him we'd be right out. And maybe
he's going out to breakfast too. Yeah with McGowan ran
police officer. So you called our office. My name is Friday.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh yeah, come on in, Thank you, going a bank.
I have him a couple of coffee. Sack you guys
up for the one.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, they're not the room, all right you yes, sir, sir,
I'll have a.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Top of guests go up, going back and sit down.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'll bring it right back.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Say just get your father's name.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
My name is Frank.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Smith, my partner side of Friday. Oh man, I talk
to you on the phone. Did in the midst time?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes, sir, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Shut So I don't know forget a name, I never do.
And there's your coffee. I'm Jesse McGowan.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Guys on the road all the time kidding me about
my first name, Jesse.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Get it so don't where it is.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Jesse Jessey game.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, anyway, I want to tell you about this guy
came in Saturday night last Saturday. Yeah. You see, we
stay open with town on Saturday night. This guy that's coming.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
About nine Jack went over to take the fella said
he wanted to see the manager. So the guy brought
him back here they see. Said he had a car
to said, a brand new Merk beautiful car. Say, I
got to buy the donuts here if you like one,
No thanks, I don't think I don't have one. Didn't
get a chant beep this morning. Got to worrying about
this deal.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I said, only a nuke guy was the same one
on the top.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, I told this guy we'd like to buy the car,
but we were kind of over stocked on months.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, he said he'd just come.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Out to knees Bucks call when he got here.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Said right after he paid for it, he wanted some
job and had to get some money out of it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I asked him if he'd liked to make the trade,
you know, transportation car.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Money to boot.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Offered him a good deal in a mash ramwerk. Just
got a couple of fifty one. Then he said he
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Sell the car out right, said he was going to
leave time.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
He wanted to get his money out of the car.
I asked him how much he wanted for it. He
told me, asked to let it go for twenty two
hundred bucks. It's about eight hundred underd what he must
have paid for it. Right away I figured there was
something wrong, so I had the mechanic look it over.
Only had thirty two hundred miles on it. Halready broke
in beautiful radio here white side wall was commmental hook up?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Realbut or dramechatics say about it?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But it was in perfect shape. So I asked the
guy who the league owner was, what do you say?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
He said he was.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
He paid cash for it, had the pink slip made
after him, all right, had the identification.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
To go with it. He bought the car Entine.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, I sure looked like.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
A good deal.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I gave him a certified check made out the cash
for the amount he gave me the keys.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That was the last I saw, besides in the fact
that it's an unusual deal, Why do you think there's something.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Wrong with it?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, so the first thing, the price he wanted for
the car too low. I had the feeling that if
I had given him any trouble on it could come
down on it.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You have a thick slip here.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh yeah, I brought it with me this morning. I
got him a want any other reason you think the deal.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Might be for me?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's hard to put it in the woods, Sergeant. Nothing
I can point out to you's just a feeling. He's
stay in this business very long and kind of get
to know people. Yes, huh, thank you. Yeah. There's been
a lot of gags about used car salesman, about how
we're always after somebody most of the time, and it's
the other way around, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, the bumps will put out of the business right
after the war.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Public wouldn't stand for the way they did business. Gotta
rely on people coming back if you're gonna come out
in the long run. Now, I guess it's like almost
any other kind of business.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Or so what kind of a dentification did the man
have to prove he was this? Uh? Lewis Carter?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, well tell you the two Susan and I didn't
mask running.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
He had the pink slip price he was asking was right.
We checked the block and body number the one listed
on the slip. No reason to believe he didn't own
the car.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's how about it, Joe, Well, looks like it's one
of the slips from DMV in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean there's something wrong or if I use your phone?
Please sure you've been track down thy?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Can I do miss your number of this?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Two five or seven place just followed that.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I did kill fight. Yeah, say they got a pink
slip out here. Looks like it's one of those that
were still up from DMV down south, go down South
San Diego. You got to lift there always you.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mean somebody's stolen things flip from the department.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's sure. As the news we can figure it. About
two dozen numbers I never heard of. This is the
first one of them.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Hello, yeah, all right, made out to a loud Franklin Carter.
I don't know see see challenge.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, a R D dog Yeah, e R puget Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Leg six number is six sixth oh DAGs we two
sixes sixty sixth o DAGs two more sixers six six seven.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Sixty sixth oh dad six six seven. That's address forty
two eighty seven Ingram Street, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
At least five engine number five A five five O
nine All right, I'm sorry five as five five O
nine two five that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mercury eighth. Yeah, well that's what we figured. You got
anything on the count. H No it no Saturday, Nay,
that's right, Yeah, there should be something on it.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Okay, right, thank you, come by the cartoone, no report, yester,
And I gotta call a bank.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Now. He said he gave the man a certified check.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, I got that payment on it. It can be
easy either. He can catch it any place. She looks
like I'm on twenty two hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, it isn't likely he's been able to catch it
by this time.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Maybe not, but I'll give long eyes that he's standing
in line when the door's open, I better give him
a call. If somebody's there, let's just take twenty five. Yeah,
funds a little early.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That doesn't sound like anybody caring. And he's trying. I
gotta get that check. See what I mean?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
What's that about the jokes? We're the ones always trying
to get away with the fans deal no such things.
Take this one for instance. Well, I bought the car
in good faith, say cash for it. Gave a guy
just what he asks for.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
There we get a little more. Now we got a
complete description of the sustake. Lewis Cutter.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We put out a local MNAPD on him, and then
we asked bean Bergman to come out and go over
the car for fingerprints. The owner of the US, Jesse McGowan,
told us that the cor had been washed in cwean
thoroughly that he didn't think we'd be able to come
up with any fingerprints.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Nine am we put in.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
A call to the bank and asked them to stop
payment on the check and to notify their branch officers
to do the same. McGowan supplied the number of the
check and the information was gotten out to the other
banks and check casing agencies in the area. Bergmann finished
checking the car. He told us it's the only prince
that he's been able to find. Was a partial thumbprint
under the dashboard.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We rolled the prince of.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
The man who had watched the car, along with those
of McGowan and the other people on the lock.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Who come in contact with the automobile. None of theirs matched.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We checked with the off and told them that we'd
check out the address listed on the pink slips. Nine
thirty seven am we pulled up in front of forty
two eighty seven Ingram Street.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The large two story plates that have been converted into
a rooming.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Now, there were several tires popped in the front yard.
We went up to the front door and rang the bell.
I want to try it against him. I didn't know
any of those around anymore. Don't see many have nowadays?
It's tin of doorbell w y.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, might see Lord Carter other of him.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why do you want police officers? You like to talk
to you? Huh? What do you want me? He might
be better for talking and signed hunt and side?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh yeah yeah, corner. Let should set up.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You're one of you guys? Go cigarette? Yes, there is?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Thanks? How about match here? Thanks?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What do you want to see me about something wrong?
You want to take you very much?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He's convitible.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, why you know what it is? You should be
out in the front.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Why you need to be using your cowny find once
in a while, I forget.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Is there now though? Kyle's in stolen at the card? Huh?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Ki been stolen? Well wait a minute, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well where is it here? You got a back for me?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Isn't the free for I?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
No, it sounds like it's not that easy. It was
sold Saturday night? So who too? And he was tied
me out in Washington, boomed guitar stick. Well, I do
you have a pink slip on it?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, I didn't get a backsman Department of Motor Vehicle
with your wine.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well the man was stole the car. I had the
pink slip with him. Well, I don't care if he
did have it. The car doesn't belonging to me, had
no right to sell it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
When was the last time I saw your car?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We guess so Saturday, asked you when I came home
while I parked it out in front. Yeah, Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I just didn't know the car was taken.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh, sure, you saw the front of this place.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Must be half a dozen carts parked out there. The
rumors they used the yard. You didn't use the car
for the weekend then to day?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh no, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I got home Saturday asking him. Like I told you,
I spent the whole weekend doing some painting in one
of the upstairs rooms. There's vake A long time. Figured
maybe if a little paint out on my be able
to rent it. See, my wife used to take Yeah
a place.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
She only had some trouble. She went back eased to
see him more there seems like the house went to pot.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
After she left, and we're really gonna have trouble when
she comes back and sees this mess.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
How many people you have living here?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Uh? Nine?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Like hav to take up at the description, see if
any of.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Them said it the figure might be one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, would like you to check the descriptions? She would o'kay.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Uh, I'm pretty sure there's one of them and none
of them not sis.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
What if you give it to their name?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh sure, I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well why do you have to have it for the tabe?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Oh oh yeah, Well I can get into you, but
I'm sure they.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Are mixed up in extency, saying I can't figure it's
how we got the thanks, but it was stolen from
the state. Yes, sir, I last mot of something broke
into their office and San Diego and stole two dozen vegetations.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Lets how much do you get to the car?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Twenty two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Twenty two hundred thing cost me over three thousand. Okay,
I must be a cure ka.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know. It didn't cost him anything ten fifty name.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We went by the used car lot and picked up
the owner. We took him down to the city Hall
and had him check the mug book. After going through
the pictures, he was unable to give us an identification
of the man who told him to stole an automobile.
He checked the names of the people who lived at
Lewis Carter's house. One of them had a record of
arrest on charges of violation of Section forty one twenty
seven A.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Of the Los Angeles Municipal Code.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He said, a short term in the city jails and
he'd been released. His physical description, however, did not match
that of the suspect we were looking for. Eleven thirty
five am. We had the used card thegether take him
back to.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
His lot, and Frank and I checked into the office.
About the only thing only got working for us is
a check. Now, I don't think it's the word out
in time, and he gets his hands on that money
and they can go a long way. He allout that side.
That's what we did.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's right there, as soon as we can make it
night by Only he isn't going five What a mean
he's at the bank.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now you are listening to drag meth, the authentic story.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Of your police force.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
An action.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
We've gotten a call from a branch office at the
bank that the check had been gone on. At eleven
thirty am that morning, a man had walked into the
bank and presented a check for the.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Amount of twenty two hundred dollars drawn on the account
of Jesse McGowan. Because of the amount of the checks,
it had to be okay by the head cash here. Fortunately,
he'd gotten the information about the check and it stalled
the suspect long enough to call us. He was able
to keep him waiting until we got there.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
The man was taking him the custody without any trouble.
He denied having anything to do with the stolen con
He said that we'd.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Made a mistake. We took him downtown and started to
question him.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'll tell you, I don't know what this is all
about it. I'd like to jump y'all, but there's nothing
I can do.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Frank, Yes, you want to get in touch with McGowan,
had him, yes, anyway, you want to tell me again
when you got that check. I was against a lot
to have a chat like you know where you got
this one? I want it where. I don't know what
this is all about.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm not about to get any of my friends in
trouble by name, and I'm I got nothing to do
with it, but along my pals to.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
See if you have a lot more trouble.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It's gonna tellus where you got to check, all right?
I wanted the poker game pretty high stakes.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And we gave up kid games.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
So would you win it from?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I told you I wasn't gonna name any names, so
was gonna get him sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You know that, And that's for me.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You know, you build anywhere you want. That's the way
I figure it. One was this poker game Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Night or I'm Saturday.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's a not a lot I can't answer. He's been
in Sandy years lately, that's for a couple of months.
When the last time you were down? I don't remember
right off? It will help with the game, What do
you mean helped me?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I got no trouble. You guys make a pincil. I'm
trying to catch a check. I want the money with
a payment for a debt.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
All I was trying to do is get my money.
There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I wanted to tell us where you want the money from.
And now, if you guys saw a beef with them.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Nothing doing.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I said, what you saw to spend your time breaking up.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A game of old name a little more serious than that?
Well maybe to you, I got no problem. All I
gotta do is sit.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Tight, you people, even that mister, You keep back and
like this and you'll see what the problem you really
is out there.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Mcgonald's unys were over Joe, who's McDonald?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Who's the man who wrote the check? And tragedy can
waste the time? You don't know me. We'll let him
decide that. Go ahead, have your fun.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
A couple of questions we'd like to ask you. Go ahead,
I got nothing more important to do. Text your names,
draw down.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
A station from Gerald came up with somebody interesting things. No,
uh yeah, let me see three two names. Harold Drake
ran Yeah, I just was listened.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It was twenty nine to seventeen. Legs were driving early. Yeah,
because you've never been arrested.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I haven't. Let's take a look at the picture you
got the room ridden for movie.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I'm gonna tell you something, Drake.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You might get done. You remember it.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
As soon as you stop playing.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Put you with us, the better it's gonna be for you. Understand,
but do you bring out the rubber hole and went
out with the story you're trying to hand it. Here's
the picture, m h. And the guy looks a lot
like me. There's no anybody. You might think we were
twins if he didn't know better, but we do. Oh,
come off with Drake when we got your nails. And
you know, if you want to sit there and dream
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up these ferry feel, that's up to you. But we
got a job to do. We know you'll stand for this,
and so to you. Now, why don't you save It's
both a lot of trouble and cop out. I'd like
to do it, so I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, Lie, I really would, but I can't cop out
to something I had nothing to do with.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
All right, start all over again. Where did you get
to check?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The guy gave it to me?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The fay offful pooket. They're gonna tell us who the
guy is. No, I think it's time to stop playing game.
Now let's get out to what we got.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
In the books.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Here, you clean, you've never been arrested. We got a
package young hare to show three arrests and two.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Convictions and a guy that looks like me.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Let's go down the hall and road your friends, I'll
clan if that one.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
For that, go on, tell me the rest of the
ferry too. I'll lay it out for you in one
syllable words that don't make.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It easy for you. You broke into the offices at
the MV down in San Diego on February twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, Dago's nice in February.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Something's gonna write a song about it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Sometimes he's still twenty six pink slips, buddy, from.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Mailing to the owners.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You must mean somebody that smile is gonna.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Come off your face, Drake when McGowan watched it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Look, guy, I don't know who mister McGowan is, but
I'll be hap happy to meet him. I'll tell me
what did I do after I stole the pink slip.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You got the address of Lewis Carter, and you went
to his home on Saturday night and you stole his car.
They drove it down to mc gown to his car
lot where the pink slip.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You saw the twenty for twenty two hundred. But I'll
just bid you that night was. And what are you
trying to prove with all this talk, Drake? You're trying
to make it ugh on yourself. Is that what you want?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm not trying to do anything, and I'm doing this
trying to go along with you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I'll check us to the McGowan.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Guys, one of those.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, help yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Thanks, And I wouldn't have your job for all the
money in the world, right. That's a lousy way to live,
going around trying to get people to cop.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Out the things they didn't do. That's the way it
looks to you there and the money where I said
it turns up to that way. A couple of things.
Long what your records for one thing? And if you
can prove it's mind, all we gotta do is walk
down the hall and you had it as soon as
we checked the Prince. We've turned the key. That's good.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
The way you tell it's gonna sound better the way to.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Judge ses it isn't it who's writing for you? You
were arrested in nineteen thirty nine Paratoff, you served three years,
arrested nineteen forty five and six and grand theft Autos
just messed.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Bag you shee. I knew they had the wrong guy.
Nobody's told us. Another arrest in nineteen forty six grand
theft auto served four.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Years case of mistaken identity?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Is that what happened both times? Some people got very
bad ice.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Now you think this fellow magual and you're bringing him here,
wouldn't be it all surprised if he had bad ice?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You know, there's one way to get yourself out of this,
and that's to tell us where you got that check.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I don't know how to do it any more simple
than I have. So I want to playing poker now.
I'm not gonna tell you who I wanted from. I
wouldn't do any good. I don't know who's been.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Giving you advice, mister, but you aren't playing it very smart. Really,
the guy who dreamed up this routine probably spent the
next twenty years at QWO.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
As a matter of fact, you're still walking.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Around, all right, Michael said on the hall and take
your friends.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm on I listen for god, that's the man you
sure about? That pork looking court?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What are you trying to do.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Cause me a lot of trouble. I haven't done anything,
and you know now you're coming here and you say
that's the man.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know what they can do it to my lifetrack.
That's or nothing of that? That's so much mcdonne, Where
thought you call it?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Text? Samar told me to Todd, how about a drake.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Nothing tomorrow? Yeah, well, will your princes and check them
against the record.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We got a couple of partials from San Diego, yours,
man Chap, and I think they will. You've had no
way out of not that I can see.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh what happens? Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But this is just a wild question for the sake
of argument. What happens if I cop out play Gilly?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We got nothing to say about that. You can't help
out an shi say that tax payers a lot of money.
No try, I told you we got nothing to say
about that. Not much to gain them by copanado. We
got your mate. If you do it, you don't, maybe
make it a little easier.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
If there's no Jewey trial except to.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The judge, nothing you can do. Then go into the
book that way.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You got another cigarette?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It right there. I helped yourself.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Thanks, all right, let's go might as we'll get the
prince and finish your singing up.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Come on, Greg, get up, No hurry, let me finish
the cigarette. Come on, we've got other things to do.
One to ten years. The story you have gus heard
is true.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
The names were changed to protect the innocence.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
On September fifteenth, trial was held in Department ninety eighth
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles. In a moment the results
of that trial, Harold Alex Drake was tried and convicted
of grand theft autos three counts and was sentenced. As
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prescribed by law, grand theft daughto is punishable by imprisonment
in the state penitentiary for a.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Period of from one to ten years.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
A hold was placed on the suspect by San Diego
count for prosecution on the.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Burglary charge.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
You have just heard, Greg Man a series of authentic
cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office
of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police
Departments Technical advisors Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Matty Winn, Sergeant
fans Paer. Third to night were Ben Alexander her Bigrant,
Jack Krusian.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Hervellat scripted by John Robinson, music.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
By Walver Schumer.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Hell Give Me Speaking
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Script by John Robinson, music by Walter Schumer Hell Give
Me Speaking
Found off a Chesterfield.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Chesterfield loan nicotine, high astin quality.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Best for you, Chesterfield brings you. Drag Men, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
The story you're about to hear is true. The names
Evan change to protect the innocence. You're a detective sergeant.
You're assigned to autofest detail. You've got a call from
the owner of a used car lot. He tells you
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he thinks we bought a stolen car.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Your job.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Check it out, drag Men. The document a drama of
an actual crime. For the next thirty minute sen cooperation
with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step
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by step.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
On the side of the law through an actual case.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Transcribe from official police files.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
From beginning to win, from crime to punishment.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Drag Matt is the story of your police force connection
with money. Name for it was warm and latine. That's real.
Working a day. Why I thought about of that seat? Yeah,
my fighter, Frank Smith, the boss is Captain Nelson's my name. Fighter.
I got my way into the office with seven fifty
six am. When I got your room forty at that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's your job.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, all right, once.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Begin in all about seventh Suity, I will drip a cry.
I couldn't get back to sleep with a man.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh, sorry, Joe, I don't think I could lift a
pencil to make out a report today. All right, what
happened baseball?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Baseball? Yeah, tell you something, Joe. I found it out yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I ain't no Texas team. Yeah, yesterday morning, I got
up early. I'm gonna do a little work in the garden.
It was a beautiful day, you know, tell a real day.
I got out in the backyard to take it easy.
Listen the ball game, you know, easy day.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. And about ten, that guy next door, Neil Radcliff,
came over.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's the sole fire department in it. Oh, Joe, that's
Budd Hendrickson. Sorry, department Neil works for.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well, Neil's company is gonna sponsor a team in the
Little League, you know, kids baseball team. I think I
read something about that in the papers, didn't I? Yeah,
I suppose you did. Did pretty good too.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Oh. Neil's got sort of a tryout yesterday, lined up
for his team practice, you know, and he wanted me
to umpire. Do you know anything about being an umpire? Well, Joe,
sure I do. Besides, Neil figured some fun of a policemen.
The kids will believe me.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You had little trouble with himself last week, and I
thought you had to go to some sort of a
school to be an umpire, what Joe you do for
the regular leagues.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But this was just a practice game. Heal's team and
some kids in the neighborhood. You know, I don't sure
i'd do it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I changed my clothes when out the park with him.
You know, I thought it might be good public relations.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
For the police department. You know what they tell us
seeing an umpire would be good public relations.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, the other bullets figured out getting around the neighborhood
and all your friends and their kids.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh, go ahead and show those kids on the wrong league.
We mean they're murder Is that the way they played
the game baseball? I never thought fotball?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I figured, you know, softball under hands, kids picking
beasy to call show it's regulation hardball, just like that
bass a little closer.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But it's just like the big leagues. And the way
those kids throw the ball a couple of times, and
I thought they were just kids.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Not here.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
They stump, never see the ball, thought the kid catch
it with your tipping his hand his glove, you know,
and all of a sudden you turn around there to
be right in his midch why'd you get.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So sore if you get umpired the game? You stood
in one place, didn't you? While I was up in
the game.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, but this team O Neils was skunk and the
other kids so bad that we have the reorganization.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The organizations. Well, on the end of the second inning,
the score was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Fourteen to two, and I thought that was a little
unfair to the neighborhood kids. Being the Empire, you certainly
had the right to think it was unfair. Well, I
got out and I told him what I thought. So
I decided to play first base for him.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You want, I played first base for him with all
those kids, there are fun I played five.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Straight innings, That's what I was just gonna answer. Yeah,
finally I had to clip and hardly moved.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Didn't seem to make any difference where I was, Joe,
those kids weren't there. They just ran me ragged. You know, Well,
maybe you better take a little easy today, would you
like the day off?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, not the day off, Joe, But you know I'll
take it easy, say rub Lennovan on the back of all.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Night over mine and lengths. Man, I'm sure it even
hurt to get dressed this morning. What was the final
score at.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
The end of the second inning? It was fourteen or
two and favored a Little Saints told me fourteen to two.
You got in the game and played, what did it
end up with? You know, I didn't even get one
hit it and three times the bat didn't even get
a hit.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh, that's too bad.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
What was the final score of the game. Did you
hear the final score of the game? Oh, the original score,
but after you played five innings?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
What was the score of the total? I was just
curious to know you. Yeah, forty six to twelve when
I left.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That was at the end of the seventh. The Little
Saints were up when I left. That was the other
team's savor, the team you weren't playing on, Joe.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Don't rub it in. The other team had run through
their batting line up twice. The way they were going,
I think they were gonna have to call the game
on account of darkness. They'd been up over an hour.
Why went out? They sound pretty good? Only may sound pretty.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Good the year with their murders. You know, Joe Tha's
kids grew up. There isn't gonna be a ball club
in the country. It's gonna have a chance again them.
I never thought anything like it. I'm sorry I missed
being here to see you play, and I bet you are.
It's pretty bad, Joel Ready. We could never know it
had me march down for ten hours when I only
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ten or than five innings. I guess they gotta be
pretty bad. Run at score like that. Oh I I
was the though I was pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I guess thought out that fight Yester. Still, we'll be
right out. Won't give me that name again, Blace Sence,
go right away. Yes, it's private. That's a right what
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he got when I don't think you're gonna get much
rest today.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The used car dealer out in Washington, Bullard, Yeah, you
think she bought a stolen car?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Eight fifteen am.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We let's the office and we go out to the
McGowan Car Company. There with a large line on the
Washington Boulevard along the front of the place. There was
a line of late model cars.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
These advertisers today spect him. We walked through the aisles
of our will be to the office and.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The trailer at the back of a lot there was
nobody around, so we knocked on the door and waited.
He said he'd be here, didn't he.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah. I told him we'd be right out. And maybe
he's going out to breakfast too. Yeah with McGowan ran
police officer. So you called our office. My name is Friday.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh yeah, come on in, Thank you, going a bank.
I have him a couple of coffee. Sack you guys
up for the one.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, they're not the room, all right you yes, sir, sir,
I'll have a.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Top of guests go up, going back and sit down.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I'll bring it right back.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Say just get your father's name.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
My name is Frank.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Smith, my partner side of Friday. Oh man, I talk
to you on the phone. Did in the midst time?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yes, sir, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Shut So I don't know forget a name, I never do.
And there's your coffee. I'm Jesse McGowan.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Guys on the road all the time kidding me about
my first name, Jesse.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Get it so don't where it is.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Jesse Jessey game.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, anyway, I want to tell you about this guy
came in Saturday night last Saturday. Yeah. You see, we
stay open with town on Saturday night. This guy that's coming.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
About nine Jack went over to take the fella said
he wanted to see the manager. So the guy brought
him back here they see. Said he had a car
to said, a brand new Merk beautiful car. Say, I
got to buy the donuts here if you like one,
No thanks, I don't think I don't have one. Didn't
get a chant beep this morning. Got to worrying about
this deal.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I said, only a nuke guy was the same one
on the top.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, I told this guy we'd like to buy the car,
but we were kind of over stocked on months.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, he said he'd just come.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Out to knees Bucks call when he got here.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Said right after he paid for it, he wanted some
job and had to get some money out of it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I asked him if he'd liked to make the trade,
you know, transportation car.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Money to boot.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Offered him a good deal in a mash ramwerk. Just
got a couple of fifty one. Then he said he
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Sell the car out right, said he was going to
leave time.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
He wanted to get his money out of the car.
I asked him how much he wanted for it. He
told me, asked to let it go for twenty two
hundred bucks. It's about eight hundred underd what he must
have paid for it. Right away I figured there was
something wrong, so I had the mechanic look it over.
Only had thirty two hundred miles on it. Halready broke
in beautiful radio here white side wall was commmental hook up?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Realbut or dramechatics say about it?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But it was in perfect shape. So I asked the
guy who the league owner was, what do you say?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
He said he was.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
He paid cash for it, had the pink slip made
after him, all right, had the identification.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
To go with it. He bought the car Entine.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, I sure looked like.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
A good deal.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I gave him a certified check made out the cash
for the amount he gave me the keys.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That was the last I saw, besides in the fact
that it's an unusual deal, Why do you think there's something.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Wrong with it?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, so the first thing, the price he wanted for
the car too low. I had the feeling that if
I had given him any trouble on it could come
down on it.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You have a thick slip here.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh yeah, I brought it with me this morning. I
got him a want any other reason you think the deal.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Might be for me?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
It's hard to put it in the woods, Sergeant. Nothing
I can point out to you's just a feeling. He's
stay in this business very long and kind of get
to know people. Yes, huh, thank you. Yeah. There's been
a lot of gags about used car salesman, about how
we're always after somebody most of the time, and it's
the other way around, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, the bumps will put out of the business right
after the war.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Public wouldn't stand for the way they did business. Gotta
rely on people coming back if you're gonna come out
in the long run. Now, I guess it's like almost
any other kind of business.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Or so what kind of a dentification did the man
have to prove he was this? Uh? Lewis Carter?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, well tell you the two Susan and I didn't
mask running.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
He had the pink slip price he was asking was right.
We checked the block and body number the one listed
on the slip. No reason to believe he didn't own
the car.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's how about it, Joe, Well, looks like it's one
of the slips from DMV in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean there's something wrong or if I use your phone?
Please sure you've been track down thy?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Can I do miss your number of this?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Two five or seven place just followed that.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I did kill fight. Yeah, say they got a pink
slip out here. Looks like it's one of those that
were still up from DMV down south, go down South
San Diego. You got to lift there always you.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mean somebody's stolen things flip from the department.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's sure. As the news we can figure it. About
two dozen numbers I never heard of. This is the
first one of them.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Hello, yeah, all right, made out to a loud Franklin Carter.
I don't know see see challenge.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, a R D dog Yeah, e R puget Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Leg six number is six sixth oh DAGs we two
sixes sixty sixth o DAGs two more sixers six six seven.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Sixty sixth oh dad six six seven. That's address forty
two eighty seven Ingram Street, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
At least five engine number five A five five O
nine All right, I'm sorry five as five five O
nine two five that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mercury eighth. Yeah, well that's what we figured. You got
anything on the count. H No it no Saturday, Nay,
that's right, Yeah, there should be something on it.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Okay, right, thank you, come by the cartoone, no report, yester,
And I gotta call a bank.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Now. He said he gave the man a certified check.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, I got that payment on it. It can be
easy either. He can catch it any place. She looks
like I'm on twenty two hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, it isn't likely he's been able to catch it
by this time.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Maybe not, but I'll give long eyes that he's standing
in line when the door's open, I better give him
a call. If somebody's there, let's just take twenty five. Yeah,
funds a little early.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That doesn't sound like anybody caring. And he's trying. I
gotta get that check. See what I mean?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
What's that about the jokes? We're the ones always trying
to get away with the fans deal no such things.
Take this one for instance. Well, I bought the car
in good faith, say cash for it. Gave a guy
just what he asks for.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
There we get a little more. Now we got a
complete description of the sustake. Lewis Cutter.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
We put out a local MNAPD on him, and then
we asked bean Bergman to come out and go over
the car for fingerprints. The owner of the US, Jesse McGowan,
told us that the cor had been washed in cwean
thoroughly that he didn't think we'd be able to come
up with any fingerprints.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Nine am we put in.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
A call to the bank and asked them to stop
payment on the check and to notify their branch officers
to do the same. McGowan supplied the number of the
check and the information was gotten out to the other
banks and check casing agencies in the area. Bergmann finished
checking the car. He told us it's the only prince
that he's been able to find. Was a partial thumbprint
under the dashboard.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We rolled the prince of.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
The man who had watched the car, along with those
of McGowan and the other people on the lock.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Who come in contact with the automobile. None of theirs matched.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
We checked with the off and told them that we'd
check out the address listed on the pink slips. Nine
thirty seven am we pulled up in front of forty
two eighty seven Ingram Street.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The large two story plates that have been converted into
a rooming.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Now, there were several tires popped in the front yard.
We went up to the front door and rang the bell.
I want to try it against him. I didn't know
any of those around anymore. Don't see many have nowadays?
It's tin of doorbell w y.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, might see Lord Carter other of him.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why do you want police officers? You like to talk
to you? Huh? What do you want me? He might
be better for talking and signed hunt and side?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh yeah yeah, corner. Let should set up.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You're one of you guys? Go cigarette? Yes, there is?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Thanks? How about match here? Thanks?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What do you want to see me about something wrong?
You want to take you very much?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He's convitible.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, why you know what it is? You should be
out in the front.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Why you need to be using your cowny find once
in a while, I forget.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Is there now though? Kyle's in stolen at the card? Huh?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Ki been stolen? Well wait a minute, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well where is it here? You got a back for me?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Isn't the free for I?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
No, it sounds like it's not that easy. It was
sold Saturday night? So who too? And he was tied
me out in Washington, boomed guitar stick. Well, I do
you have a pink slip on it?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, I didn't get a backsman Department of Motor Vehicle
with your wine.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Well the man was stole the car. I had the
pink slip with him. Well, I don't care if he
did have it. The car doesn't belonging to me, had
no right to sell it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
When was the last time I saw your car?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
We guess so Saturday, asked you when I came home
while I parked it out in front. Yeah, Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I just didn't know the car was taken.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Oh, sure, you saw the front of this place.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Must be half a dozen carts parked out there. The
rumors they used the yard. You didn't use the car
for the weekend then to day?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Oh no, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I got home Saturday asking him. Like I told you,
I spent the whole weekend doing some painting in one
of the upstairs rooms. There's vake A long time. Figured
maybe if a little paint out on my be able
to rent it. See, my wife used to take Yeah
a place.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
She only had some trouble. She went back eased to
see him more there seems like the house went to pot.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
After she left, and we're really gonna have trouble when
she comes back and sees this mess.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
How many people you have living here?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Uh? Nine?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Like hav to take up at the description, see if
any of.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Them said it the figure might be one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, would like you to check the descriptions? She would o'kay.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Uh, I'm pretty sure there's one of them and none
of them not sis.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
What if you give it to their name?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh sure, I can't.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well why do you have to have it for the tabe?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Oh oh yeah, Well I can get into you, but
I'm sure they.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Are mixed up in extency, saying I can't figure it's
how we got the thanks, but it was stolen from
the state. Yes, sir, I last mot of something broke
into their office and San Diego and stole two dozen vegetations.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Lets how much do you get to the car?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Twenty two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Twenty two hundred thing cost me over three thousand. Okay,
I must be a cure ka.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know. It didn't cost him anything ten fifty name.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We went by the used car lot and picked up
the owner. We took him down to the city Hall
and had him check the mug book. After going through
the pictures, he was unable to give us an identification
of the man who told him to stole an automobile.
He checked the names of the people who lived at
Lewis Carter's house. One of them had a record of
arrest on charges of violation of Section forty one twenty
seven A.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Of the Los Angeles Municipal Code.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
He said, a short term in the city jails and
he'd been released. His physical description, however, did not match
that of the suspect we were looking for. Eleven thirty
five am. We had the used card thegether take him
back to.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
His lot, and Frank and I checked into the office.
About the only thing only got working for us is
a check. Now, I don't think it's the word out
in time, and he gets his hands on that money
and they can go a long way. He allout that side.
That's what we did.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's right there, as soon as we can make it
night by Only he isn't going five What a mean
he's at the bank.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now you are listening to drag meth, the authentic story.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Of your police force.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
An action.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
We've gotten a call from a branch office at the
bank that the check had been gone on. At eleven
thirty am that morning, a man had walked into the
bank and presented a check for the.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Amount of twenty two hundred dollars drawn on the account
of Jesse McGowan. Because of the amount of the checks,
it had to be okay by the head cash here. Fortunately,
he'd gotten the information about the check and it stalled
the suspect long enough to call us. He was able
to keep him waiting until we got there.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
The man was taking him the custody without any trouble.
He denied having anything to do with the stolen con
He said that we'd.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Made a mistake. We took him downtown and started to
question him.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'll tell you, I don't know what this is all
about it. I'd like to jump y'all, but there's nothing
I can do.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Frank, Yes, you want to get in touch with McGowan,
had him, yes, anyway, you want to tell me again
when you got that check. I was against a lot
to have a chat like you know where you got
this one? I want it where. I don't know what
this is all about.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm not about to get any of my friends in
trouble by name, and I'm I got nothing to do
with it, but along my pals to.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
See if you have a lot more trouble.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It's gonna tellus where you got to check, all right?
I wanted the poker game pretty high stakes.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And we gave up kid games.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
So would you win it from?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I told you I wasn't gonna name any names, so
was gonna get him sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You know that, And that's for me.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You know, you build anywhere you want. That's the way
I figure it. One was this poker game Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Night or I'm Saturday.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
There's a not a lot I can't answer. He's been
in Sandy years lately, that's for a couple of months.
When the last time you were down? I don't remember
right off? It will help with the game, What do
you mean helped me?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I got no trouble. You guys make a pincil. I'm
trying to catch a check. I want the money with
a payment for a debt.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
All I was trying to do is get my money.
There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I wanted to tell us where you want the money from.
And now, if you guys saw a beef with them.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Nothing doing.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I said, what you saw to spend your time breaking up.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A game of old name a little more serious than that?
Well maybe to you, I got no problem. All I
gotta do is sit.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Tight, you people, even that mister, You keep back and
like this and you'll see what the problem you really
is out there.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Mcgonald's unys were over Joe, who's McDonald?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Who's the man who wrote the check? And tragedy can
waste the time? You don't know me. We'll let him
decide that. Go ahead, have your fun.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
A couple of questions we'd like to ask you. Go ahead,
I got nothing more important to do. Text your names,
draw down.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
A station from Gerald came up with somebody interesting things. No,
uh yeah, let me see three two names. Harold Drake
ran Yeah, I just was listened.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It was twenty nine to seventeen. Legs were driving early. Yeah,
because you've never been arrested.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I haven't. Let's take a look at the picture you
got the room ridden for movie.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I'm gonna tell you something, Drake.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You might get done. You remember it.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
As soon as you stop playing.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Put you with us, the better it's gonna be for you. Understand,
but do you bring out the rubber hole and went
out with the story you're trying to hand it. Here's
the picture, m h. And the guy looks a lot
like me. There's no anybody. You might think we were
twins if he didn't know better, but we do. Oh,
come off with Drake when we got your nails. And
you know, if you want to sit there and dream
(21:04):
up these ferry feel, that's up to you. But we
got a job to do. We know you'll stand for this,
and so to you. Now, why don't you save It's
both a lot of trouble and cop out. I'd like
to do it, so I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, Lie, I really would, but I can't cop out
to something I had nothing to do with.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
All right, start all over again. Where did you get
to check?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The guy gave it to me?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The fay offful pooket. They're gonna tell us who the
guy is. No, I think it's time to stop playing game.
Now let's get out to what we got.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
In the books.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Here, you clean, you've never been arrested. We got a
package young hare to show three arrests and two.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Convictions and a guy that looks like me.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Let's go down the hall and road your friends, I'll
clan if that one.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
For that, go on, tell me the rest of the
ferry too. I'll lay it out for you in one
syllable words that don't make.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It easy for you. You broke into the offices at
the MV down in San Diego on February twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, Dago's nice in February.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Something's gonna write a song about it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Sometimes he's still twenty six pink slips, buddy, from.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Mailing to the owners.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You must mean somebody that smile is gonna.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Come off your face, Drake when McGowan watched it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Look, guy, I don't know who mister McGowan is, but
I'll be hap happy to meet him. I'll tell me
what did I do after I stole the pink slip.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You got the address of Lewis Carter, and you went
to his home on Saturday night and you stole his car.
They drove it down to mc gown to his car
lot where the pink slip.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You saw the twenty for twenty two hundred. But I'll
just bid you that night was. And what are you
trying to prove with all this talk, Drake? You're trying
to make it ugh on yourself. Is that what you want?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm not trying to do anything, and I'm doing this
trying to go along with you guys.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I'll check us to the McGowan.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Guys, one of those.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, help yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Thanks, And I wouldn't have your job for all the
money in the world, right. That's a lousy way to live,
going around trying to get people to cop.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Out the things they didn't do. That's the way it
looks to you there and the money where I said
it turns up to that way. A couple of things.
Long what your records for one thing? And if you
can prove it's mind, all we gotta do is walk
down the hall and you had it as soon as
we checked the Prince. We've turned the key. That's good.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
The way you tell it's gonna sound better the way to.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Judge ses it isn't it who's writing for you? You
were arrested in nineteen thirty nine Paratoff, you served three years,
arrested nineteen forty five and six and grand theft Autos
just messed.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Bag you shee. I knew they had the wrong guy.
Nobody's told us. Another arrest in nineteen forty six grand
theft auto served four.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Years case of mistaken identity?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Is that what happened both times? Some people got very
bad ice.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Now you think this fellow magual and you're bringing him here,
wouldn't be it all surprised if he had bad ice?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You know, there's one way to get yourself out of this,
and that's to tell us where you got that check.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I don't know how to do it any more simple
than I have. So I want to playing poker now.
I'm not gonna tell you who I wanted from. I
wouldn't do any good. I don't know who's been.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Giving you advice, mister, but you aren't playing it very smart. Really,
the guy who dreamed up this routine probably spent the
next twenty years at QWO.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
As a matter of fact, you're still walking.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Around, all right, Michael said on the hall and take
your friends.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm on I listen for god, that's the man you
sure about? That pork looking court?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What are you trying to do.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Cause me a lot of trouble. I haven't done anything,
and you know now you're coming here and you say
that's the man.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know what they can do it to my lifetrack.
That's or nothing of that? That's so much mcdonne, Where
thought you call it?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Text? Samar told me to Todd, how about a drake.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Nothing tomorrow? Yeah, well, will your princes and check them
against the record.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We got a couple of partials from San Diego, yours,
man Chap, and I think they will. You've had no
way out of not that I can see.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh what happens? Uh?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But this is just a wild question for the sake
of argument. What happens if I cop out play Gilly?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
We got nothing to say about that. You can't help
out an shi say that tax payers a lot of money.
No try, I told you we got nothing to say
about that. Not much to gain them by copanado. We
got your mate. If you do it, you don't, maybe
make it a little easier.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
If there's no Jewey trial except to.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
The judge, nothing you can do. Then go into the
book that way.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You got another cigarette?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It right there. I helped yourself.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Thanks, all right, let's go might as we'll get the
prince and finish your singing up.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Come on, Greg, get up, No hurry, let me finish
the cigarette. Come on, we've got other things to do.
One to ten years. The story you have gus heard
is true.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
The names were changed to protect the innocence.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
On September fifteenth, trial was held in Department ninety eighth
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles. In a moment the results
of that trial, Harold Alex Drake was tried and convicted
of grand theft autos three counts and was sentenced. As
(25:49):
prescribed by law, grand theft daughto is punishable by imprisonment
in the state penitentiary for a.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Period of from one to ten years.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
A hold was placed on the suspect by San Diego
count for prosecution on the.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Burglary charge.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
You have just heard, Greg Man a series of authentic
cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office
of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police
Departments Technical advisors Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Matty Winn, Sergeant
fans Paer. Third to night were Ben Alexander her Bigrant,
Jack Krusian.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Hervellat scripted by John Robinson, music.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
By Walver Schumer.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Hell Give Me Speaking
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Script by John Robinson, music by Walter Schumer Hell Give
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