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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned the Bunco Fugitive Details.
A man tells you he's been taken for a large
(00:28):
sum of money. He thinks it with a swindle.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Your job brought it down.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The documented drummer of an actual crime. For the next
thirty minutes, in cooperation of the Los Angeles Police Department, you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Will travel step by step on the side of the
law through.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
An actual case transcribed to official police.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Finds, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet
is the story of your police force in action.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Oh, it was Monday, September twelfth. Was hot in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
We were working a day watch out of Bunco Fugitive Detail.
My partner Frank Smith, the boss's captain Gideon. My name
is Friday. I was on my way back from communications.
That was two seventeen PM when I got the room.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thirty eight Bunco Fugitive Oh, hi Joe.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
How right I get it?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Uncle Fugitive Friday. Yes, that's right. Who well onced you
see him last?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
So how much was it? How much? Al right, sir,
we'll be here well right away if I were you alright?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Fine?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Fellas coming in to talk to us, Yeah, says he
gave a friend he gets forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Oh, kind of broke up their friendship.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
What do I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The guy skipped out?
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Two forty two pm, the man who had telephone came
into the office.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
He told us that his name was Jeff Crainer. He
said he had a.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Real estate business on Wilsha Boulevard and that his home
residence was on Rossmore near Olympic.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
He also said that on the previous Tuesday had given.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Him forty thousand dollars to a man who called himself
Philip Bonham.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You know where this Fello Bonham lives, mister Tranny, I
don't know where he used to live. Where is that?
A pipman out in Westward?
Speaker 8 (02:20):
Real fancy be savings, lots of glass swimming for the
whole works.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
He's not there anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
A manager of the building says he moved last two
day day.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I gave Phill the money.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Whose day, uh? Fill and his brother had the place together.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
What's the brother's name?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Steve?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Does the manager of any idea.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Where they went well, claims they didn't leave any forwarding address.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just shure go.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
How long have you known the bottom of mister trainer?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
H sixth rat reach and I.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Japped to meet up a thrill friend, the mutual friends,
What would you tell us about it?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, well, it's not gonna come out, is it a
newspapers anything like that?
Speaker 7 (02:58):
You know what he means?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, you see, I'm I'm married. Yeh uh.
Speaker 8 (03:03):
We hadn't been getting along so well for the last
year or so, but I'm still married. M The way
I met up with the Bottoms.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You see it through a girl. You know what was
her name? Barbara?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Barbara whizzed?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh she oh, just a girl I saw.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Maybe she was in on her too, I I don't know. Anyway,
she introduced me to him, but I already known her.
Oh uh, but three months.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Maybe a few weeks before I left there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Let me see, we got acquainted that an auction one
of those houses out in Beverly Boulevard. Will they sell
off furniture and things from movie stars houses.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Used to spend a lot of my free evenings at
those auctions.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
There wasn't any point to staying home.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
Not my wife feeling towards me way she died. I
didn't buy much's just a piece of her once in
a while.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
It looked like a barnain.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
And that's where you met this woman.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
In Yes, yes, so was she living you know? Uh
had a room in the hotwn in Hollywood to count George.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Or so go aheads know what hap next?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, we got to be pretty good friends, and one
night she offered to put me in touch with a
couple of guys she knew.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
He said they were interested in buying some real estate
and that I might as well handle the deal.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well that's how I met up with the Bottoms. Yes,
we went out to their apartment there having a little party.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
A couple more girls were there on.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
A Friday night.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I guess we all got kind of loaded.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Next thing I knew, we were all flying down.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
To Vegas for the weekend. Well, we sure had quite
a time for ourselves.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Stopped one of the best hotels, Chatau Lafayette. Everybody making
a big fuss, but the Bottoms were vp.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
After that, we had some deals together, most of them
worked out.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Whenever they didn't.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
The Bottoms took care of me anyhow, What kind of deals,
its creded. I guess maybe they weren't well strictly ethical,
but there wasn't anything illegal about it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
You've got to cut a couple of corners if you're
going to get ahead in this world.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I get a little tired of the sergeant. Sir, you
act like I'm at Paul, like I'm the one who's
in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You remember it was me that got swiddled and forty.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Thousand dollars worth.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm not the criminal.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
They are sure you want to tell us about the
forty thousand criminal.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
If you're all through with these accusations, go ahead, all right.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was the last Tuesday, so Bonham called me at
my office.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
They had to see me right away about a proposition
or a really big one.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
We met for lunch.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Bonham said they just had word from one of their
contacts in Las Vegas. A couple of Eastern gamblers at
tapped the casino with a Chateau Lafayette for a quarter
of a million dollars. Now the Chatou needed some money,
and they needed it fast, so the owners were willing
to sell a five percent interest in the hotel for
one hundred thousand our Phil said it was a sinister
we'd get our investment back inside of six months, and
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from then on it was just graty.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
Everybody knows how much.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Those hotels in Las Vegas may.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So you gave him the money.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
He drew it out of the bank that afternoon, had
to be in cash.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Said, you know the denominations of the bill, they're all hundreds.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Then I went back to the office.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And the Bottoms took off for Las Vegas. At least
that's what they were supposed to do. They said they'd
call me from there. But when I still hadn't anything
by Friday, I went over to their apartment and talked.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
To the manager. He said they'd moved out two of
he at five pm.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Why didn't you get in touch with us then?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It didn't seem like crooks, not a bit.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
What were they like?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, why would you describe him for us?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Well, Phillip's the oldest.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
There's about forty five and a light hair complexion, Cobbages
called about six foot man.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Thin, sort of rangers. What about his brother?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Ste's maybe thirty four years younger, a.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Little shorter, not much though, little heavy.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
What colors is there reddish. The girl who introduced you
to him. He said her name was Barbara wist.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
Yes, that's right. How do you spell that?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Wit? Wanna describe her to what's pretty hard to say?
Oh she is.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
She's not very good at.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Judging the woman's aide.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Well approximately then oh twenty eight, twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Thirty could could even be thirty five mm one.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Real white streak across the front. Very attractive, good company,
nice build. Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Have you tried to get in touch with it?
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Since you saw the Bonhoms last That's how I called
a hotel. Well, she moved out last Tuesday morning.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, how are you supposed to know for who to trust? They?
They were so darn nice to me, the Bonhoms and
barber there.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
There wasn't any way of figuring that what they were
after they like you say that they were just kind
of setting me up.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But you had a tip off? Yes, well, where when
you thought you were getting something for nothing?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
The o eight pm we remained Philip and Steve Bomb
and Barbara wist Y and I.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
They had nothing on him.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
We went back to the office and showed to take
the mug shots of known confidence man.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
He was unable to identify any.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Of the photographs. Three thirty two pm. We showed him
mugs of competence women.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, not on that page.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
So uh huh, said who my? Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
My wife won't find out about all this work.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
She not from us.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We hadn't been getting along quite a while, but now
you know she she just wouldn't understand. Funny, aren't they?
Speaker 7 (08:38):
How's that?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Women? Even if they won't have anything to do with
it themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
They just don't want another day and move over?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Ana want to go on to the next page. Oh yeah, sure,
same say, Now, yeah, that looks like her?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Well is it?
Speaker 6 (08:59):
No?
Speaker 7 (09:00):
I guess not.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
There's something different there. Show's resemblance though, buddy on this
pain Now wait a minute, that was her where he
had right here, the one I pointed out before. Let's
see that's Bob all right right there.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
He said, there was something different about this woman?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well there is, But now that I think about it,
any gals, I.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Have to do that?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
You want dye his hair? The victim was positive in
his identification of the photograph. Frank and I pulled a
woman's package. Her true name was Mabel Salton of the
FA thirty six years old, five feet four weigh one
hundred and seventeen.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Pounds, blue eyes, brun her hair.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Her record showed two convictions for Graham theft and arrest
for suspicion of theft the previous June four fifteen pm.
We talked to Johnny de Betta, the officer who made
the June arrest.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, that's right, so and I pulled her in.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
We could make it stick. Why not other victim Garrison?
I did, but we didn't have enough to hold her
on all. She who was introduced to March to a
couple of comment and they did the taking. We couldn't
prove that she was in at a sucker hadn't given
her the money, you know, wouldn't cop body. She's a looker,
not a talker. I hadn't know at tackle the guy
anytime in a day like that. Once he decided to
keep her mouth shut, you can't get it open with
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the pair pliers. What a lot of the guys she
was working with, a couple of brothers. Don't remember the
names they used off hand. It's in the file zone.
And he leads to him a description.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
M We put out a local and APB.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
We couldn't turn the month before. They must have skipped time.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I see they had a tail for a while.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
I see if she lead us to him, you know nowhere.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
That's where we ended up pay back in La.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
They were last week. Make another pigeon, you know, and
I hope.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
You have better luck than we did.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
They was going to need it, so it moved on.
It won't be very easy to catch up with jo.
They got a lot of traveling money for forty thousand
and I put out a local and an APB on
the two male setsspecs.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
We also put out a bullet.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
On a female suspect, Mabel Saltan, but we requested.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
That in her case no arrest be made.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
We asked to be contacted in the event that she
was located from Johnny to better We learned that the
Saltan woman had also meant the previous victim of an auction.
Auctionnaires and owners of auction houses were told to note
bias if they saw the suspect.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
We talked to the.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Manager of the apartment where the male suspects had lived,
and to checked the clerk at the Count George Hotel
and were unable to help us. We contacted Las Vegas
and learned that the Chateau Lafayette was an excellent financial condition.
We also contacted CIP at Sacklement of us see if
they could give us my dentification of the male suspects.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
We received a negative response. No new leads developed.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Five weeks passed Wednesday, October nineteenth, nine forty six am
Uncle budget of Friday, Yes, sir, that's right when I see,
thank you very much. Today in your auction house out
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on Third Street, auctioneer says he sold a couple of
lamps to an old customer last night, oh Mabel's Fulton.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Ten.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I was seven am thrank and I drove out to
the Tenture auction gallery on West Third. We showed the
auctioneer mug shot up Mabel Saltan, and we said he
was positive he was the woman who had seen the
previous night.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
We went back to the option at a conference.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
With a skipper.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You're sure pick an aup won't do any good I
did before then?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, of course this might not work either. We don't
even know if our pals are back in town.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
How do you planning to make the contact?
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Hang out of auctions, do a lot of bidding. Let
her think I'm loaded.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
I don't know, maybe be better if Smith went on
because of this time, he looks more like a mark
for me.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Well wait a minute, skiprint.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Well, no, I'm afraid of using Smith wouldive.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Us a problem?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Cat yeah saying another whether at a picture?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Hm?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
That ishy, No, it's the trouble he Smith's got a wife.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Arrangements were made.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
For me to assume the name of Joe Fassett. I
took a room at a hotel and probably wouldn't establish
myself as a business man resent and arrived from Chicago.
Auction houses were told that I would be bidding on
various items, and if my bid was accepted, the item
was to be reauctioned at some future date and any
loss in courd would be made good. During the next week,
I attended four auctions. The woman's suspect Naval Saltan was
present of two of them. Thursday, October twenty seventh, nine
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forty two pm, I attended the fifth auction. It was
at the Pincher Galleries. I managed to get a seat
next to the suspect.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Twenty five dollars three who laer third, you're like this
to one hundred dollars in retail store.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Honky five, hold dear first three. I'll forget, ladies and gentlemen,
this is never one of the battle America's most flag
that this is normal restless. You've all seen her thus
de fines.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
On the screen.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Here's your chance to buy one of her personal possessions.
And don't forget whether it was not federal.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
No white, who'll get thirty thirty?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Here? I only wants that by five?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Good for you take await news if you really want it,
it doesn't matter how much to me.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
So that's the kind of I at that thirty five
pretty by wait? Wait, and now, ladies is jeff?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh, it was not a thankful that my dead gone?
Should I forget it?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Any way?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I contained it back?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Nobody let me find your drink after the raption.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
No, that isn't I didn't know you want that there anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I'd like to walk.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
And then I said, Lisa, it's not a bit you've
got a customer part, Oh my boy, saying.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Haven't you somebody lether say a couple of I thought
you loved familiar.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Come to think of it, I remember the things you die?
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (15:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Very good?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Take thank you.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
I just loved to die.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of course I always end up buying a lot of
things I don't need.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Well, that happens to me too.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And afterwards you saw ton foolish. But there's nothing you
can move. I run it's too late. Same here, I
have something from the COmON.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You don't want to stay it fossils, No fossis.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I'm on it smooth. How you do?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Very nice to see to fine.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
No, the pleasure is all mine. Eleven sixteen pm we
left the Oxygen.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Drove over to the suspects.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Apartment was on the second floor or two story buildings.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Stop Olympic Boulevard.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Guy's got over there.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Joe, you will take charge for.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I get out of my trout.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
You're better.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Doctor bourbon.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It doesn't matter whatever you're having.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Hey, the I saw mounded now there was a little
left here.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm really ato glad you could drop by.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Don made you drink?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Star life.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's the way I like it.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I don't sit down.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Sure there's your home, Joe, Well, I really don't have
one yet.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I got a hotel room over in Hollywood. I've been
staying there for the last.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Few days about all these things you've been buying.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Off of my new place.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It doesn't come out ask so yet something. We'll stay
hurry up, let me move in brol.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
I know I'm maybe getting too much stuff. I don't
know what you need to furnish your house.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Well, isn't your wife?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I mean, oh, I'm not married more or not any more?
I see we broke up five a year ago.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Funny, Okay, that's.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
When it happened to me just a year ago. That's so,
maybe we have a little too much in common.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, she heard, she didn't she?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Jill? Well, I didn't see it in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You're very sad, eyes soft and thoughtful.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I guess you can tell a lot about Christs in
your eyes.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
You do.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It's the first thing I noticed about somebody. What did
you notice, Joe?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Well, I guess I never thought too much about.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Tell you true? What'd you know a space with me? Well? Oh,
I guess it was your voice.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Oh, you know, when you were bidding. I think that's
what I know is first.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I don't know whether that's a compliment or not.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Well, you have a very pleasant voice, moner, very pleasant church.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Didn't think so who my husband? Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You said, I find a nagged and.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
They last miserable for him?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Why do you split up?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
This didn't work out?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
You think I ever tried again?
Speaker 7 (18:19):
One? No, it's pretty hard to say.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
There's lots of people make mistakes.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You need a freshener.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
No, I have plenty here.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It takes you up. Yes, please, I don't drink very much,
do you No, I just don't feel like it tonight.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
No.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Is it the company? No, of course not. I'm sorry.
If I was sort of fortune into taking me home.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
I don't be silly.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I just thought, didn't you didn't look very happy, and
I thought.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Maybe we both needed to be with someone else for ching.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Sure thinks long into what's there? What's your business?
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Well?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Nothing right now? I guess you want to say.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
I'm unemployed.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I had a company on my own back in Chicago,
Textell Manufacturing.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I sold it when we split up.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
That he can do now?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Oh, I'm sort of looking around. I got a little cash,
and let's step by on the right thing turns up.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I guess I might go into it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I suppose it's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
To tell what to put your money into nowadays.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, well there's nor.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You know that reminds me if you really do want
to get into something good. Yeah, I know a couple
of businessmen, close friends or anything like that, but they
have some excellent contact. I'm sure they could put you
into something that would give you a nice return on
your investment.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
You know you wouldn't do any harm to talk to him, I.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Said, you can't write now, why not?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
They're out of town.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Too bad, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Yeah, sure is, the Salt woman told me. She let
me know as soon as her friends returned to Los Angeles.
During the next ten days, I saw on several occasions,
far as I could tell, the so called Bottom Brothers
were still out of town. Tuesday, November eighth, a forty PM,
(20:11):
I was in my hotel room. Hello, yes, man, well
how about tonight? Sure, I'll pick yup by nine thirty five?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Bye?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
You want to get me in Michigan five two one
one please, that's right? Extension two five seven to two.
That's right, sension two five to seven to two.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Smith there, said Joe.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Yeah, I just heard from her over to betam of
him stand by tonight, says they just blew into town.
Over the phone, the Saltan woman had told me her
two business acquaintances had returned to Los Angeles.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I was to meet him that night.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Frank him Johnny the betterment arrangements to tail my car.
Nine twenty eight pm.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I picked up the female suspect.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
She told me her friends had rooms in the Saint
Clair Hotel over on Figueroa. We go over there. It
was nine forty two when we arrived. We went up
to room four seventeens. She introduced me to two men
who matched the description of the male suspects we were
looking for.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
They said their names were Tom and Fred Porst.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Sure, it's nice to meet you, mister Possitt. Vaughan has
been telling us about you. It seems you've made.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Quite a hit with her, So she told me about
you fellas too. Now you've got to understand one thing.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
What's that anything we discussed in the business line that is, well,
it's got to be confidential for sure. You see, my
brother and I we don't make a practice at taking
outside of vestments, right Fred. As a matter of fact,
we don't even need any outside capital.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
But at the moment we've sort of got a surplus. Oh,
I said, well maybe some other time, you know, nice
to mett it.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Well, what's your hurry forces?
Speaker 9 (22:07):
Well you said that, I said, we don't need any gap,
you know. Well we might make an exception in your case.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Though, Oh on a kind of moon.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I want you to put yourself down on something else
will turn up.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Now wait a minute, I was just thinking, what's that? Well,
it never hurts. The spread a good thing around. Have
you got any plans for this Saturday?
Speaker 9 (22:28):
I don't know what you in mind. While I thought
it might flight down to Vegas, get us a couple
of girls. You can bring a lot mona. Why they Oh,
we got a friend down there and made it killing
at the craft tables a couple.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Of years ago. Stuck in tars and not a bill.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Oh now you sort of forgot to mention it on
his income tax and now he could use the loop,
but he's afraid to cash in the bills himself.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Yeah, I see.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
He might be willing to sell him to us at
a discount. Are you interested?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Not very Why not old con game like that?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Why?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
But this is the best you can do.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
The thousand dollars bill Routines got whiskers on it. I
should have known what are you talking?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Uh? How would you know? This was fussing? What are
you doing here anyway? Why do you want to meet us?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I was kind of curious about how you boys work.
I heard a lot about you, but maybe I could
take up a new angle or two.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Looks like I was.
Speaker 10 (23:13):
Wrong, don't you see? He was just checking up on
our pitch. Well he's a con man too. Oh, you
really pulled them on this time.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I'm thinking the profram.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It just one look.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You should have been able to do play this and
those on your face it is sure. Don't take it
to hight buddy.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
You might pull the.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Suckers, but I'm in the same record.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
I should have guessed it when you walked in the door.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Its written all over you.
Speaker 10 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well you've been pitching lately.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
For the hall.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I'm a police officer. You're under arrest. The scar you
heard is cool. The names were chained to protect the innocents.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
On February, second trial was held in Department ninety eighth
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
In a moment the results of that trial, Mabel.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Harris Saltan was tried and convicted of grand theft one
count and received sentence as prescribed by law. Thomas Herbert
porste and Fred James force dalias Phillip and Steve Bonham
were tried and convicted of grand theft two counts and
received sentences prescribed by law. Grand theft is punishable by
imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year,
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or in the state prison for not less than one
nor more than ten years.
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned the Bunco Fugitive Details.
A man tells you he's been taken for a large
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sum of money. He thinks it with a swindle.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Your job brought it down.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The documented drummer of an actual crime. For the next
thirty minutes, in cooperation of the Los Angeles Police Department, you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Will travel step by step on the side of the
law through.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
An actual case transcribed to official police.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Finds, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet
is the story of your police force in action.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Oh, it was Monday, September twelfth. Was hot in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
We were working a day watch out of Bunco Fugitive Detail.
My partner Frank Smith, the boss's captain Gideon. My name
is Friday. I was on my way back from communications.
That was two seventeen PM when I got the room.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thirty eight Bunco Fugitive Oh, hi Joe.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
How right I get it?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Uncle Fugitive Friday. Yes, that's right. Who well onced you
see him last?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
So how much was it? How much? Al right, sir,
we'll be here well right away if I were you alright?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Fine?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Fellas coming in to talk to us, Yeah, says he
gave a friend he gets forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Oh, kind of broke up their friendship.
Speaker 7 (01:48):
What do I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The guy skipped out?
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Two forty two pm, the man who had telephone came
into the office.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
He told us that his name was Jeff Crainer. He
said he had a.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Real estate business on Wilsha Boulevard and that his home
residence was on Rossmore near Olympic.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
He also said that on the previous Tuesday had given.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Him forty thousand dollars to a man who called himself
Philip Bonham.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You know where this Fello Bonham lives, mister Tranny, I
don't know where he used to live. Where is that?
A pipman out in Westward?
Speaker 8 (02:20):
Real fancy be savings, lots of glass swimming for the
whole works.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
He's not there anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
A manager of the building says he moved last two
day day.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I gave Phill the money.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Whose day, uh? Fill and his brother had the place together.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
What's the brother's name?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Steve?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Does the manager of any idea.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Where they went well, claims they didn't leave any forwarding address.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just shure go.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
How long have you known the bottom of mister trainer?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
H sixth rat reach and I.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Japped to meet up a thrill friend, the mutual friends,
What would you tell us about it?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, well, it's not gonna come out, is it a
newspapers anything like that?
Speaker 7 (02:58):
You know what he means?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, you see, I'm I'm married. Yeh uh.
Speaker 8 (03:03):
We hadn't been getting along so well for the last
year or so, but I'm still married. M The way
I met up with the Bottoms.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You see it through a girl. You know what was
her name? Barbara?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Barbara whizzed?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh she oh, just a girl I saw.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Maybe she was in on her too, I I don't know. Anyway,
she introduced me to him, but I already known her.
Oh uh, but three months.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
Maybe a few weeks before I left there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Let me see, we got acquainted that an auction one
of those houses out in Beverly Boulevard. Will they sell
off furniture and things from movie stars houses.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Used to spend a lot of my free evenings at
those auctions.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
There wasn't any point to staying home.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
Not my wife feeling towards me way she died. I
didn't buy much's just a piece of her once in
a while.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
It looked like a barnain.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
And that's where you met this woman.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
In Yes, yes, so was she living you know? Uh
had a room in the hotwn in Hollywood to count George.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Or so go aheads know what hap next?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, we got to be pretty good friends, and one
night she offered to put me in touch with a
couple of guys she knew.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
He said they were interested in buying some real estate
and that I might as well handle the deal.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well that's how I met up with the Bottoms. Yes,
we went out to their apartment there having a little party.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
A couple more girls were there on.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
A Friday night.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I guess we all got kind of loaded.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Next thing I knew, we were all flying down.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
To Vegas for the weekend. Well, we sure had quite
a time for ourselves.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Stopped one of the best hotels, Chatau Lafayette. Everybody making
a big fuss, but the Bottoms were vp.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
After that, we had some deals together, most of them
worked out.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Whenever they didn't.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
The Bottoms took care of me anyhow, What kind of deals,
its creded. I guess maybe they weren't well strictly ethical,
but there wasn't anything illegal about it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
You've got to cut a couple of corners if you're
going to get ahead in this world.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I get a little tired of the sergeant. Sir, you
act like I'm at Paul, like I'm the one who's
in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You remember it was me that got swiddled and forty.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Thousand dollars worth.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm not the criminal.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
They are sure you want to tell us about the
forty thousand criminal.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
If you're all through with these accusations, go ahead, all right.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was the last Tuesday, so Bonham called me at
my office.
Speaker 8 (05:25):
They had to see me right away about a proposition
or a really big one.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
We met for lunch.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Bonham said they just had word from one of their
contacts in Las Vegas. A couple of Eastern gamblers at
tapped the casino with a Chateau Lafayette for a quarter
of a million dollars. Now the Chatou needed some money,
and they needed it fast, so the owners were willing
to sell a five percent interest in the hotel for
one hundred thousand our Phil said it was a sinister
we'd get our investment back inside of six months, and
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from then on it was just graty.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
Everybody knows how much.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Those hotels in Las Vegas may.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So you gave him the money.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
He drew it out of the bank that afternoon, had
to be in cash.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Said, you know the denominations of the bill, they're all hundreds.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Then I went back to the office.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
And the Bottoms took off for Las Vegas. At least
that's what they were supposed to do. They said they'd
call me from there. But when I still hadn't anything
by Friday, I went over to their apartment and talked.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
To the manager. He said they'd moved out two of
he at five pm.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
Why didn't you get in touch with us then?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It didn't seem like crooks, not a bit.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
What were they like?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, why would you describe him for us?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Well, Phillip's the oldest.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
There's about forty five and a light hair complexion, Cobbages
called about six foot man.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Thin, sort of rangers. What about his brother?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Ste's maybe thirty four years younger, a.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Little shorter, not much though, little heavy.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
What colors is there reddish. The girl who introduced you
to him. He said her name was Barbara wist.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
Yes, that's right. How do you spell that?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Wit? Wanna describe her to what's pretty hard to say?
Oh she is.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
She's not very good at.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Judging the woman's aide.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Well approximately then oh twenty eight, twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Thirty could could even be thirty five mm one.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Real white streak across the front. Very attractive, good company,
nice build. Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Have you tried to get in touch with it?
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Since you saw the Bonhoms last That's how I called
a hotel. Well, she moved out last Tuesday morning.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, how are you supposed to know for who to trust? They?
They were so darn nice to me, the Bonhoms and
barber there.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
There wasn't any way of figuring that what they were
after they like you say that they were just kind
of setting me up.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But you had a tip off? Yes, well, where when
you thought you were getting something for nothing?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
The o eight pm we remained Philip and Steve Bomb
and Barbara wist Y and I.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
They had nothing on him.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
We went back to the office and showed to take
the mug shots of known confidence man.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
He was unable to identify any.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Of the photographs. Three thirty two pm. We showed him
mugs of competence women.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
No, not on that page.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
So uh huh, said who my? Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
My wife won't find out about all this work.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
She not from us.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We hadn't been getting along quite a while, but now
you know she she just wouldn't understand. Funny, aren't they?
Speaker 7 (08:38):
How's that?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Women? Even if they won't have anything to do with
it themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
They just don't want another day and move over?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Ana want to go on to the next page. Oh yeah, sure,
same say, Now, yeah, that looks like her?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Well is it?
Speaker 6 (08:59):
No?
Speaker 7 (09:00):
I guess not.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
There's something different there. Show's resemblance though, buddy on this
pain Now wait a minute, that was her where he
had right here, the one I pointed out before. Let's
see that's Bob all right right there.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
He said, there was something different about this woman?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Well there is, But now that I think about it,
any gals, I.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Have to do that?
Speaker 6 (09:26):
You want dye his hair? The victim was positive in
his identification of the photograph. Frank and I pulled a
woman's package. Her true name was Mabel Salton of the
FA thirty six years old, five feet four weigh one
hundred and seventeen.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Pounds, blue eyes, brun her hair.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Her record showed two convictions for Graham theft and arrest
for suspicion of theft the previous June four fifteen pm.
We talked to Johnny de Betta, the officer who made
the June arrest.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, that's right, so and I pulled her in.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
We could make it stick. Why not other victim Garrison?
I did, but we didn't have enough to hold her
on all. She who was introduced to March to a
couple of comment and they did the taking. We couldn't
prove that she was in at a sucker hadn't given
her the money, you know, wouldn't cop body. She's a looker,
not a talker. I hadn't know at tackle the guy
anytime in a day like that. Once he decided to
keep her mouth shut, you can't get it open with
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the pair pliers. What a lot of the guys she
was working with, a couple of brothers. Don't remember the
names they used off hand. It's in the file zone.
And he leads to him a description.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
M We put out a local and APB.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
We couldn't turn the month before. They must have skipped time.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I see they had a tail for a while.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
I see if she lead us to him, you know nowhere.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
That's where we ended up pay back in La.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
They were last week. Make another pigeon, you know, and
I hope.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
You have better luck than we did.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
They was going to need it, so it moved on.
It won't be very easy to catch up with jo.
They got a lot of traveling money for forty thousand
and I put out a local and an APB on
the two male setsspecs.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
We also put out a bullet.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
On a female suspect, Mabel Saltan, but we requested.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
That in her case no arrest be made.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
We asked to be contacted in the event that she
was located from Johnny to better We learned that the
Saltan woman had also meant the previous victim of an auction.
Auctionnaires and owners of auction houses were told to note
bias if they saw the suspect.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
We talked to the.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Manager of the apartment where the male suspects had lived,
and to checked the clerk at the Count George Hotel
and were unable to help us. We contacted Las Vegas
and learned that the Chateau Lafayette was an excellent financial condition.
We also contacted CIP at Sacklement of us see if
they could give us my dentification of the male suspects.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
We received a negative response. No new leads developed.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Five weeks passed Wednesday, October nineteenth, nine forty six am
Uncle budget of Friday, Yes, sir, that's right when I see,
thank you very much. Today in your auction house out
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on Third Street, auctioneer says he sold a couple of
lamps to an old customer last night, oh Mabel's Fulton.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Ten.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I was seven am thrank and I drove out to
the Tenture auction gallery on West Third. We showed the
auctioneer mug shot up Mabel Saltan, and we said he
was positive he was the woman who had seen the
previous night.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
We went back to the option at a conference.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
With a skipper.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
You're sure pick an aup won't do any good I
did before then?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, of course this might not work either. We don't
even know if our pals are back in town.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
How do you planning to make the contact?
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Hang out of auctions, do a lot of bidding. Let
her think I'm loaded.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
I don't know, maybe be better if Smith went on
because of this time, he looks more like a mark
for me.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Well wait a minute, skiprint.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Well, no, I'm afraid of using Smith wouldive.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Us a problem?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Cat yeah saying another whether at a picture?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Hm?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
That ishy, No, it's the trouble he Smith's got a wife.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Arrangements were made.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
For me to assume the name of Joe Fassett. I
took a room at a hotel and probably wouldn't establish
myself as a business man resent and arrived from Chicago.
Auction houses were told that I would be bidding on
various items, and if my bid was accepted, the item
was to be reauctioned at some future date and any
loss in courd would be made good. During the next week,
I attended four auctions. The woman's suspect Naval Saltan was
present of two of them. Thursday, October twenty seventh, nine
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forty two pm, I attended the fifth auction. It was
at the Pincher Galleries. I managed to get a seat
next to the suspect.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Twenty five dollars three who laer third, you're like this
to one hundred dollars in retail store.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Honky five, hold dear first three. I'll forget, ladies and gentlemen,
this is never one of the battle America's most flag
that this is normal restless. You've all seen her thus
de fines.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
On the screen.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Here's your chance to buy one of her personal possessions.
And don't forget whether it was not federal.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
No white, who'll get thirty thirty?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Here? I only wants that by five?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Good for you take await news if you really want it,
it doesn't matter how much to me.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
So that's the kind of I at that thirty five
pretty by wait? Wait, and now, ladies is jeff?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Oh, it was not a thankful that my dead gone?
Should I forget it?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Any way?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I contained it back?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Nobody let me find your drink after the raption.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
No, that isn't I didn't know you want that there anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I'd like to walk.
Speaker 9 (14:55):
And then I said, Lisa, it's not a bit you've
got a customer part, Oh my boy, saying.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Haven't you somebody lether say a couple of I thought
you loved familiar.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Come to think of it, I remember the things you die?
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (15:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Very good?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Take thank you.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
I just loved to die.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Of course I always end up buying a lot of
things I don't need.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Well, that happens to me too.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And afterwards you saw ton foolish. But there's nothing you
can move. I run it's too late. Same here, I
have something from the COmON.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You don't want to stay it fossils, No fossis.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I'm on it smooth. How you do?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Very nice to see to fine.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
No, the pleasure is all mine. Eleven sixteen pm we
left the Oxygen.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Drove over to the suspects.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Apartment was on the second floor or two story buildings.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Stop Olympic Boulevard.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Guy's got over there.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Joe, you will take charge for.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I get out of my trout.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
You're better.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Doctor bourbon.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It doesn't matter whatever you're having.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Hey, the I saw mounded now there was a little
left here.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm really ato glad you could drop by.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Don made you drink?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Star life.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
That's the way I like it.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I don't sit down.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Sure there's your home, Joe, Well, I really don't have
one yet.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I got a hotel room over in Hollywood. I've been
staying there for the last.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Few days about all these things you've been buying.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Off of my new place.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
It doesn't come out ask so yet something. We'll stay
hurry up, let me move in brol.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
I know I'm maybe getting too much stuff. I don't
know what you need to furnish your house.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Well, isn't your wife?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I mean, oh, I'm not married more or not any more?
I see we broke up five a year ago.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Funny, Okay, that's.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
When it happened to me just a year ago. That's so,
maybe we have a little too much in common.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, she heard, she didn't she?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Jill? Well, I didn't see it in your eyes.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You're very sad, eyes soft and thoughtful.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I guess you can tell a lot about Christs in
your eyes.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
You do.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It's the first thing I noticed about somebody. What did
you notice, Joe?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Well, I guess I never thought too much about.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Tell you true? What'd you know a space with me? Well? Oh,
I guess it was your voice.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Oh, you know, when you were bidding. I think that's
what I know is first.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I don't know whether that's a compliment or not.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Well, you have a very pleasant voice, moner, very pleasant church.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Didn't think so who my husband? Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You said, I find a nagged and.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
They last miserable for him?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Why do you split up?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
This didn't work out?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
You think I ever tried again?
Speaker 7 (18:19):
One? No, it's pretty hard to say.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
There's lots of people make mistakes.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You need a freshener.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
No, I have plenty here.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It takes you up. Yes, please, I don't drink very much,
do you No, I just don't feel like it tonight.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
No.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Is it the company? No, of course not. I'm sorry.
If I was sort of fortune into taking me home.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
I don't be silly.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I just thought, didn't you didn't look very happy, and
I thought.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Maybe we both needed to be with someone else for ching.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Sure thinks long into what's there? What's your business?
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Well?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Nothing right now? I guess you want to say.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
I'm unemployed.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
I had a company on my own back in Chicago,
Textell Manufacturing.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I sold it when we split up.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
That he can do now?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Oh, I'm sort of looking around. I got a little cash,
and let's step by on the right thing turns up.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
I guess I might go into it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I suppose it's hard.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
To tell what to put your money into nowadays.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, well there's nor.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You know that reminds me if you really do want
to get into something good. Yeah, I know a couple
of businessmen, close friends or anything like that, but they
have some excellent contact. I'm sure they could put you
into something that would give you a nice return on
your investment.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
You know you wouldn't do any harm to talk to him, I.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Said, you can't write now, why not?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
They're out of town.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Too bad, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Yeah, sure is, the Salt woman told me. She let
me know as soon as her friends returned to Los Angeles.
During the next ten days, I saw on several occasions,
far as I could tell, the so called Bottom Brothers
were still out of town. Tuesday, November eighth, a forty PM,
(20:11):
I was in my hotel room. Hello, yes, man, well
how about tonight? Sure, I'll pick yup by nine thirty five?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Bye?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
You want to get me in Michigan five two one
one please, that's right? Extension two five seven to two.
That's right, sension two five to seven to two.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Smith there, said Joe.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Yeah, I just heard from her over to betam of
him stand by tonight, says they just blew into town.
Over the phone, the Saltan woman had told me her
two business acquaintances had returned to Los Angeles.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I was to meet him that night.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Frank him Johnny the betterment arrangements to tail my car.
Nine twenty eight pm.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I picked up the female suspect.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
She told me her friends had rooms in the Saint
Clair Hotel over on Figueroa. We go over there. It
was nine forty two when we arrived. We went up
to room four seventeens. She introduced me to two men
who matched the description of the male suspects we were
looking for.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
They said their names were Tom and Fred Porst.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Sure, it's nice to meet you, mister Possitt. Vaughan has
been telling us about you. It seems you've made.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Quite a hit with her, So she told me about
you fellas too. Now you've got to understand one thing.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
What's that anything we discussed in the business line that is, well,
it's got to be confidential for sure. You see, my
brother and I we don't make a practice at taking
outside of vestments, right Fred. As a matter of fact,
we don't even need any outside capital.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
But at the moment we've sort of got a surplus. Oh,
I said, well maybe some other time, you know, nice
to mett it.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Well, what's your hurry forces?
Speaker 9 (22:07):
Well you said that, I said, we don't need any gap,
you know. Well we might make an exception in your case.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Though, Oh on a kind of moon.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I want you to put yourself down on something else
will turn up.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Now wait a minute, I was just thinking, what's that? Well,
it never hurts. The spread a good thing around. Have
you got any plans for this Saturday?
Speaker 9 (22:28):
I don't know what you in mind. While I thought
it might flight down to Vegas, get us a couple
of girls. You can bring a lot mona. Why they Oh,
we got a friend down there and made it killing
at the craft tables a couple.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Of years ago. Stuck in tars and not a bill.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Oh now you sort of forgot to mention it on
his income tax and now he could use the loop,
but he's afraid to cash in the bills himself.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Yeah, I see.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
He might be willing to sell him to us at
a discount. Are you interested?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Not very Why not old con game like that?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Why?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
But this is the best you can do.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
The thousand dollars bill Routines got whiskers on it. I
should have known what are you talking?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Uh? How would you know? This was fussing? What are
you doing here anyway? Why do you want to meet us?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I was kind of curious about how you boys work.
I heard a lot about you, but maybe I could
take up a new angle or two.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Looks like I was.
Speaker 10 (23:13):
Wrong, don't you see? He was just checking up on
our pitch. Well he's a con man too. Oh, you
really pulled them on this time.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I'm thinking the profram.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It just one look.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You should have been able to do play this and
those on your face it is sure. Don't take it
to hight buddy.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
You might pull the.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Suckers, but I'm in the same record.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
I should have guessed it when you walked in the door.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Its written all over you.
Speaker 10 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Well you've been pitching lately.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
For the hall.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I'm a police officer. You're under arrest. The scar you
heard is cool. The names were chained to protect the innocents.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
On February, second trial was held in Department ninety eighth
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
In a moment the results of that trial, Mabel.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Harris Saltan was tried and convicted of grand theft one
count and received sentence as prescribed by law. Thomas Herbert
porste and Fred James force dalias Phillip and Steve Bonham
were tried and convicted of grand theft two counts and
received sentences prescribed by law. Grand theft is punishable by
imprisonment in the county jail for not more than one year,
(24:41):
or in the state prison for not less than one
nor more than ten years.
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