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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Dragnet.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, the story you're about to hear is true.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
a detective sergeant. You're assigned a juvenile detail. A woman
reports that a teenage boy has been stealing food from
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her home.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
She says she's seen him several times.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Your job.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Dragnt the document a drama of an actual crime. For
the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
side of the law through an actual case transcribed from
official police violence. From beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It was Tuesday, April twelve. It was warm in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
We were working the day watch out of Juvenile Detail.
My partner's Frank Smith, the boss's Captain Powers.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I was on my way into the office and it
was seven fifty seven am when I got to the
second floor of Judge Street Juvenile Squad Room.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I don't try to tell me any of the three
hours and like a simple phone call, he was arrested
at one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
This morning. That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I didn't hear about him intil.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
The four My why weren't we contacted immediately?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
My wife was half out of a mind.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
We're sorry about that. Oh morning, Joe, honey, mister Naplis
is my partner. Sis and Friday, how are you? This
is Vincent Net's father, Joe, I see.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We're you went on this thing too, Friday, that's right.
Took both of you to arrest a fifteen year old boy?
Speaker 7 (01:36):
Did they made the arrest together?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Why? I want to be ashamed to admit it.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
Well, just what seems to be the trouble, mister Nap.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
My boy's in jail.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
He's been there all night.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah see, I found out about it a couple of
hours ago. I want to know why I wasn't called
it once?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Well, so we called you as soon as we could.
Your son wasn't carrying any identification. He refused to answer
our questions. We had no way of knowing who to contact,
and he.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Was scared, that's all. You can't blame him for that.
How'd you get his name?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
If you wouldn't tell you, you beat it out of him.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
The other boy we picked up decided to cooperate with him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'll just bet he did. He wanted to shift some
of the blame. My son's done anything at all, ending
he shouldn't. You can be certain that the limmered kids
put him up to it. Vincent doesn't even know what
this is all about. You've talked to him, Hay, Certainly,
he says, it's a.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Mistake, the whole thing. Sure. Oh, I suppose the police
don't make mistakes. I'll make them. I'll say, you do,
and you pulled the beauty this time. It doesn't look
that way to aspect. Oh, don't tell me.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
How it looks.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I know my son. I know when he's telling the truth.
He says, this is a mistake, and I believes I.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Guess you know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'm not gonna make any wild threads to try to
go over your heads, but I want that boy released,
and I want to released it once.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Sorry, sir, we can't do that. I'm being justicipatient as
I can.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
You, sargeon, mister naff we filed a petition on your son.
There will be a predetention hearing in juvenile court as
soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The court will.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Decide what happens to him after that.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's out of our hands.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Now, it wasn't out of your hands last night when
you're arrested him.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That was our job.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Your job is to protect people's rights. You're supposed to
be cops, not bullets.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Take it easy, mister Naffle.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
There's plenty of crime in this time, and plenty of
criminals robberies, killing hallots. Only trouble isn't never gets what saw. Yes,
the police force is too busy man handling youngsters and
chasing bums out.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of freight yard.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
All right, mister n too busy or too scared. You're
afraid to tackle the real gang because you might get hurt.
You'd rather pick on a teenage kid who can't fight back. Cards.
That's what you really are. You're your cards, not policemen.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Let me ask you something.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
If suppose a couple of guys drive into a filling station,
one of them cracks the owner over the head with
a tire iron while the other one cleans out the
cash register, you think we ought to forget about it
or go after him.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I I'm not interested in hypothetical cases. I'm talking about
my shant ahm.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I what do you mean you said you spoke to
the boy, didn't he tell you why he's here.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He said he didn't know.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You think he's mixed up in a filling station robbery?
Is that where you're holding him?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Maybe you better ask him again. I'm asking you. Yes,
that's right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, you better be able to prove it, sir, die
and believe me, you'd just better be able to prove it.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
A woman a closset street from the station saw two
boys drive away.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
She got the license done, doesn't have a car.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
It was young Lemmas you're lopping, But your son was
still whether when we made the arrest.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
That doesn't prove anything. That doesn't proved they were together
at the filling station. There was some other boy, not Vince.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's what your son says. Too.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, then why don't you believe.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Lemmert gave us a different story?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, what do you expect. He doesn't want to take
all the blame. He's in a jam and he wants
some company.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
The woman across the street are sure there were two boys,
mister Neff.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That doesn't make one of them my Vince.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Does she say it was Vince?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Is she willing to squire? Like? No?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What about the owner of the station. Is he identified
my son?
Speaker 7 (04:22):
He can't identify anybody. He's still unconscious.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, I'm sorry for him, of course, but you haven't
got any right to blame Vince.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And you haven't got any evidence against him either.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
We got the tyrant that was using the slugging neth Well,
what about it? We had to check by Lcoln Prince.
Well they found a set.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, they can't be Vince's finger, Prince. They can't be.
I'm afraid they are. No, No, you're you're wrong. You
made a.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Mistake, not this time.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But was sorry, mister Neff.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Why why would Vince do a thing like this? There's
no reason. He's had everything, everything we could give him
different if we were poor, if he didn't get an
allowance every week, there's just no reason.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, sir, I guess he found one.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, I I'm sorry, sorry if I was a little
rough on you.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I better get on home now. His mother O sure
should want to know if he's all right. Oh, I've
there's one thing.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
If he really did this terrible thing, I'm I'm glad
you caught him right away, right after it happened.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now we've got a chance, sir. But it won't happen again.
What do you get there? Mmm? Oh, I didn't realize
it's too I had it with me. What is there?
(06:06):
It's one of those puzzles with numbers you move around
trying to.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Line them up.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Kids brought them home last night. I was showing him
how to work it. I guess I'm stuck in my pocket.
It's really easy job.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There. See, I got them all in order. One. Hmm,
that's funny. Why what's the matter? Nothing? Nothing, I just
had a couple out of sequence. That's all.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, well, give me a minute, can't you, Joe? You've
got three numbers in the wrong place. Joe, I can't
work the puzzle when you're watching me like that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't want to say I got it.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Juvenal Friday, Yes, ma'am, I see.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well do you know the boy? Will you give me
your address? Please? All right?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I haven't what yes, ma'am, we would. Will you be
here all right? Thank you very much. Lady up in
the Hollywood Hills, Eh, some youngster's been stealing groceries out
of her garage.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You know who that is.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
She got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
She almost caught him. Frank and I left the office
and drove out to a hillside address on Edgewood Drive,
two miles north of Hollywood Boulevard. It was nine seventeen
am when we got there.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
Well, there isn't too much to tell. Week ten days
ago I started listening things from the garage here, What
sort of thing can good? I keep an extra supply
on those shelves over there in the corner, But there
wasn't much gone, just a couple of items now and then.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
First I wasn't even certain. I thought maybe I'd.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Used them up myself and forgot about it them. This
morning I saw him was right after Clarence went to work.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well about what time would that be?
Speaker 8 (07:55):
At seven am?
Speaker 9 (07:57):
That's when he leaves, No later than five after doing
up the breakfast dishes, and I heard somebody fussing around
the garage.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
By the time I got to the back door, he
was sneaking off across the yard. I gave a shout
started after him.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
What happened then?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
I guess m' yellen kind of took him by surprise. Anyway,
he turned around and dropped the stuff he was holding.
He sure didn't wait to pick it up, though. He
started off as fast as his legs would carry him.
He had it up the hill there. That was the
last I saw of him.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, now, just what was it? He dropped his room?
Speaker 9 (08:25):
A couple of cans from my groceries in a big
paper bag.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
That's it. They're on the on the stool, and I
have I looked inside. Maybe I shouldn't have, but I
thought it might be some more of my can goods.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's all right. What do you got, yo? Books? Huh?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Books here huh.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Theoretical physics, principles of dynamics, frontiers of molecular structure.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Can make a new tail of him? Myself must be
something he's studying.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yes, his naming him? No, Now they're all from the
Hollywood line. Mary, What if you tell us what he
looks like? This Roman?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yes, I guess so.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
First off, I'd say, looks like books.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
How's it? You know?
Speaker 9 (09:12):
The study is sort of thin and pinched, blondish hair
like complexed About how tall is it?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Mm?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Five beat six or.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
Seven might look taller than he really is on account
of be intocent about how old?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Would you say? It was?
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Fifteen sixteen somewhere in there, just a youngster.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Did you notice his clothes?
Speaker 8 (09:34):
Mm? Had on pants look pretty worn.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And the sweater what about the color?
Speaker 9 (09:38):
The sweater was blue? Pants were too petty to tell. Now,
now I want you to understand one Thing's Friday. Yes, Ma,
I'm not real upset about him taking our food if
he needs it, that is. It just seems to me
there ought to be a better way of going about it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Nobody has to steal is today. The first time you
ever saw this boy was Roman.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Oh no, no, no, no. I've seen him a couple
of times before.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
One or two mornings he walked past the house on
his way down the hill. The other evening I saw
him heading back up. Of course I didn't connect him
with the my missing groceries.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Then I will have a look around. If he just
lives up on the hill, he shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Too hard to find.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Oh no, no, mister Friday, he doesn't live up there.
Nobody does, ma'am. Edge Would Drive gives out a hundred.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Yards beyond us, just around the next curve. Oh, we're
the last house.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Nine thirty two am, Frank and I left missus Roman.
We drove up to the end of edge Would Drive
and we got out of the car.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, she's right, Joe, I say, no place for anybody
live around here. I think you were a way out in.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
The country, you know, h right, huh over there, halfway
up on the slope, or see right behind that tree.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh yeah, what's to look like to you?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Oh? Oh, I guess what. Maybe that's where he set
up housekeeping. Hmm, what are you talking about, Joe? Wouldn't
you ever try when you were a kid? Try what
hiding out in the cave?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
We climbed up the side of the hill about two
hundred yards east of the road.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
We came to a small hole. Behind this opening was
a shallow natural cave. Frank and I crawled inside. The
cave was about eight feet long and four feet wide.
The boy we were looking for was not there, but
there was plenty of evidence that this was where he'd
been living. The sleeping bag was rolled up in one corner.
Beside it was a small supply of canned food. We
found ten or twelve notebooks filled with handwritten mathematical equations,
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and some fifty textbooks on advanced physics or higher mathematics.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
He sure believes in making use of the public library.
He does, and he's about every branch in town. Well,
I suppose there are wrest things that could be reading
Now looks like they aren't all library books. What do
you got, Joe? The couple here with.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Book plates uh owners' names in them. Book Plates in
three of the texts indicated that they were owned by
a person named Carl Wnderman. All the other volumes were
the property of various Los Angeles libraries. We contacted the
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office and made arrangements for another team of juvenile officers
to stake out on the cave. On our way downtown,
we stopped off at the Hollywood Library. We showed the
library and several botumes which belonged to that branch. Her
records indicated that the books had not been checked out.
She had no idea who had taken them or when.
Eleven thirteen am we put out a local with a
boy's description, and we checked the missing persons. As far
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as we could tell, he had not been reported missing.
Eleven forty six am, Frank and I made several calls
to branch libraries. They all said that the books in
question had been removed from their shelves without authorization.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
We checked the phone directors for the name Carl Wnderman.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
At twelve or six pm, we reached him in his
office at Bradfield University.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, sir, I think.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Well at the uf user any time to say, I'd
be fine with that. Yes, sir, well, thank you very much.
That's the right guy, Joe out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Of the physics department.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
You know anything that might help us, Yeah, he knows
the boy.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Four sixteen pm, Frank and I drove out to the
Bradfield campus. We met with doctor Carl Wnderman in his
office on the second floor of the science building.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yes. Yes, I've talked to the boy several times. H
Did you know he had these books of yours? Of
course I loaned him to him.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Honestly, I just happened to meet him doctor.
Speaker 10 (13:44):
It was here at the university. Yes, sir, he came
to see me. He had to write some articles of money.
Wish to discuss him, but it it was not presumptious.
He has a brilliant mind, extraordinary I see. And he
also wished to inquire about enrolling. He asked about a
scholarship he tried to discoverte him for a year or so.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
At least he's very young. Did he say how old
he was? Eighteen? That is what he told me. I'm
afraid that it is not the truth about how old?
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Would you say is perhaps sixteen?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Do you know his names? Him? Peter his last name.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
I suppose he's told me, but I'm afraid I do
not remember the typically absent minded professor.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
What about his family? Did he mention him? No?
Speaker 10 (14:22):
I imagine they are not well to do the way
he was dressed the inquiry about a scholarship?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Did he say where he lives in Los Angeles? That's all? Wait?
Speaker 10 (14:30):
I think he did mention something about uh recently coming
to California from one of the eastern states, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Perhaps you wouldn't know which town, would you?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm sorry. Is there anything else you can tell us
about him, doctor Winderman? Well, I would say he is
a happy boy.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
You say he's unhappy? Yes, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Lonely? Aloof?
Speaker 10 (14:50):
It must be very difficult for him other people, the
children his age, he would be unable to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
They would have nothing in common, even adults. I see.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
A brilliant mind does not necessarily make for a well
adjusted person, especially in one so young.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Well, thank you very much, doctor woman. Leave me one
of our cards if you should hear from HM again.
Would you get in touch with.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
This please, Yes, of course, if there's anything I can
do for Peter. It's very kind of it. Is he
in some kind of trouble, but we don't know yet, Sir.
I did not mean to pry.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Forgive me.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Well, the fact is he's been borrowing some books that
don't belong to him, books, yes, Sir, from libraries around town, to.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Want to read, to want to learn. It's that such
a serious crime. It does not seem like one to me, yes, sir,
And he said, all he's done.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Well, he's taken some other things to food can goods.
Speaker 10 (15:38):
Yes, of course I should have known when he was here.
I should have known, but it has been so long since.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I've seen one, well, said sir. A boy who was hungry.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Frank and I went back to the office. The officer's
on stage got reported that the boy had not returned
to the cave. The steakhout was continued seven forty eight pm.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
He's still fooling with that thing, m oh. I wasn't
even thinking, Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I just happened to reach in my pocket. Let me see.
Did you get him in order? Yet? I wasn't trying, Joe,
I told you I didn't even know I was fooling.
I did it. I wasn't trying.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Yeah, Juvenal Friday, Yeah, uh huh for about.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Okay, we'll be right over. Thank you. Kid walked into a.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Grocery store, walked out without paying for his groceries. Sounded
like our boy stores on the corner of Green Street
and Edgewood. Frank and I drove out to the Hugging
grocery store off the corner.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Of Green and Edgewood eight seventeen pm. We pulled up
and went inside.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I was waiting on another customer.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I didn't pay much attention for the next thing I
knew he was sneaking out the door.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, so what can I do for it?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
We're police officers. This is Frank Smith. My name is Friday.
You from Central That's right, I'm Davis Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
To get a description here, Yeah, my partner's are looking around.
I'll give my hand. Okay, thank you. Say what do
you take care of it for it? Yeah? We will. Thanks. Now,
this ain't no big robbery or anything like that. He
was just a kid, you understand. Yeah, could you tell
us what he looked like? Mister Hugging Andy Hugging the
same as a sign on the window there.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yes, well, like I said, he was a kid teenage
or about halfway?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
How the halfway in his teens, you know, about fifteen
or sixteen? I say, white hair finn on a rail?
How was he? Dresser? Hands, sweater? Let's see? Just what
do you take from your store? Was hugging? Well?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I couldn't say for certain. I wouldn't have known he
took anything if it hadn't dropped out from under his
sweat when he was sneaking out the door.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
You know, can of corned beef, that's what he was
a fellow? Did you see which way he went out
the door? Up the street?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Told the other I guess they're after him, Yes, sir,
I don't know whether I doesn't write or huh?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
How's that in important?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I expect it seems like a lot of fuss about
a few groceries. Lcer trouble it is you let one
of them get away with something like this.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The news gets around the next thing, you know, the
stores full of them. You know, the kids try to steal.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Your blind I said, we understand, where's no plague of locus?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Sergeant, Yeah, him out in the car, But we got it.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
The patrol car officers had found a boy hiding in
an alley a few blocks west of the grocery store.
We transferred him to our vehicle and drove him down
to Georgia Street. Ninety six pm. We took him up
the interrogation room for questioning.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
So out say, all right, now you want to tell
us about it? About what? Well, let's start with your name.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Well, Paul, Paul what Jones?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You sure about that? I don't know my own name?
Yeah you should. Where do you live, Paul?
Speaker 7 (19:11):
San Diego?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
What are you doing in La? It's looking around that song?
What's your address? Then? Huh? In San Diego? What's your address?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
I don't know you know your name, but you don't
know where you live?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Only moved to California a few weeks ago? You lived
with your folks? Sure they have a telephone. Well, what's
father's name? Bill? Bill Jones?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
How long you've been in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Son? Just today?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Just today?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Get hiked in this morning? Did you ever hear of
a man named Carl Linderman? Who you see?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
I look, Pete, you're not doing yourself any goodyear?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Do you know what I said? My name's Paul? Well,
I just steal that stuff from the grocery store.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
So, I don't know what kind of an answer is
that you're in trouble. Pete's serious trouble, Emma.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
All right, you won't.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Tell us, We'll tell you. You didn't come to Los
Angeles today. You've been here for a couple of weeks.
You've been living in a cave up in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Yeah, and this grocery store tonight isn't the first time
you've gotten out of line.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Why'd you take all those books?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
On?
Speaker 10 (20:10):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Books?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Just shows you how much these college professors really know?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Huh?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Like that doctor Winderman, he says you're a smart kid.
You got a real good head on your shoulders. Wow,
it's pretty poor judge of Breens, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know about it? Now?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He's so far ahead of you, guys thought you never
heard of him. All right, now, Pete, let's quit fooling around.
Let's have it straight, all of it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What do you want? Your name is in Paul Jones? Now,
what is it? Silent? Pete Syler?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, where's your home?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You found it? I didn't mean that cave. You're a
real home. I don't know. You used to live with
my sists back in Philly. Well, what happened if you
got married? Do me out? What about your folks? They're dead?
What theck you doing? Mm hmm that thing, it's just
a puzzle. Huh.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
They're supposed to line up the numbers once we're fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, okay, you want to try it? Is that all?
Just line him up? Sure? Now? What? Oh? I said?
I guess?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh why did you come out to California?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Peak? Wanted to go to college though maybe I could
study physics.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Did you finish high school?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Not the history in English? Party? What do you mean?
Science and math? I finished them a couple of years
ago when I was a kid. Just how old are you? Sixteen? Almost?
Be harder if you didn't look at it. Huh, that's puzzle. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Let the guy see the first so he knows just
where the numbers are. Oh yeah, didn't make him working
with his hands behind his back for memory. Uh, be
harder that way, Yeah, I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Go ahead and mix some money.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Okay, I thought you were gonna memorize it first.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Take a look. I get them right. Yeah, it's harder
that way though.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
All right, Pete, Now let's go back to it. Why'd
you take all those books?
Speaker 11 (22:15):
I wanted to study him. I was gonna return him
when I was through. I couldn't get a library card.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Now I without a real address.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
What about the can good you've been stealing?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
It wasn't much, just enough to eat. What's gonna happen
to me? Now, well, that's not up to us. Huh.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
What do you think gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, I don't know, but I don't see where I
did anything so wrong. You're doing it? Well did I?
You stole books? You stole food? Because there's a lot
of trouble.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, well you're the wizards math, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Huh? You added up.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you've just heard is true.
The names were jack aimed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
On April sixteenth, the hearing was held in Juvenile Court
the State of California in and for the County of
Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Peter L.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Siler was made Award of the Juvenile Court and was
placed in a foster home. Through the efforts of doctor
Carl Windermann, he was permitted to enroll in Bradfield University
as a special student in the field of Higher mathematics
and physics.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
You have just heard Dragnet, The Authentic Story of your
Police Force in action and starring Jack Webb, a presentation
of the United States Armed Forces Radio Service
Speaker 1 (24:00):
About FO
Dragnet.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, the story you're about to hear is true.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
a detective sergeant. You're assigned a juvenile detail. A woman
reports that a teenage boy has been stealing food from
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her home.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
She says she's seen him several times.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Your job.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Dragnt the document a drama of an actual crime. For
the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
side of the law through an actual case transcribed from
official police violence. From beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It was Tuesday, April twelve. It was warm in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
We were working the day watch out of Juvenile Detail.
My partner's Frank Smith, the boss's Captain Powers.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I was on my way into the office and it
was seven fifty seven am when I got to the
second floor of Judge Street Juvenile Squad Room.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I don't try to tell me any of the three
hours and like a simple phone call, he was arrested
at one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
This morning. That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I didn't hear about him intil.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
The four My why weren't we contacted immediately?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
My wife was half out of a mind.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
We're sorry about that. Oh morning, Joe, honey, mister Naplis
is my partner. Sis and Friday, how are you? This
is Vincent Net's father, Joe, I see.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
We're you went on this thing too, Friday, that's right.
Took both of you to arrest a fifteen year old boy?
Speaker 7 (01:36):
Did they made the arrest together?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Why? I want to be ashamed to admit it.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
Well, just what seems to be the trouble, mister Nap.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
My boy's in jail.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
He's been there all night.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah see, I found out about it a couple of
hours ago. I want to know why I wasn't called
it once?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Well, so we called you as soon as we could.
Your son wasn't carrying any identification. He refused to answer
our questions. We had no way of knowing who to contact,
and he.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Was scared, that's all. You can't blame him for that.
How'd you get his name?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
If you wouldn't tell you, you beat it out of him.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
The other boy we picked up decided to cooperate with him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'll just bet he did. He wanted to shift some
of the blame. My son's done anything at all, ending
he shouldn't. You can be certain that the limmered kids
put him up to it. Vincent doesn't even know what
this is all about. You've talked to him, Hay, Certainly,
he says, it's a.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Mistake, the whole thing. Sure. Oh, I suppose the police
don't make mistakes. I'll make them. I'll say, you do,
and you pulled the beauty this time. It doesn't look
that way to aspect. Oh, don't tell me.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
How it looks.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I know my son. I know when he's telling the truth.
He says, this is a mistake, and I believes I.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Guess you know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'm not gonna make any wild threads to try to
go over your heads, but I want that boy released,
and I want to released it once.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Sorry, sir, we can't do that. I'm being justicipatient as
I can.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
You, sargeon, mister naff we filed a petition on your son.
There will be a predetention hearing in juvenile court as
soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The court will.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Decide what happens to him after that.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's out of our hands.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Now, it wasn't out of your hands last night when
you're arrested him.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That was our job.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Your job is to protect people's rights. You're supposed to
be cops, not bullets.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
Take it easy, mister Naffle.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
There's plenty of crime in this time, and plenty of
criminals robberies, killing hallots. Only trouble isn't never gets what saw. Yes,
the police force is too busy man handling youngsters and
chasing bums out.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of freight yard.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
All right, mister n too busy or too scared. You're
afraid to tackle the real gang because you might get hurt.
You'd rather pick on a teenage kid who can't fight back. Cards.
That's what you really are. You're your cards, not policemen.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Let me ask you something.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
If suppose a couple of guys drive into a filling station,
one of them cracks the owner over the head with
a tire iron while the other one cleans out the
cash register, you think we ought to forget about it
or go after him.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I I'm not interested in hypothetical cases. I'm talking about
my shant ahm.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I what do you mean you said you spoke to
the boy, didn't he tell you why he's here.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
He said he didn't know.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You think he's mixed up in a filling station robbery?
Is that where you're holding him?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Maybe you better ask him again. I'm asking you. Yes,
that's right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, you better be able to prove it, sir, die
and believe me, you'd just better be able to prove it.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
A woman a closset street from the station saw two
boys drive away.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
She got the license done, doesn't have a car.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
It was young Lemmas you're lopping, But your son was
still whether when we made the arrest.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
That doesn't prove anything. That doesn't proved they were together
at the filling station. There was some other boy, not Vince.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
That's what your son says. Too.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, then why don't you believe.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Lemmert gave us a different story?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, what do you expect. He doesn't want to take
all the blame. He's in a jam and he wants
some company.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
The woman across the street are sure there were two boys,
mister Neff.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That doesn't make one of them my Vince.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Does she say it was Vince?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Is she willing to squire? Like? No?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What about the owner of the station. Is he identified
my son?
Speaker 7 (04:22):
He can't identify anybody. He's still unconscious.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, I'm sorry for him, of course, but you haven't
got any right to blame Vince.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And you haven't got any evidence against him either.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
We got the tyrant that was using the slugging neth Well,
what about it? We had to check by Lcoln Prince.
Well they found a set.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, they can't be Vince's finger, Prince. They can't be.
I'm afraid they are. No, No, you're you're wrong. You
made a.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Mistake, not this time.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But was sorry, mister Neff.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Why why would Vince do a thing like this? There's
no reason. He's had everything, everything we could give him
different if we were poor, if he didn't get an
allowance every week, there's just no reason.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, sir, I guess he found one.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, I I'm sorry, sorry if I was a little
rough on you.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I better get on home now. His mother O sure
should want to know if he's all right. Oh, I've
there's one thing.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
If he really did this terrible thing, I'm I'm glad
you caught him right away, right after it happened.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now we've got a chance, sir. But it won't happen again.
What do you get there? Mmm? Oh, I didn't realize
it's too I had it with me. What is there?
(06:06):
It's one of those puzzles with numbers you move around
trying to.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Line them up.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Kids brought them home last night. I was showing him
how to work it. I guess I'm stuck in my pocket.
It's really easy job.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There. See, I got them all in order. One. Hmm,
that's funny. Why what's the matter? Nothing? Nothing, I just
had a couple out of sequence. That's all.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, well, give me a minute, can't you, Joe? You've
got three numbers in the wrong place. Joe, I can't
work the puzzle when you're watching me like that.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't want to say I got it.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Juvenal Friday, Yes, ma'am, I see.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well do you know the boy? Will you give me
your address? Please? All right?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I haven't what yes, ma'am, we would. Will you be
here all right? Thank you very much. Lady up in
the Hollywood Hills, Eh, some youngster's been stealing groceries out
of her garage.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You know who that is.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
She got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
She almost caught him. Frank and I left the office
and drove out to a hillside address on Edgewood Drive,
two miles north of Hollywood Boulevard. It was nine seventeen
am when we got there.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
Well, there isn't too much to tell. Week ten days
ago I started listening things from the garage here, What
sort of thing can good? I keep an extra supply
on those shelves over there in the corner, But there
wasn't much gone, just a couple of items now and then.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
First I wasn't even certain. I thought maybe I'd.
Speaker 9 (07:47):
Used them up myself and forgot about it them. This
morning I saw him was right after Clarence went to work.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well about what time would that be?
Speaker 8 (07:55):
At seven am?
Speaker 9 (07:57):
That's when he leaves, No later than five after doing
up the breakfast dishes, and I heard somebody fussing around
the garage.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
By the time I got to the back door, he
was sneaking off across the yard. I gave a shout
started after him.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
What happened then?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
I guess m' yellen kind of took him by surprise. Anyway,
he turned around and dropped the stuff he was holding.
He sure didn't wait to pick it up, though. He
started off as fast as his legs would carry him.
He had it up the hill there. That was the
last I saw of him.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, now, just what was it? He dropped his room?
Speaker 9 (08:25):
A couple of cans from my groceries in a big
paper bag.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
That's it. They're on the on the stool, and I
have I looked inside. Maybe I shouldn't have, but I
thought it might be some more of my can goods.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's all right. What do you got, yo? Books? Huh?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Books here huh.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Theoretical physics, principles of dynamics, frontiers of molecular structure.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
Can make a new tail of him? Myself must be
something he's studying.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yes, his naming him? No, Now they're all from the
Hollywood line. Mary, What if you tell us what he
looks like? This Roman?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yes, I guess so.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
First off, I'd say, looks like books.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
How's it? You know?
Speaker 9 (09:12):
The study is sort of thin and pinched, blondish hair
like complexed About how tall is it?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Mm?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Five beat six or.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
Seven might look taller than he really is on account
of be intocent about how old?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Would you say? It was?
Speaker 8 (09:29):
Fifteen sixteen somewhere in there, just a youngster.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Did you notice his clothes?
Speaker 8 (09:34):
Mm? Had on pants look pretty worn.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And the sweater what about the color?
Speaker 9 (09:38):
The sweater was blue? Pants were too petty to tell. Now,
now I want you to understand one Thing's Friday. Yes, Ma,
I'm not real upset about him taking our food if
he needs it, that is. It just seems to me
there ought to be a better way of going about it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Nobody has to steal is today. The first time you
ever saw this boy was Roman.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Oh no, no, no, no. I've seen him a couple
of times before.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
One or two mornings he walked past the house on
his way down the hill. The other evening I saw
him heading back up. Of course I didn't connect him
with the my missing groceries.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Then I will have a look around. If he just
lives up on the hill, he shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Too hard to find.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Oh no, no, mister Friday, he doesn't live up there.
Nobody does, ma'am. Edge Would Drive gives out a hundred.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Yards beyond us, just around the next curve. Oh, we're
the last house.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Nine thirty two am, Frank and I left missus Roman.
We drove up to the end of edge Would Drive
and we got out of the car.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, she's right, Joe, I say, no place for anybody
live around here. I think you were a way out in.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
The country, you know, h right, huh over there, halfway
up on the slope, or see right behind that tree.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh yeah, what's to look like to you?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Oh? Oh, I guess what. Maybe that's where he set
up housekeeping. Hmm, what are you talking about, Joe? Wouldn't
you ever try when you were a kid? Try what
hiding out in the cave?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
We climbed up the side of the hill about two
hundred yards east of the road.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
We came to a small hole. Behind this opening was
a shallow natural cave. Frank and I crawled inside. The
cave was about eight feet long and four feet wide.
The boy we were looking for was not there, but
there was plenty of evidence that this was where he'd
been living. The sleeping bag was rolled up in one corner.
Beside it was a small supply of canned food. We
found ten or twelve notebooks filled with handwritten mathematical equations,
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and some fifty textbooks on advanced physics or higher mathematics.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
He sure believes in making use of the public library.
He does, and he's about every branch in town. Well,
I suppose there are wrest things that could be reading
Now looks like they aren't all library books. What do
you got, Joe? The couple here with.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Book plates uh owners' names in them. Book Plates in
three of the texts indicated that they were owned by
a person named Carl Wnderman. All the other volumes were
the property of various Los Angeles libraries. We contacted the
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office and made arrangements for another team of juvenile officers
to stake out on the cave. On our way downtown,
we stopped off at the Hollywood Library. We showed the
library and several botumes which belonged to that branch. Her
records indicated that the books had not been checked out.
She had no idea who had taken them or when.
Eleven thirteen am we put out a local with a
boy's description, and we checked the missing persons. As far
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as we could tell, he had not been reported missing.
Eleven forty six am, Frank and I made several calls
to branch libraries. They all said that the books in
question had been removed from their shelves without authorization.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
We checked the phone directors for the name Carl Wnderman.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
At twelve or six pm, we reached him in his
office at Bradfield University.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, sir, I think.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Well at the uf user any time to say, I'd
be fine with that. Yes, sir, well, thank you very much.
That's the right guy, Joe out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Of the physics department.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
You know anything that might help us, Yeah, he knows
the boy.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Four sixteen pm, Frank and I drove out to the
Bradfield campus. We met with doctor Carl Wnderman in his
office on the second floor of the science building.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yes. Yes, I've talked to the boy several times. H
Did you know he had these books of yours? Of
course I loaned him to him.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Honestly, I just happened to meet him doctor.
Speaker 10 (13:44):
It was here at the university. Yes, sir, he came
to see me. He had to write some articles of money.
Wish to discuss him, but it it was not presumptious.
He has a brilliant mind, extraordinary I see. And he
also wished to inquire about enrolling. He asked about a
scholarship he tried to discoverte him for a year or so.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
At least he's very young. Did he say how old
he was? Eighteen? That is what he told me. I'm
afraid that it is not the truth about how old?
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Would you say is perhaps sixteen?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Do you know his names? Him? Peter his last name.
Speaker 10 (14:14):
I suppose he's told me, but I'm afraid I do
not remember the typically absent minded professor.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
What about his family? Did he mention him? No?
Speaker 10 (14:22):
I imagine they are not well to do the way
he was dressed the inquiry about a scholarship?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Did he say where he lives in Los Angeles? That's all? Wait?
Speaker 10 (14:30):
I think he did mention something about uh recently coming
to California from one of the eastern states, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Perhaps you wouldn't know which town, would you?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm sorry. Is there anything else you can tell us
about him, doctor Winderman? Well, I would say he is
a happy boy.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
You say he's unhappy? Yes, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Lonely? Aloof?
Speaker 10 (14:50):
It must be very difficult for him other people, the
children his age, he would be unable to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
They would have nothing in common, even adults. I see.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
A brilliant mind does not necessarily make for a well
adjusted person, especially in one so young.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Well, thank you very much, doctor woman. Leave me one
of our cards if you should hear from HM again.
Would you get in touch with.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
This please, Yes, of course, if there's anything I can
do for Peter. It's very kind of it. Is he
in some kind of trouble, but we don't know yet, Sir.
I did not mean to pry.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Forgive me.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Well, the fact is he's been borrowing some books that
don't belong to him, books, yes, Sir, from libraries around town, to.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
Want to read, to want to learn. It's that such
a serious crime. It does not seem like one to me, yes, sir,
And he said, all he's done.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Well, he's taken some other things to food can goods.
Speaker 10 (15:38):
Yes, of course I should have known when he was here.
I should have known, but it has been so long since.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I've seen one, well, said sir. A boy who was hungry.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Frank and I went back to the office. The officer's
on stage got reported that the boy had not returned
to the cave. The steakhout was continued seven forty eight pm.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
He's still fooling with that thing, m oh. I wasn't
even thinking, Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I just happened to reach in my pocket. Let me see.
Did you get him in order? Yet? I wasn't trying, Joe,
I told you I didn't even know I was fooling.
I did it. I wasn't trying.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Yeah, Juvenal Friday, Yeah, uh huh for about.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Okay, we'll be right over. Thank you. Kid walked into a.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Grocery store, walked out without paying for his groceries. Sounded
like our boy stores on the corner of Green Street
and Edgewood. Frank and I drove out to the Hugging
grocery store off the corner.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Of Green and Edgewood eight seventeen pm. We pulled up
and went inside.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I was waiting on another customer.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I didn't pay much attention for the next thing I
knew he was sneaking out the door.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, so what can I do for it?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
We're police officers. This is Frank Smith. My name is Friday.
You from Central That's right, I'm Davis Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
To get a description here, Yeah, my partner's are looking around.
I'll give my hand. Okay, thank you. Say what do
you take care of it for it? Yeah? We will. Thanks. Now,
this ain't no big robbery or anything like that. He
was just a kid, you understand. Yeah, could you tell
us what he looked like? Mister Hugging Andy Hugging the
same as a sign on the window there.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yes, well, like I said, he was a kid teenage
or about halfway?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
How the halfway in his teens, you know, about fifteen
or sixteen? I say, white hair finn on a rail?
How was he? Dresser? Hands, sweater? Let's see? Just what
do you take from your store? Was hugging? Well?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I couldn't say for certain. I wouldn't have known he
took anything if it hadn't dropped out from under his
sweat when he was sneaking out the door.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
You know, can of corned beef, that's what he was
a fellow? Did you see which way he went out
the door? Up the street?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Told the other I guess they're after him, Yes, sir,
I don't know whether I doesn't write or huh?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
How's that in important?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I expect it seems like a lot of fuss about
a few groceries. Lcer trouble it is you let one
of them get away with something like this.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The news gets around the next thing, you know, the
stores full of them. You know, the kids try to steal.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Your blind I said, we understand, where's no plague of locus?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Sergeant, Yeah, him out in the car, But we got it.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
The patrol car officers had found a boy hiding in
an alley a few blocks west of the grocery store.
We transferred him to our vehicle and drove him down
to Georgia Street. Ninety six pm. We took him up
the interrogation room for questioning.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
So out say, all right, now you want to tell
us about it? About what? Well, let's start with your name.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Well, Paul, Paul what Jones?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You sure about that? I don't know my own name?
Yeah you should. Where do you live, Paul?
Speaker 7 (19:11):
San Diego?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
What are you doing in La? It's looking around that song?
What's your address? Then? Huh? In San Diego? What's your address?
Speaker 7 (19:18):
I don't know you know your name, but you don't
know where you live?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Only moved to California a few weeks ago? You lived
with your folks? Sure they have a telephone. Well, what's
father's name? Bill? Bill Jones?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
How long you've been in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Son? Just today?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Just today?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Get hiked in this morning? Did you ever hear of
a man named Carl Linderman? Who you see?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
I look, Pete, you're not doing yourself any goodyear?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Do you know what I said? My name's Paul? Well,
I just steal that stuff from the grocery store.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
So, I don't know what kind of an answer is
that you're in trouble. Pete's serious trouble, Emma.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
All right, you won't.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Tell us, We'll tell you. You didn't come to Los
Angeles today. You've been here for a couple of weeks.
You've been living in a cave up in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Yeah, and this grocery store tonight isn't the first time
you've gotten out of line.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Why'd you take all those books?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
On?
Speaker 10 (20:10):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Books?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Just shows you how much these college professors really know?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Huh?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Like that doctor Winderman, he says you're a smart kid.
You got a real good head on your shoulders. Wow,
it's pretty poor judge of Breens, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know about it? Now?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He's so far ahead of you, guys thought you never
heard of him. All right, now, Pete, let's quit fooling around.
Let's have it straight, all of it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
What do you want? Your name is in Paul Jones? Now,
what is it? Silent? Pete Syler?
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, where's your home?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You found it? I didn't mean that cave. You're a
real home. I don't know. You used to live with
my sists back in Philly. Well, what happened if you
got married? Do me out? What about your folks? They're dead?
What theck you doing? Mm hmm that thing, it's just
a puzzle. Huh.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
They're supposed to line up the numbers once we're fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, okay, you want to try it? Is that all?
Just line him up? Sure? Now? What? Oh? I said?
I guess?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh why did you come out to California?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Peak? Wanted to go to college though maybe I could
study physics.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Did you finish high school?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Not the history in English? Party? What do you mean?
Science and math? I finished them a couple of years
ago when I was a kid. Just how old are you? Sixteen? Almost?
Be harder if you didn't look at it. Huh, that's puzzle. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Let the guy see the first so he knows just
where the numbers are. Oh yeah, didn't make him working
with his hands behind his back for memory. Uh, be
harder that way, Yeah, I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Go ahead and mix some money.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Okay, I thought you were gonna memorize it first.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Take a look. I get them right. Yeah, it's harder
that way though.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
All right, Pete, Now let's go back to it. Why'd
you take all those books?
Speaker 11 (22:15):
I wanted to study him. I was gonna return him
when I was through. I couldn't get a library card.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Now I without a real address.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
What about the can good you've been stealing?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
It wasn't much, just enough to eat. What's gonna happen
to me? Now, well, that's not up to us. Huh.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
What do you think gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, I don't know, but I don't see where I
did anything so wrong. You're doing it? Well did I?
You stole books? You stole food? Because there's a lot
of trouble.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, well you're the wizards math, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Huh? You added up.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you've just heard is true.
The names were jack aimed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
On April sixteenth, the hearing was held in Juvenile Court
the State of California in and for the County of
Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Peter L.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Siler was made Award of the Juvenile Court and was
placed in a foster home. Through the efforts of doctor
Carl Windermann, he was permitted to enroll in Bradfield University
as a special student in the field of Higher mathematics
and physics.
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